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L4[00:27:22] <lunar_sam> Izaya: [CRUNK SKRUNK RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR]
L5[00:31:06] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or irradiate
L6[00:31:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: My grandfather always told me that "irradiate" is the way to go!
L7[02:07:29] <Ar​iri> kansei dorifto!
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L11[02:30:36] <Michiyo> %tonk
L12[02:30:36] <MichiBot> Wah! Mic​hiyo! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 9 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[02:30:37] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 4 hours, 9 minutes and 38 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00416 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.04294568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L15[02:44:38] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/MkVvWv5XAbgpNqR1HcCYQlftYMErhVudkCg8MWRp/bottles.mp4
L16[02:44:38] <lunar_sam> my last braincell rn
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L18[03:14:57] * Amanda meows at elfi, trying to teach her a new dialect of cat via exposure learning, slowly drifting off all the while making the pronunciation off
L19[03:15:10] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L22[06:15:35] <Forec​aster> %sip
L23[06:15:36] <MichiBot> You drink a shining weather potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Comic Sans until they find a lamp.
L24[07:09:20] <Va​ur> %tonk
L25[07:09:21] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 4 hours, 9 minutes and 38 seconds (By 29 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L26[07:09:22] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 38 minutes and 43 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0024 (0.00048 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L29[09:01:51] <Forec​aster> %sip
L30[09:01:52] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly bombastium potion (New!). Forecaster looks confused as nothing happens.
L31[09:02:02] <Forec​aster> >:
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L37[12:54:16] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L38[12:54:17] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 38 minutes and 43 seconds (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L39[12:54:18] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.32458568. Position #2 Need 0.05484864 more points to pass Va​ur!
L40[13:15:30] <Ton​atsi> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer
L41[13:15:30] <Ton​atsi> Can someone explain what the buffer API does in functional terms?
L42[13:15:31] <Ton​atsi> I know it provides a middle man but I don't understand what it does
L43[13:16:26] <Forec​aster> it does the same thing as the filesystem but provides useful methods for interacting with it
L44[13:17:19] <Ton​atsi> I don't understand what the useful things are
L45[13:17:30] <Ton​atsi> I don't understand what the useful methods are [Edited]
L46[13:18:06] <Ton​atsi> More accurately, I don't understand how the provided methods make it more useful
L47[13:19:32] <Ton​atsi> And that's just the main use for it; it also allows creating buffered streams, and I want to know what buffered streams provide as opposed to not using the buffer API
L48[13:21:18] <Ton​atsi> Wait, I think I understand
L49[13:21:41] <Ton​atsi> When set, it holds input until it reaches the set buffer size
L50[13:22:05] <Ton​atsi> And then executes the provided function instead of executing it for every input up till then
L51[13:23:06] <Forec​aster> oh great, my server is down... which means either power or internet went out in my apartment...
L52[13:23:18] <Forec​aster> neither of which is exciting
L53[13:23:45] <Ton​atsi> Unfortunate
L54[14:00:09] <Ocawes​ome101> @Tonatsi it makes file access faster by reading in fixed-size chunks rather than directly using the raw filesystem components
L55[14:00:22] <Ocawes​ome101> because reading from them is slow
L56[14:00:32] <Ocawes​ome101> this is particularly noticeable e.g. reading one byte at a time
L57[14:04:23] <Ton​atsi> Yes
L58[14:05:51] <Ton​atsi> I was asking specifically for the knowledge of why, which I now know is that it holds the information until it reaches the buffer limit. This was so that I could know how to use buffers for other things
L59[14:06:38] <Ton​atsi> Random question, is there a filesystem overhead for accessing tmp files or not?
L60[14:06:51] <Ton​atsi> On a similar vein, do Drones get a tmp filesystem?
L61[14:07:25] <Ton​atsi> Since I was told that tmp is java magic, it can't be an OpenOS thing, so it might be present on drones even if unmounted
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L63[14:11:49] <Ocawes​ome101> yes tmpfs is present on drones
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L65[14:13:38] <Ton​atsi> So I could theoretically write an eeprom that saves a larger file to tmp and then executes it
L66[14:13:56] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L67[14:14:07] <Ton​atsi> I know what my next project is
L68[14:14:14] <Ocawes​ome101> mind that unless you change the size in the config it's only 64k
L69[14:14:22] <Ton​atsi> That's still a factor of 16
L70[14:14:25] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L71[14:14:33] <Ocawes​ome101> psychos fits in there iirc
L72[14:14:56] <Ton​atsi> There's always the option to minify the program too
L73[14:15:05] <Ocawes​ome101> indeed
L74[14:15:50] <Ton​atsi> I doubt it would even be that hard to do
L75[14:16:19] <Ton​atsi> Yeah it should be easy
L76[14:28:20] <Forec​aster> I think Izaya made something that runs code on drones over network
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L80[15:47:44] <Brisingr​Aerowing> There's a number of remote control drone scripts of various methods.
L81[15:57:30] <Forec​aster> Great, I'm offline until Friday
L82[15:58:00] <Forec​aster> This is going to make coding a SE drone HUD fun
L83[15:58:28] <Ocawes​ome101> how are you sending messages on discord, then?
L84[15:58:43] <Forec​aster> ...on my phone
L85[16:02:12] <Michiyo> %tonk
L86[16:02:12] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Mic​hiyo! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 7 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L87[16:02:13] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 3 hours, 7 minutes and 55 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00313 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.05081568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L88[16:07:03] * Amanda boops Michiyo
L89[16:08:03] <Michiyo> o/
L90[16:08:12] <Amanda> How're you doing?
L91[16:08:28] <Michiyo> Exhausted
L92[16:08:29] <Michiyo> you?
L93[16:12:51] <Amanda> About the same, been having trouble sleeping and getting to sleep
L94[16:13:18] <Amanda> The birbs outside my window are being noisy
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L96[16:24:57] <Forec​aster> And now I got called back into work
L97[16:25:07] <Forec​aster> Today's an excellent day
L98[16:25:39] <Amanda> This is why you don't answer phone calls from your boss outside work hours!
L99[16:36:03] <Michiyo> s/ from your boss outside work hours//
L100[16:36:03] <MichiBot> <Amanda> This is why you don't answer phone calls!
L101[16:36:09] <Michiyo> fix't
L102[16:36:30] <Amanda> :P
L103[17:42:02] <Amanda> %choose wait for hydra to finish or update wednesday, wooo
L104[17:42:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "wait for hydra to finish"!
L105[17:42:12] <Amanda> %remindme 2h check on hydra
L106[17:42:12] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check on hydra" in 2h at 02/09/2022 07:42:12 PM
L107[18:03:34] <Basga​mer999> is OC2 going to have same things like drones and robots that oc1 has?
L108[18:05:02] <Amanda> OC2 already has robots, no drones (yet?)
L109[18:05:24] <Basga​mer999> it dont have drones thats why i asked wasnt sure about the robots
L110[18:09:54] <Basga​mer999> also quick question is there a way to store the messages i send to the drone in a variable that i can use
L111[18:10:35] <Amanda> yes, the same way you'd store anything else in an variable.
L112[18:11:07] <Amanda> Might I recommend the link Michibot is about give: %pil
L113[18:11:07] <MichiBot> https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
L114[18:12:16] <Basga​mer999> i used this local thing, port, id, message, message = computer.pullsignal("modem_message") but it crashed when it got something and tries to change the color it says expect number got string
L115[18:12:42] <Ocawes​ome101> is this in OpenOS?
L116[18:13:01] <Basga​mer999> it runs bios because drone dont run openOS
L117[18:13:05] <Ocawes​ome101> then `computer.pullSignal` only does timeouts
L118[18:13:17] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS wraps `computer.pullSignal` to be more or less identical to `event.pull`
L119[18:13:34] <Amanda> you're defining "message" twice
L120[18:13:59] <Basga​mer999> >Ocawesome101: OpenOS wraps `computer.pullSignal` to be more or less identical to `event.pull…
L121[18:14:00] <Basga​mer999> so how can i make that it stores the information in the variables?
L122[18:14:03] <Ocawes​ome101> that will break things also.
L123[18:14:10] <Ocawes​ome101> @Basgamer999 just give it no argument
L124[18:14:20] <Ocawes​ome101> `thing` is the name of the signal it got
L125[18:14:26] <Amanda> and what @Ocawesome101 said, you need to check for "thing == "modem_message"" else bail, no event filtering in raw os.pullEvent
L126[18:14:43] <Ocawes​ome101> * not os.pullEven
L127[18:14:45] <Ocawes​ome101> * not os.pullEvent [Edited]
L128[18:14:46] <Basga​mer999> so like this? https://tinyurl.com/y8zyp46o
L129[18:15:10] <Ocawes​ome101> well yes but you still need the `local thing, port, id, ...`
L130[18:15:23] <Ocawes​ome101> also OC's `modem_message` signal has a couple other fields
L131[18:16:42] <Ocawes​ome101> so you specifically need `local signal, localAddress, remoteAddress, port, distance, ma1, ma2, ma3, ma4, ma5, ma6, ma7, ma8 = computer.pullSignal()`, variable names being optional and `ma1..8` also being optional depending how many arguments your sender is sending
L132[18:17:49] <Basga​mer999> a drone can do max 2 things right speed direction right?
L133[18:24:47] <Ocawes​ome101> i have no idea
L134[18:26:51] <Basga​mer999> what i am doing wrong i send ("light","200","0","0") to the port and it crash https://tinyurl.com/y9yabkr8&lt;Basga​mer999> what i am doing wrong i send ("light","200","0","0") to the port and it crash https://tinyurl.com/y8xxjzqf
L135[18:27:15] <Basga​mer999> nvm i need to send it as 200 not "200"
L136[18:28:29] <Basga​mer999> its now if i send 0,0,200 it change to black
L137[18:28:45] <Basga​mer999> what can be the issue of that
L138[18:31:26] <Basga​mer999> only the first value change it to blue other than that it dont change it
L139[18:44:39] <Forec​aster> It's that kind of job though, our clients need their machines to run
L140[18:45:38] <Forec​aster> And getting someone on short notice who can fix one of these is a valuable service https://tinyurl.com/y8op95lq
L141[18:54:54] <Basga​mer999> have fun
L142[19:24:06] <lunar_sam> "this feature is only available on our mobile site"
L143[19:24:10] <lunar_sam> WHY
L144[19:24:24] <Amanda> because Fuck You™
L145[19:24:30] <lunar_sam> man
L146[19:24:39] <lunar_sam> i hate webdevs
L147[19:24:43] <lunar_sam> including myself
L148[19:24:50] <Ton​atsi> TIP: f12 and click the mobile device button
L149[19:24:52] <Ton​atsi> if on chrome
L150[19:24:57] <Ton​atsi> if on chromium [Edited]
L151[19:25:30] <lunar_sam> oh shit
L152[19:25:32] <lunar_sam> that's genius
L153[19:25:36] <lunar_sam> i forgot about that
L154[19:25:53] <Amanda> Does that change the UA?
L155[19:26:01] <lunar_sam> i'm on edge, but it's still chrome lmfao
L156[19:26:02] <Ton​atsi> fairly certain it does
L157[19:26:03] <lunar_sam> it works now
L158[19:26:04] <lunar_sam> so
L159[19:26:18] <lunar_sam> NO
L160[19:26:19] <lunar_sam> IT'S JUST
L161[19:26:22] <lunar_sam> THE SIZE
L162[19:26:24] <lunar_sam> OH MY GOD
L163[19:26:34] <Ton​atsi> ahahah
L164[19:26:39] <Ton​atsi> stupid
L165[19:27:13] <lunar_sam> god i hate websites
L166[19:27:32] <Ocawes​ome101> wow
L167[19:27:43] <Ocawes​ome101> i sure do love arbitrary limitations
L168[19:28:19] <lunar_sam> ma
L169[19:28:24] <lunar_sam> *man
L170[19:28:28] <lunar_sam> the "barcode scanner" doesn't work either
L171[19:28:35] <lunar_sam> (i have to upload a picture of my ID)
L172[19:28:38] <lunar_sam> so
L173[19:28:43] <lunar_sam> lmao
L174[19:29:46] <lunar_sam> funny 2D barcode wouldn't scan
L175[19:42:05] <B​ob> where would i find OC2's defualt Linux disk Lua files
L176[19:42:13] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check on hydra
L177[19:42:14] <B​ob> want to use them to implement HLAPI on my end
L178[19:43:09] <Amanda> https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/blob/1.18-forge/src/main/scripts/lib/lua/devices.lua
L179[19:44:40] <B​ob> 🙏
L180[19:44:54] <Amanda> or here it is in Python: https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/blob/1.18-forge/src/main/scripts/lib/micropython/devices.py
L181[19:45:04] <B​ob> 🤢
L182[19:45:09] <lunar_sam> sam angrily yells at everything
L183[19:45:31] <B​ob> i just need to figure out what are those syscalls
L184[19:45:37] <B​ob> and if i should use syscalls in Rust or use the std stuff
L185[19:45:53] <B​ob> i can't get shit to compile under nostd but i can make the library itself be nostd
L186[19:46:10] <Amanda> I mean
L187[19:46:11] <Amanda> https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/blob/1.18-forge/src/main/scripts/lib/micropython/devices.py#L61
L188[19:46:20] <Amanda> gives you a clue how to do it without the syscalls
L189[19:46:34] <Amanda> but sure, just vomit at the mere sight of a language you don't know
L190[19:46:47] <Amanda> gorram kida
L191[19:46:50] <Amanda> kids*
L192[19:51:06] <B​ob> i did see that it was writting to some region
L193[19:51:16] <B​ob> i guess its managed by the OS, probably some device in `/dev`
L194[19:51:30] <B​ob> i already got my bufreader ready
L195[19:51:39] <B​ob> all i need to look into is procedural json parsing
L196[20:06:11] <Amanda> ... why is my laptop compiling qtbase
L197[20:07:43] <B​ob> thats concerning
L198[20:08:06] <Amanda> Well, I say "my laptop" -- what I mean is the buildfarm I'm paying for, on behalf of my laptop
L199[20:09:24] <Amanda> oh. polymc
L200[20:09:41] <Amanda> I guess it got updated in master, and hasn't made it to the cache
L201[20:30:00] <Z0id​berg> omg wtf
L202[20:30:01] <Z0id​berg> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244230771232079873/941067848057520231/RDT_20220209_1247077998816229157296821.jpg
L203[20:30:46] <Amanda> "911 what's your emergency" "I neeed help with my science homework"
L204[20:31:54] <Amanda> Anyway what'd you expect? It's bing.
L205[20:32:10] <Amanda> Clearly they expected you to kill yourself by doubling the absolute temperature of gas
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L208[20:56:57] <ThePi​Guy24> bing knows the pain of homework
L209[21:00:12] <Va​ur> %tonk
L210[21:00:14] <MichiBot> Eh! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 3 hours, 7 minutes and 55 seconds (By 1 hour, 50 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L211[21:00:15] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours and 58 minutes! Vaur also gained 0.00732 (0.00183 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L212[21:03:28] <ink​oate> @Bob The HLAPI thing works by reading/writing to a serial port tty using JSON
L213[21:04:20] <ink​oate> That's the `/dev/hvc0` device that the scripts are working with
L214[21:05:02] <B​ob> yeah, so i think i can open them as files and stuff
L215[21:05:50] <ink​oate> I'm not sure whether or not that's true. Right now I'm trying to use this https://docs.rs/serialport/4.0.1/serialport/
L216[21:06:06] <ink​oate> But I haven't had a chance to try that out yet.
L217[21:06:31] <B​ob> well i barely know `/dev` stuff anyways
L218[21:06:38] <B​ob> all off assumptions
L219[21:11:39] <Amanda> It's a virtual serial port, so yeah you can just read/write like a unix socket
L220[21:12:07] <Amanda> no baud rate because there's nothing to hardware clock, it's meant to provide anagement services to embedded VM guests
L221[21:21:32] <B​ob> well, it do see that there's some polling done
L222[21:21:56] <B​ob> it does seem to be a file i guess, i dont really know much of the policies on waiting
L223[21:31:04] <Forec​aster> Hooray, back home
L224[21:31:18] <Forec​aster> It's now 10:30 PM
L225[21:31:36] <Forec​aster> I've eaten half a pastry today
L226[21:31:55] <Forec​aster> This work call interrupted me cooking dinner...
L227[21:38:40] <Amanda> WEll, I have audio again, thanks to playing with pipewire, except now my temrinal hands whenever BEL is sent, and I can't control the volume because pipewire-pulse doesn't want to work
L228[22:24:40] <Izaya> classic
L229[22:26:51] <Amanda> Guess I'll just accept I don't get to have audio for now
L230[22:34:21] <Izaya> should've stuck with what works
L231[22:34:24] <Izaya> (ALSA)
L232[22:34:59] <Amanda> Izaya: alsa's broken atm
L233[22:35:08] <Amanda> At least, ALSA through Pulse is
L234[22:35:32] <Amanda> someone was helpful and updated it's package! And removed a patch that nixpkgs applies, making the config generated by nixos invalid
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