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L2[00:08:13] <Michiyo> FUCKS SAKE...
L3[00:08:14] <Michiyo> Finally
L4[00:08:41] <Michiyo> downgraded forge, kicked InteliJ in the head a few times... and now I can actually load MC WITH OC, and my mod
L5[00:09:14] <Michiyo> Well, I mean kinda with my mod... it's broken lol
L6[00:19:22] <Amanda> Right, let's see how much I forget about KSP/how much has changed
L7[00:19:41] <Amanda> Explosion part goes down to go to space today, right?
L8[00:20:42] <Kristo​pher38> anyone has experience working with low memory in OC? which thing to use to read a file with minimum overhead, io.open, filesystem component .open() or filesystem API .open()
L9[00:20:48] <Izaya> yees
L10[00:20:52] <Izaya> controlled explosion point down
L11[00:20:57] <Izaya> rocket go up
L12[00:23:23] <ThePi​Guy24> Kristopher38: component is lowest usage (afaik pretty much 0), component api is slightly higher, io is much higher as it buffers the data to improve read speed
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L14[00:23:50] <ThePi​Guy24> %s/component api/fs api/
L15[00:23:50] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> Kristopher38: component is lowest usage (afaik pretty much 0), fs api is slightly higher, io is much higher as it buffers the data to improve read speed
L16[00:24:25] <Kristo​pher38> I see
L17[00:25:12] <Kristo​pher38> thanks, also do strings take as much RAM as their byte representation?
L18[00:25:32] <ThePi​Guy24> strings are bytes
L19[00:25:37] <Amanda> Oh hey, KSP finished loading
L20[00:25:38] <Kristo​pher38> yeah i know
L21[00:25:44] <Kristo​pher38> I'm talking about OC
L22[00:25:49] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L23[00:25:52] <Amanda> Izaya: this sure is a heavy pack. or I broke CKAN
L24[00:25:57] <Kristo​pher38> I had weird readings last time I tested that
L25[00:26:07] <Izaya> the station parts pack has like
L26[00:26:09] <Izaya> a lot of IVAs
L27[00:26:20] <Izaya> you can delete them to save like a GB of memory alone
L28[00:26:22] <ThePi​Guy24> string.len returns the amount of bytes, unicode.len returns the amount of characters
L29[00:26:27] <Kristo​pher38> maybe because Lua internalized some of my test strings
L30[00:26:56] <Vampyre> wouldn't strings likely not be utf-16?
L31[00:27:04] <Vampyre> dunno how lua stores them internally
L32[00:27:06] <Kristo​pher38> so it looked like memory usage was lower than their real size
L33[00:27:55] <ThePi​Guy24> im not too sure what happened there in that case
L34[00:28:18] <Kristo​pher38> yeah I'll retest
L35[00:28:29] <Amanda> "Crouching Dweep, Hidden Himbo" - Geoff Theu
L36[00:29:11] <Izaya> Amanda: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/7f6870422fd24c37abf9bb830161ede33e70097d3c2bd9191a03f06500f8c375.webm
L37[00:29:37] <Amanda> Izaya: hahaha yeah, I figured you'd clip thatout
L38[00:30:31] <Izaya> Was about to ask if I'm really that predictable, but I mean, how could I not?
L39[00:31:41] <Amanda> :P
L40[00:31:56] <Amanda> Tatoeba Last Dungeon Mae no Mura no Shounen ga Joban no Machi de Kurasu Youna Monogatari also sounds interesting, downloadingthat now
L41[00:33:16] <Izaya> they're really taking the piss with long titles nowadays aren't they?
L42[00:33:28] <Izaya> I thought 5 words was excessive, but here we are.
L43[00:33:28] <Amanda> Blame Light Novels
L44[00:36:00] <Amanda> Right,pack loads, going to unplug I think now though
L45[00:36:23] <Izaya> okey
L46[00:36:32] <Izaya> enjoy
L47[00:39:10] <Kristo​pher38> @ThePiGuy24 weird, a string that's supposed to be 8KB long is reported to be occupy 4KB in OC
L48[00:39:29] <ThePiGuy24> huh
L49[00:39:53] <Kristo​pher38> unless string.rep does something magical
L50[00:40:06] <ThePiGuy24> i dont think it compressees
L51[00:42:30] <Kristo​pher38> if I make it into a constant 8K characters long i'm getting negative memory usage, that tells me constants don't actually use OC memory
L52[00:48:50] <Kristo​pher38> alright it even checks out for unicode chars, string with unicode chars that's expected to have some size occupies half that size in OC memory
L53[00:52:19] * Michiyo shanks everything related to modding and spits on the bleeding corpse
L54[00:52:48] <Kristo​pher38> correction - constants do use memory, but they start doing so when your script is loaded
L55[00:53:04] <Kristo​pher38> them not using memory would be silly
L56[00:53:16] <simon816> %tonk
L57[00:53:18] <MichiBot> Golly! simo​n816! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 16 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L58[00:53:19] <MichiBot> simon816's new record is 4 hours, 16 minutes and 15 seconds! simon816 also gained 0.00427 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8 => #7. (Overtook bauen1) Need 0.00098 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L59[00:56:06] <Kristo​pher38> this is like a magic compression
L60[00:56:45] <Kristo​pher38> you store everything you want into a string with string.pack and it takes up half the memory it did before
L61[00:57:13] <Vampyre> string.pack(string.pack()) !
L62[00:57:29] <Vampyre> compress it down to 1 byte ;-)
L63[00:58:32] <Kristo​pher38> epic entropy moment
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L69[02:18:18] <Ariri> Izaya, I now have access to Kraken: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/kqyLnWfJQjQyTQt/
L70[02:18:30] <Ariri> Anything else I should do before hand?
L71[02:18:42] <Izaya> link no work
L72[02:19:07] <Ariri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/kqyLnWfJQjQyTQt
L73[02:19:11] <Ariri> Heckin' slash
L74[02:19:16] <Izaya> there we go
L75[02:19:21] <Izaya> >:D
L76[02:19:56] <Ariri> I've probably pirated this game so many times, my purchase is overdue
L77[02:20:05] * Izaya nods sagely
L78[02:20:15] <Izaya> I played the game for like 5 years before buying it
L79[02:20:19] <Ariri> I got it on my old HP back when Scott Manley made videos on it, lol.
L80[02:20:29] <Izaya> he's doing that again now
L81[02:20:31] <Izaya> kinda
L82[02:20:50] <Ariri> Ooh, have only seen his SpaceX content lately
L83[02:21:09] <Izaya> he's been showing some of the NF and FF mod content
L84[02:21:34] <Ariri> Also set my SSD to compress files now as there was only 34GB left on it, so I'll set it going and go on mobile
L85[02:22:05] <Ariri> I'll probably check it out. Might even read some change logs or something because I've seen theres been a lot of changes
L86[02:22:20] <Izaya> Still can't get over how forcing zstd compression on my ARK install reduced it from 270GB to 36GB.
L87[02:22:30] <Ariri> Stonks
L88[02:22:33] <Izaya> The side effect of that being that because it has to read less data, the game loads faster.
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L90[02:23:03] <Ariri> >13hours of compression
L91[02:23:23] <Izaya> install ckan once that download finishes and have it download the mods
L92[02:23:28] <Izaya> there's a GB or two of content in there
L93[02:23:41] <Ariri> Will do
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L95[02:23:42] <Izaya> you'll probably want to make a new instance for it, also
L96[02:24:01] <Ariri> As in save file?
L97[02:24:12] <Izaya> no, game instance
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L99[02:24:27] <Ariri> How do you mean?
L100[02:24:46] <Izaya> CKAN lets you copy your KSP install
L101[02:24:57] <Izaya> so you can have multiple different versions and sets of mods installed
L102[02:25:22] <Ariri> Oh, I see. So use CKAN to dupe the base game and launch that version instead of the Steam one? Or does it intergrate
L103[02:25:49] <Izaya> yeah exactly
L104[02:26:04] <Izaya> game doesn't actually check ownership anyway which is sort of fun
L105[02:26:21] <Ariri> Gotcha.
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L107[02:26:43] <Izaya> I like to keep a clean copy of the base game for updates and then a copy for with the mods I'm using
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L109[02:28:01] <Ariri> I'll probably do the same thing once this finishes. I suspect it'll be less than 13 hours since CPU is barely at half and its going through all the small Minecraft files atm
L110[02:28:13] <Izaya> haha
L111[02:28:20] <Shuud​oushi> es tut mir leid, was!? https://tinyurl.com/y2d3oxga
L112[02:28:36] <Ariri> Going to watch some Stargate (again) or something, be afk but on Discord mobile
L113[02:28:52] <Shuud​oushi> the fuck do you mean!?
L114[02:29:01] <Izaya> tfw want to nap but I'm cooking so I'm commited to staying awake for another 35 minutes
L115[02:29:32] <Shuud​oushi> I haven't fucked with the text lib, why is it broken!?
L116[02:30:42] <Amanda> Insufficient cookies
L117[02:30:52] <Shuud​oushi> oh, I got the bootloader working again, something about the way I had the motd file setup fucking BROKE the boot process
L118[02:32:20] <bad at​ vijya> just use zorya as a bootloader lmao
L119[02:32:23] <bad at​ vijya> (this is a joke)
L120[02:32:35] * Izaya installs zorya
L121[02:33:04] * Amanda installs cookies
L122[02:33:07] <bad at​ vijya> [izaya suddenly finds he's out of disk space and it takes 3x longer to boot]
L123[02:34:06] <Izaya> thinking about writing an EEPROM designed to boot specifically PsychOS that is just the first part of the kernel and a thing to load the rest so have to load 4K less off the disk
L124[02:34:32] <Izaya> saving two component calls and making it boot even faster
L125[02:34:42] <Izaya> Suns Boot Fast
L126[02:36:40] <bad at​ vijya> i should turn zorya's core into an OS tbh
L127[02:36:58] <Izaya> I should really uh
L128[02:37:03] <Izaya> steal Skye's loader
L129[02:37:27] <Izaya> so one could choose to have a kernel with separate parts instead of compiled into one thing
L130[02:39:10] <bad at​ vijya> izaya
L131[02:39:15] <bad at​ vijya> always remember
L132[02:39:28] <bad at​ vijya> [inhales]
L133[02:39:31] <Izaya> happy day
L134[02:39:37] <bad at​ vijya> TSUKI IS NOT AN OPERATING SYSTEM UNTO ITSELF
L135[02:40:17] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: see the thing is right
L136[02:40:21] <Izaya> if I were to steal Skye's loader
L137[02:40:30] <Izaya> that would mean disentangling it from miniOS NT
L138[02:40:40] <bad at​ vijya> i see
L139[02:40:52] <bad at​ vijya> you know
L140[02:40:58] <Izaya> because Skye wrote a module loader so she could run a PsychOS subsystem to provide a userspace for miniOS NT
L141[02:41:13] <bad at​ vijya> i could ~~overengineer~~ write a fancy loader for PsychOS
L142[02:41:27] <Izaya> and the module loader is effectively miniOS NT thread integration and a thing to load modules from files
L143[02:41:45] <Izaya> which is quite effective and very neat
L144[02:41:53] <Izaya> because it's effectively been ported to another kernel
L145[02:42:33] <Izaya> (I'm not sure if file I/O was replaced also, but it could be)
L146[02:43:13] <bad at​ vijya> fancy
L147[02:43:32] <bad at​ vijya> i wonder if i could make a PsychOS subsystem for Zorya NEO
L148[02:43:53] <Izaya> it'd be interesting to do uh
L149[02:43:59] <Izaya> like, conditional loading for kernel modules
L150[02:44:06] <Izaya> so you could load a compiled kernel
L151[02:44:13] <Izaya> and if you pre-specified things
L152[02:44:16] <bad at​ vijya> hm
L153[02:44:19] <Izaya> like, for example, a filesystem API replacement
L154[02:44:29] <Izaya> it wouldn't make a new one, it'd use the one in the environment already
L155[02:44:33] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna do something
L156[02:44:35] <bad at​ vijya> really crack filled
L157[02:44:40] <bad at​ vijya> with Zorya NEO
L158[02:44:46] <Izaya> not sure if I'd use it but it'd be interesting for certain uses
L159[02:44:53] <Izaya> userland PsychOS?
L160[02:44:57] <bad at​ vijya> no
L161[02:44:59] <bad at​ vijya> even more crack filled
L162[02:45:12] <bad at​ vijya> porting the same scheduler i keep writing for Tsuki to Zorya NEO
L163[02:46:34] <bad at​ vijya> fuck it, port a bunch of Tsuki stuff to Zorya
L164[02:46:57] <bad at​ vijya> tfw your bootloader kernel panics
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L168[03:33:19] <Michiyo> god damn it intellij...
L169[03:33:27] <Michiyo> So my issues have been resources not loading.
L170[03:33:42] <Michiyo> had to add sourceSets {
L171[03:33:43] <Michiyo> main { output.resourcesDir = output.classesDir }
L172[03:33:43] <Michiyo> } to the end of my build.gradle
L173[03:33:46] * Amanda pads over to Elfi, passes out in a cloud of tireds she was rolling around in, zzzmewd
L174[03:34:01] <Amanda> Night nerds
L175[03:34:12] <Michiyo> Night Amanda
L176[03:34:27] <Amanda> Ganbatte, michiyo!
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L178[04:17:44] <Vampyre> Ataring at code too long, the code will start staring back at you. Right into ones soul, slowly eating away at the sanity.
L179[04:17:52] <Vampyre> break time... %drink coffee
L180[04:17:54] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L181[04:35:38] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y6a5od55
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L188[05:36:53] <test> hol up whats this?
L189[05:37:06] <Michiyo> This is IRC
L190[05:37:19] <Michiyo> Welcome to the world of... the 80's
L191[05:37:42] <test> ohhh, ok
L192[05:38:35] <Michiyo> Kinda, dead right now.
L193[05:38:46] <test> yeah
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L195[05:44:11] <Ariri> Izaya, still compressing because I missed a prompt while afk, but got a mods list for me to read through while I wait? Or at least a few that are for sure going to be in our makeshift space-race?
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L197[05:57:28] <bad at​ vijya> what the
L198[05:57:36] <bad at​ vijya> what the fuck https://tinyurl.com/y6boc4ay
L199[06:12:08] <Michiyo> Time Travel!
L200[06:13:06] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Just Discord being Discord.
L201[06:13:45] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Looks normal on my end.
L202[06:34:44] <Wat​tana> found out why the threading system is acting weird https://tinyurl.com/y52uhpba
L203[06:34:59] <Wat​tana> found out why the threading system is acting weird and giving out non-existent threads https://tinyurl.com/y52uhpba [Edited]
L204[07:03:45] <i develo​p things> Me just after brushing teeth: AAAAA WHY AM I SPITTING RED also me: just ate cherry ice cream
L205[07:23:11] * Vampyre almost never wonders why that happens to me
L206[08:21:00] <Forec​aster> %sip
L207[08:21:00] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy moonstone potion (New!). Forecaster gains knowledge about a random useless subject.
L208[08:44:30] <Va​ur> %tonk
L209[08:44:30] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Va​ur! You beat simo​n816's previous record of 4 hours, 16 minutes and 15 seconds (By 3 hours, 34 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L210[08:44:31] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 7 hours, 51 minutes and 12 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0179 (0.00358 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L214[09:24:34] <Ariri> Izaya, I forgot you sent a ckan file already, got it installing now but got https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/obmBkeSbk2G9ycM
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L229[09:41:24] <Vampyre> awww, a net split!
L230[09:41:34] <Vampyre> didn't see one of these for years
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L246[09:41:44] <Vampyre> how nostalgic ;-)
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L248[09:52:18] <Izaya> Ariri: either corrupted during download or other weirdness
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L276[10:40:45] <b​kj> mods raiding us
L277[10:40:49] <b​kj> bots*
L278[10:42:19] <Izaya> That damn Corded, eh?
L279[10:43:30] <Izaya> Bringing Discord users into our comfy channel :|
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L281[10:50:09] <Michiyo> The whole IRC users are bots schtick is old.
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L284[11:09:02] <Forec​aster> Michiyo I had that same issue when I made the item mod for the "cargo" items I'm using currently
L285[11:09:23] <Forec​aster> I just copied the resources into some folder that let it work
L286[11:10:17] <Michiyo> I've had so many issues, which issue specifically?
L287[11:10:18] <Michiyo> lol
L288[11:11:08] <Izaya> ayy, got a shitty KSP save file parser working
L289[11:12:42] <Izaya> okay no never mind
L290[11:12:53] <Izaya> hmhm
L291[11:14:24] <Izaya> there can be multiple of each entry and they're only differentiated by their contents
L292[11:14:26] <Izaya> inconvenient
L293[11:14:52] <Izaya> not really sure how to deal with this
L294[11:17:44] <Michiyo> @Forecaster great news! https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/m4S4G9Qp2dezmng
L295[11:18:03] <Michiyo> no NPE on this one!
L296[11:18:44] <Forec​aster> nice
L297[11:19:17] <Michiyo> Alas, that took all fucking night
L298[11:19:29] <Michiyo> so work will continue tomoro..... later today
L299[11:19:56] <Michiyo> It's been a long time since I started a mod from scratch.
L300[11:20:02] <Forec​aster> heh
L301[11:25:09] <Izaya> okay so I have it semi-working now
L302[11:25:11] <Izaya> \o/
L303[11:26:06] <Izaya> I have listed all the ships in the save file
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L305[11:28:01] <h> h
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L307[11:28:19] <B​ob> h
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L309[11:28:32] <Forec​aster> if all other keys on your keyboard are broken type "h"
L310[11:28:43] <Amanda> Q
L311[11:28:46] <Guest46645> h
L312[11:29:06] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/8AmUaJA.png
L313[11:33:19] <Guest46645> engineer gaming
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L315[11:46:37] <dequbed> Izaya: I notice no Final Frontier in the pack. Final Frontier best mod :(
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L317[11:48:46] <Izaya> that's cute
L318[11:49:26] <Izaya> not updated for 1.11 yet though
L319[11:50:12] <dequbed> I don't think that does anything at all that could ever be incompatible :P
L320[11:50:21] <Izaya> you're probably right
L321[11:51:18] <Vampyre> java.lang.RuntimeException: class v.ocframebuffer.FBScreenEntity is missing a mapping! This is a bug!
L322[11:51:24] <Vampyre> thank you Java... I suspected there was a bug when you started crashing...
L323[11:53:23] <dequbed> Izaya: Also no Ferram? You're making me redesign all of my SSTOs ._.
L324[11:54:08] <Amanda> ...was... was that the wilhelm scream I just heard in the backgroundd of the KSP facility screen?
L325[11:55:41] <Izaya> inkscape is hard
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L327[12:07:37] <Aaron> Hi
L328[12:08:07] <Aaron> Hello from Sheol!
L329[12:08:25] <Aaron> Is anyone here?
L330[12:08:40] <Izaya> Sheol?
L331[12:08:50] <Forec​aster> yes, but nobody gets paid to reply to everyone instantly
L332[12:09:05] <Aaron> Huh ok!
L333[12:09:45] <Aaron> Have a great Day Then!
L334[12:12:54] <Amanda> Izaya: is it expected you start with planes in this pack? If so, I might have to learn the plane stuff in ksp
L335[12:13:06] <Izaya> I don't really do planes tbh
L336[12:13:06] <Forec​aster> Kind of curious what a Scutler mk 7 looks like, but it's probably armed... https://tinyurl.com/y4m8mx93
L337[12:13:18] <Amanda> Ah
L338[12:13:45] <Vampyre> planes are hard
L339[12:13:53] <Amanda> I just assumed since there's no safe recovery afaict
L340[12:14:04] <Amanda> Just a solid rocket booster
L341[12:14:30] <Amanda> No way to get back safely after attempting into space
L342[12:14:42] <Izaya> Don't you have parachutes?
L343[12:14:42] <Vampyre> in kerbel terms, that sounds pretty safe to me ;-)
L344[12:14:54] <Vampyre> kerbal*
L345[12:15:01] <Amanda> Not that I can find? Where are they under?
L346[12:15:06] <Izaya> utilities
L347[12:15:08] <Izaya> the gear
L348[12:15:10] <Izaya> s
L349[12:15:43] <Izaya> Also
L350[12:15:47] <Izaya> your kerbals have parachutes
L351[12:18:00] <Amanda> Oh,there is is
L352[12:18:05] <Amanda> I don't know how I missed that
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L354[12:19:02] <dequbed> Izaya: What difficulty settings do we play with?
L355[12:19:42] <Forec​aster> the answer is very interesting, but the remote control block is much better hidden than the first ship I hijacked...
L356[12:19:43] <Izaya> easy with the commnet system enabled
L357[12:19:48] <Forec​aster> ie not in the cockpit
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L359[12:20:32] <dequbed> Izaya: Where do you put custom flags again?
L360[12:20:44] <Izaya> GameData/Squad/Flags
L361[12:21:40] <dequbed> ... I have to restart for that, don't I?
L362[12:22:59] <Amanda> I'm just using the default CatFlag, myself. :P
L363[12:23:15] <Amanda> right, let's into science today.
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L368[12:30:56] <Guest76492> is this just for opencomputer or?
L369[12:33:08] <Forec​aster> and TIS-3D
L370[12:33:13] <Forec​aster> and lots of other things
L371[12:34:16] <Forec​aster> common hacking computer, hack the damn remote control block so I can stop this ship
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L375[12:52:27] <Forec​aster> oh man, there's so much hydrogen in these tanks on this ship...
L376[12:52:37] <Forec​aster> I kind of regret starting to disassemble it now...
L377[12:52:42] <Forec​aster> I want to drain these tanks
L378[12:52:46] * Amanda turns on a small hydrogen thruster
L379[12:53:16] <Forec​aster> I've ruined half the ship now though, it probably can't take off again
L380[12:55:16] <Forec​aster> I could take off the tanks and turn them into a ship...
L381[12:56:39] <Vampyre> can I suggest the name 'FSC Hindenburg'?
L382[12:57:05] <Amanda> Let's see if I can into upper-atmospherenow
L383[13:00:32] <Amanda> Hrm.Why didn't my liquid rocket engine work
L384[13:01:12] <Forec​aster> probably wasn't liquid enough
L385[13:07:23] <Forec​aster> it flew fine it turns out
L386[13:07:27] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y3koq52k
L387[13:07:38] <Forec​aster> also, unrelated, it's super foggy at my base right now
L388[13:07:52] <dequbed> Izaya: Easy is making this first mission harder for me <.<
L389[13:08:03] <dequbed> Didn't even make it to orbit :<
L390[13:08:29] <Forec​aster> what does the difficulty even do
L391[13:08:39] <Forec​aster> I don't remember
L392[13:08:39] <dequbed> In this case, make part heating less severe
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L395[13:18:11] <dequbed> Anyway 76 science on first launch is acceptable. Izaya where do I put the save? :p
L396[13:18:54] <Izaya> on your hard drive
L397[13:18:57] <Izaya> post screenshots
L398[13:19:01] <dequbed> oh
L399[13:19:23] <dequbed> ... lemme just re-launch this thing then
L400[13:20:26] <Amanda> dequbed: ... I didn't realise you /could/ maek it to orbit on your first mission!
L401[13:21:01] <dequbed> Amanda: The maths just /barely/ works out with the hardest part heating settings
L402[13:23:11] <dequbed> Amanda / Izaya: 1st launch monstrocity: https://i.imgur.com/Rq1T2ZK.png
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L404[13:34:28] <Forec​aster> wow, another scutler going past....
L405[13:34:32] <Forec​aster> I'ma grab that one too
L406[13:34:43] <Forec​aster> more free hydrogen and uranium for me
L407[13:35:03] <Amanda> weld them all together into one hyper-scutler
L408[13:36:31] <Amanda> Izaya: do liquid engines require something new since I last played / with one of the mods?
L409[13:36:44] <Izaya> normal LF engines take LF and OX
L410[13:36:49] <Amanda> I've got two T100 liquid ta-- ah
L411[13:36:52] <Izaya> cryo engines take LH2 and OX
L412[13:37:12] <Amanda> That'll do it. at least I got some science from higher up
L413[13:37:24] <Amanda> and itlooks like I get to observe wet goo soon
L414[13:37:33] <Amanda> going to splash down off the coast of the KSC
L415[13:37:37] <Forec​aster> hacking device planted, now to wait for it to gain control of this thing https://tinyurl.com/yx9pjh4q
L416[13:40:10] <dequbed> Izaya: Not having FAR is killing me q.q
L417[13:40:22] <dequbed> Well rather it's killing my kerbals.
L418[13:40:43] <Amanda> FAR?
L419[13:41:01] <dequbed> Ferram Aerospace Research. A mod that adds more realistic atmospheric maths
L420[13:41:03] <Forec​aster> it's fun when it takes over something and the hostile turrets start shooting
L421[13:41:08] <Amanda> h
L422[13:41:10] <Amanda> ah*
L423[13:41:12] <Forec​aster> or when it takes over a turret and it starts shooting other things
L424[13:42:33] <dequbed> Amanda: it's less necessary now than it was back wayback when but I'm way too used to it to stop using it now :P
L425[13:42:59] <dequbed> Also it provides mach and drag analysis so I can actually enginerd my spaceplanes instead of guesstimating :P
L426[13:46:14] <Forec​aster> woop, all the turrets hacked and turned off
L427[13:49:04] <Amanda> Izaya: accorgint to the menu in the T100 it's already got both LF andOX in it?
L428[13:53:49] <Amanda> ... it occurstomeI may not be gettign enough into space to use LF rockets
L429[13:57:23] <dequbed> Check KER for your engine ISP at the altitudes you're enabling them at.
L430[13:57:41] <Amanda> I know some of those words!
L431[14:00:59] <Forec​aster> these two captured ships probably outmass the rest of my base...
L432[14:01:03] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yydulka5
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L434[14:14:06] <Inari> So
L435[14:14:10] <Inari> Anyone excited for Dsyon Sphere Program?
L436[14:14:26] <Forec​aster> never heard of
L437[14:14:31] <Forec​aster> when was that announced
L438[14:14:46] <Inari> January or so? No clue
L439[14:14:55] <Inari> Hm nah, eariler
L440[14:15:16] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjvFMectdg
L441[14:15:17] <MichiBot> Dyson Sphere Program Preview! Early Access Coming January 21, 2021! | length: 21m 25s | Likes: 40 Dislikes: 1 Views: 2,374 | by Stone Legion - Let's Play | Published On 8/1/2021
L442[14:17:47] <Inari> Or just watch this for the actual livestream I guess <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vnv-qgUVg >
L443[14:17:47] <MichiBot> Dyson Sphere Program - Producer Pre-Launch Live Recording (Chinese Language) | length: 1h, 49m 56s | Likes: 41 Dislikes: 2 Views: 2,253 | by Gamera Game | Published On 7/1/2021
L444[14:29:44] <dequbed> It'll take a while until I'm used to the new EVA controls <.<
L445[14:31:05] * Amanda is waiting for Jeb to get to 2km in this baloon, so she can drop him and then activate the parachute for this contract
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L448[14:38:56] <Inari> %splash Amanda
L449[14:38:57] <MichiBot> You fling a shimmering ruby potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda sees their face etched into one of the shards of the broken bottle.
L450[14:39:10] <Amanda> D:
L451[14:39:11] <dequbed> Amanda: Cost saving measure: Don't use parachutes.
L452[14:39:32] <Amanda> dequbed: andkill my precious boy jeb?
L453[14:40:14] <dequbed> Find the parachute in the screenshot above :P Jeb survived ;)
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L455[14:40:54] <Amanda> I'm nowhere near good enough at rocket surgery for that
L456[14:40:57] <Forec​aster> Inari, oh yeah that, I remember that now
L457[14:41:07] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L458[14:41:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L459[14:47:42] <dequbed> Izaya: Do you know if vanilla aerodynamics have body lift yet?
L460[14:49:14] <Inari> %dodge
L461[14:49:14] <MichiBot> Inari managed to partially dodge Amanda. With a 16 vs 12 Inari only takes half of the 3 damage.
L462[14:49:34] * Inari notes: Cat aggressive even with reduced tireds
L463[14:51:46] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable redstone potion
L464[14:51:46] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable redstone potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into an aluminium platypus girl until someone baps them.
L465[14:52:07] <Inari> Amanda: rude
L466[14:53:05] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L467[14:53:05] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty chocolate potion (New!). BrisingrAerowing feels chill.
L468[14:55:16] <Amanda> Rude!
L469[14:55:27] <Amanda> Just as I was ding somewhat well at a takeoff, Steam crashed, bringing KSP down with it
L470[15:00:47] <Amanda> %bite Inari again for good measure
L471[15:00:47] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L472[15:01:04] <Inari> D:
L473[15:01:08] <Inari> %parry
L474[15:01:08] <MichiBot> Inari failed to parry Amanda. With a 2 vs 12 Inari takes the full 6 damage.
L475[15:01:17] <Inari> Amanda: way too rude
L476[15:01:26] <Amanda> You stole my tireds! D:
L477[15:03:04] <dequbed> Amanda: Start KSP from CKAN without steam for more stability :[
L478[15:03:06] <dequbed> :p*
L479[15:03:27] <Amanda> dequbed: something in NixOS seems unhappy about that, can't be bothered to debug right meow
L480[15:04:06] <Inari> Amanda: which means you cna play KSP!
L481[15:05:52] <dequbed> oh right nix
L482[15:06:06] <Izaya> alright time to start this save
L483[15:06:10] <Izaya> and put on some anime while KSP loads
L484[15:06:36] <Amanda> [ 12 hours later ]
L485[15:09:03] <dequbed> Izaya: Do we count in launches or in real time?
L486[15:09:18] <Izaya> I was going to do UT
L487[15:09:30] <dequbed> UT?
L488[15:09:37] <Izaya> the KSP time
L489[15:09:54] <dequbed> ah
L490[15:13:03] <Amanda> How high is it until you've into space?
L491[15:13:12] <dequbed> 70250m
L492[15:13:13] <Izaya> 70km and there's no longer drag
L493[15:13:24] <dequbed> or 69NNNm i forgot
L494[15:16:02] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/221c8c25edc73003f7cc3d0caa3adfa48089d420f4b5538cd3aa3638b2a50716.jpg
L495[15:16:45] <Forec​aster> surely there's an anime about rockets
L496[15:17:32] <Amanda> I swear rockets didn't use to fling themselves around this randomly
L497[15:18:07] <Amanda> oh well, got enought science tomaybe get some gyros now, so that'll hopefully be less of a problem
L498[15:19:29] <b​kj> hello bots
L499[15:19:38] <Amanda> hello bot
L500[15:19:44] <b​kj> your the bot here
L501[15:19:56] <Amanda> Doesn't look like it from this side.
L502[15:20:15] <Amanda> You're a bot with MPD called Corded.
L503[15:20:34] <b​kj> where r u even chatting from
L504[15:20:43] <Va​ur> they are on irc
L505[15:20:45] <Amanda> The superior IRC
L506[15:20:47] <Forec​aster> time and space itself
L507[15:20:48] <b​kj> wow people use that still
L508[15:21:06] <b​kj> whats the domain to connect
L509[15:21:08] <Va​ur> you'd be surprise, there is a lot of things that rely on irc still
L510[15:21:21] <Izaya> for example, facebook
L511[15:21:38] <Inari> Hm
L512[15:21:39] <b​kj> how to connect to it :p
L513[15:21:44] <Inari> wonder if there are any nice servers wiht Create
L514[15:22:16] <Izaya> irc.esper.net #oc
L515[15:24:30] <b​kj> connection lost :D
L516[15:24:41] <b​kj> ah my nickname
L517[15:24:44] <Amanda> works fine here
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L519[15:25:58] <beedslol> ah yes
L520[15:26:02] <b​kj> it works
L521[15:26:11] <Amanda> You shouldn't IRC as root.
L522[15:26:36] <beedslol> well yeah. I had this terminal window "sudo'ed" and when i just launched irssi it just took root as the username
L523[15:27:10] <Amanda> now any RCE in irssi will pwn your entire system good job
L524[15:27:57] <beedslol> what ;-;
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L526[15:29:36] <Amanda> "55.9 science arned" awwwyyiiiisss
L527[15:30:01] <Izaya> second rocket made it out of the atmosphere :3
L528[15:30:53] <Amanda> I have no idea what launch this even is
L529[15:32:40] <Amanda> but hey, I learned why the LF rockets weren't working!
L530[15:32:46] <Amanda> I... forgot to turn up the throttle
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L532[15:37:52] <Izaya> ...
L533[15:37:54] <Izaya> ... That'd do it.
L534[15:38:38] <Forec​aster> Launch 99 notes: 0% engine power causes engines to not work
L535[15:39:00] <Inari> WONTFIX
L536[15:39:37] <Inari> It's still impossible to search for minecraft servers by mod
L537[15:41:34] <Forec​aster> %sip
L538[15:41:34] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny rock potion (New!). Dramatic music briefly plays in the distance.
L539[15:54:07] <Amanda> I am into space!
L540[15:54:21] <Izaya> Third rocket should achieve orbit, with some luck.
L541[15:55:18] <Izaya> Or not, not enough dV
L542[15:56:10] <Amanda> If I was less distracted, this might have been able to orbit,but I saw something shiny
L543[16:07:45] <Forec​aster> was it the sun?
L544[16:08:50] <Amanda> n-no...
L545[16:10:31] <Amanda> Izaya: how do the balloons work? Do they just stay inflated forever, or do they pop/descend or similar
L546[16:10:42] <Izaya> I haven't used them yet tbh
L547[16:10:46] <Amanda> ah
L548[16:11:05] <Amanda> I shall test them, then. I think I'll stick a SCANtron on it and let it get the planet as it rotates underneath it
L549[16:11:17] <dequbed> Izaya: Not having to do life support allows for some ... cheaty missions :D
L550[16:12:31] <Amanda> 84 science earned. :D
L551[16:17:41] <Amanda> also, in my defese, I thought that the bar by the stage indicator was the throttle, having forgotten it's near the navball
L552[16:18:22] <dequbed> Izaya: This is unfair :p https://imgur.com/a/n0b1gcy
L553[16:21:06] <Izaya> dequbed: I built a rover and roved around the KSC.
L554[16:21:08] <Izaya> :D
L555[16:21:18] <Inari> %bap Amanda from behind while she isn't looking
L556[16:21:18] <MichiBot> Inari baps Amanda with from behind while she isn't looking!
L557[16:21:55] <Amanda> Izaya: .. how do I switch out of this? It keeps giving me warnings. Maybe a baloon for this won't work? I'll let it get higher first
L558[16:22:27] <Amanda> "Warning: You are in flight"
L559[16:25:55] <Forec​aster> turn off all of your engines, then you wont be flying, you'll be falling
L560[16:26:35] <Vampyre> you can't switch back to KSC or other crafts when in atmos, but you can speed time up still (up to 4x I think?)
L561[16:26:51] <Amanda> @Forecaster an earlier alert was "you are on a collision course"
L562[16:27:04] <Amanda> Vampyre: damn, that'll be annoying theb
L563[16:27:21] <Amanda> Guess I'll do some hallucinations while at 4x warp
L564[16:29:54] <Amanda> oh, hey. "NO probe control" That's not good
L565[16:30:05] <Amanda> guess It'll be plummeting into the ground if the balooon does pop
L566[16:30:12] <Vampyre> out of battery power? ;-)
L567[16:30:25] <Amanda> ... ah, yes
L568[16:30:32] <Amanda> maybe I should get solars first
L569[16:31:59] <Izaya> > CPU is 88°
L570[16:32:01] <Izaya> ah fuck
L571[16:35:09] <ThePi​Guy24> i got my thinkpad up to 95 once :p
L572[16:35:20] <ThePi​Guy24> before i cleaned it
L573[16:35:28] <Izaya> yeah I think I need to clean the heatsink
L574[16:35:32] <dequbed> Izaya: What does WOLF do?
L575[16:35:34] <Izaya> then I can run it f a s t again
L576[16:38:33] <Izaya> It adds a flight recorder and it looks to be glue between resource mods
L577[16:40:58] <Amanda> Izaya: do I need antennas to stay in remote control range for stuff on kerbin?
L578[16:41:17] <Izaya> on kerbin? I don't think so
L579[16:41:31] <Izaya> with a T1 DSN you might have to worry about the mun and minmus
L580[16:42:22] <Izaya> time for food
L581[16:53:30] <Amanda> Izaya: so, answer: The balloons pop around 10km
L582[16:54:16] <Forec​aster> well crap... I've scavenged an entire outpost
L583[16:54:26] <Forec​aster> and my ship is now too heavy to take off...
L584[16:54:54] <Izaya> that's ... convenient?
L585[16:56:30] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L586[16:56:31] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 51 minutes and 12 seconds (By 20 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L587[16:56:32] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.014 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.1751, Position #1
L588[16:57:20] <Forec​aster> this ship even has 5 small hydrogen thrusters on the bottom and it still can't take off
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L590[16:59:29] <Amanda> Izaya: shame that the SCANtron needs at least 20k
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L592[16:59:48] <Amanda> otherwise: kOS script + some retro-thrusters to scan the planet. :P
L593[17:00:38] <Forec​aster> what to do...
L594[17:00:48] <Forec​aster> I guess strap more thrusters on the ship
L595[17:01:12] <Amanda> MOAR THRUSTARZ
L596[17:01:54] <Vampyre> k, done for the day, the code has stared in my soul enough... I lost all trace of sanity
L597[17:06:39] <Vampyre> k... Navalny got balls... he's heading back to Moscow in a plane as we speak
L598[17:06:45] <Forec​aster> can't find a good spot for large atmospheric thrusters...
L599[17:09:05] <bad at​ vijya> i need to bley more ksp
L600[17:09:14] <bad at​ vijya> play out of sandbox
L601[17:09:25] <bad at​ vijya> do stupid fun stuff
L602[17:09:55] <bad at​ vijya> like build the MiG-31 in KSP and actually launch a payload into space
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L605[17:23:55] <dequbed> Izaya: Fucking hell the amount of science you get on easy mode is way too insane.
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L607[17:30:28] <Forec​aster> wellp, I added 4 hydrogen thrusters and it flies, but only while I have ice...
L608[17:30:34] <Forec​aster> so now I'm mining ice
L609[17:31:53] <Amanda> I seem to have broken KSP by loading the tracking centre with nothing in progress
L610[18:18:22] <Amanda> Orbit! :D
L611[18:21:44] <Amanda> ... fuck
L612[18:22:50] <bad at​ vijya> i need to figure out how to kOS
L613[18:23:16] <bad at​ vijya> so i can make my fancy tiny comsats go into orbit when i launch them from the high atmosphere
L614[18:26:23] <Amanda> Have to revert, becausein my flailing to get a screenshow,I fucked up and skipped a stage,so now Jeb's trapped in space
L615[18:30:04] <Shuud​oushi> oof
L616[18:34:26] <Shuud​oushi> I still can't figure out why the vers I set in my user add script isn"t being picked up by the libs correctly...
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L618[18:36:14] <Shuud​oushi> yosh
L619[18:47:02] <Forec​aster> dammit
L620[18:47:05] <Amanda> hahaha! I am orbit again, in this new timeline!
L621[18:47:17] <Forec​aster> trying to take out a carrier with hand weapons isn't working very well...
L622[18:47:27] <Amanda> this time I'm not goingto try and take a screenshow to prove it, because I can't figure out what scrot wants to take a screenshot of a window
L623[18:47:44] <Forec​aster> sniping turrets on a moving target is very difficult without getting shot
L624[18:47:46] <dequbed> Amanda: scrot -s and then click in the window :p
L625[18:50:23] <dequbed> Izaya: https://i.imgur.com/ZKkIzY7.png spiss stition!
L626[18:50:56] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L627[18:50:56] <MichiBot> Yikes! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 54 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L628[18:50:57] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 54 minutes and 25 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00191 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.00335 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L629[18:51:14] <Forec​aster> psh, position 4 >:
L630[18:52:13] <bad at​ vijya> today in test aircraft: the Firefox https://tinyurl.com/y4st5w8q
L631[18:52:40] <Amanda> There: https://nc.ddna.co/s/3oaFerNd7ibAqfB
L632[18:56:33] <dequbed> Amanda: \o/
L633[18:56:44] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yxns7go2
L634[18:56:48] <Amanda> Now, to get Jeb home
L635[18:57:02] <Amanda> sdfmsldfmsdfsdf
L636[18:57:06] <Amanda> I hit space again!
L637[18:57:59] <Amanda> at least this time it was after the deorbit burn
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L639[19:00:23] <Forec​aster> hrm
L640[19:00:45] <Forec​aster> after giving up on assaulting the carrier I ran out of hydrogen and had to run back to the ship
L641[19:00:48] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y2vruyy8
L642[19:00:53] <Forec​aster> I can't get into it...
L643[19:06:34] <Amanda> ... I'm not sure Jeb's going to survive re-entry...
L644[19:08:05] <Amanda> seems the worst of it's gone by, guess we'll see
L645[19:08:21] <bad at​ vijya> do ruddervators work in KSP i wonder
L646[19:10:43] <Forec​aster> I made it back home!
L647[19:10:57] <Forec​aster> used the little grinder drone I had to lift me up to the ship
L648[19:15:00] <bad at​ vijya> i love it when my plane spins out of control on takeoff
L649[19:15:05] <20​kdc> @bad at vijya I think yes actually, or if not those something like them
L650[19:15:13] <bad at​ vijya> IT'S SPINNING
L651[19:15:14] <bad at​ vijya> ON THE RUNWAY
L652[19:15:21] <bad at​ vijya> WITHOUT ANY ENGINE POWER
L653[19:15:51] <bad at​ vijya> also nice @20kdc
L654[19:16:10] <bad at​ vijya> i might as well just cut my losses and try to make the YF-23 tbh
L655[19:16:56] <bad at​ vijya> or something like it, at least
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L657[19:27:22] <Forec​aster> hrm
L658[19:27:32] <Forec​aster> there's no way to rain a hydrogen tank...
L659[19:27:36] <Forec​aster> that's unfortunate
L660[19:29:20] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yyer8v2h
L661[19:30:41] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y6z9jn7z
L662[19:30:57] <bad at​ vijya> think i need to make the tail bigger
L663[19:32:51] <Ariri> Amanda, do we have a certain gamemode we are all playing yet, or just mod testing atm?
L664[19:33:12] <dequbed> Ariri: Science on easiest difficulty but with KerbNet activated
L665[19:33:34] <dequbed> No wait. Career? The one with both science and funds
L666[19:33:51] <Amanda> Career is what I'm on
L667[19:34:18] <Amanda> Thought funds don't really seem to be a problem
L668[19:34:26] <Ariri> Is KerbNet the Comm network>
L669[19:34:26] <Ariri> ?
L670[19:34:30] <dequbed> On easy nothing is a problem <.<
L671[19:34:31] <dequbed> Yes
L672[19:34:58] <Forec​aster> oh, apparently if you set a tank to stockpile and grind it down below functional, and then back up it drains hydrogen from other tanks
L673[19:35:00] <Forec​aster> weird
L674[19:35:25] <bad at​ vijya> in a funny turn of events
L675[19:35:32] <bad at​ vijya> it can do supermaneuverability
L676[19:35:36] <Ariri> So I'm running the spacerace.ckan pack on KSP 1.11 with easy and kerbnet
L677[19:35:42] <Ariri> Seems simple enough
L678[19:36:43] <bad at​ vijya> 🦀 i can PSM in my YF-23 clone
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L680[19:46:40] <Ariri> Is there like life support or comms stuff I have to worry about that's not in stock?
L681[19:46:54] <Ariri> It's been a very long time
L682[19:48:25] <dequbed> No life support so cheat to your hearts content :p
L683[19:49:59] <Ariri> I prefer the term 'rigorous Kerbal capability testing'
L684[19:50:38] <bad at​ vijya> am i able to redout/gloc my kerbals
L685[19:50:42] <bad at​ vijya> that's the more important question
L686[19:51:23] <Ariri> I don't think so, but I've yet to go above 10Gs
L687[19:51:35] <bad at​ vijya> i'm not using your modpack but
L688[19:51:39] <i develo​p things> well
L689[19:51:41] <bad at​ vijya> i'm just casually doing 30Gs
L690[19:51:59] <i develo​p things> i figured out why my desktop didn't like booting
L691[19:52:08] <i develo​p things> my HDD's broken power connector finally gave out
L692[19:52:13] <bad at​ vijya> nice
L693[19:52:14] <i develo​p things> as a plus i think it makes loading times faster
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L700[20:29:46] <Michiyo> Inventories are dumb.
L701[20:31:26] <dequbed> Izaya: Somethings fucky with the modpack. The game appears to sometimes forget my apoapsis heigh <.<
L702[20:33:04] <Michiyo> Slot 1 not in valid range - [0,1)
L703[20:33:08] <Michiyo> What. The. Fuck.
L704[20:33:36] <Michiyo> Did I set 1=2 somewhere?
L705[20:33:58] <Michiyo> Ah, right there it is. Right beside true=false
L706[20:34:08] * Michiyo jumps off a bridge
L707[20:34:11] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L708[20:34:12] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 1 hour, 54 minutes and 25 seconds this time. 1 hour, 43 minutes and 15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 11 minutes and 9 seconds!
L709[20:44:48] <CompanionCube> Izaya: Skye: 'I didn't say your life wasn't valuable, I said it was less valuable.' as of today this is a real quote someone said on TV to a cancer patient
L710[20:55:01] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Sounds like a tory
L711[20:55:14] <CompanionCube> technically no
L712[20:55:41] <CompanionCube> the self-description is conservative neo-liberal libertarian'
L713[20:55:58] <dequbed> So... a tory.
L714[20:57:26] <Izaya> no such thing as a neoliberal in a recession
L715[20:57:45] <Izaya> dequbed: bigge space station
L716[20:57:47] <bad at​ vijya> haha phantom go woosh https://tinyurl.com/y42khj6x
L717[20:58:01] <dequbed> Izaya: Not really actually; 1.25m
L718[20:58:17] <Izaya> huh
L719[20:58:21] <CompanionCube> it's this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Sumption,_Lord_Sumption
L720[20:58:41] <CompanionCube> former justice of the supreme court ;(
L721[20:58:55] <Izaya> I have some yard work to do before it rains, back in 40 minutes
L722[20:58:57] <Izaya> :)
L723[20:59:05] <dequbed> :D
L724[20:59:43] <ThePi​Guy24> when can we remove the house of lords
L725[20:59:58] <ThePi​Guy24> their only purpose it to make the country worse
L726[21:16:37] <SquidDev> Except that it's not?
L727[21:17:40] <SquidDev> It's blocked a tonne of problematic legislation in the last 10 years. There's lots of sensible people in there, but also a fair number of twerps.
L728[21:18:53] <SquidDev> Obviously an unelected house is not great, but if you look at what the elected house does, I have fewer complaints.
L729[21:19:12] <Shuud​oushi> @payonel you actually there?
L730[21:19:32] <pay​onel> not really 🙂
L731[21:20:01] <Shuud​oushi> What changed in the term lib to completely butt fuck SoS?
L732[21:20:23] <Shuud​oushi> So much stuff broken to hell x.x
L733[21:33:19] <Amanda> Does ksp let you rebind the next stage button to a mouse button? It's kinda infuriating having to start a launch from the beginning because I hit the biggest key on my keyboard
L734[21:33:57] <Shuud​oushi> Yes, especially if you don't mind editing the config file directly
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L757[21:36:21] <Shuud​oushi> Snap
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L763[21:36:38] <Amanda> %blame Inari somehow
L764[21:36:38] * MichiBot blames Inari somehow for certain comic book heroes dying and coming back, and dying again
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L767[21:37:26] <Shuud​oushi> @Amanda lol
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L772[21:39:18] <Amanda> %remindme 30m look into changing next stage button to next on mouse
L773[21:39:19] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "look into changing next stage button to next on mouse" at 01/17/2021 10:09:18 PM
L774[21:39:52] <Amanda> Maybe middle click, then make next/prev max/min throttle
L775[21:40:18] <Amanda> Anyway, rain box time
L776[21:41:17] <Shuud​oushi> I don't think KSP likes you using the next/prev buttons... But it's also been a long time
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L779[21:43:56] <Shuud​oushi> @payonel fr tho, the hell is proper Syntex for term.read() when using a pwchar?
L780[21:44:19] <Shuud​oushi> It's driving me up a wall man x.x
L781[21:45:52] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y6ey3q6c
L782[21:47:23] <pay​onel> @Shuudoushi i recommend using {pwchar='*'}
L783[21:47:30] <pay​onel> term.read({pwchar='*'})
L784[21:47:31] <pay​onel> iirc
L785[21:47:33] <pay​onel> 🙂
L786[21:47:37] <ThePi​Guy24> ah yes
L787[21:47:40] <pay​onel> afk for now
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L790[22:09:19] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: look into changing next stage button to next on mouse
L791[22:19:45] <bad at​ vijya> pinephone soon
L792[22:22:39] <Vexatos> where's firphone
L793[22:22:58] <Forec​aster> phonecone
L794[22:23:39] <ThePi​Guy24> spinefone
L795[22:29:45] <Amanda> Izaya: zlib 42% 3.0G 7.1G 7.1G dayum
L796[22:30:01] <Izaya> compressing KSP?
L797[22:30:06] <Amanda> yup
L798[22:30:10] <Izaya> that's nothing
L799[22:31:19] <Izaya> oh, some of it got recompressed
L800[22:31:21] <Izaya> most inconvenient
L801[22:31:43] <Izaya> anyway, yeah, ARK was 7.5x smaller when compressed with zstd
L802[22:32:50] <ThePi​Guy24> it mostly depends on how badly the game was optimised
L803[22:33:01] <Izaya> it does help
L804[22:33:37] <Izaya> in lots of my favourite sorts of games they have a bunch specified in plain text files
L805[22:35:29] <Va​ur> %tonk
L806[22:35:29] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 54 minutes and 25 seconds (By 6 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L807[22:35:30] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 1 minute and 17 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00022 (0.00011 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L808[22:35:47] <Va​ur> %tonkleaders
L809[22:35:47] <MichiBot> Va​ur: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L810[22:38:21] <bad at​ vijya> i should compress my games
L811[22:38:40] <Izaya> I need to split my games drive into two partitions
L812[22:39:09] <Izaya> one for btrfs, for games that are badly done
L813[22:39:14] <Izaya> and one for ext4, for games that make sense
L814[22:40:12] <dequbed> Izaya: Oh also I didn't know if we're doing Mun or Minmus first so I did both. On the same flight ;) https://i.imgur.com/DvA7p1e.png
L815[22:40:33] <Izaya> that's a lot of conics
L816[22:40:54] <dequbed> It's a complicated mission because the rocket doesn't have the dV without Mun gravity assists :D
L817[22:42:29] <bad at​ vijya> i need to clean all the random crap out of my 3TB drive
L818[22:50:23] <bad at​ vijya> ah yes
L819[22:50:31] <bad at​ vijya> already cleaned out 400+GB
L820[22:51:44] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/16a18f96bfbdcb55ad4411f3627fd068474e6d40dbb06390c23d48945bc91024.webm
L821[22:53:07] <bad at​ vijya> finally
L822[22:53:12] <bad at​ vijya> i can merge both drives together
L823[22:53:15] <bad at​ vijya> well
L824[22:53:16] <bad at​ vijya> partitions
L825[22:53:26] <bad at​ vijya> and then i can start compressing games
L826[22:53:27] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L827[22:56:59] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yygrbapa
L828[22:58:20] <Izaya> neat
L829[22:58:28] <Izaya> the OG space shuttle engines were controlled by a 68k
L830[22:59:47] <Izaya> oh.
L831[22:59:52] <Izaya> That's why my CPU is heating up so much.
L832[22:59:58] <Izaya> Fan is unplugged.
L833[23:00:03] <Amanda> oops
L834[23:00:47] <Izaya> noticed the fan wasn't running
L835[23:00:49] <Amanda> Right, let's see how this goes.
L836[23:00:50] <bad at​ vijya> nice
L837[23:00:59] <bad at​ vijya> cool, winbtrfs supports zstd compression
L838[23:01:12] <ThePi​Guy24> tfw when your pc is accidentally passively(ish) cooled :p
L839[23:01:25] <bad at​ vijya> i did that once
L840[23:01:27] <bad at​ vijya> with a Q6600
L841[23:01:32] <bad at​ vijya> it ran for hours
L842[23:01:36] <bad at​ vijya> playinv vijya
L843[23:01:38] <Amanda> oh, it's the VAB that needs upgrading to be able to make >30 part rockets
L844[23:01:41] <bad at​ vijya> *playing
L845[23:01:48] <Izaya> right, time to fix this
L846[23:01:50] <Izaya> x_x
L847[23:02:02] <Izaya> I suspect it got moved out of the thingo by the heating and cooling
L848[23:02:09] <bad at​ vijya> izaya rn:
L849[23:02:12] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yxhems9a
L850[23:02:12] <Izaya> poetic
L851[23:04:19] <bad at​ vijya> transparent compression is nice
L852[23:04:35] <bad at​ vijya> i really need to make foxfs happen so i can have the comfy transparent compression and transparent encryption
L853[23:04:44] <bad at​ vijya> but how i do transparent encryption will be
L854[23:04:45] <bad at​ vijya> harder
L855[23:05:46] <Izaya> well
L856[23:05:52] <Izaya> in a surprise to nobody
L857[23:06:09] <Izaya> chinesium CPU cooler has failed me
L858[23:06:20] <Izaya> only one fan is working now
L859[23:07:49] <bad at​ vijya> nice
L860[23:08:07] <Izaya> guess I'm ordering new fand
L861[23:09:50] <Izaya> fuckin
L862[23:09:55] <Izaya> glad I wasn't running it overclocked
L863[23:09:57] <Izaya> lmao
L864[23:10:15] <Izaya> forced the working fan to full speed in the BIOS
L865[23:10:58] <bad at​ vijya> i love how
L866[23:11:01] <bad at​ vijya> for the longest time
L867[23:11:07] <bad at​ vijya> i wanted to overclock
L868[23:11:15] <bad at​ vijya> but now, i can do it, and i just
L869[23:11:16] <bad at​ vijya> don't
L870[23:13:59] <bad at​ vijya> how do i use github actions to build zorya neo
L871[23:14:01] <bad at​ vijya> 🤔
L872[23:14:39] <Izaya> 80mm fans
L873[23:14:42] <Izaya> what do
L874[23:14:45] <Izaya> get generics?
L875[23:15:00] <i develo​p things> f@#$ youtube ads tbh
L876[23:15:09] <Izaya> youtube has ads?
L877[23:15:09] <i develo​p things> i keep getting ads for grammarly in the middle of videos
L878[23:15:19] <dequbed> Izaya: have you considered water cooling
L879[23:15:19] <i develo​p things> yeah
L880[23:15:39] <i develo​p things> i have a youtube ad blocker but it doesn't prevent them from interrupting my video, just from playing
L881[23:15:56] * Izaya gives idevelopthings mpv
L882[23:15:58] <ThePi​Guy24> i got a 5 pack of Arctic F8's for pretty cheap, good fans for a good price imo
L883[23:16:14] <i develo​p things> the in-browser playback is nice tbh
L884[23:16:19] <i develo​p things> makes it so i don't have to think
L885[23:16:29] <Izaya> click video in RSS reader
L886[23:16:31] <Izaya> open in mpv
L887[23:16:31] <i develo​p things> i guess i could get an external client but the ones i've tried are usually meh
L888[23:16:34] <Izaya> no thinking involved
L889[23:16:39] <Izaya> B)
L890[23:16:44] <Izaya> just consoom
L891[23:16:51] <i develo​p things> fair
L892[23:16:53] <dequbed> OBEY
L893[23:17:07] <i develo​p things> do these RSS readers support things like subscriptions and whatnot?
L894[23:17:19] <Izaya> you can get any channel as an RSS feed
L895[23:17:22] <i develo​p things> oh
L896[23:17:25] <i develo​p things> it's per channel?
L897[23:17:28] <dequbed> The RSS is provided by YT based on your subscriptions
L898[23:17:39] <Izaya> you can export your subscriptions I think?
L899[23:17:43] <i develo​p things> neat
L900[23:17:45] <dequbed> What you can't get as RSS is the algorithmic front page but that's cancer anyway.
L901[23:17:49] <i develo​p things> i'll look into it Later™️
L902[23:18:00] <Izaya> dequbed: water cooling is overkill for an 84W processor
L903[23:18:06] <Izaya> and a massive headache
L904[23:18:16] <bad at​ vijya> water cooling is overkill until you get to over 140W
L905[23:18:27] <bad at​ vijya> unless of course you want a quiet computer
L906[23:18:43] <Izaya> what I wouldn't argue with
L907[23:18:46] <Izaya> was a bigger tower cooler
L908[23:18:51] <Izaya> so I could use bigger fans
L909[23:18:54] <Izaya> B)
L910[23:18:55] <dequbed> Izaya: How do you fail to cool 84W with forced air cooling?! <.<
L911[23:19:03] <bad at​ vijya> magic™️
L912[23:19:06] <Izaya> by not forcing the air
L913[23:19:12] <Izaya> neither fan was running
L914[23:19:32] <bad at​ vijya> i remember air cooling my 3GHz Q6600
L915[23:19:37] <bad at​ vijya> on the cooler that came with my PC
L916[23:19:40] <dequbed> I mean 84W is borderline for convection cooling in an ATX case, I give you that.
L917[23:20:08] <Izaya> the case fans did keep it under 100°
L918[23:20:12] <Izaya> which I think is rather impressive
L919[23:20:19] <bad at​ vijya> i feel that
L920[23:20:39] <bad at​ vijya> my Q6600 was kept under 100 degree by the case fan
L921[23:20:44] <bad at​ vijya> single fan
L922[23:20:56] <Izaya> I got like, 3 in the front and one in the back
L923[23:21:21] <Izaya> I should get an PCI bracket case fan
L924[23:21:25] <Izaya> s/an/a/
L925[23:21:25] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I should get a PCI bracket case fan
L926[23:21:35] <Izaya> I have 4 unused slots under my graphics card
L927[23:22:08] <Izaya> dequbed: for reference, this is the quality of product we're talking about https://www.banggood.com/-p-1075682.html
L928[23:22:27] <Izaya> looks like it actually uses 90mm fans
L929[23:22:34] <Izaya> who knew there was such a thing
L930[23:23:07] <Izaya> well, the only ones i can source locally are noctuas
L931[23:23:20] <ThePi​Guy24> 80mm close enough;tm:
L932[23:23:30] <bad at​ vijya> ah yes
L933[23:23:36] <ThePi​Guy24> %s/;tm:/™️/
L934[23:23:37] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> 80mm close enough™️
L935[23:23:38] <bad at​ vijya> banggood generic cooler
L936[23:23:44] <Amanda> :D SCANsat in orbit! Should probably circularise it some more though
L937[23:24:05] <Izaya> all things considered
L938[23:24:09] <Izaya> I'm not disappointed with it
L939[23:24:23] <dequbed> @"i develop things" ew they changed it again. Now you have to go through https://takeout.google.com/takeout/custom/youtube
L940[23:24:23] <Izaya> not sure I got the 30,000 hour lifetime though
L941[23:24:34] <i develo​p things> rip
L942[23:24:46] <Izaya> actually no
L943[23:24:52] <Izaya> I think I got the expected lifetime
L944[23:25:01] <Izaya> 3 and a half years gives me about 30k hours
L945[23:25:04] <dequbed> Izaya: Also ew. And that page straight up doesn't load for me until I kick it in the head a few times.
L946[23:25:27] <Izaya> dequbed: $15 for a surprisingly competent tower cooler
L947[23:25:29] <Izaya> I'm not mad
L948[23:26:22] <Izaya> I need some of those rubber spacers that go in screw holes too
L949[23:26:28] <Izaya> because uh
L950[23:26:31] <Izaya> these fans used to scrape on the heatsink
L951[23:26:38] <dequbed> Izaya: tower cooler with added feature of fire starter?
L952[23:26:54] <Izaya> dequbed: dude it's worked for 3 and a half years without issue
L953[23:27:08] <Izaya> $15
L954[23:27:09] <dequbed> > surprisingly competent > blades scrape
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L956[23:27:18] <Izaya> $15
L957[23:28:09] <dequbed> is $18 US and I would not be willing to pay $18 for that much of a crummy fan.
L958[23:28:16] <Izaya> idk what to tell you I'm quite happy with my purchase
L959[23:28:36] <Izaya> I wouldn't expect this level of "quality" from what I can source locally for similar prices.
L960[23:29:05] <Amanda> There, 80-75km orbit, scanning Kerbin now. :D
L961[23:30:01] <bad at​ vijya> man
L962[23:30:10] <bad at​ vijya> i need to get into 3d modeling so i can model my cool superplane
L963[23:31:24] <dequbed> Izaya: I bought my fan 10 years ago and it's still at rated output and it never scraped. Did cost double but it's cooling 120W down as well.
L964[23:32:03] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L965[23:32:20] <bad at​ vijya> i just got a dual fan water cooler so when i move my server into another room
L966[23:32:27] <bad at​ vijya> my room will be super quiet when i bley vijya
L967[23:32:33] <bad at​ vijya> super overkill for my 105W CPU
L968[23:32:41] <Izaya> dequbed: what do you want me to say
L969[23:32:44] <Izaya> fuck
L970[23:33:15] <dequbed> Izaya: Nothing I just feel bad how content you are with buying shitty chinesium that breaks way to quickly and suffer your goddamned life for it.
L971[23:33:39] <Izaya> dequbed: my budget was $15 and the alternative was an intel stock cooler
L972[23:33:57] <dequbed> Fix your budget.
L973[23:34:00] <Izaya> I have
L974[23:34:10] <Izaya> and now I'm going to replace the fans with something nice
L975[23:34:19] <dequbed> Good then rip out all the bad chinesium in your life and be happy ffs.
L976[23:34:41] <Izaya> but the heatsink is fine so I won't bother replacing that until I replace the board/CPU/memory
L977[23:34:59] <dequbed> Sure that's fine but at least get some decent fucking fans
L978[23:35:37] <Amanda> Okay, the random wilhelm screams was kinda amusing at first, now it's just a bit annoying. Podcasts while I idlescan it is
L979[23:35:52] <Izaya> I'm mildly amused that you're more mad about my chinesium breaking than I am
L980[23:36:07] <Amanda> Or maybe I should find a video tutorial or something on how to get started with a station, I never got that far
L981[23:36:12] <Izaya> alright computer nerds does this look suitable https://www.umart.com.au/Noctua-92mm-NF-A9x14-PWM-2200RPM-Fan_22821G.html
L982[23:36:21] <dequbed> Izaya: I'm not mad I'm sorry you fuck.
L983[23:36:44] * Amanda replaces all of Inari's tireds with awakes
L984[23:37:47] <dequbed> Izaya: Buy it and then go yell at them because it doesn't do 1.64 Megameter of H2O barometic pressure as they claim it does :p
L985[23:39:19] <dequbed> Izaya: Anyway, looks decent. Is 92mm really the right size? o.O
L986[23:39:49] <Izaya> I'll measure it later, but as far as I can tell, yes
L987[23:40:25] <Izaya> the alternative is a lower RPM one
L988[23:40:42] <dequbed> Is the cooler actually copper or some cheap metal with copper surface?
L989[23:41:05] <dequbed> As in the heatsink, specifically the tubey bits
L990[23:41:07] <Izaya> I didn't break open the heat pipes to check, sorry
L991[23:41:20] <dequbed> If you scratch them and they go silvery they are cheapo;
L992[23:41:42] <dequbed> If you scratch them and they go light gray they may be alumininium
L993[23:41:46] <Izaya> I do know that with both fans operating and the CPU under load it never goes above 50° with a clean heatsink
L994[23:42:00] <Izaya> so exactly what they are doesn't bother me
L995[23:43:12] <Izaya> the alternative is this one https://www.umart.com.au/Noctua-92mm-NF-B9-Redux-Edition-PWM-Fan_28285G.html
L996[23:43:18] <Izaya> which is thicker but slower
L997[23:43:22] <Izaya> almost the same static pressure
L998[23:43:36] <Izaya> might be quieter?
L999[23:43:39] * Izaya shrugs
L1000[23:43:44] <dequbed> Barometic pressure doesn't matter since you have little impedance on flow
L1001[23:43:55] <dequbed> m^3/h is the magic number
L1002[23:44:15] <dequbed> in this case 50.5 vs 64.3 m^3/h
L1003[23:44:28] <Izaya> cheaper and thicker it is
L1004[23:45:45] <dequbed> Also apparently quieter because Noctua specifies the first with 18.8 dB(A) and the latter with 17.9 dB(A)
L1005[23:45:59] <dequbed> s/17.9/17.1
L1006[23:45:59] <MichiBot> <dequbed> Also apparently quieter because Noctua specifies the first with 18.8 dB(A) and the latter with 17.1 dB(A)
L1007[23:46:32] <Izaya> slower and larger surface
L1008[23:46:33] <Izaya> so it makes sense
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