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L4[02:26:38] <agris> Hello
L5[02:27:03] <agris> I am a server operator,
and I'm trying to get the native eris libraries working on my
server
L6[02:27:16] <agris> I'm using OpenJDK 8 on
Devuan ASCII
L7[02:27:20] <agris> all up to date
L8[02:27:50] <agris> and I've even compiled
and installed Eris from source by hand, but the server keeps saying
it can't load the native libraries
L9[02:27:58] <agris> on the command line
itself Eris is indeed installed
L10[02:28:02] <agris> Lua+Eris 5.3.4
Copyright (C) 1994-2017 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
L11[02:28:02] <agris> >
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L65[04:19:30] <Izaya> oh nice
L66[04:19:39] <Izaya> if you turn off
client-side decorations in chrome
L67[04:19:45] <Izaya> or rather,
chromium
L68[04:19:48] <Izaya> and maximise the
window
L69[04:19:59] <Izaya> the window buttons
disappear
L70[04:20:00] <Izaya> compare:
L71[04:20:08] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/50645b14f6e56afbaeb48537a2ca708464e0485ef14502fc6fc925e47951a9a5.png
L72[04:20:14] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/4e54344a3cbf14df851b246a13b4a67e16e63cad1cb85fc1e4a1a6184aeb12ca.png
L73[04:23:41] 
<ayangd>
Hi
<ayangd>
HiL74[04:23:59] <ayangd> Is
there any limitation in geolyzer scanning?
<ayangd> Is
there any limitation in geolyzer scanning?L75[04:45:30] <bauen1> i guess i got
vt100/ansi escape codes to work (mostly) https://i.imgur.com/bj1dFKF.png
L76[04:45:58] <Izaya> :D
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L78[04:49:56] <bauen1> the ingame screens /
gpus don't actually have true color (rgb) support right ?
L79[04:50:44] <Izaya> you can set the
colour with hex colour codes
L80[04:50:59] <Izaya> but they only do
256colour and will choose the closest
L81[05:14:33] <bauen1> and now i have 24
bit color support
L82[05:14:46] <bauen1> also approaching
indention level 10
L83[05:17:41] <bauen1> oh god i've made
everything slow ...
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L85[05:40:25] <bauen1> %tonk
L86[05:40:25] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! bauen1!
You beat Kodos's previous record of 4 hours, 25 minutes and 24
seconds (By 2 hours, 13 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L87[05:40:26] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 6 hours and 39 minutes! bauen1 also gained 0.01115
(0.00223 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L88[05:40:38] <bauen1> %tonkleaders
L89[05:40:38] <MichiBot> bauen1: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L90[05:44:44] <Forecaster>
@ayangd the further from the analyzer the less accurate the
hardness reading
<Forecaster>
@ayangd the further from the analyzer the less accurate the
hardness readingL91[05:56:16] <bauen1> payonel: OpenOS ansi
\27[Line;Column[Hf] could be improvide, Line and Column should
default to 1 if not present (according to wikipedia)
L92[05:56:45] <bauen1>
s/improvide/improved/
L93[05:56:45] <MichiBot> <bauen1>
payonel: OpenOS ansi \27[Line;Column[Hf] could be improved, Line
and Column should default to 1 if not present (according to
wikipedia)
L94[05:57:37] <bauen1> ie. probably replace
'%d+' with '%d*' and adding 'or 1' after the tonumber in
lib/core/full_vt.lua line 38-40
L95[05:58:51] <bauen1> and you could get
rid of the additional pattern for \27[;[Hf]
L96[06:56:19] <Forecaster>
%sip RanDom
<Forecaster>
%sip RanDomL97[06:56:19] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem
to be a potion I recognize...
L98[07:15:18] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL99[07:15:18] <MichiBot> You drink a
oxidised lime potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a
smaller dull quicksilver potion.
L100[07:15:32] <Forecaster>
%sip ^
<Forecaster>
%sip ^L101[07:15:33] <MichiBot> The bottle
splits into two revealing a smaller dull quicksilver potion.
L102[07:16:01] <Forecaster>
%sip dull quicksilver potion
<Forecaster>
%sip dull quicksilver potionL103[07:16:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster
shrinks by a negligible amount.
L104[07:16:17] <Forecaster>
:O
<Forecaster>
:OL105[07:29:27]
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L106[07:44:32] <ayangd>
@Forecaster I just need to know is there any blocks there or
no
<ayangd>
@Forecaster I just need to know is there any blocks there or
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L109[07:48:27] <Forecaster>
then no
<Forecaster>
then noL110[07:48:55] <Forecaster>
there's probably a max range beyond which you get no readings
though
<Forecaster>
there's probably a max range beyond which you get no readings
thoughL111[07:49:12] <Forecaster>
other than that I can't think of anything
<Forecaster>
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L114[08:01:52] <Inari> @Forecaster won't
the noise still interfere with "block or no block"?
L115[08:06:50] <Forecaster>
if you don't go out too far I think you'll get a pretty reliable
"air or not air" reading
<Forecaster>
if you don't go out too far I think you'll get a pretty reliable
"air or not air" readingL116[08:07:38] <bauen1> if you apply some
statistics, you can probably make the readings more correct (on
average) too
L117[08:10:02] <Forecaster>
that's how you're supposed to use it yes
<Forecaster>
that's how you're supposed to use it yesL118[08:25:04] <ayangd>
Okay..
<ayangd>
Okay..L119[08:26:36] ⇦
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L121[08:27:53] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L122[08:27:58] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L123[08:28:04] *
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L124[08:28:40] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L125[08:28:40] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with a Magic miserable little pile of
secrets! (25%). 23 health gained (21+2)!
L126[08:35:38] <AmandaC> Inari: don't kick
MichiBot, kick @Forecaster
L127[08:35:56] <Bob> %bap
@Forecaster
<Bob> %bap
@ForecasterL128[08:35:56] *
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L134[09:46:10] *
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L136[09:49:17] <AmandaC> D:
L137[09:49:39] <Inari> AmandaC: Wht, I
just want to see if you warp around now when I don't look at
you
L138[09:49:40] <AmandaC> But I don't
/want/ to be stuck in some weird quantum state
L139[09:50:53] <bad at
vijya> what the fuck
<bad at
vijya> what the fuckL140[09:50:55] <bad at
vijya> is sata 2.5
<bad at
vijya> is sata 2.5L141[09:51:35] <MGR> Maybe
they mean a 2.5" drive with a SATA connector?
<MGR> Maybe
they mean a 2.5" drive with a SATA connector?L142[09:51:42] <bad at
vijya> maybe but
<bad at
vijya> maybe butL143[09:51:48] <bad at
vijya> man this fucking SSD is slow as fuck
<bad at
vijya> man this fucking SSD is slow as fuckL144[09:51:56] <bad at
vijya> i wouldn't doubt it means 2.5GBit/s
<bad at
vijya> i wouldn't doubt it means 2.5GBit/sL145[09:52:08] <bad at
vijya> max
<bad at
vijya> maxL146[09:52:14] <MGR> Unless
you're copying files around, you're not limited by maximum transfer
bandwidth
<MGR> Unless
you're copying files around, you're not limited by maximum transfer
bandwidthL147[09:53:17] <Inari> Not necessarily
true
L148[09:53:33] <MGR> You're
right
<MGR> You're
rightL149[09:53:34] <Inari> A game migth be
loading huge amounts of data constantly
L150[09:53:38] <MGR> But
it's somewhat rare
<MGR> But
it's somewhat rareL151[09:53:42] <bad at
vijya> tl;dr the SSD my laptop came with is dogshit
<bad at
vijya> tl;dr the SSD my laptop came with is dogshitL152[09:53:48] <MGR> I
didn't think of game applications
<MGR> I
didn't think of game applicationsL153[09:53:52] <MGR> Could
hurt map load times
<MGR> Could
hurt map load timesL154[09:54:02] <bad at
vijya> ended up being worse for booting an OS than a 5400RPM
HDD
<bad at
vijya> ended up being worse for booting an OS than a 5400RPM
HDDL155[09:54:19] <bad at
vijya> to be fair, data density comes into play with mechanical
hard drives but still
<bad at
vijya> to be fair, data density comes into play with mechanical
hard drives but stillL156[09:54:34] <bad at
vijya> it's a pretty standard 1TB WD Blue
<bad at
vijya> it's a pretty standard 1TB WD BlueL157[09:56:33] <Lizzy> SATA-based SSDs can
only max at speeds of about 500-600MB/s because of the limitations
that SATA has
L158[09:57:01] <Lizzy> in that SATA was
designed for hard drives that can only do one thing at a time and
not multiple in paralell
L159[09:57:17] <Lizzy> that being said,
some cheap ssd's have crappy controllers so that doesn't help
L160[09:58:59] <Inari> Huh, why do they
lie then and say SATA is 3gb/s and 6gb/s
L161[10:00:41] <Lizzy> i think it might be
due to a Gbit vs Megabyte thing
L162[10:01:16] <bad at
vijya> i think it's just cheap SSD
<bad at
vijya> i think it's just cheap SSDL163[10:01:33] <Inari> True
L164[10:01:58] <Lizzy> ah, i think the
6Gbits part is the max if you were to use some form of SATA
backplane
L165[10:02:00] <Inari> Sandisk lists it as
Gb/s not GB/s in the Dashboard
L166[10:02:22] <Inari> Though the drive
itself just says "6G/s" heh
L167[10:02:23] <bad at
vijya> so i'm installing deebeen on an SSD
<bad at
vijya> so i'm installing deebeen on an SSDL168[10:02:37] <Lizzy> deebeen? do oyu
mean Debian?
L169[10:02:37] <Inari> Anyway
L170[10:02:41] <Inari> My non-SSD uses
Sata too
L171[10:02:41] <bad at
vijya> yeah
<bad at
vijya> yeahL172[10:02:56] <stephan48> Inari: 6Gbit is
what most sites say
L173[10:03:12] <Inari> Lets murder whoever
invented this Gbit crap
L174[10:03:14] <stephan48> which would be
about 750MB/s
L175[10:03:17] <bad at
vijya> how the fuck 2 disable journaling
<bad at
vijya> how the fuck 2 disable journalingL176[10:03:40] <Lizzy> use ext2
L177[10:03:45] <bad at
vijya> fair enough
<bad at
vijya> fair enoughL178[10:03:55] <AmandaC> Inari: Yeah,
let's murder people in the 60s who were inventing the first
networking protocols! :P
L179[10:03:57] <stephan48> you can disable
the journal on ext3/4 but why?
L180[10:04:02] <bad at
vijya> SSD
<bad at
vijya> SSDL181[10:04:05] <bad at
vijya> cheap SSD
<bad at
vijya> cheap SSDL182[10:04:06] <stephan48> good idea stop
this internet nonsense
L183[10:04:10] <Inari> AmandaC: :P We had
perfectly fine units
L184[10:04:28] <AmandaC> Inari: back then
computers hadn't even settled on 8bits to a byte, AIUI
L185[10:04:34] <bad at
vijya> don't wanna kill my shitty SSD with them write
cycles
<bad at
vijya> don't wanna kill my shitty SSD with them write
cyclesL186[10:04:47] <stephan48> remove it from
your computer then?
L187[10:05:04] <stephan48> tbh, i would
always leave it enabled. it will save your ass sooner or
later
L188[10:05:17] <bad at
vijya> you know what
<bad at
vijya> you know whatL189[10:05:22] <bad at
vijya> i feel like living life on the edge
<bad at
vijya> i feel like living life on the edgeL190[10:05:31] <bad at
vijya> btrfs time, just for the ememe B)
<bad at
vijya> btrfs time, just for the ememe B)L191[10:05:47] <stephan48> i recently
broke an btrfs beyond repair :D
L192[10:06:17] <Izaya> Fuck.
L193[10:06:21] <AmandaC> stephan48: is it
at "the kernel panics when trying to load it" levels,
though?
L194[10:06:36] <Inari> Guess I'll have to
buy a M.2 SSD thing
L195[10:06:42] <stephan48> oh right thats
the best stage for btrfs
L196[10:06:48] <stephan48> but no :D
L197[10:07:07] <stephan48> it can't parse
tree informations and i found no way of restoring it from backup
root nodes or whatever they use
L198[10:07:17] <stephan48> with some low
level tools i managed to get some data off but...
L199[10:07:23] <stephan48> no fun no
fun
L200[10:07:42] <stephan48> he fs choice
was forced on me by the router vendor throu(turris omnia)
L201[10:07:44] <Izaya> I've had my current
bike for 5 months and I've put 5000km on it. In 3 years when I'm on
my open license I'd have put 36000km on it at this rate.
L202[10:07:55] <Inari> Thos ecan actually
do like 3.5 GB/s
L203[10:08:00] <stephan48> and since then
i also do daily backups of my router :D
L204[10:08:16] <stephan48> yes but make
sure you are looking at NVMe/PCIe SSDs
L205[10:08:29] <bad at
vijya> but yeah
<bad at
vijya> but yeahL206[10:08:32] <Izaya> That'd be a grand
total of 84000km or so. I can almost feel the value decreasing
:D
L207[10:08:41] <stephan48> because M.2 can
also support an mSATA SSD which is basically just another connector
for well SATA
L208[10:08:51] <stephan48> and your board
supports that too
L209[10:08:52] <bad at
vijya> stephan48: so i put a cheap SSD in a Dell Latitude D620,
for context
<bad at
vijya> stephan48: so i put a cheap SSD in a Dell Latitude D620,
for contextL210[10:08:56] <Inari> Yeah
L211[10:09:11] <stephan48> also always
look on how the slot is connected to the
CPU/north/soundbridge
L212[10:09:20] <AmandaC> %8ball try and
unravel the mysteries some more?
L213[10:09:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L214[10:09:24] <bad at
vijya> i literally have no reasoning for it beside "lmao it
has a sim slot"
<bad at
vijya> i literally have no reasoning for it beside "lmao it
has a sim slot"L215[10:09:38] <stephan48> i seen some
connectex via PCIe x1 which shared the bus with something
L216[10:09:40] <stephan48> haha
L217[10:09:41] <bad at
vijya> and "lmao call me druaga1"
<bad at
vijya> and "lmao call me druaga1"L218[10:10:01] <stephan48> need to go now
:/ head into the damn city with 30+°C weather
L219[10:10:05] <bad at
vijya> f
<bad at
vijya> fL220[10:10:22] <bad at
vijya> i still love how i have an SSD in a potato
<bad at
vijya> i still love how i have an SSD in a potatoL221[10:10:29] <bad at
vijya> i could have put an SSD in a good computer
<bad at
vijya> i could have put an SSD in a good computerL222[10:10:33] ⇦
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L223[10:10:34] <AmandaC> %choose unravel
the mysteries or play with nix some more
L224[10:10:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You
*could* do "play with nix some more", I guess.
L225[10:10:49] <bad at
vijya> since i also ended up recieving a Toshiba Satellite
L745
<bad at
vijya> since i also ended up recieving a Toshiba Satellite
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L227[10:11:03] <bad at
vijya> with the i3-2330M
<bad at
vijya> with the i3-2330ML228[10:11:18] <bad at
vijya> i wanted to see if it would take to an i5-560M tbh
<bad at
vijya> i wanted to see if it would take to an i5-560M tbhL229[10:14:52] <Izaya> AC: consider the
following
L230[10:15:02] <Izaya> I've finally got
the processor for my next fun project
L231[10:15:57] <Izaya> A Core 2 Quad, 12GB
of DDR2, a 3-channel Gigabyte motherboard, an 8800GTX, a 120GB SSD
and a 500GB SSD
L232[10:16:08] <Izaya> For the ultimate
haiku machine :D
L233[10:16:28] <bad at
vijya> so
<bad at
vijya> soL234[10:16:32]
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L235[10:16:41] <bad at
vijya> Izaya: which C2Q?
<bad at
vijya> Izaya: which C2Q?L236[10:16:49] <bad at
vijya> also i can't fucking install deebeen
<bad at
vijya> also i can't fucking install deebeenL237[10:16:50] <bad at
vijya> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
<bad at
vijya> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL238[10:17:01] <bad at
vijya> i can't install arch either because >core duo
<bad at
vijya> i can't install arch either because >core duoL239[10:17:05] <Izaya> Not 100% I haven't
pulled it yet
L240[10:17:14] <Izaya> It's in a 2008 Mac
Pro
L241[10:17:33] <Izaya> I have two of them
pending me taking them out
L242[10:17:55] <Izaya> But I needed to get
the tool to do that
L243[10:17:59] <Izaya> Which is in this
case
L244[10:18:09] <bad at
vijya> m a c p r o
<bad at
vijya> m a c p r oL245[10:18:27] <bad at
vijya> anyways
<bad at
vijya> anywaysL246[10:18:31] <bad at
vijya> i might have to install ubuntu
<bad at
vijya> i might have to install ubuntuL247[10:18:31] <Izaya> two extender bars
and an allen key fitting on a ratchet
L248[10:18:35] <bad at
vijya> but jokes on them
<bad at
vijya> but jokes on themL249[10:18:44] <bad at
vijya> i'm installing the "server" version or
whatever
<bad at
vijya> i'm installing the "server" version or
whateverL250[10:18:52] <Izaya> Because the middle
allen key is buried about 30cm inside the heatsinks
L251[10:19:41] <bad at
vijya> oh
<bad at
vijya> ohL252[10:19:44] <bad at
vijya> ***oh***
<bad at
vijya> ***oh***L253[10:19:53] <bad at
vijya> there are no 32-bit ISOs of the latest ubuntu
<bad at
vijya> there are no 32-bit ISOs of the latest ubuntuL254[10:20:03] <Izaya> Install
debian
L255[10:20:11] <bad at
vijya> debian wants the CD drive
<bad at
vijya> debian wants the CD driveL256[10:20:17] <bad at
vijya> even though i'm installing it off of USB
<bad at
vijya> even though i'm installing it off of USBL257[10:20:35] <Izaya> Is this like ppc32
or something?
L258[10:20:41] <bad at
vijya> no
<bad at
vijya> noL259[10:20:47] <bad at
vijya> intel core duo
<bad at
vijya> intel core duoL260[10:20:55] <bad at
vijya> centrino duo
<bad at
vijya> centrino duoL261[10:20:58] <bad at
vijya> whatever
<bad at
vijya> whateverL262[10:21:12] <Izaya> Dunno what you're
on about then
L263[10:21:16] <bad at
vijya> good old 667MHz FSB
<bad at
vijya> good old 667MHz FSBL264[10:21:23] <Izaya> Installs from USB
fine on x86
L265[10:21:29] <Izaya> Even USB3
chipsets
L266[10:21:32] <bad at
vijya> i seriously don't know what's going on
<bad at
vijya> i seriously don't know what's going onL267[10:21:35] <bad at
vijya> finna try it again
<bad at
vijya> finna try it againL268[10:22:11] <Izaya> Also mint does
32bit still
L269[10:22:28] <bad at
vijya> oh, fair
<bad at
vijya> oh, fairL270[10:22:42] <bad at
vijya> but
<bad at
vijya> butL271[10:22:50] <bad at
vijya> i want that cli hacker feel when i start up the pc
<bad at
vijya> i want that cli hacker feel when i start up the pcL272[10:22:52] <bad at
vijya> or ya know
<bad at
vijya> or ya knowL273[10:23:00] <bad at
vijya> whenever i don't need a GUI
<bad at
vijya> whenever i don't need a GUIL274[10:23:03] <Izaya> systemctl disable
lightdm
L275[10:23:13] <Izaya> or is it sddm
L276[10:23:16] <Izaya> fuck knows
L277[10:23:34] <bad at
vijya> fair but--OH YEAH
<bad at
vijya> fair but--OH YEAHL278[10:23:38] <bad at
vijya> fuck i guess that will work
<bad at
vijya> fuck i guess that will workL279[10:23:43] <bad at
vijya> and actually come with fucking drivers
<bad at
vijya> and actually come with fucking driversL280[10:23:54] <bad at
vijya> fuckin iwlwifi
<bad at
vijya> fuckin iwlwifiL281[10:24:04] <Izaya> oh you didn't have
the firmware
L282[10:24:13] <Izaya> Just plug it into
ethernet to download the firmware
L283[10:24:27] <Izaya> literal
nonissue
L284[10:24:36] <Izaya> Unless you have no
ethernet
L285[10:24:44] <Izaya> In which case the
laptop goes in the trash
L286[10:25:22] <bad at
vijya> nah, that didn't happen 1 out of 3 times
<bad at
vijya> nah, that didn't happen 1 out of 3 timesL287[10:25:32] <bad at
vijya> i just need to throw my USB stick on there at the right
time
<bad at
vijya> i just need to throw my USB stick on there at the right
timeL288[10:26:39] <bad at
vijya> so
<bad at
vijya> soL289[10:26:44] <bad at
vijya> like you said, literally a nonissue
<bad at
vijya> like you said, literally a nonissueL290[10:27:01] <Izaya> :D
L291[10:27:07] *
Izaya stares at Skye
L292[10:27:17] <bad at
vijya> i'm just gonna throw mint 19.1 xfce on it
<bad at
vijya> i'm just gonna throw mint 19.1 xfce on itL293[10:27:23] <bad at
vijya> so when i do use the GUI, it doesn't eat ass
<bad at
vijya> so when i do use the GUI, it doesn't eat assL294[10:27:52] <bad at
vijya> while i do have that beefy quadro
<bad at
vijya> while i do have that beefy quadroL295[10:28:03] <bad at
vijya> i don't have much dedodated wam
<bad at
vijya> i don't have much dedodated wamL296[10:28:16] <bad at
vijya> only 3GB
<bad at
vijya> only 3GBL297[10:29:22] <Izaya> plenty for
literally anything except a web browser
L298[10:29:27] <bad at
vijya> got that 90nm card B)
<bad at
vijya> got that 90nm card B)L299[10:29:37] <bad at
vijya> Izaya: and cinnamon
<bad at
vijya> Izaya: and cinnamonL300[10:29:51] <Izaya> Haven't used
it
L301[10:30:02] <bad at
vijya> i like cinnamon but it eats dedodated wam
<bad at
vijya> i like cinnamon but it eats dedodated wamL302[10:30:11] <Izaya> I like the
notification daemon though
L303[10:30:12] <bad at
vijya> oh fuck
<bad at
vijya> oh fuckL304[10:30:21] <bad at
vijya> >64MB of vram on the quadro
<bad at
vijya> >64MB of vram on the quadroL305[10:30:22] <Izaya> Much nicer to have
a notification centre
L306[10:30:29] <Izaya> Phones got that
right
L307[10:30:37] <bad at
vijya> 6 4 m b
<bad at
vijya> 6 4 m bL308[10:30:43] <bad at
vijya> it's enough to play hl2
<bad at
vijya> it's enough to play hl2L309[10:31:00] <bad at
vijya> barely
<bad at
vijya> barelyL310[10:31:15] <Izaya> >current haiku
box has 4
L311[10:31:22] <Izaya> MB VRAM
L312[10:31:24] <bad at
vijya> b e t
<bad at
vijya> b e tL313[10:31:37] <bad at
vijya> i have a TNT2 somewhere
<bad at
vijya> i have a TNT2 somewhereL314[10:31:41] <bad at
vijya> actually i have two TNT2s
<bad at
vijya> actually i have two TNT2sL315[10:31:42] <Izaya> Not even enough to
start up in 1280x1024x24 mode
L316[10:31:46] <bad at
vijya> but no desktops to use them in
<bad at
vijya> but no desktops to use them inL317[10:32:17] <bad at
vijya> also this dell literally has a higher resolution panel
than my current computer
<bad at
vijya> also this dell literally has a higher resolution panel
than my current computerL318[10:32:18] <Izaya> Gotta start up in
1280x1024x16 and set the depth once the GPU is init'd
properly
L319[10:32:36] <bad at
vijya> fuckin
<bad at
vijya> fuckinL320[10:32:44] <bad at
vijya> 1440x900 vs 1366x768
<bad at
vijya> 1440x900 vs 1366x768L321[10:33:08] <Izaya> mfw
L322[10:33:29] <Izaya> 1600x900 laptop,
1680x1050 + 2x 1440x900 desktop
L323[10:33:36] <bad at
vijya> 16:9 is trash
<bad at
vijya> 16:9 is trashL324[10:33:40] <bad at
vijya> 16:10 is godtier
<bad at
vijya> 16:10 is godtierL325[10:33:42] <Izaya> I agree
L326[10:33:56] <Izaya> Tfw no 1920x1200
19" panels
L327[10:34:02] <bad at
vijya> my old toshiba has a 1280x800 panel
<bad at
vijya> my old toshiba has a 1280x800 panelL328[10:34:17] <bad at
vijya> my good old satelite L305D
<bad at
vijya> my good old satelite L305DL329[10:34:18] <bad at
vijya> <3
<bad at
vijya> <3L330[10:34:33] <bad at
vijya> flashrom won't detect the fucking ROM chip </3
<bad at
vijya> flashrom won't detect the fucking ROM chip </3L331[10:35:01] <bad at
vijya> tbh i need to pop it open and find the chip myself
<bad at
vijya> tbh i need to pop it open and find the chip myselfL332[10:35:03] <Izaya> My mum had a
satellite before her thinkpad
L333[10:35:20] <bad at
vijya> my old satellite served me well
<bad at
vijya> my old satellite served me wellL334[10:35:22] *
Skye is confused
L335[10:35:24] <Izaya> 19" 1440x900
display, core 2 duo, gt230 1GB
L336[10:35:28] <bad at
vijya> 2007-2019
<bad at
vijya> 2007-2019L337[10:35:29] <bad at
vijya> oh shit
<bad at
vijya> oh shitL338[10:35:32] <bad at
vijya> mine was
<bad at
vijya> mine wasL339[10:35:49] <bad at
vijya> 15.4" 1280x800, Turion 64 X2 RM-70, Radeon HD
3100
<bad at
vijya> 15.4" 1280x800, Turion 64 X2 RM-70, Radeon HD
3100L340[10:37:20] <bad at
vijya> i guess i'll pop it open while i'm waiting for the disk
image to write
<bad at
vijya> i guess i'll pop it open while i'm waiting for the disk
image to writeL341[10:40:07] ⇦
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L344[10:55:29] <bauen1> > ssd is not so
important other than copying lots of files or playing games
L345[10:55:47] <bauen1> well, windows
would like a word with you, boot time from harddrives is just
_bad_
L346[10:55:57] <Inari> I mean
L347[10:56:04] <Inari> I'd honestly be
fine with 5 minutes boot time
L348[10:56:05] <Inari> %shrug
L349[10:56:05] <MichiBot> Inari: No you
shrug!
L350[10:56:22] <bad at
vijya> ah i found the real name of the laptop
<bad at
vijya> ah i found the real name of the laptopL351[10:56:23] <bauen1> we're talking
about more than 5 minutes
L352[10:56:31] <Inari> Um
L353[10:56:37] <Inari> My HDD windows
boots in like 10 seconds max
L354[10:56:38] <bad at
vijya> the "HannStar J MV-4"
<bad at
vijya> the "HannStar J MV-4"L355[10:57:10] <Lizzy> "why isn't my
keyboard typing on my computer" *looks over to the screen that
her raspberry pi is connected to* "oh..."
L356[10:57:10] <bauen1> well i'm talking
about my schools cheap laptopts
L357[10:57:23] <Inari> I mean, if yotu
have a crappy HDD, sure
L358[10:57:42] <bauen1> if you're lucky,
boot time is something like 10-20 seconds to the login screen
L359[10:57:53] <bauen1> but after you
login it will be atleast 60s until you can open a usb stick
L360[10:58:10] <bauen1> and only if
windows doesn't decide it's time for updates
L361[10:58:11] <Inari> You sure the HDD is
the issue there?
L362[10:59:08] <bauen1> well, crappy cpu
and crappy ram don't help but (in my experience) windows usually
chokes on IO
L363[10:59:34] <Inari> REminds me
L364[10:59:40] <Izaya> given how much of a
difference sticking an SSD in the C2D machines at work made, it's
definitely a contributing factor
L365[10:59:45] <Inari> I wanted to go and
figure out why my app uses 25% CPU
L366[11:00:01] <Inari> A crash to desktop
machine?
L367[11:00:24] <Izaya> Core 2 Duo
L368[11:00:48] <bauen1> oh core 2 duo is
nice, i still have an old macbook that has one lol
L369[11:01:04] <bauen1> it's possible to
play minecraft, modded even
L370[11:01:06] <Izaya> they're fine
L371[11:01:16] <Izaya> Not great but
passable
L372[11:01:33] <Izaya> Unless you're on
Windows 10 where it'll use all the CPU time for you :D
L373[11:02:36] <Izaya> https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/015/813/358/original/05514ed191672c26.jpeg
L374[11:10:24] <bad at
vijya> turion 64 x2 tho
<bad at
vijya> turion 64 x2 thoL375[11:12:58] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL376[11:12:58] <MichiBot> You drink a
molten salmon potion (New!). When you drink the last drop, a bucket
of water materializes above your head and dumps it contents over
you, then vanishes. The water does not.
L377[11:13:23] <Forecaster>
at least the bucket didn't contain molten salmon
<Forecaster>
at least the bucket didn't contain molten salmonL378[11:13:52] <Ariri>
yikes
<Ariri>
yikesL379[11:14:10] <ayangd>
Imagine the water is *sea water*
<ayangd>
Imagine the water is *sea water*L380[11:14:25] <Forecaster>
I would be really salty
<Forecaster>
I would be really saltyL381[11:14:38] <Ariri>
%shell
<Ariri>
%shellL382[11:14:38] *
MichiBot loads A Magic ticket for 50% off Inari's 1-900 number!
(25%) into a shell and fires it. It strikes Tahg. They take 35
damage (33+2). payonel and CompanionCube stood too close and take
18 (16+2) and 19 (17+2) damage respectively.
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L384[11:15:21] <Ariri> Tell
me Tahg isnt a Klingon reference
<Ariri> Tell
me Tahg isnt a Klingon referenceL385[11:15:44] <Forecaster>
you'll have to ask him I guess
<Forecaster>
you'll have to ask him I guessL386[11:15:45] <Lizzy> They're one of the
people in this irc channel
L387[11:16:04] <Ariri> i
know but it sounds like klingon
<Ariri> i
know but it sounds like klingonL388[11:16:29] <Ariri>
pretty sure its the equivalent of a boar or some strong small
animal
<Ariri>
pretty sure its the equivalent of a boar or some strong small
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L390[11:18:33] *
AmandaC beams a mutable salmon potion in front of Inari,
observes
L391[11:20:11] <Forecaster>
%sip ^
<Forecaster>
%sip ^L392[11:20:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns
into a otter boy.
L393[11:20:17] <Forecaster>
huh
<Forecaster>
huhL394[11:20:37] <Forecaster>
well the prefix on that is wrong
<Forecaster>
well the prefix on that is wrongL395[11:20:42] <Forecaster>
is my takeaway from that
<Forecaster>
is my takeaway from thatL396[11:20:46] <Ariri>
*Otter boy has joined #oc*
<Ariri>
*Otter boy has joined #oc*L397[11:21:17] <Forecaster>
I'm otterly appalled by the prefix
<Forecaster>
I'm otterly appalled by the prefixL398[11:21:28] <Ariri>
lol
<Ariri>
lolL399[11:21:55] <Lizzy> can someone with a
UK keyboard post the pound (money) sign into the chat? This
keyboard doesn't have one cause it's a US layout
L400[11:22:10] <Ariri>
£
<Ariri>
£L401[11:22:13] <Lizzy> thaanks
L402[11:22:17] <AmandaC> huh, that's
another thing I need to fix
L403[11:22:23] *
AmandaC goes to figure out how to enable the compose
key
L404[11:22:35] <Ariri> cant
u change the keyboard or somethin
<Ariri> cant
u change the keyboard or somethinL405[11:22:38] <Forecaster>
I don't have a UK keyboard but I have a pound symbol on it :P
<Forecaster>
I don't have a UK keyboard but I have a pound symbol on it :PL406[11:22:38] <Ariri> or
make it a prefix
<Ariri> or
make it a prefixL407[11:23:08] <Lizzy> I could, but i'm
not sure how to get that to apply in X11 without restarting
it
L408[11:23:11] <Ariri> like
u type in epound and itll change to £ thats what i do for emojis
and stuff
<Ariri> like
u type in epound and itll change to £ thats what i do for emojis
and stuffL409[11:24:04] <Skye> %sip random
L410[11:24:04] <MichiBot> You drink a
slimy purple potion (New!). Skye feels like a champion!
L411[11:24:16] <bauen1> Lizzy: 'xinput' is
your friend
L412[11:24:34] <Ariri>
https://www.linux.com/news/creating-custom-keyboard-layouts-x11-using-xkb
found thi sbut not sure, Lizzy
<Ariri>
https://www.linux.com/news/creating-custom-keyboard-layouts-x11-using-xkb
found thi sbut not sure, LizzyL413[11:24:48]
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L414[11:24:54] <Lizzy> hmm, i'll look into
both of those once i've finished this blog post
L415[11:26:10] <bauen1> there's also this
weirdness of linux not applying my xinput filters on resume
._.
L416[11:26:12] <AmandaC> Lizzy: compose
key? `setxkbmap -option compose:menu`
L417[11:26:21] <bauen1> which means i
can't play minecraft properly
L418[11:26:37] <bauen1> actually i'll try
to get my external display to work
L419[11:26:40] <Lizzy> AmandaC, ?
L420[11:27:15] <AmandaC> Lizzy: I wasn't
lear on what you were talking about not being sure how to apply
without a x restart
L421[11:27:27] <AmandaC>
s/lear/clear/
L422[11:27:27] <Lizzy> ah
L423[11:27:27] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
Lizzy: I wasn't clear on what you were talking about not being sure
how to apply without a x restart
L424[11:27:58] <Lizzy> but which key does
that add the "compose" key to?
L425[11:28:08] <AmandaC> Lizzy: the
"menu" key
L426[11:28:13] <Lizzy> ah
L427[11:28:18] <AmandaC> which is the one
that normally simulates a right-click
L428[11:28:32] <AmandaC> between right alt
and right control, at least on my laptop
L429[11:28:37] <Lizzy> might do that, i
don't use the menu key all that often
L430[11:32:45] <AmandaC> I've had it as a
compose key for so long I almost didn't remember what it even
does
L431[11:38:00] <payonel> bauen1: still
curious about openos' vt100 lib? (i'm reading my chat log and
catching up) also you said "window.output_buffer is a complex
way of holding a temporary string while printing" yes it is,
and i dislike it. but memory! it saved a good bit of memory and i
didn't find a cheaper way
L432[11:39:04] <payonel> bauen1: also i
see your vt100 png, is that your own oc os?
L433[11:39:21] <bauen1> yes
L434[11:39:36] <bauen1> it now also has
support for 24-bit true color ansi codes \o/
L435[11:41:39] <payonel> bauen1: (still
catching up) the \27[Line;Column[Hf] defaults to 1? that's good
feedback, thanks!
L436[11:42:27] <payonel> ok i'm caught
up
L437[11:42:33] *
payonel waves to current chat
L438[11:42:40] <bauen1> welcome back
L439[11:42:56] <AmandaC> payonel: WELCOME!
To the LAND OF TOMORROW~~
L440[11:43:03] <payonel> tomorrow!?
L441[11:43:05] <payonel> crap i went too
far
L442[11:43:07] <AmandaC> ( or was it
world? )
L443[11:45:33] <Vexatos> meanwhile
friendly PSA that the selene language support in
lua-language-server is _still working_ for whatever reason
L444[11:45:46] <Vexatos> it's been two
days and it's still hilarious to me
L445[11:46:28] <Forecaster>
it was world
<Forecaster>
it was worldL446[11:46:59] <Vexatos> it was actually
galactic municipal district
L447[11:47:29] <Forecaster>
pretty sure that's not the quote :P
<Forecaster>
pretty sure that's not the quote :PL448[11:49:32] <bauen1> regarding lua
optimisation, if i return a lambda from a function, will the local
values that aren't used in the lambda be cleaned up ?
L449[11:49:46] <Vexatos> >lua
L450[11:49:49] <Vexatos> >lambda
L451[11:49:52] <Vexatos> what did I
miss
L452[11:50:10] <bauen1> some languages
call anonymous functions lambdas
L453[11:50:13] <bauen1> and it's shorter
to write
L454[11:50:19] <Vexatos> D:
L455[11:50:34] <Vexatos> Selene adds
lambda notation in Lua :U
L456[11:50:46] <bauen1> but lua 5.4 is
getting annotations (probably) including something called toclose /
scoped
L457[11:52:19] <bauen1> you can't use λ as
a function name in lua :(
L458[11:54:00] <bauen1> actually stuff
does get collected, nice
L459[11:54:21] <Vexatos> selene adds the
-> lambda notation support D:
L460[11:54:29] <Vexatos> and the =>
which scala uses
L461[11:57:56] <bauen1> from the lua
manual: "Names (also called identifiers) in Lua can be any
string of letters, digits, and underscores, not beginning with a
digit and not being a reserved word. Identifiers are used to name
variables, table fields, and labels. "
L462[11:58:32] <AmandaC> lua doesn't
consider unicode glyph assignment.
L463[11:58:56] <bauen1> that's a shame
really
L464[11:59:42] <AmandaC> makes sense in a
"compact language you can embed anywhere" contexxt
L465[12:00:27] <payonel> lua should have
used -> as a function operator ages ago though
L466[12:00:47] <payonel> and, they should
get rid of everything that is does tostring coersion
L467[12:00:57] <payonel> (unless you call
tostring)
L468[12:02:47] <AmandaC> %choose program
or games
L469[12:02:48] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I sense
some "games" in your future!
L470[12:02:53] <AmandaC> Sounds good
L471[12:07:35] <Forecaster>
how strange...
<Forecaster>
how strange...L472[12:07:47] <Forecaster>
the prefix for otter is "An"
<Forecaster>
the prefix for otter is "An"L473[12:07:50] <Forecaster>
oO
<Forecaster>
oOL474[12:16:35] <bad at
vijya> >mint on ssd
<bad at
vijya> >mint on ssdL475[12:16:42] <bad at
vijya> >there is no boot screen
<bad at
vijya> >there is no boot screenL476[12:16:46] <bad at
vijya> >only mint
<bad at
vijya> >only mintL477[12:24:59] <Lizzy> owo what's this
https://lizzian.uk/2019/06/20/109/ :P
L478[12:25:46] <Vexatos> payonel, selene
has -> function operator just use selene :^)
L479[12:25:59] <payonel> :)
L480[12:26:40] <Bob> Lizzy
i will soon celebrate my PC's 10th birthday, ill probably change
only when this one explodes
<Bob> Lizzy
i will soon celebrate my PC's 10th birthday, ill probably change
only when this one explodesL481[12:27:32] <Vexatos> Lizzy, [laughs in
used 2012 thinkpad T430]
L482[12:27:55] <Bob> 2012
yes
<Bob> 2012
yesL483[12:27:57] <Vexatos> Reminds me that I
should maybe consider checking the thermal paste on mine
L484[12:28:04] <Bob>
same
<Bob>
sameL485[12:28:11] <Bob> my CPU
goes 100°C now frequently
<Bob> my CPU
goes 100°C now frequentlyL486[12:28:13] <Lizzy> Thinkpads don't
really appeal to me all that much
L487[12:28:15] <Vexatos> mine idles at
40
L488[12:28:17] <Bob> it
could have dried off and fallen off as a big chunk
<Bob> it
could have dried off and fallen off as a big chunkL489[12:28:31] <Vexatos> Lizzy, can
confirm they have the best keyboard
L490[12:28:33] <Bob> real
gamer pc here : GTX 650 and i3
<Bob> real
gamer pc here : GTX 650 and i3L491[12:28:42] <Vexatos> And mouse buttons
above the trackpad as well as below is also very nice
L492[12:28:46] <Vexatos> and a middle
click button D:
L493[12:28:52] <payonel> Lizzy: ! congrats
:)
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L495[12:30:02] <Vexatos> >1k quid
L496[12:30:09] <Vexatos> >costs almost
as much as my dream laptop
L497[12:30:23] <Lizzy> lol
L498[12:30:47] <Lizzy> I was originally
looking at the Dell XPS 13/15 which would have been about
1.2-1.5k
L499[12:31:10] <Vexatos> a fully specced
out brand new thinkpad T480 would be like €1200 q-q
L500[12:31:38] <Vexatos> which is like
£1050
L501[12:45:26] <Inari> Still cheaper than
a good chair
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L505[12:48:22] <Izaya> My good chair was
free
L506[12:48:26] <Izaya> And stolen
L507[12:48:29] *
Izaya coughs
L508[12:48:47] <Lizzy> don't you mean
semi-permenant borrowing?
L509[12:48:58] <Lizzy> :P
L510[12:49:04] <Izaya> :p
L511[12:49:14] <bad at
vijya> but yeah
<bad at
vijya> but yeahL512[12:49:18] <bad at
vijya> icewm is comfy
<bad at
vijya> icewm is comfyL513[12:49:35] <Forecaster>
some of it's atom will return to the owners atoms
*eventually*
<Forecaster>
some of it's atom will return to the owners atoms
*eventually*L514[12:49:47] <Izaya> Exactly!
L515[12:49:48] <Forecaster>
some of it's atoms will return to some of the owners atoms
*eventually* [Edited]
<Forecaster>
some of it's atoms will return to some of the owners atoms
*eventually* [Edited]L516[12:51:31] <Inari> When the passowrd
requirements only allow letters and numbers :<
L517[12:52:24] <Forecaster>
p455w0rd
<Forecaster>
p455w0rdL518[12:52:34] <bad at
vijya> i can't install discord on my PC
<bad at
vijya> i can't install discord on my PCL519[12:52:34] <bad at
vijya> B)
<bad at
vijya> B)L520[12:52:41] <Inari> Why not?
L521[12:53:05] <bad at
vijya> 32-bit B)
<bad at
vijya> 32-bit B)L522[12:53:28] <Izaya> just run it in your
browser it's running in a browser when it's installed anyway
L523[12:53:37] <Vexatos> @bad at vijya
reminder to install updates
L524[12:53:38] <bad at
vijya> i mean pretty much
<bad at
vijya> i mean pretty muchL525[12:53:49] <Vexatos> oh right michibot
is bad at free spaces
L526[12:53:54] <bad at
vijya> yea i gotta install updates but
<bad at
vijya> yea i gotta install updates butL527[12:53:55] <Vexatos> or Corded
L528[12:53:59] <Vexatos> or whoever does
it these days
L529[12:54:10] <Forecaster>
@"name with spaces"
<Forecaster>
@"name with spaces"L530[12:54:27] <bad at
vijya> at least i removed xfce for a better desktop enviroment
B)
<bad at
vijya> at least i removed xfce for a better desktop enviroment
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L532[12:54:40] <bad at
vijya> ya know
<bad at
vijya> ya knowL533[12:54:44] <Vexatos> @"name with
spaces"
L534[12:54:47] <name with
spaces> wow it works
<name with
spaces> wow it worksL535[12:54:49] <name with
spaces> nice
<name with
spaces> niceL536[12:54:59] <bad at
vijya> for when i use discord or sublime
<bad at
vijya> for when i use discord or sublimeL537[12:56:09] <Izaya> >better desktop
environment
L538[12:56:12] <Izaya> Haiku?
L539[12:56:20] <Vexatos> cinnamon is
pretty good these days tbh
L540[12:56:33] <bad at
vijya> cinnamon is 2 resource heavy
<bad at
vijya> cinnamon is 2 resource heavyL541[12:57:03] <Izaya> I haven't used it
much but I don't mind it
L542[12:57:04] <Vexatos> it uses like half
on 19.1 compared to what it used to
L543[12:57:19] <Vexatos> 230MB right now
on three monitors
L544[12:57:19] <Izaya> Probably prefer it
to KDE
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L546[12:57:34] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
shit
L547[12:57:34] <Izaya> Which annoys me
because Qt > GTK but whatever
L548[12:57:47] <AdorableCatgirl> cinnamon
isn't as memory hungry anymore?
L549[12:57:50] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
well
L550[12:58:18] <AdorableCatgirl> i only
installed mint because it was the only distro w/ a 32-bit install i
could grab and get that would actually fucking install
L551[12:58:20] <Vexatos> apparently they
fixed some memory not-quite-leak they found
L552[12:58:38] <AdorableCatgirl> debian
refused to install
L553[12:58:39] <AdorableCatgirl> for
L554[12:58:40] <Vexatos> and also
optimized the hell out of the main desktop
L555[12:58:42] <AdorableCatgirl> whatever
reason
L556[12:58:53] <Vexatos> I mean mint is
very nice
L557[12:58:59] <Vexatos> best distro
ofc
L558[12:58:59] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/o/1561053374838.png
L559[12:59:06] <AdorableCatgirl> i use
arch linux btw
L560[12:59:12] <Izaya> Remember
L561[12:59:16] <AdorableCatgirl> no
russian
L562[12:59:19] <Izaya> My distro > your
distro
L563[12:59:26] <Izaya> No exceptions
L564[12:59:27] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L565[12:59:32] <AdorableCatgirl>
okay
L566[12:59:46] <Forecaster>
my OS > your OS
<Forecaster>
my OS > your OSL567[12:59:47] <AdorableCatgirl> my OS in
OC is gonna be great B)
L568[13:00:07] <Izaya> My bike > your
bike
L569[13:00:15] <AdorableCatgirl> my >
your
L570[13:00:15] <Vexatos> I'll have you
know
L571[13:00:19] <Forecaster>
this is true, because I don't have a bike
<Forecaster>
this is true, because I don't have a bikeL572[13:00:28] <Skye> me > everyone
else
L573[13:00:44] <Izaya> Skye++
L574[13:00:45] <MichiBot> Izaya: skyem123
now has 9223372036854779997 points
L575[13:00:46] <AdorableCatgirl> my bike
is a bike i found at goodwill that i powered with a weedeater
engine
L576[13:00:47] <Forecaster>
MichiBot > everyone
<Forecaster>
MichiBot > everyoneL577[13:01:03] <Skye> how do I have that
many points
L578[13:01:08] <Vexatos> we have this 2
million euro machine in our lab used for high-precision molecular
structure elucidation, it is cooled with liquid helium which is
cooled by liquid nitrogen
L579[13:01:09] <Skye> did I keep them
after the overflow wars
L580[13:01:13] <Vexatos> and it's
connected to a PC running solaris
L581[13:01:28] <Vexatos> so whatever the
case may be
L582[13:01:31] <Vexatos> your argument is
invalid
L583[13:01:34] <Izaya> 10 or 11?
L584[13:01:42] <Vexatos> I have a 2
million euro device connected to a solaris PC, therefore I win
every argument
L585[13:01:48] <Izaya> What if solaris is
my OS :^)?
L586[13:02:27] <AdorableCatgirl>
GCONF2GCONF2GCONF2
L587[13:02:44] <AdorableCatgirl> apt
broke
L588[13:02:48] <AdorableCatgirl> :(
L589[13:02:50] <Vexatos> also this brand
new boy https://www.ia.uni-bremen.de/bilder/neo1.jpg
L590[13:02:53] <Vexatos> installed this
december
L591[13:03:01] <Vexatos> meaning the PC is
probably already running windows 7
L592[13:03:33] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl:
mine is a glorious piece of japanese precision engineering, two
cylinders with a total displacement of 248cc, revving out at 15kRPM
and providing 36bhp at peak, with a top speed of 160km/h, all while
weighing less than 150kg
L593[13:03:43] <AdorableCatgirl> ah
L594[13:03:44] <Izaya> Ergo, my bike >
your bike
L595[13:03:45] <AdorableCatgirl> it's a
rice rocket
L596[13:04:10] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L597[13:04:13] <AdorableCatgirl> mint shit
itself
L598[13:04:14] <AdorableCatgirl> brb
L599[13:04:29] <Izaya> Vexatos: nice bar
fridge
L600[13:04:52] <Vexatos> Izaya, that's the
box for the PC
L601[13:04:57] <Vexatos> it's a magnetic
field barrier
L602[13:05:01] <Vexatos> a.k.a. steel
box
L603[13:05:22] <Vexatos> anything
electronic not in that box and within 5m of that thing is basically
instantly dead
L604[13:05:23] <AdorableCatgirl> "ay
run `apt --fix-broken install`"
L605[13:05:45] <AdorableCatgirl> "wtf
are you talking about `apt --fix-broken install`"
L606[13:05:48] <AdorableCatgirl> i love
apt
L607[13:06:00] <Forecaster>
Vexatos: what is it?
<Forecaster>
Vexatos: what is it?L608[13:06:06] <Vexatos> an NMR
spectrometer
L609[13:06:12] <Vexatos> costs probably
around 2 million too
L610[13:06:14] <Vexatos> or slightly
more
L611[13:06:14] <Forecaster>
what is it?
<Forecaster>
what is it?L612[13:06:17] <Skye> Izaya, didn't you
break it
L613[13:06:17] <Vexatos> an NMR
spectrometer
L614[13:06:19] <Vexatos> costs probably
around 2 million too
L615[13:06:20] <Vexatos> or slightly
more
L616[13:06:30] <Izaya> Skye: no?
L617[13:06:33] <Forecaster>
that tells me nothing
<Forecaster>
that tells me nothingL618[13:06:34] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL619[13:06:38] <Izaya> Trying to figure
out how to get the spares bike home
L620[13:06:41] <Forecaster>
so what is it?
<Forecaster>
so what is it?L621[13:06:46] <Izaya> But the engine in
that is cooked
L622[13:07:39] <Vexatos> @Forecaster
14-tesla superconducting magnet cooled by liquid helium used to
exploit QUANTUM MECHANICSâ„¢ to tell you what the hell is in whatever
solution you decide to put inside of it
L623[13:07:41] <AdorableCatgirl> anti mass
spectrometer?
L624[13:07:57] <AdorableCatgirl> also mint
royally fucked itself
L625[13:07:58] <Vexatos> and yes if you
put your finger in it it will explode
L626[13:08:01] <Forecaster>
neat
<Forecaster>
neatL627[13:08:09] <Forecaster>
less neat
<Forecaster>
less neatL628[13:08:12] <AdorableCatgirl>
sooo
L629[13:08:13] <Forecaster>
well, okay still neat
<Forecaster>
well, okay still neatL630[13:08:14] <AdorableCatgirl>
that's
L631[13:08:15] <AdorableCatgirl>
fine
L632[13:08:17] <Vexatos> you can't put
your finger in it
L633[13:08:23] <Forecaster>
aw
<Forecaster>
awL634[13:08:31] <Vexatos> but you can stack
coins near that machine
L635[13:08:33] <Vexatos>
horizontally
L636[13:08:38] <Vexatos> connected only
through the thin edge
L637[13:08:42] <Izaya> The finger or the
machine
L638[13:09:18] <Vexatos> the magnetic
field is so strong anything metal near it has to either weigh above
50kg or just not be there
L639[13:09:41] <Vexatos> no pacemakers
allowed in the room, and it's sealed by a 10cm steel door
L640[13:09:57] <Vexatos> it's about as
hightech as you can get
L641[13:10:03] <Vexatos> and I have used
it before it's really damn good :I
L642[13:10:57] <Skye> so if someone has a
pacemaker, are they just unable to get any qualification that
requries using that machine?
L643[13:11:04] <Izaya> So say you turned
it on and off really fast
L644[13:11:23] <Izaya> how fast would it
make a ball bearing go
L645[13:11:23] <Vexatos> Skye, yup
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L647[13:12:32] <Skye> so hold on
L648[13:13:50] <Skye> if someone has a
pacemaker they are losing out on a PhD or something
L649[13:14:25] <Forecaster>
there's probably other things you can do
<Forecaster>
there's probably other things you can doL650[13:14:48] <Izaya> Not like you
wouldn't have other options for pretty much any course, your
research just can't involve having your pacemaker ripped out of
your chest
L651[13:14:49] <Vexatos> yea like
L652[13:14:51] <Vexatos> not doing NMR
analysis
L653[13:15:01] <Vexatos> @Izaya, it's not
that large
L654[13:15:07] <Vexatos> it'd just get
fried
L655[13:15:33] <Vexatos> metal is fine,
electronics aren't
L656[13:17:27] <AmandaC> %8ball halucinate
some more about OP wolf
L657[13:17:27] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I don't
think that's a question...
L658[13:17:29] <AmandaC> %8ball halucinate
some more about OP wolf?
L659[13:17:29] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask
again later
L660[13:17:33] <AmandaC> bah
L661[13:29:45] <bauen1> payonel: the thing
about my vt100 implementation is: it's not any more cleanly written
then OpenOS (and some of the move cursor things probably don't work
quite right yet) https://termbin.com/l1vm
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L665[13:44:02] <baschdel> %tonkout
L666[13:44:02] <MichiBot> By my throth!
baschdel! You beat bauen1's previous record of 6 hours and 39
minutes (By 1 hour, 24 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
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L672[14:57:46] <Ariri> Does
anyone know anything about using OpenVPN on an rPi at home? Im
trying to make my own VPN to use for some internet access and to
keep my IP hidden on some Valve servers.
<Ariri> Does
anyone know anything about using OpenVPN on an rPi at home? Im
trying to make my own VPN to use for some internet access and to
keep my IP hidden on some Valve servers.L673[15:06:29] <Forecaster>
woo
<Forecaster>
wooL674[15:06:35] <Forecaster>
I'm a Post Commander
<Forecaster>
I'm a Post CommanderL675[15:06:37] <Forecaster>
I command the post
<Forecaster>
I command the postL676[15:06:58] <Forecaster>
only two more rank ups to go
<Forecaster>
only two more rank ups to goL677[15:08:52] <Vexatos> mailman!
L678[15:09:16] <Vexatos> now is the start
of your post-post-commander career
L679[15:10:44] <Forecaster>
I'm gonna be Post Commander next
<Forecaster>
I'm gonna be Post Commander nextL680[15:10:56] <Vexatos> oh so it's still
pre-post-commander
L681[15:11:09] <Forecaster>
I mean Post Captain
<Forecaster>
I mean Post CaptainL682[15:11:14] <Forecaster>
Post Captain next
<Forecaster>
Post Captain nextL683[15:11:21] <Forecaster>
then I'm abandoning the post career for Rear Admiral
<Forecaster>
then I'm abandoning the post career for Rear AdmiralL684[15:11:24] <Forecaster>
then I'm done
<Forecaster>
then I'm doneL685[15:11:29] <Vexatos> oh so the
post-post-commander is the pre-post-captain
L686[15:11:30] <Vexatos> I get it
L687[15:12:04] <Vexatos> and rear admiral
is admirable post-post rank rank
L688[15:12:26] <Vexatos> [note to self:
english language is very fun]
L689[15:13:25] <Forecaster>
gasp, it has quirks!
<Forecaster>
gasp, it has quirks!L690[15:13:30] <Forecaster>
no other language has quirks!
<Forecaster>
no other language has quirks!L691[15:13:59] <Vexatos> Finding good
German linguistic fun is actually rare nowadays
L692[15:14:14] <Vexatos> It's almost like
only poets before 1900 knew how to make funny jokes
L693[15:20:42] <Inari> Vexatos: Such
as?
L694[15:20:52] <Vexatos> you know
L695[15:20:57] <Vexatos> Functioning
German humour
L696[15:21:05] <Inari> Such as?
L697[15:21:10] <Forecaster>
I thought there was no such thing
<Forecaster>
I thought there was no such thingL698[15:22:15] <Vexatos> German humour
does actually exist according to legend
L699[15:22:30] <Vexatos> it's usually so
dry noone gets it
L700[15:22:36] <Vexatos> But the language
is particularly hard to work with
L701[15:22:58] <Vexatos> because making
puns is somewhat easy, but rhymes are hard
L702[15:23:23] <Vexatos> most poetic fun
that direction involes unreasonably long compound words
L703[15:23:28] <Vexatos> involves*
L704[15:23:58] <stephan48> german humor
isn't that a oxymoron for sarcasm?
L705[15:24:08] <Vexatos> no
L706[15:25:02] <Vexatos> good jokes are
told with a straight face and are good when nobody is laughing
because jokes that make one laugh are too cheap
L707[15:25:17] <Vexatos> jokes that make
you think "man that joke was smart" instead are real
jokes you know :^)
L708[15:25:58] <Vexatos> unless you are a
chemist, in which case you always try to find the most horrible
situational pun you can find
L709[15:26:35] <stephan48>
"Dihydrogenmonoxid is quite a dangerous thing. People die from
ingesting to much of it."
L710[15:26:51] <Vexatos> http://dhmo.org/
L711[15:27:18] <Vexatos> the website
contains most relevant information regarding the dangers, and safe
handling, of DHMO
L712[15:27:42] <Vexatos> oh nice it has an
add for a Klein bottle from kleinbottle.com, I own one of
those
L713[15:27:44] <stephan48> thank
you!
L714[15:27:46] <Vexatos> an ad* even
L715[15:28:13] <Forecaster>
with the Empire I'm an "Outsider"
<Forecaster>
with the Empire I'm an "Outsider"L716[15:28:19] <Forecaster>
the next rank up is "Serf"...
<Forecaster>
the next rank up is "Serf"...L717[15:28:25] <Forecaster>
the Empire seems nice...
<Forecaster>
the Empire seems nice...L718[15:28:48] <Forecaster>
the highest rank is "King"
<Forecaster>
the highest rank is "King"L719[15:28:50] <Vexatos> but is the empire
living off of drilling operations in deserts
L720[15:29:12] <Forecaster>
they probably have mining operations on desert planets? I
dunno
<Forecaster>
they probably have mining operations on desert planets? I
dunnoL721[15:37:58] <CompanionCube> https://i.imgur.com/Ws5vqY4.png apparently n-gate
uses some very cursed CSS for the font now
L722[15:38:15] <CompanionCube> and if you
have webfonts enabled it's even in comic sans or similar
L723[16:05:05] <AmandaC> CompanionCube:
have you heard the good news that is MIT License?
L724[16:05:31] <CompanionCube> what
L725[16:06:05] <AmandaC> "Some people
think the license is a relgion"
L726[16:06:17] <CompanionCube> oh i only
posted it as an example
L727[16:08:38] <Inari> I'm personally
rather fond of the WTFPL
L728[16:08:55] <AmandaC> has that been
tested in court yet, though?
L729[16:09:11] <Inari> Whats there to
test?
L730[16:12:50] <Inari> The only thing I'm
not too fond of on the WTFPL is the language :P
L731[16:22:37] <bauen1> @Airir I assume
you know about port forwarding and stuff ? What IP are you trying
to hide exactly ?
L732[16:22:42] <bauen1> %tonk
L733[16:22:43] <MichiBot> Willikers!
bauen1! You beat baschdel's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours,
38 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L734[16:22:44] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 2 hours, 38 minutes and 40 seconds! bauen1 also gained
0.00264 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L735[16:31:40] <Inari> https://tenor.com/zaA9.gif when the ASMR gets
me
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L739[16:47:10] <Forecaster>
better than selling them probably?
<Forecaster>
better than selling them probably?L740[17:00:57] ⇦
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L742[17:21:11] <Inari> @Forecaster Psh,
imperial slaves have signed up for it
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L744[17:25:10] <Forecaster>
How do you know they are imperial
<Forecaster>
How do you know they are imperialL745[17:26:35] <Inari> Didn't know there
are other kinds in E:D
L746[17:29:27] <Forecaster>
I dunno
<Forecaster>
I dunnoL747[17:29:38] <Forecaster>
I don't deal in slaves
<Forecaster>
I don't deal in slavesL748[17:31:19] <AmandaC> @Forecaster YOU
KILLED THEM!?
L749[17:31:47] <AmandaC> ( Idea: A station
you can take such goods to have them freed. )
L750[17:33:17] <Forecaster>
The game doesn't give you the option but I imagine they're just
released
<Forecaster>
The game doesn't give you the option but I imagine they're just
releasedL751[17:33:41] <AmandaC> "The cargo
will be jettesoned and destroyed"
L752[17:33:42] <Inari> Death is the infal
release
L753[17:33:44] <Inari> /s
L754[17:34:03] <Forecaster>
It's not like the ship is connected directly to an
incinerator
<Forecaster>
It's not like the ship is connected directly to an
incineratorL755[17:34:14] <AmandaC> No, but you have
weapons don't you?
L756[17:34:30] <AmandaC> I imagined it as
"jetteson the cargo, shoot a turret at it"
L757[17:34:53] <Forecaster>
I'm inside a station... On a landing pad
<Forecaster>
I'm inside a station... On a landing padL758[17:34:57] <AmandaC> So not only would
that kill them, but in a very painful way, too, as the container
decompresses
L759[17:35:20] <AmandaC> you took illegal
goods into a station? Brave. :P
L760[17:35:25] <Forecaster>
I didn't eject them into space
<Forecaster>
I didn't eject them into spaceL761[17:35:36] <Forecaster>
It's not that hard
<Forecaster>
It's not that hardL762[17:35:53] <Forecaster>
You just have to be quick and get in before someone scans you
<Forecaster>
You just have to be quick and get in before someone scans youL763[17:46:11] ⇦
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L764[17:47:17] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
r00d
L765[17:47:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L766[18:10:17] <bad at
vijya> so
<bad at
vijya> soL767[18:10:30] <bad at
vijya> how the fuck do i tell a tablet from a normal computer in
OC
<bad at
vijya> how the fuck do i tell a tablet from a normal computer in
OCL768[18:10:57] <AmandaC> The existance of
the `tablet` component
L769[18:11:35] <bad at
vijya> o h
<bad at
vijya> o hL770[18:11:40] <bad at
vijya> thanks
<bad at
vijya> thanksL771[18:12:35] <bad at
vijya> just planning out a tablet OS to use a cut down version
of Tsuki
<bad at
vijya> just planning out a tablet OS to use a cut down version
of TsukiL772[18:13:13] <bad at
vijya> it also gives me an excuse to plan out a lot of the
kernel API :P
<bad at
vijya> it also gives me an excuse to plan out a lot of the
kernel API :PL773[18:56:43] <Ariri>
bauen1: my desktops IP, same network as the rPi
<Ariri>
bauen1: my desktops IP, same network as the rPiL774[18:57:08] <Ariri> I
read about it in an article but I’m not sure
<Ariri> I
read about it in an article but I’m not sureL775[18:59:52] ⇦
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L776[19:02:12] <Ariri> I
use a WebRTC network limiter but it’s not enough
<Ariri> I
use a WebRTC network limiter but it’s not enoughL777[19:58:33] <Izaya> not sure how
OpenVPN would help you unless you have either a VPS or a VPN
provider then
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L779[19:59:46] <pentadyne> hello
L780[19:59:53] <Izaya> ey
L781[20:00:00] <pentadyne> mind if I ask a
question?
L782[20:00:22] <Izaya> go for it?
L783[20:00:51] <pentadyne> so I'm using
serialization.unserialize on a serialized table, yet I don't get a
table as the return value
L784[20:00:53] <pentadyne> I get the raw
string
L785[20:01:59] *
Izaya squints
L786[20:02:04] <Izaya> that's not how it's
supposed to work
L787[20:02:11] <Izaya> ~w
serialization
L788[20:02:11] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:serialization
L789[20:02:47] <Lizzy> pentadyne, got a
sample of the code that's not working?
L790[20:02:55] <payonel> pentadyne: you
should get a table back. got a sample? :)
L791[20:02:55] <pentadyne> sure, let me
put it somewhere
L792[20:03:35] <Lizzy> hastebin, pastebin
or gist are generally good places
L793[20:03:40] <payonel> %tonk
L794[20:03:42] <MichiBot> Sard! payonel!
You beat bauen1's previous record of 2 hours, 38 minutes and 40
seconds (By 1 hour, 2 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L795[20:03:43] <MichiBot> payonel's new
record is 3 hours, 40 minutes and 59 seconds! payonel also gained
0.00312 (0.00104 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L796[20:03:55] <payonel> %tonkout
L797[20:03:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
payonel, you were not able to beat payonel's record of 3 hours, 40
minutes and 59 seconds this time. 13 seconds were wasted! Missed by
3 hours, 40 minutes and 45 seconds!
L798[20:04:03] <payonel> oh right, tonkout
sucks now
L799[20:04:25] <pentadyne> https://pastebin.com/ampQWDDg
L800[20:05:33] <payonel> pentadyne: and
what is the output?
L801[20:06:10] <payonel> do you get
`attempt to index a nil value (field 'package-manager')` ?
L802[20:06:13] <pentadyne> ytep
L803[20:06:59] <pentadyne> and if I just
print out package_db I get a string instead of [Table
0x0blah]
L804[20:07:21] <Lizzy> what's the string
contain?
L805[20:07:47] <pentadyne> exactly what I
put into the serialize method
L806[20:08:01] <Lizzy> hmm
L807[20:08:19] <payonel> pentadyne: let me
check something
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L809[20:08:39] <pentadyne> I'm on
minecraft 1.12.2 if that matters
L810[20:10:30] <payonel> pentadyne: works
for me
L811[20:10:34] *
payonel shrugs
L812[20:10:40] <payonel> i copied your
example exactly
L813[20:11:30] <pentadyne> thats
weird
L814[20:11:34] <payonel> pentadyne: and
what is printed?
L815[20:11:43] <pentadyne> test
L816[20:11:45] <payonel>
"{[\"package-manager\"]={files=\"test\",version=1.0,dependencies={\"tar\"}}}"
?
L817[20:11:49] <pentadyne> yes \
L818[20:11:57] <pentadyne> no not
quite
L819[20:11:58] <pentadyne> actually
L820[20:12:03] <pentadyne> it prints out
without quotes
L821[20:12:10] <payonel> or:
{["package-manager"]={files="test",version=1.0,dependencies={"tar"}}}
L822[20:12:15] <pentadyne> yeah the second
one
L823[20:12:17] <payonel> yeah, should work
fine
L824[20:12:36] <pentadyne> can I put my
whole program on pastebin
L825[20:12:53] <payonel> sure
L826[20:13:01] <payonel> include in your
test on pastebin something that first writes the file
L827[20:13:10] <payonel> don't have any
external file deps, just to show a simple repro
L828[20:13:30] <pentadyne> https://pastebin.com/XWudZPvD
L829[20:14:16] <payonel> pentadyne: get
rid out external deps, like i said
L830[20:14:18] <payonel> no wget
L831[20:14:34] <payonel> create your test
file and read it to a package all in one
L832[20:14:50] <payonel> a repro should be
minimal
L833[20:15:03] <payonel> also reduce your
problem to the smallest failure before asking for help
L834[20:15:19] <pentadyne> well I know it
wgets correctly so there's that
L835[20:15:33] <pentadyne> but it doesn't
load from the file properly
L836[20:15:44] <pentadyne> because it
works with the raw string
L837[20:16:03] <payonel> but i'm not going
to test it and help unless it is a repro :)
L838[20:16:06] <payonel> that's how help
works
L839[20:16:26] <payonel> also, i recommend
you use `if not condition then ... end` rather than checking `==
false`
L840[20:16:32] <payonel> i often return
nil, not false
L841[20:16:43] <pentadyne> okay good to
know
L842[20:16:44] <payonel> (I <- being
the os dev of the things your using)
L843[20:16:49] <payonel> youre*
L844[20:18:02] <pentadyne> one
moment
L845[20:18:22] <payonel> you can also
print db
L846[20:18:31] <payonel> also, try putting
assert around the unserialize clal
L847[20:18:32] <payonel> call*
L848[20:18:48] <payonel> like, `local db =
assert(serialization.unserialize(data))`
L849[20:19:10] <pentadyne> forgive me for
I dont use lua much, what does assert do
L850[20:19:24] <payonel> throws an
exception if the first arg is falsey
L851[20:20:13] <pentadyne> https://pastebin.com/DYhx32Pe this should be what
you're looking for?
L852[20:20:29] <pentadyne> it runs
perfectly which is interesting, guess I need to fix file
loading
L853[20:23:49] <Izaya>
f=io.open(whatever,"rw")
L854[20:23:54] <Izaya>
data=f:read("*a")
L855[20:23:56] <Izaya> f:close()
L856[20:24:03] <pentadyne> thank you
L857[20:24:19] <pentadyne> I couldn't find
anything :(
L858[20:24:23] <pentadyne> I sound like a
complete idiot lol
L859[20:24:59] <payonel> Izaya: we dont
allow "rw"
L860[20:25:16] <Izaya> oh, sorry, been
abusing PsychOS iofs
L861[20:25:18] <Izaya> rb rather
L862[20:25:53] <payonel> also, tbh, adding
the b is unnecessary, but fine :)
L863[20:26:18] <Izaya> I think newer
versions of Lua only allow binary mode anyway
L864[20:26:20] <Izaya> but
L865[20:26:26] <payonel> we don't
reinterpret newlines, you'll have identical byte streams either
way
L866[20:26:28] <Izaya> (ie b is
implied)
L867[20:26:46] <Izaya> we still kinda
support 5.1 so
L868[20:26:57] <payonel> Izaya: we're not
using lua's io
L869[20:27:01] <payonel> technically
L870[20:27:01] <payonel> :)
L871[20:27:07] <Izaya> ... oh.
right.
L872[20:28:40] <pentadyne> Okay so I
appreciate the help, but now whenever I try to print a value I get
the error: attempt to index a function value (local
'package_db
L873[20:29:11] <Bob> isnt
indexing accesing a table value
<Bob> isnt
indexing accesing a table valueL874[20:29:21] <Bob> if yes
the youre function[tableacces] probably
<Bob> if yes
the youre function[tableacces] probablyL875[20:29:40] <Bob> and
functions arent tables (dont have metatable index field
either)
<Bob> and
functions arent tables (dont have metatable index field
either)L876[20:30:48] <Bob> Lua
error reports are really the most informative thing out there so
its worth fully interpretting it
<Bob> Lua
error reports are really the most informative thing out there so
its worth fully interpretting itL877[20:31:06] <Bob> *gosh
its already 03:30 and i dont have any will to sleep*
<Bob> *gosh
its already 03:30 and i dont have any will to sleep*L878[20:35:02] <pentadyne> I found my
issue
L879[20:35:14] <Izaya> What are some weak
authentication methods used commonly in business
environments?
L880[20:35:21] <payonel> Izaya: plain
text
L881[20:35:29] <Izaya> Old versions of SMB
comes to mind
L882[20:35:31] <pentadyne> shared
password
L883[20:35:49] <payonel> Izaya: oh sorry,
i read "weak security" (because i didnt read the whole
thing) :)
L884[20:35:57] <Izaya> :p
L885[20:36:08] <Lizzy> pentadyne, what was
the issue in the end?
L886[20:36:28] <pentadyne> turns out
somehow removing the quotes on the outside and removing all the
escape sequences worked
L887[20:37:07] <payonel> <+payonel>
or:
{["package-manager"]={files="test",version=1.0,dependencies={"tar"}}}
L888[20:37:07] <payonel> <pentadyne>
yeah the second one
L889[20:37:12] <payonel> so that wasn't
what it printed?
L890[20:37:21] <pentadyne> yikes
L891[20:37:27] <pentadyne> yep
L892[20:37:32] <pentadyne> wasn't it, I
just glossed over it
L893[20:37:36] <pentadyne> my
apologizes
L894[20:37:38] <pentadyne>
*apologies
L895[20:39:41] <payonel> btw, Izaya,
sometimes i like: data = io.lines(path, "*a")()
L896[20:39:42] <payonel> :)
L897[20:39:59] <Izaya> oooooo
L898[20:40:37] <payonel> pentadyne: ALSO,
i asked: "do you get `attempt to index a nil value (field
'package-manager')` ? "
L899[20:40:42] <payonel> but that wasn't
the error, was it?
L900[20:40:46] <pentadyne> actually it
was
L901[20:41:18] <payonel> oh, because you
had the whole thing quoted
L902[20:41:41] <pentadyne> I copied the
exact output from when I tested it in the lua prompt
L903[20:42:14] <pentadyne> at one point I
did get rid of the quotes, but the escape sequences were still
there which meant it still didn't work so I put the quotes
back
L904[20:42:20] <pentadyne> I do appreciate
the help
L905[20:45:19] <payonel> just fyi,
serialization.unserialize("''") returns a string
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L909[20:46:10] <payonel> as does
serialization.unserialize("'{}'")
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L911[22:10:28] <agris> Hello, the mod
crashes my server when someone types lshw and natives aren't
working on linux
L912[22:10:32] <agris> can someone please
help me
L913[22:34:13] <pentadyne> ayy my silly
little package manager works
L914[22:34:25] <pentadyne> I'm proud of it
tho
L915[22:49:47] <pentadyne> It loads a
package database from my github repo and you can install them
L916[22:50:28] <AmandaC> %tell Inari I
went on a quantum journey! Finished just in time for the sun to go
supernova and kill me!
L917[22:50:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L918[22:56:54] <Izaya> pentadyne: why not
oppm?
L919[22:57:10] <pentadyne> because I
wanted to make my own to use for my own programs
L920[22:57:14] <pentadyne> its mainly just
for fun
L921[22:57:16] <Izaya> fair
L922[22:57:27] *
Izaya needs to think about package managers eventually for
PsychOS
L923[22:57:45] <pentadyne> I'm making a
storage system and I wanted to make a system to keep all the
computers up to date
L924[22:57:53] <pentadyne> so I decided to
spin up an entire package manager lol
L925[22:59:40] <pentadyne> it just
downloads tar files that contain files for the package and runs a
setup program
L926[23:00:03] <pentadyne> that is in the
tar file
L927[23:00:17] <Izaya> reasonable
method
L928[23:00:39] <Izaya> I'm thinking I want
an archive format sufficiently dumb to unpack in an EEPROM in under
512 bytes
L929[23:03:47] <pentadyne> its so easy to
update my package manager now
L930[23:03:56] <pentadyne> I used to have
to copy in the whole file every time I made a change
L931[23:04:13] <pentadyne> now I just run
package-manager --update --install package-manager
L932[23:04:18] <pentadyne> after updating
it in the repo
L933[23:04:51] <Izaya> hm, if I were to do
one I should make it work over FRequest as well as the
internet
L934[23:04:57] <pentadyne> FRequest?
L935[23:05:12] <Izaya> Minitel's dumb file
transfer protocol
L936[23:05:15] <Izaya> nominally
hypertext
L937[23:05:43] <agris> Hello, the mod
crashes my server when someone types lshw and natives aren't
working on linux
L938[23:05:44] <agris> can someone please
help me
L939[23:05:55] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-Minitel/src/branch/master/FRequest/FRequest-protocol.md
L940[23:06:01] <pentadyne> have you tried
reinstalling the mod?
L941[23:06:29] <agris> pentadyne, you mean
like removing the mod from the mods folder and putting it back in
pentadyne ?
L942[23:06:30] <Izaya> any details at all
would be good for debugging, also
L943[23:06:48] <pentadyne> redownload,
delete from mod folder, and delete config
L944[23:06:50] <pentadyne> worth a
try
L945[23:06:50] <agris> I can provide a
crash dump and a serverlog
L946[23:06:57] <pentadyne> provide those
first tho
L947[23:07:06] <agris> well the SHA256 sum
does indeed match
L948[23:07:16] <agris> I triple checked
that
L949[23:07:19] <pentadyne> hm then that
doesn't seem necessary
L950[23:07:32] <pentadyne> have minecraft
version?
L951[23:07:33] <pentadyne> sd
L952[23:07:42] <agris> I also tried
compiling the mod from source, no effect either
L953[23:07:50] <agris> yeah, MC
1.12.2
L954[23:07:55] <pentadyne> and what
server?
L955[23:08:35] <agris> what do you
mean
L956[23:08:40] <pentadyne> like
L957[23:08:45] <agris> Vanilla + Force I
would think
L958[23:08:48] <agris> *Forge
L959[23:08:52] <Izaya> uname -a?
L960[23:09:11] <agris> Linux minecraft
3.10.0-957.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Apr 29 14:59:59 UTC 2019
x86_64 GNU/Linux
L961[23:09:32] <pentadyne> does lshw crash
the server when run on all computers or just one specific
one?
L962[23:09:40] <Izaya> mildly old kernel
but it should be fine
L963[23:09:56] <agris> there's only one
computer on the server currently
L964[23:10:06] <agris> It was made legit
so it's hard to craft
L965[23:10:12] <pentadyne> true
L966[23:10:23] <pentadyne> do you have the
crash logs?
L967[23:10:31] <agris> lzaya, actually
that's the newest kernel from CentOS 7
L968[23:10:58] <agris> It's a Devuan ASCII
LXC container on a CentOS 7 LXC hypervisor
L969[23:11:04] <agris> sure, 1 sec
L970[23:11:12] <Izaya> I mean, sure, but
3.10 is pretty old
L971[23:11:24] <agris> sure
L972[23:11:40] <Izaya> my debian box is
running 4.9 and my desktop is running 5.1.9
L973[23:11:44] <Izaya> but yeah, shouldn't
be an issue
L974[23:13:46] <agris> https://www.nuegia.net/minecraft/crash-2019-06-20_06.37.24-server.txt
L975[23:14:18] *
Izaya pages payonel
L976[23:15:02] <Izaya> any chance you'd
care to try with the latest build?
L977[23:15:20] <agris> the way it crashes
the server is pretty strange too. It's not a immediate crash. the
world freezes, then on the console it says a tick took longer than
so and so seconds, assuming world is crashed; stopping server
L978[23:15:30] <Izaya> 1.7.4 had a few
bugs so https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12/167/
L979[23:15:46] <agris> also, whenever
someone joins it says the native libs failed
L980[23:15:57] <pentadyne> you could also
try reinstalling the forge server
L981[23:16:01] <agris> I don't mind. I've
got backups of the server and world
L982[23:16:05] <pentadyne> just the server
file tho
L983[23:16:10] <pentadyne> it wouldn't
hurt
L984[23:16:26] <agris> well actually forge
is injected into the vanilla library on-launch
L985[23:16:32] <agris> via a shell
script
L986[23:16:53] <pentadyne> okay thats
interesting
L987[23:16:59] <pentadyne> never heard of
that before
L988[23:17:08] <Izaya> it's the way it's
done nowadays I gather
L989[23:17:13] <agris> I'd show it to you
some time
L990[23:17:19] <Izaya> avoids license
issues or something
L991[23:17:41] <pentadyne> I'm stuck back
in the old days with jarmods and winrar and forge server ;P
L992[23:17:44] <agris> basiclly it makes
managing the server and upgrading pretty easy to as i just change a
bash variable to point to the new jar
L993[23:17:57] <Izaya> pentadyne: did you
remember to delete META-INF?
L994[23:17:59] <pentadyne> are you using a
stable build of forge?
L995[23:18:05] <agris> y
L996[23:18:11] <pentadyne> oh shoot I
forgot to delete META-INF and the screen is black
L997[23:18:22] <pentadyne> unstable builds
might mess opencomputers up somehow /shrug
L998[23:18:34] <agris> well Actually
pentadyne if your interested I maintain a custom fork of multiMC
which doesn't have the google spyware in it
L999[23:18:48] <agris> makes modding the
client super easy with a click interface
L1000[23:18:58] <pentadyne> oh thats
cool
L1001[23:19:01] <Izaya> <3
MultiMC
L1002[23:19:50] <pentadyne> what if you
tried loading your multiplayer world in singleplayer and opening
the computer?
L1003[23:19:58] <pentadyne> and doing
lshw
L1004[23:20:42] <agris> oh uh, haven't
done that. I don't ever use the client in singleplayer mode except
for testing large creations in creative mode
L1005[23:20:52] <agris> let me try that
right now while tar finishes
L1006[23:22:05] <ben_mkiv> why do you use
a custom multimc fork instead of just blocking the google
hosts?
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L1008[23:25:12] <agris> ben_mkiv, because
I don't like the fact there is spyware functionality there in the
first place, even if you can 'turn it off'
L1009[23:25:29] <agris> piece of mind ya
know?
L1010[23:26:27] <agris> it's like i've
been using this software for years, then one day I download and
compile the newest release and it's asking me questions about
consenting to have my system's data sent to and aggregated by
google? yeahno
L1011[23:27:56] <Izaya> nobody ever runs
their own analytics server either
L1012[23:28:04] <Izaya> it's always
through a hostile third party :|
L1013[23:28:35] <ben_mkiv> so what
exactly are the downsides of having your system data somewhere on a
google server?
L1014[23:28:45] <ben_mkiv> as its
probably just hardware specs
L1015[23:29:05] <pentadyne> I mean,
realistically, companies know enough about you already
L1016[23:29:15] <pentadyne> but there's
not too much harm in trying to protect yourself
L1017[23:29:24] <ben_mkiv> protect from
what?
L1018[23:29:25] <agris> It also didn't
make any sense to me the reasoning for an open source free software
tool to be bundling analytics. It's not like they have shareholders
to report amount of users to.
L1019[23:29:37] <Izaya> it's not like any
of the individual things facebook or google or your choice of
hostile corporation are harmful on their own
L1020[23:29:46] <Izaya> s/are/collect
are/
L1021[23:29:47] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
it's not like any of the individual things facebook or google or
your choice of hostile corporation collect are harmful on their
own
L1022[23:31:08] <pentadyne> anyway, any
results
L1023[23:31:14] <agris> privacy isn't
about hiding things. Privacy is about selectively sharing your
details with people. I have absolutely zero business with Google
and I don't trust them.
L1024[23:31:24] <Izaya> the worry is when
they correlate them together :D
L1025[23:31:45] <agris> ANYWAYS
L1026[23:32:09] <agris> so I setup a
computer in singleplayer in the exact same configuration as before,
and it seems to work just fine with lshw
L1027[23:32:14] <agris> no crashing
L1028[23:32:41] <Izaya> https://aria.company/media/2a8d06563884dd8a9273f426394d5653476f76db151e96deae023815d475661f.jpg
L1029[23:32:44] <agris> about to install
the latest nightly build of oc you linked me
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L1032[23:45:59] <agris> ok so in this
version typing lshw doesn't crash the server
L1033[23:46:07] <pentadyne> ayy!
L1034[23:46:13] <agris> just makes a
nasty message on console and hangs the computer
L1035[23:46:21] <agris> and native
libraries still fail to load
L1036[23:46:27] <pentadyne> not ayy
L1037[23:46:33] <agris> oh wait
L1038[23:46:33] <pentadyne> what forge
version are you using
L1039[23:46:35] <agris> nevermind
L1040[23:46:38] <pentadyne> oh
L1041[23:46:40] <pentadyne> yeet
L1042[23:46:52] <agris> server just
crashed. just didn't do it within a few seconds this time
L1043[23:47:33] <agris> https://hastebin.com/yeqonopiqu.sql
L1044[23:49:10] <agris>
1.12.2-14.23.4.2759-universal
L1045[23:51:08] <Izaya> what's the nasty
messagE?
L1046[23:51:34] <agris> https://hastebin.com/yeqonopiqu.sql
L1047[23:56:48] <agris> do you need me to
give you the new crash report?
L1048[23:59:07] <pentadyne> I think
somehow its your forge version but idk