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L2[00:13:36] <Amanda> %splash a sleeping fox with mutable pearlpeas potion
L3[00:13:37] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable pearlpeas potion (New!) that splashes onto a. a turns into a jumbonium octopus girl until they sneeze.
L4[00:21:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That doesn't seem to have worked as intended.
L5[00:21:28] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @Forecaster
L6[00:21:42] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I think the splash command parsing needs a tweak.
L7[00:22:18] <Michiyo> %splash "a sleeping fox" with mutable pearlpeas potion
L8[00:22:19] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable pearlpeas potion that splashes onto a sleeping fox. a sleeping fox turns into a sky lava girl until they have a nap.
L9[00:22:39] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Quotes are fun.
L10[00:22:46] <Michiyo> Amanda, if you're specifying a multi word target you have to quote it now
L11[00:23:03] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Also, was that two different results?
L12[00:23:06] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It was.
L13[00:23:10] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Hm.
L14[00:23:24] <Vampyre> %coffee IV please
L15[00:23:33] <Vampyre> mornin
L16[00:23:42] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Evening.
L17[00:23:49] <Michiyo> Afternoon
L18[00:24:02] <dequbed> Vampyre: Good wooden stake day to you
L19[00:24:43] <Vampyre> hmz, are you an investor banker dequbed? you seem to like stakes ;-)
L20[00:25:10] <dequbed> Nah I dislike bloodsuckers with no spine ;)
L21[00:25:39] <Vampyre> that would be leeches, not bats :-p
L22[00:26:25] <dequbed> Exactly. Bats are cute.
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L27[01:01:24] <TPG24> can youn't
L28[01:01:37] <Amanda> No
L29[01:01:50] <Amanda> ...
L30[01:02:13] <Amanda> My gay brain read that as "that would be lesbians" when scanning up
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L32[01:02:34] <TPG24> what about lesbian leeches?
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L38[02:15:37] <Shuud​oushi> why in the shitting dick nipples are y'all talking about lesbian leeches, of all fucking things...
L39[02:17:39] <Shuud​oushi> like, I come up with some profound shit, but that tops anything I've said at least this week...
L40[02:18:56] <Z​ef> ~~it was a single message, chill out~~
L41[02:23:48] <bad at​ vijya> who the FUCK ordered all this crazy bread
L42[02:25:42] * Amanda cuddles up around Elfi, zzzmews
L43[02:25:45] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L47[02:40:59] <Guest25869> hello
L48[02:41:46] <B​ob> Hey
L49[02:46:41] <Guest25869> The number "808" is a strobogrammatic number, this means it looks exactly the same when rotated 180 degrees or flipped upside d
L50[02:49:36] <ThePi​Guy24> the number 0 killed them before they could finish the sentence
L51[02:58:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @Shuudoushi This place gets rather random at times.
L52[02:58:38] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I've seen some covos that make me go 'How did you get to THAT topic?'.
L53[02:59:20] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L54[02:59:22] <Shuud​oushi> True
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L56[03:28:56] * Vampyre visits the wise Sage Shuudoshi, on top of the high vulcano
L57[03:29:18] <Vampyre> oh mighty oracle, what can you tell us provoudly today? ;-)
L58[03:37:55] <i develo​p things> Shuudoushi: interesting “why in the” expletive. You’re creative.
L59[03:49:44] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi is something for sure. I'm not 100% sure I'd class it as creative though
L60[03:50:36] <Shuud​oushi> Oi, you cheeky dick waffle
L61[03:52:32] * Vampyre walks down the vulcano again, slightly confused, but certainly enlightened
L62[04:01:41] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L63[04:52:55] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L64[04:52:55] <MichiBot> Holy sad looking flower Batman! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 1 minute and 17 seconds (By 4 hours, 16 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L65[04:52:56] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.14525. Position #2 Need 0.03007 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L67[05:11:02] <Michiyo> Bah, right.... OC support is broken
L68[05:11:03] <Michiyo> neat-o
L69[05:12:53] <Michiyo> Oh FFS, it helps to create the damn Environment
L70[05:19:29] <Michiyo> Right... also have to enable hotswap, and auto build so I can debug while in game
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L72[05:37:26] <Vampyre> sounds like you're doing the same as I did yesterday
L73[05:37:35] <Vampyre> the hotswap really helps
L74[05:40:33] <Ar​iri> Amanda, how scansat? i have spectro and altimeter but gives no science at kerbin
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L77[05:45:30] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so the fascist shithole seems to have remarkably difficult hosting requirements: https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/1350612426115452935
L78[05:45:31] <MichiBot> Sun Jan 17 01:14:30 UTC 2021 @th3j35t3r: Anyone wanna know what Parler are trying to put together from other hosting providers that aren't AWS?
L79[05:55:58] <Michiyo> What the fuck
L80[06:03:23] <CompanionCube> yeah, the first cluster itself is in the $100k/mo range
L81[06:09:36] <CompanionCube> ah, yes, one of the replies indicates their actual bill being 300ish
L82[06:13:36] * Michiyo hugs her OVH Advance 2 with 64GB of RAM
L83[06:13:40] <Michiyo> It's ok, I still love you.
L84[06:14:18] <Michiyo> ok, the OpenCargo tag writer works
L85[06:14:43] <Michiyo> Now... I need to make my slots not accept items from hoppers if they're not allowed.
L86[06:17:45] <Shuud​oushi> @CompanionCube "the fascist shithole" twitter looking for new hosting?
L87[06:19:02] <CompanionCube> i meant the explicitly-fascist shithole :p
L88[06:23:46] <Shuud​oushi> @CompanionCube parler wasn't nearly as bad as it was made out to be. I think I saw like three loonbats make it to the top of discovery. Meanwhile in twitter land, loonbats are basically the only people on trending 90% of the time
L89[06:26:24] * Michiyo blinks
L90[06:26:39] <Michiyo> Right...
L91[06:26:43] <Michiyo> Anyway
L92[06:27:31] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo shit less fucked yet?
L93[06:28:00] <Shuud​oushi> Because SoS is still 100% jacked thanks to the sha256 lib...
L94[06:28:49] <Shuud​oushi> Got to find and convert a lib that's actually meant for Lua 5.3, bot looking forward to it x.x
L95[06:29:18] <Shuud​oushi> s/bot/not
L96[06:29:19] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> s/not/not
L97[06:29:30] <i develo​p things> Tbh I wouldn’t think it’d be that difficult, just tedious
L98[06:29:40] <Shuud​oushi> Fuck you too michibot...
L99[06:30:00] <Shuud​oushi> @i develop things same same
L100[06:30:02] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi use %s from discord
L101[06:30:24] <Mic​hiyo> hello
L102[06:30:28] <Shuud​oushi> It worked before tho x.x
L103[06:30:30] <Mic​hiyo> %s/hello/test/
L104[06:30:30] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> test
L105[06:30:55] <Michiyo> Discord has built in s/ support, which causes issues, so discord users have to %s
L106[06:31:28] <Shuud​oushi> That's fucking stupid, but kinda cool i guess...
L107[06:31:33] <Michiyo> Also, https://github.com/Egor-Skriptunoff/pure_lua_SHA/blob/master/sha2.lua
L108[06:31:34] <Michiyo> -- MD5, SHA-1,
L109[06:31:34] <Michiyo> -- SHA-224, SHA-256, SHA-512/224, SHA-512/256, SHA-384, SHA-512,
L110[06:31:34] <Michiyo> -- SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA3-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256,
L111[06:31:34] <Michiyo> -- HMAC
L112[06:31:54] <Michiyo> It's huge, but have fun :P
L113[06:32:07] <Michiyo> You could likely trim it down to just what you need
L114[06:33:25] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo did you just have that fucking saved or something? Granted, i haven't actually put any effort at all into finding a new one, but still lol
L115[06:33:41] <Michiyo> I searched for "lua 5.3 sha256"
L116[06:33:54] <Michiyo> which got me this SO https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52990480/lua-sha256-library
L117[06:33:58] <Michiyo> which linked to the above
L118[06:35:11] <Michiyo> Now, you figure out how I use insertItem in my IItemHandler
L119[06:39:20] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo magic :D
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L121[06:44:59] * Michiyo grumbles
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L123[06:52:35] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo you ask the motherfucker that has never modded minecraft to figure out modding minecraft... It's fucking magic lol
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L125[06:54:13] <Shuud​oushi> Immibis: insertitem, itemhandler, who do?
L126[06:54:40] <Shuud​oushi> %s/who/how
L127[06:54:40] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> Immibis: insertitem, itemhandler, how do?
L128[06:58:26] <ben_mkiv> ItemHandler? Didn't you mean to use ItemStackHandler?!
L129[06:58:58] <Shuud​oushi> @ben_mkiv idfk, ask michiyo lol
L130[06:59:13] <ben_mkiv> that was for @MichiBot
L131[06:59:16] <ben_mkiv> that was for @Michiyo
L132[07:00:51] <ben_mkiv> %choose grocerys then work or work then grocerys
L133[07:00:51] <MichiBot> ben_​mkiv: Some "grocerys then work" sounds nice
L134[07:02:56] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/y5ghnfqu
L135[07:03:11] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
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L137[07:03:48] <Mic​hiyo> Ben_mkiv picking up so from work. Not sure WHAT im doing in code
L138[07:03:57] <Shuud​oushi> 99 bugs in the code! 99 bugs in the code! Take one down, patch it around. 105 bugs in the code?
L139[07:04:09] <Mic​hiyo> Ive not pushed to git in a bit either
L140[07:04:22] <ben_mkiv> me neither, but thats totally irrelevant
L141[07:04:54] <Mic​hiyo> If i had pushed before i left id linm you lmao
L142[07:04:59] <Mic​hiyo> Anyway now driving
L143[07:05:02] <ben_mkiv> anyways, the bot wants me to go buy food, later...
L144[07:05:08] <Shuud​oushi> << uses github desktop because he's a lazy POS and has grown to hate powershell because windows
L145[07:05:17] <Vampyre> Scala code: () => screen.hasKeyboard()
L146[07:05:17] <Vampyre> Java code: new AbstractFunction0<Object>() { @Override public Object apply() { return apply$mcZ$sp(); } @Override public boolean apply$mcZ$sp() { return screen.hasKeyboard(); } }
L147[07:05:23] <Vampyre> whyy.....
L148[07:05:50] <ben_mkiv> because someone thought using scala was good idea
L149[07:06:00] <ben_mkiv> for a mod that allows 3rd party content
L150[07:06:02] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L151[07:06:21] <Shuud​oushi> Ya sangar!
L152[07:07:21] <Vampyre> well, atleast it makes extending classes a fun puzzle ;-)
L153[07:07:44] <Vampyre> the 1 correct line an hour think kinda blows though...
L154[07:07:50] <Vampyre> thing*
L155[07:08:18] <Shuud​oushi> I didn't realize how massive this lib was till i did a git pull from inside OCVM....
L156[07:08:55] <Shuud​oushi> Oh my fuck... It's nearly 3k lines...
L157[07:09:16] <Shuud​oushi> RIP. This gonna take awhile...
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L159[07:25:57] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, ok I'm home
L160[07:26:09] <Michiyo> yes, I'm using a ItemStackHandler
L161[07:26:32] <Michiyo> I just don't know how to stop something like a hopper from inserting into my slot if the item isn't valid
L162[07:26:46] <Michiyo> OS has the same issue.. I've just always hoped no one would figure it out
L163[07:27:24] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenCargo/blob/main/src/main/java/com/pclogix/opencargo/common/tileentity/TagWriterTileEntity.java
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L165[07:31:09] <Michiyo> and https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenCargo/blob/main/src/main/java/com/pclogix/opencargo/common/container/TagWriterContainer.java
L166[07:31:16] <Ko​dos> The hell is this
L167[07:33:06] <Michiyo> IDK some thing @Forecaster wanted
L168[07:34:15] <Forec​aster> \o/
L169[07:34:30] <Michiyo> It's very close to working
L170[07:34:40] <Michiyo> just finishing up UI/Inventory and OC methods
L171[07:34:40] <Forec​aster> @BrisingrAerowing like Michiyo said it's working as intended
L172[07:35:01] <Forec​aster> namely that every command has access to a standardized argument parser now
L173[07:35:17] <Forec​aster> (though there's still a couple of commands that need to be updated to use it)
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L175[07:36:38] <Michiyo> though stuff likemsplash could likely split on 'with' to make it a bit more intuitive
L176[07:36:57] <Michiyo> s/ems/e s/
L177[07:36:57] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> though stuff like splash could likely split on 'with' to make it a bit more intuitive
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L179[07:47:38] <Forec​aster> it's "intuitive" to the people who've been using the commands like that for ages :P
L180[07:47:56] <Forec​aster> I think a consistent argument system across all commands is more intuitive
L181[07:48:11] <Forec​aster> instead of each command working differently
L182[07:49:55] <Ko​dos> Okay, but what's OpenCargo do
L183[07:50:11] <Forec​aster> stuff, and things
L184[07:50:22] <Ko​dos> ...
L185[07:50:23] <Forec​aster> hopefully
L186[07:50:24] <Ko​dos> I'm going to bed.
L187[07:50:51] <Forec​aster> I asked Michi to make a stackable storage medium
L188[07:51:00] <Forec​aster> like a mag-card
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L191[08:03:10] <Michiyo> BTW @"Forecaster"
L192[08:03:10] <Michiyo> function(string: data, string: displayName, int: count, int: color):string; writes data to the tag, 128 characters, the rest is silently discarded, 2nd argument will change the displayed name of the tag in your inventory. if you pass an integer to the 3rd argument you can craft up to 64 at a time, the 4th argument will set the color of the card, use OC's color api.
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L194[08:03:43] <Shuud​oushi> lolololol, well fuck me, guess I really will have to chop that lib up XD https://tinyurl.com/y3kmojjp
L195[08:03:55] <Michiyo> lol
L196[08:03:57] <Michiyo> GJ
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L198[08:04:20] <Michiyo> Bleh
L199[08:04:24] <Michiyo> fucking hate inventories
L200[08:04:24] <ben_mkiv> well
L201[08:04:35] <ben_mkiv> you override the stuff in itemstackhandler iirc
L202[08:04:59] <Michiyo> I don't have a custom ItemStackHandler.. so I guess I have to do that
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L204[08:05:05] <Shuud​oushi> mind you, I have the ram values like tripled or something in the config, so yeah, I did a thing 😄
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L206[08:06:33] <Shuud​oushi> either way, that's future me's headache, present me is going the fuck to sleep lol
L207[08:06:45] <Shuud​oushi> night/mornin' y'all
L208[08:08:00] <Michiyo> Night
L209[08:08:06] <ben_mkiv> Michiyo, https://github.com/ben-mkiv/OCDevices/blob/86c83d925b98dca54692c9e0bcdaa9bd5fd21556/src/main/java/ben_mkiv/ocdevices/common/tileentity/TileEntityItemBench.java#L31-L50
L210[08:08:25] <Michiyo> Oh, awesome
L211[08:08:26] <Michiyo> thanks
L212[08:08:46] <Forec​aster> I guess there'll be no assignable textures then :P
L213[08:09:30] <Michiyo> @Forecaster I've not figured out how to render a block texture on an item yet. It's a stretch goal.
L214[08:09:31] <Michiyo> :P
L215[08:09:49] <Michiyo> I can render an item texture/model on a block with no issue..
L216[08:09:54] <Michiyo> but the other way around, not so much
L217[08:10:00] <ben_mkiv> yea it'll be a pita, so that one will stretch for sure xD
L218[08:10:20] <Forec​aster> hm, 128 characters...
L219[08:10:40] <Michiyo> The limit can be whatever, I just stole a decent chunk of code from OpenSec :P
L220[08:10:52] <Forec​aster> that's the same as a mag card right?
L221[08:10:55] <Michiyo> Yeah
L222[08:12:16] <Forec​aster> it's quite a lot, should be more than enough to encode a goods type and coordinates in
L223[08:12:56] <ben_mkiv> that's how i render item icons in openglasses on 2D space https://github.com/ben-mkiv/commons0815/blob/master/src/main/java/ben_mkiv/rendertoolkit/common/widgets/component/common/ItemIcon.java
L224[08:13:09] <Forec​aster> also remember that I need them to be permanently non-rewritable
L225[08:13:34] <Michiyo> @Forecaster the writer just doesn't except any card with data on it lol
L226[08:13:53] <Forec​aster> I want players to be able to read them so you can use computers to manage logistics, but I don't want them to be able to counterfeit them
L227[08:14:40] <Michiyo> well, great news is readers can accept cards with data on 'em lol
L228[08:14:44] <Ariri> Izaya, does KSP store something on the system drive? I've got CKAN and my KSP instance supposedly on my SSD, but it's slower than it should be and taskman says its doing ops on my hdd more than anything
L229[08:14:48] <ben_mkiv> the relevant part for you is probably line 88, then switch to MC textures 92-93, and tthen render out 119-132
L230[08:16:48] <Forec​aster> Michiyo what, who would use such a feature? :P
L231[08:20:49] <Michiyo> Thank you for the ItemStackHandler
L232[08:20:55] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, that worked perfectly
L233[08:21:41] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L234[08:21:41] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L235[08:21:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00348 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook ThePiGuy24) Need 0.04373 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L236[08:32:03] <Michiyo> aaaaand now it's broken
L237[08:32:04] <Michiyo> <_>
L238[08:32:07] <Michiyo> fuck you Minecraft
L239[08:34:25] <Michiyo> GOD DAMN IT FUCK YOU INVENTORIES
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L244[08:43:14] <Michiyo> Ok, so no I was wrong the ItemStackHandler class doesn't work, likely because I'm an idiot
L245[08:43:29] <Michiyo> isItemValid never gets called
L246[08:53:07] * Michiyo grumbles
L247[08:59:49] <Michiyo> Ah, switched to 'insertItem' instead of 'isItemValid'
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L249[09:00:23] <Izaya> Ariri: it's colmfortably self-contained on my machine
L250[09:07:40] <Izaya> comfortably*
L251[09:08:00] <Izaya> CompanionCube: yeah I was laughing about that on fedi
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L254[09:30:21] <Michiyo> @Forecaster https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/9gTj3i8NHfdAtHY
L255[09:30:25] <Michiyo> happy birthmas
L256[09:31:27] <ThePi​Guy24> hapry birthmas, merpy christday
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L258[09:42:45] <Michiyo> And now my FFXIV houses are safe again, back to the mod
L259[09:42:52] <Michiyo> for about 18 more minutes
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L261[09:57:09] <Michiyo> @Forecaster even better, it also returns the number of tags in the slot
L262[09:57:10] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/aoG9oHdENXeaZjy
L263[10:01:20] <Izaya> Ariri: additionally, I'd be pretty mad if KSP were storing stuff on my / rather than /home because that's not allowed
L264[10:05:12] <Forec​aster> Number of tags?
L265[10:05:23] <Forec​aster> Oh, number of items
L266[10:05:26] <Forec​aster> Neat
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L268[10:10:23] <Izaya> https://www.pine64.org/2021/01/17/mobian-community-edition/
L269[10:10:26] <Izaya> neat
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L271[10:17:43] <Inari> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2119687603 huh, seems neat. Might even make peaceful runs more interesting
L272[10:20:14] <Michiyo> Also, this is a thing https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/CndzLmgyQ4oRPba
L273[10:24:48] <Inari> Wonder if that mod would work together with other mods that add new tech
L274[10:26:44] <Michiyo> Shit I was supposed to be in bed 26 minutes ago.
L275[10:26:49] <Michiyo> But... modding
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L278[10:32:22] <ThePi​Guy24> but will it have oc integration :thonk:
L279[10:51:49] <Vampyre> The type FBScreenDriver cannot subclass the final class DriverScreen
L280[10:52:00] <Vampyre> whyyyy final... *cries*
L281[11:11:08] <ThePi​Guy24> i like your funny words magic man
L282[11:58:37] <Forec​aster> @ThePiGuy24 OC in RimWorld
L283[11:59:44] <Inari> Vampyre: Cause no one wants facebook to read their screen
L284[11:59:57] <ThePiGuy24> port RimWorld to OC
L285[12:05:33] <Optional o​pt = null;> just port Linux, QEMU and all the required libraries for QEMU first
L286[12:08:18] <Vampyre> lol, yeah, ok, I guess anything FB* just gets blocked for precaution... not a bad policy I must say
L287[12:13:18] <Optional o​pt = null;> make it FramebufferScreenDriver
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L290[12:18:16] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L291[12:18:16] <MichiBot> Willikers! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds (By 27 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L292[12:18:17] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 3 hours, 56 minutes and 34 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00184 (0.00046 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.04202 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L293[12:19:17] <Izaya> with a load average of ~5, and only one CPU fan, we're sitting on 60°
L294[12:19:19] <Izaya> not too bad
L295[12:19:59] <ThePi​Guy24> approximatley 5 loads
L296[12:20:07] <Izaya> yup
L297[12:20:31] <Izaya> re-compressing ARK because it was updated and the updated files are lzo instead of zstd
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L299[13:06:12] <Vampyre> after wading through the scala swamps I am slowly reaching the plains of java: https://winaoe.org/oc/OCFB1.png
L300[13:06:34] <Vampyre> not that it can set anything yet, or output... but atleast it's capable! ;-)
L301[13:08:50] <dequbed> @Shuudoushi is the perfect expletive oracle. Can't see them turning down a job where they get payed to be stoned constantly either.
L302[13:11:56] <dequbed> Izaya: How many cores do you have? o.O
L303[13:12:08] <Izaya> 4 with HT
L304[13:12:30] <dequbed> So 2 physical 4 fake ones or 4 physical 8 fake ones?
L305[13:12:41] <Izaya> 4 cores, 8 threads
L306[13:13:05] <dequbed> Eh I guess that makes a load of 5 high <.<
L307[13:13:25] <Izaya> 6 and above would be concerning
L308[13:13:39] <Izaya> because I count the extra threads as worth about half as much as normal cores
L309[13:14:12] <dequbed> My monitoring defaulted to warn at load >= 1. It was then that I noted just how little CPU my server used. :D
L310[13:14:45] <ThePi​Guy24> on linux an idle load of 5 is high, on windows it is suprisingly low :P
L311[13:15:06] <dequbed> I mean that linux wasn't exactly /idle/.
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L313[13:17:51] <Izaya> dequbed: got another cursed hypothetical for you
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L315[13:18:19] <Izaya> how absurd a central object would one need to have multiple solar systems orbiting it in (relatively) close proximity
L316[13:18:22] <ThePi​Guy24> wait where did the random influx if views of my yt drum and bass playlist come from
L317[13:18:23] <Izaya> would that work at all?
L318[13:18:31] <ThePi​Guy24> i blame the algorithm
L319[13:18:47] <dequbed> Izaya: ... *how* close?
L320[13:19:30] <dequbed> Because I mean like most galaxies are just multiple solar systems orbiting a black hole ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L321[13:20:25] <Izaya> close enough to make interstellar travel with current technology only take a lifetime
L322[13:20:37] <dequbed> Uh okay that's no issue at all.
L323[13:20:54] <dequbed> Getting to alpha centauri with current tech only takes a lifetime
L324[13:21:29] <dequbed> 0.1c is totally possible with reaction vessels.
L325[13:22:14] <Izaya> alpha centauri is ~4.2Ly away
L326[13:22:21] <dequbed> Are you trying to build a pre-warp society (I'm calling it pre-warp as standin for <technology that allows FTL travel with little time dillitation>)
L327[13:22:22] <Izaya> how about 1Ly? 0.5? 0.25?
L328[13:23:03] <Izaya> How close can we put stuff together, and keep it together, before it rips itself apart? :D
L329[13:23:12] <ThePi​Guy24> cat can have little a time dilation, as a treat
L330[13:25:40] <dequbed> Izaya: Uh pretty close. At 2 ly the sun's gravity is about matched with other stars so anything beyond that is only really affected at galactic scales.
L331[13:26:36] <dequbed> See also Oort cloud
L332[13:27:53] <dequbed> If you want actual numbers I'll need your exact solar systems, sun sized and about a weeks worth of time to solve the linear equasions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L333[13:28:21] <Amanda> exact solar systems* ? :P
L334[13:28:51] <Amanda> if one's Sol-eaq, and th other's Oops All Hot Jupiters, that'd change it, I assume
L335[13:29:09] <Amanda> s/eaq/esq/
L336[13:29:09] <MichiBot> <Amanda> if one's Sol-esq, and th other's Oops All Hot Jupiters, that'd change it, I assume
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L338[13:29:57] <Vampyre> you can get way closer to even supermassive black holes then you'd think
L339[13:30:32] <Izaya> dequbed: but in theory one could have multiple star systems in orbit of something else within a Ly?
L340[13:30:39] <Vampyre> closest star to our black hole gets I think around the orbit of neptune or something
L341[13:30:55] <dequbed> Izaya: Yes, definitely
L342[13:31:33] <Izaya> neat
L343[13:31:46] <dequbed> I mean it's just a special case of multiple-star systems
L344[13:32:25] <Izaya> there's setups like that in E:D but I never looked into them too hard
L345[13:32:34] <Amanda> just don'tgo too planet/moon-crazy, that's what did in the FIrefly universe I think
L346[13:33:08] <Izaya> where you have small stars with planets orbiting big stars
L347[13:33:11] <Amanda> ( ISTR that someone Did The Math™ and it'd fly apart like a bike with all the bolts removed )
L348[13:33:49] <Izaya> :D
L349[13:34:18] <Vampyre> like proxima centauri orbiting the dual system of alpha centauri and beta centauri? (all with planets)
L350[13:34:22] <dequbed> Izaya: Real life has such interesting constellations as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HR_6819
L351[13:34:32] <Vampyre> like dequbed said, 4 ly away
L352[13:35:09] <dequbed> Izaya: Better question, do you want liveable planets in there? :p
L353[13:35:41] <Izaya> that is not a hard requirement, but would be ideal
L354[13:36:19] <Vampyre> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxima_Centauri_b
L355[13:36:23] <Vampyre> in the habital zone
L356[13:36:25] <Izaya> I feel like anything with enough mass to have multiple star systems orbiting it probably won't be long-lived enough to actually get to the point of having life
L357[13:36:27] <Vampyre> 4 ly away
L358[13:38:43] <dequbed> Izaya: That becomes pretty hard. Depending on the exact distances and setup you will get intense tidal effects on planets pretty much keeping them from generating a solid surface. Or you're just burning them with the power of three suns :P
L359[13:38:52] <Izaya> :D
L360[13:39:33] <Izaya> as much as I'd like to say "This is fine," I feel like it's probably really not
L361[13:40:05] <dequbed> How is that planet at the end of Star Wars III called, the one with all the lava?
L362[13:40:18] <ThePi​Guy24> lavaboi 7
L363[13:40:24] <Izaya> I wanna say mustafar but I haven't seen it in years
L364[13:40:31] <dequbed> Mustafar sounds right
L365[13:40:37] <dequbed> Anyway, that's about what you can expect :P
L366[13:40:38] <ThePi​Guy24> Musafa
L367[13:40:52] <Izaya> and my brain is in the process of purging all star wars related stuff because I'm fucking sick of hearing about it from normies ree
L368[13:45:42] <dequbed> Izaya: Also I need to find it again but there was a paper explaining a potential for metastable multiple-body orbits, i.e. a planet that dances with /two/ suns of a trinary system in a figure-eight pattern.
L369[13:46:55] <dequbed> I *think* that was only stable in trinay and binary systems and it's also not very fun to live on given that you get touble the thermal input half the year but "This is fine :)"
L370[13:49:59] <dequbed> Vampyre: Also Proxima Centauri b is a bad example for habitable planet given what we know about Alpha Centauri C :p
L371[13:51:08] * Amanda burns the land, boils the sea
L372[13:51:15] * Amanda takes the sky from Inari
L373[13:51:33] <dequbed> Izaya: Anyway, what even are you going for? I wanna know! :D
L374[13:52:10] <Izaya> was mostly a hypothetical
L375[13:52:19] <Izaya> I'm exploring possibilities of why people would settle in any given place
L376[13:52:37] <Izaya> and a cursed rather unstable system could be desirable if it also meant you had a lot of raw material to work with
L377[13:53:12] <Izaya> plus having multiple really close star systems would be neat from a storytelling perspective
L378[13:54:04] <Izaya> islands vs continents vs planets, scale-wise, sorta thing
L379[13:54:17] <dequbed> ah
L380[13:54:42] <Amanda> The queendom of Nyan, located on the planet Nya
L381[13:55:36] <dequbed> Izaya: Actually I guess in that case having insane tidal effects would be neat because it prevents heavy elements from sinking to the core of the planet effectively. But you get similar effects with asteroid and dwarf planet mining
L382[13:56:02] <Izaya> dequbed: another option is just having fucktonnes of asteroids
L383[13:56:24] <Izaya> like, shit, do you even need planets if you have space ships anyway?
L384[13:56:46] * Izaya waves copy of "The Outcast of Heaven's Belt"
L385[13:56:51] <Izaya> s/cast/casts/
L386[13:56:52] <MichiBot> * Izaya waves copy of "The Outcasts of Heaven's Belt"
L387[13:57:10] <dequbed> Izaya: Hmm I'd need to read up again but I would instinctively say that binary or trinary system have much *less* asteroids given that they have less stable orbits.
L388[13:57:25] * Izaya nods
L389[13:57:59] <Forec​aster> %sip
L390[13:57:59] <MichiBot> You drink a light dalekanium potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly stronger.
L391[13:58:27] <Shuud​oushi> I don't like getting stoned
L392[13:58:43] <Izaya> how about getting rocked
L393[13:58:55] * Izaya crosses out and rewrites label on rock box
L394[13:59:15] <Shuud​oushi> @Izaya can't say I'd suggest trying lol
L395[13:59:35] * Amanda puts @Shuudoshi in a helicopter at the beginning of a video game
L396[13:59:53] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, not again x.x
L397[14:00:00] <dequbed> Izaya: How advanced is your civilzation? You could have them initiate a carbon deflagration in the minor star of a binary system and use the major one to keep the system stable and energy flowing. Say bye-bye to all other planets on stable orbits though
L398[14:00:29] <Izaya> carbon dewhat?
L399[14:00:37] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L400[14:00:38] <dequbed> Make a dwarf go boom.
L401[14:00:43] <Izaya> o-oh
L402[14:00:44] <Shuud​oushi> XD
L403[14:00:46] <Izaya> :D
L404[14:00:51] <Amanda> It's when you take the flag off a coal mine
L405[14:00:57] <dequbed> Well not /boom/. More like <silence> BOOM. <everyone dead>
L406[14:00:58] * Amanda nods sagely
L407[14:01:18] <dequbed> It's basically a super nova but more violent
L408[14:01:55] <Izaya> is this less controlled star lifting
L409[14:02:52] <dequbed> More or less, sure
L410[14:03:31] <dequbed> Also it takes less than a second but outputs about as much energy as you'd expect. Like I said. More violent super nova :)
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L412[14:04:25] <dequbed> Izaya: https://wwwmpa.mpa-garching.mpg.de/mpa/research/current_research/hl2004-10/hl2004-10-en.html
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L418[15:01:08] <Amanda> Man, Kirbin's sure looking different these days: https://nc.ddna.co/s/qRczsxKNyABDHYj
L419[15:01:47] <Amanda> Also, do all the tier-1 buildings look this banged up? https://nc.ddna.co/s/SpZTx8eBZP97k9W ( I stole Izzaya'a science-rover idea )
L420[15:02:41] <Izaya> the packrat was built for this
L421[15:02:56] <Izaya> protip
L422[15:03:05] <Izaya> scientist on a ladder facing all the science gear
L423[15:03:14] <Izaya> probe core on the rover
L424[15:03:21] <Izaya> science notification window open
L425[15:03:26] <Izaya> repeatedly deploy and collect all
L426[15:03:42] <Izaya> make sure you have at least two science storage thingos for faster collection of all available science
L427[15:04:17] <Amanda> I uh. just put a bunch of goo canasters on it
L428[15:04:48] <Amanda> science storage thingo?
L429[15:04:57] <Izaya> I'll be mildly impressed with anyone that can tell me what these tracks have in common (except CompanionCube) https://social.shadowkat.net/media/fdcd018074ac9c1decbd55aef4a2d158c289c0b409b168e5587a168208c3e6d9.png
L430[15:05:06] <Izaya> either the takeout boxes or the packrat crates
L431[15:07:49] <Amanda> do those need science?
L432[15:08:05] <Amanda> rather, research
L433[15:08:16] <Izaya> there's also the experiment return unit
L434[15:08:30] <Izaya> the 1.25 to 0.625 adaptor one
L435[15:08:34] <Izaya> if you don't have either
L436[15:08:40] <Amanda> oh "Experiment Storage Unit"
L437[15:11:33] <Amanda> can they store ore than one experiment?
L438[15:11:58] <Izaya> they can store an unlimited number of non-duplicat experiments, as far as I can tell
L439[15:12:09] <Izaya> which is why I go for two
L440[15:12:09] <Amanda> oh. so 4 is overkill
L441[15:13:29] <dequbed> Amanda: Why did you move your KSC to Neptune? :p
L442[15:16:21] <Amanda> dequbed: thought it'd give me more dV to mars
L443[15:17:48] <Amanda> oh,Goo and material sciences can't be repeated?
L444[15:17:57] <dequbed> Well a scientist can reset them
L445[15:18:01] <dequbed> but not without that
L446[15:18:16] <Amanda> oh
L447[15:18:34] <dequbed> There's a reason to have every profession on a mission :p
L448[15:18:36] <Amanda> guess I can't just do a full probe then, I guess that's why Izaya's got one
L449[15:19:06] <dequbed> Well I mean you get one of every profession for free, might as well make use of them :p
L450[15:19:10] <t20kdc> Izaya: Digital: A Love Story
L451[15:19:26] <Izaya> ayy we have a winner
L452[15:19:30] <Izaya> which I shouldn't be surprised about
L453[15:19:32] <Izaya> I suppose
L454[15:19:35] <t20kdc> Space Beacon gave it away,
L455[15:19:55] <t20kdc> because I remember having no idea where the hell it came from and searches were not helpful
L456[15:24:07] <Izaya> paper dolls though
L457[15:26:22] <Amanda> What's the name of that external seat again?
L458[15:26:41] <Amanda> I figure put Bob in one of those
L459[15:27:16] <Izaya> there's a PackRat-specific seat
L460[15:27:20] <Izaya> which I think you unlock earlier anyway
L461[15:27:26] <Izaya> rover category
L462[15:28:01] <Amanda> so there is!
L463[15:32:16] <Amanda> What a rude sample: https://nc.ddna.co/s/MtYfNG3KaTKRYW7
L464[15:32:28] <Amanda> must be the foxmetal
L465[15:33:45] <Amanda> Izaya: is there a mod int his pack that bumps up the graphics or something? I swear I used to be able to play this fine in fullscreen on my laptop
L466[15:33:58] <Izaya> the optional stuff would be heavier
L467[15:34:15] <Izaya> it's relatively lightweight but scatterer + EvE + config would be doing a number on most mobile GPUs I imagine
L468[15:35:23] <Amanda> are either of those gameplay-changing?
L469[15:36:22] <Amanda> oh wait, I founda GUI Scale option, will go back to 720 and lower that some
L470[15:36:57] <Izaya> no they're just visual
L471[15:37:31] <Amanda> I think I may have to bite th ebullet and send my laptop back in for another RMA, I think the CPU's giving up the ghost in this thing
L472[15:37:52] <Amanda> I'll see if I can do some cleaning first though
L473[15:38:22] * Izaya sweats
L474[15:38:27] <Forec​aster> judge the sample back
L475[16:09:01] <dequbed> Izaya: I have a challenge for you: Put a SCANsat in polar mun orbit with a direct insertion from the KSC launchpad ;)
L476[16:12:06] <Forec​aster> all of Amanda's scansats are really catscansats
L477[16:12:36] <Amanda> please, they're the BoomRocket 4(SCANsat Satellite)
L478[16:14:58] <dequbed> Amanda: I mean you're free to try as well :p
L479[16:15:32] <Amanda> dequbed: considering it took me like three attempts to even get there satellite in orbit around kirbin...
L480[16:15:57] <Amanda> I need to find some tutorials for this stuff I think, it's been too long
L481[16:16:20] <dequbed> Is there a reason you call Kerbin Kirbin?
L482[16:16:46] <Amanda> Because I speel gud
L483[16:17:13] <Amanda> ( and that's how I pronounce it, kirb as in the first half of kirby, in )
L484[16:17:33] <dequbed> Amanda: Also executed right a direct insertion into polar mun orbit is just launching into a gravity turn and then forgetting to turn the throttle down until you encounter the moon :P
L485[16:17:36] <dequbed> Kirbyn
L486[16:19:25] <Amanda> It doesn't help that a lot of the features got locked behind facility upgrades. I wasn't sure if the nodes were removed, a mod in the first placez or what until I upgraded the right building
L487[16:26:53] <Amanda> Welp,I guess the satellite can't run in the dark side: https://nc.ddna.co/s/bsK9Wdo32cyx6cb
L488[16:30:59] <Forec​aster> well, for a little bit
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L490[16:51:32] <Amanda> Izaya, dequbed: Is there some trick to making things back away when the coupler goes off? I've lost several boosters to them crashing into the rocket during ascent
L491[16:52:19] <Izaya> angle the SRBs one shift-W away from the rocket
L492[16:52:27] <Izaya> so the drag makes them spiral off
L493[16:52:57] <Amanda> somehow it never occurd to me that that'd work
L494[16:53:03] <Amanda> ( That is, that it could be built like that )
L495[16:53:32] <Forec​aster> some decouplers have a push force that ejects the payload away from the main rocket
L496[16:54:02] <Amanda> oh, the TT-90 has something like that in it's settings
L497[16:55:14] <Amanda> ... so does the one I was using, but it's sometimes notenough
L498[16:55:40] <Izaya> I always use the smallest one
L499[16:56:00] <Va​ur> %tonk
L500[16:56:00] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 3 hours, 56 minutes and 34 seconds (By 41 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L501[16:56:01] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 37 minutes and 44 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00276 (0.00069 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L502[16:56:15] <i develo​p things> Minify it
L503[16:56:46] <Izaya> aren't weechat filters great
L504[16:56:53] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/5kb4vQprfQY-zq8I/Screenshot_2021-01-19_03-51-42.png
L505[16:58:06] <Shuud​oushi> That was the plan. I was just curious if it'd run at all with a straight copy paste, turns out that nearly 3k likes of code is just too much 🙃
L506[16:59:03] <i develo​p things> ....the paragon kernel is ~4500 lines unminified. Different code and different environment though :P
L507[16:59:12] <Va​ur> filtering out anyone that plays I see 😄
L508[16:59:19] * Izaya sweats
L509[16:59:24] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L510[16:59:24] <Izaya> what's defined as the kernel?
L511[17:00:05] <Izaya> Vaur: I have filters for most of the tonk-associated messages. I won't even see this message :D
L512[17:00:06] <Amanda> Izaya, dequbed: Any hints on how to get started with a station? Like, can the dock clamps be done in the VAB or something? I guess I'm not sure on how to get stuff into orbit that doesn't keep a rocket on the final process.
L513[17:00:28] <Izaya> Docking clamps can be attached in the VAB yes
L514[17:00:33] <Shuud​oushi> Something tells me that sha256 encoding takes a bit more ram than the kernel lol
L515[17:00:46] <Izaya> you can also attach decouplers to the docking clamps
L516[17:01:11] <Izaya> what I'd suggest doing is uh
L517[17:01:13] <i develo​p things> Possible. Paragon includes a different sha256 lib :P
L518[17:02:01] <Izaya> upper stage with probe core (and kOS module?) coupled to the station's lower docking port or airlock
L519[17:03:25] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, this lib is more of a general hash/encryption type thing it's not JUST sha256. I'll like chop it up into it's different hash sets and just have them chained...
L520[17:03:49] <i develo​p things> That explains why it’s 3000 lines
L521[17:04:31] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, the old lib (that's completely broken in Lua 5.3 for some reason) was just like 300 lines
L522[17:04:51] <Izaya> Amanda, https://social.shadowkat.net/media/ff2897bc94ee3bc2bf66460f191a6cfcb08c70348173043ec48feda016dacac1.jpg
L523[17:04:53] <Amanda> oh. I've not actually unlocked the dock yet.
L524[17:05:01] <Shuud​oushi> Oof
L525[17:05:04] <Izaya> I had the booster coupled to the airlock on the right
L526[17:05:20] <Izaya> had the kOS module and a probe core so it could do the launch for me
L527[17:06:22] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/acb3ni.webm
L528[17:14:34] <bad at​ vijya> i need to write a password hash library
L529[17:23:36] <Shuud​oushi> As long as it's for Lua 5.2, the sha256 lib from SoS will work fine
L530[17:23:56] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L531[17:24:02] <bad at​ vijya> i only write stuff for lua 5.3
L532[17:24:48] <Shuud​oushi> Then let me know when you got something, i might use it lol
L533[17:25:05] <bad at​ vijya> it's gonna be like bcrypt
L534[17:25:09] <bad at​ vijya> but it uses icekey instead
L535[17:25:14] <Shuud​oushi> Alternatively, you can minify the one I'm working with now
L536[17:25:15] <bad at​ vijya> gonna call it icrypt B)
L537[17:25:26] <Amanda> WEll, that was not good
L538[17:25:27] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L539[17:25:28] <Izaya> I only write stuff for lua 5.4
L540[17:25:31] <Izaya> B)
L541[17:25:43] <Michiyo> You guys are still on 5.x?
L542[17:25:44] <Amanda> No idea what happen, can't see anything in the logs, but it seems my laptop got stuck in an OOM loop
L543[17:25:47] <Michiyo> lame.
L544[17:25:56] <Shuud​oushi> Oof
L545[17:26:13] <Izaya> yeah uh
L546[17:26:18] <Izaya> modpack is rather heavy
L547[17:26:26] <Izaya> I would suggest zram if you're not already using it
L548[17:26:40] <Amanda> maybe I should boot up my gaming compy and stream the game from there instead
L549[17:26:57] <Shuud​oushi> Unless the mod pack has be armory, it's incomplete... Lol
L550[17:27:04] <Izaya> tfw streaming music from my desktop to my laptop
L551[17:27:13] <Izaya> BDA isn't quite updated to 1.11
L552[17:27:24] <Amanda> %choose boot up the gaming compy?
L553[17:27:24] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "boot up the gaming compy?" doesn't really seem like a good idea right now.
L554[17:27:34] <Shuud​oushi> sad psycho noises
L555[17:28:14] <Ariri> Izaya, I'm thinking it's paging bc KSP is going into >6gb territory and Windows 10 doesn't like me using another drive to page on
L556[17:29:46] <Amanda> Izaya: what's zram again? I feel like I have heard of it before,but don't remember where
L557[17:29:58] <Izaya> swap on compressed memory pages
L558[17:30:05] <Amanda> I see
L559[17:30:22] <Izaya> much faster than actual swap, but not as beneficial
L560[17:30:29] <Amanda> oh nice, there's a pretty nixos option for it: https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=unstable&show=zramSwap.enable&from=0&size=30&sort=relevance&query=zram
L561[17:30:45] <Ariri> Also, do we not have contracts or something to complete for additional funds or sci via objs?
L562[17:34:36] * Amanda enables zram with 25% of the total memory
L563[17:36:07] <Amanda> that said, I'm somewhat surprised KSP managed to cause an OOM loop on my 16GB laptop
L564[17:36:44] <Izaya> if I have a browser and/or steam open it's quite easy to do on my desktop
L565[17:37:08] <Izaya> especially if you switch directly between vehicles and/or revert to launch repeatedly
L566[17:38:40] * Michiyo hands Izaya and Amanda a can of RAM stopleak
L567[17:39:56] <bad at​ vijya> my desktop has 32GB of RAM
L568[17:39:58] <bad at​ vijya> B)
L569[17:40:28] <Ar​iri> our desktop
L570[17:40:58] <i develo​p things> So does mine
L571[17:41:08] <Michiyo> And mine has 64.
L572[17:41:42] <Ar​iri> i should download some more to keep up
L573[17:41:54] <Izaya> I'd have 32 if the other two RAM slots on the motherboard worked >.>
L574[17:41:55] <Michiyo> If I ever run low on RAM, I just switch to my server...
L575[17:41:59] <Michiyo> and it's 256GB
L576[17:42:00] <Amanda> My gameing compy's got 32, IIRC
L577[17:42:01] <Michiyo> its*
L578[17:42:28] <Michiyo> I really want to get the other 768GB one day
L579[17:42:36] <i develo​p things> I think it’s is correct here
L580[17:42:37] <Michiyo> gonna run me like just north of a grand though
L581[17:43:00] <Michiyo> IDK man, I never know when to use it's and its
L582[17:43:08] <Michiyo> I feel like I always fuck it up
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L584[17:43:19] <i develo​p things> It’s = it is
L585[17:43:29] <i develo​p things> Its = possessive form of it
L586[17:43:32] <Forec​aster> ets oky Michiyo
L587[17:43:37] <Izaya> it's is either contracting it is or showing posession
L588[17:43:43] <Amanda> Izaya: what research node is kOS under, anyway?
L589[17:43:46] <Izaya> its' is for group posession
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L591[17:44:13] <Izaya> Amanda: control for the 1.25m one, miniaturisation for the later ones
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L593[17:44:39] <i develo​p things> It’s is never possessive iirc
L594[17:44:42] <Wat​tana> can i have some advice about saving data?
L595[17:44:49] <Michiyo> Ok, I need to fix shift-clicking overriding my slot isValid check
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L597[17:44:53] <Ar​iri> Is kOs good for matching orbits and stuff like that for station building?
L598[17:45:02] <Michiyo> and then I think this is basically ready for @"Forecaster" to test
L599[17:45:13] <Izaya> I mean it probably would be
L600[17:45:20] <Izaya> I'm too dumb to write the software to do it though
L601[17:45:42] <bad at​ vijya> i want lua for kOS
L602[17:45:44] <i develo​p things> Yeah. We need to know context though.
L603[17:46:10] <bad at​ vijya> als
L604[17:46:12] <bad at​ vijya> *also
L605[17:46:20] <bad at​ vijya> fuck it, give me the modpack
L606[17:46:22] <Wat​tana> I made a music player that uses my own format but this is how it stores the music data https://tinyurl.com/y6lw4w32
L607[17:46:24] <Amanda> Izaya: what's the parts called? I don't se anything tha sugests kOS to me under minitiuratsion
L608[17:46:31] <Forec​aster> woo
L609[17:46:31] <bad at​ vijya> does it have plane parts?
L610[17:46:38] <Izaya> maybe under precision engineering then?
L611[17:46:39] <Ar​iri> yes
L612[17:46:42] <Izaya> SCS-something usually
L613[17:46:49] <Wat​tana> one table = 1 frame and frame duration is set via bpm
L614[17:46:50] <bad at​ vijya> does it have turboprop engines
L615[17:46:56] <bad at​ vijya> this is VERY IMPORTANT
L616[17:46:58] <Izaya> we have nuclear turbojets
L617[17:46:58] <Wat​tana> but the way it store events is hideous
L618[17:47:01] <Izaya> is that sufficient
L619[17:47:14] <Ar​iri> there’s a turbo shaft engine motor and a prop
L620[17:47:24] <bad at​ vijya> fair enough
L621[17:47:34] <Michiyo> Emphasis on *test* @"Forecaster" :P I'm not 100% sure this does everything you need lol
L622[17:47:36] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: https://minecraft.shadowkat.net/spacerace.ckan
L623[17:47:41] <i develo​p things> @Wattana use `string.{,un}pack` and store it as binary files
L624[17:47:41] <bad at​ vijya> sec
L625[17:47:43] <Ar​iri> i need to make helimachopper to reach desert for scienz
L626[17:47:51] <bad at​ vijya> lemme get ckan installed
L627[17:48:03] <bad at​ vijya> i assume we have something to make rotors go brrr
L628[17:48:10] <bad at​ vijya> err
L629[17:48:18] <Wat​tana> I can do that but the format is as i said hideous
L630[17:48:19] <Ar​iri> there’s actuators and motors
L631[17:48:19] <bad at​ vijya> something to make parts move
L632[17:48:19] <Izaya> Ariri: orbital vessel + trajectories mod
L633[17:48:23] <bad at​ vijya> cool
L634[17:48:30] <bad at​ vijya> i'm making the f-14
L635[17:48:39] <Izaya> I do have something that plans deorbit burns to target specific locations
L636[17:48:42] <Izaya> so there's that
L637[17:48:52] <Ar​iri> Izaya, I tried but I can’t actually seem to find the desert from the orbital map
L638[17:48:57] <Forec​aster> Michiyo you say that as if I'm ready to throw this into production now :P
L639[17:48:58] <Ar​iri> I might be blind
L640[17:49:12] <bad at​ vijya> the cursed swing-wing Tu-28 would be even better
L641[17:49:16] <Izaya> IIRC it's ... two continents west of the KSC
L642[17:49:18] <Michiyo> This was supposed to be a quick thing like 3 months ago..
L643[17:49:23] <Michiyo> >_>
L644[17:49:25] <Forec​aster> I have to re-write most of my code to use this new system instead of the intert "goods" items I have now
L645[17:49:40] <Forec​aster> yes, intert...
L646[17:49:48] <Ar​iri> Will try exploding downwards for science
L647[17:49:49] <Forec​aster> that's what I wanted to write
L648[17:50:08] <Izaya> also
L649[17:50:18] <Izaya> you can modify your descent angle in the trajectories mod
L650[17:50:22] <Forec​aster> Michiyo I am the time thief, I stole the time
L651[17:51:06] <Izaya> and if you keep pointing at the point on the navball during decent you'll end up more or less where it says
L652[17:51:28] <bad at​ vijya> GLOW IN THE DARK X-02S STRIKE WYVERN
L653[17:51:36] <Ar​iri> Retrograde or the marker the mod makes
L654[17:51:42] <Ar​iri> ?
L655[17:51:48] <Izaya> marker the mod makes
L656[17:51:56] <Izaya> with the default descent profile retrograde is the idea
L657[17:52:02] <Forec​aster> sigh
L658[17:52:04] <Ar​iri> I see
L659[17:52:04] <Forec​aster> great
L660[17:52:15] <Forec​aster> oh wait, you can change fonts in the text panels
L661[17:52:20] <Forec​aster> the default is not monowidth
L662[17:52:22] <Amanda> Izaya: wait, the SCS works as a kOS?! I thought it was just the thing that lets you stabalise the controls?
L663[17:52:45] <Ar​iri> I want to make an SSTO Blackbird or something with far future shizzle when I get it
L664[17:52:46] <bad at​ vijya> fucking WHAT https://tinyurl.com/y39vogop
L665[17:52:51] <Izaya> it has an "nn-bit" thing in the name of kOS modules too IIRC
L666[17:53:01] <Michiyo> There are a number of things that aren't finished in this @"Forecaster" I just want you to verify the functionality fits what you need.. lol
L667[17:53:09] <Michiyo> but first.. I need to fix shift-click
L668[17:53:10] <Forec​aster> that's okay
L669[17:53:13] <Michiyo> as it gets crashy
L670[17:53:49] <i develo​p things> that looks like windows 95 but dark mode
L671[17:53:56] <i develo​p things> o.0
L672[17:54:02] <Amanda> ... this could have been so much easier to launch, then!
L673[17:54:35] <Amanda> Izaya: do you mind sharing your auto-launch script? I've not got the faintest idea where to start
L674[17:54:54] <Izaya> I mean I can
L675[17:54:55] <Ar​iri> the ckan thing has a link to the docs
L676[17:54:56] <Izaya> but it's pretty bad
L677[17:55:01] <Michiyo> if not launched && rocket.pointing = up then rocket.launch end
L678[17:55:02] <Michiyo> :P
L679[17:55:33] <Izaya> https://w1r3.net/gGzHyW.txt
L680[17:55:34] <bad at​ vijya> fugg
L681[17:55:39] <bad at​ vijya> i need to get the DLC, don't i?
L682[17:55:39] <Ar​iri> compiles code, rocket fires at Michiyo due to lack of gimballinf
L683[17:56:21] <Izaya> tl;dr: burn straight up until ap = 20km, then turn way too hard until ap = 80km, then coast to edge of atmosphere, queue circularisation burn, and execute
L684[17:56:48] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: not really
L685[17:56:55] <Izaya> none of the mods actually require it IIRC
L686[17:57:01] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y38t8o6m
L687[17:57:27] <Ar​iri> I might make a program for geostat orbits, based off the ideal flight path (70deg at 140m/s or something like that, etc)
L688[17:57:41] <Izaya> recommended
L689[17:59:32] <Amanda> Izaya: does this handle stages? My rockets have boosters for the first leg
L690[17:59:45] <Ar​iri> I think so
L691[17:59:58] <Izaya> nominally yes
L692[18:00:05] <Izaya> it doesn't deal with overlapping stages though
L693[18:00:17] <Ar​iri> Does recovering first stage actually yield a worthwhile benefit? I’ve been putting parachutes on them but i’m not sure if they’re coming back
L694[18:01:23] <Michiyo> Oh... I need to fix A component of type 'com.pclogix.opencargo.common.tileentity.TagWriterTileEntity' threw an error while being disconnected from the component network. too
L695[18:02:59] <Izaya> Ariri: SRBs are pretty cheap
L696[18:03:09] <Izaya> but if you're using big LF engines it can make a decent difference
L697[18:03:27] <Izaya> I find I end up over-specifying my first stage and have one big fuel tank to orbit
L698[18:03:31] <Izaya> with change to get home
L699[18:04:45] <bad at​ vijya> i'm gonna make a plane that launches a rocket
L700[18:04:48] <Michiyo> Error while building FML annotations cache: duplicate entry: assets/opencargo/blockstates/tagreaderblock.json
L701[18:04:48] <Michiyo> java.util.zip.ZipException: duplicate entry: assets/opencargo/blockstates/tagreaderblock.json
L702[18:04:50] <Michiyo> aaaaaaaaaa
L703[18:04:51] <Michiyo> fuck you
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L705[18:07:21] <Ar​iri> Hmm... I wonder how doable an automatic missile launching sat would be
L706[18:09:46] <dequbed> Very
L707[18:09:51] <bad at​ vijya> Michiyo: you know what they say FML stands for
L708[18:10:00] <bad at​ vijya> : ^ )
L709[18:10:46] <Michiyo> Forge (is an) aMazing Loader? :p
L710[18:11:38] <bad at​ vijya> fuck
L711[18:11:39] <bad at​ vijya> my
L712[18:11:40] <bad at​ vijya> life
L713[18:11:46] <Michiyo> Yes...
L714[18:11:48] <Michiyo> I'm aware.
L715[18:12:11] <bad at​ vijya> that's also just in general
L716[18:12:14] <bad at​ vijya> how i feel rn
L717[18:12:30] <Michiyo> so.. Idea requires me to have
L718[18:12:30] <Michiyo> main { output.resourcesDir = output.classesDir }
L719[18:12:41] <Michiyo> in my build script for it to load resources..
L720[18:13:01] <Michiyo> but when I try to build with that in place I get the above error
L721[18:13:11] <Michiyo> if I remove it it builds fine, but then idea can't load resources
L722[18:13:37] <Forec​aster> sigh https://tinyurl.com/y4rpxp7c
L723[18:14:27] <Izaya> isn't microsoft java fun
L724[18:14:59] <Forec​aster> 1. Why does every class in SE start with "My", and 2. What the heck is a "MyFixedPoint"
L725[18:15:13] <Forec​aster> oh
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L727[18:15:19] <Forec​aster> `Fixed point number represented as 64-bit integer with 6 decimal places (one millionts)`
L728[18:15:30] <Izaya> convention
L729[18:16:23] <Forec​aster> well that didn't work https://tinyurl.com/y3mbp4t6
L730[18:16:26] <Forec​aster> :|
L731[18:16:52] <Forec​aster> oh, so it's basically a long
L732[18:17:12] <Kristo​pher38> are you using MDK?
L733[18:17:38] <Forec​aster> what's that?
L734[18:17:50] <Kristo​pher38> https://github.com/malware-dev/MDK-SE
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L736[18:17:59] <Forec​aster> yes
L737[18:18:10] <Forec​aster> the official docs were... not useful
L738[18:18:23] <Kristo​pher38> huh, shouldn't that catch the compilation error early?
L739[18:18:49] <Forec​aster> oh, I'm just using the wiki as a reference and writing code in np++
L740[18:19:19] <ThePi​Guy24> michealsoft disapproves
L741[18:19:40] <Forec​aster> hmms
L742[18:19:45] <Forec​aster> "attempt to divide by 0"...
L743[18:19:47] <Izaya> visual studio is non-optional for writing C#
L744[18:20:02] <Forec​aster> clearly it's not :P
L745[18:20:08] <Izaya> that's what I said
L746[18:20:17] <Izaya> but then I went insane
L747[18:20:29] <Izaya> proceed at your own risk
L748[18:28:16] <Michiyo> So... fucking awesome. with the "fix" above in place I can't build the mod. with the "official fix" in place I can build the mod, but Idea doesn't load my mod classes in debug
L749[18:28:40] <Michiyo> and since 1.12 isn't supported anymore it's not like I can go poke anyone @ forge who might know.
L750[18:30:00] <bad at​ vijya> "what? you're making a mod for an older version of minecraft that people still make tons of mods for? what are you doing, just update to a newer version smh"
L751[18:30:50] <Izaya> "yeah maybe I'll switch to fabric :)"
L752[18:30:53] <Michiyo> Yeah... I totally get not supporting super old versions, but 1.12 is still AFAIK the most used version.
L753[18:31:42] <bad at​ vijya> yeah
L754[18:31:58] <bad at​ vijya> 1.7.10 is still pretty fuckin active last i checked
L755[18:32:17] <bad at​ vijya> https://howoldisminecraft1710.today/ :(
L756[18:33:48] <Forec​aster> bah https://tinyurl.com/y4zvrs4k
L757[18:33:56] <Forec​aster> pretty sure that shouldn't be 0%
L758[18:33:56] <Izaya> 1.7.10 was last year wasn't it
L759[18:34:01] <Amanda> let's see, now that I learned enough about kos to get this launched, let's see if Izaya's script will work unmodified
L760[18:34:04] <Izaya> last major update
L761[18:34:12] <bad at​ vijya> god
L762[18:34:18] <bad at​ vijya> it's not allowed to be 6 years old
L763[18:34:49] <bad at​ vijya> i'm not allowed to realize that i've been playing block game on and off for like a third of my life
L764[18:35:20] <ThePi​Guy24> ive been playing it for nearly half :p
L765[18:35:20] <Ariri> >6.7GB ram usage
L766[18:35:29] <Ariri> Maybe shaders aren't a good idea for me
L767[18:35:31] <bad at​ vijya> i mean when i first played was like
L768[18:35:33] <Amanda> lookslike I should add some more reaction wheels, judging from how much these are rocking back and forth
L769[18:35:33] <bad at​ vijya> beta
L770[18:35:36] <bad at​ vijya> :(
L771[18:37:08] <Izaya> Amanda: I highly recommend fins at the bottom and a reaction wheel in the service bay with the kOS module and probe core
L772[18:37:32] <Amanda> What are service bays for?
L773[18:37:39] <Amanda> Those are newer than I lastplayed. <.<;
L774[18:37:45] <Izaya> protecting delicate things, and reducing drag
L775[18:38:13] <Michiyo> my current room mate (We lived 3k miles apart at time time) had been bugging me FOREVER to play MC and I kept passing on it. One day I said eff it, pirated it and started goofing around with Redstone. I bought the game 3 days later. that was 3 days of building (at the time to my mind) insane redstone contraptions lol
L776[18:38:24] <Michiyo> would have been RIGHT about the launch of 1.0
L777[18:41:12] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L778[18:45:02] <Izaya> I bought in around 1.7 or 1.8
L779[18:45:05] <Izaya> beta
L780[18:45:16] <Izaya> but I'd been playing pirated a while
L781[18:46:51] <Amanda> ... I'man idiot
L782[18:47:08] <Amanda> who'd have thought, using service bays to reduce drag does wonders for fuel efficency
L783[18:50:26] <Izaya> shocking, eh
L784[18:50:30] <Michiyo> Build path contains duplicate entry: 'src/main/java' for project 'OpenCargo'
L785[18:50:32] <Michiyo> GOD DAMN IT
L786[18:50:35] <Michiyo> %flip
L787[18:50:35] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L788[18:50:37] <Izaya> fairings also
L789[18:51:42] <Amanda> someone more competent in pilotiing could probably use the ship I built to get into orbit to got o the mun
L790[18:52:02] <Izaya> also
L791[18:52:15] <Izaya> service bays are more rigid for putting a probe core in your 1.25m stack
L792[18:52:46] <ben_mkiv> when i started modding there was this mod "OpenSecurity" and i thought to myself "nice, lets break it"
L793[18:53:00] <Izaya> OpenInSecurity
L794[18:53:18] <ben_mkiv> jk, was rather "dang would it be nice if this stuff works"
L795[18:53:23] <Michiyo> :(
L796[18:53:57] <ben_mkiv> nah, it was openglasses
L797[18:54:16] <ben_mkiv> i wanted to render item icons iirc
L798[18:55:03] <bad at​ vijya> i need to redesign the CI-101A to work with this modpack
L799[18:55:28] <bad at​ vijya> also so it can function as an SSTO
L800[18:55:47] <Amanda> dayum. kOS launched the ship into orbit with only a tiny bit more fuel left than my own manual launch did. Granted, It's at a different inclination(?)
L801[18:56:07] <bad at​ vijya> my main problem with the CI-101A is that it's thrust is off-center lmao
L802[18:56:43] <bad at​ vijya> which is fine in atmosphere but is catastrophic for space lmao
L803[18:57:08] <bad at​ vijya> might just make an entire new SSTO
L804[18:58:06] <Michiyo> @Forecaster building the first test jar
L805[18:58:15] <Forec​aster> ohno
L806[18:58:29] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/Kn9YMi2mjaKnyck
L807[18:58:52] <Michiyo> Nothing is final :P
L808[18:59:11] <Michiyo> No recipes right now either <_<
L809[18:59:14] <Michiyo> forgot about those.
L810[18:59:24] <Forec​aster> I would remove those anyway :P
L811[18:59:54] <Forec​aster> if you could add a config option to just disable all recipes that'd be great
L812[19:00:00] <Michiyo> actually that's a lie.. you can craft tags with.... a full table of tagwriter blocks lmao
L813[19:00:18] <Michiyo> wait no that was backwards
L814[19:00:27] <Michiyo> you can craft the writer with a table full of tags...
L815[19:00:43] <Michiyo> and tags with diamonds and dye.
L816[19:01:12] <Michiyo> These were just the tutorial recipes with my items swapped in.
L817[19:02:24] <Forec​aster> I don't even remember which instance I was using for this
L818[19:02:30] <Michiyo> Ok, so it looks like it's fairly easy to remove a recipe, but now I have to make a config
L819[19:02:31] <Michiyo> q_q
L820[19:02:53] <Forec​aster> Failed to start Minecraft:
L821[19:02:53] <Forec​aster> java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
L822[19:02:58] <Forec​aster> probably not that instance...
L823[19:03:04] <Michiyo> lol
L824[19:03:43] <Forec​aster> oh, I might not have installed Java since the system reinstall
L825[19:04:43] <Forec​aster> "Java test succeeded!" okay maybe I have
L826[19:04:50] <Forec​aster> why is every instance doing this then...
L827[19:06:29] <Forec​aster> oh, java 15, minecraft no like
L828[19:06:36] <Michiyo> oof
L829[19:06:42] <Michiyo> java 1.4 please
L830[19:06:43] <Michiyo> :P
L831[19:07:11] <Forec​aster> now to get and install a java 8 RE and point MultiMC at it
L832[19:08:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @Shuudoushi https://github.com/philanc/plc/blob/master/plc/sha2.lua
L833[19:08:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Might be worth looking at.
L834[19:08:31] <Brisingr​Aerowing> There's an SHA3 version in the same repo.
L835[19:08:58] <Forec​aster> `This site is experiencing technical difficulty. We are aware of the issue and are working as quick as possible to correct the issue.`
L836[19:09:02] <Forec​aster> sigh, thanks Oracle
L837[19:09:32] <Michiyo> They want you to signup for an account to downloader older java versions anyway
L838[19:09:36] <Michiyo> fuckin stupid.
L839[19:09:40] <Michiyo> Windows @"Forecaster"?
L840[19:09:52] <Forec​aster> I already had an account, but it doesn't work anyway
L841[19:10:00] <Forec​aster> getting it from Java.com instead
L842[19:10:04] <Michiyo> I can upload my j8 271 jdk
L843[19:10:05] <Michiyo> if you'd like
L844[19:10:06] <bad at​ vijya> does openjdk work in windows i wonder
L845[19:10:10] <Michiyo> It does
L846[19:10:16] <Michiyo> but the JDK is useless :P
L847[19:10:23] <bad at​ vijya> o hg
L848[19:10:25] <bad at​ vijya> *oh
L849[19:10:43] <Michiyo> and by useless I mean it doesn't have half the stuff I need
L850[19:10:46] <Izaya> for running minecraft openjdk works well on windows
L851[19:10:50] <Michiyo> yes
L852[19:11:01] <Forec​aster> "Installing Java"
L853[19:11:02] <Forec​aster> woop
L854[19:11:03] <Izaya> no oracle involvement necessary
L855[19:11:13] <Michiyo> Some of my mods use stuff missing from OJDK
L856[19:11:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I use AdoptOpenJDK.
L857[19:11:23] <Michiyo> OpenFM mainly
L858[19:11:33] <Brisingr​Aerowing> What's missing there?
L859[19:11:42] <Michiyo> and Corded.
L860[19:11:46] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Just curious.
L861[19:11:55] <Forec​aster> the MakeThingsWork classes
L862[19:11:59] <Forec​aster> they're very important
L863[19:12:02] <Michiyo> I don't recall ATM, I just know I've tried OJDK for development on those projects and it fails
L864[19:12:07] <Michiyo> works fine with Oracle
L865[19:12:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Hm.
L866[19:12:47] <Michiyo> I have to have oracle jdk installed on my CI server for the same reason
L867[19:14:10] <Forec​aster> okay, launching now (hopefully)
L868[19:14:25] <Forec​aster> yeah, now it's actually loading stuff
L869[19:14:37] <Amanda> Izaya: if I wanted to have an inclination other than along the equator, I'd change the first 90 in that "heading" on line 2 right?
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L871[19:15:39] <Forec​aster> ah yes, this instance has the "TycoonItems" mod, that'll be it
L872[19:16:08] <Izaya> yeah
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L874[19:16:15] <Izaya> inclination,angle from horizon
L875[19:16:47] <Amanda> I wonder if that could be made into an argument for the script
L876[19:16:59] <Izaya> probably
L877[19:17:12] <Izaya> for a 90° orbit you may need to go a little harder in one direction though
L878[19:17:18] <Izaya> to account for the rotation of the atmosphere
L879[19:17:57] <Amanda> I was planning on going to 45, since IIRC that's good enough to map most of the world
L880[19:19:39] <Forec​aster> okay, launch successful, now launching with new mod
L881[19:21:44] <Amanda> let's see how this goes.
L882[19:27:27] <Forec​aster> okay, the world is not in this one... hrm
L883[19:28:36] <Michiyo> Ugh.. I have to implement a whole damn system for conditional recipes
L884[19:28:46] * Michiyo considers not having recipes
L885[19:29:27] <Michiyo> Unless you need them for something.. I'm just removing them. I don't think I'll be releasing this mod publicly
L886[19:30:15] <Forec​aster> I don't need recipes, like I said I need the opposite of that
L887[19:30:23] <Forec​aster> players can't craft these items
L888[19:30:36] <Forec​aster> if they can get empty ones they could counterfeit cargo
L889[19:32:45] <Michiyo> ok, recipes are gone
L890[19:32:47] <Amanda> Izaya: nice! All you need is `parameter inclination.` at the beginning, then `run autolaunch(40).` to launch at 40 inclination (once replacing the requestent constants, that is)
L891[19:34:28] <Amanda> Izaya: doc source: https://ksp-kos.github.io/KOS/commands/runprogram.html#arguments
L892[19:38:05] <Forec​aster> ah, here we go, found the right instance
L893[19:40:04] <Forec​aster> Michiyo I notice there's no creative tab :P
L894[19:41:00] <Forec​aster> or uh, maybe I forgot to add the mod to this instance...
L895[19:41:02] <Forec​aster> woops
L896[19:44:57] <Michiyo> lmao
L897[19:45:03] <Michiyo> I was about to say, there should be :P
L898[19:53:15] <Forec​aster> how does the coloring work?
L899[19:53:46] <Forec​aster> if I used a custom item sprite via resource pack, is the color applied to that as well?
L900[19:55:08] <Michiyo> there are 2 textures for tags
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L902[19:55:29] <Michiyo> itemtag and itemtag_color the _color texture item is a mask for the itemtag
L903[19:55:42] <Michiyo> anything that is white in the mask gets colored in the item
L904[19:56:02] <Forec​aster> also, interesting but unimportant bug: no tooltips in the block guis
L905[19:56:04] <Forec​aster> neat
L906[19:56:23] <Michiyo> Yeah... not sure why those are missing. I also have to add the GUI names to the GUIs
L907[19:56:42] <Forec​aster> actually I do need a recipe for the reader
L908[19:56:50] <Forec​aster> I want players to be able to use that
L909[19:56:50] <Michiyo> damn it.
L910[19:56:50] <Michiyo> lol
L911[19:56:56] <Michiyo> I just nuked 'em!
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L913[19:57:04] <Michiyo> anyway, I've gotta make a work call
L914[19:57:05] <Michiyo> AFK
L915[19:58:31] <Forec​aster> why does it add quotes to the data
L916[19:59:37] <Michiyo> Hmm
L917[19:59:40] <Michiyo> Good question
L918[19:59:47] <Michiyo> I'm assuming, because.
L919[19:59:49] <Michiyo> :D
L920[19:59:57] <Michiyo> Or should I say... "because"
L921[19:59:58] <Michiyo> lol...
L922[20:00:06] <Forec​aster> < - <
L923[20:00:20] <Forec​aster> well it's not a huge deal, but it's still weird
L924[20:00:56] <Michiyo> I'll see if I can figure it out
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L926[20:01:43] <Vaur> test ?
L927[20:01:51] <Va​ur> perfect
L928[20:03:29] <Forec​aster> test failed! Your punishment is 10 laps around the continent!
L929[20:05:10] <Forec​aster> well, this seems pretty great
L930[20:06:08] <Forec​aster> I can simplify the outputs, since the writer can decide how many items get output
L931[20:06:39] <Forec​aster> although, hm, the transposer does let me know when the output is full actually
L932[20:07:14] <Va​ur> @Forecaster it didn't fail though ... it succeeded ❓
L933[20:07:53] <Forec​aster> you failed to use the secret test phrase, so it did not succeed
L934[20:08:07] <Va​ur> there is a secret test phrase ?
L935[20:08:17] <Forec​aster> of course
L936[20:09:01] <ThePi​Guy24> its [REDACTED]
L937[20:09:41] <Va​ur> [REDACTED]
L938[20:09:54] <ThePi​Guy24> no you failed again
L939[20:10:02] <Va​ur> no I didn't
L940[20:10:37] <Michiyo> @Forecaster I *THINK* I handled all the cases with crafting multiple tags at once
L941[20:10:49] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://tenor.com/view/redacted-gif-19988977
L942[20:10:51] <Michiyo> So let me know if you find any issues there
L943[20:11:08] <Forec​aster> Michiyo yeah that seems to work fine
L944[20:11:36] <Forec​aster> I'm just going to create a little resource pack and then start updating my hardware and software
L945[20:11:49] <Michiyo> I mean.. I can use whatever textures you want IN the mod
L946[20:11:49] <Michiyo> lol
L947[20:11:54] <Michiyo> I just used what I had on hand
L948[20:12:27] <Michiyo> the block sides are from open sec. the fronts are from the tutorial mod with the reader just a recolor of the writer
L949[20:12:40] <Michiyo> and the tags are ALSO from the tutorial mod, with the mask for coloring
L950[20:12:51] <Forec​aster> That works, I have a crate texture I made
L951[20:13:02] <Forec​aster> I just have to make a mask for it
L952[20:13:35] <Michiyo> This is AFTER ALL *your* mod. I'll add a recipe for the reader. What would you like it to be?
L953[20:18:24] <i develo​p things> time to try to write a FORTH dialect that fits into an EEPROM :^)
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L955[20:20:42] <Ariri> Izaya: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/t2jzsGod3oGzbiA
L956[20:21:10] <Ariri> Me and some buddies got sidetracked practicing for the race, so we climbed Deciat tower instead
L957[20:24:53] <Michiyo> @Forecaster 36 diamonds it is!
L958[20:25:14] <Vexatos> diamond anvil :o
L959[20:25:28] <Vexatos> so the joke is the research I am currently doing involves diamond anvils
L960[20:25:42] <Vexatos> would be funny if it looked like a big anvil, heh
L961[20:27:09] <Forec​aster> I was getting dinner :P
L962[20:27:28] <Forec​aster> and now I'm going to eat the dinner
L963[20:27:55] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It's a couple hours before dinner for me.
L964[20:28:09] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I have some leftover pizza I plan on devouring.
L965[20:28:20] <Forec​aster> it's 9:30 pm here
L966[20:28:34] <Brisingr​Aerowing> 3:30 pm here.
L967[20:28:46] <Brisingr​Aerowing> So you're 6 hours ahead of me.
L968[20:28:55] <Michiyo> it's 12:30
L969[20:28:58] <Michiyo> PM
L970[20:29:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> And you are smack dab in the middle.
L971[20:29:58] <Ariri> Why am I hungry at 12:30 PM
L972[20:30:25] <Michiyo> @Forecaster https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/x3NWXPE8H9ibsjH there ya go :P
L973[20:31:26] <Vexatos> needs more colon and less underscore
L974[20:31:42] <Michiyo> Vexatos, incorrect.
L975[20:31:46] <Vexatos> wot
L976[20:31:51] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L977[20:31:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 4 hours, 37 minutes and 44 seconds this time. 3 hours, 35 minutes and 51 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 1 minute and 53 seconds!
L978[20:31:55] <Forec​aster> honestly that's probably fine
L979[20:32:00] <Michiyo> "name": "opencomputers_chip2",
L980[20:32:00] <Michiyo> "ingredient": {
L981[20:32:00] <Michiyo> "item": "opencomputers:material", "data": 8
L982[20:32:00] <Michiyo> }
L983[20:32:04] <Michiyo> _constants.json
L984[20:32:06] <Vexatos> smh
L985[20:32:14] <Michiyo> stolen from OpenSec lmao
L986[20:32:19] <Vexatos> illegal
L987[20:33:07] <Michiyo> :P
L988[20:33:29] <Forec​aster> cost isn't super important, so that recipe is fine
L989[20:35:01] <Forec​aster> hm, I wonder
L990[20:35:15] <Forec​aster> when you disassemble a tablet can you get the case back
L991[20:35:54] <Forec​aster> and if so, if you disassemble a creative tablet, do you get the creative case back
L992[20:36:14] <Vexatos> disassembler blacklist exists
L993[20:36:33] <Vexatos> don't remember how to access it :⁾
L994[20:36:53] <Forec​aster> probably dark magic
L995[20:37:49] <Vexatos> misc.disassemblerInputBlacklist in the config
L996[20:38:52] <Vexatos> I think if it's in there the disassembler will just not output it ever
L997[20:39:30] <Vexatos> oh I see
L998[20:40:02] <Vexatos> I think if you blacklist an item it would produce that item, the disassembly will just not work
L999[20:41:28] <Vexatos> not sure how precise you can get with the definition
L1000[20:41:34] <Forec​aster> okay, dinner done, texture time
L1001[20:43:20] <Michiyo> damn it.. watching direwolf20's let's play... I really want create for 1.12
L1002[20:43:21] <Michiyo> lol
L1003[20:43:36] <Michiyo> cause I want create and OC..
L1004[20:44:40] <Shuud​oushi> Just got a phone call from Verizon. They are very unhappy that I've managed to use over 3tb of data already this year XD
L1005[20:44:54] <i develo​p things> ...how
L1006[20:45:08] <i develo​p things> 3tb of data in two weeks??
L1007[20:45:15] <Shuud​oushi> If they didn't want me to use so much data, they shouldn't have called it unlimited lol
L1008[20:45:17] <Michiyo> WAT
L1009[20:45:17] <i develo​p things> or is this your home internet
L1010[20:46:00] <Shuud​oushi> @i develop things billing year, so it's actually closer to like 4 months. And kinda? I just hotspot my phone to everything lol
L1011[20:46:07] <i develo​p things> ah
L1012[20:46:19] <ben_mkiv> that's just 0.5mb/sec if i didnt mess up my math
L1013[20:46:49] <ben_mkiv> oh, then its even less
L1014[20:46:53] <Izaya> https://cybre.ams3.digitaloceanspaces.com/media_attachments/files/010/741/653/original/f186938b189d51da.jpg
L1015[20:47:49] <Shuud​oushi> @ben_mkiv Verizon seems to expect you to use like maybe 300gb in this time period
L1016[20:47:58] <Forec​aster> Michiyo: https://tinyurl.com/y5h7krqu
L1017[20:47:58] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yx9thrzx
L1018[20:48:39] <Amanda> Well, the BR5 (Science) Is too expensive to launch. :D
L1019[20:48:51] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L1020[20:49:02] <Amanda> maybe I shouldn't have spent all my money on upgrading buildings
L1021[20:49:06] <Forec​aster> Needs more explosions
L1022[20:49:27] <ben_mkiv> my router tells me that i downloaded 22gb today, which i don't think is true
L1023[20:49:27] <ben_mkiv> wth
L1024[20:49:56] <Izaya> I don't trust the stats my switch tells me
L1025[20:51:10] <ben_mkiv> i have usually twitch running on the 2nd screen, but is that really that much data within ~12 hours oO
L1026[20:51:13] <Michiyo> @Forecaster done https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/NgpBB6SEkmRWyjy
L1027[20:51:56] <Izaya> guess I should re-read The Soul of a New Machine
L1028[20:52:00] <Forec​aster> I have these too if you want them :P https://tinyurl.com/y3ff844j
L1029[20:52:08] <Shuud​oushi> @ben_mkiv twitch sends three streams at once to your device, so likely
L1030[20:52:25] <Forec​aster> hm, maybe the mask should be two pixels thick
L1031[20:52:59] <ben_mkiv> they do what? i cant believe they do that
L1032[20:54:04] <Shuud​oushi> 720p, 1080p, and native
L1033[20:54:04] <Michiyo> @Forecaster not sure what I'd use 'em for unless you need the mod to use 'em
L1034[20:54:33] <ben_mkiv> well i doubt that they send it all at once, if you change resolution clientside it'll request another stream
L1035[20:54:48] <Forec​aster> I meant to add as texture options/tag copies with different textures in the mod
L1036[20:54:58] <ben_mkiv> but thats hella more than i thought it would use
L1037[20:55:17] <Izaya> streaming is hard
L1038[20:55:26] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y52mmzm9
L1039[20:55:50] <Forec​aster> more pixels!
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L1042[20:58:02] <Shuud​oushi> No, they send 'em at the same time, unless something has changed recently. It's how they get around buffering when you change res
L1043[21:01:20] <Amanda> .... fuck
L1044[21:02:54] <Izaya> Shuu: that's exceedingly cursed, damn
L1045[21:03:09] <ben_mkiv> no they must have changed that
L1046[21:03:19] <ben_mkiv> i can see how the packetsize is way smaller on lower resolution
L1047[21:03:56] <ben_mkiv> like 175kb/sec for 480p, while it's 270kb/sec for 1080p
L1048[21:04:03] <Forec​aster> Michiyo do you know if the mask can have alpha values?
L1049[21:04:28] <ben_mkiv> but they send short bursts instead of a continues stream
L1050[21:04:43] <ben_mkiv> like packets of 2secs of video data
L1051[21:04:53] <ben_mkiv> thats probably why you dont notice the buffering much
L1052[21:05:08] <ben_mkiv> as in the worst case it takes 2 seconds to request another resolution
L1053[21:05:55] <Shuud​oushi> Huh, twitch finally not being assholes to people with bandwidth limits
L1054[21:06:09] <ben_mkiv> but well, 270kb/sec is still ~1gb/hour
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L1056[21:12:30] <Forec​aster> Michiyo here's all of the textures with masks https://tinyurl.com/y5w2vvq5
L1057[21:12:52] <Forec​aster> long_2's mask has a 50% alpha, I have no idea if that works the way I want it to or not
L1058[21:20:02] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y6kfq42r
L1059[21:24:17] <ThePi​Guy24> suspensiones
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L1063[21:27:51] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y3k6aow5
L1064[21:27:53] <bad at​ vijya> fuck repair shops
L1065[21:30:20] <bauen1> how do you manage to crack that thing ._.
L1066[21:30:51] <bad at​ vijya> last repair shop my car went to overtorqued brake caliper pins
L1067[21:31:20] <bad at​ vijya> i didn't own the car at time time ofc
L1068[21:43:51] <dequbed> Icon for Hire released an acoustic album? o.O
L1069[21:53:57] <Michiyo> @Forecaster what am I doing with these?
L1070[21:54:28] <Forec​aster> you could add identical tag items but with the different textures :>
L1071[21:54:45] <Forec​aster> or have one tag item that can change texture
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L1073[21:55:53] <Michiyo> The latter means making an item renderer
L1074[21:55:54] <Michiyo> q_q
L1075[21:59:42] <Izaya> so uh
L1076[21:59:46] <Izaya> ARK, right
L1077[22:00:05] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/iHg449i.png
L1078[22:02:15] <ThePiGuy24> unreel engone
L1079[22:10:29] <dequbed> Izaya / Amanda: Hi https://paranoidlabs.org/xmpp/files/60ec897e466daa051904a3b49dd12b02d5aa91a4/6ID93aAJAlxYWEkXvrDyCJn5WhokkGPIJ1emqb3C/Hi.png
L1080[22:10:57] <Izaya> \o/
L1081[22:11:18] <dequbed> Time to beat is Day 5 3:10 ;)
L1082[22:11:27] <Izaya> I'd suggest planting a flag, but apparently they're bugged
L1083[22:11:33] <dequbed> I already did
L1084[22:11:41] <dequbed> It's now sliding down the hill
L1085[22:11:44] <Izaya> :D
L1086[22:12:02] <dequbed> Nevermind it started floating
L1087[22:12:40] <Izaya> The moon by day 5, eh?
L1088[22:12:54] <Izaya> Alright, that's my goal tomorrow.
L1089[22:13:18] <dequbed> Flyby on launch 3 on day two something
L1090[22:13:50] <dequbed> Anyway I'll go get the Minmus mission going then, this is a race after all.
L1091[22:14:08] <dequbed> Izaya: Do we count visited biomes? Because this one has enough dV for all of them ;)
L1092[22:14:24] <Izaya> I wasn't going to, because that doesn't sound fun
L1093[22:14:28] <Izaya> but I'm not going to stop you
L1094[22:14:34] <Izaya> and I'll write it down, too
L1095[22:14:40] <dequbed> Hey I want that sweet sweet science.
L1096[22:15:03] <dequbed> After all what better goal for the race overall than finishing the tech tree? ;)
L1097[22:15:25] <Izaya> it is a good way to use the dead time waiting for things, I suppose.
L1098[22:21:22] <Ariri> Is there a good way to prevent my side engines from crashing into the main one
L1099[22:21:39] <Izaya> Point the top outwards slightly so the drag pulls them away
L1100[22:22:35] <Ariri> Like this, or more? https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/TfqjkBjHpemwoB2
L1101[22:23:17] <Izaya> I do one fine adjustment and it works fine
L1102[22:24:38] <Amanda> deorbiting my first SCANsat now, since it's "easily"replacable. Newer modles are needed though, the power's not lasting on the dark side,andI forgothow capacitors work.
L1103[22:25:21] <Amanda> also I should probably make newer models actually recoverable, instead of smashing them into the planet.
L1104[22:29:15] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya trade ya, I'm finishing up intake manifold gaskets :D https://tinyurl.com/y68p37lu
L1105[22:29:58] <Shuud​oushi> Also... Why the fuck are you wearing welding gloves to work on a car...
L1106[22:30:03] <Ariri> Izaya, Amanda: Rocket needs more deltaV and a staging fix, but this kOS thing is pretty nifty https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/ri5iLJ7rWs9berQ
L1107[22:30:44] <Izaya> did you watch the video I posted earlier with the whole thing
L1108[22:31:00] <Izaya> fully automated launch/deorbit/landing?
L1109[22:31:03] <Ariri> No, I didn't see it
L1110[22:31:24] <Amanda> I didn't see that either, link again?
L1111[22:32:13] <Amanda> goodbye SCANsat 1 -- about to crash into a mountian
L1112[22:32:35] <Izaya> did I post it or am I just insane? >.>
L1113[22:32:47] <dequbed> Yes
L1114[22:33:03] <Amanda> I've been mostly focusing on the game, so I may have missed it
L1115[22:33:10] <Ariri> ^
L1116[22:33:24] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/acb3ni.webm
L1117[22:34:19] <Izaya> Amanda: also has my station design in it
L1118[22:34:24] <Izaya> will probably reuse
L1119[22:35:02] <dequbed> I already complained about it but gravity turn!
L1120[22:35:14] <Izaya> you give me code to do that and I'll do that
L1121[22:35:37] <dequbed> Gravity turns don't need code <.<
L1122[22:35:45] <Izaya> yes they do
L1123[22:35:50] <Izaya> I don't touch the rocket once it's on the launchpad
L1124[22:36:12] <bad at​ vijya> @Shuudoushi yes
L1125[22:36:23] <bad at​ vijya> also my entire car is rusted out
L1126[22:36:25] <Ariri> I did a basic gravity turn to KSP's tutorial thing
L1127[22:36:32] <Ariri> 10deg per 100m/s
L1128[22:36:43] <bad at​ vijya> and i have to do a rering soonish
L1129[22:36:43] <dequbed> Izaya: I turn my rockets to 2-10 degree at launch and then don't touch the rocket until it's in orbit. SAS disabled.
L1130[22:36:55] <Shuud​oushi> Am I the only one that just yeets shit into space in KSP or something?
L1131[22:36:59] <Izaya> if I do that they flip out
L1132[22:37:04] <bad at​ vijya> valve timing adjustment very soon, along with valve cover gasket
L1133[22:37:12] <dequbed> Izaya: Then you need to design them better <.<
L1134[22:37:21] <dequbed> What kind of crazy TWR is that anyway?
L1135[22:37:22] * Izaya cries in carb adjustment
L1136[22:37:29] <bad at​ vijya> ha
L1137[22:37:34] <Izaya> the obnoxious variety
L1138[22:37:41] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L1139[22:37:41] <bad at​ vijya> cries in vtec
L1140[22:37:59] <Shuud​oushi> Laughs in EFI
L1141[22:38:13] <Izaya> imagine having literally any digital electronics in your vehicle
L1142[22:38:29] <dequbed> Izaya: For reference my mun/minmus lander has a TWR of 1.8 at launch and 0.38 in the second stage
L1143[22:38:31] <bad at​ vijya> imagine not getting over 30mpg
L1144[22:38:34] <Izaya> dequbed: if I launched it again I'd probably stage the LF engines and SRBs separately
L1145[22:39:08] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: excuse me while I smug over here with 5L/100km
L1146[22:39:17] <Shuud​oushi> My little death trap https://tinyurl.com/y2n2buo8
L1147[22:39:24] <Izaya> 47 mpg
L1148[22:39:29] <bad at​ vijya> convert to smoothbrain uni--oh
L1149[22:39:32] <bad at​ vijya> fuck
L1150[22:39:38] <Shuud​oushi> I get like, 15mpg...
L1151[22:39:45] <Izaya> protip
L1152[22:39:48] <Izaya> reduce vehicle weight
L1153[22:39:52] <bad at​ vijya> my deathtrap has HE-FRAG warheads as airbags
L1154[22:39:55] <Izaya> 140kg should be good
L1155[22:40:02] <dequbed> Imagine having a vehicle that's drinking gas like it's an alcoholic at an vodka wholesale.\
L1156[22:40:38] <Izaya> y'know what sucks?
L1157[22:40:41] <Shuud​oushi> *laughs in 105mm* https://tinyurl.com/yxe22kwu
L1158[22:40:43] <Izaya> all the bikes I want to upgrade to?
L1159[22:40:52] <Izaya> they all have 4 carbs
L1160[22:41:00] <bad at​ vijya> holy fuck
L1161[22:41:25] <bad at​ vijya> @Shuudoushi i forgot you would have a pic of one
L1162[22:41:50] <Izaya> as if tuning two/paying to get two tuned wasn't bad enough
L1163[22:41:58] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, we'll pretend that I didn't literally take that
L1164[22:42:09] <Shuud​oushi> Just take that*
L1165[22:42:17] <bad at​ vijya> kek
L1166[22:42:46] <bad at​ vijya> my cute honda has problems
L1167[22:42:49] <bad at​ vijya> thus
L1168[22:42:55] <Izaya> you can't tell me this thing isn't exceedingly pretty though http://moto.zombdrive.com/images1280_/kawasaki-zephyr-550-reduced-effect-6.jpg
L1169[22:43:09] <bad at​ vijya> i will swap engine and transmission into an odyssey for the emem
L1170[22:43:14] <Izaya> even if it has worse suspension and is significantly heavier than my ZZR
L1171[22:43:17] <Shuud​oushi> I mean, who needs an upper body anyway? https://tinyurl.com/y6224tyo
L1172[22:43:23] <bad at​ vijya> nani? odyssey doriftu????
L1173[22:44:01] <Izaya> http://moto.zombdrive.com/images/kawasaki-zephyr-550-2.jpg
L1174[22:44:04] <Izaya> mmmmmm
L1175[22:44:31] <Shuud​oushi> Also got one of these for when a sparkplug doesn't want to go in https://tinyurl.com/y4w5pnml
L1176[22:45:35] <bad at​ vijya> i haven't tested the top speed of my honda ywt
L1177[22:45:37] <bad at​ vijya> *yet
L1178[22:46:30] <Izaya> ZZR600
L1179[22:46:31] <Izaya> mmm
L1180[22:46:43] <bad at​ vijya> all i know is that it doesn't have a speed limiter
L1181[22:48:23] <Shuud​oushi> My top speed limiter is the lack of down force... Nothin' like spinning tires at 140 because the front end starts to achieve lift off...
L1182[22:48:35] <bad at​ vijya> i got to like
L1183[22:48:38] <bad at​ vijya> 110
L1184[22:48:54] <bad at​ vijya> no limiter
L1185[22:49:03] <Izaya> tfw 150km/h down the highway pinging off the rev limiter in 6th
L1186[22:49:16] <bad at​ vijya> didn't reach the end of 5th
L1187[22:49:20] <Shuud​oushi> You wouldn't have hit a limiter at 110 in a honda anyway tho
L1188[22:49:26] <Izaya> 15kRPM baybee
L1189[22:49:32] <bad at​ vijya> fair
L1190[22:49:48] <bad at​ vijya> every other car i've driven had it at 100mph
L1191[22:50:01] <Michiyo> bulk -> bluk_mask
L1192[22:50:02] <Michiyo> lol...
L1193[22:50:16] <bad at​ vijya> trust me, 100mph in a chevy s10 is an experience
L1194[22:50:27] <Izaya> I desire a ZR250 or ZXR250 for that 22kRPM redline
L1195[22:50:29] <Shuud​oushi> 5th gear, 5k rpm (revs to 7200) is 140mph and lots of tire smoke
L1196[22:50:30] <bad at​ vijya> pushrod engine go brrrrrr
L1197[22:50:49] <bad at​ vijya> the s10 has no tach
L1198[22:51:02] <Izaya> fuck, I knew american vehicles were behind the times, but that was what, the 90s? a pushrod engine? really?
L1199[22:51:20] <Amanda> Izaya, dequbed btw. I'm not going to be beating any times. I'm just joining in for fun. I'm already on day 2 and I'm still working on reliably getting stuff to orbit and finding science to do. My next goal is a station, just because I never did one before
L1200[22:51:31] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: 96 to 02 iirc
L1201[22:51:33] <Shuud​oushi> There's 2014s with push rid >.>
L1202[22:51:41] <Izaya> I thought the only company still making pushrod engines was HD, because they haven't designed a new engine since 1949
L1203[22:51:54] <Izaya> (and Honda, because CG125 go brr)
L1204[22:52:02] <bad at​ vijya> sounds like GM
L1205[22:52:13] <Shuud​oushi> Dodge
L1206[22:52:25] <Shuud​oushi> And GM
L1207[22:52:26] <bad at​ vijya> GM only makes pushrod engines besides ecotec
L1208[22:52:55] <Izaya> Amanda: with dequbed joining in and you being chill it feels like I'm only really competing with Ariri for second place anyway lmao
L1209[22:53:02] <Shuud​oushi> The LS platform from GM and the Hemi platform from Dodge
L1210[22:53:33] <Izaya> I didn't realise american shit was that behind
L1211[22:53:35] <Izaya> fuck
L1212[22:53:38] <dequbed> Amanda: Well of course. This isn't about diehard competition anyway. I don't like that. This is first and foremost about having fun with rockets :)
L1213[22:54:20] <Amanda> Bbs thouh, going to rain box while I wait for my second scansar to do a planned litheobrake
L1214[22:54:44] <Amanda> s/planned/planned explosive/
L1215[22:54:44] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Bbs thouh, going to rain box while I wait for my second scansar to do a planned explosive litheobrake
L1216[22:55:01] <bad at​ vijya> the s10 gets like
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L1218[22:55:06] <bad at​ vijya> almost 30mpg tho
L1219[22:55:27] <Nuclea​rMayhem> anyone know how to fix this? https://tinyurl.com/yxzullwa
L1220[22:55:28] <bad at​ vijya> and i can't kill it
L1221[22:55:30] <Izaya> I mean, it's not terrible
L1222[22:55:46] <bad at​ vijya> it goes brrrrrrre
L1223[22:55:53] <bad at​ vijya> *brrrrrrrrrr
L1224[22:56:00] <bad at​ vijya> it's fine
L1225[22:56:01] <Izaya> NuclearMayhem: looks like a cert misconfiguration thing somewhere
L1226[22:56:06] <bad at​ vijya> underpowered, but fine
L1227[22:56:10] <Michiyo> @NuclearMayhem Upgrade java, or don't connect to websites with invalid certs
L1228[22:56:16] <bad at​ vijya> tough lmao
L1229[22:56:22] <Nuclea​rMayhem> well i made the website
L1230[22:56:34] <Michiyo> Then fix your certs, or upgrade java. :D
L1231[22:56:40] <Shuud​oushi> Then update time
L1232[22:56:44] <Nuclea​rMayhem> fuck i dont know how
L1233[22:56:47] <dequbed> Amanda: And also if you want tips about rocket design you're free to ask I just didn't want to annoy you with the intricacies of enginerding a row of upper stages while you're working on getting things to orbit at all.
L1234[22:57:33] <Michiyo> The error means that java can't validate the cert that the site presents. If you're using self signed you have to do something to make java accept your CA.
L1235[22:57:35] <Izaya> I mean, my mum's 380ES gets 10.8L/100km
L1236[22:57:52] <Michiyo> if you're using LE certs, and you're on an old java version you're gonna have a bad time.
L1237[22:57:55] <bad at​ vijya> everything i work with is older than me and has just about as many problems as me
L1238[22:58:10] <Izaya> sure it uses twice the fuel my bike does, but it has a fuckin 3.8L engine and weighs 10x as much
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L1240[22:58:21] <Michiyo> IIRC you need J8 u101 minimum for LE support
L1241[22:59:10] <Michiyo> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2893819/accept-servers-self-signed-ssl-certificate-in-java-client if self signed.
L1242[22:59:26] <Nuclea​rMayhem> imma check that
L1243[23:01:03] <bad at​ vijya> @Shuudoushi oh yeah i have the 2.2L in the S10
L1244[23:01:21] <bad at​ vijya> 4.3 is 2big for tiny truck
L1245[23:01:36] <Nuclea​rMayhem> for context my server uses flask in python
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L1247[23:01:49] <Michiyo> I really want to go to a 3400 in my sunfire..
L1248[23:02:16] <Michiyo> @NuclearMayhem Easiest is to stop using self signed certs. :P
L1249[23:02:22] <Nuclea​rMayhem> yeah
L1250[23:02:24] <Ariri> How do you duplicate everything attached to a parent part (to put somewhere else)?
L1251[23:02:26] <Nuclea​rMayhem> i tihnk igot it now
L1252[23:02:30] <Michiyo> either stop SSL if it's on the same host, or go to LE if you're on Java 8 u101 or newer
L1253[23:02:31] <Ariri> Oh, alt
L1254[23:02:32] <bad at​ vijya> i want the sewing machine piston V6 in my S10
L1255[23:02:33] <Nuclea​rMayhem> just find how to remove it from flask
L1256[23:02:42] <bad at​ vijya> 6A10 go screeeeeeee
L1257[23:02:44] <Nuclea​rMayhem> theres a magic word somewhere
L1258[23:02:48] <Nuclea​rMayhem> that fixes it
L1259[23:02:55] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya i just got a wee 2L with 10.5:1 compression
L1260[23:05:16] <bad at​ vijya> fair
L1261[23:06:49] <Amanda> dequbed: a large part of it is I forget a lot of stuff about the maths I managed to learn. Also ksp wasn't even 1.0 last time I played it seriously, so it's a rather steep learning curve
L1262[23:09:03] <Amanda> ( Also the American Education system sucked a lot ofthe fun I used to have with math out of me because I was doing it "the wrong way" )
L1263[23:10:07] <Amanda> "7 + 9 = 16 because if you take one from the 9 and put it in the 7, it's 8+8 and 8*2 = 16"
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L1266[23:12:39] <Amanda> Also I understood the concept of debt/negative numbers like a year or two before they tried to teach it, and they didn't like that I would say that "Susie owes sally 3 apples" for their "impossible" math question
L1267[23:13:58] <Izaya> two approaches to rocket surgery:
L1268[23:14:04] <Izaya> doing the maths, ie dequbed
L1269[23:14:09] <Izaya> automated brute force - me
L1270[23:14:20] <Amanda> three:explody side goes down, pray
L1271[23:14:22] <Amanda> ( me )
L1272[23:14:42] <dequbed> Izaya: Doing me is not always a valid way to rocket surgery <.<
L1273[23:15:22] <Amanda> though now that I know that kos is actually available at my current tech level,I'm likely to transision to automated brute forcing with copy-pasted clips of math I don't understand. :
L1274[23:15:31] <Amanda> :D
L1275[23:16:05] <Amanda> Take this line from Izaya's autolaunch:set apVel to sqrt(((1 - ship:orbit:ECCENTRICITY) * ship:orbit:body:mu) / ((1 + ship:orbit:ECCENTRICITY) * ship:orbit:SEMIMAJORAXIS)).
L1276[23:16:07] <Ariri> Izaya, how'd you stop your burn once reaching desired ap on the initial launch? My script keeps going until flame out
L1277[23:16:27] <Amanda> No fucking idea what the maths for that are for, and I lack the maths to understand in the first place
L1278[23:16:54] <Ariri> gravity pull down, explosion go up, line make circle
L1279[23:17:30] <Amanda> I found this repo on github, stole the peri/aponode from them for making a script to change the orbit of my one SCANsat satellite, and my deorbit satellite:https://github.com/pand5461/kOS
L1280[23:17:51] <Amanda> Also, am I mis-remembering or is the best place to change your Pe at Ap, and Ap at Pe?
L1281[23:18:02] <Ariri> That's right
L1282[23:18:20] <Ariri> Any burn affects its opposite side directly
L1283[23:19:48] <Amanda> Oh, I misunderstood the peri/aponode somehow in that repo, but I see it's doing The Right Thing™ regardless.
L1284[23:20:06] <Izaya> Ariri: lock throttle to 0, unlock throttle
L1285[23:20:41] <Izaya> closed up the house
L1286[23:20:45] <Izaya> let's see if this helps fend off the heat
L1287[23:21:22] <Ariri> What's your check though? My `until ship:apoapsis > 80000 { Ascent(). }` doesn't stop the function to let `throttle 0` happen
L1288[23:22:33] <Izaya> until ship:apoapsis > 80000 {
L1289[23:22:57] <Izaya> it is a busy loop though
L1290[23:23:38] <dequbed> Izaya: Also Stromboli best engine apparently <.<
L1291[23:23:42] <Ariri> Hrmm.. oh well. I'll just work on more explosions coordinated by hand
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L1293[23:38:00] <Amanda> Izaya: also: I think the easiest way to do the gravity turn that dequbed means is instead of beginning the turn at 20000 do it lower. I'm trying 2km atm
L1294[23:43:37] <dequbed> Amanda: 2km? Try 2m :p
L1295[23:45:13] <Amanda> I'll do 200m,I'm worried about the thing hitting the launch clamps otherwise. :P
L1296[23:46:49] <dequbed> Amanda: More seriously: If you want to launch low TWR (<2) rockets, make sure they have reasonable drag and just tip them over slighly at launch. Like 2-10 degree slightly (10 degree is rather a lot, I tend to use 5). If they flip over either the TWR is too high or the drag is to low / in the wrong spot.
L1297[23:47:22] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1298[23:47:22] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping rainbow potion (New!). Forecaster's hair glows the color of tomato until the next time they hug someone.
L1299[23:47:40] <Forec​aster> Hmm
L1300[23:47:51] <dequbed> Since drag is a function of speed there's a dendency for rockets to flip over early. If that happens let them speed up first, a good reference is some 100m/s
L1301[23:51:27] <Forec​aster> Michiyo I blame the text being really small in the save window! D:
L1302[23:51:48] <Forec​aster> Also shush D:
L1303[23:51:55] <Michiyo> this NBT texture shit is... a huge pain in the ass
L1304[23:52:13] <Michiyo> And I'd rather not register a bunch of individual items if I can avoid it >_>
L1305[23:53:33] <Forec​aster> So, none of the above? :P
L1306[23:53:40] <ThePi​Guy24> store the texture in NBT
L1307[23:53:51] <ThePi​Guy24> each bit individually
L1308[23:53:53] <Michiyo> I'll store Forecaster in NBT
L1309[23:54:45] <superminor2> I didn't realize you could store people in NBT new
L1310[23:55:00] <superminor2> Is that a new beta format?
L1311[23:55:07] <Michiyo> Yes
L1312[23:55:10] <Michiyo> wanna try it?
L1313[23:55:25] <superminor2> Not personally
L1314[23:56:38] <Michiyo> Damn.
L1315[23:56:52] <superminor2> You could try it on my neighbor if you want
L1316[23:57:08] <superminor2> That guy is a jerk
L1317[23:58:27] <Michiyo> lol
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