L1[00:35:49] <Va​ur> %tonk

L2[00:35:50] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 9 hours, 4 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L3[00:35:51] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 9 hours, 4 minutes and 26 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00907 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L9[02:06:35] <Izzy> lmao figures

L10[02:08:01] <Izzy> swapped out the nearest length with insulated wire

L12[03:28:07] <Amanda> Don't ask me how the cable being pulled out of the box-o-cat managed to grab my entire networking stack

L14[03:28:52] <Amanda> Night girls

L15[03:34:20] <Mim​iru> Ok, spun up a VPS in Seattle, maybe that'll help with the insane latency I was getting as I won't be crossing the US twice...

L16[03:34:44] <Mim​iru> Unfortunatly I don't have an easy way to test ._>

L17[03:55:44] <S​3> I mean. You might be crossing the US twice anyways ahahaha

L18[03:56:50] <Mim​iru> a tracert shows it going basically straight to Seattle

L19[03:57:52] <S​3> We have rings here that will go around the entire loop once just because they're unidirectional and your packets can route all the way across a state and back just to get to your friend that uses an adjacent ISP in town, and those binders are layer 1 routing, so you can't see them

L20[03:58:36] <S​3> You're only going to see the layer 3 boundaries with traceroute

L21[03:59:00] <S​3> If they respond and don't mess with the ttl

L22[03:59:43] <Mim​iru> Other than the one hop at 13-24 MS, and the timeouts which isn't uncommon, I'm doubting I'm going too far. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699847983106.png

L23[04:03:43] <Mim​iru> Which is better than: https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1699848223606.png

L24[04:04:50] <S​3> At least where I work we have a three ring binder that goes both directions, so to get to other sections of the state, the dwdm connections can forward layer 1 mediums to the nearest border instead of going all the way around

L25[04:07:01] <S​3> Oh hey ovh

L26[04:08:15] <Mim​iru> Yes, current VPS is OVH Canada east coast.

L27[04:08:26] <Mim​iru> new VPS is Vultr ~3 hours away from me.

L28[04:11:11] <S​3> Well there now you just need to fly in every time there's a problem

L29[05:16:48] <Forec​aster> %sip

L30[05:16:48] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny salmon potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...

L31[05:50:57] <CompanionCube> Izzy: huh floodgap seemingly uses AIX, an unexpected choice

L32[05:58:25] <CompanionCube> also at first glanced i assumed 'ppc' meant powerpc, whereas the actual meaning is much more interesting...

L33[06:02:11] <CompanionCube> o.o at that star trek project, that's pretty out-there even if it never actually happened

L34[06:47:23] <CompanionCube> Izzy: but yes very interesting and my kind of thing indeed. That stuff about seemingly (but not actually) random C compiler features leaves room for shenanigans involving OS/400 (or i) PASE, which is binary-compatible with AIX and obviously supports xlC - PUB400 is obviously on the WAN but still... Speaking of that, the smit menus have a pretty similar vibe which is probably deliberate,

L35[06:47:23] <CompanionCube> the tie in with applescript/apple events also reminded me of NeWS but applescript has no relation to postscript, then there's the never-attempted idea i had involving classic mac, lisp warez, and find-the-difference of machine architecture versions.

L36[06:55:09] <CompanionCube> %tonkoit

L37[06:55:12] <CompanionCube> %tonkout

L38[06:55:13] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Compan​ionCube, you were not able to beat Va​ur's record of 9 hours, 4 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 6 hours, 19 minutes and 23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 45 minutes and 3 seconds!

L41[07:55:38] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/73ec.png

L42[08:19:21] <CompanionCube> (oh, might as well ask what aspects make it specifically my kind of cursed?)

L43[08:54:53] <Izzy> there's something *wrong* about Big IBM Computers(TM) in the same context as Apple

L44[09:13:59] <CompanionCube> eh, 'big

L45[09:14:03] <Kristo​pher38> i read that as "Big IBM Opencomputers(TM" and was wondering "wait is this a thing now?

L46[09:14:14] <CompanionCube> eh, 'big' would be mainframes, no?

L47[09:16:19] <stephan48> @Mimiru, the VPS was in Canada?! No wonder you had issues! You packages had to be checked at the border afterall! DUH!

L48[09:16:29] <stephan48> Your*

L49[09:20:31] <CompanionCube> (oh, and forgot to include 'emulating a nubus device' in that list of things about the never-implemented idea)

L50[09:29:09] <Izzy> this is true, but it's still bigger than anything Apple would normally sell

L51[09:36:46] <CompanionCube> true

L52[10:18:42] <Izzy> Anyone screwed around with the OpenOS install util? Is there a super lightweight way I could run some extra commands once the install is completed?

L53[13:16:09] <Izzy> okay I think I have my cursed system worked out

L54[13:18:05] <Izzy> run a script as part of the shrc, which will check the free space on /. if there's >=64K, unpack the goodies archive to / and remove the script from shrc. if there isn't, unpack it to /tmp and symlink the contents into the filesystem in the appropriate locations

L55[13:20:52] <Izzy> after compressing the manual pages, minitel, oppm, rica, etc, I've actually gained 10K of free space on a 512K floppy

L56[13:23:05] <Izzy> ... hmm, actually, that won't work, as I have about 128K of data in the archive

L57[13:23:25] <Izzy> hey lunar_sam maybe we're doing pkgfs early

L58[13:24:28] <Izzy> ... okay no if I do the manual pages separately that's 40K saved

L59[13:26:05] <Izzy> software only takes 51K, which will fit in the tmpfs. excellent.

L60[13:26:26] <Izzy> the manuals can have a separate archive

L61[14:06:55] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/0ec5.png

L63[15:03:08] <Izzy> Anyone know how wide an OpenPrinter page can be? They're wider than Minecraft books, at least

L64[15:06:00] <Mim​iru> 30 characters?

L65[15:06:02] <Mim​iru> I think

L66[15:06:48] <Izzy> oh, so it's not dependent on the width of the characters, okay

L67[15:07:29] <Mim​iru> `parts[0] = limit(parts[0],30);` I was lazy

L68[15:07:42] <Izzy> also how the hell does centreing text work

L69[15:08:04] <Mim​iru> barely.

L70[15:08:05] <Izzy> do I just put "center" as the third argument?

L71[15:08:42] <Mim​iru> yes, again, I was lazy

L72[15:09:59] <Izzy> how many lines can I do on one page?

L73[15:10:36] <Mim​iru> 20 iirc

L74[15:16:07] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/1464.jpg

L75[15:19:11] <Mim​iru> Nice

L76[15:20:42] <Izzy> I think the titles got a little confused https://shadowkat.net/tmp/60fc.jpg

L77[16:31:31] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L78[16:31:33] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 9 hours, 4 minutes and 26 seconds (By 31 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L79[16:31:34] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.016 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.91473842, Position #1

L80[16:31:48] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> I think the titles got a little confused https://shadowkat.…

L81[16:31:48] <Va​ur> looking good

L82[17:01:09] <Mim​iru> Can safely say I've never seen that :/

L83[18:00:20] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L84[18:00:22] <MichiBot> By my throth! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 28 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L85[18:00:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 28 minutes and 48 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00148 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.14701 more points to pass Va​ur!

L86[19:32:28] <DiamondC​reeper_6> is there a 1.12.2 mod that makes all mobs attack each other even when unprovoked?

L87[20:14:04] <Forec​aster> Why would you want that

L88[20:43:54] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://mailbox.org/en/post/warning-new-outlook-sends-passwords-mails-and-other-data-to-microsoft

L89[20:43:59] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> M$ is at it again.

L90[20:52:20] <Amanda> [ Fry shocked dot apng ]

L91[20:53:01] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Why would you want that

L92[20:53:01] <DiamondC​reeper_6> to spice up the game

L93[21:02:56] <Forec​aster> It just sounds like a way to have stuff littered everywhere

L94[21:12:37] <DiamondC​reeper_6> items disappear in 5 minutes

L95[21:12:40] <DiamondC​reeper_6> no worries

L96[21:17:14] <Izzy> Mimiru: this pack does have Optifine and I'm too lazy to test elsewhere so let's blame that for now

L97[21:20:44] <Amanda> Izzy: what pack? the one the person from the other day was talking about?

L98[21:20:53] <Izzy> yeah

L99[21:20:54] <Amanda> Or are you computers now in the SKS v10

L100[21:21:01] <Amanda> What's it called again?

L101[21:21:13] <Izzy> https://oc.cil.li/topic/2420-roleplay-server-with-computers-geopolitics-transport-and-a-wip-economy/

L102[21:21:29] <Izzy> in v10 I am Very Close to computers, we have power, we have the materials, I just have to make the things

L104[21:34:11] <Izzy> goddamn technic is awful

L105[21:34:26] <Izzy> like 8 tries to download the pack and it fails pretty consistently

L106[21:35:57] <Izzy> guess I'll try the technic launcher to see if it's any better

L107[21:36:06] <Izzy> (then import the pack into MultiMC once it's finished downloading)

L108[21:38:54] <Amanda> I'm pretty sure it's not downloading from technic servers int he first place. The discord mentions using a "modpack maker" and the downloads seemed to go there a lot

L109[21:39:17] <Amanda> https://solder.cloud/

L110[21:39:38] <Izzy> Solder was the packupdate-like made by Technic

L111[21:39:42] <Amanda> ah

L112[21:39:59] <Izzy> It also predated packupdate by like 5 years but

L113[21:40:01] <Izzy> :D

L114[21:40:33] <Izzy> yeah the technic launcher didn't get stuck once

L115[21:40:59] <Izzy> aight guess I'll add a prelaunch command to copy over the files

L116[21:41:30] <Amanda> Seemed to download it all fine for me, unless Prism just silently died

L117[21:41:41] <Amanda> Might be an aussie internet moment though

L118[21:42:02] <Izzy> every time I've tried to install/update the pack it took a good few goes

L119[21:58:09] <S​3> @Ocawesome101 I solved the Minecraft segfault issue!

L120[22:00:07] <S​3> It was GLFW for sure. The GLFW shipped with Minecraft before 1.20.2 is bad with my hardware. It's calling unsupported functions even like I said, which is whack... But, you can get lwjgl to use a different GLFW API apparently and therefore use 3.x API calls. Wth?

L121[22:00:12] <S​3> It works fine then

L122[22:34:38] <Va​ur> %tonk

L123[22:34:39] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 28 minutes and 48 seconds (By 3 hours, 5 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L124[22:34:40] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 34 minutes and 17 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00618 (0.00309 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L125[22:53:24] <Mim​iru> *sigh* I want to try this damn VPN solution for the webserver.. but I ALSO DON'T want the fuckton of downtime while DNS unfucks itself.

L126[22:53:54] <Mim​iru> Found out DO will only let me update 250 reconds a minute via their API, and the damn Plesk plugin for DODNS doesn't rate limit

L127[22:54:00] <Mim​iru> just runs the ENTIRE thing in one go

L128[22:55:31] <Mim​iru> * records a minute via their API, and the damn Plesk plugin for DODNS doesn't rate limit

L131[23:12:58] <Kristo​pher38> Izzy: Prism 6.3 still supports technic modpacks

L132[23:13:04] <Kristo​pher38> in fact this is the last version that does

L133[23:14:18] <Kristo​pher38> it got removed because technic devs got pissy about it

L134[23:26:59] <Amanda> %choose rain box or cubes

L135[23:27:00] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp suddenly screams "cubes!" such that it's barely audible.