L1[00:00:40] <Izaya> payonel will be around
eventually and they're a developer rather than just a user like
myself so they'll be able to help lots more
L2[00:00:45] <agris> why do you think
that?
L3[00:01:10] <pentadyne> its the last thing
I can think of that might be causing it, it doesnt make sense but
it wouldn't hurt to tyr
L4[00:01:22] <pentadyne> and like Izaya, I'm
just a user so I can only help so much
L5[00:02:40] <agris> I sure hope it's not,
because that would mean there is some before I can re-enable oc on
the server. It's something I've been working on. getting the latest
stable build for mc 1.12.2 of forge on the modpack but there still
is work to be done for that. some of the mods crash the client on
launch on the latest stable and I don't know which yet.
L6[00:02:49] <agris> again, something i'm
currently working on
L7[00:03:07] <agris> ounce i figure it out I
should be able to update BetweenLands as well which will be super
nice
L8[00:03:20] <agris> (patches welcome via
email) wink wink
L9[00:04:38] <pentadyne> geez idk what to do
now that my package manager is done
L10[00:05:06] <pentadyne> I guess I'll add
custom databases or something
L11[00:06:37] <agris> why not use the
network card to open a tcp connection to a postgres database
L12[00:06:55] <agris> implement a postgres
client and or library in lua
L13[00:07:05] <agris> that'd be pretty
cool
L14[00:07:12] <pentadyne> While that sounds
very fun I dont have the skills for that
L15[00:08:16] <pentadyne> ah right I was
gonna add uninstallation support
L16[00:08:19] <agris> hey why was it chosen
to host this channel on esper instead of the big servers like
freenode?
L17[00:08:36] <Izaya> minecraft stuff has
traditionally always been on esper
L18[00:08:42] <agris> I mean don't get me
wrong I kinda like it. esper is a lot more chill than
freenode
L19[00:08:54] <agris> really?
L20[00:09:01] <Izaya> yeah #minecraft is on
here
L21[00:09:02] <Izaya> the official
one
L22[00:09:05] <agris> well, where have I
been all this time
L23[00:09:17] <agris> there's an official
minecraft IRC channel?
L24[00:09:35] <Izaya> well, notch was in
there at one point at least
L25[00:12:43] <agris> *cough* sellout
*cough*
L26[00:13:05] <agris> to the literal devil
of computing
L27[00:13:11] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L28[00:13:12] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
CompanionCube! You beat payonel's previous record of 3 hours, 40
minutes and 59 seconds (By 28 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L29[00:13:13] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 4 hours, 9 minutes and 16 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.00188 (0.00047 x 4) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L30[00:13:30] <CompanionCube> excellent,
lucky me
L31[00:13:41] <agris> ;p
L32[00:13:46] <CompanionCube> agris: There
are worse companies than MS.
L33[00:14:03] <agris> you mean like
oracle
L34[00:14:09] <CompanionCube>
Exactly!
L35[00:14:12] <CompanionCube> D
L36[00:14:30] <agris> or SCO
L37[00:14:39] <CompanionCube> SCO is kill,
no?
L38[00:14:57] <agris> yes
L39[00:15:11] <agris> that's what happens
when you sue your own customers :p
L40[00:15:21] <CompanionCube> Then they are
not worse than MS currently :p
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L42[00:27:17] 
<Ariri> I’m
installing Arch Linux am I a cool kid now
<Ariri> I’m
installing Arch Linux am I a cool kid nowL43[00:27:47] <CompanionCube> maybe.
Obligatory 'install gentoo'
L44[00:30:40] <Ariri>
What’s that
<Ariri>
What’s thatL45[00:30:57] <Ariri>
Using a torrent on this network to instal the iso :(
<Ariri>
Using a torrent on this network to instal the iso :(L46[00:31:38] <Ariri>
Highest 30kBs
<Ariri>
Highest 30kBsL47[00:32:21] <Ariri>
Anything I should know before using it
<Ariri>
Anything I should know before using itL48[00:32:25] <Ariri> Like
updates or something
<Ariri> Like
updates or somethingL49[00:32:26] <ben_mkiv> Gentoo Linux
(pronounced /ˈdʒɛntuː/ JEN-too[2]) is a Linux distribution built
using the Portage package management system. Unlike a binary
software distribution, the source code is compiled locally
according to the user's preferences and is often optimized for the
specific type of computer.
L50[00:32:46] <CompanionCube> before using
archlinux?
L51[00:33:01] <Ariri> Well
it’s still downloading but yeah
<Ariri> Well
it’s still downloading but yeahL52[00:33:11] <Ariri> Like
do I need to update some packages or something
<Ariri> Like
do I need to update some packages or somethingL53[00:33:17] <CompanionCube> You should
have a nice read of the archwiki guides
L54[00:33:21] <Ariri> I
only have like 5 min of Linux time
<Ariri> I
only have like 5 min of Linux timeL55[00:33:24] <Ariri>
Ok
<Ariri>
OkL56[00:33:25] <CompanionCube> they're
rather good
L57[00:33:40] <Ariri>
4mB/s ^~^
<Ariri>
4mB/s ^~^L58[00:33:48] <CompanionCube> 5min likely
won't be enough for a first-time install
L59[00:33:49] <Ariri>
*drops to 2*
<Ariri>
*drops to 2*L60[00:33:49] <ben_mkiv>
millibuckets?
L61[00:34:01] <Ariri>
Megabytes haha
<Ariri>
Megabytes hahaL62[00:34:11] <Ariri> Bad
capitalization
<Ariri> Bad
capitalizationL63[00:34:41] <Ariri> I
don’t need to do anything with the iso right
<Ariri> I
don’t need to do anything with the iso rightL64[00:34:47] <CompanionCube> nope
L65[00:34:48] <Ariri> Just
use it as a starting disk
<Ariri> Just
use it as a starting diskL66[00:34:53] <Ariri>
Aight
<Ariri>
AightL67[00:34:59] <CompanionCube> it'll boot to
an autologin shell
L68[00:35:31] <CompanionCube> networking
may or may not be automagically started
L69[00:36:12] <Ariri>
Okay
<Ariri>
OkayL70[00:36:12] <CompanionCube> from there
you can follow the installation steps
L71[00:36:17] <Ariri>
Looking at the wiki yeah
<Ariri>
Looking at the wiki yeahL72[00:36:30] <Ariri> I’ll
have to mess with the vm
<Ariri> I’ll
have to mess with the vmL73[00:36:47] <CompanionCube> it's not
extremely involved but it's not a fancy GUI/TUI installer
L74[00:37:26] <Ariri> Iso
is done let’s find out if I can do this without screwing up
somethin
<Ariri> Iso
is done let’s find out if I can do this without screwing up
somethinL75[00:37:34] <CompanionCube> it's a
VM
L76[00:37:44] <CompanionCube> what is there
to screw up?
L77[00:38:00] <Ariri>
Never used them properly before
<Ariri>
Never used them properly beforeL78[00:38:05] <Ariri> And
besides with my luck
<Ariri> And
besides with my luckL79[00:38:48] <CompanionCube> i mean, it's
not like screwing up the installer will touch your host's
data
L80[00:39:00] <Ariri> Yeah
I guess
<Ariri> Yeah
I guessL82[00:40:29] <CompanionCube> yay
L83[00:41:39] <agris> Actually I am running
Gentoo right now
L84[00:42:05] <agris> Linux viridi.local
4.19.44-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 16 01:26:15 PDT 2019 x86_64
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz GenuineIntel
GNU/Linux
L85[00:42:27] <CompanionCube> agris: my
desktop (mostly) runs gentoo
L86[00:42:34] <agris> mostly?
L87[00:42:39] <CompanionCube> it's
complicated/
L88[00:43:07] <Ariri> Is
there copy paste?
<Ariri> Is
there copy paste?L89[00:43:19] <agris> in gentoo?
L90[00:43:21] <CompanionCube> Not in the
live disk.
L91[00:43:29] <Ariri>
Ok
<Ariri>
OkL92[00:43:59] <CompanionCube> You can
install the guest additions for vbox after the install.
L93[00:44:18] <agris> QEMU is much better
than virtualbox
L94[00:44:34] <CompanionCube> agris: alas
i've been very lazy on the kernel updates for multiple
reasons
L95[00:44:40] <agris> and it doesn't
require additional third party kernel modules to be loaded
L96[00:44:53] <agris> what reasons?
L97[00:45:05] <CompanionCube> there's been
a few
L98[00:45:15] <CompanionCube> but i really
need to not be on 4.19.x :p
L99[00:45:31] <CompanionCube> (Specifically
.2)
L100[00:45:31] <agris> Why
L101[00:49:14] <CompanionCube> agris:
three reasons: laziness, Gentoo taking forever to versionbump
ck-sources, and the FPU kerfuffle in January. Mostly #1 right
now.
L102[00:49:36] <agris> what are the ck
sources?
L103[00:49:55] <agris> also what's the FPU
kerfluffle
L104[00:50:17] <agris> it's like a
kerfuffle, but extra fluffy
L105[00:50:33] <Izaya> $20 action
camera
L106[00:50:44] <Izaya> can record in
extremely grainy low bitrate 4k
L107[00:50:50] <Izaya> pretty sure it's
upscaled 720p
L108[00:50:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: y
tho
L109[00:51:04] <Izaya> why what
L110[00:51:33] <CompanionCube> why use
shitty 4k over lower but nicer-quality resolutions
L111[00:51:44] <Izaya> they're all equally
bad tbh
L112[00:53:00] <Izaya> 480p is marginally
less bad
L113[00:53:47] <agris> CompanionCube, what
do you mean by fpu-kerfuffle and ck sources?
L114[00:54:17] <CompanionCube> agris: the
latter is a kernel with a different cpu scheduler because it's
better maybe and why not
L115[00:55:15] <CompanionCube> the former
is because a certain kernel developer chose to play petty license
politics alongside a justifiable change
L116[00:55:56] <CompanionCube> %fling
greg-kroah hartman
L117[00:55:56] *
MichiBot flings causal sadism in a random direction. It hits
greg-kroah hartman in the face. They take 13 damage.
L118[00:56:06] <agris> CompanionCube, can
I read about it?
L119[00:56:22] <agris> also, why not just
patch the newest kernel yourself if you need a certain
schedular
L120[00:57:00] <CompanionCube> see
#1
L121[00:58:20] <CompanionCube> agris: look
it up on say, phoronix
L122[00:59:30] <Ariri> If I
see an error in retrieving file bc it was too slow does it retry or
do I have to reinstall the bootstrap
<Ariri> If I
see an error in retrieving file bc it was too slow does it retry or
do I have to reinstall the bootstrapL123[00:59:50] <CompanionCube> you can
just retry
L124[01:00:02] <Ariri>
Ok
<Ariri>
OkL125[01:00:09] <Ariri>
It’ll just skip what it has huh
<Ariri>
It’ll just skip what it has huhL126[01:00:11] <CompanionCube> although
that's a bad sign for your network :p
L127[01:00:22] <Ariri> Not
my network :p
<Ariri> Not
my network :pL128[01:00:27] <Ariri> And
it’s just one file
<Ariri> And
it’s just one fileL129[01:00:32] <Ariri> Rest
are fine
<Ariri> Rest
are fineL130[01:01:12] <Ariri> I
hope I did the partitions correctly ?
<Ariri> I
hope I did the partitions correctly ?L131[01:01:45] <agris>
CompanionCube,
L132[01:02:05] <agris> have you had much
experience with filesystems?
L133[01:02:18] <CompanionCube> define
'experience'
L134[01:03:29] <agris> oh this is a great
news site
L135[01:03:33] <agris> thanks
L136[01:04:42] <agris> CompanionCube, well
I kinda wanted to ask you for a recommendation for a filesystem to
use on a mainline kernel that can handle lots of simotanious io and
lots of files better than XFS]
L137[01:05:10] <CompanionCube> 'lots of
files'?
L138[01:05:31] <agris> for a webserver i'm
working on, hosting about 300 sites with like 20,000 files each not
counting emails
L139[01:05:41] <CompanionCube> XFS is a
very good filesystem given the feature set.
L140[01:05:53] <agris> hmm
L141[01:06:16] <agris> Do you have to tune
xfs to get it to perform better?
L142[01:06:38] <CompanionCube> I'm partial
to ZFS, but if XFS works normally stick with what you know for
now
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L144[01:23:18] <agris> yeah, normally i'd
just run zfsonlinux but in this particular scenario I can't
L145[01:23:25] <agris> i must use a
mainline kernel
L146[01:23:56] <CompanionCube> i mean,
dkms is a thing...
L147[01:24:21] <CompanionCube>
(performance on recent kernels is down though.)
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L152[01:51:31] <Ariri> I
finished the install, I’m looking at general recommendations on the
wiki now but does anyone have a gui they recommend
<Ariri> I
finished the install, I’m looking at general recommendations on the
wiki now but does anyone have a gui they recommendL153[01:52:55] <Ariri> Or
like anything
<Ariri> Or
like anythingL154[02:11:43] <Forecaster>
gui for what
<Forecaster>
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L156[02:18:40] <CompanionCube> Well, what
linux did you use before?
L157[03:00:43] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL158[03:00:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
bubbly rainbow potion (New!). You see the sky briefly flash solid
dark blue then go back to normal.
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L161[03:09:03] <Ariri>
Uh
<Ariri>
UhL162[03:09:06] <Ariri>
None
<Ariri>
NoneL163[03:09:54] <Ariri> Well
Ubuntu, but like for 5 min when I was like 9 or something I didn’t
know as much back then and didn’t see many uses
<Ariri> Well
Ubuntu, but like for 5 min when I was like 9 or something I didn’t
know as much back then and didn’t see many usesL164[03:10:14] <Ariri> Well
Ubuntu, but like for 5 min when I was like 9 or something I didn’t
know as much back then and didn’t see many different uses
[Edited]
<Ariri> Well
Ubuntu, but like for 5 min when I was like 9 or something I didn’t
know as much back then and didn’t see many different uses
[Edited]L165[03:13:09] <CompanionCube> hm
L166[03:18:45] <Izaya> I like XFCE because
it's relatively light for a DE, traditional, and has the best
panels
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L168[03:22:32] <agris> ubuntu spies on ur
shit ans sends it to amazon
L169[03:28:12] <agris> ubuntu is so much
garbage that's why everyone runs a fork of it just to make it
usable
L170[03:28:23] <agris> the xubuntus,
kubuntus and such
L171[03:28:49] <agris> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
L172[03:30:48] <agris> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2895517/ubuntu-just-switched-to-systemd-the-project-sparking-controversy-throughout-linux.html
L173[03:31:52] <agris> http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/
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L176[03:48:51] <bauen1> %tonk
L177[03:48:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
bauen1, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 4
hours, 9 minutes and 16 seconds this time. 3 hours, 35 minutes and
39 seconds were wasted! Missed by 33 minutes and 36 seconds!
L178[03:50:15] <bauen1> package managers
are easy to write
L179[03:50:22] <bauen1> until you start
having to care about dependencies
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L182[04:02:31] <bauen1> Izaya: cpio is
even simpler than tar to parse, seems quite like what you
need
L183[04:02:45] <Izaya> more complicated
than I Want
L184[04:02:58] <Inari> .
L185[04:03:08] <bauen1> how
L186[04:03:20] <Izaya> bauen1: I want to
pack only files, with no metadata besides name/path
L187[04:03:57] <bauen1> you don't have to
parse the additional fields and you can just ignore anything that
isn't a file
L188[04:04:09] <Izaya> but that's logic to
ignore stuff
L189[04:04:17] <bauen1> well
L190[04:04:23] <bauen1> you just don't
parse it in the first place
L191[04:04:33] <Izaya> that's logic to
only parse what I want
L192[04:05:00] <Izaya> I'm pretty much
thinking <entry length as 2 bytes><name length as one
byte><name><contents>
L193[04:05:07] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/591473366964109322/image0-42-1.png?width=707&height=676
L194[04:05:14] <Izaya> or possibly 4 bytes
and 2 bytes, respectively
L195[04:05:16] *
Izaya shrugs
L196[04:05:22] <bauen1> no, you literally
just read the name and size from the header and since the header is
fixed size, you can just skip it
L197[04:05:33] <Izaya> 4 bytes total, 3
total length and one name?
L198[04:05:34] *
Izaya hmms
L199[04:05:39] <bauen1> please don't
invent another standard with new tools
L200[04:05:56] <Izaya> if I can do cpio in
under 500 bytes I'll do cpio
L201[04:06:01] <Izaya> at any rate, not
high priority
L202[04:06:08] <bauen1> this was posted on
the forums: https://pastebin.com/raw/YbrVjRwa
L203[04:06:18] <bauen1> pretty sure you
can do it in under 500 bytes lol
L204[04:06:38] <Izaya> since when does lua
have <<
L205[04:06:46] <bauen1> lua 5.3
L206[04:06:49] <Izaya> oh.
L207[04:06:51] <Izaya> that makes
sense.
L208[04:07:55] <Izaya> >page is 635
bytes
L209[04:07:57] <Izaya> this is plenty
doable
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L230[06:27:30] <alexandria> > I want to
pack only files, with no metadata besides name/path
L231[06:27:34] <alexandria> cbfs?
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L235[06:36:30] <Izaya> ?
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L237[07:09:42] <bauen1> btw payonel
interesting weirdness happens once you add multiple
keyboard/screen/gpu components to ocvm (not that it's supported)
including making ocvm unable to exit (only SIGKILL will kill
it)
L238[07:10:43] <bauen1> or just running
fine
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L241[07:36:39] *
Izaya would like extra keyboards/displays via
telnet/similar
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L243[08:06:59] <bauen1> actually, ocvm
just needs to allocate more ptys (and make them attachable using
tmux/screen)
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L246[08:42:47] <Inari> https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XACNA-CLBfXOetmh_ZH-y8GzagEVXb23aAEtCqxLB6A/%3Fwidth%3D587%26height%3D676/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/398796907385716737/590886755222159361/image0.jpg
L247[08:43:46] <Skye> Inari: awu
L248[08:43:59] <Inari> Skye: telephone
awoo!
L249[08:45:05] <Skye> Awu~
L250[08:46:46] <Inari> %pet Skye
L251[08:46:53] <Inari> %pet Skye
L252[08:46:56] <Inari> ¬_¬
L253[08:47:04] <Inari> %pet Skye
L254[08:47:04] *
MichiBot brushes Skye with heaps of sleep. 7 health
gained!
L255[08:47:14] *
Skye zzz
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L260[08:49:14] <Inari> %drink random
L261[08:49:14] <MichiBot> You drink a
molten diamond potion (New!). Inari suddenly forgets a random piece
of trivia.
L262[08:49:21] <Inari> Ohno
L263[08:49:38] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL264[08:49:38] <baschdel_> What on earth
is wrong with this irc library ...
L265[08:49:40] <MichiBot> You drink a dull
copper potion (New!). Forecaster's hair turn pink.
L266[08:49:49] <Inari> baschdel_: ?
L267[08:49:50] <Forecaster>
o-o
<Forecaster>
o-oL268[08:49:54] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL269[08:49:56] <Forecaster>
okay
<Forecaster>
okayL270[08:50:05] <Inari> "hair turn
pink"
L271[08:50:07] <Inari> Nice English
L272[08:50:35] <Forecaster>
Me fail english? That's unpossible.
<Forecaster>
Me fail english? That's unpossible.L273[08:50:46]
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L274[08:50:51] <Inari> It's still kinda
odd
L275[08:51:04] <Inari> That programming
languages sometimes use serialize/unserialize
L276[08:51:09] <Inari> Instead of
serialize/deseroialize
L277[08:51:14] <Inari> Nice typing
L278[08:51:15] <Inari> %bap myself
L279[08:51:16] *
MichiBot baps myself with cherry blossom girl
L280[08:51:19] <Inari> :f
L281[08:51:47] <Forecaster>
it should definitely be serialize/antiserialize
<Forecaster>
it should definitely be serialize/antiserializeL282[08:57:24]
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L283[08:57:36] <Inari> EA: Loot boxes
actually “surprise mechanics” that are “ethical and fun”
L284[08:57:38] <Inari> Heh
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L286[08:57:50] <Forecaster>
yep
<Forecaster>
yepL287[08:57:56] <baschdel> #
L288[08:58:01] <Forecaster>
definitely both of those things
<Forecaster>
definitely both of those thingsL289[08:58:39] <Inari> Like who ever
thougth that would sound good
L290[08:59:00] <Forecaster>
whoever thought of it at EA apparently
<Forecaster>
whoever thought of it at EA apparentlyL291[08:59:48] <Inari> And whoever signed
off on it
L292[08:59:56] <Forecaster>
yeah
<Forecaster>
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L294[09:02:55] <Inari> TIL gold is
toxic
L295[09:04:09] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g47P600SIgc
L296[09:04:09] <MichiBot> the only
reason why i bought an amazon echo | length: 11s |
Likes: 872 Dislikes: 36 Views: 23,615 | by tomatoanus |
Published On 18/3/2019
L297[09:04:51] <MGR> gold
is toxic?
<MGR> gold
is toxic?L298[09:04:58] <Inari> Apparently,
yes
L299[09:05:24] <Inari> It just has to
dissolve to get into you though, an that needs like strong acids or
so
L300[09:06:00] <MGR>
Elemental gold is nearly inert
<MGR>
Elemental gold is nearly inertL301[09:06:12] <MGR> What
I'm reading right now says that it ranges from doing nothing, to
minor benefits when in compounds
<MGR> What
I'm reading right now says that it ranges from doing nothing, to
minor benefits when in compoundsL302[09:06:14] <Inari> Yeah, as said, it
has to dissolve with a strong acid or such
L303[09:06:29] <Inari> " Although the
gold ion is toxic, the acceptance of metallic gold as a food
additive is due to its relative chemical inertness, and resistance
to being corroded or transformed into soluble salts (gold
compounds) by any known chemical process which would be encountered
in the human body. "
L304[09:06:50] <Forecaster>
huh... how odd, an element created by javascript has different
margins despite being seemingly identical to an existing
element...
<Forecaster>
huh... how odd, an element created by javascript has different
margins despite being seemingly identical to an existing
element...L305[09:07:05] <Inari> Neat
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L309[09:07:44] <Forecaster>
all the same...
<Forecaster>
all the same...L310[09:08:16] <Forecaster>
computed styles are all identical...
<Forecaster>
computed styles are all identical...L311[09:09:26] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL312[09:09:41] <Forecaster>
is it because there's no line break after them in the html...
<Forecaster>
is it because there's no line break after them in the html...L313[09:10:04] <Forecaster>
heh, yeah
<Forecaster>
heh, yeahL314[09:10:08] <Forecaster>
html why are you like this
<Forecaster>
html why are you like thisL315[09:12:57] ⇦
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L319[09:23:48] *
baschdel realizes that powerline adapters and servers/IoT aren't
the best combination
L320[09:23:58] <Izaya> BOOM
L321[09:24:10] <Izaya> can you get
combined powerline adaptors/PoE injectors?
L322[09:28:11] <Forecaster>
looks much better when all of them are generated by js so they're
even more exactly the same http://tinyurl.com/yyk3hvgy
<Forecaster>
looks much better when all of them are generated by js so they're
even more exactly the same http://tinyurl.com/yyk3hvgyL324[09:29:28] <baschdel> Izaya: probably
.... (I have no idea, my setup looks like this: ISP - router/modem
- powerline - everything that needs internet access)
L325[09:29:45] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL326[09:30:48] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 5 hours, 40 minutes and 53 seconds! Ariri also gained
0.00765 (0.00153 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L327[09:30:48] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Ariri!
You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 9 minutes and
16 seconds (By 1 hour, 31 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L328[09:31:17] <Ariri> Ouch
I’d use a separate router
<Ariri> Ouch
I’d use a separate routerL329[09:32:13] <Ariri> It’s
less stressful and usually better speed and security
<Ariri> It’s
less stressful and usually better speed and securityL330[09:34:18] <Izaya> if only that were
practical in all cases
L331[09:49:57] <Ariri> What
stops ya
<Ariri> What
stops yaL332[09:50:05] <Izaya> ADSL, mostly
L333[09:50:39] <Ariri> Some
routers have adsl tho no
<Ariri> Some
routers have adsl tho noL334[09:50:45] <Ariri> Or
just power line that
<Ariri> Or
just power line thatL335[09:50:55] <Ariri>
Unlesss ur saying u need wired Ethernet too
<Ariri>
Unlesss ur saying u need wired Ethernet tooL336[09:51:00] <Izaya> ADSL and OpenWRT
support are effectively mutually exclusive
L337[09:51:02] <Izaya> VDSL even more
so
L338[09:51:35] <Ariri>
Oh
<Ariri>
OhL339[09:52:02] <Izaya> Best you can do is
stick your ISP routermodemthing into bridge mode and do PPPoE
L340[09:52:39] <Ariri>
Yeah
<Ariri>
YeahL341[09:53:35]
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L343[09:58:04] <Izaya> mfw I was never
taught about that time the US performed a coup to overthrow the
australian government
L344[10:01:45] <Vexatos> Imagine living in
a country where you could but a DSL modem and a router separately
from one another
L345[10:01:51] <Vexatos> without one being
built into the other
L346[10:01:57] <Vexatos> s/but/buy
L347[10:01:58] <MichiBot> <Vexatos>
Imagine living in a country where you could buy a DSL modem and a
router separately from one another
L348[10:02:44] <AmandaC> Vexatos:
Nonsense! That's not
""""Secure""""
L349[10:03:12] <Vexatos> I just don't
understand it, you see
L350[10:03:19] <Vexatos> you can buy pure
routers for €50
L351[10:03:21] <Vexatos> but no DSL
modems
L352[10:03:30] <Vexatos> most of Germany
runs on DSL
L353[10:03:41] <Vexatos> there is no
reason for any home to have a separate router
L354[10:03:49] <Izaya> all I want is a PCI
card that can do VDSL
L355[10:03:52] <Izaya> is that so much to
ask
L356[10:03:54] <Vexatos> and offices sure
as heck won't just get a €50 router
L357[10:04:04] <Vexatos> so where is the
market for €50 routers
L358[10:04:35] <AmandaC> Vexatos: people
who don't want the ISP to be able to remotely brick your modem to
force an upgrade
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L360[10:05:36] <Vexatos> AmandaC, but that
is what I mean
L361[10:05:40] <Vexatos> you can not buy a
modem
L362[10:05:46] <Vexatos> you can buy a
router without a modem
L363[10:05:49] <Vexatos> but no modem
without a rotuer
L364[10:05:50] <Vexatos> router*
L365[10:06:06] <Izaya> Vexatos: ADSL is
much more complicated than dialup
L366[10:06:06] <Ariri> So
ask the isp to disable the router in the modem no
<Ariri> So
ask the isp to disable the router in the modem noL367[10:06:10] <Ariri>
That’s what I did
<Ariri>
That’s what I didL368[10:06:14] <Vexatos> they cannot do
that
L369[10:06:17] <Vexatos> it's
literally
L370[10:06:19] <Ariri>
Fr???
<Ariri>
Fr???L371[10:06:20] <Izaya> you asked the ISP
to do that?
L372[10:06:20] <Vexatos> not a thing in
the software
L373[10:06:25] *
Izaya squints
L374[10:06:30] <Izaya> Vexatos: I can
stick mine in bridge mode
L375[10:06:31] <Vexatos> welcome to
Deutsche Telekom™
L376[10:06:35] <Izaya> what sort of shit
ISP routers do you have
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L378[10:06:56] <Ariri> It’s
America they don’t make that shiz easy
<Ariri> It’s
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L380[10:07:06] <Ariri> And
it wasn’t in the ui if I remember
<Ariri> And
it wasn’t in the ui if I rememberL381[10:07:10]
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L382[10:09:22] <Ariri> I
was like yah bruh I gots a 2 liter coke and a separate router and
they were like yeah gotchu fam I disable the wifi for you and I
like thanks fam squad happy patriotism and wall building
<Ariri> I
was like yah bruh I gots a 2 liter coke and a separate router and
they were like yeah gotchu fam I disable the wifi for you and I
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L385[10:10:11] <Ariri>
Might have to use google translate with American^^^
<Ariri>
Might have to use google translate with American^^^L386[10:10:17] <Ariri> To
understand
<Ariri> To
understandL387[10:11:07]
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L388[10:11:41] <Ariri> Also
question: is putting my virtual disk image on my usb (3.0) a decent
idea so I can move between hosts with vms
<Ariri> Also
question: is putting my virtual disk image on my usb (3.0) a decent
idea so I can move between hosts with vmsL389[10:15:13] <Vexatos> my router
definitely does not have such a feature, and my ISP has no access
to meddle with it from their end
L390[10:15:37] <Vexatos> I think older
versions did but they removed it as they are such a good ISP
L391[10:15:45] <Vexatos> so I'd have to
buy a new modem
L392[10:15:49] <Vexatos> but there is no
modem without a router
L393[10:15:51] <Ariri> I
frikin wish
<Ariri> I
frikin wishL394[10:15:54] <Vexatos> so I'd have to
spend at least €200
L395[10:15:59] <Vexatos> on a new
router+modem combo
L396[10:16:03] <Ariri>
Companies and their proprietary shiz
<Ariri>
Companies and their proprietary shizL397[11:06:05]
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L398[11:12:31] <bauen1> Vexatos: are you
on a fritzbox 6490 cable too ?
L399[11:12:53] <bauen1> some guy on the
vodafone forums: "bridge mode is only supported by cheap
modems"
L400[11:14:40] <bauen1> and if someone
finds a pci euroDOCSIS 3.1 modem, call me
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L406[11:53:23] <Vexatos> bauen1, pls
L407[11:53:26] <Vexatos> fritzbox would be
too advanced
L408[11:53:38] <Vexatos> it isn't
PROPRIETARY enough
L409[11:53:51] <Vexatos> also even the
"cheap modems" contain a router and are above €120
L410[11:58:20] <Skye> Something
funny...
L411[11:58:34] <Skye> I had fun with
DOCSIS modems since our ISP sent us too many
L412[11:58:39] <Skye> so they asked us the
MAC address
L413[11:58:55] <Skye> If I had my own one,
I probably could have tricked them to use that instead xD
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L420[12:11:46] *
baschdel really does not get what this library is doing
...
L421[12:12:13] <bauen1> i really don't
quite understand the whole mac thing, since you can usually
overwrite the mac from software anyway
L422[12:13:13] <Skye> bauen1: well you're
not able to change it without access to the firmware...
L423[12:13:29] <Izaya> erm
L424[12:13:41] <Izaya> I can change my
machine's MAC address with one command
L425[12:13:45] <Izaya> I don't think I
even need root
L426[12:13:49] <bauen1> well if you use
your own modem you still have to provide them with a mac
L427[12:13:52] <bauen1> which is just
stupid
L428[12:13:57] <Izaya> oh
L429[12:14:12] <Izaya> but point-to-point
links don't have MAC addresses? :^)
L430[12:14:45] <Skye> DOCSIS is like
original ehternet
L431[12:14:47] <bauen1> well cable modems
do
L432[12:14:50] <Skye> It's not point to
point
L433[12:15:07] <Izaya> it's an actual
shared ether, right?
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L435[12:19:33] <AmandaC> WEll, I mean,
they could make it so that you dont need to give them your mac
address, presumbaly, it'd just get rid of the ability to actually
bill you for it, I assume
L436[12:20:32] <AmandaC> but you're not
giving them the MAC of your machine, but of the modem
L437[12:20:57] <AmandaC> at least for
comcrap in the US that's how it is
L438[12:21:24] <Mysteryusy>
Hello.
<Mysteryusy>
Hello.L439[12:21:49] <Mysteryusy>
I have a loop which runs infinitely and prints a reactor's heat
value.
<Mysteryusy>
I have a loop which runs infinitely and prints a reactor's heat
value.L440[12:22:10] <Mysteryusy>
How can I make it that when inside the loop I can input 0 which
would exit the loop?
<Mysteryusy>
How can I make it that when inside the loop I can input 0 which
would exit the loop?L441[12:22:24] ⇦
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L443[12:23:58] <bauen1> my point is that
you could just give them 01:02:03:04:05:06 as your mac and then
(since you control the modem) just change it on the modem side,
combined with the "login" process you have to followed,
that makes the mac part kind of useless / something that should be
automated away anyway
L444[12:29:36] <baschdel> @Mysteryusy make
a running variable, attach a listener to the keyboard(?) event with
event.listen() on startup.
L445[12:29:37] <baschdel> Don't forget to
remove the listener with event.ignore()
L446[12:29:43] <Bob>
@Mysteryusy have an event.pull, to break out of a program or hard
interupt use CRTL + ALT + C (it will crash anything)
<Bob>
@Mysteryusy have an event.pull, to break out of a program or hard
interupt use CRTL + ALT + C (it will crash anything)L447[12:29:53] <Bob> or
alternatively event listen yes
<Bob> or
alternatively event listen yesL448[12:30:22] <Mysteryusy>
Awesome, thanks.
<Mysteryusy>
Awesome, thanks.L449[12:51:40]
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L450[13:04:56] <xDmaN> Hey
guys, how can I pass the character pressed with an event? So on
"key_down" i know which character was pressed?
<xDmaN> Hey
guys, how can I pass the character pressed with an event? So on
"key_down" i know which character was pressed?L451[13:05:24] <Bob> Look
for signals on the wiki
<Bob> Look
for signals on the wikiL452[13:05:27] <Bob> ive
forgot the format
<Bob> ive
forgot the formatL453[13:05:33] <Bob> but
event returns it
<Bob> but
event returns itL454[13:07:07] <xDmaN> So
if it's ``key_down(keyboardAddress: string, char: number, code:
number, playerName: string)`` then I ``print(char)``
<xDmaN> So
if it's ``key_down(keyboardAddress: string, char: number, code:
number, playerName: string)`` then I ``print(char)``L455[13:07:07] <xDmaN>
?
<xDmaN>
?L456[13:08:43] <xDmaN>
nvm
<xDmaN>
nvmL457[13:08:44] <xDmaN> got
it
<xDmaN> got
itL458[13:13:53] <pentadyne> hey does anyone
know where the program that handles running programs is in
OpenOs
L459[13:15:27] <bad at
vijya> what
<bad at
vijya> whatL460[13:15:28] <bad at
vijya> explain
<bad at
vijya> explainL461[13:15:39] <bad at
vijya> do you mean the shell?
<bad at
vijya> do you mean the shell?L462[13:16:07] <Bob> @xDmaN
no, you didnt assign char, thats the returns of the event pull
function
<Bob> @xDmaN
no, you didnt assign char, thats the returns of the event pull
functionL463[13:16:17] <xDmaN>
Yeye
<xDmaN>
YeyeL464[13:16:21] <pentadyne> like when you
run a lua file, I wanna see what openos does in the
background
L465[13:16:22] <bad at
vijya> pentadyne: do you mean the shell????
<bad at
vijya> pentadyne: do you mean the shell????L466[13:16:49] <pentadyne> I'm not
sure
L467[13:16:57] <Bob> You
cant see what its doing until you print or render it
<Bob> You
cant see what its doing until you print or render itL468[13:17:23] <bad at
vijya> that sounds like the shell?
<bad at
vijya> that sounds like the shell?L469[13:17:36] <bad at
vijya> i mean, openos's source is on github soooo
<bad at
vijya> i mean, openos's source is on github sooooL470[13:17:43] <Bob> @xDmaN
event,address,char,code,Player =
event.pull("key_down")
<Bob> @xDmaN
event,address,char,code,Player =
event.pull("key_down")L471[13:18:00] <bad at
vijya> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos
<bad at
vijya> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openosL472[13:19:04] <pentadyne> I'm writing my
own parser for a package manager, I'm basing it off the basic
concepts I gathered from my time using the arch package
manager
L473[13:20:33] <xDmaN> Any
idea why does it stop with every single key down not only Q
http://tinyurl.com/y5b9yftj
<xDmaN> Any
idea why does it stop with every single key down not only Q
http://tinyurl.com/y5b9yftjL474[13:21:21] <Bob> char
is already the character i think
<Bob> char
is already the character i thinkL475[13:21:29] <Bob> and
event listen doesnt register the event
<Bob> and
event listen doesnt register the eventL476[13:21:39] <Bob> so its
directly (address,char,code,player)
<Bob> so its
directly (address,char,code,player)L477[13:21:47] <Bob> i
think i might be wrong look in the wiki
<Bob> i
think i might be wrong look in the wikiL478[13:21:56] <Bob> ~~also
why coding in OpenOS, use Notepad++~~
<Bob> ~~also
why coding in OpenOS, use Notepad++~~L479[13:23:16] <Zef> It is
treating Q as a variable
<Zef> It is
treating Q as a variableL480[13:23:19] <Zef> Not a
string
<Zef> Not a
stringL481[13:23:25] <Zef> Put
quotes around it @xDmaN
<Zef> Put
quotes around it @xDmaNL482[13:24:29] <xDmaN> Same
thing
<xDmaN> Same
thingL484[13:25:29] <Mysteryusy>
Returns same "error"
<Mysteryusy>
Returns same "error"L485[13:26:42] <Bob> print
name keyadress and char to see
<Bob> print
name keyadress and char to seeL486[13:29:12] ⇦
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L489[13:30:54] <xDmaN> code
and output
<xDmaN> code
and outputL491[13:32:37]
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L493[13:40:31] <payonel> pentadyne: yuo
can run `ps` in openos to see running things
L494[13:41:46] <payonel> agris: lshw
causing a hang on the server?
L495[13:42:26] <agris> payonel, not a
hang
L496[13:42:31] <agris> a complete
crash
L497[13:45:40] <agris> also native
libraries are not loading
L498[13:45:52] <agris> in Linux
amd64
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L500[13:54:41] <lopezt> ey guys
L501[13:54:55] <lopezt> does anyone know
the dimensions of a chunk?
L502[13:54:58] <pentadyne> I'm loading a
file with load() and I can call methods inside the file but not
outside
L503[13:55:18] <pentadyne>
16x16x16']
L504[13:55:27] <agris> 16x16xinfinti
L505[13:55:47] <pentadyne> not quite
L506[13:55:58] <pentadyne> 16x16x256 if
you wanna count the whole chunk
L507[13:56:22] <agris> you can override
the max build hight
L508[13:57:35] <lopezt> hmm, i was tinking
a minecraft:map would cover a whole chunk
L509[13:58:29] <Bob>
16x16x16, cubic chunks allow infinite Y and it divides chunks into
subchunks
<Bob>
16x16x16, cubic chunks allow infinite Y and it divides chunks into
subchunksL510[13:58:38] <Bob> a
vanilla chunk 16x255x16
<Bob> a
vanilla chunk 16x255x16L511[14:00:03] <lopezt> ok i got it a map
covers 128x128 blocks what is 8x8 chunks
L512[14:00:25] <payonel> agris: it sounds
like a hang because you said it didn't crash right away
L513[14:00:43] <agris> the tick hung
L514[14:00:49] <pentadyne> I'd say its a
hang since it causes a tick to last for 60 seconds
L515[14:00:50] <payonel> right, then times
out and shutdown
L516[14:01:02] <agris> then the watchdog
caused the crash because of the hung tick
L517[14:01:15] <payonel> right, hang
:)
L518[14:01:28] <payonel> so without
nativelibs, i'll test that
L519[14:02:00] <payonel> pentadyne: read
about the environment for loaded lua chunks
L520[14:02:13] <pentadyne> okay
L521[14:02:29] <payonel> %lua function f()
return 1 end
L522[14:02:40] <payonel> %lua
file_contents = "print(f())"
L523[14:03:15] <payonel> %lua loaded =
load(file_contents, "str", { __index = _G }) ()
L524[14:03:15] <MichiBot> main:1: bad
argument #3 to 'load' (string expected, got table)
L525[14:03:22] <payonel> oh derp
L526[14:04:29] <payonel> %lua loaded =
load(file_contents, "str", "t", { __index = _G
}) ()
L527[14:04:29] <MichiBot> [string
"str"]:1: attempt to call global 'f' (a nil value)
L528[14:04:43] <payonel> pentadyne: see
how i can't use f inside that load?
L529[14:04:48] <pentadyne> yeah
L530[14:04:59] <payonel> %lua loaded =
load(file_contents, "str", "t", { __index = {
print = print, f = f } }) ()
L531[14:04:59] <MichiBot> [string
"str"]:1: attempt to call global 'f' (a nil value)
L532[14:05:28] <payonel> ok i'm an idiot,
i haven't worked in lua for months
L533[14:05:37] <payonel> %lua loaded =
load(file_contents, "str", "t", { print =
print, f = f } ) ()
L534[14:05:37] <MichiBot> 1
L535[14:05:58] <payonel> %lua loaded =
load(file_contents, "str", "t", setmetatable({
f = f }, { __index = _G }) ) ()
L536[14:05:58] <MichiBot> [string
"str"]:1: attempt to call global 'print' (a nil
value)
L537[14:06:09] <payonel> %flip load
L538[14:06:10] <MichiBot> payonel:
(╯°□°）╯pɐol
L539[14:06:28] <payonel> i'm a bit rusty,
sorry
L540[14:06:58] <pentadyne> I figured it
out, thanks :)
L541[14:08:01] <payonel> oh hm, my code
was right, MichiBot's lua seems confused?...
L542[14:08:09] <payonel> %lua
_G.print
L543[14:08:11] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt
to index global '_G' (a nil value)
L544[14:08:13] <payonel> ah
L545[14:08:18] <payonel> that's why
L546[14:08:25] <payonel> %lua _ENV
L547[14:08:27] <MichiBot> table:
0x7f226088fa60
L548[14:08:29] <payonel> %lua
_ENV.print
L549[14:08:29] <MichiBot> function:
0x7f22608990c0
L550[14:08:46] <payonel> %lua
load(file_contents, "str", "t", setmetatable({
f = f }, { __index = _ENV }) ) ()
L551[14:08:46] <MichiBot> 1
L552[14:08:51] <pentadyne> oh now load
isn't running my code rip
L553[14:10:26] <payonel> agris: which oc?
1.7.3 or 1.7.4?
L554[14:10:36] <agris> 1.7.4.153
L555[14:14:26] <bauen1> %help
L556[14:14:26] <MichiBot> bauen1: Command
list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L557[14:14:49] <bauen1> %lua return
_VERSION
L558[14:14:50] <MichiBot> Lua 5.2
L559[14:15:01] <bauen1> %lua5.3 return
_VERSION
L560[14:16:21] <bauen1> Is the source code
of the sandbox available ?
L561[14:17:05] <pentadyne> So if I load it
with a custom environment, using load("function test()
print("hi") end", "str", "bt",
PKGBUILD_ENV) how do I execute the test function?
L562[14:17:52] <bauen1> load returns a
function
L563[14:18:19] <bauen1> after running that
PKGBUILD_ENV.test would be the function you need
L564[14:19:32] <bauen1> %lua
t=setmetatable({}, {__index=_G}) local f=assert(load("function
test() print('hi') end", "=str", "t",
t))() return t
L565[14:19:32] <MichiBot> table:
0x7f21fc146040
L566[14:19:38] <bauen1> %lua return
t.test
L567[14:19:39] <MichiBot> function:
0x7f21fc145730
L568[14:19:44] <bauen1> %lua
t.test()
L569[14:19:45] <MichiBot> str:1: attempt
to call global 'print' (a nil value)
L570[14:20:09] <pentadyne> I didn't copy
it exactly and I found my error, thank you
L571[14:20:30] <payonel> agris: lshw with
luaj forced doesn't hang for me
L572[14:20:58] <payonel> how large is
youre server folder? is it something you could tar up for me?
L573[14:21:53] <bauen1> %lua
t2=setmetatable({},{__index=_G}) return t2._VERSION
L574[14:21:53] <MichiBot> nil
L575[14:22:01] <Vexatos> "I'm also
not a fan of this"
L576[14:22:05] *
Vexatos throws a brick at @Forecaster
L577[14:22:32] <bauen1> how does that not
work
L578[14:22:42] <Vexatos> nice pun I hate
it
L579[14:22:43] <Forecaster>
ow
<Forecaster>
owL581[14:23:20] <Forecaster>
what did I do? D:
<Forecaster>
what did I do? D:L582[14:23:23] <Bob> it
does not work because michibot doesnt use latest lua i
suppose
<Bob> it
does not work because michibot doesnt use latest lua i
supposeL583[14:23:39] <Vexatos> @Forecaster the
video you just published D:
L584[14:23:53] <bauen1> but lua 5.2 should
have support for __index being a table
L585[14:24:20] <bauen1> %lua return
setmetatable({},{__index=function(_,k)return _G[k]
end})._VERSION
L586[14:24:20] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt
to index global '_G' (a nil value)
L587[14:24:22] <Forecaster>
oh, you mean the video that my scheduler published :P
<Forecaster>
oh, you mean the video that my scheduler published :PL588[14:24:24] <bauen1> oh
L589[14:24:29] <bauen1> who broke _G
L590[14:24:31] <Vexatos> D:
L591[14:24:46] <bauen1>
%resetsandbox
L592[14:24:54] <bauen1>
%sandboxreset
L593[14:25:07] <bauen1> %resetlua
L594[14:25:08] <MichiBot> Sandbox
reset
L595[14:25:11] <bauen1> %lua return
setmetatable({},{__index=function(_,k)return _G[k]
end})._VERSION
L596[14:25:11] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt
to index global '_G' (a nil value)
L597[14:25:35] <bauen1> %lua return
setmetatable({},{__index=function(_,k)return _ENV[k]
end})._VERSION
L598[14:25:35] <MichiBot> Lua 5.2
L599[14:25:42] <bauen1> this sandbox is
ever so slightly broken
L600[14:26:05] <payonel> %lua
_G=_ENV
L601[14:26:09] <payonel> :)
L602[14:26:40] <bauen1> who wrote MichiBot
?
L603[14:27:04] <Forecaster>
you did, don't you remember?
<Forecaster>
you did, don't you remember?L604[14:28:11] <bauen1> i remember writing
a brainfuck irc echo bot, but not MichiBot, no
L605[14:28:53] <Vexatos> michiyo wrote
michibot
L606[14:33:55] <bauen1> %tonk
L607[14:33:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
bauen1, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 5 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds this time. 5 hours, 4 minutes and 10 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 36 minutes and 43 seconds!
L608[14:35:27] <agris> payonel, it's
6GB
L609[14:35:53] <agris> I'm not comfortable
sharing all my server data with you, but would a crashlog
help?
L610[14:38:00] <payonel> curious what PI
youre concerned about that isn't in a crashlog?
L611[14:39:04] <Forecaster>
Vexatos: I'm afraid I don't remember that particular pun :P
<Forecaster>
Vexatos: I'm afraid I don't remember that particular pun :PL612[14:39:57] <payonel> but anyways, we
could try sharing: `tar czf agris.tgz config/ libraries/ mods/
forge*.jar minecraft*.jar`
L613[14:40:07] <payonel> and whatever
start script you use to start/run it
L614[14:41:05] *
payonel is still curious what is bad to share that isn't in a crash
log
L615[14:42:11] <payonel> if you need a
upload folder, i can make one for you
L616[14:44:39] <agris> well it's a private
server and I don't want people going off and making clones of it
just yet
L617[14:45:02] <agris> i'll share it with
you payonel but please be mindful of that
L618[14:45:38] <agris> do you have a gpg
key?
L619[14:46:11] <Forecaster>
a list of mods is hardly enough to "make a clone" of
it
<Forecaster>
a list of mods is hardly enough to "make a clone" of
itL620[14:46:57] <Vexatos> >still using
gzip in 2019
L621[14:46:58] <Vexatos> payonel pls
L622[14:47:47] <payonel> i'll use gzip
until you tear it from my cold dead heart
L623[14:47:55] <Forecaster>
oh wait, payo asked you to zip up the server, didn't see that
<Forecaster>
oh wait, payo asked you to zip up the server, didn't see thatL624[14:48:24] <alexandria> %tonk
L625[14:48:25] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
alexandria, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 5 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds this time. 14 minutes and 28 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 26 minutes and 25 seconds!
L626[14:48:34] <Vexatos> payonel, friendly
reminder that I made this highly unscientific comparison sheet
mostly serving to show just how awful gzip is https://quantum-chemistry.is-pretty.cool/6PZo7uu.png
L627[14:48:44] <alexandria> dang
L628[14:49:06] <Vexatos> performed on a
random collection of binary and plaintext files
L629[14:49:10] <payonel> Vexatos: neither
the first nor last :)
L630[14:49:12] <Vexatos> 5GB in size
L631[14:49:13] <agris> payonel, http://www.nuegia.net/minecraft/shit.tar.xz
L632[14:49:37] <payonel> agris: i was
going to give you a private upload path, also you can dm if you
like
L633[14:49:59] <Vexatos> >tar.xz
L634[14:50:01] <Vexatos> see this guy
knows
L635[14:50:01] <agris> nah, just tell me
when you got it
L636[14:50:12] <agris> and i'll delete
it
L637[14:50:18] <payonel> eta 15s
L638[14:50:22] <Vexatos> gzip needs to go
die in a potat
L639[14:50:25] <payonel> Vexatos: i'll use
tgz just to annoy you
L640[14:50:28] <Vexatos> thanks
L641[14:50:31] <agris> gzip is not
actually that bad
L642[14:50:41] <payonel> agris: done
L643[14:50:46] <Vexatos> well, in my graph
it is therefore it must be generally awful
L644[14:50:58] <Vexatos> because my graph
performed on one random sample is definitely telling
L645[14:51:07] <Vexatos> I took multiple
semesters of statistical analysis so you can trust me
L646[14:51:50] <agris> you can buy FPGAs
on a PCIE card now that allow you to hardware offload gzip and use
it are speeds of like 10-40 GB/s
L647[14:52:09] <Vexatos> seriously though
zstd is like the only good thing to ever come out of facebook and
everyone should use it it's better and faster than both zip and
gzip. Notice the logarithmic x axis
L648[14:52:17] <agris> with a simple patch
to the linux kernel for kernelspace and a patch to userspace
tools
L649[14:52:51] <agris> bzip2 is a better
competitor to gzip for it's purpose
L650[14:53:02] <Vexatos> bzip2 is also
slower
L651[14:53:11] <Vexatos> by a factor of 2
to 5 or so
L652[14:53:41] <Vexatos> it's much better
at compressing though
L653[14:53:49] <agris> for for me, having
a transparently compressed ZFS subvolume that's hardware
accelerated it's tottally worth using gzip for
L654[14:54:02] <Vexatos> zstd is like
twice as fast and does better compression so
L655[14:54:13] <Vexatos> but sure hwaccel
helps
L656[14:54:34] <agris> you also gotta
think about implementation complexity and standardization
L657[14:54:48] <agris> especially if your
archiving something and want to read it 40 years later
L658[14:55:04] <Vexatos> I also recently
found out that lrzip is even viable on small archives less than
100kB in size, not that it really makes sense
L659[14:56:03] <Vexatos> lrzip is very
nice if you are like me and have to store some very, very large
amounts of source code of some old program you had to compile at
some point
L660[14:56:16] <Vexatos> (bless 1995
fortran code)
L661[15:03:42] <agris> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_ZJbT2OwA
L662[15:03:43] <MichiBot> Inside the
mind of a vintage Sony AIBO robot | length: 11m 59s |
Likes: 67 Dislikes: 2 Views: 1,605 | by Janus Cycle |
Published On 10/3/2019
L663[15:08:26] <payonel> agris: hmm. a
client failed to connect complaining about missing badlands
mod
L664[15:08:35] <payonel> weird, i used the
same mods dir you sent
L665[15:08:47] <payonel> betweenlands, i
mean
L666[15:09:17] <payonel> ah, the jar is
TheBetweenlands-3.3.13-server.jar
L667[15:09:26] <payonel> i assume there is
a client side version of that, too
L668[15:09:35] <payonel> lame way to
manage a mod
L669[15:10:48] <agris> payonel, yes
L670[15:11:15] <agris> grab the client
from my it's website
L671[15:11:16] <agris> https://www.nuegia.net/minecraft/
L672[15:11:51] <payonel> AND that causes
the client to crash on load
L673[15:13:20] <agris> which version did
you load?
L674[15:14:00] <Mimiru> bauen1, gamax92
wrote the lua stuff
L675[15:18:00] <agris> payonel, grab the
stable version of the client
L676[15:20:43] <bad at
vijya> i saw xz
<bad at
vijya> i saw xzL677[15:21:34] <bad at
vijya> lemme just
<bad at
vijya> lemme justL678[15:21:39] <bad at
vijya> pull up the thing about xz
<bad at
vijya> pull up the thing about xzL680[15:23:22] <agris> payonel, you get
everything working?
L681[15:26:19] <payonel> looks like we
have a repro
L682[15:26:36] <payonel> sadly, it takes a
good five minutes for this pack to load on my laptop :/
L683[15:26:51] <bad at
vijya> oof
<bad at
vijya> oofL684[15:27:05] <payonel> it doesn't repro
on its own, could be configs, could be cross mod crap
L685[15:27:07] <payonel> i'll poke at
it
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L687[15:39:08] <payonel> agris: fwiw, it
repros with native lua enabled
L688[15:39:25] <agris> the client?
L689[15:39:30] <agris> yeah the client
loads fine
L690[15:39:34] <agris> the server
doesnt
L691[15:39:44] <payonel> i'm not talking
about client vs server
L692[15:39:50] <payonel> i'm talking about
the hang
L693[15:39:57] <payonel> it repros weather
i have native lua or not
L694[15:49:58] <agris> what does repros
mean
L695[15:50:07] <AmandaC>
reproductions
L696[15:50:09] <Skye> reproduces
L697[15:50:23] <AmandaC> a test case that
causes the crash, so he can start debugging to find why it's
happening
L698[15:50:26] <agris> oh ok so you are in
fact able to reproduce the crash
L699[15:50:29] <Skye> yep
L700[15:50:36] <agris> good
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L702[15:54:44] <agris> How's your titanium
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L707[16:09:52] <Forecaster>
what do you mean 29% hack?!
<Forecaster>
what do you mean 29% hack?!L708[16:10:10] <Inari> Haha
L709[16:10:34] <Bob>
Hax0r
<Bob>
Hax0rL710[16:14:06]
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L718[16:31:25] <t20kdc> DEFLATE/gzip is
probably still quite useful for systems that need a balanced
algorithm size, given zstd's a bit more complicated
L719[16:34:52] <Vexatos> true
L720[16:35:06] <t20kdc> that said,
DEFLATE's got problems too in this regard - for any system where
the target size is, say, 64K, and algorithm size counts, even
implementing DEFLATE might be a bit much
L721[16:35:52] <t20kdc> I measured this
for KittenOS NEO stuff, and... there were gains from DEFLATE over
my algorithm, but probably not gains worth the implementation
cost.
L722[16:36:57] <t20kdc> Then again, my
algorithm's not exactly 8-bit-clean, so there's some data
optimization going on there.
L723[16:38:17] <t20kdc> If zstd is
absolutely always available in a way that'll have no cost to system
size; it's objectively the best. Outside of that, though...
L724[16:41:04] <t20kdc> Also, I just
tested this, and zstd seems to default to a worse-than-GZIP
setting
L725[16:43:13] <t20kdc> Input: 225280,
20kdc alg: 62016, zstd (default): 52295, gzip: 49493, zstd (--ultra
-22): 44121
L726[16:44:30] <t20kdc> It's probably
possible to fit DEFLATE in 10k, but still.
L727[16:45:51] <t20kdc> Apparently
definitely possible to fit it in. Unminified would almost
obliterate any benefit. Minified & itself compressed might have
some merits.
L728[16:46:23] <Ariri>
https://i.imgur.com/i2vEHXq.png Can someone help me
with this? https://i.imgur.com/i2vEHXq.png
<Ariri>
https://i.imgur.com/i2vEHXq.png Can someone help me
with this? https://i.imgur.com/i2vEHXq.pngL729[16:46:46] <t20kdc> You entered
"#", not "@".
L730[16:46:48] <Ariri>
trying to enable dhcpcd so it can connect to the internet
(post-install) and use openssh but
<Ariri>
trying to enable dhcpcd so it can connect to the internet
(post-install) and use openssh butL731[16:46:50] <Ariri>
Oh
<Ariri>
OhL732[16:47:23] <Ariri> welp
shiz
<Ariri> welp
shizL733[16:47:24] <Ariri>
thanks
<Ariri>
thanksL734[16:47:58] <pentadyne> ay my package
manager works now
L736[16:50:19] <pentadyne> if anyone wants
to see the monstrosity I created its here: https://gitlab.com/-/ide/project/amberkowalski/opencomputers-files/tree/master/-/
L737[16:50:52] <pentadyne> oh I messed up
the link gdi
L738[16:50:57] <pentadyne> https://gitlab.com/amberkowalski/opencomputers-files
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L741[16:53:54] <Ariri>
Still broke
<Ariri>
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L743[16:54:08] <Ariri> i
reinstalled dhcpcd with pacman but no luck
<Ariri> i
reinstalled dhcpcd with pacman but no luckL744[16:54:13] <agris> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3xIY3rSZs
L745[16:54:14] <MichiBot> Hacking the
NEC P3 mobile phone, 1990's style | length: 16m 15s |
Likes: 14 Dislikes: 0 Views: 302 | by Janus Cycle |
Published On 11/11/2018
L746[16:54:18] <Ariri>
dhcpcd interface dont do anything either
<Ariri>
dhcpcd interface dont do anything eitherL747[16:54:27] <Ariri>
`dhcpcd interface` dont do anything either [Edited]
<Ariri>
`dhcpcd interface` dont do anything either [Edited]L748[16:54:39] <t20kdc> Ariri: Check the
journal as it states?
L751[16:55:41] <pentadyne> have you
tried
L752[16:56:01] <t20kdc> So the network
device... might not be running in the first place...?
L753[16:56:05] <pentadyne> systemctl
enable dhcpd@[interface].service?
L754[16:56:44] <t20kdc> they already
started the DHCP client, but the interface's down and that seems to
be disallowing any systemd action from doing anything
L755[16:56:56] <t20kdc> so it failed
because dependency failure
L756[16:56:56] <pentadyne> oh
L757[16:56:58] <Ariri> it
should be... i did an install on my laptop yesterday i dont think
its diff
<Ariri> it
should be... i did an install on my laptop yesterday i dont think
its diffL759[16:57:54] <t20kdc> does `dhcpcd
end18` do anything?
L760[16:58:20] <t20kdc> ...wait, hold on,
is...
L761[16:58:24] <t20kdc> end18 even the
right network device
L762[16:58:27] <Ariri>
testing ^
<Ariri>
testing ^L763[16:58:33] <Ariri> no
its ens but still not working
<Ariri> no
its ens but still not workingL764[16:58:53] <Ariri> even
w/ .service
<Ariri> even
w/ .serviceL765[16:59:04] <t20kdc> systemctl start
dhcpcd@enp0s3 ?
L766[16:59:58] <Ariri> that
did something
<Ariri> that
did somethingL767[17:00:16] <t20kdc> check ip addr, and
if it stuck: systemctl enable dhcpcd@enp0s3
L768[17:01:01] <t20kdc> by 'if it stuck' I
mean "DOWN" now says "UP"
L769[17:01:22] <Ariri> i
think it got it but should i do enable anyways so it does that on
boot
<Ariri> i
think it got it but should i do enable anyways so it does that on
bootL770[17:01:24] <Ariri> it
says UP
<Ariri> it
says UPL771[17:01:35] ⇦
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L772[17:01:39] <t20kdc> well, that's the
DHCP stuff resolved then
L774[17:02:17] <Ariri>
think so
<Ariri>
think soL775[17:02:39] <Ariri> yeah
ping works
<Ariri> yeah
ping worksL776[17:06:54] <Vexatos> anyone here
happen to know how the hell to compile luasec on windows?
L777[17:07:21] <t20kdc> Well, it appears
to have a vcxproj file, so you have two options
L778[17:07:30] <t20kdc> which option to
use depends on how the local Lua was compiled
L779[17:07:38] <t20kdc> 1. MinGW. 2.
Visual Studio.
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L782[17:10:59] <Ariri> why
is its IP start diff than those on my network (10.0. vs 192.168.)
and i cantlog into ssh on it eitherway
<Ariri> why
is its IP start diff than those on my network (10.0. vs 192.168.)
and i cantlog into ssh on it eitherwayL783[17:11:48] <t20kdc> Might have
something to do with the way the network's setup
L784[17:12:00] <t20kdc> Check if there's
anything in the network status of the VM
L786[17:13:05] <Ariri> i
see that
<Ariri> i
see thatL787[17:13:14] <t20kdc> No, of the
VM
L788[17:13:16] <Ariri> but
it doesnt match the 10.0. in my inet
<Ariri> but
it doesnt match the 10.0. in my inetL789[17:13:50] <t20kdc> On the bottom
status bar of the VM, there should be a bunch of indicators
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L793[17:16:30] <Ariri> it
pings google fine if that means anything
<Ariri> it
pings google fine if that means anythingL794[17:17:05] <agris> google pings
you
L795[17:17:12] <bad at
vijya> in soviet russia
<bad at
vijya> in soviet russiaL796[17:18:12] <t20kdc> So apparently
NAT-based networking in VirtualBox requires you setup a
port-forward in the VM settings to access the VM in the NAT
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L799[17:21:27] <Ariri>
oh
<Ariri>
ohL800[17:21:37] <Ariri> so
do i portforward to the host adapter then?
<Ariri> so
do i portforward to the host adapter then?L801[17:25:21] ⇦
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L802[17:33:30] <lopezt> %tonk
L803[17:33:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
lopezt, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 5 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds this time. 2 hours, 45 minutes and 5 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 55 minutes and 48 seconds!
L804[17:34:05] <lopezt> what is going on
here?
L805[17:34:32] <alexandria> %tonk
L806[17:34:32] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
alexandria, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 5 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds this time. 1 minute and 2 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 39 minutes and 51 seconds!
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L809[17:35:11] <lopezt> i guess will try
to leave low prio in dota 2 now
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L812[18:17:17] <AmandaC> %8ball grilled
cheez?
L813[18:17:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L814[18:17:25] <AmandaC> :(
L815[18:17:39] <AmandaC> grilled
cheez.
L816[18:44:52] <AmandaC> %choose disco
zelda or space fish
L817[18:44:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40%
"disco zelda"!
L818[18:45:50] <AmandaC> %8ball put away
the computer?
L819[18:45:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [ The
Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L820[18:45:55] <AmandaC> That's a
yes
L821[18:46:11] <AmandaC> o/ nerds, I'll
check in every so often
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L824[19:16:32] <CompanionCube> Ariri: or
just use bridged mode
L825[19:16:38] <CompanionCube> that'll
also get you a 192.168.x.x IP
L826[19:18:48] <CompanionCube> agris: so
do you actually have QAT to use for gzip acceleration?
L827[19:19:01] *
CompanionCube will also be happy when zstd support gets
included
L828[19:28:05] <Ariri> Yeah
i figured it out, thx tho
<Ariri> Yeah
i figured it out, thx thoL829[19:35:05]
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L830[19:47:23] <Ariri> Im
installing a DE for arch and i already made a user while installing
arch, so should i make another and leave that for ssh or use the
same one but modify it to work for the DE
<Ariri> Im
installing a DE for arch and i already made a user while installing
arch, so should i make another and leave that for ssh or use the
same one but modify it to work for the DEL831[19:57:38] <bad at
vijya> how would it not work with the DE?
<bad at
vijya> how would it not work with the DE?L832[20:00:59] <Ariri> the
arguments were diffrent
<Ariri> the
arguments were diffrentL833[20:01:05] <Ariri>
something about a home directory
<Ariri>
something about a home directoryL834[20:01:33] <Ariri> oh
well, already installed sddm now
<Ariri> oh
well, already installed sddm nowL835[20:01:35] <Ariri>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Ariri>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L836[20:18:56] <CompanionCube> why would
you need to change the homedir
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L838[21:48:38] <pentadye> oh welp I forgot
the n
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L842[21:48:50] <pentadyne> there
L843[21:49:55] <pentadyne> anyone know if
I can make a program return false to os.execute in openos?
L844[21:51:23] <pentadyne> I tried
os.exit(false) but it doesnt work
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L848[21:56:46] <pentadyne> yikes
L849[21:57:41] <AmandaC> %tell Inari it's
definitely sleepy time giggles + the fact I'm so late in the loop,
but I just giggled for like a minute after trying an impossible
jump and beaming mess myself against whatever the black hole forge
thing is.
L850[21:57:42] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L852[21:58:25] <Burger> Incredible.
L853[21:58:44] <AmandaC> pentadyne: I
don't think you can do that. Unless throwing an error does it
L854[21:59:03] <pentadyne> I'll try
that
L855[21:59:05] <AmandaC> Burger: are you
cheezburger?
L856[21:59:12] <Burger> no
L857[21:59:18] <AmandaC> Aww
L858[21:59:33] *
AmandaC loses interested
L859[21:59:57] <Burger> I heard having
triple screens is a thing. Do I just make multiple screens next to
eachother?
L860[21:59:57] <AmandaC> %8ball explore
more disco Zelda before sleep?
L861[21:59:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L862[22:00:16] <AmandaC> Right. Sleep time
it is then. Night nerds
L863[22:00:50] <Burger> exit
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L868[22:33:04] <pentadyne> okay so
throwing an error, however desperate that may be, did not
work
L869[22:33:40] <pentadyne> for the record
I'm trying to make a function that returns true or false when
executed with [program] --query
L870[22:44:12] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L871[22:44:13] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 5 hours,
40 minutes and 53 seconds this time. 5 hours, 9 minutes and 40
seconds were wasted! Missed by 31 minutes and 13 seconds!
L872[22:44:19] <CompanionCube> :(
L873[22:58:32] <Zef> You
know it's good when you plug in a usb keyboard and it takes 5
minutes for it to start working
<Zef> You
know it's good when you plug in a usb keyboard and it takes 5
minutes for it to start workingL874[23:15:23] <pentadyne> one of my
keyboards doesn't work in bios
L875[23:15:26] <pentadyne> or grub
L876[23:15:39] <pentadyne> so I have to
have an extra keyboard plugged in
L877[23:30:41] <CompanionCube> what type
is it?
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