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L2[00:01:59] <Sammy> j
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L4[00:04:07] <Forec​aster> heh
L5[00:04:12] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y2lsx4jq
L6[00:04:34] <Forec​aster> breaking into and hijacking an npc supply ship mid-flight is pretty satisfying
L7[00:05:05] <Forec​aster> that's my little flier I landed on it with on the right wing
L8[00:05:54] <Forec​aster> I'm lucky the gattling turret on top didn't actually shoot at me unless I got too close (for some reason) because my flier is completely unarmed
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L12[00:21:56] <dequbed> Amanda: https://paranoidlabs.org/xmpp/files/60ec897e466daa051904a3b49dd12b02d5aa91a4/qkqFtRNtqoFRRUte0IuoS6lZcnWTFj2H0NQCYHvL/2021-01-16_01.20.04.png Flat is done. Do you want the one with more windows or the larger one? :p
L13[00:25:12] <Vampyre> mornin
L14[00:25:26] <Vampyre> %drink coffee
L15[00:25:26] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L16[00:25:55] <Forec​aster> those don't exist, mornings are just a myth
L17[00:26:12] <Vampyre> well, it's 01:25
L18[00:26:27] <Vampyre> mornings are times when I wake up, whatever the time is ;-)
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L20[00:53:58] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L21[00:54:00] <MichiBot> Huzzah! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 48 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L22[00:54:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 48 minutes and 8 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0048 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.00243 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L23[00:56:09] <Forec​aster> @Ariri why don't you mention me properly? :P
L24[01:09:00] <Ko​dos> %sip
L25[01:09:01] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe yellow potion (New!). Kodos loses exactly a handful of luck.
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L27[01:36:12] <Ar​iri> I don’t like mentioning for something that isn’t important or time sensitive ::
L28[01:36:17] <Ar​iri> :|
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L32[02:04:32] <Ar​iri> Izaya: https://www.reddit.com/r/Animemes/comments/ky82ji/thats_much_better/
L33[02:14:11] <Kristo​pher38> @Wattana damn, I was using the second one instead of the first one this whole time https://tinyurl.com/y5mnf8rx
L34[02:14:21] <Kristo​pher38> the difference is tremendous
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L36[02:44:55] <Izaya> Ariri: the ideal outcome
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L40[03:36:42] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, loses cohesion, turning into a pile of floof
L41[03:36:48] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L45[04:33:21] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=exeteres.oc-ts
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L51[05:47:27] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L52[05:47:27] <MichiBot> Fudge! Compan​ionCube! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 48 minutes and 8 seconds (By 5 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L53[05:47:28] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.13175. Position #2 => #1 (Overtook Vaur)
L54[06:40:25] <CompanionCube> %sip
L55[06:40:26] <MichiBot> You drink a molten pear potion (New!). It tastes sour.
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L61[08:50:37] <Michiyo> I hate containers.
L62[08:50:39] <Michiyo> I hate Forge
L63[08:50:44] <Michiyo> I hate Minecraft.
L64[08:52:26] <Inari> Noice
L65[08:52:43] <Inari> Wonder if anyone will ever make a good minecraft alternative or forge competitor :)
L66[08:57:31] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L67[08:57:32] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 10 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L68[08:57:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 10 minutes and 4 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00317 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook ThePiGuy24) Need 0.03463 more points to pass Va​ur!
L69[09:02:41] <Vampyre> can I also add extending scala classes with java classes to things to hate? ;-)
L70[09:08:18] <Michiyo> Yes, yes you can
L71[09:08:33] <Michiyo> I don't get it. I copied the container and TE from my OTHER container
L72[09:08:34] <Michiyo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/ogatumiraq.hs
L73[09:12:06] <Michiyo> the only difference between the 2 containers is the slot type, which is ALSO a copy paste with different accepted items.
L74[09:12:36] <Michiyo> and the TE which they are tied to. If I remove the code that adds my slots it works... without my slots of course, but I can't find the issue in the slot class either <_<
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L77[09:16:59] <Michiyo> I guess I'm going to have to tell Forecaster I can't do it.
L78[09:17:34] <Vampyre> you nerdsniped me with that error, am now trying to find out what SlotItemHandler.func_75211_c does on line 73 ;-)
L79[09:17:53] <Vampyre> better then staring at scala and not understanding fuckall of it
L80[09:18:34] <Michiyo> Like.. I've implemented containers in my other mods with little issue.. just this one is kicking my face in
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L83[09:22:36] <Michiyo> It's really annoying because the only reference to my code is in the block method that opens the GUI
L84[09:24:45] <Vampyre> func_75211_c is aparently SlotItemHandler.getStack(), if that already helps a bit
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L87[09:43:06] <Z​ef> https://tinyurl.com/y39b8xu7
L88[09:43:12] <Z​ef> I was messing around with ibm basic a little
L89[09:43:56] <Z​ef> Hoping that it'll open up my sights and help me learn other languages like c and 8088 assembly
L90[09:48:21] <Vampyre> Michiyo, just to be sure, is that 1.12.2 ?
L91[09:48:37] <Michiyo> Yeah
L92[09:48:47] <Vampyre> ok
L93[09:51:20] <Michiyo> Really wish I could get OpenSec to run in my IDE's debug
L94[09:51:39] <Michiyo> but the dependency hell from the mod interop makes that impossible
L95[09:55:10] <Michiyo> Oh, right... I commited this https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/commit/1cccfd67cfd81080f22baffaab28fe69bb992158
L96[10:02:10] <Michiyo> bleh, it's 2AM I need to sleep
L97[10:02:27] <Ar​iri> Same
L98[10:02:32] <Michiyo> Vampyre, thanks for taking a look, if you have any ideas I'll take a look in about 20 hours. lol
L99[10:02:40] <Michiyo> (I wish it'll likely be about 6
L100[10:02:42] <Michiyo> )
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L104[10:12:18] <rockets> hell?
L105[10:12:22] <rockets> hello?
L106[10:12:36] <rockets> Neo
L107[10:13:14] <rockets> @Lizzy
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L109[10:54:00] <Vampyre> ok, Michiyo, I might be completely off here, but so far I found it has something to do with setting a localized string in a GUI, specificially the container.crafting localized string fails?
L110[10:54:45] <Vampyre> I'm not sure if this makes any sense in regard to what you are doing though
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L113[11:18:37] <Izaya> %p
L114[11:18:39] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Iz​aya 0.53s
L115[11:19:06] <Izaya> Ended up bind mounting the anbox data dir into my home directory, creating a group to match the GID of the user in the container, and adding myself to it
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L119[12:00:44] <nu​ll> %p
L120[12:00:45] <MichiBot> nu​ll: Sorry. You can't get your ping from over a bridge. You can ping irc users by passing one or more as arguments.
L121[12:00:56] <Vampyre> Michiyo, maybe scratch all the things above, this can happen if you call SlotItemHandler() without an itemhandler or maybe with a wrong index
L122[12:01:03] <Vampyre> Would that maybe make sense?
L123[12:01:16] <nu​ll> %help
L124[12:01:17] <MichiBot> nu​ll: Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L125[12:01:28] <Vampyre> might be all red herrings that I find, I dunno
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L128[12:06:43] <nu​ll> hi DBotThePony
L129[12:07:08] <DBotThePony> ?
L130[12:07:48] <Optional o​pt = null;> what are you concerned about?
L131[12:07:59] <Optional o​pt = null;> I just said hi
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L134[12:10:25] <Va​ur> %tonk
L135[12:10:25] <MichiBot> Blast! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 3 hours, 10 minutes and 4 seconds (By 2 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L136[12:10:26] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 12 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0002 (0.00005 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00079 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L137[12:10:35] <Forec​aster> dangit
L138[12:10:40] <Va​ur> lol
L139[12:10:46] <Va​ur> were you about to tonk ?
L140[12:11:02] <Forec​aster> no, I'm working :|
L141[12:11:11] <Optional o​pt = null;> %tonk
L142[12:11:44] <Optional o​pt = null;> why doesn't it work
L143[12:11:49] <Optional o​pt = null;> %tonk
L144[12:11:53] <Forec​aster> read the message
L145[12:13:49] <Vampyre> I think we're out of options here
L146[12:14:28] <Forec​aster> what
L147[12:14:37] <dequbed> Izaya: CDU voted for a new party leader (they voted the medium bad guy in). But more importantly, voting was considered closed "when there were no more people calling the support-hotline".
L148[12:18:31] <dequbed> @null / @"Optional opt = null;" please don't ping random people if you don't want to talk to them. That's rather rude.
L149[12:19:34] <Forec​aster> Corded converted both of those into his actual name, nice
L150[12:19:55] <Forec​aster> or well, current nickname
L151[12:20:06] <dequbed> So I can just use old nicknames?
L152[12:20:59] <Forec​aster> in this case "null" is his actual username, and "Optional opt = null;" is a local nickname
L153[12:21:14] <dequbed> ah okay
L154[12:21:48] <Forec​aster> I'd guess "Optional etc" would stop working if he changed the nickname again
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L156[12:22:44] <Forecaster> @ThisIsANickname this should work
L157[12:22:51] <ThisIsA​Nickname> yep
L158[12:23:05] <Forecaster> @ThisIsANickname but now it probably wont
L159[12:23:15] <Forec​aster> oh, it did, nice
L160[12:23:31] <Vexatos> dequbed, could have been worse™
L161[12:23:31] <Forec​aster> so corded keeps track of old nicknames, at least for a while
L162[12:23:41] <Forec​aster> maybe it's the api that handles that stuff
L163[12:23:50] <dequbed> Vexatos: As I said, medium bad guy
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L166[12:24:08] <Vexatos> I actually know like nothing about that guy
L167[12:24:14] <dequbed> Laschet?
L168[12:24:15] <Vexatos> which is probably good news
L169[12:29:04] <dequbed> Armin "We can't just listen to the scientists. What if they navigate us into a crisis" Laschet? Armin "Let's open schools that's a good idea" Laschet? Armin "I wear my mask under my nose" Laschet? You must have not being reading news then :P
L170[12:29:53] <Vexatos> that's like 40% of politicians sadly
L171[12:30:30] <dequbed> Laschet is in national comparison *especially* bad.
L172[12:30:41] <Vexatos> spicy
L173[12:30:53] <Vexatos> well good thing he has nothingto say about it
L174[12:31:44] <dequbed> Yes, blind actionism is something all conservatives in Germany have done. But Laschet has so far been the most extreme, the first to back off restrictions, the last to add any whatsoever, the one to ignore scientists the loudest. Also Toennies.
L175[12:32:37] <Vexatos> oh right that was a thing with the guy
L176[12:32:39] <dequbed> Uh... Laschet *is* the Prime Minister of NRW.. He has a lot of things to say about.
L177[12:32:41] <Vexatos> I remember
L178[12:35:40] <dequbed> I mean he's not Friedrich "german Trump" Merz but still.
L179[13:11:46] <Vampyre> ok, Michiyo, last ping, I promise. Both null pointers come from within containers.java from this code: ((Slot)this.inventorySlots.get(i)).getStack() where i is a for variable from 0 to this.inventorySlots.size()
L180[13:13:19] <Vampyre> it is the getStack which will call the SlotItemHandler() which then seems to crash on the null pointer, possibly due to no handler set or a wrong index
L181[13:13:42] <Vampyre> again, not sure if this helps ;-)
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L185[14:27:15] <Optional o​pt = null;> sorry, I didn't think I pinged
L186[14:29:44] <Va​ur> you did, they are on irc
L187[14:52:44] <Amanda> IRC clients tend to let you set random phrases to ping you, most clients default to having the user's nick int hat list
L188[14:53:06] <Amanda> for example elsenet I have ailurophiles in my pings, which people regularly send catpics to
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L194[15:31:09] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonkout
L195[15:31:09] <MichiBot> Awesome! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 12 minutes and 53 seconds (By 7 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L196[15:31:10] <MichiBot> ThePi​Guy24 has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.10139. Position #4 => #3 (Overtook Forecaster) Need 0.02957 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L199[16:23:32] <bauen1> %tonkout
L200[16:23:32] <MichiBot> bau​en1: You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the timer has been reset.
L201[16:25:21] <Wat​tana> hey uh so i encountered a problem with the filesystem api I yoinked from openos
L202[16:25:46] <B​ob> cool and good
L203[16:26:01] <Wat​tana> it apparently cant load large files https://tinyurl.com/yy4x2rr7
L204[16:26:42] <Wat​tana> if I trim down the file size then it works fine
L205[16:26:58] <Wat​tana> are there any workaround for this
L206[16:26:59] <ThePiGuy24> %tell Izaya it returns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRIAnzxm3w
L207[16:26:59] <Wat​tana> are there any workaround for this? [Edited]
L208[16:27:00] <MichiBot> ThePi​Guy24: Izaya will be notified of this message when next seen.
L209[16:27:01] <MichiBot> Ural motorcycle to ATV - part 2: deep snow drive | length: 11m 51s | Likes: 81 Dislikes: 0 Views: 632 | by Garage 54 | Published On 16/1/2021
L210[16:27:54] <B​ob> @Wattana the error just tells you're giving a nil value instead of a function
L211[16:28:01] <B​ob> maybe there's a silent error somewhere else
L212[16:28:12] <B​ob> some functions just return nil and a string describing the error
L213[16:28:16] <Wat​tana> yes but it even occurs when i put a large string into the script
L214[16:28:48] <Wat​tana> this is how the shell is loaded Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/vadaqilopi
L215[16:29:54] <Wat​tana> yikes it indeed have problem loading large files https://tinyurl.com/yy67yyd7
L216[16:29:58] <B​ob> `shellFunc` most likely nil 🤔
L217[16:30:15] <Wat​tana> the shell script actually ends with a commented out code
L218[16:30:22] <Wat​tana> but it's cut off
L219[16:30:32] <Wat​tana> if I trim it down then it reaches the commented out part
L220[16:30:42] <B​ob> tried read("*all") which is the correct way to read everything from a file
L221[16:30:43] <Wat​tana> This is some nasty stuff
L222[16:31:35] <Wat​tana> nope, the file read function expects a number
L223[16:32:00] <B​ob> not only
L224[16:32:38] <Wat​tana> https://tinyurl.com/yyvkxll6
L225[16:32:51] <B​ob> `file:read("*all")` is a Lua thing tho
L226[16:33:02] <Wat​tana> im using filesystem api from openos
L227[16:33:04] <B​ob> wouldn't see why it wouldn't work since OC follows it very closely
L228[16:33:06] <B​ob> well yeah
L229[16:33:57] <Wat​tana> seems `file:read()` uses `filesystem.read`
L230[16:34:26] <ThePi​Guy24> nah it obviously uses gpu.set
L231[16:35:51] <B​ob> using doesn't prevent it to check if it got "*all"
L232[16:56:28] <Wat​tana> @Bob I found a very hacky workaround lol
L233[16:56:55] <Wat​tana> I did exactly what OpenLoader does but replaced component filesystem with the api
L234[16:57:04] <Wat​tana> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/orokugolab
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L236[17:19:31] <B​ob> its not that hacky
L237[17:19:36] <B​ob> it just reads and appends to ab uffer
L238[17:19:43] <B​ob> the only hacky thing is the excessive concatenation
L239[17:19:45] <B​ob> use a table instead
L240[17:19:51] <B​ob> and i would even go as far as to reuse the table
L241[17:20:54] <bauen1> %tonk
L242[17:20:54] <MichiBot> Willikers! bau​en1! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of <0 (By 57 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L243[17:20:55] <MichiBot> bauen1's new record is 57 minutes and 21 seconds! bauen1 also gained 0.00096 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.00389 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L244[17:54:10] <Inari> It's amazing how somehow web video players often still don't manage to not break when you skip around quickly
L245[17:54:57] <Inari> Skip forward twice with the right timing nad it'll be buffering forever
L246[17:54:58] <Inari> :D
L247[17:55:20] <Forec​aster> gotta love when things don't not break
L248[18:02:38] <bauen1> the "modern" web in generall is very ~bug~ feature rich
L249[18:08:01] <Inari> Itjust seems such a common isuse that I'ms urprised it's not yet fixed everywhere
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L252[18:25:09] <Wat​tana> This is progressing a lot faster than I expected https://youtu.be/fhcTruA0oAc
L253[18:25:10] <MichiBot> OCLinux shell/terminal prototype showcase(boring video) | length: 2m 57s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Atirut Wattanamongkol | Published On 16/1/2021
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L255[18:32:24] <Va​ur> %tonk
L256[18:32:25] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Va​ur! You beat bau​en1's previous record of 57 minutes and 21 seconds (By 14 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L257[18:32:26] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 11 minutes and 30 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00024 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00055 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L259[18:39:15] <Izaya> .
L260[18:39:55] <Va​ur> ..
L261[18:40:01] <Michiyo> ...
L262[18:41:08] <dequbed> wb Izaya
L263[18:42:31] <Michiyo> Fucking bleh. I can't figure this out, Forge isn't going to help other than to tell me to update as they don't support old versions. None of the info Vampyre got me any closer...
L264[18:42:42] <Michiyo> @Forecaster I don't think I'm gonna be able to do this man. IDK wtf is wrong
L265[18:42:49] <Michiyo> I tried. sorry.
L266[18:47:40] <Inari> Do what?
L267[18:48:17] <Izaya> I really gotta figure out how to suppress biboumi sending part messages
L268[18:51:00] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: oh no
L269[18:51:01] <Izaya> oh nonono
L270[18:51:19] <ThePiGuy24> ohyes :p
L271[18:53:48] <Forec​aster> maybe ben can help?
L272[18:54:14] <Michiyo> Inari, I was adding some stuff to OpenSecurity to help Forecaster with a thing he's doing. But I seem to have forgotten how to inventory.
L273[18:54:28] <Inari> rip
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L275[18:55:21] <Michiyo> I've copied all of the container and gui code from the card writer, modified the important bits, and it crashes deep within forge. I can't run OpenSec in my IDE anymore cause of all of the mod compat crap either, so I can't really try to catch it.
L276[18:56:06] <Inari> Sonuds like a pain
L277[18:58:10] <Michiyo> I'm going to rip all of this back out of OpenSec, and consider trying it in a new, fresh mod.
L278[18:58:24] <Michiyo> IIRC The way OpenSec does inventory stuff is "wrong" anyway
L279[18:58:46] <Forec​aster> A fresh new mod, or a "Frod", if you will
L280[18:58:47] <Michiyo> since it was ported from 1.7 -> 1.9 -> 1.12, I reused a bunch of the older code when I did the 1.12 port.
L281[18:59:07] <Forec​aster> time for OS2
L282[18:59:08] <Forec​aster> :D
L283[18:59:19] <Michiyo> and inventory crap changed between those versions. it still "worked" but it's not how it's supposed to be done.
L284[18:59:34] <Michiyo> Nope, not re-writing OpenSec.
L285[18:59:39] <Michiyo> nope.
L286[18:59:46] <Forec​aster> heh
L287[18:59:46] * Michiyo shakes her head
L288[19:00:20] <Michiyo> You get a card reader, and a door controller, enjoy OpenSec2
L289[19:00:34] <Michiyo> Not even a card writer, you gotta put data on it with an NBTEditor.
L290[19:00:59] <Forec​aster> "Here's a block of dirt with an inverted texture, that'll do"
L291[19:01:09] <Michiyo> Forecaster++
L292[19:01:09] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Forecaster|AFK now has 2147484668.0 points
L293[19:01:57] <bad at​ vijya> a
L294[19:02:03] <bad at​ vijya> netcode is scary
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L296[19:11:09] <Izaya> hmhm
L297[19:11:22] <Izaya> neighbors are going to start shit over me not killing my garden regularly?
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L299[19:11:28] <Izaya> alright, I'll mow at 6AM on a sunday then
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L302[19:14:27] <dequbed> Izaya: Have you considered telling to fuck right off?
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L304[19:14:49] <Izaya> dequbed: I don't know which neighbors it actually is
L305[19:14:55] <Izaya> but they got the local council on my case
L306[19:15:52] <dequbed> Oh right you have radical "this neighbourhood needs to exactly like X because we love our grey samey samey no fun allowed streets"
L307[19:16:23] <Izaya> suburbia is depressing
L308[19:16:27] <Izaya> this is the shitty part of town, too
L309[19:16:31] <Izaya> why do these people care
L310[19:16:46] <Izaya> me having a nice garden won't reduce your house value you wankers
L311[19:16:52] <Izaya> it's not worth anything either way
L312[19:17:10] <ThePi​Guy24> just mow one strip of grass to be petty
L313[19:17:27] <dequbed> Izaya: Actually technically it does reduce their house value
L314[19:17:38] <ThePi​Guy24> reduces is below 0
L315[19:26:35] <Michiyo> Task 'setupDecompWorkspace' not found in root project 'forge-1.12.2-14.23.5.2854-mdk'.
L316[19:26:38] <Michiyo> fuckin... neat-o
L317[19:26:41] <Michiyo> I quit.
L318[19:30:17] <Forec​aster> did you refresh gradle a million times before? :P
L319[19:35:38] <Michiyo> @Forecaster you get to name this mod.
L320[19:35:42] <Michiyo> so, please name this mod.
L321[19:37:12] <Forec​aster> uuh
L322[19:37:32] <Forec​aster> OpenCargo
L323[19:37:33] <Forec​aster> :P
L324[19:37:35] <Michiyo> "uuh" got it
L325[19:37:59] <Forec​aster> nah, openUuh
L326[19:38:08] <Michiyo> Forecaster++
L327[19:38:09] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Forecaster|AFK now has 2147484669.0 points
L328[19:38:50] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenCargo
L329[19:38:53] <Michiyo> There ya go.
L330[19:38:54] <Michiyo> lol
L331[19:43:33] <Forec​aster> Woul'd have been that out there though
L332[19:43:39] <Forec​aster> there's a mod named "MmmMmmMmmMmm"
L333[19:48:03] <ben_mkiv> wth is openCargo?
L334[19:48:04] <ben_mkiv> xD
L335[19:48:33] <Michiyo> A mod I'm making to implement stuff I was trying to get working in OpenSec but couldn't so I said fuck it.
L336[19:48:56] <ben_mkiv> because i broke your dev environment?
L337[19:49:05] <bad at​ vijya> i should finish my async hdd mod
L338[19:49:06] <bad at​ vijya> but
L339[19:49:10] <bad at​ vijya> that involves effort
L340[19:49:49] * Michiyo bans @"ThePiGuy24"
L341[19:49:58] <ThePiGuy24> :p
L342[19:50:26] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv, not BECAUSE you broke it, but it being broken makes it harder to debug :P
L343[19:50:49] <Michiyo> And it's not so much YOU broke it.
L344[19:51:10] <Michiyo> it's just the dependency hell caused by the overlapping mod requirements
L345[19:51:23] <Michiyo> 2 mods want JEI, @ different versions, so there are 2 JEI jars.
L346[19:51:46] <Michiyo> and other annoying shit like that.
L347[19:55:55] <ThePiGuy24> Izaya: https://i.imgur.com/TkpNh6M.jpg
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L350[20:13:16] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: tfw it's worse than a bike with swamp tires for anything but repetitive ditches
L351[20:13:39] <TPG24> yeah but style++
L352[20:13:54] *** TPG24 is now known as ThePiGuy24
L353[20:32:01] <dequbed> Izaya: https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/The-Snow-Cruiser.jpg
L354[20:34:26] <Izaya> that's a boat on wheels
L355[20:34:37] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: idk man the TW200 is pretty stylish
L356[20:34:39] <dequbed> It's even less useful than that
L357[20:34:51] <Forec​aster> Looks like a vehicle from Homeword
L358[20:34:55] <Izaya> assuming your style is cargo shorts, a shotgun, and a southern USian accent
L359[20:35:16] <Michiyo> Have I mentioned I hate Forge?
L360[20:35:23] <Forec​aster> nope
L361[20:35:44] <dequbed> Izaya: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/8c/65/7b8c65293a77440252f57858ea3a4931.jpg The Snow Cruiser had giant profile-less flotation tires that provided fuckall traction in the antarctic snow for which it was designed :p
L362[20:35:45] <Michiyo> Oh, my bad
L363[20:35:48] <Michiyo> I hate Forge.
L364[20:36:25] <Izaya> dequbed: needs more swamp tires
L365[20:37:02] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L366[20:37:03] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 30 seconds (By 53 minutes and 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L367[20:37:04] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.1352, Position #2 => #1 (Overtook CompanionCube)
L368[20:37:18] <Izaya> oh shit, didn't realise they sell the TW200 here
L369[20:37:21] <Izaya> or even still at all
L370[20:37:23] <Izaya> neat
L371[20:44:45] <Michiyo> Ok, so I guess I'm switching to InteliJ for this mod..
L372[20:44:51] <Michiyo> eclipse shits itself, but InteliJ works fine
L373[20:44:52] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: you forgot the M79 thumper
L374[20:44:55] <Inari> It's better anyway
L375[20:45:30] * Michiyo shrugs
L376[20:45:51] <Michiyo> I've used Eclipse since I started Java dev back with an Lineage II server emu
L377[20:46:06] <Izaya> whoa, that's what that's called
L378[20:46:13] <Inari> Eclipse always felt to me like a steampunk thing. The ones that wobble tons as they operate and feel like they're abotu to fall off. And then you bolt on about 15 other half broken looking components
L379[20:46:20] <Izaya> it's used as the grenade launcher in like every game ever but I've never thought about it
L380[20:49:09] <bad at​ vijya> yeah
L381[20:49:25] <bad at​ vijya> it also was loaded with buckshot (see: ball bearings) at one point
L382[20:49:28] <Izaya> before I mowed this morning
L383[20:49:32] <Izaya> I took the muffler off the mower
L384[20:49:38] <bad at​ vijya> "they can't be in the trees if you obliterate the trees"
L385[20:49:52] <Izaya> I want to make sure my neighbors know I'm razing my garden at their request.
L386[20:51:20] <CompanionCube> flex
L387[20:51:22] <Amanda> Izaya: suddenly: noise complaint "Oh sorry, I was waiting on a replacement part for the mower, the muffler got damaged, but since SOMEBODY wanted it mowed right meow, I guess I have to do without it."
L388[20:51:54] * Izaya nods sagely
L389[20:52:08] <Izaya> I'm just doing what the council requires of me by law.
L390[20:54:54] <Vexatos> why would you mow your own lawn because your neighbors want it
L391[20:54:57] <CompanionCube> sounds like it's got HOA-esqu types in it
L392[20:55:16] <dequbed> Vexatos: Australia, neighbours can complain to the council to force you.
L393[20:55:21] <Vexatos> uh
L394[20:55:21] <Amanda> HOAs are a scurge upon soceity
L395[20:55:26] <Vexatos> australia has grass?
L396[20:55:40] <Michiyo> thought it was all fires, and killer emu.
L397[20:55:45] <dequbed> Australia has rainforest.
L398[20:55:47] <Vexatos> oh right it's january
L399[20:55:51] <Vexatos> it's almost time
L400[20:56:31] <Vexatos> dequbed, council?
L401[20:56:46] <dequbed> Vexatos: Think "Kommune"
L402[20:56:50] <Vexatos> I'd figure they have better things to do than lawn-mowing complaints
L403[20:56:52] <Izaya> bonus points:
L404[20:57:00] <dequbed> Nah, they really don't
L405[20:57:11] <Izaya> you're not allowed to use the footpath, but you are required to maintain it
L406[20:57:19] <Izaya> so I'm thinking I'll poison all the grass so it turns to mud
L407[20:57:32] <Vexatos> what do you mean it wouldn't be a footpath if you're not allowed to walk on it
L408[20:57:42] <Izaya> I'm sure the neighbors will love that when they walk to the bus stop
L409[20:58:16] * CompanionCube remembers the time a local councillor elsewhere in the country wanted to make supporting the EU post-brexit treasnous
L410[20:58:37] <Vexatos> see our property extends up to 10m from the road, but those 10m still have grass on them. We mow it out of courtesy when we feel like it and the town can be thankful .-.
L411[20:58:55] <Vexatos> it's only an extra 10 minutes anyway
L412[20:59:41] <Vexatos> I mean it might be different in a village but I have never heard of such a thing in germany
L413[21:00:21] <CompanionCube> (of course the law he wanted to use is very obsolete and would be an anachronistic restriction on certain things)
L414[21:00:34] <ThePi​Guy24> CC: what a wonderful country we live in
L415[21:00:42] <Vexatos> we mow our lawn whenever we feel like it and my uncle recently bought a scythe to learn it so now we keep one of the fields growing all year and he cuts it in autumn
L416[21:01:01] <Izaya> How tall does your grass get if you leave it alone?
L417[21:01:13] <dequbed> Izaya: Fun fact three states of the federal republic of germernerd there is no good neighbour law which basically means if its structurally sound I can install a several meter high sign right next to the border to your ground reading "MY NEIGHBOUR IS AN ASSHAT" and you can do fuckall about it :P
L418[21:01:21] <Vexatos> Izaya, like 50cm?
L419[21:01:27] <CompanionCube> ThePiGuy24: remember not to imagine such illegal things as...republicanism!
L420[21:01:32] <Vexatos> 50-70 I guess
L421[21:01:32] <Izaya> short, eh
L422[21:01:46] <Izaya> how long does it take to get there
L423[21:01:46] <Vexatos> we've never had it growing for more than a year
L424[21:01:53] <Izaya> see
L425[21:02:03] <cranbe​rryjam> Can oc do 3d
L426[21:02:04] <Izaya> it rained for 4 days and the grass is a metre tall
L427[21:02:18] <CompanionCube> i mean, technically yes, since holograms are 3d
L428[21:02:30] <Vexatos> our grass grows up to 30cm in like 3 weeks but then it slows down
L429[21:02:37] <Vexatos> in the summer we have to cut it every 10 days or so
L430[21:02:41] <dequbed> Didn't somebody write a ray tracer too CC?
L431[21:02:43] <Izaya> mowing involves tipping the mower 45° and repeatedly driving into the wall of grass
L432[21:02:56] <Vexatos> Izaya, we have a ride-on lawnmower it doesn't care about the height
L433[21:03:13] <CompanionCube> dequbed: did they?
L434[21:03:14] <Izaya> those are $$$
L435[21:03:20] <Izaya> doesn't make sense for a yard as small as ours either
L436[21:03:29] <Vexatos> well yea we have a 7000m² grass area
L437[21:03:31] <CompanionCube> ah yes, it was sangar
L438[21:03:32] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/sangarwastaken/status/583963043899539456?lang=en
L439[21:03:34] <Vexatos> it's kinda mandatory
L440[21:03:56] <Izaya> nah
L441[21:04:00] <Izaya> conveinent, but not mandatory
L442[21:04:00] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Snagar is a "somebody" :p
L443[21:04:08] <Vexatos> yes quite mandatory
L444[21:04:13] <Vexatos> mowing the lawn already takes two days
L445[21:04:20] <Vexatos> well two days of 4h each
L446[21:04:43] <Izaya> we had 8 acres - 32k m² - when I was a kid
L447[21:04:45] <Izaya> and a push mower
L448[21:05:24] <bad at​ vijya> back in my day we had to walk to school
L449[21:05:25] <Izaya> though my dad was a fucktard that used mowing as an excuse to not be in the house, so make of that what you will
L450[21:05:28] <bad at​ vijya> and it was up hill both ways
L451[21:05:36] <CompanionCube> in the snow!
L452[21:05:45] <Izaya> on broken glass!
L453[21:05:47] <Vexatos> CompanionCube, in the snow at 35°C
L454[21:06:09] <CompanionCube> Vexatos: you flipped the sign :)
L455[21:06:13] <ben_mkiv> like a manual push mower?
L456[21:06:23] <ben_mkiv> how old are you izaya? must be >30 then!?
L457[21:06:33] <bad at​ vijya> manual push mowers are still a thing
L458[21:06:42] <Vexatos> yes for small gardens
L459[21:06:45] <Izaya> I mean like
L460[21:06:50] <bad at​ vijya> because putting a belt and a clutch on a mower raises the price by 200 USD
L461[21:06:51] <bad at​ vijya> apparently
L462[21:06:55] <Vexatos> not for large areas of grass .-.
L463[21:06:57] <Izaya> not one with the cutting edge actuated by the motion of the mower
L464[21:07:01] <Izaya> it had a motor
L465[21:07:03] <Izaya> but you pushed it
L466[21:07:05] <Izaya> just a normal mower
L467[21:07:18] <ben_mkiv> ok, maybe im just having bad memories because of the old thing my parents had, or because i was smol and it was heavy to move
L468[21:07:27] <ben_mkiv> ah ok
L469[21:07:37] <ben_mkiv> i was thinking of one without motor
L470[21:07:38] <Vexatos> we also have two string trimmers for the hard to reach places, one petrol-fueled and a brand new electric one
L471[21:08:00] <Vexatos> and a push mower but we only use that for underneath the one half-height apple tree my grandpa once got for a birthday
L472[21:08:05] <Vexatos> pro tip: never buy half-height apple trees
L473[21:08:34] <Vexatos> the electric trimmer is very nice
L474[21:08:42] <ben_mkiv> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00008IHSK
L475[21:08:49] <ben_mkiv> but they are still a thing apparently
L476[21:09:39] <Vexatos> I learnt how to mow the lawn the moment I weighed more than 30kg because that's the weight that has to be on the driving seat for it to allow you to turn it on
L477[21:09:41] <Vexatos> (safety)
L478[21:10:08] <Vexatos> it instantly turns off if you leave the seat which is kinda nice for turning it off too
L479[21:10:15] <ben_mkiv> cmon, at that age you where super exicted and couldn't wait for driving that thing around
L480[21:10:30] <Vexatos> well no I barely reached the gas pedal
L481[21:10:42] <Izaya> got a uh, 100cc 4-stroke engine on the current mower
L482[21:10:47] <Vexatos> also it's still extremely loud, I use my ANC headphones for it
L483[21:10:51] <Izaya> without muffler it's significantly louder than my 250cc bike
L484[21:11:06] <Vexatos> it's essentially a small tractor with a blade strapped to the bottom
L485[21:11:08] <Izaya> got some nice earmuffs from work a while back though
L486[21:12:06] <Vexatos> mowing the lawn was always very boring and in the summer also painful for me, I'm glad my uncle decided to do more of it
L487[21:12:34] <Izaya> I didn't want to have to mow when it got to like 37° today so I figured 5:30 AM was a good time for it
L488[21:12:36] <Izaya> B)
L489[21:12:51] <Vexatos> yea same
L490[21:13:01] <Izaya> haha mower go brr
L491[21:13:04] <Vexatos> I am quite sensitive to heat so in the summer I only mow the lawn after 8 p.m.
L492[21:13:22] <Vexatos> when at least the sun is mostly behind the trees
L493[21:13:41] <Vexatos> maintaining such a large garden is a lot of effort and currently my grandma is basically working on that full-time with everyone else helping when they can. Not sure what will happen to it
L494[21:14:03] <Vexatos> we have a lot of rare birds in it
L495[21:16:32] <Vexatos> Our lawnmower cost like €3000 I think
L496[21:16:41] <Vexatos> it sucks but they all do
L497[21:16:48] <Vexatos> this one at least works whenever the blade doesn't jam
L498[21:16:54] <Forec​aster> reading that backwards was interesting
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L500[21:17:05] <Forec​aster> "Our lawnmower cost like €3000 I think, we have a lot of rare birds in it"
L501[21:17:22] <Vexatos> I mean
L502[21:17:29] <Vexatos> free fertilizer
L503[21:18:25] <Izaya> what really annoys me about this one
L504[21:18:32] <Izaya> it doesn't have anywhere for the grass to go
L505[21:18:49] <Izaya> so I have to flip the cover up and scrape it out with my boot every 2 minutes or so
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L507[21:19:06] <Izaya> what happened to the nice little ejection slot on the side? >.>
L508[21:19:22] <Vexatos> ride-ons have a big advantage there because you can swap out the back between either a basket or a chute, so you can choose whether to just drop the grass on the ground as fertilizer or to collect it to dump it by the trees
L509[21:19:55] <Izaya> I think this one is designed for collection
L510[21:19:55] <Vexatos> the one we have absolutely sucks when the grass is still remotely wet though
L511[21:20:06] <Izaya> but if you do that it removes nutrients from the ecosystem
L512[21:20:13] <Izaya> so fuck that
L513[21:20:20] <Vexatos> yea we have the chute attached most of the time
L514[21:20:49] <Vexatos> noone here cares for stepping on dead grass, considering the little rain we've been getting that's normal these days anyway .-.
L515[21:20:53] <Vexatos> 2019 had half of our grass dying
L516[21:21:07] <Vexatos> 2020 it regrew after like two bags of seeds
L517[21:21:32] <Vexatos> we have this very nice shop nearby selling local grass seeds
L518[21:21:33] <Izaya> been working on encouraging the nicer grass
L519[21:21:41] <Izaya> rather than the stupid fucking lawn grass
L520[21:21:46] <Vexatos> and also native flower seeds
L521[21:21:52] <Vexatos> so we now have a big flower field
L522[21:21:55] <Vexatos> for bees
L523[21:21:58] <Vexatos> it's very pretty
L524[21:21:59] <Izaya> I want comfy 30cm tall island grass that's nice to lay in
L525[21:22:10] <Vexatos> beware the ticks
L526[21:22:20] <Izaya> rather than stupid two metre tall lawn grass imported from europe
L527[21:22:35] <Izaya> native grass is also acceptable
L528[21:22:41] <Izaya> but no beach weeds and no lawn grass
L529[21:22:44] <Izaya> >.>
L530[21:22:47] <Vexatos> we have native grass
L531[21:22:52] <Vexatos> which, in a moorland
L532[21:22:53] <Vexatos> means no grass
L533[21:22:56] <Vexatos> it's like 60% moss
L534[21:23:02] <Vexatos> which is comfy to walk on but looks very ugly
L535[21:23:04] <Vexatos> because it's yellow
L536[21:23:09] <Vexatos> so it looks like dead grass
L537[21:23:20] <Izaya> as for ticks
L538[21:23:30] <Izaya> we don't have the trees that they tend to reside in around here
L539[21:23:33] <Izaya> so I haven't had any in years
L540[21:23:44] <Vexatos> so our garden even after rain has these large yellow patches and it looks dead but it's just yellow moss
L541[21:23:58] <Izaya> and if we kill off the stupid lawn grass they don't like the native grass either
L542[21:25:32] <Vexatos> I mean if you want to swap out your lawn there's tools you can rent for that
L543[21:25:48] <Vexatos> it'll look very ugly for a few months until the new grass grows, make sure to do it during rainy season
L544[21:25:54] <Izaya> I just mow the stuff I don't want
L545[21:26:03] <Izaya> and it is now the rainy decade so I may investigate
L546[21:26:47] <Vexatos> it looks like a push mower but you use it over already cut grass and it basically rips out the top layer of the soil with all the roots in it
L547[21:27:12] <Vexatos> and if you then plant seeds of another grass type, it'll grow faster than the stuff left over can regrow
L548[21:27:25] <Izaya> the problem with lawn grass
L549[21:27:32] <Izaya> is that it grows faster than anything else
L550[21:27:33] <dequbed> Izaya: Ah yes see over here ticks are pretty much our most deadly animal so you'll get a *lot* of "beware of the ticks!" :p
L551[21:27:34] <Izaya> >.>
L552[21:27:48] <Izaya> snakes live in grass here
L553[21:28:01] <Izaya> ticks are just something you pull off with tweezers after a shower
L554[21:28:13] <Vexatos> the most dangerous things in our garden are the heckin wasps
L555[21:28:22] <Vexatos> every year with a hornet nest is a blessing
L556[21:28:26] <Vexatos> because hornets are harmless and eat wasps
L557[21:28:51] <Izaya> I wanna get some native bees
L558[21:29:02] <Izaya> did you know australian native bees don't sting
L559[21:29:05] <Izaya> they can't sting
L560[21:29:08] <Izaya> they have no stinger
L561[21:29:15] <Izaya> it's pretty great
L562[21:29:17] <Vexatos> do they produce honey?
L563[21:29:28] <Izaya> yees
L564[21:29:35] <Izaya> I think it's nicer than the european murderbees too
L565[21:29:38] <Vexatos> I mean our native bees are literally the classic honey bees
L566[21:29:49] <Vexatos> because they are from exactly where I live
L567[21:29:50] <dequbed> I mean our bees don't sting if you don't annoy them. I've been around bees quite a long and never been stung
L568[21:29:55] <ThePi​Guy24> heathland bestland
L569[21:29:56] <Vexatos> yea bees are chill
L570[21:30:10] <Vexatos> wasps are the bane of my existence
L571[21:30:12] <Vexatos> bees are fine
L572[21:30:22] <Vexatos> we used to have a couple of beehouses in out garden
L573[21:30:35] <ThePi​Guy24> bees here are usually fine unless you have something sugary
L574[21:30:36] <dequbed> I was never stung by wasps either so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L575[21:30:41] <Vexatos> until one year our neighbor decided to use a bit too many pesticides and the bees got drugged and started murderung my grandma
L576[21:30:49] <Vexatos> I was stung by wasps seven times
L577[21:30:54] <Izaya> we used to get paper wasps
L578[21:30:54] <Vexatos> it really isn't very nice
L579[21:30:56] <Izaya> bastards
L580[21:31:17] <Izaya> fire is quite effective against them, though.
L581[21:31:19] <Vexatos> wasps also tend to just sit down on whatever you're currently eating or drinking
L582[21:31:23] <Vexatos> which bees don't do
L583[21:31:37] <Vexatos> so bees are never near you while wasps actively try to get close
L584[21:31:39] <Kristo​pher38> unless it's something sugary? 🤔
L585[21:32:55] <Kristo​pher38> I'm not sure if I was stung by a bee or a wasp, but I was eating an apple while watching anime so naturally wasn't attending to making sure nothing is sitting on my apple, and got stung in the tongue
L586[21:33:51] <Vexatos> we don't have beehouses anymore but I'm thinking of asking one of the beekeepers whether they need a few locations. We did plant that flower field though so we have a lot of carpenter bees which are very cute
L587[21:34:13] <Vexatos> and other solitary bees too
L588[21:35:45] <Vexatos> I hope we get more insects in general, and fewer wasps
L589[21:36:02] <Vexatos> you can really notice the extiction of insects where I live
L590[21:36:08] <Vexatos> extinction*
L591[21:36:36] <Izaya> native bees are a threatened species here :<
L592[21:36:50] <Izaya> the obnoxious imported stuff out-competes them
L593[21:37:36] <Vexatos> Germany has a very active beekeeping community, promoting native honey and such, so beekeeping and bee protection is a thing often talked about, and anything that protects honey bees also protects other bees
L594[21:37:51] <Izaya> your bees kill our bees
L595[21:38:09] <Vexatos> our bees don't eat other bees
L596[21:38:16] <Izaya> indirectly
L597[21:38:24] <Vexatos> just get more flowers :⁾
L598[21:38:39] <Izaya> that would require people to keep things other than uh
L599[21:38:43] <Izaya> shitty european grass
L600[21:39:09] <Vexatos> most of the lawn we have is native grass at least
L601[21:39:21] <Vexatos> from way before people could afford planting grass
L602[21:40:17] <Izaya> european grass out-competes native grass unless it rains a lot >.>
L603[21:40:49] <Wat​tana> whats the best way to generate random colors for use with gpu component?
L604[21:40:55] <Wat​tana> im making a demo for oclinux
L605[21:43:47] <dequbed> Izaya: If European grass out-competes australian grass in Australia, shouldn't australian grass just die then?
L606[21:43:55] <Izaya> no
L607[21:43:58] <Izaya> this is not capitalism
L608[21:44:01] <Izaya> >.>
L609[21:44:06] <dequbed> :>
L610[21:44:08] <Izaya> australia for australian grass
L611[21:44:20] <dequbed> Make European Grass Great again!
L612[21:44:30] <Izaya> megga, eh?
L613[21:44:50] <dequbed> Well Europe is just MEGA :>
L614[21:45:28] <Izaya> magatards on suicide watch, europe has a bigger acronym
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L616[21:46:19] <Vexatos> biodiversity is important dequbed
L617[21:46:47] <Forec​aster> I'll divert your bio
L618[21:46:47] <dequbed> Vexatos honey. dear. I'm not being serious.
L619[21:47:07] <bad at​ vijya> beeing
L620[21:47:24] <Vexatos> the coolest thing about the flower field we planted is that it even made flowers appear that weren't even in the seed mix we planted
L621[21:47:32] <Vexatos> just brought in from other animals
L622[21:47:34] <Vexatos> like borage
L623[21:47:38] <Vexatos> borage is very pretty
L624[21:48:06] <Forec​aster> %sip
L625[21:48:06] <MichiBot> You drink a silent rock potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". Forecaster takes 3d​6 => [2,5,5] acid damage.
L626[21:48:09] <Vexatos> we also have thistles but those are very not nice to have in a place you may plan to walk on
L627[21:48:14] <Vexatos> but still pretty
L628[21:48:18] <Forec​aster> ow
L629[21:48:24] <Vexatos> I like purple flowers
L630[21:49:11] <dequbed> Vexatos: Alpen-Distel best plant. Fite me :<
L631[21:49:45] <Forec​aster> MichiBot why would you do this to me D:
L632[21:50:24] <Vexatos> oh yea my mum got self-seeding crocus for christmas and we planted them so now we may even have flowers in march
L633[21:51:11] <Izaya> been getting unsellable houseplants from work
L634[21:51:25] <Izaya> putting em out the back in the shade
L635[21:51:54] <Va​ur> %sip
L636[21:51:55] <MichiBot> You drink a sedimented salmon potion (New!). The potion was inside Vaur all along.
L637[21:51:56] <Vexatos> "unsellable"?
L638[21:52:04] <Vexatos> as in illegal or ubiquitous
L639[21:52:42] <Izaya> as in "doesn't pass QC / didn't sell quick enough"
L640[21:52:54] <bad at​ vijya> finally got the accessories for my pinephone
L641[21:52:58] <bad at​ vijya> which were supposed to be here
L642[21:53:06] <bad at​ vijya> [checks date]
L643[21:53:12] <bad at​ vijya> over a week ago
L644[21:53:15] <Izaya> wow
L645[21:53:16] <Vexatos> you can put them up on your online classifieds listing of choice
L646[21:53:17] <Izaya> a week
L647[21:53:19] <Izaya> so late /s
L648[21:53:21] <Vexatos> and just wait for anyone to care
L649[21:53:31] <Izaya> I mean, not really
L650[21:53:44] <Izaya> they take up space if you don't get rid of them quickly
L651[21:53:51] <Izaya> and the reason we don't sell them is reputational
L652[21:53:57] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: the funny is that it was stuck like 10 miles away
L653[21:54:04] <bad at​ vijya> for whatever reason
L654[21:54:35] <Vexatos> I managed to sell some haworthia offshoots for the same price I bought the plant at the store at heh
L655[21:55:09] <Izaya> due to Intellectual Property (I shit you not), we're not allowed to re-propogate either
L656[21:55:22] <Izaya> well, re-propogate and sell
L657[21:55:23] <dequbed> LOL
L658[21:55:30] <dequbed> Peak capitalism
L659[21:56:02] <Izaya> because the breeds of plants are owned by the entity - usually a company - that bred them
L660[21:56:19] <bad at​ vijya> let's breed our own plants and open source them under like
L661[21:56:23] <bad at​ vijya> GPL or something
L662[21:56:24] <bad at​ vijya> :^)
L663[21:56:42] <dequbed> Don't think that'd work
L664[21:56:48] <Izaya> bonus points: lots of them are out of china so they're quite happy to break other people's rules, but they'll sue you into the ground if you break your local IP laws
L665[21:57:07] <Vexatos> I am pretty sure you can breed and re-sell literally any plant you like over here that you can also legally buy
L666[21:57:07] <dequbed> s/rules/legs/
L667[21:57:07] <MichiBot> <Izaya> bonus points: lots of them are out of china so they're quite happy to break other people's legs, but they'll sue you into the ground if you break your local IP laws
L668[21:57:19] <Izaya> shhh
L669[21:57:22] <Izaya> you'll give them ideas
L670[21:57:29] <dequbed> Vexatos: More or less, biology is not patentable(TM)
L671[21:57:41] <dequbed> Izaya: I'm really not, they had those ideas long ago.
L672[21:57:48] <Vexatos> only banned plants are the usual suspects for narcotics
L673[21:57:56] <Vexatos> and anything highly invasive
L674[21:59:44] <Vexatos> I like growing plants but only if it's low effort
L675[21:59:49] <Vexatos> so it's usually stuff I plant outside
L676[21:59:56] <Vexatos> that can survive on its own
L677[22:00:42] <Vexatos> in 2019 I planted three sallowthorn bushes and it looked like they were dying because deer ate their bark in autumn but they survived another year and new branches came out of the ground so I'm hopeful
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L680[22:05:46] <Michiyo> Ok, back from dropping SO off.
L681[22:06:10] <dequbed> Michiyo: Dropping off your better half so you can spend times with your worse half (us)?
L682[22:06:37] <Michiyo> @Forecaster I'm going to give this ONE more shot. I've got 'OpenCargo' running in my IDE, and I'm going to try to implement a container "the right way".
L683[22:06:41] <Michiyo> dequbed, yep. :P
L684[22:07:00] <i develo​p things> @Wattana vt100 support?
L685[22:07:24] <Wat​tana> no vt100, unfortunately
L686[22:07:31] <Izaya> mediocre
L687[22:07:45] <Vexatos> Michiyo making a mod?
L688[22:07:47] <Vexatos> in 2021????
L689[22:07:59] <Wat​tana> but heres what i got working https://tinyurl.com/yyzga83c
L690[22:08:00] <Vexatos> very creative name
L691[22:08:11] <Michiyo> Fore named it.
L692[22:08:17] <Vexatos> that explains it
L693[22:08:19] <Izaya> :drakeno: OpenCargo
L694[22:08:23] <Izaya> :drakeyes: OpenTransport
L695[22:08:34] <Forec​aster> says the person who made "Forecaster's Backpacks" :P
L696[22:08:35] <Michiyo> I'm like 9% sure that's a thing
L697[22:08:58] <Vexatos> @Forecaster it's very creative considering you had very little to do with it :⁾
L698[22:09:12] <Izaya> OpenTransport is the more modern TCP/IP stack for classic Mac OS
L699[22:09:17] <Vexatos> Izaya, then you can make a mod pack and call it OpenTransport Tycoon
L700[22:09:37] <Izaya> Vexatos: and the sequel, adding a "Deluxe" suffix
L701[22:09:44] <Vexatos> that's DLC
L702[22:09:51] <dequbed> Izaya: https://www.theolognion.com/haskell-programmer-attempts-to-live-without-side-effects-found-asphyxiated-in-black-box/
L703[22:09:55] <ThePi​Guy24> shame, guess this bug wont get fixed then https://tinyurl.com/y6fo22ns
L704[22:10:42] <Izaya> > not even a comment, just closed
L705[22:10:44] <Izaya> lmao
L706[22:12:02] <Izaya> dequbed: checks out
L707[22:12:09] <simon816> dequbed, sounds like a sudosatirical article
L708[22:12:16] <Vexatos> sudo satire
L709[22:12:54] <Vexatos> dequbed, is that because of haskell or because of living in Baden-Baden
L710[22:13:09] <dequbed> Vexatos: Yes
L711[22:14:01] <cranbe​rryjam> I wonder if someone will make a 286/386 emu for oc
L712[22:14:10] <dequbed> Already exists
L713[22:14:21] <cranbe​rryjam> Thats intel 8086
L714[22:14:27] <cranbe​rryjam> Not 80268
L715[22:14:34] <cranbe​rryjam> Not 80286 [Edited]
L716[22:14:38] <Vexatos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLAU_JNZwEE
L717[22:14:39] <MichiBot> OpenComputers: Introducting "Lunatic" | length: 3m 43s | Likes: 580 Dislikes: 5 Views: 29,448 | by asciicharismatic | Published On 20/7/2018
L718[22:14:43] <Izaya> I thought it was 286 but not 386
L719[22:14:43] <dequbed> Izaya: For you: https://www.theolognion.com/42-js-new-js-framework-aims-to-equalize-build-time-and-page-load-time-at-42-seconds/
L720[22:15:13] <cranbe​rryjam> Thats the intel 8086
L721[22:15:22] <cranbe​rryjam> Not 386
L722[22:15:23] <Vexatos> there is no other *86
L723[22:15:26] <cranbe​rryjam> Or 286
L724[22:15:29] <Vexatos> everything else is a lie
L725[22:15:31] <Izaya> dequbed: the mark of good satire is that you can see it happening
L726[22:15:33] <cranbe​rryjam> Yes there is
L727[22:15:37] <Vexatos> no there isn't
L728[22:15:38] <Izaya> Vexatos: I wish it were true
L729[22:15:43] <Vexatos> there has never been an 86 processor
L730[22:15:46] <Vexatos> after the 8086
L731[22:15:59] <Izaya> but alas, we got a 32-bit extension, and a 64-bit extension
L732[22:16:00] <cranbe​rryjam> 286 486 386
L733[22:16:09] <Izaya> when it should've died as a 16-bit footnote
L734[22:16:16] <dequbed> 8085 is the only true chip.
L735[22:16:18] <Vexatos> is that what the government has been telling you @cranberryjam
L736[22:16:55] <cranbe​rryjam> I know your lyinf
L737[22:17:00] <Amanda> By far the least deadly lie they've been telling on this side of the pond
L738[22:18:29] <Vexatos> in the near future, all existing CPU architectures will be reimplemented as increasingly convoluted RISC-V extensions
L739[22:18:37] <cranbe​rryjam> Lol
L740[22:18:52] <Izaya> ... I should port that ZPU emulator to OC
L741[22:19:02] <Izaya> then people could have their cursed C
L742[22:19:07] <cranbe​rryjam> Risc-V is not advancing fast enough
L743[22:19:13] <Vexatos> ocvm on RISC-V when
L744[22:19:17] <dequbed> Amanda: https://twitter.com/i/status/1349777208764674048
L745[22:19:19] <MichiBot> Thu Jan 14 17:55:38 UTC 2021 @JakieWinks: life imitates art <https://t.co/64Nq9w6rGR&gt;
L746[22:19:27] <Vexatos> @cranberryjam RISC-V VMs are now in minecraft we're nearly there
L747[22:19:41] <cranbe​rryjam> Their at raspberry pi level
L748[22:19:42] <Amanda> Vexatos: I mean. I got ocvm compiled for oc2
L749[22:19:46] <i develo​p things> Vexatos: it compiles afaik
L750[22:19:51] <Vexatos> neat
L751[22:19:54] <cranbe​rryjam> OC2 ?
L752[22:19:58] <Amanda> It doesn't seem to run thouh
L753[22:20:12] <Izaya> was actually going to try to build ocvm on my phone
L754[22:20:19] <cranbe​rryjam> I dont think opencomputers 2 exist
L755[22:20:19] <Izaya> that's ocvm on ARM with musl
L756[22:20:30] <Izaya> it doesn't
L757[22:20:32] * Izaya nods
L758[22:20:34] <Amanda> Gets to the openos she'll then seems to keel over and die
L759[22:20:35] <i develo​p things> OC2 is a working title. RISC-V emulator based computers in Minecraft
L760[22:20:47] <cranbe​rryjam> Huh
L761[22:20:55] <cranbe​rryjam> But wat computers
L762[22:21:10] <cranbe​rryjam> Oc im guessing
L763[22:21:18] <Vexatos> it's not oc2
L764[22:21:20] <Vexatos> it's oc too
L765[22:21:37] <Izaya> T-5 minutes
L766[22:21:49] <dequbed> %slap Vexatos
L767[22:21:50] <MichiBot> deq​ubed is trying to slap Vexa​tos! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L768[22:21:56] <Vexatos> %defend
L769[22:21:56] <MichiBot> Specify an action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell, dodge
L770[22:21:58] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHOXi2t3lk
L771[22:21:59] <MichiBot> Hot Fire Engine Test for the Artemis Moon Rocket | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 11,756 Dislikes: 224 Views: 107,676 | by NASA | Published On 15/1/2021
L772[22:22:01] <Vexatos> %defend parry
L773[22:22:01] <MichiBot> Vexatos failed to parry dequbed wielding the space fox that makes cat sounds. With a 3 vs 13 (Cat +1) Vexatos takes the full 3 damage.
L774[22:22:12] <dequbed> SPACE FOX!
L775[22:22:15] <Vexatos> yo that's unfair
L776[22:22:17] <Vexatos> it's not a cat
L777[22:22:21] <Vexatos> it doesn't deserve a cat bonus
L778[22:22:23] <i develo​p things> It’s sort of but not really a successor to OC. Sangar clarified that he doesn’t want people to consider it to be OC2. At least for now.
L779[22:22:51] <Forec​aster> here's a fun fact, the defend command takes an argument
L780[22:23:04] <Vexatos> well yea it said that
L781[22:23:15] <Forec​aster> the argument is an item you use to block which can also get bonuses
L782[22:23:33] <Forec​aster> no it was dequbed who was wielding the space fox
L783[22:23:38] <Amanda> %parry nuclear cat bunker
L784[22:23:39] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Nothing to defend against right now.
L785[22:23:54] <Vexatos> no the argument was "parry"
L786[22:23:55] <Vexatos> :^)
L787[22:24:11] <Forec​aster> those are technically subcommands
L788[22:24:23] <Forec​aster> they're different, really
L789[22:24:38] <Amanda> Your FACE is a subcommand
L790[22:24:47] <Vexatos> no insults Amanda
L791[22:24:57] <Vexatos> bad
L792[22:25:16] <Forec​aster> %face
L793[22:25:16] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: This face?
L794[22:25:47] <dequbed> %pet Amanda
L795[22:25:47] <MichiBot> dequbed is brushing Amanda with A lumpy potato. Amanda regains 1d4 => 3 hit points!
L796[22:26:15] <Amanda> %eat the lumpy potato
L797[22:26:15] * MichiBot snatches it and eats it
L798[22:26:21] <Amanda> D:
L799[22:26:55] <Forec​aster> %stab Vexatos a nuclear submarine
L800[22:26:56] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is trying to stab Vexa​tos! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L801[22:27:05] <Izaya> T-1 minute
L802[22:28:10] <dequbed> Izaya: oooooooooh pretty
L803[22:30:47] <Vexatos> %defend guard
L804[22:30:47] <MichiBot> Vexatos managed to partially guard Forecaster wielding the nuclear submarine. With a 15 vs 14 (Nuclear +2) Vexatos only takes half of the 4 damage.
L805[22:31:15] <Forec​aster> you were supposed to specify something to defend with D:
L806[22:31:40] <Wat​tana> ~~why did I come back to a nuclear war rp?~~
L807[22:31:54] <Vexatos> ask the guy who implemented RP into michibot
L808[22:32:46] <Forec​aster> what
L809[22:32:57] <dequbed> Izaya: That was a very short 8 minute burn :P
L810[22:33:10] <Izaya> next time I play SE my base is going to clone this place
L811[22:33:27] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L812[22:33:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L813[22:33:40] <Ar​iri> nuclear sub included?
L814[22:33:58] <Amanda> Nuclear launch detected.
L815[22:34:14] * dequbed noms the nuclear launch
L816[22:34:39] <Forec​aster> I didn't know Wattana worked on MichiBot :P
L817[22:34:40] <Ar​iri> fires an array of SA6s at dequbed
L818[22:34:54] <dequbed> D:
L819[22:35:13] <dequbed> Ariri: What did I do to you? :<
L820[22:35:20] <Izaya> this building seems ideal for building vertical rockets
L821[22:35:32] <Forec​aster> %fling Ariri unstable isotopes
L822[22:35:32] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is flinging something at Ari​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L823[22:36:12] <Ar​iri> if i wait long enough, it becomes irrelevant
L824[22:36:38] <Forec​aster> it's possible nothing will happen in 5 minutes
L825[22:36:58] <Vexatos> @Forecaster didn't say that
L826[22:37:02] <Ar​iri> What’s that smell? PU
L827[22:37:28] <Forec​aster> well I didn't ask anything
L828[22:37:28] <Vexatos> Amanda, reminds me of supreme commander's nuke warning
L829[22:37:46] <Forec​aster> oh wait, I read "ask" as "asks"
L830[22:37:49] <Forec​aster> :P
L831[22:37:54] <Vexatos> same thing
L832[22:38:17] <Ar​iri> That’s two levels of confusion, oof.
L833[22:38:55] <Forec​aster> probably a sign I should go to bed
L834[22:39:13] <Ar​iri> Izaya: I want to have space race in KSP now. I don’t have KSP (officially), and if I buy it all my time is going into it. Darn you
L835[22:39:35] <Forec​aster> coding for 7 hours today seems to have drained my brain juices
L836[22:40:30] <Izaya> Ariri: if you get it we should synchronise mod lists and see how far we can get successfully and how quickly in career mode
L837[22:42:06] <dequbed> Izaya: oh oh oh oh can I join?
L838[22:42:12] <Izaya> yees
L839[22:42:18] <Izaya> though I imagine you'll win
L840[22:42:32] <dequbed> Izaya: DMP?
L841[22:43:07] <Izaya> it's an idea and the ways they deal with time warp would work pretty well
L842[22:43:23] <Izaya> to deal with timezones and such
L843[22:43:33] <Izaya> though I gather Luna is the current preferred multiplayer mod
L844[22:43:41] <Ar​iri> I haven’t played since before career mode was added with the tech tree and funding and such, but now I’m really interested
L845[22:44:09] <Izaya> I post stuff on fedi reasonably regularly https://social.shadowkat.net/notice/A2dupG3pLYlsXtfZlA
L846[22:44:14] <Ar​iri> If I can find it for a good price, say bye to my ED time
L847[22:44:25] <Izaya> isn't it on sale now?
L848[22:44:42] <Ar​iri> I haven’t checked, I’ve got a video processing
L849[22:44:43] <dequbed> Izaya: TBF I have only ever tried DMP once and never cared after. I can take a look at Luna too
L850[22:45:02] <Izaya> base game is 75% off, with all DLC it's 60% off
L851[22:45:05] <Vexatos> looks like KSP to me
L852[22:45:14] <Izaya> 35 AUD for the latter
L853[22:45:29] <Ar​iri> DLC is basically the mod stuff but you have to pay for it now right?
L854[22:45:40] <Izaya> DLC adds a few gameplay modes
L855[22:45:43] <Izaya> but it has parts too
L856[22:45:54] <Ar​iri> :o might get it then
L857[22:46:20] <Izaya> breaking ground adds like, more science stuff, making history adds scenarios, but you mostly get it for the parts
L858[22:46:24] <Izaya> guess I'm looking into setting up a LMP server
L859[22:46:45] <Amanda> Vexatos: I was specifically thinking about a '90s/early-'00s RTS game (think it was C&C:RA?) when I said it.
L860[22:46:58] <dequbed> Izaya: \o/
L861[22:47:07] <Vexatos> no clue but supreme commander has a similar message
L862[22:47:29] <Ar​iri> It reminded me of Defcon
L863[22:47:36] <Vexatos> it's from uh 2007 or so
L864[22:47:47] <Izaya> I was thinking OpenRA tbh
L865[22:47:52] <Vexatos> also an RTS
L866[22:48:18] <Ar​iri> Izaya: we gotta have nukes. I don’t know why, but I need something nuclear
L867[22:48:23] <Ar​iri> other than the stock engines
L868[22:49:34] <dequbed> NERVA?
L869[22:49:58] <Izaya> Ariri: is this suitable? https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/130503-111x-kerbal-atomics-fancy-nuclear-engines-december-23%C2%A02020/
L870[22:50:23] <Izaya> Integrates well with the Near Future series, which I greatly enjoy
L871[22:50:57] <Vexatos> I do not have the game but I have watched a view hundred hours of youtube videos
L872[22:51:29] <dequbed> Izaya: NEAR FUTURE HAS VASIMIR ENGINES? :O
L873[22:51:36] <dequbed> WANT.
L874[22:53:12] <Izaya> this is also neat https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/199070-111x-far-future-technologies-jan-7/
L875[22:54:34] <Izaya> oh, I'd have to drop life support stuff for the server
L876[22:54:36] <Izaya> that's fine, I guess
L877[22:55:04] <dequbed> I mean I love TACLS but it's kinda hard.
L878[22:55:12] <dequbed> Remote Tech tho... <.<
L879[22:55:36] <Izaya> I was using USI Life Support
L880[22:55:39] <Izaya> but
L881[22:55:41] <Izaya> eh
L882[22:56:31] <Vampyre> %drink coffee
L883[22:56:31] <MichiBot> Vam​pyre: Vampyre has some coffee. It's hot and bitter.
L884[22:56:41] <Izaya> even if multiplayer doesn't work out
L885[22:56:54] <Izaya> we can still run parallel programs and compete to see who gets where quicker
L886[22:57:12] <dequbed> Izaya: We could just each build our own "agency" and share save files. I'll gladly provide storage.
L887[22:57:18] ⇦ Quits: immibis (~immibis@dynamic-046-114-034-132.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) (Ping timeout: 378 seconds)
L888[22:57:31] <dequbed> So shared space station with different modules with different flags because different peoples :p
L889[22:57:56] <Izaya> an interesting idea would be to have something to like
L890[22:58:35] <Izaya> if you tell it to share a vessel in flight, it'd rip it out of your save file and upload it
L891[22:59:21] <Izaya> then other people grab the modified craft from some remote location and integrate it into their own save file
L892[22:59:22] <Vampyre> kind of like chess per mail, but more like KSP per email ;-)
L893[22:59:26] <Izaya> yees
L894[22:59:32] <Izaya> probably KSP via git
L895[22:59:46] <dequbed> That would even work given the KSP save file structure
L896[22:59:56] <Izaya> it's just XML, isn't it?
L897[23:00:11] <dequbed> I think JSON but very human readnable
L898[23:00:20] <Izaya> I wonder if it strips extra tags when saving and loading
L899[23:00:32] <Izaya> if it doesn't you could have metadata used for sharing in the save file
L900[23:00:56] <dequbed> Uh
L901[23:03:18] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/9HLeAzh.jpg
L902[23:04:03] <Vexatos> KSP but you build space birds instead of rockets
L903[23:05:57] <Izaya> it's not quite JSON
L904[23:06:01] <Izaya> but it's pleasantly easy to parse
L905[23:06:15] <Ariri> Izaya, Seems good, but whats the Emancipater thing in the FAQ
L906[23:06:42] <Ariri> Oh Far Future looks good
L907[23:06:56] <Ariri> I used good again. I mean \gooood\
L908[23:07:38] <Izaya> I don't actually use it myself
L909[23:07:49] <Izaya> but mostly because I hadn't gotten to the latter parts of the tech tree yet
L910[23:08:47] <Ariri> I'll buy it later today and sandbox test some of these mods and stuff or whatever you put together as well
L911[23:08:57] ⇨ Joins: immibis (~immibis@62.156.144.218)
L912[23:09:22] <Ariri> At least the Thargoid war has cooled down for now, so more time for building a space agency
L913[23:10:58] <Izaya> protip
L914[23:11:11] <Izaya> make sure you have filesystem compression turned on on the library KSP uses
L915[23:11:19] <Izaya> makes it use much less actual on-disk space
L916[23:11:28] <Izaya> especially the save files
L917[23:12:29] <Ariri> I'll see if I can manage that if it isn't already on. I'd probably have enough space if I clear my 200gb backup of camera roll and 40-80gb of unneeded recordings, though
L918[23:12:49] <Izaya> that's a way I could reclaim some disk space on my server
L919[23:12:56] <Izaya> I have a few hundred GB of video I haven't edited yet
L920[23:12:59] <Izaya> guess I probably won't
L921[23:18:16] <Izaya> oh hey SRV racing
L922[23:18:26] <Izaya> at a guardian ruin
L923[23:27:08] <Izaya> > BDArmory Luna Multiplayer plugin
L924[23:32:41] <Izaya> Ariri, dequbed: https://minecraft.shadowkat.net/spacerace.ckan
L925[23:32:49] <Izaya> I really should make that games.shadowkat.net or something
L926[23:36:17] <Izaya> anyone else want in?
L927[23:36:20] <Izaya> also, post flags
L928[23:36:47] <dequbed> Izaya: " NearFutureConstruction but it is not listed in the index, or not available for your version of KSP"?
L929[23:37:02] <Izaya> https://w1r3.net/wwKLyv.png
L930[23:37:05] <Izaya> dequbed: are you running 1.11?
L931[23:37:29] <dequbed> It's a fake instance because I wanted to look at the mod list
L932[23:37:34] <Izaya> aah
L933[23:37:43] <Izaya> idk man it's in my index
L934[23:37:47] <dequbed> Oh well
L935[23:37:57] <dequbed> I'll go set up a real 1.11 then
L936[23:37:59] <Amanda> What's the mod manager for KSP anyway?
L937[23:38:01] <Izaya> https://spacedock.info/mod/563/Near%20Future%20Construction
L938[23:38:03] <Michiyo> god damn it fuck you Forge
L939[23:38:04] <Izaya> CKAN
L940[23:38:07] <dequbed> Also I'll have to design a flag apparently <.<
L941[23:38:09] <Izaya> the Comprehensive Kerbal Archive Network
L942[23:39:37] <Michiyo> it seems this build of forge took deobfCompile away
L943[23:39:50] <Michiyo> since it "upgrades"? gradle
L944[23:42:22] <Michiyo> AAAAAAND I think that forge's dep support is fucked in this 1.12 build ANYFUCKING WAY
L945[23:42:34] <Z​ef> so I wrote a brainfuck interpreter using python, gonna port it over to lua and see if I can't make it like an eeprom or something
L946[23:42:52] <Michiyo> Since I'm seeing the same thing now that this 1.13 user is seeing https://github.com/MinecraftForge/ForgeGradle/issues/571
L947[23:42:53] <MichiBot> Title: [FG3] Deobf dependencies not resolved | Posted by: Choonster | Posted: Sat Mar 09 08:52:59 UTC 2019 | Status: closed
L948[23:42:54] <Michiyo> and it was fixed.
L949[23:42:57] <Michiyo> in 1.13+
L950[23:42:59] <Michiyo> but not 1.12
L951[23:43:32] <Izaya> https://weeaboo.space/media/2fd8bdf225fb38d24957a25916e385b190e39c54fabf094f2489d21ec8459516.jpg
L952[23:43:56] <Ar​iri> Izaya, if you like SRV racing, you should join the Elite Racers :)
L953[23:43:56] <Ar​iri> There’s only a couple races of the current championship left, but it’s still fun
L954[23:44:16] <Izaya> did a little bit on the enigma expedition
L955[23:44:18] <Izaya> was good fun
L956[23:44:25] <Izaya> hoping we get more SRVs soon
L957[23:44:54] <Ar​iri> With the current stuff at Lakon, we probably will get at least one, and maybe a new ship like the panther clipper
L958[23:45:06] <Izaya> panther clipper is eternal vaporware
L959[23:45:15] <Izaya> the new ship won't be it
L960[23:45:17] <Izaya> I'm sure of it
L961[23:45:22] <Izaya> t. hasn't read the news in months
L962[23:45:52] <Michiyo> downgrading fucking forge
L963[23:45:56] <Ar​iri> At least the new SRV then, to go along with statements in dev diaries
L964[23:46:03] <Ar​iri> https://youtu.be/1KOt-9GcAQA
L965[23:46:04] <MichiBot> Epic Highlights - Race Day 3 - Caerus - Scarab Mastery Championship | length: 18m 38s | Likes: 8 Dislikes: 1 Views: 150 | by BlackMaze | Published On 20/12/2020
L966[23:49:56] <Amanda> Izaya: I'm getting the same "mod does not exist" thin that dequbed did, with latest steam KSP
L967[23:50:07] <Izaya> huh
L968[23:50:15] <Izaya> does it show up in your normal index?
L969[23:50:44] <Amanda> nope
L970[23:50:59] <Amanda> There's three NearFutures but not Construction
L971[23:51:31] <Izaya> I don't understand https://imgur.com/A1ONu9y.png
L972[23:51:54] <Ar​iri> Also, at 14min you can see how ‘seamless’ this p2p is https://youtu.be/jYi4WgKJBIQ
L973[23:51:54] <MichiBot> Terrorsidic 1st Place - Race 1 - Race Day 4 - Scarab Mastery Championship | length: 17m 35s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 41 | by BlackMaze | Published On 9/1/2021
L974[23:52:10] <Izaya> if you go into settings -> compatible KSP versions and check 1.11, 1.10 and 1.9 does it show up?
L975[23:53:18] <Izaya> might also have to refresh
L976[23:53:46] <Amanda> now it does, I guess it's not quite compatible? (or not marked right)
L977[23:53:55] <Izaya> not sure
L978[23:54:00] <Izaya> oh well, at least we know why now
L979[23:54:06] <Amanda> the list says it supports "MaxKSP 1.11.9" but it's not showing
L980[23:54:10] <Izaya> yeah
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