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L1[00:01:39] <Mimiru> wow
@"ben_mkiv" you weren't kidding, this thing is a tad
buggy :P
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<Wattana
Gaming> -.-. --.- -.. / -.-. --.- -.. / ... --- ... / - .. - .-
-. .. -.-. / .--. --- ... .. - .. --- -. / ....- .---- .-.-.- ....-
....- / -. / ..... ----- .-.-.- ..--- ....- / .-- .-.-.- / .-. .
--.- ..- .. .-. . / .. -- -- . -.. .. .- - . / .- ... ... .. ... -
.- -. -.-. . .-.-.- / -.-. --- -- . / .- - / --- -. -.-. . .-.-.- /
.-- . / ... - .-. ..- -.-. -.- / .- -. / .. -.-. . -... . .-. --.
.-.-.- / ... .. -. -.- .. -. --.
L5[01:17:33] <Mimiru> %lookup
eos.pc-logix.com
L6[01:17:33] <MichiBot> ERROR: No DNS record
for 'eos.pc-logix.com'
L7[01:17:34] <MichiBot> DNS server failure
[response code 2] Resolved: Unresolved: eos.pc-logix.com
L8[01:19:46] <payonel> @"Z0idburg"
`package.loaded[libname] = nil` will effectively
"unrequire" a cached/required lib. but this is messy, and
should only be done on 1. your libs, and 2. for testing. for real
code, you shouldn't be requiring libs that shouldn't be
cached
L9[01:20:02] <payonel> @"Wattana
Gaming" you had questions about how openos mounts drives? i
can answer that
L10[01:21:19]
<Wattana
Gaming> how?
L11[01:21:30] <payonel> @"Zef"
term.clear() only clears the display, not input
L12[01:22:55] <payonel> @"Wattana
Gaming" the core fs library keeps a tree of the fs
L13[01:23:31] <payonel> nodes in that tree
can have an fs driver, which represent a mount point
L14[01:23:37] <payonel> is that what you're
asking?
L15[01:25:24]
<Wattana
Gaming> Well my kernel did not use the fs library from
OpenOS
L16[01:26:30] <payonel> that's fine. why
does that matter?
L17[01:26:38] <payonel> i thought you were
asking about how openos mounts
L18[01:34:28] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L19[01:34:28] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
CompanionCube! You beat Mimiru's previous record of 1 hour, 23
minutes and 5 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L20[01:34:29] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 2 hours, 10 minutes and 39 seconds! 47 minutes and 33
seconds gained!
L21[01:34:41]
<Wattana
Gaming> nvm
L22[01:34:44] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L23[01:34:45] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
Current score: 0.023
L24[01:34:51] <payonel> :(
L25[01:34:56] <payonel> BUT I LOVE
explaining openos stuff
L26[01:37:57]
<Wattana
Gaming> well..... I am making my own kernel that can provide
base functions to the operating system like fs and gpu driver
L27[01:38:24]
<Wattana
Gaming> And I want it to be able to mount drives on a
directory
L28[01:39:23] <payonel> well i think
openos' tree nodes works pretty well
L29[01:39:33] <payonel> you don't have to
create a map of everything
L30[01:39:36] <payonel> just the virtual
parts
L31[01:42:20] <stephan48> re
"unrequiring": i mostly do this during development of
background running stuff in OC. but yea you could end up with quite
a unclean state this way
L32[01:43:50] <stephan48> thanks payonel
for being there as often as possible and tirelessly helping!
L33[01:46:39] <payonel> :) hehe, you're
welcome. though i enjoy explaining how oc/openos works more than i
enjoy working on it
L34[01:51:53]
<Forecaster>
%tonk
L35[01:51:53] <MichiBot> Heckgosh!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0! I
hope you're happy!
L36[01:51:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 17 minutes and 8 seconds! 17 minutes and 8 seconds
gained!
L38[02:14:10] <MichiBot>
I've No More
F***s To Give! | length:
3m 6s | Likes:
39,993 Dislikes:
403 Views:
836,504 | by
Thomas
Benjamin Wild Esq | Published On 3/1/2019
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<Z0idburg>
Hi Payonel
L51[06:01:13] <dequbed> Izaya: What's that
furniture from?
L52[06:01:24] <Izaya> Rustic and
Bibliocraft
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L56[07:14:38]
<Z0idburg>
aha! I guess I lied Zef
L57[07:15:18]
<Z0idburg>
correction: I never ever use variables outside of a function (i.e.
globally scoped) UNLESS I never ever change their value.
L58[07:15:24]
<Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming ^
L59[07:15:35]
<Z0idburg> I
forgot I like making pseudo constants
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L61[07:16:14]
<Z0idburg>
hey there
L63[07:16:30]
<Z0idburg>
You fixed Mimiru's stuff yet?
L64[07:16:35]
<Z0idburg>
LOL that image is hilarious
L65[07:16:52] *
Izaya adds tenor.com to the block list
L66[07:16:57]
<Z0idburg>
though it would have been better if the recursive nature was
smoother
L68[07:17:57] <Izaya> S3: inconsistent
speed makes me unhappy
L69[07:18:12]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L70[07:18:26]
<Wattana
Gaming> ***You're eating RECURSION***
L71[07:18:56]
<Forecaster>
You're repeating the punchline
L72[07:19:12]
<Wattana
Gaming> *You rekt my fun*
L73[07:19:26] <Izaya> *your asterisks are
annoying
L74[07:19:34]
<ben_mkiv>
mimiru what bugs did you run into? actually im only aware of
invisible collision boxes xD
L75[07:26:24]
<Z0idburg>
Do you know what the first control character to be supported by
gtty is?
L76[07:26:32]
<Z0idburg>
@Wattana Gaming ^
L77[07:26:55]
<Z0idburg>
ascii code 7!
L78[07:27:00]
<Z0idburg>
it will work
L79[07:28:42]
<Z0idburg>
you will be able toi shut it off though by setting beep = false in
the terminal table
L80[07:28:57]
<Z0idburg>
terminal.beep = false
L81[07:29:00]
<Z0idburg>
or..
L82[07:29:38]
<Z0idburg>
yeah.
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L84[07:43:18]
<Zef>
%tonk
L85[07:43:18] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Zef!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 17 minutes and 8 seconds!
I hope you're happy!
L86[07:43:19] <MichiBot> Zef's new record
is 5 hours, 51 minutes and 25 seconds! 5 hours, 34 minutes and 16
seconds gained!
L87[07:44:40]
<Forecaster>
%potion
L88[07:44:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a ripe purple potion
L89[07:44:44]
<Forecaster>
%drink ^
L90[07:44:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns
into a newt.
L91[07:44:50]
<Forecaster>
aw
L92[07:45:00]
<MGR> Will
you get better?
L93[07:45:29]
<MGR>
%potion
L94[07:45:29] <MichiBot> MGR: You get a
porous ocean potion
L95[07:45:33]
<MGR> %drink
^
L96[07:45:33] <MichiBot> MGR's hair grows
three times longer.
L97[07:45:46]
<MGR>
Alright, Super Saiyan 3 hair it is
L98[07:46:54]
<Zef>
Oo
L99[07:47:00]
<Zef> %drink
^
L100[07:47:01] <MichiBot> Zef's hair grows
three times longer.
L101[07:47:07]
<Zef> Now
I'm super floofy
L102[07:49:18] <ben_mkiv> %potion
L103[07:49:18] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You
get a viscous rock potion
L104[07:49:28] <ben_mkiv> srsly.. if its
the marble thing...
L105[07:49:28] <ben_mkiv> %drink ^
L106[07:49:29] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv has a
single tear roll down their cheek for some reason.
L107[07:49:41] <ben_mkiv> tear of
joy
L108[07:51:27]
<Lizzian>
%potion
L109[07:51:27] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get
a salty gold potion
L110[07:51:31]
<Lizzian>
%drink ^
L111[07:51:32] <MichiBot> Lizzian shrinks
by a negligible amount.
L112[07:51:38]
<Lizzian>
hm
L113[07:58:01] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
reading a story about magically resizing clothing left my
subconscious with very strange ideas for how clothing works
L114[07:58:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L116[08:00:08] <AmandaC> %tell Inari like,
were going ice skating? K. Slip on the ice blade accessory. Oh,
done? Better put heels on ontop of the boots + blade.
L117[08:00:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L118[08:03:35]
<Forecaster>
knife boots!
L119[08:07:49]
<Z0idburg>
aha
L120[08:08:13]
<Z0idburg> a
tty shouldnt have a cursor
L121[08:08:51]
<Z0idburg>
it should be the job of the supporting software that makes the os
drive a cursor not the tty
L122[08:09:09]
<Z0idburg>
this is starting to make sense
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<Zef> uu
matter is just expensive emc
L125[08:37:01]
<Lizzian>
what about UwU matter?
L126[08:37:11]
<Z0idburg>
once I work out any typos etc and logic issues @Wattana Gaming
print() is pretty simple:
L128[08:37:58]
<Z0idburg>
prints only job will be to forward off scrolling and print what it
can fit on the screen, not the entire string
L129[08:38:33]
<Z0idburg>
it recursively chops up the remaining buffer (scrolling in the
future) and printing what it can fit until there is no buffer
left.
L130[08:39:14]
<Z0idburg>
control characters like carriage return line feed etc are all
handled by a separate function
L131[08:45:32]
<Zef> Why
does print need to be recursive
L132[08:51:02]
<Shikashi>
hey guys, quick question before i start coding: Can I use
microcontrollers to manage network matters? Im kinda down to
program my own switch
L133[08:51:16]
<MGR> Yes
you can
L134[08:51:21]
<Shikashi>
yas
L135[08:51:23]
<Shikashi>
thanks
L136[08:53:33] <Skye> Key limitation is
that you cant send or receive as other addresses
L137[08:53:49] <Skye> So you have to use
or make a protocol that goes on top of the built in OC
networking
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L140[09:28:11]
<Zef> I
actually had a "protocol" at one point for relaying
messages back and forth
L141[09:28:45]
<Zef> Say
you had a computer and a server with 2 routers in between
L142[09:28:45]
<Zef> C >
R1 > R2 > S
L143[09:29:17]
<Zef> The
computer knows the address of the server and the first router so it
sends the message like
L144[09:29:49]
<Zef> ~w
modem
L146[09:30:20]
<Zef> Eh it
won't load I'll do it off memory
L147[09:30:48]
<Zef>
modem.send(channel, R1, S, message)
L148[09:31:13]
<Zef> Then
the router would recieve that and it knows it has to send it to the
second router
L149[09:31:54]
<Zef>
modem.send(channel, R2, R1, S, message)
L150[09:32:28]
<Zef> It
includes the address path the message has followed so the response
can reliability make it back to the original computer
L151[09:33:03]
<Zef>
Probably a better way to do it but eh
L152[09:33:56]
<MGR> It's
not too bad
L153[09:34:48]
<Zef> And
actually my router code allowed for wireless connections and would
ping all connections every few seconds so it can ensure a live
connection
L154[09:37:50]
<Zef> But
all messages were composed of serialized tables
L155[09:38:13]
<Zef> That
would be unserialized and interpreted differently depending on the
application
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L158[10:17:00] <Inari> 3 tells!
L159[10:17:12] <Inari> "You have 3
tell(s) currently waiting for you." I won't stand for
that
L160[10:17:56] <Inari> AmandaC: Oo
L161[10:18:21] <Inari> AmandaC: Hm I'm not
sure I agree on the FTL thing. Maybe wormholes are just the common
way to do it. Similar how heating something will always mean
introducing heat to it
L162[10:19:17] <Inari> (and yes, thats a
bad exmaple)
L164[10:33:50]
<Z0idburg>
Zef, Why wouldn't I make it recursive
L165[10:40:23]
<Z0idburg>
To the imperative programmer it might never make sense why I
would
L166[10:40:50]
<Z0idburg>
but I don't do a whole lot of imperative programming and I avoid it
when I can
L167[10:41:22]
<Z0idburg> I
also tend to avoid object oriented solutions
L168[10:42:15]
<Z0idburg>
Object oriented has serious flaws just like any paradigm, but OOP's
serious flaws are something I would prefer not to worry
about.
L169[10:51:21] <Inari> Stack frame
L171[10:53:52] <Temia> %loot
L172[10:53:53] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a
loot box! It contains a tiny packet of ketchup.
L173[10:54:00] <Inari> %pet Temia
L174[10:54:01] *
MichiBot brushes Temia with a floofy birb. 9 health
gained!
L175[10:54:05] <Inari> ooh
L176[10:54:15] <Temia> <3
L177[10:59:14] <Skye> Inari, I found some
cute images of fox girls, how should I give them to you?
L178[10:59:25] <Inari> Not dirty
L180[11:08:49] <Inari> Like, don't do
dirty things to them befor ehanding them to me
L184[11:09:46]
<Forecaster>
%inv add a bucket of mud
L185[11:09:47] *
MichiBot summons 'a bucket of mud' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L186[11:09:52]
<Forecaster>
%fling
L187[11:09:52] <Temia> Maybe?
L188[11:09:52] *
MichiBot flings a Magic p90! (25%) in a random direction. It hits
DFrostedWang on a body part they didn't even know they had. They
take 24 damage (22+2).
L189[11:09:56]
<Forecaster>
dang
L190[11:10:10] <Inari> I know the second
one, it's cute
L191[11:10:14] <Skye> %inv add a bucket of
cat (cats are liquid_
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L195[11:11:22]
<Zef>
Oof
L196[11:11:37] <Inari> Hm I prefer
single-tailed
L197[11:13:01] <Temia> Ooh, contemporary
Ran :o
L198[11:13:13] <Inari> Ran?
L199[11:13:18] <Temia> That's the fox in
question
L200[11:13:25] <Inari> Ah, Touhou
L201[11:13:40] <Temia> She's a cute fox.
*sagenods*
L202[11:13:55] <Inari> We'll make her
cute
L203[11:13:57] *
Inari fetches the axe
L204[11:14:50] <Inari> Reminds me, I need
to re-establish my quitquotes
L205[11:19:47]
<Z0idburg> I
wonder how many of these Inari draws
L207[11:22:50] <Skye> I found an animated
fox girl
L208[11:22:52] <Skye> That blinks
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L211[11:26:37] <Inari> L-lewd
L212[11:27:21]
<Forecaster>
blinking is lewd? :P
L213[11:27:42] <Inari> Nah, just the rest
of the pic
L214[11:31:04] <Temia> That's a bit much,
yeah.
L215[11:33:50] <Inari> Swing those
hips!
L216[11:34:07]
<Forecaster>
what
L217[11:34:18] <Inari> Just listening to
music
L219[11:37:04]
<MGR>
"This utterly shocked Karen. She showed me her best impression
of a fish before she started to visibly vibrate in inarticulate
rage. " --- Quote 1/2
L220[11:37:07]
<MGR> Also
yes
L221[11:40:37]
<Zef>
Oof
L222[11:40:39] <Inari> Anyone know some
apng2gif thingy for windows
L223[11:41:06]
<MGR> I
think I saw one once on a webpage (not downloaded)
L224[11:41:14] <Inari> Yeah, but thats a
pain
L225[11:41:24]
<MGR>
Yeah
L226[11:41:31] <Inari> Hrm, I wonder how
easy it is to use Rust for Qt
L227[11:42:15] <Inari> Well, the bindings
avaialble both have their last commit in feb 2017
L228[11:42:17] <Inari> so probably not
easy
L229[11:43:57] <Inari> Guess I'll whip up
a apng2gif thing in nodejs
L230[11:45:03]
<MGR>
Javascript ?
L231[11:45:19] <Inari> Well, it seems like
the best thing
L232[11:45:23] <Inari> node has libs for
about everything
L233[11:45:47]
<MGR> Oh I'm
not arguing with you at all
L234[11:45:59]
<MGR> I'm
just thinking about the reactions of some of the people here
L235[11:48:16]
<MGR>
"Tech A arrives to find this ticket sitting at the top of
their queue, escalated in priority several levels due to a bug in
ServiceNow (which I believe is called "we're using
ServiceNow")" --- Quote 2/2
L236[11:49:42] <Inari> Well, I'd use
something else if something else was as simple
L237[11:49:42] <Inari> :p
L238[11:50:18]
<MGR>
?
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L241[12:01:03]
<Warior4356>
Can I make a robot build a robot? Or would I need another form of
auto crafting?
L242[12:02:08]
<MGR> Robots
can only be built in assemblers, and I don't think robots can
operate an assembler
L243[12:02:20]
<Warior4356>
<- has a stupid idea to try and make replicators. Robots that
mine to make robots that mine to make robots....
L244[12:02:43]
<Forecaster>
you are probably not the first to have that idea
L245[12:02:44]
<Forecaster>
:P
L246[12:02:52]
<Warior4356>
No probably not.
L247[12:03:01]
<Warior4356>
I have an efficient mining script.
L248[12:03:14]
<MGR> If you
have a single computer though, you can realize your plan
L249[12:03:23]
<MGR>
because the computer can operate an assembler *i think*
L250[12:03:46]
<Forecaster>
I'm fairly sure an assembler can be activated by a computer
L251[12:03:53]
<Warior4356>
Where it’s not quarrying and instead gets all the ore from a 32x32
column with the minimum extra digging.
L252[12:04:00]
<Forecaster>
so you can have a computer next to it and send a wireless signal to
it
L253[12:04:13]
<Warior4356>
What about placing the correct items in the correct slots?
L254[12:04:29]
<MGR> robots
can do that I think
L255[12:04:30]
<Warior4356>
I wonder if a robot could do that...
L256[12:04:36]
<MGR> robots
can place the items
L257[12:04:42]
<Forecaster>
probably just inventory interaction if the assembler exposes
it
L258[12:04:52]
<Forecaster>
that's easy to do
L259[12:04:59]
<Warior4356>
I might add tesseracts and an ME system to properly handle storage
and recharging.
L260[12:05:18]
<Warior4356>
Though ender chests would probably work.
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L263[12:05:57]
<Warior4356>
Honestly, the hardest part I think is preventing them from
overlapping where to work.
L264[12:06:23]
<Warior4356>
Sending one robot to mine is pretty simple.
L265[12:06:24]
<Warior4356>
Sending one robot to mine is pretty simple.
L266[12:07:15] <Inari> Tesseracts *hisses
and shies away*
L267[12:07:20]
<Warior4356>
Hmmm. Maybe combining gps with a computer playing master controller
to give them each their own 32 block wide column to consume.
L268[12:07:44]
<Warior4356>
The idea with tesseracts was, place tesseract and Charger. Recharge
and dump ore.
L269[12:07:48]
<Warior4356>
Pick up
L270[12:08:04]
<Warior4356>
I mean they could burn coal but that’s kinda wasteful.
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L274[12:09:05]
<Warior4356>
Remind me how GPS on robot’s works?
L275[12:09:15]
<Warior4356>
Is it relative or absolute
L276[12:09:35]
<MGR>
relative
L277[12:09:52]
<Warior4356>
Hmmm
L278[12:10:00]
<Warior4356>
Can they get their absolute cords?
L279[12:10:06]
<Forecaster>
no
L280[12:10:07] <ben_mkiv> no
L281[12:10:23]
<Forecaster>
only in relation to the map that was used to make the nav
upgrade
L282[12:10:25]
<Warior4356>
Hrrrrm. Can a computer?
L283[12:10:28] <ben_mkiv> no
L284[12:10:29]
<Forecaster>
no
L285[12:10:35]
<Warior4356>
?
L286[12:10:53]
<Forecaster>
you can use wireless signals to ping a computer to get the distance
to it
L287[12:11:02]
<Warior4356>
Solution. Craft hundreds of maps at 0,0
L288[12:11:08] <ben_mkiv> no
L289[12:11:09]
<Forecaster>
using multiple you can triangulate the position if you know the
position of each computer
L290[12:11:18] <ben_mkiv> the size is
limited
L291[12:11:22] <ben_mkiv> to the size of
the map
L292[12:11:32]
<Warior4356>
Oh.
L293[12:11:35]
<Warior4356>
Hmmm.
L294[12:11:49]
<Forecaster>
yeah, if the robot leaves the map area the upgrade doesn't work
anymore
L295[12:12:16] <Inari> Solution: make the
robot search out materials on its own, craft a a new map!
L296[12:12:21]
<Warior4356>
Great.
L297[12:12:29]
<Warior4356>
I mean that’s an option...
L298[12:12:39]
<Forecaster>
Inari: it can't switch out the upgrade though :P
L299[12:12:44]
<Forecaster>
another robot would have to do it
L300[12:12:46] <Inari> Lame!
L301[12:12:50] <Inari> So send them in
pairs
L302[12:13:00] <Inari> They won't get
lonely that way
L303[12:13:02]
<Warior4356>
It’s a bit of a shame that a computer can’t get its absolute
location
L304[12:13:14] <Inari> It's
reasonable
L305[12:13:17] <Inari> 'tis ain't
magic
L306[12:13:20]
<Forecaster>
if you place the computer you can tell it it's absolute
location
L307[12:13:29]
<Warior4356>
Ah!
L308[12:13:36]
<Warior4356>
Then a new question
L309[12:13:47]
<Warior4356>
When getting distance between two computers
L310[12:13:53]
<Warior4356>
Is it multiple values or one?
L311[12:14:00]
<Forecaster>
one
L312[12:14:07]
<Warior4356>
Ffffffffff
L313[12:14:20]
<Forecaster>
hence why you need multiple points, to triangulate
L314[12:14:21] <Inari> ?.?
L315[12:14:29] <Inari> Why would the
distanc be multiple values
L316[12:14:36]
<Forecaster>
x y z
L317[12:14:37] <ben_mkiv> he wants
x,y,z
L318[12:14:39] <Inari> Oh
L319[12:14:42]
<Warior4356>
If it was x,y,z it would be much more useful
L320[12:14:50] <Inari> Also more
magicy
L321[12:14:52] <ben_mkiv> thats not how
signals work
L322[12:15:01]
<Warior4356>
I’m aware.
L323[12:15:08] <Inari> Heck, you're lucky
you have a simple getDistnace!
L324[12:15:14] <Inari> We should have you
calculate that from signal strength
L325[12:15:15] <Inari> :p
L326[12:15:25]
<Warior4356>
True.
L327[12:15:39] <Inari> So, why are 4 and 3
flipped?
L328[12:15:43]
<Warior4356>
I’m hoping this is actually in 1.7.1
L329[12:15:49] <ben_mkiv> inari is not
amused by your expectations xD
L330[12:15:56]
<Warior4356>
Because yay old versions
L331[12:16:16]
<Forecaster>
why are you using an old version
L332[12:16:24]
<Warior4356>
Because the server is
L333[12:16:27] <ben_mkiv> and why isnt it
spelled warrior
L334[12:16:30]
<Forecaster>
ah
L335[12:16:40]
<Warior4356>
Because I’ve always done it that way
L336[12:16:44]
<Warior4356>
It’s my thing now
L337[12:18:08]
<Warior4356>
All I have right now is a script to make a robot efficiently
consume all ore in a 32x32 column, I’m trying to figure out how to
use this in parallel with multiple robots
L338[12:18:50]
<Forecaster>
I mean, another option is to just calculate the robots position by
it's movement from a point of origin
L339[12:18:55]
<Warior4356>
Probably have a master computer that tells the robots where to go,
keeping them out of each other’s way
L340[12:19:05] <ben_mkiv> way to
complicated
L341[12:19:13]
<Warior4356>
Heh. I use that for my mining script
L342[12:19:14] <ben_mkiv> start at the
corners, and subdivide the area
L343[12:19:34] <ben_mkiv> or start on same
location and move to some offset and slice the area
L344[12:19:42]
<Warior4356>
To retract its steps to return to where it started when it “chases”
ore
L345[12:20:06]
<Warior4356>
I was just thinking each robot gets a line that’s 32 blocks
wide
L346[12:20:14] <ben_mkiv> so 32
robots?
L347[12:20:29]
<Warior4356>
The computer starts each new robot one line to the left or
right
L348[12:20:32]
<Warior4356>
Hmmm?
L349[12:20:46]
<Warior4356>
No one robot gets all the ore in a 32x32 column
L350[12:20:50] <ben_mkiv> 32x32x32 =>
one line each robot => 32 robots
L351[12:21:19]
<Warior4356>
“Line” being 32 blocks wide
L352[12:21:31]
<Warior4356>
That’s the maximum radius of the scanner
L353[12:22:13]
<Warior4356>
I’m not going to strip mine, that’s far too inefficient. At that
point there are plenty of mods that can eat all the earth. I am
surgically removing all the ore
L354[12:23:05]
<Warior4356>
Does that make sense Ben?
L355[12:23:51]
<Warior4356>
Or was it 32 blocks in each direction.... I don’t remember.
L356[12:24:06]
<Warior4356>
Eh regardless each robot can do one column at a time.
L357[12:25:44] <Inari> Use a geolyzer to
find ore
L358[12:26:01]
<Forecaster>
that's probably what they mean by "scanner"
L359[12:35:37]
<Warior4356>
I do
L360[12:35:47]
<Warior4356>
The “fuzz” is only on the Y metric
L361[12:35:58]
<Warior4356>
It’s 100% accurate on the robot’s y level
L362[12:36:12]
<Warior4356>
So it only chases ore in its slice.
L363[12:36:17] <ben_mkiv> that sounds like
a bug
L364[12:36:26]
<Warior4356>
Nah.
L365[12:36:45]
<Warior4356>
I had to make a 3 axis density array
L366[12:37:02]
<Warior4356>
The scanner returns a column at an x,z location
L367[12:37:19]
<Warior4356>
The fuzz is going up and down from the level of the robot.
L368[12:38:08]
<Warior4356>
Given you need to make a custom script to actually search a slice
by scanning every X,Z in range and making the 3-axis array.
L369[12:38:50]
<Warior4356>
Given the intended result of the scanner, I think it’s working as
intended.
L370[12:40:04] <payonel> so project red
has a power source?
L371[12:41:53]
<Z0idburg>
Payonel!
L372[12:41:58]
<Z0idburg>
Did you ever get my message?
L373[12:42:29]
<Warior4356>
Also can you settle this for us, is the lack of fuzz on the
geolyzer if you are just looking on your Y level intended?
L374[12:43:23] <ben_mkiv> well at least it
doesnt make sense to not fuzz
L375[12:44:00]
<Warior4356>
It has fuzz, based on how going up or down since it only returns
one column
L376[12:44:11]
<Warior4356>
It just applies 0 fuzz
L377[12:44:19]
<Warior4356>
Given it’s a deviation of 0 from base
L378[12:44:38]
<Warior4356>
I’m suspecting a log or sq root function to get the fuzz
L379[12:45:27] <Temia> aaaaa Liar Princess
is out
L380[12:45:29] <Temia> And
L381[12:45:37] <Temia> And you have to
hold a button to hold the prince's hand :>
L382[12:45:45]
<Warior4356>
Even if it had a little fuzz, the point that data becomes useless
when stone can detect as ore density wise.
L383[12:45:46] *
Temia jumps excitedly!
L384[12:45:50]
<Z0idburg>
FUZZY LOGIC
L385[12:46:10] <payonel> i'm back
L386[12:46:14] <payonel> sorry what
message?
L387[12:46:17]
<Warior4356>
Welcome back.
L388[12:46:20]
<Z0idburg>
oh shit
L389[12:46:26]
<Z0idburg> I
sent you a message via michibot a while back
L390[12:46:29]
<Warior4356>
Got an answer for that question payonel?
L391[12:46:31]
<Z0idburg>
like a couple days ago
L392[12:47:00] <payonel> @Warior4356 about
geolyzer and fuzz?
L393[12:47:06]
<Warior4356>
Mmmhmm
L394[12:47:24] <payonel> i've not reviewed
that for some time. you're saying the y level is exact and not
fuzzed?
L395[12:47:44]
<Warior4356>
Given that fuzz is based on how far up or down it is from relative
y 0
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L397[12:48:01]
<Warior4356>
Fuzz goes up the farther up or down you go.
L398[12:48:07]
<Warior4356>
So at 0 the fuzz is 0
L399[12:48:16] <payonel> ok, and that
seems wrong to you?
L400[12:48:24]
<Warior4356>
It seems wrong to Ben
L401[12:48:49]
<Warior4356>
Because the y 0 fuzz at x 1 z 1 and the y 0 fuzz at x 31 z 31 is
the same
L402[12:48:50]
<Forecaster>
well, I thought it was based on the distance to the robot
L403[12:48:54] <payonel> you'd think a
distance on all 3 axis would be used for fuzz, not y alone?
L404[12:48:57]
<Forecaster>
not just the y distance
L405[12:49:02] <payonel> sure
L406[12:49:16]
<Warior4356>
At least the old version was y only
L407[12:49:26]
<Warior4356>
But that was cause it returns a column of values
L408[12:49:28] <payonel> oh i've not
changed it
L409[12:49:48]
<Warior4356>
Sounds like a lot of processing expense for little return
L410[12:49:55]
<Warior4356>
The current fuzz method is cheap
L411[12:50:32]
<Warior4356>
Vs drawing a line in 3 axis 64 times per call
L412[12:50:47]
<Warior4356>
This is drawing a line in one axis
L413[12:51:32]
<Warior4356>
Do you plan on changing it payonel? Or is the current method
sufficient?
L414[12:52:34]
<Warior4356>
The reason this discussion happened was I made a 3-axis array
populated via a call on every point on two axis. Then I could look
at accuracy by slices rather than distance.
L415[12:52:50] <payonel> the code appears
to be using x y and z
L416[12:52:56] <payonel> i wonder if we're
talking about the same code
L417[12:53:09]
<Warior4356>
Hmm. Has it changed since 1.7.1?
L418[12:53:14] <payonel> no def. not
L419[12:53:20]
<Warior4356>
That’s the version my server is running.
L420[12:53:27]
<Warior4356>
MC 1.7.1
L421[12:53:30]
<Warior4356>
Not Oc
L422[12:53:47]
<Forecaster>
oh... that may be insanely outdated
L423[12:53:51]
<Warior4356>
Yes I know it’s old.
L424[12:53:55]
<Warior4356>
Not my call.
L425[12:54:00] <payonel> well first of
all, i dont base oc versions on mc
L426[12:54:00]
<Warior4356>
?
L427[12:54:06] <payonel> so telling me the
mc version almost tells me nothing
L428[12:54:10] <payonel> (not nothing, but
almost)
L429[12:54:10]
<Warior4356>
Fair.
L430[12:54:14]
<Warior4356>
About 4 years
L431[12:54:18] <ben_mkiv> ...
L432[12:54:20] <payonel> what oc
version?
L433[12:54:30] <payonel> 1.4?
L434[12:54:42]
<Warior4356>
Great question. It was the last version before open components was
added to the core mod
L435[12:54:50]
<Warior4356>
If that tells you
L436[12:54:59] <payonel> that was before i
joined :)
L437[12:55:07] <payonel> but yeah, this
code PROBABLY hasn't changed
L438[12:55:29]
<Warior4356>
Hmmm. Is the source repo public?
L439[12:55:38] <payonel> definitley
L441[12:55:50] <ben_mkiv> i just think
that fuzz should increase on distance from the geolyzer, so less
fuzz for close blocks, no matter which axis its on
L442[12:55:53]
<Warior4356>
Can you link to the geolyzer’s file?
L443[12:56:01] <payonel> ben_mkiv: that
sounds logical
L444[12:56:06]
<Warior4356>
That’s just much more expensive computationally for the
server
L445[12:56:27] <ben_mkiv> not thaaat
expensive in terms of how often it will run
L447[12:56:40]
<Warior4356>
64 times per operation.
L448[12:56:58] <payonel> but i haven't
debugged/tested this
L449[12:56:59]
<Warior4356>
If you want to do a 3-axis grid like I am. It’s 64x64x64
operations
L450[12:57:00] <payonel> so i'm not
sure
L451[12:57:39] <ben_mkiv> yea but its easy
math, and its not a direct call, so the user is limited in creating
cpuload
L452[12:58:28] <ben_mkiv> and that looks
like it already adds fuzz on same y level, too
L453[12:59:54]
<Warior4356>
Yea it does. It may have been my tests were all against blocks
close enough on the same y level the fuzz did not appear...
L454[13:00:40]
<Warior4356>
Hum. Unsure. I j
L455[13:00:41]
<Warior4356>
Hum. Unsure. I jst
L456[13:01:06] <ben_mkiv> or it was just
changed within the last 4 years
L457[13:01:19]
<Warior4356>
I just made this inna creative world, never actually tested it. So
if it is 3-axis fuzz, hmmm.
L458[13:01:46]
<Warior4356>
Working in slices is still more through, I just need to figure out
the max size I can consider the data to be accurate.
L459[13:02:04]
<Forecaster>
the fuzz is random by the way
L460[13:02:19]
<Forecaster>
so by doing multiple scans and averaging the results you get more
accurate data
L461[13:02:21]
<Warior4356>
Yea, I think I was wrong about the fuzz.
L462[13:02:26]
<Warior4356>
I know.
L463[13:03:19]
<Warior4356>
I wonder how many it would take to be confident that at max range
it’s accurate.
L464[13:03:44]
<Warior4356>
Because I know once it can’t tell the difference between soft ore
and stone the data is not very useful.
L465[13:03:45] <payonel> looks like the
scan code with that fuzz was added together, never modified
L466[13:03:52] <payonel> first added in
11/15/2015
L467[13:04:03]
<Warior4356>
Yea, thinking back I think I just had a very biased test.
L468[13:04:31]
<Warior4356>
With test blocks next to my scanner, so of course there was no fuzz
at y 0
L469[13:04:40]
<Warior4356>
The answer is I am an idiot.
L470[13:05:00] <ben_mkiv> well... i could
make a joke of your name rn
L471[13:05:01] <ben_mkiv> xD
L472[13:05:12] <ben_mkiv> just kidding
:*
L473[13:05:31]
<Warior4356>
Okay. So the point stands, how many averages to be confident in the
data, probably restricting the scan size slightly to remove the
most egregious fuzz
L474[13:05:38]
<Z0idburg>
Payonel: It was a notification that ocvm wasn't compiling because
an include directive was missing
L475[13:05:54] <ben_mkiv> well it sounds
like you dont have to deal with fuzz at all in your old oc
setup
L476[13:06:03]
<Warior4356>
I do.
L477[13:06:04] <ben_mkiv> when fuzz was
added ~2015
L478[13:06:16] <payonel>
@"Z0idburg" so how long ago was this michibot
message?
L479[13:06:18]
<Warior4356>
That’s the version I’m playing on ya dork
L480[13:06:20] <payonel> i can scan the
logs
L481[13:06:34]
<Warior4356>
One of the earliest geolyzer versions
L482[13:06:54]
<Warior4356>
I just mistook a lack of y 0 fuzz with an adjacent y to be no y 0
fuzz at all
L483[13:07:04] <payonel>
@"Z0idburg" ha sorry ... i missed you asking just a
second ago...
L484[13:07:19] <payonel> i was scrolled up
in chat to find your name to copy it (because i can't tab
complete)
L485[13:07:38] <payonel>
@"Z0idburg" yeah, and i responded to that
L486[13:07:46] <payonel> like...within 12
hours
L487[13:07:51] <payonel> and i pushed a
commit about it, too
L488[13:08:12]
<Warior4356>
What do you think @Forecaster should I limit my scan size to when I
am 100% confident or use averages?
L489[13:08:29]
<Warior4356>
A quarry would be so much easier and efficient. Ah well that’s
boring!
L490[13:08:46] <ben_mkiv> thats because
some mods made quarries way to cheap
L491[13:11:37]
<Warior4356>
To be fair. Build craft predates OC
L492[13:11:52]
<Warior4356>
The OG quarry
L493[13:12:17]
<Warior4356>
It’s 11 diamond, some gold, some iron and power
L494[13:12:20]
<Warior4356>
That’s it
L495[13:15:00]
<Zef> It's
also pretty slow
L496[13:17:56]
<Warior4356>
I’m honestly not sure if even efficient mining via OC will be
faster
L497[13:18:06]
<Warior4356>
Since it’s not that hard to get a quarry to max speed
L498[13:18:14]
<Warior4356>
That’s only 1000 tg/t
L499[13:19:26]
<Warior4356>
While a robot only has one speed. Slow.
L500[13:24:02] <ben_mkiv> xD
L501[13:24:13] <ben_mkiv> depends on the
tool that you give to the robot
L502[13:24:43] <payonel> drones can swing
too
L503[13:24:50] <payonel> why dont more
people make drone quarries :)
L504[13:25:09]
<Warior4356>
Because they are slow!
L505[13:25:21]
<Warior4356>
Oh drones.
L506[13:25:27]
<Warior4356>
I dunno.
L507[13:25:36]
<Warior4356>
I’ve not used them
L508[13:26:12] <ben_mkiv> because they can
barely pick one item
L509[13:26:16]
<Warior4356>
I just think it would be funny to make my robots make a maze of
tiny tunnels eating all the ore.
L510[13:26:49] <ben_mkiv> %seen
spacemike
L511[13:26:51] <MichiBot> spacemike was
last seen 21d 15h 6m 28s ago. Quitting
L512[13:27:00] <ben_mkiv> wonder what
happened to his tier3 drone cases
L513[13:33:10]
<Warior4356>
My eternal struggle with robots they are really cool but can do
little other mods can’t.
L514[13:33:38] <ben_mkiv> you can automate
lot of stuff with them
L515[13:34:21] <ben_mkiv> sure you can do
"most" of it with other mods, but that requires often a
lot of setup
L516[13:34:35] <ben_mkiv> while you can
just copy over a program from one server to another to do the same
with a robot
L517[13:35:09]
<Warior4356>
And in general other mods do things better
L518[13:35:39] <ben_mkiv> some stuff you
cant automate with other mods
L519[13:35:39] <payonel> oc does
"programming your own automation" better
L520[13:36:13] <payonel> some of us,
especially myself, find programming fun
L521[13:36:20] <ben_mkiv> like bibliocraft
typesetting table is a pain to automate with other mods, if its
even possible
L522[13:37:08] <payonel> does OC provide
fun for non programmers? or for gamers that dont find programming
fun all the time? in some ways, probably. i'm the wrong person to
ask about that
L523[13:37:09] <ben_mkiv> or to change
mobs on a woot multiblock, or seed/bee breeding, or compacting
machine crafting, ....
L524[13:37:57] <ben_mkiv> well, some
people write their first code because of OC
L525[13:39:27]
<Warior4356>
I’ve found compared to C style languages lua is kinda bleh
L526[13:39:38]
<Warior4356>
Not awful but not my preference
L527[13:40:43] <ben_mkiv> but its not that
hard to learn and it works good for what can be done with OC
L528[13:41:17] <payonel> and it saves you
from having to compile, which is great for simple automation
projects
L529[13:41:28] <payonel> and is literally
the best scripting language there is
L530[13:41:32] <payonel> so, there's
that
L531[13:41:33] <payonel> LUA
L532[13:41:33] <MichiBot> It's Lua, not
LUA. Name not an acronym.
L533[13:41:49] <payonel> and no, you can't
convince me otherwise :)
L534[13:42:19]
<Zef> Lua is
a scripting language different from c lol
L535[13:42:22] <ben_mkiv> and there are
mods with other archs, like at least one project that aims
python
L536[13:44:10] <ben_mkiv> and imho lua
> python xD
L537[13:44:15] <ben_mkiv> for what oc can
do
L538[13:46:10] <payonel> snail poop >
python
L539[13:46:13] <payonel> but i
digres
L540[13:46:15] <payonel> +s
L541[13:48:49] <payonel> :) i dont python
is that bad. i personally dislike it. but i have many very talented
friends that love it
L542[13:49:24] <ben_mkiv> pay, are you
aware of something which converts scala snippets to java?
L543[13:49:41] <payonel> idea tends to do
it for me when i copy paste
L544[13:49:52] <payonel> also...'payo'
pings me, not pay
L545[13:50:02] <ben_mkiv> well, you where
around so... :P
L546[13:50:04] <ben_mkiv> thanks
L547[13:50:07] <payonel> :)
L548[13:57:11] <Vexatos>
<Warior4356> I’ve found
compared to C style languages lua is kinda bleh
L549[13:57:13] <Vexatos> what
L550[13:57:22] <Vexatos> Lua is closer to
C than to any other language
L551[13:57:32] <ben_mkiv> even closer than
c!!!
L552[13:57:33] <Vexatos> it is literally
meant as an easier way to write C
L554[13:57:55] <Skye> wasn't it inspired
by a data entry "language"
L555[13:59:47] <Vexatos> Lua was inspired
by its creator being tired of writing C
L556[14:00:10] <Temia> %inv add payo
mayo
L557[14:00:11] *
MichiBot summons 'payo mayo' and adds to her inventory. I could get
some good swings in with this.
L558[14:00:36]
<Z0idburg>
payonel oh! Goes to show how often I get to look at things ?
L559[14:01:06] <payonel> i still forget
people pronounce my name "pay-oh" until i see that people
expect it rhymes with mayo
L560[14:01:31] <Skye> how do you pronounce
it
L561[14:01:56] <payonel> pie-oh
L562[14:02:09]
<Z0idburg>
payonel are you sure it won't break anything else that previously
compiled with it payonel?
L563[14:02:11] <payonel> well, more like,
pah-yo
L564[14:02:22]
<Z0idburg> I
used C++17 when I compiled it
L565[14:02:29] <payonel> yep, it's
fine
L566[14:02:29] <payonel> :)
L567[14:02:47]
<Z0idburg>
Ok, I wasn't sure if it was just moved since 14
L568[14:03:04] <Vexatos> payonel, but
"mayo" in German is pronounced like your name
L569[14:03:06] <Vexatos> :^⁾
L570[14:03:13] <payonel> ha! cool :)
L571[14:03:22]
<Warior4356>
Yea but why would you get tired of C when C is perfect
L572[14:03:42] <Vexatos> because a random
computer science professor in Rio said so
L573[14:03:55]
<Bob>
/shrug
L574[14:04:10] <Vexatos> See some people
code C
L575[14:04:19] <Vexatos> and others don't
hate their existence
L576[14:04:19]
<Z0idburg> C
is awful.
L577[14:04:40] <Vexatos> C is nice for
writing better languages in :^)
L578[14:04:53] <Vexatos> like how you use
internet explorer to download firefox
L579[14:05:15] <payonel> haha, nice
L580[14:06:34]
<Warior4356>
I admit I use more c++ or c# than c
L581[14:07:47]
<Warior4356>
Also anything is better than the chaos that is python
L582[14:08:36]
<Warior4356>
Untyped vars
L583[14:08:39]
<Warior4356>
Shudder
L584[14:09:00] <Vexatos> lua also has
untyped vars :^)
L585[14:09:04] <Vexatos> except it can
deal with them
L586[14:10:06] <ben_mkiv> didnt the EU
made IE obsolet by forcing microsoft to add the browser
selector?
L587[14:10:11] <payonel> i dont mind
untyped vars in lua. what i dont like is value coercion
L588[14:14:29]
<Warior4356>
Eh I suppose
L589[14:14:40]
<Warior4356>
Still makes code harder to read
L590[14:14:52] <payonel> like this offends
me
L591[14:14:56] <payonel> %lua 1 +
"2"
L592[14:14:56] <MichiBot> 3
L593[14:14:59] <payonel> that is just
crap
L594[14:15:03] <payonel> i really really
like lua
L595[14:15:13] <payonel> but
that...no
L596[14:15:15] <ben_mkiv> stockholm
syndrome
L597[14:15:17] <ben_mkiv> :P
L598[14:16:00] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L599[14:16:00] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle!
CompanionCube! You beat Zef's previous record of 5 hours, 51
minutes and 25 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L600[14:16:01] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 6 hours, 32 minutes and 42 seconds! 41 minutes and 17
seconds gained!
L601[14:16:07] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L602[14:16:07] <MichiBot> CompanionCube
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
Current score: 0.029
L603[14:16:11] <payonel> nice :)
L604[14:16:14] <payonel> congrats
CompanionCube
L605[14:16:14] <asie> %tonk
L606[14:16:23] <asie> 1:V
L607[14:16:58]
<Z0idburg>
shit I have a math typo on my print()
L608[14:17:08]
<Z0idburg>
it recurses forever!
L609[14:17:40]
<Z0idburg>
locked ocvm right up and made my cpu fan turn on XD
L610[14:18:50] <payonel>
@"Z0idburg" you can hit escape (usually)
L611[14:19:31]
<Forecaster>
what if... there is no escape
L612[14:19:50] <payonel> then hold your
pwr button for 3s
L613[14:19:51] <payonel> :)
L614[14:22:58]
<Forecaster>
:O
L615[14:23:03]
<Forecaster>
the power is mine!
L616[14:23:16] <Lizzy> %tonk
L617[14:23:17] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
Lizzy! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0! I hope
you're happy!
L618[14:23:18]
<Forecaster>
I'm going to use this power...
L619[14:23:18] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 7 minutes and 10 seconds! 7 minutes and 10 seconds
gained!
L620[14:23:23]
<Forecaster>
aw
L621[14:23:28]
<Forecaster>
you ruined it D:
L622[14:54:01]
<Bob> We all
should collaborate and not thonk
L623[14:54:24]
<Forecaster>
but why
L624[14:56:30] <Lizzy> nah
L625[14:56:40] <Lizzy> %tonk
L626[14:56:41] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Lizzy!
You beat your own previous record of 7 minutes and 10 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L627[14:56:42] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 33 minutes and 23 seconds! 26 minutes and 13 seconds
gained!
L628[15:08:30]
<Bob> For
science
L629[15:08:43]
<Bob> We all
need the sweet thonk points
L630[15:09:15]
<Forecaster>
there is no such thing
L631[15:12:18]
<Bob> Is the
webhook thing working, i see that now IRC messages are being
brought by Corded ?
L632[15:12:51]
<Bob> And
also if a thread in OC crashes, foes it spits an error message
somewhere
L633[15:12:52]
<Bob>
?
L634[15:15:47] <Izaya> one presumes
so
L635[15:20:36]
<Forecaster>
sometimes the webhook fails and messages fall back to the regular
method
L636[15:20:39]
<Forecaster>
it happens
L637[15:24:15] <Izaya> as tends to happen
with stuff with web at the start of the word
L639[15:41:02]
<Forecaster>
webIzaya is right
L640[15:41:59] *
Izaya becomes unreliable
L641[15:42:10] <CompanionCube> what is
webIzaya written in
L642[15:46:56] <Skye> Goodnight
L643[15:48:35]
<Forecaster>
IzayaScript
L644[15:48:38]
<Z0idburg>
heh
L645[15:50:23] <Lizzy> %tonk
L646[15:50:24] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Lizzy! You beat your own previous record of 33 minutes and 23
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L647[15:50:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new
record is 53 minutes and 43 seconds! 20 minutes and 19 seconds
gained!
L648[15:50:30] <Lizzy> mwahahaa
L649[15:53:12]
<Z0idburg>
ddamn it
L650[15:53:17]
<Z0idburg> I
was goung to get the upper hand of that
L651[15:53:27]
<Z0idburg>
but miss smarty pants over here...
L653[16:00:37] <CompanionCube> 'SGX-ROP:
Practical Enclave Malware with Intel SGX'
L654[16:30:33]
<Warior4356>
The heck is the tonk thing
L655[16:31:47]
<Zef> Tonk
is tonk
L656[16:43:18]
<Zef>
%loot
L657[16:43:19] <MichiBot> Zef: You get a
loot box! It contains a box full of worms.
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L659[16:59:09] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L660[16:59:10] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 1 hour, 8 minutes and 44 seconds! 15 minutes and 1
second gained!
L661[16:59:09] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
CompanionCube! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 53 minutes and
43 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L662[17:00:47] <asie> i'm curious
L663[17:00:48] <asie> %tonkout
L664[17:00:48] <MichiBot> You are not the
current record holder. It is CompanionCube.
L665[17:00:50] <asie> whew
L667[17:14:45]
<Forecaster>
I'd be really ashamed if I'd let that work asie :P
L668[17:15:55]
<Zef> Wow a
barrel room
L669[17:16:05]
<Zef>
Honestly haven't seen one in awhile lol
L670[17:16:08] <Izaya> Should be enough
storage for a bit
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L673[17:29:04] <asie> Izaya: you're using
the correct barrels thank you!
L674[17:29:24] <Izaya> I don't understand
what the arrows do when placing or rather why I should have them
pointed one way or another
L675[17:30:44] <asie> Oh.
L676[17:30:50] <asie> They decide the
orientation.
L677[17:31:00] <asie> The arrow points to
where the top of the barrel will be; the face decides the
front.
L678[17:31:10] <asie> You'd want them
pointed in a particular way for automation.
L679[17:31:21] <asie> Barrels accept items
through the top and back; extraction happens through the
bottom.
L680[17:31:45] <asie> You can also upgrade
barrels with some fancy expansions, again, meant for
automation.
L682[17:32:33] <asie> Hopping gives you a
built-in hopper; Sticky means the item will always keep one
instance in automation
L683[17:32:40] <ben_mkiv> want to get busy
for an hour to get 10 lines of code done? deal with OC keyboard
orientation when placed xD
L684[17:32:47] <asie> so say if you have a
stack of stone it will always keep at least one stone when
extracting through a hopper or pipe (but not when manually)
L685[17:32:55] <asie> this is done so that
you can "filter" barrels to only take in a specific
items.
L686[17:33:11] <asie> If you don't have
Charset's block carrying, you also get Silky - to keep items when
broken with silk touch axes.
L687[17:33:27] <ben_mkiv> but all of that
existed in other mods, too?!
L688[17:33:37] <asie> i'm not sure what
you mean?
L689[17:33:51] <asie> Charset's barrels
are effectively a forked version of Factorization's barrels,
starting at when that mod died
L690[17:33:54] <ben_mkiv> storage
drawers/jabba barrels for example
L691[17:34:04] <asie> And?
L692[17:34:07] <asie> Factorization had
barrels first.
L693[17:34:09] <asie> I'm continuing the
lineage.
L694[17:34:22] <asie> Because I believe
its barrel implementation to be the most balanced relative to
vanilla, as well as the most interesting
L695[17:34:31] <ben_mkiv> well then the
autors of the other mods are fools xD
L696[17:34:36] <asie> Nah.
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L698[17:34:47] <asie> They just didn't
want the rest of Factorization. It's a pretty... interesting mod,
but it doesn't fit in kitchen sinks.
L699[17:34:55] <kiroma> To charge nanobots
I should just stand in front of a charger right?
L700[17:34:55] <asie> Also Storage Drawers
and JABBA both have unique features too
L701[17:35:02] <ben_mkiv> yes kiroma
L702[17:35:05] <asie> JABBA has lots of
size upgrades; Storage Drawers has things like Compacting
Drawers
L703[17:35:10] <kiroma> Well then I'm
lost
L704[17:35:15] <asie> Charset/FZ barrels
have fewer features but I try to ensure they're really
polished
L705[17:35:21] <ben_mkiv> why
kiroma?
L706[17:35:26] <kiroma> They just won't
charge at all
L707[17:35:30] <ben_mkiv> is the charger
enabled with a scrench or redstone signal?
L708[17:35:36] <kiroma> Oh
L709[17:35:53] <kiroma> Thanks
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L713[18:34:25]
<Zef>
McFurry
L714[18:34:30]
<Zef> Oh
mrfurry
L715[18:34:32]
<Zef>
Lol
L716[18:38:40] <AmandaC> %8ball un-bury
laptop to add book two, or meh
L717[18:38:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I don't
think that's a question...
L718[18:39:02] <AmandaC> %8ball un-bury
laptop to add book two?
L719[18:39:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook
not so good
L720[18:44:50] <Mimiru> %tonk
L721[18:44:51] <MichiBot> Willikers!
Mimiru! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 1 hour, 8
minutes and 44 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L722[18:44:52] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new
record is 1 hour, 45 minutes and 41 seconds! 36 minutes and 56
seconds gained!
L723[18:46:15] <ben_mkiv> mimiru which
commit did you test before?
L724[18:46:43] <Mimiru> whatever was
current at the time.
L725[18:46:50] <ben_mkiv> what bugs did
you run into?
L726[18:47:03] <Mimiru> also annoyingly I
have to build the mod and stick it in MC to use it can't run from
the IDE anymore.
L727[18:47:04] <ben_mkiv> well, you
probably did run into invisible collision boxes xD
L728[18:47:29] <ben_mkiv> yea, let me ask
again in forge discord how to solve that
L729[18:47:36] <Mimiru> Well, I had an
issue with breaking blocks, not being able to walk through them,
then reloading the world and they were there again
L730[18:48:09] <Mimiru> also, it didn't
seem to open when calling open/toggle, getSize normally returned
0,0 or whatever
L731[18:48:10] <ben_mkiv> yes, the
rolldoor spawns blocks below it
L732[18:48:33] <ben_mkiv> did you try
close()? :>
L733[18:48:43] <Mimiru> I tried both
L734[18:48:55] <ben_mkiv> weird
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L736[18:50:56] <Webchat986> ohi
L737[18:51:05] <Mimiru> %hello
L738[18:51:05] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L739[18:52:27] <Webchat986> :>
L740[18:52:39] <Webchat986> i'm kinda
trying to learn lua rn
L741[18:52:40] <Webchat986> :/
L742[18:52:46] <Mimiru> %pil
L744[18:52:51] <Webchat986> thx
L745[18:52:56] <Mimiru> Np
L746[18:53:25]
<Zef> I'm
the best worst lua programmer here
L747[18:53:32]
<Bob> No
me
L748[18:53:43] <Mimiru> ben_mkiv, also too
many components, and a computer will never work again in that
spot.
L749[18:54:11] <ben_mkiv> im testing rn
outside of dev
L750[18:54:22] <Webchat986> no me
L751[18:54:34] <Webchat986> sonce i kinda
don't know much
L752[18:54:44] <Webchat986> since*
L754[18:54:53]
<Zef> %lua
print(I want an error
L755[18:54:53] <MichiBot> main:1: ')'
expected near 'want'
L756[18:54:53]
<Bob> check
that out
L757[18:54:57]
<Zef>
See
L758[18:55:07]
<Bob> Lua
gives errors pretty clearly
L759[18:55:09]
<Bob>
so
L760[18:55:13] <Webchat986> lol
L761[18:55:21]
<Bob> i also
learned it here fro scratch
L762[18:55:24] <Webchat986> %lua print(I
don't want an error)
L763[18:55:24] <MichiBot> main:1: ')'
expected near 'don'
L764[18:55:26] <Webchat986> woops
L765[18:55:28] <Mimiru> Oh hey ben_mkiv
open/close works now
L766[18:55:29]
<Bob> made
some scripts and a guthub
L767[18:55:33]
<Zef> It has
to be a string lol
L768[18:55:39] <Webchat986> %lua
print("I don't want an error")
L769[18:55:39] <MichiBot> I don't want an
error
L770[18:55:41] <Webchat986> there
L771[18:55:46] <Webchat986> hmm
L772[18:56:07]
<Bob> Good
job
L773[18:56:16] <Webchat986> I don't want
an error = Sure!
L774[18:56:16] <Webchat986> print(I don't
want an error)
L775[18:56:26] <Webchat986> woops
L776[18:56:28]
<Zef>
Lol
L777[18:56:38]
<Zef>
Variables can't have spaces
L778[18:56:40]
<Bob> You
forgot the lua and better you go into OpenComouters and get the lua
intepretter
L779[18:56:43]
<Bob> also
yea
L780[18:56:47]
<Bob> as Zef
said
L781[18:56:55]
<Bob> they
would be different variables
L782[18:56:59] <Webchat986> %lua Noerrors
= Sure!
L783[18:56:59] <Webchat986>
print(Noerrors)
L784[18:56:59] <MichiBot> main:1:
unexpected symbol near '!'
L785[18:57:02] <Webchat986> ono
L786[18:57:19] <Webchat986> %lua Noerrors
= Sure
L787[18:57:19] <Webchat986>
print(Noerrors)
L788[18:57:22] <Mimiru> strings have to be
quoted
L789[18:57:23] <Webchat986> nani
L790[18:57:36] <Webchat986> oki i'm having
problems
L791[18:57:41] <Mimiru> and all commands
that go through lua have to be prefixed with %lua
L792[18:57:46] <Webchat986> oh
L793[18:57:56] <Mimiru> it's the command
that tells the bot to use lua
L794[18:58:05] <Webchat986> %lua Noerrors
= Sure
L795[18:58:06] <MichiBot> nil
L796[18:58:05] <Webchat986> %lua
print(Noerrors)
L797[18:58:09] <Webchat986> frick
L798[18:58:16] <Mimiru> %lua Noerrors =
"Sure"
L799[18:58:18]
<Zef> %lua
noerrors = "sure"; print(noerrors)
L800[18:58:18] <MichiBot> sure
L801[18:58:18] <Webchat986> i need to use
pastebin i guess
L802[18:58:19] <Mimiru> %lua
print(Noerrors)
L803[18:58:20] <MichiBot> Sure
L804[18:58:24] <Webchat986> o
L805[18:58:31] <Mimiru> strings, have to
be quoted.
L806[18:58:35] <Webchat986> yep
L807[18:58:38] <Webchat986> i'm bad at
it
L808[18:58:44] <Mimiru> "this is a
string"
L809[18:58:46] <Webchat986> but i think i
can get better
L810[18:58:52] <Webchat986> like
this
L811[18:59:00] <Webchat986> %lua x +
1
L812[18:59:00] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt
to perform arithmetic on global 'x' (a nil value)
L813[18:59:04] <Webchat986> o
L814[18:59:13] <Webchat986> i think i
accidentally shifted
L815[18:59:19] <Webchat986> %lua x =
1
L816[18:59:27] <Webchat986> %lua y =
2
L817[18:59:36] <Webchat986> %lua z =
3
L818[18:59:48] <Webchat986> print(x * y
*z)
L819[18:59:52] <Webchat986> o woops
L820[19:00:01]
<Zef>
Lol
L821[19:00:01] <Webchat986> %lua print(x *
y * z)
L822[19:00:02] <MichiBot> 6
L823[19:00:04] <Webchat986> yaya
L824[19:00:32] <Webchat986> imma be
back
L825[19:00:35] <Webchat986> next time i
come
L826[19:00:39] <ben_mkiv> ok, to run in
dev its probably easiest to put the mods in the dev
environment
L827[19:00:46] <Webchat986> look for
MikeyNeedy
L828[19:00:47] <ben_mkiv> doesnt eclipse
provide some path for that?
L829[19:00:56] <ben_mkiv> like
project/run/mods
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L831[19:01:23] <Mimiru> That doesn't
resolve the duplicates
L832[19:01:57] <ben_mkiv> so you would
just have to put the libs there?
L833[19:02:08] <ben_mkiv> libVulpes and
mcdoodledafuqcore
L834[19:02:26] <Izaya> hey nerds
L835[19:02:39] <ben_mkiv> micdoodlecore it
is
L836[19:02:50]
<Zef> Who
you callin a nerd
L837[19:02:53]
<Zef> You
nerd
L838[19:03:01] <Izaya> anyone in the US
have Minecraft open and want to tell me whether shadowkat.net:42829
or lain.church has a better ping
L839[19:03:13] <Izaya> (from the server
browser, that is)
L840[19:03:50]
<Bob>
pong
L841[19:04:13] <ben_mkiv> but beside of
that stupid dependencies, tell me if you find glitches/bugs
L842[19:04:27] <Mimiru> Well, is rotation
supposed to be right?
L843[19:04:34] <ben_mkiv> for the
controller?
L844[19:04:39] <Mimiru> cause the door
works great in one direction, but is a bit broken in the
other
L845[19:04:40] <ben_mkiv> or the doors as
well?
L846[19:04:47] <Mimiru> sadly I just
closed MC so I can't tell you which was which
L847[19:05:11] <ben_mkiv> the controller
with the icon on the side is allways placed in one direction, as it
doesnt have facing actually
L848[19:05:37] <ben_mkiv> but thats only a
problem as long as you dont camouflage it xD
L849[19:06:03] <Mimiru> I had the door
blocks in one direction, but the door actually rendered across
it
L850[19:06:21] <ben_mkiv> that shouldnt
happen anymore with the current updates
L851[19:06:33] <Mimiru> I pulled and built
right before I tried this just now
L852[19:06:46] <ben_mkiv> fml, i've spent
my whole life on this...
L853[19:07:07] <ben_mkiv> if it still
happens imma commit... another commit -.-
L854[19:07:12] <Mimiru> lol
L855[19:07:20] <Mimiru> Also, duplicate
libvulpes
L856[19:07:21] <Mimiru> yay
L857[19:07:49] <ben_mkiv> you can try to
change the build.gradle
L858[19:07:55] <Mimiru> so, the issue
currently is that anything is "Missing" in
runtime..
L859[19:08:07] <ben_mkiv> and set
advancedrocketry dependency from compiledeobf to
deobfProvided
L860[19:08:08] <Mimiru> the issue is that
it's trying to use the wrong names.
L861[19:08:13] <ben_mkiv> and the other
one to provided
L862[19:09:45] <ben_mkiv> or both to
deobfProvided
L863[19:12:06] <Mimiru> and again..
java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: isBlockContainer
L864[19:12:09] <Mimiru> bleh
L865[19:12:55] <ben_mkiv> oh
L866[19:13:13] <ben_mkiv> do you still
have the advancedrocketry thing in your libs folder?
L867[19:13:24] <ben_mkiv> then thats whats
causing the duplicated error
L868[19:13:25]
<Z0idburg>
zef the nerd
L869[19:13:37]
<Z0idburg> I
was readin
L870[19:13:38]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L871[19:13:41] <ben_mkiv> because its
there AND pulled from curse
L872[19:13:47] <Mimiru> no, I never had AR
in libs
L876[19:14:39] <ben_mkiv> why cant he put
on curse like any sane person
L877[19:14:54] <Mimiru> or, at least have
a maven for it..
L878[19:15:54]
<Z0idburg> I
think for Trotwood I'm going to use my abuse of namespace
mountpoints to half emulate the way mac osx software dmgs work but
without the suck factor
L879[19:16:59]
<Z0idburg>
and also simulate the way some original XBOX mountpoints work
L880[19:17:10]
<Z0idburg>
something like the way Q:/ works
L881[19:17:15]
<Z0idburg>
on an xbox
L882[19:18:04]
<Z0idburg>
basically, it's a dynamic mountpoint that points to the folder the
current running software is in
L883[19:18:31]
<Z0idburg>
so you can access perhaps your own programs log file via say
q:/log.txt. of course in Trotwood on Oc this will be
different
L884[19:18:39]
<Z0idburg>
What do you think @Wattana Gaming?
L885[19:19:02] *
Izaya gives S3 packagefs
L886[19:19:22]
<Z0idburg>
that's basically what I'm looking into, I think Izaya
L887[19:19:45] <Izaya> (packagefs is the
haiku component that makes the /boot/system pseudo-fs)
L888[19:19:54]
<Z0idburg>
my idea is to allow you to download a package and install it
extracted into its own directory
L889[19:20:18]
<Z0idburg>
and make commands so you can make your own packages easily
L890[19:20:22]
<Z0idburg>
for dev projects
L891[19:20:37]
<Z0idburg>
logs, config files, everything it needs
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<Z0idburg> I
see Izaya
L894[19:20:59] <MikeyNeedy> i back
now
L895[19:22:10] <MikeyNeedy> uh
L896[19:22:22]
<Z0idburg>
?
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L898[19:22:43] <MikeyNeedy> i'm looking at
the wiki
L899[19:23:23] <MikeyNeedy> what's this
corded thing?
L900[19:23:27] <MikeyNeedy> discord?
L901[19:23:41] <Mimiru> Corded, is a
Discord <-> IRC relay
L902[19:23:51] <MikeyNeedy> noice
L903[19:24:02] <Izaya> S3: particularly
notable in that /boot/system is read only and actually consists of
many archives mounted, not unlike many layers of unionfs
L904[19:24:15]
<Z0idburg>
neat
L905[19:31:01]
<Z0idburg>
for now I think I will cheat
L906[19:31:28]
<Z0idburg>
and provide a FUSE like interface as well as the abillity to bind
mountpoints to aliases
L907[19:31:46]
<Z0idburg>
this way I don't have to make my own filesystem to use namespaces
other than file or pseudo systems
L908[19:32:08]
<Z0idburg>
system:// may for example just be a bind mount of
file:///system
L909[19:32:24]
<Z0idburg>
until I get binary filesystem support
L910[19:32:57]
<Z0idburg>
once I get binary filesystem support for twfs things should be
easier because I can use dynamic slices to namespace files
L911[19:33:17]
<Z0idburg>
with quotas instead of physical limits for storage space
L912[19:33:37]
<Z0idburg> I
believe storage space should never be physically bound except
limited by hardware (i.e. size of actual disk)
L913[19:34:16]
<Z0idburg>
instead, files should be categorized instead of using partitions so
that they are more like a virtual namespace that can use as much as
the quota of the binary filesystem lets them
L914[19:34:42]
<Z0idburg>
this quota can be increased at any time, and decreased at any time
given there is free space left in the quota
L915[19:35:10]
<Z0idburg>
Izaya: worth it?
L916[19:35:20] <Izaya> interesting for
sure
L917[19:36:54]
<Z0idburg> I
feel like I could use this filesystem design for practical
purposes
L918[19:37:34] <ben_mkiv> Mimiru, try with
compileOnly in build.gradle for galacticraft and ar, line 99 &
100
L919[19:37:39] <ben_mkiv> that actually
started for me xD
L920[19:41:12] <Mimiru> yeah.. I'm just
giving up at this point.
L921[19:41:26] <Mimiru> I guess I'll just
build and copy to my test instance
L922[19:41:33] <MikeyNeedy> can i get
hints on how to make drones and robots work ?
L923[19:42:41] <ben_mkiv> start with
robots
L924[19:42:59] <ben_mkiv> you know how to
assemble them?
L925[19:43:38] <ben_mkiv> the important
thing is to use a harddrive with installed OS (so use one which you
did setup in a computer before) and to put in a screen + keyboard
when you assemble the robot
L926[19:43:55] <ben_mkiv> then its kinda
like computer
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L930[19:49:36] <MikeyNeedy> okay
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L933[20:04:42]
<Wattana
Gaming> that RDR2 vibe :/
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L936[20:52:06]
<Zef> Every
problem is always the hardwares fault until proven otherwise
L937[20:53:56] <Izaya> I love the
whole
L938[20:54:05] <Izaya> Actiblizz lays off
people after making record profits
L939[20:54:39]
<Zef> Is
that even a surprise?
L940[20:54:46]
<Zef> To
literally anyone?
L941[20:54:51] <Izaya> not really
L942[20:54:55] <Izaya> actiblizz are
scum
L943[20:54:59] <Izaya> it's just
L944[20:55:02] <Izaya> >record
profit
L945[20:55:03]
<Zef>
Capitalism favors scummy actions
L946[20:55:06] <Izaya> >reduce
employees
L947[20:55:15]
<Zef> Less
people to pay
L948[20:55:21] <Izaya> less output
L949[20:55:25]
<Zef> More
money for the big boys at the top
L950[20:55:40] <Izaya> less output
L951[20:56:01]
<Zef> They
hire new people at lower wages
L952[20:56:08]
<Zef> Work
them endlessly to pump out new games
L953[20:56:28]
<Zef> And
then continue the cycle
L954[20:57:03]
<Zef> They
never have to raise wages
L955[20:57:23]
<Zef> If you
ask for a shread of decency you're gone
L956[20:57:40] *
Izaya mumbles something about unionisation
L957[20:58:13]
<Zef> Oh but
it hurts our poor, poor billionaires
L958[20:58:38] <Izaya> this makes me mad
because it's accurate
L959[20:58:50]
<Zef> The
billionaires are the true victims don't you see
L960[20:59:18]
<Zef>
Fucking capitalism and the "self regulating" free
market.
L961[20:59:24] <Izaya> how will the
wealthiest 0.01% of the population ever survive if they had to pay
people to make them money!?!?
L962[21:00:07]
<Zef> Thank
fuck this server seems to lean left
L963[21:00:30]
<Zef> I
can't stand people willing being blind to the attrisositiez
L964[21:00:35]
<Zef>
s*
L965[21:01:31]
<Zef> The
vivecraft discord seems rightist, there's a couple actual racists
in there
L966[21:01:45] <Izaya> also
L967[21:01:48] <Izaya>
s/server/guild/
L968[21:01:49] <MichiBot> <Zef>
Thank fuck this guild seems to lean left
L969[21:02:14]
<Zef> I'm
sorry I didn't use the technical term
L970[21:02:15]
<Zef>
Lol
L971[21:02:21] <Izaya> or really, channel,
because this is the only significant one
L972[21:02:42]
<Zef> Yeah
don't know what the rest of the shits for
L973[21:02:52] <Izaya> I gather there's a
few addon channels
L974[21:03:03]
<Zef> There
are *6* voice channels
L975[21:03:21] <Izaya> Can't say I've ever
actually seen the channel list in the OC guild though
L976[21:03:50]
<Zef> Oh
you're one of the irc exclusives right?
L977[21:04:19] <Izaya> I can't use Discord
if I want to maintain a clear conscience.
L979[21:04:49]
<Zef> Don't
yell for uploading it to discord I've don't got the speed for
anywhere else
L980[21:04:58] <Izaya> same speed to
everywhere, man
L981[21:05:08]
<Zef> The
website
L982[21:05:17]
<Zef> Imgur
takes forever to load
L983[21:05:26] *
Izaya gives zef pomfshare
L984[21:05:52]
<Zef> If
it's a site I've never visited good luck getting it to load
L985[21:06:18]
<Zef> I have
almost a gigabyte in cached assets
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L988[21:08:28]
<Zef> >
download
L989[21:08:41] <Izaya> 391KB
L990[21:08:47] <Izaya> for the apk
L991[21:08:52]
<Zef> Also I
hate Android's share menu
L992[21:09:05]
<Zef> It
takes so long to load on this phone
L993[21:09:36] <Izaya> fine on muh Moto
G3
L994[21:10:03]
<Zef>
Cheapish samsung
L995[21:10:11]
<Zef> J7 sky
pro
L996[21:11:55] <Izaya> double the cores of
mine, same amount of RAM and storage
L997[21:11:57] <Izaya> plenty
powerful
L998[21:12:07] <Izaya> looks like the OS
support is lacking, only LOS build is an unofficial one
L999[21:12:42]
<Zef> I
doubt Samsung's modifications help
L1000[21:12:50] <Izaya> no touchjizz is
pretty terrible
L1001[21:15:51]
<Zef>
It's got a bunch of applications I can't uninstall or even
disabled
L1002[21:16:01]
<Zef>
It's got a bunch of applications I can't uninstall or even disable
[Edited]
L1003[21:16:04] <Izaya> did you get it
from a carrier?
L1004[21:16:33]
<Zef> I
bought it from Walmart, I have a warranty on it so I'd rather not
void it
L1005[21:16:48] <Izaya> ah, gonna wait it
out?
L1006[21:17:25]
<Zef>
Well my parents wanna smash it and buy me a new phone if I want a
new one
L1007[21:22:36] <Izaya> >wasting a
perfectly good computing device
L1008[21:23:54]
<Zef>
When you're barely living yep
L1009[21:24:07]
<Zef> As
long as you can save as much money as possible
L1010[21:24:47] <Izaya> hm
L1011[21:24:54] <Izaya> I wonder how much
a Moto G3 battery is now
L1012[21:25:04] <Izaya> replacing it is
... a pain, but it'd be nice to have the option
L1014[21:26:15] <Izaya> then I guess I'd
need to buy a hair drier
L1015[21:44:17] <CompanionCube>
%tonk
L1016[21:44:18] <MichiBot> Waesucks!
CompanionCube! You beat Mimiru's previous record of 1 hour, 45
minutes and 41 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1017[21:44:19] <MichiBot>
CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 59 minutes and 27 seconds! 1
hour, 13 minutes and 45 seconds gained!
L1018[21:44:34] <Mimiru> 33 seconds off
of 0.003 tonkpoints
L1019[21:44:57] <CompanionCube> it should
round up
L1020[21:46:44] <CompanionCube> on the
topic of discord: y u so slow at gathering my data? :p
L1021[22:15:10] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
halp I'm current on another story now I want more!
L1022[22:15:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1023[22:26:37] <AmandaC> Zef you uh...
Probably shouldn't announce intention to commit insurance fraud (a
felony I'm some states) in an open, publicly logged, channel
L1024[22:27:31] <AmandaC> I mean, it'll
probably never come to their attention, but why risk it?
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L1027[22:29:27]
<Zef>
Good point didn't even think about that
L1028[22:29:43]
<Zef> Oh
well I've done worse on discord
L1029[22:29:53] <AmandaC> I'm of the
belief that thought I'd not do anything illegal, it's better to
keep as much potential legal ammo hidden as possible
L1030[22:31:02] <AmandaC> Just in case
since lawyer gets a stick up their ass about me
L1031[22:31:26] <AmandaC>
S/since/some/
L1032[22:31:35]
<Zef>
Yeah
L1033[22:31:55]
<Zef> I
mean I have no need to do that anyways
L1034[22:32:03]
<Zef>
I'm fine with my phone
L1035[22:32:05] <Mimiru> for $99.99 per
message I can remove them if you'd like
L1036[22:32:17]
<Zef>
And I think the warranty ends soon anyways
L1037[22:33:49] <AmandaC> %remindme 8h
add the story about the genderbent assassin reincarnater goddess to
the notification list
L1038[22:33:51] <MichiBot> I'll remind
you about "add the story about the genderbent assassin
reincarnater goddess to the notification list" at 02/13/2019
06:33:50 AM
L1039[22:34:12] <AmandaC> Right, night
nerds
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