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L2[00:42:54] * Amanda pawhugs Elfi, meows about the injustices of the world, like it raining on your wedding day
L3[00:44:14] <Li​ly> Just ask the fae to part the clouds
L4[00:56:26] <Amanda> I just part them myself, but then nadja gets upset about "world-ending tectonic shifting" and "having to restart the simulation again"
L5[01:14:34] * Amanda meows about the history of a particular molecule of hydrogen to Elfi, as she drifts off to zzzmews
L6[01:14:38] <Amanda> Night girls
L7[01:42:15] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L8[01:42:16] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 7 hours, 41 minutes and 15 seconds (By 47 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[01:42:17] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.007 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 3.00710521. Position #1
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L23[04:32:00] *** Amanda_ is now known as Amanda
L24[04:35:56] <Izzy> %remindme 4h check minecraft season
L25[04:35:56] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check minecraft season" in 4h at 10/26/2024 08:35:56 AM
L26[05:14:50] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L27[05:14:50] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 32 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L28[05:14:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 32 minutes and 34 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00354 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.30066197 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L29[05:15:33] <Forec​aster> %greenshell "Spider EveryOS"
L30[05:15:33] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You hit Spider EveryOS! They lost 0.09019859 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #2 Need 0.12026479 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
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L38[08:05:58] <Va​ur> %sip
L39[08:05:58] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny naqahdah potion (New!). The bottle turns into a piece of bacon. Vaur has found 1 piece of bacon so far. (Rem. uses: 0)
L40[08:29:41] <Forec​aster> %sip
L41[08:29:42] <MichiBot> You drink a thick toxictop potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly weaker.
L42[08:35:56] <MichiBot> Izzy REMINDER: check minecraft season
L43[09:08:41] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> ff_66: I object to your assertion that smaller engines are …
L44[09:08:41] <ff​_66> no, they are bad if you say "they use less fuel" but put extra stress on it, it become less efficient than a normal-sized engine on the same car
L45[09:10:17] <ff​_66> also, the best transmission is CVT, not DCT
L46[09:10:17] <ff​_66> the most efficient and your engine is always at peak torque = always peak acceleration
L47[09:12:32] <Izzy> I haven't tried a CVT
L48[09:12:52] <Izzy> that said, one can drive a small engine economically. it's just no fun
L49[09:12:58] <ff​_66> the only downside is that it is often combined with... a centrifugal clutch
L50[09:13:01] <Izzy> I could keep the swift at like 2kRPM all the time. but that'd be boring as hell
L51[09:13:24] <Izzy> I paid for the tacho I'm gonna use the whole thing
L52[09:13:33] <ff​_66> i know that it is not popular because of that, but in F1 it has been banned because of its power
L53[09:14:40] <Izzy> that said I'd be pretty confident saying that a smaller vehicle with a smaller engine will use less fuel than a bigger one with a bigger engine
L54[09:14:56] <Izzy> assuming the two are about the same age, anyway
L55[09:16:37] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> that said I'd be pretty confident saying that a smaller veh…
L56[09:16:37] <ff​_66> for the same car size i mean
L57[09:16:50] <Izzy> not necessarily, but maybe!
L58[09:17:09] <Izzy> depends where the efficiency curve lands
L59[09:17:21] <ff​_66> and also theres start & stop which is not economical at all, if you stop for less than 7 sec it actually wastes fuel, even hybrids are better
L60[09:17:38] <ff​_66> (especially in traffic jams)
L61[09:17:55] <Izzy> I do feel like you're still missing the point though
L62[09:18:16] <ff​_66> sure a moped is more efficient than a car
L63[09:18:21] <Izzy> smol cars with smol engines aren't best just because they're cheap to buy and cheap to own and cheap to run
L64[09:18:26] <Izzy> it's because they're fun
L65[09:18:48] <ff​_66> V6 minivans are also fun
L66[09:19:11] <Izzy> out of curiosity, how much driving have you done/
L67[09:19:27] <ff​_66> especially when you have all the family inside with all the cargo
L68[09:19:53] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> out of curiosity, how much driving have you done/
L69[09:19:53] <ff​_66> 0% real
L70[09:19:53] <ff​_66> 75% realistic virtual
L71[09:19:53] <ff​_66> 25% flash games
L72[09:19:57] <Izzy> okay so none
L73[09:20:00] <Izzy> gotcha
L74[09:20:18] <Izzy> don't worry you'll understand when you're older :)
L75[09:21:41] <ff​_66> whut
L76[09:21:55] <Izzy> very big difference in experience between driving games and driving
L77[09:22:05] <ff​_66> since when a KF version of a processor is more expensive than the K version ?
L78[09:22:17] <Izzy> the fairings cost extra
L79[09:22:45] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> very big difference in experience between driving games and…
L80[09:22:45] <ff​_66> unless you've got an entire simracing kit (i don't have one)
L81[09:23:07] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> the fairings cost extra
L82[09:23:08] <ff​_66> the F stands for "no GPU inside"
L83[09:23:28] <ff​_66> apparently now you literally have to pay for respect
L84[09:23:46] <Izzy> be a hell of a simracing kit to have a whole tilting platform
L85[09:24:04] <Izzy> though I guess some people do have them, so they're possible
L86[09:24:11] <ff​_66> buy hydraulic cylinders
L87[09:24:24] <ff​_66> and mount them on a chair
L88[09:24:43] <ff​_66> now if you crash at 300kph you're really dead
L89[09:29:43] <ff​_66> wowowow the price of the RAM got divided by 2 in 1 day
L90[09:30:07] <ff​_66> now for 1500 buck i can have 128 GB of RAM
L91[09:30:08] <nadja> Amanda: I have been urged by some colleagues of mine to tell you — again — to please only change the *clocks* when moving to/from DST, not to change *time itself*. They are annoyed of having to fix tears in spacetime.
L92[09:30:54] <Izzy> ff_66: see? a delay in getting computer parts is the opposite of a problem
L93[09:31:04] <Izzy> you get more for your money in the end
L94[09:31:15] <ff​_66> i knew it but a delay of 1 year is too much
L95[09:31:23] <Izzy> or what you were planning to get is half the price
L96[09:31:35] <ff​_66> and i thought the CPU would be cheaper first
L97[09:31:54] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> or what you were planning to get is half the price
L98[09:31:54] <ff​_66> I AM NOT PLANNING ON BUYING EVERYTHING NOW
L99[09:32:36] <ff​_66> only planning on buying things on the black friday and other sales like that
L100[09:35:15] <ff​_66> also i may have changed the motherboard to a two times cheaper alternative
L101[10:14:16] <Amanda> nadja: oh come on, that was one time! Now I only mess with spacetime in my own simulations
L102[10:34:22] <Amanda> Anyways
L103[10:34:35] * Amanda meows and looks around
L104[10:36:37] <Va​ur> %tonk
L105[10:36:37] <MichiBot> Woah! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 32 minutes and 34 seconds (By 1 hour, 49 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L106[10:36:38] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 21 minutes and 46 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00728 (0.00182 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.34143757 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L107[10:45:59] <Amanda> %choose factory or halucinate
L108[10:46:00] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Pretty sure I'd want you to go with "halucinate"!
L109[10:46:12] <Amanda> Hrm
L110[10:48:48] * Amanda makes sure Elfi is secure on her floof, does her rounds of the channel
L111[10:48:52] <stephanj> nadja: did they specify the precision Amanda has to adhere to when switching back from DST? you know paws are not that preciaw with clock hands! (thats why i hate the universe it never migrated to a digital master clock)
L112[10:51:03] <Amanda> Also DST isn't for another week
L113[10:51:18] <Izzy> nah it started like two weeks ago
L114[11:07:16] * Amanda climbs up into Izzy's lap, looks at what she's doing
L115[11:07:27] <Izzy> trust me you don't want to see
L116[11:08:15] <Izzy> (but if you insist, https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/249f.png )
L117[11:08:20] <Amanda> What's the worst the can happen?
L118[11:09:18] <Izzy> the LNP forms a minority government with a bunch of right-wing shitheads
L119[11:09:37] <Amanda> Ah, Nazis taking over aus?
L120[11:09:39] <Izzy> I think I'd prefer a LNP majority to that, dire though that would be.
L121[11:12:48] <Izzy> these are the delightful characters that would likely end up pushing them over the line https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-10/qld-abortion-analysis-kap-election-debate/104450992
L122[11:12:58] <Izzy> maybe with a little One Nation sprinkled in
L123[11:14:39] <stephanj> why have we not found a way to hold parties across the world responsible to what they say before the election vs what they are actually doing?
L124[11:14:45] <stephanj> germany also has this problem.
L125[11:16:12] <Amanda> Same way that companies regularly get away with crimes, money and blame-shifting
L126[11:16:36] <Amanda> At least in the US
L127[11:16:55] * stephanj puts all the politicans at the edge of a table, hey Amanda care to play cat?
L128[11:18:08] <Corded> > <ff​_66> since when a KF version of a processor is more expensive th…
L129[11:18:08] <Li​ly> The F stands for Fae, obviously
L130[11:18:16] <Li​ly> They charge you extra
L131[11:18:20] <Amanda> They'll just get back up, I've tried before
L132[11:19:30] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> be a hell of a simracing kit to have a whole tilting platfo…
L133[11:19:30] <Li​ly> Izzy: I've seen simulation equipment just straight up in the body of an Actual Car
L134[11:20:04] <stephanj> also AMD skips Graphics Units in its Ryzen series for a long time(unless you buy G) which kinds makes sense in an age where everyone has a GPU and saves space/bandwith/heat
L135[11:20:08] <Li​ly> But that was me helping a friend with data collection, at their uni
L136[11:20:14] <stephanj> Amanda: damn.
L137[11:20:32] <Li​ly> (After which I promptly drove the simulated vehicle off the edge of the map and into eternity.)
L138[11:20:52] <Li​ly> That vehicle's in Sovncarde now
L139[11:21:02] <Izzy> ah yes, the reverse simulation rig
L140[11:21:18] <Izzy> stephanj: but don't you understand, the obscenely expensive intel chip is Optimal (but only for the next three nanoseconds)
L141[11:23:28] <Li​ly> after which it promptly committs Intel®️ ~~Inside~~ Suicide™️ because of faulty microcode
L142[11:23:41] <Li​ly> * commits Intel®️ ~~Inside~~ Suicide™️ because of faulty microcode
L143[11:23:48] <Izzy> went and dug up my own build for something else today
L144[11:23:57] <Izzy> would you like to see some Extremely Normal Parts Decisions?
L145[11:24:03] <Li​ly> :3
L146[11:24:17] <Li​ly> I should find my Athlon II that I misplaced
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L148[11:24:45] <lily> The board it was from actually has support for AM3
L149[11:24:49] <lily> As well as AM2 and AM2+
L150[11:24:54] <lily> For some ungodly reason
L151[11:25:11] <Izzy> https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/fc41.html
L152[11:25:29] <Izzy> completely normal desktop build, yessiree
L153[11:27:33] <stephanj> lily: its under your tea cup, you used it as a cupwarmer!
L154[11:27:35] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> after which it promptly commits Intel®️ ~~Inside~~ Suicide™…
L155[11:27:35] <ff​_66> and its simple rectangle shape makes it get really hot if you don't have a contact frame
L156[11:27:38] <lily> Maybe I'm too accustomed to cursed things, but that looks relatively normal to me
L157[11:27:57] <stephanj> Izzy: i should wake up, i clicked on the more actions "button"
L158[11:28:06] <Izzy> realised that if I want HDDs of a reasonable size the cheapest way to get them is to buy used server HDDs
L159[11:28:17] <Izzy> so now my machine has a SAS HBA
L160[11:28:37] <lily> Ah.
L161[11:28:39] <Corded> > <step​hanj> also AMD skips Graphics Units in its Ryzen series for a lon…
L162[11:28:39] <ff​_66> yes but now the iGPUs are starting to get really good, so for multi-monitor setups
L163[11:28:42] <ff​_66> * setups...
L164[11:28:53] <Izzy> I predict suffering in your future
L165[11:29:16] <lily> Did you really just edit that message to add a "..."
L166[11:29:28] <ff​_66> well, i'll definitely suffer when my parents will die
L167[11:29:34] <Corded> > <li​ly> Did you really just edit that message to add a "..."
L168[11:29:34] <ff​_66> yes
L169[11:29:37] <ff​_66> * yes...
L170[11:29:59] <lily> And you just did it again. Outstanding.
L171[11:30:09] <Izzy> I remember trying to get the intel and NVIDIA drivers to cooperate and drive my motherboard's video outputs from my video card
L172[11:30:13] <Izzy> never again.
L173[11:30:30] <lily> Izzy: You can shorten that to just "NVIDIA drivers, never again"
L174[11:30:30] <stephanj> you really dont want to mix iGPU with a discreete GPU from my experience
L175[11:30:40] <ff​_66> you didn't have luck, i did it on my PC
L176[11:30:49] <Izzy> lily: this is also a very good rule
L177[11:30:59] <Izzy> don't forget, your iGPU is stealing RAM bandwidth
L178[11:31:17] <Izzy> and if you're copying a framebuffer from your dGPU, PCI-e bandwidth too
L179[11:31:28] <lily> I think my card is comparable to around a 4070S, and honestly I don't see anyone needing more than that much for gaming
L180[11:31:32] <Izzy> so even if it's somehow working, you're suffering for it
L181[11:31:35] <lily> The 4080 and 4090 are /not/ gaming cards, IMO
L182[11:31:43] <lily> Marketed as such yes
L183[11:31:56] <Izzy> the 6700XT is so wildly overkill for what I do with it, it's great
L184[11:32:00] <lily> But in my opinion they are datacenter/workstation cards
L185[11:32:11] <lily> Do you limit its wattage?
L186[11:32:15] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> and if you're copying a framebuffer from your dGPU, PCI-e b…
L187[11:32:15] <ff​_66> on my monitor with the iGPU there is Discord
L188[11:32:15] <ff​_66> do you really think it will destroy my PC ?
L189[11:32:18] <Izzy> nah but I have it undervolted
L190[11:32:22] <lily> A friend of mine has a 5700XT (?) limited to 45W
L191[11:32:29] <ff​_66> WTF
L192[11:32:29] <lily> Yeah
L193[11:32:39] <lily> 5700XT and 3950X on a 500W PSU
L194[11:32:45] <lily> ff_66: Don't bother calling him insane
L195[11:32:50] <lily> He's a Trackmania player, he knows already~
L196[11:33:01] <Izzy> apparently the 6700XT is a solid choice for like, 1440p144 modern games
L197[11:33:13] <Izzy> but I play decade-old games at 1200p60
L198[11:33:32] <Izzy> so the 6700XT tends to be running at like 15% under "load"
L199[11:34:18] <ff​_66> my i5-6600K has been overclocked to 4.4GHz but surpisingly it stays under the 69W TDP of the stock processor
L200[11:34:23] <Li​ly> Sorry, 36 https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729942463812.png
L201[11:34:43] <Izzy> lily: here's a fun one for you
L202[11:34:43] <Kristo​pher38> lol
L203[11:34:58] <Izzy> I VBIOS modded a Radeon Pro W4300 to up the TDP cap to 75W
L204[11:35:13] <Izzy> and overclocked it to ... 1050? 1100? Mhz
L205[11:35:19] <Izzy> did a little bit of undervolting too
L206[11:35:20] <lily> Why. Why would you do this
L207[11:35:28] <lily> For what purpose
L208[11:35:30] <lily> That poor card
L209[11:35:35] <ff​_66> and when undervolted to the "max" i tried (-200mV) the max power consumption it did was like, 40W at 100%
L210[11:35:47] <Izzy> it was the best card I could get for $50 to put in an optiplex 9020 SFF
L211[11:35:54] <Izzy> and honestly it's really solid!
L212[11:35:56] <ff​_66> i got an i3 with the performance of an i5 bruh
L213[11:35:57] <Izzy> but I wanted more
L214[11:36:19] <Izzy> (I gained like 10% it was thoroughly underwhelming, but I had fun)
L215[11:36:45] <lily> fair enough
L216[11:36:50] <ff​_66> and that same i5 can have the single-core performance of an i7 when overclocked
L217[11:37:14] <Izzy> 1069 -> 1266 score in unigine valley
L218[11:37:17] <ff​_66> i wish i could do these insane results on newer PCs
L219[11:37:21] <lily> unigine?
L220[11:37:30] <Izzy> they make benchmark software
L221[11:37:35] <Izzy> valley is from like 2012 or something
L222[11:37:49] <Izzy> 2013
L223[11:38:19] <Izzy> https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/44c4.html
L224[11:38:40] <lily> ah
L225[11:38:46] <lily> wonder how my XTX'd perform
L226[11:39:04] <lily> it's about comparable to a 4070S (mentioned earlier) so I can probably extrapolate from there
L227[11:39:21] <Izzy> lemme scp this over and I'll tell you how a 6700XT does
L228[11:40:29] <Izzy> it has not dipped below 200
L229[11:40:48] <lily> 200 what, FPS?
L230[11:40:52] <Izzy> mm
L231[11:41:10] <Izzy> will wait for it to finish
L232[11:41:23] <lily> also: why scp and not rsync?
L233[11:41:27] <lily> I find scp to stall a lot
L234[11:41:34] <lily> oh yeah, unrelated question
L235[11:41:41] <lily> AU internet is famously bad, right
L236[11:41:57] <lily> I wonder who has the worse internet; Australia or Germany
L237[11:42:21] <Izzy> uuuh because I opened thunar and typed sftp://umbriel and copied it over
L238[11:42:31] <lily> ah
L239[11:42:36] <Izzy> but scp sounds nicer
L240[11:43:39] <Izzy> and it is! don't get me started it's past my bed time
L241[11:43:53] <lily> noted.
L242[11:44:07] <Izzy> last scene
L243[11:44:10] <lily> %remindme 14h ask Izzy to elaborate :3
L244[11:44:10] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "ask Izzy to elaborate :3" in 14h at 10/27/2024 01:44:10 AM
L245[11:44:34] <Corded> > <li​ly> 200 what, FPS?
L246[11:44:34] <ff​_66> minecraft 1.7.10 when looking in the sky goes nuts (1000 fps on my budget PC wtf)
L247[11:44:54] <lily> Maybe that's because it's not rendering anything
L248[11:45:27] <Izzy> obligatory "this is a poor benchmark for modern systems that are not optimised for OpenGL" but, 6700XT in Valley https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/44fe.png
L249[11:45:33] <stephanj> i think i really need to swap my ryzen 3600 with something different, the gpu feels really underutlized/limited :(
L250[11:45:38] <ff​_66> and 600 FPS when looking at the sky in interior ?
L251[11:45:52] <lily> Interior?
L252[11:46:02] <Izzy> just 9-10x the score of the W4300, as you do
L253[11:46:06] <ff​_66> yes
L254[11:46:22] <ff​_66> i've got plenty of mods*
L255[11:46:24] <Izzy> oh yeah lily I should mention the W4300 is a R7 260X with double the VRAM and a lower clock speed
L256[11:46:27] <Kristo​pher38> is that your way of saying "looking at the ceiling"
L257[11:46:30] <lily> So you're... still not rendering anything, but now you're doing it within the confines of a hou-
L258[11:46:35] <lily> Izzy: W h a t
L259[11:46:42] <lily> Oh wait, W is workstation right
L260[11:46:44] <Izzy> yup
L261[11:46:49] <lily> yeah ok that makes sense
L262[11:46:53] <Izzy> so it can happily run at like 1500Mhz if you can cool the bastard
L263[11:47:02] <ff​_66> -# *including Mekanism, Thermal Expansion and 60 other mods
L264[11:47:04] <lily> Could you cool the bastard?
L265[11:47:05] <Izzy> but in a tiny low profile 1 slot cooler you just can't
L266[11:47:15] <Izzy> it's limited to 50W because that's what the cooler can do
L267[11:47:26] <Corded> > <Kristo​pher38> is that your way of saying "looking at the ceiling"
L268[11:47:26] <ff​_66> https://tenor.com/view/pirates-yesbutno-gif-1502181837354549727
L269[11:47:26] <lily> Also, fun factr
L270[11:47:31] <lily> s/factr/fact
L271[11:47:31] <MichiBot> <lily> Also, fun fact
L272[11:47:43] <lily> The 7900XTX is heavier than my entire thinkpad
L273[11:47:49] <Izzy> I believe it
L274[11:47:57] <lily> Which, in true lilyflower fashion, is currently being used as a mic for discord
L275[11:48:03] <lily> The XTX is like 2.1kg or something
L276[11:48:06] <lily> The thinkpad 1.5
L277[11:48:38] <Li​ly> ...the card weighs 1.6kg but the package 2.3?
L278[11:48:39] <Izzy> giant slab of aluminium
L279[11:48:50] <Li​ly> Does "package" mean like
L280[11:48:51] <Li​ly> The cooler
L281[11:49:05] <Li​ly> Or do they literally just mean the box
L282[11:49:32] <Izzy> it's heavy duty foam, so of course it's heavy :p
L283[11:49:59] <Li​ly> The PowerColour Hellhound (what I have) is 2.7 shipping weight 1.5 item weight, apparently
L284[11:50:19] <Li​ly> The thinkpad is 1.65kg
L285[11:50:21] <Izzy> before I go would you like to see the extremely normal presentation I was working on today
L286[11:50:25] <Li​ly> oh?
L287[11:50:29] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/f127282fde905f4c725f75af890bf33654f85224f43b0b5dc959e421e2003efd.png
L288[11:50:39] <Li​ly> >PXE
L289[11:50:42] <Li​ly> I am already concerned.
L290[11:51:00] <Izzy> visual aid for my next video >:)
L291[11:51:01] <Li​ly> What is this presentation possibly for
L292[11:51:23] <lily> what is it with #oc residents and being cursed
L293[11:51:39] <Izzy> not sure if my genius plan is going to work, but I'll uhhh PM you the setup I've worked out
L294[11:51:44] <lily> :3 oki
L295[11:52:12] <Izzy> don't want to post it here because I haven't figured out how to 503 discord's scrapers reliably
L296[11:52:22] <Forec​aster> if it's a genius plan I'm pretty sure it's guaranteed to work
L297[11:52:33] <lily> that is a mess of wires
L298[11:52:34] <lily> iapprove.
L299[11:52:57] <Izzy> but the AIO is the demo machine so for the first section I'm going to use it for going over the ansible playbook to deploy the PXE server
L300[11:53:13] <Izzy> then I'll nuke and pave it, over PXE
L301[11:53:23] <Izzy> brane
L302[11:53:28] <stephanj> Izzy: go to bed!
L303[11:53:53] <lily> But, yeah... I commit crimes against the JVM, you make concerning PC builds and also car (?), ...
L304[11:53:59] <Izzy> you know, my eyes hurt, good call
L305[11:54:03] <Izzy> lily: oh I dug up this fun one
L306[11:54:10] <lily> Izzy: gn \o
L307[11:54:40] <lily> Speaking of cursed things
L308[11:54:51] <Izzy> last one https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/2383.jpg
L309[11:54:55] <Izzy> that is my new server
L310[11:54:58] <lily> %splash @Forecaster cursed potion
L311[11:54:58] <MichiBot> You fling a robust amethyst potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster's left sock is now cursed.
L312[11:55:11] <Forec​aster> D:<
L313[11:55:17] <Li​ly> Is that a stack of DVDs or CDs
L314[11:55:27] <Li​ly> Also that plugboard looks very full
L315[11:55:27] <Izzy> yes, that is a fan double sided taped to the PSU to cool the NIC and SAS HBA
L316[11:55:46] <Izzy> I've found both in there!
L317[11:55:49] <Izzy> very inconvenient
L318[11:55:54] <Li​ly> CDVD™️
L319[11:56:08] <Izzy> some of the CDs are also formatted with that annoying windows rewritable CD thing
L320[11:56:10] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> D:<
L321[11:56:11] <Li​ly> Honestly I wasn't expecting "cursed potion" to work
L322[11:56:12] <Li​ly> UDF?
L323[11:56:17] <Izzy> maybe?
L324[11:56:24] <Izzy> it means you can't burn isos to them
L325[11:56:29] <Forec​aster> technically it didn't work
L326[11:56:32] <Izzy> so they're literally wortheless
L327[11:56:41] <Li​ly> I thought it would just be a generic potion. Maybe "cursed" applies an effect?
L328[11:56:44] <Li​ly> %sip cursed potion
L329[11:56:45] <MichiBot> You drink a timeless currentcorn potion (New!). Lily gains the ability to see previously unseen bricks for 4 hours.
L330[11:56:55] <Li​ly> Nope. I just got incredibly coincidentally lucky.
L331[11:57:19] <Li​ly> I guess even Michi has it out for you~
L332[11:57:23] <Li​ly> Anyway, gn Izzy
L333[11:57:28] <Izzy> o/
L334[12:16:13] <Forec​aster> that's what I meant by technically
L335[12:16:30] <Forec​aster> it was just a coincidence
L336[12:26:59] <Li​ly> I knew 4K textures were big but I think this is taking the mickey a little bit. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729945618980.png
L337[12:27:03] <Li​ly> Skyrim itself is like, half that
L338[12:27:52] <Li​ly> Also whew, RAR compression is something else
L339[12:28:34] <Li​ly> The compressed file is 8.2
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L341[13:02:32] <Kristo​pher38> happy halloween i guess? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729947752000.png
L342[13:03:42] <ff​_66> carved pumpkins blocks would have made more sense but... why not ?
L343[13:38:22] <Li​ly> ...Carved?
L344[13:39:18] <ff​_66> since 1.14 they are called "carved pumpkins" as there's now "normal" pumpkins which can't be put on your head etc...
L345[13:40:34] <Redston​eParkour> wait only in 1.14?
L346[13:40:54] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> wait only in 1.14?
L347[13:40:54] <ff​_66> 1.13 or 1.14 i don't remeber
L348[13:40:59] <ff​_66> * remember
L349[13:41:14] <ff​_66> but not 1.12 thats sure
L350[13:41:41] <Redston​eParkour> i thought they existed in 1.8
L351[13:41:50] <Redston​eParkour> but the wiki proved me wrong
L352[13:42:02] <Redston​eParkour> (they were added in 1.13 btw)
L353[13:42:25] <ff​_66> ok good to know
L354[13:50:56] <S​3> Izzy: Reall cool
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L356[14:53:32] <Corded> > <ff​_66> no, they are bad if you say "they use less fuel" but put ex…
L357[14:53:33] <Ocawes​ome101> I can drive the shit out of my Fit and still get 30mpg
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L359[16:10:00] <Forec​aster> "Elon Musk just announced the death of driving"
L360[16:10:04] <Forec​aster> Yeah right...
L361[16:21:23] <ff​_66> Nice now my PC froze while i was using gedit...
L362[16:22:11] <ff​_66> Do you have any distro to suggest for my PC ?
L363[16:23:08] <Forec​aster> Install Pi OS
L364[16:27:14] <Corded> > <ff​_66> Do you have any distro to suggest for my PC ?
L365[16:27:14] <Ocawes​ome101> Arch
L366[16:28:16] <ff​_66> Aren't their users a litteral meme ?
L367[16:30:40] <ff​_66> But first i should downgrade ubuntu... which is not an easy task
L368[16:35:55] <ff​_66> Oh. Apparently you can't. At all.
L369[16:38:40] <ff​_66> "Ubuntu is stable" he said.
L370[16:38:40] <ff​_66> "Ubuntu is great" he said
L371[16:39:18] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> "Elon Musk just announced the death of driving"
L372[16:39:18] <The P​atmann> Maybe he's finally decided Tesla Self-Driving is for maximizing road fatalities and now the cars are killdrones. That might kill driving
L373[16:39:26] <The P​atmann> Oh, sorry, I meant drivers...
L374[16:39:39] <The P​atmann> MB
L375[16:39:40] <ff​_66> And now im stuck with unplayable minecraft, and no downgrade possible from noble to jammy
L376[16:40:27] <The P​atmann> What broke your game specifically?
L377[16:40:53] <Corded> > <The P​atmann> What broke your game specifically?
L378[16:40:53] <ff​_66> The drivers, but the update broke the game even more
L379[16:41:16] <The P​atmann> Ah, driver hell, I know that pain
L380[16:41:32] <ff​_66> Nvidia drivers + old hardware = pain
L381[16:41:42] <The P​atmann> I use a downstream Ubuntu branch that has snapshots to rollback to
L382[16:41:50] <The P​atmann> (Mint lol)
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L384[16:42:36] <ff​_66> And now i've got minecraft textures blinking on the desktop
L385[16:42:44] <The P​atmann> Jeeez
L386[16:43:08] <ff​_66> 30 times a second
L387[16:43:49] <ff​_66> It is starting...
L388[16:43:49] <ff​_66> Lemme show you
L389[16:45:28] <ff​_66> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729961128803.jpg
L390[16:45:43] <ff​_66> Every time it is random
L391[16:46:47] <ff​_66> The VRAM is having a great time
L392[16:47:14] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L393[16:47:14] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 21 minutes and 46 seconds (By 48 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L394[16:47:15] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.47120426, Position #3 Need 0.32543757 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L395[18:07:46] <ff​_66> Oh
L396[18:07:46] <ff​_66> I may have found were does the problem begin
L397[18:08:15] <ff​_66> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1729966095344.jpg
L398[18:10:35] <ff​_66> It confirms that it is a driver issue
L399[18:16:38] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L400[18:16:39] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L401[18:16:40] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 29 minutes and 24 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00149 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L402[18:57:01] <Corded> > <ff​_66> Nvidia drivers + old hardware = pain
L403[18:57:01] <Jas​onS> What’s your GPU?
L404[19:07:03] <ff​_66> nVidia GeForce GT218 (2009 💀)
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L408[20:11:43] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L409[20:11:43] <MichiBot> Hooray! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 24 seconds (By 25 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L410[20:11:44] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 2.79764183. Position #2 Need 0.12075479 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L411[20:11:52] <Forec​aster> A bite before bed
L412[20:12:23] <Forec​aster> And maybe %greenshell "Spider EveryOS"
L413[20:12:23] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You can't snipe right now. Try again in 9 hours, 3 minutes and 9 seconds.
L414[20:12:28] <Forec​aster> Aw
L415[20:21:40] <Forec​aster> It's unfortunate that the defense timer doesn't work but that one does...
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L417[21:07:16] <Corded> > <ff​_66> nVidia GeForce GT218 (2009 💀)
L418[21:07:16] <Jas​onS> The hell is that thing
L419[21:07:20] <Jas​onS> What is that naming scheme
L420[21:07:37] <Jas​onS> I have a GTX 1650 (laptop version) and it works pretty laptop
L421[21:07:41] <Jas​onS> * well
L422[21:08:07] <Mic​hiyo> It's basically a GT210
L423[21:08:29] <Corded> > <Jas​onS> I have a GTX 1650 (laptop version) and it works pretty well
L424[21:08:29] <ff​_66> On my main pc ive got a 1650S
L425[21:09:28] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> It's basically a GT210
L426[21:09:28] <ff​_66> Exact, except all the specs are saying GT218 and the box GeForce 210
L427[21:10:25] <ff​_66> Also for the first time i've got an nvidia screen on startup
L428[21:10:25] <ff​_66> Glad it wont get past that
L429[21:11:01] <Mic​hiyo> the 218 is just the name of the core "GT218-300-A2", which is what the GT210 wasb built on.
L430[21:11:11] <Mic​hiyo> * was built on.
L431[21:13:20] <Mic​hiyo> I've seen 2 places list the 218 as the base for the 260, but I owned a 260 and it wasn't listed anywhere as 218
L432[21:13:25] <Mic​hiyo> so *shrug*
L433[21:13:47] <Mic​hiyo> Oh... 260M then maybe.
L434[21:14:17] <Mic​hiyo> OH, no, there it is.
L435[21:14:22] <Mic​hiyo> 210M
L436[21:15:25] <Mic​hiyo> 512MB vram, 64 bit bus, GDDR3
L437[21:15:26] <Mic​hiyo> oof.
L438[21:16:08] <Izzy> think I ended up swapping my GT220 for an 8600GT
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L441[21:41:53] <ff​_66> Oh, mobile version ?
L442[22:05:11] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/1df935cd6740de5f67ea9ed337c3bd5c5b1dbe1a85a31a50e2715b1d8ebe6334.jpg
L443[22:05:15] <Izzy> which floor variant do we like best?
L444[22:05:53] <stephanj> the cobble on the wall
L445[22:44:21] <Kristo​pher38> copy right flat to the left and we have a deal
L446[22:47:30] <immibis> in my sample of 1156093 file metadatas from curseforge, according to files with the same sha1 hash, there are 103 empty files, 18 zip files with no contents, and the next several appear to be duplicate uploads of actual mods (except the top one after zip files with no contents is a word document "Elytra Name List.docx") and then one extreme outlier: this one modpack has 361 identical file uploads: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/create-prepare
L447[22:47:30] <immibis> -to-dye
L448[22:47:34] <Izzy> oooh, big tiles down the middle?
L449[22:47:36] <immibis> there is no reason for this information
L450[23:09:58] <Kristo​pher38> izzy: yes
L451[23:10:21] <Izzy> I'll try that out
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L453[23:41:42] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L454[23:41:42] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 29 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L455[23:41:43] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 29 minutes and 59 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.0035 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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