L1[00:16:53] 
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkour
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkourL2[00:16:58] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL3[00:16:58] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Spider
EveryOS! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 14
minutes and 21 seconds (By 30 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L4[00:16:59] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk
points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 2.98308521. Position #1
L5[00:21:25] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster
with mutable grape potiom
L6[00:21:25] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable
spice potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster
turns into an iron fish until they find a rickety gazebo.
L7[00:22:37] <Spider
EveryOS> %sip
<Spider
EveryOS> %sipL8[00:22:37] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid
pussplum potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts Spider EveryOS
until someone stops looking at them.
L9[00:52:35] <stephanj> Izzy: bad news!
uranus has flatlined!!!!111!!! did you try cpr?
L10[00:55:59] <Izzy> lololol
L11[00:59:36] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi to protecc, does a heccen
zzzmew
L12[00:59:39] <Amanda> Night girls
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L16[04:13:03] <kimapr>
%tonk
<kimapr>
%tonkL17[04:13:03] <MichiBot> Eureka! kimapr!
You beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 56
minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L18[04:13:04] <MichiBot> kimapr's new
record is 3 hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds! kimapr also gained
0.00393 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need
0.59763393 more points to pass Vaur!
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L20[04:33:39] <Forecaster> Iron fish? D:
<Forecaster> Iron fish? D:L21[04:43:19] ⇨
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L22[05:25:07] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL23[05:25:07] <MichiBot> You drink an awful
aether potion (New!). Vaur's radiation level goes up by 1. Vaur's
radiation level is 1. (Rem. uses: 0)
L24[05:33:32] <Lily> If
you trade with an animal, does that make *you* a fae? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729834412448.png
<Lily> If
you trade with an animal, does that make *you* a fae? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729834412448.pngL25[06:20:09] ⇦
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L27[06:42:46] <ff_66>
Also i might have found an infinite windows glitch with activation
keys
<ff_66>
Also i might have found an infinite windows glitch with activation
keysL28[06:42:46] <ff_66> You
see, back in 2016, Windows 7 Enterprise was installed on my PC,
which can only be bought in the form of VL, more precisely, MAK
(multiple activation keys).
<ff_66> You
see, back in 2016, Windows 7 Enterprise was installed on my PC,
which can only be bought in the form of VL, more precisely, MAK
(multiple activation keys).L29[06:42:47] <ff_66> It
means that, since the others PC from the university where the
product key came from were surely trashed, I have at least 4 other
computers that can be actvated with the most expensive edition of
windows, which at the time didn't require a domain or a broker to
install
<ff_66> It
means that, since the others PC from the university where the
product key came from were surely trashed, I have at least 4 other
computers that can be actvated with the most expensive edition of
windows, which at the time didn't require a domain or a broker to
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L31[06:51:25] zsh
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L33[07:29:50] <Izzy> remember, you
shouldn't pirate proprietary software, as that only spreads
proprietary software
L34[07:31:33] <ff_66>
technically, it has been bought, and the university completely
allowed to use the keys for free as they would pay themselves
<ff_66>
technically, it has been bought, and the university completely
allowed to use the keys for free as they would pay themselvesL35[07:32:08] <ff_66>
also it is not my fault if everyone thinks that every key is an OEM
key
<ff_66>
also it is not my fault if everyone thinks that every key is an OEM
keyL36[07:32:48] <ff_66>
that's why Retail is better if you want to change the PC later, aka
if you plan on the long term
<ff_66>
that's why Retail is better if you want to change the PC later, aka
if you plan on the long termL37[07:33:54] <Izzy> I would simply have my
workplace pay for it and deal with it
L38[07:34:03] <Izzy> which would likely
mean me dealing with it in a roundabout way
L39[07:34:22] <ff_66> the
trouble though with VL is that if you know what is the key, you
basically have like, 5 to 200 Windows in the same 25 characters
code
<ff_66> the
trouble though with VL is that if you know what is the key, you
basically have like, 5 to 200 Windows in the same 25 characters
codeL40[07:35:28] <Corded> > <Izzy>
remember, you shouldn't pirate proprietary software, as tha…
L41[07:35:28] <Lily>
Izzy: True, but it's better than paying for proprietary
software!
<Lily>
Izzy: True, but it's better than paying for proprietary
software!L42[07:37:24] <Corded> > <Izzy>
remember, you shouldn't pirate proprietary software, as tha…
L43[07:37:24] <ff_66> if
you reverse the sentence, you just said "If you want the game,
pirate it. If you like it, buy it." which would effectively
spread the popularity of the software and... increase in some ways
the revenues, but not as much as "Everyone pays before using
!!!"
<ff_66> if
you reverse the sentence, you just said "If you want the game,
pirate it. If you like it, buy it." which would effectively
spread the popularity of the software and... increase in some ways
the revenues, but not as much as "Everyone pays before using
!!!"L44[07:38:51] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> Izzy: True, but it's better than paying for
proprietary sof…
L45[07:38:51] <ff_66>
every file needed for minecraft to run *are* in free access, you're
just paying for one command line to launch the game
<ff_66>
every file needed for minecraft to run *are* in free access, you're
just paying for one command line to launch the gameL46[07:39:20] <ff_66>
*And an access to multiplayer worlds
<ff_66>
*And an access to multiplayer worldsL47[07:39:38] <ff_66> But
who needs that anyways ?
<ff_66> But
who needs that anyways ?L48[07:40:04] <Izzy> Lily: Philosophical
question: is non-game software art?
L49[07:40:24] <ff_66>
**and no it is not my fault if it is starting to speak about
piracy**
<ff_66>
**and no it is not my fault if it is starting to speak about
piracy**L50[07:40:26] <Izzy> Games and other
entertainment software generally is considered as such, but,
L51[07:40:31] <Corded> > <Izzy>
Lily: Philosophical question: is non-game software art?
L52[07:40:32] <Lily>
Izzy: It depends!
<Lily>
Izzy: It depends!L53[07:40:50] <Lily> I'd
consider software made as a hobby project to be art
<Lily> I'd
consider software made as a hobby project to be artL54[07:40:58] <Corded> > <Izzy>
Lily: Philosophical question: is non-game software art?
L55[07:40:58] <ff_66>
well, if you pay microsoft only for the wallpapers...
<ff_66>
well, if you pay microsoft only for the wallpapers...L56[07:42:25] <Izzy> I get what you're
going for there, but I'm not sure it's entirely fair to categorise
paid work as not-art
L57[07:42:41] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> I'd consider software made as a hobby
project to be art
L58[07:42:41] <ff_66> so
making a custom firmware on a calculator as a hobby is art ?
<ff_66> so
making a custom firmware on a calculator as a hobby is art ?L59[07:43:01] <Izzy> art commissions are
still art
L60[07:43:08] <Corded> > <ff_66>
so making a custom firmware on a calculator as a hobby is a…
L61[07:43:08] <Lily> Yes,
it is
<Lily> Yes,
it isL62[07:43:21] <Lily>
Izzy: Hobby work can be paid
<Lily>
Izzy: Hobby work can be paidL63[07:43:42] <Izzy> I guess your thinking
is along the lines of intent?
L64[07:43:46] <Lily>
Yeah
<Lily>
YeahL65[07:43:53] <Izzy> If one did not have to
work to live, would all software then be art?
L66[07:44:20] <Lily> I
think it still depends -- did they enjoy making it?
<Lily> I
think it still depends -- did they enjoy making it?L67[07:44:31] <Lily>
Though you can make art and not enjoy it
<Lily>
Though you can make art and not enjoy itL68[07:45:16] <ff_66>
well, if you enjoy having pain, then :
<ff_66>
well, if you enjoy having pain, then :L69[07:45:16] <ff_66> 1.
you're a masochist
<ff_66> 1.
you're a masochistL70[07:45:16] <ff_66> 2.
yes it would be software art
<ff_66> 2.
yes it would be software artL71[07:46:48] <Forecaster> swart
<Forecaster> swartL72[07:46:57] <Lily>
swart
<Lily>
swartL73[08:01:01] <Corded> > <Amanda>
Libre no man's sky?
L74[08:01:01] <Liizzii-chan> Network Monitoring
System
<Liizzii-chan> Network Monitoring
SystemL75[08:03:13] <Forecaster> I saw there was a new update
for Network Monitoring System on steam yesterday
<Forecaster> I saw there was a new update
for Network Monitoring System on steam yesterdayL76[08:03:20] <Forecaster> some halloween-y thing
<Forecaster> some halloween-y thingL77[08:03:57] <Forecaster> The Cursed
<Forecaster> The CursedL78[08:05:16] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> some halloween-y thing
L79[08:05:16] <ff_66>
dirscord and skribbl.io also got that update
<ff_66>
dirscord and skribbl.io also got that updateL80[08:38:27] <Corded> >
<Liizzii> syncthing isn't having a great time with this
folder
L81[08:38:27] <Liizzii-chan> So this folder managed to
sync overnight with one two nodes (source and one remote),
reintroduced the 2nd remote node just now so we'll see if they can
sync up as well and stay in sync.
<Liizzii-chan> So this folder managed to
sync overnight with one two nodes (source and one remote),
reintroduced the 2nd remote node just now so we'll see if they can
sync up as well and stay in sync.L82[08:41:25] <Liizzii-chan> Hmm, wonder if
ceph/glusterfs might be better suited for this task...
<Liizzii-chan> Hmm, wonder if
ceph/glusterfs might be better suited for this task...L83[09:00:37] ⇦
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L85[09:06:24] <Forecaster> bleh
<Forecaster> blehL86[09:06:31] <Forecaster> why is rotating the display
on a pi so hard
<Forecaster> why is rotating the display
on a pi so hardL87[09:06:47] <Forecaster> nothing works
<Forecaster> nothing worksL88[09:07:03] <ff_66> use
a phi instead
<ff_66> use
a phi insteadL89[09:13:25] <Forecaster> are you kidding me...
<Forecaster> are you kidding me...L90[09:13:28] <ff_66>
yes
<ff_66>
yesL91[09:13:52] <ff_66> i
know what a raspberry pi is
<ff_66> i
know what a raspberry pi isL92[09:14:19] <Forecaster> apparently for the screen
configuration to save the settings you have to use `File >
Quit`
<Forecaster> apparently for the screen
configuration to save the settings you have to use `File >
Quit`L93[09:14:27] <ff_66>
what model also ?
<ff_66>
what model also ?L94[09:14:37] <Forecaster> and *not* the very prominent
`Close` button
<Forecaster> and *not* the very prominent
`Close` buttonL95[09:14:59] <Forecaster> which apparently revers any
changes without prompting, even after having pressed `Apply`
<Forecaster> which apparently revers any
changes without prompting, even after having pressed `Apply`L96[09:15:02] <Forecaster> 😐
<Forecaster> 😐L97[09:15:14] <Forecaster> * reverts any changes without
prompting, even after having pressed `Apply`
<Forecaster> * reverts any changes without
prompting, even after having pressed `Apply`L98[09:15:25] <Forecaster> that is so dumb...
<Forecaster> that is so dumb...L99[09:15:35] <ff_66>
`Close` and `Quit` are synonyms, *right* ?
<ff_66>
`Close` and `Quit` are synonyms, *right* ?L100[09:16:00] <Forecaster> generally yes...
<Forecaster> generally yes...L101[09:16:12] <Forecaster> this is a pi3b+
<Forecaster> this is a pi3b+L102[09:18:49] <Izzy> not on OS X
L103[09:19:07] <Izzy> or RISC OS, for that
matter
L104[09:19:15] <Izzy> that runs on
RPis
L105[09:19:30] <Forecaster> I'm using PiOS
<Forecaster> I'm using PiOSL106[09:20:41] <Forecaster> also none of this would have
been necessary if someone hadn't decided to change the default
orientation for some reason, which caused the *official* 7"
touch screen to be upside down in all holders made for it
<Forecaster> also none of this would have
been necessary if someone hadn't decided to change the default
orientation for some reason, which caused the *official* 7"
touch screen to be upside down in all holders made for itL107[09:22:25] <ff_66> i
think my PC should be good (some prices specified are roughly the
good ones) : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMgQ34
<ff_66> i
think my PC should be good (some prices specified are roughly the
good ones) : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMgQ34L108[09:25:25] <ff_66> and
*yes* i want a good amount of RAM at a good frequency
<ff_66> and
*yes* i want a good amount of RAM at a good frequencyL109[09:25:42] <Izzy> GPU seems a little
unbalanced
L110[09:25:56] <Forecaster> I had like 20 tabs open about
rotating the screen...
<Forecaster> I had like 20 tabs open about
rotating the screen...L111[09:27:02] <Izzy> also, ff_66, if
you're on a budget, considering getting max size DIMMs so you don't
have to replace them later to get more
L112[09:27:17] <Izzy> takes about 10 years
for you to end up swimming in DIMMs and by then they're two gens
old
L113[09:27:50] <Corded> > <Izzy>
GPU seems a little unbalanced
L114[09:27:50] <ff_66> it
is already bought and for what i'm doing with it i'm fine
<ff_66> it
is already bought and for what i'm doing with it i'm fineL115[09:28:01] <Izzy> but you may not want
to end up like me having use for that much DDR3 y'know
L116[09:28:26] <Corded> > <Izzy>
also, ff_66, if you're on a budget, considering getting max…
L117[09:28:26] <ff_66>
what do you mean by "max size" ? it is already 48GB each,
which is the max for the motherboard
<ff_66>
what do you mean by "max size" ? it is already 48GB each,
which is the max for the motherboardL118[09:28:42] <Izzy> oh the motherboard
doesn't support DIMMs bigger than 48GB?
L119[09:28:42] <Corded> > <Izzy>
but you may not want to end up like me having use for that …
L120[09:28:43] <ff_66> my
current PC is on 8 GB DDR3
<ff_66> my
current PC is on 8 GB DDR3L121[09:29:06] <Izzy> I don't know what
the max DDR5 size is
L122[09:29:15] <Corded> > <Izzy>
oh the motherboard doesn't support DIMMs bigger than 48GB?
L123[09:29:15] <ff_66>
some support 64GB but *come on*
<ff_66>
some support 64GB but *come on*L124[09:29:15] <ff_66> it
is already ok for playing BeamNG.drive
<ff_66> it
is already ok for playing BeamNG.driveL125[09:29:41] <Corded> > <Izzy>
I don't know what the max DDR5 size is
L126[09:29:41] <ff_66>
before it was 48GB, now it is 64GB for *some motherboards*
<ff_66>
before it was 48GB, now it is 64GB for *some motherboards*L127[09:29:50] <ff_66> per
DIMM
<ff_66> per
DIMML128[09:30:10] <Izzy> I mean the standard
and what's produced, not the motherboard implementations :p
L129[09:30:11] <ff_66>
maybe a future update will allow for more but for now...
<ff_66>
maybe a future update will allow for more but for now...L130[09:30:26] <Izzy> if the board can
only handle 48GB per stick then it seems ideal - you won't have to
replace them down the road, and you won't need to steal them to put
into something else
L131[09:31:07] <ff_66> and
later in like 1 or 2 years i'll invest into a custom
watercooling
<ff_66> and
later in like 1 or 2 years i'll invest into a custom
watercoolingL132[09:31:32] <ff_66>
it's somewhat cheap to maintain and if the pump fails it costs less
than any AIO
<ff_66>
it's somewhat cheap to maintain and if the pump fails it costs less
than any AIOL133[09:31:56] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonk
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkL134[09:31:56] <MichiBot> Hooray! Spider
EveryOS! You beat kimapr's previous record of 3 hours, 56 minutes
and 4 seconds (By 1 hour, 22 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L135[09:31:57] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's
new record is 5 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds! Spider EveryOS
also gained 0.00552 (0.00138 x 4) tonk points for stealing the
tonk. Position #1.
L136[09:32:01] <ff_66>
also 6400MHz is really good for DDR5
<ff_66>
also 6400MHz is really good for DDR5L137[09:32:14] <ff_66> i
could get more but...
<ff_66> i
could get more but...L138[09:32:21] <ff_66>
$$$$$
<ff_66>
$$$$$L139[09:32:38] <Izzy> > DDR5 octuples
the maximum DIMM capacity from 64 GB to 512 GB
L140[09:33:05] <Izzy> I feel like at least
at this stage, a max size DDR5 DIMM may be excessive. Carry
on.
L141[09:33:33] <Izzy> Not that I imagine
you can buy them that big yet anyway
L142[09:34:43] <Corded> > <Izzy>
> DDR5 octuples the maximum DIMM capacity from 64 GB to
512…
L143[09:34:43] <ff_66>
well, now, DDR5-6800 it is
<ff_66>
well, now, DDR5-6800 it isL144[09:34:53] <ff_66>
still 96GB, but faster
<ff_66>
still 96GB, but fasterL145[09:35:11] <ff_66> and
still in the CPU specs
<ff_66> and
still in the CPU specsL146[09:35:23] <ff_66> (to
avoid any warranty void)
<ff_66> (to
avoid any warranty void)L147[09:35:32] <Izzy> that means the RAM
is actually running at ... 3.4Ghz?
L148[09:35:55] <ff_66>
that's the speed of my current PC, yeah
<ff_66>
that's the speed of my current PC, yeahL149[09:36:23] <ff_66>
3.5GHz, OC to 4.4GHz (could get more by increasing latency)
<ff_66>
3.5GHz, OC to 4.4GHz (could get more by increasing latency)L150[09:37:03] <ff_66> but
eh, it will perform at least
<ff_66> but
eh, it will perform at leastL151[09:37:18] <Izzy> hm? no I meant DDR
means they call it double the clock speed because it does two
transfers per cycle
L152[09:37:41] <ff_66> yes
taskmgr corrected this recently
<ff_66> yes
taskmgr corrected this recentlyL153[09:37:53] <ff_66> now
it is MT, not MHz
<ff_66> now
it is MT, not MHzL154[09:38:33] <Izzy> once upon a time it
was correct, I guess
L155[09:38:43] <ff_66> it
is not overkill, it is futureproofing
<ff_66> it
is not overkill, it is futureproofingL156[09:39:04] <ff_66>
also i calculated the inflation and deducted that it is as
expensive as in 2016
<ff_66>
also i calculated the inflation and deducted that it is as
expensive as in 2016L157[09:40:01] <ff_66>
i'll change the CPU when the socket will be "dead" which
will make it cheaper and then wait a couple years with my OC
setup
<ff_66>
i'll change the CPU when the socket will be "dead" which
will make it cheaper and then wait a couple years with my OC
setupL158[09:41:41] <ff_66>
which will be chaper than getting a cheap 1000€ PC twice in 10
years, but my parents aren't understanding my thinkings
<ff_66>
which will be chaper than getting a cheap 1000€ PC twice in 10
years, but my parents aren't understanding my thinkingsL159[09:42:15] <ff_66>
they just think that i've been "poisoned" by experienced
PC builders & gamers
<ff_66>
they just think that i've been "poisoned" by experienced
PC builders & gamersL160[09:42:29] <ff_66> and
thus they don't want to hear me
<ff_66> and
thus they don't want to hear meL161[09:42:32] <Izzy> I don't think that's
on them
L162[09:43:18] <ff_66>
well, i still need the money
<ff_66>
well, i still need the moneyL163[09:43:44] <ff_66>
i've got 200€ and they've got not much more at the end of each
month
<ff_66>
i've got 200€ and they've got not much more at the end of each
monthL164[09:44:54] <ff_66>
sure, gamers don't know that a mouse is not as important as the
rest (my mouse is the same since the beginning in 2016)
<ff_66>
sure, gamers don't know that a mouse is not as important as the
rest (my mouse is the same since the beginning in 2016)L165[09:45:14] <ff_66> but
they've got great advices on other things than peripherals
<ff_66> but
they've got great advices on other things than peripheralsL166[09:45:16] <Izzy> I got scammed with
my mouse, it cost $15
L167[09:47:05] <ff_66>
it's not a scam, it's a fine price for that kind of
peripherals
<ff_66>
it's not a scam, it's a fine price for that kind of
peripheralsL168[09:47:31] <ff_66> my
K120 keyboard : same : cheap and it does its job
<ff_66> my
K120 keyboard : same : cheap and it does its jobL169[09:48:20] <ff_66> my
1080p 60Hz screen : completely fine byt gamers say "120Hz is
the must have", which is WRONG
<ff_66> my
1080p 60Hz screen : completely fine byt gamers say "120Hz is
the must have", which is WRONGL170[09:48:25] <Izzy> I dunno I could've
gotten one for free, like I did with my keyboard
L171[09:48:49] <Izzy> you may not like it
but the Dell SK-8135 is what peak performance looks like
L172[09:49:20] <Corded> > <Izzy>
I dunno I could've gotten one for free, like I did with my …
L173[09:49:20] <ff_66> you
can get entire PCs for free if you ask enterprises which are
throwing away their PCs
<ff_66> you
can get entire PCs for free if you ask enterprises which are
throwing away their PCsL174[09:49:40] <ff_66> it
might not work but it is worth trying
<ff_66> it
might not work but it is worth tryingL175[09:50:20] <Izzy> tangentially, if
you're buying a 1080p monitor, consider a 1920x1200 one
instead
L176[09:50:34] <Izzy> same price used, but
you get 120 extra pixels
L177[09:50:51] <Izzy> something to keep in
mind for the future :)
L178[09:51:18] <Izzy> (120 vertical
pixels. brain -> keyboard is working as well as usual)
L179[09:52:02] <Corded> > <Izzy>
tangentially, if you're buying a 1080p monitor, consider a …
L180[09:52:02] <ff_66> i
can get free 1080p monitors thans to the university where my father
works in
<ff_66> i
can get free 1080p monitors thans to the university where my father
works inL181[09:52:34] <ff_66>
and... Very old PCs also
<ff_66>
and... Very old PCs alsoL182[09:52:51] <ff_66>
like the PC i'm currently on with a Core 2 Duo
<ff_66>
like the PC i'm currently on with a Core 2 DuoL183[09:53:12] <Izzy> mmmh, anything newer
would probably be Fine for light use after all
L184[09:53:36] <Izzy> people may complain
about library computers being slow but they don't usually do
anything about it
L185[09:53:58] <ff_66>
Well, it can still play Minecraft 1.0.0 in 30 fps with
Optifine
<ff_66>
Well, it can still play Minecraft 1.0.0 in 30 fps with
OptifineL186[09:54:19] <ff_66>
with a slight upgrade which is the nVidia GT 218
<ff_66>
with a slight upgrade which is the nVidia GT 218L187[09:54:33] <Izzy> I had a 220
once
L188[09:54:45] <Izzy> with a uhhhh... C2D
E6300?
L189[09:55:02] <Izzy> and a board packed
to the gills with RAM (4GB)
L190[09:55:07] <Izzy> it ran skyrim
okay
L191[09:55:16] <ff_66> and
the 1650 being the same performance as some iGPUs today, i'm
definitely playing BeamNG in dula monitor setup
<ff_66> and
the 1650 being the same performance as some iGPUs today, i'm
definitely playing BeamNG in dula monitor setupL192[09:55:41] <Corded> > <Izzy>
with a uhhhh... C2D E6300?
L193[09:55:42] <ff_66>
mine's got an E8400
<ff_66>
mine's got an E8400L194[09:56:09] <ff_66>
apparently very good but the chipset is preventing me from
*upgrading it*
<ff_66>
apparently very good but the chipset is preventing me from
*upgrading it*L195[09:56:16] <Izzy> I had two C2Ds I
could choose from
L196[09:56:23] <ff_66> (by
OC sure)
<ff_66> (by
OC sure)L197[09:56:41] <Izzy> the E6300 at 1.86Ghz
or ... a different one, at something more like 3Ghz, but it didn't
have VT-x, and the E6300 did
L198[09:56:46] <Izzy> so the E6300 got the
job
L199[09:57:37] <Izzy> hm. the nforce
chipset in that machine kinda sucked but you know what it did have?
firewire. my current machine doesn't have firewire. an unfortunate
oversight.
L200[09:57:39] <ff_66>
both were E6300 ?
<ff_66>
both were E6300 ?L201[09:57:53] <Izzy> no, the other option
was a different, faster model without VT-x
L202[09:58:46] <ff_66> who
needs that anyways ?
<ff_66> who
needs that anyways ?L203[09:58:58] <Izzy> me, of course
L204[09:59:12] <Izzy> hii my name is Izzy
and I'm a virtualisation addict
L206[09:59:58] <Corded> > <Izzy>
hii my name is Izzy and I'm a virtualisation addict
L207[09:59:58] <ff_66> why
are you introducing yourself when my mother just come next to me
?
<ff_66> why
are you introducing yourself when my mother just come next to me
?L208[10:00:22] <Izzy> I like to spin up
lots of cute little VMs, give them a network, and watch them
cooperate, or fight
L209[10:00:42] <ff_66>
since when can VM fight ?
<ff_66>
since when can VM fight ?L210[10:00:54] <ff_66> for
resources ?
<ff_66> for
resources ?L211[10:02:19] <Izzy> they can not get
along :(
L212[10:02:36] <ff_66>
also i forgot to include thermal paste :(
<ff_66>
also i forgot to include thermal paste :(L213[10:02:41] <ff_66> in
my build
<ff_66> in
my buildL214[10:02:53] <ff_66>
what amount should i get ?
<ff_66>
what amount should i get ?L215[10:03:34] <ff_66> and
what is the best in term of thermal conductivity ?
<ff_66> and
what is the best in term of thermal conductivity ?L216[10:04:25] <Izzy> fr though I would
never consider a CPU for a desktop without virtualisation
support
L217[10:04:32] <Izzy> having the option
can be super convenient
L218[10:05:24] <ff_66> yes
for security purposesbut for a normal user though...
<ff_66> yes
for security purposesbut for a normal user though...L219[10:06:26] <Izzy> security? well
maybe, I gather modern windows is running inside HyperV now for
some reason
L220[10:06:46] <Izzy> from my perspective,
what if I need some weird utility, or I need to test software on a
different OS?
L221[10:06:54] <Izzy> or if I want to test
something on my current OS, repeatedly?
L222[10:06:57] <Izzy> I can just roll back
a VM
L223[10:07:05] <Izzy> you can do that with
a normal OS sure but it's inconvenient
L224[10:07:20] <Corded> > <Izzy>
security? well maybe, I gather modern windows is running in…
L225[10:07:20] <ff_66>
maybe KubesOS can use VT-x to secure the system even more ?
<ff_66>
maybe KubesOS can use VT-x to secure the system even more ?L226[10:07:53] <ff_66> but
modern windows use this to protect the kernel
<ff_66> but
modern windows use this to protect the kernelL227[10:16:51] <ff_66>
there we go
<ff_66>
there we goL228[10:16:51] <ff_66>
same thing, my parents are complaining about the perfectly normal
for a PC
<ff_66>
same thing, my parents are complaining about the perfectly normal
for a PCL229[10:17:05] <ff_66>
*normal price
<ff_66>
*normal priceL230[10:29:31] <Izzy> you could get a
pretty nice car for that sort of money
L231[10:29:49] <Izzy> not quite enough for
a swift without mate's rates but you could totally get a cute
little 323
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L235[10:32:27] <Corded> > <Izzy>
you could get a pretty nice car for that sort of money
L236[10:32:27] <ff_66> for
1 500€ ? i think the "nice car" would be "nice
sh*t" as a "nice car" would cost 20 times more
money
<ff_66> for
1 500€ ? i think the "nice car" would be "nice
sh*t" as a "nice car" would cost 20 times more
moneyL237[10:32:49] <Izzy> I was going off
overall price
L238[10:33:53] <Izzy> 3.3kAUD will get you
a reasonably well kept example of a late 90s-early 2000s small
car
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L240[10:34:36] <Izzy> and those are a lot
of fun, from my experience :3
L241[10:35:25] <ff_66> i
don't have a driving license anyways
<ff_66> i
don't have a driving license anywaysL242[10:35:33] <Izzy> though I've been
told I have somewhat unusual taste
L243[10:35:37] *
Amanda looks around and meows about the injustices of the world,
like the fact she's even awake
L244[10:36:02] <ff_66> and
the fact they can't imagine paying one part per month ?
<ff_66> and
the fact they can't imagine paying one part per month ?L245[10:36:37] <ff_66> the
500€ CPU can be bought later this year and i can pay half its
price
<ff_66> the
500€ CPU can be bought later this year and i can pay half its
priceL246[10:36:43] <Izzy> give me a vehicle
that weighs as little as possible with the smallest practical
engine :3
L247[10:37:00] <ff_66> but
they don't want to hear anything
<ff_66> but
they don't want to hear anythingL248[10:37:19] <Corded> > <Izzy>
give me a vehicle that weighs as little as possible with th…
L249[10:37:19] <ff_66> a
VW beetle from the '30 ?
<ff_66> a
VW beetle from the '30 ?L250[10:37:59] <Izzy> it's pretty hard,
but not impossible, do outdo a first-new-gen swift if you want to
be able to go on the highway
L251[10:38:12] <Izzy> a mirage with the
6A10 would be a compelling counter-argument though
L252[10:38:35] <Izzy> mitsubishi are
delightfully unhinged. I hope I can get one one day
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L255[10:40:02] <Izzy> > today we will
build a 1600cc V6
L256[10:40:13] <Izzy> statements dreamed
up by the utterly deranged
L257[10:41:44] <Amanda> Nah, that's not
injustice, ff. I highly doubt you know the specifics of your
parents financial situation
L258[10:42:41] <ff_66> it
is, they can perfectly do it with 400€ per month
<ff_66> it
is, they can perfectly do it with 400€ per monthL259[10:43:02] <ff_66> *
left per month
<ff_66> *
left per monthL260[10:43:38] <ff_66> the
most expensive part is the CPU and the price will go down and my
money can cut it's price in half
<ff_66> the
most expensive part is the CPU and the price will go down and my
money can cut it's price in halfL261[10:44:49] <Izzy> it's a lot of money
either way
L262[10:45:15] <Izzy> that money could be
saved until you can get the whole thing, for example, at which
point you'd be able to get something better
L263[10:45:39] <Izzy> or, eventually
savings and the price of the thing will meet as the price goes
down
L264[10:45:59] <Izzy> you're young. touch
grass some time.
L265[10:46:26] <Izzy> climb a tree
L266[10:46:30] <Corded> > <Izzy>
that money could be saved until you can get the whole thing…
L267[10:46:31] <ff_66> at
which point the whole PC would have to be rethinked as 15th gen
would not be optimal anymore
<ff_66> at
which point the whole PC would have to be rethinked as 15th gen
would not be optimal anymoreL268[10:46:40] <Corded> > <Izzy>
climb a tree
L269[10:46:40] <ff_66> ok,
i'll do it
<ff_66> ok,
i'll do itL270[10:46:46] <Izzy> right, you'd have
the money for Nth gen then
L271[10:46:54] <Izzy> where N is
whatever's current
L272[10:47:15] <Izzy> so you'd have an
upgrade compared to your plans
L273[10:47:17] <Corded> > <Izzy>
you're young. touch grass some time.
L274[10:47:17] <ff_66> i
would like to work, legally i can, but i doubt anyone will engage
me
<ff_66> i
would like to work, legally i can, but i doubt anyone will engage
meL275[10:47:44] <Izzy> no I meant, go play
outside
L276[10:48:00] <Izzy> I mean that
genuinely, it'll be a lot harder when you're older. enjoy it.
L277[10:48:06] <Izzy> gets real hard to
make friends after school too.
L278[10:48:29] <Forecaster> This is true
<Forecaster> This is trueL279[10:48:39] <Corded> > <Izzy>
or, eventually savings and the price of the thing will meet…
L280[10:48:39] <ff_66>
they don't have savings as they prefer buying things for
themselves
<ff_66>
they don't have savings as they prefer buying things for
themselvesL281[10:48:39] <ff_66> i
don't want to get any clothes and they say i'm not saving
money
<ff_66> i
don't want to get any clothes and they say i'm not saving
moneyL282[10:48:50] <Corded> > <Izzy>
gets real hard to make friends after school too.
L283[10:48:51] <ff_66>
i've got friends already
<ff_66>
i've got friends alreadyL284[10:50:58] <Corded> > <Izzy>
so you'd have an upgrade compared to your plans
L285[10:50:58] <ff_66>
let's say i'll get enough savings for 17th gen, but the 17th gen is
the last gen for LGA1851. i would not buy since i wouldn't have
upgrades after that. the next gen though would be ok, but i would
need one more year and maybe it will be DDR6, maybe SATA won't
exist anymore etc... so i would need even more money
<ff_66>
let's say i'll get enough savings for 17th gen, but the 17th gen is
the last gen for LGA1851. i would not buy since i wouldn't have
upgrades after that. the next gen though would be ok, but i would
need one more year and maybe it will be DDR6, maybe SATA won't
exist anymore etc... so i would need even more moneyL286[10:52:22] <ff_66> i.
can. buy. now. they. just. want. to be. always. right. except.
that's. wrong.
<ff_66> i.
can. buy. now. they. just. want. to be. always. right. except.
that's. wrong.L287[10:53:11] <Forecaster> just because you want it
doesn't mean they have to give it to you, regardless of if you're
right or not
<Forecaster> just because you want it
doesn't mean they have to give it to you, regardless of if you're
right or notL288[10:53:43] <Amanda> That too
L289[10:53:57] <ff_66>
yes, but they don't know the principles of the society. "Pay
more, gain less"
<ff_66>
yes, but they don't know the principles of the society. "Pay
more, gain less"L290[10:54:25] <ff_66> the
more they wait, the more difficult it'll become to buy a
futureproofed PC
<ff_66> the
more they wait, the more difficult it'll become to buy a
futureproofed PCL291[10:54:49] <Forecaster> eventually it'll stop being
their problem when you're old enough to pay for it yourself
<Forecaster> eventually it'll stop being
their problem when you're old enough to pay for it yourselfL292[10:55:02] <Forecaster> at which point they'll have
spent nothing 🙂
<Forecaster> at which point they'll have
spent nothing 🙂L293[10:55:10] <Izzy> (ideal
outcome)
L294[10:55:33] <Forecaster> also there is no such thing
as a futureproof pc
<Forecaster> also there is no such thing
as a futureproof pcL295[10:55:37] <Izzy> ^
L296[10:55:47] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> eventually it'll stop being their problem when
you're old e…
L297[10:55:47] <ff_66>
i'll make 8 years of studies + 2 years left of high school. that's
a f*cking decade
<ff_66>
i'll make 8 years of studies + 2 years left of high school. that's
a f*cking decadeL298[10:55:59] <Forecaster> I did say
"eventually"
<Forecaster> I did say
"eventually"L299[10:56:01] <Izzy> just fit for purpose
and not fit for purpose
L300[10:56:40] <ff_66> i
can sure work to gain... 100€ per month
<ff_66> i
can sure work to gain... 100€ per monthL301[10:57:15] <ff_66> in
14 months, everything will have changed and i'll have to pay even
more
<ff_66> in
14 months, everything will have changed and i'll have to pay even
moreL302[10:58:10] <Izzy> mmmh, or less for
the same thing
L303[10:58:13] <Forecaster> the world is a cruel, cruel
place
<Forecaster> the world is a cruel, cruel
placeL304[10:58:16] <ff_66> and
100€ per month is optimistic
<ff_66> and
100€ per month is optimisticL305[10:58:32] <Forecaster> I just found an empty python
file named `sup`
<Forecaster> I just found an empty python
file named `sup`L306[10:58:38] <Forecaster> I do not remember why I made
that...
<Forecaster> I do not remember why I made
that...L307[10:58:39] <Corded> > <Izzy>
mmmh, or less for the same thing
L308[10:58:39] <ff_66>
same thing is not always good
<ff_66>
same thing is not always goodL309[10:58:50] <Izzy> but if you're
planning it now then it's fit for purpose
L310[10:58:59] <Amanda> Perfect is the
enemy of good
L311[10:59:10] <Izzy> that won't change -
well, unless intel blows up more chips, I guess
L312[11:00:00] <ff_66> and
if i work for 100€ per month while i'm studying then i can just
throw away my 1650 and get a 5070
<ff_66> and
if i work for 100€ per month while i'm studying then i can just
throw away my 1650 and get a 5070L313[11:00:34] <Forecaster> just wait until you have to
earn money to buy cool stuff *and* pay for living expenses
also
<Forecaster> just wait until you have to
earn money to buy cool stuff *and* pay for living expenses
alsoL314[11:00:36] <Forecaster> you'll love it
<Forecaster> you'll love itL315[11:00:36] <ff_66> or
maybe 860, it depends on when i get the GPU
<ff_66> or
maybe 860, it depends on when i get the GPUL316[11:00:42] <ff_66> *
8060, it depends on when i get the GPU
<ff_66> *
8060, it depends on when i get the GPUL317[11:01:03] <Izzy> Forecaster: it
almost makes me wish I could go back
L318[11:01:22] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> just wait until you have to earn money to buy
cool stuff *a…
L319[11:01:22] <ff_66> if
i'm studying my parents would suely still pay me a bit for this
purpose
<ff_66> if
i'm studying my parents would suely still pay me a bit for this
purposeL320[11:01:22] <Izzy> but then I'd have to
give up my motor vehicle addiction and that will never do
L321[11:01:47] <Izzy> and stop buying
random cute things from aliexpress
L322[11:01:50] <ff_66>
*surely
<ff_66>
*surelyL323[11:02:04] <Forecaster> Don't call me shirley
<Forecaster> Don't call me shirleyL324[11:02:06] <Izzy> idk if I told anyone
about the robot tights but I found a dress to go with them today.
excited.
L325[11:02:17] <Amanda> Izzy: and unless
the climate is different in aus, good luck getting GAC
L326[11:02:38] <Amanda> Political
climate*
L327[11:03:00] <Forecaster> you mean tights that look
like a photoshop?
<Forecaster> you mean tights that look
like a photoshop?L328[11:03:03] <Izzy> GAC?
L329[11:03:12] <Amanda> (Gender-Affirming
care)
L330[11:03:15] <ff_66> a
photoshop ?
<ff_66> a
photoshop ?L331[11:03:34] <Izzy> oh. yeah no the
political climate is very different here
L332[11:03:37] <Izzy> informed consent
baybee
L333[11:04:05] <Izzy> Forecaster: https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/933d.jpg
L334[11:04:06] <Forecaster> a photoshop [job] yes
<Forecaster> a photoshop [job] yesL335[11:04:28] <Forecaster> that's less robot and more
doll I'd say
<Forecaster> that's less robot and more
doll I'd sayL336[11:04:49] <Izzy> Amanda: just this
week a law was changed in NSW that means I don't have to [redacted]
to change the gender marker on my birth certificate
L337[11:04:57] <Forecaster> when I googled it it came up
with this https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729854297036.png
<Forecaster> when I googled it it came up
with this https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729854297036.pngL338[11:05:12] <Izzy> damn that looks
awful
L339[11:05:55] <Forecaster> that's why I said
photoshop
<Forecaster> that's why I said
photoshopL340[11:06:17] <Forecaster> tough I did also pick the
worst looking image
<Forecaster> tough I did also pick the
worst looking imageL341[11:06:36] <Forecaster> these look decent https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729854395904.png
<Forecaster> these look decent https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729854395904.pngL342[11:07:37] <Izzy> looks kinda like
armour
L343[11:08:15] <Forecaster> they're titled `Robotic
Leggings`
<Forecaster> they're titled `Robotic
Leggings`L344[11:08:48] <Forecaster> also yeah, but that's kind of
what a robot wears isn't it
<Forecaster> also yeah, but that's kind of
what a robot wears isn't itL345[11:08:48] <Corded> > <Izzy>
looks kinda like armour
L346[11:08:48] <ff_66> POV
: Mekasuit
<ff_66> POV
: MekasuitL347[11:10:59] <Forecaster> bah, I didn't make a
requirements.txt for this project...
<Forecaster> bah, I didn't make a
requirements.txt for this project...L348[11:13:22] <ff_66>
also i say things about my parents but for example they say
"you only want to play, play, play" except :
<ff_66>
also i say things about my parents but for example they say
"you only want to play, play, play" except :L349[11:13:23] <ff_66> -
when i'm working on something they don't see it
<ff_66> -
when i'm working on something they don't see itL350[11:13:23] <ff_66> -
when i'm working and they see it they say nothing not because they
don't understand but because they don't think it will be a huge
project that could maybe change my life... (example : hacking a
clculator while complying with the frenc regulations)
<ff_66> -
when i'm working and they see it they say nothing not because they
don't understand but because they don't think it will be a huge
project that could maybe change my life... (example : hacking a
clculator while complying with the frenc regulations)L351[11:13:36] <ff_66> *
calculator while complying with the french regulations)
<ff_66> *
calculator while complying with the french regulations)L352[11:16:56] <ff_66>
that hack , if successful, could either allow me to sell it, and
maybe live from it
<ff_66>
that hack , if successful, could either allow me to sell it, and
maybe live from itL353[11:17:25] <ff_66> or
make casio pay me for not sell that if they don't want that
hack
<ff_66> or
make casio pay me for not sell that if they don't want that
hackL354[11:17:36] <ff_66> *
to not sell that if they don't want that hack
<ff_66> *
to not sell that if they don't want that hackL355[11:19:45] <Izzy> someone bring a pin,
his head's gonna burst
L356[11:20:02] <Forecaster> that creates such a mess
though
<Forecaster> that creates such a mess
thoughL357[11:20:51] <Corded> > <Izzy>
someone bring a pin, his head's gonna burst
L358[11:20:51] <ff_66> hey
! >:-O
<ff_66> hey
! >:-OL359[11:21:24] <ff_66> i
have the right to believe in my dreams
<ff_66> i
have the right to believe in my dreamsL360[11:24:51] <Amanda> oh nice,
past-amanda got today-amanda a present! (an album I pre-ordered is
up )
L361[11:25:26] <Izzy> is it
Whiplash?
L362[11:25:32] <Amanda> nah
L363[11:26:43] <Forecaster> is it not-Whiplash?
<Forecaster> is it not-Whiplash?L364[11:27:03] <Amanda> yes
L365[11:27:48] *
Amanda copies the music to her PDA for listening to
L366[11:27:59] <Amanda> %choose first;
dancy-waves or talky-waves
L367[11:27:59] <MichiBot> Amanda:
dancy-waves first
L368[11:29:08] <Forecaster> I was correct!
<Forecaster> I was correct!L369[11:29:12] <Forecaster> amazingh
<Forecaster> amazinghL370[11:29:13] <Forecaster> * amazing
<Forecaster> * amazingL371[11:31:03] <Izzy> oop, bed time
L372[11:31:14] <Forecaster> ohno
<Forecaster> ohnoL373[11:31:21] *
Amanda curls up atop Izzy, offers her some purrs
L374[11:31:28] *
Izzy pats :3
L375[11:31:48] <Amanda> :3
L376[11:32:32] <Amanda> Now to switch to
X11 again to update this factorio blueprint book, because for some
reason Wayland doesn't like a 2.6MiB clipboard copu?
L377[11:33:11] <Amanda> Oh good, it's
2.7MiB now
L378[11:41:07] <Forecaster> .1 can make a big difference
sometimes
<Forecaster> .1 can make a big difference
sometimesL379[11:46:05] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL380[11:46:05] <MichiBot> You drink a
light solarium potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a sloth pig
girl until they have a forked cyan potion.
L381[11:46:15] <Forecaster> dammit!
<Forecaster> dammit!L382[11:47:59] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> .1 can make a big difference sometimes
L383[11:47:59] <ff_66>
even on the weight scale ?
<ff_66>
even on the weight scale ?L384[11:48:13] <Forecaster> yep
<Forecaster> yepL385[11:48:23] <Forecaster> depends what you're weighing
though
<Forecaster> depends what you're weighing
thoughL386[11:48:41] <ff_66>
myself ?
<ff_66>
myself ?L387[11:49:03] <Forecaster> then no
<Forecaster> then noL388[11:49:23] <ff_66> it
stays good to round down sometimes :)
<ff_66> it
stays good to round down sometimes :)L389[11:50:06] <ff_66> and
what about 100g of sugar ?
<ff_66> and
what about 100g of sugar ?L390[11:50:10] <Izzy> it would make a big
difference to me!
L391[11:50:19] <Izzy> gaining 100g is a
big deal
L392[11:50:22] <Forecaster> you're supposed to be
sleeping
<Forecaster> you're supposed to be
sleepingL393[11:50:44] <Izzy> need to finish my
drink first
L394[11:51:31] <Corded> > <Izzy>
gaining 100g is a big deal
L395[11:51:31] <ff_66> i
mean 100.1g
<ff_66> i
mean 100.1gL396[11:51:46] <Izzy> I mean 100 grams, or
0.1kg
L397[11:51:57] <Izzy> <-- cannot gain
weight
L398[11:53:44] <Forecaster> what you need is an all-donut
diet
<Forecaster> what you need is an all-donut
dietL399[12:13:05] <ff_66>
uuuuhhhhh help
<ff_66>
uuuuhhhhh helpL400[12:14:40] <ff_66>
there is someone on skribble who is for an austrian person who
lived in the '40s
<ff_66>
there is someone on skribble who is for an austrian person who
lived in the '40sL401[12:18:29] <Forecaster> ...
<Forecaster> ...L402[12:18:47] <ff_66> yes
it's what you think
<ff_66> yes
it's what you thinkL403[12:19:03] <ff_66> oh
no a second one arrived
<ff_66> oh
no a second one arrivedL405[12:27:50] <Forecaster> What...
<Forecaster> What...L406[12:28:48] <Kristopher38> what
<Kristopher38> whatL407[12:30:44] <Forecaster> I've never had a python
library cause a popup before...
<Forecaster> I've never had a python
library cause a popup before...L408[12:32:39] <Forecaster> well, it's a good thing I was
going to switch to an html interface anyway
<Forecaster> well, it's a good thing I was
going to switch to an html interface anywayL409[12:48:24] <Forecaster> but that'll probably be a
task for next week
<Forecaster> but that'll probably be a
task for next weekL410[12:50:18] <ff_66>
anyone know any SH4 decompiler ?
<ff_66>
anyone know any SH4 decompiler ?L411[12:50:35] <ff_66> or
at least disassembler ?
<ff_66> or
at least disassembler ?L412[12:51:42] <ff_66> i
want to make a legal custom firmware for my calculator which could
potentially get better performance and battery life
<ff_66> i
want to make a legal custom firmware for my calculator which could
potentially get better performance and battery lifeL413[12:53:45] <ff_66>
theoretically doable but i need first to figure out how does the
normal OS accesses the keyboard, the screen, the ports and how it
starts up...
<ff_66>
theoretically doable but i need first to figure out how does the
normal OS accesses the keyboard, the screen, the ports and how it
starts up...L414[12:57:14] <ff_66> i
know where the code is, but i don't even know... where it
starts
<ff_66> i
know where the code is, but i don't even know... where it
startsL415[12:57:29] <ff_66>
also another reason
<ff_66>
also another reasonL416[12:58:38] <RedstoneParkour> sh4?
<RedstoneParkour> sh4?L417[12:58:49] <RedstoneParkour> what calculator are you
using?
<RedstoneParkour> what calculator are you
using?L418[13:03:10] <Forecaster> have you tried googling
it?
<Forecaster> have you tried googling
it?L419[13:05:22] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> sh4?
L420[13:05:23] <ff_66>
yes, the same processor as in the Sega Dreamcast, yes
<ff_66>
yes, the same processor as in the Sega Dreamcast, yesL421[13:05:39] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> what calculator are you using?
L422[13:05:39] <ff_66> a
Casio Graph 35+e II
<ff_66> a
Casio Graph 35+e IIL423[13:05:43] <RedstoneParkour> oh its casio
<RedstoneParkour> oh its casioL424[13:06:04] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> have you tried googling it?
L425[13:06:05] <ff_66> yes
but they are all pretty... experimental
<ff_66> yes
but they are all pretty... experimentalL426[13:06:42] <ff_66>
i've got the official dev kit (yes you can download it apparently)
but it's got no disassembler
<ff_66>
i've got the official dev kit (yes you can download it apparently)
but it's got no disassemblerL427[13:07:01] <ff_66>
unless you're debugging YOUR application, not the OS itself
<ff_66>
unless you're debugging YOUR application, not the OS itselfL428[13:07:19] <RedstoneParkour> well
<RedstoneParkour> wellL429[13:07:39] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> oh its casio
L430[13:07:39] <ff_66> TI
have better screens, but Casio have literal game consoles
inside
<ff_66> TI
have better screens, but Casio have literal game consoles
insideL431[13:07:58] <ff_66> on
a poor monochrome low-res screen
<ff_66> on
a poor monochrome low-res screenL432[13:08:15] <RedstoneParkour> you
<RedstoneParkour> youL433[13:08:23] <RedstoneParkour> you're asking for a
disassembler?*
<RedstoneParkour> you're asking for a
disassembler?*L434[13:08:50] <ff_66> yes
to see how the OS works and then build a custom OS out of my
resulting knowledge
<ff_66> yes
to see how the OS works and then build a custom OS out of my
resulting knowledgeL435[13:09:20] <RedstoneParkour> there's binutils for
SH4
<RedstoneParkour> there's binutils for
SH4L437[13:09:34] <ff_66>
potentially with Wi-Fi but still legal
<ff_66>
potentially with Wi-Fi but still legalL438[13:09:53] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> https://git.planet-casio.com/Lephenixnoir/sh-elf-binutils
L439[13:09:53] <ff_66>
thanks
<ff_66>
thanksL440[13:12:27] <ff_66>
but... what command is for disassembling ? i never really used
these tools outside of an IDE...
<ff_66>
but... what command is for disassembling ? i never really used
these tools outside of an IDE...L441[13:14:29] <RedstoneParkour> seems like you use
`objdump` for that
<RedstoneParkour> seems like you use
`objdump` for thatL442[13:14:42] <ff_66>
oh.
<ff_66>
oh.L443[13:58:15] <ff_66>
ummm Izzy ? You said that i should get the highest memory quantity
right ? what if i just pick 64GB instad of 96GB ? I would have much
more GB/€...
<ff_66>
ummm Izzy ? You said that i should get the highest memory quantity
right ? what if i just pick 64GB instad of 96GB ? I would have much
more GB/€...L444[14:01:41] <stephanj> what do you want
to do?
L445[14:01:56] <stephanj> normally even
32GB is more than enough, you can always upgrade later
L446[14:04:10] <ff_66> i
want to play BeamNG.drive and get a futureproofed build... but not
overkill !
<ff_66> i
want to play BeamNG.drive and get a futureproofed build... but not
overkill !L447[14:04:24] <ff_66>
ideally 6400MT/s
<ff_66>
ideally 6400MT/sL448[14:05:35] <ff_66>
half of the budget is spent on currently highly demanded products,
but the RAM is still a quarter of the total price of the PC
<ff_66>
half of the budget is spent on currently highly demanded products,
but the RAM is still a quarter of the total price of the PCL449[14:06:56] <stephanj> my advice is
unless you have unlimited budget, go reasonable. 16GB? for a new
build is baseline, one step above is 32GB, more than enough. 64 is
like run two firefox instances with 200+ video tabs open, minecraft
with 16gb memory alloc and another big game next to it.
L450[14:07:16] <stephanj> for what? 200+€
more? 96GB... you are not gonna utlize in todays time
L451[14:07:31] <ff_66> ok
fine 64GB
<ff_66> ok
fine 64GBL452[14:07:41] <ff_66>
maybe 4x16GB ?
<ff_66>
maybe 4x16GB ?L453[14:07:56] <stephanj> maybe go 2x 16
and then stick in another 2x 16 as needed
L454[14:08:04] <ff_66> or
should I use 2x32GB ?
<ff_66> or
should I use 2x32GB ?L455[14:08:27] <stephanj> from my
experience you best utilize all slots if best performance.
L456[14:08:36] <stephanj> but not f.e.
2x32 and 2x16
L457[14:09:09] <stephanj> have a look at
the prices mostly
L458[14:09:35] <stephanj> also remember
24/48GB is a fairly new memory size format
L459[14:17:15] <Kristopher38> Get 2x16, 64gig is
overkill
<Kristopher38> Get 2x16, 64gig is
overkillL460[14:19:20] <ff_66>
well, 48GB for 160€ seems good
<ff_66>
well, 48GB for 160€ seems goodL461[14:19:32] <ff_66>
7600MT/s
<ff_66>
7600MT/sL462[14:19:44] <ff_66>
+RGB (who cares)
<ff_66>
+RGB (who cares)L463[14:20:42] <ff_66>
9.5ns of FWL
<ff_66>
9.5ns of FWLL464[14:21:51] <ff_66> the
only downside is that to run that fast it requires higher voltages
than the recommended max of 1.4V
<ff_66> the
only downside is that to run that fast it requires higher voltages
than the recommended max of 1.4VL465[14:28:07] <ff_66>
well, with the worst interests you could get for a loan, you could
certainly do 240€ in 4x with my build, which is... completely
ok
<ff_66>
well, with the worst interests you could get for a loan, you could
certainly do 240€ in 4x with my build, which is... completely
okL466[14:32:08] <ff_66> i
can perfectly get half of the PC for xmas
<ff_66> i
can perfectly get half of the PC for xmasL467[14:33:45] <ff_66>
hummmm... what about the PSU ? i consume a max of 510W and i will
buy a 850W 80+ Platinum PSU but...is 1000W Overkill or Futureproof
?
<ff_66>
hummmm... what about the PSU ? i consume a max of 510W and i will
buy a 850W 80+ Platinum PSU but...is 1000W Overkill or Futureproof
?L468[14:38:36] <Corded> >
<Forecaster>
L469[14:38:36] <Spider
EveryOS> Can you downgrade to a version from before it was
paywalled? "has gone pro" seems to imply that it was once
free
<Spider
EveryOS> Can you downgrade to a version from before it was
paywalled? "has gone pro" seems to imply that it was once
freeL470[14:42:54] <Forecaster> Yeah
<Forecaster> YeahL471[14:43:04] <Forecaster> This was introduced in
version 5
<Forecaster> This was introduced in
version 5L472[14:43:43] <Forecaster> I don't really like the
library much anyway nowadays
<Forecaster> I don't really like the
library much anyway nowadaysL473[14:44:08] <Forecaster> It's great if you need a
quick and dirty gui with next to no effort though
<Forecaster> It's great if you need a
quick and dirty gui with next to no effort thoughL474[15:11:49] <S3>
@ff_66Generally, you want your continuous power output to be about
50% of the load of the power supply. You want the power supply to
obviously put out more power than your peak power output.
<S3>
@ff_66Generally, you want your continuous power output to be about
50% of the load of the power supply. You want the power supply to
obviously put out more power than your peak power output.L475[15:12:21] <S3> So if
you think that if you're running your machine hard at 400 watts for
8 hours at a time gaming, you probably want an 800/850W PSU
<S3> So if
you think that if you're running your machine hard at 400 watts for
8 hours at a time gaming, you probably want an 800/850W PSUL476[15:12:36] <S3> Note
that 400 wouldn't be your maximum you'd ever pull
<S3> Note
that 400 wouldn't be your maximum you'd ever pullL477[15:13:19] <S3> The
reason for this has to do with not PC PSUs but just the physics of
power supply design in general and where efficiency and saturation
generally lies.
<S3> The
reason for this has to do with not PC PSUs but just the physics of
power supply design in general and where efficiency and saturation
generally lies.L478[15:14:59] <S3> It's
the same thing for like audio equipment. I have 500W continuous
power rated speakers, I'm using a 1KW amplifier output for
them.
<S3> It's
the same thing for like audio equipment. I have 500W continuous
power rated speakers, I'm using a 1KW amplifier output for
them.L479[15:16:00] <S3> I
could run my amo at about 50% all day without ever worrying about
damaging the speakers, and honestly that's pretty loud for those
speakers with the impedence they have.
<S3> I
could run my amo at about 50% all day without ever worrying about
damaging the speakers, and honestly that's pretty loud for those
speakers with the impedence they have.L480[15:30:29] <Amanda> %choose waves; em
or pressure
L481[15:30:29] <MichiBot> Amanda:
pressure waves
L482[15:30:35] <Amanda> Hrm. Nah
L483[15:32:31] <S3> Amanda
you gotta use the wave waves
<S3> Amanda
you gotta use the wave wavesL484[15:32:37] <S3> The
wavy ones
<S3> The
wavy onesL485[15:35:59] <Amanda> %choose fix first;
iron or stone
L486[15:36:00] <MichiBot> Amanda: stone
fix first
L487[15:36:12] <Amanda> Hrm... Probably
shouldn't do that
L488[15:36:20] <Amanda> Iron is nessary
for ammo...
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L490[16:59:01] <CompanionCube> ff_66:
google suggests ghidra can do sh4?
L491[17:13:11] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL492[17:13:11] <MichiBot> Yow! Vaur! You
beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of 5 hours, 18 minutes and
52 seconds (By 2 hours, 22 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L493[17:13:12] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 7 hours, 41 minutes and 15 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.01422 (0.00237 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#3. Need 0.25497898 more points to pass Forecaster!
L494[17:52:08] ⇦
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died. baiiiii)
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L496[17:52:46] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL497[17:52:46] <MichiBot> You drink a
salty electrum potion (New!). Vaur remembers an unimportant
appointment.
L499[17:52:55] <Forecaster> neat
<Forecaster> neatL500[17:53:23] <Forecaster> FUE5 is a Factorio 3D
visualizer made in Unreal 5
<Forecaster> FUE5 is a Factorio 3D
visualizer made in Unreal 5L501[17:53:48] <Forecaster> it can only import a factory
to fly around it, there is no gameplay
<Forecaster> it can only import a factory
to fly around it, there is no gameplayL502[18:21:40] <S3>
LOL
<S3>
LOLL503[18:21:56] <S3> I was
going to say, this looks like factorioified satisfactory
<S3> I was
going to say, this looks like factorioified satisfactoryL504[20:12:14] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
download that album you bought
L505[20:36:37] <Forecaster> _downloads Amanda's
album_
<Forecaster> _downloads Amanda's
album_L506[20:41:26] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL507[20:41:27] <MichiBot> You drink a
forbidden white potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to use
"%shell".
L508[20:51:18] <Forecaster> I will resist, because it is
forbidden
<Forecaster> I will resist, because it is
forbiddenL509[21:00:23] ⇦
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seconds)
L510[21:31:40] <Ocawesome101> @ff_66 for what it's worth,
I built a PC with a last gen Ryzen and I don't see myself upgrading
for a decade or more with the kind of stuff I do. (Unless BeamNG
gets more demanding. I would upgrade for that.)
<Ocawesome101> @ff_66 for what it's worth,
I built a PC with a last gen Ryzen and I don't see myself upgrading
for a decade or more with the kind of stuff I do. (Unless BeamNG
gets more demanding. I would upgrade for that.)L511[21:31:50] <Ocawesome101> (5800X3D)
<Ocawesome101> (5800X3D)L512[21:31:58] <Ocawesome101> Izzy: I love my Honda fit
for this reason
<Ocawesome101> Izzy: I love my Honda fit
for this reasonL513[21:32:12] <Ocawesome101> Small, light, slow but
zippy, stickshift, handles great
<Ocawesome101> Small, light, slow but
zippy, stickshift, handles greatL514[21:32:25] <Izzy> yeees
L515[21:35:32] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> @ff_66 for what it's worth, I built a PC with
a last gen Ry…
L516[21:35:32] <ff_66>
Computers are evolving fast. 10 years ago you had no RTX and AI
stuff wasn't everywhere
<ff_66>
Computers are evolving fast. 10 years ago you had no RTX and AI
stuff wasn't everywhereL517[21:35:34] <Ocawesome101> As much as I loved my
Focus, the Fit is a better car
<Ocawesome101> As much as I loved my
Focus, the Fit is a better carL518[21:35:46] <Ocawesome101> ff_66: I don't use ray
tracing or AI
<Ocawesome101> ff_66: I don't use ray
tracing or AIL519[21:35:52] <Izzy> having a vehicle you
don't enjoy seems existentially depressing to me
L520[21:36:01] <Izzy> if you have a
vehicle at all you likely *need* one
L521[21:36:23] <Izzy> being forced to
drive something boring sounds soul-crushing
L522[21:36:28] <Ocawesome101> Real
<Ocawesome101> RealL523[21:36:57] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> ff_66: I don't use ray tracing or AI
L524[21:36:58] <ff_66>
Still, windows is only 30 years old and the taskbar 20 for
example
<ff_66>
Still, windows is only 30 years old and the taskbar 20 for
exampleL525[21:37:17] <ff_66> Oh
wait add 10 to both
<ff_66> Oh
wait add 10 to bothL526[21:37:25] <Ocawesome101> That's one of the reasons I
want my next car to be an Aptera, because it's quirky. the Fit
should last long enough for them to be in production
<Ocawesome101> That's one of the reasons I
want my next car to be an Aptera, because it's quirky. the Fit
should last long enough for them to be in productionL527[21:37:34] <Izzy> last computer lasted
10 years. this computer will last 10 years (also 5800X3D).
L528[21:38:07] <Ocawesome101> Yeah consider how usable a
machine from 2014 is today, compared to how usable something from
2004 was in 2014
<Ocawesome101> Yeah consider how usable a
machine from 2014 is today, compared to how usable something from
2004 was in 2014L529[21:38:10] <Izzy> I'm pretty happy
with the Swift and see no compelling reason to replace it, I'll
probably just keep it on the road indefinitely until something I
want more comes along
L530[21:38:28] <Ocawesome101> ... then compare that to
how usable something from 1994 was in 2004
<Ocawesome101> ... then compare that to
how usable something from 1994 was in 2004L531[21:39:04] <Izzy> moore's law is long
dead
L532[21:39:13] <Ocawesome101> I want the Fit to last 200k
miles for me. It has 127k currently and since its a Honda I think
I'll have no trouble with that
<Ocawesome101> I want the Fit to last 200k
miles for me. It has 127k currently and since its a Honda I think
I'll have no trouble with thatL533[21:39:29] <Corded> > <Izzy>
last computer lasted 10 years. this computer will last 10 y…
L534[21:39:29] <ff_66>
Mine has been spoiled. It was OC capable, but has never been used
like so. It just never heated above 50°c with no maintenance or
cleaning. I wish i could go back.
<ff_66>
Mine has been spoiled. It was OC capable, but has never been used
like so. It just never heated above 50°c with no maintenance or
cleaning. I wish i could go back.L535[21:39:33] <Ocawesome101> So long as it doesn't start
rusting.
<Ocawesome101> So long as it doesn't start
rusting.L536[21:39:37] <Izzy> swift's got uhhh
310, 315kkm on it
L537[21:40:04] <Izzy> https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/0e12.jpg
L538[21:40:05] <Ocawesome101> So about 194k miles. Not
bad
<Ocawesome101> So about 194k miles. Not
badL539[21:40:38] <Izzy> it's fun. my grandad
has very mixed feelings about being in the car with me
L540[21:40:42] <Ocawesome101> I'm especially pleased
because I have the 2nd gen Fit (2009), which is reportedly the best
driver's car
<Ocawesome101> I'm especially pleased
because I have the 2nd gen Fit (2009), which is reportedly the best
driver's carL541[21:40:54] <Ocawesome101> Hahahaha so does everyone I
drive around. Though I've been told I'm a good driver
<Ocawesome101> Hahahaha so does everyone I
drive around. Though I've been told I'm a good driverL542[21:41:16] <Izzy> it's just my grandad
in my case
L543[21:41:23] <Izzy> I'm used to bikes so
I take corners fast
L544[21:41:43] <Izzy> got those fancy
low-profile tires, the swift can handle it
L545[21:42:40] <Ocawesome101> Fast corners are fun
<Ocawesome101> Fast corners are funL546[21:42:51] <Ocawesome101> Sadly in this part of the
Midwest its mostly straight flat roads
<Ocawesome101> Sadly in this part of the
Midwest its mostly straight flat roadsL547[21:42:59] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> Fast corners are fun
L548[21:42:59] <ff_66>
Especially when you lose traction
<ff_66>
Especially when you lose tractionL549[21:43:08] <Ocawesome101> Not so much in a real
car
<Ocawesome101> Not so much in a real
carL550[21:43:32] <Izzy> upside of this part
of australia: lots of ... hill roads
L551[21:43:38] <ff_66> It
depends on the speed you're talking about
<ff_66> It
depends on the speed you're talking aboutL552[21:43:55] <Izzy> https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/cd52.jpg
L553[21:44:15] <ff_66>
200kph : you're dead on most roads
<ff_66>
200kph : you're dead on most roadsL554[21:44:34] <Izzy> bold of you to
assume any of my vehicles can do 200
L555[21:44:41] <Izzy> actually the swift
might be able to
L556[21:45:00] <Izzy> but the VT250 tops
out at 180 and the ZZR250 160, on paper. so lower in
practice.
L557[21:45:26] <Izzy> no I engage in the
slightly deranged behaviour of sticking to exactly the speed limit
all the time
L558[21:45:32] <ff_66>
Well in 2012 a minivan was able to easily reach 190 sooooo
<ff_66>
Well in 2012 a minivan was able to easily reach 190 soooooL559[21:46:49] <ff_66> If
a 2.0L diesel can beat a swift then...
<ff_66> If
a 2.0L diesel can beat a swift then...L560[21:47:05] <Izzy> the 2005 swift has a
1.5 NA engine :)
L561[21:47:14] <Izzy> makes about
100hp
L562[21:47:30] <ff_66> And
i'm not talking about the V6 :)
<ff_66> And
i'm not talking about the V6 :)L563[21:48:03] <Corded> > <Izzy>
makes about 100hp
L564[21:48:03] <ff_66> The
diesel 2L engine does twice the power in a twice as big car
<ff_66> The
diesel 2L engine does twice the power in a twice as big carL565[21:48:14] <Izzy> I think you're
misunderstanding the appeal of small vehicles
L566[21:48:35] <Izzy> going fast is
generally secondary to their handling
L567[21:48:38] <Ocawesome101> A slow small car is pretty
much the most fun you can have, hands down
<Ocawesome101> A slow small car is pretty
much the most fun you can have, hands downL568[21:48:47] <Ocawesome101> As long as it handles well
enough
<Ocawesome101> As long as it handles well
enoughL569[21:48:50] <Izzy> Ocawesome101: a slow
small bike is better
L570[21:48:58] <ff_66>
Downsizing engines is nad though
<ff_66>
Downsizing engines is nad thoughL571[21:49:01] <Ocawesome101> Cars are safer
<Ocawesome101> Cars are saferL572[21:49:06] <ff_66>
Bad*
<ff_66>
Bad*L573[21:49:08] <Izzy> give me that 14kRPM
redline
L574[21:49:14] <Ocawesome101> Can't argue with that
<Ocawesome101> Can't argue with thatL575[21:49:20] <Izzy> throwing it around
corners
L576[21:49:33] <Izzy> super responsive
throttle
L577[21:49:34] <Ocawesome101> my Fit's 1.5L engine makes
~115hp supposedly
<Ocawesome101> my Fit's 1.5L engine makes
~115hp supposedlyL578[21:49:41] <Corded> > <Izzy>
give me that 14kRPM redline
L579[21:49:41] <ff_66> It
will sound like a b1cuum cleaner, who will buy that ?
<ff_66> It
will sound like a b1cuum cleaner, who will buy that ?L580[21:49:50] <Izzy> me! give me the
angry swarm of bees
L581[21:49:56] <Ocawesome101> Believe it or not there are
people who like it
<Ocawesome101> Believe it or not there are
people who like itL582[21:49:57] <ff_66>
Vacuum*
<ff_66>
Vacuum*L583[21:50:09] <Ocawesome101> I think 4 cylinders in
general _can_ sound really good
<Ocawesome101> I think 4 cylinders in
general _can_ sound really goodL584[21:50:26] <ff_66> 6
cynliders are the best
<ff_66> 6
cynliders are the bestL585[21:50:29] <Ocawesome101> i've liked both of the ones
i've driven. Subarus are a whole different beast and sound
heavenly
<Ocawesome101> i've liked both of the ones
i've driven. Subarus are a whole different beast and sound
heavenlyL586[21:50:44] <Ocawesome101> V6's have an unpleasant
rasp at higher revs in a lot of cases
<Ocawesome101> V6's have an unpleasant
rasp at higher revs in a lot of casesL587[21:51:06] <Ocawesome101> I believe e.g. the Fiero v6
can sound pretty good though
<Ocawesome101> I believe e.g. the Fiero v6
can sound pretty good thoughL588[21:51:06] <ff_66> You
have the least amount of vibrations though
<ff_66> You
have the least amount of vibrations thoughL589[21:51:11] <Ocawesome101> not in a v6
<Ocawesome101> not in a v6L590[21:51:15] <Ocawesome101> a straight six, yes
<Ocawesome101> a straight six, yesL591[21:51:26] <Ocawesome101> subaru flat-4's are also
naturally balanced and very very smooth
<Ocawesome101> subaru flat-4's are also
naturally balanced and very very smoothL592[21:51:34] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> a straight six, yes
L593[21:51:34] <ff_66>
Truck engine moment
<ff_66>
Truck engine momentL594[21:51:38] <Izzy> I want a sub-2L
V6
L595[21:51:44] <Izzy> give me the
6A10
L596[21:51:46] <Ocawesome101> my Fit's i4 is quite smooth
actually. At idle you can barely tell it's running
<Ocawesome101> my Fit's i4 is quite smooth
actually. At idle you can barely tell it's runningL597[21:51:54] <ff_66>
What about boxer 6s ?
<ff_66>
What about boxer 6s ?L598[21:52:05] <ff_66> The
porsche 911 ?
<ff_66> The
porsche 911 ?L599[21:52:17] <Ocawesome101> No idea how those fare but
i want to drive a flat-6 subaru with a manual
<Ocawesome101> No idea how those fare but
i want to drive a flat-6 subaru with a manualL600[21:52:36] <Corded> >
<ff_66> Truck engine moment
L601[21:52:36] <Ocawesome101> A lot of volvos and BMWs
use them
<Ocawesome101> A lot of volvos and BMWs
use themL602[21:52:47] <Izzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuqISxqyd78
L603[21:52:49] <Ocawesome101> some mercedes. some
lexus.
<Ocawesome101> some mercedes. some
lexus.L604[21:52:50] <Izzy> skip to about 3
minutes
L605[21:52:52] <Izzy> and listen to
it
L606[21:52:54] <Izzy> beautiful
L607[21:52:59] <ff_66>
Including volvo trucls
<ff_66>
Including volvo truclsL608[21:53:33] <ff_66> Oh
shii i need to charge my phone
<ff_66> Oh
shii i need to charge my phoneL609[21:54:00] <ff_66>
Guess i'll continue tomorrow...
<ff_66>
Guess i'll continue tomorrow...L610[22:16:12]
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L612[22:16:29] <Izzy> have you tried doing
a perfect clutchless shift in a sequential transmission?
L613[22:17:29] <Izzy> where I used to work
was on a road off an awful intersection, and I got Quite Good at
going second, third, fourth, fifth without using the clutch
L614[22:17:48] <Izzy> was that or get run
over by a truck :p
L615[22:18:37] <Ocawesome101> never driven a
sequential
<Ocawesome101> never driven a
sequentialL616[22:19:26] <Ocawesome101> in cars I think they're
usually only in racecars
<Ocawesome101> in cars I think they're
usually only in racecarsL617[22:21:36] <Izzy> homologation
specials, sometimes
L618[22:21:41] <Izzy> there were a few
lancers with DCT
L619[22:21:49] <Izzy> few Golfs too
L620[22:22:43] <Ocawesome101> DCT != sequential i
thought
<Ocawesome101> DCT != sequential i
thoughtL621[22:22:51] <Izzy> DCT is two
sequentials welded together
L622[22:23:22] <Izzy> clutchless shifting
in a normal sequential is an acquired skill, but the default in a
DCT
L623[22:23:34] <Izzy> whole point of the
DCT in the first place
L624[22:24:00] <Ocawesome101> DCTs are also usually
computer controlled, no?
<Ocawesome101> DCTs are also usually
computer controlled, no?L625[22:24:06] <Izzy> generally yeah
L626[22:24:26] <Izzy> with a normal
sequential you have to blip up the throttle a bit then let it off
entirely, and while the drivetrain has no load on it you can
shift
L627[22:29:50] <Ocawesome101> that matches my
impression
<Ocawesome101> that matches my
impressionL628[22:52:13] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> DCTs are also usually computer controlled,
no?
L629[22:52:14] <Spider
EveryOS> What does DCT stand for in this context
<Spider
EveryOS> What does DCT stand for in this contextL630[22:52:14] <Spider
EveryOS> (The only "DCT" I know of is the pain called
Discrete Cosine Transform)
<Spider
EveryOS> (The only "DCT" I know of is the pain called
Discrete Cosine Transform)L631[22:52:24] <Izzy> dual-clutch
transmission
L632[22:52:34] <Corded> > <Izzy>
dual-clutch transmission
L633[22:52:34] <Spider
EveryOS> Thanks
<Spider
EveryOS> ThanksL634[22:52:50] <Izzy> two sequential
manuals welded together, one doing odd gears and one doing even, so
you don't actually have to operate the clutch to shift up or
down
L635[22:54:01] <Spider
EveryOS> 👍
<Spider
EveryOS> 👍L636[22:55:12] <Amanda> @Forecaster enjoy
the album "12 hours of cat meowing and screaming for
pets"
L637[22:57:49] <Lily>
average cat experience
<Lily>
average cat experienceL638[23:01:09] ⇦
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L639[23:18:22] <Amanda> So that's
fun.
L640[23:19:06] <Amanda> I'm pretty sure I
made a bug in my book management script where it'll delete lines
from its history file every time you trigger completion
L641[23:22:05] <Amanda> I really need to
use something other than sed "$d" huh
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