L1[00:00:49] <Nirek> if it either has no
recipe or doesn't exist, it hasn't been ported yet
L2[00:01:20] 
<AngelOfDeath> thanks
<AngelOfDeath> thanksL3[00:09:33] <vedrit> Yeah, track junctions only
just (?) got updated
<vedrit> Yeah, track junctions only
just (?) got updatedL4[00:09:43] <vedrit> I think signals are a little
further down the line
<vedrit> I think signals are a little
further down the lineL5[00:09:54] <vedrit> Hah. 'Down the
line'
<vedrit> Hah. 'Down the
line'L6[00:10:05] <vedrit> That's a train
thing.
<vedrit> That's a train
thing.L7[00:16:01] <Xilandro> ~w robot
L8[00:16:05] <Xilandro> err
L9[00:16:12] <Xilandro> Sorreh
>.>
L10[00:26:31] <CovertJaguar> singals shouldn't
be too hard
<CovertJaguar> singals shouldn't
be too hardL11[00:26:58] <CovertJaguar> the post connection are
a tad annoying, but not hard
<CovertJaguar> the post connection are
a tad annoying, but not hardL12[00:28:34] <CovertJaguar> I'll probably post
a beta version soon, maybe monday, with the wyes and
junctions
<CovertJaguar> I'll probably post
a beta version soon, maybe monday, with the wyes and
junctionsL13[00:43:29] <vedrit> Woo!
<vedrit> Woo!L14[00:55:48] ⇦
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Why did it take 40 mins to publish?
<liach>
Why did it take 40 mins to publish?L24[01:25:28] ⇦
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L26[01:46:35] <CovertJaguar> I've not be
impressed with Travis' reliability
<CovertJaguar> I've not be
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L28[02:10:12] <Xilandro> Can Electric Locos
pull from adjacent IC2 Carts in a train?
L29[02:12:41] <Xilandro> Wheee it can
=D
L30[02:13:44] <bballboy2002> they can but energy
carts make the locomotive EXTREMELY slow
<bballboy2002> they can but energy
carts make the locomotive EXTREMELY slowL31[02:14:10] <Xilandro> Guessing
that's a balance thing?
L32[02:14:17] <bballboy2002> yep
<bballboy2002> yepL33[02:14:25] <Xilandro> To encourage
moving raw fuels and such, and generate power where it's
needed
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L35[02:16:50] <vedrit> Oh, yeah, @CovertJaguar did
the cause to carts unlinking get resolved?
<vedrit> Oh, yeah, @CovertJaguar did
the cause to carts unlinking get resolved?L36[02:17:02] <vedrit> Or at least tracked
down?
<vedrit> Or at least tracked
down?L37[02:17:09] <CovertJaguar> not yet
<CovertJaguar> not yetL38[02:17:16] <CovertJaguar> no one really has any
ideas
<CovertJaguar> no one really has any
ideasL39[02:17:29] <vedrit> Hmm....
<vedrit> Hmm....L40[02:17:53] <vedrit> *would help but knows next to
nothing about how it works or should work*
<vedrit> *would help but knows next to
nothing about how it works or should work*L41[02:18:20] <liach>
Can I add cannot fix tag for that issue?
<liach>
Can I add cannot fix tag for that issue?L42[02:34:27] ⇦
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L45[03:30:35] <CovertJaguar> no, that only goes on
issue that I know what or where the problem is and determine it to
be either beyond my ability or the scope of the mod
<CovertJaguar> no, that only goes on
issue that I know what or where the problem is and determine it to
be either beyond my ability or the scope of the modL46[03:31:06] <CovertJaguar> I don't have
enough information about this specific issue yet to, and I highly
doubt its unfixable
<CovertJaguar> I don't have
enough information about this specific issue yet to, and I highly
doubt its unfixableL47[03:48:44] <Natesky9> Is there a way to detect if
a cart has broken it's link?
<Natesky9> Is there a way to detect if
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L49[03:50:02] <Natesky9> I've seen that when
carts get too far apart, they can break their link. Maybe it's
something to do with one cart unloading, and forcing a break on the
other carts
<Natesky9> I've seen that when
carts get too far apart, they can break their link. Maybe it's
something to do with one cart unloading, and forcing a break on the
other cartsL50[04:14:08] <CovertJaguar> Its difficult to tell
the difference between and unloaded cart and a broken link, the
system treats them the same
<CovertJaguar> Its difficult to tell
the difference between and unloaded cart and a broken link, the
system treats them the sameL51[04:14:59] <Joshwoo70> i lokd the message PR says
what i really want
<Joshwoo70> i lokd the message PR says
what i really wantL52[04:15:05] <CovertJaguar> And more likely the
link data is being wiped
<CovertJaguar> And more likely the
link data is being wipedL53[04:15:11] <Joshwoo70> i liked the message PR...
what i really want
<Joshwoo70> i liked the message PR...
what i really wantL55[04:15:32] <Joshwoo70> oh liach asked for a
review CJ for that.. and a note it is a draft
<Joshwoo70> oh liach asked for a
review CJ for that.. and a note it is a draftL56[04:15:59] <Joshwoo70> also for recipe... i
think
<Joshwoo70> also for recipe... i
thinkL57[04:16:06] <Joshwoo70> R X R
<Joshwoo70> R X RL58[04:16:11] <Joshwoo70> R N R
<Joshwoo70> R N RL59[04:16:18] <Joshwoo70> R X R
<Joshwoo70> R X RL60[04:16:37] <Joshwoo70> where R is a rail N js a
noteblock and X is a blank space
<Joshwoo70> where R is a rail N js a
noteblock and X is a blank spaceL61[04:16:43] <Joshwoo70> where R is a rail N is a
noteblock and X is a blank space
<Joshwoo70> where R is a rail N is a
noteblock and X is a blank spaceL62[04:17:16] <bballboy2002> thats 1.7.10 style,
1.10.2 uses track kits, completely different recipes
<bballboy2002> thats 1.7.10 style,
1.10.2 uses track kits, completely different recipesL63[04:17:24] <Joshwoo70> welp
<Joshwoo70> welpL64[04:17:48] <Joshwoo70> also for track kit .. i
think just use a noteblock.
<Joshwoo70> also for track kit .. i
think just use a noteblock.L65[04:18:02] <Joshwoo70> now bball? XD
<Joshwoo70> now bball? XDL66[04:21:08] <CovertJaguar> Looks functional, some
concerns about multiple messages being sent if two carts on the
track at the same time, but that is unlikely to happen often and
the message input is clunky
<CovertJaguar> Looks functional, some
concerns about multiple messages being sent if two carts on the
track at the same time, but that is unlikely to happen often and
the message input is clunkyL67[04:21:31] <CovertJaguar> Other than that
it's missing the graphics
<CovertJaguar> Other than that
it's missing the graphicsL68[04:21:56] <Joshwoo70> and recipe
<Joshwoo70> and recipeL69[04:22:56] <Joshwoo70> also for graphics..
probably something along the line of the ticket track with a note
block or smth.
<Joshwoo70> also for graphics..
probably something along the line of the ticket track with a note
block or smth.L70[04:23:26] <CovertJaguar> Anyway I'm
supposed to be asleep so I'm muting you guys now ;)
<CovertJaguar> Anyway I'm
supposed to be asleep so I'm muting you guys now ;)L71[04:24:43] <Joshwoo70> also @CovertJaguar yous
should try appveyor
<Joshwoo70> also @CovertJaguar yous
should try appveyorL72[04:24:50] <Joshwoo70> it can build MC
projects
<Joshwoo70> it can build MC
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L78[04:51:31] <Joshwoo70> i sent the flyid concrete
comment to Blusunrize...
<Joshwoo70> i sent the flyid concrete
comment to Blusunrize...L80[04:51:38] <Joshwoo70> i sent the fluid concrete
comment to Blusunrize...
<Joshwoo70> i sent the fluid concrete
comment to Blusunrize...L81[05:17:43] ⇦
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L91[08:43:13] <Mimiru> copying 882 GB at
1.6 KB/s
L92[08:43:14] <Mimiru> woo
L93[08:45:01] <bballboy2002> that will (no joke)
take 17.5 years
<bballboy2002> that will (no joke)
take 17.5 yearsL94[08:45:19] <bballboy2002> i even double
checked
<bballboy2002> i even double
checkedL95[09:30:40] <daniel> @bballboy2002:
I'm sure it'll either take a lot longer because of
unforeseen interuptions, or a lot shorter because the data
isn't relevant anymore and the copy operation is
canceled
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L98[10:13:10] <Hanakocz> or shorter because it will
copy large files way faster
<Hanakocz> or shorter because it will
copy large files way fasterL99[10:34:09] <daniel> well, that's
what tar is for ;)
L100[10:34:53] <liach>
haha
<liach>
hahaL101[10:48:37] <liach>
@joshwoo70 we don't need to distribute railcraft jars
<liach>
@joshwoo70 we don't need to distribute railcraft jarsL102[10:52:55] <liach>
@CovertJaguar onminecartpass is called every tick in fact
<liach>
@CovertJaguar onminecartpass is called every tick in factL103[11:26:15]
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L104[11:29:31] <CovertJaguar> Yes, I know.
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L107[11:44:11] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#14 (messenger-track-kit - 2eb73c6 :
CovertJaguar): The build passed.
L108[11:44:11] <travis-ci> Change view :
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L112[11:53:54] <liach>
@CovertJaguar Can you add rc api to forestry?
<liach>
@CovertJaguar Can you add rc api to forestry?L113[12:13:31]
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L114[12:17:43] <CovertJaguar> I'm going to go
with no until you tell me why that is a good thing. At best it
would probably break the mod load order.
<CovertJaguar> I'm going to go
with no until you tell me why that is a good thing. At best it
would probably break the mod load order.L115[12:26:45]
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L116[12:26:45] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#16 (messenger-track-kit - 9dd44c9 : liach):
The build passed.
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L120[12:49:25] <liach>
for item transfer or so
<liach>
for item transfer or soL121[12:53:28] <cloakable> holy crap
switch track?
L122[12:54:19] <liach>
?
<liach>
?L123[12:55:10] <cloakable> looking at
commit messages
L124[12:56:22] <vedrit> I'm curious about
something...Why isn't there a community resource pack for
things like steel, copper and steam? Items that are re-created in
nearly every tech mod?
<vedrit> I'm curious about
something...Why isn't there a community resource pack for
things like steel, copper and steam? Items that are re-created in
nearly every tech mod?L125[12:56:25] <vedrit> I'm curious about
something...Why isn't there a community resource pack for
things like steel, copper and steam? Items that are re-created in
nearly every tech mod
<vedrit> I'm curious about
something...Why isn't there a community resource pack for
things like steel, copper and steam? Items that are re-created in
nearly every tech modL126[12:56:59] <Natesky9> iirc, resource packs use
the item name, and all the different mods use their own name
<Natesky9> iirc, resource packs use
the item name, and all the different mods use their own nameL127[12:57:01] <bballboy2002> because copyright laws
preventing them from having the same default textures i guess
<bballboy2002> because copyright laws
preventing them from having the same default textures i guessL128[12:57:20] <vedrit> copyright laws?
<vedrit> copyright laws?L129[12:57:39] <MrConductor> *
bballboy2002 facepalms
L130[13:00:41] <vedrit> Maybe we're not talking
about the same sort of resource pack. I'm talking about a pack
that is a mod, that other mods reference to for the common
items
<vedrit> Maybe we're not talking
about the same sort of resource pack. I'm talking about a pack
that is a mod, that other mods reference to for the common
itemsL131[13:00:45] <vedrit> A dependency
<vedrit> A dependencyL132[13:00:49] <Natesky9> OH
<Natesky9> OHL133[13:00:57] <bballboy2002> aha
<bballboy2002> ahaL134[13:01:00] <bballboy2002> that clears it up
<bballboy2002> that clears it upL135[13:01:02] <liach>
eh
<liach>
ehL136[13:01:09] <bballboy2002> no idea why nobodys
done that yet
<bballboy2002> no idea why nobodys
done that yetL137[13:01:12] <Natesky9> Gregtech did something
where it would convert items to a standard default
<Natesky9> Gregtech did something
where it would convert items to a standard defaultL138[13:02:05] <vedrit> Hmm...What language are mods
made in? I may need to look into this
<vedrit> Hmm...What language are mods
made in? I may need to look into thisL139[13:02:13] <Natesky9> Java
<Natesky9> JavaL140[13:02:26] <Natesky9> 2 sugar, no cream
<Natesky9> 2 sugar, no creamL141[13:03:00] <vedrit> Oh, that's good.
I'm pretty comfortable with C# which is very similar to Java.
I can probably make this happen
<vedrit> Oh, that's good.
I'm pretty comfortable with C# which is very similar to Java.
I can probably make this happenL142[13:08:05] <MCenderdragon> mezz and
somepoeple allready did a thing like that
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L144[13:13:55] <liach>
@vedrit Don't bring C# code style into java, that would be
horrible
<liach>
@vedrit Don't bring C# code style into java, that would be
horribleL145[13:14:43] <MCenderdragon> it already
happen, lamda thingy in java 8
L146[13:14:50] <MCenderdragon>
*happend
L147[13:15:50] <vedrit> You should be happy. Lambda
experssions are awesome
<vedrit> You should be happy. Lambda
experssions are awesomeL148[13:16:24] <MCenderdragon> no :P the
bytecode from it looks horible and I am not shure if they are
faster than normal code
L149[13:17:53] <MCenderdragon> but i think
its just like the thing from for( var : iterable) this is also
strange but, well
L150[13:23:25] <liach>
@vedrit I mean how you name packages and methods. C# guys start
with uppercase while java starts with lower case
<liach>
@vedrit I mean how you name packages and methods. C# guys start
with uppercase while java starts with lower caseL151[13:23:41] <vedrit> Oh, that's just naming
conventions
<vedrit> Oh, that's just naming
conventionsL152[13:24:52] <vedrit> My variables usually start
with lowercase and only use uppercase for word separation
<vedrit> My variables usually start
with lowercase and only use uppercase for word separationL153[13:26:22] <Kodos>
That's called camel casing
<Kodos>
That's called camel casingL154[13:28:36] <Natesky9> snake_case_hisssss
<Natesky9> snake_case_hisssssL155[13:28:43] <Natesky9> *snake_case_hisssss*
<Natesky9> *snake_case_hisssss*L156[13:30:06] <Natesky9> **Tunnel snakes
RULE**
<Natesky9> **Tunnel snakes
RULE**L157[13:30:47] <vedrit> Yeah, CamelCase. I'm
pretty sure there's a convention that specifically defines the
first character as being lowercase...
<vedrit> Yeah, CamelCase. I'm
pretty sure there's a convention that specifically defines the
first character as being lowercase...L158[13:32:18] <Hawk777> Often just called
lowerCamel or UpperCamel, though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case has a LOT
of names for different variants.
L159[13:32:46] <vedrit> AH
<vedrit> AHL160[13:32:48] <vedrit> Ah
<vedrit> AhL161[13:33:22] <vedrit> Interesting note, MSDN
defines CamelCase as having the first character in lowercase
<vedrit> Interesting note, MSDN
defines CamelCase as having the first character in lowercaseL162[13:34:08] <vedrit> Hah. Then it gives examples
that defy that definition
<vedrit> Hah. Then it gives examples
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L165[13:38:24] <vedrit> MCenderdragon: Oracle did
some research into the performance of lambda vs anonymous. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/jvmls2013kuksen-2014088.pdf
<vedrit> MCenderdragon: Oracle did
some research into the performance of lambda vs anonymous. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/jvmls2013kuksen-2014088.pdfL166[13:38:51] <vedrit> I don't know what the
practical difference between hot and cold is, but the time
difference is significant.
<vedrit> I don't know what the
practical difference between hot and cold is, but the time
difference is significant.L167[13:42:25] <Natesky9> I'm a fan of CamelCase
myself
<Natesky9> I'm a fan of CamelCase
myselfL168[13:43:45] <vedrit> It's just
intuitive
<vedrit> It's just
intuitiveL169[13:44:09] <Natesky9> CamelCase for functions,
snake_case for variables
<Natesky9> CamelCase for functions,
snake_case for variablesL170[13:44:13] ⇦
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L173[13:45:20] <MCenderdragon> @vedrit:
ohh interesting
L174[13:47:11] <vedrit> @Natesky9 I use Unity Engine
a lot, and using snake_case for variables isn't represented so
well in the editor. It'll recognize CamelCase and separate the
words, but it just kind of leaves snake_case alone
<vedrit> @Natesky9 I use Unity Engine
a lot, and using snake_case for variables isn't represented so
well in the editor. It'll recognize CamelCase and separate the
words, but it just kind of leaves snake_case aloneL175[13:48:49] <vedrit> Though that does get
problematic if I'm using an acronym in the variable name, like
someNPC gets turned into Some N P C in the editor
<vedrit> Though that does get
problematic if I'm using an acronym in the variable name, like
someNPC gets turned into Some N P C in the editorL176[13:51:45] <Natesky9> That could be
annoying
<Natesky9> That could be
annoyingL177[13:51:55]
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L178[13:53:29] <vedrit> Indeed.
<vedrit> Indeed.L179[13:56:17] ⇦
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L182[14:16:25] <liach>
@CovertJaguar What do you use to create pngs?
<liach>
@CovertJaguar What do you use to create pngs?L183[14:16:42] <liach>
I cannot fucking find a normal software for it!
<liach>
I cannot fucking find a normal software for it!L184[14:18:50] <Natesky9> ms paint?
<Natesky9> ms paint?L185[14:22:07] <GeneralCamo> @liach What are you
trying to do?
<GeneralCamo> @liach What are you
trying to do?L186[14:22:14] <GeneralCamo> @Natesky9 No, just
no
<GeneralCamo> @Natesky9 No, just
noL187[14:22:27] <liach>
Create a picture for messenger kit
<liach>
Create a picture for messenger kitL188[14:22:31] <Natesky9> Hey, if it works, it
works
<Natesky9> Hey, if it works, it
worksL189[14:22:48] <GeneralCamo> @liach GIMP, Adobe
Photoshop are good contenders
<GeneralCamo> @liach GIMP, Adobe
Photoshop are good contendersL190[14:22:51] <liach>
@Natesky9 MS paint does not support transparency, that is the
issue
<liach>
@Natesky9 MS paint does not support transparency, that is the
issueL191[14:22:59] <liach>
Photoshop is very expensive
<liach>
Photoshop is very expensiveL192[14:23:10] <GeneralCamo> Well then use
GIMPe
<GeneralCamo> Well then use
GIMPeL193[14:23:10] <bballboy2002> GIMP is free, I use it
sometimes
<bballboy2002> GIMP is free, I use it
sometimesL194[14:23:12] <GeneralCamo> Well then use GIMP
<GeneralCamo> Well then use GIMPL195[14:23:22] <liach>
yay GIMP thanks
<liach>
yay GIMP thanksL196[14:23:24] <GeneralCamo> Paint.net is a good
option too since this is simple stuff
<GeneralCamo> Paint.net is a good
option too since this is simple stuffL197[14:25:19] <Natesky9> Oh right,
transparency
<Natesky9> Oh right,
transparencyL198[14:27:11] <GeneralCamo> My copy of IntelliJ IDEA
isn't starting for some reason
<GeneralCamo> My copy of IntelliJ IDEA
isn't starting for some reasonL199[14:27:13] <GeneralCamo> ...brilliant
<GeneralCamo> ...brilliantL200[14:27:57] <Kodos>
Photoshop was free at one point. I managed to get in while the
getting was good
<Kodos>
Photoshop was free at one point. I managed to get in while the
getting was goodL201[14:36:16] <Abculatter_2> Do boilers
consume more fuel at low heat or less fuel at low heat?
L202[14:37:08] <Xilandro> IIRC they become
more efficient the higher the temp
L203[14:37:24] <Abculatter_2> Damnit
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fuel regardless
<Natesky9> iirc, they use the same
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L208[14:42:29] <Natesky9> just at higher heat, they
produce more steam
<Natesky9> just at higher heat, they
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L215[14:52:46] <GeneralCamo> ^
<GeneralCamo> ^L216[14:54:44] <Abculatter_2> Well, I just
finished a tree farm that can feed 20 coke ovens, and all that
charcoal is feeding into a 36-tank boiler
L217[14:54:49] <Abculatter_2> So I guess
we'll see
L218[14:55:15] <GeneralCamo> Low Pressure boilers
take less fuel to run than High Pressure boilers however
<GeneralCamo> Low Pressure boilers
take less fuel to run than High Pressure boilers howeverL219[14:55:25] <Abculatter_2> I know
L220[14:55:26] <GeneralCamo> Though High Pressure
boilers are more space efficient and produce steam faster
<GeneralCamo> Though High Pressure
boilers are more space efficient and produce steam fasterL221[14:55:38] <GeneralCamo> ...I'm kind-of
hoping to get that changed a bit
<GeneralCamo> ...I'm kind-of
hoping to get that changed a bitL222[14:55:39] <Abculatter_2> High
pressure is a little more then twice
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L224[14:55:51] <Abculatter_2> Why
Camo?
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L227[14:56:15] <GeneralCamo> It isn't exactly
very accurate to real life first off. Also I don't like that
the difference between the two is a pure numbers game
<GeneralCamo> It isn't exactly
very accurate to real life first off. Also I don't like that
the difference between the two is a pure numbers gameL228[14:56:35] <GeneralCamo> It could be so much more
than that
<GeneralCamo> It could be so much more
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L232[14:57:39] <Abculatter_2> What do you
want it to be changed to?
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L235[15:00:04] <GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the Low Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 C
<GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the Low Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 CL236[15:00:10] <GeneralCamo> Or something like
that
<GeneralCamo> Or something like
thatL237[15:00:43] <Natesky9> Why to the low pressure
boiler?
<Natesky9> Why to the low pressure
boiler?L238[15:01:08] <GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the High Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 C
<GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the High Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 CL239[15:01:11] <Natesky9> Surely high pressure,
superheated steam would be made in the, uh, high pressure
boiler?
<Natesky9> Surely high pressure,
superheated steam would be made in the, uh, high pressure
boiler?L240[15:01:17] <GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the High Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 C
<GeneralCamo> Well definitely add
superheated steam produced by the High Pressure Boiler after it
heats up to 212 CL241[15:01:22] <GeneralCamo> Yep that was a
mistake
<GeneralCamo> Yep that was a
mistakeL242[15:01:25] <GeneralCamo> Typo
<GeneralCamo> TypoL243[15:01:27] <GeneralCamo> High Pressure
<GeneralCamo> High PressureL244[15:01:44] <Abculatter_2> And how
would the superheated steam be any different from normal
steam?
L245[15:01:59] <Natesky9> This is GeneralCamo's
idea
<Natesky9> This is GeneralCamo's
ideaL246[15:02:46] <GeneralCamo> Abculatter: Oh so many
ways
<GeneralCamo> Abculatter: Oh so many
waysL247[15:02:47] <Natesky9> Ic2 allows for superheated
steam to be re-used as normal steam
<Natesky9> Ic2 allows for superheated
steam to be re-used as normal steamL248[15:03:08] <Natesky9> As for Railcraft...
well
<Natesky9> As for Railcraft...
wellL249[15:03:12] <Abculatter_2> I know how
IC2 does it
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L251[15:03:24] <Abculatter_2> I'm
asking him how he wants it implemented
L252[15:03:27] <Natesky9> (I know you do)
<Natesky9> (I know you do)L253[15:03:56] <Abculatter_2> Also, yaaay
steeeam!
L254[15:03:58] <Abculatter_2> Powah!
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L256[15:04:41] <GeneralCamo> Right now the
differences aren't too much, but later on when ore processing,
the Chem Lab, and other such things are implemented it will
definitely be different. Right now, Superheated Steam would be more
efficient in Turbines and Engines, while regular Steam can either
be put to use in Steam Ovens or put into a Condenser to create
water for a closed loop system.
<GeneralCamo> Right now the
differences aren't too much, but later on when ore processing,
the Chem Lab, and other such things are implemented it will
definitely be different. Right now, Superheated Steam would be more
efficient in Turbines and Engines, while regular Steam can either
be put to use in Steam Ovens or put into a Condenser to create
water for a closed loop system.L257[15:04:56] <Natesky9> Honestly, I think that
Railcraft needs short distance steam pipes
<Natesky9> Honestly, I think that
Railcraft needs short distance steam pipesL258[15:05:01] <Natesky9> Factorio style,
maybe?
<Natesky9> Factorio style,
maybe?L259[15:05:18] <GeneralCamo> (Or regular steam can be
put into Turbines, but expect to repair it much more since the
water droplets would damage the turbine)
<GeneralCamo> (Or regular steam can be
put into Turbines, but expect to repair it much more since the
water droplets would damage the turbine)L260[15:05:32] <Abculatter_2> I already
suggested steam pipes
L261[15:05:37] <GeneralCamo> (And you wouldn't
get the volume multiplication that High Pressure steam has)
<GeneralCamo> (And you wouldn't
get the volume multiplication that High Pressure steam has)L262[15:05:41] <Abculatter_2> CJ said
he'll probably do it eventually
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L264[15:07:12] <GeneralCamo> I also put into my big
locomotive mega post different High Pressure and Low Pressure
locomotives
<GeneralCamo> I also put into my big
locomotive mega post different High Pressure and Low Pressure
locomotivesL265[15:07:55] <GeneralCamo> High Pressure being more
efficient with fuel, but requiring a much longer startup time. Low
Pressure is not as efficient, but starts up exactly the same way
the existing ones start up, making it useful for Shunting
Locomotives
<GeneralCamo> High Pressure being more
efficient with fuel, but requiring a much longer startup time. Low
Pressure is not as efficient, but starts up exactly the same way
the existing ones start up, making it useful for Shunting
LocomotivesL266[15:07:58] <Xilandro> I like the
aesthetic of IE Fluid pipes and FSP pipes
L267[15:08:05] <Xilandro> But I know CJ
wants to do special pipes for steam
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L269[15:11:40] <GeneralCamo> Steel Pipes
<GeneralCamo> Steel PipesL270[15:13:52] <Natesky9> Oh, there could be so many
cool builds if the pipes look amazing
<Natesky9> Oh, there could be so many
cool builds if the pipes look amazingL271[15:14:24] <Xilandro> Maybe Iron Pipes
for LP and Steel Pipes for HP?
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L273[15:15:12] <Natesky9> Honestly, I don't see
why there would be a difference
<Natesky9> Honestly, I don't see
why there would be a differenceL274[15:15:16] <Natesky9> besides gating
<Natesky9> besides gatingL275[15:16:04] <Kodos>
It's more of 'Why would I waste steel on LP pipes
<Kodos>
It's more of 'Why would I waste steel on LP pipesL276[15:16:35] <Natesky9> I just wouldn't make
iron pipes
<Natesky9> I just wouldn't make
iron pipesL277[15:17:13] <Natesky9> I know that it's a
tier below, and is an obvious choice, but honestly
<Natesky9> I know that it's a
tier below, and is an obvious choice, but honestlyL278[15:17:18] <Natesky9> it just adds fluff
<Natesky9> it just adds fluffL279[15:17:27] <Kodos>
I'm a huge aesthetics whore, and presumably they would look
different
<Kodos>
I'm a huge aesthetics whore, and presumably they would look
differentL280[15:17:37] <Kodos>
Just as HP boilers are darker than LP IIRC
<Kodos>
Just as HP boilers are darker than LP IIRCL281[15:17:40]
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Since they're made with Steel
<Kodos>
Since they're made with SteelL283[15:17:52] <Natesky9> Haha
<Natesky9> HahaL284[15:18:20] <Natesky9> But yeah, steel pipes would
be amazing
<Natesky9> But yeah, steel pipes would
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L287[15:19:35] <Natesky9> if they don't have a
window, there should be a pipe that does, something that you can
see the contents
<Natesky9> if they don't have a
window, there should be a pipe that does, something that you can
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L289[15:20:29] <Kodos>
Maybe have it automatically do a window every 3rd block, based on
world location to make it easier to code
<Kodos>
Maybe have it automatically do a window every 3rd block, based on
world location to make it easier to codeL290[15:20:42] <Kodos>
Sort of how Chisel does their multiblock textures
<Kodos>
Sort of how Chisel does their multiblock texturesL291[15:20:47] <Natesky9> That's a good
idea
<Natesky9> That's a good
ideaL292[15:21:05] <Natesky9> however, in short
distances, if you're unlucky, you won't get a
window
<Natesky9> however, in short
distances, if you're unlucky, you won't get a
windowL293[15:21:17] <Kodos>
Offset changing with the crowbar ;-D
<Kodos>
Offset changing with the crowbar ;-DL294[15:21:41] <Natesky9> or, you could just toggle
with the crowbar?
<Natesky9> or, you could just toggle
with the crowbar?L295[15:22:03] <Natesky9> That would allow pipes to
be changed, and it would allow larger, connected windows
<Natesky9> That would allow pipes to
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L297[15:22:21] <Natesky9> also would allow for pipe
connecting/disconnecting
<Natesky9> also would allow for pipe
connecting/disconnectingL298[15:22:55] <Kodos>
Hm, could do
<Kodos>
Hm, could doL299[15:29:51] ⇦
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L302[16:00:05] <Natesky9> I probably gave a terrible
example on my suggestion
<Natesky9> I probably gave a terrible
example on my suggestionL303[16:00:19] <liach>
Anyone mind taking a look at my new track kit pull?
<liach>
Anyone mind taking a look at my new track kit pull?L305[16:02:23] <Natesky9> Is this message going to be
printed to the console, or will it be using the new text
mechanic?
<Natesky9> Is this message going to be
printed to the console, or will it be using the new text
mechanic?L306[16:03:11]
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L307[16:03:11] <travis-ci>
CovertJaguar/Railcraft#18 (messenger-track-kit - 6176b2b : liach):
The build passed.
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L311[16:06:29] <liach>
It will be sent to players
<liach>
It will be sent to playersL312[16:06:47] <liach>
@Natesky9 It can contain command links, etc and color
<liach>
@Natesky9 It can contain command links, etc and colorL313[16:06:59] <liach>
Like messages on minigame servers
<liach>
Like messages on minigame serversL314[16:07:48] <Natesky9> So it does do the title
text, and not just tellraw?
<Natesky9> So it does do the title
text, and not just tellraw?L315[16:08:12] <Natesky9> like so
<Natesky9> like soL316[16:08:13] <Natesky9> draw_debug_entity_list =
true
<Natesky9> draw_debug_entity_list =
trueL317[16:08:25] <Natesky9> shit
<Natesky9> shitL319[16:11:44] <Kodos>
Nate, give me the command you did to do that
<Kodos>
Nate, give me the command you did to do thatL320[16:11:50] <Kodos>
I've been trying to get title to work for ages
<Kodos>
I've been trying to get title to work for agesL322[16:13:03] <Natesky9> /title Natesky9 title
{text:"This is a
title",bold:true,italic:true,color:red}
<Natesky9> /title Natesky9 title
{text:"This is a
title",bold:true,italic:true,color:red}L323[16:13:39] <Xilandro> Malformed JSON,
again
L324[16:13:40] <liach>
Yes it can
<liach>
Yes it canL325[16:13:41] <Xilandro> >.>
L326[16:13:47] <liach>
But now it can only be configured from nbt
<liach>
But now it can only be configured from nbtL327[16:13:53] <liach>
I will add commands soon
<liach>
I will add commands soonL328[16:14:57] <Natesky9> I think it should be added
as just
<Natesky9> I think it should be added
as justL329[16:15:03] <Natesky9> `/title <player>
subtitle <SubtitleText>`
<Natesky9> `/title <player>
subtitle <SubtitleText>`L330[16:15:21] <Natesky9> That way the message pops
up below the cursor
<Natesky9> That way the message pops
up below the cursorL331[16:16:26] <Natesky9> You can even do a radius
using
<Natesky9> You can even do a radius
usingL332[16:16:35] <Natesky9> @p[x,y,z,r]
<Natesky9> @p[x,y,z,r]L333[16:16:43] <Natesky9> `@p[x,y,z,r]`
<Natesky9> `@p[x,y,z,r]`L334[16:17:42] <Natesky9> Here's a neat tool for
it as well
<Natesky9> Here's a neat tool for
it as wellL337[16:21:16]
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CovertJaguar/Railcraft#20 (messenger-track-kit - 30fa4eb : liach):
The build passed.
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L342[16:21:41] <Xilandro> Natesky,
literally the command you gave me is malformed JSON
L343[16:21:47] <Xilandro> So if it works
for you, something's screwy with my game
L344[16:21:54] <Natesky9> I dunno
<Natesky9> I dunnoL345[16:22:05] <Natesky9> I just grabbed it from a
website
<Natesky9> I just grabbed it from a
websiteL346[16:23:30] *
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L347[16:25:33] <Natesky9> Haha, one commit just to
fancify the icon?
<Natesky9> Haha, one commit just to
fancify the icon?L348[16:26:28]
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L355[17:16:03] <Xilandro> How far apart
should I do HS Boosters to maintain a solid speed on a speed
rail
L356[17:16:07] <Xilandro> And how
many
L357[17:16:20] <Xilandro> Thus far,
I'm doing 8-long boosters and transitions
L358[17:16:56] <Natesky9> iirc, you only need
transition tracks, 4 to get up to speed, 4 to slow down. Then just
HS track between
<Natesky9> iirc, you only need
transition tracks, 4 to get up to speed, 4 to slow down. Then just
HS track betweenL359[17:18:06] <Xilandro> Okay, now to do
turnaround bits
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L361[17:18:54] <Xilandro> I just do a
powered HS facing the oncoming direction for slowdown, right?
L362[17:19:01] <Natesky9> Eeyup
<Natesky9> EeyupL363[17:19:02] <Xilandro> To make a two
way line
L364[17:19:03] <Xilandro> Okay
L365[17:19:06] <Xilandro> ty
L366[17:20:39] <Xilandro> Apparently HS
Buffer Stops aren't at hing
L367[17:20:48] <Xilandro> I placed a kit
on one, and it says invalid track
L368[17:21:20] <Natesky9> Well
<Natesky9> WellL369[17:21:22] <Natesky9> I mean
<Natesky9> I meanL370[17:21:33] <Natesky9> They wouldn't make
much sense now
<Natesky9> They wouldn't make
much sense nowL371[17:21:36] <Natesky9> would they?
<Natesky9> would they?L372[17:23:02] <Xilandro> Err hm
L373[17:23:08] <Xilandro> Then I suppose
I'll only need to use HS track on the HS bits
L374[17:23:11] <Xilandro> Alrighty
L375[17:23:35] <Xilandro> Throttle tracks
are weird
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L378[18:11:53] <Natesky9> I'm actually curious
as to how you prevent High speed tracks from crashing
<Natesky9> I'm actually curious
as to how you prevent High speed tracks from crashingL379[18:12:07] <Xilandro> What do you
mean?
L380[18:12:09] <Natesky9> a 45-degree turn,
isn't that still too much?
<Natesky9> a 45-degree turn,
isn't that still too much?L381[18:12:15] <Xilandro> Yes
L382[18:12:20] <Xilandro> You transition
before any turns
L383[18:12:27] <Natesky9> when going on a turn, you
have to transition?
<Natesky9> when going on a turn, you
have to transition?L384[18:12:31] <Xilandro> Yes
L385[18:12:36] <Natesky9> wow
<Natesky9> wowL386[18:12:40] <Xilandro> Which is why you
really only HS long straight stretches
L387[18:13:01] <Xilandro> If you want
turn-safe speed, Reinforced isn't bad
L388[18:13:04] <Xilandro> 125%
L389[18:13:09] <Natesky9> That, I actually have a
suggestion about
<Natesky9> That, I actually have a
suggestion aboutL390[18:13:26] <Xilandro> I was thinking
of something as well, but what's yours first
L391[18:13:30] <Natesky9> because there are some
points that you would want gentle turns
<Natesky9> because there are some
points that you would want gentle turnsL392[18:13:57] <Natesky9> well, is this a pure
vanilla mechanic, derailing?
<Natesky9> well, is this a pure
vanilla mechanic, derailing?L393[18:14:03] <Natesky9> I know they tinkered around
with it
<Natesky9> I know they tinkered around
with itL394[18:14:09] <Natesky9> and then promptly removed
it
<Natesky9> and then promptly removed
itL395[18:18:27] <Xilandro> No, it's RC
iirc
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L397[18:43:17] <vedrit> It'd be cool to have
wider, gentler turns, but I don't know how that'd
word
<vedrit> It'd be cool to have
wider, gentler turns, but I don't know how that'd
wordL398[18:43:19] <vedrit> It'd be cool to have
wider, gentler turns, but I don't know how that'd
work
<vedrit> It'd be cool to have
wider, gentler turns, but I don't know how that'd
workL399[18:56:52] <Natesky9> vector angle
comparison
<Natesky9> vector angle
comparisonL400[18:58:33] <Natesky9> store the last n vectors,
average them, and compare them to the previous vector average
<Natesky9> store the last n vectors,
average them, and compare them to the previous vector averageL401[18:58:48] <Natesky9> if the difference is higher
than the derailment threshold, well, it derails
<Natesky9> if the difference is higher
than the derailment threshold, well, it derailsL402[18:59:10] <Natesky9> That would allow you
smooth, gradual turns
<Natesky9> That would allow you
smooth, gradual turnsL403[19:00:41] <liach>
@Natesky9 I'd record motion in cart's data and do
checks
<liach>
@Natesky9 I'd record motion in cart's data and do
checksL404[19:00:59] <liach>
And yes, using vectors
<liach>
And yes, using vectorsL405[19:01:31] <Natesky9> I don't know
Java
<Natesky9> I don't know
JavaL406[19:01:34] <Natesky9> I code in Game maker
<Natesky9> I code in Game makerL407[19:01:37] <Natesky9> give me a break
<Natesky9> give me a breakL409[19:35:13]
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L422[20:30:46] <GeneralCamo> Trying to get a handle
on IntelliJ
<GeneralCamo> Trying to get a handle
on IntelliJL423[20:30:58] <GeneralCamo> It's been way too
long since I've done Java coding
<GeneralCamo> It's been way too
long since I've done Java codingL424[20:31:32] <GeneralCamo> @liach How experienced
are you with IntelliJ? I notice you are playing it
<GeneralCamo> @liach How experienced
are you with IntelliJ? I notice you are playing itL426[20:35:20] <GeneralCamo> Alright, this seems
simple enough to tackle
<GeneralCamo> Alright, this seems
simple enough to tackleL427[20:35:30] <GeneralCamo> A bit of xu2
compatibility
<GeneralCamo> A bit of xu2
compatibilityL428[21:16:37] <Xilandro> Grrr
L429[21:16:44] <GeneralCamo> Grrr?
<GeneralCamo> Grrr?L430[21:16:47] <Xilandro> Trying to use
NuclearControl2 to monitor steam in my boiler
L431[21:16:52] <Xilandro> But all it is
grabbing is the water tank
L432[21:27:11] <Natesky9> Output to a steel
tank
<Natesky9> Output to a steel
tankL433[21:27:33] <Natesky9> Steam boilers output
automatically if they are over half capacity anyway
<Natesky9> Steam boilers output
automatically if they are over half capacity anywayL434[21:50:08] <liach>
@GeneralCamo Intellij is fantastic, way better than eclipse
<liach>
@GeneralCamo Intellij is fantastic, way better than eclipseL435[21:51:03] <GeneralCamo> Yeah, using it now
<GeneralCamo> Yeah, using it nowL436[21:51:12] <GeneralCamo> Trying to figure out how
to get things setup
<GeneralCamo> Trying to figure out how
to get things setupL437[21:53:51] <GeneralCamo> Well I think I just
finished the setup process
<GeneralCamo> Well I think I just
finished the setup processL438[21:54:32] <GeneralCamo> Now to add XU2's
Red Coal
<GeneralCamo> Now to add XU2's
Red CoalL439[21:57:29] <GeneralCamo> ...as soon as dependency
resolution is complete
<GeneralCamo> ...as soon as dependency
resolution is completeL440[22:03:27] <Natesky9> I think I worked in Eclipse
once, maybe
<Natesky9> I think I worked in Eclipse
once, maybeL441[22:03:38] <Natesky9> Was super unfamilliar with
the functions/syntax
<Natesky9> Was super unfamilliar with
the functions/syntaxL442[22:05:02] <liach>
Eclipse is super laggy and stupid
<liach>
Eclipse is super laggy and stupidL443[22:08:11] <GeneralCamo> I see two ways to do
this
<GeneralCamo> I see two ways to do
thisL444[22:08:49] <GeneralCamo> Either A: I make a new
module for ExtraUtilities 2 integration (wasteful IMO, but if
that's the standard then I'll use it)
<GeneralCamo> Either A: I make a new
module for ExtraUtilities 2 integration (wasteful IMO, but if
that's the standard then I'll use it)L445[22:08:49] <GeneralCamo> B: I just use a
<GeneralCamo> B: I just use aL446[22:08:49] <GeneralCamo> if
(mod.xu2.isloaded())
<GeneralCamo> if
(mod.xu2.isloaded())L447[22:08:49] <GeneralCamo> in the fuel registry for
the blast furnace
<GeneralCamo> in the fuel registry for
the blast furnaceL448[22:10:28] <GeneralCamo> Both would work, though
I need to find out the internal name of the fuel in question (XU2
isn't open source from what I see)
<GeneralCamo> Both would work, though
I need to find out the internal name of the fuel in question (XU2
isn't open source from what I see)L449[22:11:27] <GeneralCamo> OH HAHAHAHAHA
<GeneralCamo> OH HAHAHAHAHAL450[22:11:39] <GeneralCamo> RWTEMA YOU ARE
INTERESTING
<GeneralCamo> RWTEMA YOU ARE
INTERESTINGL451[22:11:51] <GeneralCamo> ...
<GeneralCamo> ...L452[22:13:03] <GeneralCamo> Either A: I make a new
module for ExtraUtilities 2 integration (wasteful IMO, but if
that's the standard then I'll use it)
<GeneralCamo> Either A: I make a new
module for ExtraUtilities 2 integration (wasteful IMO, but if
that's the standard then I'll use it)L453[22:13:03] <GeneralCamo> B: I just use a
<GeneralCamo> B: I just use aL454[22:13:03] <GeneralCamo> if
(mod.extrautils2.isloaded())
<GeneralCamo> if
(mod.extrautils2.isloaded())L455[22:13:04] <GeneralCamo> in the fuel registry for
the blast furnace
<GeneralCamo> in the fuel registry for
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L457[22:23:05] <liach>
Why is CJ not really available now
<liach>
Why is CJ not really available nowL458[22:30:22] <GeneralCamo> Alright, so Red Coal is
listed as "xu2.ingredients"
<GeneralCamo> Alright, so Red Coal is
listed as "xu2.ingredients"L459[22:30:31] <GeneralCamo> Along with EVERY SINGLE
OTHER MATERIAL IN XU2
<GeneralCamo> Along with EVERY SINGLE
OTHER MATERIAL IN XU2L460[22:30:46] <Xilandro> No
metadata?
L461[22:30:50] <Xilandro> Or is it all
NBT
L462[22:30:53] <GeneralCamo> Trying to find it
<GeneralCamo> Trying to find itL463[22:31:38] <GeneralCamo> Ahh, #4160/4
<GeneralCamo> Ahh, #4160/4L464[22:31:44] <GeneralCamo> I'm guessing the
"4" is Meta Data
<GeneralCamo> I'm guessing the
"4" is Meta DataL465[22:32:17] ⇦
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L466[22:32:25] <GeneralCamo> Thankfully not NBT, if
he had asked for Biome Selector support though he would have been
politely declined since that is 100% meta
<GeneralCamo> Thankfully not NBT, if
he had asked for Biome Selector support though he would have been
politely declined since that is 100% metaL467[22:35:20] <GeneralCamo> I can't figure out
how Extra Utilities registers its items though
<GeneralCamo> I can't figure out
how Extra Utilities registers its items thoughL468[22:35:31] <GeneralCamo> I could use a generic
enum or itemstack, but I'm not sure if that would work
<GeneralCamo> I could use a generic
enum or itemstack, but I'm not sure if that would workL469[22:37:55]
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L470[22:45:06] <liach>
@GeneralCamo Find the registry name of xu2.ingredients
<liach>
@GeneralCamo Find the registry name of xu2.ingredientsL471[22:48:50] <GeneralCamo> Doing that now
<GeneralCamo> Doing that nowL472[22:51:26] <GeneralCamo> @liach I can't seem
to find it
<GeneralCamo> @liach I can't seem
to find itL473[22:51:40] <GeneralCamo> I'm finding all the
potion registries for xu2, but not the item registries
<GeneralCamo> I'm finding all the
potion registries for xu2, but not the item registriesL474[22:51:52] <liach>
That's sad
<liach>
That's sadL475[22:53:07] <GeneralCamo> Maybe I'm doing
this wrong
<GeneralCamo> Maybe I'm doing
this wrongL476[22:59:08]
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L482[23:04:07] <GeneralCamo> I think the solution is
to find other mods and see how they did this
<GeneralCamo> I think the solution is
to find other mods and see how they did thisL483[23:04:13] <GeneralCamo> Forestry sounds like a
good bet
<GeneralCamo> Forestry sounds like a
good betL484[23:04:30] <GeneralCamo> Wait wait what
<GeneralCamo> Wait wait whatL485[23:04:31] <GeneralCamo> Block enderLillyBlock =
ForgeRegistries.BLOCKS.getValue(new
ResourceLocation("extrautils2",
"EnderLilly"));
<GeneralCamo> Block enderLillyBlock =
ForgeRegistries.BLOCKS.getValue(new
ResourceLocation("extrautils2",
"EnderLilly"));L486[23:04:50] <GeneralCamo> I'm not familiar
with this syntax.... sigh
<GeneralCamo> I'm not familiar
with this syntax.... sighL487[23:08:28] <Natesky9> Looks similar to a ds_map
key?
<Natesky9> Looks similar to a ds_map
key?L488[23:08:43] <liach>
It means extrautils2:EnderLilly
<liach>
It means extrautils2:EnderLillyL489[23:11:38] <GeneralCamo> Excellent
<GeneralCamo> ExcellentL490[23:12:15] <GeneralCamo> Looking into forestry
quite a fair bit. It seems to use Forge Energy natively now.
<GeneralCamo> Looking into forestry
quite a fair bit. It seems to use Forge Energy natively now.L491[23:12:27] <GeneralCamo> With compatibility
layers for Tesla and RF
<GeneralCamo> With compatibility
layers for Tesla and RFL492[23:12:36] <GeneralCamo> ...I didn't know FE
was for 1.10
<GeneralCamo> ...I didn't know FE
was for 1.10L493[23:13:05] <Natesky9> Ideally, the framework that
hosts these mods *should* supply a standard energy format
<Natesky9> Ideally, the framework that
hosts these mods *should* supply a standard energy formatL494[23:13:11] <Natesky9> at least, that's what
I would think
<Natesky9> at least, that's what
I would thinkL495[23:13:34] <GeneralCamo> Forge only did it
because everyone used FE and that was unmaintained for the longest
time
<GeneralCamo> Forge only did it
because everyone used FE and that was unmaintained for the longest
timeL496[23:13:40] <GeneralCamo> Forge only did it
because everyone used RF and that was unmaintained for the longest
time
<GeneralCamo> Forge only did it
because everyone used RF and that was unmaintained for the longest
timeL497[23:13:50] <GeneralCamo> So Forge decided to make
their own maintained RF
<GeneralCamo> So Forge decided to make
their own maintained RFL498[23:14:01] <Natesky9> Which is a good idea,
honestly
<Natesky9> Which is a good idea,
honestlyL499[23:14:32] <Natesky9> It brings Forge closer to
being "The" standard for mods
<Natesky9> It brings Forge closer to
being "The" standard for modsL500[23:14:38] <Natesky9> which makes Mojang
happy
<Natesky9> which makes Mojang
happyL501[23:14:43] <GeneralCamo> Yes. CJ's goal is
to eventually move away entirely from RF and FE, which I don't
blame him for
<GeneralCamo> Yes. CJ's goal is
to eventually move away entirely from RF and FE, which I don't
blame him forL502[23:15:21] <GeneralCamo> But, I would personally
like to get rid of native support for RF and make it a pure
compatibility layer like Forestry did
<GeneralCamo> But, I would personally
like to get rid of native support for RF and make it a pure
compatibility layer like Forestry didL503[23:16:01] <GeneralCamo> Then later FE can also
be moved to a compatibility layer for the engines
<GeneralCamo> Then later FE can also
be moved to a compatibility layer for the enginesL504[23:16:25]
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L509[23:17:10] <vedrit> Why does everyone want to use
their own form of energy?! D:
<vedrit> Why does everyone want to use
their own form of energy?! D:L510[23:17:36] <GeneralCamo> RC =/ FE or RF
<GeneralCamo> RC =/ FE or RFL511[23:17:40] <GeneralCamo> It's
different
<GeneralCamo> It's
differentL512[23:17:43] <GeneralCamo> More similar to EU
<GeneralCamo> More similar to EUL513[23:18:06] <Natesky9> I can understand a
proprietary power system
<Natesky9> I can understand a
proprietary power systemL514[23:18:20] <vedrit> I can see how MJ, RF and EU
aren't compatible. One could be described as force, one
chemical, and the last as electricity
<vedrit> I can see how MJ, RF and EU
aren't compatible. One could be described as force, one
chemical, and the last as electricityL515[23:18:25] <Natesky9> however, there should be
*some* compatibility between them
<Natesky9> however, there should be
*some* compatibility between themL516[23:18:54] <vedrit> But what would RC be if not
one of those?
<vedrit> But what would RC be if not
one of those?L517[23:19:11] <Natesky9> That's a good
point
<Natesky9> That's a good
pointL518[23:19:17] <GeneralCamo> It's
electricity
<GeneralCamo> It's
electricityL519[23:19:36] <GeneralCamo> (Direct compatibility
exists between EU and RC as well)
<GeneralCamo> (Direct compatibility
exists between EU and RC as well)L520[23:20:07] <vedrit> Is EU copywritten? Can it not
be used instead of defining a new system and having to convert
between the two?
<vedrit> Is EU copywritten? Can it not
be used instead of defining a new system and having to convert
between the two?L521[23:20:15] <GeneralCamo> EU is oh so much
copywritten
<GeneralCamo> EU is oh so much
copywrittenL522[23:20:27] <vedrit> Oh...
<vedrit> Oh...L523[23:20:38] <vedrit> Well, FU,
IndustrialCraft!
<vedrit> Well, FU,
IndustrialCraft!L524[23:20:46] <GeneralCamo> Alblaka in this
case
<GeneralCamo> Alblaka in this
caseL525[23:21:04] <GeneralCamo> RF is dead anyway.
Though TE5 just came out...
<GeneralCamo> RF is dead anyway.
Though TE5 just came out...L526[23:21:10] <GeneralCamo> Yay....
<GeneralCamo> Yay....L527[23:22:09] <GeneralCamo> Forge Energy is the
successor to it (though that leaves the question of that the Flux
Capacitor should be called. The Forge Capacitor?)
<GeneralCamo> Forge Energy is the
successor to it (though that leaves the question of that the Flux
Capacitor should be called. The Forge Capacitor?)L528[23:22:16] <GeneralCamo> Forge Energy is the
successor to it (though that leaves the question of what the Flux
Capacitor should be called. The Forge Capacitor?)
<GeneralCamo> Forge Energy is the
successor to it (though that leaves the question of what the Flux
Capacitor should be called. The Forge Capacitor?)L529[23:22:20] <GeneralCamo> (That sounds...
dumb)
<GeneralCamo> (That sounds...
dumb)L530[23:22:45] <Natesky9> I know I said this
before
<Natesky9> I know I said this
beforeL531[23:22:57] <Natesky9> but have you guys actually
read the "docs" on redstone flux?
<Natesky9> but have you guys actually
read the "docs" on redstone flux?L532[23:23:10] <GeneralCamo> I have not
actually
<GeneralCamo> I have not
actuallyL533[23:23:15] <GeneralCamo> Well except for the
licenses
<GeneralCamo> Well except for the
licensesL534[23:23:21] <vedrit> Um...if I did, it was many a
year ago
<vedrit> Um...if I did, it was many a
year agoL535[23:24:00] <Natesky9> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ln7aSAvtsZ_NW3HZCphqvcxUEoMw2-OUHpHOCVKl5Xw/edit
<Natesky9> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ln7aSAvtsZ_NW3HZCphqvcxUEoMw2-OUHpHOCVKl5Xw/editL536[23:24:08] <Natesky9> Worth a read
<Natesky9> Worth a readL537[23:26:14] ⇦
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L538[23:28:09] <vedrit> Yeah, so, redstone behaves
like a few different chemical compounds, with some handwavium mixed
in for fun
<vedrit> Yeah, so, redstone behaves
like a few different chemical compounds, with some handwavium mixed
in for funL539[23:29:40] <Natesky9> Yeah, it fits in the field
of realism
<Natesky9> Yeah, it fits in the field
of realismL540[23:30:06] <Natesky9> not too overly technical,
but easy enough to understand
<Natesky9> not too overly technical,
but easy enough to understandL541[23:30:13] <vedrit> Yeah
<vedrit> YeahL542[23:30:22] <Natesky9> Which is why I like it so
much
<Natesky9> Which is why I like it so
muchL543[23:30:35] <Natesky9> it's just a shame that
they have discontinued it
<Natesky9> it's just a shame that
they have discontinued itL544[23:30:59] <vedrit> Just different enough to not
be mundane, like joules or electricity, but not so different as to
be absurd
<vedrit> Just different enough to not
be mundane, like joules or electricity, but not so different as to
be absurdL545[23:32:28] <Natesky9> It's a thematic mod
that melds well between vanilla and modded. I just wish Forge
Energy feels as authentic
<Natesky9> It's a thematic mod
that melds well between vanilla and modded. I just wish Forge
Energy feels as authenticL547[23:34:38] <GeneralCamo> Finally got this on
GitHub
<GeneralCamo> Finally got this on
GitHubL548[23:34:42] <GeneralCamo> So as to not forget
it
<GeneralCamo> So as to not forget
itL549[23:40:42] <GeneralCamo> I'm a moron
<GeneralCamo> I'm a moronL550[23:40:51] <GeneralCamo> I didn't see that
Extra Utilities has a deobfuscated .jar
<GeneralCamo> I didn't see that
Extra Utilities has a deobfuscated .jarL551[23:44:03]
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L556[23:45:00] <GeneralCamo> Fearful reaction?
<GeneralCamo> Fearful reaction?L557[23:45:11] <Natesky9> wha?
<Natesky9> wha?