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L2[00:09:30] <CompanionCube> wouldn't it be more a GPU Problem?
L3[00:10:57] <Ariri> I dont think so, I updated the gpu drivers just a few weeks ago, and everything crashes when it over-commits itself
L4[00:11:26] <Ariri> Its dumping everything into page files because the memory is full of standby, which constantly increases when I manually flush it
L5[00:13:46] <Ariri> Something is being continuously cached until the system OOMs and keels over, even without RAM being completely utilized
L6[00:17:01] <Ariri> CC: I just restarted and theres already 4.5gb of ram cached, with only 5.5gb of ram being used (6gb of which is free and 4.4gb on 'standby')
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L8[00:19:23] <Michi> <_<
L9[00:19:25] <Michi> >_>
L10[00:19:30] <Michi> %p
L11[00:19:31] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mi​chi 0.66s
L12[00:19:37] <Michi> Ok, wait wat
L13[00:19:48] <Michi> %p Michiyo
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L15[00:20:35] <Michi> Oh, right MichiBot is running on Lizzy's box.
L16[00:20:38] <Michi> there I go
L17[00:24:26] <Michi> ffs
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L20[01:13:19] <Michi> sooo all of my VMs have dropped networking
L21[01:13:44] <CompanionCube> rip
L22[01:14:14] <Amanda> :D
L23[01:15:43] <bad at​ vijya> hell fucking yeah ipmitool is working
L24[01:15:50] <bad at​ vijya> my watchdog idea will work
L25[01:16:16] <Ocawes​ome101> hey izaya supertuxkart works on haiku now as of v1.2
L26[01:16:41] <bad at​ vijya> i wonder if it can power cycle if the computer hangs
L27[01:16:43] <bad at​ vijya> hm
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L29[01:25:12] <Michi> ffs... can't reboot from ssh having to reboot via OVH panel
L30[01:28:14] <Michi> great... Dedi isn't fucking responding now
L31[01:28:18] <Michi> fuck me.
L32[01:30:32] <Michi> I'm gonna go cry in a corner
L33[01:30:34] <Michi> brb
L34[01:31:31] <Ariri> D:
L35[01:34:25] <bad at​ vijya> power cycle on hang works
L36[01:34:30] <bad at​ vijya> but i have to do my own power cycle
L37[01:34:40] <bad at​ vijya> sending `chassis power cycle` will get it stuck in a bootloop
L38[01:35:04] <bad at​ vijya> sending `chassis power off`, waiting 3 seconds, then sending `chassis power on` has the same effects as turning it on and off with the button
L39[01:35:05] <bad at​ vijya> weird.jpeg
L40[01:36:32] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: and minetest
L41[01:43:29] <Izaya> hm
L42[01:43:37] <Izaya> I finished the Hyperion Cantos
L43[01:43:49] <Izaya> Now I need to decide on something else to read
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L49[01:59:28] <dequbed> Amanda: Well it turns out that if you forget to update IO tiles your compiler starts doing fun stuff like chaining assembling machines because that used to be valid the last turn: https://imgur.com/a/shUFWjP
L50[02:00:36] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/sNdXRlSAT54hcclv/u2-DPbWuQp2ljEKOhXbdBA.jpg
L51[02:00:52] <Amanda> ah yes, the stapleof Factorio, wire into wire!
L52[02:01:46] <dequbed> Amanda: At first I was happy that the solver found a solution (the solver is *really* bad at the moment) but then I pasted it and was like " ... oh ._."
L53[02:06:24] <Amanda> hehehe
L54[02:06:44] <Amanda> maybe some basic stats would be helpful at the end of the run, such as width/height of the blueprint?
L55[02:07:21] <Amanda> oh wait, that would be decent if the middle was the circuits instead of wire
L56[02:07:28] <Amanda> ( and one of the thingies flipped )
L57[02:10:54] <dequbed> Amanda: Yes but a solution like that relies on heavy pattern matching, which is way beyond the compiler at the moment. For now it's doing a very simple left/top to right/bottom approach where each step is tried to be placed further right/down than the last step and it always tries to not use belts but direct inserters first.
L58[02:18:13] <dequbed> Amanda: But anymeow, I'll call it a night here. But I feel like I'm more than half way to my personal first release goal - being able to compile the description I have for a green circuit factory.
L59[02:21:09] <Amanda> hehe
L60[02:21:28] <Amanda> Damn, Charon's gota lot of moons: https://nc.ddna.co/s/LfrSdrMNanTik7X
L61[02:21:53] <Amanda> I assume there's at least 2-3 more from the distancing
L62[02:33:25] <bad at​ vijya> solitary http://tinyurl.com/y235k5y4
L63[03:10:27] <Ariri> Part of me thinks Windows GC is as good as Java's... so I may have a solution...
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L67[03:32:10] <CompanionCube> OSes don't have GC.
L68[03:36:55] <Amanda> oh hey... I've got a second rocket ready
L69[03:37:23] <Amanda> %choose spaaace; right meow or tomorrow
L70[03:37:23] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: right meow spaaace
L71[03:47:16] <Amanda> ... veto'd -- I'm barely keeping my eyes open
L72[03:47:43] * Amanda tucks in around elfi, hopes she can remember what all she was even going to do in spaaace tomorrow meowning
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L74[04:11:02] <Amanda> %remindme 7h spaaaace. Scaffoldimg and place the science lab
L75[04:11:02] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "spaaaace. Scaffoldimg and place the science lab" at 10/08/2020 11:11:01 AM
L76[04:11:59] * Amanda drapes her tail over elfi, uses the end as a pillow
L77[04:12:02] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L85[05:11:40] <Snai​lDOS> I love diet pi
L86[05:21:41] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L87[05:21:41] <MichiBot> Yay! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 8 hours, 9 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L88[05:21:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 8 hours, 9 minutes and 55 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00817)
L89[05:23:47] <Izaya> https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1151/images/24420-0-1496126228.png
L90[05:25:54] <ThePi​Guy24> needs more kalash
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L95[07:15:01] <Michiyo> lol...
L96[07:15:10] <Michiyo> I.. basically stored ZNC styled logs in the DB.
L97[07:15:50] <Michiyo> I.. just have to do [timestamp] message
L98[07:15:53] <Michiyo> <_<
L99[07:15:54] <Michiyo> >_>
L100[07:15:55] <Michiyo> Neat.
L101[07:16:45] <Michiyo> Message is literally <nick> Message
L102[07:16:59] <Michiyo> even joins are ZNC styled.
L103[07:20:04] <Michiyo> Which... thinking back makes sense.. I modifed the ZNC parser on the old ssstats install
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L105[07:39:54] <Michiyo> welp, that looks to be working
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L109[08:19:05] <Forec​aster> Woooo
L110[08:30:19] <Michiyo> shit
L111[08:30:27] <Michiyo> I... just imported all the logs for stats..
L112[08:30:34] <Michiyo> and the sqlitedb is fucked
L113[08:35:51] <Michiyo> Trying to access array offset on value of type null >_>
L114[08:36:02] <Michiyo> Don't you just LOVE it when stuff works then suddenly stops? lol
L115[08:38:52] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/ssstats/oc/ There we go
L116[08:39:07] <Forec​aster> Yes definitely
L117[08:39:45] <Forec​aster> It's especially enjoyable when it takes an entire day to fix it too
L118[08:41:08] <Michiyo> Yeaaaaah
L119[08:41:17] <Michiyo> Also, I'm less than 1k lines from overtaking Vex
L120[08:41:28] <Vexatos> Oh no
L121[08:41:29] <Vexatos> :(
L122[08:41:42] <Vexatos> I am being replaced
L123[08:41:46] <Michiyo> Indeed.
L124[08:42:29] <Vexatos> I didn't know I talked that much in here anyway
L125[08:42:43] <Michiyo> Well, stats thinks you have
L126[08:42:47] <Michiyo> at the very least
L127[08:43:11] <Vexatos> maybe it's just because I've been here the longest of many
L128[08:43:46] <Vexatos> so it's time rather than frequency
L129[08:44:48] <Forec​aster> It's cumulative lines over time
L130[08:44:59] <Forec​aster> Not frequency
L131[08:45:22] <Vexatos> michiyo and I have been here for about the same amount of time I think
L132[08:45:51] <Michiyo> My earliest log entry is 2014-01-31, yours is 2014-01-25
L133[08:46:09] <Forec​aster> I've been here the same amount of time
L134[08:46:23] <Vexatos> Oh right, before 2014 I didn't really use IRC
L135[08:46:31] <Michiyo> I think some of these early logs are ACTUALLY from #opencomputers
L136[08:46:38] <Forec​aster> Though I only lurked for a long time
L137[08:48:06] <Forec​aster> %sip
L138[08:48:06] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy aether potion (New!). Forecaster feels like a champion!
L139[08:48:23] <Forec​aster> And yet I'm getting closer to the top :P
L140[08:50:11] <Michiyo> current search, searching for "Vexatos" takes 1.9 seconds
L141[08:50:21] <Michiyo> not bad.. seeing as he's in basically EVERY log :P
L142[08:50:27] <Vexatos> search for "vex"
L143[08:50:29] <Vexatos> for bonus points
L144[08:50:31] <Vexatos> because that pings me too
L145[08:50:59] <Michiyo> "This process used 1890 ms for its computations It spent 182 ms in system calls"
L146[08:51:10] <Michiyo> Honestly I think it takes longer to RENDER the page, than to search
L147[08:51:22] <Vexatos> not unlikely
L148[08:51:46] <Vexatos> honesly wasn't expecting to be in the top 3 people here, especially considering I barely talked in the past 3 years
L149[08:51:53] <Vexatos> I must really have been here a lot back in the day
L150[08:55:31] <Forec​aster> Building the html always takes longer
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L152[08:58:23] <ThePi​Guy24> just return the raw data and let the users brain do the rendering
L153[09:17:43] <Forec​aster> Ugh, moving furniture is hard work
L154[09:17:47] <Forec​aster> :|
L155[09:27:51] <Shado​w_8472> Do robots sometimes go spontaniously missing?
L156[09:29:00] <Shado​w_8472> Never mind, I found my two robots... invisible, but WAILA is cycling through all possible names, and their upgrades appear to be broken.
L157[09:29:04] <Shado​w_8472> What's going on?
L158[09:30:11] <Shado​w_8472> *XP upgrades.
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L160[09:30:19] <Shado​w_8472> But their picks appear correctly.
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L164[09:31:20] <Shado​w_8472> Last time something like this happened, I rolled back about two minutes total worth of play. This time, I'm not so lucky.
L165[09:32:49] <Shado​w_8472> I'm scared here.
L166[09:33:41] <Shado​w_8472> Could it be because they tried interacting with a chest in a semi-loaded chunk?
L167[09:34:25] <Shado​w_8472> *While they themselves were in entity processing chunks.
L168[09:37:44] <Vexatos> ugh, so apparently our email addresses at work are written on the website in plain text, and now we're getting spam to apparently my prof's surprise
L169[09:38:15] <ThePi​Guy24> oh no who could have forseen that
L170[09:38:21] <Vexatos> does anyone here happen to know how the heck typo3 works >_<
L171[09:39:30] <Shado​w_8472> A screenshot wouldn't catch my problem.
L172[09:44:04] <Shado​w_8472> I can spam trying to interact with a glitched robot, and it appears all its upgrade containers are missing.
L173[09:44:15] <Shado​w_8472> Only the tool appears like it should.
L174[09:45:44] <Shado​w_8472> Tools have reasonable duribility, and appear to be enchanted still.
L175[09:47:02] <Shado​w_8472> I'm scared to even reboot the world.
L176[09:50:08] <Shado​w_8472> Only 2 out of 3 of my diamond experience robots are affected.
L177[09:50:42] <Shado​w_8472> Could it be something at the end of the dig program before they turn around the last time?
L178[09:51:51] <Vexatos> ...the website actually has an email obfuscation feature
L179[09:52:03] <Vexatos> but my prof entered the addresses as plaintext instead of mail links
L180[09:52:09] <Vexatos> so they didn't get detected as mail addresses
L181[09:52:10] <Vexatos> bless
L182[09:55:12] <Shado​w_8472> Oh, if this doesn't self-correct, I could be out my best XP upgrade.
L183[10:11:02] <Saphire> Vexatos: uhm
L184[10:11:14] <Saphire> ...cloudflare is VERY overzealous with obfuscating email
L185[10:11:28] <Vexatos> what is a cloudflare
L186[10:14:01] <Kristo​pher38> a flare of clouds, obviously
L187[10:18:35] <Vexatos> not sure why you mention cloudflare, is all
L188[10:19:55] <ThePi​Guy24> cloudfare is horrifying
L189[10:20:19] * Saphire stabs c.c
L190[10:20:35] <Shado​w_8472> Can someone help me sort through the known bugs for something similar/the same as what I'm experiencing?
L191[10:22:05] <Shado​w_8472> Or I can continue to make a new report.
L192[10:32:32] <Saphire> @Shadow_8472: I think your minecraft is haunted
L193[10:32:40] <Saphire> This is my professional opinion
L194[10:32:42] * Saphire nodnods
L195[10:37:55] <Shado​w_8472> And I believe Jesus keeps the spooks out of my family's house. (Server is on an old machine on-site).
L196[10:38:30] * Ariri nods with Saphire
L197[10:40:49] <Shado​w_8472> Looks like bridge bots don't ping Discord anymore, if they ever did.
L198[10:42:11] <Ariri> Discord pings aren't actually parsed in plain text, which is probably why. Some have scripts to ping people though
L199[10:43:20] <Shado​w_8472> Ah.
L200[10:44:17] <Shado​w_8472> Am I to suppose you assume unwholsome supernatural activity is responsible for my possibly reproducable bug?
L201[10:44:51] <Shado​w_8472> *You too
L202[10:45:47] <Forec​aster> No, it's because there was a : immediately after
L203[10:46:02] <Forec​aster> The name had to be followed by whitespace
L204[10:46:14] <Forec​aster> has*
L205[10:47:11] <Saphire> ...
L206[10:47:17] <Saphire> That sounds dumb
L207[10:51:53] <Shado​w_8472> Almost done with the bug report on Github.
L208[10:52:13] <Ariri> @Ariri
L209[10:52:40] <Ariri> Huh, whaddya know
L210[10:52:56] <Ariri> til
L211[10:57:55] <Shado​w_8472> Is the term "Lazy Chunks" common enough to use in a bug report?
L212[11:00:07] <Shado​w_8472> I'm going to dig one glitched bot out. I hope all my upgrades pop out.
L213[11:02:11] <Shado​w_8472> Looks like I was worried for not much. I have it back, though I'm still finishing my report. Would be interesting to log out/in as well as unload/load the area and see if that fixes it.
L214[11:11:02] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: spaaaace. Scaffoldimg and place the science lab
L215[11:39:39] <Forec​aster> %sip
L216[11:39:39] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy diamond potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes glow cyan until the next time they hug someone.
L217[11:51:38] <Amanda> Saphire: it's because discord nicks can contain : so it might be a case of someone named foo:
L218[11:52:05] <ThePi​Guy24> they can also contain spaces
L219[11:52:30] <Amanda> Which is why there's a @ "foo bar"
L220[11:53:10] <ThePi​Guy24> they can also contain " :p
L221[11:55:17] <Amanda> Then tough shit for them :D
L222[11:59:41] <Amanda> Though I think Michiyo tested and determined " wasn't valid
L223[12:03:54] <ThePiG​uy24 ":> seems to work for me
L224[12:04:52] <Amanda> vOv
L225[12:04:59] <Amanda> Oh well, no more pings for you then. :D
L226[12:06:11] <Amanda> Saphire: "obfuscates email" except when it comes to reports of abuse. Then they forward the email and realname entered unmangled or privitised to the respective site. :D
L227[12:06:52] <Amanda> Fuck Cloudflare.
L228[12:07:02] <ThePi​Guy24> indeed
L229[12:09:11] <Forec​aster> I'd just make it so it matches whitespace, `,`, and `:`
L230[12:09:22] <Forec​aster> if a name ends with one of those you'd just have to quote it
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L234[12:27:19] <R​ph> AFAIK the cloudflare email obfuscation is relatively trivial to reverse, isn't it?
L235[12:27:38] <R​ph> Since it's all client side JS, worst case scenario you can run it with node+jsdom
L236[12:29:20] <Amanda> That's true for most email obfuscation
L237[12:29:34] <Amanda> If not all
L238[12:30:22] <Amanda> If the email is wanted to be displayed on the web, it'll be found by spammers no matter what, it just might take longer
L239[12:33:01] <Forec​aster> on my site I just have a js request to the backend that fetches and displays my contact information when you click the center hex
L240[12:38:07] <Forec​aster> I realize one could just take that url from the page and query it and get the email address
L241[12:38:22] <Forec​aster> I should probably have it be scrambled in some way until parsed by the page
L242[12:41:17] <Amanda> I mean
L243[12:41:49] <Amanda> a truely dedicated address-finder could run a headless chrome/firefox, then find emails in the finally-rendered html
L244[12:43:52] <Amanda> dequbed: are the grey boxes with arrows these "un/loaders" I've heard mentioned in a few places? What's the advantages to them, and what would you recommend as a mod for them?
L245[12:44:00] <Amanda> dequbed: er, meant to include this link:https://mastodon.chaosfield.at/system/media_attachments/files/000/183/539/original/73d3f1d7f6fe6172.mp4
L246[12:47:12] <Forec​aster> there are no emails in the html until you click the non-link button
L247[12:47:51] <Amanda> I mean, there's also the practice of taking over popular extensions that the developer's sick of, and inserting ads / email scrapers into them
L248[12:48:10] <Amanda> basically, it's an arms race, one we've lost.
L249[12:55:14] <Amanda> %choose oil refinery; keep local or move remote
L250[12:55:14] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: keep local oil refinery
L251[13:12:15] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/Y-YS8-T2aSY
L252[13:12:16] <MichiBot> Gloria Estefan - Conga (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli) | length: 4m 46s | Likes: 18,680 Dislikes: 216 Views: 244,827 | by Frog Leap Studios | Published On 2/10/2020
L253[13:16:58] <dequbed> Amanda: Ah so those are loaders by the creative mod. But I have used a standalone loader mod before - they are rather useful for super-scaled factories. For example I had a factory that did most high-throughput by large train (latency++ but bandwidth++++), most main ones 4:12. I used loaders for an unloading station that took 6s per train by using 10 unloaders per cart.
L254[13:17:21] <dequbed> They basically produce a full pressured belt of whatever colour you make them out of an inventory or into an inventory
L255[13:17:43] <dequbed> but differnt to inserters they can only go from belt to inventory or vice versa and not from inventory to inventory.
L256[13:18:24] <Amanda> ah,that sounds useful for train station buffer unloading
L257[13:18:57] <dequbed> Would I recommend them? Maybe. They put insane loads on your item distribution network if you want to use them to their fullest extend so unless you design your entire factory around that kind of pulsed super-high-bandwidth item pressure you will get less usage out of them than you might think
L258[13:19:11] <Amanda> ah
L259[13:19:47] <dequbed> Amanda: Yes but only if you can use the items at that speed. Like there are few situations where unloading a train in 6s vs 14s with upgraded stack inserters makes a notable difference. At least I think it was 14s.
L260[13:20:03] <Amanda> fair
L261[13:20:27] <dequbed> If you can't you just make your stations much more expensive and larger because you need train<->loader<->loader<->chest for buffering vs train<->inserter<->chest.
L262[13:20:27] <Amanda> Yeah, looking at my remote smeltery, and it seems the bottleneck isn't even close to being from the unloading
L263[13:20:53] <dequbed> my factory did not have buffering in chests at the train stations at all, only buffering in the belt system leading to the usage points.
L264[13:21:38] <dequbed> So it was station->huge balancing network->smeltery with no buffers other than the belts being story by themselves.
L265[13:21:48] <dequbed> s/story/storage/g
L266[13:21:50] <MichiBot> <dequbed> So it was station->huge balancing network->smeltery with no buffers other than the belts being storage by themselves.
L267[13:22:46] <dequbed> Amanda: incidentally, building that factory made me want to automate the layout part as well, being partly to blame for vfdl ;)
L268[13:24:07] <dequbed> Like one of the features I'll want the most is N:M balancing and {N:M; N,M = X^2} perfect balancing.
L269[13:24:28] <Amanda> gaga
L270[13:24:30] <Amanda> haha*
L271[13:24:41] <dequbed> Well yes that's also gaga but hello have you met me?
L272[13:25:06] <Amanda> Here's my remote refinery, right takes in copper/iron ore, left outputs copper/iron/steel plates https://nc.ddna.co/s/dMnNnxGFaB8sqsM
L273[13:25:11] <dequbed> Because designing a 120:64 balancer was decidently not fun.
L274[13:25:26] <Amanda> considering making it process stone -> Stone bricks as well
L275[13:25:39] <dequbed> Aw that's cute
L276[13:26:23] <Amanda> I think I need to rearrange the unloading belts so that the front car goes into one half, the back car the other, because I keep getting unbalanced train car loads
L277[13:27:05] <dequbed> A thing I wanted to design once but haven't gotten around to yet is a large smelter that reassignes lanes based on need so if I need more iron/copper more lanes will be used to smelt iron/copper ore
L278[13:27:05] <Amanda> the unloading times out, and then LTN bitches about the train leaving with resources, because the back car has the resources, when the front unloading is where it was needed
L279[13:28:28] <dequbed> I think LTN doesn't deal with mixed trains at all, does it?
L280[13:28:50] <Amanda> nope, but I've kinda-figured out how to handle mixed stations,at least when using logistics
L281[13:29:41] <Amanda> but every train will only ever carry one type of resource
L282[13:30:01] <dequbed> Mixed stations sounds like a pain as well :P
L283[13:30:03] <Amanda> but at the same time, any train can be called upon to handle anything
L284[13:30:22] <Amanda> well, every item train can be called upon to handle items, any fluid to handle fluids
L285[13:32:46] <Amanda> %choose time for electric trains?
L286[13:32:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Yes! Do it now!
L287[13:34:59] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L288[13:34:59] <MichiBot> Hooray! Squi​dDev! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 8 hours, 9 minutes and 55 seconds (By 3 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L289[13:35:00] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.007 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.13024584. Position #3 Need 0.29555627 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L290[13:35:14] <Forec​aster> d:
L291[13:35:16] <Forec​aster> D:
L292[13:35:20] <SquidDev> Sorry, I couldn't resist.
L293[13:35:41] <SquidDev> You don't need any more of a lead :p.
L294[13:36:02] <Forec​aster> yes I do!
L295[13:36:12] <Forec​aster> I need to overtake CC again D:
L296[13:37:18] <SquidDev> You and me both. These shells are very annoying when you're on the receiving end D:
L297[13:37:29] <Forec​aster> tell me about it
L298[13:37:39] <Forec​aster> who's bright idea were they anyway D:<
L299[13:46:50] <Lizzy> %tonkleaders
L300[13:46:50] <MichiBot> Li​zzy: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L301[13:47:05] <Lizzy> lol i'm still 4th
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L304[14:03:53] <Elfi> The only winning move is not to play
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L307[15:09:50] <superminor2> I don't understand the tonk thing :(
L308[15:10:21] <SquidDev> First just say "%tonk".
L309[15:10:28] <SquidDev> Then wait for someone else to steal it from you.
L310[15:24:32] <Michiyo> the page linked above has a decent description on it.
L311[15:35:19] <Amanda> I should really have the logistics train stop coming into the middle of the base,instead of the side
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L313[15:59:17] <Ariri> %tonk
L314[15:59:17] <MichiBot> Hooray! Ar​iri! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 24 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L315[15:59:18] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 2 hours, 24 minutes and 17 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.0024 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.23584 more points to pass simo​n816!
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L321[16:53:39] <Forec​aster> Michito, Amanda, Lizzy I'm going to sell about 800 tons of diamonds now
L322[16:53:59] *** Michiyo is now known as Michito
L323[16:54:08] * Michito wonders where her new nick came from
L324[16:54:22] <Forec​aster> Michiyo has become a fancy drink
L325[16:54:25] <Michito> :P
L326[16:55:07] <Michito> I... don't think I have E:D installed ATM
L327[16:55:08] <Michito> oof.
L328[16:55:18] <Michito> checking...
L329[16:55:29] <Forec​aster> we're going to the Haghole system
L330[16:58:04] <Michito> I did have it installed, attempting to load now
L331[16:59:32] *** Michito is now known as Michiyo
L332[16:59:48] <Michiyo> Need to make the webhook avatar system use nickserv idents if available
L333[16:59:59] <Forec​aster> jumping in 13 minutes
L334[17:01:25] <Michiyo> I'm in and still docked
L335[17:02:05] <Michiyo> I'm also working, so my replies may be delayed
L336[17:02:16] <Michiyo> crap... my HOTAS is disconnected
L337[17:02:33] <Forec​aster> plug in an xbox controller or something
L338[17:05:16] <Michiyo> I'll have to learn to fly with an xbox controller :P
L339[17:05:47] <Michiyo> But yeah, I have one connected anyway as I use it for other games
L340[17:10:21] <Michiyo> KLAAAAXON
L341[17:13:13] <Michiyo> Haghole....
L342[17:13:15] <Michiyo> lol
L343[17:13:23] <Inari> lewd
L344[17:14:08] <Michiyo> SO MANY KLAXONS
L345[17:14:09] <Michiyo> lol
L346[17:14:14] <Forec​aster> the destination is Messerschmid City
L347[17:14:22] <Forec​aster> it's 800 Ls away
L348[17:14:43] <Michiyo> I.. have no idea how to play this game with an xbox controller, sooo give me a minute lmao
L349[17:14:44] <Forec​aster> oh, 12k Ls actually
L350[17:15:28] <Forec​aster> .. I took off
L351[17:15:37] <Forec​aster> then I realized I didn't load anything...
L352[17:15:41] <Forec​aster> so now I'm docking again
L353[17:15:49] <Michiyo> lol
L354[17:15:53] <Michiyo> I'm gonna head that way
L355[17:16:44] <Forec​aster> you also need to accept the wing request
L356[17:16:49] <Michiyo> yeaaah
L357[17:16:53] <Michiyo> I'm trying to work out how t o do that
L358[17:16:58] <Michiyo> AND how to throttle up lmao
L359[17:17:24] <Forec​aster> I can't help you I have a custom control scheme for my controller :P
L360[17:17:53] <Michiyo> ffs I deployed a hard point.
L361[17:17:58] <Michiyo> god damn it I miss my hotas
L362[17:21:16] <Michiyo> fuck it
L363[17:21:17] <Michiyo> IDK
L364[17:21:20] <Michiyo> do it without me
L365[17:21:54] <Forec​aster> kay :P
L366[17:22:07] <bad at​ vijya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bCh7nUwt4
L367[17:22:07] <MichiBot> Ace Combat 3 - Linkage (Mothership Loudspeakerz Remix) | length: 7m | Likes: 261 Dislikes: 3 Views: 10,591 | by Mothership Loudspeakerz | Published On 15/2/2020
L368[17:22:39] <bad at​ vijya> also while i'm here
L369[17:22:50] <bad at​ vijya> zomg
L370[17:22:56] <Michiyo> I'm going to *TRY* to land back on the carrier
L371[17:23:01] <Michiyo> though I may not be able to do that
L372[17:23:01] <bad at​ vijya> i have a MYSTERY BLACK BOX on my server!!!!
L373[17:23:12] <bad at​ vijya> where's my phone
L374[17:23:52] <bad at​ vijya> http://tinyurl.com/y4748glc
L375[17:24:13] <Michiyo> that's the main issue I have with E:D the sheer number of fucking buttons.
L376[17:24:15] <Michiyo> <_<
L377[17:24:48] <Kristo​pher38> looks like raspi2
L378[17:25:02] <Forec​aster> controller + keyboard works well enough
L379[17:25:09] <bad at​ vijya> raspi3
L380[17:25:12] <Michiyo> Yeah IF you have time to customize everything.
L381[17:25:19] <bad at​ vijya> i really should be using a pi1 or pi2 for this but w/e
L382[17:25:59] <bad at​ vijya> regardless, it acts as a watchdog for my PE2950
L383[17:26:04] <Forec​aster> I've just bound stuff over time, and far from everything
L384[17:26:49] <Forec​aster> oh, price isn't even half of what was listed on Inara
L385[17:26:52] <Forec​aster> nogo
L386[17:26:52] <Michiyo> I just didn't want to make you wait for me to try to figure out how to customize a ton of shit
L387[17:26:57] <Michiyo> so *shrug*
L388[17:27:14] <Michiyo> I couldn't even FIND the stuff I wanted to find buttons for
L389[17:27:24] <Forec​aster> I'm not in a hurry :P
L390[17:27:49] <Forec​aster> and now I'll have to try another system anyway
L391[17:31:02] <Forec​aster> did you make it back onto the carrier?
L392[17:36:52] <Michiyo> I did
L393[17:36:53] <Michiyo> yes
L394[17:37:04] <Michiyo> I'm really glad I switched back to a ship with autodoc
L395[17:37:32] <Forec​aster> okay, I shut it down, we can try again some other time :P
L396[17:37:47] <Forec​aster> again, I'm in no hurry, I've got a few weeks worth of upkeep still
L397[17:40:41] <Amanda> I made a mess... https://nc.ddna.co/s/G3segG5JaaRq7kW
L398[17:41:18] <Forec​aster> woops
L399[17:43:49] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> Don't do that
L400[17:48:23] <Michiyo> Ok I'm in E:D trying to track down the fucking button for the UI to accept fleet stuff
L401[17:48:34] <Michiyo> fleet wing
L402[17:48:36] <Michiyo> whatever
L403[17:48:46] <Michiyo> I'm also trying not to murder co-workers
L404[17:49:31] <Michiyo> Comms panel?
L405[17:49:34] <Michiyo> it's fucking unbound.
L406[17:49:35] <Michiyo> ffs
L407[17:50:19] <Michiyo> OH FUCKIN LOOK AT THAT.
L408[17:50:20] <Izaya> E:D is the sort of game that makes you want a second keyboard
L409[17:50:27] <Michiyo> Bound it and suddenly it works!
L410[17:50:32] <Michiyo> I can now open the fuckin comms panel
L411[17:50:39] <Forec​aster> yaay
L412[17:57:35] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: E:D is the sort of game that makes me want to make my own HID with a Pi Zero and a touchscreen LCD
L413[17:58:03] <Izaya> consider
L414[17:58:38] <dequbed> Izaya: https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQxWDE2MDA=/z/fB4AAOSwTM5Yx~9c/$_57.JPG
L415[17:58:47] <Izaya> A laptop above your keyboard running a program parsing your E:D logs and spewing xdotool commands over ssh
L416[17:59:35] <bad at​ vijya> kek
L417[17:59:39] <bad at​ vijya> i do want like
L418[17:59:43] <bad at​ vijya> a few touchscreen LCDs
L419[17:59:47] <bad at​ vijya> with different buttons and all
L420[18:00:15] <bad at​ vijya> sliders
L421[18:00:16] <bad at​ vijya> the like
L422[18:00:19] <Forec​aster> there's an android app made for E:D that I tried a long time ago
L423[18:00:32] <bad at​ vijya> my phone's screen isn't big enough
L424[18:00:46] <Forec​aster> I used it on a tablet
L425[18:04:13] <Izaya> Half inclined to write my own parser for E:D log files so I can work on utils for it
L426[18:04:25] <Izaya> Because only having EDMC kinda sucks
L427[18:05:00] <bad at​ vijya> i
L428[18:05:03] <bad at​ vijya> don't have a tablet
L429[18:05:23] <Forec​aster> well that sounds like a not-having-a-tablet problem
L430[18:05:57] <Michiyo> Hmm, I DO have a tablet...
L431[18:06:05] <Michiyo> I found https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/8wpeem/turning_a_tablet_into_a_touch_panel_for_ship/
L432[18:06:25] <bad at​ vijya> w/e man
L433[18:07:19] <Forec​aster> that wasn't what I was using back then (I don't remember what it was, but it was black and orange), but neat
L434[18:09:09] <Izaya> dequbed: what is that?
L435[18:09:47] <Michiyo> That's a 128 key programmable keyboard.
L436[18:09:48] <Michiyo> :P
L437[18:09:55] <Michiyo> looks like the kind with little oled keys
L438[18:10:06] <Forec​aster> I doubt the LEA app would work on my ancient tablet though
L439[18:10:08] <Izaya> Thought as much
L440[18:10:33] <dequbed> Izaya: Not OLED but rather pure LED and you can print your own legend on paper to insert
L441[18:10:46] <dequbed> They are rather common for industrial control applications because they are super cheap to specialize
L442[18:10:58] <Michiyo> Ah, that's neat too. I've been wanting one with the oled keys so you can display moving stuff on 'em
L443[18:11:07] <Izaya> ... how much is such a device?
L444[18:11:16] <dequbed> https://storefront.expertkeys.com/3-tastaturen
L445[18:11:39] <dequbed> That's the german counterpart but I think they are all manufactured in china by some no-name brand so you'll probably find them closer and cheaper to you
L446[18:12:17] <Forec​aster> that's a fair amount of monies for the big one
L447[18:12:54] <Michiyo> 217.52 usd
L448[18:12:56] <Michiyo> ouch
L449[18:12:56] <Forec​aster> although for E:D the middle one would probably suffice
L450[18:12:59] <Michiyo> but waaaaantz
L451[18:13:30] <Forec​aster> the middle one is about $170
L452[18:13:59] <dequbed> Michiyo: Again I'd assume you can get them for cheaper directly from china or from a company like P.I.Engineering https://xkeys.com/xkeys/keys.html
L453[18:14:14] <Forec​aster> oh neat, the keys have little caps on them you put the labels under
L454[18:14:44] <dequbed> @Forecaster exactly. The experkeys one comes with a layout for OpenOffice to put in your normal printer. They are quite neat
L455[18:14:46] <Forec​aster> $219.95 for the middle one on that site, that's more expensive...
L456[18:15:22] <Forec​aster> I also want one...
L457[18:15:34] <Izaya> Rack mounted keys
L458[18:15:55] <Izaya> Hmmmm
L459[18:19:07] <dequbed> Forecaster, Michiyo, Izaya anyway, do have a look at the flight sim community regarding that. They have some large DIY experience building some extremely nice 'pits for surprisingly little moneys.
L460[18:20:15] <Forec​aster> I'm pretty happy with my current setup though
L461[18:20:31] <dequbed> You /just/ said you want one.
L462[18:20:45] <Forec​aster> want and need are two very different things
L463[18:20:47] <Forec​aster> :P
L464[18:21:02] <Forec​aster> I remember where the functions I use are for the most part, and if I don't I can just check the bind settings
L465[18:21:18] <dequbed> Yeah, I don't care. If you want to build something do, if you don't don't. Not my money, not my project, not my problem.
L466[18:22:41] <Forec​aster> oookay then
L467[18:25:21] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L468[18:25:22] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Forec​aster! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 2 hours, 24 minutes and 17 seconds (By 1 minute and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L469[18:25:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 26 minutes and 4 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00009 (0.00003 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.17536553 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L470[18:26:00] <Forec​aster> I thought it'd have gone longer than that...
L471[18:34:24] <Michiyo> I *LOVE* work meetings that run long
L472[18:34:28] <Michiyo> They're my fav!
L473[18:34:42] <Michiyo> I also love customers that try to throw me under a bus
L474[18:34:57] <Forec​aster> riding under buses is fun
L475[18:35:54] <Michiyo> Customer is trying to say that I changed the password on the backup drive we got from their previous vendor.
L476[18:35:59] <Michiyo> Which isn't even an OPTION.
L477[18:36:00] <Michiyo> but OK.
L478[18:41:23] <Forec​aster> and of course they have solid proof that this is the case
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L480[18:45:23] <Michiyo> it turns out the password they sent along with the drive had a typo..
L481[18:45:42] <Forec​aster> no no, clearly you changed it
L482[18:45:43] <Michiyo> they used a lowercase "L" where it was ACTUALLY an uppercase "i"
L483[18:45:54] <Michiyo> cause l and I look the same in the font they email with
L484[19:09:40] <Michiyo> Testing auto refresh
L485[19:09:50] <Michiyo> that's a no. damn
L486[19:10:15] <Michiyo> Oh hmm
L487[19:10:15] <Michiyo> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null
L488[19:11:23] <Michiyo> why is it dying in highlight_line_by_hash
L489[19:11:41] <Michiyo> OH
L490[19:11:51] <Michiyo> cause of the #bottom in the URL
L491[19:13:46] <Michiyo> wonder.. how it worked before..
L492[19:15:34] <Michiyo> Test
L493[19:16:01] <Michiyo> Ok, it's still broken though
L494[19:16:16] <Forec​aster> what are you doing?
L495[19:17:22] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2020-10-08.log&refresh#bottom is supposed to fire a window.setInterval to run every second to grab new content
L496[19:17:37] <Michiyo> this *worked* before the switch back so it's something I broke in the move
L497[19:17:46] <Michiyo> OH
L498[19:17:49] <Michiyo> I think it might be...
L499[19:18:04] <Michiyo> Yep.
L500[19:18:05] <Michiyo> shit.
L501[19:18:19] <Michiyo> it calls get_newest.php, which is still using the SQL stuff
L502[19:18:29] <Forec​aster> ah
L503[19:18:49] <Michiyo> I now have to figure out how to make *that* work lol
L504[19:19:13] <Michiyo> I need to tell PHP to only return lines from the log file newer than what I have.
L505[19:22:29] <Michiyo> ahh
L506[19:22:30] <Michiyo> ok
L507[19:22:31] <Michiyo> hmm
L508[19:23:17] * Inari hands Michiyo a copy of PIP
L509[19:25:49] <Michiyo> it may have been a long time since I've PHP'd
L510[19:25:49] <Michiyo> lol
L511[19:38:31] <Michiyo> Test
L512[19:38:43] <Michiyo> ok.. still not quiet
L513[19:38:48] <Michiyo> Oh no wait there it is
L514[19:38:57] <Michiyo> it.. missed "test" but it's "working" now
L515[19:39:08] <Michiyo> it's not pushing the bottom links down like it's supposed to
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L518[19:40:00] <Michiyo> Hmm
L519[19:40:08] <Michiyo> so it always misses the first message
L520[19:40:32] <Michiyo> Ok, testing that
L521[19:40:43] <Michiyo> Ok, that fixes that.. now to figure out why it's not putting the messages where they go
L522[19:42:03] <Michiyo> bah
L523[19:42:04] <Michiyo> hmm
L524[19:42:40] <Michiyo> .
L525[19:43:20] <Michiyo> .
L526[19:45:37] <Michiyo> testing
L527[19:45:40] <Michiyo> ffs
L528[19:48:16] <Michiyo> test3
L529[19:48:18] <Michiyo> yay
L530[19:48:26] <Michiyo> I forgot to add a closing div tag
L531[19:51:04] <Saphire> ...uhm
L532[19:51:13] <Saphire> Did cord die
L533[19:51:20] <Michiyo> If we're lucky!
L534[19:51:30] <ThePi​Guy24> no :p
L535[19:51:30] <Michiyo> bots up, and responding
L536[19:51:33] * Saphire headtilts?
L537[19:51:33] <Michiyo> Discord maybe slow?
L538[19:51:42] <ThePi​Guy24> discord is always slow
L539[19:51:42] <Saphire> What about closing divs..?
L540[19:51:44] <Saphire> Oh
L541[19:51:48] <Saphire> Chatlog
L542[19:51:54] <Michiyo> lol
L543[19:52:04] <Saphire> I am not tooooooo happy about google searchable chatlog here <.<
L544[19:52:45] <Saphire> Michiyo: also, how about long-polling HTTP GET?
L545[19:52:47] <ThePi​Guy24> cool now lets say something that will most likely put me on a watch list, provided im not on one already :p
L546[19:52:49] <Forec​aster> it's not new, it's been here for longer than this channel has existed
L547[19:53:00] <Saphire> Yeah I know, just a bit eh *shrug*
L548[19:54:09] <Izaya> I wonder what downsides long polling has for such a situation
L549[19:54:22] <CompanionCube> >implying you're not on one already
L550[19:54:23] <CompanionCube> lol
L551[19:54:27] <Izaya> I know on mobile it burns battery but if that's not a concern...
L552[19:54:41] <Michiyo> I've never heard of long polling
L553[19:55:21] <Forec​aster> > you must be at least this tall to poll
L554[19:56:16] * CompanionCube wonders what list ThePiGuy24's phrase would end up hgetting on :p
L555[19:56:51] <Izaya> I gather it's a poor man's way to do a one-way stream badly, over HTTP
L556[19:57:03] <Michiyo> Eh..
L557[19:57:28] <Izaya> Though I guess "badly" is redundant thanks to "over HTTP"
L558[19:57:48] <Michiyo> Izaya++
L559[19:57:48] <MichiBot> Michiyo: ShadowKatStudios now has 8 points
L560[19:58:12] <ThePi​Guy24> now imagine using that for a chat protocol, that would never be a good idea
L561[19:58:37] <Michiyo> Certain server architectures run one process per connection; resulting in there being as many processes as there are connections, while each process consumes quite a bit of memory. So, too many connections will just consume it all.
L562[19:58:37] <Michiyo> That’s often the case for backends written in languages like PHP and Ruby.
L563[19:58:38] <Izaya> It's simultaneously dumber and less dumb than websockets
L564[19:58:39] <Michiyo> Eh.....
L565[19:58:40] <Michiyo> lol
L566[19:59:26] <Michiyo> OR.. I can just leave it with JS polling a server script and updating the page. If you don't want to use JS, then you refresh the page.
L567[19:59:29] <Michiyo> lol
L568[19:59:44] <Izaya> meta refresh :^)
L569[19:59:49] <Michiyo> Or, join the channel, and lurk like a real user.
L570[20:00:29] <ThePi​Guy24> just make a script poll the logs 10 times a second to get the most uptodate logs :p
L571[20:00:47] <bad at​ vijya> i only chat over X.25 over telegraph
L572[20:01:14] <bad at​ vijya> take that how you will
L573[20:01:37] <Izaya> Websockets are dumber because they're a separate protocol with HTTP to negotiate connections but long polling is just bad, it's technically HTTP but if you served such a page to a browser it'd freak out
L574[20:03:02] <Michiyo> Also, for logs/stats, everyone gets a dark mode theme cause I'm too lazy to implement switching
L575[20:03:11] <Michiyo> Enjoy.
L576[20:05:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya: did you expect ARM to start killing off 32-bit ARM before Intel started killing off 32-bit x86?
L577[20:05:49] <Izaya> Huh?
L578[20:06:05] <CompanionCube> "Starting with Arm’s 2022 IP, all future Cortex-A “big” cores will only support 64-bit"
L579[20:09:01] <Izaya> Neat
L580[20:09:20] <Izaya> Intel can't kill off legacy
L581[20:09:36] <Izaya> What if Microsoft needs to run DOS code for Windows 11?
L582[20:09:54] <bad at​ vijya> windows 12
L583[20:15:12] <Izaya> From fedi:
L584[20:15:12] <Izaya> > I’m curious what the new name will be. I want it to be International Cloud Business Machines (ICBM). -- manicpolymath @ HN
L585[20:15:12] <Izaya> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24722158​
L586[20:17:12] <bad at​ vijya> h m m
L587[20:17:23] <ThePi​Guy24> http://tinyurl.com/y2626wk4
L588[20:17:39] <bad at​ vijya> is this what V2 was for?
L589[20:18:02] <CompanionCube> Izaya: hah, they're spinning off the consultants, so i guess the company will be cloud, mainframes and POWER now?
L590[20:18:14] <Inari> I thought there won't be a win11?
L591[20:18:48] <Izaya> Fortunately, for comedy purposes, products don't need to be planned in advance
L592[20:19:08] <Izaya> TPG24: I love it
L593[20:19:34] <bad at​ vijya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WGS7FaWkYw
L594[20:19:35] <MichiBot> This twisted game needs to be reset | length: 15s | Likes: 376 Dislikes: 2 Views: 7,463 | by Pxtseryu | Published On 3/3/2019
L595[20:31:30] <Light​ Dimf> So, Sangar is a creator of OC, but the last time he was here 2 years ago...
L596[20:31:44] <Light​ Dimf> Interesting
L597[20:31:53] <Forec​aster> what
L598[20:31:56] <Forec​aster> he's here right now
L599[20:32:02] <ThePi​Guy24> http://tinyurl.com/yydxx9xh
L600[20:32:04] <Forec​aster> but he doesn't work on OC anymore
L601[20:32:10] <Forec​aster> Payonel is the current maintainer
L602[20:32:24] <Light​ Dimf> > he's here right now
L603[20:32:24] <Light​ Dimf> @Forecaster The last message 2 years ago
L604[20:32:36] <Light​ Dimf> > but he doesn't work on OC anymore
L605[20:32:36] <Light​ Dimf> Oof
L606[20:33:34] <Amanda> I mean. Projects change hands, people's lives change, their motivations change. IT's the nature of OpenSource, and programming in general
L607[20:34:56] <t20kdc> Izaya: I don't think 32-bit will die until things get into a state where writing something for 32-bit doesn't save memory.
L608[20:35:44] <t20kdc> (I am aware that the "x32" (64-bit code, 32-bit pointers) ABI exists)
L609[20:36:11] <Light​ Dimf> Ok, so, @payonel, will there be OC update? How big will it be? And when, approximately, will it be?
L610[20:37:10] <Izaya> yes, at least a byte, when it's ready
L611[20:42:47] <bad at​ vijya> i need to make cpio64 for openos
L612[20:53:42] <bad at​ vijya> aw yeah
L613[20:53:47] <bad at​ vijya> PERC H700 is here
L614[20:55:35] <bad at​ vijya> kay
L615[20:55:40] <bad at​ vijya> old battery wire is compatible
L616[21:01:19] <Michiyo> @"ad at​ vijya" I have the same card in both of my servers.
L617[21:01:25] <Michiyo> @"bad at​ vijya"
L618[21:01:28] <Michiyo> fucking tab script
L619[21:01:39] <Michiyo> I need a battery for my main server's card though :/
L620[21:04:35] <bad at​ vijya> i got a battery too!
L621[21:04:41] <bad at​ vijya> but yeah
L622[21:04:43] <ThePi​Guy24> fuck it im messing around without a DE
L623[21:04:51] <bad at​ vijya> H700 is a drop in upgrade from what i've seen
L624[21:04:52] <bad at​ vijya> love it
L625[21:05:13] <bad at​ vijya> Michiyo: Anything I should know? Rockin a slightly moody PE2950
L626[21:05:54] <Michiyo> Nah, I think my only issues are a dead batter, and a drive that keeps dropping because I'm using SATA extenders to connect to 3.5" drives
L627[21:06:32] <Mic​hiyo> http://tinyurl.com/y4m37n3a
L628[21:06:32] <bad at​ vijya> ah
L629[21:06:32] <Mic​hiyo> Lol
L630[21:06:37] <bad at​ vijya> nice
L631[21:06:48] <bad at​ vijya> i'll post pics soon
L632[21:06:55] <bad at​ vijya> once i get my server set up
L633[21:07:13] <Michiyo> I've popped a breaker twice, and both times I've had to rebuild the array because drive 3 (the one loose in that picture) decides MEH I'M OUT!
L634[21:07:58] <bad at​ vijya> yikes
L635[21:07:59] <Michiyo> That's my IKEA Lack Rack, best ~$15 I ever spent lol
L636[21:08:10] <bad at​ vijya> i got new CPUs for my PE2950
L637[21:08:17] <bad at​ vijya> because the ones it came with had bad thermal sensors
L638[21:08:24] <bad at​ vijya> made it always on 100% fan
L639[21:08:29] <Michiyo> oof
L640[21:08:34] <bad at​ vijya> they were also like 135W TDP
L641[21:08:49] <bad at​ vijya> so i grabbed some L5420s because that nice 50W(?) TDP
L642[21:09:01] <Michiyo> I have 2.5" drives picked out, sadly they're $150 each, and I need 4... and to figure out how the fuck I'm going to move the data to them
L643[21:10:05] <Michiyo> Top server there is runnign 4 Opteron 6376's 115W each
L644[21:10:22] <bad at​ vijya> wew
L645[21:10:28] <Michiyo> the one below it is running a pair of... something else
L646[21:10:30] <bad at​ vijya> now
L647[21:10:33] <Michiyo> It's powered off ATM
L648[21:10:34] <bad at​ vijya> i need to put the battery in
L649[21:10:54] <Michiyo> But yeah. 32 cores, 64 threads, 256GB of RAM.
L650[21:10:58] <Michiyo> and a dead RAID battery
L651[21:10:58] <Michiyo> lmao
L652[21:11:03] <bad at​ vijya> fuck the duck twice
L653[21:11:09] <bad at​ vijya> jesus
L654[21:11:20] <Michiyo> I paid $100 for the server, and $50 for the CPUs
L655[21:11:24] <Michiyo> server CAME with the RAM lol
L656[21:11:26] <bad at​ vijya> wh-what
L657[21:11:32] <bad at​ vijya> oh yeah
L658[21:11:35] <bad at​ vijya> i had to order new RAM
L659[21:11:36] <Michiyo> Yeah man, work upgraded servers
L660[21:11:36] <bad at​ vijya> since
L661[21:11:44] <bad at​ vijya> first of all, 16GB of RAM is
L662[21:11:45] <bad at​ vijya> not much
L663[21:11:51] <Michiyo> I WANTED this one's equal, but someone beat me to it
L664[21:11:59] <Michiyo> I would have had 2 of these!
L665[21:12:10] <bad at​ vijya> and i think it has a memory issue but it could have also been the PCI-X card or the old PERC
L666[21:12:26] <Michiyo> IIRC the 2nd one is 2x 8/16s but it might be 6/12s
L667[21:12:31] <Michiyo> and 64GB of RAM
L668[21:13:05] <Michiyo> They're 11 year old machines, but they do alright :P
L669[21:13:13] * Lizzy wishes it was cost effective to home host
L670[21:13:19] <Michiyo> I do wish the CPUs were newer though
L671[21:13:40] <Michiyo> Lizzy, I did the math, it costs me about $15 a month in electricity per server. No idea how that would work out for you though
L672[21:13:42] <bad at​ vijya> [laughs in Penryn]
L673[21:13:57] <Lizzy> Michiyo, the electricity is the relatively easy bit
L674[21:14:00] <Michiyo> the big issue is net
L675[21:14:01] <Forec​aster> I have no idea what mine cost in electricity
L676[21:14:17] <Forec​aster> but that's all they cost
L677[21:14:17] <Michiyo> I have the BW with no issue.. it's the single damn IPv4 and no IPv6
L678[21:14:24] <Forec​aster> well, I do need new fans for one of them
L679[21:14:28] <CompanionCube> imagine not having ipv6
L680[21:14:38] <bad at​ vijya> Michiyo: wait so, battery cable is the same as the PERC 6/i, rite?
L681[21:14:41] <Michiyo> my ISP is rolling it out
L682[21:14:46] <dequbed> Amanda: https://github.com/dequbed/vfdl there, for your (future) enjoyment.
L683[21:14:48] <Michiyo> I'm not sure.
L684[21:14:59] <bad at​ vijya> fear
L685[21:15:09] <Lizzy> it's the getting better/business grade internet, a backup solution, the noise unless i got some fancy custom watercooling or sound proofing setup, the up-front cost of the server itself.
L686[21:15:27] <bad at​ vijya> okay yeah it is
L687[21:15:33] <Forec​aster> I keep my servers on the other side of my apartment
L688[21:15:48] <bad at​ vijya> god
L689[21:16:00] <Michiyo> Mine sit at the foot of my bed lmao
L690[21:16:01] <bad at​ vijya> i hope the heatsink on the H700 is low enough
L691[21:16:13] <bad at​ vijya> mine is beside my desk
L692[21:16:14] <Forec​aster> also I had ipv6, until I got a new router from my ISP and now it seems I don't anymore?
L693[21:16:16] <bad at​ vijya> space heater
L694[21:16:18] <Forec​aster> not sure what's up with that
L695[21:16:19] <Lizzy> plus the fact that i don't make any money off of my server currently so i can't even say "after X time i'll have made back the cost of the server"
L696[21:16:30] <Michiyo> Yeaaaah
L697[21:16:31] <Michiyo> >_>
L698[21:16:33] <Forec​aster> I make 0 money off of mine
L699[21:17:03] <Nin​vel> hello
L700[21:17:08] <Forec​aster> %hello
L701[21:17:08] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L702[21:17:31] <Lizzy> though speaking of that, i need to ask one of the people i host for about some compensation since they're using about half my cpu count right now (and no, that's not you Michiyo, your container is rather light for my server at the moment)
L703[21:17:58] <bad at​ vijya> h nnngh
L704[21:17:58] <Nin​vel> I'm very lost, I'm trying to create a program that acts as a bank but I don't know how to ask a program to create files 😦
L705[21:18:02] <bad at​ vijya> it's a tight fit
L706[21:18:03] <bad at​ vijya> makes me nervous
L707[21:18:22] <Forec​aster> @Ninvel what do you mean "ask a program"?
L708[21:18:28] <Nin​vel> I was helping luke but he disappeared out of nowhere
L709[21:18:31] <Forec​aster> you may want to look at the filesystem api
L710[21:18:44] <Amanda> dequbed: nice
L711[21:18:50] <Forec​aster> no idea who luke is
L712[21:18:51] <Michiyo> Lizzy, haha.. I saw the ping started reading and got worried :P
L713[21:19:17] <bad at​ vijya> spark test time
L714[21:19:27] <Nin​vel> I mean I hate the google translator
L715[21:19:53] <Forec​aster> ~oc filesystem
L716[21:20:05] <Forec​aster> oh, well then
L717[21:20:54] <bad at​ vijya> wh-what
L718[21:20:58] <bad at​ vijya> no orange light--
L719[21:21:21] <bad at​ vijya> NO ORANGE LIGHT
L720[21:21:23] <bad at​ vijya> NO WARNINGS
L721[21:21:24] <bad at​ vijya> HAHA
L722[21:21:29] <Michiyo> \o/
L723[21:21:34] <Michiyo> wait did ocdoc die
L724[21:21:38] <Michiyo> damn it OCDOC
L725[21:21:40] <Forec​aster> apparently
L726[21:21:51] <Nin​vel> the thing is, I put the mod on a server of mys but I have no idea programming in this language, I know a little bit of C' but lua I don't know anything
L727[21:22:08] <Forec​aster> %lua
L728[21:22:09] ⇨ Joins: ocdoc (~ocdoc@eos.pc-logix.com)
L729[21:22:15] <Michiyo> ~oc filesystem
L730[21:22:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L731[21:22:19] <Forec​aster> %pil
L732[21:22:19] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
L733[21:22:26] <Nin​vel> the thing is, I put the mod on a server of mys but I have no idea programming in this language, I know a little bit of C# but lua I don't know anything
L734[21:22:39] <Forec​aster> see the above links
L735[21:22:43] <Nin​vel> I've already fixed the bug
L736[21:22:46] <Nin​vel> ok, thanks
L737[21:22:50] <bad at​ vijya> holy fuck i am excited
L738[21:23:24] <Michiyo> Where did you get the battery? I've got one on Amazon for like $19.99
L739[21:25:55] <Nin​vel> thank you for the links 😄
L740[21:26:27] <bad at​ vijya> amazon
L741[21:27:09] <Nin​vel> by the way, the forum is dead, right?
L742[21:27:13] <bad at​ vijya> getting the h700 working is proving to be a pia
L743[21:27:21] <Michiyo> @Nin​vel no?
L744[21:27:28] <Forec​aster> no, but it's far less active than here
L745[21:27:35] ⇦ Quits: ben_mkiv|afk (~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:1e2a:8600:97:6e3f:f7cd:5bd3) (Ping timeout: 378 seconds)
L746[21:28:21] <Nin​vel> is that I've been looking for programmers for my roleplay server for a while and nobody shows up 😄
L747[21:29:00] <Nin​vel> by the way, I'm using translator so it might be that English is malicious
L748[21:29:21] <Michiyo> I mean yeah, English IS pretty malicious, as a native speaker.
L749[21:29:22] <Michiyo> :p
L750[21:29:37] <Nin​vel> I'm starting to hate the google translator
L751[21:29:56] <Nin​vel> my English is bad, English is a language
L752[21:30:00] <Forec​aster> it's better than not being able to communicate?
L753[21:30:21] <Nin​vel> I'm not sure
L754[21:30:45] <Forec​aster> I'm pretty sure it is
L755[21:31:01] <bad at​ vijya> it's werkingh
L756[21:31:16] <Nin​vel> anyway, I'm going to see how it comes out, because it gives me that it's going to be a giant F the issue of the bank
L757[21:32:36] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L758[21:32:37] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L759[21:32:38] <bad at​ vijya> it just
L760[21:32:41] <bad at​ vijya> booted up normally
L761[21:32:55] <bad at​ vijya> i
L762[21:33:00] <bad at​ vijya> guess i took care of a problem then
L763[21:33:54] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L764[21:34:02] <bad at​ vijya> my system should now be really comfy
L765[21:34:55] <bad at​ vijya> tho i may need to up the time it takes to reboot on the raspi side
L766[21:35:11] <bad at​ vijya> because the H700 seems to take a bit longer to start
L767[21:35:53] <bad at​ vijya> okay the boot lockup isn't fixed
L768[21:35:58] <bad at​ vijya> time to see if the watchdog works, tho
L769[21:37:30] <bad at​ vijya> hm
L770[21:37:36] <bad at​ vijya> it didn't start it back up
L771[21:37:36] <bad at​ vijya> re
L772[21:37:50] <bad at​ vijya> i have to fix my script i guess
L773[21:49:12] <Ariri> %tonk
L774[21:49:13] <MichiBot> Darn! Ar​iri! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 26 minutes and 4 seconds (By 57 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L775[21:49:13] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 3 hours, 23 minutes and 51 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00288 (0.00096 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.23296 more points to pass simo​n816!
L776[21:49:38] <ThePi​Guy24> darn i was literally just calculating the time since last tonk :p
L777[21:49:46] <Forec​aster> dammit... I thought the cutoff was midnight here
L778[21:49:47] <Forec​aster> :|
L779[21:50:11] <Ariri> Teehee
L780[21:57:31] <bad at​ vijya> hm
L781[21:57:51] <bad at​ vijya> gonna make a mass storage thing lmao
L782[21:58:04] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ98HvK4pvo
L783[21:58:05] <MichiBot> Minecraft Cows & Minecraft Cows & Minecraft Cows (Minecraft Animation) | length: 2m 36s | Likes: 58,052 Dislikes: 2,400 Views: 4,092,411 | by Element Animation | Published On 10/10/2012
L784[21:58:11] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Enjoy.
L785[21:58:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Or not.
L786[22:11:13] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7e970.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L787[22:50:44] <Michiyo> shit..
L788[22:50:53] <Michiyo> I overwrote the stylesheets on the log site <_< <
L789[22:51:50] <bad at​ vijya> so, i'm working on a tape io thing for massive blocks of storage because lmao
L790[22:54:57] ⇦ Quits: immibis (~immibis@62.156.144.218) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L791[22:58:36] * Michiyo sighs
L792[22:58:41] <Michiyo> fucking morons
L793[23:03:23] <bad at​ vijya> it's so weird having my server starting to be
L794[23:03:24] <bad at​ vijya> okay
L795[23:13:19] <Bri​anH> HOW did I know that was going to be a cyriak remake
L796[23:27:04] *** maxpowa is now known as max
L797[23:58:30] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-59-222.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
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