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L7[01:49:55] <Dudblockman> Speaking of psi, I ended up making a newer version of my OC-Psi interface.
L8[01:51:15] <Dudblockman> Did some shenanigans and modified it to use 20 iterations (a circle spell in psi gets cast 20 times in a row)
L9[01:51:48] <Dudblockman> Each iteration reading 1 line of redstone, which corresponds to a value of 0-15, which can be represented by a nibble.
L10[01:53:14] <Dudblockman> Based on how I set up the operations performed, it communicates a full integer vector from OC to Psi
L11[01:53:22] <Dudblockman> 28 bit integer on X and Z, 24 on the Y
L12[01:54:13] <Dudblockman> Given that vectors are stored as 32 bit floats in psi... well you can't fully utilize it
L13[01:54:27] <Dudblockman> Only 23 bits in the mantissa after all
L14[01:55:14] <Dudblockman> But it opened up opportunities for having OC pass coordinates to spells
L15[02:05:16] <Dudblockman> My system would read 0000 as 0, 0001 as -1, and 0010 as 1
L16[02:06:30] <Dudblockman> Least significant bit determines sign, the rest determine magnitude from zero
L17[02:08:11] <Dudblockman> And due to the method I used, it just hops down from an arbitrary most significant nibble until you end on the least significant nibble.
L18[02:08:14] <Dudblockman> Each operation is the same due to the limitations psi has.
L19[02:10:48] <Dudblockman> And I just continuously cycle X, Y, and Z around with each cycle. It's a very dizzying operation
L20[02:12:01] <Dudblockman> I figure for sub-block position you can just divide the final output by some value
L21[02:12:40] <Izaya> OC-Psi?
L22[02:12:48] <Izaya> tell me more
L23[02:14:01] <Dudblockman> You are aware of what psi is, correct?
L24[02:15:43] <Izaya> Psi is the mod with graphically programmed spells casted with a CAD, right?
L25[02:16:15] <Dudblockman> Yep
L26[02:17:06] <Dudblockman> Disregard the name of the spell, forgot to change it after I modified the previous spell I wrote that got a 32 bit integer
L27[02:17:09] <Dudblockman> https://imgur.com/wyBF1Yu
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L29[02:18:04] <Izaya> is that a code generator for Psi?
L30[02:18:25] <Dudblockman> Psi allows you to import and export spells as text
L31[02:18:42] <Dudblockman> Part of how Vazkii wanted to facilitate spell sharing
L32[02:19:06] <Izaya> oooooooooo
L33[02:19:27] <Dudblockman> Theres also a keybind in the editor that takes a screenshot of the spell and uploads it to imgur along with the import code
L34[02:19:37] <Dudblockman> To make sharing ez as pi
L35[02:21:02] <Dudblockman> Oof wait that version of the spell has a mistake. That 32 at the bottom should be a 16
L36[02:22:01] <Dudblockman> But I made a contraption that OC controls... 20 lines of 15 pistons each
L37[02:23:22] <Dudblockman> http://tinyurl.com/ybbg9wln
L38[02:23:41] <Dudblockman> I hope discord embeds get sent properly
L39[02:24:07] <Dudblockman> The device is massive and honestly quite unwieldy
L40[02:25:32] <Dudblockman> Another modder is working on an addon for psi, and one of the things it adds is a comparator spell piece which reads from a position from the world as if it were a comparator pointed at that location
L41[02:25:59] <Izaya> the link works fine but social blocking induces lots of fun https://i.imgur.com/HDWclMs.png
L42[02:26:13] <McMaarten> lol what
L43[02:26:28] <McMaarten> Why would you filter discord
L44[02:26:37] <Dudblockman> So you can get the level that a comparator would output from a chest... or you can read the strength of a redstone signal in a wire
L45[02:26:39] <Izaya> It's user-hostile
L46[02:26:44] <McMaarten> ah
L47[02:26:44] <Izaya> and I'd prefer the embeds not tracking me
L48[02:26:59] <Izaya> I have a blanket block on any URL containing discordapp.com and I haven't been bothered to add an exception for the CDN
L49[02:27:44] <Dudblockman> http://imgur.com/a/3XI7tkX
L50[02:27:54] <Dudblockman> Here hosted on imgur
L51[02:28:05] <Dudblockman> There is a second image in there
L52[02:28:16] <Izaya> dw I can look at it fine I just allow it temporarily
L53[02:28:22] <Dudblockman> The first is the vanilla psi solution...
L54[02:28:31] <Izaya> OC version is much more compact
L55[02:28:36] <Dudblockman> Massive and a pain in the rear
L56[02:29:01] <Dudblockman> The 2nd version assumes you can read from the redstone dust with the psi addon
L57[02:29:05] <Izaya> which mod adds the sundial looking things?
L58[02:29:34] <Dudblockman> Actually those are just redstone IOs
L59[02:29:37] <Dudblockman> 20 of em
L60[02:29:59] <Dudblockman> I slapped draconic evolution... I forgot their name
L61[02:30:22] <Dudblockman> Basically a dial that emits a redstone level based on how you turn it
L62[02:31:20] <Dudblockman> I didn't want to keep track of addresses on all the redstone io blocks so I used the dials to input different redstone strengths I could read to number them in the program
L63[02:32:10] <Izaya> neat
L64[02:32:14] <Dudblockman> ... potentiometer
L65[02:32:30] <Dudblockman> It's a nice block to have
L66[02:33:28] <Dudblockman> Only thing I ever install draconic evolution for. I have a strong distaste for the mod's guiding principles
L67[02:34:03] <Izaya> what, "INFINITE POWER!!!"?
L68[02:34:29] <Dudblockman> Bigger numbers than every other mod.
L69[02:34:39] <Dudblockman> Because bigger numbers
L70[02:34:49] * Izaya nods
L71[02:34:50] <Izaya> power creep
L72[02:35:57] <Dudblockman> My favorite bit was when DE got upset over Avarita (a parody of mods like DE) being more powerful, so DE bumped itself even higher in return
L73[02:36:49] <Dudblockman> Oh no something parodied me by being even more powerful. Guess I should try to make myself stronger than it.
L74[02:37:20] <Dudblockman> ?
L75[02:37:34] <Izaya> I suspect the humor was lost along the way
L76[02:37:54] <Dudblockman> Where was I got sidetracked by big numbers the mod
L77[02:39:26] <Dudblockman> The compressed device is smaller and uses less redstone ios by utilizing 3 faces of each io
L78[02:40:06] <Dudblockman> The dust is in a zigzag so I would need to edit the psi spell to account for the zig
L79[02:40:44] <Dudblockman> But I think that the end result is quite beautiful
L80[02:42:18] <Dudblockman> The spell reads the nibbles starting from the most significant nibble down to the least significant nibble
L81[02:43:32] <Dudblockman> This is the OC code I used back when it was just a single int https://pastebin.com/TbqMXzDn
L82[02:44:07] <Dudblockman> I'm still working with the full vector system... I haven't really polished it to my liking yet
L83[02:44:56] <Dudblockman> You can see on line 14
L84[02:45:02] <Dudblockman> math.floor(math.abs(2*input+0.5))
L85[02:46:25] <Dudblockman> It converts negative numbers to odd numbers, positive numbers to even numbers
L86[02:47:22] <Dudblockman> And the spell does the opposite
L87[02:47:32] <Dudblockman> Odd results in negative
L88[02:47:43] <Dudblockman> Even results in positive
L89[02:48:15] <Dudblockman> Least significant bit represents the sign, the rest of the bits represent the magnitude
L90[02:49:16] <Dudblockman> ... it's quite late
L91[02:49:39] <Dudblockman> I should probably zzzz
L92[02:49:52] <Izaya> o7
L93[02:50:11] <Izaya> I'm a bit busy to MC for the next week or so but I'll look into trying it out
L94[02:51:02] <Dudblockman> It's a quirky mod
L95[02:51:14] <Dudblockman> Like you think it's just programming
L96[02:51:14] <Izaya> I've used it before
L97[02:51:27] <Izaya> Mahouka was a fun series so I tried it out around 1.10
L98[02:52:43] <Dudblockman> I'm the kind of guy who ended up making spells capable of accelerating arrows in such a way that I can hit a target at 350 meters like this
L99[02:52:46] <Dudblockman> https://i.imgur.com/Xioxok4.png
L100[02:53:17] <Dudblockman> With enough momentum behind the arrow to 1-shot a player in enchanted diamond armor
L101[02:53:29] <Izaya> not bad at all
L102[02:54:12] <Dudblockman> Only reason I don't rate it past 350 meters is because beyond that range there will be unloaded chunks
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L105[02:55:07] <Dudblockman> If you are in SMP, and even then 350 meters is the most I can expect between two players with zero unloaded chunks between them
L106[02:55:39] <Izaya> depends on the server settings, one imagines
L107[02:56:08] <Dudblockman> If a server bumps it up beyond the 10 chunk default... yeah
L108[02:56:40] <Izaya> >running python runs python 2
L109[02:56:54] <Izaya> it's 2018 python 3 has been a thing for like 10 years why is 'python' still a symlink to 'python2'
L110[02:56:56] <Izaya> ree
L111[02:57:24] <Dudblockman> Because the US still uses the imperial system
L112[02:57:27] <Dudblockman> ?
L113[02:57:52] <Izaya> can I blame python for that
L114[02:58:00] <Dudblockman> Sure
L115[02:58:08] <Izaya> that makes me happier
L116[02:58:21] <Dudblockman> Thanks Obama.
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L120[04:04:57] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: attach metal to desk to increase structual integrity
L121[04:12:47] <Lizzy> thanks MichiBot
L122[04:15:03] <Corded> * <Forecaster> duct tapes a piece of metal to desk
L123[04:16:00] <Lizzy> don't need to duct tape anything, just gonna add the small but of metal i've got so that the weight of the monitors is spread across a wider area
L124[04:16:51] <Lizzy> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/354835724907970561/517326029891567647/IMG_20181127_192413.jpg you can see the bowing of the top desk quite easilly
L125[04:17:32] <Forecaster> :P
L126[04:18:28] <Izaya> ah man
L127[04:20:44] <Izaya> oh man the Windows 10 start menu is so great /s
L128[04:20:47] <Izaya> >search for partition
L129[04:20:49] <Izaya> >no results
L130[04:21:00] <Izaya> >Create and Manage Hard Disk Partitions is an entry in the menu
L131[04:21:55] <Izaya> don't get me wrong the Windows search has never been great but at one point it was remotely competent
L132[04:22:46] <Lizzy> or when you type the name of something slightly incorrectly and hit enter before you see the mistake so it searches bing for it
L133[04:23:44] <Izaya> I've always been fond of >change the entries when you press enter so what you selected is different, but only once you press enter
L134[04:24:44] <Lizzy> i don't think i've had that happen to me directly, but i've had it before where 1 character is enough to change what it finds
L135[04:31:06] * Izaya waits for the server to unfreeze
L136[04:32:21] <Izaya> I don't understand, it has 4GB of memory (absolute fucktonnes) and plenty of disk space, why the fuck is it frozen
L137[04:36:09] <Izaya> s/frozen/repeatedly freezing approximately every time I click anything even if that anything is literally typing values into a dialog box
L138[04:36:11] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I don't understand, it has 4GB of memory (absolute fucktonnes) and plenty of disk space, why the fuck is it repeatedly freezing approximately every time I click anything even if that anything is literally typing values into a dialog box
L139[04:36:28] <Izaya> this kills the Izaya
L140[04:37:33] <Izaya> >Task Manager (Not Responding)
L141[04:37:34] <Izaya> wonderful
L142[05:23:57] <Bob> *Microsoft Windows has stopped working*
L143[05:25:42] <Forecaster> that's just a bluescreen
L144[05:26:08] <Bob> *Every other app, works*
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L146[06:24:13] <Inari> %choose a or b
L147[06:24:14] <MichiBot> Inari: Why not both?
L148[06:24:24] <Inari> MichiBot: You're not being helpful you know
L149[06:24:31] <Inari> %choose a or b
L150[06:24:31] <MichiBot> Inari: b is for cool kids!
L151[06:24:38] <Inari> Riiight
L152[06:24:55] <Inari> When you substitute two choices ofr "a" and "b" but then realize you didn't decide which choice is which
L153[06:31:23] <Forecaster> haha
L154[06:33:01] <Inari> %choose a or b
L155[06:33:01] <MichiBot> Inari: b is for cool kids!
L156[07:08:05] <Kodos> %tonk
L157[07:08:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
L158[07:08:09] <MichiBot> 10 hours, 36 minutes and 41 seconds were wasted!
L159[07:08:14] <Kodos> Rekt
L160[08:29:22] <McMaarten> Where can I find the FS of OCemu
L161[08:33:06] <McMaarten> nvm found it: `%appdata%\OCEmu\`
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L163[08:35:01] <Jeff> yeet
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L165[08:41:00] <McMaarten> Can that be changed by force in OCEmu http://tinyurl.com/yba5d9ay
L166[08:45:47] <Lizzian> it can, though you need to make sure it's using the tier 3 components, not tier 2 (as it looks from that screenshot)
L167[09:59:40] <Compu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-WVlRohQk
L168[09:59:41] <MichiBot> Neil Cicierega - Smooth | length: 4m 18s | Likes: 15,948 Dislikes: 302 Views: 1,483,810 | by NeilCicieregaMusic | Published On 24/1/2017
L169[10:27:28] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/9z8bzx/or_you_can_just_use_a_mold/ l-lewd
L170[10:34:57] <ZefTheFox> That's disgusting lol
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L183[12:57:21] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L184[12:57:21] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with LKW. 10 health gained!
L185[12:59:32] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel: https://imgur.com/0MC4MzA
L186[13:01:45] <AmandaC> %choose halucinate or play
L187[13:01:46] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Out of these two choices? I'd say play.
L188[13:10:01] <Inari> Temia: https://imgur.com/gallery/wrbScLq
L189[13:16:04] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/3DNJ5WI the heck
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L191[13:20:21] <Forecaster> that doesn't look safe
L192[13:31:03] <Izaya> why is powershell so incredibly shit
L193[13:31:12] <Izaya> >string is wrapped in ""
L194[13:31:22] <Izaya> >string is missing terminator "
L195[13:31:50] <Izaya> >actually caused by something unrelated
L196[13:31:52] <Izaya> great
L197[13:32:01] <Inari> ?
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L202[14:32:57] <Bob> ?
L203[14:37:05] <payonel> Izaya: why are you windows'ing?
L204[14:37:18] <Izaya> certifications
L205[14:37:30] <payonel> like A+ certs?
L206[14:37:35] <Izaya> something like that
L207[14:37:37] <payonel> what certs?
L208[14:37:46] <Izaya> though presently it seems I'm being certified as insane
L209[14:38:02] <payonel> ha
L210[14:39:15] <Izaya> cert 4 networking via TAFE, though
L211[14:39:25] <Izaya> which means I have to be able to deal with Windows server
L212[14:39:32] <Izaya> which makes me want to die
L213[14:45:46] * dequbed hands Izaya more chocolate and coffee
L214[14:46:03] <dequbed> Don't die, I still need you q.q
L215[14:46:40] <Izaya> https://s3.wasabisys.com/sergal-assets/media_attachments/files/000/667/100/original/7b4f82ce120dc6ca.jpg
L216[14:48:22] <payonel> Izaya: can i interrupt you for a sec?
L217[14:48:27] <Izaya> please do
L218[14:48:51] <payonel> i'm trying to remove timeout loops from my socket code
L219[14:49:24] <payonel> i've decided lib.connect and lib.accept return sockets right away
L220[14:49:38] <payonel> but they are not "connected" yet, they haven't finished handshakes
L221[14:49:55] <payonel> you can call s:wait([timeout]) to wait for it to connect
L222[14:50:01] <payonel> and s:wait(0) is a no-wait check
L223[14:50:03] <payonel> thoughts?
L224[14:50:31] <payonel> lib.accept(0), btw, returns falsey if no pending socket connection is in queue
L225[14:50:40] <Izaya> interesting
L226[14:50:53] <dequbed> s:wait(-1) for blocking wait?
L227[14:50:54] <payonel> but lib.connect returns a socket immediately (if the params and hardware agrees)
L228[14:51:01] <payonel> no s:wait() blocks
L229[14:51:07] <payonel> defaults to math.huge
L230[14:51:13] <dequbed> Ah okay
L231[14:51:21] <payonel> and all of this can safely be killed in a thread
L232[14:51:26] <payonel> (or a coroutine you never resume)
L233[14:51:42] <payonel> my first draft had blocking connect and accept calls
L234[14:51:49] <payonel> i've decided to move that out to a wait call
L235[14:52:34] <payonel> one of the reasons was because lib.accept essentially had two timeouts
L236[14:52:38] <payonel> and i thought that was ugly
L237[14:52:54] <payonel> so i decided lib.connect and lib.accept both return a "new" socket, that hasn't completed a handshake
L238[14:53:05] <payonel> that is, the socket state from lib.connect and lib.accept is the same
L239[14:53:09] <payonel> i.e. "new"
L240[14:53:36] <payonel> there are events being pushed, too. none of this has to be blocking
L241[14:53:54] <payonel> but this also gives client code the ability to do things like, print "connecting..."
L242[14:54:24] <payonel> and, nicely, wait() returns when it gets "interrupted" event
L243[14:54:36] <payonel> another thing that makes client code play nice
L244[14:55:38] <Izaya> it's an interesting way to do it
L245[14:57:45] <payonel> Izaya: you would prefer connect and accept to block?
L246[14:57:58] <Izaya> no, no
L247[14:58:17] <Izaya> besides when I wrap it with minitel I can make them do that anyway
L248[14:58:31] <payonel> well sure :P
L249[14:58:35] <payonel> but i mean, as a user
L250[14:58:52] <Izaya> from a programmer standpoint I think it's a nice feature
L251[14:58:53] <payonel> i think people except accept() to block until it has a socket
L252[14:59:07] <payonel> and it does, it's just that...the sockets are not ready yet
L253[14:59:16] <Izaya> well
L254[14:59:22] <Izaya> with uh
L255[14:59:24] <Izaya> Luasocket
L256[14:59:33] <payonel> mmhmm
L257[14:59:37] <Izaya> (I think, it's been a while)
L258[14:59:43] <Izaya> you create a socket then you have to tell it to connect
L259[14:59:58] <Izaya> I don't think it's hugely different than that
L260[15:00:30] <payonel> yeah, my goal was to give user code cleaner control over creating a resouce and knowing when it is ready
L261[15:03:36] <ZefTheFox> So I have two ideas on how to make an ibm 5150 case http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2013/10/e8ec1775-3f97-42d5-8053-3341ac4fa79a.jpg
L262[15:03:42] <payonel> rather than just "more params"
L263[15:03:42] <payonel> so that's nice
L264[15:03:42] <payonel> all of this really is about the library api, the protocol is good as is though
L265[15:03:42] <payonel> i even played with a callback option, where a connection could be canceled by a user provided predicate
L266[15:03:42] <payonel> it worked, but, was not intuitive
L267[15:04:18] <ZefTheFox> One I could just have the case be like a slab on the bottom half of the block, or I can try to lift it up and put it on a fake half slab of oak or something
L268[15:05:14] <Izaya> payonel: so the wait is moved out of the establishing for cleanliness, right?
L269[15:09:10] <payonel> that, but because i had a lot of user code i was writing that wanted interactive control over waiting
L270[15:09:16] <payonel> or, more feedback about the connection
L271[15:10:24] * Izaya nods
L272[15:10:33] <Izaya> I like it.
L273[15:11:00] <ZefTheFox> I made a diagram of what I was talking about http://tinyurl.com/y9h9bho4
L274[15:11:09] <Izaya> I hadn't really considered doing it that way before.
L275[15:11:12] * Izaya hmms
L276[15:11:19] <Izaya> dequbed: https://old.lwn.net/Articles/745946/
L277[15:13:11] <Izaya> ZefTheFox: https://pleroma.soykaf.com/media/ed8ac210-6bc5-4e7a-95a7-cadba70c2302/VIW.jpg
L278[15:14:42] <ZefTheFox> Is that a fucking laserdisk player on a computer?
L279[15:14:47] <Izaya> yes
L280[15:14:53] <ZefTheFox> That is amazing
L281[15:14:54] <Izaya> well
L282[15:14:55] <Izaya> I think so
L283[15:15:15] <ZefTheFox> It's got a laser warning sticker so it wouldn't be tape
L284[15:15:28] <Izaya> I mean the computer is sony branded and you could get LD players on stuff way back to 8-bit gear
L285[15:15:41] <ZefTheFox> Honestly why though?
L286[15:15:53] <Izaya> that picture or the older ones?
L287[15:15:53] <ZefTheFox> You can't write to them, at least as far as I know
L288[15:16:09] <ZefTheFox> Laserdisks
L289[15:16:10] <Izaya> because the older ones were for a geographical survey of the UK published by the BBC
L290[15:16:30] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Domesday_Project
L291[15:16:55] <ZefTheFox> Oh wow that's cool
L292[15:17:20] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FixpAY5YADc
L293[15:17:20] <MichiBot> Walk Around an 80s City with LASERDISC! The Domesday Project | Nostalgia Nerd | length: 26m 33s | Likes: 3,759 Dislikes: 80 Views: 91,857 | by Nostalgia Nerd | Published On 21/11/2018
L294[15:17:41] <ZefTheFox> Oh yeah I never watched that video lol
L295[15:17:50] <Izaya> I feel like "why" is the wrong question
L296[15:18:12] <ZefTheFox> I guess so lol
L297[15:18:44] <Izaya> on the other hand
L298[15:18:55] <ZefTheFox> 300mb per side
L299[15:18:58] <Izaya> a LD player on something like that 486-looking thing
L300[15:19:19] <Izaya> that I don't really get
L301[15:19:30] <Izaya> there were very few LD products published
L302[15:19:34] <ZefTheFox> I'm not sure if a standard computer of that time would really be that capable to manage a laserdisk
L303[15:19:45] <Izaya> hey if a BBC B could do it
L304[15:20:08] <Izaya> chances are it's just controlling the player and maybe reading data, rather than actually playing the thing
L305[15:20:20] <Izaya> like CD audio
L306[15:20:22] <ZefTheFox> That'd make sense
L307[15:20:25] <MGR> Laser Discs were cool
L308[15:21:05] <ZefTheFox> I normally like a ton of formats
L309[15:21:05] <Izaya> the whole setup is just so ... unneccesary though
L310[15:21:11] <ZefTheFox> but laserdisks are ones I don't like
L311[15:22:14] <ZefTheFox> Duudddeeee
L312[15:23:35] <ZefTheFox> actually that probably wouldn't work
L313[15:23:50] <ZefTheFox> I was thinking like replace the models of the servers to make it look like a system 360
L314[16:05:37] <dequbed> Izaya: seL4 is old news :p
L315[16:10:40] <Izaya> dequbed: sure, but I thought the article was interesting
L316[16:12:42] <dequbed> It sure is :p
L317[16:13:31] <Izaya> seL4 on RISC-V soon
L318[16:23:20] <AngelOfDeath> is it possable to use mysql with opencomputers ?
L319[16:24:15] <Izaya> if you write the client software, sure
L320[16:25:01] <CompanionCube> heh, S/360
L321[16:25:27] <CompanionCube> would work better if there was a actual 'mainframe' thing, but not sure how that'd be different from servers
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L324[16:33:26] <ZefTheFox> My newest case model is 32x32 owo
L325[16:33:31] <ZefTheFox> (textures anyways)
L326[16:41:05] <CompanionCube> ZefTheFox: modern IBM case models look sweetass too
L327[16:41:07] <CompanionCube> see: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/5things/resource/BLOGS_UPLOADED_IMAGES/z14M0xandZR1.png
L328[16:42:32] <Forecaster> ooh
L329[16:43:00] <Forecaster> that kind of makes me want one, although I have told myself I'm going to get rid of my case entierly next refurbishing
L330[16:43:30] <CompanionCube> lol
L331[16:43:39] <CompanionCube> glhf putting a mainframe in your house
L332[16:44:21] <CompanionCube> apparently a z14 costs like $20k
L333[16:49:43] <AmandaC> @status @Dudblockman
L334[16:49:43] <Discord> Dudblockman is currently ONLINE
L335[16:49:55] <AmandaC> @Dudblockman Are you /u/dudblockman?
L336[16:50:05] <Dudblockman> Yeah
L337[16:50:11] <AmandaC> https://www.reddit.com/r/psispellcompendium/comments/8yzadl/fulton_remastered/ this is amazing, I approve. :D
L338[16:50:45] <AmandaC> considering putting a hopper-type thing on the roof of my base and using that to just send shit into my RS
L339[16:51:04] <Dudblockman> Its quite fun to do that lol
L340[16:56:32] <Forecaster> @CompanionCube I mean a regular case :P
L341[16:57:15] <AmandaC> Took me a couple times to figure out it's only meant for items though.
L342[17:01:01] <AngelOfDeath> can i not use a command block with opencomuters
L343[17:05:02] <Mimiru> if it's enabled in the OC config you can interface with them via the adapter @"AngelOfDeath"
L344[17:05:29] <AngelOfDeath> thank you i found it
L345[17:16:57] <AngelOfDeath> .setcommand(/viewbalance character) ? is this wrong
L346[17:23:06] * Mimiru shrugs
L347[17:23:12] <Mimiru> maybe? :P
L348[17:26:06] <AngelOfDeath> missing""
L349[17:26:09] <AngelOfDeath> got it
L350[17:35:03] <ZefTheFox> They kinda do, not my thing though
L351[17:44:58] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ycvossp7
L352[17:45:17] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y7s2y34e
L353[17:46:13] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y9wfmbx2
L354[17:46:16] <ZefTheFox> and difference between off and on
L355[17:52:17] <ZefTheFox> I think this is my favorite one so far
L356[18:06:06] <Tako> https://i.imgur.com/brcXWJl.png
L357[18:06:17] <Tako> why does my OC computer doesnt compute?
L358[18:09:34] <CompanionCube> nice looking building
L359[18:14:18] <Forecaster> needs more ram probably
L360[18:18:28] <Alex404> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/minecraft-virtual-machines
L361[18:18:44] <Alex404> this mod uses oc textures, and doesnt list oc in his dependencies
L362[18:18:49] <Alex404> I'm pretty confused by it
L363[18:19:32] <Alex404> Does some compatibility exist between the two mods?
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L365[18:30:21] <Forecaster> @Alex404 what textures do you mean?
L366[18:33:02] <ZefTheFox> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1774-release-custom-cases-for-oc/
L367[18:33:33] <ZefTheFox> Considering those are the **only** images they show
L368[18:33:43] <ZefTheFox> There is a chance that those textures are stolen
L369[18:34:49] <ZefTheFox> https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/240/253/2018-11-04_22.png
L370[18:35:09] <ZefTheFox> Considering those are the textures in the empty slots I'd be sure those are taken
L371[18:35:21] <Forecaster> I downloaded the jar and checked it and the ram and disk textures are included as assets
L372[18:35:39] <ZefTheFox> What's the licensing for the textures?
L373[18:35:52] <Forecaster> same as the rest of the mod
L374[18:36:09] <ZefTheFox> Free to use and redistribute how you want
L375[18:36:24] <ZefTheFox> That use is kinda scummy but I think that's within the licensing
L376[18:36:42] <Forecaster> well, it's that, but you're supposed to keep that license
L377[18:36:58] <Forecaster> it's creative commons
L378[18:37:17] <ZefTheFox> Does creative commons require any credit to be given?
L379[18:37:21] <Forecaster> MVM is `All Rights Reserved unless otherwise explicitly stated` which I think is against the license
L380[18:37:53] <ZefTheFox> Yeah, I think that would be
L381[18:38:07] <ZefTheFox> I'm not a lawyer though
L382[18:38:07] <ZefTheFox> lol
L383[18:38:35] <Forecaster> MVM doesn't have a license in the jar
L384[18:38:45] <Forecaster> it's just the note on curseforge
L385[18:38:55] <ZefTheFox> I saw that
L386[18:39:47] <ZefTheFox> Would leave it to the authors of OC to decide what to do
L387[18:40:14] <ZefTheFox> Theres someone listed as an artist
L388[18:40:37] <Forecaster> against a mod with < 500 downloads compared to OC's 12 million? probably nothing :P
L389[18:40:43] <Alex404> I'm sure I have seen the owner of that mod here
L390[18:40:52] <Alex404> so I guess there are accords but still
L391[18:41:22] <ZefTheFox> They *are* in here
L392[18:41:29] <ZefTheFox> Craft4Cube
L393[18:41:31] <Alex404> using both at the same time would be horrible
L394[18:41:56] <ZefTheFox> It seems to be an x86 computer inside minecraft
L395[18:41:58] <Izaya> that would get confusing x_x
L396[18:42:03] <ZefTheFox> that'd just be awful for performance
L397[18:42:08] <Izaya> probably more like a qemu interface
L398[18:42:12] <Alex404> my point exactly
L399[18:42:28] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y95rtdtb
L400[18:42:39] <ZefTheFox> They're giving instructions for using real iso files
L401[18:42:40] <CompanionCube> wouldn't that be rather insecure?
L402[18:42:54] <Izaya> eeeh
L403[18:42:56] <Izaya> maybe
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L405[18:43:20] <Izaya> I think the resource usage would be a bigger showstopper
L406[18:43:28] <ZefTheFox> I'm gonna try to use xp on it lol
L407[18:43:40] <CompanionCube> if nothing else you could likely DoS it to high hell.
L408[18:43:57] <Izaya> yeah
L409[18:44:44] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ydg7xl6s
L410[18:44:52] <ZefTheFox> it downloads libraries and stuff when you first laungh
L411[18:45:01] <Izaya> got a URL for that?
L412[18:45:10] <ZefTheFox> No idea
L413[18:45:14] <Alex404> and ask for internet and firewall access in game
L414[18:45:17] <CompanionCube> now
L415[18:45:23] <Izaya> should be in the log
L416[18:45:24] <CompanionCube> where did i put my lovely decompiler...
L417[18:45:35] <ZefTheFox> I will check the log
L418[18:45:51] <ZefTheFox> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/notohamito
L419[18:45:52] <ZefTheFox> It's logging this
L420[18:45:57] <Forecaster> uuh
L421[18:46:16] <Mimiru> very glad that gets pastebinned
L422[18:46:26] <Izaya> quality
L423[18:46:46] <ZefTheFox> The *only* url in there is from forge
L424[18:46:58] <CompanionCube> assets/mcvm/recipes/hdd128gb.json
L425[18:47:15] <CompanionCube> the NICs are the e1000, rt8139, ne2k
L426[18:47:22] <ZefTheFox> ***why is it making 128gb hard drives***
L427[18:47:28] <ZefTheFox> jesus christ
L428[18:47:54] <Izaya> could be bochs
L429[18:47:57] <CompanionCube> https://gist.github.com/samis/b09280f9be2413ebe72b64187bd9af69
L430[18:48:04] <CompanionCube> this is the content of the .jar
L431[18:48:58] <ZefTheFox> is .li a common extension?
L432[18:49:13] <CompanionCube> .li?
L433[18:49:24] <CompanionCube> in what context?
L434[18:49:31] <ZefTheFox> 1095 11-14-2018 22:09 li/netcube/mcvm/util/UnZipHelper.class
L435[18:49:42] <CompanionCube> it's certainly a TLD
L436[18:49:44] <ZefTheFox> There's a bunch of files with li as the first part of the directory
L437[18:49:50] <CompanionCube> not a paritcularly common on though
L438[18:50:07] <Izaya> you know I'd be more interested in this if it gave you like 64M of memory tops and a 4GB disk tops
L439[18:50:24] <CompanionCube> apparently they have an actual website...that needs JS.
L440[18:50:25] <ZefTheFox> That'd be *much* more reasonable
L441[18:50:32] <ZefTheFox> ew javascript
L442[18:50:54] <CompanionCube> ...and enabling JS gave me a download prompt for a 50M livewallpaperengine archive
L443[18:51:18] <ZefTheFox> wtf
L444[18:51:35] <ZefTheFox> Where is this website?
L445[18:51:35] <CompanionCube> after doing that
L446[18:51:38] <CompanionCube> 'NetCUBE Server
L447[18:51:38] <CompanionCube> Updates and Information about the Server
L448[18:51:49] <CompanionCube> they run MC and Gmod.
L449[18:52:07] <CompanionCube> have infoboxes for various programs they made(?)
L450[18:52:10] <ZefTheFox> strange
L451[18:53:06] <CompanionCube> a launcher, a server manager thingy, a crappy web file manager, a vanilla server creator thingy, two wallpaper programs, a JS/HTML5 Keyboard, and a random benchmarking thing.
L452[18:53:40] <ZefTheFox> *if they're all in java I'm done*
L453[18:53:48] <ZefTheFox> lol
L454[18:54:02] <Izaya> java gives the JVM a bad name
L455[18:54:24] <CompanionCube> the server specs are...visible
L456[18:54:41] <ZefTheFox> interesting
L457[18:54:44] <CompanionCube> 2.2GHz CPU, 24GB RAM, 6.7G in use
L458[18:54:53] <CompanionCube> 5% CPU usage (yeah right :p)
L459[18:54:53] <ZefTheFox> He's on this discord
L460[18:55:52] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y87z8vor
L461[18:56:03] <ZefTheFox> They fudged the "printed circuit board" texture
L462[18:56:14] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/yb9xhh6v
L463[18:56:23] <ZefTheFox> That looks pretty close to another texture I know...
L464[18:56:40] <Izaya> I like the CD
L465[18:56:47] <CompanionCube> ohey
L466[18:56:50] <CompanionCube> in the mcmod info
L467[18:57:11] <CompanionCube> https://gist.github.com/samis/720d13ae16f764ce724b42ef6c5bff47
L468[18:57:26] <Izaya> but does it use KVM on loonix?
L469[18:57:41] * CompanionCube needs to obtain java decompiler first
L470[18:57:42] <Izaya> otherwise it's wasting CPU cycles
L471[18:57:45] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/yb7htnr9
L472[18:57:45] <ZefTheFox> hmmm
L473[18:58:18] <Izaya> USB rechargeable what
L474[18:58:54] <ZefTheFox> USB rechargeable flame lamp teardown (with schematic).
L475[18:58:58] <ZefTheFox> BigClive
L476[18:59:01] <Izaya> neat
L477[18:59:30] <CompanionCube> ohwait
L478[18:59:38] <CompanionCube> I forgot I already have a decompiler in ~/src
L479[18:59:47] <Izaya> ez
L480[19:00:25] <ZefTheFox> jesus christ
L481[19:00:28] <ZefTheFox> I'm installing xp
L482[19:00:30] * CompanionCube takes it from the top - MCVM.class
L483[19:00:46] <Izaya> >no source available
L484[19:00:48] <Izaya> trash
L485[19:01:08] <Izaya> Zef: is your custom cases fork somewhere accessible?
L486[19:01:09] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ain't it great that Java decompiles clean af though?
L487[19:01:16] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I guess :D
L488[19:01:28] <ZefTheFox> No its not accessable, should I make it?
L489[19:01:38] <CompanionCube> so
L490[19:01:45] <CompanionCube> they download the redist from fixed urls
L491[19:01:57] <CompanionCube> protected via HTTPS (good) and with an MD5 checksum (lol)
L492[19:02:02] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y95ynxj2
L493[19:02:10] <ZefTheFox> why can I do this
L494[19:02:23] <CompanionCube> https://netcube.li/mcvm/mcvmRedistWin.zip https://netcube.li/mcvm/mcvmRedistLinux.zip
L495[19:02:34] <Izaya> Zef: I'm guessing it's a few lines of code, some model JSONs and some textures?
L496[19:02:52] <ZefTheFox> 4 lines of code, and yes
L497[19:03:14] <ZefTheFox> Just to make the render engine not have a stroke when the case isn't a full block
L498[19:03:21] <Izaya> ha
L499[19:03:34] <Izaya> well, I'm sure someone would have a good use for the models
L500[19:03:42] <CompanionCube> well the
L501[19:03:44] <CompanionCube> lol
L502[19:03:51] <CompanionCube> the DisplayGUI class breaks jd-gui]
L503[19:05:05] <CompanionCube> the VMs are stored as .qcow2 files
L504[19:05:30] <ZefTheFox> I was about to say that
L505[19:06:44] <CompanionCube> presented without comment: https://gist.github.com/samis/deec8664f06ea962e50e70f4c65f60bb
L506[19:07:13] <CompanionCube> I don't know what that password is used for...but that looks like a shitty algo to make one.
L507[19:07:24] <ZefTheFox> wtf
L508[19:07:36] <Izaya> now what does ... everyone say?
L509[19:07:37] <ZefTheFox> that is incredibly shitty
L510[19:07:41] <Izaya> never roll your own crypto
L511[19:07:46] <Izaya> especially if this is what you call crypto
L512[19:08:12] <CompanionCube> betcha $10 it's the VNC password.
L513[19:08:26] <Izaya> so you could steal people's VNC sessions? neat
L514[19:09:14] <CompanionCube> I mean, this is the context:
L515[19:09:16] <CompanionCube> https://gist.github.com/samis/48eaf0c9ec02f99803d9896ea9098dc7
L516[19:10:01] <ZefTheFox> and where is that password used?
L517[19:10:09] <CompanionCube> good questino
L518[19:10:20] <CompanionCube> that's something i'm going to find out.
L519[19:10:46] <ZefTheFox> also seems like a really good place for desyncrinization to occur between client/server
L520[19:10:55] <ZefTheFox> not that you would *ever* want to run this on a server
L521[19:11:05] <CompanionCube> 'public VirtualMachine vm = new VirtualMachine(this, this.UID.intValue(), this.PASSWD, "4M", null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null);'
L522[19:11:24] <CompanionCube> i'll get to that class later
L523[19:11:54] <CompanionCube> TCPClient is a pointless socket wrapper class.
L524[19:13:35] <ZefTheFox> weird
L525[19:13:48] <ZefTheFox> *wait is the password the filename*
L526[19:14:13] <CompanionCube> well, there's no external VNC server
L527[19:14:18] <CompanionCube> just QEMU's built-in suppot
L528[19:14:22] <CompanionCube> *built-in support
L529[19:14:30] <Izaya> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtWBOI0UwAUwG44.jpg
L530[19:14:41] <CompanionCube> also,
L531[19:14:53] <CompanionCube> 'this.monitor.getOutputStream().write("change vnc password\n".getBytes("UTF-8")); this.monitor.getOutputStream().write((this.password + "\n").getBytes("UTF-8"));'
L532[19:15:05] <CompanionCube> monitor in this case is no screen - it's the QEMU Monitor.
L533[19:15:43] <ZefTheFox> weird
L534[19:15:52] <ZefTheFox> Should I tag the creator of this mod?
L535[19:16:02] <CompanionCube> so yeah, it really is the VNC Password.
L536[19:16:18] <ZefTheFox> and see what their input is
L537[19:16:45] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 'this.monitor.getOutputStream().write(("change floppy0 \"" + this.floppy0.toString().replace("\\", "\\\\") + "\"\n").getBytes("UTF-8"));' is it just me or might this be amenable to command injection?
L538[19:17:01] <Izaya> sounds like :D
L539[19:17:19] <ZefTheFox> that is incredible
L540[19:18:26] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also
L541[19:18:32] <CompanionCube> it does indeed not use KVM
L542[19:18:37] <Izaya> blegh
L543[19:18:37] <CompanionCube> or any form of accleration whatsoever.
L544[19:18:42] <Izaya> eeeeegh
L545[19:20:21] <ZefTheFox> craft4cube is offline on discord right now
L546[19:20:22] <CompanionCube> https://pastebin.com/PKUdFvQ1 take a look yourself.
L547[19:24:16] * CompanionCube grabs the redist to see what version of QEMU they use
L548[19:28:54] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 'Creates a Compact Disk Item from an ISO File The path is relative to the game/server folder (e.g. shared/test.iso > .minecraft/shared/test.iso)'
L549[19:29:06] <CompanionCube> can you guess why i think this sounds like a bad ide
L550[19:30:41] <Izaya> enlighten me
L551[19:30:45] <ZefTheFox> Wait could you do `..` and go a directory higher?
L552[19:31:09] <ZefTheFox> That would be increadibly bad
L553[19:32:33] <Izaya> kek
L554[19:33:25] <CompanionCube> in theory, yes...but the code's command appends a file extension
L555[19:33:57] <CompanionCube> 'String filename = DimensionManager.getCurrentSaveRootDirectory() + server.func_71270_I() + "/" + args[0] + ".iso";'
L556[19:35:02] <ZefTheFox> So it makes the string `/[what you entered].iso`
L557[19:35:21] <ZefTheFox> which means you couldn't go up a directory
L558[19:35:40] <CompanionCube> of course you could
L559[19:35:47] <CompanionCube> '/../../../whatever.iso'
L560[19:36:14] <CompanionCube> of course, it's rather useless unless you have sensitive .iso files lying around.
L561[19:36:55] <Izaya> '/../../../whatever.txt iso'
L562[19:36:59] <Izaya> but somehow I don't think that'd work
L563[19:37:14] <CompanionCube> I think you'd just get an error.
L564[19:37:57] <ZefTheFox> I'm sad, nobody commented on my thing ><
L565[19:38:49] * CompanionCube should get a MC instance with this mod running
L566[19:38:54] <CompanionCube> then try to 'sploit it :3
L567[19:39:34] <ZefTheFox> then tag the mod creator with the proof of exploiting
L568[19:39:57] <Izaya> then they can fix it :D
L569[19:40:16] <Izaya> I don't expect too many servers would be running that mod, considering
L570[19:40:36] <ZefTheFox> There are soooooo many places for that to be shitty on servers
L571[19:40:41] <ZefTheFox> *and shitty in sp*
L572[19:40:46] <Izaya> well I mean
L573[19:40:50] <Izaya> just the potential resource usage
L574[19:40:54] <Izaya> not a good time
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L579[19:43:58] <Izaya> %flip hahahahahaha
L580[19:43:58] <MichiBot> Izaya: (╯°□°)╯ɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥ
L581[19:44:15] <ZefTheFox> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L582[19:44:26] <ZefTheFox> lol I wonder how that appears on irc
L583[19:44:53] <CompanionCube> as normal Unicode?
L584[19:45:31] <ZefTheFox> I was wondering if it would show up as \/shrug because thats the command to do it on discord
L585[19:46:58] <CompanionCube> redist is downloading
L586[19:47:33] <ZefTheFox> https://i.redd.it/ttbbigqc6p121.jpg
L587[19:47:37] <ZefTheFox> I need this
L588[19:53:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya: slight problem
L589[19:53:43] <CompanionCube> the redist doesn't seem to include an actual QEMU binary.
L590[19:54:09] <Izaya> hrm
L591[19:54:38] <CompanionCube> maybe the windows one does
L592[19:54:43] <CompanionCube> but I don't run windows
L593[19:56:57] <Izaya> probably assumes that loonix users have qemu installed
L594[19:57:05] <Izaya> reasonable, but then you should assume that they'd have kvm too
L595[19:57:16] <CompanionCube> Izaya: if they do, then said code doesn't work
L596[19:57:42] <CompanionCube> given /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 is a thing
L597[19:58:31] <CompanionCube> yep.
L598[19:58:59] <CompanionCube> https://gist.github.com/samis/34d241128242e0a859097f2b21de4dd5
L599[20:03:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ah, it does in fact just use the system one
L600[20:03:30] <CompanionCube> ...but there's no output so god only knows why it's not working
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L603[22:09:29] <simon816> %tonk
L604[22:09:30] <MichiBot> simon816! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 13 hours, 55 minutes and 30 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L605[22:09:31] <MichiBot> simon816's new record is 15 hours, 1 minute and 23 seconds
L606[22:09:39] <CompanionCube> finally!
L607[22:09:54] <simon816> was waiting for 15 hours :p
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