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<liach>
Don't use deobf jar
<liach>
Don't use deobf jarL2[00:36:11] ⇦
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L3[00:52:20] <Joshwoo70> use source- wait.. there
is no source jar...
<Joshwoo70> use source- wait.. there
is no source jar...L4[00:52:31] <Joshwoo70> OH! get BON2
<Joshwoo70> OH! get BON2L5[00:52:43] <Joshwoo70> aka Bearded octo nemesis
2
<Joshwoo70> aka Bearded octo nemesis
2L6[00:54:43] <liach>
1.7?
<liach>
1.7?L7[00:54:56] <Joshwoo70> universal
<Joshwoo70> universalL8[00:55:14] <Joshwoo70> it is basically no
minecraft dependacy attathed
<Joshwoo70> it is basically no
minecraft dependacy attathedL9[00:55:18] <Joshwoo70> AFAI
<Joshwoo70> AFAIL10[00:55:24] <Joshwoo70> AFAIK
<Joshwoo70> AFAIKL11[00:57:37] <liach>
mc ver?
<liach>
mc ver?L12[01:44:59] ⇨
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CovertJaguar/Railcraft#32 (messenger-track-kit - 2aa0468 : liach):
The build passed.
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L17[02:10:59] <Joshwoo70> um liach.. i think you can
use [ci skip] to skip travis from building @liach
<Joshwoo70> um liach.. i think you can
use [ci skip] to skip travis from building @liachL18[02:11:15] <Joshwoo70> just put it in the commit
message.
<Joshwoo70> just put it in the commit
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L20[02:45:04] <Natesky9> but will it do your
laundry?
<Natesky9> but will it do your
laundry?L21[02:45:46] <liach>
to make sure it builds
<liach>
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L23[03:28:33] <Elourge> Does anyone know of good
farming mods on 1.10? more specificly ones that add better ways to
hydrate farmland
<Elourge> Does anyone know of good
farming mods on 1.10? more specificly ones that add better ways to
hydrate farmlandL24[03:32:16] <Kodos>
Agricraft has sprinklers
<Kodos>
Agricraft has sprinklersL25[03:32:17] <Kodos>
I think
<Kodos>
I thinkL26[03:33:18] <Elourge> ohhh it has a 1.10.2 version
now
<Elourge> ohhh it has a 1.10.2 version
nowL27[03:33:22] <Elourge> thanks mate
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L31[04:14:53] <Elourge> What if the ic2 energy carts
only moved slow with an electric locomotive
<Elourge> What if the ic2 energy carts
only moved slow with an electric locomotiveL32[04:15:22] <Elourge> and the fuel ones move it at
normal speed since they are move powerful
<Elourge> and the fuel ones move it at
normal speed since they are move powerfulL33[04:18:19] ⇨
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L35[04:33:39] <Kodos>
Not to mention steam locos don't need the power from the elec
carts, so there's no need to slow th em
<Kodos>
Not to mention steam locos don't need the power from the elec
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L37[04:43:11] <Forecaster> they're
slow because batteries are heavy
L38[04:43:31] <Kodos>
I was under the impression they were slow because they can charge
an electric loco
<Kodos>
I was under the impression they were slow because they can charge
an electric locoL39[04:44:10] <Forecaster> yes, but
they're slow for everything because batteries are heavy
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L42[04:47:58] <Elourge> So they should be able to
accellerate but just at a slower rate then
<Elourge> So they should be able to
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L44[05:15:42] <yepidoodles> So you've probably
been asked this a million times but what sort of timeframe are we
looking at for a Railcraft update? Days? Weeks? Want to know if I
should wait until Railcraft is done before adding the updated CoFH
mods (public server, people get mad when I update every other day
:P )
<yepidoodles> So you've probably
been asked this a million times but what sort of timeframe are we
looking at for a Railcraft update? Days? Weeks? Want to know if I
should wait until Railcraft is done before adding the updated CoFH
mods (public server, people get mad when I update every other day
:P )L45[05:18:16] <yepidoodles> Not impaitent, just like
to be informed
<yepidoodles> Not impaitent, just like
to be informedL46[05:26:22] <Kodos>
When it's done. I'm not sure what will be in it, either.
There was talk of a junction and wye beta but that's it
afaik
<Kodos>
When it's done. I'm not sure what will be in it, either.
There was talk of a junction and wye beta but that's it
afaikL47[05:26:28] <Kodos>
You're better off planning on waiting a while
<Kodos>
You're better off planning on waiting a whileL48[05:26:47] <Kodos>
The 'big' update that everyone's waiting for is a
way's off still, I would think, but i'm not a dev, so I
can't tell you anything official
<Kodos>
The 'big' update that everyone's waiting for is a
way's off still, I would think, but i'm not a dev, so I
can't tell you anything officialL49[05:29:37] <Forecaster> it'll
probably be a while
L50[05:29:46] <Forecaster> there's
still a lot of things that need to be updated
L51[05:30:06] <Kodos>
A lot of which is being rewritten from the ground up, isn't
it?
<Kodos>
A lot of which is being rewritten from the ground up, isn't
it?L52[05:30:29] <Forecaster> yeah, some
things are fundamentally changed
L53[05:30:47] <Forecaster> like the various
switch tracks
L54[05:33:48] <yepidoodles> No worries, thanks for
the info :) keep up the good work
<yepidoodles> No worries, thanks for
the info :) keep up the good workL55[05:49:33] ⇨
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L60[07:59:32] <GeneralCamo> @Forecaster Being quite
fair here, but a cart full of uranium is also really heavy
<GeneralCamo> @Forecaster Being quite
fair here, but a cart full of uranium is also really heavyL61[07:59:38] <GeneralCamo> But that doesn't
slow down the train
<GeneralCamo> But that doesn't
slow down the trainL62[07:59:50] <GeneralCamo> (Actually, that would be
heavier than batteries
<GeneralCamo> (Actually, that would be
heavier than batteriesL63[07:59:52] <GeneralCamo> (Actually, that would be
heavier than batteries)
<GeneralCamo> (Actually, that would be
heavier than batteries)L64[08:06:32] <Forecaster> minecraft logic
applies here
L65[08:07:01] <Forecaster> and like we
said, the reason they're slow in the first place is because of
the electric locomotives
L66[08:14:20] <Forecaster> Using steam
locomotives to pull the batteries is still advantagous beacuse it
doesn't drain power from them
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L70[10:38:08] <Frani>
also running a public server and people get mad if I dont
update
<Frani>
also running a public server and people get mad if I dont
updateL71[10:38:12] <Frani>
?
<Frani>
?L72[10:40:43] ⇨
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L73[10:40:44] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#34 (fix/1098 - 3f71b38 : liach): The build
failed.
L74[10:40:44] <travis-ci> Change view :
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/commit/3f71b38f47be
L75[10:40:44] <travis-ci> Build details :
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L77[10:42:11] <liach>
A oh
<liach>
A ohL78[10:42:32] <liach>
@Frani What are you going to update?
<liach>
@Frani What are you going to update?L79[10:43:08] <Frani>
everything that is not up to date
<Frani>
everything that is not up to dateL80[10:43:19] <Frani>
and add cofh core and TE
<Frani>
and add cofh core and TEL81[10:43:58] <liach>
For 1.10 server?
<liach>
For 1.10 server?L82[10:46:31] <Frani>
yes
<Frani>
yesL83[10:46:49] <Frani>
mods update like every day
<Frani>
mods update like every dayL84[10:47:00] <liach>
Do you have some sort of public railroad?
<liach>
Do you have some sort of public railroad?L85[10:47:22] <Frani>
I've recently added railcraft
<Frani>
I've recently added railcraftL86[10:47:37] <Frani>
not even I started using it
<Frani>
not even I started using itL87[10:50:07] ⇨
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L88[10:50:07] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#36 (fix/1098 - f00a45a : liach): The build
was fixed.
L89[10:50:07] <travis-ci> Change view :
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L92[10:50:18] <GeneralCamo> TE5?
<GeneralCamo> TE5?L93[10:50:21] <GeneralCamo> Oh dear
<GeneralCamo> Oh dearL94[10:50:36] <Natesky9> I've just been waiting
for routing before I set up my large rail systems
<Natesky9> I've just been waiting
for routing before I set up my large rail systemsL95[10:51:17] <Frani>
also
<Frani>
alsoL96[10:51:42] <Frani>
large rail systems here are mainly for player transport
<Frani>
large rail systems here are mainly for player transportL97[10:51:53] <Frani>
since chunk loaders are limites and carts doesnt get loaded
<Frani>
since chunk loaders are limites and carts doesnt get loadedL98[10:53:54] <Natesky9> A few enderpearls go a long
way
<Natesky9> A few enderpearls go a long
wayL99[10:54:12] <GeneralCamo> You mean Chunk Loaders
are Limited, right?
<GeneralCamo> You mean Chunk Loaders
are Limited, right?L100[10:54:21] <Frani>
oh yeah
<Frani>
oh yeahL101[10:54:29] <Natesky9> There are anchor
carts
<Natesky9> There are anchor
cartsL102[10:54:32] <Frani>
since chunk loaders are limited and carts doesnt get loaded
<Frani>
since chunk loaders are limited and carts doesnt get loadedL103[10:54:41] <Frani>
chunk loaders are limited at all
<Frani>
chunk loaders are limited at allL104[10:54:43] <GeneralCamo> I was on a server where
Chunk Loaders were unlimited, with one condition
<GeneralCamo> I was on a server where
Chunk Loaders were unlimited, with one conditionL105[10:54:44] <Frani>
in servers
<Frani>
in serversL106[10:54:54] <GeneralCamo> They had to be shut off
when the player logged off
<GeneralCamo> They had to be shut off
when the player logged offL107[10:55:05] <GeneralCamo> They provided
ComputerCraft code to facilitate that
<GeneralCamo> They provided
ComputerCraft code to facilitate thatL108[10:55:40] <GeneralCamo> @Natesky9 Unrestricted
Chunkloaders on Minecraft servers are bad
<GeneralCamo> @Natesky9 Unrestricted
Chunkloaders on Minecraft servers are badL109[10:55:41] <GeneralCamo> Very bad
<GeneralCamo> Very badL110[10:55:55] <Frani>
^
<Frani>
^L111[10:55:57] <Natesky9> I've only ever played
on my own
<Natesky9> I've only ever played
on my ownL112[10:56:21] <yepidoodles> You've never played
on a server @Natesky9 ?
<yepidoodles> You've never played
on a server @Natesky9 ?L113[10:56:33] <Natesky9> Not entirely
<Natesky9> Not entirelyL114[10:56:40] <Frani>
on my server all chunk loaders are banned, on the 1.7.10 we af
least have a chunk loader plugin that loads the chunks only when
the player is online, and is limited
<Frani>
on my server all chunk loaders are banned, on the 1.7.10 we af
least have a chunk loader plugin that loads the chunks only when
the player is online, and is limitedL115[10:56:50] <GeneralCamo> It gets even worse when
you factor in additional dimensions. In the server we played on, we
had a dedicated Mystcraft Mining Dimension, where we were allowed a
SINGLE quarry and a SINGLE chunkloader
<GeneralCamo> It gets even worse when
you factor in additional dimensions. In the server we played on, we
had a dedicated Mystcraft Mining Dimension, where we were allowed a
SINGLE quarry and a SINGLE chunkloaderL116[10:57:02] <Frani>
so keep a whole automatic railway is a bit hard
<Frani>
so keep a whole automatic railway is a bit hardL117[10:57:03] <GeneralCamo> @Frani Do you have xu2
installed on your server?
<GeneralCamo> @Frani Do you have xu2
installed on your server?L118[10:57:07] <Frani>
yep
<Frani>
yepL119[10:57:21] <GeneralCamo> Quantum Quarries are
*awesome* as far as server performance is concerned
<GeneralCamo> Quantum Quarries are
*awesome* as far as server performance is concernedL120[10:57:32] <GeneralCamo> Extra Utilities 2:
Balance Nightmare
<GeneralCamo> Extra Utilities 2:
Balance NightmareL121[10:57:32] <GeneralCamo> Server Admin's
dream
<GeneralCamo> Server Admin's
dreamL122[10:57:47] <Frani>
not at all
<Frani>
not at allL123[10:57:54] <GeneralCamo> Wait what
<GeneralCamo> Wait whatL124[10:58:15] <Frani>
40 quantum quarries lags a lot
<Frani>
40 quantum quarries lags a lotL125[10:58:26] <Frani>
hmm not 40, even 25
<Frani>
hmm not 40, even 25L126[10:58:40] <Natesky9> See, I just used Botania to
generate ores
<Natesky9> See, I just used Botania to
generate oresL127[10:58:42] <GeneralCamo> That's insane
<GeneralCamo> That's insaneL128[10:58:50] <Frani>
not for a server
<Frani>
not for a serverL129[10:58:58] <GeneralCamo> Why is each quarry
generating a new dim?
<GeneralCamo> Why is each quarry
generating a new dim?L130[10:59:03] <Frani>
no
<Frani>
noL131[10:59:04] <GeneralCamo> ...
<GeneralCamo> ...L132[10:59:13] <Frani>
the way it does stuff that lags
<Frani>
the way it does stuff that lagsL133[10:59:24] <Frani>
pretty much the code and not the idea
<Frani>
pretty much the code and not the ideaL134[10:59:25] <liach>
Almura server... The server owners wrote their own farming
mod
<liach>
Almura server... The server owners wrote their own farming
modL135[11:00:30] <GeneralCamo> Arghh
<GeneralCamo> ArghhL136[11:00:42] <GeneralCamo> RWTema you funny
guy
<GeneralCamo> RWTema you funny
guyL137[11:02:27] <Frani>
botania is good for ores
<Frani>
botania is good for oresL138[11:02:32] <Frani>
actually additions too
<Frani>
actually additions tooL139[11:02:48] <Frani>
and blood magic
<Frani>
and blood magicL140[11:04:22] <SkySom> Yeah I tend to use Botania
for ores.
<SkySom> Yeah I tend to use Botania
for ores.L141[11:04:28] <SkySom> Rather than quarry
<SkySom> Rather than quarryL142[11:04:42] <Natesky9> It doesn't wreck the
landscape
<Natesky9> It doesn't wreck the
landscapeL143[11:04:50] <SkySom> Because I already have mass
mana production due to using the Flux Field for powering my entire
base
<SkySom> Because I already have mass
mana production due to using the Flux Field for powering my entire
baseL144[11:04:50] <Natesky9> plus, I'm a fan of
actually exploring
<Natesky9> plus, I'm a fan of
actually exploringL145[11:05:11] <vedrit> I usually put the quarries
under ground
<vedrit> I usually put the quarries
under groundL146[11:05:12] <SkySom> So mana is the base power
source for my entire base.
<SkySom> So mana is the base power
source for my entire base.L147[11:05:27] <SkySom> Plus you can transport mana
nicely in carts and it looks cool
<SkySom> Plus you can transport mana
nicely in carts and it looks coolL148[11:06:28] <Frani>
I also have mana as main power ?
<Frani>
I also have mana as main power ?L149[11:06:43] <SkySom> Cake production is actually
quite fun if you do it right
<SkySom> Cake production is actually
quite fun if you do it rightL150[11:06:44] <Frani>
it's pretty cool to see working
<Frani>
it's pretty cool to see workingL151[11:07:00] <SkySom> Spread out different fields
and production of materials and you've got a good network to
run train son.
<SkySom> Spread out different fields
and production of materials and you've got a good network to
run train son.L152[11:07:22] <Frani>
I prefer dandelifeons for mana generating
<Frani>
I prefer dandelifeons for mana generatingL153[11:07:45] <Frani>
I created a setup that will fill 1 mana pool in 7 seconds
<Frani>
I created a setup that will fill 1 mana pool in 7 secondsL154[11:07:48] <Frani>
with 1 arena
<Frani>
with 1 arenaL155[11:07:50] <Natesky9> I've really been
itching to play with people
<Natesky9> I've really been
itching to play with peopleL156[11:08:05] <Natesky9> All of my friends
don't really play anymore
<Natesky9> All of my friends
don't really play anymoreL157[11:08:06] <Frani>
I can show you later
<Frani>
I can show you laterL158[11:09:25] <yepidoodles> GeneralCamo - Today at
4:57 PM
<yepidoodles> GeneralCamo - Today at
4:57 PML159[11:09:26] <yepidoodles> Quantum Quarries are
awesome as far as server performance is concerned
<yepidoodles> Quantum Quarries are
awesome as far as server performance is concernedL160[11:09:40] <yepidoodles> Except it crashes the
server if you put them in extreme hills biomes
<yepidoodles> Except it crashes the
server if you put them in extreme hills biomesL161[11:09:48] <Frani>
lol
<Frani>
lolL162[11:09:50] <yepidoodles> I've had to disable
them
<yepidoodles> I've had to disable
themL163[11:09:51] <Frani>
they dont
<Frani>
they dontL165[11:11:01] <Frani>
I would not believe in every issue someone posts in github without
further testing, and thats what I did
<Frani>
I would not believe in every issue someone posts in github without
further testing, and thats what I didL166[11:11:10] <Frani>
and it doesnt crash ?
<Frani>
and it doesnt crash ?L167[11:12:05] <yepidoodles> Well it crashes
everytime on my Sponge server
<yepidoodles> Well it crashes
everytime on my Sponge serverL168[11:12:14] <Frani>
have you tried updating?
<Frani>
have you tried updating?L169[11:12:53] <MCenderdragon> sponge is
messing up everything, dont use it
L170[11:14:22] <Frani>
sponge is helping server owners and developers a lot use it
<Frani>
sponge is helping server owners and developers a lot use itL171[11:14:38] <Frani>
sponge is helping server owners and developers a lot, use it
<Frani>
sponge is helping server owners and developers a lot, use itL172[11:19:58] <Forecaster> the sponge is
absorbing too much fluid! it's reaching critical mass!
Run!
L173[11:20:40] <Frani>
xD
<Frani>
xDL174[11:28:43] <GeneralCamo> MY REACTOR IS GOING
CRITICAL!!!11!!
<GeneralCamo> MY REACTOR IS GOING
CRITICAL!!!11!!L175[11:29:11] <Frani>
which mod?
<Frani>
which mod?L176[11:29:39] <MCenderdragon> well not
with the issue I had. My Mods adds a dimension and sponge (after
fixing crashes) still does weird stuff. But yeah fixing bugs on
huge things is hard. But blame the wrong people for problems is
also not good
L177[11:29:41] <GeneralCamo> (It's a nuclear
physics joke. A critical reactor is a reactor that is functioning
perfectly)
<GeneralCamo> (It's a nuclear
physics joke. A critical reactor is a reactor that is functioning
perfectly)L178[11:29:57] <bballboy2002> xD
<bballboy2002> xDL179[11:33:00] <Frani>
oh
<Frani>
ohL180[11:36:59] <yepidoodles> Frani - Today at 5:12
PM
<yepidoodles> Frani - Today at 5:12
PML181[11:36:59] <yepidoodles> have you tried
updating?
<yepidoodles> have you tried
updating?L182[11:37:02] <yepidoodles> It's the latest
version
<yepidoodles> It's the latest
versionL183[11:40:25] <Frani>
hmmm
<Frani>
hmmmL184[12:26:51] <Natesky9> As much as it sucks, 1.7.10
is like, the best version to play right now
<Natesky9> As much as it sucks, 1.7.10
is like, the best version to play right nowL185[12:28:29]
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L186[12:30:10] <SkySom> I mean I guess it depends on
what makes you say it's the best
<SkySom> I mean I guess it depends on
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L188[12:32:03] <Natesky9> Sure, it doesn't have
all the new content
<Natesky9> Sure, it doesn't have
all the new contentL189[12:32:19] <Natesky9> but it at least has things
basically set in stone
<Natesky9> but it at least has things
basically set in stoneL190[12:32:55] <SkySom> I've come to like the
new combat.
<SkySom> I've come to like the
new combat.L191[12:33:01] <SkySom> Less spam clicking.
<SkySom> Less spam clicking.L192[12:33:17] <SkySom> Feels like some o fthe mod
armor/weapons are finally useful
<SkySom> Feels like some o fthe mod
armor/weapons are finally usefulL193[12:34:26] <Natesky9> Potions are still lame
though
<Natesky9> Potions are still lame
thoughL194[12:34:40] <Natesky9> In fact, they nerfed
healing potions
<Natesky9> In fact, they nerfed
healing potionsL195[12:34:52] <Natesky9> But they made saturation
heal
<Natesky9> But they made saturation
healL196[12:34:58] <Natesky9> which... doesn't make
sense
<Natesky9> which... doesn't make
senseL197[12:35:16] <Natesky9> they nerfed instant health
potions because it gave too much health
<Natesky9> they nerfed instant health
potions because it gave too much healthL198[12:35:26] <Natesky9> but they added a mechanic
that would heal you with food
<Natesky9> but they added a mechanic
that would heal you with foodL199[12:35:29] <Natesky9> ???
<Natesky9> ???L200[12:35:33] <Natesky9> Rito pls
<Natesky9> Rito plsL201[12:35:34] <Natesky9> wait
<Natesky9> waitL202[12:35:38] <Natesky9> mojang pls
<Natesky9> mojang plsL203[12:37:33] ⇦
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L206[13:08:23] <liach>
You can literally return to old crazy clicking combat in fact
<liach>
You can literally return to old crazy clicking combat in factL207[13:08:35] <liach>
A tiny mod can help
<liach>
A tiny mod can helpL208[14:11:34] ⇦
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L215[15:02:26] <liach>
@Forecaster Are you good at drawing textures? If you are, I hope
you can create a texture for messenger track
<liach>
@Forecaster Are you good at drawing textures? If you are, I hope
you can create a texture for messenger trackL216[15:02:46] <Forecaster> messenger
track?
L217[15:02:55] <liach>
A track I just added
<liach>
A track I just addedL218[15:03:03] <Kodos>
What does it do?
<Kodos>
What does it do?L220[15:03:27] <liach>
@Kodos Send a message (like the ones minigame servers send to you
when you join server)
<liach>
@Kodos Send a message (like the ones minigame servers send to you
when you join server)L221[15:03:37] <liach>
Only work when powered by redstone
<liach>
Only work when powered by redstoneL222[15:27:41] <Frani>
hey
<Frani>
heyL223[15:27:43] <Frani>
quick question
<Frani>
quick questionL224[15:27:50] <Frani>
how do I use events on my code?
<Frani>
how do I use events on my code?L225[15:28:12] <Forecaster> @liach: ah, I
see, I'll see if I can make something soon for that
L226[15:28:22] <Frani>
```
<Frani>
```L227[15:28:22] <Frani>
import
net.minecraftforge.event.entity.player.PlayerInteractEvent;
<Frani>
import
net.minecraftforge.event.entity.player.PlayerInteractEvent;L228[15:28:23] <Frani>
is it right?
<Frani>
is it right?L229[15:28:42] <Forecaster> what are you
trying to do?
L230[15:29:07] <liach>
@Frani Register you class instance on
MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS
<liach>
@Frani Register you class instance on
MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUSL231[15:29:10] <Frani>
listen to the player interact event
<Frani>
listen to the player interact eventL232[15:29:31] <liach>
@Forecaster To design icon for the track kit
<liach>
@Forecaster To design icon for the track kitL233[15:29:37] <Frani>
hm and how do I do it ?
<Frani>
hm and how do I do it ?L234[15:29:42] <liach>
old unpowered
<liach>
old unpoweredL235[15:29:43] <liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422919225212928/messenger_0.png
<liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422919225212928/messenger_0.pngL236[15:29:45] <Forecaster> yeah
L237[15:29:46] <liach>
old powered
<liach>
old poweredL238[15:29:46] <liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422933808939018/messenger_1.png
<liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422933808939018/messenger_1.pngL239[15:29:55] <liach>
new unpowered
<liach>
new unpoweredL240[15:29:55] <liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422970815152128/messenger_0_new.png
<liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422970815152128/messenger_0_new.pngL241[15:29:57] <liach>
new powered
<liach>
new poweredL242[15:29:57] <liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422979015278612/messenger_1_new.png
<liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/288422979015278612/messenger_1_new.pngL243[15:30:38] <liach>
@Frani When you mod initializes, register things like
`MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(new EventHandler());`
<liach>
@Frani When you mod initializes, register things like
`MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(new EventHandler());`L244[15:30:59] <Forecaster> oh, I was
asking Frani, not you liach
L245[15:32:07] <liach>
?
<liach>
?L246[15:32:31] <Frani>
oh
<Frani>
ohL247[15:35:36] <liach>
Sad... @CovertJaguar should come to see my pull request
<liach>
Sad... @CovertJaguar should come to see my pull requestL248[15:41:53]
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L249[15:41:54] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#38 (messenger-track-kit - 4ce68de : liach):
The build passed.
L250[15:41:54] <travis-ci> Change view :
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/compare/2aa0468d2187...4ce68dea4132
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https://travis-ci.org/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/builds/208364259
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CovertJaguar/Railcraft#40 (messenger-track-kit - de8bdaf : liach):
The build passed.
L255[15:42:59] <travis-ci> Change view :
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/compare/4ce68dea4132...de8bdafe1dac
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L258[15:54:10] <vedrit> Travis, plz, the spam. Silly
bot
<vedrit> Travis, plz, the spam. Silly
botL259[16:02:43] ***
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L261[16:40:27] <CovertJaguar> @liach what are those
textures supposed to represent?
<CovertJaguar> @liach what are those
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L264[17:17:00] <liach>
Speakers
<liach>
SpeakersL265[17:18:37] <Joshwoo70> but if you put it as a
texture.. it should be facing up XD not side
<Joshwoo70> but if you put it as a
texture.. it should be facing up XD not sideL266[17:18:40] <Joshwoo70> @liach
<Joshwoo70> @liachL267[17:20:58] <liach>
eh I am not an artist
<liach>
eh I am not an artistL268[17:33:46] <CovertJaguar> haha, if you don't
mind I can make something appropriate later =P
<CovertJaguar> haha, if you don't
mind I can make something appropriate later =PL269[17:34:31] ***
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10.1.0-alpha-1 is out on Patreon! Junctions and Wyes! | http://www.patreon.com/CovertJaguar | The Dark Tower
Begins! http://goo.gl/5JF1j | Website: http://railcraft.info/ | Bug reports: http://goo.gl/90fqi | Change Logs: http://bit.ly/1jhFbXf | API: http://adf.ly/N2b30 https://t.co/AJBI0J8X6W | Discord: https://discord.gg/xRk8MnD'
L270[17:35:55] <CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and
Wyes!
<CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and
Wyes!L271[17:36:38] <Vexatos> @CovertJaguar are
the lang changes already inside? :P
L272[17:36:50] <Vexatos> foreign lang
updates, that is :3
L273[17:37:26] <CovertJaguar> depends...when did you
do that?
<CovertJaguar> depends...when did you
do that?L274[17:37:41] <vedrit> Woo! I'm not a patreon,
but woo all the same!
<vedrit> Woo! I'm not a patreon,
but woo all the same!L275[17:37:49] <Vexatos> two days
ago
L276[17:38:15] <Vexatos> Woo! me neither,
but I can get it anyway!
L277[17:38:21] *
Vexatos cheats
L278[17:38:28] <liach>
woo
<liach>
wooL279[17:38:33] <vedrit> You can? Cheater
<vedrit> You can? CheaterL280[17:38:41] <Vexatos> Yea because I
develop a railcraft addon :P
L281[17:38:51] <CovertJaguar> should be included
then
<CovertJaguar> should be included
thenL282[17:38:58] <CovertJaguar> and looks like it
is
<CovertJaguar> and looks like it
isL283[17:39:15] <CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and Wyes!
https://t.co/Yqj42m7JwT
<CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and Wyes!
https://t.co/Yqj42m7JwTL284[17:39:45] <Snapples> Has Railcraft been out for
1.10 before?
<Snapples> Has Railcraft been out for
1.10 before?L285[17:39:48] <CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and Wyes!
https://t.co/Yqj42m7JwT
<CovertJaguar> @everyone
10.1.0-alpha-1 is now available to Patrons! Junctions and Wyes!
https://t.co/Yqj42m7JwTL286[17:39:53] <vedrit> So is this just an
experimental build?
<vedrit> So is this just an
experimental build?L287[17:40:08] <vedrit> Testing the changes?
<vedrit> Testing the changes?L288[17:40:41] <CovertJaguar> its very alpha, I
don't expect any real bugs, but it is not quite complete
<CovertJaguar> its very alpha, I
don't expect any real bugs, but it is not quite completeL289[17:40:57] <CovertJaguar> the Switch Actuators
graphics are mostly placeholders atm for example
<CovertJaguar> the Switch Actuators
graphics are mostly placeholders atm for exampleL290[17:41:04] <vedrit> I see, I see
<vedrit> I see, I seeL291[17:41:12] <rrusciguy> Still, it's progress
and an exciting jump at that :D
<rrusciguy> Still, it's progress
and an exciting jump at that :DL292[17:41:25] <vedrit> ^^^
<vedrit> ^^^L293[17:41:57] <CovertJaguar> @Snapples yes, its been
out since Halloween
<CovertJaguar> @Snapples yes, its been
out since HalloweenL294[17:42:02] <Snapples> Ah, ok.
<Snapples> Ah, ok.L295[17:46:45] <CovertJaguar> now that I think about
it, I'm not even sure if the actuators are
craftable...hmm...if they are its a happy accident of old code
still working
<CovertJaguar> now that I think about
it, I'm not even sure if the actuators are
craftable...hmm...if they are its a happy accident of old code
still workingL296[17:48:07] <CovertJaguar> oh... I also
forget to mention that the Rolling Machine and Feed Station are
back too
L297[17:48:35] <Kodos>
\o/
<Kodos>
\o/L298[17:49:59] <vedrit> Kewl
<vedrit> KewlL299[17:51:00] <CovertJaguar> one hopes those recipes
still work too... I need to remember to test recipes, my greatest
bane
<CovertJaguar> one hopes those recipes
still work too... I need to remember to test recipes, my greatest
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L301[17:53:00] <CovertJaguar> one issue is that the
mod has no means of producing RF atm, and the Rolling Machine
won't work without it
<CovertJaguar> one issue is that the
mod has no means of producing RF atm, and the Rolling Machine
won't work without itL302[17:53:03] ⇦
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L303[17:53:10] <vedrit> Does the rolling machine
still use RF?
<vedrit> Does the rolling machine
still use RF?L304[17:53:22] <vedrit> Oh, nevermind
<vedrit> Oh, nevermindL305[17:54:59] <CovertJaguar> hmm... well the rolling
machine is craftable, the actuators not so much
<CovertJaguar> hmm... well the rolling
machine is craftable, the actuators not so muchL306[17:55:29] <CovertJaguar> ah well, I'll post
something new once I get the turnout sorted
<CovertJaguar> ah well, I'll post
something new once I get the turnout sortedL307[17:55:58] <CovertJaguar> and I should probably
add that manual rolling machine
<CovertJaguar> and I should probably
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L309[18:11:58] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar Wait
engines aren't in-game yet?
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar Wait
engines aren't in-game yet?L310[18:12:19] <CovertJaguar> lol, no
<CovertJaguar> lol, noL311[18:13:17] <GeneralCamo> Also: I'm aware of
your apprehension to the whole energy wars. But wouldn't it be
nice to get rid of TeamCOfH's API from Railcraft?
<GeneralCamo> Also: I'm aware of
your apprehension to the whole energy wars. But wouldn't it be
nice to get rid of TeamCOfH's API from Railcraft?L312[18:15:15] <GeneralCamo> Though seriously,
I'm trying (and failing) to setup the dev environment for
Forge
<GeneralCamo> Though seriously,
I'm trying (and failing) to setup the dev environment for
ForgeL313[18:15:25] <GeneralCamo> It's been years
since I did this
<GeneralCamo> It's been years
since I did thisL314[18:15:36] <GeneralCamo> And it appears the
process changed anyway
<GeneralCamo> And it appears the
process changed anywayL315[18:16:12] <liach>
./gradlew sDecompW
<liach>
./gradlew sDecompWL316[18:16:58] <GeneralCamo> Wait, so it isn't
./gradlew setupdecompworkspace?
<GeneralCamo> Wait, so it isn't
./gradlew setupdecompworkspace?L317[18:17:06] <GeneralCamo> Ughhhhhh
<GeneralCamo> UghhhhhhL318[18:17:14] <GeneralCamo> Forge documentation why
do you fail
<GeneralCamo> Forge documentation why
do you failL319[18:19:01] <CovertJaguar> yes, I'd be happy
to get rid of it, but nothing you are suggesting does that.
Compatability layer? what is that, how does it work?
<CovertJaguar> yes, I'd be happy
to get rid of it, but nothing you are suggesting does that.
Compatability layer? what is that, how does it work?L320[18:19:18] <GeneralCamo> Right then
<GeneralCamo> Right thenL321[18:19:23] <GeneralCamo> Fair enough
<GeneralCamo> Fair enoughL322[18:19:51] <GeneralCamo> I was thinking move RF
to a module that would be deleted entirely come 1.11 (where RF is
100% dead)
<GeneralCamo> I was thinking move RF
to a module that would be deleted entirely come 1.11 (where RF is
100% dead)L323[18:20:13] <CovertJaguar> the RF api doesn't
really work like that, nor do modules
<CovertJaguar> the RF api doesn't
really work like that, nor do modulesL324[18:20:27] <GeneralCamo> Oh
<GeneralCamo> OhL325[18:20:30] <CovertJaguar> modules are mostly just
config settings grouped together
<CovertJaguar> modules are mostly just
config settings grouped togetherL326[18:20:43] <CovertJaguar> and the API is such
that it must be implemented by the blocks to work
<CovertJaguar> and the API is such
that it must be implemented by the blocks to workL327[18:21:19] <liach>
how about rf cart
<liach>
how about rf cartL328[18:21:27] <CovertJaguar> what about it?
<CovertJaguar> what about it?L329[18:21:42] <liach>
will it get removed
<liach>
will it get removedL330[18:22:06] <CovertJaguar> it was designed to
match the RF lore, FE has no lore, so fuck me if I know
<CovertJaguar> it was designed to
match the RF lore, FE has no lore, so fuck me if I knowL331[18:22:58] <GeneralCamo> Well, TBF, I was
thinking of new names for the Flux Capacitor
<GeneralCamo> Well, TBF, I was
thinking of new names for the Flux CapacitorL332[18:23:04] <GeneralCamo> ...forge capacitor
sounds stupid
<GeneralCamo> ...forge capacitor
sounds stupidL333[18:23:59] <CovertJaguar> everyone complains
about RF being unmaintained, but that's always a been a
non-issue
<CovertJaguar> everyone complains
about RF being unmaintained, but that's always a been a
non-issueL334[18:24:16] <CovertJaguar> the only thing that
changed in 1.10 was ForgeDirection -> EnumFacing
<CovertJaguar> the only thing that
changed in 1.10 was ForgeDirection -> EnumFacingL335[18:24:32] <CovertJaguar> and you'd have to
be an idiot to mess that port up
<CovertJaguar> and you'd have to
be an idiot to mess that port upL336[18:25:04] <CovertJaguar> ok, its not a
capability, but that's an overblown feature anyway
<CovertJaguar> ok, its not a
capability, but that's an overblown feature anywayL337[18:26:04] <CovertJaguar> Telsa has an identity
crisis, and FE has no identity
<CovertJaguar> Telsa has an identity
crisis, and FE has no identityL338[18:27:25] <liach>
@CovertJaguar Can you release some emblems?
<liach>
@CovertJaguar Can you release some emblems?L339[18:28:14] <CovertJaguar> once I fix them and
port my constructor script, sure
<CovertJaguar> once I fix them and
port my constructor script, sureL340[18:36:13] <CovertJaguar> Sorry, I'm a bit
bitter about the whole power thing. The community cruficied my take
on MJ because a better salemen sold them the boring RF, who then
promptly turned around and abandoned it. And now the community
insists on trying to replace it with even more boring and non-lore
friendly alternatives. For a while I was hoping some new cool
sysems would rise from the ashes of RF, but Forge decided to step
in and "save the day".
<CovertJaguar> Sorry, I'm a bit
bitter about the whole power thing. The community cruficied my take
on MJ because a better salemen sold them the boring RF, who then
promptly turned around and abandoned it. And now the community
insists on trying to replace it with even more boring and non-lore
friendly alternatives. For a while I was hoping some new cool
sysems would rise from the ashes of RF, but Forge decided to step
in and "save the day".L341[18:37:15] <GeneralCamo> It's fine.
<GeneralCamo> It's fine.L342[18:37:34] <liach>
How would one be cool?
<liach>
How would one be cool?L343[18:37:42] <GeneralCamo> This is the kind-of
drama that led me to leave the minecraft community.
<GeneralCamo> This is the kind-of
drama that led me to leave the minecraft community.L344[18:38:05] <GeneralCamo> So I understand where
you are coming from
<GeneralCamo> So I understand where
you are coming fromL345[18:38:20]
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L347[18:39:44] <CovertJaguar> EU is a cool system, it
has design challenges, rewards and penalties
<CovertJaguar> EU is a cool system, it
has design challenges, rewards and penaltiesL348[18:39:52] <CovertJaguar> and its generally
balanced
<CovertJaguar> and its generally
balancedL349[18:40:11] <liach>
@CovertJaguar You can implement a custom EU system from the ic2
api
<liach>
@CovertJaguar You can implement a custom EU system from the ic2
apiL350[18:40:31] <GeneralCamo> Fully agreed
<GeneralCamo> Fully agreedL351[18:40:34] <GeneralCamo> I love EU
<GeneralCamo> I love EUL352[18:40:43] <CovertJaguar> MJ was a little weak on
Lore but shared many of the same lore properties of RF, and it had
challenges and penalties and rewards
<CovertJaguar> MJ was a little weak on
Lore but shared many of the same lore properties of RF, and it had
challenges and penalties and rewardsL353[18:41:04] <CovertJaguar> admittedly it was hard
to understand though
<CovertJaguar> admittedly it was hard
to understand thoughL354[18:41:16] <GeneralCamo> In 1.2.5 yes
<GeneralCamo> In 1.2.5 yesL355[18:41:30] <Player> mj's on
demand system is more realistic for large scale power too
L356[18:41:33] <GeneralCamo> I would say by the time
of 1.4.7 it was relatively easy to use
<GeneralCamo> I would say by the time
of 1.4.7 it was relatively easy to useL357[18:41:40] <Player> but of course
batteries make it so much easier..
L358[18:41:41] <GeneralCamo> And Buildcraft 6 made it
really FUN to use
<GeneralCamo> And Buildcraft 6 made it
really FUN to useL359[18:43:22] <GeneralCamo> And then Spacetoad moved
it to RF
<GeneralCamo> And then Spacetoad moved
it to RFL360[18:43:42] <CovertJaguar> Even Redpower's
system was unique and interesting with challenges
<CovertJaguar> Even Redpower's
system was unique and interesting with challengesL361[18:43:55] <GeneralCamo> Redpower's system
was designed to be as realistic as possible I remember
<GeneralCamo> Redpower's system
was designed to be as realistic as possible I rememberL362[18:44:14] <GeneralCamo> Though not to the absurd
lengths that Universal Energy had
<GeneralCamo> Though not to the absurd
lengths that Universal Energy hadL363[18:44:23] <CovertJaguar> No, I killed MJ because
Spacetoad removed everything that made it different from RF
<CovertJaguar> No, I killed MJ because
Spacetoad removed everything that made it different from RFL364[18:44:36] <GeneralCamo> Oh
<GeneralCamo> OhL365[18:44:39] <GeneralCamo> Fair
<GeneralCamo> FairL366[18:44:58] <CovertJaguar> once RC and Forestry
stopped using it, it was dead
<CovertJaguar> once RC and Forestry
stopped using it, it was deadL367[18:45:05] <CovertJaguar> so Buildcraft switched
to RF
<CovertJaguar> so Buildcraft switched
to RFL368[18:46:20] <GeneralCamo> Well, Buildcraft
apparently is switching back to MJ
<GeneralCamo> Well, Buildcraft
apparently is switching back to MJL369[18:46:30] <GeneralCamo> (Though I haven't
looked at it to see if it was in name only)
<GeneralCamo> (Though I haven't
looked at it to see if it was in name only)L370[18:46:34] <CovertJaguar> they've been
saying that for months =P
<CovertJaguar> they've been
saying that for months =PL371[18:46:46] <GeneralCamo> Forestry has moved to FE
now
<GeneralCamo> Forestry has moved to FE
nowL372[18:47:06] <GeneralCamo> AFAIK only Extra
Utilities 2 still uses RF
<GeneralCamo> AFAIK only Extra
Utilities 2 still uses RFL373[18:47:10] <GeneralCamo> (In 1.11)
<GeneralCamo> (In 1.11)L374[18:47:13] <CovertJaguar> mezz was one of the
biggest champions of FE
<CovertJaguar> mezz was one of the
biggest champions of FEL375[18:47:29] <liach>
We need a good mod that uses a system instead of each stupid
ticking tile
<liach>
We need a good mod that uses a system instead of each stupid
ticking tileL376[18:47:36] <CovertJaguar> still think its the
stupist thing Forge has done
<CovertJaguar> still think its the
stupist thing Forge has doneL377[18:47:42] <liach>
The system is like one from RC
<liach>
The system is like one from RCL378[18:49:21] <CovertJaguar> I'll admit
Railcraft Charge is kind of boring, but it has unique challenges to
overcome as perhaps the only system in Minecraft designed to
operate over vast and ephemeral numbers of chunks
<CovertJaguar> I'll admit
Railcraft Charge is kind of boring, but it has unique challenges to
overcome as perhaps the only system in Minecraft designed to
operate over vast and ephemeral numbers of chunksL379[18:50:09] <liach>
https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/commit/45097fed0c054407dedcf4cb9bab0e54b977d7e7#commitcomment-18996369
People talked democratically in an issue about energy, and then the
dictator added one he likes
<liach>
https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/commit/45097fed0c054407dedcf4cb9bab0e54b977d7e7#commitcomment-18996369
People talked democratically in an issue about energy, and then the
dictator added one he likesL380[18:52:23] <CovertJaguar> and at least it
pretends to be electricity instead of some vague "energy
unit"
<CovertJaguar> and at least it
pretends to be electricity instead of some vague "energy
unit"L381[18:52:57] <Player> technically
ic2's steady state enet performance only depends on the number
of sources and sinks
L382[18:53:15] <Player> once it built the
static representation it doesn't matter of there's 5 or
5M cables in between
L383[18:54:15] <liach> What algo does it
use?
L384[18:54:16] <CovertJaguar> but can it work when
those cables are unloaded?
<CovertJaguar> but can it work when
those cables are unloaded?L385[18:54:44] <vedrit> Didn't we already have
this conversation?
<vedrit> Didn't we already have
this conversation?L386[18:54:47] <Player> no it doesn't
persist any state
L387[18:54:55] <Kodos>
Hold up guys, I just got home, let me get some popcorn
<Kodos>
Hold up guys, I just got home, let me get some popcornL388[18:55:07] <Player> liach: the non-ex
one just builds source<->sink tables
L389[18:55:34] <CovertJaguar> my sinks move, chunks
load and unload, so I had to design a system that deals with that
as seamlessly as possible ;)
<CovertJaguar> my sinks move, chunks
load and unload, so I had to design a system that deals with that
as seamlessly as possible ;)L390[18:55:36] ⇦
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L391[18:55:38] <vedrit> Either I'm having some
major dejavu or we're re-discussing
<vedrit> Either I'm having some
major dejavu or we're re-discussingL392[18:56:09] <Player> pff who'd put
sinks on wheels.. ;)
L393[18:56:11] <Kodos>
Is the RF Transformer Charge -> Flux, or the other way
round
<Kodos>
Is the RF Transformer Charge -> Flux, or the other way
roundL394[18:56:25] <Kodos>
I don't have MC open atm and can't remember
<Kodos>
I don't have MC open atm and can't rememberL395[18:56:34] <CovertJaguar> other way
<CovertJaguar> other wayL396[18:56:43] <Kodos>
Right
<Kodos>
RightL397[18:56:57] <Kodos>
Genuinely, sincerely going to ask, since A) I don't know if it
has been before, and B) I'd like to know
<Kodos>
Genuinely, sincerely going to ask, since A) I don't know if it
has been before, and B) I'd like to knowL398[18:57:47] <Kodos>
Have you thought about/any interest in moving Railcraft to using
straight up Charge, and relying on the transformer to convert RF to
Flux, at its current 80% efficiency, encouraging players to use
Railcraft's generation methods for power
<Kodos>
Have you thought about/any interest in moving Railcraft to using
straight up Charge, and relying on the transformer to convert RF to
Flux, at its current 80% efficiency, encouraging players to use
Railcraft's generation methods for powerL399[18:58:01] ⇦
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L400[18:58:09] <Kodos>
And removing FE/RF/IF/what the fuck ever else compat from anything
BUT the transformer
<Kodos>
And removing FE/RF/IF/what the fuck ever else compat from anything
BUT the transformerL401[18:58:16] <CovertJaguar> yes, that's
generally where I want to head, remove myself from the energy
wars
<CovertJaguar> yes, that's
generally where I want to head, remove myself from the energy
warsL402[18:58:30] <CovertJaguar> but probably mostly
steam based with new steam pipes
<CovertJaguar> but probably mostly
steam based with new steam pipesL403[18:58:40] <Kodos>
Iron for LP and Steel for HP ?
<Kodos>
Iron for LP and Steel for HP ?L404[18:59:00] <Kodos>
With wittle windows to see the steam travel a la Factorio
<Kodos>
With wittle windows to see the steam travel a la FactorioL405[18:59:04] <vedrit> Compatibility with IC2
steam?
<vedrit> Compatibility with IC2
steam?L406[18:59:08] <Kodos>
Ew no
<Kodos>
Ew noL407[18:59:13] <Kodos>
That would be way too overpowered, tbh
<Kodos>
That would be way too overpowered, tbhL408[18:59:27] <CovertJaguar> I'd need to know
the density values of Ic2 steam
<CovertJaguar> I'd need to know
the density values of Ic2 steamL409[18:59:27] <Kodos>
What you can do with a bucket of IC2 Steam vs RC Steam is vastly
different
<Kodos>
What you can do with a bucket of IC2 Steam vs RC Steam is vastly
differentL410[19:00:03] <CovertJaguar> I intentionally made RC
Steam very low energy density to make storage and transport
inefficient
<CovertJaguar> I intentionally made RC
Steam very low energy density to make storage and transport
inefficientL411[19:00:08] <vedrit> I really don't know. I
tend make hybrid systems that just work (or try to) without really
knowing numbers
<vedrit> I really don't know. I
tend make hybrid systems that just work (or try to) without really
knowing numbersL412[19:01:27] <Kodos>
Honestly, I'd like to see a multiblock, very aesthetically
pleasing, RC Charge capacitor. Make it have a very very low, slow
passive discharge rate so that it can be used for storage if
you're mass producing, otherwise it makes a solid buffer
<Kodos>
Honestly, I'd like to see a multiblock, very aesthetically
pleasing, RC Charge capacitor. Make it have a very very low, slow
passive discharge rate so that it can be used for storage if
you're mass producing, otherwise it makes a solid bufferL413[19:01:50] <CovertJaguar> I need to add some kind
of battery for the rail network
<CovertJaguar> I need to add some kind
of battery for the rail networkL414[19:01:59] <Kodos>
That's mainly why I want it
<Kodos>
That's mainly why I want itL415[19:02:05] <Kodos>
There's no way to 'store' charge for it atm
afaik
<Kodos>
There's no way to 'store' charge for it atm
afaikL416[19:02:05] <CovertJaguar> just to keep the trains
running as the network rebuilds itself on server start
<CovertJaguar> just to keep the trains
running as the network rebuilds itself on server startL417[19:02:14] <Kodos>
And the Flux Transformer is 20% loss
<Kodos>
And the Flux Transformer is 20% lossL418[19:02:22] <Kodos>
In exchange for storage, that's a bit much
<Kodos>
In exchange for storage, that's a bit muchL419[19:03:22] <CovertJaguar> I like the idea of
making the charge you get out, less than the charge you put
in
<CovertJaguar> I like the idea of
making the charge you get out, less than the charge you put
inL420[19:03:35] <vedrit> It stands to reason
<vedrit> It stands to reasonL421[19:03:59] <Kodos>
Covert th at's more than fair
<Kodos>
Covert th at's more than fairL422[19:04:03] <GeneralCamo> Perhaps add multiple
types of "battery" blocks, each with their own
requirements, weaknesses, and strengths?
<GeneralCamo> Perhaps add multiple
types of "battery" blocks, each with their own
requirements, weaknesses, and strengths?L423[19:04:23] <Kodos>
Higher capacity, lower I/O rate vs lower capacity, but higher
I/O?
<Kodos>
Higher capacity, lower I/O rate vs lower capacity, but higher
I/O?L424[19:04:33] <Kodos>
IIRC Electrical Age does this
<Kodos>
IIRC Electrical Age does thisL425[19:05:13] <GeneralCamo> Also sizes
<GeneralCamo> Also sizesL426[19:05:29] <neptunepunk> Battery
multiblocks!
L427[19:05:36] <GeneralCamo> Indeed
<GeneralCamo> IndeedL428[19:05:55] <CovertJaguar> heh, I suppose I could
do something like that
<CovertJaguar> heh, I suppose I could
do something like thatL429[19:06:39] <GeneralCamo> Early-Game lead-acid
batteries that are cheap clean and reliable. Up to the late game
Lithium Ion batteries that are compact but explosive if you do
something wrong.
<GeneralCamo> Early-Game lead-acid
batteries that are cheap clean and reliable. Up to the late game
Lithium Ion batteries that are compact but explosive if you do
something wrong.L430[19:06:53] <Kodos>
HIgher IO would be good for the high draw of the server restarting
and the entire network loading and drawing at once, vs a low IO
high capacity to run the network long term
<Kodos>
HIgher IO would be good for the high draw of the server restarting
and the entire network loading and drawing at once, vs a low IO
high capacity to run the network long termL431[19:07:06] <Kodos>
Wonder if OC Supports Railcraft Charge as power
<Kodos>
Wonder if OC Supports Railcraft Charge as powerL432[19:07:12] <GeneralCamo> OC?
<GeneralCamo> OC?L433[19:07:14] <Kodos>
openComputers
<Kodos>
openComputersL434[19:07:24] <GeneralCamo> If it doesn't, then
an addon will make it support it
<GeneralCamo> If it doesn't, then
an addon will make it support itL435[19:07:33] <Kodos>
Nah, if it doesn't, support would likely get added
directly
<Kodos>
Nah, if it doesn't, support would likely get added
directlyL436[19:07:41] <Kodos>
Sangar supports tons of stuff
<Kodos>
Sangar supports tons of stuffL437[19:07:42] <GeneralCamo> Pull Request
<GeneralCamo> Pull RequestL438[19:08:00] <GeneralCamo> I wonder about
Forestry
<GeneralCamo> I wonder about
ForestryL439[19:08:16] <GeneralCamo> Will Sengir add an
Electrical Engine for RC? Use the existing IC2 engine for it? Or
what?
<GeneralCamo> Will Sengir add an
Electrical Engine for RC? Use the existing IC2 engine for it? Or
what?L440[19:08:34] <Kodos>
Does Sengir even work on Forestry anymore? I thought it was mostly
Mezz now
<Kodos>
Does Sengir even work on Forestry anymore? I thought it was mostly
Mezz nowL441[19:09:11] <CovertJaguar> Nickle-Iron ->
Lead-Acid -> ?
<CovertJaguar> Nickle-Iron ->
Lead-Acid -> ?L442[19:09:12]
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L443[19:09:50] <CovertJaguar> The EU Feeder can do a
1-to-1 conversion from EU to Charge
<CovertJaguar> The EU Feeder can do a
1-to-1 conversion from EU to ChargeL444[19:10:07] <CovertJaguar> mezz is in charge of
Forestry
<CovertJaguar> mezz is in charge of
ForestryL445[19:10:14] <GeneralCamo> Oh
<GeneralCamo> OhL446[19:11:21] ⇦
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L447[19:11:30] <GeneralCamo> I didn't know
SirSengir left
<GeneralCamo> I didn't know
SirSengir leftL448[19:12:30] <CovertJaguar> he's been retired
for a long time now, 3 years?
<CovertJaguar> he's been retired
for a long time now, 3 years?L449[19:12:54] <GeneralCamo> Ohh
<GeneralCamo> OhhL450[19:13:02] <GeneralCamo> mezz though..
that's a name I never heard of
<GeneralCamo> mezz though..
that's a name I never heard ofL451[19:13:09] <GeneralCamo> Yet apparently he was
all for FE?
<GeneralCamo> Yet apparently he was
all for FE?L452[19:13:19]
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L453[19:13:31] <CovertJaguar> mezz does Forestry,
JEI, and a lot of Forge stuff these days
<CovertJaguar> mezz does Forestry,
JEI, and a lot of Forge stuff these daysL454[19:14:37] <GeneralCamo> He new or
something?
<GeneralCamo> He new or
something?L455[19:14:42] <GeneralCamo> Relatively?
<GeneralCamo> Relatively?L456[19:14:47] <CovertJaguar> couple years
<CovertJaguar> couple yearsL457[19:14:59] <GeneralCamo> Oh apparently he was a
contributor to Magic Bees
<GeneralCamo> Oh apparently he was a
contributor to Magic BeesL458[19:15:43] <CovertJaguar> he kind of came out of
nowhere while I was maintaining Forestry and basically did all the
things I didn't have time to do
<CovertJaguar> he kind of came out of
nowhere while I was maintaining Forestry and basically did all the
things I didn't have time to doL459[19:16:17] <CovertJaguar> eventaully I just kind
of pulled back and let him have full reign as he was doing a great
job
<CovertJaguar> eventaully I just kind
of pulled back and let him have full reign as he was doing a great
jobL460[19:16:32] <CovertJaguar> we generally get along
well, though I do think he is wrong about FE
<CovertJaguar> we generally get along
well, though I do think he is wrong about FEL461[19:19:14] <Kodos>
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a centralized into
Forge energy system, but FE was NOT the solution
<Kodos>
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a centralized into
Forge energy system, but FE was NOT the solutionL462[19:19:33] <Frani>
anyone know examples of Mixins?
<Frani>
anyone know examples of Mixins?L463[19:19:42] <Kodos>
I prefer graham cracker myself
<Kodos>
I prefer graham cracker myselfL464[19:19:59] <Kodos>
Or are we not talking about Cold Stone Creamery
<Kodos>
Or are we not talking about Cold Stone CreameryL465[19:22:33] <GeneralCamo> Alright, so now this is
screwy
<GeneralCamo> Alright, so now this is
screwyL466[19:22:49] <GeneralCamo> ExtraUtilities 2
requires a higher JEI version than is packaged with Railcraft
builds
<GeneralCamo> ExtraUtilities 2
requires a higher JEI version than is packaged with Railcraft
buildsL467[19:23:12] <GeneralCamo> ...but I can't put
in the newer JEI version until I remove the older one that was
compiled with Railcraft
<GeneralCamo> ...but I can't put
in the newer JEI version until I remove the older one that was
compiled with RailcraftL468[19:23:15] <GeneralCamo> And I can't find
that one
<GeneralCamo> And I can't find
that oneL469[19:24:36] <CovertJaguar> remove?
<CovertJaguar> remove?L470[19:24:45] <CovertJaguar> it shouldn't be
packeges with Railcraft
<CovertJaguar> it shouldn't be
packeges with RailcraftL471[19:25:01] <GeneralCamo> Why is JEI enabled when
I compile this then...
<GeneralCamo> Why is JEI enabled when
I compile this then...L472[19:25:28] <GeneralCamo> And Forestry?1
<GeneralCamo> And Forestry?1L473[19:25:29] <GeneralCamo> And Forestry?!
<GeneralCamo> And Forestry?!L474[19:25:31] <CovertJaguar> oh....the dev
environment pulls it in
<CovertJaguar> oh....the dev
environment pulls it inL475[19:25:43] <CovertJaguar> the release builds
don't include it
<CovertJaguar> the release builds
don't include itL476[19:26:23] <GeneralCamo> Wait I can just modify
the build settings to include a newer version of JEI
<GeneralCamo> Wait I can just modify
the build settings to include a newer version of JEIL477[19:26:47] <CovertJaguar> um...its supposed to
download the latest one
<CovertJaguar> um...its supposed to
download the latest oneL478[19:26:57] <CovertJaguar> but if you are
producing jars, it shouldn't matter
<CovertJaguar> but if you are
producing jars, it shouldn't matterL479[19:29:00] <GeneralCamo> Interesting
<GeneralCamo> InterestingL480[19:29:45] <GeneralCamo> Railcraft pulls
3.13.2.349, while xu2 requires 3.13.2.380
<GeneralCamo> Railcraft pulls
3.13.2.349, while xu2 requires 3.13.2.380L481[19:30:01] <GeneralCamo> Railcraft pulls
3.13.2.349, while xu2 requires 3.13.3.380
<GeneralCamo> Railcraft pulls
3.13.2.349, while xu2 requires 3.13.3.380L482[19:31:54] <CovertJaguar> technically, Railcraft
pulls Forestry, which pulls JEI
<CovertJaguar> technically, Railcraft
pulls Forestry, which pulls JEIL483[19:31:58] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar I was just
running it in the dev environemtn
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar I was just
running it in the dev environemtnL484[19:32:01] <GeneralCamo> Ohhh
<GeneralCamo> OhhhL485[19:32:05] <GeneralCamo> That would make
sense
<GeneralCamo> That would make
senseL486[19:32:33] <CovertJaguar> you could try changing
the forestry version in "version/gradle.properties"
<CovertJaguar> you could try changing
the forestry version in "version/gradle.properties"L487[19:32:43] <CovertJaguar> I haven't looked
to see if its current
<CovertJaguar> I haven't looked
to see if its currentL488[19:33:09] <CovertJaguar> it supposed to pull the
latest one, but "meh, who knows"
<CovertJaguar> it supposed to pull the
latest one, but "meh, who knows"L489[19:33:13] <GeneralCamo> Definitely isn't
current since Forestry is in 1.11, but I'll check for currency
in 1.10
<GeneralCamo> Definitely isn't
current since Forestry is in 1.11, but I'll check for currency
in 1.10L490[19:34:49] <GeneralCamo> oh
<GeneralCamo> ohL491[19:34:52]
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L492[19:34:54] <GeneralCamo> Several versions
behind
<GeneralCamo> Several versions
behindL493[19:34:59] <GeneralCamo> 5.2.17.368 is the latest
1.10 build
<GeneralCamo> 5.2.17.368 is the latest
1.10 buildL494[19:35:13] <GeneralCamo> 5.1.15.295 is what RC
calls
<GeneralCamo> 5.1.15.295 is what RC
callsL495[19:35:28] <CovertJaguar> technically
it pulls [5.1.15.295,)
L496[19:35:36] <CovertJaguar> which should
include 5.2.17.368
L497[19:36:05] <GeneralCamo> Let me have a look at it
in-game then when the environment is running
<GeneralCamo> Let me have a look at it
in-game then when the environment is runningL498[19:39:24] <CovertJaguar> looks like mine pulled
Forestry 5.2.17.368 and JEI 3.13.2.349
<CovertJaguar> looks like mine pulled
Forestry 5.2.17.368 and JEI 3.13.2.349L499[19:39:53] <GeneralCamo> Alright, so forestry is
pulling the older version
<GeneralCamo> Alright, so forestry is
pulling the older versionL500[19:40:06] <GeneralCamo> And Forestry is at its
latest for 1.10
<GeneralCamo> And Forestry is at its
latest for 1.10L501[19:40:59] <CovertJaguar> looks like Forestry
hardcode the included JEI version: https://github.com/ForestryMC/ForestryMC/blob/mc-1.10/gradle.properties
<CovertJaguar> looks like Forestry
hardcode the included JEI version: https://github.com/ForestryMC/ForestryMC/blob/mc-1.10/gradle.propertiesL502[19:42:59] <GeneralCamo> Yep
<GeneralCamo> YepL503[19:43:05] <GeneralCamo> I just looked at
that
<GeneralCamo> I just looked at
thatL504[19:43:32] <GeneralCamo> Well this just means I
need to use an alternative method to figure out how RWTema
registers his items
<GeneralCamo> Well this just means I
need to use an alternative method to figure out how RWTema
registers his itemsL505[19:43:42] <CovertJaguar> heh
<CovertJaguar> hehL506[19:44:00] <GeneralCamo> ..considering what I
found out yesterday, this might be more trouble than its
worth
<GeneralCamo> ..considering what I
found out yesterday, this might be more trouble than its
worthL507[19:46:35] <GeneralCamo> Also tip for you
CovertJaguar: Do not base anything off of xu2's power
systems
<GeneralCamo> Also tip for you
CovertJaguar: Do not base anything off of xu2's power
systemsL508[19:46:42] <GeneralCamo> Yes, systems
plural
<GeneralCamo> Yes, systems
pluralL509[19:47:10] <GeneralCamo> And it isn't like
IC2's multiple systems for Heat, Kinesis, and Energy
<GeneralCamo> And it isn't like
IC2's multiple systems for Heat, Kinesis, and EnergyL510[19:47:18] <GeneralCamo> Two seperate energy
systems
<GeneralCamo> Two seperate energy
systemsL511[19:50:44] <CovertJaguar> heh, I only used it for
testing drums
<CovertJaguar> heh, I only used it for
testing drumsL512[19:51:08] <Frani>
I dont like GP
<Frani>
I dont like GPL513[19:51:19] <Frani>
because you dont really generate it
<Frani>
because you dont really generate itL514[19:51:33] <Frani>
you just... place
<Frani>
you just... placeL515[19:52:33] <GeneralCamo> And you require it to do
anything with RF in that mod
<GeneralCamo> And you require it to do
anything with RF in that modL516[19:53:07] <GeneralCamo> (Speaking of which, xu2
is the only mod that hasn't switched from RF to FE or an
alternative. Which makes it REAL FUN (not) to use it with other
mods)
<GeneralCamo> (Speaking of which, xu2
is the only mod that hasn't switched from RF to FE or an
alternative. Which makes it REAL FUN (not) to use it with other
mods)L517[19:53:16] <GeneralCamo> (Speaking of which, xu2
is the only mod in 1.11 that hasn't switched from RF to FE or
an alternative. Which makes it REAL FUN (not) to use it with other
mods)
<GeneralCamo> (Speaking of which, xu2
is the only mod in 1.11 that hasn't switched from RF to FE or
an alternative. Which makes it REAL FUN (not) to use it with other
mods)L518[19:53:55] <CovertJaguar> sounds like I need to
move "ditch energy systems" up on my todo list
<CovertJaguar> sounds like I need to
move "ditch energy systems" up on my todo listL519[19:54:33] <GeneralCamo> As I said, I love the
idea of using RC 100% in Railcraft
<GeneralCamo> As I said, I love the
idea of using RC 100% in RailcraftL520[19:56:48] <GeneralCamo> Alright then, I think
I'm going to completely forget about implementing Red Coal as
a Blast Furnace Fuel for right now
<GeneralCamo> Alright then, I think
I'm going to completely forget about implementing Red Coal as
a Blast Furnace Fuel for right nowL521[19:59:41] <Kodos>
I always prefer finding an IE Coal Vein, and having an excavator
unload into a train, which transports the coal to a coke plant,
transporting the coke to another train which moves it to my power
station
<Kodos>
I always prefer finding an IE Coal Vein, and having an excavator
unload into a train, which transports the coal to a coke plant,
transporting the coke to another train which moves it to my power
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L532[20:01:31] <Kodos>
I will only ever use Steam Locos for transport trains, and electric
is for passenger trains
<Kodos>
I will only ever use Steam Locos for transport trains, and electric
is for passenger trainsL533[20:13:15] <GeneralCamo> Interesting
<GeneralCamo> InterestingL534[20:13:21] <GeneralCamo> Why the
distinction?
<GeneralCamo> Why the
distinction?L535[20:14:04] <Kodos>
Honestly? Aesthetics
<Kodos>
Honestly? AestheticsL536[20:14:25] <Kodos>
Electric trains look like they'd be more appropriate for
passenger trains, like Amtrak, etc
<Kodos>
Electric trains look like they'd be more appropriate for
passenger trains, like Amtrak, etcL537[20:14:38] <Kodos>
Steam locos look like trains of old, that hauled Tinders, cabooses,
etc
<Kodos>
Steam locos look like trains of old, that hauled Tinders, cabooses,
etcL538[20:15:07] <GeneralCamo> Hopefully the
introduction of Diesel Trains will add another choice for
freight
<GeneralCamo> Hopefully the
introduction of Diesel Trains will add another choice for
freightL539[20:15:21] <Joshwoo70> wtf? i have this weird
deja vu that we talked about thia months back...
<Joshwoo70> wtf? i have this weird
deja vu that we talked about thia months back...L541[20:18:16] <GeneralCamo> I'm thinking a
model semi-based off of the SD40-2 would work well
<GeneralCamo> I'm thinking a
model semi-based off of the SD40-2 would work wellL542[20:18:37] <GeneralCamo> (The thing's
already pretty blocky)
<GeneralCamo> (The thing's
already pretty blocky)L543[20:23:28] <Natesky9> Ditching energy system from
Railcraft altogether? Does this mean we steampunk now?
<Natesky9> Ditching energy system from
Railcraft altogether? Does this mean we steampunk now?L544[20:23:37] <GeneralCamo> Not ditching it
<GeneralCamo> Not ditching itL545[20:23:42] <GeneralCamo> Using our own
<GeneralCamo> Using our ownL546[20:24:24] <Natesky9> Well, if you think about
it, the only thing that uses charge is the electric tracks
<Natesky9> Well, if you think about
it, the only thing that uses charge is the electric tracksL547[20:25:20] <GeneralCamo> >Converts Rolling
Machine and Rock Crusher to Charge
<GeneralCamo> >Converts Rolling
Machine and Rock Crusher to ChargeL548[20:25:24] <GeneralCamo> K
<GeneralCamo> KL549[20:25:59] <Natesky9> Well, the rock crusher, as
well as the new distillation blocks, and the rolling machine as
well, could just run off of steam
<Natesky9> Well, the rock crusher, as
well as the new distillation blocks, and the rolling machine as
well, could just run off of steamL550[20:26:15] <Frani>
run with nothing?
<Frani>
run with nothing?L551[20:26:19] <GeneralCamo> Electrolysis with
Steam
<GeneralCamo> Electrolysis with
SteamL552[20:26:23] <GeneralCamo> You're funny
<GeneralCamo> You're funnyL553[20:28:25] <Natesky9> Err, oil is processed
through fractional distillation, not electrolysis
<Natesky9> Err, oil is processed
through fractional distillation, not electrolysisL554[20:28:56] <GeneralCamo> (Well ore processing
might involve some liquids)
<GeneralCamo> (Well ore processing
might involve some liquids)L555[20:30:01] <Natesky9> Well, that's in the
near future
<Natesky9> Well, that's in the
near futureL556[20:31:08] <Natesky9> As far as I understand, the
first thing that was on the list for the chem lab was fuels
<Natesky9> As far as I understand, the
first thing that was on the list for the chem lab was fuelsL557[20:31:10] <GeneralCamo> You are right though in
that Fractional Distillation only needs heat
<GeneralCamo> You are right though in
that Fractional Distillation only needs heatL558[20:31:35] <Joshwoo70> true
<Joshwoo70> trueL559[20:31:37] <Joshwoo70> but
<Joshwoo70> butL560[20:31:48] <Joshwoo70> ores you have to do
electrolysis
<Joshwoo70> ores you have to do
electrolysisL561[20:31:56] <Natesky9> Yeah, if anything, that
would be similar to the boiler, with a fire box and a tank
<Natesky9> Yeah, if anything, that
would be similar to the boiler, with a fire box and a tankL562[20:32:01] <Joshwoo70> or a blast furnace
<Joshwoo70> or a blast furnaceL563[20:32:18] <Natesky9> Well, I meant the
distillation
<Natesky9> Well, I meant the
distillationL564[20:32:41] <Natesky9> The ores, I'd like to
see some sort of crucible smelting
<Natesky9> The ores, I'd like to
see some sort of crucible smeltingL565[20:33:16] <Joshwoo70> nah
<Joshwoo70> nahL566[20:34:03] <GeneralCamo> Distillation Tower
Multiblock
<GeneralCamo> Distillation Tower
MultiblockL567[20:34:17] <Natesky9> There's a mod that had
something similar
<Natesky9> There's a mod that had
something similarL568[20:34:32] <Natesky9> Pneumaticraft?
<Natesky9> Pneumaticraft?L569[20:34:42] <Kodos>
Magneticraft
<Kodos>
MagneticraftL570[20:35:05] <GeneralCamo> Requires: Saturated
Steam, Heat Source (Electric, Liquid, or Solid)
<GeneralCamo> Requires: Saturated
Steam, Heat Source (Electric, Liquid, or Solid)L571[20:35:06] <GeneralCamo> Processes: Oil, Biomass,
etc.
<GeneralCamo> Processes: Oil, Biomass,
etc.L572[20:35:06] <GeneralCamo> Produces: Processed
Hydrocarbons
<GeneralCamo> Produces: Processed
HydrocarbonsL573[20:37:15] <GeneralCamo> Basically an expensive
multiblock that can produce a lot of high-energy hydrocarbons. But
requires a reliable source of steam and fuel
<GeneralCamo> Basically an expensive
multiblock that can produce a lot of high-energy hydrocarbons. But
requires a reliable source of steam and fuelL574[20:39:08] <GeneralCamo> (Apparently real-life
industrial fractional distillers require steam to aid in heat
transfer, seperation, and to reduce the boiling point of what is
being processed. So this actually works out well in
Railcraft's favor)
<GeneralCamo> (Apparently real-life
industrial fractional distillers require steam to aid in heat
transfer, seperation, and to reduce the boiling point of what is
being processed. So this actually works out well in
Railcraft's favor)L575[20:40:58] <Natesky9> I told you, most everything
in the mod can be powered with steam
<Natesky9> I told you, most everything
in the mod can be powered with steamL576[20:41:46] <GeneralCamo> Well you can't use
only steam to run this thing
<GeneralCamo> Well you can't use
only steam to run this thingL577[20:42:16] <GeneralCamo> You still need a heat
source that can go well above 500C
<GeneralCamo> You still need a heat
source that can go well above 500CL578[20:42:34] <GeneralCamo> Oh I just thought of
something
<GeneralCamo> Oh I just thought of
somethingL579[20:43:04] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar What are
your thoughts on an Electric Firebox? Later this could be used for
stuff like the Fractional Distiller, but right now it could be used
to convert RC --> Steam
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar What are
your thoughts on an Electric Firebox? Later this could be used for
stuff like the Fractional Distiller, but right now it could be used
to convert RC --> SteamL580[20:43:47] <Natesky9> An industrial water
heater?
<Natesky9> An industrial water
heater?L581[20:43:56] <Natesky9> A play on words, to be
sure
<Natesky9> A play on words, to be
sureL582[20:48:39] <CovertJaguar> I might add a
Distilation Tower eventually, but the initial plan is to create
SynDiesel out of Coke and Steam
<CovertJaguar> I might add a
Distilation Tower eventually, but the initial plan is to create
SynDiesel out of Coke and SteamL583[20:50:12] <Natesky9> Inaequidens furt biodiesel
/
<Natesky9> Inaequidens furt biodiesel
/L584[20:50:13]
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L589[20:51:54] <Natesky9> Any plans for ethanol or
other combinations or fuel?
<Natesky9> Any plans for ethanol or
other combinations or fuel?L590[20:52:39] <CovertJaguar>
coke+steam->SynGas->SynDiesel
<CovertJaguar>
coke+steam->SynGas->SynDieselL591[20:53:14] <CovertJaguar> not without
processing
<CovertJaguar> not without
processingL592[20:53:31] <CovertJaguar> Oil could be distilled
into Diesel
<CovertJaguar> Oil could be distilled
into DieselL593[20:53:40] <CovertJaguar> but Ethanol isn't
going to run a Diesel
<CovertJaguar> but Ethanol isn't
going to run a DieselL594[20:54:08] <Natesky9> Well, I was wondering
because you have all sorts of different fuels, some fictional, some
realistic
<Natesky9> Well, I was wondering
because you have all sorts of different fuels, some fictional, some
realisticL595[20:54:25] <Natesky9> Mostly in the theme of
Minecraft though
<Natesky9> Mostly in the theme of
Minecraft thoughL596[20:54:45] <Natesky9> Well, not the diesel but
for liquid fuel for a firebox
<Natesky9> Well, not the diesel but
for liquid fuel for a fireboxL597[20:55:15] <CovertJaguar> I'm not sure I
follow
<CovertJaguar> I'm not sure I
followL598[20:55:32] <Natesky9> Trying to type by speaking
into my phone isn't easy
<Natesky9> Trying to type by speaking
into my phone isn't easyL599[20:55:36] <Kodos>
Lol
<Kodos>
LolL600[20:56:29] <Natesky9> The recipes, they are going
to be one solid plus one liquid catalyst?
<Natesky9> The recipes, they are going
to be one solid plus one liquid catalyst?L601[20:57:02] <Natesky9> Liquid/gas
<Natesky9> Liquid/gasL602[20:57:10] <CovertJaguar> the Steam Locomotive is
intended to be low infrastructure, but inefficient. The Electric
needs infrastructure but has cheap fuel. And the Diesel has a large
fuel infrastructure, but efficient and long lasting fuel
<CovertJaguar> the Steam Locomotive is
intended to be low infrastructure, but inefficient. The Electric
needs infrastructure but has cheap fuel. And the Diesel has a large
fuel infrastructure, but efficient and long lasting fuelL603[20:57:42] <CovertJaguar> hah, no the ChemLab
will be a wonder of engineering enabling all kinds of
reactions
<CovertJaguar> hah, no the ChemLab
will be a wonder of engineering enabling all kinds of
reactionsL604[20:58:08] <GeneralCamo> So like the Buildcraft
refinery was intended to be? Except more realistic?
<GeneralCamo> So like the Buildcraft
refinery was intended to be? Except more realistic?L605[20:58:15] <CovertJaguar> reactions will have
temperature ranges where they occur that you will need to manage
with addon heaters and coolers
<CovertJaguar> reactions will have
temperature ranges where they occur that you will need to manage
with addon heaters and coolersL606[20:59:06] <CovertJaguar> there will also be
Evaperator, Air Injection, and Catalyzer addons
<CovertJaguar> there will also be
Evaperator, Air Injection, and Catalyzer addonsL607[20:59:23] <Natesky9> So, the that combined with
alloying mechanics ?
<Natesky9> So, the that combined with
alloying mechanics ?L608[20:59:26] <CovertJaguar> it will have both solid
and fluid inputs and outputs
<CovertJaguar> it will have both solid
and fluid inputs and outputsL609[20:59:37] <Natesky9> "V a T "
<Natesky9> "V a T "L610[21:00:34] <GeneralCamo> I see addon
potential
<GeneralCamo> I see addon
potentialL611[21:00:50] <GeneralCamo> Forestry Integration.
Refine Seed OIl into Biodiesel and other component parts
<GeneralCamo> Forestry Integration.
Refine Seed OIl into Biodiesel and other component partsL612[21:01:17] ⇦
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L613[21:01:17] <Natesky9> I don't know, I think
that this idea is great but needs more structure
<Natesky9> I don't know, I think
that this idea is great but needs more structureL614[21:02:49] <GeneralCamo> Well it's only on
paper
<GeneralCamo> Well it's only on
paperL615[21:03:16] <Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , linseed oil and another
solid ingredient to make a form of propane
<Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , linseed oil and another
solid ingredient to make a form of propaneL616[21:03:42] <Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , then seed oil and
another solid ingredient to make a form of propane
<Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , then seed oil and
another solid ingredient to make a form of propaneL617[21:04:00] <Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , then seed oil and
another solid ingredient to make a form of methane
<Natesky9> I was actually just about
to suggest seed oil from seeds and steam , then seed oil and
another solid ingredient to make a form of methaneL618[21:05:38] <Natesky9> Like I said it has a lot of
potential but I think it should be structured to have enough
simplicity versus flexibility
<Natesky9> Like I said it has a lot of
potential but I think it should be structured to have enough
simplicity versus flexibilityL619[21:08:35] <Natesky9> See: reactant dynamo from
thermal expansion
<Natesky9> See: reactant dynamo from
thermal expansionL620[21:08:43]
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L623[21:45:06] <Natesky9> So, at the most basic form,
the chem lab is a crafting mechanic, right?
<Natesky9> So, at the most basic form,
the chem lab is a crafting mechanic, right?L624[21:45:28] <Natesky9> under the right conditions,
this input turns into this output
<Natesky9> under the right conditions,
this input turns into this outputL625[21:51:15]
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L626[22:02:01] <GeneralCamo> I mean that's
pretty much how anything is done in minecraft
<GeneralCamo> I mean that's
pretty much how anything is done in minecraftL627[22:02:19] <GeneralCamo> Farming, mining, or
crafting
<GeneralCamo> Farming, mining, or
craftingL628[22:06:12] <Natesky9> Well, yes
<Natesky9> Well, yesL629[22:06:21] <Natesky9> if you look at something
hard enough
<Natesky9> if you look at something
hard enoughL630[22:06:54] <Natesky9> My point was that you
already have so many combinations with 1 item + 1 fluid
<Natesky9> My point was that you
already have so many combinations with 1 item + 1 fluidL631[22:22:44] <Kodos>
Will the chemlab have a firebox base to account for the temperature
application?
<Kodos>
Will the chemlab have a firebox base to account for the temperature
application?L632[22:22:53] <Kodos>
Thus allowing us to liquid or solid fuel it
<Kodos>
Thus allowing us to liquid or solid fuel itL633[22:25:21] ⇦
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L642[23:29:36] <CovertJaguar> There will be multiple
heater types
<CovertJaguar> There will be multiple
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L646[23:57:12] <Kodos>
Neat
<Kodos>
NeatL647[23:57:29] <Kodos>
What are the IO sides of a Rock Crusher, for the sake of using AE2?
(I know, i hate it too, but not my server/base
<Kodos>
What are the IO sides of a Rock Crusher, for the sake of using AE2?
(I know, i hate it too, but not my server/base