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Anyone familiar with Corail's Tombstone?
<Kodos>
Anyone familiar with Corail's Tombstone?L4[00:35:08] ⇨
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L7[00:49:13] <bad at
vijya> finally
<bad at
vijya> finallyL8[00:49:17] <bad at
vijya> working on tsuki
<bad at
vijya> working on tsukiL9[00:49:27] <i develop
things> nice
<i develop
things> niceL10[00:49:33] <i develop
things> now finish it
<i develop
things> now finish itL11[00:49:34] <bad at
vijya> first i'm making a way to get a kernel dump
<bad at
vijya> first i'm making a way to get a kernel dumpL12[00:50:10] <i develop
things> idea: when showing errors, show the text of the affected
line from the affected file
<i develop
things> idea: when showing errors, show the text of the affected
line from the affected fileL13[00:50:21] <i develop
things> cursed but could be neat, especially with syntax
highlighting
<i develop
things> cursed but could be neat, especially with syntax
highlightingL14[00:50:26] <bad at
vijya> yeah well this is in the kernel panic function
<bad at
vijya> yeah well this is in the kernel panic functionL15[00:50:38] <i develop
things> still do it, just without the syntax highlighting
<i develop
things> still do it, just without the syntax highlightingL16[00:51:10] <bad at
vijya> nah
<bad at
vijya> nahL17[00:52:25] <bad at
vijya> god, i still need to make my fork of OC that adds a way
to dump functions so you can swap them in and out of RAM
<bad at
vijya> god, i still need to make my fork of OC that adds a way
to dump functions so you can swap them in and out of RAML18[00:53:36] <i develop
things> jUsT aLlOw bYtECoDe LoDiNG
<i develop
things> jUsT aLlOw bYtECoDe LoDiNGL19[00:53:45] <bad at
vijya> no
<bad at
vijya> noL20[00:53:46] <i develop
things> LoAdiNG*
<i develop
things> LoAdiNG*L21[00:53:56] <bad at
vijya> like the idea is
<bad at
vijya> like the idea isL22[00:53:59] <bad at
vijya> when you dump the function
<bad at
vijya> when you dump the functionL23[00:54:20] <bad at
vijya> it has an HMAC
<bad at
vijya> it has an HMACL24[00:55:14] <bad at
vijya> which is used to verify the save state
<bad at
vijya> which is used to verify the save stateL25[01:05:58] <Kristopher38> hmmmm
<Kristopher38> hmmmmL26[01:06:03] <Infarmerlelho> Hello! how do I get the
highest index of an table?
<Infarmerlelho> Hello! how do I get the
highest index of an table?L27[01:06:25] <Kristopher38> @Infarmerlelho t[#t] where
t is your table name
<Kristopher38> @Infarmerlelho t[#t] where
t is your table nameL28[01:07:51] <Infarmerlelho> so it would be
ingredient.gridlocations[#ingredient.gridlocations]?
<Infarmerlelho> so it would be
ingredient.gridlocations[#ingredient.gridlocations]?L29[01:08:14] <Kristopher38> exactly
<Kristopher38> exactlyL30[01:09:40] <Infarmerlelho> worked
<Infarmerlelho> workedL31[01:09:41] <Infarmerlelho> thanks bud
<Infarmerlelho> thanks budL32[01:35:56] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL33[01:35:56] <MichiBot> Yay! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 44 minutes and 13
seconds (By 29 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L34[01:35:57] <MichiBot> Vaur has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 0.12061. Position #2 => #1
(Overtook CompanionCube)
L35[01:36:11] <Amanda> We're not your
buddy, pa;
L36[01:36:16] <Amanda> pal*
L37[01:39:50] <Pokeforcegames> If anybody here has made
a program that deals with sgcraft, I want to know if there is one
that will keep dialing reandom stargate adresses until it gets a
positive hit and locks. If there is one out there, I would like to
experiment with it because I have had no luck finding it
myself
<Pokeforcegames> If anybody here has made
a program that deals with sgcraft, I want to know if there is one
that will keep dialing reandom stargate adresses until it gets a
positive hit and locks. If there is one out there, I would like to
experiment with it because I have had no luck finding it
myselfL38[01:41:04] <Amanda> I think someone on
Ariri's server was doing that? (or maybe she was )
L39[01:42:21] <Pokeforcegames> I wouldn't know who to
ask, if there is one out there for 1.7.10 builds, I would like to
test it out.
<Pokeforcegames> I wouldn't know who to
ask, if there is one out there for 1.7.10 builds, I would like to
test it out.L40[01:50:37] <dequbed> Amanda: Wait does
toktik prefer portrait viewports?
L41[01:51:02] <Amanda> dequbed: I gather as
such? I don't use it myself
L42[01:52:19] <dequbed> Huh. That explains
a lot
L43[01:53:08] <Ariri> @Pokeforcegames you
can find the documentation on the SG API for OC here: https://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/greg.ewing/minecraft/mods/SGCraft/doc/ComputerCraft.html
L44[01:53:48] <Ariri> Wardialing a Stargate
shouldn't be too difficult to write on your own, as I'm not sure
anyone did end up actually doing it. The war ended long before it
became necessary
L45[01:54:37] <Ariri> There's also some
example code at the bottom
L46[01:55:09] <Pokeforcegames> Ah alright, well I will
learn how to code it then. Thanks for your help. I just was hoping
to find something for a factions server. I was hoping to get the
upper hand lol
<Pokeforcegames> Ah alright, well I will
learn how to code it then. Thanks for your help. I just was hoping
to find something for a factions server. I was hoping to get the
upper hand lolL47[01:56:59] <Amanda> Ariri: I think
Prismatic may have been? ISTR them or you mentuoning the progress
in here
L48[02:02:12] <Vampyre> watch out you don't
accidently wardial a blackhole
L49[02:02:39] <Pokeforcegames> Hope not, I mean
gravitational anomalies are a thing in the pack im playing on
<Pokeforcegames> Hope not, I mean
gravitational anomalies are a thing in the pack im playing onL50[02:18:40] <Ariri>
Amanda: We all talked about it, but from my recon (assuming I
remember correctly), they never actually completed the
program.
<Ariri>
Amanda: We all talked about it, but from my recon (assuming I
remember correctly), they never actually completed the
program.L51[02:20:31] <Infarmerlelho> I'm not your pal,
friend
<Infarmerlelho> I'm not your pal,
friendL52[02:22:05] <Vampyre> we don't have
friends, mister
L53[02:29:06] <Izaya> Amanda, bad_at_vijya,
Ariri: https://i.redd.it/ttaru96w0eb61.jpg
L54[02:29:45] <Amanda> Izaya: Iw as
wondering if you weregoing to make a joke about that
L55[02:30:10] <Izaya> I'm disappointed
about the music choice in that scene
L56[02:30:17] <Izaya> but also confused it
was already part of the soundtrack
L57[02:30:22] <Ariri> *a eurobeat remix of
Tokyo Drift can be heard approaching*
L58[02:31:26] <Ariri> What's with the
yellow Scion-looking car? Is it photoshopped in or something?
L59[02:32:05] <Izaya> not seen the latest
yuru camp episode?
L60[02:32:19] <bad at
vijya> where's the jeep from ace combat zero
<bad at
vijya> where's the jeep from ace combat zeroL61[02:32:23] <ThePiGuy24> that an rx7 :woke:
<ThePiGuy24> that an rx7 :woke:L62[02:32:45] <Ariri> I have not
L63[02:33:08] <Izaya> it will make sense
later, then
L64[02:33:59] <ThePiGuy24> no the experience is spoiled
now
<ThePiGuy24> no the experience is spoiled
nowL65[02:34:28] <Izaya> watching yuru camp is
really fucking with me
L66[02:34:39] <Izaya> I keep expecting bad
things to happen because that's how narrative structure works
L67[02:34:46] <Izaya> but then
L68[02:34:49] <Izaya> it's just comfy
L69[02:36:37] <Amanda> Izaya: I feel like
they're baiting that in the S2 so far? I've had similar
thoughts
L70[02:37:18] <Ariri> I need to automate
downloading and organzing stuff so I can actually keep up with
anime and manga. I don't think I watched a single season of any
anime last year
L71[02:37:34] <Ariri> It's either that or
pay for Crunchyroll
L72[02:37:55] <Izaya> slap your Nyaa
searches into your RSS reader
L73[02:40:01] <Ariri> I can't tell for
certain if that's legitimate advice or not
L74[02:40:45] <Izaya> it's how I do
it
L75[02:40:58] <Izaya> not sure if that
makes it legitimate
L76[02:41:26] <Ariri> Seems legit, I'll get
an RSS thing
L77[02:41:42] <Ariri> Want to patch one
into the eReader as well
L78[02:41:54] <Izaya> koreader can do RSS
feeds
L79[02:42:04] <Izaya> generally all the
automated things for downloading will use RSS feeds
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L81[02:42:40] <Izaya> I just already had
stuff set up for other stuff so I put searches on nyaa so I filter
from the releases of groups I like to auto-tag stuff so I remember
to download it
L82[02:42:53] <Ariri> I'll probably use it
for downloading new chapters and sending them over with Calibre or
something then
L83[02:43:15] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/mNI3ac1.png
L84[02:43:39] <Izaya> also
L85[02:43:45] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/qq5kqa770ab61.jpg
L86[02:44:33] <Ariri> I'll look at that
after this Hydra fight
L87[02:44:39] <Ariri> So like, two hours
:/
L88[02:46:11] <Ariri> How it should have
been
L89[02:46:26] <Ariri> remilia, lol
L90[02:46:26] <Izaya> yurification!
yurification! yurification!
L91[02:46:46] <Ariri> yuri camp
L92[02:46:53] <Izaya> the best
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L97[03:11:45] <Infarmerlelho> hey, so my robot is always
crafting a single item despite ordering for more https://tinyurl.com/y337enc6
<Infarmerlelho> hey, so my robot is always
crafting a single item despite ordering for more https://tinyurl.com/y337enc6L98[03:11:56] <Infarmerlelho> do i need to keep moving
the stick out of the crafting area?
<Infarmerlelho> do i need to keep moving
the stick out of the crafting area?L99[03:13:05] <ThePiGuy24> yes i would imagine so
<ThePiGuy24> yes i would imagine soL100[03:13:09] <Izaya> doesn't it put
stuff into the selected slot?
L101[03:13:45] <Infarmerlelho> just noticed it does, I
probably just have to select something outside the grid
<Infarmerlelho> just noticed it does, I
probably just have to select something outside the gridL102[03:15:20] <Vampyre> it will put items
into the selected slot and up
L103[03:15:32] <Vampyre> so selecting slot
11 will fill 11 till 16, then flow over to 1
L104[03:18:40] <Infarmerlelho> ookay that fixed it,
thanks!
<Infarmerlelho> ookay that fixed it,
thanks!L105[03:19:09] <Infarmerlelho> right now dropping items
is the biggest bottleneck in my code, is there any way to speed
that up?
<Infarmerlelho> right now dropping items
is the biggest bottleneck in my code, is there any way to speed
that up?L106[03:19:14] <Infarmerlelho> like dropping multiple at
once
<Infarmerlelho> like dropping multiple at
onceL107[03:19:20] <Vampyre> transposer to
take it out
L108[03:21:20] <Infarmerlelho> not viable since the chest
constantly changes places :c
<Infarmerlelho> not viable since the chest
constantly changes places :cL109[03:21:56] <Vampyre> if you have a
computer/robot duo with transposers putting items in and pulling
them out, and the robot just crafting, you can craft around 10
stacks of buttons when everything is synced up nicely
L110[03:22:12] <Vampyre> per second*
L111[03:22:41] <Vampyre> if you need to
robot to dump it, then no, drop is the fastest way
L112[03:23:18] <Vampyre> (unless breaking
and replacing the robot is an option)
L113[03:23:42] <Infarmerlelho> hmmm that's actually a
nice idea, might use that for another thing later
<Infarmerlelho> hmmm that's actually a
nice idea, might use that for another thing laterL114[03:24:19] <Infarmerlelho> yeah unless the robot can
break itself it wont be that usefull
<Infarmerlelho> yeah unless the robot can
break itself it wont be that usefullL115[03:24:34] <Vampyre> make it drop tnt
;-)
L116[03:25:10] <Izaya> approaching 4.0 :3
https://imgur.com/FE3apwL.png
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L118[03:27:35] <Infarmerlelho> brb making a suicide
amazon drone for extremely quick deliveries
<Infarmerlelho> brb making a suicide
amazon drone for extremely quick deliveriesL119[03:28:08] <Vampyre> exactly, that's
the spirit
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L121[04:02:10] <bad at
vijya> i love using the worst weapons in games to just
<bad at
vijya> i love using the worst weapons in games to justL122[04:02:11] <bad at
vijya> meme on people
<bad at
vijya> meme on peopleL123[04:43:07] *
Amanda flops down by a toadstool in Elfi's grove,
zzzmews
L124[04:43:17] <Amanda> Night nerds
L125[04:43:47] <Izaya> o/
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L132[06:07:48] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L133[06:07:49] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
CompanionCube! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 4
hours, 31 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L134[06:07:50] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 4 hours, 31 minutes and 52 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00453 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2
=> #1. (Overtook Vaur)
L135[06:27:15] <Izaya> @20kdc looks like
we don't have to do cursed stuff to get consistent text spacing any
more https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/9763
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L138[07:29:22] <i develop
things> https://youtu.be/IOSow6-cmog is a metaphor for
trrump’s entire presidency tbh
<i develop
things> https://youtu.be/IOSow6-cmog is a metaphor for
trrump’s entire presidency tbhL139[07:29:22] <MichiBot> Jon Stewart's
Legendary Pizza Rant (Trump Eats Pizza With A Fork!?) | length:
6m 57s | Likes: 21,781
Dislikes: 212 Views: 594,892
| by Almighty Kevin | Published On 31/12/2020
L140[08:29:12] <Izaya> First manned
mission to the Mun in 1.11 :D https://social.shadowkat.net/media/df44acae76d63d5d9e86bccd19a28dd83d61b27bef806ef6c73e2c1af0ab72ea.jpg
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L144[09:38:25] <Wattana>
Um
<Wattana>
UmL145[09:38:53] <Wattana>
Any interesting stuff that had happened since my hiatus?
<Wattana>
Any interesting stuff that had happened since my hiatus?L146[09:39:14] <Wattana>
(Decided to continue the development of OCLinux and have some
questions to ask
<Wattana>
(Decided to continue the development of OCLinux and have some
questions to askL147[09:46:14] <Wattana>
Any interesting stuff that had happened during my hiatus?
[Edited]
<Wattana>
Any interesting stuff that had happened during my hiatus?
[Edited]L148[09:51:06] <Forecaster> things can happen?
<Forecaster> things can happen?L149[09:54:10]
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L152[10:14:29] <Wattana>
lol
<Wattana>
lolL153[10:14:48] <Wattana>
im wondering if there are any github actions for testing
opencomputers code
<Wattana>
im wondering if there are any github actions for testing
opencomputers codeL154[10:17:03] <Wattana> I
am currently using luacheck and it doesn't do well when tasked with
analyzing multi-file projects. It does not know the flow of code
and thus can spit out something like `sbin/init.lua:1:1: accessing
undefined variable kernel` even though I exposed it and the code
boots without problem
<Wattana> I
am currently using luacheck and it doesn't do well when tasked with
analyzing multi-file projects. It does not know the flow of code
and thus can spit out something like `sbin/init.lua:1:1: accessing
undefined variable kernel` even though I exposed it and the code
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L156[10:21:50] <Forecaster> ah
<Forecaster> ahL157[10:22:03] <Forecaster> you probably want to query
payonel about that when he's around
<Forecaster> you probably want to query
payonel about that when he's aroundL158[10:30:00] <Kristopher38> @Wattana OC2 came out
<Kristopher38> @Wattana OC2 came outL159[10:30:13] <Wattana>
when? where?
<Wattana>
when? where?L160[10:30:37] <Forecaster> "came out", that's
generous
<Forecaster> "came out", that's
generousL161[10:30:54] <Forecaster> Sangar is working on it,
there are builds on the build server but it's very much not
finished
<Forecaster> Sangar is working on it,
there are builds on the build server but it's very much not
finishedL163[10:32:01] <Wattana>
> Not ready for release
<Wattana>
> Not ready for releaseL164[10:32:01] <Wattana> b
r u h
<Wattana> b
r u hL165[10:32:45] <Wattana>
btw turns out luacheck have `allowdefinedtop` disabled by default
so it doesn't know that the kernel is defined in another file
<Wattana>
btw turns out luacheck have `allowdefinedtop` disabled by default
so it doesn't know that the kernel is defined in another fileL166[10:32:48] <Kristopher38> You can get a glimpse of
how it looks like on sangar's github
<Kristopher38> You can get a glimpse of
how it looks like on sangar's githubL167[10:33:07] <Wattana>
enabling this fixed the problem although I still have to adjust the
config file a bit more
<Wattana>
enabling this fixed the problem although I still have to adjust the
config file a bit moreL168[10:33:55] <Kristopher38> Oooh I need to try out
luacheck
<Kristopher38> Oooh I need to try out
luacheckL169[10:34:21] <Kristopher38> Not having a linter
sometimes makes easy mistakes go undetected
<Kristopher38> Not having a linter
sometimes makes easy mistakes go undetectedL170[10:35:54] <Wattana>
Im using luacheck for github actions
<Wattana>
Im using luacheck for github actionsL171[10:36:15] <Wattana>
for actual linting i am using sumneko's vscode extension
<Wattana>
for actual linting i am using sumneko's vscode extensionL172[10:41:23] <bauen1> %tonk
L173[10:41:24] <MichiBot> Sard! bauen1!
You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 31 minutes
and 52 seconds (By 1 minute and 42 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L174[10:41:24] <Kristopher38> Damn I want some lua tools
rn
<Kristopher38> Damn I want some lua tools
rnL175[10:41:25] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 4 hours, 33 minutes and 34 seconds! bauen1 also gained
0.00015 (0.00003 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#7. Need 0.00485 more points to pass Ocawesome101!
L177[10:44:08] <bauen1> @Wattana won't
e.g. git also complain about lines with only whitespaces / trailing
whitespaces ?
L178[10:44:38] <Wattana>
it does but I think storage devices in OC having very limited space
justifies the warnings
<Wattana>
it does but I think storage devices in OC having very limited space
justifies the warningsL179[10:45:12] <bauen1> @Wattana iirc git
warns about those spaces because they can get lost when patches are
send by email
L180[10:53:55] <Kristopher38> I hope that can be
disabled, I don't want my tools yelling at me for coding in my own
style
<Kristopher38> I hope that can be
disabled, I don't want my tools yelling at me for coding in my own
styleL181[10:56:08] <SquidDev> The whole point
of linters is to yell at you about your coding style though!
L182[10:56:36] <lucsoft>
😄
<lucsoft>
😄L183[10:56:45] <lucsoft>
don't disable it
<lucsoft>
don't disable itL184[10:57:07] <Kristopher38> But I want empty lines in
my code 😒
<Kristopher38> But I want empty lines in
my code 😒L185[10:57:14] <lucsoft>
then disable the rule
<lucsoft>
then disable the ruleL186[10:57:35] <lucsoft>
but don't disable it some rules can help you find bugs
<lucsoft>
but don't disable it some rules can help you find bugsL187[10:58:25] <SquidDev> The "line
contains only whitespace" doesn't trigger for empty lines. It
just triggers for empty lines _with trailing whitespace_.
L188[10:58:39] <Vampyre> so leave the rule
in a superposition of siabled and not disabled?
L189[10:58:48] <Vampyre> disabled*
L190[10:58:55] <Vexatos> linters are
annoying if your lua code isn't standard :^)
L191[11:00:17] <lucsoft>
or just use a formatter (on save) that makes it to a standard code
style
<lucsoft>
or just use a formatter (on save) that makes it to a standard code
styleL192[11:00:19] <Kristopher38> Never said I wanted to
disable linter entirely
<Kristopher38> Never said I wanted to
disable linter entirelyL194[11:05:08] <Izaya> no that's
gnome
L195[11:05:21] <lucsoft>
noo winui 3.0
<lucsoft>
noo winui 3.0L196[11:09:19] <Wattana>
is this what testing luacheck configs look like for other people?
https://tinyurl.com/y69c6ote
<Wattana>
is this what testing luacheck configs look like for other people?
https://tinyurl.com/y69c6oteL197[11:13:22] <Wattana> I
made luacheck ignore whitespace lines and oh wow it's a bliss
<Wattana> I
made luacheck ignore whitespace lines and oh wow it's a blissL198[11:18:01] <SquidDev> @Wattana You
are allowed to test them locally :p.
L199[11:18:18] <Wattana>
im just too lazy to install luacheck on windows
<Wattana>
im just too lazy to install luacheck on windowsL200[11:18:41] <Wattana>
so the test commits are basically my punishment for being a
distemperate fooleth
<Wattana>
so the test commits are basically my punishment for being a
distemperate foolethL201[11:18:45] <Wattana>
~~lol~~
<Wattana>
~~lol~~L202[11:18:55] <SquidDev> Judging by the
PRs I get, half the commits are fighting the linter. I think your
experience is pretty common.
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L204[11:22:19] <bauen1> having trailing
whitespaces in code is really annoying when working with git (or
really any "modern" ide / text editor that likes to strip
them by default)
L205[11:23:08] <bauen1> but as long as you
don't use unicode emojis for variable names you're doing fne
L206[11:23:09] <bauen1> *fine
L207[11:23:40] <SquidDev> I don't think
Lua likes unicode, so that's probably fine.
L208[11:24:56] <Wattana>
how do I make a clone of `_G`?
<Wattana>
how do I make a clone of `_G`?L209[11:25:14] <bauen1> SquidDev: true,
just have to use `_G["😀"]` then :D
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L212[12:53:20] <Shuudoushi> Do GPUs still only expose
functions to the OS and not actually do jack for actual rendering
performance?
<Shuudoushi> Do GPUs still only expose
functions to the OS and not actually do jack for actual rendering
performance?L213[12:53:39] <Tromp> hey
guys, would using multiple GPUs to render to the same screen yield
better performance? Im looking at making a game and would like to
implement a system like this.
<Tromp> hey
guys, would using multiple GPUs to render to the same screen yield
better performance? Im looking at making a game and would like to
implement a system like this.L214[12:53:59] <Shuudoushi> Yeah, because of that ^
<Shuudoushi> Yeah, because of that ^L215[12:54:42] <Elfi> I think there's a
hard component call limit on the CPU that would bottleneck such
performance
L216[12:56:04] <Elfi> There is offscreen
scratch space though, so you might be able to speed things up with
copy calls, or at least do a buffer swap to smooth out
updates
L217[12:57:37] <Forecaster> wellp, my miner turns out
wasn't very stable... https://tinyurl.com/y6xps9ze
<Forecaster> wellp, my miner turns out
wasn't very stable... https://tinyurl.com/y6xps9zeL218[12:57:54] <Forecaster> it seems to have
spontaneously exploded
<Forecaster> it seems to have
spontaneously explodedL219[12:57:55] <Wattana>
owo what game?
<Wattana>
owo what game?L220[12:57:55] <Shuudoushi> @Forecaster oof
<Shuudoushi> @Forecaster oofL221[12:58:11] <Forecaster> @Wattana I shouldn't have to
answer that
<Forecaster> @Wattana I shouldn't have to
answer thatL222[12:58:12] <Shuudoushi> Looks like space
engineers
<Shuudoushi> Looks like space
engineersL223[12:58:21] <Wattana>
but is it?
<Wattana>
but is it?L224[12:58:26] <Wattana>
🤔
<Wattana>
🤔L225[12:58:35] <Shuudoushi> Yes
<Shuudoushi> YesL226[12:58:39] <Wattana>
ah
<Wattana>
ahL227[12:59:06] <Wattana>
does anyone know how to make a copy of _G?
<Wattana>
does anyone know how to make a copy of _G?L228[12:59:23] <Shuudoushi> What do you mean?
<Shuudoushi> What do you mean?L229[12:59:29] <Wattana> a
sandboxing code i had was lost
<Wattana> a
sandboxing code i had was lostL230[12:59:57] <Shuudoushi> _G is generally a hard
global, you should be able to just call it
<Shuudoushi> _G is generally a hard
global, you should be able to just call itL231[13:00:56] <Wattana> I
wanna sandbox my code with a clone of _G
<Wattana> I
wanna sandbox my code with a clone of _GL232[13:03:20] <Shuudoushi> For _G in ipairs[] ? Idk, i
generally don't bother with sandboxing code, either me or the user
base gonna break shit either way lol
<Shuudoushi> For _G in ipairs[] ? Idk, i
generally don't bother with sandboxing code, either me or the user
base gonna break shit either way lolL233[13:03:25] <bauen1> @Wattana you
create a new table (and pass that as the environment when
loading/executing your sandbox code), then you still do a deep-copy
of the elemnts you want
L234[13:03:50] <bauen1> @Wattana e.g.
mynewG = { table = { move = table.move }, print = print }
L235[13:04:30] <Shuudoushi> Yeah, what they said ^
<Shuudoushi> Yeah, what they said ^L237[13:04:51] <Wattana>
but its just clunky
<Wattana>
but its just clunkyL238[13:06:08] <Shuudoushi> Then it'll be fine?
<Shuudoushi> Then it'll be fine?L239[13:07:01] <Wattana>
the problem is when the code wants to do something to outside the
sandbox e.g. requesting stuff
<Wattana>
the problem is when the code wants to do something to outside the
sandbox e.g. requesting stuffL240[13:07:30] <Shuudoushi> The only thing I normally do
is something like "G.new = G" or such if I'm worried
about it overwriting core files
<Shuudoushi> The only thing I normally do
is something like "G.new = G" or such if I'm worried
about it overwriting core filesL241[13:08:12] <bauen1> @Wattana is
oclinux open source and somewhere on online ?
L242[13:08:36] <Wattana>
yes but it's very experimental
<Wattana>
yes but it's very experimentalL243[13:08:52] <Wattana>
its got a long way to go before it can actually be used
reliably
<Wattana>
its got a long way to go before it can actually be used
reliablyL244[13:08:58] <bauen1> the bigger issue
sandboxes have is that you can still denial-of-service the
"host"
L245[13:09:50] <bauen1> and if you want to
prevent "escapes" you need to be very careful about
checking types, making sure that no table with (certain) metatable
methods slips by and grabs a reference to some other object the
sandbox isn't supposed to access
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L247[13:10:42] <Wattana>
infinite while loop?
<Wattana>
infinite while loop?L248[13:11:17] <bauen1> @Wattana and you
don't want to pass in the real tables, you need to copy them,
otherwise `_G.table.move = myevilfunction` in the sandbox will (in
most cases) affect code outside the sandbox
L249[13:11:25] <Wattana>
oclinux is multi-routine and have a built-in while loop crash
protection
<Wattana>
oclinux is multi-routine and have a built-in while loop crash
protectionL250[13:11:45] <bauen1> @Wattana since OC
enforces a timeout not quite, but you can still exhaust the runtime
of the computer, let me dig up the example on the forum
L251[13:12:36] <bauen1> @Wattana https://oc.cil.li/topic/1795-preemptive-multitasking-and-sysyield-timeouts/
L252[13:12:47] <bauen1> or on github
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3036
L253[13:12:47] <MichiBot> Title:
Implement preemptive multitasking | Posted by:
evg-zhabotinsky | Posted: Mon Jan 28 23:12:32 UTC 2019 |
Status: open
L254[13:13:16] <bauen1> there's also
https://github.com/fnuecke/eris/pull/30 which
would be really useful in this context
L255[13:14:49] <Wattana>
I'm not very good with Lua and OCLinux is just another OC OS but it
already have a BSoD prevention in case of infinite while loops
https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/blob/development/boot/kernel/OCLinux.lua
<Wattana>
I'm not very good with Lua and OCLinux is just another OC OS but it
already have a BSoD prevention in case of infinite while loops
https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/blob/development/boot/kernel/OCLinux.luaL257[13:15:37] <bauen1> @Wattana my last
go at a unix-ish oc os is still available online https://gitlab.com/bauen1/baumos
L258[13:16:58] <bauen1> not really sure
where i left off though
L259[13:17:04] <Shuudoushi> Yeah, my own SecureOS is
still broken as all hell...
<Shuudoushi> Yeah, my own SecureOS is
still broken as all hell...L260[13:17:36] <Shuudoushi> Got to rererererewrite the
bootloader x.x
<Shuudoushi> Got to rererererewrite the
bootloader x.xL261[13:17:54] <bauen1> more problematic
are actually modules (and memory usage)
L262[13:18:11] <Wattana>
but still, how do I properly sandbox though?
<Wattana>
but still, how do I properly sandbox though?L263[13:18:15] <bauen1> if you want to
have 2 sandboxs, you can't just share modules between them as that
would allow leaking references to values between them
L264[13:18:56] <Wattana>
so I have to invent a whole new architecture that's incompatible
with openos?
<Wattana>
so I have to invent a whole new architecture that's incompatible
with openos?L265[13:19:20] <Shuudoushi> Modules and memory usage
isn't too bad on the last working build of SoS, as it's meant to
just be Unix like and secure than basic OpenOS, it's just based
right off it lol
<Shuudoushi> Modules and memory usage
isn't too bad on the last working build of SoS, as it's meant to
just be Unix like and secure than basic OpenOS, it's just based
right off it lolL266[13:19:42] <bauen1> @Wattana not
necessarily, but OpenOS makes a lot of assumptions that might make
it hard to implement proper isolation
L267[13:19:48] <bauen1> @Shuudoushi is the
code somewhere online ?
L268[13:20:02] <Shuudoushi> @bauen1 my github
<Shuudoushi> @bauen1 my githubL269[13:20:09] <Wattana>
AFAIK openos doesnt seem to use sandboxing by default
<Wattana>
AFAIK openos doesnt seem to use sandboxing by defaultL270[13:20:37] <Shuudoushi> @Wattana then it's sandboxed
correctly, because it certainly is lol
<Shuudoushi> @Wattana then it's sandboxed
correctly, because it certainly is lolL272[13:21:58] <Shuudoushi> Release branch will NOT work
on any version of OC after 1.7.2MC iirc
<Shuudoushi> Release branch will NOT work
on any version of OC after 1.7.2MC iircL273[13:22:50] <Shuudoushi> Dev branch is giving me pcall
and dofile errors when trying to call the kernel... Gonna work on
that this weekend some
<Shuudoushi> Dev branch is giving me pcall
and dofile errors when trying to call the kernel... Gonna work on
that this weekend someL274[13:23:21] <bauen1> actually stopping
(and completely freeing the memory associated) with a sandbox can
also be quite hard, since you must ensure that no refernce leaks
outside the sandbox _G table
L275[13:23:41] <Wattana>
hmm
<Wattana>
hmmL276[13:23:49] <bauen1> to add to the fun:
OC doesn't actually allow you to handle out of memory errors in a
decent way that would allow you to stop the sandbox that _caused
it_
L277[13:23:59] <bauen1> last i checked
anyway
L278[13:24:11] <Shuudoushi> Payonel ever fix
garbagecollection, or is it still not implemented?
<Shuudoushi> Payonel ever fix
garbagecollection, or is it still not implemented?L279[13:24:17] <Wattana>
this might be shameless of me but yall mind helping me implementing
it on github?
<Wattana>
this might be shameless of me but yall mind helping me implementing
it on github?L280[13:25:02] <Shuudoushi> What do you mean? Like making
your own fork?
<Shuudoushi> What do you mean? Like making
your own fork?L281[13:25:15] <Wattana>
ye
<Wattana>
yeL282[13:25:15] <bauen1> on the other side,
since everything in an OC "OS" runs in a single lua
instance you're not limited to files, but can instead pass around
real objects => object based capabilities and all that fun
L283[13:25:43] <Wattana>
im not very good with sandboxing in lua
<Wattana>
im not very good with sandboxing in luaL284[13:26:02] <Wattana>
so im looking for contributors
<Wattana>
so im looking for contributorsL285[13:26:26] <bauen1> https://gitlab.com/bauen1/baumos/-/blob/dev/sys/sandbox.lua
and https://gitlab.com/bauen1/baumos/-/blob/dev/sys/user.lua
contain most of my sandbox glory
L286[13:26:53] <Shuudoushi> Lol, i unfortunately have my
own headaches with SoS that's gonna soak up all my time
<Shuudoushi> Lol, i unfortunately have my
own headaches with SoS that's gonna soak up all my timeL287[13:27:44] <Shuudoushi> But just making a fork is
simple. Make a github account, go to the repository you want to
fork, and just click fork.
<Shuudoushi> But just making a fork is
simple. Make a github account, go to the repository you want to
fork, and just click fork.L288[13:28:03] <Wattana> I
dont think thats compatible with how oclinux works
<Wattana> I
dont think thats compatible with how oclinux worksL289[13:28:27] <bauen1> if there was a way
of saving coroutines (and perhaps accessible to the OS), respond to
out-of-memory errors or limit per-sandbox memory, limit per-sandbox
cpu usage, you could probably implement some cool
"microkernel" concepts in lua
L290[13:29:40] <bauen1> but all in all you
can't really make a completely secure sandbox (as in preventing dos
attacks) in OC at the moment
L291[13:31:15] <Shuudoushi> Ah fuck... I forgot i still
have to figure out why and who my sha256 lib is broken
><
<Shuudoushi> Ah fuck... I forgot i still
have to figure out why and who my sha256 lib is broken
><L292[13:31:30] <Shuudoushi> s/who/how
<Shuudoushi> s/who/howL293[13:31:31] <MichiBot>
<Shuudoushi> s/how/how
L294[13:31:41] <bauen1> lol
L295[13:31:48] <Shuudoushi> Really michibot...
<Shuudoushi> Really michibot...L296[13:31:54]
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L297[13:32:04] <Shuudoushi> %bonk Michibot
<Shuudoushi> %bonk MichibotL298[13:32:05] *
MichiBot bonks Shuudoushi on the head preemptively!
L299[13:32:09] <Wattana>
know what ima go back to the old style
<Wattana>
know what ima go back to the old styleL300[13:32:18] <Wattana>
this one: https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/blob/development/boot/kernel/OCLinux.lua
<Wattana>
this one: https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/blob/development/boot/kernel/OCLinux.luaL301[13:32:21] <Shuudoushi> Why you bitch!
<Shuudoushi> Why you bitch!L302[13:32:52] <Wattana>
instead of trying to reinvent it
<Wattana>
instead of trying to reinvent itL303[13:34:33] <Kristopher38> @Shuudoushi don't know if
you know this already, but collectgarbage is disabled because debug
hooks aren't called inside it or something, the way to force GC in
OC is to yield 10 times
<Kristopher38> @Shuudoushi don't know if
you know this already, but collectgarbage is disabled because debug
hooks aren't called inside it or something, the way to force GC in
OC is to yield 10 timesL304[13:35:27] <dequbed> s/a/b
L305[13:35:28] <MichiBot>
<Kristopher38> @Shuudoushi don't know if you know this
blready, but collectgarbage is disabled because debug hooks aren't
called inside it or something, the way to force GC in OC is to
yield 10 times
L306[13:35:35] <Shuudoushi> @Kristopher38 i know, i just
didn't know if it was officially implemented as GC yet
<Shuudoushi> @Kristopher38 i know, i just
didn't know if it was officially implemented as GC yetL307[13:35:35] <dequbed> %blame
Forecaster
L308[13:35:35] *
MichiBot blames Forecaster for the existence of wasps!
L309[13:36:15] <Kristopher38> Allowing collectgarbage
would likely involve messing with Lua's C implementation
<Kristopher38> Allowing collectgarbage
would likely involve messing with Lua's C implementationL310[13:36:21] <Shuudoushi> @dequbed oof lol
<Shuudoushi> @dequbed oof lolL311[13:37:46] <Shuudoushi> Pretty sure I hyperextend a
muscle in my back... I hate getting old...
<Shuudoushi> Pretty sure I hyperextend a
muscle in my back... I hate getting old...L312[13:38:11] <bauen1> s/o/k/g
L313[13:38:11] <MichiBot>
<Shuudoushi> Pretty sure I hyperextend a muscle in my back...
I hate getting kld...
L314[13:38:18] <Wattana> i
changed my mind lma.... hmmm...
<Wattana> i
changed my mind lma.... hmmm...L315[13:38:33] *
bauen1 needs to read up a bit on sed syntax
L316[13:38:40] <dequbed> @Shuudoushi You
can tell I didn't write MichiBot because otherwise I'd use
#BlameForecaster like a twitter addicted teenage white girl
L317[13:39:49] <Shuudoushi> Lmmfao
<Shuudoushi> LmmfaoL318[13:40:07] <dequbed> bauen1:
s/<pattern>/<replacement>/<modifiers>.
<modifiers> are e.g. g = replace all occurances istead of the
first, i = ignore capitalization
L319[13:40:12] <dequbed> aaaaa
L320[13:40:14] <dequbed> s/a/b
L321[13:40:15] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
baaaa
L322[13:40:17] <dequbed> bbbbb
L323[13:40:19] <dequbed> s/b/a/g
L324[13:40:19] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
aaaaa
L325[13:40:44] <bauen1> dequbed: yea, that
part is easy, but iirc there's quite a few other commands
L326[13:40:54] <Forecaster> dequbed, it's regex...
<Forecaster> dequbed, it's regex...L327[13:41:24] <dequbed> bauen1: Somehow I
doubt MichiBot implements /all/ of sed :p
L328[13:41:40] <Forecaster> I didn't write that
part
<Forecaster> I didn't write that
partL329[13:42:12] <Shuudoushi> Michiyo is a masochist, but
she isn't that much of a masochist lol
<Shuudoushi> Michiyo is a masochist, but
she isn't that much of a masochist lolL330[13:52:18] <Izaya> cursed
question
L331[13:52:20] <Vampyre> well, 1 test 2
test
L332[13:52:27] <Vampyre> s/(.) test/\1
ok/g
L333[13:52:29] <MichiBot> <Vampyre>
well, 1 ok 1 ok
L334[13:52:32] <Vampyre> heh
L335[13:52:37] <Vampyre> backref works
;-)
L336[13:52:39] <Izaya> I have files in
anbox I want to access
L337[13:53:07] <Izaya> they're owned by
uid/gid 1023
L338[13:54:03] <Izaya> can I loop/bind
mount that to force it into being accessible and writable for my
user
L339[14:14:36] <Wattana> i
decided to go back to revamping the sandbox systerm of my kernel
idk why
<Wattana> i
decided to go back to revamping the sandbox systerm of my kernel
idk whyL340[14:14:43] <Wattana>
but I found a solution to the problem
<Wattana>
but I found a solution to the problemL341[14:14:50] <Wattana>
lmao what twist
<Wattana>
lmao what twistL342[14:16:50] <dequbed> Izaya: I don't
think bind mounts can change uids, no. Not sure what happens if you
bind-mount something into a namespace though.
L343[14:17:21] <dequbed> s:uids:file
perms/ownership:
L344[14:17:28] <dequbed> %blame
Forecaster
L345[14:17:28] *
MichiBot blames Forecaster for the return of Vecna
L346[14:17:36] <Izaya> inconvenient
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L351[14:37:54] <Forecaster> I love that you can use
remote control blocks as autopilots in survival now
<Forecaster> I love that you can use
remote control blocks as autopilots in survival nowL352[14:40:54] <Amanda> Izaya: ... diod
instance running as that uid/gid, 9p mount with uid/gid
overrides.
L353[14:41:09] <Amanda> Cursed answer.
:D
L354[15:05:09] <bauen1> Amanda: you're
laughing now, won't be laughing when it makes its way into a
production system :D
L355[15:11:54] <Amanda> bauen1: I mean,
I'm pretty sure Izaya just wants to access some files from an
android app on his pinephone
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L357[15:13:51] <Elfi> @Forecaster did they
fix the thrust oscillation spam?
L358[15:14:10] <Forecaster> not sure what you mean by
that so I'd guess yes
<Forecaster> not sure what you mean by
that so I'd guess yesL359[15:14:47] <Elfi> Basically the remote
control's autopilot in the past kept running the forward and
reverse thrusters once it got to speed
L360[15:15:13] <Forecaster> haven't noticed it doing
that
<Forecaster> haven't noticed it doing
thatL361[15:15:15] <Elfi> Which burned through
fuel and power fast
L362[15:15:25] <Elfi> Yay, guess they
fixed it
L363[15:15:51] <Izaya> that's why you need
a camera, a programmable block, and software for orientation and
vector operations
L364[15:16:31] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL365[15:16:33] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Vaur! You beat bauen1's previous record of 4 hours, 33 minutes
and 34 seconds (By 1 minute and 33 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L366[15:16:34] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 4 hours, 35 minutes and 8 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00015 (0.00003 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.00249 more points to pass CompanionCube!
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L368[16:06:19] <bad at
vijya> pinephone ships soon
<bad at
vijya> pinephone ships soonL369[16:06:23] <bad at
vijya> 18th
<bad at
vijya> 18thL370[16:07:06] ⇦
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L371[16:08:58] <Amanda> how do you even
check that, vijya? I got an order confirmation, but nothing
since
L372[16:09:25] <bad at
vijya> forum
<bad at
vijya> forumL373[16:09:33] <bad at
vijya> says they're shipping the 18th
<bad at
vijya> says they're shipping the 18thL374[16:13:36] <Amanda> got a link
handy?
L375[16:14:25] <Amanda> ls
L377[16:24:59] <Amanda> zah
L378[16:25:04] <Amanda> s/z//
L379[16:25:04] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
ah
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L382[16:49:15] <Izaya> ..https://social.shadowkat.net/media/df44acae76d63d5d9e86bccd19a28dd83d61b27bef806ef6c73e2c1af0ab72ea.jpg
L383[16:49:38] <Izaya> new orbital
craft
L384[16:49:45] <Izaya> has enough dV to go
to mun orbit and back
L385[16:50:28] <Izaya> have a slightly
different version with a 2-man pod and docking port for actual
orbital stuff
L386[16:51:10] <Amanda> maybe I should
play KSP again
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L388[17:09:43] <bad at
vijya> same
<bad at
vijya> sameL389[17:09:50] <bad at
vijya> and not just make wacky planes
<bad at
vijya> and not just make wacky planesL390[17:56:19]
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L395[18:55:28] <null> hi
hnOsmium0001, I'm null
<null> hi
hnOsmium0001, I'm nullL396[19:04:03] <hnOsmium0001> @null hi,
I'm Optional<T>
L397[19:07:12] <null>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/defohucidi
<null>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/defohucidiL398[19:07:27] <null>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/sufiqiqehe
<null>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/sufiqiqeheL399[19:09:57] <dequbed> Last I checked
Java does not have match. Or panic!. or println!
L400[19:11:25] <Ariri>
Izaya: I don’t know what this is, but you might like it or
something https://youtu.be/q7iT2mzlVf0
<Ariri>
Izaya: I don’t know what this is, but you might like it or
something https://youtu.be/q7iT2mzlVf0L401[19:11:26] <MichiBot> trying to
deliver tofu while some kids have a race or something | length:
2m 38s | Likes: 179,794
Dislikes: 3,514 Views:
6,492,933 | by twpsyn | Published On 14/6/2017
L402[19:13:08] <null>
because I used rust
<null>
because I used rustL403[19:13:27] <dequbed> Rust doesn't have
Optional<T>.
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L405[19:14:50] <null>
https://github.com/rust-osdev/bootloader/blob/86d1db72fd334e34dcfc17c78540b8365a974199/src/boot_info.rs#L174
<null>
https://github.com/rust-osdev/bootloader/blob/86d1db72fd334e34dcfc17c78540b8365a974199/src/boot_info.rs#L174L406[19:17:21] <Izaya> Ariri: damn those
overtakes
L407[19:17:53] <Ariri> unrivaled
speed
L408[19:17:59] <dequbed> @null sure, but
those standards java has all of the above :p
L409[19:18:45] <null> does
java have `match` on enums with values inside?
<null> does
java have `match` on enums with values inside?L410[19:19:17] <dequbed> Don't know, don't
care. I mainly write languages with a sensible type system
L411[19:19:28] <null> more
specifically, is this possible?
<null> more
specifically, is this possible?L413[19:19:58] <null> like
what?
<null> like
what?L414[19:21:18] <dequbed> If you mean
languages, mostly Haskell, Erlang and Rust. Small amounts of C++
and C here an there but those aren't much better than Java
really.
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L417[19:35:48] <dequbed> Izaya: So... when
you have bitflips corrupting files on your computer that's nothing
to worry about, right?
L418[19:36:14] <Izaya> it's a problem I
think about a lot
L419[19:36:19] <Izaya> I don't trust any
of my memory
L420[19:36:33] <Izaya> not least because I'm running
most of it above spec
L421[19:37:23] <dequbed> Izaya: Well an
'e' just appeared in a file I did not edit anytime this session,
didn't even look at. <.<
L422[19:37:35] <Izaya> f
L423[19:37:43] <dequbed> no, an 'e'.
L424[19:38:05] <Izaya> dequbed: it may
interest you to know that consumer ryzens support ECC memory
L425[19:38:14] <Izaya> assuming you pair
them with a suitable motherboard
L426[19:38:32] <dequbed> I am aware and I
was looking at getting ECC memory for my upgrade
L427[19:38:54] <dequbed> great now my
debugger broke <.<
L428[19:39:02] <Izaya> [concern]
L429[19:39:10] <dequbed> Yeah, this
computer is cursed.
L430[19:39:35] <dequbed> I was thinking of
using it as a homeserver when I get myself a newer desktop, but ...
well ... <.<
L431[19:39:53] <Izaya> Perhaps not.
L432[19:40:01] <Izaya> May I suggest a
cheap laptop instead?
L433[19:40:17] <dequbed> Fun things this
computer does: My vim does not consistently use settings
L434[19:40:57] <dequbed> My tabstop is
anything of: 4 spaces, 2 spaces, 8 spaces, 1 tab 4 spaces wide, 1
tab 8 spaces wide.
L435[19:41:10] <dequbed> It's configured
as 4 spaces btw.
L436[19:42:13] <dequbed> Izaya: But yeah
my bf is telling me to shut up and buy a thinkbad.
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L438[19:45:27] <Izaya> tfw thinkbad
L439[19:45:29] *
Izaya burns
L440[19:45:42] <Izaya> dequbed: was
playing Don't Starve Together on my X220 the other day
L441[19:46:17] <Izaya> it was doing like
10FPS and there were graphical issues
L442[19:46:18] <Izaya> :D
L443[19:46:46] <dequbed> I think he told
me to get one of the X2NN ones? X270? Something something
sensible
L444[19:48:17] <Izaya> X2NN is
12"
L445[19:48:40] <Izaya> T4NN is also pretty
nice
L446[19:48:45] <Izaya> T5NN is
impractical
L447[19:48:51] <Izaya> W5NN? buy a desktop
smh
L448[19:49:11] <dequbed> Numbers!
L449[19:49:43] <Izaya> also the xx20 stuff
is the last one with something resembling the classic ThinkPad
keyboards
L450[19:49:52] <Izaya> but also that means
you get second-gen intel processors
L451[19:50:32] <dequbed> I don't think I
care about anything much other than M.2 in sensible. If I want
super high CPU perf I buy a desktop.
L452[19:50:49] <Izaya> unless you're the
sort of masochist that enjoys either swapping an xx30 board into an
xx20 case or an xx20 keyboard into an xx30
L453[19:50:59] <dequbed> Oh and 32GB RAM
but I've been told that's standard?
L454[19:51:11] <Izaya> maybe with newer
ones
L455[19:51:14] <Izaya> got no experience
with em
L456[20:00:17] <Wattana> I
made a fork of MineOS and tested my GitHub Action on it
<Wattana> I
made a fork of MineOS and tested my GitHub Action on itL457[20:00:22] <Wattana>
1899 warnings lmao
<Wattana>
1899 warnings lmaoL458[20:05:50] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL459[20:05:51] <MichiBot> Swell! Vaur!
You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 35 minutes and 8
seconds (By 14 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L460[20:05:52] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.13076,
Position #2 => #1 (Overtook CompanionCube)
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L464[20:22:05] <Ariri>
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<Ariri>
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L467[21:07:29] <Wattana>
hey can someone help me track down a bug?
<Wattana>
hey can someone help me track down a bug?L468[21:07:50] <i develop
things> what is the bug?
<i develop
things> what is the bug?L469[21:07:53] <i develop
things> where is the bug?
<i develop
things> where is the bug?L470[21:07:57] <i develop
things> why is the bug?
<i develop
things> why is the bug?L471[21:08:56] <i develop
things> we need details we are not psychic
<i develop
things> we need details we are not psychicL472[21:09:12] <Wattana> I
made a new branch just to fix it https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/tree/gpu-interface-improvements
<Wattana> I
made a new branch just to fix it https://github.com/WattanaGaming/OCLinux/tree/gpu-interface-improvementsL473[21:09:31] <Wattana>
`lushell.lua` cant get the gpu component
<Wattana>
`lushell.lua` cant get the gpu componentL474[21:09:37] <Wattana>
`local gpu = system.display.gpu`
<Wattana>
`local gpu = system.display.gpu`L475[21:09:55] <Wattana>
but I already defined it Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/sunoxovugu
<Wattana>
but I already defined it Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/sunoxovuguL476[21:10:23] <i develop
things> first
<i develop
things> firstL477[21:10:32] <Wattana>
whats worse is that if I initialize the display outside of
`kernel.internal:initialize()` it will cause a c stack
overflow
<Wattana>
whats worse is that if I initialize the display outside of
`kernel.internal:initialize()` it will cause a c stack
overflowL478[21:10:37] <i develop
things> why `(function() return bla end)()` rather than just
`bla()`?
<i develop
things> why `(function() return bla end)()` rather than just
`bla()`?L479[21:10:45] <Wattana>
sandboxing
<Wattana>
sandboxingL480[21:10:55] <i develop
things> ...they're the same picture
<i develop
things> ...they're the same pictureL481[21:11:19] <Wattana>
so they dont help with sandboxing?
<Wattana>
so they dont help with sandboxing?L482[21:11:23] <i develop
things> aka `(function() return bla end)()` == `bla()`
<i develop
things> aka `(function() return bla end)()` == `bla()`L483[21:11:31] <i develop
things> exactly
<i develop
things> exactlyL484[21:12:02] <Wattana>
`gpu = kernel.display.gpu,` still doesnt fix though
<Wattana>
`gpu = kernel.display.gpu,` still doesnt fix thoughL485[21:13:23] <i develop
things> as far as i can tell, calling
`kernel.display:initialize()` outside of
`kernel.internal:initialize()` should work fine
<i develop
things> as far as i can tell, calling
`kernel.display:initialize()` outside of
`kernel.internal:initialize()` should work fineL486[21:13:43] <Wattana>
but it doesnt
<Wattana>
but it doesntL487[21:13:45] <i develop
things> i will note that `system.display.simple{Print,Write}` do
need to be the way you have them
<i develop
things> i will note that `system.display.simple{Print,Write}` do
need to be the way you have themL488[21:16:48] <Wattana>
ok removing the function part seems to fix the stack overflow
error
<Wattana>
ok removing the function part seems to fix the stack overflow
errorL489[21:17:00] <Wattana>
accessing it from luashell still gives a nil though
<Wattana>
accessing it from luashell still gives a nil thoughL490[21:17:59] <Izaya> I mean
L491[21:18:06] <Izaya> speak for yourself,
I'm psychic
L492[21:19:04] <i develop
things> try setting `_G.system = {...` rather than `system =
{...`
<i develop
things> try setting `_G.system = {...` rather than `system =
{...`L493[21:19:39] <Wattana>
it's till nil
<Wattana>
it's till nilL494[21:19:43] <Wattana>
it's still nil [Edited]
<Wattana>
it's still nil [Edited]L495[21:20:13] <i develop
things> hmmm
<i develop
things> hmmmL496[21:21:27] <i develop
things> first, on GitHub you don't even have luashell so i can't
see the code
<i develop
things> first, on GitHub you don't even have luashell so i can't
see the codeL497[21:21:46] <Wattana>
it's on the `gpu-interface-improvements` branch
<Wattana>
it's on the `gpu-interface-improvements` branchL498[21:21:51] <i develop
things> oh right right right
<i develop
things> oh right right rightL499[21:22:26] <i develop
things> to be clear - what exact error do you get from
luashell?
<i develop
things> to be clear - what exact error do you get from
luashell?L501[21:22:57] <i develop
things> hm
<i develop
things> hmL502[21:24:06] <i develop
things> no idea
<i develop
things> no ideaL503[21:24:22] <i develop
things> only idea is `print()` the crap out of everything
possible
<i develop
things> only idea is `print()` the crap out of everything
possibleL504[21:24:33] <i develop
things> i.e. from the kernel side log
`tostring(system.display.gpu)`
<i develop
things> i.e. from the kernel side log
`tostring(system.display.gpu)`L505[21:27:17] <Wattana>
it prints out an empty line
<Wattana>
it prints out an empty lineL506[21:27:25] <Wattana>
for the gpu
<Wattana>
for the gpuL507[21:28:00] <i develop
things> hmmm
<i develop
things> hmmmL508[21:28:12] <i develop
things> what about `kernel.display.gpu`?
<i develop
things> what about `kernel.display.gpu`?L509[21:28:41] <i develop
things> if THAT's `nil` you've got a problem, otherwise there's
an issue with the recursive copier you're using for the
sandbox
<i develop
things> if THAT's `nil` you've got a problem, otherwise there's
an issue with the recursive copier you're using for the
sandboxL510[21:29:17] <Wattana>
`kernel` is not directly accessible
<Wattana>
`kernel` is not directly accessibleL511[21:29:22] <Wattana>
guess i'll do it from the kernel itself
<Wattana>
guess i'll do it from the kernel itselfL512[21:29:47] <i develop
things> yeah that's what i meant
<i develop
things> yeah that's what i meantL513[21:29:50] <dequbed> Izaya: Yeah but
Watana pays none of us enough to use that power to solve his petty
squabbles :p
L514[21:29:51] <i develop
things> do it from the kernel itself
<i develop
things> do it from the kernel itselfL515[21:30:54] <Izaya> dequbed, I was
going more with "I can't do it over the internet"
L516[21:31:00] <Izaya> in other news
L517[21:31:00] <Wattana>
something might be wrong with the system table
<Wattana>
something might be wrong with the system tableL518[21:31:08] <Izaya> hit level 5
L519[21:31:09] <Izaya> B)
L521[21:31:24] <Wattana>
first line gives a table with hex addr and second line is
empty
<Wattana>
first line gives a table with hex addr and second line is
emptyL522[21:31:29] <Izaya> now I have
fireball
L523[21:31:30] <i develop
things> at this point i have very little idea what cou--WAIT
WAIT WAIT
<i develop
things> at this point i have very little idea what cou--WAIT
WAIT WAITL524[21:31:44] <i develop
things> you need to call `kernel.display:initialize()` BEFORE
DEFINING `system`
<i develop
things> you need to call `kernel.display:initialize()` BEFORE
DEFINING `system`L525[21:31:56] <i develop
things> otherwise `kernel.display.gpu` hasn't been defined
yet
<i develop
things> otherwise `kernel.display.gpu` hasn't been defined
yetL526[21:32:01] <Izaya> 8d6 fire damage on
a failed save, or half on a save
L527[21:32:15] <Wattana>
Initializing it outside of `kernel.internal:initialize()` and
before defining the `system` table causes a C stack overflow
<Wattana>
Initializing it outside of `kernel.internal:initialize()` and
before defining the `system` table causes a C stack overflowL528[21:32:22] <i develop
things> that's bizarre
<i develop
things> that's bizarreL529[21:32:35] <i develop
things> call `kernel.internal:initialize()` before defining
`system` then
<i develop
things> call `kernel.internal:initialize()` before defining
`system` thenL530[21:33:21] <i develop
things> something you could try is move `self.isInitialized =
true` to directly after you check if it's not
<i develop
things> something you could try is move `self.isInitialized =
true` to directly after you check if it's notL531[21:33:29] <Izaya> I am become
megumin
L532[21:33:33] <i develop
things> that should prevent the function from somehow
overflowing
<i develop
things> that should prevent the function from somehow
overflowingL533[21:34:17] <Wattana>
that fixed overflow but now `system` is not accessible from
outside
<Wattana>
that fixed overflow but now `system` is not accessible from
outsideL534[21:34:21] <Wattana>
:what:
<Wattana>
:what:L535[21:34:36] <i develop
things> push new code to GH, i'll have a look
<i develop
things> push new code to GH, i'll have a lookL536[21:34:45] <i develop
things> oh
<i develop
things> ohL537[21:34:46] <i develop
things> actually
<i develop
things> actuallyL538[21:35:15] <i develop
things> call `kernel.display:initialize()` before defining
`system` and `kernel.internal:initialize()` after doing so
<i develop
things> call `kernel.display:initialize()` before defining
`system` and `kernel.internal:initialize()` after doing soL539[21:35:31] <i develop
things> then it should all work and you Shouldn't™️ get any
stack overflowing
<i develop
things> then it should all work and you Shouldn't™️ get any
stack overflowingL540[21:35:33] <Wattana>
> that fixed overflow but now system is not accessible from
outside
<Wattana>
> that fixed overflow but now system is not accessible from
outsideL541[21:35:34] <Wattana>
wait that's because uhhhh its hard to explain but i found the
cause, was unrelated to the main problem
<Wattana>
wait that's because uhhhh its hard to explain but i found the
cause, was unrelated to the main problemL542[21:36:01] <i develop
things> ook
<i develop
things> ookL543[21:36:31] <Wattana>
`system` is still nil
<Wattana>
`system` is still nilL544[21:36:38] <i develop
things> hm
<i develop
things> hmL545[21:37:02] <i develop
things> i've got nothing
<i develop
things> i've got nothingL546[21:37:50] <Wattana>
dynamically typed languages can sometimes be a headache ngl
<Wattana>
dynamically typed languages can sometimes be a headache nglL547[21:38:07] <Ariri> Izaya, you like
house or hip-hop ish stuff at all?
L548[21:38:27] <Izaya> sometimes
L549[21:38:40] <Izaya> not hip-hop so much
but I like some electronic music
L550[21:40:47] <Ariri> Maybe you'll just
find it a bit silly then. It's electronic enough for me to like it,
but basically vtuber rabbit hole x music artist => some rather
strange stuff: https://soundcloud.com/avilondon
particularly 'zomrap,' 'country roads' and 'ground pound'
L551[21:41:26] <Ariri> It's like, stupid
silly, but actually not bad even if you aren't into the whole
waste-your-life-away scene
L552[21:41:52] <Izaya> I'll take a look
later
L553[21:41:58] <Izaya> still hosting
D&D presently
L554[21:42:15] <Ariri> Neato
L555[21:42:37] <Izaya> these people
sleep
L556[21:42:38] <Izaya> smh
L557[21:42:44] <Ariri> Also, context for
>I am become megumin ?
L558[21:43:08] <Izaya> my character is
level 5 and can now cast fireball which does absurd damage but I
can cast it like twice
L559[21:43:43] <Ariri> I see. Megumin
indeed
L560[21:44:00] <Izaya> also I only have
fire spells
L561[21:44:07] <Izaya> well, fire and
illusion
L562[21:44:49] <Ariri> inb4 giant toad
boss
L563[21:45:05] <Izaya> oh nononono
L564[21:46:14] <dequbed> The plague of
frog
L565[21:46:52] <dequbed> Not frog*s* mind
you. Frog. Singular. http://www.jewishanswers.org/ask-the-rabbi-2912/one-huge-frog/
L566[21:48:05] <Izaya> froge
L567[21:48:48] <Wattana>
@i develop things at this point I think I might as well rewrite the
whole display code 😓
<Wattana>
@i develop things at this point I think I might as well rewrite the
whole display code 😓L568[21:58:41] <Ariri> %strike dequbed
with slimy froge
L569[21:59:05] ***
maxpowa is now known as max
L570[21:59:11] <Ariri> > I cannot
execute this command right now. Wait 4 minutes and 32 seconds.
:|
L571[22:01:30] <dequbed> %stab Ariri
L572[22:01:30] <MichiBot> dequbed is
trying to stab Ariri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt
to %defend against it!
L573[22:01:54] <Ariri> %parry this you
casual
L574[22:01:54] <MichiBot> Ariri failed to
parry dequbed wielding dragon lick using parry this you casual.
With an 8 vs 12 Ariri takes the full 2 damage.
L575[22:02:14] <dequbed> Good job
L576[22:02:27] <Ariri> Where's that d20
when you need it
L577[22:02:38] <Ariri> Also dragon lick
doesn't sound that bad
L578[22:03:08] <Ariri> s/d20/20
L579[22:03:08] <MichiBot> <Ariri>
Where's that 20 when you need it
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L582[22:19:59] <Inari> @Ariri don't bang
Klee
L583[22:22:52] <Ariri> Inari, the sign
said bang to detonate though. You haven't solved Montstadt's
problems with a ThermonuKLEEar warhead?
L584[22:25:43] <SquidDev> http://stevedonovan.github.io/ldoc/
L585[22:25:49] <SquidDev> Oh, sorry. This
isn't my editor.
L586[22:30:41] <Ariri> Inari: https://soundcloud.com/holobass/holo-bass-ride-on-time-feat-pan-piano
has the sort of chill bgm vibe you might like
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