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L1[00:23:33] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, debates laptopnaptime
L2[00:31:18] <Amanda> Right, laptopnaptime it is
L3[00:31:39] * Amanda moves her laptop to it's resting place, turns off the LCD panel so the backup restore can continue overnight
L4[01:31:46] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L5[01:31:46] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 24 minutes and 34 seconds (By 1 hour, 28 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L6[01:31:47] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.62473908, Position #1
L7[01:34:08] <Amanda> Night girls
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L9[06:46:44] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
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L11[07:38:17] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L12[07:38:17] <MichiBot> Darn! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 6 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[07:38:18] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 6 minutes and 30 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00611 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3 => #2. (Overtook Vaur) Need 0.05051908 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L14[07:38:35] <Forec​aster> %greenshell "Spider EveryOS"
L15[07:38:35] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Unfortunately you missed with a 6 vs 10.
L16[07:38:38] <Forec​aster> dammit
L17[07:38:40] <Forec​aster> >:
L18[07:38:48] <Forec​aster> slippery spider
L19[07:46:23] <Corded> > <Va​ur> you sheer and you get diamonds
L20[07:46:23] <ff​_66> imagine speedrunning minecraft with these
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L23[08:22:07] <Izzy> the kids these days seem very into speedrunning
L24[08:22:15] <Izzy> feels like I missed some cultural event that made it not super niche
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L26[08:33:36] <ff​_66> nowadays, finishing a game is (not really) easy, so the question is not can you, but *how fast* can you finish a game
L27[08:36:42] <Forec​aster> you're supposed to finish games?!
L28[08:46:26] <nadja> Izzy: That "cultural event" was speedrum.com around ca. 2005 :P
L29[08:50:49] <Izzy> That can't be right, it seems more recent...
L30[08:51:19] <Izzy> Also, nadja, two small vanometric power cells or a one small vanometric power cell and a mastercraft crafting textbook
L31[08:51:50] <nadja> mastercraft or masterwork? In the latter case definitely that.
L32[08:52:27] <Izzy> masterwork. been playing ARK >.>
L33[08:52:47] <nadja> Izzy: Most speedrunners are Gen X or Y. Most watchers of speedruns are Gen X and Y. Stop thinking the kids are at fault and look in the mirror :P
L34[08:53:06] <Izzy> fault? no, I just seem to have missed the memo is all
L35[08:53:28] <nadja> You didn't grow up with SNES games, that's all
L36[08:55:26] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> you're supposed to finish games?!
L37[08:55:26] <ff​_66> games always have an end, like my knowledge
L38[08:58:13] <ff​_66> speaking of knowledge, minecraft is crashing because of dependency issues that i resolved (mixinbooter 8.0 needed, 9.1 provided), and i can't figure out what's the problem
L39[08:58:50] <nadja> Izzy: Anyway, Vanometric powercells are really not all that good. The best thing they're for deep drilling outposts and when you're at that stage you can probably afford hauling batteries too.
L40[08:59:30] <nadja> But they're outclassed by a geothermic generator in mid-game and by a watermill early-game
L41[09:01:10] <nadja> The best quest reward if you're not running Rimmefeller is the Infinite Chemreactor anyway :P
L42[09:06:16] <Izzy> got VCE and ... Appliances Expanded? so it has an equivalent that's even more powerful
L43[09:06:25] <Izzy> needs a little more setup but it works
L44[09:06:39] <nadja> The Helixen gas stuff?
L45[09:08:30] <Izzy> nah there's a Vanilla Chemfuel Expanded infinite reactor, you need to put it on a vein but it just goes
L46[09:08:52] <nadja> Huh, fun
L47[09:09:13] <Izzy> just blew my entire silver reserve on a breeding pair of maine coons :3
L48[09:09:58] <nadja> Venerating cats again? :P
L49[09:10:04] <Izzy> no(t yet)
L50[09:10:16] <Izzy> they're excellent hauling animals though
L51[09:10:58] <Izzy> Not as efficient as norweigan forest cats but having giant fluffy cats around is good for morale (mine)
L52[09:11:04] <nadja> True
L53[09:11:14] <nadja> Since when are cats Advanced trainability anyway ^^'
L54[09:11:30] <Izzy> Most aren't, but Maine Coons and Norweigan Forest Cats are
L55[09:19:54] <ff​_66> Minecraft already crashed 10 times today and it says to me this : https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722244794733.png
L56[09:41:06] <Izzy> also nadja you're smarter than me so tell me how dumb an idea this is
L57[09:41:33] <Izzy> so in RTFS the "index" is a linear list of 64-byte entries that specify extents
L58[09:43:29] <Izzy> my thinking is I could allocate some space on the disk somewhere to store an 8-bit hash of each filename (well, path) so searching for extents matching a specific filename could avoid reads of sectors of the index not containing matching hashes
L59[09:44:53] <Izzy> does that sound remotely sane?
L60[09:58:01] <lunar_sam> if you use two bytes you can also store a hash of the parent path :v
L61[09:58:16] <Izzy> the whole path is stored in the entry
L62[10:00:20] <lunar_sam> unless i'm glueless and wrong in how i assume directories work
L63[10:00:32] <lunar_sam> *directory listings
L64[10:00:39] <Izzy> oh there are directory entries in the index, technically
L65[10:00:49] <Izzy> they just say that a directory exists
L66[10:01:04] <Izzy> could do that
L67[10:02:00] <Forec​aster> heh, glueless
L68[10:06:36] <lunar_sam> i mean store a hash of the parent directory's name to speed up directory listing if you just match the parent path for directory listings, more or less
L69[10:07:19] <Izzy> oh yeah I getcha
L70[10:07:29] <Izzy> not a bad idea either
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L73[10:11:01] <kr​at> ever since the java 8 update yesterday i cant get the autorun.lua to work
L74[10:12:51] <kr​at> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722247970906.png
L75[10:13:23] <kr​at> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722248003124.png
L76[10:18:18] <nadja> Izzy: Did you just reinvent inodes?
L77[10:18:36] <Corded> > <kr​at>
L78[10:18:36] <ff​_66> you should maybe put "" symbols around the path
L79[10:19:04] <Izzy> I don't ... think so? inodes are less terrible, from my reading
L80[10:19:14] <Corded> > <ff​_66> you should maybe put "" symbols around the path
L81[10:19:14] <kr​at> that fixed it
L82[10:19:24] <kr​at> its weird that it worked before though
L83[10:19:45] <ff​_66> you were dividing nothing by bin, itself divided by ags.lua
L84[10:21:46] <ff​_66> and i think that tolerance is a bug since it requires a string, not a completely invalid expression
L85[11:04:39] <Izzy> nadja: I'm gonna say no because each extent is a separate entry in the index and directories aren't real
L86[11:09:03] <nadja> Then it's probably sane. Painting yourself into a particular corner but that's not necessarily bad.
L87[11:10:18] <Izzy> kinda just thinking about it because I have like 500-odd free bytes in the superblock
L88[11:10:50] <Izzy> and if ~every write modifies the superblock then might as well use it for faster lookups
L89[11:11:25] <Izzy> and if it's actually beneficial it could be nice to extend beyond that one sector
L90[11:12:59] <Izzy> though admittedly it is mildly niche in that you'd only care about the difference when you have more entries in the index than you have memory used for metadata cache, and you can just throw more memory at it
L91[11:14:39] <Izzy> so that'd be 120 entries on a 256k system, 248 on a 512k system, and 2040 on a 4M system
L92[11:15:22] <Izzy> (each extent would necessarily have to be ~4k or less on average to need that many directory entries)
L93[11:15:30] <Izzy> (on a 4M drive)
L94[11:17:34] <Va​ur> %tonk
L95[11:17:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 6 minutes and 30 seconds this time. 3 hours, 39 minutes and 16 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 27 minutes and 13 seconds!
L96[11:27:33] * Amanda meows and looks around
L97[11:27:55] <gruetzkopf> meow!
L98[11:27:59] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable green potion
L99[11:27:59] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a golem boy until they recite the litany against fear.
L100[11:28:44] * Amanda sends Forecaster to Geppetto
L101[11:31:17] <Izzy> ... hm, but it would mean that on a 256k system you'd potentially avoid reading 48-odd sectors of unrelated data if you used the spare uhh
L102[11:31:50] <Izzy> 480 bytes in the superblock
L103[11:33:21] <Izzy> or alternatively it may allow you to get away with a lot less cache
L104[11:46:06] <Va​ur> %sip
L105[11:46:06] <MichiBot> You drink a hot silver potion (New!). Vaur feels a sudden surge of static electricity.
L106[11:46:51] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: replace pika-backup with borgomatic
L107[11:48:20] <Amanda> ENOSPOONS
L108[12:02:23] <Forec​aster> %sip
L109[12:02:23] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy gold potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Forecaster. They don't stop.
L110[12:09:34] <Va​ur> %sip
L111[12:09:34] <MichiBot> You drink a solid rubium potion (New!). Vaur's hair turn the color of grathnode until they have a nap.
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L114[13:18:49] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/e0d376398e6bd208bb600296385b353801b10f588aa804146e66ee94e4e072f2.png
L115[13:26:01] <Va​ur> %sip
L116[13:26:01] <MichiBot> You drink a still nectar potion (New!). The next remote Vaur looks for is extra hard to find.
L117[13:27:22] * Amanda places Izzy in curse quarentine
L118[13:31:46] <Izzy> that is probably the appropriate response
L119[13:32:07] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/14f12ec3cf63772af873088c87f1b4c2130205dce803ba17f228849591a90e45.png
L120[14:23:37] <lunar_sam> you could do this in a more cursed way
L121[14:26:09] <lunar_sam> iirc lua will let you put almost any character you want, including most control characters, in a string literal
L122[14:26:31] <Va​ur> %sip
L123[14:26:31] <MichiBot> You drink a proprietary dalekanium potion (New!). It tastes salty.
L124[14:26:46] <lunar_sam> iirc the main one that's off limits is null, but you can just replace it with `\0`
L125[14:27:11] <lunar_sam> there's a few others you should probably replace like tab `\t` and newline/return `\n`/`\r`
L126[14:29:30] <Izzy> I don't want it to break text editors
L127[14:30:13] <lunar_sam> that's fair
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L129[15:03:47] <Redston​eParkour> maybe use luapreproc (or something similar) to insert the bytes
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L132[16:31:11] <Forec​aster> good jod... the sasquatch fight...
L133[16:31:12] <Forec​aster> oof
L134[16:32:27] <Forec​aster> took quite a few revolver shots to the head, but it worked out in the end
L135[16:32:36] <Forec​aster> not for her... but still
L136[16:33:15] <Mic​hiyo> You can stealth that entire area and skip the fight. My last playthrough I did that, was fun
L137[16:33:43] <Forec​aster> oh, that didn't even occur to me, but that's valid
L138[16:33:53] <Forec​aster> still, satisfying ending of the fight
L139[16:34:03] <Forec​aster> also I stole her hammer before the fight started
L140[16:34:04] <Mic​hiyo> Oh yeah, first few playthroughs I fought her.
L141[16:34:31] <Mic​hiyo> I've never actually finished CP2077... I get the the Embers mission and just... start again lol
L142[16:35:07] <Forec​aster> I've never played it this far before since my old computer could barely even run it
L143[16:35:10] <Mic​hiyo> Finish out gigs and side stuff, then restart.
L144[16:35:19] <Mic​hiyo> Do you have Phantom Liberty?
L145[16:35:39] <Forec​aster> yeah, I'm mostly only playing story missions to get to that
L146[16:36:34] <Mic​hiyo> I've been enjoying PL for sure. I should play more...
L147[16:37:39] <Forec​aster> it sucks that you can only have three weapons equipped....
L148[16:37:45] <Forec​aster> why did they do that...
L149[16:38:05] <Va​ur> %sip
L150[16:38:05] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty coralcreep potion (New!). Vaur reboots for an update for 6 minutes.
L151[16:38:16] <Mic​hiyo> *shrug* I usually use my smg and a sniper lol
L152[16:39:13] <Mic​hiyo> sometimes I'll keep a katana
L153[16:39:20] <Forec​aster> insufficient, I have a silenced pistol for sneaking, two different sniper rifles, an assault rifle, some melee weapons....
L154[16:39:41] <Forec​aster> why couldn't they just let you assign weapons to number keys or something
L155[16:40:04] <Forec​aster> some design decisions they've made are great, like the conversation system
L156[16:40:11] <Forec​aster> others... not so much
L157[16:40:18] <Mic​hiyo> Because at its core, its emulating the RPG.
L158[16:42:13] <Forec​aster> it shouldn't do that for no reason though
L159[16:42:54] <Forec​aster> like switching weapons you can do mid-combat just by going into the inventory, it's just more inconvenient with no effect on gameplay
L160[16:43:10] <Mic​hiyo> *shrug*
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L164[17:30:14] <Amanda> Well, I don't think I can put off fixing 34tauri-c's fan anymore.
L165[17:30:27] <Amanda> Everything on it is crashing and generally being miserable
L166[17:30:31] <Amanda> I assume because the CPU is baking
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L168[17:57:28] <stephanj> just make dinner on it? *runs*
L169[17:59:48] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/v3/download/camnet.site/FNPpOTsWNjwkkfRulqAkFzNM/Screenshot_20240729_135922.png
L170[18:00:07] <Amanda> I get the feeling I might need to replace the fans on -a and -b as well
L171[18:00:09] <Forec​aster> mmm, cpu cookies
L172[18:00:24] <Amanda> They both have most of the temp gagues over 80C
L173[18:00:58] <Amanda> Oh actually, -a is hovering more around 80
L174[18:01:00] <Amanda> er, 90
L175[18:01:18] <Amanda> Probably because it's closest to the shopfan I put on the shelf with them
L176[18:01:51] <Amanda> but -b is dancing up against 100
L177[18:05:25] <Forec​aster> oof, final street fight, got whooped
L178[18:05:26] <Amanda> %remindme 1h check if -c is still averaging below 80
L179[18:05:26] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check if -c is still averaging below 80" in 1h at 07/29/2024 07:05:26 PM
L180[18:05:37] <Forec​aster> I probably should have installed some skeleton mods sooner
L181[18:07:14] <Forec​aster> let's see if it goes any better now
L182[18:09:58] <Forec​aster> yeah, way better
L183[18:15:40] <Va​ur> %tonk
L184[18:15:40] <MichiBot> Fudge! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 6 minutes and 30 seconds (By 51 minutes and 35 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L185[18:15:41] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 58 minutes and 6 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00602 (0.00086 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3 => #2. (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.04847816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L186[19:05:27] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check if -c is still averaging below 80
L187[19:06:14] <Amanda> Nice, still mostly under 80
L188[19:07:03] <Amanda> Guess I should order the fans for -a and -b then
L189[19:08:07] <Forec​aster> something's a bit wrong with this hologram... https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722280087361.png
L190[20:03:44] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L191[20:03:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm, planetary alignment doesn't seem right for that.
L192[20:06:46] <stephanj> Amanda: how is the new tab?
L193[20:07:22] <Amanda> stephanj: pretty good, liking it so far. Still getting it set up how I'd like
L194[20:08:45] <Amanda> The KDE Overview view seems to be busted on it, though. Bringning it up just shows a dark screen
L195[20:09:02] <stephanj> mh
L196[20:11:07] <Amanda> Also I've not tried bluetooth on it yet, if that's important to you
L197[20:11:42] <stephanj> since i started using bone conductance headphone as primaries now, a bit :P
L198[20:11:44] <Amanda> Also because it ships set to UTC, the clock widget is invisible for some readon
L199[20:11:57] <stephanj> yea UTC needs no clock :P
L200[20:12:22] <Amanda> ... also the discover thing seems to be stuck somehow
L201[20:12:38] <Amanda> It gets to 99% on "fetching updates" then just sits there forever
L202[20:12:56] <Amanda> I tried uninstalling the packagekit thing, since apparently it's not reccomended to be used on arch anyway
L203[20:13:52] <Amanda> And I'm not sure if it's arch or kde but it ships with the display scaling set to 125%
L204[20:14:05] <Amanda> Which makes things comically huge, imo
L205[20:16:08] <stephanj> the 125% thing is kinda default in many things now :( annoyingly
L206[20:22:45] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime *now*?
L207[20:22:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Only if you stab Inari first.
L208[20:22:50] <Amanda> %stab @inari
L209[20:22:50] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to stab @inari! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L210[20:22:53] <MichiBot> Amanda is stabbing @inari with a Magic Magic attempt to index nil value! (25%)! (25%) for 1d8 => 3 (Magic +2) => 5 damage!
L211[20:23:26] <Na​dja> Izzy, got one for you:
L212[20:23:31] <Na​dja> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722284611396.png
L213[20:26:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L214[20:26:26] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy apple potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts Forecaster for 2 moons.
L215[20:26:36] <Forec​aster> Ohno
L216[20:29:46] <stephanj> @Nadja: cursed.
L217[21:10:01] <Amanda> Took me entirely too long to notice it's rtl aligned. I was just confused about what about it was cursed
L218[21:10:45] <Amanda> Or is there something else?
L219[21:14:11] <Amanda> %choose rain box time?
L220[21:14:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard that such things lead to bad luck
L221[21:14:27] <Amanda> I'll be fiiine
L222[21:20:58] <nadja> Amanda: Same. It took me way to long too ~~I blame that on all the Hebrew lessons~~. But it's still wonderfully cursed :D
L223[21:21:48] <Amanda> I think my brain just largely disregards whitespace while parsing code.
L224[21:22:21] <Amanda> Honestly what tipped me off was the *s being on the right side of the comments
L225[21:22:38] <nadja> It just tripped me off that all the words were in the backwards order :P
L226[21:22:51] <nadja> For RTL text that is
L227[21:23:37] <Amanda> Guessing that's from a codebase from someone who largely speaks a rtl language
L228[22:35:57] <Amanda> %choose factory or space or halucinate
L229[22:35:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "halucinate" you can't stop.
L230[22:36:47] <Amanda> Nomnomnom, Internet stories
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