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L1[00:18:32] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L2[00:18:32] <MichiBot> Golly! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 34 seconds (By 44 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L3[00:18:33] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 6 minutes and 52 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00222 (0.00074 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L4[00:26:11] <Amanda> %choose early zzzmews?
L5[00:26:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.
L6[00:26:19] <Amanda> Now I am
L7[00:26:53] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, meows about her.plams for mars 2, does a heccen zzzmew
L8[00:27:09] <Amanda> Night girls
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L16[04:16:45] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L17[04:16:46] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 3 hours, 6 minutes and 52 seconds (By 51 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L18[04:16:47] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 58 minutes and 12 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00344 (0.00086 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3 => #2. (Overtook Vaur) Need 0.02636908 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
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L20[06:59:59] <Corded> > <The P​atmann> Yes, we also want a bank card with the numbers on the back,…
L21[06:59:59] <ff​_66> i'm don't have a credit card sorry 😉
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L25[10:15:03] <Amanda> I guess I'm just awake now
L26[10:21:55] <Forec​aster> or are you
L27[10:22:48] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: make wallabag be only in the tailnet again
L28[10:27:40] <Amanda> I am indeed
L29[10:42:41] <Izzy> tailscale?
L30[10:44:57] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L31[10:44:58] <MichiBot> Darn! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 58 minutes and 12 seconds (By 2 hours, 29 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L32[10:44:59] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.60661908. Position #1
L33[10:52:20] <Amanda> indeed
L34[10:52:37] <Amanda> And my whole homelab is suddenly bursting into flames it seems
L35[10:52:54] <Amanda> bai-hu-lxc-a was a whole 4GB behind in replication
L36[10:55:17] <Liizzi​i-chan> Wow there's a lot of shit in the .cache dir of my laptop
L37[10:56:09] <Amanda> You should check your houses plumbing, then. :P
L38[11:05:51] <ff​_66> should I be happy if Minecraft uses around 500 MiB of RAM in the game?
L39[11:06:25] <ff​_66> on a 64-bit VM btw
L40[11:06:40] <ff​_66> * JVM btw
L41[11:07:17] <Izzy> does tailscale do dynamic IP allocation?
L42[11:07:34] <Amanda> Izzy: once you're connected it's fixed, but yes
L43[11:07:35] <Lizzy> somewhat, yeah
L44[11:07:51] <Amanda> On first init it's assigned one
L45[11:07:54] <Amanda> also you can manually change them
L46[11:08:00] <Izzy> neat
L47[11:08:09] <Izzy> might be worth looking into for remote clients for my net
L48[11:09:04] <Lizzy> i should probably use tailscale again, would be useful for allowing my mobile to connect back to my home server for stuff when i'm out and about (and having something automatically handle NAT fuckiness is nice)
L49[11:10:35] <Izzy> I'm using a manually configured WireGuard net between my pfSense firewalls for inter-site comms but that doesn't scale terribly well
L50[11:11:34] <Izzy> wouldn't want to try to manage clients on there
L51[11:12:00] <Lizzy> yeah, essentially what i'm doing, though my home server doesn't have a link anymore since i switched it from proxmox to truenas. HomeAssistant now has it's own wireguard tunnel back to my webserver container on my dedi so i can control stuff remotely
L52[11:13:11] <Lizzy> i kinda wish there was a version of wireguard that did layer2 stuff. I know you can get that by running L2TP over wireguard but you've just got more and more layers to undo at the other end so throughput sucks
L53[11:15:51] <Izzy> you can run tinc in L2 mode for that but it's not going to perform as well as wireguard
L54[11:16:00] <Izzy> might perform better than stacking stuff on top of wg though
L55[11:17:03] <Lizzy> yeah, though i think for the stuff i'd be using it for, just doing L3 and having it route rather than bridge would be best
L56[11:17:58] <Izzy> mmmh
L57[11:18:20] <Izzy> would be nice to be able to do DHCP and such over it easily
L58[11:18:23] <Izzy> oh well
L59[11:18:32] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/5bd6411f12c6920c56713672de32f3bdfcdca04b6f296a20ddd40849fbe2b24a.png
L60[11:19:42] <Lizzy> depending on cost savings and other factors, at work we might be ditching our 1gig inter-site links between at least our 3 sites with their own internet and doing the inter-site traffic over the internet connections. though that's dependent on said internet lines going from 1Gig to 5-10Gig (which might be a mostly-free upgrade for us depending on
L61[11:19:42] <Lizzy> what our provider does). at those kinda speeds i have a feeling tinc wouldn't keep up and we'd need kernel wireguard for it
L62[11:20:32] <Izzy> or a monster CPU for it, I imagine
L63[11:21:57] <Izzy> I guess I have it easy because I'm pretty sure even a haswell i5 could saturate a 20Mbps connection
L64[11:23:37] <Lizzy> yeah, right now the plan is to do a test / set up the stuff with some old NUCs in a "failover" thing, where performance isn't as huge a concern as just having connectivity. but if we're getting 10Gig internet at at least 3 of our sites, then we could save about £30k from that (i think, not sure if it's us or Jisc that saves money). Downside is
L65[11:23:37] <Lizzy> that 3 other sites don't have their own internet and rely on one of our 3 "main sites" to get connections
L66[11:24:35] <Izzy> you can do uhhhh OSPF over wireguard
L67[11:25:08] <Lizzy> yep, OSPF over wireguard is exactly how my dedi-to-home-server link worked when my home server was still on PVE
L68[11:25:33] <Lizzy> if it pans out that we get >1Gig internet at all of our sites (or just 1gig for the ones that don't need a whole lot), then with the money we save we can probably get some (relatively) cheap but fast servers to act as the "inter-site relay points"
L69[11:29:20] * Amanda teaches Elfi that the real friends was the national security threats you made along the way
L70[11:29:34] <Amanda> s/threats/"threats"/
L71[11:41:36] <stephanj> Lizzy, Izzy: you could have a look at OpenVPN with the recent DCO kernel module, which does wireguard like offloading of the datachannel traffic & encryption but with L2/L3 support and all OpenVPN benefits
L72[11:41:55] <Lizzy> hmmm, interesting
L73[11:41:56] <Izzy> oooo
L74[11:50:03] <nadja> Lizzy, Izzy: you could also do IPsec plus e.g. GRE, if you want L2 nets you're throwing away all wg routing info anyway and IPsec in transport mode has the least overhead possible (and is entirely Kernel side with good hardware offloading support too)
L75[11:51:11] <Lizzy> hmm
L76[11:52:34] <Lizzy> in other news, the tailscale app in truenas is being a bitch and wont set itself up properly... .-.
L77[12:01:30] <Amanda> Speaking of .-. Meow!
L78[12:01:54] * Amanda curls up in Lizzy's lap, meows again for attention and the access codes to the nuclear launch sites
L79[12:03:11] <Izzy> ah yes
L80[12:03:54] * Lizzy gives Amanda scritches, provides codes for some place entirely unrelated
L81[12:06:07] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/2c1aa64b94155e7b86fa599e180ffe9675d203da4784669440fc6ddabec0d836.jpg
L82[12:06:24] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L83[12:06:25] <MichiBot> Wut! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 21 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L84[12:06:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 21 minutes and 26 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00136 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.03850908 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L85[12:08:22] <Amanda> Hrm, weird that the nukes would use 113...
L86[12:14:04] <Amanda> Elfi: I didn't know that the fae did philosophy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson's_lamp
L87[12:15:23] <Amanda> %isup wallabag.dojo-rudd.ts.net
L88[12:15:24] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: https is DOWN (Might be using untrusted certificates)
L89[12:15:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: http is UP
L90[12:15:28] <Amanda> Hrm
L91[12:15:37] <Amanda> It should be down on both...
L92[12:17:14] <Forec​aster> %choose another kebab today just cuz or sensible food
L93[12:17:15] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You hear a faraway lamp yell "sensible food!".
L94[12:17:23] <Forec​aster> aw
L95[12:17:24] <Lizzy> kebab
L96[12:17:50] <Amanda> What about kebabs is nonsensical?
L97[12:18:19] <Forec​aster> sensible as in "food I already have at home"
L98[12:18:34] <Lizzy> Amanda, it would appear that url is returning a 302 code to the https version of the url
L99[12:18:38] <Amanda> If you go out and pick up a kebab, you'll have kebab at home
L100[12:18:44] <Amanda> Lizzy: ah, that's fine then.
L101[12:18:54] <Forec​aster> yeah but I don't have it at home right now
L102[12:19:03] <Forec​aster> also it's expensive
L103[12:19:08] <Lizzy> https seems to connect, but then just gets cut off
L104[12:19:21] <Amanda> Probably just cached DNS then.
L105[12:19:23] <Lizzy> at least if i'm reading curl's output correctly
L106[12:19:37] <Amanda> I turned tailscale funnel off for that domain, so I assume it's just not been removed from the dns yet
L107[12:19:37] <Lizzy> yeah, trying to go to some 209 address
L108[12:20:01] <Amanda> Eventually it just won't resolve anymore, I assume
L109[12:20:10] <Amanda> ( Outside my tailnet that is )
L110[12:20:21] <Va​ur> %sip
L111[12:20:21] <MichiBot> You drink a steady gold potion (New!). As Vaur drinks the potion they become the target of a wad of llama spit! They fail to evade it with a 7 vs DC 12 and takes 1d​4 => 4 damage.
L112[12:21:33] <Amanda> Yeah, taskd.dojo-rudd.ts.net is another thing that never had funnel enabled and it doesn't resolve outside my tailnet according to https://dnschecker.org
L113[12:22:13] <Lizzy> speaking of dns, i should check if DNS Made Easy is actually working now
L114[12:22:53] <Amanda> Hrm hrm
L115[12:23:00] <Amanda> I should get taskwarrior set up on my tablet
L116[12:23:09] <Lizzy> would appear not... yay
L117[12:46:28] <Forec​aster> %sip
L118[12:46:28] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling aether potion (New!). Forecaster falls into a shaft and drop 3 floors!
L119[12:46:35] <Forec​aster> ow
L120[12:54:21] <Forec​aster> hm, I do need to go the store to get some cheese, which happens to be right next to the kebab place...
L121[13:01:20] <Va​ur> %sip
L122[13:01:20] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly jumbonium potion (New!). Vaur grows whiskers until someone turns off a lamp.
L123[13:03:21] <Lizzy> cheesy kebab
L124[13:20:51] <lunar_sam> trying to get cpioldr working and uh
L125[13:20:51] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/NfulBliyyeNoqjezGvBCfvZhjKPMMw8acs0zchMA/68a1f485-3ead-4521-b8af-bd6e077ecb7a.png
L126[13:21:06] <lunar_sam> _huh_
L127[13:23:11] <lunar_sam> ohhh
L128[13:23:14] <lunar_sam> that's why it's not working
L129[13:23:30] <lunar_sam> ...dir listing isn't working
L130[13:23:36] <lunar_sam> that's annoying
L131[13:34:16] <Forec​aster> I just went to the store and when I game back there was a kebab following me, strange
L132[13:34:35] * Lizzy steals the kebab
L133[13:34:48] <Forec​aster> Also it was 50 degrees in the car (122F)
L134[13:37:25] <Elfi> Amanda: That is not the work of the fae, especially not the moth fae! After all, why would we ever turn off lämp
L135[13:40:35] <Elfi> Anyway, it's a silly thought experiment, but for the sake of causing trouble my answer is "congratulations! you invented pulse width modulation, yes the lämp is half-on"
L136[13:53:21] <Forec​aster> I've never seen this before
L137[13:53:33] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722174813720.mp4
L138[13:58:04] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/tKDMInF2XeyIqytBUXzdUcZaOul0madsncnTEYoe/0875efb8-a8d1-4913-a7d8-45dc8cfac372.png
L139[13:58:08] <lunar_sam> THERE WE GO
L140[13:58:57] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/WGTiOuqdcIKHXrWcrbUdGklyd49KqMWlmmsyvXYe/20c85e35-b7b2-4b0d-9659-c59f4c943569.png
L141[13:58:57] <lunar_sam> oh
L142[13:59:13] <lunar_sam> oh wait i know what's wrong
L143[14:04:55] <lunar_sam> yippie it now works
L144[14:05:04] <lunar_sam> it kinda hangs for a bit on boot up and i'm not sure why but oh well
L145[14:05:21] <lunar_sam> it'll be fiiiine
L146[14:12:35] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/o5HcP5kA9RH2wSACmWXzsHvdbnac2mEMQVTq3FsE/Peek_2024-07-28_10-12.mp4
L147[14:18:57] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/Q5gfI19yRUVd1Hr37hDhlLpZN0l7Ym5XWBnC5ArL/7ef0286c-fb59-4f05-97ca-d29864719587.png
L148[14:18:57] <lunar_sam> :)
L149[15:09:02] <lunar_sam> okay installing openos via cpioldr requires at least 2x T1
L150[15:09:13] <lunar_sam> good to know
L151[15:09:41] <lunar_sam> i mean i could probably reduce the memory usage but then it'd be SLOW
L152[15:10:03] <lunar_sam> since it'd have to read through the entire cpio every time it does any sort of file access
L153[15:10:05] <lunar_sam> which would SUCK
L154[15:10:29] <lunar_sam> (i just load all the files into a table)
L155[15:10:31] <lunar_sam> well
L156[15:10:33] <lunar_sam> the file info
L157[15:10:41] <lunar_sam> like if it's a directory, the size, last modification, et c
L158[15:10:43] <lunar_sam> *etc
L159[15:10:54] <lunar_sam> oh also the starting position and the file position
L160[15:14:13] <Va​ur> %tonk
L161[15:14:14] <MichiBot> Wut! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 21 minutes and 26 seconds (By 1 hour, 46 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L162[15:14:14] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 7 minutes and 49 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00354 (0.00177 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3 => #2. (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.03637816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L163[15:29:06] <Forec​aster> ...great
L164[15:29:24] <Forec​aster> after the game forcibly removed all my weapons it also undid all my favourites
L165[15:30:30] <Forec​aster> love when games do that
L166[15:49:16] <Amanda> Elfi: of course! I forgot about that!
L167[15:58:14] * Amanda offers Elfi some iced coffee to soak in
L168[17:15:13] <Forec​aster> TIL if you grab an enemy and drag them in front of a friendly turret it will shoot at them... and you...
L169[17:20:03] <Forec​aster> so uh, don't do that!
L170[17:30:47] <Amanda> Just need to be smaller so that more bullets hit them than you!
L171[17:55:29] <Forec​aster> and my favourites are gone again...
L172[17:55:30] <Forec​aster> great
L173[17:55:32] <Forec​aster> 😐
L174[18:11:21] <Forec​aster> oh... uh, and my hair isn't red anymore... that's weird
L175[18:12:59] <Amanda> You must have washed that grunt's blood out
L176[18:27:17] <Forec​aster> but it was supposed to be red D:
L177[18:46:41] <Forec​aster> huh, according to character customization it still is
L178[18:46:53] <Forec​aster> probably be fixed after the next start
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L180[19:08:36] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722193716386.png
L181[19:08:40] <Forec​aster> called my vehicle and this happened...
L182[19:08:47] <Forec​aster> nice job game
L183[19:09:15] <Amanda> I couldn't have parked it better!
L184[19:12:58] <Forec​aster> funniest part is there was no crash or anything, it just kinda drove up there like it was regular road
L185[19:22:53] <ff​_66> i also love BeamNG.drive traffic. if you go on the italy map, the AIs don't know how to turn in Castelletto, and they'll often get stuck because of the house's corner
L186[19:36:19] <ff​_66> and also don't make a permanent force with the node grabber on one ai car, it will break some AI cars as soon as you unload it
L187[19:37:16] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L188[19:38:48] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk time?
L189[19:38:48] <MichiBot> Swell! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 7 minutes and 49 seconds (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L190[19:38:49] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 4 hours, 24 minutes and 34 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00512 (0.00128 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L191[19:41:33] <Corded> > <Forec​aster>
L192[19:41:33] <Flamei​ngsoul> think that car needs iether privacy with the smaller one or some oil
L193[19:41:37] <Flamei​ngsoul> aybe gas
L194[19:51:49] <Forec​aster> The smaller car's a wreck
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L197[19:58:09] <Forec​aster> The implications of this are... unpleasant
L198[19:58:30] <ff​_66> but what is *this* ?
L199[19:58:57] <Forec​aster> Anything you imagine
L200[20:00:07] <ff​_66> what happen if i imagine myself then ?
L201[20:02:12] <Forec​aster> The implications of this are...... still unpleasant
L202[20:05:59] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> The implications of this are... unpleasant
L203[20:05:59] <Na​dja> Fore, stop making everything about Sex 🤢
L204[20:09:27] <Forec​aster> Is worse than that but okay
L205[20:15:07] <Forec​aster> Although I didn't say anything about sex
L206[21:44:06] <Forec​aster> * It's worse than that but okay
L207[22:42:10] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> called my vehicle and this happened...
L208[22:42:10] <S​3> I stared at this for like 60 seconds going, "How did this happen?" Thinking it was an RL photo
L209[22:42:43] <Amanda> glitch in the matrix
L210[22:43:08] <S​3> How is Amanda today
L211[22:43:29] <Va​ur> %sip
L212[22:43:29] <MichiBot> You drink a sans-serif bavarium potion (New!). Vaur gains some curse. Vaur has 1 curse. (Rem. uses: 0)
L213[22:44:19] <Amanda> Pretty good, just did a heccen distrohop on my laptop, waiting for my ~ to restore
L214[22:45:14] <Amanda> ... and wondering it it's this distro, or KDE that defaults the screen scaling to 125%
L215[22:46:18] <Amanda> ... huh
L216[22:46:27] <Amanda> apparently my backups are backing up stuff I thought I told it not to
L217[22:46:50] <Amanda> %remindme 13h replace pika-backup with borgomatic
L218[22:46:50] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "replace pika-backup with borgomatic" in 13h at 07/29/2024 11:46:50 AM
L219[22:48:09] <Va​ur> %sip
L220[22:49:06] <Amanda> Oh, did I forget to %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion % today? Oh well, fixed.
L221[22:49:06] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable quicksilver potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a diamond sheep girl until they download a car.
L222[22:49:14] <Amanda> Elfi~ shep!
L223[22:49:24] * Amanda climbs into @Forecaster's wool
L224[22:49:37] <Va​ur> not just wool, diamond wool !
L225[22:49:55] <Amanda> Diamond-coloured!
L226[22:50:19] <Va​ur> doesn't say diamond colored, its diamond wool
L227[22:50:24] <Va​ur> you sheer and you get diamonds
L228[23:01:25] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300EAef1e67007C00653FC2eA3e53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L229[23:02:38] <Va​ur> %sip
L230[23:02:38] <MichiBot> You drink a simulated grass potion (New!). A swinging blade comes flying towards Vaur from nowhere! They fail to evade it with a 4 vs DC 16 and takes 1d​8 => 7 damage.
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