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L1[00:05:44] <Kolb​enik> and btw i create a whole dns server just for an minecraft project xD
L2[00:14:26] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_heisenbridge/media/camnet.site/vNdrAvzgvrSYWoQcmnkBoOhb/0zfpIQnF0lM/clip.mp4
L3[00:15:08] <Amanda> That's much shorter than it should have been
L4[00:15:26] <Amanda> It's been attacking that same wall for like 5min
L5[00:15:46] <Amanda> And the. Robot just keeps going back to fix it
L6[00:44:00] <Amanda> @Lizzy I think I just realized why the trains are so jank. When the provider is full a train will be summoned, but that doesn't mean a requester is empty yet, which is when it requests
L7[00:44:26] <Amanda> So it'll idle at thep provider
L8[00:44:41] <Kolb​enik> annnnd btw is it possible that i can use SMTP on an OC computer? cause i want to send emails and i cant use the api from my own email server for that
L9[01:48:08] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L10[01:48:08] <MichiBot> Wut! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 13 minutes and 11 seconds (By 53 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L11[01:48:09] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 6 minutes and 44 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00267 (0.00089 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L12[02:33:24] <Kolb​enik> Sooooooo afte hours i got a working DNS-Server!
L13[02:33:42] <Kolb​enik> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729737221778.png
L14[02:34:00] <Kolb​enik> * On the client
L15[02:34:07] <Kolb​enik> On the server https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729737246758.png
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L26[05:02:18] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L27[05:02:18] <MichiBot> By my throth! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 3 hours, 6 minutes and 44 seconds (By 7 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L28[05:02:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 14 minutes and 10 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00048 (0.00012 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.29080197 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L29[05:29:41] <Corded> > <Kolb​enik> but is there a limit how much relays can be in between the …
L30[05:29:41] <Redston​eParkour> 5
L31[05:54:36] <Izzy> protip when network building: connect all the relays in a given broadcast domain on one cable
L32[05:54:56] <Izzy> hang your rack servers off that cable, to ensure minimum latency
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L37[07:41:22] <Liizzi​i-chan> Amanda: yeah, it's a bit whack. I have ideas for a system to implement later on. Will do it tonight if you're up for playing again (when I get home from work around 17:30 BST/GMT+1
L38[08:34:09] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L39[08:34:09] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 10 seconds (By 17 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L40[08:34:10] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.68916324, Position #2 Need 0.28380197 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L41[08:50:46] <Li​ly> I'm SORRY??? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729759846342.png
L42[08:50:48] <Li​ly> *FIFTY???*
L43[08:52:42] <Mi​ko> this mod makes me wanna get a Compaq LTE 5280 for the aestetics
L44[09:19:17] <Jas​onS> Could it be a typo of 50M?
L45[09:20:00] <Lizzy> they can probably do it cause of the 3 day lifetime
L46[09:21:10] <Jas​onS> Yeah
L47[09:24:46] <Forec​aster> oh hey, my holes arrived
L48[09:24:54] <Forec​aster> now I need to make a hole to put one of the holes in
L49[09:33:18] <kim​apr> %tonk
L50[09:33:18] <MichiBot> Woooo! kim​apr! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 59 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L51[09:33:19] <MichiBot> kimapr's new record is 59 minutes and 9 seconds! kimapr also gained 0.00099 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.60156393 more points to pass Va​ur!
L52[09:34:09] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> I'm SORRY???
L53[09:34:09] <kim​apr> Service for people who don't know rsync exists ..
L54[09:34:22] <Forec​aster> things exist?!
L55[09:34:35] <Forec​aster> that sounds illegal...
L56[09:50:16] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> gives Kolbenik Minitel
L57[09:50:17] <Kolb​enik> What is that?
L58[09:50:34] <Izzy> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel
L59[09:50:49] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> 5
L60[09:50:49] <Kolb​enik> Can I change it?
L61[09:52:24] <Redston​eParkour> likely
L62[09:52:43] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> protip when network building: connect all the relays in a g…
L63[09:52:43] <Kolb​enik> What should this look like?
L64[09:53:18] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> likely
L65[09:53:18] <Kolb​enik> But where? I could not find that I think
L66[09:53:38] <Redston​eParkour> one 'bus' cable that reaches everywhere with relays hooked up to it with one computer per relay
L67[09:54:14] <Izzy> you can do more than one computer per relay, but you don't want more than two hops between any two computers
L68[09:54:15] <Redston​eParkour> and racks are directly connected and have the network connection of all servers pointing into that line as well
L69[09:54:31] <Redston​eParkour> oh yeah forgot relays have 4 sides
L70[09:54:35] <Izzy> six!
L71[09:54:41] <Izzy> if you're crazy enough you can use all of them
L72[09:54:47] <Redston​eParkour> the top and bottom also work?
L73[09:54:51] <Izzy> yup
L74[09:54:59] <Redston​eParkour> *takes notes*
L75[09:55:12] <Izzy> you'll need to dye the cables nearest the switch to make it work well though
L76[09:55:23] <Izzy> and the EnderIO conduits are flaky in such situations
L77[09:55:23] <Redston​eParkour> why?
L78[09:55:25] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> you can do more than one computer per relay, but you don't …
L79[09:55:25] <Kolb​enik> I wanted to use one relay per room and also have a connection to another dimension
L80[09:55:58] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> you'll need to dye the cables nearest the switch to make it…
L81[09:55:59] <Kolb​enik> Yu can dye them?
L82[09:56:02] <Redston​eParkour> oh for a connection to another dimension you can stick a linked card into one of the relays
L83[09:56:24] <Kolb​enik> Yes I already tested this
L84[09:56:28] <Izzy> I tend to trunk 16 connections (3 relays + the uplink) through one EnderIO OC conduit network, so I had to dye the cables to keep them separated until they could be suitably be broken out to be reliable
L85[09:56:38] <Redston​eParkour> does add another hop
L86[09:56:55] <Izzy> linked cards use a lot of power
L87[09:57:09] <Izzy> might be worth putting it in a server to do some more intelligent routing
L88[09:57:35] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> linked cards use a lot of power
L89[09:57:35] <Kolb​enik> It is a RP world do we build in creative and then we want to play it
L90[09:58:00] <Redston​eParkour> also wdym by '3 relays and 1 uplink'?
L91[09:58:06] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> might be worth putting it in a server to do some more intel…
L92[09:58:06] <Kolb​enik> Yeah but I don't want to code a proxy server as well, maybe I do it
L93[09:58:26] * Izzy gives Kolbenik Minitel again
L94[09:58:39] <Kolb​enik> What is that?
L95[09:58:48] <Redston​eParkour> network stack
L96[09:58:56] <Izzy> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel
L97[09:59:48] <Izzy> so an EnderIO OC conduit has 16 channels, right. now if every switch is connected on one side to one channel, channel zero, then there's 15 more channels. each relay has six sides, so you can connect five computers and one backbone
L98[10:03:04] <Redston​eParkour> ah
L99[10:03:20] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel
L100[10:03:20] <Kolb​enik> Nah.. idk I have to use that
L101[10:03:20] <Kolb​enik> Aaand i already made my DNS server work soo it should be not that hard to make a proxy
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L104[10:10:19] <Corded> > <kim​apr> Service for people who don't know rsync exists ..
L105[10:10:19] <Li​ly> I mean, for uploading or downloading from a server, rsync works well
L106[10:10:32] <Li​ly> But not for regular file transfer
L107[10:10:53] <Li​ly> I actually have `scp` aliased to rsync lol
L108[10:10:57] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> But not for regular file transfer
L109[10:10:57] <kim​apr> i often use it for that..
L110[10:11:02] <Li​ly> Between two people?
L111[10:11:12] <kim​apr> Ah yes, nope
L112[10:11:14] <Li​ly> Yeah
L113[10:11:18] <Li​ly> Sorry, I should've clarified
L114[10:11:33] <kim​apr> This is where i just put the stuff on my own web server
L115[10:12:34] <Izzy> tangentially, scp now works over sftp
L116[10:12:35] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> so an EnderIO OC conduit has 16 channels, right. now if eve…
L117[10:12:35] <Li​ly> Izzy: How do you switch between the channel
L118[10:12:48] <Izzy> so it's not a security problem like it once was
L119[10:12:57] <Li​ly> SCP was a security problem?
L120[10:13:02] <Li​ly> I thought it ran over ssh
L121[10:13:11] <Izzy> yeah because of design issues with the rcp protocol it used internally
L122[10:13:12] <Li​ly> Also, I mostly aliased it because rsync doesn't `- stalled -` lmao
L123[10:13:15] <Li​ly> ah
L124[10:13:21] <kim​apr> doesn't scp literally stand for secure copy ..
L125[10:13:23] <Izzy> you right click on the connector on the end of the EnderIO conduit and you can cycle through the colours
L126[10:13:27] <Li​ly> ah
L127[10:13:30] <Li​ly> there's no API?
L128[10:13:37] <Corded> > <kim​apr> doesn't scp literally stand for secure copy ..
L129[10:13:37] <kim​apr> Why would it be a security problem
L130[10:13:52] <Izzy> I'm not aware of a computerised way to change the channel, no, but I can't think of much reason to.
L131[10:14:11] <Redston​eParkour> if you need to though, a net splitter should work
L132[10:14:12] <Li​ly> Intelligent switches?
L133[10:14:20] <Redston​eParkour> and it does have an api
L134[10:14:20] <Izzy> think a uC can do that
L135[10:14:45] <Izzy> kimapr: so scp is a replacement for rcp, which was a plaintext protocol with dubious authentication. scp was encrypted over the wire, but it was still the rcp protocol, which had a bunch of design issues
L136[10:14:56] <Li​ly> Can uCs connect to OC conduits?
L137[10:14:58] <Izzy> now that it's using sftp internally those issues are a nonissue
L138[10:15:04] <Izzy> should be able to
L139[10:15:10] <Li​ly> Hmm... interesting
L140[10:15:23] <Izzy> an actual relay can do a lot more throughput though
L141[10:15:28] <Li​ly> oh?
L142[10:15:43] <Izzy> they can do multiple packets per cycle
L143[10:15:53] <Izzy> and they can run as fast as a computer
L144[10:15:57] <Li​ly> ah
L145[10:16:13] <Izzy> you want to save intelligence for network boundaries that don't get as much traffic
L146[10:17:22] <Izzy> especially expensive links like wireless cards or linked cards
L147[10:25:59] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> and it does have an api
L148[10:25:59] <Li​ly> Oh?
L149[10:26:30] <Li​ly> I don't see one in `component.blockconduitbundletileentity`
L150[10:26:33] <Redston​eParkour> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:netsplitter
L151[10:26:54] <Li​ly> Oh, you meant the net splitter.
L152[10:26:56] <Redston​eParkour> yeeah
L153[10:27:00] <Redston​eParkour> yeah*
L154[10:27:06] <Li​ly> Problem with that is it's face-based
L155[10:27:11] <Li​ly> And only has six "channels"
L156[10:27:22] <Lizzy> All this talk of OC networking just reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvqv9QcTcfA
L157[10:27:51] <Li​ly> (Also: OC conduits can be restricted to only input or only output)
L158[10:28:36] <Izzy> Lizzy: you watch any uhhhh clabretro?
L159[10:28:59] <Lizzy> name doesn't ring a bell
L160[10:29:07] <Lizzy> and youtube is giving me shit results when i search for it
L161[10:29:09] <Lizzy> so maybe
L162[10:29:19] <Izzy> https://invidious.perennialte.ch/channel/UCW7jUEpYT_t0Gsf632d6_wQ
L163[10:30:09] <Lizzy> many moons in the past i was gonna make a mod which added a smart cable (AE2) / P:Red multicoloured cable thing but for OC conduits
L164[10:30:19] <Lizzy> oooh
L165[10:30:24] <Lizzy> Clabretro
L166[10:30:47] <Lizzy> the font this irc session is using made the cl look like d
L167[10:31:02] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> (Also: OC conduits can be restricted to only input or only …
L168[10:31:02] <Li​ly> Or... not, apparently.
L169[10:31:03] <Lizzy> and yes, i do
L170[10:31:07] <Li​ly> Only "In/Out" and "Disabled".
L171[10:31:20] <Li​ly> Which seems... not particularly useful
L172[10:31:39] <Li​ly> Since "Disabled" amounts to just, removing it
L173[10:31:43] <Izzy> tangentially I added the skeletons of video notes pages to my site
L174[10:32:08] <Izzy> now I just have to turn my notes into something usable
L175[10:32:48] <Corded> > <Li​zzy> many moons in the past i was gonna make a mod which added a…
L176[10:32:49] <Li​ly> Honestly, bundled network cables would be pretty neat
L177[10:33:13] <Lizzy> bundled cable that's the name of them!
L178[10:33:42] <Lizzy> if i had the motivation to write a mod for minecraft, i might just get around to making it
L179[10:34:22] <Li​ly> 1.7 dev has really improved lately, too
L180[10:34:54] <Lizzy> if i didn't have adhd and was able to fully put my mind to anything, i'd be fucking unstoppable
L181[10:35:12] <Li​ly> `java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable` ...No, I don't think it is...
L182[10:35:43] <Redston​eParkour> have you tried turning it off and on again?
L183[10:35:48] <Li​ly> `Skipping event FMLPreInitializationEvent and marking errored mod ProjRed|Core since required dependency ForgeMultipart has errored` it would be nice if you said why.
L184[10:38:56] <Li​ly> ...I guess FMP *really* hates newer Java.
L185[10:39:04] <Li​ly> guess I'll swap to 1080p to launch
L186[10:40:28] <Lizzy> no, you can only do 1080i
L187[10:41:42] <Li​ly> I wish this monitor exposed 1440p properly over HDMI
L188[10:54:37] <Izzy> the other day I overheard someone saying "we don't have anything that old around" about DisplayPort
L189[10:54:37] <Li​ly> What are `dmesg` times in? Ticks?
L190[10:54:40] <Izzy> real thonking hours
L191[10:54:44] <Li​ly> <:concern:1292827197912121355>
L192[10:55:04] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> What are `dmesg` times in? Ticks?
L193[10:55:05] <Li​ly> (Trying to figure out just how slow bundled cable is)
L194[10:55:32] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> the other day I overheard someone saying "we don't have any…
L195[10:55:32] <Flamei​ngsoul> There old?
L196[10:56:32] <Izzy> that is why it's real thonking hours
L197[10:57:05] <Izzy> given HDMI is doomed to stagnate while DP keeps getting more unhinged
L198[10:57:08] <Izzy> HDMI truly is the worst
L199[10:57:45] <Izzy> (going forward, expect to see more mini-DP though. apparently the connectors are better for signal integrity)
L200[10:57:45] <Li​ly> hmm, it looks like maybe four updates a second, at most
L201[10:58:03] <Izzy> pretty sure the dmesg times are in computer.uptime()
L202[10:58:07] <Li​ly> ah
L203[10:58:24] <Li​ly> So it seems the max throughput of bundled cable is...
L204[10:58:28] <Li​ly> a whopping eight bytes a second
L205[10:59:05] <Izzy> in each direction?
L206[10:59:43] <Li​ly> No, eight bytes a second using every available colour
L207[11:00:05] <Izzy> oh, it's limited to every second tick?
L208[11:00:28] <Li​ly> I think so yeah
L209[11:00:46] <Izzy> unfortunate
L210[11:01:32] <Izzy> so I guess you could do 80 baud bidirectional
L211[11:01:48] <Li​ly> Meanwhile, the max throughput of a network card is, uh
L212[11:01:55] <Li​ly> How many packets can you send a second, again
L213[11:02:00] <Izzy> about 160KB/s
L214[11:02:05] <Redston​eParkour> dmesg times are in uptime iirc
L215[11:02:16] <Li​ly> Oh is it one packet per tick
L216[11:02:20] <Izzy> 20 packets per second on a max tier computer, 8K per packet by default
L217[11:02:50] <Izzy> (this is why a relay is a better ... relay, it also runs once per tick, but it can handle like ... four? five? packets per tick)
L218[11:03:46] <Izzy> which is kind of why it's also not such a bad idea to cram multiple computers onto one relay: stick some RAM in it and it can quite happily handle it all
L219[11:03:58] <Li​ly> 160 seems about the limit for OC throughput
L220[11:04:27] <Li​ly> (Not incl. compression)
L221[11:04:39] <Li​ly> Hm. What's the max size of a Computronics tape, again
L222[11:04:54] <Li​ly> Or, well
L223[11:04:56] <Li​ly> A max tier tape
L224[11:05:25] <Izzy> about 44MiB
L225[11:05:49] <Izzy> 128 (minutes) * 60 (seconds) * 6000 (bytes per second)
L226[11:05:50] <Li​ly> > storage space is roughly the number of minutes the tape can record divided by 4, in Megabytes
L227[11:05:51] <Li​ly> hm
L228[11:06:01] <Li​ly> Ah, their read speed is max 6KB/s?
L229[11:06:21] <Izzy> you can read the data off a tape really really fast
L230[11:06:32] <Izzy> but their playback is between 3 and 12KiB/s
L231[11:06:37] <Li​ly> Ah, playback
L232[11:06:54] <Izzy> I think in 1.7.10 it might instead be 4KiB/s?
L233[11:07:05] <Li​ly> Sample rate is lower yeah
L234[11:07:09] <Li​ly> 32767
L235[11:07:23] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> > storage space is roughly the number of minutes the tape c…
L236[11:07:23] <Li​ly> This would claim 32MB for a max tier
L237[11:08:26] <Redston​eParkour> also funnily enough, unless i'm mistaken, the sequential write speed is infinite for tapes
L238[11:08:59] <Izzy> they impose no limit on how much you can R/W I believe
L239[11:09:32] <Izzy> in one operation
L240[11:09:49] <Izzy> which suggests a readahead cache in partman would greatly improve performance, even if it's discarded immediately
L241[11:10:03] <Li​ly> Oh, it's literally just minutes * 245760
L242[11:10:16] <Li​ly> `sizes[i] = Integer.parseInt(l[i]) * L_MINUTE;`
L243[11:10:23] <Li​ly> L_MINUTE is `4096 * 60`
L244[11:10:34] <Li​ly> Wow that's much simpler than I thought
L245[11:11:11] <Li​ly> ...was a byte array really the best way to store their data?
L246[11:11:34] <Izzy> what else would you suggest?
L247[11:12:07] <Li​ly> fair point, but a 31457280 length array seems... big
L248[11:12:12] <Li​ly> actually idk how much overhead arrays have
L249[11:12:22] <Forec​aster> A bit array.
L250[11:23:27] <ff​_66> huh
L251[11:23:27] <ff​_66> i kicked 2 guys on skribble just by telling them "type <space> and <enter> very quickly"
L252[11:23:42] <ff​_66> (basically : become a spam bot)
L253[11:26:14] <ff​_66> no need to votekick
L254[11:26:14] <ff​_66> works on 75% of players
L255[11:26:34] <ff​_66> same as Cntrl + W or Alt + F4
L256[11:26:47] <Li​ly> So... You took advantage of gullibiltiy?
L257[11:26:57] <ff​_66> ?
L258[11:27:18] <Li​ly> Why would you do that though :<
L259[11:27:27] <ff​_66> no i kicked them because i was 3rd
L260[11:27:43] <ff​_66> very efficient
L261[11:28:03] <ff​_66> i thought they would have a brain though
L262[11:39:33] <Forec​aster> I'm sure that's a perfectly accurate percentage unlike the 36% of statistics that are completely made up
L263[11:40:10] <Redston​eParkour> well 3/4 success rate does mean 75%
L264[11:58:17] <ff​_66> well, between 100% and 50% at least, we were 5 including me in the game
L265[12:06:24] <Forec​aster> that's a terrible sample size
L266[13:16:15] *** Lizzy is now known as Liizzii
L267[13:40:24] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L268[13:40:24] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forec​aster! You beat kim​apr's previous record of 59 minutes and 9 seconds (By 3 hours, 7 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L269[13:40:25] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.69766324. Position #2 Need 0.27530197 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L270[15:17:29] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L271[15:17:29] <MichiBot> Woah! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 37 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L272[15:17:30] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 37 minutes and 5 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00162 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L276[18:59:18] <ff​_66> I have ome questions about my upcoming new pc
L277[18:59:18] <ff​_66> Do i need to change the psu if i am only 5 watts above the max rate ? (Especially if i undervolt the CPU)
L278[19:07:22] <stephanj> yea you should aim for 80% utilization
L279[19:07:25] <stephanj> thats the sweat spot
L280[19:07:46] <stephanj> undervolting can help but ideally you are in spec for the normal usage
L281[19:08:39] <ff​_66> I know but it is already starting to get expensive and an efficient 800W psu is...
L282[19:08:42] <Forec​aster> if your psu is sweating you should definitely change it
L283[19:09:07] <stephanj> Forecaster: i kinda use it as a water generator?!
L284[19:10:02] <Corded> > <step​hanj> Forecaster: i kinda use it as a water generator?!
L285[19:10:02] <ff​_66> Thats where the water coming out of infinite water sources come from
L286[19:10:30] <stephanj> ideally a overloaded PSU just shuts off
L287[19:10:34] <ff​_66> The more powerful it is, the better
L288[19:10:43] <stephanj> worst case? it delivery spurious voltages
L289[19:10:51] <Corded> > <step​hanj> ideally a overloaded PSU just shuts off
L290[19:10:51] <ff​_66> *ideally*
L291[19:11:04] <stephanj> yea
L292[19:11:05] <Corded> > <step​hanj> worst case? it delivery spurious voltages
L293[19:11:05] <ff​_66> Or it lights up
L294[19:11:10] <stephanj> na
L295[19:11:20] <stephanj> safety features should prevent that and spurious voltages
L296[19:11:22] <stephanj> but...
L297[19:11:32] <stephanj> it can easily kill other components so i would not risk it tbh
L298[19:12:00] <stephanj> rather maybe go lower on the cpu for now and then upgrade in a bit, a cpu should be easily sellable for a net zero if not a slight loss
L299[19:12:05] <stephanj> lower cpu + psu
L300[19:12:10] <ff​_66> Would you rather kill youself or kill your pc ?
L301[19:12:46] <stephanj> i can't answer that in public chat :P
L302[19:12:55] <Corded> > <step​hanj> rather maybe go lower on the cpu for now and then upgrade i…
L303[19:12:55] <ff​_66> No i am already on the ultra 5
L304[19:13:06] <stephanj> ultra 5?
L305[19:13:38] <ff​_66> On the list it is an intel core ultra 5
L306[19:13:59] <ff​_66> 15th generation 'series 2'
L307[19:14:20] <ff​_66> I can't go lower
L308[19:14:33] <stephanj> ah
L309[19:14:51] <ff​_66> For now...
L310[19:15:45] <ff​_66> And if i had extra money i would buy a ultra 7 and a 750-800w 80+ platinum osu
L311[19:16:10] <ff​_66> * psu
L312[19:17:31] <ff​_66> (Well, i lied. On the list it is a ultra 7 but ultra 5s are the worst of the best soo...)
L313[19:18:02] <ff​_66> It would be better waiting for a core 7 in that case
L314[19:27:18] <Va​ur> ultra 7 is really looking bad .... 😄
L315[19:31:51] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L316[19:31:51] <MichiBot> Yay! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 1 hour, 37 minutes and 5 seconds (By 2 hours, 37 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L317[19:31:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 14 minutes and 21 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00524 (0.00262 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.27168197 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L318[19:59:05] <Corded> > <Va​ur> ultra 7 is really looking bad .... 😄
L319[19:59:05] <ff​_66> Well, the 14700k is not better
L320[19:59:46] <Va​ur> intel latests generation have been ........ good for amd 😄
L321[20:00:19] <Va​ur> which somehow find a way to f up theirs cpu too
L322[20:00:34] <Va​ur> cpu launch*
L323[20:00:56] <ff​_66> Its technically MS which sabotaged AMD
L324[20:04:47] <Va​ur> yeah ... its on AMD to verify the software is ready for the cpu
L325[20:05:15] <Va​ur> also the gains on am5 are the same on other am4 so ....
L326[20:34:07] <Forec​aster> %sip
L327[20:34:08] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid stainless steel potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a gold octopus girl until someone turns off a lamp and then on again.
L328[20:34:15] <Forec​aster> Dangit
L329[20:37:18] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Dangit
L330[20:37:18] <ff​_66> Does my phone lamp count as a trud lamp ?
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L332[22:55:40] <Liizzi​i-chan> syncthing isn't having a great time with this folder https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729810540221.png
L333[23:00:09] <Kristo​pher38> 💀
L334[23:06:23] <Liizzi​i-chan> also each of those files, get a small (few bytes at most) write every 5 minutes. and they're binary files so the changed data is in random parts of the file
L335[23:13:02] <Izzy> dunno what librenms is using but it might be better to ship rrd data over the collectd protocol :p
L336[23:16:10] <Liizzii> I'll have a look at collectd to see if it can fit in, currently the 3 poller nodes write data to those files by connecting to rrdcached over wireguard to the main node, which is working fine. My testing is to see if i could distribute out the system a bit more so i could maybe move the main node to another site and not have to change much / have it be seamless.
L337[23:16:48] <Izzy> does
L338[23:16:57] <Izzy> does rrcached cache rrd data for later shipping, like for a laptop?
L339[23:17:25] <Liizzii> it's basically a disk-write-buffer
L340[23:18:09] <Izzy> ah. I've been looking for something that will let me do buffering and playback of system statistics
L341[23:18:13] <Liizzii> instead of all 23k files being written to randomly, (and in the case of some of the switches, 100s in one go), it spreads the writes out to even out io spiles
L342[23:18:19] <Izzy> so I can put collectd on laptops and phones
L343[23:21:36] <Liizzii> that librenms instance (and thus the 23k files) is roughly 265 devices with about 10227 ports between them (some are meraki aps and don't log the interface statistics, but it's also more than port stats that are logged)
L344[23:22:47] <Liizzii> the MariaDB stuff i can multi-master, the websever just needs read access to everything, pretty much the only thing that can't be easilly clustered is the rrd files
L345[23:22:53] * Amanda lays down atop Liizzii, yawns, makes sure Elfi's comfortable in her floof
L346[23:23:02] * Liizzii pets Amanda
L347[23:23:41] <Liizzii> i could have the poller nodes do their own writes over nfs to the main node, but then that's still sending writes to one fixed point
L348[23:24:01] <Liizzii> and for the most part, the current setup works just fine
L349[23:24:49] <Liizzii> it's just the site the main node is at we're having a power-down this weekend and also gonna move stuff about for better airflow, so i'ma have a 5-ish hour gap in my graphs :(
L350[23:27:32] <Izzy> Liizzii: did you see my fancy graphs
L351[23:27:48] <Liizzii> i probably missed them, sorry
L352[23:27:59] <Izzy> https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/56ff.png
L353[23:28:28] <Liizzii> ooh nice
L354[23:29:17] <Izzy> note that's only about a week's worth of data so the monthly power usage stat is not accurate yet
L355[23:30:28] <Liizzii> i think librenms can export to influx/grafana... maybe i should look into setting that up. Gives fancier graphs than librenms does out of the box and i can then tell librenms to not keep as long in the rrd files which should reduce their number/size a fair bit (think i currently have ~1 year of data)
L356[23:31:35] <Liizzii> anyway, i should go sleeps, it's 00:31 here and i have work in the morning
L357[23:33:24] <Izzy> o/
L358[23:37:25] <Amanda> Libre no man's sky?
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