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L1[00:09:31] <Ariri> %sip
L2[00:09:31] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy spice potion (New!). Ariri feels slightly faster.
L3[00:51:35] <Michiyo> Oct 7 01:48:42 [!] sqlite fail: misuse of aggregate: SUM()
L4[00:51:38] <Michiyo> god damn it PHP
L5[01:13:53] <Snai​lDOS> hello hello helolo
L6[01:14:00] <Snai​lDOS> is the fabric 1.16 usable?
L7[01:14:03] <Izaya> henlo
L8[01:14:20] <Snai​lDOS> https://i.imgur.com/xDQy2nH.gif
L9[01:14:20] <Snai​lDOS> im scared
L10[01:14:30] <Snai​lDOS> but is it usable?
L11[01:17:30] <Izaya> only one way to find out
L12[01:17:44] <Ocawes​ome101> i've used it
L13[01:17:47] <Ocawes​ome101> seems fine
L14[01:20:05] <Snai​lDOS> waititititiititi
L15[01:20:06] <Snai​lDOS> so-
L16[01:20:09] <Snai​lDOS> it will work
L17[01:20:10] <Snai​lDOS> so-
L18[01:20:12] <Snai​lDOS> 1.16
L19[01:20:18] <Snai​lDOS> will it work on 1.16.2 ?
L20[01:20:24] <Ocawes​ome101> i think so
L21[01:20:25] <Snai​lDOS> or is that a whole different version
L22[01:20:28] <Ocawes​ome101> maybe even 1.16.3
L23[01:20:49] <Ocawes​ome101> minecraft generally uses sort-of vaguely-semantic versioning
L24[01:21:01] <Ocawes​ome101> sort of <very major>.<major>.<minor/patch>
L25[01:21:15] <Snai​lDOS> wait what nani they released latest 1.16.3?
L26[01:21:18] <Snai​lDOS> I didnt even see that
L27[01:31:15] <Snai​lDOS> https://i.imgur.com/oOAGpmM.gif
L28[01:31:18] <Snai​lDOS> BRO
L29[01:31:48] <Snai​lDOS> uhm
L30[01:31:50] <ThePi​Guy24> i need to try tis3d
L31[01:31:54] <Snai​lDOS> what is this
L32[01:31:59] <ThePi​Guy24> seems like its fun
L33[01:32:09] <Snai​lDOS> its not fun what so ever when you expect open computers to be installed
L34[01:32:31] <Snai​lDOS> kms there is no oc for 1.16 fabric
L35[01:32:33] <Snai​lDOS> i read it all wrong
L36[01:32:35] <Snai​lDOS> :GWsetmyxPeepoSad:
L37[01:34:21] <Michiyo> Yeah 1.12 is the latest MC version supported by OC
L38[01:34:32] <ThePi​Guy24> also theres a kinda neat thing about TIS-3D that pleases me
L39[01:34:54] <Snai​lDOS> \>:((((((((((
L40[01:35:09] <Michiyo> @Snai​lDOS feel free to port it!
L41[01:35:15] <Michiyo> make sure to PR the changes too!
L42[01:35:25] <Snai​lDOS> ah yes porting with no experience Lol
L43[01:35:38] <Snai​lDOS> what is tis3d anyway
L44[01:35:40] <Snai​lDOS> is that replacing oc?
L45[01:35:48] <ThePi​Guy24> its that its inspired by TIS-100, which is made by Zachtronics, which the "Zach" made the original Infiniminer, aka the game that inspired Minecraft :p
L46[01:36:04] <Snai​lDOS> is it replacing oc?
L47[01:36:10] <Michiyo> No...
L48[01:36:19] <ThePi​Guy24> no TIS-3D is a seperate thing from OC
L49[01:36:23] <Snai​lDOS> Alright I see.
L50[01:36:25] <Snai​lDOS> makes sense
L51[01:36:42] <Snai​lDOS> my friends want to play latest mc
L52[01:37:01] <Michiyo> Then they'll be doing do without OC sadly.
L53[01:37:09] <Snai​lDOS> All I want was 2 mods and if you guys already noticed literally all mods are on 1.12.2
L54[01:37:18] <Snai​lDOS> alright then-
L55[01:37:24] <Snai​lDOS> well there ever be a latest oc?
L56[01:38:09] <Michiyo> Sometime between now and the heatdeath of the universe?
L57[01:38:11] <Michiyo> Maybe.
L58[01:47:07] <Michiyo> SELECT CAST(SUM((SELECT IFNULL(SUM(l_evening), 0) FROM channel_activity WHERE l_evening != 0 AND date BETWEEN '2020-07-09' AND '2020-08-07') + (SELECT IFNULL(SUM(l_evening), 0) * 2 FROM channel_activity WHERE l_evening != 0 AND date BETWEEN '2020-08-08' AND '2020-09-06') + (SELECT IFNULL(SUM(l_evening), 0) * 3 FROM channel_activity WHERE l_evening != 0 AND date BETWEEN '2020-09-07' AND '2020-10-06')) AS REAL) / 180
L59[01:47:13] <Michiyo> Ok 1. ouch my brain
L60[01:47:20] <Michiyo> 2. WTF.
L61[01:47:32] <Michiyo> 3... Why is that a misuse of aggregate: SUM().
L62[01:55:16] <Michiyo> https://github.com/tommyrot/superseriousstats/blob/master/common_html_user.php#L125-L129
L63[01:55:17] * Michiyo sighs
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L66[03:25:06] <Amanda> Michiyo: double ()'s maybe? Is sleeps times for me though, so nini
L67[03:27:43] <Michiyo> Night Amanda.
L68[03:27:53] <Michiyo> Also I just tried to tab complete 'Night'
L69[03:41:32] <Michiyo> the double
L70[03:41:33] <Michiyo> (
L71[03:41:34] <Michiyo> s[p-ojmt[opdxijnfg\
L72[03:41:52] <Michiyo> The double '('s are to wrap the individual select statements
L73[03:42:42] <Michiyo> if I run each query by itself they're ok.
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L75[03:56:17] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/ssstats/oc/ There stats for this year
L76[03:56:28] <Michiyo> I still need to dump the SQL db out to ZSH styled logs
L77[03:57:00] <Michiyo> going to need to fix the parser for Corded..
L78[03:57:19] <Michiyo> and need to pull in the nicks.txt for grouping
L79[04:05:40] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L80[04:05:41] <MichiBot> Yikes! Forec​aster! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 4 hours, 46 minutes and 41 seconds (By 1 hour, 32 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L81[04:05:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 19 minutes and 36 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00775 (0.00155 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.19645553 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L85[05:55:59] <Michiyo> *grumbles*
L86[05:56:04] <Michiyo> Fucking php and sqlite
L87[06:22:53] <Michiyo> BAH! GOD DAMN IT
L88[06:23:06] <Michiyo> Return the lower case nick for further referencing by the calling
L89[06:23:06] <Michiyo> * function.
L90[06:23:07] <Michiyo> fuck you
L91[06:23:43] <Michiyo> If you're going to lowercase the nick DO IT EVERYWHERE OR NOWHERE.
L92[06:25:04] <Michiyo> I've opted for nowhere <_<
L93[06:25:59] <Forec​aster> Heh
L94[06:27:29] <Michiyo> it was taking `Ťim3Game` and lowercasing it to `ťim3Game`
L95[06:27:55] <Michiyo> then failing to find `ťim3Game` in the DB, because it was entered as `Ťim3Game` in the uid map
L96[07:00:15] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y6jwp9jq
L97[07:00:23] <Forec​aster> someone's having engine trouble I think
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L103[07:31:11] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L104[08:10:59] <Forec​aster> 1.2 million credits in combat bonds and I'm in the top 75%, which gets me the engineered missile rack :D
L105[08:11:08] <Michiyo> Congrats!
L106[08:11:11] <Forec​aster> that's less than I thought would be needed
L107[08:11:47] <Michiyo> %stats
L108[08:11:52] <Michiyo> %ocstats
L109[08:11:52] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/ssstats/oc/index.html
L110[08:11:58] <Forec​aster> I should probably continue for a bit to get me a margin in case the threshold shifts past me
L111[08:12:08] <Forec​aster> 21 hours left on the CG
L112[08:12:10] <Michiyo> There, the logs are basically functionally what they were before the "upgrade"
L113[08:12:18] <Forec​aster> woo
L114[08:12:31] <Michiyo> some time tomorrow I'll see about dumping the old logs out drop the whole DB and reload
L115[08:12:59] <Forec​aster> I'll also get 6 million credits, which still leaves me in the negative on this since I got blown up once
L116[08:13:23] <Forec​aster> the rebuy on this ship is 24 million...
L117[08:13:58] <Forec​aster> it's always fun when you are in the middle of a battle and suddenly like 5 npc ships decide to target you at the same time
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L120[08:47:38] <Forec​aster> godammit http://tinyurl.com/y5zww3lp
L121[08:47:53] <Forec​aster> five ships attacking me at once
L122[08:49:16] <Forec​aster> stubborn princess chasing me... http://tinyurl.com/y26z6gh7
L123[08:49:32] <Forec​aster> fortunately I'm faster than a Vulture
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L125[10:11:52] <dequbed> I was almost worried when SnailDOS didn't appear for like a week.
L126[11:23:22] <DaCompu​terNerd> %tonk
L127[11:23:22] <MichiBot> Eh! DaCompu​terNerd! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 19 minutes and 36 seconds (By 58 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L128[11:23:23] <MichiBot> DaComputerNerd's new record is 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds! DaComputerNerd also gained 0.00679 (0.00097 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.06209 more points to pass Ocawes​​ome101!
L129[11:53:55] <ThePi​Guy24> ayy i finally fixed my site
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L135[12:37:41] * Amanda makes a note to call space-AAA not @Forecaster if she ever has engine trouble in space
L136[12:37:51] * Amanda is pretty sure that shooting with lasers won't help with engine trouble
L137[12:38:24] <Forec​aster> I was using multicannons :>
L138[12:38:45] <Forec​aster> those will counter the lasers and fix it, obviously
L139[12:50:42] <Forec​aster> I mean, clearly the metal pieces will plug any holes in the hull right
L140[12:54:04] <Amanda> fired slowly, maybe, but rapidly, 200/s no
L141[12:54:19] <Amanda> 200/s at high speed
L142[12:54:40] <Forec​aster> that would explain why he blew up I guess, I thought he just had some faulty wiring or something
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L146[15:53:20] * Saphire chews on Izaya
L147[15:53:44] <Izaya> ???
L148[15:54:49] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: hey wanna know what cursed thing i've made today?
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L150[15:55:04] <Izaya> Sure
L151[15:55:18] <bad at​ vijya> so
L152[15:55:26] <bad at​ vijya> my PE2950 only boots every other time, yea?
L153[15:55:59] <bad at​ vijya> i've made a syslinux lua script to reboot it every other time
L154[15:57:42] <Izaya> n-no
L155[15:57:51] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L156[15:57:54] <bad at​ vijya> it's too late
L157[15:57:55] <bad at​ vijya> you can't stop me
L158[16:04:05] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L159[16:04:25] <bad at​ vijya> i'll eventually set up a hacky external watchdog
L160[16:07:35] <bad at​ vijya> using a raspi
L161[16:12:15] <bad at​ vijya> okay, this'll work how i thought it would
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L163[16:31:14] <bad at​ vijya> i need to find a linksys router
L164[16:31:17] <bad at​ vijya> well
L165[16:31:21] <bad at​ vijya> i found one
L166[16:31:29] <bad at​ vijya> but i need to find an adapter what will fit
L167[16:31:35] <bad at​ vijya> *that
L168[16:31:44] <bad at​ vijya> since lmao 6-12V last time i checked
L169[16:31:46] * dequbed gives Izaya a flamethrower
L170[16:33:10] <bad at​ vijya> oh, 6-15
L171[16:34:19] <Inari> a
L172[16:34:30] <Inari> Amanda: I wasn't platic blocks tho!
L173[16:34:33] <Inari> And a fox needs to sleep
L174[16:34:34] <Inari> :P
L175[16:40:31] <Amanda> Meow!
L176[16:42:00] <Michiyo> "You have 2 weeks to download your data!" Calls in a month later... "Wheres my data!?"
L177[16:42:03] * Michiyo facedesks
L178[16:42:06] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L179[16:42:06] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with bowl of quark-gluon soup. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! Bowl of quark-gluon soup met a Pikachu and was shocked.
L180[16:42:40] <Inari> Michiyo: Do they claim it hasn't said that when you tell them it said that?
L181[16:42:40] <Inari> :p
L182[16:42:57] <Michiyo> I mean, it's in the email I sent out, so best of luck to them with that argument :P
L183[16:43:11] <Inari> You're wrong tho!
L184[16:43:14] <Inari> I'm the customer!
L185[16:43:18] <Forec​aster> this is a big oopsie https://youtu.be/bMIQK5XvO5c
L186[16:43:18] <MichiBot> Guy DESTROYS City Plumbing with Orbeez - Real Plumber Reacts | length: 8m 38s | Likes: 23,188 Dislikes: 227 Views: 768,586 | by Roger Wakefield | Published On 28/8/2020
L187[16:43:34] <Forec​aster> like, criminal charges big
L188[16:46:00] <Inari> idiots be idiots
L189[16:46:38] <Inari> I already hate the guy who did this video from just the first few seconds
L190[16:47:27] <Forec​aster> why
L191[16:47:40] <Inari> Just his stupid behavior (the orbeez guy, not the plumber)
L192[16:47:47] <Inari> overacted stuff
L193[16:47:56] <Forec​aster> ah, well yeah
L194[16:47:59] <Forec​aster> it might be fake
L195[16:49:27] <Inari> the real questio nis
L196[16:49:34] <Inari> How many of those do we drop into the ocean to fill it up
L197[16:50:13] <Forec​aster> there's probably a volume for the amount of ocean water on earth somewhere
L198[16:50:23] <Forec​aster> wouldn't be that difficult to estimate
L199[16:51:40] <dequbed> About 1.332 cubic kilometers of water
L200[16:51:55] <Inari> yeah but I'm too lazy to do the math
L201[16:52:12] <Forec​aster> and Orbeez expand to 150 times their volume I think he said
L202[16:52:33] <Inari> whats their base volume? :p
L203[16:52:55] <Forec​aster> I dunno
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L206[16:56:28] <Amanda> comments say he admitted it was fake. It fucked up his house's plumbing, but not the city or neighborhood's
L207[16:56:55] <Amanda> the outdoor shots were staged so they claim
L208[16:57:04] <Inari> I mean
L209[16:57:07] <bad at​ vijya> >trying to get new cert
L210[16:57:12] <Inari> if it had fucked up the city I figure I'd have heard about it
L211[16:57:13] <bad at​ vijya> >timeout when there shouldn't be a timeout
L212[16:57:14] <bad at​ vijya> what the fuck
L213[16:58:45] <dequbed> Also there is only so much information that can be gathered from an american plumber commenting on a french video. Their system is quite a bit older than the american one and very different.
L214[16:59:43] <dequbed> In the same way that an american sparky commenting on european power grids would be weird unless he has specific education about it. The american system is much older and party for that reason much worse.
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L216[17:25:12] <Inari> will spark you
L217[17:27:24] <Forec​aster> %zap Inari
L218[17:27:24] <MichiBot> Forecaster zaps Inari using the Magic Magic attempt to index nil value! (25%)! (25%) as a conductor for 1d​10 => 2 damage!
L219[17:28:53] <Forec​aster> zap is too fast to defend against apparently
L220[17:42:47] <Saphire> So
L221[17:43:03] <Saphire> Can we have a 24h tonk?
L222[17:43:17] <Saphire> (please don't % tonk anyone, it was only 4 h out of 7)
L223[17:43:34] <Saphire> No wait, 6
L224[17:45:44] <R​ph> I think this is hitting the limits of what's possible with streaming video into minecraft, this time streaming my desktop with about 500ms of delay into a 8x5 lattice of maps in item frames http://tinyurl.com/y2xvlz9n
L225[17:51:10] <Forec​aster> now play only looking at the minecraft feed :P
L226[17:53:41] <Saphire> Uhh
L227[17:53:44] <Saphire> What resolution is that
L228[17:57:07] <R​ph> 1024x640
L229[17:57:14] <R​ph> 232 color palette because thats the limitation of 1.16 maps
L230[18:00:40] <Saphire> That's not a bad throughput for mc
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L232[19:09:16] <bad at​ vijya> bless
L233[19:09:29] <bad at​ vijya> a cheapo HDMI to VGA adapter i got caused my rpi to crash
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L237[19:54:15] <R​ph> Saphire, the data rate without compression enabled is 106 mbit per second.
L238[19:54:25] <R​ph> that's how much data the server sends to the client every second
L239[19:54:43] <R​ph> with compression enabled, it goes down to a slightly more manageable 30-ish
L240[19:54:48] <R​ph> I wonder will 1.17 add more colors to maps
L241[19:55:32] <Amanda> doubtful
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L243[20:13:31] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L244[20:13:31] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with imperialism. Amanda regains 1d4 => 1 hit points!
L245[20:13:36] <Inari> owo
L246[20:14:15] * Amanda conures Inari's laundry basket, claiming it's warmth in the name of the country
L247[20:14:20] <Amanda> conqures&
L248[20:14:40] <Inari> rude
L249[20:14:51] <Inari> Why would my laundry basket have warmth unless it's freshly worn stuff owo
L250[20:15:05] <Amanda> fresh from the dryer, ofc
L251[20:15:18] <Saphire> Wat
L252[20:15:20] <Saphire> Oh
L253[20:15:24] <Saphire> You're an sadness
L254[20:15:27] <Saphire> *American
L255[20:15:27] <Inari> Ah, I usually leave it in there fro too long for it to still be warm
L256[20:15:30] <Saphire> ... Thanks keyboard
L257[20:15:53] <Amanda> I speel gud
L258[20:16:10] <Inari> %pet Saphire
L259[20:16:10] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Saphire with a Magic bowling 8ball! (25%). Saphire regains 1d4 => 4 (Magic +2) => 6 hit points!
L260[20:17:16] <Saphire> %chirp
L261[20:17:18] <Saphire> Aw
L262[20:17:28] <Forec​aster> I only air dry my clothes, they last longer then
L263[20:17:50] <Inari> They're also stiffer thouhg, unless you add extra softwash sutff, but that often has an annoying perfumed smell imo
L264[20:18:06] <Forec​aster> what
L265[20:18:25] <Inari> air dried isn't as soft or flexible as dryer-dried
L266[20:18:41] <Inari> Unless you add fabric softener
L267[20:20:27] <Forec​aster> I don't do that
L268[20:20:44] <Inari> Well you might just not care about it being stiffer I supose
L269[20:21:06] <Forec​aster> they're not stiffer than when I've tumble dried them
L270[20:21:50] <Inari> Not sure what you're doing then :p
L271[20:22:08] <Amanda> different area's climate may affect t
L272[20:22:10] <dequbed> Inari: Maybe Forecaster has extremely low water hardness in his area. That helps with not having clothes be stiff.
L273[20:22:43] <Inari> possible
L274[20:29:37] <dequbed> @Rph that is quite something, congratulations. But a rather useless concept, is it not? :P
L275[20:30:05] <R​ph> well
L276[20:30:11] <R​ph> I see some potentially profitable use cases
L277[20:30:35] <Amanda> Rph wants to convince Hypixel et al to use it for ads, so he can design an adblockr
L278[20:30:55] <dequbed> Well given the bandwith this apparently consumes I don't think the ad revenue generates any profit after even that step.
L279[20:31:14] <R​ph> well
L280[20:31:18] <R​ph> the bandwidth issues can be solved
L281[20:31:26] <R​ph> for example by not sending full map updates every tick
L282[20:31:30] <R​ph> and by using... less maps?
L283[20:31:44] <R​ph> a 2x3 matrix is already plenty for decent-ish resolution for minecraft
L284[20:31:52] <R​ph> 384x256
L285[20:32:02] <dequbed> Well yes, but you're still sending frame-encoded video data over network. Something we've gone away from entirely until the invention of reddit because it's just that inefficient.
L286[20:32:14] <R​ph> maps support partial updates
L287[20:32:25] <R​ph> giving a very basic form of inter-frame compression
L288[20:32:36] <dequbed> Basic enough that it doesn't really matter
L289[20:32:39] <R​ph> also, the protocol itself applies zlib compression
L290[20:32:53] <R​ph> the 40 map video screen used between 10 and 30 mbit
L291[20:32:57] <R​ph> I tested it with a friend
L292[20:32:59] <dequbed> Few video that I have seen has enough per-frame matchup for "don't update this part" to make much of a dent.
L293[20:33:33] <dequbed> Do all clients get updated maps or just the ones that can see them?
L294[20:33:46] <R​ph> I do this with spigot+protocollib
L295[20:33:52] <R​ph> right now, i just loop over every player
L296[20:33:57] <R​ph> and send the update packet to them
L297[20:34:22] <dequbed> Ah so you're selectively desyncing players
L298[20:34:31] <dequbed> That's actually a pretty smart solution, yes.
L299[20:34:49] <R​ph> "selectively desyncing"?
L300[20:34:59] <R​ph> the current design sends an update packet to everyone
L301[20:35:10] <R​ph> but I could play completely different video to every client
L302[20:35:20] <dequbed> Which would be a desync, would it not? :p
L303[20:35:23] <R​ph> or just never even update the map from its original state
L304[20:35:30] <R​ph> well, yes, that would actually be desync
L305[20:35:32] <R​ph> fair point
L306[20:36:07] <dequbed> Still, 10-30Mbps is quite a lot. In general but even more so for video.
L307[20:36:50] <R​ph> that's a 40 map screen though, I would do video ads with at most 2x3
L308[20:37:05] <R​ph> and if the content was designed for the limitations of the system
L309[20:37:11] <R​ph> you could go quite far with smart inter-frame encoding
L310[20:37:41] <Amanda> it's not going to be worth the ad revenue to design ads specifically for the encoding
L311[20:37:56] <dequbed> Yes, but we're talking something like 1000 normal clients here to serve *one* video client. This will still bring servers not designed for that bandwidth to their knees.
L312[20:38:34] <dequbed> Simply because usually even 1000-player servers can get away with gigabit connections for most situations. Not with video playing to more than one or two players.
L313[20:39:29] <R​ph> I still think its an avenue worth exploring further, even if it ends up being fruitless
L314[20:39:52] <Amanda> I'm quite sure they've explored this direction themselves, and deemed it not worthwhile.
L315[20:40:03] <dequbed> I mean you could probably go about peering with high latency at high bandwidth and with low latency and low bandwith and route videos over the former and game data over the latter link.
L316[20:40:21] <dequbed> @Rph if you enjoy it it is worthwhile to explore for the sake of it.
L317[20:40:44] <dequbed> I'm very much not one to tell you to not do things for fun. Far from it and that would be /rather/ hypocritic of me.
L318[20:40:48] <Amanda> plus that, don't let us disuade you, but I don't think you'll convince Hypixel et all to adopt it
L319[20:41:10] <Amanda> ( It it et al or et all? )
L320[20:41:21] <dequbed> et. al. and alternatives
L321[20:41:37] <Amanda> ( or neither? I barely understand english sometimes, let alone a dead language )
L322[20:42:32] <dequbed> It stands for et alii. et like in et cetera and alii as in the plural of aliens aka other people :P
L323[20:42:59] <dequbed> (yes yes I know it plural of alius shuddup vex)
L324[20:43:12] <Amanda> %choose snack time?
L325[20:43:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L326[20:43:15] <Amanda> :(
L327[20:43:24] <dequbed> Amanda: No don't wait until tomorrow!
L328[20:43:25] * Amanda paws at Inari, demands dinner early
L329[20:43:32] <Vexaton> it stands for et aliqui actually
L330[20:43:39] <Amanda> dequbed: how's my instance in your game going?
L331[20:44:01] <Vexaton> well
L332[20:44:03] <dequbed> Amanda: Haven't played for a few days because I've been writing an automated orbiter in KSP. whoops
L333[20:44:08] <Vexaton> maybe not
L334[20:44:09] <Amanda> ah
L335[20:44:12] <Vexaton> English whack
L336[20:44:12] <dequbed> Vexaton: [citiation needed] mariam webster disagrees
L337[20:44:19] <Vexaton> I blame english
L338[20:44:22] *** Vexaton is now known as Vexatos
L339[20:44:41] <Vexatos> oh wait aliqui means someone
L340[20:44:43] <Amanda> %blame the serial mugger in a trenchcoat that is English
L341[20:44:43] * MichiBot blames the serial mugger in a trenchcoat that is English for the existence of wasps!
L342[20:44:50] <Vexatos> and alii means someone specific
L343[20:45:02] <dequbed> Amanda: But last I checked pretty good and still as useless :p
L344[20:45:11] * Inari feeds Amanda duplo
L345[20:45:14] <Amanda> Hey! I helped the disaster lesbians get together!
L346[20:45:23] <Amanda> Inari: stop trying to feed me plastic blocks. D:
L347[20:45:31] <Inari> I told you it isn't plastic blocks!
L348[20:45:31] <dequbed> Problem is I can't let her out to catch her own food so she's pegging out on our meals.
L349[20:45:53] <Amanda> pegging out? Did you mean pigging out?
L350[20:46:05] <Inari> what instance in what game
L351[20:46:09] * dequbed offers Amanda the sauce they just made, whiskey and chocolate
L352[20:46:16] <dequbed> Amanda: Yes yes whatever. English.
L353[20:46:20] * Amanda politely declines
L354[20:46:24] <dequbed> Inari: My Rimworld colony
L355[20:46:44] <Amanda> Inari: Duplo https://i.etsystatic.com/13657809/r/il/af1f3b/2367056000/il_1140xN.2367056000_omvh.jpg
L356[20:47:21] <Amanda> 73/100 until I can go to SPAAAACE
L357[20:47:36] <Inari> Amanda: duplo https://www.holzspielzeug-peitz.de/images/product_images/original_images/Kinder-Kaufladen-Zubehoer-Kinderkuechen-Lebensmittel-42190097-Fererro-Duplo.jpg
L358[20:48:04] <Amanda> hey wait, I think I've actually had them before. Don't remember when or where, but that packaging looks familiar
L359[20:48:05] <dequbed> Inari: You chose the *one* picture on the internet of duplo made from wood. To explain that they are not plastic blocks..
L360[20:48:15] <dequbed> I mean I guess that's valid.
L361[20:48:16] <Inari> shhh
L362[20:48:20] <Inari> she doesn't have to know
L363[20:48:35] * Amanda eyes Inari suspiciously
L364[20:48:37] <Inari> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Jk5hq_3TVV4TZRBl7SFT07lOCiQB_-Ki_z2Tbo0c6_WTOIMgQ5mPiUbtlrgfznXmfHD3YeeEo7z6jYC3Tv7kMnTR9U4j4BlrFLGNJ9Q93W9nGLGZt7dJEJ4Za9MRgNUnpA8CyLs there
L365[20:48:38] <Inari> :P
L366[20:48:39] <dequbed> But she'd hurt her teef if she bites into those :(
L367[20:48:56] <Amanda> that branding looks familar too
L368[20:48:59] <Inari> Bueno is way better than duplo though
L369[20:49:05] <Inari> esp. Bueno white
L370[20:49:11] <Amanda> maybe some teacher brought in foreign treats one day or something
L371[20:49:13] <Inari> But bueno is kinder I think
L372[20:49:23] <dequbed> Amanda: I's fucking Ferrero. That's like saying Coka cola red looks familiar, isn't it? :p
L373[20:49:30] <Inari> FerreroRocher
L374[20:49:31] <Inari> <3
L375[20:49:43] <dequbed> Inari: Can't have cats break their toof :( https://youtu.be/VGimvY3MgGo
L376[20:49:45] <MichiBot> Nagi broke his toof | length: 11m 27s | Likes: 88,179 Dislikes: 622 Views: 2,058,704 | by Rachel & Jun's Adventures! | Published On 15/12/2019
L377[20:49:58] <Inari> rachel/jun pog
L378[20:50:07] <Amanda> dequbed: I meant the colours, and the different colours among the letters of the product name
L379[20:50:24] <Amanda> the sweeping between red/white
L380[20:50:29] <dequbed> Amanda: You mean like Nutella?
L381[20:50:47] <dequbed> I wonder why.. Almost as if they are both made by Ferreo
L382[20:51:03] <Inari> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Ferrero_Rocher_ak.jpg the stuff of gods
L383[20:55:13] <Forec​aster> %sip
L384[20:55:13] <MichiBot> You drink a light tomato potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Comic Sans for 8 moons.
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L386[21:03:45] <Sammyhus> hi
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L388[21:03:58] <Amanda> bye
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L390[21:04:22] <dequbed> %hello
L391[21:04:22] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L392[21:05:48] <Sammyhus> Idk where to ask my question. Do I just ask it here?
L393[21:05:59] <dequbed> Well ... i mean.. yes?
L394[21:06:13] <dequbed> If it fits somewhere else better we'll tell you.
L395[21:06:35] <dequbed> But y'know we can't precognition your questions so you will at least have to spell them out for us ;)
L396[21:07:00] <Sammyhus> actually I have 2. Is this only a MineOS thing or is this a fully online thing?
L397[21:07:09] <dequbed> This is a very online thing!
L398[21:07:14] <Sammyhus> ok
L399[21:07:19] <dequbed> It's part of EsperNet IRC but you can also join via Discord
L400[21:07:22] <dequbed> %discord
L401[21:07:23] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L402[21:07:26] <dequbed> ^
L403[21:07:30] <Sammyhus> Im reaching you from a computer in opencomputers
L404[21:07:31] <Amanda> most of us aren't even in MC right meow
L405[21:07:47] <Sammyhus> ok
L406[21:07:48] <dequbed> I'm writing a compiler for example. Not in MC, not even for MC
L407[21:08:17] <Sammyhus> ok. If you know, is there a way to get onto google.com from MineOS?
L408[21:08:36] <dequbed> I don't think there is, google requires TLS that is beyond the capabilities of OC
L409[21:08:55] <Sammyhus> ok
L410[21:08:58] <Amanda> https works with the http api, but not raw sockets
L411[21:09:07] <dequbed> Ah nevermind then
L412[21:09:18] <Amanda> but a browser is outside the capability of OC
L413[21:09:26] <dequbed> But I don't think MineOS has a graphic HTML renderer.
L414[21:09:34] <Sammyhus> ok
L415[21:11:38] <Sammyhus> any must have apps on MineOS?
L416[21:11:45] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L417[21:11:45] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat DaCompu​terNerd's previous record of 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds (By 2 hours, 30 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L418[21:11:46] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.42580211. Position #2 Need 0.17545553 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L419[21:12:27] <dequbed> Sammyhus: Few of us use MineOS at all, it's somewhat antithetical to why we use OC. If you want specific MineOS help and tips we'll be of little help.
L420[21:13:21] <dequbed> If you're able to speak Russian I think there are russian channels where MineOS is more popular and you'll get more help for it specifically
L421[21:14:19] <Sammyhus> ok. I dont speak russian, so I'll see if I can find something online.
L422[21:14:35] <dequbed> Good luck on your search :)
L423[21:15:51] <Sammyhus> thanks :)
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L425[21:16:13] <Elfi> Maybe I should make one of those classic DOS file manager-style shells for OC to start using :P
L426[21:16:25] <dequbed> Elfi: Yes yes you should ;)
L427[21:16:58] <Elfi> Yeah, and maybe I'll make that JRPG as well, hah
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L434[21:51:03] <Lizzy> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjmIu5qXcAYLQXi?format=jpg&name=large
L435[21:51:33] <dequbed> Ouch.
L436[21:51:57] <Forec​aster> that's fine, just shovel them up and pour them back in
L437[21:52:17] <Forec​aster> you'll just have to move the directories back in order afterwards
L438[21:56:15] * Elfi screm
L439[21:59:26] <bad at​ vijya> o h n o
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L441[22:25:27] <Michiyo> oof.
L442[22:40:24] <Kristo​pher38> Did that... Fall?
L443[22:40:49] <Kristo​pher38> How?
L444[22:43:06] <CompanionCube> iirc the server is actually already no longer used
L445[22:44:12] <Amanda> 5 more components
L446[22:44:29] <Amanda> and I'll be in spaaace
L447[22:45:35] <dequbed> Amanda: https://mastodon.chaosfield.at/system/media_attachments/files/000/183/539/original/73d3f1d7f6fe6172.mp4
L448[22:46:24] <Michiyo> WTF is that?! lol
L449[22:46:56] <Amanda> RNG?
L450[22:47:02] <dequbed> Michiyo: An accidental stable outcome of an algorithm
L451[22:47:12] <dequbed> No, precisely not. Splitters are algorithmic, not random
L452[22:47:33] <dequbed> And it just so happened that this one has several metastable outcomes
L453[22:48:14] <dequbed> If the item pressure sags for any reason whatsoever it'll be amplified and look more like you'd expect from a splitter. But since with creative item creation the item pressure is always as high as it will go this is metastable
L454[22:48:47] <dequbed> But I actually just wanted to make a few blueprints for lane splitters <.<
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L456[23:04:11] <Amanda> Spaaaaace https://nc.ddna.co/s/N4Xm8rXp4FNpHCE
L457[23:04:59] <dequbed> Amanda: I was about to say open SE and continue playing there but then I remembered you have this space exploration mod
L458[23:05:59] <Amanda> haha
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L464[23:37:48] <Ariri> Eh... are you okay computer? https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/mYPgpzfTrbkdQtH/preview
L465[23:38:13] <Amanda> I'm sure it'sfine
L466[23:47:36] <Ariri> Still can't even figure out if this is a ram problem, an os problem, or some phantom process leaking memory non-stop without any sign of itself
L467[23:48:22] <Ariri> Can't even open firefox anymore >.>
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