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<Ariri> am
ded
<Ariri> am
dedL8[03:03:17] <Forecaster>
%tonkout
<Forecaster>
%tonkoutL9[03:03:18] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 5 hours and
18 seconds (By 1 minute and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L10[03:03:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.57831
L11[03:03:34] <Ariri>
FRICK
<Ariri>
FRICKL12[03:03:57] <Ariri> Ive
been waiting for two hours now...
<Ariri> Ive
been waiting for two hours now...L13[03:04:49] <Ariri>
while working
<Ariri>
while workingL14[03:04:50] <Ariri>
eh
<Ariri>
ehL15[03:05:12] <Forecaster>
meep meep
<Forecaster>
meep meepL16[03:06:21] <Ariri>
really did me like that huh
<Ariri>
really did me like that huhL17[03:11:58] <payonel> AmandaC: you
around?
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L19[03:18:32] <Bob> can we
push multiple commands to a debug card so we can execute multiple
commands a tick ?
<Bob> can we
push multiple commands to a debug card so we can execute multiple
commands a tick ?L20[03:19:05] <Forecaster>
doubt it
<Forecaster>
doubt itL21[03:19:46] <Forecaster>
actually, if there's a way to do that in a command block the debug
card can probably do it that way too
<Forecaster>
actually, if there's a way to do that in a command block the debug
card can probably do it that way tooL22[03:20:05] <Bob> Yea ik
i can call a command block chain
<Bob> Yea ik
i can call a command block chainL23[03:20:16] <Bob> but
what is the debug card for then
<Bob> but
what is the debug card for thenL24[03:20:36] <Bob> time
to suggest to git ?
<Bob> time
to suggest to git ?L25[03:37:49] <Forecaster>
okay no, it's one command per command block, so only one command
per call
<Forecaster>
okay no, it's one command per command block, so only one command
per callL26[03:38:05] <Forecaster>
I thought there was a way to run multiple commands in one block but
it was just the falling sand thing
<Forecaster>
I thought there was a way to run multiple commands in one block but
it was just the falling sand thingL27[03:38:55] <Bob>
@Forecaster new chainned comand blocks, when you strike a command
block, all its following chain command block strike aswell the same
tick
<Bob>
@Forecaster new chainned comand blocks, when you strike a command
block, all its following chain command block strike aswell the same
tickL28[03:39:27] <Forecaster>
I'm aware how command blocks work
<Forecaster>
I'm aware how command blocks workL29[03:39:44] <Bob> I
would need like a debug.commandMultiple
<Bob> I
would need like a debug.commandMultipleL30[03:39:45] <Bob> or
debug.runCommand("1\n2\n3")
<Bob> or
debug.runCommand("1\n2\n3")L31[03:40:04] <Forecaster>
I don't think that's gonna happen
<Forecaster>
I don't think that's gonna happenL32[03:42:20] <Bob>
Rip
<Bob>
RipL34[03:42:43] <Bob> Look
as i slowly take over #oc
<Bob> Look
as i slowly take over #ocL35[03:44:01] <Forecaster>
but your tonk rank is only 47
<Forecaster>
but your tonk rank is only 47L36[03:48:43] <Bob>
:GWlulurdMmmYea: not anymore
<Bob>
:GWlulurdMmmYea: not anymoreL37[03:49:04] <Bob> as i
type in tonk, someone enters it before
<Bob> as i
type in tonk, someone enters it beforeL38[03:50:39] <Forecaster>
what
<Forecaster>
whatL39[03:50:43] <Bob>
%tonk
<Bob>
%tonkL40[03:50:45] <MichiBot> Fudge! Bob! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 47 minutes and 25
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L41[03:50:46] <MichiBot> Bob's new record
is 47 minutes and 25 seconds! Bob also gained 0.00079 tonk points
for stealing the tonk.
L42[03:50:58] <Bob>
here
<Bob>
hereL43[03:51:12] <Forecaster>
I mean you are in place 47
<Forecaster>
I mean you are in place 47L44[03:51:15] <Forecaster>
that's really low
<Forecaster>
that's really lowL45[03:51:43] <Forecaster>
well, now you went up to 36
<Forecaster>
well, now you went up to 36L46[03:54:56] <Bob>
Easy
<Bob>
EasyL47[03:57:20] <payonel> @Bob what do you
mean "catchup" ?
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L50[04:07:29] <Bob> Well
debug card can't execute a big batch of commands at once
<Bob> Well
debug card can't execute a big batch of commands at onceL51[04:07:43] <Bob> i know
i can use a loop with multiple statements
<Bob> i know
i can use a loop with multiple statementsL52[04:07:58] <Inari> payonel:
ketchup
L53[04:07:58] <Bob> but it
probably will go to the next tick
<Bob> but it
probably will go to the next tickL54[04:16:52] <payonel> %give Inari
katsup
L55[04:16:53] *
MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't
find anything..."
L56[04:17:10] <Forecaster>
foxsup
<Forecaster>
foxsupL57[04:17:24] <payonel> @Bob it's a weird
way of stating that in the ticket
L58[04:17:42] <payonel> what does that have
to do with catching up with vanilla cmd blocks?
L59[04:19:33] <payonel> anyways, i updated
your ticket
L60[04:20:07] <payonel> %drink
L61[04:20:07] <MichiBot> Drink what?
L62[04:20:14] <payonel> %random drink
L63[04:20:17] <payonel> :(
L64[04:20:20] <payonel> %potion
L65[04:20:20] <MichiBot> payonel: You get a
soft bavarium potion (New!)
L66[04:20:24] <Forecaster>
the other way
<Forecaster>
the other wayL67[04:20:25] <payonel> %drink ^
L68[04:20:25] <MichiBot> Gravity reverses
for payonel for a second.
L69[04:20:26] <Forecaster>
...
<Forecaster>
...L70[04:21:06] <payonel> i'm laying in bed
atm, and i have a rather high ceiling, so that would actually be
quite terrifying, but harmless
L71[04:21:36] <Forecaster>
one second is not enough time to actually accelerate anywhere
<Forecaster>
one second is not enough time to actually accelerate anywhereL72[04:21:54] <Forecaster>
you'd feel like being pulled upwards briefly, then released
<Forecaster>
you'd feel like being pulled upwards briefly, then releasedL73[04:22:36] <payonel> ??!? sure it
is!
L74[04:22:43] <payonel> i would have gone
up ~5m into the air
L75[04:26:28] <Forecaster>
oh, yeah you're right
<Forecaster>
oh, yeah you're rightL76[04:27:41] <Inari> Gravity be
strong
L78[04:31:44] <MichiBot> The Amazing
Marble Race 5 | length: 24m 53s | Likes: 8,809 Dislikes: 2,186 Views: 1,674,576 | by John
Dubuc | Published On 3/12/2017
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L80[05:03:42] <bauen1> %tonk
L81[05:03:43] <MichiBot> Waesucks! bauen1!
You beat Bob's previous record of 47 minutes and 25 seconds (By 25
minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L82[05:03:44] <MichiBot> bauen1's new
record is 1 hour, 12 minutes and 59 seconds! bauen1 also gained
0.00043 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L83[05:05:42] <bauen1> wouldn't that one
second of reverse gravity feel more like 2g due to the sudden shift
from 1g down to 1g up ? (purely psychological of course)
L84[05:06:32] <bauen1> in any case that
would feel really really unpleasant
L85[05:10:18] <Forecaster>
possibly
<Forecaster>
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L91[06:05:50] <T-Dark> Is
there a way to autorun code on shutdown in openOS? I know the rc
system can do that on startup, and I know I could write some kind
of wrapper around the shutdown shell command, but is there a way to
do it automatically?
<T-Dark> Is
there a way to autorun code on shutdown in openOS? I know the rc
system can do that on startup, and I know I could write some kind
of wrapper around the shutdown shell command, but is there a way to
do it automatically?L92[06:05:58] <T-Dark>
Also, is this the right place to ask?
<T-Dark>
Also, is this the right place to ask?L93[06:06:14] <MGR> You
can listen for the shutdown event with event.listen
<MGR> You
can listen for the shutdown event with event.listenL94[06:06:30] <MGR> It
won't trigger if they break the computer or use the case power
button, but it'll trigger otherwise
<MGR> It
won't trigger if they break the computer or use the case power
button, but it'll trigger otherwiseL95[06:07:34] <T-Dark> or
if the system runs out of power, I guess. That's actually really
useful. Thanks!
<T-Dark> or
if the system runs out of power, I guess. That's actually really
useful. Thanks!L96[06:35:36] <AmandaC> payonel: I am
now
L97[06:35:47] <Inari> s/n/me/
L98[06:35:48] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
payomeel: I am now
L99[06:35:53] <Inari> Haha
L100[06:36:04] <Inari> s/n/me/g
L101[06:36:05] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
payomeel: I am meow
L102[06:42:18] *
t20kdc hails meow
L103[06:58:43] *
AmandaC meows at t20kdc
L104[06:59:09] <AmandaC> I had something I
wanted to discuss with you re: KOS but I can't remember what
now
L105[06:59:25] <AmandaC> Oh well, it'll
come to me sometime
L106[07:00:09] <Izaya> https://cdn.niu.moe/media_attachments/files/005/524/608/original/420258df638229c5.mp4
L107[07:00:17] <Izaya> was it minitel
related? :^)
L108[07:01:26] <AmandaC> Izaya: probably,
since I spent most of yesterday in a feuge around that
L109[07:03:10] <AmandaC> t20kdc& Oh,
right. Is there any kind of helper library for handling coroutines?
My svc-lilac now has three coroutines, and it's a bit
unwieldy
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L111[07:05:53] <bauen1> does the network
loot disk support wireless modems ?
L112[07:06:11] <Izaya> IIRC the network
loot disk doesn't really work
L113[07:06:37] <Izaya> AmandaC: thoughts
on publishing actual minitel releases as minified code,
thoughts?
L114[07:06:51] <Izaya> s/thoughts
on/considering/
L115[07:06:51] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
AmandaC: considering publishing actual minitel releases as minified
code, thoughts?
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L117[07:21:53] <AmandaC> Izaya: I'm not
awakeenough to form thoughts on that
L118[07:21:59] <Izaya> fair enough
L119[07:22:15] <Izaya> have a cute
chitanda instead https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9GEcLVU0AYXgIN.jpg:orig
L120[07:22:17] <AmandaC> %8ball
ibuprofen?
L121[07:22:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply
hazy, try again
L122[07:23:11] <AmandaC> %8ball scrambled
eggs?
L123[07:23:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs
point to yes
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L125[07:35:11] <t20kdc> AmandaC: I'm...
curious as to why you have three coroutines
L126[07:35:47] <AmandaC> t20kdc: one event
pump for the main loop, then a reader and a writer for
minitel
L127[07:36:31] <t20kdc> anyways, I'm not
sure how such a helper library would work
L128[07:37:16] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL129[07:37:16] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Kodos!
You beat bauen1's previous record of 1 hour, 12 minutes and 59
seconds (By 1 hour, 20 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L130[07:37:17] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 2 hours, 33 minutes and 34 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.00268 (0.00134 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L131[07:38:09] <Izaya> AmandaC: I can give
you a tiny scheduler
L133[08:00:21] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Chernobyl Posted on: 6/14/2019
L134[08:00:24] <Forecaster>
seems about right
<Forecaster>
seems about rightL135[08:02:55] <Inari> Haha, it doesn't
seem that hard a concept
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L137[08:15:06] <T-Dark> Out
of curiosity, does OC support the userdata data type?
<T-Dark> Out
of curiosity, does OC support the userdata data type?L138[08:15:17] <Forecaster>
for what?
<Forecaster>
for what?L139[08:15:32] <T-Dark>
Nothing, just curious
<T-Dark>
Nothing, just curiousL140[08:15:48] <T-Dark> I
don't need it, but I wanna know if it exists
<T-Dark> I
don't need it, but I wanna know if it existsL141[08:16:26] <Izaya> I think components
can return userdata
L142[08:16:48] <Izaya> ... I think the
component tables are userdata, actually.
L143[08:16:56] <T-Dark>
Yeah, they do. The intenet card definitely can, at least.
<T-Dark>
Yeah, they do. The intenet card definitely can, at least.L144[08:18:45] <T-Dark> The
component tables being userdata would explain why
`type(component.modem.send)` is `table` but I can call it as if it
were a function, I guess
<T-Dark> The
component tables being userdata would explain why
`type(component.modem.send)` is `table` but I can call it as if it
were a function, I guessL145[08:18:59] <Izaya> eeeh
L146[08:19:11] <T-Dark>
check it out in the lua interpreter
<T-Dark>
check it out in the lua interpreterL147[08:19:17] <Izaya> you can
setmetatable(t,{__call=function() return true})
L148[08:19:22] <Izaya> and then do t() and
it'll return true
L149[08:19:43] <T-Dark> or
you can do that. TIL
<T-Dark> or
you can do that. TILL150[08:20:45] <Izaya> metatables are
magic
L151[08:20:45] <T-Dark> so,
no userdata for OC users. As I thought.
<T-Dark> so,
no userdata for OC users. As I thought.L152[08:20:54] <Izaya> I don't think you
can generate userdata
L153[08:21:00] <T-Dark> not
surprised
<T-Dark> not
surprisedL154[08:21:07] <Izaya> IIRC userdata is a
pseudo-type for external input
L155[08:21:11] <T-Dark>
that stuff is normally done in C
<T-Dark>
that stuff is normally done in CL156[08:21:16] <Izaya> exactly
L157[08:22:24] <AmandaC> userdata is for C
to expose stuff
L158[08:22:34] <AmandaC> it's kinda the
generic "This isn't a lua type" type
L159[08:22:49] <Izaya> my favourite
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L161[08:23:19] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/589444430008942594/62905486_1334757333341125_8445336860053471232_n.png?width=380&height=676
L162[08:23:53] <T-Dark>
BTW, since you seem to be familiar with metatables: I can call
`component.modem.send`, but
<T-Dark>
BTW, since you seem to be familiar with metatables: I can call
`component.modem.send`, butL164[08:23:55] <Bob> you
can call tables
<Bob> you
can call tablesL165[08:24:00] <Bob> its
easy
<Bob> its
easyL166[08:24:02] <T-Dark>
that stuff fails
<T-Dark>
that stuff failsL167[08:24:11] <Bob> table
is nil
<Bob> table
is nilL168[08:24:12] <T-Dark>
sorry, misclicked the send button
<T-Dark>
sorry, misclicked the send buttonL169[08:24:21] <Bob> and
you cant set other than table matatable types
<Bob> and
you cant set other than table matatable typesL170[08:24:25] <Bob> yea
still
<Bob> yea
stillL171[08:26:28] <Bob>
userdata in OC would not so usefull
<Bob>
userdata in OC would not so usefullL172[08:26:37] <Bob> can
you require c libraries ?
<Bob> can
you require c libraries ?L173[08:26:37] <AmandaC> @T-Dark you can't
just call something "table" and have it be a table, you
need to assign it asa table with `local table = {}`
L174[08:26:45] <Bob>
^
<Bob>
^L175[08:26:47] <AmandaC> @Bob no
L176[08:26:56] <Bob> well
then userdata is pointless
<Bob> well
then userdata is pointlessL177[08:26:57] <T-Dark>
sorry, mistyped. Doing it again
<T-Dark>
sorry, mistyped. Doing it againL178[08:27:01] <Bob>
completly pointless
<Bob>
completly pointlessL179[08:27:27] <Izaya> t={}
setmetatable(t,{__type=function() return "userdata"
end})
L181[08:27:40] <AmandaC> @Bob it's used by
components for stuff like the tcp streams int he internet
card.
L182[08:28:00] <T-Dark>
About metatables and the `__call` field, why does `robot.move(3)`
work but the following fails?
<T-Dark>
About metatables and the `__call` field, why does `robot.move(3)`
work but the following fails?L184[08:29:29] <AmandaC> That's a rather
contrived example, @T-Dark
L185[08:30:14] <T-Dark> I
know, sorry, but it would appear that the __call metatable field
does not work if accessing the table as an __index metatable
field
<T-Dark> I
know, sorry, but it would appear that the __call metatable field
does not work if accessing the table as an __index metatable
fieldL186[08:30:18] <Bob> local
robot = component.modem
<Bob> local
robot = component.modemL187[08:30:25] <T-Dark>
mistyped that
<T-Dark>
mistyped thatL188[08:30:26] <Bob> nice
job
<Bob> nice
jobL189[08:30:27] <Izaya> bad answer that may
be wrong: because the robot component proxy is an abstraction and
uses the table's internal values to use component.invoke rather
than actually doing anything itself
L190[08:30:57] <Bob>
component.ComponentName is already an OpenOS metatble thing
<Bob>
component.ComponentName is already an OpenOS metatble thingL191[08:31:00] <Bob> in the
component library
<Bob> in the
component libraryL192[08:31:20] <T-Dark>
About metatables and the `__call` field, why does `robot.move(3)`
work but the following fails?
<T-Dark>
About metatables and the `__call` field, why does `robot.move(3)`
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L195[08:33:39] <AmandaC> Izaya: btw,
fserve is using a field that doesn't appear to exist:
`socket.cname`
L196[08:33:57] <Izaya> ... would not
surprise me if it doesn't exist any more
L197[08:34:14] <Izaya> fserve is probably
the oldest surviving daemon currently in use
L198[08:34:16] <AmandaC> I ran into some
issues "borrowing" snippets from stuff like that for my
RPC porting
L199[08:34:19] <Izaya> I had a more
coroutine-y one for a while
L200[08:34:26] <Izaya> not sure where I
put that...
L201[08:34:34] <Izaya> it could be a HTTP
proxy too
L202[08:34:45] <Izaya> which was
y'know
L203[08:34:47] <Izaya> neat
L204[08:38:27] <AmandaC> Izaya: this is
what I meant by two rules to implement building microtel, btw:
https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/minitel-lilac/Makefile#L6-13
L205[08:39:21] <AmandaC> I plan to yoink
and abuse that minify.lua some more though, I think
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L207[08:40:01] <Izaya> I have a much more
agressive set of rules somewhere, too.
L208[08:40:43] <Izaya> also got one that
converts keywords into single characters then replaces them and
load()s a string at runtime
L209[08:40:51] <AmandaC> heh
L210[08:40:52] <Izaya> horrifying but
functional
L211[08:45:45] <AmandaC> ~w
component:eeprom
L212[08:45:45] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:eeprom
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L218[09:35:06] <AmandaC> :D No idea if
it'll work, but: `3960 out/eeprom/custom/lilac-pxe.lua
L219[09:35:23] <AmandaC> microtel + my pxe
rpc calls
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L221[09:53:56] <Izaya> :D
L222[09:54:54] <AmandaC> fuuuuuck
L223[09:55:00] <AmandaC> I just nuked all
my ocvm instances
L224[09:55:12] <AmandaC> Be careful when
up-entering
L225[09:55:35] <Anna> Hey,
is this the right place to ask noob questions about OC programming?
:>
<Anna> Hey,
is this the right place to ask noob questions about OC programming?
:>L226[09:55:42] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL227[09:56:14] <Inari> Any of you pros got
a guide to Win10 Enterprise stuff? That one? https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/8pfnun/how_to_download_and_install_windows_10_ltsb/
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L229[09:57:23] <Anna> Okay
so I'm trying to make a program that monitors a nuclear reactor for
me. I use a timer to run once every tick. However, that makes the
program run in "driver mode", as in it exits and never
lets me stop the timer. I also want to make it display something on
a screen so ideally I'd want it running in program mode.
<Anna> Okay
so I'm trying to make a program that monitors a nuclear reactor for
me. I use a timer to run once every tick. However, that makes the
program run in "driver mode", as in it exits and never
lets me stop the timer. I also want to make it display something on
a screen so ideally I'd want it running in program mode.L230[09:57:53] <Forecaster>
use a while true loop?
<Forecaster>
use a while true loop?L231[09:58:10] <Anna> In an
effort to do that, I put a loop at the bottom that just repeats
until I get an interrupted event. Problem with that is the timer
never runs until some other event is fired (mouse clicks, key
presses, etc.)
<Anna> In an
effort to do that, I put a loop at the bottom that just repeats
until I get an interrupted event. Problem with that is the timer
never runs until some other event is fired (mouse clicks, key
presses, etc.)L232[09:58:38] <Anna>
Doesn't really seem like intended behavior
<Anna>
Doesn't really seem like intended behaviorL233[09:58:54] <Forecaster>
if you use a while true loop you don't need a timer
<Forecaster>
if you use a while true loop you don't need a timerL234[09:59:06] <Anna> so
like
<Anna> so
likeL237[09:59:28] <Anna>
?
<Anna>
?L238[09:59:42] <Anna> That
runs about once a second and is slower than I need it to be
<Anna> That
runs about once a second and is slower than I need it to beL239[09:59:54] <Anna> And
if I don't wait for events I can't terminate the program
<Anna> And
if I don't wait for events I can't terminate the programL240[10:00:07] <Anna> And
that right there is the dilemmma
<Anna> And
that right there is the dilemmmaL241[10:00:09] <Anna> And
that right there is the dilemma [Edited]
<Anna> And
that right there is the dilemma [Edited]L244[10:01:05] <Anna> Hm,
not sure what difference that would make over what I've posted
above but I'll try it
<Anna> Hm,
not sure what difference that would make over what I've posted
above but I'll try itL245[10:02:47] <Forecaster>
if you want to use a timer you can register the timer, then while
true loop and just listen for the interrupted event
<Forecaster>
if you want to use a timer you can register the timer, then while
true loop and just listen for the interrupted eventL246[10:02:58] <Forecaster>
when it catches the interrupted event unregister the timer
<Forecaster>
when it catches the interrupted event unregister the timerL247[10:03:02] <Forecaster>
then end the program
<Forecaster>
then end the programL248[10:03:20] <Anna>
That's exactly what I have done and it causes that problem where my
code doesn't run until some other event is fired
<Anna>
That's exactly what I have done and it causes that problem where my
code doesn't run until some other event is firedL249[10:03:34] <Forecaster>
I've never used a timer
<Forecaster>
I've never used a timerL250[10:03:43] <Forecaster>
I don't know how that works
<Forecaster>
I don't know how that worksL251[10:04:04] <Anna> I'm
not entirely sure either and I'm not entirely certain this is
intended behavior
<Anna> I'm
not entirely sure either and I'm not entirely certain this is
intended behaviorL252[10:04:39] <Anna> Also
the code you posted has the exact same problem too
<Anna> Also
the code you posted has the exact same problem tooL253[10:04:56] <Anna>
Doesn't run unless I'm spam-clicking the console
<Anna>
Doesn't run unless I'm spam-clicking the consoleL254[10:05:19] <Forecaster>
are you not running event.pull with a timeout?
<Forecaster>
are you not running event.pull with a timeout?L255[10:05:38] <Anna> ...
why didn't I think of that
<Anna> ...
why didn't I think of thatL256[10:05:39] <Anna>
thanks
<Anna>
thanksL257[10:08:45] <Anna> I was
so tied up trying to figure out why a blocking call at the end of
my program affected my timer that I didn't think to look for the
alternatives
<Anna> I was
so tied up trying to figure out why a blocking call at the end of
my program affected my timer that I didn't think to look for the
alternativesL258[10:08:59] <Anna> That
worked, many thanks
<Anna> That
worked, many thanksL259[10:09:11] <Forecaster>
no problem
<Forecaster>
no problemL260[10:12:52] <AmandaC> payonel: ocvm
doesn't implement getChecksum on an eeprom!?
L261[10:22:20] <Bob> @Anna
you can aswell use
<Bob> @Anna
you can aswell useL263[10:22:30] <Bob> break
is a keyword to breat out of a loop
<Bob> break
is a keyword to breat out of a loopL264[10:22:41] <Bob> works
for ```for while repeat``` loops
<Bob> works
for ```for while repeat``` loopsL265[10:22:56] <Anna> I've
coded in Lua for quite a while, so no worries about that ?
<Anna> I've
coded in Lua for quite a while, so no worries about that ?L266[10:23:04] <Anna> I'm
just really new to opencomputers
<Anna> I'm
just really new to opencomputersL267[10:23:13] <Forecaster>
I prefer run = false because it will complete the current
loop
<Forecaster>
I prefer run = false because it will complete the current
loopL268[10:23:25] <Bob> add
the check at the end of the loop works aswell
<Bob> add
the check at the end of the loop works aswellL269[10:23:33] <Anna> In
this case it doesn't matter so I've just gone for my good ol'
repeat until
<Anna> In
this case it doesn't matter so I've just gone for my good ol'
repeat untilL271[10:23:59] <Anna> Ah!
that's useful
<Anna> Ah!
that's usefulL272[10:24:28] <Bob>
also
<Bob>
alsoL273[10:24:28] <Bob>
```while event.pull() do somecode() end```
<Bob>
```while event.pull() do somecode() end```L274[10:24:28] <Bob> will
pull the event just for the while check and wont actually save
somewehre, so pulling another check will pull once again
<Bob> will
pull the event just for the while check and wont actually save
somewehre, so pulling another check will pull once againL275[10:24:33] <Bob> Be
sure you read the OC wiki
<Bob> Be
sure you read the OC wikiL276[10:24:36] <Bob> its
really complete so
<Bob> its
really complete soL277[10:24:59] <Anna>
Again, I do know Lua well enough to know these tricks. I've worked
with it for years :>
<Anna>
Again, I do know Lua well enough to know these tricks. I've worked
with it for years :>L278[10:25:08] <Anna> Just
not familiar with the OC API
<Anna> Just
not familiar with the OC APIL279[10:25:50] <Bob> Well
when you will see how OC works, it will be really just reusing
those functions over and over again
<Bob> Well
when you will see how OC works, it will be really just reusing
those functions over and over againL280[10:25:57] <Bob> i
guess the wiki is your friend now
<Bob> i
guess the wiki is your friend nowL281[10:26:13] <Bob> dont
be afraid to ask more specific stuff here then
<Bob> dont
be afraid to ask more specific stuff here thenL282[10:26:19] <Anna> Yis
thank you
<Anna> Yis
thank youL283[10:26:45] <Bob> Also
in OpenOS you can enter the Lua sheel by entering Lua
<Bob> Also
in OpenOS you can enter the Lua sheel by entering LuaL284[10:26:52] <Bob> very
usefull to test everything
<Bob> very
usefull to test everythingL285[10:27:01] <Bob> Check
Component and Event wiki entries
<Bob> Check
Component and Event wiki entriesL286[10:27:04] <Bob> aswell
as signals maybe
<Bob> aswell
as signals maybeL288[10:34:23] <Bob> OC has
Lua 5.2 and 5.3 but not latest 5.3.5 i think
<Bob> OC has
Lua 5.2 and 5.3 but not latest 5.3.5 i thinkL289[10:36:36]
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L290[10:37:15] <Anna> Yeah
I knew about the OpenOS thing. That's how I have been browsing the
APIs
<Anna> Yeah
I knew about the OpenOS thing. That's how I have been browsing the
APIsL291[10:37:39] <Anna>
Basically by looping over tables and printing out everything in
them.
<Anna>
Basically by looping over tables and printing out everything in
them.L292[10:39:20] <Bob> ahaha
started out the same way
<Bob> ahaha
started out the same wayL293[10:39:38] <Bob> by
default a PC doesn't have every lib OpenOS provides
<Bob> by
default a PC doesn't have every lib OpenOS providesL294[10:40:00] <Bob>
https://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses here's
the list of all default functions avaible
<Bob>
https://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses here's
the list of all default functions avaibleL295[10:40:18] <AmandaC> payonel: it's
ugly as sin, but: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/pull/26
L296[10:42:39] <AmandaC> payonel: also,
any idea why ocvm is suddenly taking up a whole core per
instance?
L297[11:01:01] <Anna>
Another thing - what's the name for a logarithm base 10 function in
opencomputers?
<Anna>
Another thing - what's the name for a logarithm base 10 function in
opencomputers?L298[11:01:05] <Anna>
math.log10 doesn't exist
<Anna>
math.log10 doesn't existL299[11:01:36] <Anna>
math.log10 doesn't exist but is part of standard Lua [Edited]
<Anna>
math.log10 doesn't exist but is part of standard Lua [Edited]L300[11:01:38] <bauen1> nice
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L302[11:07:01] <bauen1> is the whole
openos require delay stuff used to avoid circular dependencies
?
L303[11:07:51] <Inari> require delay
stuff?
L304[11:08:24] <Anna>
require() may yield until it can actually return something. It's
just the loading delay.
<Anna>
require() may yield until it can actually return something. It's
just the loading delay.L305[11:08:45] <bauen1>
require("package").delay(sh,
"/lib/core/full_sh.lua")
L306[11:08:48] <Anna> I do
believe however that require() also caches its result to avoid
circular dependencies
<Anna> I do
believe however that require() also caches its result to avoid
circular dependenciesL307[11:09:04] <Anna> oh
that
<Anna> oh
thatL308[11:09:24] <Bob> @Anna
i faced the same thing, use math.log(value,10) i think
<Bob> @Anna
i faced the same thing, use math.log(value,10) i thinkL309[11:09:27] <AmandaC> bauen1: no,
that's to save memory for stuff not strictly nessary for a full
boot
L310[11:09:31] <Bob> i
neeed to lookup trougth my github
<Bob> i
neeed to lookup trougth my githubL311[11:09:53] <Bob>
indeeed math.log(number,10)
<Bob>
indeeed math.log(number,10)L312[11:09:53]
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L313[11:10:00] <Anna> I've
just gone ahead and used the change of base formula
<Anna> I've
just gone ahead and used the change of base formulaL314[11:10:09] <Anna> Oh,
so it can do arbitrary bases, that's neat
<Anna> Oh,
so it can do arbitrary bases, that's neatL315[11:10:25] <bauen1> oh thats kind of
funny, since you can't really use anything if the full_* variants
don't load ...
L316[11:10:29] <Bob>
yea
<Bob>
yeaL317[11:10:34] <Bob> its
vanilla Lua so
<Bob> its
vanilla Lua soL318[11:10:51] <Anna>
Wasn't even aware that was a thing in regular Lua
<Anna>
Wasn't even aware that was a thing in regular LuaL319[11:10:57] <Anna> The
more you know /shrug
<Anna> The
more you know /shrugL320[11:11:03] <Bob>
ahaha
<Bob>
ahahaL321[11:11:09] <Bob> loop
trought the default Lua functions ?
<Bob> loop
trought the default Lua functions ?L322[11:11:34] <Anna> Then
again log10 is also vanilla so I wouldn't be surprised if they've
modified some stuff
<Anna> Then
again log10 is also vanilla so I wouldn't be surprised if they've
modified some stuffL323[11:12:10] <Anna> The
more you know
<Anna> The
more you knowL325[11:12:15] <Anna> It
actually does work
<Anna> It
actually does workL326[11:12:27] <Bob> yes it
will work, why would i lie
<Bob> yes it
will work, why would i lieL327[11:12:36] <Bob> e not
latest Lua :GWmythicalHyperREEEE:
<Bob> e not
latest Lua :GWmythicalHyperREEEE:L328[11:12:57] <Anna>
That's the only notepad++ plugin I was able to get :<
<Anna>
That's the only notepad++ plugin I was able to get :<L329[11:13:04] <Anna> And
for quickly testing stuff it works well enough
<Anna> And
for quickly testing stuff it works well enoughL330[11:13:42] <Bob>
Notepad++ i aprove
<Bob>
Notepad++ i aproveL331[11:13:46] <Bob> i
don't use plugins for it
<Bob> i
don't use plugins for itL332[11:14:01] ⇦
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L333[11:14:09] <Bob> @Anna
you know you can run lua directly from the Lua shell, openOS has a
Lua shell
<Bob> @Anna
you know you can run lua directly from the Lua shell, openOS has a
Lua shellL334[11:14:35] <Bob> All OC
changes isn't significant
<Bob> All OC
changes isn't significantL335[11:14:43] <Anna> Yes
but I use Lua for other things than just OpenComputers :>
<Anna> Yes
but I use Lua for other things than just OpenComputers :>L336[11:14:49] <Bob> Same
here
<Bob> Same
hereL337[11:15:01]
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L338[11:15:03] <Bob>
Factorio Modding and Love2d App making tm
<Bob>
Factorio Modding and Love2d App making tmL339[11:15:03] <Anna> And I
don't want to have to boot up Minecraft every time I want to test
something ?
<Anna> And I
don't want to have to boot up Minecraft every time I want to test
something ?L340[11:15:18] <Bob> there
is an OC emulator
<Bob> there
is an OC emulatorL341[11:15:33] <Anna> It's
my go-to scripting language whenever I need to bind something into
my own projects
<Anna> It's
my go-to scripting language whenever I need to bind something into
my own projectsL342[11:16:30] <Bob> Lua is
cool since you can run it in real time
<Bob> Lua is
cool since you can run it in real timeL343[11:16:38] <Bob> JIT
instead of compiling like AOT langs
<Bob> JIT
instead of compiling like AOT langsL344[11:17:35] <Bob> and
Lua is very fast and small so its embed in many places
<Bob> and
Lua is very fast and small so its embed in many placesL345[11:20:54] <Anna>
Yep
<Anna>
YepL346[11:27:16]
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L347[11:30:34] <bad at
vijya> lmao
<bad at
vijya> lmaoL348[11:30:40] <bad at
vijya> i use lua for quick shell scripts
<bad at
vijya> i use lua for quick shell scriptsL349[11:30:48] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL350[11:30:49] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 2 hours, 33 minutes
and 34 seconds (By 1 hour, 19 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L351[11:30:50] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 53 minutes and 32 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00399 (0.00133 x 3) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L352[11:30:55] <bad at
vijya> and i was working on a package manager
<bad at
vijya> and i was working on a package managerL353[11:30:56] <bad at
vijya> in lua
<bad at
vijya> in luaL354[11:31:20] <bauen1> also, in OpenOS
/lib/event.lua, why is a metatable used to make 'handlers' callable
(=> computer.pullSignal) instead of just calling you know,
computer.pullSignal ?
L355[11:32:38] <Z0idburg>
because bad programming
<Z0idburg>
because bad programmingL356[11:33:24] <bad at
vijya> oh, there's another thing i was thinking about with
Tsuki. you can register light programs to run in their own little
sandbox that run when events are triggered.
<bad at
vijya> oh, there's another thing i was thinking about with
Tsuki. you can register light programs to run in their own little
sandbox that run when events are triggered.L357[11:34:53] <bauen1> actually, there
are probably so many ways to make event's computer.pullSignal
faster
L358[11:35:11] <Z0idburg>
everything should be a process
<Z0idburg>
everything should be a processL359[11:36:15] ⇦
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L360[11:40:36] <Inari> Probably some kinda
reason
L361[11:40:37] <Inari> Ask payonel
L362[11:40:51] <Z0idburg>
Trotwood processes look like this:
<Z0idburg>
Trotwood processes look like this:L364[11:40:57] <Z0idburg>
if you do them right
<Z0idburg>
if you do them rightL365[11:41:39] <Z0idburg>
Or like this
<Z0idburg>
Or like thisL367[11:43:50] <Z0idburg>
So many ways to construct your programs
<Z0idburg>
So many ways to construct your programsL369[11:44:03] <Z0idburg>
every box is a process, every circle is a process in all of
these
<Z0idburg>
every box is a process, every circle is a process in all of
theseL370[11:44:16] <Z0idburg>
every thing you see is a process !wheee
<Z0idburg>
every thing you see is a process !wheeeL371[11:44:32] <Z0idburg>
Just look at all of the processes
<Z0idburg>
Just look at all of the processesL372[11:47:30] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL373[11:47:31] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe
pink potion (New!). When you bring the bottle down you see a salmon
colored plastic flamingo. It stares into your soul.
L374[12:08:38] <AmandaC> payonel: also not
sure if it's related but it seems I can cause ocvm to ignore esc to
quit somehow? I genuinely don't know how I'm triggering it
though
L375[12:10:26] <Anna>
Question: How much RAM do OC programs really use? How much should I
have for a given program?
<Anna>
Question: How much RAM do OC programs really use? How much should I
have for a given program?L376[12:10:52] <Bob> Lua
doesn't use much
<Bob> Lua
doesn't use muchL377[12:10:58] <Bob> until
you do absurd things
<Bob> until
you do absurd thingsL378[12:11:11] <Bob> OpenOS
can run on a single T1 ram stick so
<Bob> OpenOS
can run on a single T1 ram stick soL379[12:11:19] <Bob> You
should aim for that ?
<Bob> You
should aim for that ?L380[12:11:54] <Anna> Ah.
I'm making a tablet and I need to reduce complexity. Got 2 of the
Tier 2.5 sticks in it and was wondering if it'd be okay to remove
one
<Anna> Ah.
I'm making a tablet and I need to reduce complexity. Got 2 of the
Tier 2.5 sticks in it and was wondering if it'd be okay to remove
oneL381[12:12:09] <Anna> so
this gives me confidence it'll be just fine :>
<Anna> so
this gives me confidence it'll be just fine :>L382[12:12:14] <Bob>
Yea
<Bob>
YeaL383[12:12:16] <Bob>
totally fine
<Bob>
totally fineL384[12:12:29] <payonel> @status
@"T-Dark"
L385[12:12:29] <Discord>
T-Dark is currently OFFLINE
<Discord>
T-Dark is currently OFFLINEL386[12:15:44] <payonel> AmandaC: ocvm
running hot on a core? ugh that's not good. i added a nice sleep on
the worker threads so it WOULDN't do that
L387[12:16:08] <payonel> bauen1: you have
openos questions?
L388[12:16:26] <AmandaC> payonel: I think
it's because the lua side is being busy. I can replicate it, both
that and the esc-ignore by throwing `while true do end` in the
bios.lua
L389[12:16:50] <AmandaC> I swear it used
to do some form ofthrottling, and supported tlwoy
L390[12:16:54] <payonel> oh yeah i think
my latest has the timeout disabled
L391[12:16:59] <AmandaC> ah
L392[12:17:00] <payonel> not on the lua
runtime
L393[12:17:14] <payonel> um...we could put
in lua throttling
L394[12:17:33] <payonel> let me give you a
line of code to add, and let me know how it works for you
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L396[12:21:26] <AmandaC> payonel: oh.
tlwoy is still in, it just defaults to math.huge
L397[12:21:47] <bad at
vijya> i will soon make a tablet OS
<bad at
vijya> i will soon make a tablet OSL399[12:23:29] <Bob>
finally i can make my noodles
<Bob>
finally i can make my noodlesL400[12:27:55] <AmandaC> payonel: I'm
pretty sure the core-pegging is because of load in the vm,
specifically it doesn't happen with a new ocvm instance, but does
when I start adding my programs to it
L401[12:29:02] <payonel> yeah, i'm not
throttling the lua state, so if you have a hard loop in lua, it'll
peg it
L402[12:29:09] <payonel> the timeout will
at least help it die
L403[12:30:06] <payonel> i have to use
kill to stop it :)
L404[12:31:15] <bad at
vijya> oh
<bad at
vijya> ohL405[12:31:17] <bad at
vijya> that reminds me
<bad at
vijya> that reminds meL406[12:31:32] <bad at
vijya> killing ocvm while in a pullSignal loop causes the
terminal to freak out
<bad at
vijya> killing ocvm while in a pullSignal loop causes the
terminal to freak outL407[12:31:39] <bad at
vijya> lemme get a screenshot, sec
<bad at
vijya> lemme get a screenshot, secL408[12:31:42] <payonel> i know
L409[12:31:46] <bad at
vijya> oh
<bad at
vijya> ohL410[12:31:48] <bad at
vijya> alright
<bad at
vijya> alrightL411[12:32:10] <payonel> it's not a bug,
it's because if you kill the process ocvm doesn't have a chance to
reset the terminal mode
L412[12:32:15] <bad at
vijya> ah
<bad at
vijya> ahL413[12:32:17] <payonel> just run
`reset`
L414[12:32:22] <bad at
vijya> OH
<bad at
vijya> OHL415[12:32:24] <bad at
vijya> okay
<bad at
vijya> okayL416[12:32:25] <bad at
vijya> thanks
<bad at
vijya> thanksL417[12:34:46] <AmandaC> payonel: is the
lack of throttling intentional, or just havn't gotten around to
it?
L418[12:37:51] <payonel> something i
overlooked
L419[12:37:56] <payonel> i'll add it
in
L420[12:38:30] <AmandaC> kk, I also hacked
in a eeprom.getChecksum, very messily. I'd understand if you didn't
want to use that PR though
L421[12:38:42] <AmandaC> I
L422[12:39:01] <payonel> oh i saw it :)
i'm happy to add it. i'll review it to see why you dont like it,
see if i'd change anything
L423[12:39:07] <AmandaC> I'm running on
fumes and it's only 13.30 ._.
L424[12:39:21] <AmandaC> You'd think I was
up all night, but I got a good 7-8h of sleep
L425[12:39:44] <bad at
vijya> coffee is my blood tbh
<bad at
vijya> coffee is my blood tbhL426[12:39:55] <payonel> i have question
about the barcode reader thing, btw
L427[12:40:18] <payonel> in your pr you
mentioned that it could be used with an adapter? did you just mean
the tablet could scan the adapter?
L428[12:40:56] <AmandaC> Yes, it handles
scanning the sides of an adapter correctly
L429[12:41:18] <AmandaC> rather, it'll
return all the cmponents that adapter is exporting
L430[12:41:38] <Bob>
Despite my CPU being at 100°C it just lost 0.1 GHz
<Bob>
Despite my CPU being at 100°C it just lost 0.1 GHzL431[12:41:46] <bad at
vijya> what CPU lmao
<bad at
vijya> what CPU lmaoL432[12:41:51] <Bob> i3
3320 ofc
<Bob> i3
3320 ofcL433[12:41:54] <bad at
vijya> oh
<bad at
vijya> ohL434[12:41:59] <AmandaC> thermal
throttling is a thing
L436[12:42:07] <Bob> its at
100 degrees but for no real reason
<Bob> its at
100 degrees but for no real reasonL437[12:42:08] <AmandaC> so your desktop
doesn't burn your house down
L438[12:42:19] <Bob> wont
happen
<Bob> wont
happenL439[12:42:25] <bad at
vijya> the i5-560M was a great CPU
<bad at
vijya> the i5-560M was a great CPUL440[12:42:25] <Bob> not
wooden flooring
<Bob> not
wooden flooringL441[12:42:26] <bad at
vijya> B)
<bad at
vijya> B)L442[12:42:30] <Bob>
?
<Bob>
?L443[12:42:47] <bad at
vijya> i loved it when my laptop started giving me burns
B)
<bad at
vijya> i loved it when my laptop started giving me burns
B)L444[12:42:47] <AmandaC> ... carpetted
flooring is more flamible, not less
L445[12:42:58] <bad at
vijya> what if his flooring is concrete
<bad at
vijya> what if his flooring is concreteL446[12:43:04] <Izaya> Imagine not having
concrete or tile floors
L447[12:43:08] <bad at
vijya> what he lives in an igloo
<bad at
vijya> what he lives in an iglooL448[12:43:43] <Bob> yea
imagine not having conrete igloo
<Bob> yea
imagine not having conrete iglooL449[12:43:46] <Izaya> I feel like
something at 100C would be bad for the structural integrity of the
igloo
L450[12:43:54] <bad at
vijya> shhh
<bad at
vijya> shhhL451[12:43:58] <bad at
vijya> it's got liquid cooling
<bad at
vijya> it's got liquid coolingL452[12:44:06] <Izaya> Rain?
L453[12:44:41] <bad at
vijya> no the melting snow
<bad at
vijya> no the melting snowL454[12:44:43] <bad at
vijya> duh
<bad at
vijya> duhL455[12:45:17] <Izaya> Rain with more
steps
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L457[12:45:41] <bad at
vijya> so
<bad at
vijya> soL458[12:45:55] <bad at
vijya> i need to finish some of the things with Zorya up
<bad at
vijya> i need to finish some of the things with Zorya upL459[12:45:56] <Bob> i just
think my fan broke
<Bob> i just
think my fan brokeL460[12:45:59] <Bob> but i
won't go fix it
<Bob> but i
won't go fix itL461[12:46:04] <bad at
vijya> oh that happened to my GT 730
<bad at
vijya> oh that happened to my GT 730L462[12:46:08] <bad at
vijya> it wasn't very happy
<bad at
vijya> it wasn't very happyL463[12:46:09] <Bob> 9
years
<Bob> 9
yearsL464[12:46:14] <Bob> my pc
still runs
<Bob> my pc
still runsL465[12:46:23] <bad at
vijya> i was wondering why a game from 2008 ran so poorly
<bad at
vijya> i was wondering why a game from 2008 ran so poorlyL466[12:46:29] <bad at
vijya> and then my display went black
<bad at
vijya> and then my display went blackL467[12:46:39] <Bob> good
thing my GPU still lives
<Bob> good
thing my GPU still livesL468[12:46:41] <bad at
vijya> also
<bad at
vijya> alsoL469[12:46:47] <Bob> i
wonder how didn't my HHD failed yet
<Bob> i
wonder how didn't my HHD failed yetL470[12:46:52] <bad at
vijya> when did you last clean your PC
<bad at
vijya> when did you last clean your PCL471[12:47:33] <Izaya> Had a 220 for a
long time
L472[12:47:37] <Bob> a year
ago as i moved in this flat
<Bob> a year
ago as i moved in this flatL473[12:47:46] <Bob> since
i had renovations
<Bob> since
i had renovationsL474[12:47:50] <Izaya> The fan would
always be set to 30%
L475[12:47:51] <Bob> and
there was a thick layer of concrete dust
<Bob> and
there was a thick layer of concrete dustL476[12:47:58] <Izaya> But it didn't spin
at 30%
L477[12:48:05] <bad at
vijya> probably should clean it out
<bad at
vijya> probably should clean it outL478[12:48:14] <bad at
vijya> your heatsink might be clogged up
<bad at
vijya> your heatsink might be clogged upL479[12:48:23] <Izaya> So if I wanted to
use it I had to set it to at least 33% or it would overheat
L480[12:48:28] <bad at
vijya> i cleaned out my Q6600 build after a year of not
lcleaning it
<bad at
vijya> i cleaned out my Q6600 build after a year of not
lcleaning itL481[12:48:30] <bad at
vijya> *cleaning
<bad at
vijya> *cleaningL483[12:48:35] <Bob> i
think something clearly broke
<Bob> i
think something clearly brokeL484[12:48:41] <bad at
vijya> it had a thick layer of dust
<bad at
vijya> it had a thick layer of dustL485[12:48:42] <bad at
vijya> like
<bad at
vijya> likeL486[12:48:50] <bad at
vijya> compacted dust
<bad at
vijya> compacted dustL487[12:49:03] <Bob> my CPU
temp actually now goes down
<Bob> my CPU
temp actually now goes downL488[12:49:04] <bad at
vijya> on the top of the heatsink
<bad at
vijya> on the top of the heatsinkL489[12:49:07] <Bob> oh
bruh
<Bob> oh
bruhL490[12:49:14] <Bob>
compacted dusk worst
<Bob>
compacted dusk worstL491[12:49:17] <bad at
vijya> i popped the fan off
<bad at
vijya> i popped the fan offL492[12:49:20] <Bob> you
can't just vaacum it
<Bob> you
can't just vaacum itL493[12:49:24] <Bob> you
need to fucking scrub everything
<Bob> you
need to fucking scrub everythingL494[12:49:28] <bad at
vijya> hit the underside of the heatsink
<bad at
vijya> hit the underside of the heatsinkL495[12:49:28] <Bob> nnot
even air blower
<Bob> nnot
even air blowerL496[12:49:30] <bad at
vijya> a fucking
<bad at
vijya> a fuckingL497[12:49:34] <bad at
vijya> pancake of dust
<bad at
vijya> pancake of dustL498[12:49:38] <Bob>
yes
<Bob>
yesL499[12:49:39] <bad at
vijya> falls into the trashcan
<bad at
vijya> falls into the trashcanL500[12:49:45] <bad at
vijya> with a *thump*
<bad at
vijya> with a *thump*L501[12:49:50] <bad at
vijya> like damn
<bad at
vijya> like damnL502[12:50:00] <bad at
vijya> i was wondering why my pc sounded like a 747
<bad at
vijya> i was wondering why my pc sounded like a 747L503[12:50:24] <bad at
vijya> so i scrubbed everything and changed the thermal
paste
<bad at
vijya> so i scrubbed everything and changed the thermal
pasteL504[12:50:41] <Bob> i bet
my thermal paste at this point is just dust
<Bob> i bet
my thermal paste at this point is just dustL505[12:50:47] <bad at
vijya> and my temps didn't get above like 80 C after that
<bad at
vijya> and my temps didn't get above like 80 C after thatL506[12:50:56] <bad at
vijya> on the stock cooler
<bad at
vijya> on the stock coolerL507[12:51:01] <Bob> my
cooler fused with the CPU
<Bob> my
cooler fused with the CPUL508[12:52:46] <bad at
vijya> nice
<bad at
vijya> niceL509[13:03:02]
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L510[13:03:11] <payonel> AmandaC: i have
company coming over. i'll work on ocvm later though. thanks
:)
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L513[13:06:40] <lopezt1> what is
ocvm?
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L516[13:07:35] <Bob> an OC
VM
<Bob> an OC
VML517[13:07:46] <lopezt> virtuel
machine?
L518[13:07:52] <lopezt> virtual machien
for what?
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L520[13:08:32] <Brisingr
Aerowing> It's an emulator for actual computers so you can test
things without having to load the game.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> It's an emulator for actual computers so you can test
things without having to load the game.L521[13:08:45] <lopezt> ohok
L522[13:09:43] <Bob> That
is an emulator
<Bob> That
is an emulatorL523[13:13:09] <AmandaC> payonel: no
problem, I'm basically brain-dead right now anyway, so I'm probably
going to leave my tinkering for tomorrow
L524[13:24:03] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L525[13:24:04] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with fitness fleece. 11 health
gained!
L526[13:29:00] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL527[13:29:01] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 53
minutes and 32 seconds this time. 1 hour, 58 minutes and 12 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 55 minutes and 20 seconds!
L528[13:39:41] <lopezt> most of you wrote
really cool stuff in for oc
L529[13:39:54] <lopezt> is there anyone
who wrote a database or similar?
L530[13:40:35] <AmandaC> I think I've seen
various attempts at "SQL" servers on the forums
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L532[13:40:55] <AmandaC> but by and large
those arent that nessary,just store the data in a lua table and
serialize it / deserialize it to/from disk
L533[13:44:07] <lopezt> i would like to
create a data server spreading the data on multiple computers
L534[13:44:21] <lopezt> caus 2mb is not
very much per computer or even 4mb per server
L535[13:44:40] <lopezt> so i was asking if
there is something i could hook into
L536[13:45:50] <lopezt> i will have a look
into the forums
L537[13:47:21] <Kodos>
Remember that raids are a thing
<Kodos>
Remember that raids are a thingL538[13:47:35] <Kodos> 12
mb per raid with t3 drives in them
<Kodos> 12
mb per raid with t3 drives in themL539[13:51:22] <bad at
vijya> and also DEFLATE compression helps
<bad at
vijya> and also DEFLATE compression helpsL540[13:56:51] <AmandaC> payonel: I did
it! `std::this_thread::sleep_for(std::chrono::milliseconds(50));`
in the main loopof main.cpp solved the cpu pegging.
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L545[14:40:20] <Bob>
amazinf
<Bob>
amazinfL547[15:06:12] <Bob>
GLua
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L549[15:57:41] <bauen1> a real git
implementation would be interesting too, since git is just a hash
function, a slightly complicated graph and a key-value store that
works on files
L550[15:59:10] <Z0idburg>
just make your own vcs
<Z0idburg>
just make your own vcsL551[16:00:13] <bauen1> also, if you
seperate the os/kernel and userspace layer more cleanly (and
disallow function / userdata values from passing between them), you
could implement a multi-node filesystem / computing platform
relatively easily
L552[16:02:17] <bauen1> lopezt: you could
look into how ceph works (or rather, just the CRUSH algorithm,
which will tell you which computers have a specific block of
data)
L553[16:06:17] <lopezt> bauen1: is ceph a
oc thing or real world
L554[16:07:00] <Z0idburg>
My OS for OC uses a process oriented model and messages are passed
between processes that are byvalue. I don't think there's a very
useful purpose to kernel / user space in OC so much, for a good
reason; Components can be viewed as memory.
<Z0idburg>
My OS for OC uses a process oriented model and messages are passed
between processes that are byvalue. I don't think there's a very
useful purpose to kernel / user space in OC so much, for a good
reason; Components can be viewed as memory.L555[16:07:47] <Z0idburg>
you could restrict component access to kernel space,
<Z0idburg>
you could restrict component access to kernel space,L556[16:08:03] <Z0idburg>
but that's a whole other subproject of an OS for OC
<Z0idburg>
but that's a whole other subproject of an OS for OCL557[16:09:18] <bauen1> lopezt: real life
thing
L558[16:11:20] <bauen1> the idea behind
CRUSH is to have an algorithm that tells you which machine to
contact if you want a specific chunk of data (or want to write
it)
L559[16:11:50] <bauen1> and you can just
run the algorithm on clients, which increases performance a lot
(versus having a single gateway)
L560[16:12:35] <Brisingr
Aerowing> lopezt: Look at the Bundle program on the OC Forums.
It can store files on multiple drives at once.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> lopezt: Look at the Bundle program on the OC Forums.
It can store files on multiple drives at once.L561[16:12:36] <Brisingr
Aerowing> https://oc.cil.li/topic/1735-bundle-allows-to-use-multiple-filesystems-as-a-single-one/
<Brisingr
Aerowing> https://oc.cil.li/topic/1735-bundle-allows-to-use-multiple-filesystems-as-a-single-one/L562[16:13:14] <bauen1> @Z0idburg yeah,
such stuff is only really usefull if you want to run
"big" programms that don't use local components (ie.
having a high performance database or stuff like that)
L563[16:13:59] <Z0idburg> I
prefer exokernels
<Z0idburg> I
prefer exokernelsL564[16:18:39] <lopezt> can someone
explain the additional parameters of the geolyzer component
function scan? the parameter list is scan(x:number, z:number[,
y:number, w:number, d:number, h:number][,
ignoreReplaceable:boolean|options:table]):table
L565[16:18:57] <lopezt> so x,y,z
isobvious
L566[16:19:10] <lopezt> w and h maybe
width and height?
L567[16:19:15] <Temia> I wonder how much
trouble it'd be to implement a timeshare system on OC.
L568[16:19:17] <lopezt> so what is
d?
L569[16:19:47] <lopezt> but however i call
the method i get a table with 64 values
L570[16:19:54] <Temia> ...actually, now
I'm curious
L571[16:20:49] <bauen1> i don't think you
have access to debug.sethook, so you woud have to rely on the oc
timeout to force programs to call coroutine.yield
L572[16:22:02] <Inari> Temia: Hwo would
you even do that
L573[16:22:52] <Temia> Probably multiple
concurrent servers running jobs and schedulers
L574[16:23:23] <AmandaC> %shell
Izaya
L575[16:23:23] *
MichiBot loads the keys to the #oc jail cells into a shell and
fires it. It strikes the ground near Izaya, Neo and simon816. They
each take 2, 4 and 4 splash damage respectively.
L576[16:23:43] <Temia> I also am curious
about whether it'd be possible to do that in TIS-3D, but the
instructions don't seem to have a numeric value, nor can data be
executed as instructions, AFAICT
L577[16:24:07] <Temia> An interpreter
would have to be made instead, and that'd get unwieldy.
L578[16:24:07] <AmandaC> Izaya: I have
zero fucking idea how this worked last night, but I found a bug in
svc-minitel that seems to have broken routing entirely
L579[16:27:37] <AmandaC> Izaya: This
should be vport not vPort: https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-Minitel/src/branch/master/KittenOS/apps/svc-minitel.lua#L126-L131
L580[16:28:37] <AmandaC> Izaya: I don't
understand minitel well enough to know why that error caused the
whole thing to go upp in flames all the sudden, but when I fixed
that typo it's magically working again
L581[16:32:02] <Ariri>
%drink random
<Ariri>
%drink randomL582[16:32:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
basic redstone potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills
with a differently colored potion.
L583[17:16:02] *
AmandaC beams a mutable lapis potion in front of Inari
L584[17:20:14] <Ariri>
%tonk
<Ariri>
%tonkL585[17:20:15] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ariri,
you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 53
minutes and 32 seconds this time. 3 hours, 51 minutes and 13
seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 minutes and 18 seconds!
L586[17:20:24] <Ariri>
Bruh
<Ariri>
BruhL587[17:44:39] ⇦
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L590[17:52:07] <lopezt> does anyone use
the internet component instead of component.internet?
L591[17:52:35] <Inari> What?
L592[17:53:05] <AmandaC> it's simple
Inari, does anybody use the internet component instead of
component.internet
L593[17:53:38] <Inari> I'm
confuzzled
L594[17:54:25] <lopezt> i am trying an
program from the oc boards, and it seems outdated
L595[17:54:54] <lopezt> it uses
internet.open and the handle it gives back throws errors in
/lib/buffer.lua
L596[17:55:01] <Inari> Which?
L597[17:55:08] <lopezt> on :read()
L598[17:55:34] <lopezt> looks like the
internet component doesnt work anymore
L599[17:55:57] <lopezt> and the
component.internet component does have other return types then
internet component
L600[17:56:19] <Inari> Which program
:p
L601[18:01:45] <lopezt> its the
roboserver
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L603[18:08:39] <lopezt> nos: o/
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L607[18:19:47] <lopezt> https://github.com/dunstad/roboserver
L608[18:20:10] <Forecaster>
%sip random
<Forecaster>
%sip randomL609[18:20:11] <MichiBot> You drink a
warpy tomato potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly more
agile.
L610[18:20:17] <Forecaster>
Yay
<Forecaster>
YayL611[18:20:33] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> agiles into bed
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L614[19:16:56] <AmandaC> \o/
L615[19:17:08] <AmandaC> Now I don't have
to include my metadata in the final eeprom image.
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L617[19:34:25] <Ariri>
owo
<Ariri>
owoL618[19:57:16] *
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and irradiate herself until it's reasonable to sleep
L619[19:57:22] <AmandaC> ttfn nerds.
L620[20:48:40] <Izaya> AmandaC: that stuff
changed when I updated routing last, thanks for the heads up
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L622[20:54:59] <AmandaC> Izaya: I've got
no idea why it went from being inconsiquential to tear-my-fur-out
skull-walling bug, but like I said when o fixed that in my mirror
of it the bug went away
L623[20:55:23] <Izaya> old copy is my best
guess
L624[20:56:25] <AmandaC> Izaya: another
thing I changed in the lib though was to use coroutine.yield for
svcpull since I'm using minitel from the non-main thread so using
event.pull was causing double delivery
L625[20:56:46] <Izaya> Ah
L626[20:58:18] <AmandaC> I might try my
hand at tweaking it. I think you might be able to get away with
asking for neo and the service instead of an event pump and the
service, and just start up your own event pump by importing event
yourself from the lib, but I'm not entirely sure
L627[20:59:13] <AmandaC> I'm give it a try
tomorrow unless you manage some kind of breakthrough while I
sleep
L628[20:59:44] <AmandaC> Speaking of,
night nerds, let's see if I sleep well enough tonight to not feel
brain dead most of tomorrow like I did today
L629[20:59:50] <Izaya> Got other work to
do right now tbh
L630[20:59:59] <Izaya> Pull requests are
always welcome!
L631[21:00:00] <AmandaC> Fair enough
L632[21:00:10] <Izaya> And sleep well
o7
L633[21:00:23] <AmandaC> It'll definitely
be a breaking change, just as a warning
L634[21:01:09] <Izaya> You and I are
probably the only people doing anything with Minitel on KOS
:p
L635[21:18:50] <alexandria> %tonk
L636[21:18:51] <MichiBot> Fudge!
alexandria! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 53
minutes and 32 seconds (By 5 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L637[21:18:52] <MichiBot> alexandria's new
record is 3 hours, 58 minutes and 36 seconds! alexandria also
gained 0.00032 (0.00008 x 4) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L638[21:19:04] <alexandria> :>
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L640[21:20:53] <Ariri>
darn
<Ariri>
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L642[21:30:06] <alexandria> Corded: me?
(bad tab expansion?) or ?
L643[22:11:37] <Kodos>
Corded is the IRC <-> Discord bridge bot
<Kodos>
Corded is the IRC <-> Discord bridge botL644[22:13:23] <Izaya> how obnoxious a
nick
L645[22:13:34] <Izaya> an errorneous one,
even
L646[22:14:13] <alexandria> oh, yes, that
line makes sense now
L647[22:14:21] <alexandria> I knew that,
but forgot it??
L648[22:14:22] <alexandria> sigh
L649[22:14:25] <alexandria> 4am
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L653[23:16:04] <Zef> those
damn european capacitors
<Zef> those
damn european capacitorsL654[23:18:16]
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