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L1[00:00:17] <Compu> ok, and can u use network cards with them?
L2[00:00:17] <Kleadron> CompanionCube idk
L3[00:00:29] <Compu> thinking of using them for wireless redstone and signal processing
L4[00:00:42] <Forecaster> You can
L5[00:00:58] <Compu> ok
L6[00:01:59] <Kleadron> technology has slowed down a lot and i don't know if that is a good or bad thing
L7[00:03:05] <Izaya> Maybe I should get some foam for my case
L8[00:03:22] <Izaya> wait no my door slides backwards that won't work
L9[00:03:36] <Kleadron> foam for what case, computer case? and why
L10[00:03:47] <Izaya> Noise reduction
L11[00:04:01] <Izaya> GTX 980 fan at full tilt sounds like a jet engine
L12[00:04:28] <Kleadron> not sure if foam would make it queiter, hinder the cooling or do absoloutly nothing and be a waste of money
L13[00:04:55] <Izaya> Neither am I
L14[00:04:57] <Kleadron> s/queiter/quieter
L15[00:04:57] <MichiBot> <Kleadron> not sure if foam would make it quieter, hinder the cooling or do absoloutly nothing and be a waste of money
L16[00:05:16] <Izaya> But it's a nonissue because I couldn't tape any to the inside of the door of my case anyway
L17[00:05:37] <Kleadron> can you lower the fan speed
L18[00:06:03] <Kleadron> or will it melt
L19[00:06:24] <Izaya> I can leave it on default I guess
L20[00:06:46] <Izaya> But it makes me happier to have it running at 60° than 80°
L21[00:07:14] <Izaya> I can't actually hear it with my headphones on but I'm not the only one in the house
L22[00:08:13] <Kleadron> make them wear headphones
L23[00:08:32] <Izaya> Dystopian. I like it.
L24[00:09:27] <Kleadron> Do you think i could just swap my motherboard for a better one with the exact same hardware and windows would complain
L25[00:10:01] <Kleadron> I want to get a motherboard with more slots
L26[00:10:17] <Kleadron> slots for ram, PCIe, you know
L27[00:10:22] <Izaya> Hm
L28[00:10:24] <Izaya> Depends
L29[00:10:34] <Izaya> I think it ties your key to your hardware
L30[00:10:39] <Kleadron> Im using windows 7
L31[00:10:43] <Kleadron> does windows 7 do that
L32[00:10:43] <Izaya> oh
L33[00:10:46] <Izaya> Probably fine then
L34[00:10:50] <Kleadron> cool and good
L35[00:10:55] <Izaya> And if not, just re-use your key
L36[00:11:05] <Izaya> And failing that, good ol' Windows Loader
L37[00:11:25] <Kleadron> I used a bat file to activate windows because this usb stick didnt have a key on it
L38[00:11:30] <Kleadron> i could just use the same file
L39[00:12:08] <Izaya> Sounds questionable but if it works it worka
L40[00:12:09] <Izaya> Works
L41[00:12:36] <Kleadron> Questionable to why the usb stick didnt come with a product key or the batch file
L42[00:13:29] <Izaya> I didn't think Microsoft sold flash drives with 7
L43[00:13:41] <Izaya> I thought it was a new thing with 8 or 10
L44[00:13:46] <Kleadron> Let me tell how how i even have this flash drive
L45[00:13:50] <Izaya> But Australia so...
L46[00:14:12] <Kleadron> A while ago my brother gave me his old computer, and a USB stick that said windows 8 on it, but it was windows 7 sp1
L47[00:14:26] <Kleadron> i was supposed to use the windows 7 to upgrade to windows 10 while it was free
L48[00:14:33] <Kleadron> and i did use windows 10 for a long time
L49[00:14:59] <Izaya> I'm sorry Kleadron
L50[00:15:01] <Izaya> You...
L51[00:15:12] <Kleadron> But then i learned how much windows 10 sucks
L52[00:15:14] <Izaya> You may be a victim of software counterfeiting
L53[00:15:23] <Kleadron> what
L54[00:15:53] <Izaya> Never seen that come up on unactivated Windows?
L55[00:16:16] <Izaya> It then tries to sell you on the 0 reasons you should actually pay for Windows as an individual
L56[00:16:34] <Kleadron> Yeah they gave the windows 10 upgrade to unactivated windows 7 computers and you could upgrade and get a pro license for free
L57[00:17:00] <Izaya> "upgrade"
L58[00:17:06] <Kleadron> oh right
L59[00:17:09] <Kleadron> windows 10 virus
L60[00:17:26] <Kleadron> well, the reason i have windows 7 now is with a failed dual boot experiment
L61[00:17:47] <Kleadron> i tried having them on seperate hard drives
L62[00:17:59] <Kleadron> windows 7 ate my windows 10 drive and wiped the user folder of its permissions
L63[00:18:55] <Kleadron> i didnt upgrade to windows 10 because i liked 7 more
L64[00:19:13] <Kleadron> Windows 7 also has a lot more custom themes
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L82[05:42:11] <Lizzian> %tonk
L83[05:42:13] <MichiBot> Lizzian! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 5 hours, 49 minutes and 6 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L84[05:42:14] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds
L85[05:42:16] <Lizzian> ?
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L90[07:13:36] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrkDdtPWoAAAyn4.jpg:large
L91[07:15:40] <Inari> Kachigumi Kachigumi
L92[07:15:41] <Inari> %tonk
L93[07:15:41] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Inari, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds this time.
L94[07:15:42] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 33 minutes and 29 seconds were wasted!
L95[07:16:25] <EcmaXp (SkyBox)> AAAAAA
L96[07:16:28] <EcmaXp (SkyBox)> i need go home
L97[07:16:30] <EcmaXp (SkyBox)> i hate lab
L98[07:16:31] <Inari> BBBBBB
L99[07:17:32] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1541698855100.jpg
L100[07:17:55] <Inari> Grats
L101[07:18:00] <Inari> Your PC's english broke
L102[07:18:26] <Fira> :thinking:
L103[07:18:45] <Inari> %pet Fira
L104[07:19:00] * Inari kicks MichiBot
L105[07:19:10] <Fira> Just spent my last 3 days or so debugging a Sponge/Forge issue on a live install, pls kill meeeh
L106[07:19:28] <Inari> %loot
L107[07:19:31] <Inari> %shrug
L108[07:19:32] <MichiBot> Inari: No you shrug!
L109[07:19:35] <Inari> ¬_¬
L110[07:19:38] <Fira> xD
L111[07:20:09] <Fira> btw i need to test OC' Datacard again on my old hosting provider, messaged them and they said they added an userspace entropy gen
L112[07:20:16] <Fira> i guess that's one way to do it...
L113[07:20:24] <Inari> o.o
L114[07:20:36] <Inari> What did it do before?
L115[07:20:53] <Fira> whole server hanged and stopped ticking until crashing when doing some data card related things
L116[07:21:03] <Fira> entropy pool empty = blocking /dev/random access
L117[07:21:13] <Inari> Haha
L118[07:21:39] <Fira> couldn't even call random(16) without crashing everything *duh*
L119[07:22:18] <Inari> How did MC get it's random data?
L120[07:22:24] <Fira> moved stuff to a new dedicated server meanwhile
L121[07:22:24] <Inari> *its
L122[07:22:26] <Fira> no clue
L123[07:22:59] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnSGysfU4AA_ncA.jpg:large thats an interesting smile
L124[07:23:06] <Fira> it's a gaming servers provider so i'm wondering if that wasn't causing issue in a number of other games too
L125[07:23:43] <Fira> i setup my own thing with pterodactyl now, pretty cool software :D
L126[07:24:29] <Fira> i'm not 100% sure it was actually entropy related, didn't test it again yet
L127[07:24:35] <Fira> should do that now
L128[07:24:53] <Fira> support did say their entropy pool was indeed flatened out though
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L134[07:35:29] <Skye> Wait what
L135[07:36:22] <Skye> Why would the data card use blocking random?!
L136[07:36:35] <Fira> I dunno
L137[07:36:44] <Fira> We talked it over with payon_el
L138[07:36:46] <Skye> Uhhhm...
L139[07:36:50] <Fira> Said he'd change it
L140[07:36:54] <Skye> Ah
L141[07:37:01] <Skye> It might be a java default setting
L142[07:49:06] <AmandaC> %choose re-watch 1 & 2 or meh
L143[07:49:06] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I saw that re-watch 1 & 2 is the best choice in a vision
L144[07:56:06] <AmandaC> Skye: if it's for encryption you shouldbe using that, as it'll have more entropy than your off-the-shelf PRNG
L145[07:57:53] <Skye> I read something about how it doesn't make a difference after it has warmed up once? I need to find a reputable reference to link, don't I?
L146[07:59:51] <Skye> https://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom
L147[08:00:04] <AmandaC> Inari: starting E2 of crest of the Stars and the OP is very 90s sci-fi OP
L148[08:01:36] <Skye> Iirc there's a BSD that doesn't do that entropy estimation
L149[08:01:48] <Inari> Hehe
L150[08:01:56] <Inari> watched some more of it yesterday
L151[08:02:00] <Inari> Such a good series
L152[08:10:16] <Skye> AmandaC: so actual cryptographers say use urandom
L153[08:30:40] <Inari> AmandaC: Oh, and the pre-OP stuff isn't just a recap or something :P
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L155[08:49:04] <Temia> %tonk
L156[08:49:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Temia, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds this time.
L157[08:49:05] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 33 minutes and 22 seconds were wasted!
L158[08:49:11] <Temia> Darn
L159[08:49:53] <AmandaC> Inari: yeah I noticed it's like lore dumps
L160[08:50:19] <Corded> * <Lizzian> dances
L161[08:51:15] <Temia> Now I want to build an IRL tonking machine
L162[08:53:10] <Temia> Which would pretty much be a basic microcontroller and RTC
L163[08:59:25] <Inari> Temia: RTG!
L164[09:00:19] <Temia> Nnnno
L165[09:13:34] <Inari> Temia: I bet AmandaC would love it
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L168[09:38:44] <AmandaC> Meow?
L169[09:43:24] <Lizzian> meow
L170[09:46:23] <gerard> http://tinyurl.com/yczrkvc3
L171[09:46:24] <gerard> hmm
L172[09:46:53] <gerard> I forgot about this when i commited it I think
L173[09:47:07] <gerard> at least nobody noticed it
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L175[09:52:58] <Inari> https://twitter.com/Inari_Whitebear/status/1060922757863505921
L176[09:52:58] <MichiBot> Fri Nov 09 09:51:11 CST 2018 @Inari_Whitebear: I want a cute hair accessory like that :D #NintendoSwitch #Merchandise <https://t.co/8HEuM5R2XF&gt;
L177[09:53:07] <Inari> AmandaC: RTGs have warms, cats like warms
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L180[09:55:44] <Inari> LDC made me want to make chocolate pancake :f
L181[09:58:53] <Lizzian> %remindme 30m YAML
L182[09:58:55] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "YAML" at 11/09/2018 10:28:53 AM
L183[10:01:20] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L184[10:01:21] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with kachigumi. 8 health gained!
L185[10:01:24] <Inari> Tehe
L186[10:01:31] <Inari> Time to get on making pancake then
L187[10:28:54] <MichiBot> @Lizzian REMINDER: YAML
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L189[10:30:57] <Lizzian> Thanks MichiBot
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L197[11:28:35] <vifino> hullo!
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L201[11:49:58] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L202[11:49:58] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with a broken .exe file. 7 health gained (9-2)!
L203[11:54:05] <Kleadron> %loot
L204[11:54:05] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get a loot box! It contains a paper crane.
L205[11:54:46] * Kleadron builds a larger real crane with the paper crane from the loot box
L206[11:58:02] <Kodos> %tonk
L207[11:58:02] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds this time.
L208[11:58:03] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 8 minutes and 58 seconds were wasted!
L209[12:10:22] <Compu> %tonk
L210[12:10:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Compu, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds this time.
L211[12:10:25] <MichiBot> 12 minutes and 20 seconds were wasted!
L212[12:10:33] <Compu> i dun get it
L213[12:11:25] <Kleadron> even though CompanionCube explained it to me, its still a mystery
L214[12:12:21] <CompanionCube> really? :p
L215[12:15:18] <Temia> %tink
L216[12:16:34] <Lizzy> %tonk
L217[12:16:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds this time.
L218[12:16:35] <MichiBot> 6 minutes and 11 seconds were wasted!
L219[12:16:36] <Inari> @Compu whats so hard to get? :D
L220[12:16:40] <Lizzy> oh, oops
L221[12:16:44] <Lizzy> oh well
L222[12:16:49] <Lizzy> i still hold the record!
L223[12:17:04] <Compu> what it do
L224[12:17:09] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: I *will* out-tonk you.
L225[12:17:27] <Inari> You tonk. If the last tonk was further in the past than the current record, you get the new record.
L226[12:17:38] <Lizzy> ^
L227[12:17:50] <Lizzy> pretty much as basic as you can explain it
L228[12:20:04] <Compu> what does tonk mean
L229[12:20:41] <Inari> %search urban tonk
L230[12:20:42] <MichiBot> Inari: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tonks - *Urban Dictionary: tonks*: "Awesome character in the Harry Potter series. She's a metamorphagus (she can change her appearance at will), which is left out in the fifth movie. A LOT of ..."
L231[12:20:48] <Inari> xD
L232[12:21:02] <Compu> lewd
L233[12:21:19] <Compu> but what does it have to do with that command thing?
L234[12:24:49] <Forecaster> It's something that popped into my head when I needed a command for it
L235[12:24:56] <Compu> nya
L236[12:25:43] <Forecaster> It's an onomatopeia
L237[12:25:52] <Compu> my bot has this command https://i.imgur.com/aU57BwJ.png
L238[12:26:01] <Compu> o3o
L239[12:26:53] <Inari> OwO whatsThis();
L240[12:28:19] <Kleadron> No
L241[12:29:03] <Compu> it also works with multiple words https://i.imgur.com/WTqy9RX.png
L242[12:29:06] * Lizzy thinks you're trying too hard to find a rational meaning behind the command
L243[12:32:41] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y9t74z2m
L244[12:32:45] <ZefTheFox> I have got an item craftable
L245[12:32:50] <ZefTheFox> it don't do shit yet
L246[12:32:51] <ZefTheFox> lol
L247[12:34:41] <Compu> what is it supposed to be
L248[12:35:47] <ZefTheFox> It's a thermal printer
L249[12:35:48] <Temia> %moo
L250[12:35:49] <MichiBot> Temia: Moo?
L251[12:35:52] <Temia> Moo!
L252[12:35:54] <ZefTheFox> like a recipt printer
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L254[12:38:15] <Compu> ah
L255[12:44:55] <ZefTheFox> So I'm following mr.crayfish's tutorial on 1.7.10 mods
L256[12:45:02] <ZefTheFox> and he complained about the lang files
L257[12:45:03] <ZefTheFox> lol
L258[12:51:59] <CompanionCube> today on Windows 10: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/08/windows_10_activation/ (cc Izaya)
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L260[12:53:30] <ZefTheFox> Wow
L261[12:57:28] <payonel> o/
L262[12:57:59] <Compu> is it possible to use the sides api in a microcontroller or no?
L263[12:59:07] <payonel> @compu can the µC use redstone?
L264[12:59:27] <Compu> yes?
L265[12:59:35] <payonel> then it could use sides with that, no?
L266[13:00:47] <ZefTheFox> Isn't the sides api part of openos?
L267[13:01:04] <payonel> true, haha
L268[13:01:08] <payonel> i didnt think of it that way
L269[13:01:28] <payonel> @compu yeah, sides in /lib/sides.lua which is in openos, and on your µC you'd not have openos installed
L270[13:01:41] <payonel> but you could just copy the table from /lib/sides if you want
L271[13:01:59] <Compu> ok
L272[13:02:10] <payonel> thanks @ZefTheFox
L273[13:02:31] <Compu> probably doesn't make sense to copy the table, just use it for those values
L274[13:02:47] <ZefTheFox> Well if you want your code to look neat it won't hurt to copy the table
L275[13:02:56] <ZefTheFox> it's probably only what 6 values?
L276[13:02:57] <payonel> yep
L277[13:04:10] <Compu> i care more about function than neatness
L278[13:04:28] <ZefTheFox> until you have to work on that code again
L279[13:04:41] <ZefTheFox> Then you'll spend a ton of time learning what it does
L280[13:04:51] <payonel> obviously you are free to write it how you likes, but it can be very helpful to have names for numbers that have such meaning
L281[13:05:39] <ZefTheFox> *at the most you'd save like 20 bytes by not using the table*
L282[13:06:04] <Compu> it's likely not gonna be much code anyways
L283[13:06:13] <Compu> i just wanna use it in a redstone circuit
L284[13:06:18] <Forecaster> %moo ^
L285[13:06:18] <MichiBot> i joost wanna oose it in a redstoone circooit
L286[13:06:46] <payonel> don't cut out too much readability from your code, it might start to look like Izaya wrote it
L287[13:07:04] <Forecaster> Ooooo
L288[13:07:05] <Compu> i've just never programmed in Lua outside of openos itself so i'm not completely sure what is available and what isn't
L289[13:07:09] * Izaya coughs
L290[13:07:51] <payonel> @compu =D no worries! i totally understand -- please feel free to ask anything at all about openos or lua here
L291[13:07:51] <Compu> i can get some ideas by looking at example code and such but i didn't see any using the sides stuff of the redstone card
L292[13:08:14] <payonel> my advice is to get it working with openos first
L293[13:08:16] <Forecaster> Unless it's how to use them to summon demons
L294[13:08:24] <Forecaster> We only do that on Tuesdays
L295[13:08:56] <payonel> then, remove any includes you have, and add only: local computer = computer or require("computer")
L296[13:09:04] <payonel> and: local component = component or require("component")
L297[13:09:08] <Compu> with something as simple as what i plan on doing i doubt a whole lot is necessary, it's likely just gonna be something like wireless redstone or basic signal processing
L298[13:09:10] <payonel> to the top of your file, then you should be fine
L299[13:09:58] <payonel> also, keep in mind, if your building something that works in a computer, like with redstone, i dont really see the point of using a µC for it
L300[13:10:16] <Compu> because microcontrollers r cheaper
L301[13:10:19] <payonel> µC is good for "upgrade" cards that don't fit in a computer
L302[13:10:43] <payonel> yes, they are cheaper
L303[13:11:00] <payonel> anyways, if you can, i'd troubleshoot and dev the project on a case machine first, with openos
L304[13:11:03] <Compu> if i'm literally doing something that just watches for a redstone signal and then sends a signal over a wireless network card then what's the point of spending resources on an entire computer for this?
L305[13:11:25] <payonel> sure
L306[13:12:15] <ZefTheFox> So that if something doesn't work on the program you can see
L307[13:12:21] <ZefTheFox> I don't think you get what they're saying
L308[13:12:33] <ZefTheFox> They mean to *test* it on a computer first
L309[13:12:36] <Compu> ye i get it
L310[13:12:37] <Compu> ok
L311[13:12:58] <Compu> i need to build a computer in my friend's tardis to write these eeproms with anyways
L312[13:13:32] <payonel> on a side note, it is okay to call me a dude :) i'm totally fine with 'they', but i'm not also not hiding my gender
L313[13:13:43] <ZefTheFox> lol
L314[13:13:48] <ZefTheFox> It's just a habit of mine
L315[13:14:33] <Compu> iirc i just save it as a lua file and write the lua file to the eeprom with a writing program like the one in kitten os, right?
L316[13:14:49] <payonel> @compu are you writing the lua file on openos?
L317[13:14:56] <payonel> or are you using kitten os?
L318[13:15:10] <Compu> probably gonna be an openos VM inside kitten os
L319[13:15:25] <ZefTheFox> wow
L320[13:15:35] <ZefTheFox> I think you're a bit too dependant on kittenos
L321[13:15:41] <Compu> i like it
L322[13:15:47] <payonel> i have no idea what that does to openos, but assuming kittenos does nothing ...
L323[13:15:53] <payonel> openos creates a /dev system
L324[13:16:12] <ZefTheFox> From what's been said about it it sounds like kittenos is a gui os
L325[13:16:15] <payonel> so you have /dev/eeprom
L326[13:16:25] <payonel> you can cp your eeprom code over that
L327[13:16:27] <ZefTheFox> Well openos also has the `flash` program
L328[13:16:27] <payonel> or edit it directly
L329[13:16:36] <Compu> it does nothing to openos, kitten os gives it it's own filesystem inside a folder, u can forward devices in to openos before u start the vm (ie the eeprom)
L330[13:16:50] <payonel> flash is no better than using /dev/eeprom
L331[13:16:57] <ZefTheFox> Yeah Ik
L332[13:17:09] <payonel> also, using /dev/eeprom makes a lot more sense
L333[13:17:12] <ZefTheFox> Just makes it a little quicker than copying to the eeprom
L334[13:17:15] <payonel> it is far more intuitive
L335[13:17:16] <ZefTheFox> manually
L336[13:17:29] <payonel> it isn't any faster
L337[13:17:35] <payonel> cp my.lua /dev/eeprom
L338[13:17:37] <payonel> pretty fast
L339[13:17:42] <ZefTheFox> Well if you know how eeproms work a little bit it makes sense to "flash" them
L340[13:17:42] <Compu> but kitten os has an eeprom flashing program and u can access the openos filesystem from kitten os
L341[13:17:46] <ZefTheFox> or just flash my.lua
L342[13:18:05] <ZefTheFox> Well none of us know shit about kittenos
L343[13:18:24] <ZefTheFox> I only know openos
L344[13:18:39] <Compu> try it, the metamachine VM manager is pretty neat
L345[13:18:45] <ZefTheFox> And in my opinion openos is what you should use to learn opencomputers
L346[13:18:51] <payonel> the reason i never recommend flash is because it was a temporary solution until i added the devfs
L347[13:19:08] <ZefTheFox> that makes sense
L348[13:19:26] <payonel> but, yes, it is also a good solution
L349[13:19:33] <payonel> and i'll never remove it :)
L350[13:19:48] <Compu> i'll likely just write and test it in the VM and then flash it in kitten os
L351[13:19:49] <ZefTheFox> I think it feels a little more authentic "flashing" the eeprom
L352[13:19:58] <ZefTheFox> rather than just treating it as a filesystem
L353[13:20:31] <payonel> ok but, for the fun sake of arguing (not hostility, just differing opinions)
L354[13:20:55] <payonel> the devfs is specifically for things that are pseudo files, a virtual representation of things that aren't files
L355[13:21:04] <payonel> but devices, and a way to read and write to those devices
L356[13:21:06] <Compu> and don't worry i used open os for a long time before i found kitten os
L357[13:21:07] <ZefTheFox> Ah, I did not know that
L358[13:21:08] <payonel> like, flashing an eeprom
L359[13:21:27] <Compu> i programmed a robot in openos
L360[13:21:31] <payonel> ah yes. all of the things in /dev are pseudo files
L361[13:21:44] <Compu> and then added a tablet with a linked card with the robot to remote control it
L362[13:21:56] <payonel> @zefthefox are you on a dev build of OC?
L363[13:22:03] <payonel> there is a new alias in shell, reset
L364[13:22:06] <ZefTheFox> No, I'm on a stable one
L365[13:22:14] <ZefTheFox> No, I'm on a release [Edited]
L366[13:22:17] <ZefTheFox> oh wait
L367[13:22:24] <ZefTheFox> edits don't appear in irc, I'm on a release
L368[13:22:34] <payonel> they appear
L369[13:22:38] <ZefTheFox> oh
L370[13:22:43] <payonel> >> <+Corded> <ZefTheFox> No, I'm on a release [Edited]
L371[13:22:49] <Kleadron> the bot makes them appear i think
L372[13:22:50] <ZefTheFox> didn't know that
L373[13:22:55] <Compu> how should i handle signal strength on the wireless network card?
L374[13:22:59] <payonel> it repeat your whole line each time
L375[13:23:07] <ZefTheFox> what tier card are you using?
L376[13:23:13] <Compu> should it just be a fixed value or should it try to figure out the best value by looking for a reply?
L377[13:23:21] <Compu> none yet
L378[13:23:25] <Compu> i haven't actually started
L379[13:23:33] <ZefTheFox> Well the tier one only has a 16(?) block range
L380[13:23:55] <ZefTheFox> And either way I'd just not bother changing it, I think it's automatically the max
L381[13:24:08] <ZefTheFox> unless you're really conserving power it shouldn't matter
L382[13:24:54] <Compu> ok
L383[13:25:26] <Compu> i also need to figure out what exactly to send, just 1 or 0? the signal strength of the redstone input? the signal strength and side? not sure
L384[13:26:02] <ZefTheFox> Well I'd suggest getting a string so you know that the signal is intended for that computer
L385[13:26:04] <Compu> i still think i might wanna do a syn ack type thing to be sure the signal was sent, and resend if necessary
L386[13:26:05] <ZefTheFox> then the strenght
L387[13:26:08] <ZefTheFox> then the strength [Edited]
L388[13:26:36] <Compu> why a string? can't u use the card addresses?
L389[13:26:43] <Compu> send(address: string, port: number[, ...]): boolean
L390[13:27:00] <ZefTheFox> Yes but
L391[13:27:08] <ZefTheFox> you'd have to get the address beforehand
L392[13:27:16] <Compu> i plan to
L393[13:27:24] <ZefTheFox> and either write an initialization thing or hardcode it
L394[13:28:06] <Compu> hmm good idea, i was gonna hardcode it but i could send an initialization thing so when the microcontrollers turn on they automatically find the other one
L395[13:28:10] <payonel> @ZefTheFox on dev builds, `reset` is an alias to: clear; resolution `cat /dev/components/by-type/gpu/0/maxResolution`
L396[13:28:19] <payonel> sorry for the delayed comment, was afk
L397[13:28:32] <ZefTheFox> So it sets the resolution to the max?
L398[13:28:37] <ZefTheFox> That's really cool
L399[13:28:58] <ZefTheFox> So when my programs inevidably crash at a low resolution I can set it back very easily
L400[13:29:04] <payonel> yeah, but the reason i share that is to demonstrate the purpose/utility of /dev
L401[13:29:16] <Compu> oh i just thought
L402[13:29:27] <Compu> i could use sign io for text output!
L403[13:29:43] <payonel> btw, that won't work on the release build because there was a sneaky bug in subcommands and mutliple arguments
L404[13:29:58] <ZefTheFox> weird
L405[13:30:05] <Compu> maybe even as an input too if it finds multiple other redstone microcontrollers
L406[13:30:17] <payonel> well, shell parsing is easily the most complex part of openos :)
L407[13:30:19] <ZefTheFox> I'm still going to use release builds because it's easier to keep versions synced between players and a server
L408[13:30:35] <ZefTheFox> However I might mess with dev builds in singleplayer
L409[13:30:46] <payonel> we're very very close to release
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L415[13:30:54] <payonel> probably ..... a week
L416[13:30:57] <payonel> maybe two
L417[13:31:07] <payonel> i'm mostly at PRs right now that take a lot of testing
L418[13:31:10] <ZefTheFox> And I tested the dying cases/screens
L419[13:31:19] <ZefTheFox> I can't believe I never heard of that before
L420[13:31:57] <payonel> but i'm a bachelor tonight so i might stay up super late finishing a couple Prs
L421[13:32:00] <payonel> PRs*
L422[13:32:41] <payonel> AmandaC: how did you get your avatar linked with Corded, again? i know we just talked about this like 2 days ago
L423[13:33:52] <ZefTheFox> So I got a suggestion, I'll probably post it on the github soon but you mind if I say it here too?
L424[13:34:01] <payonel> sometimes i prefer it here :)
L425[13:34:09] <payonel> so in case i dont like it, i dont get flamed as much for saying no
L426[13:34:10] <payonel> haha
L427[13:34:16] <payonel> on github....people get upset more when i close things
L428[13:34:26] <ZefTheFox> lol, well what if you could dye servers?
L429[13:34:28] <payonel> so yeah, ask here first! :)
L430[13:34:31] <ZefTheFox> While they're in the rack
L431[13:34:41] <payonel> oh that sounds neat
L432[13:34:56] <ZefTheFox> It'd be a cool addition I think
L433[13:34:56] <payonel> um, time frame for stuff like that though, is like 1.8.1
L434[13:35:10] <ZefTheFox> Minecraft version?
L435[13:35:14] <payonel> oc
L436[13:35:44] <payonel> the only difference in mc versions is mod integration
L437[13:36:02] <payonel> otherwise, i release the same oc version across all mc versions
L438[13:36:12] <ZefTheFox> The latest version on curseforge is 1.7.2
L439[13:36:19] <ZefTheFox> The latest version on curseforge is 1.7.2.67 [Edited]
L440[13:36:26] <payonel> yes, that is 1.12's build number
L441[13:36:32] <payonel> but it is 1.7.2 for all mc versions
L442[13:36:40] <ZefTheFox> odd
L443[13:36:43] <payonel> the .67 happens to be where 1.12 was at
L444[13:36:48] <ZefTheFox> Should I post that on the github though?
L445[13:36:52] <payonel> but oc for mc 1.7.10 is also 1.7.2
L446[13:37:05] <payonel> and technically, to me, it isn't 1.7.2.67
L447[13:37:09] <payonel> but 1.12-1.7.2.67
L448[13:37:21] <ZefTheFox> Well yeah I just left off the 1.12
L449[13:37:27] <payonel> i know, everyone does
L450[13:37:30] <payonel> i ..... annoys me
L451[13:37:32] <payonel> it*
L452[13:37:35] <payonel> :)
L453[13:37:49] <payonel> i think people omit it because they think 1.7.2 is "1.12"
L454[13:37:51] <payonel> but no
L455[13:37:58] <Kleadron> can you close the issue called life, thx
L456[13:38:00] <payonel> 1.11-1.7.2.*
L457[13:38:05] <payonel> 1.10-1.7.2.*
L458[13:38:05] <payonel> etc
L459[13:38:14] <ZefTheFox> What's the "open-for-adoption" tag on github?
L460[13:38:25] <payonel> means i approve it, but i'm "never" going to do it
L461[13:38:40] <payonel> where "never" means, probably so low priority that it won't be on my todo list for years
L462[13:39:02] <Vexatos> i.e. "someone else can do it"
L463[13:39:10] <payonel> i'd probably set your server dye feature as open-for-adoption
L464[13:39:21] <payonel> yeah, what vex said
L465[13:39:56] <ZefTheFox> ah lol
L466[13:40:22] <payonel> zefthefox: i build every feature for 1.7.10 first
L467[13:40:27] <payonel> then merge it up to 1.12
L468[13:40:34] <ZefTheFox> and a second idea that kinda steals an idea from computronics, adding a controllable indicator light to servers
L469[13:40:34] <payonel> unless it is a mod integration issue
L470[13:40:47] <ZefTheFox> I'm so glad you're still supporting 1.7.10
L471[13:40:49] <payonel> then i'll only do it for 1.12, generally
L472[13:40:53] <ZefTheFox> I can't stand the newer versions
L473[13:41:06] <Vexatos> >stealing features from Computronics
L474[13:41:15] <Vexatos> @ZefTheFox just use Computronics DF:
L475[13:41:22] <Vexatos> D: even
L476[13:41:44] <ZefTheFox> Well computronics makes it an entire rack mountable component
L477[13:41:50] <ZefTheFox> that can have up to like 30 lights on it
L478[13:42:01] <Vexatos> Good to know :U
L479[13:42:01] <ZefTheFox> I think a single light on the server itself would be cool
L480[13:42:10] <Vexatos> (I made that thing)
L481[13:42:13] <payonel> @zef ....
L482[13:42:20] <payonel> vex is the author
L483[13:42:24] <ZefTheFox> Oh
L484[13:42:32] <ZefTheFox> lol
L485[13:42:34] <Forecaster> XD
L486[13:42:35] <payonel> and yeah, i'd rather not take anything from computronics
L487[13:42:38] <payonel> people should just use it
L488[13:42:46] <ZefTheFox> Alright
L489[13:43:06] <Vexatos> servers already have two status lights
L490[13:43:09] <payonel> i mean, that's not like a rule or something. but a good general rule
L491[13:43:12] <Kleadron> Is 1.7.10 going to be supported longer than 1.12.2
L492[13:43:18] <Vexatos> if you want a controllable one, Computronics it is
L493[13:43:26] <payonel> Kleadron: let me rephrase that for you
L494[13:43:38] <payonel> OC 1.8 will be for MC 1.13
L495[13:43:39] <Vexatos> Kleadron, I mean it already is
L496[13:43:48] <Vexatos> 1.12 has been supported for two years, 1.7.10 for four or so
L497[13:43:53] <payonel> now, will i backport OC 1.8 to 1.7.10, 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12? unknown at this time
L498[13:44:00] <payonel> sort of depends what I have to do for OC 1.8
L499[13:44:01] <ZefTheFox> ~~damn I kinda feel bad now lol~~
L500[13:44:16] <Vexatos> ~~formatting doesn't work on IRC~~
L501[13:44:33] <ZefTheFox> ~~yeah I kinda figured but it still gets the point across~~
L502[13:44:45] <Vexatos> ___**but why**___
L503[13:44:47] <Kleadron> 1.7.10 is the windows 7 of minecraft
L504[13:45:04] <payonel> Kleadron: but...honestly, i might drop some older versions at that time
L505[13:45:36] <ZefTheFox> I like cannot play on anything newer than 1.7.10
L506[13:45:43] <ZefTheFox> I really don't like them
L507[13:46:19] <Kleadron> 1.7.10's forge hasnt been updated in a long time
L508[13:46:41] <ZefTheFox> Well forge has moved on of course
L509[13:48:50] <Vexatos> "Formatting doesn't work on IRC" Vexatos, 2018
L510[13:48:59] <Kleadron> i cant even read that
L511[13:49:09] <Vexatos> You can read it on Discord :^)
L512[13:49:32] <Kleadron> mhm
L513[13:50:09] <Warior4356> When running other techmods what exactly are robots good for?
L514[13:50:31] <ZefTheFox> Not running other techmods (or like any task that you want)
L515[13:50:35] <Kleadron> robot stuff
L516[13:50:42] <ZefTheFox> cool things
L517[13:50:45] <Warior4356> Other Mods mine better, grow things better.
L518[13:50:51] <ZefTheFox> So?
L519[13:50:56] <vifino> i can read it just fine here.
L520[13:51:01] <ZefTheFox> This mod has a focus and sticks to it
L521[13:51:16] <Vexatos> Kleadron, https://puu.sh/BZ4NW/0eff038cdf.png
L522[13:51:36] <Warior4356> I was more asking if people had suggestions on what to do with them. Given than production tasks are not a good choice
L523[13:51:55] <Kleadron> my irc client didnt give it italics for some reason
L524[13:52:11] <Warior4356> Like I got half way through writing a mining script before I realized that there are plenty of machines in the mod pack that mine better
L525[13:52:55] <Kleadron> http://tinyurl.com/y9hwjk8z
L526[13:52:55] <Kleadron> Vexatos ^
L527[13:53:02] <Vexatos> nice
L528[13:53:20] <vifino> Vexatos: https://puu.sh/BZ4PQ/deb152405b.png
L529[13:54:24] <Warior4356> I mean Insupoose they can mine without as much waste stone.
L530[13:54:38] <Warior4356> But even with the precision they are kinda slow
L531[13:55:01] <Warior4356> Eh I might write the program anyway, it could be fun.
L532[13:57:02] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y7hr33r7
L533[13:57:21] <ZefTheFox> weird
L534[13:57:30] <Kleadron> Hi Mason, good job not censoring the prompt at the end
L535[13:57:37] <ZefTheFox> damnit
L536[13:57:40] <ZefTheFox> I'm impatient
L537[13:57:42] <ZefTheFox> whatever
L538[13:57:43] <ZefTheFox> lol
L539[13:58:39] <ZefTheFox> ohh
L540[13:58:45] <ZefTheFox> the git@ shouldn't be there
L541[13:58:46] <ZefTheFox> lol
L542[14:05:43] <Compu> uh
L543[14:05:51] <Compu> i can't craft raw circuit boards?
L544[14:06:42] <payonel> @compu what do you mean "can't"? what does or doesn't happen as you'd expect?
L545[14:06:42] <Compu> oh
L546[14:06:44] <Compu> duh
L547[14:06:48] <Compu> nevermind my fault
L548[14:06:55] <Compu> was trying to use stone instead of clay
L549[14:06:57] <Compu> i goofed
L550[14:19:19] <payonel> Inari: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2xyA7ArQy/
L551[14:19:26] <Compu> what's the difference between the tier 1 redstone card and the tier 2 redstone card?
L552[14:19:53] <Wuerfel_21> tier 2 can do bundled and wireless redstone
L553[14:20:26] <payonel> wireless redstone from rednet, i believe
L554[14:20:26] <Compu> wireless?
L555[14:20:28] <Kleadron> payonel: i clicked on that link and it gave me a facebook error page
L556[14:20:29] <Compu> ah
L557[14:20:34] <Compu> i don't have rednet
L558[14:20:37] <payonel> i'm not 100% sure, but, i think there is no wireless support in 1.12
L559[14:20:44] <payonel> is there a wireless redstone mod in 1.12?
L560[14:20:56] <Compu> i'm on 1.7.10
L561[14:21:06] <payonel> Kleadron: but it is instagram....not facebook
L562[14:21:25] <Kleadron> open it with your web browser
L563[14:24:21] <payonel> um, i did
L564[14:24:25] <payonel> :)
L565[14:24:51] <payonel> i also copied it from my web browser
L566[14:24:56] <payonel> i also dont use facebook
L567[14:25:06] <payonel> nor do i have an account on facebook
L568[14:31:40] <AmandaC> loads fine here
L569[14:39:40] <Kleadron> Well now the link works
L570[14:39:47] <Kleadron> I have no idea what was going on
L571[14:44:39] <Inari> AmandaC be like https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/348579473727160321/510547113759997952/image0.jpg
L572[14:48:01] <Kleadron> that cat is sitting on the pizza and ruined it
L573[14:48:44] <Inari> Nono
L574[14:48:47] <Inari> It's claiming hte pizza
L575[14:50:53] <Inari> https://twitter.com/archillect/status/1060997978972917761
L576[14:50:54] <MichiBot> Fri Nov 09 14:50:05 CST 2018 @archillect: <https://t.co/YBVuwoE3Lz&gt;
L577[14:55:32] <Kleadron> what is this supposed to be
L578[14:57:57] <Inari> A girl in skirt, kneesocks. With tattoeed legs, a knife, and a lanyard/leash handle?
L579[14:59:45] <Kleadron> Are they going to battle with the cat to reclaim the pizza
L580[15:00:32] <Inari> I mean, I don't like fur in my food, so I wouldn't
L581[15:02:35] <AmandaC> Inari: don't be silly, I'd not sit on a pizza for warms, you get many more by eating it!
L582[15:03:16] <Inari> AmandaC: What if you already ate the pizza until yuo were satiated?
L583[15:03:29] <AmandaC> then put the rest in the cold-box to be re-warmed later!
L584[15:03:33] <Forecaster> %moo ^
L585[15:03:33] <MichiBot> then poot the rest in the coold-boox too be re-warmed later!
L586[15:04:00] <AmandaC> speaking of pizza, though: https://i.imgur.com/J70MhWG.jpg
L587[15:05:39] <Kleadron> dont you hate it when you put the dial to toast on your convection oven but its still noodles
L588[16:03:00] <Inari> Nah, I always put the dial to grill
L589[16:03:58] <Forecaster> Mine only has "incinerate"
L590[16:04:08] <Forecaster> I don't even know why I bought it...
L591[16:05:37] <Kleadron> you are doing it completely wrong
L592[16:14:23] <ZefTheFox> Is there a way to start a for _, _ in pairs(table) loop at 2
L593[16:15:08] <ZefTheFox> Is there a way to start a for a, b in pairs(table) loop at 2 [Edited]
L594[16:21:42] <Compu> i'm gonna try this net-flash app for microcontroller development
L595[16:25:03] <ZefTheFox> I'm trying to deal with someone making a server and damn it's like they've never done it before
L596[16:25:15] <ZefTheFox> They have 130 mods and there's a random memory leak somewhere in there
L597[16:25:28] <ZefTheFox> And instead of remaking the modpack they're insisting they're going to find the mod
L598[16:25:52] <Inari> Just use a profiler?
L599[16:27:24] <ZefTheFox> On a server that he doesn't have direct acess to?
L600[16:28:08] <ZefTheFox> I'm pretty sure he's using some hosting service
L601[16:35:16] <ZefTheFox> He has malisis doors in, I'm pretty sure that used to have a bunch of memory issues
L602[16:45:16] <payonel> @zefthefox still have a question about pairs() ?
L603[16:45:38] <ZefTheFox> Yeah, just won't do it right this second
L604[16:45:52] <ZefTheFox> But I wanted to itterate through an array starting at 2
L605[16:46:59] <payonel> for i=2,#array do --[[ array[i] ]]-- end
L606[16:54:35] <payonel> joy, i finally have a really good test bed for disk io
L607[17:01:01] <Izaya> https://pleroma.soykaf.com/media/dbf4679f-1969-4577-be4e-a35ad89ee844/Tusky_1541801028418_WK8SGP17CN.jpg
L608[17:05:21] <Inari> Yes, eat the dog
L609[17:07:40] <Kleadron> No
L610[17:07:54] <Inari> %inv add OpenComputer Presentation Foundation
L611[17:07:55] * MichiBot summons 'OpenComputer Presentation Foundation' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L612[17:12:52] <Kleadron> it is built on a codebase made of stick, if you even breathe on it, it will fall apart
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L615[18:16:11] <gamerred> guys I got a non oc question. did any of you take damage at random when just walking around on mc and playing on peaceful?
L616[18:26:17] <Wuerfel_21> Not peaceful specifically, but no, i didn't, except when I had a mod installed that added some hostile plant. Can't remember which one that was, but Forestry bees kept spawning them in our back yard >.<
L617[18:27:28] <gamerred> ah cause that happened for the 5th time in a hour time and each time the scoreboard loaded when I was on single-player
L618[18:27:58] <payonel> sounds like poison ivy from biome's o' plenty
L619[18:28:02] <payonel> wear boots
L620[18:28:24] <gamerred> pretty sure its not what I am near cause was in my house and dont got biome o plenty
L621[18:28:43] <payonel> bees?
L622[18:28:46] <payonel> they sting
L623[18:29:19] <gamerred> dont got bees in my list either
L624[18:29:38] <payonel> psychosomatic?
L625[18:30:20] <gamerred> dont got that either
L626[18:31:24] <payonel> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=psychosomatic
L627[18:31:49] <gamerred> http://tinyurl.com/ybw8j4hw
L628[18:32:00] <gamerred> this is what I was standing near anything looks like it will damage me?
L629[18:32:40] <payonel> psychosomatic: (of a physical illness or other condition) caused or aggravated by a mental factor such as internal conflict or stress.
L630[18:39:40] <gamerred> with oc can you query if a player gets attacked then output what hit them?
L631[18:48:35] <AmandaC> Were you thinking of something beyond your current facilities?
L632[18:51:05] <gamerred> what?
L633[18:51:34] <gamerred> yeah I feel like my oc code is done just needs to add more items
L634[19:15:42] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L635[19:15:42] <MichiBot> CompanionCube! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 5 hours, 57 minutes and 37 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L636[19:15:43] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 6 hours, 59 minutes and 8 seconds
L637[19:15:56] <CompanionCube> so close
L638[19:15:59] <CompanionCube> :(
L639[19:17:48] <payonel> %tonk
L640[19:17:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 6 hours, 59 minutes and 8 seconds this time.
L641[19:17:49] <MichiBot> 2 minutes and 5 seconds were wasted!
L642[19:18:02] <CompanionCube> lol
L643[19:19:23] <payonel> %TONK
L644[19:19:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 6 hours, 59 minutes and 8 seconds this time.
L645[19:19:24] <MichiBot> 1 minute and 35 seconds were wasted!
L646[19:19:30] <payonel> %meh
L647[19:19:30] <MichiBot> payonel: hai Kodos
L648[19:20:07] * Lizzy grumbles at CompanionCube
L649[19:20:45] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: you shouldn't have any difficulty reclaiming your tonk
L650[19:20:59] <CompanionCube> now if only I had delayed it by some seconds..
L651[19:23:23] <ZefTheFox> https://youtu.be/UmV2LXwzoDY I did a thing
L652[19:23:24] <ZefTheFox> lol
L653[19:23:25] <MichiBot> OpenPrinters contract program | length: 54s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 View: 1 | by Zef The Fox | Published On 9/11/2018
L654[19:25:53] <Izaya> neat
L655[19:26:01] <Izaya> I need to try messing with OpenPrinter again
L656[19:26:05] <Izaya> did you say the book support was better
L657[19:27:59] <ZefTheFox> It doesn't support books, I just like the folder system more than books
L658[19:28:10] <Izaya> folder system?
L659[19:28:25] <Izaya> (it's been literal years since I used it)
L660[19:28:45] <ZefTheFox> I have a screenshot
L661[19:28:59] <ZefTheFox> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509456619537694736/509904069897224196/unknown.png
L662[19:29:15] <ZefTheFox> A folder can hold 9 pages and can be renamed
L663[19:29:22] <ZefTheFox> and the pages can be taken out as needed
L664[19:29:52] <Izaya> the name is the label on the side?
L665[19:30:53] <ZefTheFox> Yes
L666[19:31:02] <ZefTheFox> I'll load in game and get some more screenshots
L667[19:33:03] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/yddu6xsy
L668[19:33:13] <ZefTheFox> This is how you can put papers in the folder and change the name
L669[19:34:10] <Izaya> neat
L670[19:34:24] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ydh3d7hl
L671[19:34:27] <ZefTheFox> and file cabinents
L672[19:34:29] <ZefTheFox> and file cabinets [Edited]
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L674[19:34:49] <Izaya> ooooo
L675[19:53:35] <AmandaC> %tell Inari probably good I didn't download s3 into Plex as well... I... I might have finished s2 already
L676[19:53:35] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L677[19:53:39] <ZefTheFox> Where can I download the development builds
L678[19:54:38] <Izaya> https://ci.cil.li
L679[19:55:27] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y8vd442t
L680[19:55:29] <ZefTheFox> Which do I download?
L681[19:55:33] <ZefTheFox> The last one?
L682[19:55:49] <Izaya> latest one for your MC version, I guess
L683[19:56:04] <ZefTheFox> There are 4 different versions
L684[19:56:11] <Izaya> not the -api, -javadoc or -sources one
L685[19:56:15] <ZefTheFox> Alright
L686[19:56:28] <Izaya> assuming you intend to use it as a mod, anyway
L687[19:57:02] <ZefTheFox> Yes I do
L688[19:57:25] <ZefTheFox> Because I'm trying something out that 1.7.10 doesn't support and might as well try the dev builds as well
L689[20:03:18] <ZefTheFox> Goddamn I just found an easteregg
L690[20:03:19] <ZefTheFox> lol
L691[20:03:29] <Izaya> AmandaC: https://github.com/redmcg/wine/releases/tag/ED_Proton_3.16-4_Beta
L692[20:07:48] <Kleadron> heck
L693[20:10:52] <ZefTheFox> Damn
L694[20:11:11] <ZefTheFox> I was hoping I wouldn't have to setup a development enviroment to change a single variable
L695[20:13:52] <CompanionCube> for changing a single variable perhaps a decompiler/recompiler would be better?
L696[20:15:19] <ZefTheFox> Well changing a variable of one of the blocks in OC
L697[20:15:35] <ZefTheFox> Forge won't load the uncompiled zip
L698[20:24:53] <payonel> zefthefox: what is the issue?
L699[20:26:51] <ZefTheFox> I was changing the model of the computer case but it's set as opaque
L700[20:26:57] <ZefTheFox> so I was getting an xray effect
L701[20:27:05] <payonel> what mc version?
L702[20:27:15] <ZefTheFox> 1.10
L703[20:27:42] <ZefTheFox> I'm currently setting up a development enviorment just to do this lol
L704[20:27:49] <payonel> you should be able to git clone ...; ./gradlew setupDecompWorkspace build
L705[20:28:00] <ZefTheFox> Yeah I'm doing that now
L706[20:28:15] <ZefTheFox> That's what I meant by setting up a development enviroment
L707[20:29:56] <ZefTheFox> It's not a big enough issue to warrent doing it officially, just want to change some models
L708[20:30:20] <ZefTheFox> Like making the computer case take up a smaller space and making the screen an actual crt or something
L709[20:31:01] <Kleadron> what if we decompile forge for 1.7.10 and update ti
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L711[20:33:42] <Izaya> mfw
L712[20:33:46] <Izaya> I left my Krait on the Gnosis
L713[20:34:14] <Izaya> it's now between the galaxy's arms and I don't have a high enough jump distance to get back
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L715[20:36:55] <Izaya> in other news, I can run it without restricting it to one core and get 60FPS
L716[20:36:58] <Izaya> N I C E
L717[20:37:43] <CompanionCube> rip
L718[20:37:46] <CompanionCube> when can you retrieve?
L719[20:37:57] <Izaya> I'm on my Krait.
L720[20:38:06] <Izaya> It'll be a few months before I can jump back to the bubble.
L721[20:38:18] <payonel> you guys make me feel like i should buy ed
L722[20:38:22] <payonel> ED
L723[20:38:34] <Izaya> do you like Euro Truck Simulator?
L724[20:38:48] <Izaya> because it's like Euro Truck Simulator a lot of the time
L725[20:38:53] <payonel> haven't played it :)
L726[20:39:01] <payonel> haha, that sounds like a funny comparison
L727[20:39:24] <Izaya> It'd be accurate to call it Space Truck Simulator
L728[20:39:51] <Izaya> most of the time, anyway
L729[20:46:24] <ZefTheFox> How would I change a block to not be opaque in 1.10
L730[20:46:42] <ZefTheFox> because the way it was done with 1.7.10 doesn't appear to work
L731[20:47:39] <Izaya> I don't have any video because I'm downloading the beta but take my word for it E:D runs pretty okay with the right patches https://my.mixtape.moe/uxzcjt.png
L732[20:49:18] <Izaya> the question is
L733[20:49:23] <Izaya> am I brave enough to try to do ReShade?
L734[20:50:29] <Kleadron> the way that 1.7.10 and 1.8+ do stuff with blocks is very different apparently
L735[20:50:44] <Temia> Go gutsy, use StormShade with MC :V
L736[20:50:57] <Temia> Relive the full Stormblood experience in VOXEL form!
L737[20:51:26] <Izaya> how would that even...
L738[20:51:32] <Kleadron> magic
L739[20:51:46] <Kleadron> thats how it would even
L740[20:51:51] <Izaya> but uh, the reason I say ReShade is because with some configuration you can get ReShade to do the side-by-side rendering much better than the game does
L741[20:51:58] <Izaya> allowing for much better homebrew VR support
L742[20:52:51] <Izaya> apply some OpenTrack magic and ???
L743[20:58:56] <ZefTheFox> Well
L744[20:59:01] <ZefTheFox> What I wanted to do I can't
L745[20:59:20] <ZefTheFox> Because I can't sucessfully set up a development enviroment
L746[21:08:09] <Lizzian> https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gqi18qrkprgyu9gthcz6.jpg
L747[21:08:33] <Wuerfel_21> yes
L748[21:50:02] <logan2611> nice
L749[21:50:11] <Fatmice> how do i get the equivalent of //time query gametime from os.time()?
L750[21:50:15] <Fatmice> how do i get the equivalent of /time query gametime from os.time()? [Edited]
L751[22:03:03] <Fatmice> (os.time()*1000/60/60) - 6000 doesn't agree with /time query gametime
L752[22:04:39] <Kodos> You could use a debug card to run the command
L753[22:04:40] <Fatmice> more over, this (os.time()*1000/60/60) - 6000 is affected by /set time...is there a way to get the actual ticks that has passed since world start?
L754[22:05:20] <Fatmice> so use a debug card to get the absolute ticks that have passed?
L755[22:05:58] <Kodos> No idea. You mentioned a command that does it and the card can run commands
L756[22:06:12] <Fatmice> oh I see
L757[22:07:16] <payonel> debug card is a creative-only item
L758[22:07:23] <payonel> @fatmice what are you trying to do?
L759[22:07:25] <Fatmice> right, I can't use it then
L760[22:07:44] <Fatmice> I'm trying to keep track of passing ticks...
L761[22:08:14] <ZefTheFox> I don't think it's possible to do it since the world start
L762[22:08:18] <Fatmice> i'm currently in creative, but what I'm writing will be used in non-creative
L763[22:08:22] <ZefTheFox> But you could probably use a computers uptime
L764[22:09:03] <payonel> computer.uptime() gives you the world time since the machine was started
L765[22:09:10] <Fatmice> the issue I've been having is that os.sleep(1) sometimes will give a difference of 72 or 68 os.time() counts
L766[22:09:24] <payonel> yes, sleep is not tick-perfect
L767[22:09:37] <Fatmice> so 20 ticks is somtimes 68 or 72 "counts"
L768[22:09:47] <Fatmice> so 20 ticks is sometimes 68 or 72 "counts" [Edited]
L769[22:10:48] <Fatmice> I can still get away with that, if I normalize it to some-number/[(whatevercount)/72*20 ] to get something/tick
L770[22:11:09] <payonel> we've given you the answer, btw
L771[22:11:09] <Fatmice> the problem is os.time() gets jumped by 65000 or something units when my creative world reset to noon
L772[22:11:11] <payonel> it is computer.uptime
L773[22:11:39] <Fatmice> never used that before, I'll try it now
L774[22:12:01] <payonel> uptime()*20 should be the number of ticks
L775[22:13:42] <Fatmice> oh another question, anyway to interface with integrated dynamics?
L776[22:16:16] <payonel> from the OC side, we don't have any integration added specifically for integrated dynamics
L777[22:16:30] <payonel> mods can add their own oc integration, though, as well
L778[22:17:44] <Fatmice> okay so currently I can only read redstone output from ID then
L779[22:17:57] <Fatmice> thanks
L780[22:31:45] <Kleadron> %loot the under the bed of Inari
L781[22:31:45] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get a loot box! It contains a bottle cap.
L782[22:32:12] <Kleadron> so how is everyone's night/evening/morning/noon/day/youknowwhat
L783[22:48:23] <Izaya> mildly warm
L784[22:48:30] <Izaya> can't decide what to watch while playing Elite: Dangerous
L785[22:54:27] <gamerred> guys how can we change text color on each line to like a diff color?
L786[22:56:34] <payonel> %tonk
L787[22:56:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 6 hours, 59 minutes and 8 seconds this time.
L788[22:56:35] <MichiBot> 3 hours, 37 minutes and 10 seconds were wasted!
L789[22:56:50] <CompanionCube> :3
L790[22:57:15] <payonel> @gamerred setForeground() then write
L791[22:57:18] <payonel> rinse, repeat
L792[22:57:39] <gamerred> wouldnt write keep making new lines?
L793[23:01:28] <payonel> @gamerred "keep making new lines" ?
L794[23:01:42] <gamerred> found my answer write does keep making a new line
L795[23:02:31] <payonel> i'm a bit confused
L796[23:03:36] <gamerred> well if you use write in a while a loop=it will keep pushing it rather then updating pre-esisting value
L797[23:03:51] <gamerred> I need to use it in a while loop without new lines
L798[23:04:10] <payonel> then move the cursor where you want it before you write
L799[23:04:28] <payonel> term.setCursor
L800[23:04:38] <payonel> or vt100 style
L801[23:05:10] <gamerred> found something better that will make it shorter if I use the component gpu
L802[23:05:17] <payonel> i dont have the vt100 code for set cursor memorized ;) but, openos supports it
L803[23:05:33] <gamerred> I use gpu.set
L804[23:05:36] <payonel> yeah, gpu too
L805[23:05:39] <payonel> that's what everything calls
L806[23:06:05] <payonel> i mean, eventually
L807[23:06:09] <gamerred> see with write say the value is A it will keep going like AAAAA which I dont want lol
L808[23:06:25] * payonel screams "AAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
L809[23:07:48] <gamerred> Cause I am thinking with my refine storage code I am working on make the display have like blue shows its less then,green for at and like red if its over
L810[23:08:01] <Izaya> payonel: if you want to see some E:D I'm streaming some, but for the next half hour the main attraction will be the in-flight entertainment
L811[23:08:17] <payonel> Izaya: that raises many questions
L812[23:08:44] <Izaya> I'm way out in the black so I'm watching Andromeda while I go back to the bubble
L813[23:10:09] <gamerred> is there a require so I can be for color of the text be like color.red instead of the hex code?
L814[23:10:38] <Izaya> I think so
L815[23:10:47] <payonel> the colors api is for bundled redstone
L816[23:10:54] <payonel> for rgb, no
L817[23:11:27] <gamerred> ah darn looks like if I want it for rgb I will have to write it ?
L818[23:13:00] <payonel> there is a nice color chart at the bottom of the gpu ocdoc page: https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu
L819[23:14:15] <gamerred> if anything I will use that chart to write a api cause cant we like add our own api?
L820[23:14:43] <payonel> you mean a library you can require() in your own code?
L821[23:14:47] <payonel> if so, definitely
L822[23:14:54] <payonel> i recommend you use /usr/lib
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