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L1[00:01:52] <Ariri> I see
L2[01:01:03] <Forecaster> %tonk
L3[01:01:04] <MichiBot> Sard! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 36 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L4[01:01:05] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 36 minutes and 21 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00261 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L5[01:13:06] <Temia> %quaff random
L6[01:13:06] <MichiBot> You drink a light copper potion (New!). Dramatic music briefly plays in the distance.
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L13[04:07:16] <bauen1> %tonkout
L14[04:07:17] <MichiBot> Sard! bauen1! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 36 minutes and 21 seconds (By 29 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L15[04:07:18] <MichiBot> bauen1 has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.006
L16[04:07:32] <bauen1> %help
L17[04:07:32] <MichiBot> bauen1: Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
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L31[06:10:28] <Forecaster> %sip random
L32[06:10:29] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery stainless steel potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite hat is suddenly on fire.
L33[06:10:38] <Forecaster> Ohno
L34[06:23:08] <stephan48> i got a OC robot, can i somehow find out whats in its selected inventory slot?
L35[06:28:15] <Bob> isn't inventory controller upgrade able to see wahts ina specific slot
L36[06:28:21] <Bob> once you get the equiepd slot id N?
L37[06:29:42] <stephan48> right
L38[06:30:22] <stephan48> i thought the inventory_controller was only for external stuff but it appears to be useable also for internal things with getStackInInternalSlot
L39[06:30:40] <stephan48> thought i could go without the controller :D
L40[06:32:33] <stephan48> got bored with setting up rftools builders for automating compact machines crafting. build a OC script for it. the item fetching is still to be done but building the individual recipes works already
L41[06:38:08] <stephan48> thanks!
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L44[06:50:16] <Bob> the inventory controller is needed to equip and unequip stuff
L45[06:50:16] <Bob> so
L46[06:59:26] <stephan48> which my use case does not need :D yea will include it into the next robot
L47[06:59:27] <stephan48> thanks
L48[07:00:49] <baschdel> %tonk
L49[07:00:50] <MichiBot> Waesucks! baschdel! You beat bauen1's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 53 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L50[07:00:51] <MichiBot> baschdel's new record is 2 hours, 53 minutes and 32 seconds! baschdel also gained 0.00289 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L51[07:09:33] <AmandaC> %tell Inari Inari~~ you can't just use abstract non-euclidean objects arranged in 4 dimensions for a crafting system~~
L52[07:09:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L55[07:18:41] <t20kdc> %tell Inari I'm looking forward to 4D Minecraft
L56[07:18:41] <MichiBot> t20kdc: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L57[07:19:58] <t20kdc> minicraft was 2d, minecraft was 3d, 4d is the future
L58[07:23:06] <Bob> was mmm
L59[07:31:05] <AmandaC> t20kdc: in my dream it actually was for some kind of Sim game, not something Minecraft-y
L60[07:33:03] <Bob> how do you have dreams bruh
L61[07:33:32] <AmandaC> Same way as everyone else, bio chemical reactions while the brain rests
L62[07:34:28] <AmandaC> My subconscious is a massive troll though, if I ever come close to lucid dreaming it'll stop using whatever the dream sign was
L63[07:35:43] <AmandaC> For a while I realised I was in a dream because there'd be a "walk and talk" type thing which eventually is be high in the air with an impossibly high ceiling for the room I was in, but that stopped right as I started noticing in my dreams
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L65[07:38:03] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot final fantasy 50, the really-really final fantasy
L66[07:38:04] * MichiBot accepts final fantasy 50, the really-really final fantasy and adds it to her inventory
L67[07:39:03] <AmandaC> %inv del final fantasy 50, the really-really final fantasy
L68[07:39:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Removed item from inventory
L69[07:39:44] <AmandaC> %inv add final fantasy L, the really-really final fantasy
L70[07:39:46] * MichiBot summons 'final fantasy L, the really-really final fantasy' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
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L72[07:45:08] <Forecaster> Shouldn't it be FF omega
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L74[08:11:26] <AmandaC> Forecaster: it's from the lyrics of a starbomb song
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L77[09:06:36] <Izaya> t20kdc: I always enjoyed that 2D minecraft mod
L78[09:08:24] <ben_mkiv> stephan48, did that a while back, too
L79[09:08:39] <ben_mkiv> actually it turned out as script which could actually build anything from a given pattern
L80[09:11:32] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/ben-mkiv/oc-lua/tree/master/src/robot/compactingmachines
L81[09:11:38] <ben_mkiv> but could probably be done better xD
L82[09:16:07] <stephan48> actually that makes my code so much simpler
L83[09:16:19] <ben_mkiv> https://imgur.com/a/YG0wWdm
L84[09:16:23] <ben_mkiv> thats how the setup looks like
L85[09:17:14] <stephan48> building a compactmachine in a compactmachine? :D
L86[09:17:22] <ben_mkiv> yes :D
L87[09:17:33] <stephan48> heh
L88[09:18:17] <ben_mkiv> actually the right drawer is supposed to have ironblocks/redstone in it
L89[09:19:35] <stephan48> i plan to have a control computer to react to AE2 autocrafting/dispense the resources for the robot, which idles unless triggered with a recipe via a network request
L90[09:19:51] *** cpup is now known as CoderPuppy
L91[09:21:07] <stephan48> what i implemented for building was a mechanism to craft a quadratic cube which has something in the exact middle
L92[09:21:46] <stephan48> currently 3x3x3 or 5x5x5 is supported. for the walls and the hopper thingy two dedicated "recipes" are implemented - these could easily be done with your code
L93[09:21:56] <stephan48> the big one too ofcourse since you already scripted it :D
L94[09:22:25] <ben_mkiv> the wall is also in the "recipes"
L95[09:22:37] <ben_mkiv> just not the 3³ + tunnel
L96[09:23:00] *** CoderPuppy is now known as cpup
L97[09:23:50] <stephan48> ye saw the wall
L98[09:25:03] <ben_mkiv> uhm, i should add references for the blocknames, instead of having the names 100 times in the file xD
L99[09:25:10] <stephan48> :D
L100[09:25:31] <stephan48> i think its ok
L101[09:34:18] <bad at vijya> SO
L102[09:34:22] <bad at vijya> I MADE SOMETHING FASTER THAN IF
L103[09:34:36] <bad at vijya> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/acayaredun
L104[09:36:24] <AmandaC> (x doubt meme)
L105[09:36:32] <bad at vijya> http://tinyurl.com/yybmddrz
L106[09:36:55] <AmandaC> What lua engine?
L107[09:37:28] <bad at vijya> 5.3
L108[09:37:33] <bad at vijya> puc
L109[09:37:46] <AmandaC> I could see that maybe with luajit, but I doubt it for the interpreted version
L110[09:38:31] <Bob> wait wtf
L111[09:38:39] <Bob> @bad at vijya how does it work, i need it
L112[09:38:58] <bad at vijya> how does which work?
L113[09:39:27] <bad at vijya> metatable if works like
L114[09:39:27] <bad at vijya> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/cawisivagu
L115[09:39:37] <Bob> really intresting
L116[09:40:29] <bad at vijya> OH
L117[09:40:32] <bad at vijya> I FORGOT TO CALL FUNCTIONS
L118[09:40:33] <bad at vijya> IGNORE ME
L119[09:40:37] <bad at vijya> I'M A RARTARD
L120[09:40:53] <Bob> yea it was insanely strange
L121[09:40:59] <Bob> beacuse i tested and metatables are slower than ifs
L122[09:41:02] <Bob> like
L123[09:41:55] <Bob> if o[v] then o[v]() else dummy() end vs setmetatable(o,{__index = function() dummy() end}
L124[09:42:51] <bad at vijya> now in luajit the gap has been closed
L125[09:43:12] <bad at vijya> luajit 2.0.5 iirc
L126[09:43:19] <bad at vijya> oh
L127[09:43:23] <bad at vijya> it's 2.1.0-beta3
L128[09:43:32] <AmandaC> That's because it'll get optimised into the same ASM code
L129[09:43:36] <Bob> ?
L130[09:44:23] <bad at vijya> i just mean
L131[09:44:28] <bad at vijya> it ? closer
L132[09:45:01] <bad at vijya> it's 0.01 to 0.09 vs 0.09 to 0.29
L133[09:47:30] <Bob> *close*
L134[09:48:59] <AmandaC> Where on Earth did you kids even get the idea that metatables would be faster, anyways
L135[09:50:24] <AmandaC> Metatables are notoriously slow
L136[09:53:04] <bad at vijya> i am literally the elon musk of bad programming ideas
L137[09:53:53] <bad at vijya> if elon musk was a poor white teen living in an east coast suburbia past it's prime
L138[09:56:51] <AmandaC> Bbl, teeth getting stolen soon
L139[09:57:05] <Izaya> I wish to have all my teeth replaced with steel ones
L140[09:57:08] <Izaya> to better crush my enemies
L141[09:57:16] <Izaya> friendly reminder that the best use of metatables is making a table that is actually the filesystem
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L143[10:11:04] <bad at vijya> america irl http://tinyurl.com/y5ykhmx8
L144[10:12:26] <Ariri> Yup
L145[10:12:32] <Ariri> But u forgot
L146[10:12:37] <Ariri> **O I L**
L147[10:13:14] <Temia> One of these days I'm going to find a way to catalyze maple syrup into biodiesel, and then Canada will be the new superpower
L148[10:14:00] <Temia> Also the greenest country on earth as we just flood the land with more trees
L149[10:14:07] <Temia> aLL THE TREES
L150[10:14:32] * AmandaC bombs America with tree saplings
L151[10:14:48] <bauen1> that's basically how you get america to invade you - trying to be nice
L152[10:15:04] <Ariri> Eh
L153[10:15:25] <Temia> https://www-static.weddingbee.com/pics/43408/falling_maple_seeds.jpg THE BOMBING RUN BEGINS
L154[10:15:29] <Ariri> Well just get the australians to move here and plant trees all over the place, carbon footprint no more
L155[10:15:35] <Ariri> Hahah^
L156[10:16:00] <Temia> our whirlybirds will block out the sun +_+
L157[10:16:41] <Ariri> Eco decepticons
L158[10:17:37] <bauen1> well, the top canadian export product (22%) is fossile fuels
L159[10:18:57] <Izaya> america_irl https://i.4cdn.org/o/1560451792554.jpg
L160[10:22:18] <Ariri> Just found an RS6 american meme haha
L161[10:22:36] <bauen1> btw if the temperature is above 40 degress celcius and the humidty is 100% you're gonna die at some point, since your body can't cool itself
L162[10:22:45] <Ariri> http://tinyurl.com/y2xwjmxu
L163[10:22:54] <bauen1> that makes me wonder how many places near the equator will soon become uninhabitable
L164[10:22:54] <Ariri> Don’t download it if u have to, it’s just a meme
L165[10:23:08] <Izaya> cool I won't
L166[10:23:21] <Ariri> Great
L167[10:23:30] <Ariri> California is gonna get even hotter
L168[10:23:45] <Izaya> is california becoming uninhabitable such a bad thing?
L169[10:23:47] <Izaya> wait
L170[10:23:54] <Izaya> that means the californians will spread outwards
L171[10:23:56] <Izaya> shit
L172[10:24:19] <Ariri> *ITS ON FIRE*
L173[10:24:37] <Ariri> And no more Ailicon Valley
L174[10:24:43] <Izaya> yeah but it's not burning the rich people so nobody cares
L175[10:24:45] <Ariri> And cops would have so much trouble
L176[10:25:03] <Ariri> *60 is 80 on the freeway*
L177[10:25:12] <Ariri> ^
L178[10:25:29] <Ariri> Beverly Hills is just a tourist attraction of what you don’t have tbh
L179[10:29:23] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHdpAVIHgo
L180[10:29:24] <MichiBot> This Is Serious Mum - TISM - Whatareya? (You're A Yob or You're A Wanker) | length: 3m 39s | Likes: 3,292 Dislikes: 113 Views: 643,847 | by Carbie Warbie | Published On 25/11/2008
L181[10:30:19] <Izaya> not sure why but that seemed like the appropriate music for this conversation
L182[10:31:12] <Ariri> *Americans marching in Normandy Beach circa 1945, colorized*
L183[10:32:01] <Izaya> the only more australian group than TISM is Midnight Oil
L184[10:32:21] <Ariri> *did I hear...*
L185[10:32:27] <Ariri> **OIL**
L186[10:32:56] <Izaya> oilz you mean
L187[10:32:58] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcKcjpSWmm0
L188[10:32:59] <MichiBot> Midnight Oil - Dreamworld | length: 4m 5s | Likes: 5,970 Dislikes: 232 Views: 1,949,664 | by MidnightOilVEVO | Published On 3/10/2009
L189[10:35:57] <Ariri> http://tinyurl.com/y5xdg72u
L190[10:37:12] <Ariri> ᓭ⍑╎ℸ ̣
L191[10:37:41] <Izaya> tfw will never get to see Cloudland
L192[10:37:50] <Izaya> http://radicaltimes.info/PDF/Cloudland.pdf
L193[10:38:47] <Bob> @Ariri https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480814000775364610/588430587849605153/2019-06-12_20-11-42.gif
L194[10:38:53] <Bob> Now the enchantement table is a keypad
L195[10:39:09] <Ariri> Damn
L196[10:39:14] <Ariri> What does that protect
L197[10:39:27] <Bob> uhhh, not implemented
L198[10:39:37] <Ariri> I
L199[10:39:38] <Ariri> O
L200[10:39:57] <Bob> https://github.com/big-lip-bob/OCMessesAndBadCode/blob/master/Scripts/OpenSecurity/BetterKeypadThatDoesNotSuck.lua
L201[10:39:59] <Izaya> are those runes
L202[10:40:21] <Izaya> I wrote a thing that could convert them based on their latin approximations at one point
L203[10:40:29] <Bob> ~~yea but i don't know if there are MC runes in unicode~~
L204[10:41:03] <Izaya> you end up using multiple families of runes if you want the whole alphabet
L205[10:41:10] <Izaya> plus a few Tolkien invented for LoTR
L206[10:41:36] <Ariri> I don’t think SGA is in Unicode
L207[10:43:25] <Bob> i already needed sMoothfont to support unicode properly
L208[10:44:23] <Izaya> my videos folder is full of poorly named webms
L209[10:44:25] <Izaya> :|
L210[10:44:51] <Ariri> Oof I know how that is
L211[10:45:15] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/0d43Twc.png
L212[10:45:27] <bad at vijya> i need to make a NAS one of these days
L213[10:45:36] <bad at vijya> i have a few HDDs i'm looking at
L214[10:45:51] <Izaya> I need like $3k to upgrade my server
L215[10:45:53] <Izaya> I want 8 8TB HDDs
L216[10:46:04] <bad at vijya> i've heard some of them low RPM toshiba drives are actually pretty reliable
L217[10:46:13] <bad at vijya> then again
L218[10:46:19] <bauen1> Izaya: https://diskprices.com/
L219[10:46:20] <bad at vijya> i actually have one in my desktop
L220[10:46:34] <Izaya> bauen1: >no au
L221[10:46:40] <bauen1> ouch
L222[10:46:53] <bad at vijya> the 5940RPM 3TB drive
L223[10:48:57] <bad at vijya> i think i now have like 3 years of power on time or some stupid amount?
L224[10:49:24] <bad at vijya> anyways
L225[10:49:42] <bad at vijya> drives i'm staying away from:
L226[10:49:43] <bad at vijya> -toshiba 7200+RPM drives
L227[10:49:43] <bad at vijya> -anything seagate
L228[10:50:10] * Izaya slides AC a few dozen 15kRPM SCSI320 drives
L229[10:50:16] <Izaya> here's your RAID array bro
L230[10:50:58] <bauen1> i've got a used (3 years constant power on time, ~200-300 cycles) 1tb hgst hitachi enterprise drive still kind of amazed that disk didn't die within the first month
L231[10:51:39] <bad at vijya> i once had a raid array of various 120GB PATA drives
L232[10:51:42] <Ariri> The one extra hard disk I have is failing ;-;
L233[10:51:45] <bad at vijya> somehow all of them were 7200RPM
L234[10:51:55] <bad at vijya> i had 8 of the fuckers
L235[10:52:00] <bad at vijya> literally filled up my RAID card
L236[10:52:07] <bad at vijya> speaking of
L237[10:52:17] <Izaya> RAID card in passthrough mode I hope
L238[10:52:22] <bad at vijya> nah G
L239[10:52:28] <Ariri> Uh oh
L240[10:52:33] <Izaya> mfw windows admins talk about using hardware raid
L241[10:52:35] <Izaya> [no face]
L242[10:52:38] <bad at vijya> oh
L243[10:52:42] <bad at vijya> it didn't work in windows lmao
L244[10:52:49] <bad at vijya> it didn't have drivers for anything past like
L245[10:52:49] <Ariri> Hey
L246[10:52:51] <bad at vijya> windows 2k
L247[10:53:22] <bad at vijya> anyways i gotta pop it in my old desktop and start throwing in drives
L248[10:53:33] <bad at vijya> i need to see if it has a passthrough mode tho
L249[10:53:47] <Izaya> at the very least, make each drive its own RAID 0
L250[10:53:56] <bad at vijya> oh yeah
L251[10:53:56] <bad at vijya> fair
L252[10:54:23] <bad at vijya> lemme go grab the card and chuck it in my "beast" of an old computer
L253[10:55:37] <Ariri> Mmm me over here with a 400$ windows machine and using OneDrive for storage
L254[10:55:57] <Izaya> with windows
L255[10:55:58] <Izaya> you lose
L256[10:56:05] <Ariri> :(
L257[10:56:15] <Ariri> What else am I supposed to use tho
L258[10:56:21] <bauen1> netbsd
L259[10:56:26] <Izaya> anything
L260[10:56:28] <Izaya> anything at all
L261[10:56:32] <Ariri> Don’t know what that is
L262[10:56:36] <Ariri> I built my computer
L263[10:56:36] <bad at vijya> haiku
L264[10:56:41] <bad at vijya> literally use haiku
L265[10:56:46] <Ariri> And I need it for program compatibility
L266[10:56:50] <Ariri> And like
L267[10:56:53] <Ariri> Everything else
L268[10:57:03] <Izaya> I don't care if you use the fucking QNX demo floppy
L269[10:57:08] <Izaya> anything is better than Windows
L270[10:57:10] <Ariri> And I’ve used it my whole life bruh
L271[10:57:12] <Ariri> Ffs
L272[10:57:31] <bad at vijya> use linux
L273[10:57:40] <bad at vijya> wine w/ dxvk and gallium9
L274[10:57:41] <Izaya> http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html
L275[10:57:44] <bad at vijya> profit
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L277[10:58:12] <Ariri> Linux isn’t compatible with everything tho that I use
L278[10:58:25] <bad at vijya> that's why you use w i n e
L279[10:58:33] <bad at vijya> with dxvk and gallium9
L280[10:58:37] <Ariri> And like I know how to use it anyways
L281[10:58:56] <Ariri> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ don’t know what those r
L282[10:58:58] <Ariri> Or didn’t
L283[10:59:09] <Izaya> >as I don't know how to drive, I will not learn how to drive
L284[10:59:10] <Ariri> When I built it
L285[10:59:14] <Bob> ^
L286[10:59:25] <bad at vijya> dxvk makes dx11/12 apps run faster in linux
L287[10:59:39] <Ariri> I’ll just take an Uber like a spoiled kid
L288[10:59:49] <Ariri> We have dx12
L289[11:00:00] <Izaya> imagine using legacy APIs like DX12
L290[11:00:25] * AmandaC wonders if itunes even works with iphones under wine
L291[11:00:53] <AmandaC> IIRC @Ariri is in the iOS camp
L292[11:00:57] <bad at vijya> gallium9 makes dx9 faster
L293[11:00:57] <Izaya> AmandaC: there are some things one should never attempt
L294[11:01:00] <Ariri> Linux was just impractical for me to install as a main OS, especially considering I use onedrive for my coins storage
L295[11:01:03] <Ariri> Shhhh
L296[11:01:05] <Ariri> Cloud*
L297[11:01:07] <bauen1> virtualbox usb passthrough to a macos vm doesn't work, it even crashes the iphone (iOS 11)
L298[11:01:53] <bauen1> while using macos windows already looked increcdibly bad, now i'm on linux and macos seems okish and windows just looks like hell for the user
L299[11:02:15] <Ariri> It’s not that bad even
L300[11:02:42] <Ariri> It works for me, and until I get the time to learn Linux better I’m gonna use it
L301[11:03:00] <Izaya> you are inducing unnecessary pain for yourself but it is your choice
L302[11:03:14] <bauen1> learning (something) is the best choice you will ever make
L303[11:03:22] <Ariri> But I don’t have unecesawry pain that’s what I’m saying
L304[11:03:27] <Ariri> Like it’s fine for me
L305[11:03:30] <Izaya> tfw haven't DD'd windows in 10 years, haven't had a windows machine in the house in a year
L306[11:03:53] <bauen1> windows machines are literally banned in my house
L307[11:03:59] <bauen1> (not by me)
L308[11:04:08] <Izaya> I have a separate VLAN for them but it's never been used
L309[11:04:20] <Izaya> I presume I could identify them automagically using DHCP
L310[11:04:29] <Izaya> which may be amusing to fuck with when I replace my router
L311[11:04:42] <Ariri> Okay but could you have onedrive auto sync to a folder on the drive
L312[11:04:58] <Ariri> Bc I don’t have any other storage than onedrive
L313[11:05:14] <Izaya> you have at least 50GB
L314[11:05:20] <Izaya> given that's the going size of windows nowadays
L315[11:05:37] <Ariri> On my computer yes, but I’m not always on it
L316[11:05:41] <bauen1> (cloud storage is also for backups and important stuff)
L317[11:05:54] <Izaya> "not always on it"
L318[11:05:56] <Izaya> but ssh exists
L319[11:05:57] <Ariri> I have to use cloud bc I work at campus and stuff as well
L320[11:06:09] <Izaya> where you are is irrelevant as long as both places have an internet connection
L321[11:06:11] <Ariri> Ssh may not even work for all I know
L322[11:06:24] <Ariri> They block vpn ports
L323[11:06:30] <bauen1> microsoft doesn't have an official client for linux, but from a short search it seems that quite a few people have build their own clients
L324[11:06:41] <Ariri> And Ssh isn’t practical for photoshop or document editing as far as I know
L325[11:07:10] <Izaya> do you mean accessing the files or running the program on the remote machine?
L326[11:07:17] <Izaya> because both work nicely over ssh :^)
L327[11:07:32] <Ariri> Yeah but like editing an actual photo
L328[11:07:37] <Ariri> Or video editing
L329[11:07:42] <Ariri> Over crappy internet
L330[11:07:55] <bauen1> you can mount the filesystem over ssh
L331[11:07:56] <AmandaC> rclone is pretty nice for onedrive, I hear
L332[11:08:02] <Ariri> That too I want to keep as few ports on my router open as possible
L333[11:08:07] <Ariri> I have smart home tech
L334[11:08:13] <bauen1> not that i suggest that you use ssh for that
L335[11:08:15] <Izaya> s/smart/surveillance/
L336[11:08:15] <MichiBot> <Ariri> I have surveillance home tech
L337[11:08:16] <bauen1> uhm
L338[11:08:33] <Izaya> reminder that you can change "smart" to "surveillance" and 99% of the time it'll still be accurate
L339[11:08:48] <Ariri> What
L340[11:08:49] <Izaya> at any rate, that should be on a VLAN not connected to the internet in any way
L341[11:08:57] <Ariri> Why did it change the heck
L342[11:09:32] <Ariri> I didn’t decide to get the camera in my house so I mean
L343[11:09:42] <Ariri> I got a garage opener and a thermostat that’s it
L344[11:10:01] <Izaya> neat
L345[11:10:18] <bauen1> in any case if you want to learn linux, install ubuntu on a laptop or VM and just try stuff (and you don't _really_ need to know how dpkg works to be able to use linux)
L346[11:10:27] <Ariri> If I Mount The filesystem would it use the clients resoruces or the computers
L347[11:10:47] <Izaya> stick it on a separate VLAN, allow only LAN traffic to pass to the surveillance tech VLAN and back
L348[11:10:49] <bauen1> You can access all the files like a NAS
L349[11:10:59] <Ariri> For processing*
L350[11:11:36] <bauen1> so if you mount the remote filesystem of your desktop on a laptop and then open the file on the laptop, the file will live on the desktop but the app (photoshop) will run on the laptop
L351[11:11:38] <Ariri> Izaya: I’ll have to learn to do that then, but the camera system is kinda stupid in terms of pairing
L352[11:11:44] <Ariri> It’s kinda trash
L353[11:11:54] <Izaya> >consumer surveillance tech is trash
L354[11:11:56] <Izaya> what a shock
L355[11:12:07] <Ariri> Yeah, that’s won’t work for a lot of things
L356[11:12:11] <Ariri> I didn’t buy it
L357[11:12:17] <Ariri> I hate having cameras at home
L358[11:12:28] <Izaya> spraypaint the lens
L359[11:12:38] <Ariri> I just slide the cover up
L360[11:12:43] <Ariri> Well I don’t have to even
L361[11:12:44] <Izaya> only use for cameras
L362[11:12:46] <Ariri> My brother did haha
L363[11:13:06] <Izaya> friendly reminder to spraypaint any cameras in public places
L364[11:13:33] <Ariri> ?
L365[11:23:36] <bad at vijya> oh
L366[11:23:37] <bad at vijya> hey
L367[11:23:38] <bad at vijya> in OC
L368[11:24:11] <bad at vijya> i made a lil library as a base for unmanaged filesystems
L369[11:24:18] <bad at vijya> and integrated it into Zorya v2
L370[11:24:43] <bad at vijya> tl;dr it provides a partition table and a 8 sectors for boot code
L371[11:25:32] <Izaya> I've been meaning to clone Venti in OC for a while...
L372[11:25:35] <Izaya> I should do that.
L373[11:25:57] <Izaya> hash tree file systems distributed across multiple machines :D
L374[11:26:17] <bad at vijya> huh
L375[11:26:21] <bad at vijya> i had an FS planned
L376[11:26:41] <Izaya> http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/
L377[11:26:42] <bad at vijya> but it wouldn't exactly work under a partition table because of how it works, for now anyways
L378[11:28:08] <bad at vijya> i have not tested zorya v2 yet as i don't have all the modules done yet
L379[11:28:55] <Izaya> I need to figure out a good way to connect inbound TCP connections to ocvm
L380[11:29:09] <Izaya> so I can have a continuously running PsychOS instance
L381[11:29:11] <Izaya> that would be interesting
L382[11:30:10] * Izaya hmms
L383[11:30:31] <Izaya> I have remote login over minitel
L384[11:31:56] <Izaya> the idea would be to write something that connects to the ocvm internal network and turns TCP connections - telnet probably - into minitel shell sessions
L385[11:33:19] <bad at vijya> so
L386[11:33:24] <bad at vijya> i had this plan for a tablet OS
L387[11:33:33] <bad at vijya> but first i need to finish the Tsuki kernel
L388[11:34:54] <bad at vijya> and then i can make a stripped down version of Zorya v2 which only acts as a safer BIOS and a layer of more advanced configuration for about any OS
L389[11:44:33] <bad at vijya> might also make a multi-user OS with Tsuki
L390[11:48:24] <bad at vijya> anyways
L391[11:49:06] <bad at vijya> i also threw in a virtual device module for Zorya v2, for any boot modules that might find it useful. currently, it's optional
L392[11:54:44] <bad at vijya> tbh
L393[11:54:50] <bad at vijya> zorya is completely overkill for openos
L394[11:54:58] <bad at vijya> unless you have like
L395[11:55:04] <bad at vijya> more than 1 openos install
L396[11:55:23] <bad at vijya> and even then, openboot exists
L397[11:55:24] <bad at vijya> lmao
L398[12:17:27] <AmandaC> Bios protection means nothing when you can just put the item in a crafting grid with a new eeprom and it'll swap it, bad
L399[12:19:39] <AmandaC> Unless you make the os verify it somehow
L400[12:19:50] <bad at vijya> fair, but you can't just easily overwrite it with le_random_script
L401[12:20:09] <bad at vijya> you'd have to be doing it intentionally
L402[12:22:00] <bad at vijya> also
L403[12:22:01] <bad at vijya> sadly
L404[12:22:11] <bad at vijya> i can't test my BIOS protection in a VM yet
L405[12:22:37] <AmandaC> why not?
L406[12:22:51] <AmandaC> ocvm supports custom eeproms, at lest
L407[12:23:37] <bad at vijya> because it uses the T3 data card
L408[12:23:44] <bad at vijya> or it just doesn't work
L409[12:23:52] <bad at vijya> and it's like "ay you can overwrite me"
L410[12:24:12] <bad at vijya> ***but it can verify the EEPROM**
L411[12:24:17] <bad at vijya> ***but it can verify the EEPROM*** [Edited]
L412[12:25:17] <bad at vijya> without the T3 data card
L413[12:25:18] <bad at vijya> that is
L414[12:28:54] <AmandaC> but it can/
L415[12:29:49] <bad at vijya> really? i tried ocvm and ocemu and neither supported the data card last time i checked
L416[12:30:02] <AmandaC> Pretty sure they do
L417[12:30:12] <bad at vijya> ocemu has the file but nothing in it
L418[12:30:31] <AmandaC> huh
L419[12:30:49] <Temia> To be fair, a specially-formulated EEPROM can enter a point in the code past the verification phase.
L420[12:30:49] <bad at vijya> ocvm doesn't even have a data component from what i'm looking at
L421[12:31:25] <Forecaster> %sip random
L422[12:31:26] <MichiBot> You drink a dull tomato potion (New!). Forecaster's skin turn the color of emerald.
L423[12:31:50] <Forecaster> ohno
L424[12:31:51] <AmandaC> oh, this was never merged: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/pull/14
L425[12:31:57] <bad at vijya> so to write to the EEPROM, you need to have a signed BIOS
L426[12:33:28] <bad at vijya> because, with a T3 data card installed, it overwrites the component library to prevent bios files without signatures from being written
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L429[12:37:56] <bad at vijya> while it doesn't prevent all unauthorized writes, as you can literally just boot with another EEPROM and overwrite it, it prevents any unintentional overwrites
L430[12:51:46] <Forecaster> It's probably quite hot here http://tinyurl.com/yx9w9k2y
L431[12:54:35] * AmandaC cuddles up around Temia, mewls softly
L432[12:55:03] <Forecaster> living on this planet might be a cat paradise
L433[12:55:06] <AmandaC> My mouth hurts, and the ibuprofen I took isn't helping
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L435[12:58:25] <payonel> another option is to use read-only floppies
L436[12:58:42] <payonel> hmm,....did i provide a way to programmatically determine the lock author of a RO floopy?
L437[12:58:46] <payonel> floopy :)
L438[12:58:47] <payonel> heh
L439[12:59:26] <Forecaster> if your floppy is floopy you need to see an IT-specialist
L440[12:59:56] <Temia> If your floppy is sloppy, don't be griffin
L441[13:00:07] <bad at vijya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248198333200465920/589137595393638413/1557588208786.webm
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L443[13:00:30] <bad at vijya> anyways, signing makes it so it's a bit less of a pia to update
L444[13:01:22] <AmandaC> ohai payonel
L445[13:03:00] <payonel> nope, i didn't add a method to get the lock identifier
L446[13:03:03] <payonel> should i do that?
L447[13:03:06] <payonel> AmandaC: hello :)
L448[13:03:50] <AmandaC> How're you doing this fine friday morning, payonel ?
L449[13:04:25] <bauen1> i don't think you can actually do a secure boot floppy / eeprom, since the bios can "sandbox" anything needed anyway
L450[13:04:43] <payonel> AmandaC: jealous of my children. today is their last day of school and i'd like to take the summer off as well
L451[13:04:59] <AmandaC> payonel: haha
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L453[13:05:12] <payonel> bauen1: you can also lock the eeprom
L454[13:05:25] <AmandaC> on the way back from the oral surgeon we got stuck behind a bus letting kids out of an apparent half-day for the final day of school
L455[13:05:35] <payonel> yep, half days here too
L456[13:05:48] <AmandaC> And I was like ".. great, soon the younglings will arrive around #oc"
L457[13:06:36] <bauen1> hm, so you could build a "secure boot" of sorts, but once some player has physical access, it can be broken
L458[13:07:16] <payonel> bauen1: yep
L459[13:07:35] <bad at vijya> i mean
L460[13:07:36] <AmandaC> payonel: what do you think of a data card in ocvm that doesns't actually do any crypto, just pretends to? Since immplementing custom crypto is a bad idea, but you're pretty adamant about no external deps, might be a decent middle-ground
L461[13:08:00] <bad at vijya> bauen1: isn't that basically like real like?
L462[13:08:26] <AmandaC> s/like/life
L463[13:08:26] <MichiBot> <bad at vijya> bauen1: isn't that basically life real like?
L464[13:08:26] <payonel> physical security is a prerequisite for all of this, else, who is to say the machine you think you're using is actually connected to the data you think is secure
L465[13:08:27] <AmandaC> I assume
L466[13:08:44] <baschdel> %tonkout
L467[13:08:44] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! baschdel! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 53 minutes and 32 seconds (By 3 hours, 14 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L468[13:08:45] <MichiBot> baschdel has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.17676
L469[13:08:50] <bauen1> not really, you can implement a secure boot that won't be breakable (today) by physical access using trusted platform modules
L470[13:08:54] <Ariri> Dammit
L471[13:08:59] <Ariri> I was just about to
L472[13:09:02] <AmandaC> The most secure crypto in the world won't save you from an FBI agent with an upside down compressed air can to your RAM
L473[13:09:09] <payonel> AmandaC: interesting idea! (also, 'adamant' is too heavy :P, just resistant)
L474[13:09:22] <bauen1> payonel: does the locking include the extra data of the eeprom ?
L475[13:09:26] <bad at vijya> fair, but i only have 4096 bytes of lua code
L476[13:09:41] <payonel> bauen1: what i'm saying is, if the physical machine is not secure, i could just swap the whole machine
L477[13:09:47] <AmandaC> payonel: maybe finding something with compatible licence and doing it in as a git submodule
L478[13:10:09] <payonel> bauen1: i'll have to check
L479[13:10:11] <bauen1> well, the player can check the ids of the components to verfiy the machine is the same lol
L480[13:10:30] <lopezt> i found my most favorite feature in lua
L481[13:10:39] <lopezt> there is division by zero possible
L482[13:10:49] <bad at vijya> mine is `setmetatable(_G, {__index=_G})`
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L484[13:11:26] <AmandaC> Izaya: if you're still alive, how much space does minitel take in the EEPROM, bare bones, just the networking stack? I'm considering over-complicating my base network by layering it ontop of minitel instead of `modem.broadcast`
L485[13:12:06] <payonel> bauen1: `setData` is allowed on readonly eeproms
L486[13:12:07] <bad at vijya> man i need to get a good PC to run server stuff on
L487[13:12:13] <bad at vijya> lmao
L488[13:12:31] <lopezt> what kind of pc do you have now?
L489[13:13:01] <bad at vijya> well, the best PC i have *free* is an old Inspiron 530 i gutted and rebuilt almost from the ground up
L490[13:13:07] <lopezt> in common server stuff is not really resource heavy, only if you want to do something special
L491[13:13:17] <bad at vijya> i mean an MC server
L492[13:13:19] <bad at vijya> with mods and all
L493[13:13:31] <lopezt> oh inspirion, its a trademark from beyond current age
L494[13:13:45] <bad at vijya> the sob only has 8GB of RAM and 3GHz Q6600
L495[13:13:55] <AmandaC> damn
L496[13:14:07] <lopezt> i have a 16gb ram server, but when i run mc on it the problem is hte cpu
L497[13:14:07] <AmandaC> wait
L498[13:14:21] <AmandaC> ... isn't the EEPROM mac size 4096 bytes?
L499[13:14:28] <AmandaC> s/mac/max/
L500[13:14:28] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> ... isn't the EEPROM max size 4096 bytes?
L501[13:14:33] <bad at vijya> and the OEM motherboard
L502[13:14:34] <bad at vijya> so
L503[13:14:44] <bad at vijya> AmandaC: without changing config, yeah
L504[13:14:57] <bauen1> i've an r710 with 72gb ram and 24 threads :D
L505[13:15:00] <bad at vijya> iirc, Zorya v2's EEPROM component is 4066 bytes
L506[13:15:05] <AmandaC> `4237 ./eeprom/custom/hb-pxe.lua` How the fuck has this been working, though
L507[13:15:14] <AmandaC> s/though/then/
L508[13:15:14] <lopezt> bad at vija: so you have a mc server in your lan?
L509[13:15:14] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> `4237 ./eeprom/custom/hb-pxe.lua` How the fuck has this been working, then
L510[13:15:23] <bauen1> draws a nice 100W minimum
L511[13:15:38] <Ariri> what are the slashes for
L512[13:15:39] <bad at vijya> lopezt: yes/no, i would if it fucking worked
L513[13:15:46] <lopezt> bauen1: where you from?
L514[13:16:05] <bad at vijya> i wish i had one of those dual xeon systems tbh
L515[13:16:11] <AmandaC> @Ariri what slashes?
L516[13:16:13] <bad at vijya> those dell workstation PCs
L517[13:16:21] <bauen1> germany
L518[13:16:23] <lopezt> 8gb ram is enough for a server, but the cpu needs to be strong
L519[13:16:29] <bauen1> power here costs 0.35€/kWh
L520[13:16:29] <lopezt> ah das habe ich mir gedacht ^^
L521[13:16:36] <Ariri> the word/word2/word3 thing that Michi replies to
L522[13:16:45] <bad at vijya> i'd throw a fuckton of RAM into it and some higher end LGA771 xeons and call it a day
L523[13:16:47] <Ariri> i get sometimes their jokes but this one is diff
L524[13:16:59] <AmandaC> oh, the s/foo/bar?
L525[13:17:05] <AmandaC> That's sed syntax for "replace foo with bar"
L526[13:17:09] <bad at vijya> the s/foo/bar se--
L527[13:17:11] <bad at vijya> yeah
L528[13:17:11] <Forecaster> why do you think it's a joke...
L529[13:17:19] * payonel throws a closing / at everyone
L530[13:17:21] <AmandaC> It's for making corrections
L531[13:17:37] <Ariri> oh
L532[13:17:41] <AmandaC> payonel: I've given up that fight, tbh. MichiBot doesn't handle it right, I don't think, so I stopped trying
L533[13:17:46] <AdorableCatgirl> s/oh/oh yeah/
L534[13:17:48] <MichiBot> <Ariri> oh yeah
L535[13:17:51] <AmandaC> oh, huh
L536[13:17:58] <Ariri> huh
L537[13:18:02] <Ariri> interesting
L538[13:18:09] <AdorableCatgirl> s/interesting/uwu
L539[13:18:10] <MichiBot> <Ariri> uwu
L540[13:18:11] <AmandaC> discord supports it too, I think
L541[13:18:14] <Ariri> very interesting [Edited]
L542[13:18:27] <Ariri> it just deleted it
L543[13:18:27] <Forecaster> discord has it's own
L544[13:18:37] <Ariri> or never sent
L545[13:18:39] <payonel> @Ariri also, edits in discord are just repeated lines in irc
L546[13:18:44] <AmandaC> If you want to trigger it for MichiBot though you need to do `%s/foo/bar`
L547[13:18:45] <payonel> we dont actually get "edits" per se
L548[13:18:48] <Ariri> ye ik
L549[13:18:51] <Forecaster> if you want to use michibot's from discord you have to do %s/foo/bar
L550[13:18:53] <Ariri> oh
L551[13:19:03] <Ariri> %s/oh/oh i see
L552[13:19:03] <MichiBot> <Ariri> oh i see
L553[13:19:16] <Ariri> i think i get it
L554[13:19:28] <Forecaster> but discord edits are better because they result in a total of two lines, instead of three :P
L555[13:19:37] <Ariri> :)
L556[13:19:39] <Forecaster> but you can only edit your own messages with that of course
L557[13:19:41] <bad at vijya> discord
L558[13:19:48] <bad at vijya> discord uwu [Edited]
L559[13:19:52] <Forecaster> michibot tries it on anyone's
L560[13:19:52] <bad at vijya> discord uwu uwu [Edited]
L561[13:19:52] <Ariri> xd
L562[13:19:56] <bad at vijya> discord uwu uwu uwu [Edited]
L563[13:20:02] <AdorableCatgirl> but you can do that
L564[13:20:17] <AmandaC> payonel: have I ever told you about some random mac client for IRC that actually hides s/foo/bar messages and just edits the history? It was rather amusing when that was discovered, because it didn't care who did the command, it just replaced it and didn't give any indication to the user at all.
L565[13:20:20] <AdorableCatgirl> just edit a message a bunch of times
L566[13:20:20] <Forecaster> if you want to be deliberately obnoxious sure
L567[13:20:34] <Ariri> nuh
L568[13:20:38] <Ariri> nu [Edited]
L569[13:20:39] <Ariri> n [Edited]
L570[13:20:44] <Forecaster> but only stupid people do that
L571[13:20:56] <Ariri> http://tinyurl.com/y44fybhl
L572[13:20:59] <Ariri> i see 3 lines too
L573[13:21:01] <AdorableCatgirl> s/stupid people/people like AC
L574[13:21:03] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> but only people like AC do that
L575[13:21:13] <Ariri> haha
L576[13:21:24] <payonel> AmandaC: /facepalm :)
L577[13:21:56] <AdorableCatgirl> i am literally the elon musk of bad ideas
L578[13:22:15] <Forecaster> Elon musk has bad ideas
L579[13:22:21] <AmandaC> payonel: I've not used such a client, but in a channel where there was an ongoing s// joke editing of a message going on, someone was very confused about why the message kept changing
L580[13:22:31] <Ariri> %s/bad ideas/great ideas
L581[13:22:31] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> Elon musk has great ideas
L582[13:22:41] <Ariri> heheh
L583[13:22:54] <AmandaC> %bap @Ariri
L584[13:22:54] * MichiBot baps @Ariri with Zelda's voice
L585[13:23:01] <AmandaC> hey wait, she needs that!
L586[13:23:04] <Ariri> *Hiyeh!*
L587[13:23:08] <AmandaC> ...
L588[13:23:16] <AmandaC> Y... you... that was a joke, right?
L589[13:23:21] <Ariri> yes
L590[13:23:33] <AdorableCatgirl> elon musk has the greatest ideas
L591[13:23:42] <Ariri> indeed
L592[13:23:43] <AdorableCatgirl> i want to send a car to mars too
L593[13:23:44] <Forecaster> sure he does
L594[13:23:53] <Ariri> i want gm catgirls
L595[13:23:54] <Ariri> oh
L596[13:23:55] <Ariri> that too
L597[13:24:30] <Forecaster> I'm more talking about the huge vacuum tube thing
L598[13:24:40] <AdorableCatgirl> https://youtu.be/c2gq4IwIc_s?t=47
L599[13:24:41] <MichiBot> A Robot That Picks Tomatoes Out of Your Salad | length: 11m 37s | Likes: 187,808 Dislikes: 2,601 Views: 2,787,562 | by Michael Reeves | Published On 6/3/2019
L600[13:24:48] <AdorableCatgirl> tl;dr i steal jokes
L601[13:24:53] <Ariri> the what now?
L602[13:25:03] <Forecaster> the Hyper Loop
L603[13:25:23] <AmandaC> %8ball should I put gauze in my mouth and hope the bloodclots survive my subconcisiousness this time?
L604[13:25:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L605[13:25:29] <AmandaC> okay
L606[13:25:33] <bad at vijya> ok
L607[13:25:35] <Ariri> Oral surgery?
L608[13:25:37] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
L609[13:25:47] <bad at vijya> AdorableCatgirl: ok
L610[13:25:51] <Ariri> oh^
L611[13:25:52] <Ariri> thats working well so far wdym
L612[13:25:58] <AmandaC> @Ariri yup, some guy injected my mouth with needles then stole two teeth while I couldn't feelit happening.
L613[13:26:07] <AdorableCatgirl> <@175686996461617162> ok
L614[13:26:09] <Ariri> just did that too haha
L615[13:26:11] <AmandaC> And he got PAID for this
L616[13:26:16] <Ariri> finished my meds yesterday
L617[13:26:17] <Ariri> righttt
L618[13:26:21] <Ariri> i gave them 4
L619[13:26:26] <Ariri> sm
L620[13:26:28] <Ariri> smh
L621[13:26:29] <bad at vijya> AdorableCatgirl: ok
L622[13:26:31] <AdorableCatgirl> <@175686996461617162>
L623[13:26:34] <bad at vijya> FUCK
L624[13:26:37] <Forecaster> as far as I'm aware they've pretty much abandoned the whole vacuum thing and are now at "underground car tunnels" or something
L625[13:26:42] <bad at vijya> i ruined my joke
L626[13:26:55] <bad at vijya> when can we get cheap trains here in murica smh
L627[13:27:10] <AmandaC> @"bad at vijya" in the 1800s
L628[13:27:23] <Ariri> Gauze will help for when it the bleeding stops but after it did i just watched some tv and went to sleep lol
L629[13:27:30] <Ariri> it was a lot easir
L630[13:27:31] <AmandaC> the automotive industry has the government by the balls now, it'll never happen again here
L631[13:27:37] <AdorableCatgirl> My name is Aleksandr Sokolov. I thought I was safe. As a watchmaker's apprentice I would learn the business and open a shop of my own. Maybe get married, have children, start a life. But now, our cities are under attack, and Stalingrad will put an end to those dreams. We should have known the Germans would turn on us, break the treaty. They have no honor. The commissars rounded us up so quickly,
L632[13:27:43] <AdorableCatgirl> speaking of the Motherland, the sacrifices of our brothers, our duty. I am only 20, but I am ready to fight to the death. The sight of my home Stalingrad infuriates me. It is as if Hell itself were burning.
L633[13:27:47] <AdorableCatgirl> wrong chat oops
L634[13:28:02] <Ariri> uh
L635[13:28:12] <AmandaC> ... that reads a lotlike something that'd come out of the new watchdogs game
L636[13:28:17] <Ariri> ^
L637[13:28:32] <Ariri> Or maybe with the Chinese [redacted]
L638[13:28:42] <AmandaC> Also, I love that they're making brexit the inciting incident for london going to shit
L639[13:28:45] <AdorableCatgirl> it came from an old call of duty game
L640[13:29:00] <Kodos> %tonk
L641[13:29:01] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Kodos! You beat baschdel's previous record of <0 (By 20 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L642[13:29:02] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 20 minutes and 16 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00034 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L643[13:29:17] <AmandaC> It sure was nice of Ubisoft to tell me about my present for next year!
L644[13:29:33] <AmandaC> ( My birthday is the the 7th of march, WD3 comes out the 6th )
L645[13:29:46] <Ariri> Wait fr
L646[13:29:49] <Ariri> theres a WD3
L647[13:29:54] <Forecaster> somone needs to be fired for getting the date wrong by one day
L648[13:30:01] <Forecaster> no
L649[13:30:08] <Forecaster> but there will be, on the 7th of march
L650[13:30:15] <Ariri> i mean that
L651[13:30:16] <Ariri> yesss
L652[13:30:17] <Forecaster> I mean 6th
L653[13:30:19] <Ariri> gonna cop
L654[13:30:23] <Forecaster> it's set in london
L655[13:31:14] <AmandaC> @Ariri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIe3M1_Bu-Y
L656[13:31:14] <MichiBot> Watch Dogs: Legion: E3 2019 Gameplay Walkthrough | Ubisoft [NA] | length: 11m 6s | Likes: 20,358 Dislikes: 1,147 Views: 594,852 | by Ubisoft North America | Published On 10/6/2019
L657[13:31:47] <Forecaster> WD2 was great
L658[13:31:54] <Forecaster> I hope WD3 lives up to it
L659[13:31:55] <AmandaC> I should play more of WD2
L660[13:32:01] <Forecaster> or surpasses it
L661[13:32:04] <Forecaster> I wish I could
L662[13:32:04] <Ariri> Yeah same, i need to get it
L663[13:32:08] <AmandaC> I got up to the point where you hack the sattelite networks
L664[13:32:08] <Ariri> damn this looks good
L665[13:32:11] <Forecaster> it stopped working just after I finished it...
L666[13:32:15] <Forecaster> it wont start anymore
L667[13:32:18] <AmandaC> lame
L668[13:32:33] <Ariri> i can finally play on my desktop :)
L669[13:32:40] <Forecaster> I'm glad it was after... I'd just finished my letsplay
L670[13:32:42] <Ariri> had to play WD1 on my xbox
L671[13:32:59] <Forecaster> would've sucked it it broke before I'd finished the series
L672[13:33:05] <AmandaC> heh
L673[13:33:06] <Ariri> tbh i like the wd1 huf
L674[13:33:07] <Ariri> tbh i like the wd1 hud [Edited]
L675[13:33:09] <Forecaster> would've sucked if it broke before I'd finished the series [Edited]
L676[13:33:29] <bad at vijya> http://tinyurl.com/y25mppn3
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L678[13:37:52] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/UA0o25P.png
L679[13:37:52] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/g8gresK.png
L680[13:37:52] <Ariri> I cannot design characters at all someone help
L681[13:38:01] <bad at vijya> wot
L682[13:38:13] <MGR> Did you draw those, or is that your character that someone else drew?
L683[13:38:18] <Ariri> no its a game
L684[13:38:37] <MGR> Oh, ok
L685[13:38:44] <MGR> Which game?
L686[13:38:51] <Ariri> KurtzPel
L687[13:39:01] <Ariri> free on steam so i thought id give it a look
L688[13:39:14] <Ariri> lost all the ppl who i used to play tera with
L689[13:39:37] <Ariri> anyone have ideas for her hair color or style
L690[13:39:41] <Ariri> bc this is so generic
L691[13:40:47] <MGR> Silver hair is cool
L692[13:41:41] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/Ei1ewKx.png dunno if it works
L693[13:42:24] <bad at vijya> so i was looking through an old discord PM convo and found this http://tinyurl.com/y646pa3j
L694[13:42:36] <bad at vijya> ***[muffled eurobeat in the distance]***
L695[13:42:58] <Ariri> haha
L696[13:43:14] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L697[13:43:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L698[13:43:46] <Zef> What mod is that?
L699[13:43:53] <Zef> I've seen that screenshot before
L700[13:43:55] <bad at vijya> i don't remember tbh
L701[13:44:00] <bad at vijya> i might have posted it here
L702[13:44:14] <Forecaster> traincraft
L703[13:44:31] <Zef> oo I'm gonna have to try that
L704[13:48:40] <bad at vijya> evertime i play gta online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pww4yVPvNfE
L705[13:48:41] <MichiBot> MAXI COVERI - RUNNING IN THE 90S - SHITTYFLUTED | length: 4m 20s | Likes: 26,580 Dislikes: 248 Views: 764,964 | by shittyflute | Published On 18/1/2017
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L707[13:51:16] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L708[14:00:44] <Forecaster> you know what's even better? when the containers roll out of the square on their own after spawning
L709[14:02:15] <Ariri> oof
L710[14:02:40] <Forecaster> 5/7 storage method for illicit goods
L711[14:02:44] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/iVcSrSk.png dyed tips on just one piece or not at all cant decide
L712[14:03:43] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/QfHJ1a9.png
L713[14:06:50] <Bob> events when there are alot get pushed in a queue right ?
L714[14:06:57] <Bob> but how i can not use events from that queue
L715[14:07:09] <Bob> but pull events that like are happening when the program works normally
L716[14:09:05] <AmandaC> events are always in a queue
L717[14:09:20] <Bob> can i clear it
L718[14:09:23] <Bob> or not use the queue thing
L719[14:09:27] <AmandaC> no
L720[14:10:28] <AmandaC> what are you trying to do?
L721[14:10:53] <AmandaC> Because it feels like this applies: http://xyproblem.info/
L722[14:11:07] <Forecaster> accidentally submitted to an interdiction... http://tinyurl.com/y49bmvxs
L723[14:11:07] <Forecaster> almost went badly
L724[14:11:18] <Ariri> uh oh
L725[14:11:46] <Forecaster> was just able to get out of weapons range by boosting constantly....
L726[14:12:43] <Forecaster> wasn't able to enter super cruise while close either because even to another anaconda an anaconda inhibits at a factor of like 23
L727[14:13:45] <Ariri> oof yeah hate that
L728[14:14:00] <Ariri> i did a high level black box retrieve and got annihalated
L729[14:14:11] <Ariri> couldnt jump out
L730[14:14:56] <Forecaster> I don't know why I'm doing this in this ship... I should be using a smaller one
L731[14:15:19] <Ariri> I kept my Cobra Mk3 but never use it for some reason
L732[14:15:19] <Forecaster> I accepted like 10 of these planetary retrieval missions
L733[14:15:26] <Ariri> wow
L734[14:15:47] <Forecaster> okay, exactly 10, apparently
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L736[14:23:43] <Inari> .
L737[14:23:57] <payonel> %tell Inari HELLO
L738[14:23:59] <MichiBot> payonel: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L740[14:37:51] <AmandaC> %8ball halucinate?
L741[14:37:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L742[14:52:14] <Inari> .
L743[14:52:16] <Inari> payonel: :P
L744[14:59:20] <CompanionCube> %$tonk
L745[14:59:24] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L746[14:59:24] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! CompanionCube! You beat Kodos's previous record of 20 minutes and 16 seconds (By 1 hour, 10 minutes and 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L747[14:59:25] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 1 hour, 30 minutes and 23 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00117 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L748[15:06:43] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y6py8uob
L749[15:06:59] <Bob> AmandaC like this, when you spam a button, events get queued and i dont want that
L750[15:15:49] <AmandaC> @Bob you can store a time of when you last handled one, and bail early if it's not after, for example, a second.
L751[15:16:00] <AmandaC> but what's the problem with people entering things quickly?
L752[15:16:58] <Bob> Nothing really, but i would like to remove the event queue for the page switch
L753[15:17:14] <Bob> pages being randomized after each valid and unvalid entered password
L754[15:19:36] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84o2BaXYjg&t=1m16s the heck am I watching
L755[15:19:36] <MichiBot> Kappa Transformation | Saranzanmai | length: 2m 35s | Likes: 2,055 Dislikes: 107 Views: 96,323 | by Crunchyroll Collection | Published On 12/4/2019
L756[15:25:42] <AmandaC> Inari: three children getting eaten by a statue of a kappa then shat out as kappas, If thta's the clip I think it is
L757[15:26:15] <Inari> AmandaC: it is
L758[15:26:33] <Inari> AmandaC: You forgot to mention the butt sucking though
L759[15:26:41] <Inari> And the kappa making odd moans while shitting them out
L760[15:26:42] <Inari> :p
L761[15:28:59] <Forecaster> 9 missions later, from 1% to 7%
L762[15:29:00] <Forecaster> woo
L763[15:30:46] <Inari> @Forecaster Meow?
L764[15:31:31] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yxfslzj4
L765[15:36:43] <Inari> Nice
L766[15:38:11] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, are you around?
L767[15:40:34] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, perhaps I'm asquare
L768[15:40:45] <Inari> xD
L769[15:40:51] <Forecaster> arombus
L770[15:40:58] <Vexatos> rhombus*
L771[15:41:06] <Inari> Don't touch his rhombus
L772[15:41:16] <ben_mkiv> so i'm working with "Value" machine api
L773[15:41:28] <ben_mkiv> you know that stuff to give back methods in lua oc methods
L774[15:43:52] <ben_mkiv> http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=8611cfd777be0138299df4802002f4da
L775[15:44:18] <ben_mkiv> i want something like g.widgets().widget1.addScale() instead of g.widgets().widget1().addScale()
L776[15:45:30] <ben_mkiv> but not to run the code which deploys them when g.widgets() is called
L777[15:45:38] <ben_mkiv> but when g.widgets().widget1 gets accessed
L778[15:45:45] <ben_mkiv> probably impossible... right? xD
L779[15:46:44] <ben_mkiv> sorry, guess its hard to twist the head around that without all the context :/
L780[15:47:11] <Forecaster> you mean twist your rhombus around it
L781[15:58:48] <Bob> OpenGoggles ?
L782[16:01:44] <Inari> The moon is pretty tonight
L783[16:05:43] <ben_mkiv> Glasses
L784[16:07:01] <Bob> Oh ye
L785[16:07:05] <Bob> seems like a cool mod
L786[16:07:15] <Bob> Should try
L787[16:07:30] <ben_mkiv> should wait
L788[16:07:39] <ben_mkiv> probably push a new version within the weekend
L789[16:08:04] <Bob> I wont try it until next week
L790[16:08:16] <Bob> exams :p
L791[16:35:17] <Totoro> hi
L792[16:35:25] <Totoro> there is something wrong with https://ocdoc.cil.li/ cert
L793[16:35:35] <Totoro> Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN
L794[16:35:45] <Totoro> something related to the cert domain
L795[16:35:51] <Forecaster> @Lizzian
L796[16:36:09] <Bob> Lizzy
L797[16:36:21] <Lizzy> @Sangar your shit's fucked again
L798[16:36:33] <Bob> Totoro you should still eb able to continue to acces the site despite the certification stuff being invalid
L799[16:36:58] <Totoro> yeah, I can `accept the risk and continue` as firefox suggests
L800[16:37:05] <Lizzy> (note, I only have direct access to "oc.cil.li", any of the other cil.li domains are run by Sangar
L801[16:44:55] <Bob> Okay good to know
L802[16:46:17] <Inari> %blame Snagar
L803[16:46:18] * MichiBot blames Snagar for running being exhausting
L804[16:50:02] <ben_mkiv> %blame Inrai
L805[16:50:02] * MichiBot blames Inrai for running being exhausting
L806[16:50:26] <Inari> Top-tier RNG tonight
L807[16:50:36] <ben_mkiv> best of the best
L808[16:51:00] <ben_mkiv> %blame forecaster for RNG
L809[16:51:01] * MichiBot blames forecaster for RNG for space being cold!
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L811[17:01:12] <Ariri> %tonk
L812[17:01:13] <MichiBot> By my throth! Ariri! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 1 hour, 30 minutes and 23 seconds (By 31 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L813[17:01:14] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 2 hours, 1 minute and 48 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00104 (0.00052 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L816[17:32:25] <scj643> https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/c0pnx0/tifu_by_removing_data_on_a_drive/
L817[18:26:14] <simon816> rip
L818[18:53:20] <Brisingr Aerowing> Ouch.
L819[18:57:16] <Ariri> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)
L820[18:57:16] <Ariri> is this usually memory or background process interference
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L822[19:17:38] <AmandaC> Izaya: Any hints why this seems to be hanging? https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/minitel-lilac/lilac/client/kitten-os/apps/svc-lilac.lua#L364
L823[19:29:08] <AmandaC> Izaya: like, if I check the logs, I can see that a) lilac-ocvm received it and sent a reply back, and b) svc-lilac (in a receiver coroutine) received the reply. But the -- wait.
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L825[19:34:08] <AmandaC> Izaya: figured it out. The IPC weirdness because of how the minitel lib uses the event pump, but the event pump in question won't be the sameone as the IPC call will be run through
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L827[19:40:39] <AmandaC> Right, somehow today flew right by
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L830[19:57:38] <lopezt> AmandaC: you do rpc calls with the minitel lib?
L831[20:34:47] <bad at vijya> new windows 10 update broke hammer
L832[20:34:49] <bad at vijya> and explorer
L833[20:34:53] <bad at vijya> and basically everything else
L834[20:34:57] <bad at vijya> tl;dr fuck windows 10
L835[20:34:59] <CompanionCube> lolwut?
L836[20:35:48] <lopezt> why you using windows?
L837[20:35:56] <lopezt> i only use windows for gaming
L838[20:36:05] <lopezt> so the machin is calle my wintendo
L839[20:37:19] <bad at vijya> i use it for vijya
L840[20:37:27] <bad at vijya> And Source SDK shit
L841[20:41:20] <lopezt> what is viya?
L842[20:41:57] <AmandaC> lopezt: I'm converting my base to use it, yeah. It originally just used modem.broadcast, but I wanted something smarter for my newer plans
L843[20:44:40] <lopezt> AmandaC: what is minitel using to network? tcp socket?
L844[20:45:32] <AmandaC> lopezt: modems or tunnels
L845[20:45:59] <AmandaC> But it'll route messages around, aiui
L846[20:46:12] <AmandaC> Izaya: would know better, since he made it
L847[20:46:23] <Izaya> ey
L848[20:46:52] <AmandaC> Ohai izaya
L849[20:47:01] <Izaya> minitel does flood routing using modem.broadcase unless it knows the path, in which case it uses send
L850[20:47:34] <AmandaC> Does it learn paths?
L851[20:47:46] <Izaya> only temporarily
L852[20:48:01] <Izaya> tunnels are also supported, and there's software to have a virtual tunnel over the internet using a TCP socket, for bridging between servers
L853[20:48:07] <bad at vijya> @lopezt#0000 video gamea
L854[20:48:15] <bad at vijya> Vijya gaymes
L855[20:48:34] <bad at vijya> Man i'm dumb, trying to ping tbr bot
L856[20:48:37] <bad at vijya> *the
L857[20:49:55] <AmandaC> Are you aware of any reason an initial connection would fail with the kittenos impl? It seems I need to launch a lilac program, exit, then launch it again to get a connection. Might have something to do with bootup?
L858[20:50:44] <Izaya> That's unusual, socket connection?
L859[20:50:49] <AmandaC> Yup
L860[20:51:01] <AmandaC> Though thinking on it it might be more event pump confusion
L861[20:51:17] <Izaya> The KOS impl is a little weird because I don't really have fs access and it doesn't really use events
L862[20:52:19] <AmandaC> I had to make an outbox coroutine to fix the hang I was seeing
L863[20:55:20] <AmandaC> Also
L864[20:55:37] <AmandaC> Icecap provides sandboxed fs access
L865[20:56:05] <AmandaC> Look for settings.lua in the file I linkedz you'll see how lilac handles it's config
L866[20:56:09] <Izaya> yeah you get a little app dir
L867[20:56:20] <Izaya> I need to do that eventually(tm)
L868[20:57:48] <AmandaC> I think a lot of the problem is you tried to lift-and-shift the openos impl, when Kos treats events in a different way.
L869[20:58:19] <AmandaC> Kos feels more event driven than openos does
L870[20:58:27] <Izaya> Aye
L871[20:58:55] <Izaya> But at the same time, maintaining different versions is easy if they're almost the same
L872[20:59:15] <Izaya> Though I've made two changes to the core daemon in a year so ???
L873[20:59:40] <AmandaC> True, but if the base protocol is stable, there's not much risk in specialized ones
L874[21:00:09] <Izaya> Right
L875[21:00:48] <AmandaC> I say as someone who needs to change 3 different systems now that I decided to use minitel + lilac
L876[21:22:40] <AmandaC> Izaya: oh also, the makefile at the root of that branch might be Relevant to your Interests
L877[21:23:01] <Izaya> Hm?
L878[21:23:44] <AmandaC> Izaya: a rule to run any Target named (foo).mini.lua though your minifier with the source of (foo).lua
L879[21:24:36] <AmandaC> That + another rule for the cat means I can build microtel with just two rules
L880[21:25:00] <Izaya> Ooooo
L881[21:25:35] <Izaya> I just have all that stuff in minify-all
L882[21:26:37] <AmandaC> Yup, but with this you can just specify what files you need and copy-paste the cat commands and it'll build it all and minify it
L883[21:27:28] <AmandaC> % targets, $@, and $< are probably the most useful pieces of make voodoo I know
L884[21:31:34] <AmandaC> S/cat commands/generic cat commands/
L885[21:32:40] <AmandaC> The same couple of commands are used for building microtel and v2 of my pxe (which I've not actually started building yet)
L886[21:33:42] <AmandaC> Anyways, I'm going to try this new fad called sleep out I think. Night nerds
L887[21:38:39] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/QmcjXnX.png
L888[21:38:49] <Ariri> another base gone lol
L889[21:39:49] <Izaya> o7
L890[21:39:54] <Izaya> AmandaC: hey
L891[21:40:04] <Izaya> Embedded/nbcore.lua
L892[21:40:15] <Izaya> or rather mini-nbcore.lua
L893[21:40:30] <Izaya> downloads a filesystem tree from an FRequest server
L894[21:49:40] <AmandaC> Izaya: one of the big things I like with my system is I can reassign stuff on the fly. It actually takes advantage of this to update the pxe eeprom itself if it's out of date
L895[21:49:58] <Izaya> oh fair enough, neat
L896[21:50:13] <AmandaC> But I'm thinking of replacing my fileserver rpc module with frequest
L897[21:50:31] <Izaya> there's a fun idea: as well as booting from it, allow updating the EEPROM remotely
L898[21:51:28] * Izaya adds that to the 90000 long list
L899[21:51:51] <AmandaC> I've got a program that combined with my PR, can scan a computer or microcontroller to assign a different pxe image
L900[21:52:36] <AmandaC> And change the simulated data partition as well
L901[21:52:56] <AmandaC> Anyways, socal feeds consumed, bed time for real now
L902[21:54:17] <Izaya> been meaning to write a custom FRequest server
L903[21:54:26] <Izaya> one that supports uploading
L904[21:54:46] <Izaya> so I can upload a filesystem back to the server on shutdown for diskless workstations
L905[22:01:28] <CompanionCube> %ton
L906[22:01:31] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L907[22:01:32] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! CompanionCube! You beat Ariri's previous record of 2 hours, 1 minute and 48 seconds (By 2 hours, 58 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L908[22:01:33] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 5 hours and 18 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00891 (0.00297 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L911[22:05:29] <Ariri> h3ck
L912[23:07:00] <payonel> anyone speak portuguese ?
L913[23:20:09] <Ariri> Yes
L914[23:20:09] <Ariri> I have translate
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L916[23:42:08] <Lizzy> %choose msi or msi or xps 13 or xps15
L917[23:42:09] <MichiBot> Lizzy: I spy with my robotic eye something beginning with "msi"!
L918[23:42:12] <Lizzy> ok
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