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L1[00:00:04] <Izaya> figure out which car I could buy with the money instead
L2[00:06:47] <Kilobyte> anyways, bed time
L3[00:06:50] <Izaya> o7
L4[00:06:53] <Kilobyte> good night
L5[00:46:23] <Amanda> %choose rain box or halucinate?
L6[00:46:23] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "rain box". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L7[00:46:38] <Amanda> Stop eating pudding in the bathtub then, MichiBot
L8[00:47:06] <Z0id​berg> Oh no it's arch
L9[00:48:38] <Izaya> > he doesn't appreciate stable up-to-date binary distros
L10[00:51:09] <Amanda> What distro? Arch is only two of those
L11[00:52:09] <Amanda> I had more problems with arch than I've ever had before or since on any hardware
L12[00:52:47] <Izaya> had less issues with arch than any other distro
L13[00:52:55] <Izaya> \o/
L14[00:54:09] <Amanda> Maybe arch is past it's awkward teenage years or something, but it broke just about every update I did, and when I'd talk about it in it's irc channel the response was invariably "didn't you read (link to one of the maintainers blog posts, posted 2 days ago)"
L15[00:55:01] <Amanda> Never the same maintainer twice
L16[00:55:22] <Izaya> I update weekly or so, very rarely actually have to do anything, and if it is, breaking changes are on the blog
L17[00:55:38] <Amanda> And the post would only have preventive measures, never remediation
L18[00:55:40] <Izaya> https://www.archlinux.org/feeds/news/
L19[00:55:53] <Amanda> See, that wasn't s thing when I used it
L20[00:56:07] <Amanda> It was a blog per maintainer on their personal domains
L21[00:59:21] <Amanda> It was in the middle of the systemd migration too
L22[00:59:38] <Amanda> I've never given arch a second shot, much like Samsung ssd's
L23[01:00:46] <Amanda> I'm a cat, we're sadists not maschoists.
L24[01:01:03] <Izaya> :p
L25[01:03:19] <Ocawes​ome101> i can vouch for arch also
L26[01:03:26] <Ocawes​ome101> have had no issues in 2 years
L27[01:04:10] <Amanda> I'm quite happy with nixos, it's effectively made me an honest woman, stopped distro-hopping every quarter year
L28[01:05:09] <Ocawes​ome101> is nixos one of those distros where you have to compile everything, or do you only have to compile some things?
L29[01:05:29] <Amanda> There's great power in the fact I can fuck with de's wm's, compositers etc easily and atomically and just as easily roll back
L30[01:05:50] <Izaya> speaking of other distros being a pain
L31[01:06:09] <Amanda> Depends on what channel you use. Unstable has all the latest compiled packages, master is a queue, then there's the biannual releases
L32[01:06:09] <Izaya> I installed memtest86+ on a mint machine but it isn't showing up in the boot menu
L33[01:06:11] <Izaya> c-cool
L34[01:07:20] <Amanda> Personally I run a hydra CI instance which builds all the changes, including anything that needs compiling, then pushes them to a minion instance I'm using as a binary cache
L35[01:07:34] <Amanda> Minio*
L36[01:07:54] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L37[01:07:59] <Izaya> Amanda: actually, I do get occasional weird breakage from chaotic-aur
L38[01:08:00] <Amanda> For instance, arm I'm compiling ge Linux kernel for my pinephone
L39[01:08:05] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: did you rebuild the grub configuration
L40[01:08:11] <Izaya> several times
L41[01:08:24] <Izaya> but chaotic-aur is literally a bunch of compiled unstable AUR packages
L42[01:08:36] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L43[01:08:48] <Izaya> so I kind of expect it to break on occasion
L44[01:09:22] <Izaya> need to figure out a nice way to auto-build packages so I can keep my own kernel package
L45[01:09:43] <Amanda> And to be more accurate, I don't build anything locally anymore. I decided to throw money at nixbuild.net -- just point my machines at that as a remote builder and it's all done in ThE cLoUd
L46[01:10:42] <Amanda> Correction, I don't build anything hut i686-linux locally
L47[01:11:18] <Izaya> perhaps I should look into a distro for that ideapad at some point
L48[01:11:23] <Izaya> a shame arch doesn't do 32-bit any more
L49[01:11:27] <Izaya> don't really want to deal with
L50[01:11:37] <Izaya> https://mk.absturztau.be/files/webpublic-ecb79632-7e54-4f84-a3f4-18d026c56b52
L51[01:12:38] <Amanda> %remindme 12h you should probably rebuild miranda to use 34tauri before you forget again while nobody's home
L52[01:12:38] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "you should probably rebuild miranda to use 34tauri before you forget again while nobody's home" in 12h at 02/08/2022 01:12:38 PM
L53[01:23:10] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: archlinux32 exists
L54[01:23:10] <Ocawes​ome101> and seems decent
L55[01:54:39] <Izaya> 6700k machine is currently running a memtest at 1733MT/s
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L58[02:22:13] <Z0id​berg> Did I show this earlier? https://tinyurl.com/ydasoqa7
L59[02:22:24] <Z0id​berg> I ended up pinning this in my server lol
L60[02:24:44] <Amanda> No, you definately didn't post that. And Michiyo didn't repond,
L61[02:25:03] <Izaya> s/server/guild/
L62[02:25:03] <MichiBot> <Z0idberg> I ended up pinning this in my guild lol
L63[02:25:05] <Izaya> :)
L64[02:35:52] <Amanda> And apparently I halucinated dequbed responding, Judging from my schoolback
L65[02:44:56] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, reads to her about useless transbians hatching thanks to a ghost's curse
L66[02:46:13] <Izaya> Amanda: daily awesomewm-on-pinephone update: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/9af5.png
L67[02:46:34] <Izaya> I main this now
L68[02:48:09] <Amanda> Haha, I guess I ended up giving you the push you needed then?
L69[02:52:24] <Izaya> so it seems
L70[02:52:29] <Izaya> suspending is still flaky but eh
L71[02:54:49] <Klea​dron> haiku icons
L72[02:57:20] <Izaya> it's all svg so I could scale them to the right size
L73[03:08:30] <Michiyo> %tonk
L74[03:08:30] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Mic​hiyo! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 5 minutes and 19 seconds (By 2 hours, 7 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L75[03:08:31] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 7 hours, 12 minutes and 29 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.01272 (0.00212 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.05260568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L76[03:10:07] <Z0id​berg> Ok so it has been determined that Gandhi is the end boss of the Internet
L77[03:19:26] <luna​r_sam> wait
L78[03:19:34] <luna​r_sam> Izaya: DMP when?
L79[03:19:48] <Izaya> the KSP mod?
L80[03:19:51] <luna​r_sam> yes
L81[03:20:06] <luna​r_sam> since you have 32GB ;P
L82[03:20:12] <Izaya> I don't yet
L83[03:20:14] <Izaya> but when I do
L84[03:20:16] <Izaya> B)
L85[03:20:28] <luna​r_sam> oh yeah
L86[03:20:36] <Izaya> (the 6700k+board+memory is not in my main machine yet. soon™)
L87[03:21:59] <Michiyo> *sighs* I've done a bad thing
L88[03:22:10] <Michiyo> I bought a GPU
L89[03:22:36] <Michiyo> https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-tiger-king-joe-exotic-carole-baskin-kC2cRqEt8o41COgjoV
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L91[03:35:18] <prismatic> I know this probably isn't the right place to ask, but: has anyone here had experience with 1.12.2 modding? Forge absolutely refuses to load my mod's resources
L92[04:12:47] <Michiyo> Several folks here have 1.12 mods, myself included.
L93[04:13:00] <Michiyo> Do you have your source on Github?
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L95[04:31:52] <luna​r_sam> oh, i've modded 1.12 some
L96[04:52:54] <prismatic> Michiyo: I do, let me push updates real quick
L97[04:53:23] <prismatic> Currently I'm using a very, VERY cursed hack of loading the resource externally via mixins but that will probably break if I look at it wrong
L98[05:05:16] <prismatic> but hey, if it works it works
L99[05:47:21] <prismatic> my mod is becoming more and more cursed by the minute, lmao
L100[05:47:26] <prismatic> first it was the mixin hack
L101[05:47:29] <prismatic> now it's a hack to make the hack work
L102[05:47:54] <prismatic> and by "a hack" I mean "forcibly loading all the classes of a mod during coremod load"
L103[05:48:19] <prismatic> which will, apparently, have to include Minecraft's own classes
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L106[06:24:13] <Forec​aster> %sip
L107[06:24:14] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty gold potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Forecaster until they use "Sup Rather" in a sentence.
L108[06:24:48] <Forec​aster> Welp, I guess I live in space now
L109[06:45:25] <prismatic> i would like to know why geckolib doesn't load it's classes when the game is launched (is that a forge thing or geckolib being dumb?)
L110[06:45:35] <prismatic> i feel like it's the latter
L111[06:47:54] <Ocawes​ome101> probably🪜
L112[06:48:47] <prismatic> feels like a stupid design choice
L113[06:54:45] <Amanda> Elfi~ I blinked and this the 4 hours jumped past!
L114[06:55:58] <Amanda> It's all those foxen! It's even a legit take this time, I was reading a story about a trans fox girl!
L115[06:56:51] * Amanda collapses into a pile of floof ontop of Elfi, zzzmews
L116[06:57:01] <Amanda> Night nerds
L117[07:00:10] <Izaya> Michiyo: just realised that on the stats page I have really even activity distribution
L118[07:00:11] <Izaya> how depressing
L119[07:00:57] <prismatic> why does minecraft have like
L120[07:01:00] <prismatic> three different classloaders
L121[07:01:11] <Izaya> minecraft, modloader, forge, at a guess
L122[07:01:21] <prismatic> and also Mixin probably
L123[07:01:29] <prismatic> I guess I'll just have to invoke 'defineClass' on all of those
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L131[10:22:10] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L132[10:22:10] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Mic​hiyo! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 12 minutes and 29 seconds (By 1 minute and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L133[10:22:11] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.26648, Position #3 Need 0.03360568 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L135[11:12:11] <dequbed> Amanda: To be fair, I *really* had to bite my tongue on that one. So you know, maybe it was more telepathy than halucination :P
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L144[13:12:39] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: you should probably rebuild miranda to use 34tauri before you forget again while nobody's home
L145[13:18:47] <Z0id​berg> >prismatic: why does minecraft have like
L146[13:18:47] <Z0id​berg> Because Notch.
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L150[14:28:52] <Bob​Now> How do I setup a DHCP server in OC2? It really needs more documentation on stuff like that
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L153[15:07:50] <Ocawes​ome101> @BobNow does it have `dhcpcd`?
L154[15:07:55] <Ocawes​ome101> If so you can use that
L155[15:25:55] <B​ob> >BobNow: How do I setup a DHCP server in OC2? It really needs more documentatio…
L156[15:25:55] <B​ob> OC2 is barely alpha
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L159[15:33:34] <Bob​Now> nope
L160[15:33:41] <Bob​Now> >Ocawesome101: <@!477904264144879616> does it have `dhcpcd`?
L161[15:33:42] <Bob​Now> nop
L162[15:33:43] <Bob​Now> nope [Edited]
L163[15:33:55] <Bob​Now> >Bob: OC2 is barely alpha
L164[15:33:56] <Bob​Now> the manual says there should be a way
L165[15:40:35] <B​ob> i mean, you can always make everything in OC2 lol
L166[15:40:48] <B​ob> but i dont know about a builtin solution in the Linux env yet
L167[15:41:27] <Amanda> I'm pretty sure the manual also says that a certine level of linux sysadmin knowledge is expected at this stage of the mod's delevlopment
L168[15:47:34] <Forec​aster> >Amanda: I'm pretty sure the manual also says that a certine level of linux sysadmin k…
L169[15:47:34] <Forec​aster> I'm going to assume that level is 0, so I'll be fine, it'll do everything for me
L170[15:48:29] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/yoQpbfXVTUJYBeCBIGAjclKz/2022-02-08_10.47.55.png
L171[15:48:39] <Amanda> Well, that's certinely... an enchantment
L172[15:50:13] <Forec​aster> You can't do that! Bondage is sacred! Wait...
L173[16:06:04] <Va​ur> as sacred as the %tonk ?
L174[16:06:04] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 43 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L175[16:06:05] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 43 minutes and 54 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00573 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L182[17:34:14] <Z0id​berg> >Ocawesome101: <@!477904264144879616> does it have `dhcpcd`?
L183[17:34:14] <Z0id​berg> You know dhclient is better right? lololol
L184[17:34:22] <Ocawes​ome101> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L185[17:34:29] <Z0id​berg> I'm being a troll
L186[17:34:51] <Z0id​berg> wait
L187[17:34:56] <Z0id​berg> why use dhcp if you can just use RARP?
L188[17:34:57] <Z0id​berg> 😛
L189[17:35:58] <Z0id​berg> >BobNow: How do I setup a DHCP server in OC2? It really needs more documentation on …
L190[17:35:58] <Z0id​berg> if you're running Linux then just sinstall isc-dhcpd?
L191[17:36:29] <Z0id​berg> That has nothing to do with OC2
L192[17:37:00] <Z0id​berg> then you just make a dhcpd conf
L193[17:37:28] <Z0id​berg> Mine is set up so I can netboot stuff:
L194[17:37:28] <Z0id​berg> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/yicifenume
L195[17:37:28] <Bob​Now> I've never used this, can I download that with curl and how much ram does it use
L196[17:38:02] <Z0id​berg> isc dhcpd? not much. It stores the dhcp sessions to disk in /var/db usually somewhere
L197[17:38:06] <Bob​Now> I've never used this, can I download that from the web (apt isn't suppported) and how much ram does it use [Edited]
L198[17:38:47] <Bob​Now> I mean OC2 can't have more than 32MBs of ram per pc
L199[17:38:50] <Amanda> TIL about bluez's "mpris-proxy" command
L200[17:39:04] <Amanda> ( daemon? )
L201[17:39:53] <Z0id​berg> That's kind of funny considering the minimum requirement for >= Linux 2.6 is 32MB, and you have to adjust the kernel to run it on anything less. But, it was compiled to target an embedded system so..
L202[17:42:26] <Ocawes​ome101> linux-486 works on 8MB
L203[17:42:45] <Ocawes​ome101> though yes, i did have to adjust the load offset and whatnot
L204[17:46:45] <Bob​Now> oh sorry for the locomotion "setup-network.lua" handles it all if you say no to "Setup DHCP client? [y/N]". yes the capital N should have gave it away but it didn't
L205[17:57:58] <B​ob> i'm kinda wondering if the HLAPIs have MMIO instead 🤔
L206[17:58:14] <B​ob> i yet have to finish writting my Rust wrapper for the HLAPI
L207[17:58:20] <B​ob> and think about how i will make components a think
L208[17:58:25] <B​ob> ill want a macro 🤔
L209[17:58:36] <B​ob> i may write a dumper for methods in Lua
L210[17:58:46] <B​ob> and use `build.rs` to automatically build a component index
L211[17:59:12] <Ocawes​ome101> i rewrote cynosure's preemption code, and with it comes a new writeup https://ocawesome101.github.io/lua-preemption-2.html
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L214[18:32:38] <Amanda> ... interesting.
L215[18:33:23] <Amanda> Fabric's equivilent to the forge tag for glass includes glass panes, at least in this pack, so I can make 2* the AE glass fibers by turning the glass into panes first
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L228[20:19:59] <lunar_sam> mmm
L229[20:20:03] <lunar_sam> tsukinet stack time
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L234[20:45:29] <Ariri> yea i dunno why my znc thing wont work
L235[20:45:34] <Ariri> or my nextcloud in general
L236[20:45:44] <Ariri> im too stupid to manage a server
L237[20:46:54] <Ariri> so ill just use this now
L238[20:54:32] <Amanda> %remindme 20m seeds are done
L239[20:54:33] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "seeds are done" in 20m at 02/08/2022 09:14:32 PM
L240[21:14:33] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: seeds are done
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L245[22:20:57] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L246[22:20:58] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 43 minutes and 54 seconds (By 30 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L247[22:20:59] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.31358568. Position #2 Need 0.06344864 more points to pass Va​ur!
L248[22:31:22] <Amanda> %choose continue setting up AE2 in new pack or play with the pines
L249[22:31:22] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "continue setting up AE2 in new pack".
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L251[22:54:49] <Forec​aster> bah, now I'm at the point where I need to re-write the drone HUD I made and accidentally deleted...
L252[22:54:52] <Forec​aster> >:
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L257[23:49:34] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/y98x9ro9
L258[23:49:41] <Z0id​berg> I love this
L259[23:50:01] <B​ob> i literally drift with my cart all the time
L260[23:50:11] <Z0id​berg> I should ask my fiance if I do this
L261[23:50:34] <Z0id​berg> or if she does this when I do it
L262[23:50:34] <B​ob> i should be an adult now yet i'm 1cm away from breaking all the shelves at the store lmao
L263[23:50:45] <Z0id​berg> lol
L264[23:52:46] <Z0id​berg> Emily has definitely done this while we were at the store before
L265[23:52:55] <Z0id​berg> (making gear shifting noises with the shopping cart)
L266[23:54:36] * Izaya gear shifting noises
L267[23:54:38] <Izaya> time to go for a ride
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