L1[00:33:29] <Izaya> CompanionCube: the
cleansing crew is doing their best!
L2[00:34:06] <CompanionCube> lol
L3[00:48:02] <stephan48> %tonk
L4[00:48:03] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
stephan48! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 59
minutes and 27 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L5[00:48:04] <MichiBot> stephan48's new
record is 3 hours, 3 minutes and 44 seconds! 4 minutes and 17
seconds gained!
L6[00:48:31] <CompanionCube> nice job
L7[00:50:55] <stephan48> off to work
:D
L8[00:58:26] <Izaya> S3: next time you're on
the server, see if lain.church is a better connection than
shadowkat.net
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L16[03:12:19] 
<Alex404> I
just had the stranges bug. OC cables are notwhere to be seen in my
modpack. Not in Jei, not in creative tabs. The fuck
<Alex404> I
just had the stranges bug. OC cables are notwhere to be seen in my
modpack. Not in Jei, not in creative tabs. The fuckL17[03:12:32] <Alex404> I
just had the strangest bug. OC cables are nowhere to be seen in my
modpack. Not in Jei, not in creative tabs. The fuck [Edited]
<Alex404> I
just had the strangest bug. OC cables are nowhere to be seen in my
modpack. Not in Jei, not in creative tabs. The fuck [Edited]L18[03:12:45] <Izaya> do you have zetta
industries?
L19[03:13:14] <Alex404> No
but this "modpack" its like first time booted and with a
loooot of trimming to do
<Alex404> No
but this "modpack" its like first time booted and with a
loooot of trimming to doL20[03:13:27] <Alex404> it
was just... strange
<Alex404> it
was just... strangeL21[03:13:34] <Izaya> no I mean if you have
ZI that adds its own IE style cables
L22[03:13:41] <Alex404>
didn't know that was possible, to delete a single block from a
mod
<Alex404>
didn't know that was possible, to delete a single block from a
modL23[03:13:58] <Alex404> no
zetta and no IE systems
<Alex404> no
zetta and no IE systemsL24[03:14:11] <Izaya> dunno then, very
bizarre
L25[03:14:30] <Alex404> I
do have the addon for compatibility with gregtechCE.... mmm
<Alex404> I
do have the addon for compatibility with gregtechCE.... mmmL26[03:14:54] ⇨
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L27[03:18:43] <Alex404>
whats the internal name of the block?
<Alex404>
whats the internal name of the block?L28[03:38:56] <Alex404>
nevermind. I've found the block. Its still nowhere to be seen in
creative or in jei
<Alex404>
nevermind. I've found the block. Its still nowhere to be seen in
creative or in jeiL29[03:39:06] <Alex404>
and thats reaally,really strange
<Alex404>
and thats reaally,really strangeL30[03:39:08] <Alex404> oh
well
<Alex404> oh
wellL31[03:39:16] <Alex404> at
least it still exist
<Alex404> at
least it still existL32[03:40:08] <Lizzian>
hmm, anyone know of any dedicated server hosting providers that
offer decent servers (similar spec to my current one [ OVH `EG-64
Server - Xeon E5-1650v3 - 64GB`]) for a slightly more reasonable
price with non-fucked up IPv6 setups (like having the gateway on a
different 'network') and decent failover abilities (OVH's vRACK is
*okay* but doesn't allow me to set any IPv6 range for it and they
also don't give me the option for a `/56` or `/48`
<Lizzian>
hmm, anyone know of any dedicated server hosting providers that
offer decent servers (similar spec to my current one [ OVH `EG-64
Server - Xeon E5-1650v3 - 64GB`]) for a slightly more reasonable
price with non-fucked up IPv6 setups (like having the gateway on a
different 'network') and decent failover abilities (OVH's vRACK is
*okay* but doesn't allow me to set any IPv6 range for it and they
also don't give me the option for a `/56` or `/48`L33[03:40:08] <Lizzian>
subnet)
<Lizzian>
subnet)L34[03:48:31] <stephan48> i would have
recommended hetzner but they don't offer any v6 failover. also they
use ff80::1 as gateway for v6
L35[03:48:45] <stephan48> (i am with them
for atleast 10 years)
L37[04:11:41] <Lizzian>
hmm, some of hetzner's options are looking compelling, seem to be
about 20€ or so cheaper than what i'm currently playing for
<Lizzian>
hmm, some of hetzner's options are looking compelling, seem to be
about 20€ or so cheaper than what i'm currently playing forL38[04:13:36] <Lizzian>
and that was for an AMD Epyc system with 128GB of ECC RAM
<Lizzian>
and that was for an AMD Epyc system with 128GB of ECC RAML39[04:14:55] *
Izaya drools
L40[04:15:09] <Izaya> Considering buying
some more DDR3 so I can run ARK *and* Minecraft on muh server
L41[04:15:36] <Izaya> board caps out at
32GB though x_x
L42[04:16:16] <Lizzian>
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax160/configurator
the one i was looking at
<Lizzian>
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax160/configurator
the one i was looking atL43[05:02:47] ⇦
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L47[05:24:49] <Zef>
%tonk
<Zef>
%tonkL48[05:24:51] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Zef! You beat stephan48's previous record of 3 hours, 3 minutes and
44 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L49[05:24:52] <MichiBot> Zef's new record
is 4 hours, 36 minutes and 46 seconds! 1 hour, 33 minutes and 2
seconds gained!
L50[05:24:58] <Zef>
Haha
<Zef>
HahaL51[05:39:10] ⇦
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L52[05:40:41] <Lizzian>
Frick!
<Lizzian>
Frick!L53[05:41:09] <Forecaster>
Gadsbudlikins!
<Forecaster>
Gadsbudlikins!L54[06:00:36] <Zef>
%loot
<Zef>
%lootL55[06:00:37] <MichiBot> Zef: You get a
loot box! It contains a geode.
L56[06:09:32] <Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL57[06:09:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a boiling yellow potion
L58[06:09:36] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L59[06:09:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster gains
one point of speed.
L60[06:09:41] <Forecaster>
yay
<Forecaster>
yayL61[06:09:51] <Lizzian>
%frink ^
<Lizzian>
%frink ^L62[06:09:54] <Lizzian>
%frink %
<Lizzian>
%frink %L63[06:09:57] <Lizzian>
ffs
<Lizzian>
ffsL64[06:09:59] <Izaya> %drink ^
L65[06:09:59] <MichiBot> Izaya gains one
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L66[06:10:01] <Lizzian>
%drink ^
<Lizzian>
%drink ^L67[06:10:01] <MichiBot> Lizzian gains one
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L68[06:33:51] <MichiBot> AmandaC REMINDER:
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L70[07:03:38] <Inari> .
L71[07:05:34] <Amir_The_Gamer> Hello Everyone
<Amir_The_Gamer> Hello EveryoneL72[07:06:37] <Amir_The_Gamer> Message contained 4 or
more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/unimehojup
<Amir_The_Gamer> Message contained 4 or
more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/unimehojupL73[07:06:58] <Amir_The_Gamer> My Best Is 1.93 MB
<Amir_The_Gamer> My Best Is 1.93 MBL74[07:07:50] ⇦
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L75[07:08:09] <Izaya> Any specific
version?
L76[07:09:17] <Amir_The_Gamer> any
<Amir_The_Gamer> anyL78[07:10:12] ⇨
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L79[07:10:28] <Bob>
oof
<Bob>
oofL80[07:10:46] <Bob> cave
game time
<Bob> cave
game timeL81[07:12:36] <Izaya> I would, but
>discord
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L84[07:20:02] <dequbed> @Lizzian, have you
considered housing? I'm thinking of going down that route simply to
be able to be my own AS and not having to rely on one more or less
capable ~SPoF~company to provide me with network.
L85[07:21:00] <Amir_The_Gamer> welp my minecraft now runs
on only 1.69 mb
<Amir_The_Gamer> welp my minecraft now runs
on only 1.69 mbL86[07:22:00] <dequbed> Also, BYOB as long
as it fits inside a 19" rack means POWER servers as
well.
L88[07:28:43] <Bob> Why
are there Lua 5.2 and 5.3 in OC and what are the differences
?
<Bob> Why
are there Lua 5.2 and 5.3 in OC and what are the differences
?L89[07:29:07] <Forecaster>
they're different versions and 5.2 exists for legacy purposes
<Forecaster>
they're different versions and 5.2 exists for legacy purposesL90[07:29:18] <Bob>
okay
<Bob>
okayL91[07:29:29] <Bob> i
guess ill stick to the newest then
<Bob> i
guess ill stick to the newest thenL92[07:34:35] <Lizzian>
dequbed, by 'housing' do you mean colocation? I was looking into
that but quite a few bits are confusing (or at least they are when
i'm trying to skim read through marketing talk)#
<Lizzian>
dequbed, by 'housing' do you mean colocation? I was looking into
that but quite a few bits are confusing (or at least they are when
i'm trying to skim read through marketing talk)#L93[07:35:50] <deceased>
Is there a premade encryption algorithm for OC instead of having to
use Data chips?
<deceased>
Is there a premade encryption algorithm for OC instead of having to
use Data chips?L94[07:36:13] <deceased>
AES 256 perhaps.
<deceased>
AES 256 perhaps.L95[07:36:19] <dequbed> @Lizzian, jup. And
yes - it is a different beast than renting a server directly. You
pay for much more stuff, you have to do much more stuff yourself,
you have to provide the HW, etc. But you get much higher
flexibility, much higer stability and lower cost in the long term
(if you have enough servers that is)
L96[07:36:42] <Bob> pings
dont work oof
<Bob> pings
dont work oofL97[07:36:57] <Lizzian>
they do, but not with a comma at the end of my name
<Lizzian>
they do, but not with a comma at the end of my nameL98[07:37:21] <dequbed> You've received it
so good enough for government work.
L99[07:37:29] <Bob> oh
oof
<Bob> oh
oofL100[07:38:22] <Lizzian>
dequbed, yeah, right now i only have one server cause that's all I
can really affort (i mean, i could rent a whole lot more but i'll
end up being able to support myself even less than i can now)
<Lizzian>
dequbed, yeah, right now i only have one server cause that's all I
can really affort (i mean, i could rent a whole lot more but i'll
end up being able to support myself even less than i can now)L101[07:38:41] <dequbed> Well yes - but
pooling is a thing :p
L102[07:38:52] <Lizzian>
pooling?
<Lizzian>
pooling?L103[07:39:38] <Skye> So basically a group
of people working together to pay for it?
L104[07:39:47] <dequbed> I'm looking at
housing for servers atm and I'm at 4HU for a storage server and
another 1-2 for an proper server. At that point it's cheaper to
just rent 1/4 of a rack.
L105[07:40:25] <dequbed> If you do the
maths, 42HU/4 /= 6HU :p
L106[07:41:21] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
is confused by this HU measurement. is it just another way of
saying U meaning Unit? (like, what servers are advertised as for
their height)
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L108[07:42:24] <dequbed> In german it's HE
for Hoeheneinheit. I did the lazy thing and translated it directly
without looking up the proper word. I guess just Unit is more
common in english.
L109[07:42:35] <Lizzian>
ah, okay
<Lizzian>
ah, okayL110[07:42:41] <Lizzian>
that makes more sense now
<Lizzian>
that makes more sense nowL111[07:42:56] <stephan48> Hight
Units
L112[07:43:20] <Skye> I can't afford
servers :<
L113[07:43:43] <stephan48> being not
willing/able to affort more currently means i have a midsized
hetzner server from the EX line with a onsite for backup :D
L114[07:44:10] <stephan48> i would like to
do much more(especially networking and storage wise, not just some
VPN and virtual machine stuff) but heh
L115[07:46:35] <Skye> I borrow a VPS on
Lizzian's server for Web hosting and use mailbox.org for
email.
L116[07:47:25] <Lizzy> I want the have the
ability to live-failover my VMs so i can do host maintenance when i
need to. Currently with OVH I *could* have stuff migrate and ipv4
traffic would be mostly unaffected, but the v6 block I have is only
on the host server so i can't fail that over and has lead to the
VMs having separate v4&v6 network interfaces
L117[07:47:32] <stephan48> i was thinking
about using hetzners cloud feature - running many small vms
interlinked with each other
L118[07:47:35] <Z0idburg> I
have dedicated OVH servers running FreeBSD for hosting virtual
machines and pay a few $ every month for tiny VPSes elsewhere for
redundant DNS, email etc.
<Z0idburg> I
have dedicated OVH servers running FreeBSD for hosting virtual
machines and pay a few $ every month for tiny VPSes elsewhere for
redundant DNS, email etc.L119[07:47:54] <stephan48> yes Lizzy thats
my endgoal when i got $$$
L120[07:48:03] <Z0idburg>
My newest dedi I am working at paying $10or so a month for storage
VPSes that are external
<Z0idburg>
My newest dedi I am working at paying $10or so a month for storage
VPSes that are externalL121[07:48:15] <Z0idburg>
and using ZFS with iscsi and caching to cluster them
<Z0idburg>
and using ZFS with iscsi and caching to cluster themL122[07:48:54] <stephan48> for now reboot
secure config and a kubernetes cluster on the single hardware(still
in planing) to minimize the general vm count together with nightly
backups have to do
L123[07:49:25] <Lizzy> And a step-up from
that would be having a separate network storage box that'd be fast
enough for the VMs to use so the disks wont go down with a server
should one fail
L124[07:49:35] <stephan48> (running
multiple vms + one kubernetes master)
L125[07:49:48] <Z0idburg> I
don't worry about backups, if you need a backup backup the vps
manually. the dedicated VM server I can roll out in an hour
<Z0idburg> I
don't worry about backups, if you need a backup backup the vps
manually. the dedicated VM server I can roll out in an hourL126[07:49:49] <stephan48> ah yea
L127[07:49:53] <Z0idburg>
back the way it was
<Z0idburg>
back the way it wasL128[07:49:59] <Z0idburg>
or less than
<Z0idburg>
or less thanL129[07:50:11] <stephan48> yes my main use
case is getting a recent backup back.
L130[07:50:28] <Lizzy> I really need to
set up VM backups on my dedi.....
L131[07:50:36] <Skye> I know someone who
has managed to make anycast (with IPv6) work, I wish I could do
that one day but there are so many road blocks...
L132[07:50:51] <Z0idburg>
How do you store your vms? when I used Slackware for Xen I stored
them in LVM
<Z0idburg>
How do you store your vms? when I used Slackware for Xen I stored
them in LVML133[07:50:57] <Z0idburg>
so it made it easy to resize / copy them
<Z0idburg>
so it made it easy to resize / copy themL134[07:51:07] <stephan48> i.e. quickly
rolling out a point in time X. for more granular backups i got a
backuppc setup which i use to makepropper in vm backups
L135[07:51:19] <stephan48> the nightlies
are just LVM copies via borgbackup
L136[07:51:20] <Z0idburg>
on FreeBSD I can create storage pools or whatever
<Z0idburg>
on FreeBSD I can create storage pools or whateverL137[07:51:27] <Lizzy> qcow2 files, some
on my server's SSD array and some on the harddrive array (that
don't need a super fast disk)
L138[07:51:32] <stephan48> Skye: i kind of
did that :D
L139[07:51:58] <Skye> Shame IPv4 addresses
are expensive
L140[07:52:07] <stephan48> i got a
seperate AS + v6 network and i am announcing it via hurricane
electric and vultr VMs
L141[07:52:15] <stephan48> hurricane
electric tunnel*
L142[07:52:40] <Lizzy> I think my bank of
IPs cost about £5 at most, and i think that was only a one-time
purchase
L143[07:52:43] <stephan48> via VPN/tunnel
they terminate on the central router VM and from there i basically
can give all my VMs v6 access
L144[07:52:53] <Z0idburg>
Yeah I'm currently working on my remote storage project lately.
Working at setting up my SSDs as ZFS cache and netbooting the
dedi
<Z0idburg>
Yeah I'm currently working on my remote storage project lately.
Working at setting up my SSDs as ZFS cache and netbooting the
dediL145[07:54:10] <stephan48> i pay about
8(8x1 /32)+16(1x/28) € per month for IP space with hetzner
L146[07:54:33] <Lizzy> I also want to
somehow deploy a transparent firewall between my VMs and the outer
internet so i can more effectively block out IPs that try and break
into my servers in sequence
L147[07:54:41] <Z0idburg>
It's so nice that now Xen dom0 support has matured in FreeBSD I
don't need to use Linux anymore for my dedicated servers to run
VMs
<Z0idburg>
It's so nice that now Xen dom0 support has matured in FreeBSD I
don't need to use Linux anymore for my dedicated servers to run
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L149[07:55:06] <Z0idburg>
I've done that before Lizzy ?
<Z0idburg>
I've done that before Lizzy ?L150[07:55:20] <stephan48> Lizzy: for me i
solved that by having a central VM(called proxyvm) which controls
the complete traffic of all virtual machines
L151[07:55:30] <Z0idburg>
we used to even connect up tinc and stuff with ipv6 for them
<Z0idburg>
we used to even connect up tinc and stuff with ipv6 for themL152[07:55:40] <Wattana
Gaming> ok I think OpenGL is officially ded
<Wattana
Gaming> ok I think OpenGL is officially dedL153[07:55:42] <stephan48> also it does
stuff like VPN links to servers of friends and so on. dn42
L154[07:55:51] <Z0idburg>
OpenGL is not dead
<Z0idburg>
OpenGL is not deadL155[07:56:01] <stephan48> this way i can
easily pull the plug or disable hosts who annoy me.
L156[07:56:06] <dequbed> stephan48: Oh,
you're one of the dn42 guys? neat :)
L157[07:56:11] <Skye> The smallest group
of IPv4 you can use BGP on the Internet and not be ignored with is
1024, IIRC?
L159[07:56:18] <stephan48> yup AS64674 or
something :D
L160[07:56:33] <stephan48> i still have to
write a reporting interface so my VMs can report SSH attackers to
be blocked
L161[07:56:47] <Z0idburg>
Hmmmm
<Z0idburg>
HmmmmL162[07:56:51] <stephan48> yea thats the
issue Skye with luck a /24
L163[07:56:57] <Z0idburg>
I'm pretty sure vulkan is nothing like direct x
<Z0idburg>
I'm pretty sure vulkan is nothing like direct xL164[07:57:01] <stephan48> but you need to
get that first
L165[07:57:28] <Z0idburg>
And vulkan also may end up being used as OpenGLs underlying
codebase eventually
<Z0idburg>
And vulkan also may end up being used as OpenGLs underlying
codebase eventuallyL166[07:57:38] <dequbed> stephan48: Do
yourself a favour and collect all IPs and dump them into
blocklist.de regularly.
L167[07:57:42] <stephan48> i do
L168[07:57:43] <stephan48> :D
L169[07:57:51] <Wattana
Gaming> DirectX is an optimized graphics API for Windows. and
Vulkan is the same but cross-platform and it give Linux games the
**S P E E D**
<Wattana
Gaming> DirectX is an optimized graphics API for Windows. and
Vulkan is the same but cross-platform and it give Linux games the
**S P E E D**L170[07:57:57] <stephan48> thats also a
process i wanna streamline
L171[07:57:58] <Lizzy> yeah, a central vm
is what i'll probably go for cause I may also somehow be able to
set it up so that i can have the firewall vm have the two seperate
v4&v6 interfaces but then provide just one to the rest of the
vms which would make setup so much easier
L172[07:58:11] <stephan48> look into
network namespaces
L173[07:58:16] <stephan48> brb
L174[07:58:46] <Skye> Meanwhile I feel
proud at wiring up an ehternet cable from my home router to my PC
because WiFi is bad and my old cable broke
L175[07:58:54] <dequbed> Lizzy: Also use
nft instead of iptables so you don't have completely seperate
firewalls for v4 and v6.
L176[07:58:55] <Z0idburg>
in our case we used the dedi to do outer firewall and routing
<Z0idburg>
in our case we used the dedi to do outer firewall and routingL177[07:59:06] *
Lizzy should probably start reporting some of the IPs that hit her
servers, cause some are OVH/Digital Oceans
L178[07:59:09] <Z0idburg>
and used layer 2 instead of layer 3 for our vm interfaces
<Z0idburg>
and used layer 2 instead of layer 3 for our vm interfacesL179[07:59:17] <Wattana
Gaming> well WiFi is useless for gaming and streaming
anyway
<Wattana
Gaming> well WiFi is useless for gaming and streaming
anywayL180[07:59:19] <Z0idburg>
with a layer 2 network we could build on top of
<Z0idburg>
with a layer 2 network we could build on top ofL181[07:59:28] <Z0idburg>
we provided two networks for VMs
<Z0idburg>
we provided two networks for VMsL182[07:59:36] <Z0idburg>
and internal and an external and not all VMs had both
<Z0idburg>
and internal and an external and not all VMs had bothL183[07:59:56] <Lizzy> my vms are set up
and connected to bridges made with iproute2
L184[08:00:19] <Z0idburg>
being able to use the routing table gives you a lot of power
<Z0idburg>
being able to use the routing table gives you a lot of powerL185[08:00:24] <Lizzy> one for the
server's primary interface (which has the v6) and one for the vrack
interface (v4 only and network for the vms)
L186[08:00:33] <Lizzy> dequbed: will look
at nft
L187[08:00:37] <dequbed> Lizzy:
blocklist.de is a fail2ban etc aggregate. So instead of annoying
the network admins with a thousand abuse mails about a few IPs they
get one aggregate with a neat list of IPs that have attacked many
people.
L188[08:00:52] <Z0idburg>
netfilter is okay
<Z0idburg>
netfilter is okayL189[08:01:13] <dequbed> And yes, OVH and
DigitalOcean are cooperating very closely with blocklist.
L190[08:01:24] <Z0idburg>
But I don't have to worry about it now that I just use pf
everywhere ?
<Z0idburg>
But I don't have to worry about it now that I just use pf
everywhere ?L191[08:01:26] <Wattana
Gaming> am I stupid. I dont understand the conversation at
all
<Wattana
Gaming> am I stupid. I dont understand the conversation at
allL192[08:01:38] <Lizzy> probably
L193[08:01:43] <Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming
<Z0idburg>
@Wattana GamingL194[08:01:44] <dequbed> No, you are
ignorant. Not quite the same.
L195[08:01:53] <Z0idburg> I
stream 4K gaming on 2.4Ghz wifi remotely as remote desktop
<Z0idburg> I
stream 4K gaming on 2.4Ghz wifi remotely as remote desktopL196[08:01:56] <Z0idburg>
it works fine
<Z0idburg>
it works fineL197[08:02:12] <Skye> Our house is pretty
bad for WiFi
L198[08:02:27] <Lizzy> hmm, okay i'll make
a note to start reporting OVH/DO's ones when i get them through,
cause Fail2ban is set up to give me WHOIS info on the IP
L199[08:02:44] <Z0idburg> I
have to have multiple wifi access points in stretegic places
<Z0idburg> I
have to have multiple wifi access points in stretegic placesL200[08:02:51] <dequbed> Also, @wattana
Gaming properly set up WiFi is decent for low latency high
bandwidth. Properly set up wired networking is *better* but that
does not make WiFi useless.
L201[08:02:55] <Z0idburg>
because our walls are lead filled plaster
<Z0idburg>
because our walls are lead filled plasterL202[08:03:22]
⇨ Joins: Thutmose
(Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com)
L203[08:03:39] <Z0idburg>
Most devices that provide wifi are shitty
<Z0idburg>
Most devices that provide wifi are shittyL204[08:03:47] <Z0idburg>
because they are built using shitty hardware
<Z0idburg>
because they are built using shitty hardwareL205[08:03:53] <Z0idburg>
doesnt make wifi useless in general
<Z0idburg>
doesnt make wifi useless in generalL206[08:04:11] <Z0idburg>
remember wifi uses radio
<Z0idburg>
remember wifi uses radioL207[08:04:58] <Lizzy> nftables looks like
something i need to read into when i have some spare time and am
not at work
L208[08:05:08] <Z0idburg>
electromagnetic systems are not so easy to make with todays
demands
<Z0idburg>
electromagnetic systems are not so easy to make with todays
demandsL209[08:05:25] <Lizzy> %remindme 3h
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nftables
L210[08:05:28] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nftables"
at 02/13/2019 11:05:24 AM
L211[08:05:47] <dequbed> Lizzy: Yes,
nftables is the more flexible and thus more complex replacement for
the netfilter subsystem. It *is* however in the kernel since
2014.
L212[08:05:49] <Skye> I need a time
machine
L213[08:06:18] <Z0idburg> I
don't know about these daus
<Z0idburg> I
don't know about these dausL214[08:06:28] <Z0idburg>
but a few years ago netfilter was horrible to find documentation
for
<Z0idburg>
but a few years ago netfilter was horrible to find documentation
forL215[08:06:43] <Z0idburg>
I'm sure it's at least a little better now
<Z0idburg>
I'm sure it's at least a little better nowL216[08:07:10] <Skye> I need more time so
I can do everything I want and need to do
L217[08:07:14] <AmandaC> Skye: lemme know
when you find one, and when it's my turn, I've got to skip ahead a
few weeks so I have a decent chunk of story to read in all my
various stories.
L218[08:07:23] <Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEYveSssok&feature=em-uploademail
http://tinyurl.com/y6t4nlkq
<Inari 『 おにいでれ
』> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEYveSssok&feature=em-uploademail
http://tinyurl.com/y6t4nlkqL219[08:08:05] <dequbed> Lizzy: Reminds
me, nftables is slow and bad. Real programmers write their firewall
in C and compile it to BPF! /s :p
L220[08:08:52] <Lizzy> brb, need to go get
a bracket down from a classroom
L221[08:08:58] <Z0idburg>
and then get compromised because they wrote it in C and
<Z0idburg>
and then get compromised because they wrote it in C andL222[08:09:08] <Skye> Real programmers
etch their rules into silicon
L223[08:09:15] <dequbed> @Z0idburg that's
not how BPF works .-.
L224[08:09:28] <Z0idburg>
real programmers say fuck security it's somebody elses job
<Z0idburg>
real programmers say fuck security it's somebody elses jobL225[08:09:36] <Z0idburg> I
don't care dequbed that's not the joke
<Z0idburg> I
don't care dequbed that's not the jokeL226[08:09:41] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L227[08:09:51] <dequbed> Hey, you got my
nick right \o/
L228[08:10:20] <Skye> Real programmers air
gap their computers
L229[08:10:23] ⇦
Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com)
(Quit: Leaving.)
L230[08:11:00] <dequbed> Real Hackers hack
air gapped computers via power glitching the mains power to get
RCE.
L231[08:11:54] <Z0idburg>
Real programmers distract real hackers by giving real hackers
onions
<Z0idburg>
Real programmers distract real hackers by giving real hackers
onionsL232[08:12:14] <AmandaC> Real Programmers
use butterflies
L233[08:12:33] <Z0idburg>
ok miss xkcdd
<Z0idburg>
ok miss xkcddL234[08:12:35] <Skye> Real programmers
power their computers using solar panels and truck batteries and an
inverter
L235[08:12:54] <Z0idburg>
not trains?
<Z0idburg>
not trains?L236[08:13:02] <Bob> *and
what about carpeted capacitors*
<Bob> *and
what about carpeted capacitors*L237[08:13:07] <Forecaster>
%xkcd
<Forecaster>
%xkcdL238[08:13:08] <dequbed> Real hackers use
a $5 wrench.
L239[08:13:15] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL240[08:13:24] <Forecaster>
hm
<Forecaster>
hmL241[08:13:39] <AmandaC> Holy shit.
L242[08:13:41] <AmandaC> HOLY SHIT.
L243[08:13:56] <Z0idburg> S
H I T I S H O L Y
<Z0idburg> S
H I T I S H O L YL244[08:13:57] <AmandaC> I just realised
why there's Ms and Mrs for female honorifics, but only Mr for
male
L245[08:14:14] <AmandaC> Because of the
practice of a female adopting their male partner's last name.
L246[08:14:18] <Skye> Real programmers
just set up the universe so the result is what they want.
L247[08:14:23] <Z0idburg>
you only just realized that?
<Z0idburg>
you only just realized that?L248[08:14:33] <AmandaC> I've never put
much thought into it until now
L249[08:14:39] <AmandaC> Given the
direction I swing
L250[08:15:09] <Z0idburg>
Whick Skye is hacked together with Perl
<Z0idburg>
Whick Skye is hacked together with PerlL251[08:15:13] <Z0idburg>
which*
<Z0idburg>
which*L252[08:15:30] <AmandaC> Don't be silly, I
wrote the universe in Visual basic
L253[08:15:45] <Z0idburg> O
< G
<Z0idburg> O
< GL254[08:15:51] <AmandaC> ( Not VB.NET,
Just VB )
L255[08:15:53] <Skye> AmandaC: Ms is a new
thing, it used to only be Miss and Mrs, but Ms is a new thing
because people didn't like the distinction, obviously
L256[08:15:58] <Z0idburg>
MY EYES ARE BLEEDING
<Z0idburg>
MY EYES ARE BLEEDINGL257[08:16:12] <Z0idburg>
UNLOAD ME
<Z0idburg>
UNLOAD MEL258[08:16:24] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL259[08:16:36] <Z0idburg>
dont put in unload me
<Z0idburg>
dont put in unload meL260[08:16:41] <Z0idburg>
whatever you do
<Z0idburg>
whatever you doL261[08:16:47] <AmandaC> Skye: I just
assumed it was a shortening, like Ms = Miss, Mrs = Misses
L262[08:16:48] *
Skye kicks Zoidburg off of the stack
L263[08:16:56] <dequbed> AmandaC: Actually
Mrs was used because one would address a married woman as "the
wife of <Name>" or short "Mrs. <Name>"
while Ms. is short for Mistress i.e. general. But your explanation
is nice too
L264[08:17:27] <Skye> Isn't that
explanation the same thing basically?
L265[08:17:40] <dequbed> Ms. is *very*
much not a modern thing.
L266[08:17:41] <stephan48> yes just a bit
more verbose :D
L267[08:18:01] <dequbed> And its not about
the last name. One would say Mrs John Smith.
L268[08:18:05] <Z0idburg> I
use ms
<Z0idburg> I
use msL269[08:18:06] <Skye> Miss - unmarried,
Mrs - married, also assumed name change, Ms - can't tell
L270[08:18:09] <Z0idburg>
all the time
<Z0idburg>
all the timeL271[08:18:14] <Skye> Ah
L272[08:18:19] <Skye> I stand
corrected
L273[08:18:52] <AmandaC> Man, Language is
weird. Espically English, which is just three languages in a
trenchcoat.
L274[08:19:11] <Z0idburg>
overmorrow you will find you
<Z0idburg>
overmorrow you will find youL275[08:19:13] <Z0idburg>
overmorrow
<Z0idburg>
overmorrowL276[08:19:18] <Z0idburg>
XD
<Z0idburg>
XDL277[08:19:21] <AmandaC> Why can't
everything have a sane syntax, and mostly-consitent rules, like
programming. ( Except Perl )
L278[08:19:38] <Forecaster>
%potion
<Forecaster>
%potionL279[08:19:39] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a fluffy tuna potion
L280[08:19:43] <Forecaster>
%drink ^
<Forecaster>
%drink ^L281[08:19:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster loses
one point of strength.
L282[08:19:47] <Forecaster>
aw
<Forecaster>
awL283[08:19:53] <Lizzy> and back
L284[08:19:57] <AmandaC> %potion
L285[08:19:57] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You get
a runny lime potion
L286[08:20:00] <AmandaC> ...
L287[08:20:05] *
AmandaC hands it to Inari
L288[08:20:17] <Z0idburg>
Lizzay, AmandaC discovered the science of Ms. vs Mrs. while you are
gone
<Z0idburg>
Lizzay, AmandaC discovered the science of Ms. vs Mrs. while you are
goneL289[08:20:21] <Skye> What does it
do?
L290[08:20:29] <AmandaC> No idea, I just
don't like the look of it
L291[08:20:31] <Z0idburg>
oops sorry typed your name
<Z0idburg>
oops sorry typed your nameL292[08:20:45] <Inari> AmandaC: Huh?
:o
L293[08:20:47] <Skye> %drink ^
L294[08:20:47] <MichiBot> Skye gains an
additional bone.
L295[08:20:48] <Forecaster>
Lizzaaaay
<Forecaster>
LizzaaaayL296[08:20:50] <Skye> Um
L297[08:20:52] <Skye> OK
L298[08:20:56] <Z0idburg> I
didnt mean to!
<Z0idburg> I
didnt mean to!L299[08:21:01] <Inari> "bone",
eh
L300[08:21:06] *
dequbed hands AmandaC Lojban
L301[08:21:17] <AmandaC> dequbed: you
kidding? I barely speak english.
L302[08:21:18] <Z0idburg>
whatevs
<Z0idburg>
whatevsL303[08:21:25] <AmandaC> And I'm too old
to learn a new language
L304[08:21:34] <dequbed> AmandaC: You were
the one wanting a sane language with defined syntax.
L305[08:21:37] <dequbed> Lojban is
that.
L306[08:21:55] <AmandaC> It's also only
spoken fluently by like a couple dozen people
L307[08:21:56] <Z0idburg>
dequbed: Ne, vi duvas lernu la Esperanton lingvo jes?
<Z0idburg>
dequbed: Ne, vi duvas lernu la Esperanton lingvo jes?L308[08:22:01] <stephan48> lets just all
speak perl.
L309[08:22:02] <Skye> Screaming is the
universal language
L310[08:22:03] <Z0idburg>
:>
<Z0idburg>
:>L311[08:22:31] <dequbed> @Z0idburg
Esperanto is nice but does not fit that criteria. It has other
things going for it, e.g. native speakers.
L312[08:22:34] <stephan48> Perl is
universally understood and the constructs are easy to grasp. there
is no amiquity
L313[08:22:46] <Lizzy> %remindme 3h add
"Lizz+(a|y)+" to hilight list
L314[08:22:47] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "add "Lizz+(a|y)+" to hilight list" at
02/13/2019 11:22:46 AM
L315[08:22:59] <stephan48> :D
L316[08:23:00] <AmandaC> hehehe
L317[08:23:00] <Z0idburg> I
like Esperanto because it is not as seriously ambiguous as English
but it has just enough to feel natural
<Z0idburg> I
like Esperanto because it is not as seriously ambiguous as English
but it has just enough to feel naturalL318[08:23:06] <AmandaC>
Lizzaaaayyyy
L319[08:23:08] <dequbed> Lizzy: Add
Lizzaly to your hilight list.
L320[08:23:10] <Z0idburg>
Loljban is like a language without feeling
<Z0idburg>
Loljban is like a language without feelingL321[08:23:17] <Z0idburg>
it's so artificial sounding
<Z0idburg>
it's so artificial soundingL322[08:23:20] <simon816> https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=663393
L323[08:23:45] <Z0idburg>
with that said, loljban may be useful as a spoken language that
machines can understand
<Z0idburg>
with that said, loljban may be useful as a spoken language that
machines can understandL324[08:23:55] <dequbed> @Z0idburg have
you considered that Esperanto is just 15 languages in a trenchcoat
and Lojban is a logic based language?
L325[08:24:07] <Z0idburg> I
know this
<Z0idburg> I
know thisL326[08:24:31] <Z0idburg>
but that's why I don't like Loljban for general speaking
<Z0idburg>
but that's why I don't like Loljban for general speakingL327[08:24:36] <Z0idburg>
it's too logic based
<Z0idburg>
it's too logic basedL328[08:24:54] <Lizzy> %remindme 3h
"Lizzaly" too
L329[08:24:54] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about ""Lizzaly" too" at 02/13/2019 11:24:53
AM
L330[08:24:57] <AmandaC> I don't like
perl, because I don't think just sequentially printing the visible
section of the ASCII table should be a valid program
L331[08:24:58] <Forecaster>
anyone can understand any language if you yell loud enough
<Forecaster>
anyone can understand any language if you yell loud enoughL332[08:25:13] <Z0idburg>
LOL
<Z0idburg>
LOLL333[08:25:14] <Lizzy> ASTRIA PORTA!
L334[08:25:22] <stephan48> simon816: thats
why i like perl!
L335[08:25:46] <stephan48> AmandaC: thats
why i like perl!
L336[08:25:49] <stephan48> :D
L337[08:25:56] <Z0idburg>
AmandaC, I have strayed away mostly from imperative practices but
Perl is still one of my imperative favorites. I think that the
versatility of the syntax is very charming.
<Z0idburg>
AmandaC, I have strayed away mostly from imperative practices but
Perl is still one of my imperative favorites. I think that the
versatility of the syntax is very charming.L338[08:26:19] <Z0idburg> I
wrote in Perl for years as my primary even while I used others such
as C
<Z0idburg> I
wrote in Perl for years as my primary even while I used others such
as CL339[08:27:01] <Skye> Lizzaaaaay
L340[08:27:10] <Z0idburg>
this lizzy thing has gotten out of hand
<Z0idburg>
this lizzy thing has gotten out of handL341[08:27:10] <Z0idburg>
XD
<Z0idburg>
XDL342[08:27:16] <Z0idburg>
What did I start....
<Z0idburg>
What did I start....L343[08:27:26] <Forecaster>
the end-times
<Forecaster>
the end-timesL344[08:27:47] <stephan48>
"oops"
L345[08:27:58] <Z0idburg>
Most of the software I write these days besides my Lua project on
OC is written in Elixir
<Z0idburg>
Most of the software I write these days besides my Lua project on
OC is written in ElixirL346[08:27:58] <AmandaC> Ragnarok does not
start with a betrayal, but with a bad phonetic meme
L347[08:28:02] <Skye>
Llllliiiizzzzzzaaaaallllllyyyy
L348[08:28:08] <Z0idburg> I
find Elixir to be quite amazing
<Z0idburg> I
find Elixir to be quite amazingL349[08:28:33] <Lizzy> ||irc to discord
spoiler test||
L350[08:28:34] <Z0idburg> I
highly respect Erlang, its fundamental language
<Z0idburg> I
highly respect Erlang, its fundamental languageL351[08:28:41] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot A
sapling of Yyggdrisil
L352[08:28:41] *
MichiBot accepts the sapling of Yyggdrisil and adds it to her
inventory
L353[08:28:44] <Lizzy> hmm, sot hat works.
interesting
L354[08:28:51] <Lizzy> %loot
L355[08:28:51] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a
loot box! It contains an eraser.
L356[08:28:57] <Lizzy> %tonk
L357[08:28:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat Zef's record of 4 hours, 36 minutes and
46 seconds this time.
L358[08:28:58] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 4
minutes and 7 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 32 minutes and
39 seconds!
L359[08:29:02] <Lizzy> ah bugger
L360[08:29:14] <Z0idburg>
As always I avoid C like the plague
<Z0idburg>
As always I avoid C like the plagueL361[08:29:17] <Z0idburg>
it's very dangerous
<Z0idburg>
it's very dangerousL362[08:29:27] <Lizzy> maybe your the
C
L363[08:29:34] <AmandaC> I use Go for
pretty much everything that isn't Lua-based
L364[08:29:36] <Skye> L*i*z*a?*l?*y*
L365[08:29:36] <dequbed> AmandaC: Isn't it
spelled Yggdrasil(l)?
L366[08:29:45] <AmandaC> dequbed: no idea.
:D
L367[08:29:58] <Z0idburg>
Lizzy: I'm dangerous?! ?
<Z0idburg>
Lizzy: I'm dangerous?! ?L368[08:30:06] <Lizzy> %remindme 3h
L*i*z*a?*l?*y* possibly?
L369[08:30:07] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "L*i*z*a?*l?*y* possibly?" at 02/13/2019 11:30:06
AM
L370[08:30:18] <Lizzy> i'ma be so pissed
off with these reminders later
L371[08:30:29] *
Skye headpay Liiiizzy
L372[08:30:34] *
Lizzy purrrrs
L373[08:30:37] <AmandaC> Both %remindme
and %tell need a sed function
L374[08:31:01] <Lizzy> %s/need/bacon
L375[08:31:01] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
Both %remindme and %tell bacon a sed function
L376[08:31:02] <AmandaC> I don't have the
claws to count how many times my %tells to inari could be enhanced
by that
L377[08:31:08] <dequbed> Lizzy: What, C is
a *completely* reasonable language to parse https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dequbed/C/master/macro_redirection/m4.c
L378[08:31:31] <Lizzy> wtf.
L379[08:31:38] <dequbed> C.
L380[08:31:38] <Z0idburg> C
is actually very tiny
<Z0idburg> C
is actually very tinyL381[08:31:43] <Z0idburg>
there isn't much to it
<Z0idburg>
there isn't much to itL382[08:31:50] <dequbed> Lizzy: Run it,
it's not dangerous.
L383[08:32:08] <Lizzy> I don't have a C
compiler at work
L384[08:32:17] <Lizzy> or rather
L385[08:32:23] <Lizzy> i don't have one
set up
L386[08:32:32] <dequbed> Do you even *nix?
0.0
L387[08:32:44] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL388[08:33:01] <Lizzy> i do
L389[08:33:05] <Lizzy> just not at
work
L390[08:33:13] <Lizzy> because work is
primerily windows
L391[08:33:32] <Z0idburg>
dequbed you are so hilarious half the time
<Z0idburg>
dequbed you are so hilarious half the timeL392[08:34:04] <Lizzy> my sarcasm detector
detected that
L393[08:34:18] <dequbed> ^ that's sayin'
something.
L394[08:34:23] <stephan48> and then he
starts speaking?
L395[08:34:40] <Z0idburg>
ok where the hell did she put the brown sugar
<Z0idburg>
ok where the hell did she put the brown sugarL396[08:34:42] <stephan48> did Z0idburg
just break his system?
L397[08:35:23] <Lizzy> *goes to internal
estates helpdesk* why is half the page not here.... *looks at
noscript* oh....
L398[08:35:23] <AmandaC> Oh, what a nice
V. Day present for myself. My replacement laptop fan comes
in.
L399[08:36:04] <dequbed> Isn't valentines
day the 14th? <.<
L400[08:36:15] <AmandaC> Yes,
tomorrow
L401[08:36:22] <AmandaC> The Fan comes in
tomorrow
L402[08:36:25] <dequbed> Ah okay
L403[08:36:40] <AmandaC> UPS just sent me
a notification about it arriving tomorrow. :P
L404[08:37:36] <Z0idburg>
stephan48 who what
<Z0idburg>
stephan48 who whatL405[08:37:39] <stephan48> dequbed:
fileio? :D gcc -E is a nice thing.
L406[08:37:49] <AmandaC> Protip for people
who take apare their machine to make sure the power socket is
properly secured, make sure that you don't lose your grip on your
phone, causing it to fall square onto the cooling fan
L407[08:38:11] <stephan48> oops.
L408[08:38:21] <Z0idburg>
phone?
<Z0idburg>
phone?L409[08:38:24] <AmandaC> ~50$ for a
replacement part, though, so that's going for me
L410[08:38:30] <AmandaC> %stab
@Z0idburg
L411[08:38:30] *
MichiBot stabs @Z0idburg with payo mayo doing 6 damage
L412[08:38:32] <dequbed> stephan48:
fileio?
L413[08:38:36] <Z0idburg>
whaaat
<Z0idburg>
whaaatL414[08:38:42] <AmandaC> Stop pretending
it's normal these days to not have a cellphone, damnit
L415[08:38:49] <Z0idburg>
my phone doesnt plug into the wall power outlet
<Z0idburg>
my phone doesnt plug into the wall power outletL416[08:39:35] <Z0idburg>
it is normal
<Z0idburg>
it is normalL417[08:39:35] <AmandaC> Even my
tech-illiterate grandmother with dimentia had a damn cell phone
before she passed this last december. :|
L418[08:39:50] <Z0idburg>
yes but
<Z0idburg>
yes butL419[08:39:56] <Z0idburg>
you have service
<Z0idburg>
you have serviceL420[08:40:08] <Z0idburg>
good luck getting good service here
<Z0idburg>
good luck getting good service hereL421[08:40:16] <Skye> Guess what is shaped
like a credit card, is made of paper card and it costs £127 to have
8 of them mailed to you?
L422[08:40:29] <AmandaC> RFID tags,
Skye?
L423[08:40:37] <Z0idburg>
travel cards?
<Z0idburg>
travel cards?L424[08:40:57] <Skye> Zoidburg is the
closest
L425[08:41:00] <Z0idburg>
calling cards?
<Z0idburg>
calling cards?L426[08:41:05] <AmandaC> Insurance
cards?
L427[08:41:20] <AmandaC> Wait, That
doesn't make sense for that currency
L428[08:41:26] <Z0idburg>
train tickets
<Z0idburg>
train ticketsL429[08:41:39] <dequbed> What the fuck are
you making your calling cards from Z0idburg and how fucking cheap
is your insurance AmandaC?
L430[08:42:01] <AmandaC> dequebed The
price wouldn't be for the insurance, but for a replacement card.
I'
L431[08:42:04] <Z0idburg> I
dont need calling cards
<Z0idburg> I
dont need calling cardsL432[08:42:10] <Skye> Train tickets
L433[08:42:15] <AmandaC> m sure they'll
reap every penny out of us as possible for them
L434[08:42:17] <Z0idburg> I
pay for unlimited long distance
<Z0idburg> I
pay for unlimited long distanceL435[08:42:45] <Z0idburg> I
said train tickets!
<Z0idburg> I
said train tickets!L436[08:42:58] <stephan48> dequbed: never
mind.
L437[08:43:22] <Skye> So uh yeah
L438[08:43:31] <Z0idburg>
where you goin?
<Z0idburg>
where you goin?L439[08:43:32] <Skye> £127 for York and
back
L440[08:43:34] <dequbed> stephan48: Good
on you for knowing how to apply cpp but no, putchar lies squarely
in POSIX stdio :p
L441[08:43:34] <Z0idburg>
china?
<Z0idburg>
china?L442[08:43:36] <Skye> York
L443[08:43:49] <AmandaC> Though mine are
made of plastic...
L444[08:43:52] <Z0idburg>
glad its not nrew york
<Z0idburg>
glad its not nrew yorkL445[08:43:55] <AmandaC> ( Insurance cards
)
L446[08:43:58] <Z0idburg>
new york is horrible
<Z0idburg>
new york is horribleL447[08:44:06] <AmandaC> There's a York in
PA
L448[08:44:17] <stephan48> dequbed: yea,
it was in the include chain of stdio.h - i ran it throu "gcc
-E" :D
L449[08:44:25] <Z0idburg> I
ws told PA is horrible
<Z0idburg> I
ws told PA is horribleL450[08:44:35] <Skye> Going to visit the
national railway museum
L451[08:44:39] <AmandaC> I remember we
took a day trip there, and my Kindergardener brain was like
"Man, New York is boring! It's just a small little
town!"
L452[08:44:52] <AmandaC> ( My family took
a day trip there, not the school )
L453[08:45:02] <Wattana
Gaming> "Programming is both art and science. However, when
thing goes wrong, we have to use the divine power in order to solve
our problem."
<Wattana
Gaming> "Programming is both art and science. However, when
thing goes wrong, we have to use the divine power in order to solve
our problem."L454[08:45:32] <Skye> Is there a potion
that turns you into an anime girl, asking for a friend.
L455[08:45:34] <dequbed> AmandaC: If your
a kid in a Kindergarden you'd be a Kindergardengnome, not a
Kindergardener. Those are the adults watching over you little shits
:p
L456[08:46:47] <Skye>
"gardengnome"
L457[08:47:14] *
Lizzy sighs, wonders if spammers are even trying anymore these
days
L458[08:47:17] <AmandaC> %8ball look for
yet another story to scarf down?
L459[08:47:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L460[08:48:11] <dequbed> Lizzy: I got a
spam mail from a "hacker" who "hacked" my mail
server, somehow got access to my passwords that way and was
tracking me reading their plain text mail using the /facebook/
pixel. Best laugh I had in a week.
L461[08:48:31] <stephan48> and wanted to
expose your p0rn habits?
L462[08:48:37] <dequbed> Yes also
that.
L463[08:48:44] <dequbed> But that's the
boring part.
L464[08:48:51] <stephan48> yea i get these
daily.
L465[08:49:00] <Skye> dequbed: I once got
a spam email pretending to be me and I needed to pay bitcoin or
else they'd message people my browsing history and webcam footage
if I didn't pay them.
L466[08:49:03] <ben_mkiv> Mimiru, was able
to reproduce your issue, last commit should fix that
L467[08:49:03] <Skye> Lol what
L468[08:49:06] <stephan48> after some
tweaking spamassasin was very happy to put them into spam
L469[08:49:21] <stephan48> Skye: yes thats
the same basic pattern
L470[08:49:39] <dequbed> stephan48: They
were marked as SPAM with a high score I just sometimes read through
my spam folder if I need some cheap entertainment.
L471[08:49:52] <stephan48> "we hacked
you, look at the from line showing your mail address! pay or your
friend will see your compromised footage!"
L472[08:49:54] <Skye> I don't watch stuff
like that though
L473[08:49:55] <dequbed> It's like reading
x86 documentation. It's so stupid it's funny again
L474[08:50:13] <Skye> And I don't have any
webcams
L475[08:50:25] <AmandaC> I mostly seem to
get lots of "Inheritence" s
L476[08:50:33] <stephan48> basic email 101
- almost anything your mail client shows you is easily manipulated
by an attacker
L477[08:50:37] <AmandaC> Lots of lawers
falling over themselves to get to me!
L478[08:50:44] <Lizzy> dequbed: this one
was actually a copy of the SMTP transaction that postfix sent me
but someone was trying to send an email to and from the same
account but use my server as a relay (which my server said no
to)
L479[08:51:37] <dequbed> Lizzy: You get
those? My server just laughts at their stupidity and then blocks
their IP for 48 hours. At best it's a blip in my statistics
graphs.
L480[08:52:13] <Skye> I need to become an
immortal cute anime girl and take over the world
L481[08:52:34] <dequbed> Its gotten to the
point where I make statistics on how many bots that try to attack
my server are nices ones and how many are bad ones.
L482[08:52:35] <Lizzy> i set up my postfix
to do it, i've had a few that have continiously tried and then
fail2ban has banned them for about a day (though, the next time
someone gets banned they'll be banned for 10 days if they hit
postfix)
L483[08:54:15] <stephan48> i pretty much
have setup fail2ban on all externally facing machines to block
after 3 tries and then if someone tries 3x3 times they will get
offed for a year
L484[08:54:38] <dequbed> Lizzy: If you
want pretty graphs as well you can throw your mail logs at my log
aggregator. Right now we're 27 to 484 nice to bad bots.
L485[08:54:43] <stephan48> (that last part
is what i want my main routing vm to do - so essentially blocking
all access to everyhing)
L486[08:54:57] <stephan48> what do you use
for log aggregation?
L487[08:55:01] <dequbed> Nice bots being
the ones that actually GTFO when told to use SASL GSSAPI or GTFO
while bad ones are those that still try SASL LOGIN.
L488[08:55:05] <stephan48> i am still
searching for something lightweight and nice
L489[08:55:39] <dequbed> stephan48:
Currently graylog because it seemed reasonable. I really, *really*
want to switch but that would make me have to re-do most of my
filters and I don't want to spend that time right now.
L490[08:55:57] <stephan48> ah ok. self
hosted?
L491[08:56:00] <dequbed> ...
L492[08:56:06] <dequbed> I don't
understand that question.
L493[08:57:11] <stephan48> :D sadly i am
very used to people who have no common sense(or my predisposion for
hosting everything myself) so i tend to ask :D
L494[08:57:18] <stephan48> what do you not
like about graylog?
L495[08:57:42] <Lizzy> dequbed: hmm, might
do that at some point. and annoyingly i keep getting people
attempting to AUTH LOGIN over plain text connections despite the
fact that "AUTH" is not even specified in the available
features over plaintext yet they try it anyway
L496[08:58:06] <Forecaster>
Skye: closest is the catgirl potion I guess
<Forecaster>
Skye: closest is the catgirl potion I guessL497[08:58:22] <dequbed> The fact that
they completely ignore the HTTP standard and thus make it
impossible to set up proper SSO. The issue on GH is marked #wontfix
so I can choose between no SSO or changing.
L498[08:58:33] <stephan48> :/
L499[08:59:54] <stephan48> yea thats
another part i am currently setting up. multi layered SSO(external
auth via oauth2 / kerberos, extended security via vpn for some
services)
L500[08:59:55] <dequbed> stephan48: I'm
probably going to roll my own to a certain degree. I have lax
security requirements (all transport is encrypted using IPsec
anyway) so I don't mind rsyslog but apart from that most of the
system's gonna go.
L501[09:00:11] <Skye> %potion
L502[09:00:11] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a
freezing salmon potion
L503[09:00:16] <Skye> %drink ^
L504[09:00:18] <MichiBot> Skye temporarily
gains the ability to summon safety pins.
L505[09:00:21] <Skye> Um
L506[09:00:22] <Lizzy> Skye: can you make
me a catgirl at the same time?
L507[09:00:37] <ben_mkiv> %potion
L508[09:00:37] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You
get a freezing rock potion
L509[09:00:39] <stephan48> basically what
i want is a central place where i can look over all logs and have
certain filtering done - email reports would be best.
L510[09:00:40] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L511[09:00:42] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv's skin
turns to the color of purple.
L512[09:00:58] *
Lizzy drop kicks ben_mkiv
L513[09:00:58] <stephan48> and yea
essentially i also ended up looking into implementing my own.
L514[09:01:03] <Lizzy> Be gone
Thanos!
L515[09:01:44] <stephan48> rsyslog with
possible tls encryption towards a onsite(VM) log node and a
offsite(home) one. and then parsing and aggregation
L516[09:02:53] <stephan48> (all intervm
traffic on this host is a private network; i am planing on
restricting the communication even further/encrypting the
links)
L517[09:06:20] <dequbed> stephan48:
rsyslog into hindsight into solr. Additionally icinga for
monitoring, collectd for stats. Output via graphite, grafana and
some haskell scripts that mail me the right stuff at the right
time.
L518[09:07:03] <Lizzy> I tried looking
into Icinga, i remember not being able to get my head around
it
L519[09:07:53] <dequbed> Lizzy: Icinga
only becomes worth the efford when you have several servers or
disjunct groups of servers.
L520[09:08:08] <dequbed>
s/efford/effort/
L521[09:08:08] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
Lizzy: Icinga only becomes worth the effort when you have several
servers or disjunct groups of servers.
L522[09:10:09] <dequbed> stephan48: Most
important reason for hindsight over basically all other programs:
"Hindsight (kill -9) Caused some corruption in the stream but
no messages were lost and 3 were duplicated." I don't like
losing log lines.
L523[09:15:05] <Skye> I just got a phone
call...
L524[09:15:35] <Skye> "this is BT
technical support, your IP address has been compromised from a
foreign country..."
L525[09:16:40] <Mimiru> Oh no! Not your IP
Address!!!oneone
L526[09:18:06] <Skye> I need to report
them to the ICO
L527[09:18:15] <Skye> Spam phone calls are
illegal
L528[09:18:25] <Skye> Aka against the data
protection act
L529[09:18:46] <t20kdc> I wish I got those
kinds of calls, mostly because I'd like to have a 'word' with the
people who make them
L530[09:19:35] <Skye> It was
automated
L531[09:19:39] <stephan48> dequbed: did
you describe your new setup or a recommended one?
L532[09:19:43] <Skye> Good thing because I
laughed hard.
L533[09:20:25] <stephan48> i use
check_mk+nagios for monitoring
L534[09:20:43] <stephan48> packaged via
omdistro
L535[09:21:18] <dequbed> stephan48: My new
setup that I am testing at the moment. As soon as I have the time
and energy graylog will be replaced with that and not be
missed.
L536[09:21:35] <stephan48> reporting
currently works via mail and jabber(bitlbee/xabber)
L537[09:21:51] <stephan48> how heavy is
solr?
L538[09:22:02] <dequbed> Well. graylog
will be replaced by hindsight and the current elasticsearch by
solr. Not sure about data migration yet.
L539[09:22:21] <dequbed> stephan48: Uh. I
think "No" is the best answer.
L540[09:22:36] <stephan48> no? :D
L541[09:23:37] <dequbed> stephan48:
Software weight is very relative, isn't it?
L542[09:24:04] <stephan48> yea
L543[09:25:02] <dequbed> Both Solr and
Elasticsearch use Lucene as index library which is the heavy part
of either really..
L544[09:25:57] <dequbed> So, if no isn't a
good enough answer I would say three quarters to a tree and maybe a
pint for Solr.
L545[09:27:36] <Skye> Reported to the
ICO
L546[09:27:57] <stephan48> you are right -
i need to test it with my local dataset
L547[09:28:28] <dequbed> stephan48:
Exactly. I've seen Solr run a potato and I've seen Solr eating 60GB
of ram.
L548[09:29:59] <stephan48> i got some 3
months worth of logs from several different machines as test
data(rsyslog->json format->daily gzip)
L549[09:30:06] <stephan48> so i have some
test data
L550[09:30:17] <dequbed> What order of
magnitude?
L551[09:31:27] <stephan48> compressed
about 700 MB but there is one machine with some ipsec bug :D which
basically causes a new SA being created each minute. that blows up
the log heavily(250 MB; 6.9 MB compressed)
L552[09:31:46] <Z0idburg>
that wont fit on a floppy disk
<Z0idburg>
that wont fit on a floppy diskL553[09:32:19] <stephan48> daily incoding
is around 150MB i guess.
L554[09:32:29] <stephan48> thats raw logs
without processing
L555[09:32:38] <Skye> It might fit on a
CD
L556[09:32:43] <stephan48> :D
L557[09:32:59] <stephan48> i once wrote
software to control automated CD writers
L558[09:33:02] <Z0idburg>
record it to tape
<Z0idburg>
record it to tapeL559[09:33:20] <stephan48> they could burn
and print(inkjet) DVDs
L560[09:33:48] <dequbed> Oh okay. In that
case potato. If you don't feed in hundreds (of thousands) lines per
minute Solr really isn't impressed. If you do your fields well
enough that'd be less than a gig ram and very little CPU time
depending on how much you query.
L561[09:33:59] <Forecaster>
BitTorrent has technical support? :P
<Forecaster>
BitTorrent has technical support? :PL562[09:34:26] <stephan48> god no :D
L563[09:34:54] <stephan48> i would say max
a thousand lines a minute if at all.
L564[09:35:00] <stephan48> and thats with
some heavy tollerance
L565[09:35:55] <dequbed> stephan48: Do as
much pre-processing as you can and feed in as much extracted data
in as precise field types as possible and Solr is plenty fast and
plenty light enough even if your log server is a Raspberry
Pi.
L566[09:36:28] <dequbed> If you're
interested I'm going to write down the setup in a blog post when I
roll it out, I can ping you then.
L567[09:36:39] <stephan48> sure
L568[09:36:40] *
Skye eats a Pi
L569[09:37:09] *
stephan48 hands Skye a raspberry pi. please don't break out
teeth
L570[09:37:17] *
Skye eats it
L571[09:37:20] <stephan48> i would
appreciate it :D
L572[09:37:43] <stephan48> s/out
teeth/your teeth/
L573[09:37:45] <MichiBot> * stephan48
hands Skye a raspberry pi. please don't break your teeth
L574[09:37:48] <Z0idburg>
Raspberry pis are evil
<Z0idburg>
Raspberry pis are evilL575[09:37:55] <Skye> I need to eat
more
L576[09:37:58] <Skye> Hungry
L577[09:38:06] <dequbed> /me hands Skye a
Banana Pi(e)
L578[09:38:09] <stephan48> yea the current
json format is just to preserve all sensible syslog
attributes
L579[09:38:14] *
Skye eats it too
L580[09:38:16] <Skye> Nom
L581[09:38:32] <stephan48> like f.e.
priority
L582[09:39:10] *
Lizzy feeds Skye the hadron packet collider
L583[09:39:29] <Z0idburg>
going to hook her up to the Internet
<Z0idburg>
going to hook her up to the InternetL584[09:39:30] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L585[09:39:32] *
Skye eats the packs, then the hadrons, then the
collider
L586[09:39:40] <Skye> *packets
L587[09:40:26] *
AmandaC beams a never-ending pasta bowl in front of
Skye
L588[09:40:40] <Skye> _eats the
pasta_
L589[09:40:42] <Skye> Hm
L590[09:40:49] *
Skye just eats the entire bowl
L591[09:41:15] *
AmandaC stares blankly
L592[09:41:25] <dequbed> stephan48: I've
considered rsyslog's filters but they really aren't nice enough to
use for that. Have a look at Logstash, Hindsight (>Heka), Apache
Flume, Apache Spark, or even Kafka if you want.
L593[09:41:28] *
AmandaC slowly runs out of the room, before Skye collapses into a
black hole
L594[09:41:48] *
Skye is fine
L595[09:41:48] <Lizzy> i mean, you'll
still have never-ending pasta until the bowl gets broken down in
the acid
L596[09:41:53] *
Skye burps
L597[09:42:00] <Skye> Hm
L598[09:42:04] <Skye> Can I eat the
Internet
L599[09:42:25] <Z0idburg>
transactional memory is nice
<Z0idburg>
transactional memory is niceL600[09:42:25] <stephan48> yes the json
thingy was just for intermediate storage so i can collect
propperly. a better solution without intermediate storage to disk
would be perfect
L601[09:42:34] <Z0idburg>
way smarter than locking
<Z0idburg>
way smarter than lockingL602[09:42:40] <dequbed> stephan48: Or if
you *really* want to take a sledgehammer to crack that nut, Hadoop
+ OOzie + Impala :D
L603[09:42:42] <Skye> Hey uh
L604[09:42:59] <Skye> Lizzy: can I have an
ehternet cable connected to the Internets?
L605[09:43:05] <Lizzy> hmm
L606[09:43:38] <stephan48> i kind of don't
wanna waste resources without needing them :D
L607[09:43:42] *
AmandaC checks Skye.vbs
L608[09:43:43] <dequbed> stephan48: In
other words: Build a system designed to aggregate petabytes of data
and use it to analyse a few kilobytes of such ;)
L609[09:43:48] *
Lizzy wires up a helmet hastely ducttapped to some ethernet cables
and gives it to Skye
L610[09:43:49] <stephan48> hahaha
L611[09:44:16] *
Skye noms on the helmet and eats the ehternet cables like
spaghetti
L612[09:44:35] <Lizzy> that wasn't how i
was expecting that to go but oh well
L613[09:44:45] <dequbed> stephan48: I do
miss my Hadoop cluster though .-.
L614[09:44:49] *
AmandaC removes the Gluttony import from Skye, reloads the
universe
L615[09:45:31] *
Skye continues to eat the ehternet cables, until she reaches the
router
L616[09:45:33] <Skye> Hm
L617[09:45:37] *
Skye noms on the router
L618[09:45:43] <stephan48> dequbed:
:(
L619[09:45:48] <stephan48> Lizzy:
"oops" what have you done?!
L620[09:45:49] <Skye> At this point, it's
not gluttony, it's science.
L621[09:46:15] *
Skye eats the cables connected to the router, then modem, then
router...
L622[09:46:34] *
Lizzy baps Skye with a 1U network switch
L623[09:47:29] *
Skye has eaten all of the internet in London
L624[09:47:41] <Corded> * <Z0idburg>
baps the Internet with a 42U network switch
L625[09:47:42] <stephan48> thats no
miss.
L626[09:48:02] *
Skye continues and eats the Internet in the UK, then Europe, then
the US, then Russia etc
L627[09:48:12] *
Skye finishes eating the Internet
L628[09:48:14] <Skye> Ah
L629[09:48:16] <Skye> Hm
L630[09:48:17] <Z0idburg>
is Skye a slime?
<Z0idburg>
is Skye a slime?L631[09:48:21] <Skye> Can I eat the
wireless devices
L632[09:48:25] <Skye> Nope
L633[09:48:30] <stephan48> sure you
can
L634[09:48:32] <Z0idburg>
That time Skye was reincarnated as a slime
<Z0idburg>
That time Skye was reincarnated as a slimeL635[09:48:34] <Skye> I am just bending
time and space
L636[09:48:37] <stephan48> after the
humans they are attached to
L637[09:48:57] <dequbed> stephan48:
Nothing like downloading Gigabytes of LHC data and crunching it on
all workstations of all Labs over the weekend and never seeing the
power bill x)
L638[09:49:06] <stephan48> haha
L639[09:49:29] <Skye> Zoidburg but I want
to be a cute anime girl
L640[09:51:50] *
Skye flops
L641[09:51:53] <Skye> I am full
L642[09:52:15] *
Lizzy sits on Skye
L643[09:52:16] <dequbed> Skye: do FLOPS
instead, we need more of those
L644[09:52:35] *
Skye is flattened
L645[09:52:47] <Lizzy> i'm not that
big....
L646[09:52:53] <Skye> (I'm really weak,
even a sneeze can flatten me)
L647[09:53:15] <Lizzy> i mean, you just
ate a load of network infrastructure
L648[09:53:21] <dequbed> stephan48: I
found a nice graphic of that sledgehammer setup: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RepakaRamateja/Log-File-Processing-Data-Pipeline/master/images/batch.png
:p
L649[09:53:25] <Lizzy> so that should
re-inforce you
L650[09:53:38] <Skye> Fair
L651[09:53:55] <Skye> Maybe you're a giant
because you're a goddess
L652[09:54:00] <stephan48> i mean i am all
for sledgehammer solutions
L653[09:54:09] <stephan48> but you need
the resources for that :D
L654[09:54:24] <stephan48> and currently i
am trying to simplify and secure everything
L655[09:54:31] <stephan48> so its all over
all less work
L656[09:55:10] <Lizzy> Skye: and being a
goddess I can alter my material-plane size and weight
L657[09:55:34] <Skye> You miscalculated
maybe
L658[09:55:42] <Lizzy> hmm
L659[09:55:46] *
Lizzy re-inflates skye
L660[09:55:55] *
Skye bounces
L661[09:56:10] <dequbed> Hadoop is not
*that* heavy. I think overall you'd need a 32GB log storage server
and a few megabytes on each client wanting to send logs. Less if
you don't use flume directly on each client.
L662[09:56:25] <stephan48> 32GB RAM?
L663[09:56:47] <dequbed> That'd be good
for 100k logs per second I'd wager.
L664[09:56:48] <dequbed> Yeah
L665[09:56:56] <stephan48> ENOPE_THANKS
:D
L666[09:57:29] <stephan48> can probably be
scaled down but for the log analysis and monitoring i would rather
not invest more then 4GB in total :D
L667[09:58:09] <dequbed> Storage is more.
Depend on how long you need to keep those logs I'd say throw a 4TB
RAID1 HDD at it, maybe a 256GB SSD for caches and a tiny drive for
the system.
L668[09:58:25] <dequbed> But really,
storage scales very easily.
L669[09:58:36] <Skye> Goddesses of OC...
We have Lizzy and Michi... And AmandaC wrote the perl that keeps it
all together
L670[09:58:36] <stephan48> 1-2 years at
above rates? :D
L671[09:59:01] <dequbed> stephan48: I
think we've established that you don't need a sledgehammer ;)
L672[09:59:16] <stephan48> yup :D
L673[09:59:23] <stephan48> i mean would be
fun to setup probably
L674[09:59:28] <dequbed> It is.
L675[09:59:53] <stephan48> basically all
this root server/vm/stuff setup is for fun and learning
L676[10:00:11] <stephan48> but sadly i
can't muster the dedication atm to do much new stuff on it
L677[10:00:15] <Skye> Lizzy: can I be the
unofficial angel of this crazy universe :p
L678[10:00:38] <dequbed> It is *really*
fun to realize your laptop can't actually push enough data out fast
enough and is currently boring the test setup out.
L679[10:01:01] <stephan48> haha
L680[10:01:38] <dequbed> And then
switching to the 40GBASE SFP+ sledgehammer for stress testing
:3
L682[10:01:47] <Saphire>
...I got bored
<Saphire>
...I got boredL683[10:02:37] <Skye> Old computers are
fun
L684[10:03:02] <Lizzy> Skye: sure
L685[10:03:27] *
Skye sits on the ceiling
L687[10:06:21] <Skye> Need
to update my profile picture to use it.
<Skye> Need
to update my profile picture to use it.L688[10:06:48] *
Lizzy needs to draw her own art or get something
comissioned
L689[10:07:31] <Skye> Lizzy: commission
Vic. :p
L690[10:07:43] <Z0idburg> I
never did find a way to reload required modules in openos
<Z0idburg> I
never did find a way to reload required modules in openosL691[10:08:01] <Z0idburg>
without manually doing it
<Z0idburg>
without manually doing itL692[10:08:46] <Lizzy> Skye: that's what
i'm planning but i still need to think of how i want it to look
cause i doubt that i could tell Vic to "draw me a
picture" and them knowing exactly what i wanted
L693[10:09:36] <Skye> They like having
references for poses and clothes etc
L694[10:09:38] <stephan48> daily record of
firefox memory usage: 14 GB across 5 processes(top process
9GB)
L695[10:10:19] <Lizzy> Skye: i guessed so,
hence me wanting to plan first before requesting it
L696[10:10:57] <Skye> Lizzy: need help?
^^;
L697[10:12:33] <Lizzy> might do, i'll
think more about it when i'm home in about half an hour
L698[10:26:57] <stephan48> nftables look
nice. especially with regards to ipset functionality
L699[10:27:03] <stephan48> really need to
look into that
L700[10:29:35] <Lizzy> woo home time
L701[10:29:48] <stephan48> woo 2h train
time :D
L702[10:32:27] <Z0idburg>
need your own car that has really big tires
<Z0idburg>
need your own car that has really big tiresL703[10:32:31] <Z0idburg>
like mine
<Z0idburg>
like mineL704[10:32:37] <Z0idburg>
so you can just drive over the other cars
<Z0idburg>
so you can just drive over the other carsL705[10:32:45] <Z0idburg>
cept I cant do that
<Z0idburg>
cept I cant do thatL706[10:33:28] ⇦
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L707[10:39:40] *
Skye nya at Lizzy
L708[10:40:50] *
Lizzy nyahs at Skye
L709[10:46:18] <Lizzy> woo, home
L710[10:49:34] *
Skye hugs Lizzy
L711[10:49:44] *
Lizzy hugs Skye
L712[10:55:40] <Inari> %potion
L713[10:55:40] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
shimmering strawberry potion
L714[10:55:42] <Inari> %drink ^
L715[10:55:42] <MichiBot> Inari is
suddenly more aware of cute things nearby.
L716[10:55:46] <Inari> :3
L717[10:55:53] *
Inari is suddenly more aware of herself
L718[10:57:58] <Z0idburg>
Inari has become self aware
<Z0idburg>
Inari has become self awareL719[10:58:04] <Inari> :p
L720[10:58:51] <Skye> The world is
doomed.
L721[10:59:49] <Bob> is
there a way to close all the opened files in lua or close files
without knowing the file name
<Bob> is
there a way to close all the opened files in lua or close files
without knowing the file nameL722[10:59:52] <Bob> will
io.flush work ?
<Bob> will
io.flush work ?L723[11:00:03] <Bob> or
does flush just finishes write
<Bob> or
does flush just finishes writeL724[11:05:26] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nftables
L725[11:08:38] <Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming Hopefully this works. I have a fever today so
there's definitely bugs
<Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming Hopefully this works. I have a fever today so
there's definitely bugsL728[11:09:36] <Z0idburg>
it seems to work
<Z0idburg>
it seems to workL729[11:09:44] <Z0idburg>
Oh crap I left debug in it
<Z0idburg>
Oh crap I left debug in itL731[11:11:00] <Z0idburg>
The idea is still the same; print will only print on the same line
of the GPU
<Z0idburg>
The idea is still the same; print will only print on the same line
of the GPUL732[11:11:14] <Z0idburg>
if it needs to print on the next line it will recurse and call
itself
<Z0idburg>
if it needs to print on the next line it will recurse and call
itselfL733[11:11:27] <Z0idburg>
forcing print to readjust its viewport before printing
<Z0idburg>
forcing print to readjust its viewport before printingL734[11:11:36] <Z0idburg>
This function is actually really really fast
<Z0idburg>
This function is actually really really fastL735[11:11:46] <Z0idburg>
At least it seems to be
<Z0idburg>
At least it seems to beL736[11:12:17] <Z0idburg>
It could be faster but given what it is doing it runs quite
quickly
<Z0idburg>
It could be faster but given what it is doing it runs quite
quicklyL737[11:13:35] <Z0idburg>
This gtty library seems to fit in 1.235 bytes when minified
<Z0idburg>
This gtty library seems to fit in 1.235 bytes when minifiedL738[11:13:47] <Z0idburg>
1,235*
<Z0idburg>
1,235*L739[11:14:39] <Z0idburg> I
just need to finish scroll() and it will be complete except for
control character functionality, which is dispatched but I havent
implemented them individually yet
<Z0idburg> I
just need to finish scroll() and it will be complete except for
control character functionality, which is dispatched but I havent
implemented them individually yetL740[11:21:12] <payonel>
@"Z0idburg" re: reloading required modules in openos.
there is not a way that is supported. what is your use case?
L741[11:21:50] <payonel> @Bob io flush
flushes the buffer to its output. why/when do you need to know open
file handles? we dont have an lsof in openos, but it could be
done
L742[11:21:58] <payonel> there is not a
public api for open handles, but the data is there
L743[11:22:47] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
add "Lizz+(a|y)+" to hilight list
L744[11:24:19] <Z0idburg>
payonel: testing in the repl ?
<Z0idburg>
payonel: testing in the repl ?L745[11:24:43] <payonel> first of all,
core required modules that the kernel loads are not safe to
unload+reload
L746[11:24:49] <payonel> you could
definitely break things
L747[11:24:55] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
"Lizzaly" too
L748[11:25:00] <Z0idburg>
no these are just required lua files
<Z0idburg>
no these are just required lua filesL749[11:25:01] <payonel> if you want to
unload your own modules, package.loaded[libname] = nil
L750[11:25:12] <Z0idburg> I
write functionally so reloading libraries I write is always
safe
<Z0idburg> I
write functionally so reloading libraries I write is always
safeL751[11:25:14] <payonel> "required
lua files" is the same thing i'm talking about
L752[11:25:18] <payonel> that's how the
kernel loads stuff
L753[11:28:18] <Z0idburg>
yeah. I just wish there was an argument to require() that told it
to reload a new lua chunk
<Z0idburg>
yeah. I just wish there was an argument to require() that told it
to reload a new lua chunkL754[11:28:40] <payonel> if you want to
NOT cache libs, don't use require
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L756[11:30:07] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
L*i*z*a?*l?*y* possibly?
L757[11:30:46] <Zef> What
the hell lol
<Zef> What
the hell lolL758[11:31:43] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL759[11:31:43] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 4 hours, 36
minutes and 46 seconds this time.
L760[11:31:44] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 2
minutes and 45 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour and 34
minutes!
L761[11:31:50] <Zef>
Ha!
<Zef>
Ha!L762[11:31:51] <Forecaster>
Aww
<Forecaster>
AwwL763[11:32:01] <Forecaster>
It was a shot in the dark
<Forecaster>
It was a shot in the darkL764[11:32:13] <Zef> My
godly presence makes you eager to tonk too quickly
<Zef> My
godly presence makes you eager to tonk too quicklyL765[11:32:24] <Zef>
However
<Zef>
HoweverL766[11:32:27] <Zef>
%tonkout
<Zef>
%tonkoutL767[11:32:28] <MichiBot> Zef has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! Current
score: 0.012
L768[11:49:01] <Lizzy> %tonk
L769[11:49:01] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Lizzy! You beat Zef's previous record of <0! I hope you're
happy!
L770[11:49:02] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 16 minutes and 33 seconds! 16 minutes and 33 seconds
gained!
L771[11:50:57] <Kodos> I
still want my tonk points back ❤
<Kodos> I
still want my tonk points back ❤L772[11:51:02] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL773[11:51:07] <Z0idburg>
whyd you lose em
<Z0idburg>
whyd you lose emL774[11:52:54] <Forecaster>
MichiBot's fickleness
<Forecaster>
MichiBot's ficklenessL775[11:53:29] <Forecaster>
or maybe he's talking about the fact that a bug caused him to get
like 40 years which he cashed out :P
<Forecaster>
or maybe he's talking about the fact that a bug caused him to get
like 40 years which he cashed out :PL776[12:16:46] <Z0idburg>
hmm.
<Z0idburg>
hmm.L777[12:17:17] <Z0idburg> I
am experiencing a freeze when printing to gpu memory outside of the
screen boundry
<Z0idburg> I
am experiencing a freeze when printing to gpu memory outside of the
screen boundryL778[12:17:24] <Z0idburg>
in ocvm
<Z0idburg>
in ocvmL779[12:17:35] <Z0idburg> I
am hoping it's just my code ?
<Z0idburg> I
am hoping it's just my code ?L780[12:34:30] <Lizzy> ok, can someone try
saying various forms of my name like earlier? wanna test if hexchat
will properly ping me for them
L781[12:38:14] <Forecaster>
Lizzzzzy
<Forecaster>
LizzzzzyL782[12:39:37] <Lizzy> hmm, okay that
didn't work
L783[12:40:01] <Lizzy> try again?
L784[12:40:10] <Forecaster>
Lizzzzzzzy
<Forecaster>
LizzzzzzzyL785[12:40:27] <Lizzy> nope... hmmm
L786[12:40:42] <Lizzy> k, i guess
hexchat's highlight stuff doesn't do regexc
L787[12:40:47] <Lizzy> *regex
L788[12:49:36] <Z0idburg>
lizzay
<Z0idburg>
lizzayL789[12:50:02] <Kleadron>
lliizzzzyy
<Kleadron>
lliizzzzyyL790[12:50:53] <Lizzy> nope, none of those
are pinging me, oh well
L791[12:53:02] <dequbed> Lizzaly
L792[12:53:12] <Lizzy> that one worked...
wait
L793[12:53:27] <Lizzy> oh
L794[12:53:57] <Lizzy> it worked because
the * are wildcards in hexchat, not the regex ones
L795[13:24:05] <Zef> Me and
kodos had our godliness revoked!
<Zef> Me and
kodos had our godliness revoked!L796[13:29:53] <Forecaster>
it was false to begin with
<Forecaster>
it was false to begin withL797[13:29:54] <Skye> lizzzzaaaayyyy
L798[13:30:02] <Forecaster>
also nobody cares
<Forecaster>
also nobody caresL799[13:30:04] <Skye> the gods are the
ops
L800[13:30:04] <Lizzy> that pinged
me
L801[13:30:14] <Skye> lizaily
L802[13:30:15] <Lizzy> hmm
L803[13:30:20] <Lizzy> so did
that...
L804[13:30:38] <Skye> lizzzzy
L805[13:30:39] *
Lizzy doesn't know anymore
L806[13:30:42] <Lizzy> that didn't
L807[13:30:44] <Lizzy> hmm
L808[13:30:45] <Skye> hm
L809[13:30:47] <Skye> just do
L810[13:30:52] <Skye> liz*y
L811[13:31:07] <Lizzy> try that last one
again
L812[13:31:16] <Skye> lizzzzzy
L813[13:31:23] <Lizzy> yep, that pings
now, cool
L814[13:31:45] <Skye> liiiiiiiiizy
L815[13:31:54] <Lizzy> /me was
pinged
L816[13:32:09] <simon816> PR to add regex?
:P https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/blob/master/src/common/inbound.c#L224
L817[13:40:06] <Inari> https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/02/opportunity-did-not-answer-nasas-final-call-and-its-now-gone-to-us/
L818[14:15:13] <Mimiru> %tonk
L819[14:15:14] <MichiBot> Zounderkite!
Mimiru! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 16 minutes and 33
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L820[14:15:15] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new
record is 2 hours, 26 minutes and 12 seconds! 2 hours, 9 minutes
and 38 seconds gained!
L821[14:15:21] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L822[14:15:21] <MichiBot> Mimiru has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
Current score: 0.012
L823[14:29:57] <Z0idburg>
You should have 1 tonk point by now
<Z0idburg>
You should have 1 tonk point by nowL824[14:30:24] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL825[14:30:25] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Forecaster! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope
you're happy!
L826[14:30:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 15 minutes and 4 seconds! 15 minutes and 4 seconds
gained!
L827[14:30:35] <Forecaster>
dang, 4 seconds late
<Forecaster>
dang, 4 seconds lateL829[14:35:25] <deceased>
dis look good?
<deceased>
dis look good?L830[14:35:41] <deceased>
Going to add authentication, mainly just a nickname, idk about a
whole auth system
<deceased>
Going to add authentication, mainly just a nickname, idk about a
whole auth systemL831[14:41:16] <Mimiru> %restart
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L835[14:41:52] <Mimiru> damn
L836[14:41:53] <Mimiru> didn't work
L837[14:42:09] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
Skye: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/13/uk_counter_terror_act_royal_assent/
L838[14:42:20] <Forecaster>
what are you talking about, it worked perf *combusts*
<Forecaster>
what are you talking about, it worked perf *combusts*L839[14:43:03] <Z0idburg>
cooking breakfast
<Z0idburg>
cooking breakfastL840[14:43:08] <Z0idburg>
at 4pm
<Z0idburg>
at 4pmL841[14:43:45] <Z0idburg>
That can't be real
<Z0idburg>
That can't be realL842[14:43:53] <Z0idburg>
that link Forecaster that has to be fake
<Z0idburg>
that link Forecaster that has to be fakeL843[14:44:15] <Forecaster>
? I've spoken of no link
<Forecaster>
? I've spoken of no linkL844[14:44:27] <Z0idburg>
not you wrong person loil
<Z0idburg>
not you wrong person loilL845[14:44:34] <Z0idburg>
Izaya*
<Z0idburg>
Izaya*L846[14:44:59] <Forecaster>
I'm not sure how you made that mistake :P
<Forecaster>
I'm not sure how you made that mistake :PL847[14:45:19] <Z0idburg>
no idea
<Z0idburg>
no ideaL848[14:48:32] <Z0idburg>
Izaya those guys over in the UK are insane
<Z0idburg>
Izaya those guys over in the UK are insaneL849[14:50:26] <CompanionCube> yes
L850[14:50:28] <CompanionCube> yes they
are
L851[14:50:34] <Z0idburg> I
can see it now
<Z0idburg> I
can see it nowL852[14:50:51] <Z0idburg>
anonymous is probably already grabbing popcorn waiting to tell the
UK how they feel about their stupid ideas
<Z0idburg>
anonymous is probably already grabbing popcorn waiting to tell the
UK how they feel about their stupid ideasL853[14:50:59] <CompanionCube> nah
L854[14:51:10] <CompanionCube> just email
questionable content to the PM
L855[14:51:13] <CompanionCube> wait for
them to open it
L856[14:51:14] <CompanionCube>
profit.
L857[14:51:48] <Z0idburg>
next thing you know the ONLY thing the UK can access is their so
called ilegal content ""
<Z0idburg>
next thing you know the ONLY thing the UK can access is their so
called ilegal content ""L858[14:53:03] <CompanionCube> lol,
wouldn't that be a great excuse for theresa and her cronies to
build a Great Firewall
L859[14:54:06] <Z0idburg>
sisnt they already talk about that and got some threat or
something
<Z0idburg>
sisnt they already talk about that and got some threat or
somethingL860[15:06:22]
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L861[15:06:59] <OskarSniper> Hello ?
<OskarSniper> Hello ?L862[15:07:14] <Forecaster>
hi
<Forecaster>
hiL863[15:07:36] <Z0idburg>
Hey
<Z0idburg>
HeyL864[15:09:50] <OskarSniper> I am currently playing
Project Ozone 3 A New Way Forward. Now I am trying to use Open
Computers especially servers but they wont boot. Error message
*computer halted*.
<OskarSniper> I am currently playing
Project Ozone 3 A New Way Forward. Now I am trying to use Open
Computers especially servers but they wont boot. Error message
*computer halted*.L865[15:09:51] <OskarSniper> Rack is directly connected to
a Power Converter.
<OskarSniper> Rack is directly connected to
a Power Converter.L866[15:09:51] <OskarSniper> Server is a Tier 3 server
with EEPROM (Lua Bios), Tier3 CPU, 4x Tier 3.5 Memory and Tier3 HDD
with OpenOS installed.
<OskarSniper> Server is a Tier 3 server
with EEPROM (Lua Bios), Tier3 CPU, 4x Tier 3.5 Memory and Tier3 HDD
with OpenOS installed.L867[15:12:14] <Zef> Did
you try using an analyzer or whatever on it?
<Zef> Did
you try using an analyzer or whatever on it?L868[15:12:19] <OskarSniper> Yeah
<OskarSniper> YeahL869[15:12:24] <OskarSniper> Telling me "computer
halted"
<OskarSniper> Telling me "computer
halted"L870[15:12:31] <OskarSniper> I tried booting the HDD on a
normal PC
<OskarSniper> I tried booting the HDD on a
normal PCL871[15:12:38] <Zef> Try
reinstalling openos?
<Zef> Try
reinstalling openos?L872[15:12:39] <OskarSniper> Now it shows me unrecoverable
Error - computer halted
<OskarSniper> Now it shows me unrecoverable
Error - computer haltedL873[15:13:03] <Zef> Sounds
like something happened to it
<Zef> Sounds
like something happened to itL874[15:13:14] <OskarSniper> reinstall now
<OskarSniper> reinstall nowL875[15:13:52] <OskarSniper> Same
<OskarSniper> SameL876[15:15:45] <Mimiru> are there any
errors in the game console?
L877[15:16:03] <Mimiru> %restart
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L882[15:17:23] <Inari> D:
L883[15:17:25] <Inari> Rude
L884[15:17:38] <OskarSniper> We're playing on a
server
<OskarSniper> We're playing on a
serverL885[15:18:48] <Mimiru> try it in single
player then. if it works there you'll need to ask the owner to
check the console.
L886[15:19:06] <OskarSniper> Already checked console - no
errors
<OskarSniper> Already checked console - no
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L889[15:30:53] <OskarSniper> Works in Singleplayer
:/
<OskarSniper> Works in Singleplayer
:/L890[15:32:19] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L891[15:32:19] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 15 minutes
and 4 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L892[15:32:20] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 1 hour, 1 minute and 54 seconds! 46 minutes and 50
seconds gained!
L893[15:33:25] <Z0idburg>
fingers burn
<Z0idburg>
fingers burnL894[15:34:00] <Z0idburg> I
couldn't find my gloves and had to get the snow off the car
<Z0idburg> I
couldn't find my gloves and had to get the snow off the carL895[15:34:39] <Z0idburg>
which included digging the car out so I can get it out of my
driveway to begin with
<Z0idburg>
which included digging the car out so I can get it out of my
driveway to begin withL896[15:34:53] <Z0idburg>
I'm so surpised I didn't have to get strapped and pulled out of my
driveway again
<Z0idburg>
I'm so surpised I didn't have to get strapped and pulled out of my
driveway againL897[15:35:40] <Z0idburg>
there's this guy who usually comes with his much, much bigger jeep
with gigantic tires and chains and he's pulled me out of my
driveway before XD
<Z0idburg>
there's this guy who usually comes with his much, much bigger jeep
with gigantic tires and chains and he's pulled me out of my
driveway before XDL899[15:43:44] <Zef> The
geothermal generators flicker on randomly to power it
<Zef> The
geothermal generators flicker on randomly to power itL900[15:49:25] <Inari> Yay
L901[15:49:29] <Inari> My pull request was
accepted
L902[15:50:04] <Forecaster>
what is it for?
<Forecaster>
what is it for?L903[15:50:36] <Inari> turn "you have
4 tell(s)" into "you have 1 tell" and "you have
4 tells"
L904[15:50:47] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL905[16:12:07] <ben_mkiv> that bot is
getting smarter than half of its userbase
L906[16:12:13] <ben_mkiv> %potion
L907[16:12:13] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You
get a gloomy tuna potion
L908[16:12:41] <ben_mkiv> as i turned into
a catgirl because of potions... guess i can drink that now
L909[16:12:44] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L910[16:12:44] <MichiBot> This doesn't
seem to be a potion I recognize...
L911[16:13:55] <Forecaster>
That is odd
<Forecaster>
That is oddL912[16:14:07] <ben_mkiv> i will drink it
anyways because im a cat
L913[16:14:30] <Inari> %drink gloomy tuna
potion
L914[16:14:31] <MichiBot> Inari remembers
an important appointment.
L915[16:14:46] <Forecaster>
I imagine the effects are not permanent :P
<Forecaster>
I imagine the effects are not permanent :PL916[16:15:04] <ben_mkiv> wait, thought
the potion would give the same effect for next 24h?!
L917[16:15:06] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L918[16:15:07] <MichiBot> This doesn't
seem to be a potion I recognize...
L919[16:15:13] <ben_mkiv> nvm
L920[16:15:22] <ben_mkiv> %drink gloomy
tuna potion
L921[16:15:23] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv
remembers an important appointment.
L922[16:15:41] <Inari> Probably because
your sentence contianed "potion"
L923[16:15:43] <Forecaster>
They do, roughly
<Forecaster>
They do, roughlyL924[16:15:54] <Skye> https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/
L925[16:15:56] <ben_mkiv> so i confused
the bot? eh
L926[16:16:28] <Skye> %potion
L927[16:16:28] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a
warpy tan potion
L928[16:16:33] <Skye> %drink ^
L929[16:16:34] <MichiBot> Skye knows the
exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen for a
second.
L930[16:16:38] <Forecaster>
And yeah, it finds the last message that says "potion"
and tries to parse the modifiers from it
<Forecaster>
And yeah, it finds the last message that says "potion"
and tries to parse the modifiers from itL931[16:16:41] <Skye> Aaaaaaaaaaaa
L932[16:16:42] <Skye> ...
L933[16:16:44] <Skye> Ah
L934[16:16:59] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L935[16:16:59] <MichiBot> This doesn't
seem to be a potion I recognize...
L936[16:17:05] <ben_mkiv> yea looks like
it does
L937[16:17:19] <ben_mkiv> now if i tell
something about a warpy tan potion it might recognize
L938[16:17:22] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L939[16:17:22] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv knows
the exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen for a
second.
L940[16:17:30] <Forecaster>
Yep
<Forecaster>
YepL941[16:18:44] <Forecaster>
I guess I should've had it keep going if it was not a valid
potion
<Forecaster>
I guess I should've had it keep going if it was not a valid
potionL942[16:19:42] <Forecaster>
Instead of stopping at the first occurrence of "potion"
even if it's invalid
<Forecaster>
Instead of stopping at the first occurrence of "potion"
even if it's invalidL943[16:22:05] <Z0idburg>
oh wth
<Z0idburg>
oh wthL944[16:22:20] <Z0idburg> I
really didnt want to be driving but I had to go pick my other half
up
<Z0idburg> I
really didnt want to be driving but I had to go pick my other half
upL945[16:22:26] <Z0idburg>
and all of a sudden something broke
<Z0idburg>
and all of a sudden something brokeL946[16:23:14] <Z0idburg>
car is shaking violently and the car reeks of oil suddenly, I
really hope it's that blasted O2 sensor again
<Z0idburg>
car is shaking violently and the car reeks of oil suddenly, I
really hope it's that blasted O2 sensor againL947[16:23:19] <Skye> Goodnight
L948[16:23:40] <Z0idburg>
and not a cracked piston head or something from the oil pan leak
getting worse and draining all the oil out
<Z0idburg>
and not a cracked piston head or something from the oil pan leak
getting worse and draining all the oil outL949[16:24:01] <ben_mkiv> wouldnt drive
without oil
L950[16:24:05] <ben_mkiv> that calls for
more damage
L951[16:24:14] <Z0idburg>
it had tons of oil
<Z0idburg>
it had tons of oilL952[16:24:18] <Z0idburg>
but there's a leak in the oil pan
<Z0idburg>
but there's a leak in the oil panL953[16:24:27] <Z0idburg>
it's very slow atm unless it got worse suddenly
<Z0idburg>
it's very slow atm unless it got worse suddenlyL954[16:24:32] <ben_mkiv> inb4 engine
fault
L955[16:24:56] <Z0idburg>
either way I hope that's not the issue
<Z0idburg>
either way I hope that's not the issueL956[16:25:12] <Z0idburg>
if it IS I'll be pulling another engine out of a jeep at the yard I
go to
<Z0idburg>
if it IS I'll be pulling another engine out of a jeep at the yard I
go toL957[16:25:19] <Z0idburg>
possibly this weekend
<Z0idburg>
possibly this weekendL958[16:27:49] <Z0idburg> I
just installed 6 brand new spark plugs into the thing
<Z0idburg> I
just installed 6 brand new spark plugs into the thingL959[16:27:56] <Z0idburg>
so that shouldn't be an issue, the coils are fine
<Z0idburg>
so that shouldn't be an issue, the coils are fineL960[16:31:16] <Z0idburg>
well the good news is I have more than one car
<Z0idburg>
well the good news is I have more than one carL961[16:31:35] <Z0idburg>
but the other car is annoying to drive
<Z0idburg>
but the other car is annoying to driveL962[16:39:40]
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L965[16:45:26] <Z0idburg>
wth
<Z0idburg>
wthL966[16:45:50] <Z0idburg>
apparently led zeplin got sued over choices of chords and
notes
<Z0idburg>
apparently led zeplin got sued over choices of chords and
notesL967[16:46:15] <Z0idburg> I
hate it when layers push shit when they don't even know anything at
ALL about the subjetc
<Z0idburg> I
hate it when layers push shit when they don't even know anything at
ALL about the subjetcL968[16:46:20] <Z0idburg>
subject*
<Z0idburg>
subject*L969[16:46:41] <Z0idburg>
it's as bad as governments making laws about shit they don't even
know anything about.
<Z0idburg>
it's as bad as governments making laws about shit they don't even
know anything about.L970[16:46:49] <kubson3824> Heeey, I've
got a quick question
L971[16:47:06] <CompanionCube> %ask
L972[16:47:12] <CompanionCube> what's the
command?
L973[16:49:10] <kubson3824> Sooo, i'm
having a small issue with OC in the FTB Revelations modpack
L974[16:49:19] <ben_mkiv> %hello
L975[16:49:19] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L976[16:52:29] <kubson3824> Yeah, the
thing is I kinda can't provide an example. I made a robot,
installed OpenOS on it. After it installed, I destroyed it so I
could move it. When I placed it down again and tried turning it on
I've got "Unrecoverable error Computer halted".
L977[16:53:06] <ben_mkiv> so it booted
once?
L978[16:54:06] <kubson3824> Yeah, booted
once, installed the os and afterwards it wouldn't boot again.
L979[16:54:26] <kubson3824> It is on a MP
server btw and a similar thing happens to the computers after the
server restarts
L980[16:54:57] <ben_mkiv> might be the bug
where no files are saved at all, which was fixed in latest
opencomputers version if im not wrong
L981[16:56:39] <kubson3824> Alright, I
will give it a shot, thanks
L982[16:58:41] <ben_mkiv> so oc 1.7.4 has
the fix, and as you said FTB they probably use an older build
L983[16:59:33] <kubson3824> Yeah, ftb has
1.7.3
L984[17:00:18] <ben_mkiv> yea, one can
rely on ftb using outdated mods :P
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around?
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L988[17:21:33] <ben_mkiv> btw. fixed the
"render" glitch
L989[17:21:48] <ben_mkiv> which was more a
glitch about how the rolldoor searched for more blocks...
L990[17:22:25] <Mimiru> Yeah, I saw this
morning before I left for work
L991[17:22:34] <Mimiru> still wish I could
run the stupid thing from my IDE..
L992[17:23:20] <Mimiru> ugh why does this
query not return all of the rows...
L993[17:23:21] <ben_mkiv> idk if its
somehow related to galacticraft not working with its own deobf
builds
L994[17:23:36] <Mimiru> GC hasn't given me
any issues
L995[17:23:41] <Mimiru> it's been AR and
Libvulpes
L996[17:23:54] <ben_mkiv> or was it AR?
anyways the sealed container thing
L997[17:24:20] <Mimiru> yeah that's
libvulpes/ar
L998[17:24:22] <ben_mkiv> someone said you
can setup class pathes somewhere in eclipse which should be scoped
for debugging, and you might be able to remove AR/GC pathes
there
L999[17:36:10] <Mimiru> arg.. why does
this query not pull all of the data..
L1000[17:43:55] <Zef>
Why would it do what you want?
<Zef>
Why would it do what you want?L1001[17:50:50] <Izaya> >2005 Yamaha
R1
L1002[17:50:54] <Izaya> >$9
Negotiable
L1003[18:02:18] <Zef>
%tonk
<Zef>
%tonkL1004[18:02:19] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
Zef! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 1 hour, 1 minute
and 54 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1005[18:02:20] <MichiBot> Zef's new
record is 2 hours, 29 minutes and 59 seconds! 1 hour, 28 minutes
and 5 seconds gained!
L1006[18:08:17] <Zef>
%potion
<Zef>
%potionL1007[18:08:18] <MichiBot> Zef: You get a
smelly cyan potion
L1008[18:08:23] <Zef>
%drink ^
<Zef>
%drink ^L1009[18:08:23] <MichiBot> Zef gains the
ability to talk to bricks.
L1010[18:08:40] <Zef> I
will befriend the walls of my school
<Zef> I
will befriend the walls of my schoolL1011[18:23:55] <Mimiru> %restart
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L1015[18:24:33] <Mimiru> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L1016[18:24:56] <Mimiru> well, theres
duplicate data.. for sure :D
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consolidated duplicates.
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L1024[20:26:01] <Z0idburg> feeding vegans gummy bears
<Z0idburg> feeding vegans gummy bearsL1025[20:26:11] <Zef>
Thank you
<Zef>
Thank youL1026[20:26:22] <Z0idburg> THEY HAVE NO IDEA
<Z0idburg> THEY HAVE NO IDEAL1027[20:27:13] <Zef>
Lol
<Zef>
LolL1028[20:27:37] <Zef>
It's not like they're allergic to animal products
<Zef>
It's not like they're allergic to animal productsL1029[20:27:51] <Zef>
They choose not to eat them for the sake of the environment
<Zef>
They choose not to eat them for the sake of the environmentL1030[20:28:49] <Z0idburg> It's not vegans that I
hate
<Z0idburg> It's not vegans that I
hateL1031[20:29:07] <Z0idburg> it's the offensive control freak
asshole vegans that I like to troll
<Z0idburg> it's the offensive control freak
asshole vegans that I like to trollL1032[20:29:32] <Z0idburg> The vegans with the "you
eat meat so you are disgusting" attitude
<Z0idburg> The vegans with the "you
eat meat so you are disgusting" attitudeL1033[20:30:01]
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L1034[20:30:02] <Zef>
Yeah fuck those ones
<Zef>
Yeah fuck those onesL1035[20:30:10] <Zef>
Hello
<Zef>
HelloL1036[20:30:17] <Z0idburg> I went on a date with a
vegetarian once
<Z0idburg> I went on a date with a
vegetarian onceL1037[20:30:30] <Z0idburg> and she was not offended at all
that I wanted chicken parm
<Z0idburg> and she was not offended at all
that I wanted chicken parmL1038[20:30:36] <Z0idburg> so I ordered chicken parm
<Z0idburg> so I ordered chicken parmL1039[20:31:07] <Z0idburg> I decided not to continute
dating her though because I didn't think she'd put up with me
<Z0idburg> I decided not to continute
dating her though because I didn't think she'd put up with meL1040[20:31:10] <Z0idburg> XD
<Z0idburg> XDL1041[20:32:29] <Zef>
Oof
<Zef>
OofL1042[20:34:03] <Z0idburg> That's okay. I've been with my
current girlfriend for I dunno
<Z0idburg> That's okay. I've been with my
current girlfriend for I dunnoL1043[20:34:13] <AmandaC> %roll 1d3
L1044[20:34:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
[1]
L1045[20:34:14] <Z0idburg> 8 years or so
<Z0idburg> 8 years or soL1046[20:34:51] <Z0idburg> She's a nut but I put up with
her and she puts up with me ?
<Z0idburg> She's a nut but I put up with
her and she puts up with me ?L1047[20:35:18] <Zef>
I'm still looking around, actually got myself a date Saturday
<Zef>
I'm still looking around, actually got myself a date SaturdayL1048[20:35:26] <Z0idburg> Well there you go
<Z0idburg> Well there you goL1049[20:37:18] <Wattana
Gaming> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
<Wattana
Gaming> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL1050[20:37:23] <Wattana
Gaming> *Autism intensifies*
<Wattana
Gaming> *Autism intensifies*L1051[20:37:27] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming gtty is like 95%
done
<Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming gtty is like 95%
doneL1052[20:37:41] <Wattana
Gaming> ok
<Wattana
Gaming> okL1053[20:37:53] <Z0idburg> there's an odd print bug
<Z0idburg> there's an odd print bugL1054[20:37:56] <Z0idburg> but I'm working on it
<Z0idburg> but I'm working on itL1055[20:39:28] <Wattana
Gaming> will there be a documentation?
<Wattana
Gaming> will there be a documentation?L1056[20:39:46]
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L1057[20:39:51] <Zef>
Maybe somebody can help me with something I was trying
earlier
<Zef>
Maybe somebody can help me with something I was trying
earlierL1058[20:40:44] <Zef> I
was trying to store a basic image in just a line of numbers, each
number referring to a pallette color which is irrelevant
<Zef> I
was trying to store a basic image in just a line of numbers, each
number referring to a pallette color which is irrelevantL1059[20:41:40] <Zef>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/totakecugo
<Zef>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/totakecugoL1060[20:42:08] <Zef>
How would I access a point on that based on x and y position?
<Zef>
How would I access a point on that based on x and y position?L1061[20:49:06] <Kleadron> your image isnt telling the
program when to shift down a line?
<Kleadron> your image isnt telling the
program when to shift down a line?L1062[20:49:40] <Zef>
Earlier in the file it tells the width and height of the
image
<Zef>
Earlier in the file it tells the width and height of the
imageL1063[20:49:49] <Kleadron> smart
<Kleadron> smartL1064[20:51:10] <Zef>
The file actually looks kinda like
<Zef>
The file actually looks kinda likeL1065[20:51:10] <Zef>
digitsinwidth width digitsinheight height numberofcolors
digitsincolor color ... image
<Zef>
digitsinwidth width digitsinheight height numberofcolors
digitsincolor color ... imageL1066[20:51:29] <Zef>
Just a stream of numbers, probably a better way to do it but
eh
<Zef>
Just a stream of numbers, probably a better way to do it but
ehL1067[20:51:58] <AmandaC> https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1095852375993131008?s=19
L1068[21:00:01] <Kleadron> everything is a stream of
numbers
<Kleadron> everything is a stream of
numbersL1069[21:00:06] <Kleadron> ;)
<Kleadron> ;)L1070[21:00:25]
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L1071[21:04:05] <Zef>
Well I mean like 1313232563221112221221
<Zef>
Well I mean like 1313232563221112221221L1072[21:07:06] <Zef>
That'd be a valid image in my format
<Zef>
That'd be a valid image in my formatL1073[21:10:04] <Zef>
And actually tbh the reason I started working on that format is
because I want to try making a video player
<Zef>
And actually tbh the reason I started working on that format is
because I want to try making a video playerL1074[21:10:31] <AmandaC> %8ball be
bad?
L1075[21:10:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L1076[21:10:36] <AmandaC> Aww
L1077[21:10:38] <AmandaC> Okay
L1078[21:26:41] <AmandaC> Night
nerds
L1079[21:37:47] <Mimiru> %tonk
L1080[21:37:47] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
Mimiru! You beat Zef's previous record of 2 hours, 29 minutes and
59 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1081[21:37:48] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new
record is 3 hours, 35 minutes and 28 seconds! 1 hour, 5 minutes and
29 seconds gained!
L1082[21:38:50] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L1083[21:38:50] <MichiBot> Mimiru has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
Current score: 0.003
L1084[21:39:02] <Mimiru> Well..
L1085[21:39:03] <Mimiru> fuck
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L1087[21:44:01] <Mimiru> wait...
L1088[21:44:02] <Mimiru> what
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L1091[22:22:59] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L1092[22:23:01] <MichiBot> Mimiru has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.0 tonk points!
Current score: 0.003
L1093[22:23:08] <Mimiru> but...
L1094[22:23:09] <Mimiru> wat
L1095[22:34:28] <Mimiru>
%tonkpoints
L1096[22:34:29] <MichiBot> Mimiru: You
currently have 0.003 points!
L1097[22:34:34] <Mimiru> BUT
WHERE?!
L1098[22:35:15] <Mimiru> oh...
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L1105[22:42:35] <Mimiru>
%tonkpoints
L1106[22:42:36] <MichiBot> Mimiru: You
currently have 0.049 points!
L1107[22:46:56] <Mimiru> https://www.marvel.com/captainmarvel duuuuude the
90's internet!
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L1109[22:55:38] <Wattana
Gaming> string.rep("REEEEEEEE", 100000000)
<Wattana
Gaming> string.rep("REEEEEEEE", 100000000)L1110[22:55:43] <Wattana
Gaming> I spammed the server
<Wattana
Gaming> I spammed the serverL1111[22:55:50] <Wattana
Gaming> now what?
<Wattana
Gaming> now what?L1112[22:59:56] *
Mimiru eye roll
L1113[23:00:08] <Mimiru> So
funny/original.
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L1118[23:52:15] <Forecaster> @Mimiru ?
<Forecaster> @Mimiru ?