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L1[00:02:29] <PHO​BOSS> hello again. I need help. I keep getting repeated replies from my drone. I checked and made it "setStatusText" how many times it replied but it said it only did it once. I would've blamed it on a switch block but I'm using a tablet.
L2[00:02:29] <Corded> on my tablet I use event.listener and a handler method:
L3[00:02:29] <Corded> `
L4[00:02:29] <Corded> msg_reaction = {
L5[00:02:30] <Corded> ["pkme"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L6[00:02:30] <Corded> print("pick me: "..r_add)
L7[00:02:30] <Corded> print("groupSize b4: "..groupSize)
L8[00:02:30] <Corded>
L9[00:02:31] <Corded> groupSize=groupSize+1
L10[00:02:31] <Corded> print("groupSize after: "..groupSize)
L11[00:02:31] <Corded> end,
L12[00:02:32] <Corded> ["actv"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...) print("active") end
L13[00:02:32] <Corded> }
L14[00:02:33] <Corded> function msg_handler(evt,l_add,r_add,port,dist,msg,...)
L15[00:02:33] <Corded> msg_reaction[msg](l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L16[00:02:34] <Corded> end
L17[00:02:34] <Corded> event.listen("modem",msg_handler)`
L18[00:02:35] <Corded> on my drone:
L19[00:02:35] <Corded> `local cc = 1
L20[00:02:36] <Corded> acts = {
L21[00:02:36] <Corded> ["go"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x00FF00) Qd.setStatusText(navMoveToPlayer(tag)) end,
L22[00:02:37] <Corded> ["bzz"] =
L23[00:02:37] <Corded> function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x0000FF) Qd.setStatusText(navSwarmPlayer(tag)) end,
L24[00:02:38] <Corded> ["move"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) move(x,y,z) end,
L25[00:02:38] <Corded> ["inv"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0xFFAABB) Qm.send(r_add,QueensChannel,"pkme") Qd.setStatusText(tostring(cc)) cc=cc+1 end,
L26[00:02:39] <Corded> ["HUSH"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) computer.shutdown() end
L27[00:02:40] <Corded> }
L28[00:02:40] <Corded> Qd.setAcceleration(100)
L29[00:02:41] <Corded> local cmd,tag,x,y,z
L30[00:02:41] <Corded> while true do
L31[00:02:42] <Corded> _,_,r_add,_,_,cmd,tag,x,y,z = computer.pullSignal(0.5)
L32[00:02:42] <Corded> if
L33[00:02:43] <Corded> Qd.name():match("^Q%d+$") then
L34[00:02:43] <Corded> if acts[cmd] then
L35[00:02:44] <Corded> acts[cmd](r_add,tag,x,y,z)
L36[00:02:44] <Corded> end
L37[00:02:45] <Corded> end
L38[00:02:45] <Corded> Qd.setLightColor(0xFFAF00)
L39[00:02:46] <Corded> end` https://tinyurl.com/yay87pde&lt;PHO​BOSS> hello again. I need help. I keep getting repeated replies from my drone. I checked and made it "setStatusText" how many times it replied but it said it only did it once. I would've blamed it on a switch block but I'm using a tablet.
L40[00:02:46] <Corded> on my tablet I use event.listener and a handler method:
L41[00:02:47] <Corded> `
L42[00:02:47] <Corded> msg_reaction =
L43[00:02:48] <Corded> {
L44[00:02:48] <Corded> ["pkme"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L45[00:02:49] <Corded> print("pick me: "..r_add)
L46[00:02:49] <Corded> print("groupSize b4: "..groupSize)
L47[00:02:50] <Corded> groupSize=groupSize+1
L48[00:02:50] <Corded> print("groupSize after: "..groupSize)
L49[00:02:51] <Corded> end,
L50[00:02:51] <Corded> ["actv"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...) print("active") end
L51[00:02:52] <Corded> }
L52[00:02:52] <Corded> function msg_handler(evt,l_add,r_add,port,dist,msg,...)
L53[00:02:53] <Corded> msg_reaction[msg](l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L54[00:02:53] <Corded> end
L55[00:02:54] <Corded> event.listen("modem",msg_handler)`
L56[00:02:54] <Corded> on
L57[00:02:55] <Corded> my drone:
L58[00:02:55] <Corded> `local cc = 1
L59[00:02:56] <Corded> acts = {
L60[00:02:56] <Corded> ["go"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x00FF00) Qd.setStatusText(navMoveToPlayer(tag)) end,
L61[00:02:57] <Corded> ["bzz"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x0000FF) Qd.setStatusText(navSwarmPlayer(tag)) end,
L62[00:02:57] <Corded> ["move"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) move(x,y,z) end,
L63[00:02:58] <Corded> ["inv"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0xFFAABB) Qm.send(r_add,QueensChannel,"pkme") Qd.setStatusText(tostring(cc)) cc=cc+1 end,
L64[00:02:58] <Corded> ["HUSH"] =
L65[00:02:59] <Corded> function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) computer.shutdown() end
L66[00:02:59] <Corded> }
L67[00:03:00] <Corded> Qd.setAcceleration(100)
L68[00:03:00] <Corded> local cmd,tag,x,y,z
L69[00:03:01] <Corded> while true do
L70[00:03:01] <Corded> _,_,r_add,_,_,cmd,tag,x,y,z = computer.pullSignal(0.5)
L71[00:03:02] <Corded> if Qd.name():match("^Q%d+$") then
L72[00:03:02] <Corded> if acts[cmd] then
L73[00:03:03] <Corded> acts[cmd](r_add,tag,x,y,z)
L74[00:03:03] <Corded> end
L75[00:03:04] <Corded> end
L76[00:03:04] <Corded> Qd.setLightColor(0xFFAF00)
L77[00:03:05] <Corded> end` https://tinyurl.com/ycrrwhm5
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L79[00:06:47] <Amanda> PLease use three `'s for large blocks liek that
L80[00:07:44] <PHO​BOSS> sorry
L81[00:07:57] <Amanda> It really does not bridge well otherwise
L82[00:08:09] <Amanda> Don't edit the message to fix it now, it's already done
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L86[01:05:01] <PHO​BOSS> I don't know what I did but I fixed it:
L87[01:05:01] <Corded> Tablet:
L88[01:05:01] <Corded> ```
L89[01:05:01] <Corded> local groupSize=0
L90[01:05:02] <Corded> local group={}
L91[01:05:02] <Corded> msg_reaction = {
L92[01:05:02] <Corded> ["pkme"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L93[01:05:02] <Corded> print("pick me: "..r_add)
L94[01:05:03] <Corded> print("groupSize b4: "..groupSize)
L95[01:05:03] <Corded> groupSize=groupSize+1
L96[01:05:03] <Corded> print("groupSize after: "..groupSize)
L97[01:05:04] <Corded> end,
L98[01:05:04] <Corded> ["actv"] = function(l_add,r_add,port,dist,...) print("active") end
L99[01:05:05] <Corded> }
L100[01:05:05] <Corded>
L101[01:05:06] <Corded> function
L102[01:05:07] <Corded> msg_handler(evt,l_add,r_add,port,dist,msg,...)
L103[01:05:07] <Corded> msg_reaction[msg](l_add,r_add,port,dist,...)
L104[01:05:08] <Corded> end
L105[01:05:08] <Corded> event.listen("modem_message",msg_handler)
L106[01:05:09] <Corded> ```
L107[01:05:09] <Corded> Drone:
L108[01:05:10] <Corded> ```
L109[01:05:10] <Corded> local cc = 1
L110[01:05:11] <Corded> acts = {
L111[01:05:11] <Corded> ["go"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x00FF00) Qd.setStatusText(navMoveToPlayer(tag)) end,
L112[01:05:12] <Corded> ["bzz"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) Qd.setLightColor(0x0000FF) Qd.setStatusText(navSwarmPlayer(tag)) end,
L113[01:05:12] <Corded> ["move"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) move(x,y,z) end,
L114[01:05:13] <Corded> ["inv"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z)
L115[01:05:13] <Corded> Qd.setLightColor(0xFFAABB)
L116[01:05:14] <Corded> Qm.send(r_add,QueensChannel,"pkme")
L117[01:05:14] <Corded> Qd.setStatusText(tostring(cc))
L118[01:05:15] <Corded> cc=cc+1
L119[01:05:15] <Corded> end,
L120[01:05:16] <Corded> ["HUSH"] = function(r_add,tag,x,y,z) computer.shutdown() end
L121[01:05:16] <Corded> }
L122[01:05:17] <Corded> ```
L123[01:05:17] <Corded> And I rebooted my tablet a few times. I think it was just lingering messages https://tinyurl.com/yay59z2y
L124[01:05:48] <Amanda> okay...
L125[01:06:12] <Amanda> Is it just my client, or did Forecaster break corded somehow? That didn't bridge fine either
L126[01:06:30] <Amanda> ( All of Michiyo's bot problems are to be forecaters fault )
L127[01:09:50] <Michiyo> what the actual fuck.
L128[01:10:18] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L129[01:10:18] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Mic​hiyo! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 22 minutes and 23 seconds (By 43 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L130[01:10:19] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.78598, Position #2 Need 0.31683432 more points to pass Va​ur!
L131[01:11:01] <Amanda> Michiyo: look on the bright side, Corded is being smart enough to throttle it, so she's not getting kickbanned
L132[01:11:07] <Amanda> er, by an oper
L133[01:11:31] <Amanda> Or rather, I assume she is, since both times it happen I was looking away
L134[01:12:12] <Michiyo> roughly 1 msg/s
L135[01:12:44] <Michiyo> So... I THINK it broke because they had multiple sets of `'s in the message
L136[01:12:50] <Amanda> ah
L137[01:12:54] <Mic​hiyo> ```Testing```
L138[01:13:02] <Mic​hiyo> Or.. not
L139[01:13:07] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/adefeyoxuv
L140[01:13:16] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, that does work...
L141[01:13:17] <Amanda> Their first line they did it with just `'s not ```'s and it didn't detect it being more than 4 lines either
L142[01:13:27] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/esezapuvaf
L143[01:13:36] <Mic​hiyo> Alright...
L144[01:14:05] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/iyarugigum
L145[01:14:06] <Mic​hiyo> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xozisibalo
L146[01:14:13] <Michiyo> Hmm, no that works too
L147[01:14:14] <Michiyo> wtf.
L148[01:14:39] <Amanda> could it be because the image attached?
L149[01:14:49] <Mic​hiyo> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/fokuwiyamo
L150[01:15:03] <Amanda> I rmember she used to bridge that wrong, and then that was fixed, was that forgotten to be put through the filter?
L151[01:15:13] <Mic​hiyo> Ugh, yeah that could be it...
L152[01:15:29] <Mic​hiyo> ```
L153[01:15:41] <Michiyo> .. that just broke it 100% lol
L154[01:15:47] <Amanda> lol
L155[01:16:40] <Michiyo> But yeah.. I bet it's some odd interaction of attaching images that breaks it.
L156[01:19:04] <Amanda> %choose rain box or halucinate
L157[01:19:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "rain box".
L158[01:19:20] <Amanda> Wizards? Rainbox? Really? I guess they _are_ really smart
L159[01:58:58] <DaCompu​terNerd> %tonk
L160[01:58:58] <MichiBot> Woooo! DaCompu​terNerd! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of <0 (By 48 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L161[01:58:59] <MichiBot> DaComputerNerd's new record is 48 minutes and 40 seconds! DaComputerNerd also gained 0.00081 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.03213 more points to pass Ko​dos!
L162[01:59:36] <DaCompu​terNerd> I didn't actually check that lol, I was going to %sip, got distracted, and tonked instead
L163[01:59:44] <DaCompu​terNerd> %sip
L164[01:59:44] <MichiBot> You drink a forked rubium potion (New!). DaComputerNerd grows slightly until the next time they hug someone.
L165[01:59:55] <DaCompu​terNerd> Well that's probably gonna be a bit
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L170[02:13:24] zsh sets mode: +v on jackie
L171[02:43:10] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a condensed crystal of evil intent
L172[02:43:10] * MichiBot accepts the condensed crystal of evil intent and adds it to her inventory
L173[02:43:19] <Amanda> Night nerds
L174[03:13:05] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It appears that even MS has trouble naming things.
L175[03:13:07] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/shlobj_core/nf-shlobj_core-pathyetanothermakeuniquename
L176[03:59:19] <Michiyo> %tonk
L177[03:59:19] <MichiBot> By my throth! Mic​hiyo! You beat DaCompu​terNerd's previous record of 48 minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour, 11 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L178[03:59:20] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 2 hours and 20 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00119 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.31564432 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L181[05:54:51] <lunar_sam> glass with care
L182[05:54:51] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/uNxqheKMYHkY8nxmcoyEwTKquFRKS8QWAni2172G/UvDqiA2vR96MbVMWhsib-A.jpg
L183[06:37:58] <Forec​aster> Glass with care
L184[06:43:02] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L185[06:43:03] <MichiBot> Darn! Forec​aster! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 2 hours and 20 seconds (By 43 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L186[06:43:04] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 43 minutes and 43 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00216 (0.00072 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.04185432 more points to pass Mic​hiyo!
L187[07:14:27] <Izaya> stand still while I glass you
L188[07:26:38] <Forec​aster> huh, apparently my powered USB hub doesn't have enough power for all the devices I have plugged in
L189[07:27:04] <Forec​aster> when I turn on my throttle and flight stick the last one was turning on then off immediately
L190[07:27:23] <Forec​aster> but if I turned off some other things both would stay on
L191[07:40:17] <Forec​aster> @Michiyo we're jumping back to the mining system, I don't know if you have Odyssey, but if you do you can come watch the jump
L192[07:40:32] <Mic​hiyo> ooh sure
L193[07:40:43] <Forec​aster> first jump in 11 minutes, next jump in about 30
L194[07:42:38] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y7cjegoz
L195[07:43:21] <Forec​aster> I'm in my private session if you want to meet up
L196[07:43:51] <Michiyo> I'm loading, may make it eventually
L197[07:44:24] <Michiyo> ... longest loading screen ever
L198[07:45:15] <Michiyo> Ok, or just crash
L199[07:46:11] <Forec​aster> there's no hurry, there will be a second jump either way
L200[07:46:53] <Michiyo> Yay, I'm in. What do I need to do to "watch the jump"
L201[07:47:10] <Forec​aster> if you're in your ship you have to disembark
L202[07:47:26] <Michiyo> Oh, right that's a thing now
L203[07:48:32] <Forec​aster> you wont make it here, but if you're on-foot somewhere in the carrier you'll just be "escorted" to a seat automatically when the timer gets close to zero
L204[07:48:42] <Forec​aster> well you might make it
L205[07:49:04] <Michiyo> I'm sitting in the command deck
L206[07:49:47] <Forec​aster> if you accept my team invitation you can come up to the actual command deck for the second jump
L207[07:50:16] <Michiyo> Unfortunatly I seem to have no access to my UI right now
L208[07:50:53] <Forec​aster> yeah, but I saw a news post where they said they were probably going to address that later
L209[07:51:10] <Forec​aster> but that's why I said for the second jump 😛
L210[07:55:45] <Michiyo> *sigh* how the hell do I accept this lmao
L211[07:56:09] <Forec​aster> in the comms panel
L212[07:57:51] <Michiyo> My inbox is empty, I see your invites coming in via the chat tab
L213[07:58:00] <Michiyo> but I see no option to actually... accept it
L214[07:58:14] <Forec​aster> there you go
L215[07:58:16] <Michiyo> NVM, it FINALLY showed up with a check
L216[07:58:22] <Michiyo> What a pain in the ass
L217[07:58:38] <Forec​aster> I've never done it on foot so I have no idea how it looks
L218[08:01:26] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/ybfk75os
L219[08:03:22] <Forec​aster> Michiyo stand more to your right
L220[08:03:46] <Michiyo> That good?
L221[08:03:47] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y6vedykp
L222[08:03:58] <Michiyo> ha, nice
L223[08:04:43] <Forec​aster> This is what I see from first-person from my seat https://tinyurl.com/y8kgrpsz
L224[08:05:03] <Michiyo> lol
L225[08:07:27] <Forec​aster> Now I look a little more professional https://tinyurl.com/yapo7lrs
L226[08:17:22] <Forec​aster> ah nice
L227[08:17:42] <Forec​aster> the carrier is oriented so that you can see the gas giant from the lounge https://tinyurl.com/ycyjfweh
L228[08:20:40] <Michiyo> Yeah, that's quiet the view
L229[08:21:16] <Forec​aster> since we're in a team currently you should also be able to go to my ship hangar
L230[08:28:36] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/gZd7oDwQpgHdJnQ
L231[08:28:39] <Michiyo> I seem to be stuck lol
L232[08:29:09] <Forec​aster> it'll probably catch up?
L233[08:31:54] <Forec​aster> wait what, oh, this is not my mining ship...
L234[08:32:25] <Michiyo> lol...
L235[08:32:29] <Michiyo> I'm still stuck BTW,
L236[08:32:49] <Forec​aster> try to exit to menu and go back in?
L237[08:33:07] <Michiyo> I have no input, my only option is to kill it via task manager
L238[08:33:28] <Michiyo> and at this point if I do that I'm likely to go to bed it's going on 2AM lol
L239[08:33:36] <Forec​aster> alt f4 might work
L240[08:34:05] <Forec​aster> if it hasn't recovered by now it probably wont
L241[08:34:34] <Forec​aster> now you disconnected
L242[08:34:47] <Forec​aster> up until now you were still in your seat 😛
L243[08:35:50] <Michiyo> Yeah, I ended up having to task mgr it
L244[08:38:07] <Forec​aster> I'm gonna have to re-bind most of my controls 😐
L245[08:38:12] <Forec​aster> Dangit E:D
L246[08:38:26] <Michiyo> yeah, that's my problem.. I just got a new HOTAS, so NOTHING is right anymore
L247[08:38:41] <Michiyo> I also have to learn wtf BUTTON 10 is...
L248[08:38:55] <Forec​aster> well, I have the same HOTAS, and nothing is right anymore
L249[08:38:57] <Michiyo> it's right next to button 3... but button 11 is on the stick.
L250[08:39:04] <Michiyo> and 10 is on the throttle...
L251[08:39:10] <Michiyo> and 2 is ALSO on the stick
L252[08:39:29] <Michiyo> I have a image with the button names on it that I keep up lol
L253[08:39:40] <Forec​aster> Mine has this thing, which makes this a non-issue 😛 https://tinyurl.com/ybmhvlog
L254[08:40:32] <Mic​hiyo> Oh.. hey.. that looks like this... https://tinyurl.com/y75an3uw
L255[08:40:32] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L256[08:40:56] <Forec​aster> yeah that's what I've got
L257[08:41:03] <Mic​hiyo> Same :P
L258[08:41:33] <Forec​aster> the settings programs interactive map is very nice
L259[08:42:00] <Forec​aster> click a button on the image, shows in list, click a button in the list, highlights on image
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L262[08:42:53] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yb8l9fth
L263[08:43:04] <Forec​aster> I also have this thing
L264[08:43:29] <Mic​hiyo> I've got a streamdeck that I'm going to see about setting up with E:D
L265[08:43:52] <Mic​hiyo> I also have voice attack, that works with Horizon... but seems broken in Odyssey
L266[08:44:21] <Forec​aster> I haven't used voiceattack in a long time now, I have so many controls now I don't need it XD
L267[08:46:03] <Izaya> wonder if E:D would want to talk to my steam controller now
L268[09:47:33] <For​est> >dequbed: <@909883978717204561> I distinctly remember talking to you about the topi…
L269[09:47:33] <For​est> Oh sorry i completely forgot 😅
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L271[10:07:32] <Forec​aster> %sip
L272[10:07:32] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy dilithium potion (New!). Forecaster has 2 research points. They figure out how to hack 0.09 tonk points for themselves! (Rem. uses: 0)
L273[10:07:41] <Forec​aster> Nice
L274[10:08:10] <Forec​aster> also %tonkout
L275[10:08:11] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 43 minutes and 43 seconds (By 41 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L276[10:08:12] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.84231568, Position #2 Need 0.26049864 more points to pass Va​ur!
L277[10:09:06] <Forec​aster> hm, potions that affect points should probably also check for position changes
L278[10:45:10] <For​est> %sip
L279[10:45:10] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy pearlpeas potion (New!). Forest gains the proportional strength of a cat until they recite the litany against fear.
L280[10:45:14] <For​est> This is a fun bot
L281[10:45:24] <For​est> Litany against fear?
L282[10:45:52] <Forec​aster> Fear is the mindkiller, fear is the little death that brings total oblivion
L283[10:46:53] <For​est> O
L284[10:47:13] <For​est> Hmmm idk if i wanna get rid of this effect-
L285[11:23:44] <Forec​aster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz5uNkNq7dM
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L287[11:59:48] <Inari> meow
L288[12:02:15] <Inari> Amanda: I love it
L289[12:02:59] <Amanda> Inari: you're going to have to remind me what I told
L290[12:03:21] <Inari> [13:59:48] *MichiBot* Amanda in #oc said: found one of your sock puppet accounts: https://twitter.com/GodanoMarco/status/1508074363136131076?t=lpeomv7iowZ0B4MqhUTwKg&s=19 on Mar 30 @ 23:41 UTC
L291[12:03:34] <Amanda> Ah right
L292[12:08:23] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L293[12:08:24] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing Amanda with the ring of unsettling coincidences. Amanda regains 1d6 => 5 hit points! Turns out the ring of unsettling coincidences's weakness was common water all along!
L294[12:08:45] <Inari> whta an unsettling coincidence
L295[12:08:48] <Inari> Amanda: you were wet?
L296[12:08:56] <Amanda> What ab unsettling--damn it Inari
L297[12:10:07] <Inari> :p
L298[12:10:44] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable blueberry potion
L299[12:10:44] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable blue potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a crimson dragon girl until their next sip of water.
L300[12:10:51] <Amanda> ohno
L301[12:10:55] * Amanda takes Elfi and runs
L302[12:10:56] <Inari> mwahahah
L303[12:30:02] * Amanda relocates Inari to the marshlands of Frodya
L304[12:36:09] <Inari> Amanda: I'll turn them into drylands
L305[12:37:24] <Amanda> But then you won't be a dragon girl anymore?
L306[12:37:37] <Amanda> also that's a lot of water to drink!
L307[12:38:00] <Inari> I'll dry them out wiht my fire breath of course..
L308[12:38:08] <Amanda> I see I see
L309[12:38:25] * Amanda beams inari to a marshlands of crude oil instead
L310[12:43:03] <Inari> ...
L311[12:45:25] <Forec​aster> why not just a lake
L312[13:02:13] <Forec​aster> Mining run done!
L313[13:02:53] <Forec​aster> hm, about 4.5 hours apparently
L314[13:04:39] <Forec​aster> Started out with 150 limpets, returning with 142 LTDs, 14 void opals, & 57 tritium
L315[13:04:48] <Forec​aster> 213t total, not a bad run
L316[13:07:30] <Forec​aster> total value according to the average is about 2 million credits, though the tritium is just fuel for the carrier
L317[13:13:35] <Va​ur> can't even start the launcher 😦
L318[13:13:54] <Forec​aster> re-install the launcher
L319[13:14:11] <Va​ur> already done, twice
L320[13:15:35] <Forec​aster> weird
L321[13:20:53] <Forec​aster> throw away your computer and get a new one
L322[13:21:02] <Forec​aster> that'll probably work
L323[13:28:32] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/y9fqohyz
L324[13:28:40] <luna​r_sam> when the Weasel is Wild
L325[14:06:58] * Amanda boops Inari, demands snacks in exchange for freedom
L326[14:15:19] <Forec​aster> %sip
L327[14:15:19] <MichiBot> You drink a rather rubium potion (New!). Forecaster grows a tail from a spaghetti until they stop thinking about it.
L328[14:15:27] <Forec​aster> huh...
L329[14:18:11] <Amanda> forecasster spaghetti monster
L330[14:27:50] * Amanda decides since Inari apparently doesn't want freedom, she should bother Elfi for noms
L331[14:28:06] <Forec​aster> I'm not entirely happy about having an edible tail.... which is making it difficult to stop thinking about
L332[14:28:30] <Amanda> I can give you a bigger problem to worry about, if you'd like?
L333[14:28:42] <Forec​aster> uh, no thanks > - >
L334[14:28:57] <Amanda> awww ~puts away her claws~
L335[14:30:20] <Elfi> I should eat something, huh...
L336[14:30:53] * Elfi lays on Amanda's back and zzzz
L337[14:31:29] * Amanda shifts slightly to get more comfortable, beams some noms in front of herself from Michiyo's fridge instead
L338[14:52:09] <Va​ur> %tonk
L339[14:52:09] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 43 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L340[14:52:10] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 43 minutes and 58 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00473 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L341[15:38:37] <Va​ur> fuck me, I think I know why
L342[15:42:34] <Forec​aster> Why
L343[15:53:46] <Va​ur> I think I disabled some outdated protocole for nms or lost ark
L344[15:58:17] <Forec​aster> huh
L345[15:59:52] <Va​ur> and fixed
L346[16:00:07] <Forec​aster> hooray
L347[16:01:40] <Va​ur> it was indeed me disabling old ciphering protocoles, I needed to enable tls 1.2
L348[16:02:10] <Va​ur> and force dot not to use those
L349[16:02:39] <Va​ur> part of my issue was that I told one version to use it, but not another
L350[16:27:51] <Amanda> %choose halucinate?
L351[16:27:51] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I'd advice against "halucinate" right now.
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L353[17:06:52] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> Is it actually possible to make a variadic `curry` function without creating and unpacking a table holding both sets of args every time the function is evaluated?
L354[17:06:58] <Aggressive ​Post-It Note> (in lua)
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L358[18:07:24] <Forec​aster> %sip
L359[18:07:25] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering white potion (New!). Forecaster's hair turn the color of bavarium until they recite the litany against fear.
L360[18:26:22] <Va​ur> %sip
L361[18:26:22] <MichiBot> You drink a molten pear potion (New!). Vaur suddenly forgets a random piece of trivia.
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L366[20:12:51] <Z0id​berg> I'm liking my new desk setup
L367[20:12:52] <Z0id​berg> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943224671183204374/957361817854832700/20220325_122827.png?width=556&height=417
L368[20:13:24] <Z0id​berg> Now I have my newer computer in the same room as my old one
L369[20:16:17] <For​est> %sip
L370[20:16:17] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth violet potion (New!). The potion bottle is suddenly on fire! Forest takes 1d​4 => 3 fire damage before letting go of it!
L371[20:16:24] <For​est> Oof-
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L373[20:56:52] <SickWhale> Hiya.
L374[20:57:11] <CompanionCube> %hello
L375[20:57:11] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L376[20:58:17] <SickWhale> Ok. So I came to clarify some stuff. I guess it was already talked about million times but oh well.
L377[20:59:00] <SickWhale> So OG oc, stuck on old mc version. Depending on mods which were not updated to 1.18. How important are those?
L378[21:00:04] <SickWhale> How useful would vanilla experience OC 1 would be in your opinion?
L379[21:00:31] <SickWhale> Dangit, used "would" twice. I'm no writer.
L380[21:01:04] <CompanionCube> useful for?
L381[21:01:48] <SickWhale> For use, I guess? Never got down into OC that much to even notice those dependencies.
L382[21:02:56] <SickWhale> One moment. I'll get an example.
L383[21:04:35] <SickWhale> Industrial craft.
L384[21:04:38] <SickWhale> It's stuck at 1.12
L385[21:04:53] <CompanionCube> well were you intending to use computers with said mods? there's your answer.
L386[21:05:15] <SickWhale> Is it possible to ditch all those?
L387[21:05:51] <CompanionCube> i don't think OC itself actually has any dependencies on other mods
L388[21:06:39] <SickWhale> Well. There is a lot of them on gradle actually.
L389[21:07:35] <CompanionCube> annotated as compileOnly in the build.gradle :)
L390[21:07:49] <SickWhale> Which generates problems on its own. :P
L391[21:08:23] <SickWhale> So coming back to the original question. Ditching all of that which isn't available for 1.18 would hurt general population or not? :p
L392[21:09:13] <CompanionCube> well you'd miss the support for such mods but that would be it?
L393[21:09:59] <SickWhale> That's why I ask you. I don't use that at all so I am trying to figure out who actually uses that integration.
L394[21:10:32] * CompanionCube has no idea
L395[21:11:11] <The P​atmann> Well, I don't know about Industrialcraft, but I happen to be a nuclearcraft user
L396[21:11:39] <SickWhale> That's also stuck in the past.
L397[21:11:39] <The P​atmann> That's not been ported to 1.18, and it's underhaul is struggling to get ported to 1.16
L398[21:12:04] <SickWhale> That's the biggest struggle as far as I can tell.
L399[21:12:20] <SickWhale> Dependency hell.
L400[21:12:56] <The P​atmann> A lot of it is dependent on how old minecraft worked
L401[21:13:39] <SickWhale> Nuclear is opensourced but that just makes it that much harder. :p
L402[21:13:55] <The P​atmann> Actually makes it easier tbh
L403[21:14:09] <SickWhale> Why is that?
L404[21:14:39] <The P​atmann> More people able to work on it, and the fact that you can fork it and make an expirimental ported version like the Raven Port for Underhaul is
L405[21:15:04] <The P​atmann> It's much less likely to die, unlike something like Reika's mods
L406[21:15:09] <SickWhale> Yeah, but that makes one exposed to the dependency hell directly.
L407[21:16:10] <The P​atmann> I mean, it's either that or not allow things to be dependent on other libraries. Resulting in the mods using internal libraries...
L408[21:16:13] <SickWhale> I checked what happened to oc in the past. Not the first approach to port oc and all of those failed (obviously). Before I do anything I'd like to just gather as much info as I can to get a clear picture. :p
L409[21:16:15] <The P​atmann> And that's a bit of a design hellscape
L410[21:16:18] <Michiyo> %tonk
L411[21:16:18] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Mic​hiyo! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 43 minutes and 58 seconds (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L412[21:16:19] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 6 hours, 24 minutes and 8 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00835 (0.00167 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.04679568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L413[21:16:33] <Michiyo> wait, when did... *sigh* lol
L414[21:17:23] <The P​atmann> I mean, I guess you could drop pretty much all the dependencies if you're porting
L415[21:17:39] <The P​atmann> And then just re-implement any that are updated for the appropriate version.
L416[21:17:51] <The P​atmann> Since god knows if they changed how things worked in that time
L417[21:18:13] <The P​atmann> [I personally hope Forge changed their Energy API to not use signed 32bit ints
L418[21:18:14] <The P​atmann> [I personally hope Forge changed their Energy API to not use signed 32bit ints] [Edited]
L419[21:18:15] <SickWhale> Makes sense from the dev POV not so much from users.
L420[21:18:34] <SickWhale> Does that even matter?
L421[21:18:57] <The P​atmann> I mean, all the user will see is whether or not you can integrate with those other mods
L422[21:19:13] <The P​atmann> If those mods don't exist in future versions, they won't see any of that stuff
L423[21:19:13] <SickWhale> That's the worst thing honestly. :D
L424[21:19:58] <The P​atmann> OC was pretty good about keeping things generic though, atleast from the User perspective
L425[21:21:39] <SickWhale> Ok. That's good to know. How long did other "port offering" people live before their unfortunate demise from IRC/Discord?
L426[21:22:12] <SickWhale> As I was saying before, I know that there were attempts to do this before. :D
L427[21:22:24] <The P​atmann> Dunno, not been here that long
L428[21:22:38] <The P​atmann> Hopefully one of the elders can respond >.>
L429[21:22:40] <SickWhale> Scala is one scary monster to tackle.
L430[21:22:56] <SickWhale> Whos idea was it to use it in there? xD
L431[21:25:03] <CompanionCube> lol
L432[21:26:28] <SickWhale> I mean, it's not a show stopper but it's annoying to convert back to java.
L433[21:27:12] <dequbed> OC1 was about having a Scala project so it kinda came as base requirement for snagar
L434[21:28:54] <SickWhale> But it was ditched in oc2 so it hindered oc dev a bit. Especially not that many people get functional programming at all. :p
L435[21:30:30] <SickWhale> Dont get me wrong, I do not belittle what was done, but not that many minecraft mods developers ever touched scala. :D
L436[21:30:34] <dequbed> No, no that wasn't it.
L437[21:30:56] <dequbed> You can rest assured that snagar is not exactly "hindered" by getting to use Scala.
L438[21:31:13] <SickWhale> Oh. That's not what I was talking about.
L439[21:31:19] <SickWhale> Scala is good in good hands.
L440[21:31:36] <SickWhale> But when it comes to open source stuff, especially open source, Scala is not that popular.
L441[21:31:50] <dequbed> [Citation needed]
L442[21:32:00] <SickWhale> Oh come on. :d
L443[21:32:03] <dequbed> No.
L444[21:32:30] <SickWhale> Take 20 random MC mods and look for scala.
L445[21:32:48] <SickWhale> Even minecraft mods tutorials tackle java by default.
L446[21:32:51] <dequbed> Ah yes I forgot that MC mods define the FOSS ecosystem, my bad.
L447[21:33:01] <SickWhale> What.
L448[21:33:16] <SickWhale> I was never even implying I am talking about a whole programming world.
L449[21:33:35] <dequbed> Ah sorry but that was exactly what I was getting from your messages
L450[21:34:06] <SickWhale> Nope. I am a programmer by profession and I understand it clearly that you choose the tool for the job.
L451[21:34:14] <SickWhale> In MC world is a bit different.
L452[21:34:32] <dequbed> Is it though?
L453[21:35:02] <SickWhale> Almost entirely, yes.
L454[21:35:07] <dequbed> Why?
L455[21:36:02] <SickWhale> Searching for any kind of tutorial defaults to java. Entry point is java for beginners. That's why I guess majority of mods are java native.
L456[21:36:27] <SickWhale> As fun as they are Kotlin and Scala are niche in MC world.
L457[21:36:30] <dequbed> Most JVM programs use Java by default for the same reason. So?
L458[21:37:04] <dequbed> I'm not disagreeing that most mods use Java. Just that that somehow makes the MC world special.
L459[21:37:47] <SickWhale> Erm. Well, MC was written in Java. That's what makes it JVM centric. :p
L460[21:38:07] <SickWhale> And going further it makes it Java centric.
L461[21:39:28] <dequbed> The former point is factually true, yes. What are you getting at?
L462[21:39:53] <SickWhale> Yo. It wasn't me that started this. I have no point at all. :D
L463[21:40:18] <SickWhale> It's just it's convinient to use Java to get people famimiar with MC mods to contribute.
L464[21:40:26] <CompanionCube> the obvious solution here is a minecraft mod in Armed Bear Common Lisp.
L465[21:41:27] <SickWhale> I could just roll JNI and ditch everything with Rust or something.
L466[21:41:31] <dequbed> SickWhale: Yeah but calling OC being "hindered" by Scala is going a bit far.
L467[21:42:10] <dequbed> Also oh great if this evolves into another annoying Rust fanboy I'll scream -.-
L468[21:42:25] <SickWhale> No. I just used the joke. :P
L469[21:42:30] <dequbed> or fangirl, you gender has no relevance on that point
L470[21:42:52] <SickWhale> I don't get your attachment to Scala.
L471[21:43:01] <SickWhale> It
L472[21:43:12] <dequbed> I have zero attachment to Scala
L473[21:43:21] <SickWhale> So what's your point? :p
L474[21:43:46] <dequbed> That Scala isn't the problem.
L475[21:44:15] <SickWhale> Umm. It is a bit.
L476[21:44:49] <dequbed> Much more popular mods written in Java have died when their main Dev figured out that they really have better things to do than write complex code for a thankless toxic community for free
L477[21:45:05] <dequbed> Scala really isn't the issue :)
L478[21:45:09] <SickWhale> Like you ask your own community to translate the slab written in latin, how likely is it that people would actually answer your call?
L479[21:45:28] <dequbed> In this one? Enough, especially if I throw money at them
L480[21:45:28] <Michiyo> "thankless toxic community" this exactly...
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L482[21:46:13] <SickWhale> Wat.
L483[21:46:34] <SickWhale> I am really confused.
L484[21:47:29] <dequbed> OC1 didn't stop being maintained because its hard to get Scala devs. That didn't *help* but it wouldn't have changed where we are now.
L485[21:47:44] <Amanda> Modding is very few people's jobs, and most people seem to think they're entitled to updates
L486[21:48:34] <dequbed> To be fair to a degree it *did* help because contributions tended to be slightly higher quality because Scala filtered contributors pretty hard. But I won't say that's a purely good thing.
L487[21:48:51] <SickWhale> Well. I guess we have to agree to disagree. Seen plenty of projects to go down because someone choose some tech that nobody else knew.
L488[21:49:17] <B​ob> i dont see how is OC1 any problematic to contribute to
L489[21:49:17] <dequbed> And did they break because of that or because the main Dev left?
L490[21:49:20] <Forec​aster> that doesn't mean it applies to every other project
L491[21:49:32] <B​ob> i have a fork where i added my stuff ontop just fine and i never used scala in my life
L492[21:49:34] <B​ob> now i hate it
L493[21:49:44] <dequbed> Because 9 times out of 10 the actual problem is that the main dev left.
L494[21:50:11] <SickWhale> I never wanted to tackle that issue
L495[21:50:40] <SickWhale> It's free real estate.
L496[21:51:09] <Forec​aster> what issue
L497[21:52:02] <dequbed> Look, here's my two cents from personal experience. Learning enough Scala to be able to work on OC1 is an order of magnitude less work than understanding the existing OC1 codebase. If you want to port it good luck you *really* have to understand it.
L498[21:52:37] <B​ob> ^, adding new stuff to OC1 in Scala is piss easy
L499[21:52:46] <B​ob> altough i tried to do a major refractor and my ssd died
L500[21:53:10] <dequbed> The problem really isn't Scala here. Its a shit ecosystem on every fucking front. The people are a mixed bag if you're lucky and nothing is documented and will break in a month anyway.
L501[21:53:41] <B​ob> well the lack of docs is troublesome, but OC1's code is far from being confusing
L502[21:53:43] <SickWhale> Sounds exciting.
L503[21:53:45] <B​ob> unlike most MC mods
L504[21:53:50] <dequbed> And all the while 80% of the people you interact with feel *extremely* entitled to your free time.
L505[21:54:18] <SickWhale> This I know how to deal whith. :p
L506[21:54:31] <SickWhale> Much better than my grammar.
L507[21:55:00] <dequbed> Just filtering out all of the "hey can you be my personal developer for free and support this version here" is a full-time job in itself for any mod not completely obscure
L508[21:55:37] <SickWhale> So what you're telling me OC is basically left for anybody.
L509[21:56:05] <SickWhale> I mean in the sense of somebody taking care of it being up to date.
L510[21:56:06] <dequbed> Oh and you'll get your skill insulted a lot by people that have very little experience in your respective domain. Very welcoming, all of it.
L511[21:56:31] <SickWhale> I deal with that every day. And face to face. :D
L512[21:56:35] <dequbed> Yes, OC1 is basically unmaintained. It's also open source so knock yourself out and do whatever.
L513[21:57:21] <dequbed> SickWhale: and after that you want to also deal with it in your free time? Well have fun it's your mental health not mine :)
L514[21:57:26] <SickWhale> Dangit. So coming back to my origiginal question. OC1 without any dependencies is still good to play?
L515[21:58:01] <dequbed> See, I didn't want to be this blunt before but you seem like you can take it: That's the wrong goddamn question stop asking it.
L516[21:58:20] <SickWhale> I don't have much going on. I just take care of my cat, listen to music and play games with some people. I have plenty of time to maintain one project.
L517[21:58:56] <SickWhale> And this is right down my genre. I know its use of Lua which I delved before.
L518[21:59:08] <SickWhale> Sheit, meant "down my alley".
L519[21:59:14] <dequbed> Make *anything* boot *at all* in a new version before you even consider worrying about the nagging assholes that your users can be. When you are there and have done that, *then* worry about stuff like usability. OC1 has zero core functional dependencies.
L520[21:59:47] <SickWhale> Not sure what youre doing but youre only exciting me.
L521[22:00:05] <dequbed> I'm not trying to get you to stop
L522[22:00:09] <SickWhale> The power to say no to people. It's great.
L523[22:00:36] <dequbed> Never was. I just don't want to deal with yet another port burning out yet another Dev because they had no fucking clue what they got themselves into.
L524[22:00:51] <SickWhale> Hahaha. :D
L525[22:01:00] <SickWhale> I know you had a lot of those.
L526[22:01:42] <dequbed> If you want to port OC1, feel free. Go ahead. But do realize that you are giving yourself a herculean task and to us your confidence sounds very hollow.
L527[22:02:08] <SickWhale> I know. That's why I kinda joined to feel the crowd.
L528[22:02:26] <SickWhale> Because trying to port something that has essentially no going for would be pointless.
L529[22:03:00] <SickWhale> And I mean the port not OC itself.
L530[22:03:01] <dequbed> Oh a good number of people still prefer OC1. OC2 isn't a replacement. And it's not meant to be.
L531[22:03:05] <SickWhale> Language barrier. xd
L532[22:03:28] <SickWhale> Yeah. OC2 is totally different. Riscv emulation isnt what I would do.
L533[22:03:41] <SickWhale> Not my alley.
L534[22:03:49] <dequbed> You can also invest your time into making an emulation layer for OC2 so it feels like OC1. May be more worth your time, may be less. Your call
L535[22:04:13] <SickWhale> Heck. I hate to decide.
L536[22:04:33] <SickWhale> I am a great worker but a shitty lead.
L537[22:04:40] <dequbed> In the end, you need to do this for you and you alone. If you're doing this to please people you don't even know you'll just burn out in seconds.
L538[22:04:44] <Forec​aster> you should let MichiBot choose
L539[22:04:50] <Forec​aster> that can never go wrong
L540[22:04:52] <SickWhale> How do I do that?
L541[22:04:55] <dequbed> %choose OC1 or OC2
L542[22:04:55] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "OC1"
L543[22:05:23] <SickWhale> Heck.
L544[22:05:34] <SickWhale> The doom is upon us.
L545[22:05:39] <SickWhale> Or me.
L546[22:05:43] <dequbed> No, just you :)
L547[22:05:58] <dequbed> The rest of us aren't planning on porting OC1 to 1.16+
L548[22:06:01] <Forec​aster> there's been plenty of doom for the last couple of years now
L549[22:06:15] <SickWhale> Yeah, I have a tendency to feel as a part of the group. :d
L550[22:08:01] <Forec​aster> not sure what that has to do with anything but okay
L551[22:08:48] <SickWhale> Nothing I guess.
L552[22:09:11] <SickWhale> Sorry bout that.
L553[22:10:08] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L554[22:10:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Mic​hiyo's record of 6 hours, 24 minutes and 8 seconds this time. 53 minutes and 49 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 30 minutes and 19 seconds!
L555[22:10:12] <SickWhale> Been searching for a community to settle for a bit for a while. :p
L556[22:10:22] <Forec​aster> ah dangit, I missed one...
L557[22:10:28] <dequbed> Everybody has a need for respect and the feeling of belonging in a society or subgroup of one.
L558[22:10:48] <SickWhale> Not so much for the respect thingie.
L559[22:11:09] <SickWhale> That's useless.
L560[22:11:30] <dequbed> But please, for the love of whatever deity you feel closest to, don't try to gain our approval by trying to impress us by porting OC1. It won't work.
L561[22:11:37] <Forec​aster> not if you want to be taken seriously
L562[22:12:00] <SickWhale> Nah. I actually would like you to shit on me for even trying.
L563[22:12:44] <dequbed> No thank you. Not my kink.
L564[22:12:49] <SickWhale> My closest deity is my cat.
L565[22:13:02] <Forec​aster> I don't care what you do
L566[22:13:03] <SickWhale> And it makes me suffer every day.
L567[22:13:13] <dequbed> Then do give your deity some pets I guess
L568[22:13:23] <SickWhale> It's asleep. xd
L569[22:14:24] <SickWhale> Dangit it's very different from every other IRC I've joined. xd
L570[22:15:00] <dequbed> It's its very own space, for many reasons.
L571[22:15:20] <Forec​aster> Fun fact, this channel is only about OC when it's forced to be, which is not all that often
L572[22:15:26] <sapphicf​ettucine> tbh this is very close to most IRCs i've ever been in :p
L573[22:15:32] <dequbed> Pretty much, yes.
L574[22:15:39] <SickWhale> Not mine experience tho. :p
L575[22:16:06] <SickWhale> Might be that this is the first one that I felt I can contribute in other ways than just stirring chaos.
L576[22:16:24] <SickWhale> But I guess we shouldn't hang on this.
L577[22:16:46] <dequbed> Eh sapphic its different because it has a flair of Minecraft but accidentally attracted lots of diverse talent to the point that it can feel like highly specialized chats a lot of the time. Yet it also gets a lot of kids because its still about Minecraft.
L578[22:16:52] <sapphicf​ettucine> good times getting into fights in #archiveteam-ot about HTTP/2 scralers
L579[22:17:20] <sapphicf​ettucine> scrapers*
L580[22:17:23] <SickWhale> I always feel out of place on such occasions.
L581[22:17:41] <dequbed> Oh no SickWhale you can totally contribute in here too. In fact I do encourage it greatly!
L582[22:17:45] <sapphicf​ettucine> also, fair point dequbed
L583[22:18:29] <SickWhale> Welp. I kinda meant my age. This sounds like sarcasm though so I understand. ;p
L584[22:19:05] <dequbed> Your age? How old are you? I doubt you'll be younger than our youngest or older than our oldest.
L585[22:19:24] <SickWhale> 30.
L586[22:19:30] <dequbed> Not even close.
L587[22:19:46] <Michiyo> Get off my lawn.
L588[22:20:01] <SickWhale> Good then. I was shunned before because of that. :p
L589[22:20:08] <dequbed> Nobody cares
L590[22:20:22] * Michiyo yells at cloud
L591[22:20:25] <SickWhale> So can I be an ass regardless?
L592[22:20:35] <dequbed> Act decent and be excellent to other people and nobody gives two shits about your age
L593[22:20:38] <dequbed> No you can't
L594[22:20:42] <SickWhale> Heck.
L595[22:20:54] <dequbed> If you insist on being an ass I'll shove yours out of the door.
L596[22:21:20] <SickWhale> What about a bit of sarcasm and bad humour?
L597[22:21:28] <dequbed> Depends.
L598[22:21:34] <dequbed> Don't be insulting
L599[22:21:50] <SickWhale> GI Jane would be out of the question? :D
L600[22:21:50] <Forec​aster> Just follow the rules, they're in the topic
L601[22:21:53] <dequbed> And keep in mind text is a lossy compression for sarcasm.
L602[22:21:59] <sapphicf​ettucine> yikes
L603[22:22:13] <dequbed> And a lot of people in here aren't ... Yes. Yes that would be.
L604[22:22:13] <SickWhale> I've read the rules, they are very... vague.
L605[22:22:37] <dequbed> That would be *very* far against the "don't be insulting" part
L606[22:22:48] <SickWhale> Got it.
L607[22:22:55] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7ef88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L608[22:22:55] <sapphicf​ettucine> to borrow a rule from another server: this is not the place to learn how to act like an adult. don't be a jerk and you're golden
L609[22:23:04] <dequbed> If you can't make humor without shitting on people prefer to just stay silent please.
L610[22:24:10] <SickWhale> Ok. I guess. The "adult" thing is very vague IMO but I wont touch ya if I don't know you.
L611[22:24:10] <dequbed> And apply sarcasm carefully. Lots of people in here aren't exactly good at picking that part up, for reasons including language barriers. Its often better to just not.
L612[22:24:24] <SickWhale> Sarcasm is shit in the writing.
L613[22:24:44] <dequbed> Even if you know me. I don't care if you can insult a friend offline in here its no bueno.
L614[22:24:54] <SickWhale> I always try to point my own intention with the classic emote.
L615[22:24:55] <dequbed> Because *we* can't tell if its okay.
L616[22:26:17] <SickWhale> Yeah. I gathered you're not that active. At least in this timezone.
L617[22:26:42] <dequbed> We have people in just about every TZ
L618[22:26:52] <SickWhale> That's scary.
L619[22:26:58] <dequbed> No?
L620[22:27:15] <Forec​aster> See: diversity
L621[22:27:35] <SickWhale> Welp. Ok then.
L622[22:27:50] <SickWhale> You take less jokes than corporations.
L623[22:27:51] <dequbed> This chat has attracted as I said some very skilled people. In fact most of those left and still talking fall under that umbrella. And those people come in all shapes, colours, tongues and origins.
L624[22:28:37] <SickWhale> It never bothered me at all. I worked with all sorts of people and I actually like the input of all those cutlures and stands.
L625[22:28:59] <SickWhale> Even a simple thing can lead to a shitton of takes.
L626[22:29:11] <Forec​aster> saying "That's scary" doesn't exactly read like a joke
L627[22:29:18] <sapphicf​ettucine> i mean the issue is that you're being not good at jokes
L628[22:29:20] <B​ob> >dequbed: This chat has attracted as I said some very skilled people. In fact mo…
L629[22:29:21] <B​ob> damn, i must leave then 🙃
L630[22:29:24] <sapphicf​ettucine> like that's scary is not a good bit
L631[22:29:48] <sapphicf​ettucine> no one's offended about your timezone bit, it's just not really funny
L632[22:30:04] <SickWhale> Ok.
L633[22:30:12] <SickWhale> That's a first but ok. :D
L634[22:30:33] <dequbed> @Bob if you feel that way I won't stop you. But there is no implied dependency or requirement here. Being in this chat doesn't make you skilled and you don't have to be to be allowed in here
L635[22:31:17] <Forec​aster> If you don't possess at least two tongues you have to leave
L636[22:31:30] <sapphicf​ettucine> snakes only chatroom
L637[22:31:42] <SickWhale> So to understand my take I was working on-call support for a while. :p
L638[22:31:46] <dequbed> Cats are allowed on a technicality
L639[22:31:58] <dequbed> 9 lives ≈ 9 tongues
L640[22:32:33] <SickWhale> I never meant no disrespect. Just that people from US were the ones to wake me up when production died. xD
L641[22:32:39] <dequbed> Just not *at the same time* but that was never made a requirement
L642[22:32:52] <sapphicf​ettucine> >dequbed: 9 lives ≈ 9 tongues
L643[22:32:52] <sapphicf​ettucine> the amanda clause
L644[22:33:03] <Forec​aster> unless each life generates a new body it'd still be the same tongue though
L645[22:33:30] <dequbed> Also mine but yes. Excluding Amanda sounds like a very, *very* dangerous idea so that rule wasn't touched :p
L646[22:36:20] <SickWhale> Sorry if I approached you weirdly. I am used to very close work with teammates across the world and it usually worked. :p
L647[22:36:48] <Amanda> The hell did I miss
L648[22:36:49] <SickWhale> Im polish so I might've been a bit too direct. Sorry.
L649[22:37:01] <Amanda> Why would I have nine tounges?
L650[22:37:31] <dequbed> Amanda: don't worry about it, just useless legalese :P
L651[22:37:32] <sapphicf​ettucine> cat
L652[22:37:56] <sapphicf​ettucine> the airbud ruling of #oc
L653[22:39:47] <dequbed> SickWhale: *sigh* no, it's not about being approached weirdly. And sure close work with your teammates is fine and everything but we aren't your teammates. We haven't established any kind of relationship required for specific kinds of communication.
L654[22:40:12] <SickWhale> Yeah. Now I get it. :P
L655[22:40:13] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/yca76num
L656[22:40:27] <SickWhale> Usually being open worked for me.
L657[22:41:06] <SickWhale> I'll work to get you, or not. Will see.
L658[22:41:12] <SickWhale> We
L659[22:41:14] <SickWhale> We
L660[22:41:26] <SickWhale> Dangit, I don't get this weird keyboard.
L661[22:41:47] <dequbed> Please don't work to get me, I have had my fill of body snitchers already.
L662[22:41:59] <SickWhale> Switched workplace recently and they got me a laptop with GB layout.
L663[22:42:15] * Amanda remotes into dequbed's body to make her give her pets
L664[22:42:22] <SickWhale> The heck is a body snitcher?
L665[22:42:44] <dequbed> Amanda, I will put you in a cone of shame if you do that again <.<
L666[22:43:09] <SickWhale> Doxing thing?
L667[22:43:11] <dequbed> SickWhale: A human trafficer. I wasn't being serious
L668[22:43:31] <SickWhale> Ohh.
L669[22:44:11] <Forec​aster> Did you mean snatcher?
L670[22:44:16] <dequbed> … yes
L671[22:44:22] <dequbed> words!
L672[22:45:03] <SickWhale> I can't say shit, sorry to make you feel better, sorry.
L673[22:45:11] <dequbed> Lol don't worry about it
L674[22:45:13] <sapphicf​ettucine> swords!
L675[22:45:27] <SickWhale> I suck with words.
L676[22:45:33] <dequbed> @sapphicfettucine is that an offer? If so, scissors!
L677[22:45:46] <sapphicf​ettucine> scissors are just portable swords
L678[22:46:10] <Forec​aster> Pretty sure swords are portable
L679[22:46:20] <dequbed> I didn't mean those kind of scissors but yes you're right
L680[22:47:02] <SickWhale> Heck, it's hard to care.
L681[22:47:16] <Forec​aster> The pen is mightier than the sword, but is the pen mightier than scissors
L682[22:47:43] <SickWhale> There are pen nukes tho.
L683[22:47:55] <dequbed> @Forecaster Not if you leave out the space between "pen" and the "is". I can assure you of that.
L684[22:48:08] <sapphicf​ettucine> can't write with a pen if someone cut up all your writing paper with scissors
L685[22:48:16] <SickWhale> I dont like the generalizations tho.
L686[22:48:39] <sapphicf​ettucine> what
L687[22:49:04] <SickWhale> I mean it's a bit too late to talk about the dead.
L688[22:49:17] <SickWhale> Or did I miss something?
L689[22:49:27] <dequbed> Yes, I think you did
L690[22:49:29] <SickWhale> If so I am sorry.
L691[22:49:47] <dequbed> Mostly the part about where we're not talking about the dead yet :P
L692[22:49:53] <SickWhale> What.
L693[22:50:33] <Mic​hiyo> Someone convince me not to buy this 12 bay 11th generation Dell server.
L694[22:50:38] <Forec​aster> we don't talk about the undead scissor incident
L695[22:50:54] <Forec​aster> @Michiyo it costs money
L696[22:51:03] <SickWhale> Dont buy dead servers.
L697[22:51:16] <SickWhale> Unless they provide ya with raid storage.
L698[22:51:19] <Mic​hiyo> @Forecaster true... but it comes with 36TB of storage.
L699[22:51:21] <dequbed> @Michiyo I mean that one is great but you know what would be even better? A 24-bay 12th generation Dell server! So why don't you wait for a good offer on that?
L700[22:51:32] <Mic​hiyo> SickWhale, I have 3 other 11th gen dell servers in my garage.
L701[22:51:40] <Forec​aster> is the cost/GB worth it?
L702[22:51:44] <Forec​aster> if not don't do it
L703[22:51:48] <sapphicf​ettucine> who needs a raid server when you have a failing asus laptop with a usb hub and four usb drives
L704[22:52:00] <Mic​hiyo> You do.... now. lol
L705[22:52:01] <sapphicf​ettucine> (two days later: help me my data is dying)
L706[22:52:05] <dequbed> I hope you have backups @sapphicfettucine
L707[22:52:07] <SickWhale> Wat.
L708[22:52:26] <SickWhale> You surely are a weird bunch.
L709[22:52:31] <dequbed> Huh?
L710[22:52:32] <dequbed> What?
L711[22:52:36] <dequbed> No we're perfectly normal
L712[22:52:40] <Forec​aster> for talking about servers?
L713[22:52:43] <Mic​hiyo> 2x 12 core CPUs, 128GB of RAM, 36TB of drives.
L714[22:52:44] <dequbed> Ignore that cat running around on the ceiling
L715[22:52:47] <Mic​hiyo> for $899
L716[22:53:03] <sapphicf​ettucine> normalcy? sounds boring
L717[22:53:07] <dequbed> @Michiyo okay so, do you really, really wanna?
L718[22:53:09] <SickWhale> Cost doesn't impress me at all. :p
L719[22:53:17] <dequbed> Like *really* wanna?
L720[22:53:21] <SickWhale> All I care is what you can achieve wit that. :D
L721[22:53:31] <dequbed> If not, then it's probably not worth the moneys
L722[22:53:50] <Mic​hiyo> I HAVE this exact server, in the 8 bay version...
L723[22:54:09] <SickWhale> If making backs is everything then you... well... not sure how to talk to you.
L724[22:54:17] <Mic​hiyo> Though, with only 32GB of RAM
L725[22:54:24] <dequbed> SickWhale: Ah see remember the part about "has attracted highly skilled people". Don't make the mistake to tell people like Michiyo what to do with her hardware. She's doing bigger things for longer than a lot in here.
L726[22:54:37] <Forec​aster> "making backs"? what do you mean by that
L727[22:55:01] <SickWhale> Bigger things in 2022 does not mean shit.
L728[22:55:22] <SickWhale> Could mean a electron app eating 8 gigs.
L729[22:55:34] <dequbed> SickWhale: In general one very good word of advice if you want to stay on this channels sunny side: Assume that everybody knows what they're talking about until proven otherwise. You'll be right more often than the other way around
L730[22:55:45] <Forec​aster> this channel has been around for a lot longer than that
L731[22:57:21] <SickWhale> I get that very clearly.
L732[22:57:27] <dequbed> @Michiyo unrelated but what kind of drives are those 36TB? Low-hour 10k SAS alone would be worth 900USD even without the server around it
L733[22:57:30] <SickWhale> I just use myself.
L734[22:57:59] <SickWhale> If you reject pure myself then I guess, shit. I will do what I want nevertheless. xd
L735[22:58:23] <Mic​hiyo> Likely $50 a pop HGST SAS drives if the other server I got is any indication.
L736[22:58:33] <dequbed> ugh <.<
L737[22:58:36] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DGH9X2K/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=A25334WSUC850F&psc=1
L738[22:59:12] <dequbed> Why does it say SAS in the title and SATA in the description? <.<
L739[22:59:22] <Mic​hiyo> No idea, but they ARE SAS
L740[22:59:23] <SickWhale> But honestly it really seems we live in very different worlds.
L741[22:59:33] <SickWhale> This drive is shitty.
L742[22:59:59] <Mic​hiyo> $520-600 in drives, if this is what they're shipping in the one I'm looking at.
L743[23:00:51] <SickWhale> No local stores?
L744[23:01:08] <Mic​hiyo> Selling old servers? No.
L745[23:01:15] <dequbed> @Michiyo hmmmmm honestly for that money I'm not sure if that is a good offer. Unless you're talking new new drives and even then. Isn't 11th gen *just about* DDR3?
L746[23:01:28] <Mic​hiyo> 11th gen is DDR3, yes
L747[23:01:41] <SickWhale> It's borderline imo.
L748[23:01:42] <dequbed> Yeah but I mean wasn't it one of the first ones that is.
L749[23:02:00] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, shrug, they're from 2011
L750[23:02:42] <dequbed> Yeah and I personally wouldn't pay that much money for that old hardware. But if you want to complete the set go for it, I'm sure you'll make it worth its money to you :)
L751[23:03:09] <Forec​aster> If you complete the set you can combine them into the next generation up right
L752[23:03:35] <Mic​hiyo> I wish :P
L753[23:03:39] <dequbed> I mean if you do enough virtualization and sharding that's basically what IBM has been doing with their shitty mainframes :P
L754[23:03:44] <Mic​hiyo> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571908438666379266/859290862860369930/20210628_213452.jpg?width=1205&height=904
L755[23:03:50] <Mic​hiyo> That's my current 3
L756[23:04:22] <dequbed> fancy rack
L757[23:04:24] <Forec​aster> you mean real life doesn't work like a merge game? I feel cheated
L758[23:04:38] <Mic​hiyo> I thought so too lol
L759[23:05:22] <Mic​hiyo> The 510 up top there currently has ~20TB, and a 10GB link to the R815 in the middle that does the heavy lifting
L760[23:07:03] <Mic​hiyo> IF I was to pick up the one I'm looking at, plan is to move the main shares to it, then use the existing 510 as an onsite backup, because RAID isn't a backup.
L761[23:07:21] <Forec​aster> raid is a backdown
L762[23:07:22] <Mic​hiyo> Mirror everything except my Plex library to it.
L763[23:08:04] <dequbed> whaaaaaat? RAID isn't a backup? But RAID means you never ever lose data! How is that not a backup?! D:
L764[23:08:23] <Mic​hiyo> lmao
L765[23:09:16] <Forec​aster> psh, who needs backups, if you forget you had the data have you truly lost it?
L766[23:10:54] <SickWhale> Heck. You make me feel this weird way.
L767[23:11:38] <SickWhale> It's like it's conversation but without anything about it.
L768[23:11:56] <Forec​aster> that sounds like a you problem
L769[23:12:07] <SickWhale> Indeed.
L770[23:12:24] <SickWhale> But I don't take it the wrong way.
L771[23:12:50] <Forec​aster> you know you don't have to be involved in every conversation right
L772[23:12:55] <Forec​aster> or follow them
L773[23:14:12] <Mic​hiyo> To answer your question dequbed, yes 11th gen was the first DDR3 gen, 12th was the last. 13th went to DDR4.
L774[23:14:29] <dequbed> Ah okay so I was about right
L775[23:20:17] <SickWhale> Sounds important.
L776[23:22:12] <Mic​hiyo> shrug
L777[23:22:55] <SickWhale> Oh well. :p
L778[23:23:54] <Mic​hiyo> It's that, or I get something like an MD1200, and source 2.5" SAS drives
L779[23:25:21] <SickWhale> Can I get some smoked salmon in the meantime?
L780[23:25:47] <Forec​aster> In the meantime before what
L781[23:26:12] <SickWhale> Can't reveal that to you. :D Seems like secrets are a big thing to you.
L782[23:27:29] <Forec​aster> How do you figure
L783[23:27:54] <dequbed> why do i still invest time and energy in people. fucking hell. <.< aight, I'm out good night y'all.
L784[23:28:03] <SickWhale> Good night.
L785[23:29:38] <SickWhale> Dang you people. I can't match your patterns. xd
L786[23:31:22] <Forec​aster> Maybe you're not reading them right, because I have no idea why you'd think "secrets are a big deal to me"
L787[23:32:13] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-6-121.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L788[23:33:24] <Mic​hiyo> 2.5" SAS drives 3+TB are very hard to find.. lol
L789[23:33:54] <SickWhale> I think you might be right. No jokes I could find apply.
L790[23:34:12] <SickWhale> Where are you from "vaguely"?
L791[23:34:48] <Mic​hiyo> Virgo Supercluster
L792[23:35:03] <Forec​aster> I don't see why that's relevant
L793[23:35:29] <SickWhale> It kinda is. Cultures clash all the time.
L794[23:37:30] <Forec​aster> It seems like you consider a joke to be just stating a thing, like "scary" or "secrets are a big deal to you" that don't really seem to relate to anything
L795[23:37:54] <SickWhale> Welp. Isn't that what a joke supposed to be?
L796[23:38:47] <SickWhale> It would be really shitty if a joke would be directly digging in oneself life.
L797[23:39:34] <SickWhale> I deal with cards I was dealt with.
L798[23:39:53] <SickWhale> Not sure which do you plan to play with.
L799[23:41:51] <Forec​aster> Well I think you like pickles
L800[23:42:03] <SickWhale> With that you would be correct.
L801[23:42:11] <SickWhale> I'm polish. I love pickles.
L802[23:42:25] <jackie> @Michiyo yeah everything above 2TB 2.5" HDD is sadly pretty expensive and rare (SAS that is). It usually is cheaper to get a 3.5" SAS Storage Case and HDDs instead if space is not a problem ^^'
L803[23:43:58] <Forec​aster> But it wasn't funny was it
L804[23:45:16] <SickWhale> Hmm. At the time I consider it would. But apart of that, are there even servers offering 2.5 hdd space? :p
L805[23:45:52] <SickWhale> And I guess it was kinda funny in a weird way.
L806[23:46:25] <M​GR> >SickWhale: Hmm. At the time I consider it would. But apart of that, are there eve…
L807[23:46:25] <M​GR> Yes
L808[23:46:27] <SickWhale> What does it change besides your disposition against myself.
L809[23:46:33] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-PowerVault-MD1220-Redundant-Refurbished/dp/B07MW8SMVB
L810[23:46:33] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.amazon.com/High-End-PowerEdge-R710-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07G9MBMKN/ref=psdc_11036071_t4_B081PC66JC
L811[23:46:34] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.amazon.com/PowerEdge-R610-2-67Ghz-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00HDAGDLK/ref=psdc_11036071_t3_B081PC66JC
L812[23:46:48] <Mic​hiyo> The R815 and the R710 I have in my rack are both 2.5"
L813[23:46:58] <SickWhale> Heck.
L814[23:46:58] <Mic​hiyo> All of those linked are 2.5"
L815[23:47:39] <Mic​hiyo> the entire reason I picked up the R510 in my rack was because it was 3.5"
L816[23:47:41] <SickWhale> No provider around wants those around. Maybe I should push a bit. xD
L817[23:48:00] <Mic​hiyo> LOTS of server are 2.5" only
L818[23:48:04] <Mic​hiyo> even new stuff.
L819[23:48:07] <SickWhale> Wat./
L820[23:48:28] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl61lHwo3YE EVERY ONE of these servers is 2.5"
L821[23:48:32] <Mic​hiyo> NVME
L822[23:49:11] <SickWhale> Heck.
L823[23:49:14] <Mic​hiyo> https://business.kioxia.com/en-us/ssd/data-center-ssd/cd6-r.html These are 2.5" NVME drives.
L824[23:50:03] <SickWhale> Yo, but what's the heckin price?
L825[23:50:17] <Mic​hiyo> if you have to ask, you can't afford it :P
L826[23:50:34] <SickWhale> They throw charts at ya but I can't really figure that out.
L827[23:50:39] <SickWhale> Oh come on. Stop with that.
L828[23:50:43] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.wiredzone.com/shop/product/10021305-kioxia-kcd6xlul7t68-hard-drive-cd6-7-68tb-nvme-pcie-4x4-2-5in-u-3-8129
L829[23:50:46] <M​GR> I work on servers and SANs with 2.5" drives
L830[23:51:14] <SickWhale> Dangit it's confusing as sheit.
L831[23:51:19] <jackie> I might be getting a good hand full of the sas variant of these drives (sas because dl360p g8. sadly we couldn't find a company willing to give a student team a few new servers so we have to live with the 24 of said proliants :P we may be gettign gen9 ones next year :>)
L832[23:51:22] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.8anet.com/Product/17845/Kioxia-KCD6XLUL3T84---3-84TB-SSD-NVMe-2-5-inch-15mm-CD6-R-Series-SIE-PCIe-4-0-6200-MB-sec-Read-BiCS-FLASH-TLC-1-DWPD
L833[23:52:22] <SickWhale> I had my hecking server like 3 years with soyoustart.
L834[23:52:37] <SickWhale> It was meant as a landing page for sick people.
L835[23:52:47] <SickWhale> And for minecraft lovers too.
L836[23:52:59] <SickWhale> The feck you are all on about here?
L837[23:53:21] <SickWhale> It feels sketchy as heck.
L838[23:53:32] <SickWhale> No pages loading, no info.
L839[23:53:44] <SickWhale> Shill craft?
L840[23:53:49] <Mic​hiyo> ...
L841[23:53:52] <M​GR> You joined this channel for some reaons
L842[23:53:54] <M​GR> reason*
L843[23:53:55] <Mic​hiyo> wtf are YOU on about.
L844[23:53:56] <M​GR> What was the reason?
L845[23:54:10] <SickWhale> I did. I want to port oc to 1.18.
L846[23:54:11] <jackie> SickWhale: what are you even trying to say with your last few messges? o.O
L847[23:54:26] <SickWhale> It's not that hard to compute m8.
L848[23:54:31] <M​GR> Ok, then you joined the Discord/IRC for Opencomputers
L849[23:54:36] <SickWhale> IRC.
L850[23:54:44] <M​GR> I said what I said
L851[23:54:48] <SickWhale> Yes.
L852[23:55:09] <Amanda> dequbed: you can't just go calling a lady's rack fancy!
L853[23:55:21] <SickWhale> Sorry but you didn't say anything.
L854[23:55:37] <Mic​hiyo> Amanda, it's ok, I think my rack is pretty fancy. :P
L855[23:55:43] <Amanda> :P
L856[23:55:44] <M​GR> >MGR: Ok, then you joined the Discord/IRC for Opencomputers
L857[23:55:44] <M​GR> Pretty sure that I did say something
L858[23:55:48] <dequbed> Amanda: I die and I will do so again. I like what i like don't you go kinkshaming me :<
L859[23:55:57] <dequbed> s/die/did
L860[23:55:57] <MichiBot> <dequbed> Amanda: I did and I will do so again. I like what i like don't you go kinkshaming me :<
L861[23:56:14] <Mic​hiyo> I've found a 12 bay MD1200, comes with drives i don't want though lmao
L862[23:56:17] <SickWhale> Yes, you did. But you didn't make sure I was part of that.
L863[23:56:41] * dequbed scrolls up
L864[23:56:44] <M​GR> I feel like you didn't carefully read what I said. I included you in the message
L865[23:56:54] <dequbed> Oh boy it got *worse*. I'm almost surprised
L866[23:56:55] <SickWhale> I have no idea who you are and you know nothing about who I am. It's awkward. :p
L867[23:56:59] <Mic​hiyo> the 12 bay MD1200's are 3.5" though, so that's nice.
L868[23:57:32] <Mic​hiyo> I need a SAS controller with external ports though
L869[23:58:07] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Non-RAID-Serial-Attached-External/dp/B0153IR6QY That'll do...
L870[23:58:17] <dequbed> @Michiyo but it doesn't come with 5.25"! How can anybody even use a computer without fullsize ports?
L871[23:58:26] <Mic​hiyo> lmao
L872[23:59:44] <jackie> @Michiyo I like the HP MSA60 and D2600 disk shelfes. Mainly because they are cheap and work well :P (I got 2 of them for free and the third one for 60€. They do pop up on ebay for cheap from time to time)
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