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Ocawesome101 | Published On
22/9/2020
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<Atlasim>
wjat if you ping someone @Atlasim
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<Atlasim>
ok
L9[00:31:31] <Atlasim> /nick the second
atlasim
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<Atlasim>
CRAp
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@Atlasim
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<Atlasim>
ok
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@theatlas2
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L17[00:43:08] <Amanda> IRC doen't generally
use @ username for pinging, generally peple will ping on their
nick, or other interesting terms, or nothing at all.
L18[00:43:18] <Amanda> For example, I ping
on Amanda, AmandaC and ailurophiles
L19[00:44:36]
<Shadow_8472> How are you supposed to
program a microcontroller?
L20[00:46:34]
<Shadow_8472> I'm guessing it has
something to do with the EEPROM.
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L25[01:10:45] <Michiyo> %restart
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L29[01:12:12] <Michiyo> %remindme 10s
Hello!
L30[01:12:12] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "Hello!" at 09/23/2020 12:12:22 AM
L31[01:12:22] <MichiBot> Michiyo REMINDER:
Hello!
L32[01:12:24] <Michiyo> Amanda, ^ I fixed
it.
L33[01:20:30] <Amanda> Michiyo: \o/
L34[01:20:36] <Amanda> %give Michiyo
random
L35[01:20:36] *
MichiBot gives Michiyo chanellor gawr-on, vtuber shaak of the
Klingon Empire, from her inventory
L36[01:20:53] <Michiyo> Also likely fixed a
few other commands that use subcommands..
L37[01:21:49]
<Ariri>
Michiyo: you have been blessed with shaak. It says ‘a’ as thanks
for your efforts
L38[01:22:14] <Izaya> I hate these
sentences. Good job.
L39[01:22:36]
<Ariri>
Wha
L40[01:23:14] <Michiyo> lol
L42[01:23:33] <Izaya> Who's hype? /o/
L43[01:24:00]
<Ariri> I
haven’t seen anything about those characters in forever, whats
new
L44[01:24:10] <Amanda> S2
L45[01:24:17] <Amanda> Not to be confused
with Sophia, S3
L46[01:24:18] <Izaya> Season 2 in
January
L47[01:24:19]
<Ariri>
:o
L48[01:24:35]
<Ariri>
sweet
L49[01:26:31] <Izaya> Maybe I'll start on a
Safina relay station
L50[01:26:34]
<Ariri> the
one on the right looks v comf
L51[01:26:43]
<Ariri>
would pat
L52[01:26:52] <Izaya> And build a
Queenslander on the surface somewhere
L54[01:29:07]
<Ariri> I
really want to watch and find out why people joke that watson is a
toxic gamer but damn are streams long and life short
L55[01:29:28]
<Ariri>
%choose watch more clips or get back to work
L56[01:29:29] <MichiBot> Ariri: I saw that
"watch more clips" is the best choice in a vision
L57[01:29:45]
<Ariri>
thank you, o wise one
L59[01:34:01] <Amanda> rude. no comment at
all on my murderpresent. :(
L60[01:35:27]
<Ariri>
%bap [user not found]
L61[01:35:27] <MichiBot> Ariri baps [user
not found] with Windows but it’s actually decent!
L62[01:35:49] <Amanda> %choose compute go
brrr or veg out
L63[01:35:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: If I've
learned anything in life it's that you always pick "veg
out"
L64[01:36:15] *
Amanda snugs up around Elfi, yawns
L66[01:36:20]
<BrianH> I
broke it
L67[01:36:49] <Amanda> ZOOM AND ENHANSE ON
THE REFLECTION!
L68[01:37:07]
<BrianH>
Rofl
L70[01:38:18]
<Enthalpy>
I am watching him take these on his phone through his laptop
webcam...
L71[01:38:46]
<BrianH> I
know you are
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L73[01:39:43]
<Enthalpy>
He just tried to take an image of uname -a and his flash turned
on...
L76[01:41:35] <Amanda> %choose radiation
(en) or radiation (jp)
L77[01:41:35] <MichiBot> Amanda: I want a
divorce. I'm taking half the "radiation (en)".
L78[01:41:41] <Amanda> Rude
L79[01:42:21] <Amanda> [ Michiyo's server
explodes from trying to download half of english youtube)
L80[01:42:51] <Michiyo> Bad news, that's
actually Lizzy's server at this point. :P
L81[01:43:02]
<Ariri>
ekusploshun
L82[01:53:11] <Ariri> inb4 drive
activity
L83[01:53:28]
<Ocawesome101> idea: microkernel where
everything is a URL, including processes, and you can seamlessly
(albeit slowly) perform IPC operations on other nodes using the
internal communication protocol
L84[01:54:11]
<Ocawesome101> Izaya: thoughts?
L85[01:54:53] <Izaya> I'm not against
it
L86[01:55:07] <Izaya> just sounds like
normal RPC with more steps though
L87[01:58:03]
<Ocawesome101> excuse me,
everything-is-a-UR
I, not UR
L
L88[01:58:44]
<Ocawesome101> ...or maybe it is URL, i'm
confused now
L89[01:58:45]
<Ocawesome101> :p
L90[01:59:12] <Izaya> I should really write
a fs-component wrapper for OpenOS
L91[01:59:22] <Izaya> so you get
PsychOS-grade fs export on it
L92[01:59:40] <Izaya> and you can export
arbitrary directories rather than just a whole component
L93[02:00:16]
<Ocawesome101> hmmmm
L94[02:00:17] <Izaya> it'd be nice to have
a whole like, /etc/exports and a /etc/fstab but for remote
folders
L95[02:00:17]
<Ocawesome101> seems interesting
L96[02:00:31] <Izaya> a daemon that
auto-mounts them in the background
L97[02:00:37] <Izaya> though doing that in
OpenOS seems like a bit of a pain
L98[02:02:00]
<Ocawesome101> you mean since
"services" are event listeners not processes?
L99[02:02:10] <Izaya> yeah
L100[02:02:11]
<Ocawesome101> or just because of how it's
structured?
L101[02:02:20] <Izaya> though the thread
API may be able to deal with it for me
L102[02:02:32] <Izaya> on PsychOS I'd
spawn a process for each mount and let them run their course
L103[02:02:40] <Izaya> if I can use the
thread API to do the same, that'll be nice.
L104[02:02:44]
<Ocawesome101> OpenOS... could do that, i
think
L105[02:02:53]
<Ocawesome101> with `process`
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L110[02:12:25] <Izaya> It's definitely
doable somehow
L111[02:12:30] <Izaya> It's just less
obvious than on PsychOS
L112[02:28:25] *
Amanda yawns a big toothy yawn, does some grooming then sleeps --
night needs
L113[02:28:30] <Amanda> Nerds*
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L115[04:07:52]
<BrianH>
Izaya: I'm thinking about changing my comments on my functions to
be more similar to OC's docs. Does this seem understandable to
you?
L117[04:09:32]
<BrianH>
should be easier to parse with a docbuilder too
L118[04:11:15]
<BrianH>
also Ive been trying to find a way to make it work where its not
just any table sched would be, it should be a scheduler ...
L119[04:11:18]
<BrianH> I
could do this:
L120[04:11:28]
<BrianH>
`--[[ :: sub(sched: (scheduler): table, pid: number, event_name:
string): (:ok | :error): string [, errno: number]`
L121[04:12:13]
<BrianH>
that way its clear that you want a scheduler structure
L122[04:12:23]
<BrianH>
but its datatype is really a table
L123[04:14:01]
<Ocawesome101> seems mostly
understandable
L124[04:14:56]
<BrianH>
The most unusual part of Trotwood is that I use colon previxed
strings to represent special values.
L125[04:15:12]
<BrianH>
such as :ok, :error, :somenamedprocess, etc
L126[04:15:35]
<BrianH>
its not parsed any differently, its a sigil for you as a programmer
to identify it as a "keyword" trotwood programs use
L127[04:16:35]
<BrianH>
local ok, result = trotwood.do_something()
L128[04:16:36]
<BrianH> if
ok ~= ':error' then print("horray!")
L129[04:17:19]
<BrianH>
or, if ok == ':error' then do some error handling
L130[04:17:19]
<BrianH>
proceed normal operation here
L131[04:17:47]
<BrianH>
another example, sending a function callback to another
process
L132[04:18:47]
<BrianH>
`send(':mydatabase', ':call', ':drop_table', 'computers')`
L133[04:19:06]
<BrianH>
which is the manual way of just using the database api you'd have
that does it for you
L134[04:19:44]
<Ocawesome101> huh interesting
L135[04:20:22]
<Ocawesome101> now ima close discord
before it kills my laptop :P
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L137[04:25:40] <Izaya> S3: seems
reasonable to me
L138[04:25:58] <Ocawesome101> o/
L139[04:26:03] <S3> I just realized Lua
doesn't have octal..
L140[04:26:07] <S3> or at least I don't
know how
L141[04:26:12] <Ocawesome101> it
doesn
L142[04:26:14] <Ocawesome101> well
L143[04:26:25] <Ocawesome101>
`tonumber("777", 8)` is the closest you can get
L144[04:26:35] <S3> like, number = 0774
doesn't represent in decimal of the octal
L145[04:26:39] <S3> yeah meh
L146[04:26:55] <S3> maybe I'll use hex
then
L147[04:27:39] <Ocawesome101> hex is
nice
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L149[04:28:35] <S3> I was just
thinking
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L151[04:28:44] <Ocawesome101> ...oops,
didn't mean to do that lol
L152[04:28:58] <S3> I was just thinking I
could use a prefix for my errors instead of reusing them
L153[04:29:28] <S3> so if you are calling
a trotwood program call then you could know what the error is from
just by the error code
L154[04:29:40] <S3> i.e. encode the number
for different subsystems and features
L155[04:29:47] <Ocawesome101> hmmmm that'd
be interesting
L156[04:29:54] <S3> 16 bit, 256 errors per
subsystem
L157[04:30:04] <S3> 0x00XX is core, 0x01XX
is scheduler.. etc
L158[04:30:06] <Izaya> [thruster damage
intensifies]
L159[04:30:15] <Izaya> maybe I should have
the shroud come apart when the thruster is in use
L160[04:30:49] <S3> well that was
easy
L161[04:31:02] <S3> `local
E_SCHED_NOSUBSCRIPTION = 0x0100`
L162[04:31:03] <S3> done.
L163[04:31:31] <S3> oops wait I forgot I
don't need to put the SCHED in there
L164[04:33:10] <S3> if I change it to
_S.E_NOSUBSCRIPTION = 0x0100 then I can be like
L165[04:33:54] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L166[04:33:54] <MichiBot> Boo-yah!
CompanionCube! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 49
minutes and 8 seconds (By 2 hours, 10 minutes and 2 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L167[04:33:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
1.45543944, Position #2 Need 0.0539964 more points to pass
Forecaster!
L169[04:34:01] <S3> not that I have
to
L170[04:34:32] <S3> nice typo
L171[04:37:39]
<BrianH>
I'll just do it this way:
L173[04:53:38]
<BrianH>
Then I can do typespecs at the top of my file like this, for
documentation builders:
L175[04:53:53]
<BrianH> oh
wait I gotta fix that
L177[04:54:17]
<BrianH>
there
L178[04:54:38]
<BrianH>
the typespec for event is correct, I fixed the scheduler typespec,
if I follow something like that its easy to know what a scheduler
table is supposed to look like
L179[04:54:49]
<BrianH>
wait that's wrong XD the state does NOT look like that
L180[05:06:15]
<BrianH>
there maybe something like this
L182[05:06:43]
<BrianH> it
should be fairly clear what the scheduler instance should look
like
L183[05:06:48]
<BrianH>
just by looking at that
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L185[05:23:57] <SnailDOS> Well IRC in open
computers works I guess.
L186[05:24:06] <Ocawesome101> yup
L187[05:24:11] <SnailDOS> This is cooler
then anything. I swear I love this :
L188[05:24:20] <SnailDOS> Oh- Face cut
off. Oh well.
L189[05:25:12] <SnailDOS> Just out of
curiosity, when networking on a server, the network packets are
getting sent and recieved from the server, not the client,
correct?
L190[05:26:57] <Izaya> Networking?
L191[05:28:37] <Izaya> Bah, UBports/Ubuntu
Touch doesn't have an XMPP client.
L192[05:28:43] <Izaya> I'm not going to
compile Dino for it >.>
L193[05:29:26] <SnailDOS> I'm sorry, that
was not detailed what so ever, I mean like, For example I am using
IRC on open computers right now, I am a client connected to a
server, how am I connected to IRC, is it through client or the
server?
L194[05:29:47] <Izaya> Oh, yeah, TCP
connections come from the server host machine
L195[05:30:04] <SnailDOS> Oh! New way to
unblock blocked websites then, just play minecraft. lmao
L196[05:30:19] <Izaya> Blocked
websites?
L197[05:30:29] <Izaya> Are you on a school
network or something?
L198[05:30:48] <SnailDOS> Yep! LMAO
L199[05:30:52] <SnailDOS> This is
awsome!
L200[05:31:29] <Izaya> Were you in
WA?
L201[05:32:03] <SnailDOS> Oh god don't
track my ip >:(
L202[05:32:13] <Izaya> Was guessing based
on timezone.
L203[05:32:37] <SnailDOS> Oh. Well that
was a good guess.
L204[05:32:49] <Izaya> Not a lot of
english-speaking places in GMT+8
L205[05:33:06] <SnailDOS> I think Hong
Kong is GMT+8 too.
L206[05:33:27] <Izaya> I imagine everyone
in HK is getting run over tanks about now.
L207[05:33:45] <SnailDOS> Oh god.
L208[05:33:56]
<Shadow_8472> I haven't heard much about
them lately.
L209[05:34:01] <SnailDOS> Absolutly
disgusting what's going on there.
L210[05:34:07] <SnailDOS> Hello Discord
user.
L211[05:34:23]
<Shadow_8472> Good Morning! (It's late at
night.)
L212[05:35:12] <SnailDOS> Just wanted to
make it clear, I am actually studying- We have lunch now xD
L213[05:35:23] <SnailDOS> I don't do this
in class obviously.
L214[05:35:47] <Izaya> I used to spend my
class time on IRC
L215[05:36:07] <Izaya> Don't do that, it's
bad for your education.
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L217[05:36:59]
<Shadow_8472> I just came over to figure
out how to program a microcontroller. I'm trying to emulate a
hopper clock, and both sides are used in the original design.
L218[05:37:09] <Ariri> Always do it, screw
education /s
L219[05:37:10]
<Shadow_8472> I just came over to figure
out how to program a microcontroller. I'm trying to emulate a
hopper clock, and both sides are used in the original design of a
witch farm I'm building. [Edited]
L220[05:37:30]
<Shadow_8472> Discord edits don't show up
on IRC, do they?
L221[05:37:35]
<Shadow_8472> Discord edits don't show up
on IRC, do they?EDITED IN. [Edited]
L222[05:38:00] <Izaya> They do, they're
just obnoxious, and edits are a lie anyway.
L223[05:38:16] <SnailDOS> Ooh!
MICROControllers, can't you only program them through
eeproms?
L224[05:38:23]
<Shadow_8472> Yep.
L225[05:39:01]
<Shadow_8472> I'm hoping to give one a
solar upgrade and leave it be.
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L227[05:39:16] <Izaya> todo: PsychOS /boot
over RPC so I can run PsychOS on µCs
L228[05:40:44]
<BrianH>
Adding more features to the documentation idea
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L231[05:42:08] <SnailDOS> I'm doing this
more often.
L232[05:42:12] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: just
boot it from the tmpfs
L233[05:42:26] <Izaya> that works and I've
done it
L234[05:42:28]
<BrianH>
@SnailDOS Hey
L235[05:42:29] <Izaya> but it doesn't make
me happy
L236[05:42:41] <Izaya> oh cool, I can't
log into the SE server now
L237[05:42:48] <Izaya> crash on login,
"yay"
L238[05:43:34] <SnailDOS> Hello BrianH. I
am using IRC through open computers today.
L239[05:46:58] <SnailDOS> So, what is
everyone doing now?
L240[05:47:10]
<Shadow_8472> Microcontrollers.
L241[05:47:19] <Izaya> trying the lowest
setting to see if it's a VRAM issue with SE
L242[05:47:22] <Izaya> > have 8GB of
VRAM
L243[05:47:30] <Izaya> > shitty windows
software refuses to use more than 4
L244[05:47:32] <Izaya> why am I not
surprised?
L245[05:47:42] <Izaya> Direct3D pls
go
L246[05:48:44]
<Shadow_8472> I want to build a
microcontroller for a witch farm that originally uses a hopper
clock because I find hopper clocks are prone to item duplication
and subsiquent timings being thrown off.
L247[05:48:48] <SnailDOS> Time to
go.
L248[05:48:52] <SnailDOS> Bye
L249[05:48:56] <Izaya> o/
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L251[05:51:22] <Izaya> yeah nah even on
the lowest setting, instant crash
L252[05:51:23] <Izaya> cool
L253[05:53:28]
<BrianH>
@Shadow_8472 Seems pretty simple
L254[05:54:31]
<Shadow_8472> What I need is just a binary
timer. My goal is to have something that can simulate redstone
signals based on arbitrary capaicty of connected inventories.
L255[05:59:24]
<BrianH>
ok
L256[05:59:30]
<BrianH>
What's the trouble?
L257[06:00:22]
<Shadow_8472> Hello, World type
trouble.
L258[06:08:42] <Izaya> Gonna need to be
more specific than that :p
L259[06:09:09]
<Shadow_8472> I've never flashed an EEPROM
before.
L260[06:10:07]
<Shadow_8472> I should be able to struggle
through actually coding the thing, but I don't know where the go-to
documentation is.
L261[06:10:39] <Izaya> ~w custom os
L263[06:10:50] <Izaya> That's what you
have available in an EEPROM environment
L264[06:11:37]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L265[06:11:37] <MichiBot> Huzzah!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By
1 hour, 37 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L266[06:11:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 1 hour, 37 minutes and 42 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00163 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L267[06:13:15]
<Shadow_8472> ?
L268[06:14:21]
<Shadow_8472> Well, this side project is
to help prepare me for when I want to try and squeeze a program
resembling Dig onto an EEPROM for robots.
L269[06:14:43] <Izaya> As for flashing,
OpenOS has a flash program that may interest you
L270[06:14:47] <Izaya> beyond that, ~w
eeprom
L271[06:14:49] <Izaya> uh
L272[06:14:51] <Izaya> ~w eeprom
L274[06:17:01]
<Shadow_8472> Thanks.
L275[06:17:44] <Michiyo> @Forecaster let
me know if that fix breaks something
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L277[06:57:08]
<Shadow_8472> I've had robots with OpenOS
stall their excavation process if the chunks are unloaded
--sometimes. How can I ensure a microcontroller keeps going no
matter what?
L278[06:57:59] <Izaya> Chunkloader, save
status regularly, something sending a wakeup ping that is itself
woken up by a redstone timer
L279[06:59:08]
<Shadow_8472> I guess I was thinking a
little more narrowly when I said, "no matter what."
L280[07:00:12] <Izaya> haha
L281[07:00:58]
<Shadow_8472> I'm okay with the area
unloading, I just want a timer that acts like a 2-ended hopper
clock.
L282[07:01:06]
<Shadow_8472> I'm okay with the area
unloading, I just want a timer that acts like a 2-ended hopper
clock without the item dupe. [Edited]
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L286[08:16:25]
<Shadow_8472> I'm looking to
surprise/prank my mother in-game. She needs a clock for a clock
tower, and I'd like to provide her with one.
L287[08:18:11]
<Shadow_8472> Is there a good,
pre-existing clock program that shows in-game time of day?
L288[08:18:22]
<SnailDOS>
Holoclock exists.
L289[08:18:58]
<SnailDOS>
There is a clock program for mineos but I would highly recommend
you to not use that. You will need alot of resources for it.
L291[08:19:26]
<Shadow_8472> I'm digging a full
parimeter. I have the resources.
L292[08:19:36]
<Shadow_8472> But it wouldn't fit with her
build.
L293[08:19:46]
<Shadow_8472> I'm after an analogue
clock.
L294[08:19:49]
<Shadow_8472> I'm after an analogue clock
face. [Edited]
L295[08:19:52]
<SnailDOS>
Ah..
L296[08:19:56]
<SnailDOS>
Those.
L297[08:20:12]
<SnailDOS>
Yikes. I never saw one. Try checking forums
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L299[08:30:46] <Saghetti> Woah
L300[08:31:12] <Saghetti> I haven't used
IRC in so long that my nickname unregistered
L301[08:31:31]
<SnailDOS>
Oof. Welcome back it. :)
L302[08:31:42]
<SnailDOS>
I guess. * stupid auto correct.
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L304[08:33:33] <Saghetti> welp I'm
registered again
L305[08:33:36] <Saghetti> What's.
Send
L306[08:33:48] <Saghetti> What's been
happening since I was gone*
L307[08:33:58] <Saghetti> I'm on a Google
Nexus 7
L308[08:34:15] <Saghetti> (hence the auto
capitalization)
L309[08:35:56] <Izaya> just scored two
optiplex 9020s B)
L310[08:36:07] <Izaya> Ariri, Elfi,
Amanda, scored an SSD for the SE server
L311[08:36:10] <Saghetti> Oh hey
izaya
L312[08:36:12] <Izaya> and an i7
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L314[08:36:20] <Saghetti> Long time no
see
L315[08:36:26] <Izaya> quite the upgrade
from the dinky HDD and i3
L316[08:36:29] <Izaya> ey Saghetti how's
life
L317[08:36:41] <Saghetti> It's been
a
L318[08:36:46] <Saghetti> Alright
L319[08:37:07] <Saghetti> School has
started again so that's kind of stressful
L320[08:37:24] <Saghetti> I'm probably
going to resign from BTE, too
L321[08:37:59] <Saghetti> And I've also
gotten addicted to tf2 and programming in C
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L323[08:40:02] <Saghetti> Thinking of
going back to writing OC operating systems just for fun
L324[08:41:45] <Saghetti> anyways the
concept of a slot-based operating system never left my mind after
all these months
L325[08:43:13] <Inari> Nep
L326[08:43:48] <Inari> %tell Kristopher38
haha, yeah, it's quite amazing
L327[08:43:48] <MichiBot> Inari:
Kristopher38 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L328[08:43:53] <Inari> Amanda: rude!
L329[08:44:00] <Saghetti> But this time
I'm making it not suck (hopefully)
L330[08:46:09] <Ariri> Izaya, swish
L331[08:46:28] <Saghetti> the original
slot idea was great because it integrated init, services,
scheduling, and drivers into the same simple architecture
L332[08:46:35] <Izaya> won't get a chance
to switch over for a while
L333[08:46:43] <Izaya> but soon™
L334[08:47:12] <Ariri> Also I printed
another fighter with the new printing bay by the lower docking
port, if you get a chance today could you get my plane within
range
L335[08:47:31] <Ariri> the plane that
unloaded, that is
L336[08:47:51] <Izaya> if I can get the
game to not crash I'll have a go
L337[08:48:13] <Ariri> Arigato
L338[08:51:08] <Saghetti> but for this new
version (which I'm code naming MOSS for Multitasking Operating
System skeleton) will be a lot more structured and have things like
proper event queueing, real init scripts, on-the-fly process
management, and the ability to boot from a TAR file in tmpfs (much
like initramfs for Linux)
L339[08:51:33] <Saghetti> But this new
version*
L340[08:52:21] <Saghetti> how big is tmpfs
again?
L341[08:52:47] <Izaya> 64k
L342[08:53:08] <Saghetti> Thanks
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L344[08:53:51]
<Shadow_8472> What's the deal with
Plan9k?
L345[08:54:08] <Izaya> it's neat and it
can nominally multitask but it hasn't been maintained for
years
L346[08:54:55]
<Shadow_8472> Any other (manintained)
operating systems besides OpenOS and MineOS?
L347[08:55:56]
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L348[08:56:07] <Izaya> Several, you got
KittenOS NEO (cc @20kdc ), there's Monolith (cc @Ocawesome101 ),
Zorya Neo is most of an OS (cc bad_at_vijya) and there's PsychOS,
which you shouldn't use
L349[08:56:40] <Saghetti> the webchat
client had a stroke, but I'm back
L351[08:58:02] <Saghetti> oh and I forgot
to mention that none of the programs in MOSS aren't going to be
sandboxed and will share an environment
L352[08:58:52] <Izaya> My opinions on
slot-based OSes haven't changed in any significant way :)
L353[08:59:34]
<Shadow_8472> I'll take a look at some of
them. I'm also considering what the "ultamate Opencomputers
PC" would be. So far, I'm thinking about stuffing a rack with
maxed out server and three disk drives, then use a RAID for the
main install.
L354[08:59:39] <Saghetti> It's not slot
bae
L355[08:59:41] <Saghetti> S
L356[08:59:51] <Saghetti> Aagh I cant
type
L357[09:00:21] <Saghetti> It's not slot
based anymore though
L358[09:02:05] <Izaya> can't even get to
the main menu now
L359[09:02:06] <Izaya> neat
L360[09:02:52] <Izaya> guess I'll
reinstall
L361[09:03:37] <Saghetti> switching over
to the IRC client you sent me
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L364[09:06:00] <Saghetti> this is so much
better
L365[09:06:05] <Saghetti> Thanks
izaya
L366[09:06:23] <Izaya> I use Conversations
for IRC on my phone nowadays but I remember Revolution being
good
L367[09:06:36] <Saghetti> The keyboard is
still an issue though, but that's just an Android 5 thing
L368[09:06:55] <Saghetti> And yes, I'm
surprised that it even installed on this thing
L369[09:07:09] <Izaya> > This version
requires Android 4.2 or newer.
L370[09:07:17] <Izaya> My pinephone
arrived
L371[09:07:31] <Izaya> turns out mobile
interfaces for linux suck right now
L372[09:07:54] <Izaya> so I guess I'm
writing my own
L373[09:08:38] <Saghetti> Direct Linux on
a phone hasnt really happened before so I'd expect that
L374[09:08:47] <Izaya> ubuntu touch
exists
L375[09:08:49] <Izaya> but it has design
issues
L376[09:08:52] <Izaya> namely, no global
back button
L377[09:08:56] <Izaya> that's the biggest
issue with all of them
L378[09:08:59] <Izaya> no global back
button
L379[09:09:40] <Saghetti> Anyways back to
MOSS
L380[09:09:41] <Izaya> instead some
software - some - has the back button on the top left
L381[09:09:49] <Izaya> AKA the opposite
corner to where one's thumb rests
L382[09:10:11] <Saghetti> The boot process
has been changed so that it doesn't use slots anymore
L383[09:10:15] <Izaya> I can only conclude
that whoever designed these interfaces had never used a phone
L384[09:11:01] <Saghetti> First thing it
does is run all of the init scripts in order defined in
/moss/initcfg.lua
L385[09:12:38]
<Shadow_8472> What's the difference
between the two tiers of wireless cards?
L386[09:12:39] <Saghetti> And then it
starts programs and services as defined in /moss/progcfg.lua
L387[09:12:53] <Saghetti> One can transmit
farther iirc
L388[09:13:12] <Izaya> T1 can transmit 16
blocks and can only listen on one port
L389[09:13:17] <Izaya> T2 can do 400
blocks and 16 ports
L390[09:13:27]
<Shadow_8472> Let me guess, Tier 2 is also
the only one that can go between dimensions?
L391[09:13:52] <Saghetti> link cards fill
that gap
L392[09:13:52] <Izaya> No, neither can go
between dimensions.
L393[09:14:00] <Izaya> You'll need a
tunnel card - linked card - for that
L394[09:14:28] <Ariri> New fighter docked
at pad E, with a partial retrofit
L395[09:14:55] <Ariri> Going to test out
the new small ship weapons tomm, but secondary shielding'll do for
now; night night
L396[09:16:11] <Saghetti> So yeah, no more
slots
L397[09:17:54] <Saghetti> Does it sound
less shitty now? Or do you still want a single /moss/init
process
L398[09:18:41] <Izaya> I mean as long as
it doesn't have arbitrary restrictions I don't think you're hurting
it or yourself
L399[09:19:09] <Saghetti> You can define
as many init scripts or services as you want
L400[09:19:24] <Saghetti> The only thing
it's going to hurt is boot times and performance
L401[09:19:25]
<Shadow_8472> I suppose a RAID array is
the sort of thing you don't move under any conditions?
L402[09:19:48] <Izaya> There are probably
ways to do it
L403[09:19:52] <Izaya> but none that come
with OC itself
L404[09:20:09] <Saghetti> (that is, if
you're scheduling hundreds of services to be run)
L405[09:20:31]
<Kristopher38> Told you Izaya, it's GNU
phone
L406[09:20:53] <Izaya> still better than
android in every way except interface B)
L407[09:21:24] <Saghetti> The initramfs
systems because
L408[09:21:30] <Izaya> also, it's not GNU
phone
L409[09:21:35] <Izaya> I'm running pmOS on
it, no GNU here
L410[09:22:05] <Saghetti> The initramfs
system is because moss is designed to run on light terminals
L411[09:22:18] <Saghetti> Oh my god typing
on this thing is infuriating
L412[09:22:44] <Izaya> still waiting for
someone to implement a uC with a display and a keyboard
L413[09:23:24] <Saghetti> So being able to
keep the system contained to a few files is nice because it makes
it faster to deploy
L414[09:24:12] <Saghetti> bulk copying it
to 20 hard drives or similar using a deployment tool
L416[09:26:15] <Saghetti> And im still
thinking about my base automation/management system
L417[09:26:53] <Saghetti> Hence why being
able to run on the cheapest T1 hardware is something I'm aiming
for
L418[09:28:19] <Saghetti> So things like
terminals inside of your base that interface with the main
system
L419[09:30:21] <Saghetti> I think I've
mentioned this before. If
L420[09:30:39]
<Kristopher38> Running GNU or not, it does
have s GNU feel to it
L421[09:31:16]
<Kristopher38> @Shadow_8472 if you're
talking about OC, you can pick them up and they retain the
drives
L422[09:31:20] <Saghetti> They should add
an AIO computer that has a t1 screen, keyboard, and hard drive in
one block*
L423[09:31:45]
<Shadow_8472> Nice.
L424[09:31:45] <Saghetti>
Computercraft-esque
L425[09:32:20]
<Shadow_8472> I'm just now used to robots
chucking their removable upgrades everewhere.
L426[09:32:32]
<Shadow_8472> When I pick them up, that
is.
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L428[09:34:00] <Saghetti> Running MOSS on
a microcontroller would be fun, but not practical
L429[09:35:11]
<SnailDOS>
Thonk?
L430[09:35:24] <Saghetti> Microcontrollers
are mainly going to be used as wireless redstone I/O devices for
controlling things around the base
L431[09:35:36]
<SnailDOS>
Any some examples
L432[09:35:43]
<SnailDOS>
cool code to run on em?
L433[09:35:51]
<SnailDOS>
Cuz that sounds really cool
L434[09:36:20] <Saghetti> Are you taking
about uControllers?
L435[09:36:30]
<Shadow_8472> How do you make sure a
microcontroller stays functioning when the area is unloaded and
reloaded?
L436[09:36:36]
<SnailDOS>
Nope. I am talking about OC microcontrollers
L437[09:36:51] <Saghetti> That's what I
was asking
L438[09:37:07] <Saghetti> Can't you use a
chunk loader upgrade?
L439[09:37:09]
<Kristopher38> @Shadow_8472 put a
chunkloader upgrade in it
L440[09:37:28]
<Shadow_8472> I need that slot for a solar
upgrade.
L441[09:37:44]
<Kristopher38> Solar is tier2 though
L442[09:37:49] <Saghetti> I guess you're
out of luck then
L443[09:38:02]
<Shadow_8472> That slot is tier2.
L444[09:38:57] <Saghetti> anyways running
MOSS on a microcontroller would require a netboot system and a
wireless fileserver
L445[09:39:06]
<SnailDOS>
MOSS?
L446[09:39:07]
<SnailDOS>
What's that?
L447[09:39:21] <Saghetti> The OS I'm
designing
L448[09:39:28]
<Shadow_8472> I'll probably just build my
comparitor clock instead of the designed hopper clock.
L449[09:39:36]
<SnailDOS>
OHH? What's its for?
L450[09:40:10] <Saghetti> it's designed
for low end tier 1 decides as part of a bigger system
L451[09:40:25]
<SnailDOS>
OOH!!
L452[09:40:32]
<SnailDOS>
Any microcontroller software though?
L453[09:40:35] <Saghetti> The plan is to
make a wireless base automation/management system
L454[09:41:19] <Saghetti> There's a main
computer with a wireless card somewhere doing all of the things
like user authentication and scheduled tasks
L455[09:41:33]
<SnailDOS>
OHH!
L456[09:41:35]
<SnailDOS>
THAT SOUNDS AWSOME!!!
L457[09:41:58] <Saghetti> It then sends
messages using a wireless card to microcontrollers on the
network
L458[09:42:36] <Saghetti> So you could put
a redstone card inside one and hook it up to a mob farm
L459[09:43:05] <Saghetti> And then you
would be able to control the farm wirelessly
L460[09:43:11] <Saghetti> The second part
is the terminals
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L463[09:43:41] <Saghetti> Simple tier 1
computers connected to the network
L464[09:44:37] <Saghetti> You can log into
them and issue a command like "toggle mobfarm/0" and it
would toggle the redstone signal
L465[09:45:16] <Saghetti> By talking to
the main server, which would then send commands to the
microcontroller to toggle redstone
L466[09:45:37] <Saghetti> MOSS runs on the
terminals and possibly the main server
L467[09:46:19]
<SnailDOS>
When would this be started?
L468[09:46:31]
<SnailDOS>
My base is attempting to be recovered from a reactor meltdown
L469[09:46:34]
<SnailDOS>
so ye thats just great
L470[09:48:06] <Saghetti> This idea has
been rattling around in my head for a few months, and I'll probably
start working on it after resigning from BTE (because then I'll
probably have enough time to work on it)
L471[09:48:25]
<SnailDOS>
BTE?
L472[09:48:26]
<SnailDOS>
??
L473[09:48:57] <Saghetti> Build The
Earth
L474[09:49:04]
<SnailDOS>
ah
L475[09:49:26] <Saghetti> It's the massive
Minecraft project where they're building the entire earth in
Minecraft 1:1 scale
L476[09:49:58] <Saghetti> I'm the lead
developer/manager for the mini games server
L477[09:50:09]
<SnailDOS>
holy crap
L478[09:50:19]
<SnailDOS>
Wait-
L479[09:50:24]
<SnailDOS>
Is this polish? Isn't it?
L480[09:50:35] <Saghetti> ?
L481[09:50:53]
<SnailDOS>
I heard the polish community was rebuilding something in mc
L482[09:50:56]
<SnailDOS>
I don't even know.
L483[09:51:29] <Saghetti> This was started
by PippenFTS, who lives in Washington
L484[09:51:59] <Saghetti> (United
States)
L485[09:53:03] <Saghetti> I used to be a
lot more active here with over 9000 messages or so with IRC and
discord combined
L486[09:53:29] <Saghetti> But then BTE and
other projects took away most of my time
L487[09:54:03] <Michiyo> 8,719 40 Saghetti
:P
L488[09:54:18] <Saghetti> Including
IRC?
L489[09:54:36] <Michiyo> If the names are
the same IRC and Discord they're grouped automatically
L490[09:55:17] <Saghetti> In the IRC
logs?
L491[09:55:18] <Michiyo> 99,618 3 ♀Michiyo
I'm quickly gaining on Vexatos
L492[09:55:47] <Michiyo> We have stats
that pull from logs from basically the start of the channel
yes
L493[09:56:13] <Saghetti> I could've sworn
I had more messages, but alright
L494[09:56:22] <Vexatos> I joined the
channel late :(
L495[09:56:44] <Saghetti> I joined back in
like April or something
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L497[09:57:40] <Michiyo> Vexatos, your
first log entry is '2014-01-25.log'
L498[09:57:51] <Vexatos> sounds about
right
L499[09:58:03] <Michiyo> Mine is
'2014-01-31.log'
L500[09:58:18] <Vexatos> wtf you were here
for longer than me I swear
L501[10:00:42] <Saghetti> for
microcontrollers I'm thinking of just sending raw lua commands over
the network because it's really simple to implement and also gives
room for over-the-air updates
L502[10:01:27] <Saghetti> Such as flashing
the EEPROM and rebooting into am updated version
L503[10:01:38]
<SnailDOS>
\:O
L504[10:01:50]
<SnailDOS>
omg I want this rn
L505[10:01:55]
<SnailDOS>
so badly
L506[10:02:47] <Saghetti> Patience
L507[10:03:03]
<SnailDOS>
lmAO its so cool
L508[10:03:31] <Saghetti> And maybe you
could steal my plans and beat me to it if you're good at Lua
L509[10:04:08] <Izaya> %stats
L510[10:04:16] <Michiyo> %ocstats
L511[10:04:21] *
Michiyo pokes MichiBot
L512[10:04:26] <Saghetti> But it's 2 am so
I should probably be sleeping rn
L513[10:04:30] <Michiyo> ffs, did that
change kill dyncmds?
L514[10:04:31] <Saghetti> Gn
L515[10:04:35] <Michiyo> %test
L516[10:04:35] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Success
L517[10:04:39] <Michiyo> Night
Saghetti
L518[10:04:56] <Michiyo> %shrug
L519[10:04:57] <MichiBot> Michiyo: No you
shrug!
L520[10:05:10] <Michiyo> No.. the stats
command is.. missing
L521[10:05:11] <Michiyo> neato
L522[10:05:25] <Michiyo> %dyncmd
L523[10:05:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo: dyncmd
is enabled in this channel
L524[10:05:30] <Michiyo> %dyncmd add
L525[10:05:30] <MichiBot> Michiyo: dyncmd
is enabled in this channel
L526[10:05:33] <Michiyo> ffs.
L528[10:06:07] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command
Added! Don't forget to set help text with addcommandhelp!
L529[10:06:10] <Michiyo> %ocstats
L531[10:06:28] <Michiyo> %addcommandhelp
ocstats OCStats!
L532[10:06:29] <MichiBot> Michiyo: fail
2
L533[10:06:34] <Michiyo> %addcommandhelp
ocstats OCStats!
L534[10:06:34] <MichiBot> Michiyo: fail
2
L535[10:06:36] <Michiyo> ...
L536[10:07:38] <Michiyo> if
(IRCBot.commands.containsKey(theCommand)) {
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L539[10:07:58] <Michiyo> %addcommandhelp
ocstats OCStats!
L540[10:07:58] <MichiBot> Michiyo: fail
2
L541[10:08:15] <Michiyo> so fail 2 is if
the command is missing from the commands list.
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L543[10:08:31] <Michiyo> (If only I had
said that, instead of Fail 2)
L544[10:09:19] <Michiyo> I guess dyncmds
no longer get added into the list on add, but do on reload
L545[10:15:43] <Michiyo> Oh hey, stats
haven't updated in... a bit
L546[10:17:15] <Michiyo> Oh..
L547[10:17:30] <Michiyo> GOD DAMN
IT.
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L549[10:18:35] <Michiyo> Neo fucking died
on the 9th
L550[10:18:46] <Michiyo>
java.sql.BatchUpdateException: Data truncation: Incorrect string
value: '\xF0\x9F\x90\xB1\x0F ...' for column
`admin_irclogs`.`logs`.`message` at row 1
L551[10:18:46] <Michiyo> at
com.mysql.jdbc.PreparedStatement.executeBatchSerially(PreparedStatement.java:1269)
L552[10:18:46] <Michiyo> at
com.mysql.jdbc.PreparedStatement.executeBatch(PreparedStatement.java:955)
L553[10:18:46] <Michiyo> at
pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot.<init>(IRCBot.java:157)
L554[10:18:46] <Michiyo> at
AppStub.main(AppStub.java:11)
L555[10:19:01]
<SnailDOS>
What the fuck?
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L558[10:20:51] <Michiyo> %tell Lizzy I'mma
need your logs again, from the 9th on
L559[10:20:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Lizzy
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L560[10:21:14] <Michiyo> Looks like I'm
also setting my ZNC back to logging
L561[10:21:33] <Lizzy> lol, the lounge
webchat thingynotified me about MichiBot's ping but not
Michiyo's
L562[10:21:44] <Michiyo> lmao..
L563[10:22:03] <Lizzy> sure, gimmie a bit.
currently tackling through 260 unread emails in our helpline
inbox
L564[10:22:29] <Michiyo> heh no worries,
I'll be heading to bed soon, so we can worry about this in ~6
hours? lol
L565[10:22:35] <Lizzy> sure
L566[10:23:07] <Michiyo> Lizzy, what
timezone are you GMT-6?
L567[10:23:20] <Lizzy> i'm GMT+1
currently
L568[10:23:23] <Michiyo> GMT+1
L569[10:23:24] <Michiyo> ah yeah
L570[10:23:29] <Lizzy> it's 10:23 right
now
L571[10:23:32] <Michiyo> *I* was -6
L572[10:23:33] <Michiyo> lol
L573[10:24:25] <Michiyo> Test
L574[10:24:36]
<ThePiGuy24> test failed
L575[10:28:48] <Michiyo>
irc@Aurora:~/.znc/users/michiyo/moddata/log/espernet/#oc$ tail
2020-09-23.log
L576[10:28:48] <Michiyo> [10:24:25]
<Michiyo> Test
L577[10:28:49] <Michiyo> [10:24:36]
<ThePiGuy24> test failed
L578[10:28:53] <Michiyo> nah test
successful :p
L579[10:29:18] <Michiyo> So now my ZNC
logs at the same timezone as Lizzy's so if Neo dies again I don't
have to bother her for logs. I can just grab mine
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L581[10:29:43] <Michiyo> good night
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L584[10:52:24]
<SnailDOS>
bro
L585[10:55:04] <SquidDev> %tonk
L586[10:55:04] <MichiBot> Awesome!
SquidDev! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 37
minutes and 42 seconds (By 3 hours, 5 minutes and 44 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L587[10:55:05] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new
record is 4 hours, 43 minutes and 26 seconds! SquidDev also gained
0.0062 (0.0031 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4
=> #3. (Overtook Lizzy) Need 0.3604036 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
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L589[11:17:49]
<ThePiGuy24> that DTC kooks awfully like a
cat
L590[11:18:07]
<ThePiGuy24> and i didnt know
"cats" were that square?
L591[12:14:07]
<SnailDOS>
How would I use Security doors? in open security?
L592[12:14:11]
<SnailDOS>
Does it use redstone?
L594[12:16:33]
<MGR> It
has a wiki that explains how
L595[12:36:01] <Amanda> Inari: considering
I did that two nights ago, it's now definitely a murder present,
not an almost-murder present
L596[12:36:30] <Amanda> Where were you all
day yesterday anyways?
L597[12:36:45] <Inari> Hm?
L598[12:37:21] <Inari> %splash
Amanda
L599[12:37:21] <MichiBot> Inari flings a
mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda turns
into a lava boy until they recite the litany against fear.
L600[12:38:06] <Amanda> %sip
antidote
L601[12:38:06] <MichiBot> Amanda reverts
to their original state before any potions.
L602[12:52:00] <Amanda> Inari, the
half-dead snake is definitely dead now, since I sent that tell on
Monday night
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L604[13:14:10] <Atlasim> hi
L605[13:22:46] <Izaya> ey
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L608[13:24:27]
<SnailDOS>
Why hello there.
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L610[13:24:45]
<SnailDOS>
I'll be studying on my gaming computer since I left my laptop at
school.
L611[13:24:54]
<SnailDOS>
I am very smart as you can see.
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L614[13:35:55] <Inari> Amanda: More like
wondering that you mean with where I were
L615[13:35:56] <Inari> :D
L616[13:36:25] <Amanda> Inari: I didn't
see you say anything all day. :P
L617[13:36:51] <Inari> I was saving Eorzea
smh
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L620[13:52:34]
<MGR> Did
mDiyo make Tinkers Construct?
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L622[13:54:13]
<Kodos>
Yes
L623[13:54:27]
<Kodos>
Infiniminer is what it was called before it was ticon
L624[13:55:28] <SnailDOS> How do I install
hpm?
L625[13:55:30]
<MGR>
Ok
L626[13:57:52] <SnailDOS> Nvm its just
oppm install hpm
L627[14:02:13] <SnailDOS> Oh my god, HPM
is so glitchy, its just spamming DONE
L628[14:07:16] <SnailDOS> Anyone know how
to run a installed software with hpm?
L629[14:10:15] <SnailDOS> nvm
L630[14:11:44]
<Kodos>
Anyone know if vazkii has a discord?
L631[14:13:36]
<Kodos> The
answer is yes.
L633[14:18:17] <MichiBot>
KIDS REACT TO
OLD COMPUTERS | length:
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REACT | Published On 25/5/2014
L634[14:18:28] <SnailDOS> Kids these days,
It's not even funny.
L635[14:18:34]
<ThePiGuy24> bruh you posted cringe
:p
L636[14:18:42] <fingercomp> SnailDOS: as
the author of hpm, I advise that you not use it anymore :)
L637[14:18:47]
<Teris>
Aren't you a child?
L638[14:18:49] <SnailDOS> "YOU NEED
TO TYPE COMMANDS?"
L639[14:19:02] <SnailDOS> How would you
label a child.
L640[14:19:13]
<ThePiGuy24> oh boy you need to do
somethis to make the computer do something
L641[14:19:18] <SnailDOS> Yes I am under
18, but over 13, I would say a child is under 13.
L642[14:19:24]
<Teris>
No
L643[14:19:29] <SnailDOS> Why not use
HPM?
L644[14:19:40] <SnailDOS> It wor.. It.. --
It... *COUUUGH* It works.
L645[14:19:46] <fingercomp> 1. it's broken
under OC 1.7.5
L646[14:19:49]
<ThePiGuy24> legally, <18 is a child
(in most countries atleast)
L647[14:20:02] <fingercomp> because a fix
for a bug introduced a new bug
L648[14:20:04]
<Teris>
Dictionary on child: a person between birth and puberty or full
growth:
L649[14:20:10]
<Teris> You
have not reached full growth
L650[14:20:11] <SnailDOS> It works for me
fingercomp.
L651[14:20:25] <SnailDOS> How do you know
me? xD
L652[14:20:38] <fingercomp> the fix for
the latter bug is not yet in any stable release
L653[14:20:43] <SnailDOS> But yes I can
say yes to that.
L654[14:20:45] <fingercomp> but if you're
using a dev build, it may work
L655[14:20:55] <SnailDOS> I just use oppm
install hpm and it just worked.
L656[14:20:58] <SnailDOS> So ya. Idk
L657[14:21:19] <fingercomp> 2. we want to
shut down the hel repository at some point
L658[14:21:26] <SnailDOS> NO DONT
L659[14:21:37] <SnailDOS> Oh my god please
don't.
L660[14:22:06] <SnailDOS> I am happy to
host if hosting is a problem, Don't shut it down >:( !
L661[14:22:09] <fingercomp> all the
architectural choices we made were horrendous, and it had become
rather hard to maintain the project
L662[14:22:21] <fingercomp> 3. we're
archived all the repositories and stopped maintaining the
project
L663[14:22:58] <SnailDOS> oh...
L664[14:23:07] <SnailDOS> I see...
:(
L665[14:23:25] <SnailDOS> I am definatly
not going to set up a whole array and download every single thing
now that you said that.
L666[14:23:36] <SnailDOS> *Raid array, why
didn't that send through..?
L667[14:24:55] <Izaya> Just clone the
repos
L668[14:25:08] <SnailDOS> Wait, they are
git repo's?
L669[14:25:09] <fingercomp> since a few
years ago we've wanted to create a new version of hel, codenamed
hel 2
L670[14:25:18] <SnailDOS> Is that going to
happen?
L671[14:25:18] <fingercomp> we've got past
writing documentation
L672[14:25:29] <Izaya> probably, only a
masochist doesn't use some sort of source control
L673[14:25:41] <SnailDOS> Oh.
ALright.
L674[14:26:05] <fingercomp> *we haven't
got
L675[14:27:50] <fingercomp> if we manage
to get hel 2 done, we would be definitely tearing the old
repository down, although I would make sure to migrate the data
then
L676[14:28:05] <SnailDOS> Oh alright then.
Sounds good.
L677[14:28:06] <fingercomp> but
considering what the little progress we've made, probably not
L678[14:28:14] <SnailDOS> Lot's of people
are planning to do new things!
L679[14:28:23] <fingercomp> (we = Totoro
and I, by the way)
L680[14:28:40] <SnailDOS> Oh....
Alright
L681[14:28:43] <SnailDOS> I need to learn
lua
L682[14:28:44] <fingercomp> I don't have
enough motivation to start a new big project, and Totoro is busy
with his own projects
L683[14:28:46] <Izaya> There's always more
planning than action
L684[14:28:51] <SnailDOS> Is there any
good IDE I should know about?
L685[14:29:00] <fingercomp> vim, though
it's not an IDE
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L687[14:29:06]
<MGR>
Notepad++ and Adobe Brackets are good
L688[14:29:06] <fingercomp> but any good
code editor will do
L689[14:29:11] <Izaya> vim is good
L690[14:29:18] <SnailDOS> I heaed of that-
I Prefer nano.
L691[14:29:24] <fingercomp> what's good is
for you to decide
L692[14:29:30] <SnailDOS> I have VS CODE
2020
L693[14:29:33] <SnailDOS> Would that
work?
L694[14:29:33] <Izaya> NP++ isn't terrible
on Windows, there's notepadqq on Linux, if you like ... traditional
editors
L695[14:29:40] <fingercomp> I've heard
many people like VS Code and Sublime Text
L696[14:29:47] <Izaya> can you type text
into it, and save it as text files?
L697[14:29:51] <Izaya> that's all you
need
L698[14:29:51] <SnailDOS> Ok! And for the
testing...
L699[14:30:05] <SnailDOS> I make a code,
do i have to upload to pastebin- download on oc, and run
L700[14:30:09] <SnailDOS> Is it just
better to edit in OC?
L701[14:30:20] <Izaya> edit the files in
the world folder
L702[14:30:49] <SnailDOS> Server-
L703[14:30:51] <fingercomp> if you're
playing in a single player world, you can edit the files directory
with your editor of choice as long as you set bufferChanges to
false in the OC config file
L704[14:31:03] <SnailDOS> Ye well-
Great.
L705[14:31:06] <SnailDOS> I'm in a
server.
L706[14:31:07] <SnailDOS> yikes
L707[14:31:11] <fingercomp> on a server
you have to download the files somehow
L708[14:31:17] <SnailDOS> OH! I can
FTP
L709[14:31:19] <SnailDOS> I guess.
L710[14:31:26] <fingercomp> if it's
possible to connect directory to your host, FTP or HTTP
L711[14:31:31] <fingercomp> or raw TCP
sockets
L712[14:31:32] <SnailDOS> Or is there any
git client?
L713[14:31:44] <fingercomp> for OC?
L714[14:31:53] <SnailDOS> M
L715[14:31:55] <SnailDOS> Yes.
L716[14:31:59] <fingercomp> you can
download the files via HTTP
L717[14:32:03] <fingercomp> that's what
wget does
L718[14:32:12] <Izaya> that's what oppm
does
L719[14:32:25] <Izaya> you can make an
oppm repo, and add it to your computer
L720[14:32:30] <SnailDOS> Oh-
L721[14:32:35] <SnailDOS> uhm.
L722[14:32:37] <SnailDOS> that easy?
L723[14:32:46] <SnailDOS> xD alright
then-
L724[14:33:14] <SnailDOS> Alright then. I
better head off, I may be back I dont really know.
L725[14:33:16] <SnailDOS> Cya all.
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L730[15:04:41]
<Kristopher38> I made a crude sync script
for syncing stuff between my local pc and OC computers on the
server I was playing on
L731[15:05:13]
<Kristopher38> with http requests, python
webserver and some port forwarding
L732[15:15:07]
<webmilio>
I managed to somewhat port OC to 1.16.1, and by somewhat I mean
there are no errors in the code and the dependencies are
gone.
L733[15:15:07]
<webmilio>
I worked with another modder to accomplish this but I'm still
getting an error or two.
L734[15:15:07]
<webmilio>
I would be very very happy if anyone had some time to work on this
with me.
L735[15:16:19]
<Bob> maybe
payonel could be intrested as hes the current maintainer
L736[15:22:42]
<BrianH> Oh
yeah I should check and see if my pull request to Payonel's ocvm
was merged in or not
L737[15:49:55] <SquidDev> @webmilio: Is
it on GitHub anywhere? It might just be easiest to post the source
and people can look if they've a moment.
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L741[16:13:07]
<webmilio>
Uh @SquidDev I am pushing it rn
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L743[16:14:02] <webmilio> Alright this is
a tad easier I guess.
L745[16:20:19] <Izaya> > 114 changed
files with 687 additions and 833 deletions
L746[16:20:27] <Izaya> > one
commit
L747[16:20:27] <webmilio> Yep.
L748[16:20:38] <webmilio> I didn't intend
to push it to Github originally.
L749[16:20:39] <SquidDev> That's pretty
small for how ever many major version updates it was.
L750[16:20:52] <Izaya> I take it you
weren't working in git before?
L751[16:20:57] <webmilio> No I always
have.
L752[16:21:08] <webmilio> This was just a
dumb quick 'I want to use this right now so lets make it
work'
L753[16:21:13] <webmilio> *It didn't
work*
L754[16:22:44] <SquidDev> Does it
compile?
L755[16:22:47] <webmilio> Yep.
L756[16:22:54] <webmilio> All EntityPlayer
-> PlayerEntity, NBTTagCompound -> CompoundNBT, NBTTagList
-> ListNBT, SideOnly becomes OnlyIn (even though its not a good
thing to use), somne OpenGL stuff changed too.
L757[16:23:04] <SquidDev> Wow. I would
have expected many, many more errors.
L758[16:23:11] <webmilio> I removed all
dependencies.
L759[16:23:42] <webmilio> I would rather
get it working with no mod compat. and then add them back.
L760[16:23:54] <webmilio> Also most of the
stuff it used doesn't get updated anymore.
L761[16:25:36] <webmilio> Also SquidDev
there was probably awround 500+ errors.
L762[16:26:25] <webmilio> Oh yea if you
see stuff like 'Webmilio's OpenComputers', thats cause I forgot to
change it back. Keep in mind I had no intention of sharing
this.
L763[16:27:08] <SquidDev> Oh, oooooh. I
bet I know what the problem is - the Scala code isn't being
compiled.
L764[16:27:16] <webmilio> Thats because I
completely removed Scala.
L765[16:27:43] <webmilio> At first I tried
working with it but it wouldn't work, even when I updated it to
support java 8.
L766[16:28:53] <SquidDev> Forge extracted
Scala support into a separate module (Scorge??), so you may need to
depend on that too.
L767[16:29:29] <webmilio> 🤪 I'll try, but
I'm not sure how any of this works.
L769[16:29:59] <Amanda> rude.
L770[16:30:03]
<webmilio>
True tho
L771[16:30:13]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> Very true
L772[16:30:17]
<Kodos>
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t most of oc in
Scala?
L773[16:30:24]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> Cats make me very allergic
L774[16:30:27]
<Forecaster> all of it
L775[16:30:42]
<Kodos>
Lol
L776[16:30:44]
<webmilio>
:kekw: Yea I only removed it at the end.
L777[16:30:47] <Amanda> @Kodos other than
defining the inter-mod interfaces, yup
L778[16:30:54]
<Kodos>
Congrats. You have something that isn’t oc
L779[16:30:55]
<Forecaster> @Nathan - Car Gang pretty
sure you make you allergic, cats cause an allergic reaction
:P
L780[16:31:09]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> Shhh im blaming cats
L781[16:31:14] <Amanda> RUDE!
L782[16:31:20]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> XD
L783[16:31:27]
<Forecaster> I'm allergic to dogs, so I
prefer cats for that reason
L784[16:31:33]
<webmilio>
Damn ok ok so I'm gonna have to update the scala part too
L785[16:31:56]
<Forecaster> iirc payonel wasn't a huge
fan of Scala anyway
L786[16:32:09]
<webmilio>
I mean it could've just been made in Java :ech:
L787[16:32:25]
<Forecaster> it was Sangar who chose Scala
when he created it
L788[16:32:40]
<webmilio>
Updating this is going to be pretty god damn impossible if my IDE
doesn't suggest me stuff.
L789[16:35:31]
<Ariri>
%pet Amanda
L790[16:35:32] <MichiBot> Ariri is petting
Amanda with Volume 1 of the LN version of "Kumo Desu Ga, Nani
Ka". Amanda regains 1d10 => 1 hit points! Volume 1 of the
LN version of "Kumo Desu Ga, Nani Ka" returned a
DoesNotExistException.
L791[16:36:43] <SquidDev> Do it in Kotlin
this time!
L792[16:36:57] <SquidDev> Then it'll take
less than a week to compile.
L793[16:36:59] <webmilio> Would it be
possible to convert it from Scala to Java ?
L794[16:37:18]
<!0§A.pjals™> hm
L795[16:37:21] <SquidDev> I don't think
there's an automated tool for it - you'd have to do it by
hand.
L796[16:37:51] <webmilio> Yea thats
fine.
L797[16:37:58] <webmilio> It would take me
quite a long time, but it's still feasable.
L798[16:38:47] <SquidDev> Honestly, this
whole project is at least a month of work. OC is big, and Minecraft
is ugly.
L799[16:39:03] <SquidDev> It's gonna be
big however you approach it :D:.
L800[16:39:29] <webmilio> Well, time to
get to work 👊
L801[16:41:07] <SquidDev> Good luck! Feel
free to ding me if you get stuck. It's been a while, but I updated
ComputerCraft from 1.12 to 1.16 (albeit through each minor MC
version), so largely understand what's going on with the
code.
L802[16:43:07] <webmilio> I am also
running CC on 1.16.1
L803[16:43:21] <webmilio> But yea will do,
if I ever get stuck !
L804[16:44:14]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> Honestly never understood the benefit of kotlin
L805[16:44:22] <SquidDev> Proper
generics!
L806[16:44:49] <SquidDev> And data
classes. But that's fixed on the latest Java version IIRC.
L807[16:45:37] <Michiyo> the plan for a
very long time was to convert to Java, AFAIK
L808[16:45:43]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> Oh
L809[16:45:48] <Michiyo> Just, no one had
time. lol
L810[16:46:17] <SquidDev> Pre-Java 8 it
was worthwhile using another language. But they've improved things
a lot recently.
L811[16:46:25]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> I might beable to help idk i have classes going on and I
work constantly
L812[16:48:14] <SquidDev> Oh, Java doesn't
have `pattern matching' yet. I guess Kotlin has that and
null-safety.
L813[16:50:03]
<webmilio>
I have a newly discovered love for my keyboard and its capacity to
record macros on the fly.
L814[17:00:32] <Elfi> ...I had a sudden
weird urge to backport the Computronics soundcard to a native
implementation ._.a
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L818[17:36:17]
<Forecaster> @Ariri that's why I don't
bother with the mainstream ones
L819[17:36:20]
<Forecaster> I find my own
L820[17:36:24]
<Forecaster> :P
L821[17:36:43]
<Ariri>
¯\(ツ)/¯
L822[17:37:38]
<Forecaster> E:D needs some kind of queue
system, now more than ever, both for docking at stations and for
carriers jumping into a system
L823[17:38:31] <Ariri> True
L824[17:39:44] <Ariri> %ping
L825[17:39:45] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Ariri 0.38s
L826[17:39:56]
<Forecaster> %sip
L827[17:39:57] <MichiBot> You drink a
warpy boneboo potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a crimson wolf
lizard girl until they tonk.
L828[17:40:16]
<Forecaster> agh
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L830[17:41:44] <Ariri> %tonk
L831[17:41:44] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Ariri! You beat SquidDev's previous record of 4 hours, 43 minutes
and 26 seconds (By 2 hours, 3 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L832[17:41:45] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 6 hours, 46 minutes and 40 seconds! Ariri also gained
0.01025 (0.00205 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#9. Need 0.23735 more points to pass Kodos!
L833[17:53:46] <Lizzy> %tell Michiyo what
logs did you need from me again?
L834[17:53:47] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Michiyo
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L837[17:57:54] <Michiyo> Lizzy, from the
9th on
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L839[17:59:51] <Lizzy> okay, i'll copy the
logs over now
L840[18:01:39] <Lizzy> urghh, idk why the
proxmox web interface has totp issues if firefox has been running
for a while
L841[18:02:35]
<e̔͗ͭ͐r̈ͦ̿ͫ̄̚p͛ͦ͝.̓ͤͤ̍̈͂l̂̅̓̌ͪ͘͢> greets.
is there a way to click/place/break "remotely" for
robots? like not directly in front of itself, but one-three blocks
further?
L842[18:02:55] <Lizzy> oh right i'm on
linux, i can just ssh to my server
L843[18:02:55]
<Forecaster> no
L844[18:03:28]
<e̔͗ͭ͐r̈ͦ̿ͫ̄̚p͛ͦ͝.̓ͤͤ̍̈͂l̂̅̓̌ͪ͘͢> 😢
L845[18:05:22] <Lizzy> Michiyo, k, should
be in the loggerbot folder in the irc user
L846[18:06:30] <Lizzy> and is now owned by
the irc user of your container
L847[18:06:50] <Lizzy> also you have
slightly earlier than the 9th, i couldn't be bothered to filter it
lol
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L849[18:08:06] <Michiyo> lol thanks
L850[18:08:17] <Michiyo> I've got my
logging running now so I can do this moving forward without having
to bug you
L851[18:09:14] <Lizzy> cool cool
L852[18:09:21] <Michiyo> OH
L853[18:09:25] <Michiyo> I think I see why
it broke
L854[18:09:28] <Michiyo> fuckin
discord
L855[18:09:31] <Michiyo>
<⎛⎝𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖗𝖕𝖘𝖊⎠⎞>
L856[18:09:57] <Michiyo> [23:21:21]
<⎛⎝𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖗𝖕𝖘𝖊⎠⎞> bro HOW do I actually make
my robot run a floppy program? I have the floppy in the robot but I
can't seem to do anything to amke it do that thing
L857[18:10:04] <Michiyo> Yeah, that's the
message that killed the SQL connection
L858[18:10:37]
<ThePiGuy24> mmm unicode
L859[18:10:44]
<ThePiGuy24> always fun to deal with
L860[18:10:49] <Amanda> What's with the
trend of stupid unicode nicks on discord?
L861[18:11:11]
<ThePiGuy24> makes you look edgy or some
shit
L863[18:11:33] <Amanda> Discord must be a
nightmare for screen-reader users
L864[18:12:06] <Amanda> UNICODE SANS SERIF
R UNICODE SANS SERIF LOWERCASE E UNICODE SANS SERIF... says
L865[18:13:48] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L866[18:13:48] <MichiBot> Inari is petting
Amanda with Царь Бомба. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! Царь
Бомба experienced a segfault.
L867[18:13:58] <Inari> %translate Царь
Бомба
L868[18:13:58] <MichiBot> King Bomb
L869[18:14:18] <Amanda> I think that's
cryllic for tsar bomba
L870[18:14:37] <Amanda> you know, the
stupid-huge nuke the USSR (Or was it russia by then?) made
L871[18:14:43]
<ThePiGuy24> correct
L872[18:14:52]
<ThePiGuy24> it was USSR
L873[18:15:22]
<MGR> It
was the USSR
L874[18:15:22]
<ThePiGuy24> or СССР of you wanna be
cyrrilic
L875[18:16:04] <Inari> Amanda: meow
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L878[18:17:20]
<Forecaster> Space force is go!
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L880[18:22:22] <Michiyo> Yeah, I can't
import any logs with this dudes name in it.
L881[18:22:37] <Michiyo> So I either
change their name, or remove their messages..
L882[18:23:09]
<Forecaster> change their name to
"IHateSQL"
L883[18:23:13] <Michiyo> lol
L884[18:24:00] <Inari> fix the
import
L885[18:24:01] <Inari> \o/
L886[18:27:44] <Michiyo> Inari, sure
sure... hey could you tell me WTF exactly I need to do to
fix:
L887[18:27:45] <Michiyo>
java.sql.BatchUpdateException: Data truncation: Incorrect string
value: '\xF0\x9F\x90\xB1\x0F ...' for column
`admin_irclogs`.`logs`.`message` at row 1
L888[18:27:45] <Michiyo> at
com.mysql.jdbc.PreparedStatement.executeBatchSerially(PreparedStatement.java:1269)
L889[18:27:45] <Michiyo> at
com.mysql.jdbc.PreparedStatement.executeBatch(PreparedStatement.java:955)
L890[18:27:45] <Michiyo> at
pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot.<init>(IRCBot.java:157)
L891[18:27:46] <Michiyo> at
AppStub.main(AppStub.java:11)
L892[18:27:54] <Michiyo> ? Cause if so
that'd be neato.
L893[18:28:50] <Michiyo> Cause, that
*KINDA* looks like SQL told me to go fuck off.
L894[18:29:50]
<bot☢>
```lua
L895[18:29:50] <Corded> function
addNewAssline(Event,arg)
L896[18:29:50] <Corded> local function
msger(Event)
L897[18:29:51] <Corded>
print("push",Event[3])
L898[18:29:51] <Corded>
event.push(Event[3],Event[8])
L899[18:29:51] <Corded> end
L900[18:29:51] <Corded>
COMMAND_FUNCIONS[Event[3]] = msger
L901[18:29:52] <Corded>
sendMSGS(Event[3],COMAND_PORT,{"set_static","name:"})
L902[18:29:52] <Corded> print("puling
from",Event[3])
L903[18:29:52] <Corded> local _,name =
event.pull(Event[3])
L904[18:29:53] <Corded> print("got
pull")
L905[18:29:53] <Corded>
sendMSGS(Event[3],COMAND_PORT,{"set_static","name:"..name})
L906[18:29:54] <Corded>
COMMAND_FUNCIONS[Event[3]] = nil
L907[18:29:54] <Corded> end
L908[18:29:55] ⇦
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connection)
L909[18:29:55] <Corded> ```
L910[18:29:55] <Corded> any reason why it
the event.pull()
L912[18:30:00] <Inari> pls Corded
L913[18:30:01] <Michiyo> WTF.
L914[18:30:14] <Lizzy> also rip
ocdoc
L915[18:30:27] <Michiyo> Ok, A.) Why did
Corded not paste that.
L916[18:30:31] <Michiyo> and B.)
L917[18:30:32] <Inari> Michiyo: change
encoding to utf8mb4 :D
L918[18:30:38] *
Michiyo slaps @"bot☢"
L919[18:30:59] <Inari> Wonder why ocdoc
died there
L920[18:33:01] <Michiyo> Inari,
?useUnicode\=yes&characterEncoding\=UTF-8 which per my
documentation says that should be equivalent
L921[18:33:41] <Michiyo> Starting from
MySQL Connector/J 5.1.47,
L922[18:33:41] <Michiyo> When UTF-8 is
used for characterEncoding in the connection string, it maps to the
MySQL character set name utf8mb4.
L923[18:33:54] <Amanda> why the
backslashes?
L924[18:34:00] <Inari> Hmm maybe have to
also set collation on the table or so
L925[18:34:02] <Michiyo> Because java's
config BS
L926[18:34:05] <Amanda> ah
L927[18:35:33] <Michiyo> Inari, Collation:
utf8mb4_unicode_ci
L928[18:35:42] <Inari> Hrm
L929[18:35:55] <Inari> Thats on the actual
table?
L930[18:36:02] <Michiyo> Yes
L931[18:36:09] <Inari> Weird
L933[18:36:42] <Inari> What does it say in
structure fro the columns?
L935[18:37:33] <Inari> weird
L936[18:38:25] <Michiyo> You may also have
to set the server property character_set_server to utf8mb4 in the
MySQL configuration file.
L937[18:38:25] <Michiyo> Oh
L938[18:38:27] <Michiyo> Hmmmmm
L939[18:38:37] <Inari> So many
settings!
L940[18:38:56]
<Forecaster> set all the things
L941[18:40:01] *
Inari sets @Forecaster''s safety
L942[18:40:25]
<Forecaster> aww but I like being unsafe
D:
L943[18:40:31] <Inari> owo
L944[18:41:39] <Michiyo>
java.sql.BatchUpdateException: Data truncation: Incorrect string
value: '\xF0\x9D\x95\xBD\xF0\x9D...' for column
`admin_irclogs`.`logs`.`message` at row 1
L945[18:41:41] <Michiyo> still getting
it
L946[18:41:42] <Michiyo> ._.
L947[18:42:47] <Inari> rip
L949[18:44:47] <Amanda> Michiyo: that's
not UTF-8 you're feeding it
L950[18:45:01] <Amanda> Michiyo:
>>>
u"<⎛⎝𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖗𝖕𝖘𝖊⎠⎞>".encode("utf-8")
L951[18:45:01] <Amanda>
'<\xe2\x8e\x9b\xe2\x8e\x9d\xf0\x9d\x95\xbd\xf0\x9d\x96\x8a\xf0\x9d\x96\x88\xf0\x9d\x96\x94\xe2\x80\x8b\xf0\x9d\x96\x97\xf0\x9d\x96\x95\xf0\x9d\x96\x98\xf0\x9d\x96\x8a\xe2\x8e\xa0\xe2\x8e\x9e>'
L952[18:45:19] <Michiyo> Que?
L953[18:45:49] <Amanda> I assume you're
inserting <nick> message
L954[18:45:56] <Amanda> where nick is the
corded-parsedmessage
L955[18:46:12] <Amanda> rather, the corded
message parsed
L956[18:46:44] <Michiyo> nick is whatever
corded says the nick is
L957[18:46:46] <Michiyo> I can't fucking
type
L958[18:46:47] <Michiyo> <_<
L960[18:46:53] <MichiBot> Tue Sep 22
01:12:54 UTC 2020 @Laughing_Mantis: Ever want to test systems &
see if your password is ever stored/sent in plaintext?
L961[18:47:32] <Amanda> so yeah,
something's not spitting out utf-8 where it should be, I'm not sure
what encoding that is though. I just used the above python repl
one-liner to see what it'd encode as.
L962[18:47:45] <Inari> Which doesn't
actually work though
L963[18:48:11]
<bot☢> can
you not have "-" in a eventID?
L964[18:49:15] <Inari> Because it has to
be a file that only contains that string
L965[18:49:21] <Inari> Why would you save
passwords in a txt file invidivudally
L968[18:51:17] <Michiyo> so IN THEORY Java
is getting utf-8 out of the log file, and will ALSO be getting UTF8
out of the message when Neo catches them.
L969[18:51:37] <Inari> keyword
theory
L970[18:51:38] <Inari> :D
L971[18:55:38] <Michiyo> Well, parental
duty calls.
L972[18:55:42] <Michiyo> so AFK
L973[18:55:45] <Amanda> Michiyo: try
removing the ".toString()" at the end of the
"m.group(foo).toString()" bits?
L974[18:56:11] <Amanda> Accordng to the
javadocs, they should already be strings, so it might be throwing
away the encoding information or similar
L975[18:57:58] <Michiyo> Well, it dies in
the actual log insert method outside the importer as well.
L977[18:58:32] <Michiyo> But I'll see
about removing the toString when I get back
L978[18:58:49] <Michiyo> I don't have a
build environment for logger bot anymore, so it'll be fun
L979[19:00:38] <Amanda> hrm, not sure
though
L980[19:00:45] <Amanda>
s/though/then/
L981[19:00:45] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
hrm, not sure then
L982[19:18:58]
<Ocawesome101> Izaya: i'm left handed so i
have few or none of your issues with back buttons :p
L983[19:19:29] <Amanda> Just have to worry
about the increased mortality rate with industrial machines,
then!
L984[19:22:15]
<Ocawesome101> hum
L985[19:22:27]
<Ocawesome101> TIL that `moonc` doesn't
work on Lua 5.4 because `module` got removed
L986[19:32:50] <SquidDev> Wasn't module
deprecated in 5.1?
L987[19:35:08]
<Ocawesome101> very possible
L988[19:35:29]
<Ocawesome101> i've never been entirely
clear on what exactly `module` does
L989[19:36:06]
<Ocawesome101> oh, it's not present in 5.3
either
L990[19:36:08] <SquidDev> Magically gets
all globals defined in this program and does _G[module_name] =
your_globals
L991[19:36:11]
<Ocawesome101> ...yet somehow `moonc`
works???
L992[19:36:17]
<Ocawesome101> ah i see
L993[19:36:22]
<Ocawesome101> so like `os.loadAPI` sort
of?
L994[19:36:30] <SquidDev> Exactly like it,
yes.
L995[19:36:39] <SquidDev> But inside the
module, rather than externally.
L996[19:36:49]
<Ocawesome101> now i understand why it was
deprecated :p
L997[19:37:01] <SquidDev> Yeah. It /works/
with require, but doesn't play well with it.
L998[20:18:19] <dequbed> Michiyo: What do
I get if I throw terrible unicode misscodings into #oc so Neo
breaks all the time everytime? 0:)
L999[20:19:02] <Amanda> banned,
probably
L1000[20:20:32] <Amanda> %choose space or
robots
L1001[20:20:32] <MichiBot> Amanda: Eeny,
meeny, miny, robots.
L1002[20:29:29] <Michiyo> dequbed, what
Amanda said
L1003[20:30:09] <Amanda> butnot what I
meant
L1004[20:30:22] <Amanda>
</bucket>
L1005[20:31:30] <dequbed> Michiyo: Awww
:(
L1007[20:44:54]
<Ocawesome101> tfw school doesn't let you
use wikipedia because "unreliable source"
L1008[20:45:27]
<Forecaster> well, that's why you check
the sources wikipedia cites, then cite those
L1009[20:49:28]
<Ocawesome101> yep
L1010[20:52:15]
<Kristopher38> @Forecaster what's the
current mining meta?
L1011[20:52:22]
<Kristopher38> in elite that is
L1012[20:52:36]
<Forecaster> I dunno, I don't really do
that stuff
L1013[20:52:39]
<Forecaster> I do my own thing
L1014[20:52:42]
<Kristopher38> :GWchadThonkery:
L1015[20:52:45]
<Kristopher38> and that is?
L1016[20:52:58]
<Forecaster> I mine LTD's from
hotspots
L1017[20:53:20]
<Forecaster> I have a double overlapping
one, but I'm searching for new ones currently
L1018[20:54:07] *
Michiyo stabs Java
L1019[20:54:12] *
Michiyo and MariaDB
L1020[21:20:37] <CompanionCube>
%tonk
L1021[21:20:37] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 6 hours,
46 minutes and 40 seconds this time. 3 hours, 38 minutes and 52
seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 7 minutes and 47
seconds!
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L1023[21:21:12] <Michiyo> So, the fix was
very easy.
L1024[21:21:27] <Michiyo> *remove*
&characterEncoding\=UTF-8 from the connection string.
L1025[21:21:36] <Michiyo> and let Java
and MySQL figure it out on their own
L1026[21:22:28] <Michiyo> I think I'm
going to have to drop all of the 9th and re-import though
L1027[21:22:40] <Michiyo>
<????????????????????> is their nick, but IDK.
L1028[21:22:45] <Michiyo> Oh shit wait
though
L1029[21:22:47] <Michiyo> %shrug
L1030[21:22:47] <MichiBot> Michiyo: No
you shrug!
L1031[21:22:51] <Michiyo>
%actualshrug
L1032[21:22:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1033[21:22:59] <Michiyo> FFS
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L1035[21:24:54] <Amanda> %choose continue
trying to do the bus thing or do my usual thing
L1036[21:24:54] <MichiBot> Amanda: Wait,
what was the question again? Uhh... "do my usual
thing"?
L1037[21:25:03] <Amanda> sounds
good!
L1038[21:39:54] <Michiyo> ugh
L1039[21:39:55] <Michiyo> fuck it
L1040[21:39:58] <Michiyo> no logs for
now
L1041[21:48:51] <Michiyo>
java.sql.SQLException: Unknown initial character set index '224'
received from server. Initial client character set can be forced
via the 'characterEncoding' property.
L1042[21:48:53] <Michiyo> *sigh*
L1043[21:49:09] <Michiyo> I updated the
connector and still get it..
L1044[21:49:10] <Michiyo> so IDK
L1045[21:49:21] <Michiyo> maybe I'll just
revert everything back to using fucking text files..
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<Forecaster> %sip
L1051[22:09:34] <MichiBot> You drink a
soft rød potion (New!). Forecaster sees the sky briefly flash solid
dark blue then go back to normal.
L1052[22:11:12]
<Forecaster> Amanda wear did you do
D:
L1053[22:11:23] <Amanda> nothing! I'm
just testing my robot swarm!
L1054[22:11:30]
<Forecaster> what*
L1055[22:29:22] <Ariri> u wot
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L1059[22:36:07] *
Michiyo sighs
L1060[22:38:32] <Michiyo> Warning: #1366
Incorrect string value: '\xF0\x9D\x95\xBD\xF0\x9D...' for column
`admin_irclogs`.`logs`.`message` at row 1
L1061[22:38:38] <Michiyo> So I get that
if I try to insert it directly
L1062[22:44:06] <Ariri> ~~Just kick
anyone with edgy unicode names~~
L1063[22:44:15] <Michiyo> Yeah..
L1064[22:44:17] <Michiyo> not a bad
idea.
L1065[22:45:01] <Ariri> I dont see how
one can say their username anyways to get a friend request. Youd
have to copy-paste it from somewhere else
L1066[22:45:25] <Ariri> Which is rather
silly imo
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L1068[22:46:42]
<BrisingrAerowing> I’ve had to do that on
another Discord server. Super annoying.
L1069[22:48:43] <Ariri> "Hey add me
on Discord its 0xe2 0x8e 0x9b 0xe2 0x8e 0x9d 0xf0 0x9d 0x95 0xbd
0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x8a 0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x88 0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x94 0xe2
0x80 0x8b 0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x97 0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x95 0xf0 0x9d 0x96
0x98 0xf0 0x9d 0x96 0x8a 0xe2 0x8e 0xa0 0xe2 0x8e
0x9e#5432"
L1070[22:49:06] <Ariri> I couldnt even
mention them to find their actual tag so i just but random
numbers
L1071[22:50:18] <Ariri> put*
L1072[22:53:42] <Michiyo>
%actualshrug
L1073[22:53:42] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1074[22:53:57] <Michiyo> Well, atleast
we are back where we started.
L1075[22:54:26] <Michiyo> now I need to
delete anything newer than 18:02, and re-import newer stuff
L1076[22:55:00] <Michiyo> so...
SHHHHHHHH
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L1079[22:59:08] <Michiyo> Ok, you're now
free to converse
L1081[23:01:22] <Ariri> This message is
part of a conversation, recorded by Neo to be observed at any later
date
L1082[23:02:07] <Ariri> Izaya, reminds me
of when AdorableCatgirl said they were the holy trinity cubed of
shitposts
L1083[23:02:46] <Izaya> ngl I don't
actually get what that means
L1084[23:03:03] <Ariri> %oclogs
L1087[23:05:06] <Izaya> I mean, I don't
really get the religious references
L1088[23:05:48] <Ariri> In that context,
it was more of an analogy I think
L1089[23:06:08] <Ariri> Idk what the
exact reference is either
L1090[23:07:25]
<bad at
vijya> huh?
L1091[23:08:59]
<bad at
vijya> all i can think of when i read that is sgt. johnson from
halo's line of "if god is love, then you can call me
cupid"
L1092[23:09:45]
<Ocawesome101> lmao
L1093[23:10:33] <Ariri> Might see if I
can make a cheaper arc reactor using tritium or something later for
SE
L1094[23:10:40] <Ariri> Or a smaller
one
L1095[23:11:53]
<bad at
vijya> i should boot up SE
L1096[23:12:27]
<bad at
vijya> man i wanna make avalon from acz in SE but
L1097[23:12:30]
<bad at
vijya> what's the point
L1098[23:18:16]
<Forecaster> because you can?
L1100[23:23:34]
<Forecaster> %sip
L1101[23:23:35] <MichiBot> You drink a
stirring rubium potion (New!). True enlightenment can be achieved
by drinking another potion.
L1102[23:23:45]
<Forecaster> Nah
L1103[23:39:16] <Ariri> True
enlightenment here I come
L1104[23:39:19] <Ariri> %sip
L1105[23:39:19] <MichiBot> You drink a
resonating aether potion (New!). Oh no, Ariri got a health potion,
there's probably a boss fight coming!
L1106[23:39:44] <Ariri> This must be the
point where I go through Ascension
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L1112[23:54:21] <Amanda> That IS rather
hard on the body. It's exremely painful and stressful to get
deconstructed at the sub-atomic level, ofc
L1113[23:57:09] <Amanda> I must share my
shame: `/c
game.player.force.technologies['logistic-system'].researched=true`
L1114[23:57:39] <Amanda> I can't do belts
well enough to have gotten yellow science into the science bus
properly
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L1116[23:58:30] <Amanda> So I've got a
requester chest somewhere which will extract 500 of the relevent
sciences fromthe network, and then I'll shoot it when it's
full
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