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L1[00:21:26] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L2[00:21:26] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! CompanionCube! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L3[00:21:27] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 1 hour, 58 minutes and 25 seconds! 1 hour, 58 minutes and 25 seconds gained!
L4[00:23:55] <Mimiru> Oh hai @"Forecaster" I fixed it.. I think :P
L5[00:24:06] <Mimiru> %addcommand
L6[00:24:07] <MichiBot> An error occurred while processing this command
L7[00:24:16] <Mimiru> %addcommand tonkleaders https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L8[00:24:17] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command Added
L9[00:27:52] <CompanionCube> oh wow i'm #1
L10[00:28:02] <CompanionCube> i thought someone would be higher
L11[00:29:52] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L12[00:29:52] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.069
L13[00:29:58] <CompanionCube> :>
L14[00:31:02] <CompanionCube> losing the extra point was worth it
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L17[01:49:49] <Forecaster> %tonk
L18[01:49:50] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L19[01:49:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 19 minutes and 57 seconds! 1 hour, 19 minutes and 57 seconds gained!
L20[02:10:44] <Izaya> Mimiru: the page is actually (relatively) okay
L21[02:10:55] <Izaya> it's still fucking massive, but it's "only" 3.5MB
L22[03:18:27] <Lizzian> hmm, i think my pc is a lot more responsive when the safeguarding software stuff is not running (cause i deleted it)
L23[03:49:23] <Izaya> S3, Skye: fun PsychOS idea:
L24[03:49:31] <Izaya> so I want to re-work the I/O system to ... work better
L25[03:49:35] <Izaya> because currently it's a mess
L26[03:49:56] <Izaya> basically the idea is: have a table containing all I/O "sinks"
L27[03:50:37] <Izaya> or rather, each "sink" is a .read and .write function for a given destination
L28[03:50:41] <Izaya> ie filesystems, virtual terminals, etc
L29[03:50:47] <Skye> ?
L30[03:51:09] <Izaya> so fileobject:read(n) would:
L31[03:51:41] <Izaya> take the fileobject.sink value, and use that to do sinks[fileobject.sink].read(n)
L32[03:53:15] <Izaya> this means you could have a tty sink that reads/writes real terminals, and a net sink that handles minitel sockets
L33[03:53:19] <Izaya> and they would all work basically the same
L34[03:54:19] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/lDUn08QFhNs
L35[03:54:19] <Forecaster> neat
L36[03:54:20] <MichiBot> Ostranauts Teaser | length: 51s | Likes: 162 Dislikes: 1 Views: 2,830 | by dcfedor | Published On 13/2/2019
L37[03:54:51] <13 Grimores> Hmm
L38[03:56:17] <Izaya> Skye: does that make sense
L39[04:06:03] <Lizzy> aha! just found the stupid-ass setting in FF that restores the normal ctrl+tab functionality
L40[04:11:30] <Forecaster> they changed it?
L41[04:16:43] <Lizzy> yeah, in one of the recent updates it changed to switch through the most recently active tab
L42[04:19:00] <Wattana Gaming> a e c e a f c f c g c d b g
L43[04:19:00] <Wattana Gaming> anyone know this?
L44[04:19:27] <Izaya> I was gonna say the start of a SMB message but I think that's CACACACA or something
L45[04:29:04] <Forecaster> %tonk
L46[04:29:05] <MichiBot> Sard! Forecaster! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1 hour, 19 minutes and 57 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L47[04:29:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 39 minutes and 14 seconds! 1 hour, 19 minutes and 17 seconds gained!
L48[04:35:58] <Lizzian> :blobcatthinking: http://tinyurl.com/y598o7wc
L49[04:37:47] <Lizzy> if only i had the money for that kind of system
L50[04:40:28] <Wattana Gaming> But **can it run Crysis?**
L51[04:41:08] <Forecaster> can it run minecraft with a thousand mods
L52[04:42:56] <Izaya> >Crysis
L53[04:42:59] <Izaya> >64MB VRAM
L54[04:43:01] <Izaya> good luck
L55[04:43:12] <Izaya> It'd make a damn nice minecraft *server* though
L56[04:43:54] <Lizzy> I mean, i'd use it for a few minecraft servers :P
L57[04:43:58] <Wattana Gaming> have online mode off pls?
L58[04:44:13] <Wattana Gaming> have online mode off pls?(to Izaya) [Edited]
L59[04:45:18] <Izaya> I mean, I'm not the one looking at it
L60[04:45:31] * Izaya has an E3 1231v3 + 16GB RAM box for a server
L61[04:45:32] <Lizzy> also for about £10k more the ram can be as large as 1TB
L62[04:47:57] <Izaya> CPU~Quad core Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~3685/3800 MHz Kernel~4.9.0-7-amd64 x86_64 Up~127 days Mem~7796.0/15855.4MB HDD~10128.0GB(52.8% used) Procs~433 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.5
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L65[04:55:03] <Lizzy> my server has a Xeon E5-1650v4 (though it's only advertised as a v3) but I kinda need more cores for what i want to run on it
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L68[05:04:31] <Skye> Who needs servers!
L69[05:04:37] <Skye> Just make a botnet
L70[05:06:12] <Izaya> Skye: t. startups
L71[05:16:55] <Zef> %tonk
L72[05:16:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Zef, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 2 hours, 39 minutes and 14 seconds this time.
L73[05:16:57] <MichiBot> 47 minutes and 51 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 51 minutes and 23 seconds!
L74[05:17:10] <Skye> Since I can't afford a server, maybe I should make a botnet. Or maybe I should make something totally peer to peer. :p
L75[05:17:13] <Zef> Maybe I should've looked
L76[05:17:21] <Skye> B l o c k c h a I n
L77[05:17:50] <Zef> I once thought of getting a couple intel nooks or whatever to host stuff with
L78[05:17:58] <Zef> But they're overpriced af
L79[05:19:05] <Lizzy> NUCs
L80[05:20:23] <Zef> Hey I was close
L81[05:31:50] <Izaya> huh
L82[05:32:02] <Izaya> OC isn't taking power from IE connectors?
L83[05:32:19] <Lizzy> it should do? got a screenshot of your setup?
L84[05:33:41] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/rwqpfe.png
L85[05:33:53] <Izaya> works if I hook up a power converter
L86[05:35:11] <Lizzian> what about if you put it on the case itself?
L87[05:35:57] <Izaya> no dice
L88[05:36:18] <Izaya> hm, I wonder if I'm using the latest
L89[05:36:53] <Izaya> yup, latest OC, latest IE
L90[05:39:09] <Skye> Izaya: is this the server in thinking of?
L91[05:39:14] <Izaya> no
L92[05:39:20] <Izaya> it's my server
L93[05:39:22] <Skye> Oh
L94[05:42:48] <Izaya> EnderIO doesn't supply power either
L95[05:43:02] <Izaya> including to the case
L96[05:43:13] <Izaya> OC 1.7.4.153
L97[05:44:29] <Izaya> payonel: send help
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L100[05:48:28] <Izaya> I wonder...
L101[05:48:43] * Izaya disables IE/OC compat in the IE config file
L102[05:50:37] <Izaya> no dice either
L103[05:50:42] <Izaya> cool
L104[05:53:07] <Forecaster> woo
L105[05:55:31] <Izaya> Power distributor it is, I guess.
L106[05:56:18] <Forecaster> that is one of it's few jobs :P
L107[05:56:31] <Forecaster> %potion
L108[05:56:31] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a sweet lime potion
L109[05:56:34] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L110[05:56:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster's hair turns to the color of citrus.
L111[05:56:40] <Forecaster> ohmy
L112[05:59:19] * Lizzy thinks it is lunch time
L113[06:10:28] <Vexatos> Izaya, well last time I checked a computer screen had no reason to accept power from anything
L114[06:10:35] <Izaya> well a case does so
L115[06:10:41] <Vexatos> you connected the scren
L116[06:10:43] <Vexatos> screen*
L117[06:10:45] <Izaya> and the case
L118[06:10:49] <Izaya> no dice either way
L119[06:10:53] <Vexatos> then the screenshot is wrong
L120[06:11:05] <Izaya> yes because I connected it to the case afterwards
L121[06:11:15] <Izaya> during testing
L122[06:11:19] <Izaya> as previously shown in the logs
L123[06:11:27] <Vexatos> and uh
L124[06:11:38] <Vexatos> cases and power converters are exactly identical in terms of power accepting
L125[06:11:47] <Vexatos> like they use the same lines of code for it
L126[06:12:08] <Izaya> well the converter works and the case doesn't
L127[06:12:28] <Vexatos> did you connect from the front D:
L128[06:12:29] <Zef> A power converter is just a cheaper case
L129[06:12:37] <Izaya> ...
L130[06:12:41] <Izaya> does that make a difference
L131[06:12:48] <Vexatos> I mean the front is where the ventilation is
L132[06:12:57] <Izaya> in hindsight
L133[06:12:59] <Izaya> this makes a lot of sense
L134[06:13:17] <Vexatos> I, too, enjoy running my power cables out of the disk drive slot
L135[06:14:28] <Lizzian> Lol
L136[06:14:36] <Forecaster> it's fine, you just have to drill some new holes
L137[06:14:40] <Zef> If you over clock your disk drive you can spin cds faster
L138[06:14:59] <Izaya> Vexatos: >not running your cables out the front panel
L139[06:15:01] <Vexatos> and burn the disc
L140[06:15:12] <Vexatos> Izaya, I mean my headphones do
L141[06:15:47] <Zef> The disk is a necessary casualty
L142[06:16:00] <Izaya> okay it connects fine to the case
L143[06:16:13] <Izaya> hrm
L144[06:16:20] <Izaya> okay guess the cabling will be ... more interesting
L145[06:16:31] <Vexatos> "just rotate the case hweh"
L146[06:16:40] <Izaya> then where will the keyboard go
L147[06:16:49] <Vexatos> as long as it is near the screen :P
L148[06:17:03] <Izaya> well
L149[06:17:18] <Vexatos> the keyboard doesn't have to be anywhere near the case
L150[06:17:38] <Izaya> next to the screen I have a screen, on top of the screen I have a telecom connector, in front of the screen I have a cable, and on the remaining two relevant sides I have wall
L151[06:17:50] <Izaya> I might just get set up for EnderIO so I can run these cables behind
L152[06:19:18] <Vexatos> EnderIO has network conduits you know :3
L153[06:19:31] <Izaya> yeah but then I need to stick a switch on every machine
L154[06:19:37] <Vexatos> uh no
L155[06:19:41] <Izaya> or on every cluster of machines, I guess
L156[06:19:44] <Vexatos> network conduits are identical to OC cables
L157[06:19:50] <Izaya> yup
L158[06:20:02] <Izaya> which means if I hook two computers up with them they'll see each other's screens
L159[06:20:08] <Vexatos> and you can just use the relay as uh the PoE
L160[06:20:29] * Izaya prefers to avoid hooking up switches to switches
L161[06:20:47] <Forecaster> I heard you liek switches
L162[06:21:16] <Vexatos> just use server racks :^)
L163[06:21:25] <Vexatos> THROW DIAMONDS AT CRAFTING GRID
L164[06:21:27] <Vexatos> WIN GAME
L165[06:22:25] <Izaya> bug report: I filled the crafting grid with 9*64 diamond blocks and did not get a server
L166[06:23:00] <Vexatos> I am pretty sure the rack actually doesn't require many of those
L167[06:23:06] <Vexatos> it uses a lot of iron and gold though
L168[06:23:13] <Vexatos> the server boards in particular
L169[06:23:37] <Vexatos> just install SSDs for when you're done :^)
L170[06:24:14] <Vexatos> I should make it so that SSDs trigger when they receive network messages, so you have an incentive to route your networking correctly :U
L171[06:24:16] <Izaya> I use racks a bit
L172[06:24:29] <Izaya> it's either that or dodgy stuff with microcontrollers for routing
L173[06:24:39] <Vexatos> I mean MCUs are kinda meant for routing
L174[06:25:54] <Izaya> hey wait a minute
L175[06:26:08] <Izaya> do you still receive messages when you close a side?
L176[06:26:27] <Vexatos> you mean with a net splitter?
L177[06:26:34] <Vexatos> or a rack
L178[06:27:20] <Izaya> microcontroller
L179[06:27:23] <Vexatos> oh
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L182[07:05:10] <Forecaster> ohno he's back
L183[07:05:48] <Izaya> ISP router is trash but WRT54GL isn't really any better, news at 11
L184[07:07:07] <Forecaster> quick, hide the potions!
L185[07:07:23] <MGR> %potion
L186[07:07:23] <MichiBot> MGR: You get a prickly rock potion
L187[07:07:27] <MGR> %drink ^
L188[07:07:28] <MichiBot> MGR's favourite hat is suddenly on fire.
L189[07:07:39] <MGR> Joke's on you, I don't HAVE a favorite hat
L190[07:07:52] <Forecaster> in an alternate universe you do
L191[07:07:56] <Forecaster> and it is now on fire
L192[07:08:02] <MGR> Darn
L193[07:08:41] <Forecaster> although due to an incompatibility issue between universes that entire universe is now on fire
L194[07:08:48] <MGR> Good
L195[07:08:56] <Izaya> How long was I out?
L196[07:09:12] <Forecaster> like 15 minutes
L197[07:09:29] <Izaya> huh
L198[07:09:31] <Wattana Gaming> So I am working on a true MIDI version of the song "Promise" from SH2 using LMMS. This is what I have done so far http://tinyurl.com/y57zhrf8
L199[07:09:33] <Izaya> could've been worse I guess
L200[07:10:12] <Izaya> one of these days I'm gonna snap and go full retard and buy a used enterprise router
L201[07:10:53] <Vexatos> I mean
L202[07:11:03] <Vexatos> those aren't that expensive
L203[07:11:15] <Izaya> yeah but you don't get security patches if you don't have a real license
L204[07:11:17] <Vexatos> You can probably find some in the trash if you look hard enough
L205[07:11:26] <Vexatos> yea that is the bigger problem :P
L206[07:11:42] <Izaya> plus the part where most manufacturers are known to include backdoors for various agencies
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L208[07:12:40] <Forecaster> it's very short
L209[07:14:12] <Izaya> Having out of date firmware is a lot less of a problem on a used switch that isn't exposed to the internet than an internet-facing router x_x
L210[07:14:35] <Izaya> ... Speaking of, anyone able to hook me up with the latest firmware of a Catalyst 3750G-24TS?
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L213[07:21:31] <Lizzy> Izaya: what firmware version do you have?
L214[07:22:09] <Izaya> Cisco IOS Software, C3750 Software (C3750-IPBASEK9-M), Version 12.2(53)SE1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
L215[07:23:30] <Lizzy> https://software.cisco.com/download/home/278169764/type/280805680/release/12.2.55-SE12?i=!pp you might find something on here
L216[07:25:14] <Z0idburg> beatspiderman on ps4 last night
L217[07:25:49] <Z0idburg> Iaaya: I don't care so much for cisco
L218[07:26:32] <Z0idburg> They're definitely better than raisecomm
L219[07:26:53] <Izaya> I'm trained for working with Cisco stuff is all
L220[07:27:04] <Z0idburg> These days I've been playing more with Mikrotik and ADTrans
L221[07:27:28] <Lizzy> I'm more used to HP but that's just because we have that here at work
L222[07:27:42] <Z0idburg> Mikrotik is fantastic because they have small business consumer and enterprise industry equipment
L223[07:27:49] <Z0idburg> and all of it is mostly the same
L224[07:29:51] <Z0idburg> for small business, I'm growing to like the things I'm hearing about Ubiquity
L225[07:30:04] <Z0idburg> though the mikrotiks seem to handle some things better
L226[07:30:13] <Z0idburg> I would think that Lizzy would be into those
L227[07:30:28] <Z0idburg> because they're Linux based cisco like interfaces I think
L228[07:31:04] <Lizzy> interesting
L229[07:31:14] <Izaya> I hear a bit about ubiquity
L230[07:31:19] <Izaya> Their APs definitely seem nice
L231[07:31:25] <Izaya> given you can stick OpenWRT on them
L232[07:31:37] <Z0idburg> lol
L233[07:31:50] <Z0idburg> RouterOS is nice
L234[07:32:01] <Lizzy> though right now i don't have much interest for expensive home networking stuff cause my home network isn't that complicated and i don't really have a need for them
L235[07:32:13] <Z0idburg> I'm about to try mikrotik dude for the first time in a minute
L236[07:35:33] <Z0idburg> gotta automate the firmware upgrades of my mikrotiks
L237[07:36:11] <Z0idburg> I just have two
L238[07:36:11] <Z0idburg> one in the basement as a core router and one on my second floor behind the wall as myt wifi AP
L239[07:36:28] <Z0idburg> lol it just rebooted I heard the beep coming from downstairs
L240[07:38:25] <Z0idburg> the upstairs mikrotik also handles all second floor ethernet ports
L241[07:39:17] <Z0idburg> I have an unmanaged switch up there but am not using it atm
L242[07:39:53] <Z0idburg> imp you should have some sort of switch on every floor of your building
L243[07:40:11] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/lzjapp.png
L244[07:40:24] <Z0idburg> that way when you snake wiring you dont have to pull all of them from the basement
L245[07:44:39] <Izaya> I really need to write a better way to pick which GPU gets which screen
L246[07:48:08] <ben_mkiv> no
L247[07:48:16] <ben_mkiv> you need a better way to sort out which screen is which
L248[07:48:34] <ben_mkiv> by calibrating them, write a script that shows a grid on each screen, to select the index
L249[07:57:54] <Izaya> oh, I forgot that OpenOS isn't so great with a single T1.5 stick of RAM
L250[07:58:19] <MGR> Really?
L251[07:58:25] <MGR> I thought it worked ok the last time I used it
L252[07:58:45] <Izaya> It *works* but you'll run out of memory editing larger files
L253[07:59:39] <MGR> Hmmm
L254[07:59:45] * Lizzy sighs
L255[07:59:47] <MGR> I haven't worked with any big files in a while, so idk
L256[07:59:53] <Lizzy> some fucker has set the fire alarm off
L257[07:59:58] <MGR> %ohno
L258[07:59:58] <MichiBot> MGR: ohno
L259[08:00:18] <Izaya> I wanna use this machine to serve files over my LAN so I'm gonna upgrade it to 512k just in case
L260[08:00:27] <Skye> Lizzy: maybe you should smite them and set them on fire
L261[08:00:35] <Izaya> if I removed the screen it'd probably do better but then I don't get to watch any logs
L262[08:01:30] <Izaya> speaking of watching logs, do we have watch(1) in OpenOS?
L263[08:02:26] <Z0idburg> HA
L264[08:02:35] <Z0idburg> I doubt it but that'd be great
L265[08:02:48] <Izaya> Cause I mean we have syslog
L266[08:02:58] <Izaya> I might as well watch the logs for the whole LAN from one machine
L267[08:03:00] <Z0idburg> tbh dmesg is written poorly you should be able to use tail and watch with it to do the same thing
L268[08:05:22] <Skye> https://github.com/WoA-project/WoA-Installer/blob/master/Docs/Raspberry.md
L269[08:06:08] <Lizzian> Ah, unannounced fire drill. At least it wasnt someone vaping into a detector again
L270[08:06:43] <Z0idburg> ok ill bb
L271[08:06:50] <Z0idburg> I need to shave because I look like a dinosaur
L272[08:16:49] <Forecaster> you have feathers?
L273[08:23:14] <Izaya> S3: gotta grab the latest pack
L274[08:23:16] <Z0idburg> oh new pack
L275[08:23:20] <Z0idburg> haha
L276[08:23:26] <Z0idburg> lets see
L277[08:23:37] <Izaya> I should probably add the alt server to the servers.dat
L278[08:25:15] <Z0idburg> LOL
L279[08:25:31] <Z0idburg> pack downloaded once again 153 MB before I could move the mouse to the download arrow in firefox
L280[08:25:44] <Z0idburg> I wanted to see it download but its too fast
L281[08:25:54] <Izaya> Heeey that VM is in Canada right?
L282[08:26:00] <Z0idburg> that or NY
L283[08:26:08] <Z0idburg> same difference as far as the network trunk goes
L284[08:26:16] <Izaya> try out lain.church instead of shadowkat.net for the server address
L285[08:26:35] <Z0idburg> 403 forbidden
L286[08:26:43] <Izaya> no I mean in Minecraft
L287[08:26:49] <Z0idburg> oh
L288[08:26:57] <Izaya> ping will be worse but connection should be better
L289[08:27:21] <Z0idburg> huh. I haven't had any problems but I should try it later. I don't have enough time to boot Minecraft OS before work again
L290[08:27:44] <Izaya> yeah it seemed fine but I want to see if it still works with 1.12
L291[08:28:12] <Izaya> when I was on ADSL2+ I basically had to do the compressed SSH tunnel trick to get 1.7.10 to be playable from outside
L292[08:29:01] <Izaya> but that was because I had 0.2Mbps up, not 20Mbps up
L293[08:29:25] <Z0idburg> I think I remember that
L294[08:29:28] <Z0idburg> rubber banding yay
L295[08:29:42] <Izaya> :D
L296[08:30:03] <Z0idburg> rubber banding is only annoying in MC
L297[08:30:08] <Z0idburg> in Space Engineers it';s hilarious
L298[08:31:37] <Z0idburg> gotta walk down and get my car, hope they dint tow it XD
L299[08:31:49] <Z0idburg> I got my primary car stuck in my own driveway at trhe front
L300[08:32:07] * Lizzy wants to play so many things but has little time
L301[08:32:11] <Z0idburg> so I can't get my second car in my driveway an my primary is having a really bad issue atm and should not be driven in fear the engine may fall apart
L302[08:32:29] <Z0idburg> play the spoons!
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L304[08:35:48] <Forecaster> %tonk
L305[08:35:48] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forecaster! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 39 minutes and 14 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L306[08:35:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds! 39 minutes and 38 seconds gained!
L307[08:37:08] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/a8447cdb-2cdd-4821-87bb-1e557faba9c4/2019-02-15_01.22.24.png
L308[08:39:52] <Izaya> Bad news:
L309[08:40:11] <Izaya> The furnace and SAG mill use more power than my windmill generates.
L310[08:40:16] <Izaya> Good news: I have fucktonnes of battery.
L311[08:48:47] <Izaya> yay we're power-positive again
L312[08:59:29] <Izaya> Oh. Only power-positive when it rains.
L313[09:07:54] <MalkContent> can robots fish?
L314[09:08:07] <MalkContent> just asking in case anyone knows this from the top of their head
L315[09:08:13] <Temia> Ask Yoko Taro.
L316[09:08:18] <MGR> That's actually a really good question
L317[09:08:20] <Lizzy> ok, perhaps moving something weighing about 60kg with a pallet fork on my own was not the best idea
L318[09:08:32] <MGR> In theory they can right click the fishing rod, but will that fish properly?
L319[09:08:43] <MGR> They can't tell when fish bite, so it'd have to be a timer
L320[09:08:56] <Temia> I'm pretty sure Yoko Taro has proven robots can fish
L321[09:09:02] <Temia> They just can't eat what they catch.
L322[09:10:21] <Mimiru> Izaya, what page is 3.5MB?
L323[09:11:15] <Izaya> Mimiru: the one you were joking about it thinking web 1.0 is original
L324[09:11:36] <Lizzy> okay, i really regret moving that load all by myself, think i've done my back in
L325[09:14:20] * AmandaC carefully cuddles up against Lizzy, purrs softly to help the healing process
L326[09:14:37] <Mimiru> ooh
L327[09:14:48] * Lizzy meows thankyou at AmandaC and tries to stay still
L328[09:15:46] <Lizzy> Vexatos: question about OPPM again: Is it possible for me to add a 'non-master' branch of a git repo as a local source or would i just be better off merging my dev branch into the master branch and letting oppm do it's normal thing?
L329[09:16:03] <Vexatos> well
L330[09:16:24] <Vexatos> oh you mean a programs.cfg on a different branch?
L331[09:16:33] <Vexatos> because software itself can be on other branches just fine
L332[09:16:49] <Lizzy> yeah, programs.cfg on a different branch
L333[09:17:54] <Vexatos> not right now, no
L334[09:18:07] <Lizzy> once i release stuff properly i'll just have the programs.cfg in master and have "-git" versions that point to the dev branch but i want to possibly avoid pushing to master whilst stuff is still in development
L335[09:18:08] <Lizzy> ok
L336[09:18:58] <Vexatos> I mean that's why hidden=true exists :P
L337[09:20:42] <Lizzy> yeah i know. but i already partially modified the programs.cfg on my dev branch so i'm probably going to have to find some way to cherry-pick merge stuff over to the master branch so i can enable the dev stuff
L338[09:20:57] <Lizzy> thanks for your help though, i'll see what i can sort out
L339[09:21:06] <Vexatos> I mean as I said
L340[09:21:13] <Vexatos> the software itself can be on a dev branch just fine
L341[09:21:53] <Lizzy> yeah
L342[09:21:59] <Lizzy> i get what you mean
L343[09:22:13] <Lizzy> oh
L344[09:22:34] <Lizzy> the programs.cfg on my OPPM's repo's master branch is actually just an empty table
L345[09:22:49] <Lizzy> ok, merging shouldn't be too hard then
L346[09:23:15] <Lizzy> i've also only edited it once since the last sync with master... lets go look up how to do a merge like this
L347[09:23:57] <MalkContent> huh. can't see creatrix in jei
L348[09:23:58] <MalkContent> strange
L349[09:23:59] <Lizzy> though i can't actually do it till i get home because when using https git (cant access ssh at work) I can't get write access to any OpenPrograms stuff
L350[09:24:19] <MalkContent> huh. can't see creatix in jei [Edited]
L351[09:26:08] <Lizzian> This is the error that GitKraken gives me when i try to push to the OpenPrograms github org, not sure if that's something that can be worked around http://tinyurl.com/y4kpsmxu
L352[09:27:21] <Lizzy> might be the way i have it set up though
L353[09:27:24] <Forecaster> bribe someone to get access
L354[09:27:44] <Lizzy> eh, i don't need it. i just push to a fork i have then sync that when i get home
L355[09:35:00] <ben_mkiv> someone wanna write a good multiblock check for screens? -.-
L356[09:35:07] <ben_mkiv> in java...
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L358[09:58:18] <MalkContent> can i copy text from a screen somehow?
L359[09:58:43] <ben_mkiv> no
L360[09:58:44] <Bob> you can copy parts of the screen with a GPU but it copies everything
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L362[09:58:53] <ben_mkiv> what do you want to copy?
L363[09:58:58] <Bob> and as ben saids i dont think so either
L364[09:59:09] <Inari> No tells!
L365[09:59:17] <Lizzy> %tell Inari you sure?
L366[09:59:18] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L367[09:59:22] <Inari> :p
L368[10:00:33] <Inari> Temia: So I bet you've heard?
L369[10:00:49] <Temia> You bet I've heard
L370[10:00:50] <MalkContent> using a russian robot program that's supposedly able to fish
L371[10:00:53] <Temia> RUNE FACTORY IS ALIVE \o/
L372[10:00:56] <Inari> It is \o/
L373[10:01:03] <MalkContent> and i wanna copy the debug messages it's giving me :D
L374[10:01:08] * Temia jumps and hugs Inari excitedly :>
L375[10:01:12] <Bob> @MalkContent i speak russian give ill translate
L376[10:01:12] <Inari> D:
L377[10:01:12] <MalkContent> cause typing kyrillic is a pita
L378[10:01:16] <Temia> I'M SMOOCHING ALL THE CUTE MONSTERBOYS
L379[10:01:19] * Inari tooples over
L380[10:01:28] <Bob> i do have a cyrillic keyboard but i type as shit on it
L381[10:01:37] <Bob> slowly and painfully
L382[10:01:37] <Temia> Or monstergirls if they'll let me.
L383[10:01:40] <Inari> Totally getting Rf4 remake too
L384[10:01:42] <Bob> so used to qwerty
L385[10:01:43] <MalkContent> yea, that's where the copying part comes in ?
L386[10:01:53] <Temia> Yeah, RF4 Special is on my "must buy" list whenever I get that Switch
L387[10:02:36] <Bob> /oc_renderWirelessNetwork Makes Journeymap go nutz
L388[10:02:40] <Bob> takes half screen
L389[10:02:43] <Kodos> Ahh shit, Rune Factory on Switch? Now my wife will definitely want one
L390[10:02:46] <Lizzy> Temia: i wouldn't say no :P
L391[10:02:52] <MalkContent> nyet signala at datshika
L392[10:02:52] <MalkContent> is my crappy transkript
L393[10:03:03] <Bob> no signal form detector
L394[10:03:12] <MalkContent> thanks :)
L395[10:03:15] <Bob> np
L396[10:03:37] <MalkContent> at least i can read it phonetically, woo
L397[10:03:44] <Inari> Lizzy: L-lewd
L398[10:03:55] * Lizzy giggles
L399[10:04:04] <Bob> thats already a good start ?
L400[10:04:37] <MalkContent> day-z and 2 semesters of russian on the side
L401[10:04:37] <MalkContent> finally paying off
L402[10:05:03] <Bob> i can help on VC but writing i suck aswell ?
L403[10:05:16] <Bob> where i live there are no official russian courses ,i mean i would need to find a private school
L404[10:05:36] <Bob> i dont have much options
L405[10:07:56] <MalkContent> ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
L406[10:08:27] <MalkContent> anyways, doesn't seem that this program is working. the no signal is probably because it doesn't even manage to throw the line
L407[10:08:32] <MalkContent> (of the fishing rod)
L408[10:08:44] <MalkContent> and most i can get out of it is it making the throwing sound
L409[10:08:45] <Bob> maybe edit the program or remake
L410[10:08:55] <MalkContent> nah, i just think robots can't fish
L411[10:10:49] <Lizzy> Vexatos: when specifying dependencies with the programs.cfg, if i put an empty string in for the path where does it decide to put it?
L412[10:11:02] <Lizzy> (it being the dependency)
L413[10:11:12] <Vexatos> probably in some alternate reality
L414[10:11:26] <Lizzy> hmm
L415[10:11:33] <Vexatos> why would you ever
L416[10:12:27] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I'd assume it's the same as entering "/"
L417[10:12:33] <Vexatos> i.e. the default install dir of /usr
L418[10:12:34] <Lizzy> ok
L419[10:12:42] <Vexatos> but uh
L420[10:12:44] <Vexatos> just don't
L421[10:13:15] <Lizzy> hm, probably a better way to put my question: Is there any way to depend on another package but have it get installed in it's own-defined location?
L422[10:13:38] <Vexatos> if the dependency is another package, sure
L423[10:13:49] <Lizzy> ok cool
L424[10:14:27] * Lizzy slaps self, because she said ok before the question was fully answered
L425[10:14:55] <Skye> Mew
L426[10:15:24] <Skye> I saw soneone mention monster girls/boys
L427[10:15:54] <MalkContent> or maybe rather they can't fish anymore
L428[10:15:55] <MalkContent> idk
L429[10:16:03] <MalkContent> seemed to be working for this russian dude at one point
L430[10:20:30] <Bob> Version of OC ?
L431[10:20:31] <Bob> and any addons
L432[10:21:05] <Bob> Trying to fill all the 64 component slots on a maxed out Tier 3 Server
L433[10:21:20] <Bob> we need Co Proccesors
L434[10:21:26] <Lizzy> Vexatos: Aha! science hath been done. specifying "/" for the dependency folder lets it install to it's own place (or at least it does with my limited testing)
L435[10:21:26] <Bob> and dedicate threads to them :GWpaboaWeSmart:
L436[10:22:37] <Vexatos> Lizzy, of course it does
L437[10:22:57] <Vexatos> next time read the docs
L438[10:23:08] * Lizzy sighs
L439[10:23:19] <Vexatos> it's explained there >_<
L440[10:24:14] <Lizzy> where are the docs for oppm?
L441[10:25:04] <Lizzy> nvm
L442[10:25:06] <Lizzy> found them
L443[10:27:16] <MalkContent> i'm on current, no info on the russian dudes thing
L444[10:27:17] <MalkContent> but the code is from 2016 so...
L445[10:27:49] <MalkContent> https://pastebin.com/RPLWqKTZ
L446[10:29:18] <Bob> http://computercraft.ru/uploads/monthly_01_2016/post-13296-0-73005000-1453315450.png heres the setup
L447[10:29:21] <Bob> the guy is actually a genius
L448[10:29:26] <Bob> when it waits it activate redstone
L449[10:29:29] <Bob> and triggers the bot
L450[10:29:33] <Bob> thats neat
L451[10:30:26] <Bob> the script seems okay
L452[10:30:56] <Bob> and should work
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L455[10:46:26] <MalkContent> i mean, i see how that works
L456[10:46:27] <MalkContent> in fact, that's how i'd have built it
L457[10:46:29] <Zef> Is that setup for a mob farm?
L458[10:46:47] <MalkContent> i mean, i see how that is supposed to work
L459[10:46:47] <MalkContent> in fact, that's how i'd have built it [Edited]
L460[10:47:03] <MalkContent> doesn't work though
L461[10:47:13] <MalkContent> doesn't cast the line
L462[10:47:27] <MalkContent> and i can't manage to do that either
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L464[10:56:32] <Lizzy> there, think i got my programs.cfg file to a state that wont break when used. will transfer it to my openprograms repo when i get home
L465[10:56:37] <Lizzy> speaking of which, home time
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L467[11:09:03] <MalkContent> a well. automated fishing would be op anyways i guess :/
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L469[11:23:32] <Lizzy> yay, am home
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L471[11:27:27] <Forecaster> woo
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L474[11:38:18] <Bob> Do functinos in a while loop when calling break stop the loop or stop themselves ?
L475[11:38:42] <Inari> I'm not even sure you can use break in them :P
L476[11:38:50] <Bob> o lawd
L477[11:38:59] <Lizzy> using the break keyword will break out of the loop
L478[11:38:59] <MGR> I don't know if you can use break outside of a loop ?
L479[11:39:04] <MGR> ^
L480[11:39:17] <Bob> i will try
L481[11:41:38] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/y4tgr5sk
L482[11:41:40] <Bob> looks like i cant
L483[11:42:25] <Bob> should i break a little if thing at the end of my loop
L484[11:42:38] <Bob> its trash but it works i guess ?
L485[11:44:15] <Bob> i have functions in tables that call other tables and stuff
L486[11:44:19] <Bob> really messy at this point
L487[11:44:24] <Bob> why are we here
L488[11:44:26] <Bob> just to suffer
L489[11:45:35] <MGR> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/495550664605302794/537263686990168104/SmartSelect_20190121-211314_YouTube.gif
L490[11:45:46] <MGR> Only pain
L491[11:46:13] <Bob> rare pictures of lua assert
L492[11:46:16] <Forecaster> I'm here for cake
L493[11:46:30] <Forecaster> and also
L494[11:46:31] <Forecaster> %tonk
L495[11:46:32] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds this time.
L496[11:46:33] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 10 minutes and 43 seconds were wasted! Missed by 8 minutes and 8 seconds!
L497[11:46:39] <MGR> %juggle 6
L498[11:46:40] * MichiBot juggles with The Shiny Health &amp; Safety Brick! (10%), an anti-prism, a raft on fire, a Magic 1x Compressed Sentence! (25%), The Health & Safety Brick, & cheese love
L499[11:46:54] <Forecaster> aw dangit
L500[11:47:06] <Forecaster> what shouldn't have happened
L501[11:47:10] <Forecaster> what happened to the name comparison
L502[11:53:49] <Skye> %potion
L503[11:53:49] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a runny copper potion
L504[11:53:55] <Skye> %drink ^
L505[11:53:56] <MichiBot> Skye's clothes turn the color of purple.
L506[11:54:04] <MGR> %potion
L507[11:54:04] <MichiBot> MGR: You get a sour gold potion
L508[11:54:08] <MGR> %drink ^
L509[11:54:08] <MichiBot> MGR loses one point of speed.
L510[11:54:25] <MGR> Dang, I'm down to infinity-1
L511[11:54:45] <Skye> %drink a sweet pink potion
L512[11:54:45] <MichiBot> Skye gains the ability to not be seen.
L513[11:54:50] <Skye> Cool
L514[11:55:03] <Skye> %drink a sweet brown potion
L515[11:55:03] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L516[11:55:07] <Skye> Aw
L517[11:55:20] <Forecaster> "brown" is called chocolate :P
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L519[12:00:45] <Mimiru> @Forecaster oh hmm.. might be related to the stripping I'm doing because you were storing the ZWS in the DB
L520[12:01:30] <Forecaster> then you have to strip when comparing too :|
L521[12:01:41] <Forecaster> so get strippin D:<
L522[12:01:49] <Mimiru> I thought I was, I'd like to point out, I'm sick as fuck
L523[12:01:50] <Mimiru> :P
L524[12:02:51] <Forecaster> also I didn't see any harm in storing the ZWS
L525[12:02:58] <Forecaster> so I didn't bother
L526[12:04:08] <Mimiru> It broke... something.
L527[12:04:12] <Mimiru> Meh I don't remember
L528[12:04:34] <Mimiru> OH right
L529[12:04:46] <Mimiru> Mimiru and Mim[zws]ru
L530[12:05:10] <Forecaster> ah, so it was a you-problem :P
L531[12:05:24] <Mimiru> Well, it was an anyone who tonks from IRC and Discord problem.
L532[12:05:57] <Forecaster> so you and lizzy then :P
L533[12:06:04] <Forecaster> pretty much
L534[12:14:41] <Mimiru> well, let's see if that works then
L535[12:15:42] <Mimiru> %restart
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L539[12:16:26] <Mimiru> @Forecaster try to tonk?
L540[12:17:58] <Mimiru> <@MichiBot2> Mimiru's new record is 20 hours, 45 minutes and 21 seconds! 19 hours, 43 minutes and 27 seconds gained!
L541[12:17:58] <Mimiru> <@Mimiru> ^tonk
L542[12:17:58] <Mimiru> <@MichiBot2> You still hold the record Mimiru, for now... 20 hours, 45 minutes and 21 seconds
L543[12:18:02] <Mimiru> Yeah looks like it works now
L544[12:20:30] <Lizzy> %tonk
L545[12:20:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds this time.
L546[12:20:31] <MichiBot> 33 minutes and 58 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 44 minutes and 54 seconds!
L547[12:37:25] <Inari> AmandaC: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/100709882956611584/545671154975899648/1539977377273.gif it's you!
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L549[13:30:12] <Bob> http://tinyurl.com/yymvucu3
L550[13:30:13] <Bob> Mhmhmhm
L551[13:33:16] <MGR> ~w signals
L552[13:33:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
L553[13:34:07] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> Someone explain this Windows behaviour to me http://tinyurl.com/y2svgc53
L554[13:34:56] <MGR> I think it can be related to the snap to grid setting
L555[13:35:00] <MGR> But I'm not really sure
L556[13:36:28] <Zef> 2.4 mb that's a big number
L557[13:36:44] <Bob> Windows...
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L559[13:43:38] <Jason> Hi
L560[13:44:38] <MGR> %hello
L561[13:44:39] <MichiBot> MGR: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L562[13:45:23] <Jason> Good to know,
L563[13:46:21] <Jason> I am new to this mod, only just started playing around with it, im familiar with coding, but now lua, my question is, how do i use the linked cards to send a command from tablet to run a script on server and send back the resualt. AKA how do i send and receive using the linked cards.
L564[13:46:40] <Inari> ~oc linked
L565[13:46:40] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:linked_card
L566[13:47:06] <Inari> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:tunnel well the send of the component wuld be the way to send?
L567[13:47:08] <Jason> I've read that, but it didnt explain much
L568[13:47:37] <Jason> its the reading bit im stuck on atm
L569[13:47:54] <Inari> It generates a modem_message event according to that
L570[13:47:54] <Mimiru> watch for modem_message events
L571[13:47:55] <Inari> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:signals?s[]=signals
L572[13:48:33] <Forecaster> %tonk
L573[13:48:34] <MichiBot> You still hold the record Forecaster, for now... 3 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds
L574[13:48:38] <Forecaster> Yay
L575[13:48:49] <Inari> %potion
L576[13:48:49] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a muddy yellow potion
L577[13:48:51] <Inari> %drink ^
L578[13:48:51] <MichiBot> Inari's bones turn blue.
L579[13:50:10] <Jason> ty btw
L580[13:50:29] <Jason> the ingame IRC card, does that connect to this, and its only lootable right?
L581[13:50:45] <Mimiru> The IRC disk can connect to any IRC servver
L582[13:50:48] <Mimiru> server too
L583[13:51:10] <Mimiru> Also, you can craft with a disk and a scrench to cycle the loot disks
L584[13:51:28] <Inari> (making the whole loot mechanic kinda pointless)
L585[13:51:53] <Mimiru> Are they even loot disks at this point? I know in 1.8 the loot system was broken, so the scrench cycle thing was added..
L586[13:52:03] <Mimiru> I'm not sure if it was ever put back
L587[13:52:18] <Mimiru> (I've not found a loot disk in 1.12 yet)
L588[13:53:20] <Jason> nice, i will be setting that up at some point, ty
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L590[13:55:00] <Inari> No clue
L591[13:55:07] <Inari> I don't really do dungeons, if I ever play
L592[14:26:24] <Jason> does anyone have an example program i can have for sending a message over a linked card
L593[14:27:49] <Jason> im struggling to understand the documentation
L594[14:28:47] <Bob> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:tunnel same as modem
L595[14:29:21] <Bob> event.pull("idk whats its name") to receive
L596[14:29:31] <Bob> send(data...) maxPacketSize():number
L597[14:36:24] <Jason> ty, that works, i think i get it now
L598[14:38:18] <Bob> some one needs to make a microcontroller teseract for OC ?
L599[14:38:21] <Bob> transmit signals
L600[14:43:39] <Z0idburg> what?
L601[14:43:46] <Z0idburg> why?
L602[14:43:57] <Z0idburg> you have linked cards for point to point
L603[14:44:26] <Z0idburg> you know what I think there should be for a mod?
L604[14:45:23] <Z0idburg> a mod that uses a HIGH ammount of energy to transform items into string data in a way that you can't duplicate them without breaking some sort of hashing
L605[14:45:28] <Z0idburg> and cant repeat them
L606[14:45:43] <Z0idburg> only valid on the server it is generated on
L607[14:45:57] <Z0idburg> that way you can manually set up networks similar to AE
L608[14:46:02] <Bob> :GWpaboaWeSmart:
L609[14:46:04] <Z0idburg> in a safe non OP way
L610[14:46:22] <Z0idburg> but if you lose the data you lose the item obviously forveer
L611[14:46:57] <Inari> format C:
L612[14:48:12] <Inari> @Z0idburg: Seems oddly contrived thoughk, so basically what AE is
L613[14:51:40] <Zef> Didn't ping them right @Z0idburg
L614[14:52:13] <Z0idburg> ?
L615[14:52:40] <Z0idburg> yes inari, except you get manual control of it
L616[14:52:42] <Z0idburg> ?
L617[14:52:50] <Z0idburg> you can use OC to do the operations
L618[14:55:37] <Z0idburg> maybe make it so that its not OC that holds the data itself and you get fingerprints, and you can transmit fingerprints of stored items in arrays
L619[14:55:59] <Z0idburg> but when they are used the item is transported to the other
L620[14:56:34] <Z0idburg> could be a good AE addon
L621[14:57:01] <Z0idburg> but I dont want to use AE
L622[14:57:09] <Z0idburg> I really like Izaya's drone idea
L623[14:59:31] <Forecaster> Can't have a non-whitespace character after the name for the ping to work
L624[14:59:41] <Forecaster> Because regex
L625[14:59:48] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L626[14:59:49] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 3 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds this time.
L627[14:59:50] <MichiBot> 2 hours, 39 minutes and 18 seconds were wasted! Missed by 39 minutes and 34 seconds!
L628[14:59:52] <CompanionCube> damn
L629[15:00:19] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L630[15:00:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! Current score: 0.003
L631[15:00:35] <Forecaster> Well foo
L632[15:02:18] <Mimiru> ffs
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L635[15:03:43] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L636[15:15:11] <Mimiru> @Forecaster fixed your points..
L637[15:15:22] <Forecaster> %tonkpoints
L638[15:15:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You currently have 0.039 points!
L639[15:15:27] <Forecaster> woo
L640[15:15:28] <Forecaster> :D
L641[15:15:30] <Mimiru> %tonkleaders
L642[15:15:31] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L643[15:15:33] <Mimiru> :P
L644[15:15:35] <Forecaster> I have my useless points back
L645[15:16:00] <Forecaster> yes I'm still third :P
L646[15:26:39] <Temia> %tonk
L647[15:26:39] <MichiBot> Fudge! Temia! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L648[15:26:40] <MichiBot> Temia's new record is 26 minutes and 19 seconds! 26 minutes and 19 seconds gained!
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L651[15:37:39] <Inari> %pet Temia
L652[15:38:04] * Inari pokes MichiBot
L653[15:44:03] <Forecaster> %pet the pet
L654[15:44:10] <Forecaster> huh
L655[15:44:25] <Forecaster> %potion
L656[15:44:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a ripe void potion
L657[15:44:34] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L658[15:44:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster loses exactly a handful of luck.
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L660[15:54:43] <AmandaC> "Exactly a handful"
L661[15:56:40] <Lizzy> %tonk
L662[15:56:41] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Lizzy! You beat Temia's previous record of 26 minutes and 19 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L663[15:56:42] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 30 minutes and 1 second! 3 minutes and 42 seconds gained!
L664[16:00:30] <Z0idburg> %tonkasaurus
L665[16:00:38] <Z0idburg> %tonkatruck
L666[16:00:58] <MGR> %tonkuverymuch
L667[16:01:09] <Z0idburg> oh yeah! I forgot I have messages waiting
L668[16:01:16] <MGR> From me too ?
L669[16:08:02] <Forecaster> There's no measurement more precise than a handful
L670[16:09:33] <Mimiru> %pet MichiBot
L671[16:09:33] <MichiBot> Mimiru: I'm not going to pet myself in public. It'd be rude.
L672[16:09:40] <Mimiru> %pet @"Forecaster"
L673[16:09:41] * MichiBot pets @"Forecaster" with Lööps. 6 health gained!
L674[16:09:45] * Mimiru shrugs
L675[16:19:04] <Inari> Remember
L676[16:19:10] <Inari> Love with your heart, use your head for everything else
L677[16:19:51] <Forecaster> I just watched his new video too :P
L678[16:23:51] <Inari> Oh no
L679[16:23:54] <Inari> I found a dangerous page
L680[16:24:10] <Inari> http://www.shutupandtakemyyen.com/product/kagerou-project-tights/
L681[16:25:24] <AmandaC> WEll, at least it's not that gif you sent elsenet which pops back up every time I have to reload my client
L682[16:26:41] <Inari> Haha
L683[16:26:55] <Inari> AmandaC: Not that I could link that here
L684[16:27:00] <AmandaC> :P
L685[16:27:12] <AmandaC> It'll probably be taken down by tomorrow morning anyway
L686[16:27:28] <AmandaC> I just restarted a couple times to get my new cooling fan installed.
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L688[16:46:08] <Lizzy> %tonk
L689[16:46:09] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Lizzy! You beat your own previous record of 30 minutes and 1 second! I hope you're happy!
L690[16:46:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 49 minutes and 28 seconds! 19 minutes and 26 seconds gained!
L691[16:48:49] <CompanionCube> %tonkpoints
L692[16:48:49] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: You currently have 0.069 points!
L693[16:48:55] <CompanionCube> oh no i missed inari
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L697[18:00:36] <Skye> %tonk
L698[18:00:36] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Skye! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 49 minutes and 28 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L699[18:00:37] <MichiBot> Skye's new record is 1 hour, 14 minutes and 27 seconds! 24 minutes and 59 seconds gained!
L700[18:00:51] <Skye> %tonkout
L701[18:00:52] <MichiBot> Skye has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.001
L702[18:00:57] <Skye> %tonk
L703[18:01:02] <Skye> Hm
L704[18:01:04] <Skye> Okay
L705[18:21:43] <AmandaC> %tell Inari "Now stop questioning this disembodied voice echoing through your head and get ready. This will take quite a bit of my divine power..." Sassy goddess is sassy
L706[18:21:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L707[18:28:47] <Skye> %tonk
L708[18:28:47] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Skye! You beat your own previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L709[18:28:48] <MichiBot> Skye's new record is 27 minutes and 55 seconds! 27 minutes and 55 seconds gained!
L710[18:28:51] <Skye> Goodnight
L711[19:15:26] <Zef> %tonk
L712[19:15:27] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Zef! You beat Skye's previous record of 27 minutes and 55 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L713[19:15:28] <MichiBot> Zef's new record is 46 minutes and 39 seconds! 18 minutes and 43 seconds gained!
L714[19:15:44] <Zef> I accidentally typed it in the alternative keyboard at first like
L715[19:15:48] <Zef> %æ[{
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L718[19:22:11] <Jason> how would i join this IRC using the ingame tablet?
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L720[19:40:53] <Zef> Uh probably running the IRC program on it
L721[19:40:58] <Zef> Can't help beyond that
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L723[20:29:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> YOUR GOVERNMENT IS HIDING FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY FROM YOU https://ftbwiki.org/images/7/7d/Block_Creative_Energy_Cell.png
L724[20:30:12] <Mimiru> I straight up damn near banned you.
L725[20:30:15] <Mimiru> lol..
L726[20:30:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> #oc is the only logical place for psychotic conspiracy theorists to spam
L727[20:30:57] <ba7888b72413a16a> :P
L728[20:33:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> %tonk
L729[20:33:51] <MichiBot> Willikers! ba7888b72413a16a! You beat Zef's previous record of 46 minutes and 39 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L730[20:33:52] <MichiBot> ba7888b72413a16a's new record is 1 hour, 18 minutes and 24 seconds! 31 minutes and 45 seconds gained!
L731[21:09:21] <Z0idburg> yeah why didnt you ban him
L732[21:09:24] <Z0idburg> lol
L733[21:09:59] <Izaya> don't say that :<
L734[21:10:21] <Z0idburg> lol
L735[21:10:36] * Izaya is a fan of conspiracy theories
L736[21:10:40] <Z0idburg> NOW MY MOUSE IS MOVING ON ITS OWN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION
L737[21:10:45] <Z0idburg> whyyyyyyy
L738[21:10:55] <Z0idburg> why does windows 10 do this
L739[21:12:31] <Izaya> because it's more natural™
L740[21:12:55] <Izaya> Or if you prefer, because they're copying Apple waging war on their users
L741[21:15:23] <Z0idburg> tbh
L742[21:15:33] <Z0idburg> apple should have given up 20 years ago
L743[21:15:45] <Z0idburg> they pretty much lost the war then
L744[21:17:10] <Z0idburg> I won't support a community of wannabe hipsters
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L746[21:19:03] <CompanionCube> apple aren't hipsters though
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L748[21:20:45] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-offensive-usb-cable-allows-remote-attacks-over-wifi/ while the mechanism isn't new
L749[21:20:53] <CompanionCube> putting it in a cable is rather creative.
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L751[21:25:27] <Z0idburg> funnie
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L753[21:26:29] <Z0idburg> I like how they are calling them deauth attacks
L754[21:26:45] <Z0idburg> back in the day we called them disassociation attacks
L755[21:26:51] <Z0idburg> before it was cool
L756[21:27:06] <Kleadron> time to remove all usb ports from my computer and use propriatary xbox controller ports which are basically just deformed usb ports
L757[21:27:19] <Z0idburg> they are USB
L758[21:27:28] <CompanionCube> lol
L759[21:27:35] <Z0idburg> how do you think I got software from my computer onto the XBOX?
L760[21:27:37] <Z0idburg> ?
L761[21:27:48] <Z0idburg> I just wired a usb stick up to the memory card port
L762[21:27:54] <Kleadron> i literally just said they are USB
L763[21:27:58] <Kleadron> deformed usb ports
L764[21:28:06] <Z0idburg> I wouldn't even say they are deformed
L765[21:28:18] <Kleadron> they are physically deformed but work the same
L766[21:28:23] <Z0idburg> right
L767[21:28:32] <Z0idburg> they even use the standard color coding
L768[21:28:37] <Z0idburg> that usb cables use for their wire pairs
L769[21:28:49] <Mimiru> well, with an extra yellow
L770[21:29:04] <Kleadron> might be possible to modify a controller to have a normal usb connector
L771[21:29:12] <Mimiru> It is
L772[21:29:13] <Z0idburg> i have an xbox controller that I cut
L773[21:29:28] <Z0idburg> and threw a usb extension cable on it because I needed a controller for my desktop
L774[21:29:38] <Z0idburg> this was bakc in high school
L775[21:29:53] <Mimiru> I softmodded my xbox with a wireless controller that I slapped a pair of USB ports on to the receiver
L776[21:30:03] <Z0idburg> heh
L777[21:30:26] <Mimiru> cause the memory cards were just USB flash drives...
L778[21:30:29] <Kleadron> i wonder why they didnt just use normal usb ports
L779[21:30:32] <Z0idburg> I softmodded mine as well
L780[21:30:51] <Z0idburg> because USB isn't designed to be reconnected
L781[21:30:59] <Z0idburg> but original XBOX ports are
L782[21:31:04] <Kleadron> they could have also added a usb port to the back of the console
L783[21:31:21] <Z0idburg> the USB connector is perhaps on the list of failed engineered connectors
L784[21:31:29] <Mimiru> because they wanted you to use THEIR peripherals
L785[21:31:34] <Z0idburg> everybody used it as a temporary device
L786[21:31:52] <Z0idburg> but USB isn't designed to be connected and connected over and over
L787[21:32:09] <Z0idburg> well, microsoft was smart and actually formed connectors designed for that purpose
L788[21:32:17] <Z0idburg> they were designed to be abused
L789[21:32:46] <Z0idburg> even the controller cables were designed to be abused
L790[21:32:57] <Z0idburg> so you didn't ruin your xbox when you tripped over your cords
L791[21:33:22] <Kleadron> why arent we using big bulky xbox connectors then ?
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L793[21:33:43] <Z0idburg> because microsoft claimed dibbs on them
L794[21:33:53] <Z0idburg> and they take up too much space for modern users demands
L795[21:34:15] <Z0idburg> the thunderbolt / mini display port is one of my favorite connector styles
L796[21:34:22] <Z0idburg> it is a small connector designed for abuse
L797[21:34:40] <CompanionCube> USB superposition is also annoying
L798[21:34:46] <Z0idburg> the USB C connector isn't too bad
L799[21:34:51] <Z0idburg> but again it's USB
L800[21:34:58] <Z0idburg> that too
L801[21:34:59] <james> hello
L802[21:35:17] <Z0idburg> What
L803[21:35:24] <Z0idburg> Hi
L804[21:35:27] <Mimiru> %hello
L805[21:35:27] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L806[21:35:27] <Kleadron> hi
L807[21:35:36] <james> bye
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L809[21:35:48] <Z0idburg> ...
L810[21:35:51] <CompanionCube> why did they not stay
L811[21:35:52] <Z0idburg> dafuq
L812[21:35:59] <Z0idburg> probably because of me
L813[21:36:12] <Z0idburg> I scared him
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L815[21:36:22] <Z0idburg> omg omg
L816[21:36:29] <Z0idburg> so this guy got his account hacked right
L817[21:36:33] <CompanionCube> hello again
L818[21:36:41] <Z0idburg> they changed his password to whiteHat
L819[21:36:44] <Z0idburg> XD LOLOLOL
L820[21:37:18] <Z0idburg> considering it was spamming shittons of junk...
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L822[21:40:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> frankly, "natural" scrolling is the proper way a mousepad should be
L823[21:41:00] <ba7888b72413a16a> not a scroll wheel though
L824[21:41:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> that's just wrong
L825[21:41:26] <Kleadron> wtf do you mean natural scrolling
L826[21:41:28] <Kleadron> elaborate
L827[21:42:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> where the two-finger guesture is like touching the document and moving it
L828[21:43:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> rather than like touching and moving the scrollbar
L829[21:43:03] <Z0idburg> that is not natral at all
L830[21:43:14] <Z0idburg> natural*
L831[21:43:26] <Z0idburg> that is inverted scrolling
L832[21:43:42] <ba7888b72413a16a> no, your face is inverted scrolling
L833[21:44:00] <ba7888b72413a16a> it's totally not preference or anything, there's obviously an objective way to do it
L834[21:44:01] <Kleadron> elaborate
L835[21:44:08] <Z0idburg> on a touchscreen, it should be inverted as they are, but for everything else no fuck that
L836[21:45:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> but for real it's a bit of silly debate simply because you get used to either configuration extremely fast
L837[21:45:24] <Z0idburg> I don't
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L839[21:45:25] <ba7888b72413a16a> I know that because at some point my natural scrolling configuration stopped working after an update
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L841[21:45:40] <ba7888b72413a16a> I got used to it within hours
L842[21:45:50] <Z0idburg> I had problems finding the damn setting for a week once
L843[21:45:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> and kept it like that for about a year before changing back
L844[21:45:53] <Z0idburg> that was AWFUL
L845[21:46:23] <Z0idburg> when I first started computers most of them didn't even have a mouse
L846[21:46:36] <Z0idburg> some people had mice but only certain programs would work with them
L847[21:47:12] <Z0idburg> and on my computer there were no mice but you could buy joysticks which did the exact same thing
L848[21:47:19] <Z0idburg> and that would get you a pointer device
L849[21:47:20] <ba7888b72413a16a> I could live without a mouse if vimperator ever comes back
L850[21:47:29] <ba7888b72413a16a> rather than some half-baked webextension
L851[21:50:55] <Z0idburg> I think most people now wouldn't know a mouse ball if they saw one
L852[21:52:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> hypixel has a "guess the build" game that I've played a few times. I haven't seen a single person guess "cassette"
L853[21:52:28] <Z0idburg> %tonk
L854[21:52:30] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Z0idburg! You beat ba7888b72413a16a's previous record of 1 hour, 18 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L855[21:52:31] <MichiBot> Z0idburg's new record is 1 hour, 18 minutes and 38 seconds! 13 seconds gained!
L856[21:52:48] <Z0idburg> 13 seconds?
L857[21:53:11] <Z0idburg> THATS HOILARIOUS
L858[21:53:13] <Z0idburg> know why?
L859[21:53:28] <ba7888b72413a16a> cause they're children
L860[21:53:47] <Z0idburg> I was just thinking in my head "I wonder whern the last time somebody tonked is" then said, well I'm too lazy to look up so ill %tonk anyways XD
L861[21:53:49] <Z0idburg> wow.
L862[21:53:52] <Zef> I'm 16, I use cassettes
L863[21:53:54] <Zef> Lol
L864[21:53:54] <ba7888b72413a16a> lol
L865[21:54:03] <Z0idburg> my answer machine uses 2 casettes
L866[21:54:06] <ba7888b72413a16a> @Zef psh, magnetic audio/video sucks
L867[21:54:17] <Z0idburg> my computer upstairs stores to cassette
L868[21:54:21] <ba7888b72413a16a> the only reason to cling to it is nostalgia factor
L869[21:54:24] <Zef> On a shitty tape yeah
L870[21:54:33] <Zef> I've actually also got a reel to reel machine
L871[21:54:44] <Z0idburg> that is so not true
L872[21:54:44] <ba7888b72413a16a> reel to reel is the bigger scam because of how ridiculously expensive it is
L873[21:54:53] <Z0idburg> nostalgia is not the only reason to cling to it
L874[21:54:54] <Zef> Lol
L875[21:55:04] <Zef> My friend is gonna just be so annoyed at you
L876[21:55:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> a digital audio reproduction setup would provide way, way more value
L877[21:55:21] <Zef> You can have high quality tape
L878[21:56:04] <ba7888b72413a16a> it's true that analog formats can reach a point where they have reproduction imperceptible from digital, but digital is theoretically better in all ways
L879[21:56:04] <Z0idburg> I have a profesisonal audio rack, with modern high quality electronics. the purpose of using vintage equipment is nothing relaly to do with that sort of quality
L880[21:56:23] <ba7888b72413a16a> and analog formats are destroyed slightly every time they're played back
L881[21:56:48] <Z0idburg> The purpose is way different
L882[21:56:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> hisses, pops, and cracks? nah, give me digital
L883[21:58:21] <Zef> Can you even hear audio quality?
L884[21:58:35] <Z0idburg> there's absolutely valid and acceptable reasons for using older equipment.
L885[21:58:35] <Kleadron> yes
L886[21:58:39] <Kleadron> you can
L887[21:58:44] <Kleadron> if you can hear good enough
L888[21:58:45] <ba7888b72413a16a> there is some cool vintage analog equipment, but I would never be in the market unless I got it for free
L889[21:58:47] <Zef> I was referring to them directly
L890[21:59:04] <Zef> I can't but my friend has a very good ear for it
L891[21:59:10] <Z0idburg> the thing is, for one vintage equipment is much easier to repair
L892[21:59:25] <Zef> It also has much more care put into it
L893[21:59:32] <Zef> More reliable and sturdy
L894[21:59:48] <Z0idburg> when my answering machine has a mechanical failure I can fix it, even if that means cutting new metal parts
L895[21:59:50] <Zef> Rather than a single chip on a board in a plastic case
L896[21:59:55] <ba7888b72413a16a> the tradeoff is that you need more equipment with analog in the first place
L897[22:00:02] <Zef> With a $150 price tag
L898[22:00:15] <Zef> Really though?
L899[22:00:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> most producers can do pretty much everything they would need using a computer and a good external DAC
L900[22:00:31] <Zef> Oh for recording
L901[22:00:34] <Zef> Even then
L902[22:00:46] <Zef> Just reciever and tape rack or other storage
L903[22:02:25] <Z0idburg> All I'm saying is, I have professional audio equipment, and I use that for its purposes. However, I respect analog equipment for casual use because it's a lot less stressful to deal with
L904[22:02:47] <Zef> It can produce richer sounds
L905[22:03:02] <ba7888b72413a16a> what is "richness"
L906[22:03:09] <Zef> Then again I can't hear the difference personally
L907[22:03:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> the difference with analog formats is usually just additional distortion that gives it a certain feeling
L908[22:03:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> that distortion could be replicated perfectly by a computer
L909[22:04:18] <Z0idburg> this goes with everything not just audio. Old computers included. Computers these days are too complicated, not simple, they are a bitch to use and too many things can go wrong.
L910[22:04:39] <ba7888b72413a16a> but again, in the end there's just very little difference in audio fidelity between digital and analog
L911[22:04:48] <Z0idburg> they become less and less simple every year as they have since forever ago
L912[22:04:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> analog is just gonna empty your pockets more
L913[22:05:20] <Z0idburg> my entire audio rack is digital
L914[22:05:27] <Z0idburg> including my 8000 watt amplifier.
L915[22:06:05] <Z0idburg> that's because it's better tbh to go either all analog or all digital for pro setups
L916[22:08:22] <Z0idburg> I will say though..
L917[22:08:46] <Z0idburg> I must prefer passive speakers than active
L918[22:08:53] <Z0idburg> I think these active digital speakers are horible
L919[22:08:55] <ba7888b72413a16a> and yeah you have a point about obselescense I guess... but I could theoretically use ancient software to play modern MP3s just fine at the same exact fidelity
L920[22:09:30] <Z0idburg> I rather have digital amps feeding passive speakers
L921[22:09:51] <Z0idburg> than a bunch of speakers being fed from some crossbar or mixer, etc
L922[22:10:00] <Zef> Amplification is analog technically
L923[22:10:03] <Z0idburg> that have active amps
L924[22:10:14] <ba7888b72413a16a> @Zef true, but it's sort of just the last step
L925[22:10:25] <Z0idburg> yes
L926[22:10:32] <ba7888b72413a16a> everything is digital until it goes through a series of resistors in a DAC chip
L927[22:10:48] <Z0idburg> my amp has giganitic ring transformers in them that weigh like 20 pounds a piece
L928[22:10:49] <Z0idburg> lol
L929[22:11:00] <Z0idburg> and an internal cooling system
L930[22:11:08] <Z0idburg> because.. 8Kw
L931[22:11:17] <Z0idburg> that's a lot of energy
L932[22:11:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> the air around us is analog, so somewhere during both reproduction and recording that's gotta happen
L933[22:11:43] <Z0idburg> but it can run a nice 2KW 2x18 speaker set
L934[22:11:54] <Z0idburg> like it's nothing
L935[22:12:07] <Z0idburg> that's another thing ba
L936[22:12:14] <Z0idburg> so I work for a telephone company right
L937[22:12:24] <Z0idburg> and here's one problem with having SIP VOIP phones
L938[22:12:36] <Z0idburg> customers call in say "high my phone is noisy"
L939[22:12:46] <Z0idburg> "it must be your voip service"
L940[22:12:47] <Z0idburg> ......
L941[22:12:49] <Zef> My friends reaction to your amp
L942[22:12:50] <Z0idburg> NO
L943[22:12:54] <Zef> "Class D is literally garbage"
L944[22:12:55] <Z0idburg> it's not your damn service lol
L945[22:13:47] <Z0idburg> whats worse is when these people are calling another sip phone without any analog PSTN propagation
L946[22:13:50] <Z0idburg> and they want to blame you
L947[22:14:04] <Z0idburg> but in reality they get mad when you tell them its either them or the other en
L948[22:14:07] <Z0idburg> end*
L949[22:14:31] <Z0idburg> What's that Zef?
L950[22:14:37] <ba7888b72413a16a> in any digital audio setup, the components dealing with analog signals are really the parts where you invest money
L951[22:14:50] <ba7888b72413a16a> you could use a goddamned raspberry pi for everything else (if you don't care about audio latency)
L952[22:15:01] <Zef> He said that class d amps are only practical for under 75hz
L953[22:15:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> (or usability of larger software suites, obviously)
L954[22:15:28] <Z0idburg> well he can't tell the difference know why?
L955[22:15:37] <Z0idburg> because my class D amplifier is 96Khz
L956[22:15:47] <Z0idburg> not even an audiophile can distinct that.
L957[22:16:29] <ba7888b72413a16a> but muh hi-res
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L960[22:17:12] <Z0idburg> probably shouln't use a pi though
L961[22:17:16] <Z0idburg> because those things are POS
L962[22:17:17] <Z0idburg> lol
L963[22:17:20] <ba7888b72413a16a> I can't seem to find high-end digital audio reproduction that doesn't support hi-res nonsense these days
L964[22:17:25] <ba7888b72413a16a> whole industry fell for that trend
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L966[22:20:43] <Jason> What does the "enabled" button do on the server rack?
L967[22:21:04] <Z0idburg> Zef: The thing is, a good switching system is fine for audio playback an production
L968[22:21:06] <Z0idburg> now..
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L970[22:21:19] <Z0idburg> IF you are transmitting radio you really need a linear amp
L971[22:21:54] <Z0idburg> especially if you are transmitting digital information
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L973[22:22:36] <Z0idburg> We had a linear amp hooked up to our HF setup
L974[22:22:50] <Z0idburg> worked quite nice
L975[22:23:13] <Z0idburg> we could beam morse code from Maine to the bahamas with 5 watts of power
L976[22:23:15] <Z0idburg> ?
L977[22:23:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> Jason: doesn't it connect all sides components together?
L978[22:24:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> so you can have a single cable coming out with all the computers on the same wire
L979[22:25:09] <Z0idburg> be very careful of the relay button
L980[22:25:13] <Z0idburg> I usually disable it
L981[22:25:20] <Z0idburg> it causes awful problems
L982[22:25:29] <Z0idburg> like packet duplication
L983[22:26:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> oh, not components. network packets only
L984[22:26:29] <ba7888b72413a16a> @Z0idburg minitel would solve that issue I guess
L985[22:26:51] * Izaya has been summoned
L986[22:27:05] <Z0idburg> well the problem is that it makes the rack act like a relay
L987[22:27:13] <Z0idburg> an if you have morethan one rack like I do in a room
L988[22:27:21] * ba7888b72413a16a puts minitel in a water pipe, smokes it
L989[22:27:22] <Z0idburg> then they just repeat packets all over the place and make a mess
L990[22:27:38] <Izaya> hi yes duplicate messages are dropped but that can't do anything about network loops in one segment
L991[22:27:55] <Z0idburg> so I click the relay button to disable that BS
L992[22:28:08] <Z0idburg> and then have one relay for all ofthe racks externally
L993[22:28:15] <Izaya> internal relay slows down network performance significantly IME
L994[22:29:24] <ba7888b72413a16a> OC's builtin relays in general significantly cut throughput, even if you buff them in config
L995[22:29:27] <Z0idburg> I wish that OC cables could be channelized sometimes
L996[22:29:33] <Z0idburg> like VLAN tagged
L997[22:30:06] <Z0idburg> there's ports, but I mean a way to virtually physically seperate them
L998[22:30:21] <Jason> how does networking work within a rack?
L999[22:30:29] <Z0idburg> poorly
L1000[22:30:37] <Jason> i see :/
L1001[22:30:48] <Z0idburg> it's relaly no different
L1002[22:31:10] <Z0idburg> shut the relays off and tue the server to some output and voila
L1003[22:31:51] <Z0idburg> tie*
L1004[22:31:51] <Jason> so it should say "Disabled" and NOT "enabled" right?
L1005[22:32:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> yeah disabled
L1006[22:32:25] <Z0idburg> its the most confusing part
L1007[22:33:46] <Jason> it just wont work in the same rack :/
L1008[22:34:41] <Z0idburg> should
L1009[22:34:56] <Z0idburg> you know whats dump
L1010[22:34:59] <Z0idburg> dumb*
L1011[22:35:07] <Z0idburg> the raid component should be rack mountable
L1012[22:35:14] <Jason> it should :/
L1013[22:35:14] <Z0idburg> unless they fixed that recently
L1014[22:35:23] <Z0idburg> it also should support unmanaged drives
L1015[22:35:24] <Jason> I love this mod, and its my first day using it
L1016[22:35:45] <Jason> i once chose computercraft over this... that was a mistake
L1017[22:35:46] <Z0idburg> because Trotwood in the end is going to be unmanaged storage
L1018[22:35:48] <Z0idburg> binary filesystem
L1019[22:36:10] <Z0idburg> computercraft is not really that bad
L1020[22:36:10] <Mimiru> part of a rackmountable raid exists in OpenSecurity
L1021[22:36:13] <Mimiru> I never finished it
L1022[22:36:33] <Z0idburg> Mimiru you should finish it! ?
L1023[22:36:40] <Z0idburg> but unmanaged support is a must ? ?
L1024[22:36:56] <Mimiru> it was litterally, a rack mount version of the block
L1025[22:37:03] <Mimiru> literally*
L1026[22:37:07] <Z0idburg> good good
L1027[22:37:18] <Z0idburg> I need my rack SAN
L1028[22:37:19] <Z0idburg> ?
L1029[22:38:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> if you put an OC server rack in the nether, does it become a netherrack?
L1030[22:40:59] <Z0idburg> LOL
L1031[22:55:10] <Kleadron> for some reason after a couple minutes of playing, my xbox 360 stops spinning my halo ce anniversary disc and then the game crashes
L1032[22:56:14] <Z0idburg> we had this problem only with halo 1 on the original xbox
L1033[22:56:31] <Z0idburg> and everytime we flipped the disc over it had oil on it from the dvd reader
L1034[22:56:33] <Z0idburg> lol
L1035[22:57:03] <Z0idburg> we nicknamed it ecto-plasma
L1036[23:02:50] <Izaya> time to switch to a nicer case
L1037[23:04:26] <Kleadron> its not dropping halo 3 though
L1038[23:04:42] <Kleadron> halo 3 and reach work perfectly but it doesnt like halo 1 anniversary
L1039[23:18:58] <Wattana Gaming> why is the sudo meme so overused?
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L1041[23:27:29] <Kleadron> sudo halt
L1042[23:28:12] <AmandaC> %remindme 8h add notifications for the story you binged much too late last night
L1043[23:28:12] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "add notifications for the story you binged much too late last night" at 02/15/2019 07:28:12 AM
L1044[23:28:39] <AmandaC> %8ball should I be good?
L1045[23:28:39] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a doubt
L1046[23:28:44] <AmandaC> ...
L1047[23:28:47] <AmandaC> TRAITOR
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L1049[23:42:51] <Jason> i cant figure this out :/
L1050[23:42:53] <Jason> https://gyazo.com/7e3c6ec89fe17b1191415820608d860a
L1051[23:43:47] <Jason> https://gyazo.com/5e810b9ff79610ff3ba33cb940d21471
L1052[23:44:06] <Jason> when the 4th server is on the 2nd rack it all suddonly works
L1053[23:44:19] <Jason> (the 2nd slot on the 2nd rack is a dns(ish) server)
L1054[23:44:25] <ben_mkiv> try to connect power from the backside
L1055[23:44:31] <Jason> it is
L1056[23:44:33] <ben_mkiv> afaik it doesnt accept power from the sides
L1057[23:44:34] <ben_mkiv> oh
L1058[23:44:49] <Jason> that conduit is OC conduit
L1059[23:45:09] <Jason> all of them are set to do network on left side (my right) its kinda annoying that its inverted
L1060[23:46:04] <Jason> i am using t2 wifi cards in all the servers though, so maybe that could be it
L1061[23:47:00] <Jason> it just refuses to comunicate with the ae2-server if its in the same rack :/
L1062[23:47:36] <Jason> the irony is, im having the same issue with an actuall server
L1063[23:47:51] <Jason> it refuses to communicate with a VM hosted on its self....
L1064[23:47:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L1065[23:47:54] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! CompanionCube! You beat Z0idburg's previous record of 1 hour, 18 minutes and 38 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1066[23:47:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 1 hour, 55 minutes and 24 seconds! 36 minutes and 46 seconds gained!
L1067[23:48:41] <ben_mkiv> so its your spirit, and not OCs fault :P
L1068[23:49:26] <Jason> i guess so :c
L1069[23:49:42] <Jason> proberbly a bad thing im soon to be studying networking
L1070[23:50:43] <Jason> is the address for the server same on wired as it is wireless?
L1071[23:50:49] <Jason> (im talking about OC again :P)
L1072[23:52:37] <ben_mkiv> the network address is not
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