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<Kleadron>
first new function in the MiniWindows kernel
<Kleadron>
first new function in the MiniWindows kernelL3[00:02:09] <Kleadron>
setCursorWrite
<Kleadron>
setCursorWriteL4[00:02:15] <Kleadron>
self explanatory
<Kleadron>
self explanatoryL5[00:03:30] ⇨
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L6[00:15:07] <Izaya> https://files.hom.ph/media_attachments/files/000/074/824/original/b1753ec735bd25d9.mp4
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L10[00:34:23] <gamerred>
guys can I get a example of how to use gpu's bind feature to effect
2 screens?
<gamerred>
guys can I get a example of how to use gpu's bind feature to effect
2 screens?L11[00:35:35] <Skye>
@Kleadron you can base it off of miniOS, but I'd like it if you
don't call it NT (I have a plan for that, just need more time), and
also it'd be nice if you kept the same licence so I can ~~steal~~
borrow code back
<Skye>
@Kleadron you can base it off of miniOS, but I'd like it if you
don't call it NT (I have a plan for that, just need more time), and
also it'd be nice if you kept the same licence so I can ~~steal~~
borrow code backL12[00:36:02] <Kleadron>
Ok lol
<Kleadron>
Ok lolL13[00:36:15] <Kleadron>
want me to post the github link
<Kleadron>
want me to post the github linkL14[00:37:21] <Kleadron>
currently it doesnt even have the graphical shell being worked on
since i want to improve the command prompt
<Kleadron>
currently it doesnt even have the graphical shell being worked on
since i want to improve the command promptL15[00:37:35] <Kleadron>
but once that works somewhat well i could start working on the
shell
<Kleadron>
but once that works somewhat well i could start working on the
shellL16[00:37:46] <Izaya> friendly tip
L17[00:38:08] <Izaya> make sure you have a
sane I/O model rather than having to implement 800 different
functions again to make them work in a window
L18[00:38:29] <Kleadron>
Ok
<Kleadron>
OkL19[00:42:08] <gamerred>
figured that out guys how to decide what screen is the main on
multiple screen setups?
<gamerred>
figured that out guys how to decide what screen is the main on
multiple screen setups?L20[00:44:36] <Izaya> highest res and
colour depth
L21[01:19:38] <Skye>
@Kleadron ooh, yeah, I'd like a github link.
<Skye>
@Kleadron ooh, yeah, I'd like a github link.L22[01:19:58] <Kleadron>
nettalk has such a strange notification sound
<Kleadron>
nettalk has such a strange notification soundL23[01:20:09] <Kleadron>
one sec
<Kleadron>
one secL25[01:21:04] <Kleadron>
please do tell me if i have done something completely wrong
<Kleadron>
please do tell me if i have done something completely wrongL26[01:27:31] <Izaya> >like 10 commits
of "deleted single file"
L27[01:28:04] <Mimiru> %tonk
L28[01:28:04] <MichiBot> Mimiru! You beat
CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 29 minutes and 11
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L29[01:28:05] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new
record is 4 hours, 26 minutes and 26 seconds
L30[01:28:34] <Kleadron> i
have no idea how to use github ok
<Kleadron> i
have no idea how to use github okL31[01:34:47] <Izaya> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2
L32[01:36:34] <Izaya> Forget github
L33[01:36:35] <Kleadron>
oh god
<Kleadron>
oh godL34[01:36:44] <Izaya> You must get git
before you git gud
L35[01:37:58] <Kleadron>
do i need to read the entire thing
<Kleadron>
do i need to read the entire thingL36[01:38:47] <Izaya> not really
L37[01:38:57] <Izaya> the man page for git
is probably more than you need tbh
L38[01:39:37] <Izaya> https://manpage.me/index.cgi?q=gitcore-tutorial&sektion=7&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+12-CURRENT+and+Ports
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L40[01:53:53] <Skye>
@Kleadron if you use github desktop, it allows you to commit
multiple changes at once.
<Skye>
@Kleadron if you use github desktop, it allows you to commit
multiple changes at once.L41[01:54:53] <Forecaster>
or any git client
<Forecaster>
or any git clientL42[02:07:15] <Forecaster>
huh... this server has 0 swap usage according to sysstat...
<Forecaster>
huh... this server has 0 swap usage according to sysstat...L43[02:07:20] <Forecaster>
that's weird right?
<Forecaster>
that's weird right?L44[02:08:04] <Izaya> not really
L45[02:08:26] <Forecaster>
even if ram usage gets to 98%?
<Forecaster>
even if ram usage gets to 98%?L46[02:08:34] <Izaya> that's a bit
odd
L47[02:08:41] <Forecaster>
and the server restarts and becomes unresponsive at 2 am every
night
<Forecaster>
and the server restarts and becomes unresponsive at 2 am every
nightL48[02:09:12] <Forecaster>
I'm not sure if it restarts actually, but it stops responding
<Forecaster>
I'm not sure if it restarts actually, but it stops respondingL50[02:10:22] <Forecaster>
I think we need to throw more ram at it :|
<Forecaster>
I think we need to throw more ram at it :|L51[02:17:25] <Izaya> neat statistics
program
L52[02:17:57] <Forecaster>
it's just the output from sysstat?
<Forecaster>
it's just the output from sysstat?L53[03:38:27] ⇦
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L55[03:44:00] <Forecaster>
it might be the redis cache server eating all the ram, but it's
weird that it happens at the same time every night
<Forecaster>
it might be the redis cache server eating all the ram, but it's
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L64[05:29:07] <Forecaster>
%tonk
<Forecaster>
%tonkL65[05:29:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 4 hours,
26 minutes and 26 seconds this time.
L66[05:29:09] <MichiBot> 4 hours, 1 minute
and 2 seconds were wasted!
L67[05:29:31] <Forecaster>
what
<Forecaster>
whatL68[05:29:48] <Forecaster>
oh, darn, I miscalculated
<Forecaster>
oh, darn, I miscalculatedL69[05:29:53] <Forecaster>
>:
<Forecaster>
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L74[06:17:45] <Inari> payonel: https://gist.github.com/Inari-Whitebear/21e07cfc4c40b2efa7610f29e2a99ad4
new and improved! Though not yet tested :P
L75[06:19:47] <Forecaster>
then how do you know it's improved?!
<Forecaster>
then how do you know it's improved?!L76[06:19:53] <Forecaster>
it could be completely broken
<Forecaster>
it could be completely brokenL77[06:19:54] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL78[06:19:54] <Inari> :P
L79[06:20:07] <Inari> Careful, our tongues
may touch
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L81[06:30:24] <Skye> Lewd
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L91[08:21:28] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL92[08:21:52] <Forecaster>
>:
<Forecaster>
>:L93[08:24:48] <Inari> %loot
L94[08:24:48] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a talking spork.
L95[08:24:53] <Inari> Yay
L96[08:30:39] <ArcheRion720> hello, tried to make some
simple program, but can't get used to OC's stuff, any idea why my
program do this? http://tinyurl.com/yd3wn2uk
<ArcheRion720> hello, tried to make some
simple program, but can't get used to OC's stuff, any idea why my
program do this? http://tinyurl.com/yd3wn2ukL97[08:31:38] <MGR> It
looks like the term library is failing
<MGR> It
looks like the term library is failingL98[08:31:45] <ArcheRion720> but why?
<ArcheRion720> but why?L99[08:31:50] <MGR> I'm
not quite sure
<MGR> I'm
not quite sureL100[08:32:17] <MGR>
Perhaps there's some peculiarity in your code that's making it do
that, but nothing stands out on first glance. That being said, I'm
not very familiar with the term library internals
<MGR>
Perhaps there's some peculiarity in your code that's making it do
that, but nothing stands out on first glance. That being said, I'm
not very familiar with the term library internalsL101[08:33:39] <ArcheRion720> hm, in this case i use term
api to either write text or set cursor position, is there any
alternative?
<ArcheRion720> hm, in this case i use term
api to either write text or set cursor position, is there any
alternative?L102[08:34:38] <MGR> You
can use print to write text, and I think you can interact with the
gpu component directly to set the cursor position
<MGR> You
can use print to write text, and I think you can interact with the
gpu component directly to set the cursor positionL103[08:35:47] <ArcheRion720> i don't see anything with
gpu to move cursor
<ArcheRion720> i don't see anything with
gpu to move cursorL104[08:35:55] <ArcheRion720> i don't see anything with
gpu to move cursor in docs [Edited]
<ArcheRion720> i don't see anything with
gpu to move cursor in docs [Edited]L105[08:36:32] <MGR> Ah,
that's unfortunate
<MGR> Ah,
that's unfortunateL106[08:36:55] <MGR> Try
replacing the text print parts of your term calls, and see if that
fixes it
<MGR> Try
replacing the text print parts of your term calls, and see if that
fixes itL107[08:40:55] <ArcheRion720> nope
<ArcheRion720> nopeL108[08:41:19] <MGR> Send
the new code please?
<MGR> Send
the new code please?L109[08:41:31] <Izaya> if you're moving
the cursor, using VT100 escape codes should work
L110[08:41:47] <Izaya> \27[20,20H should
move the cursor t0 20,20
L111[08:42:26] <MGR>
"If you're not committing felonies across multiple continents,
then what the hell are we paying you for"? --- Quote 1/2
<MGR>
"If you're not committing felonies across multiple continents,
then what the hell are we paying you for"? --- Quote 1/2L112[08:44:40] <Izaya> is that a position
as a cartel enforcer or cyberpunk internal security or
L113[08:45:00] <MGR> D) All
of the above
<MGR> D) All
of the aboveL115[08:48:04] <ArcheRion720> well, don't seem to
move
<ArcheRion720> well, don't seem to
moveL117[08:49:34] <Izaya> so you io.write()'d
that?
L118[08:49:42] <ArcheRion720> printed
<ArcheRion720> printedL119[08:49:49] <ArcheRion720> print()'ed [Edited]
<ArcheRion720> print()'ed [Edited]L120[08:53:03] <Izaya> huh
L121[08:53:22] <Izaya> must be an old
version
L122[08:54:02] <MGR> Fair
point. You should try updating your OpenOS version, which you can
do by updating OC, crafting/creative moding a new install disk, and
installing OpenOS again
<MGR> Fair
point. You should try updating your OpenOS version, which you can
do by updating OC, crafting/creative moding a new install disk, and
installing OpenOS againL123[08:55:15] <ArcheRion720> well, playing on modpack,
but i've seen people who had no problem with that on it
<ArcheRion720> well, playing on modpack,
but i've seen people who had no problem with that on itL124[08:55:58] <MGR> Try a
different computer just to be safe?
<MGR> Try a
different computer just to be safe?L125[08:56:31] <ArcheRion720> just in case: OC version is
1.6.2.7 here
<ArcheRion720> just in case: OC version is
1.6.2.7 hereL126[09:07:13] <ArcheRion720> okay, found issue, i'm such
an dumbas
<ArcheRion720> okay, found issue, i'm such
an dumbasL127[09:07:14] <ArcheRion720> okay, found issue, i'm such
an dumbass [Edited]
<ArcheRion720> okay, found issue, i'm such
an dumbass [Edited]L128[09:07:43] <ArcheRion720> `term.setCursor(StartColumn
+ math.floor((Width - #Text)/2))` it would be nice to say y,
wouldn't it?
<ArcheRion720> `term.setCursor(StartColumn
+ math.floor((Width - #Text)/2))` it would be nice to say y,
wouldn't it?L129[09:10:20] <MGR>
"The physical hardware is also 'hacked to the teeth'. I don't
want to see whatever homebuilt gamer box he has in there." ---
Quote 2/2
<MGR>
"The physical hardware is also 'hacked to the teeth'. I don't
want to see whatever homebuilt gamer box he has in there." ---
Quote 2/2L130[09:55:37] <Kleadron>
%loot%
<Kleadron>
%loot%L131[09:55:37] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You
get a loot box! It contains a rickety gazebo.
L132[10:08:29] <Temia> Oh, the lootbox is
back?
L133[10:08:39] <Temia> %tonk
L134[10:08:39] <MichiBot> Temia! You beat
Mimiru's previous record of 4 hours, 26 minutes and 26 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L135[10:08:40] <MichiBot> Temia's new
record is 4 hours, 39 minutes and 32 seconds
L136[10:08:57] <Temia> The winnah and new
champeen
L137[10:09:33] <ArcheRion720> %loot%
<ArcheRion720> %loot%L138[10:09:33] <MichiBot> ArcheRion720:
You get a loot box! It contains cheese residue.
L139[10:11:17] <ArcheRion720> also, question, i don't
really get what docs means with driver mode of events, i just call
listen and i'm good or do i need to run it via other program?
<ArcheRion720> also, question, i don't
really get what docs means with driver mode of events, i just call
listen and i'm good or do i need to run it via other program?L140[10:11:49] <MGR> You
just call event.listen and you're good
<MGR> You
just call event.listen and you're goodL141[10:14:49] <Lizzian>
dammit Temia
<Lizzian>
dammit TemiaL142[10:14:52] <Lizzian>
:<
<Lizzian>
:<L143[10:14:59] <Lizzian> i
wanted to be the tonk tween
<Lizzian> i
wanted to be the tonk tweenL144[10:15:08] <Lizzian>
*queen
<Lizzian>
*queenL145[10:15:28] *
Temia aws and hugs
L146[10:15:33] <Temia> I'll hold off on
the tonking for a while then
L147[10:16:03] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
hugs back and purrs
L148[10:16:04] <Lizzian>
it's fine
<Lizzian>
it's fineL149[10:16:32] <Lizzian> i
was calculating and was like "aha! i can do it" then i
saw you had done it and was like "nuuu"
<Lizzian> i
was calculating and was like "aha! i can do it" then i
saw you had done it and was like "nuuu"L150[10:18:13] <Forecaster>
I need to expand it to reset every so often and keep a
leaderboard
<Forecaster>
I need to expand it to reset every so often and keep a
leaderboardL151[10:18:15] <Forecaster>
but busy
<Forecaster>
but busyL152[10:18:28] <Forecaster>
and I should probably fix the inventory first
<Forecaster>
and I should probably fix the inventory firstL153[10:18:43] <Lizzian>
%loot
<Lizzian>
%lootL154[10:18:43] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get
a loot box! It contains an empty drive slot.
L155[10:18:50] <Lizzian>
%pet Lizzian
<Lizzian>
%pet LizzianL156[10:18:51] *
MichiBot brushes Lizzian with a toothbrush. 1 health
gained!
L157[10:18:55] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
purrs
L158[10:19:57] <Temia> D'aw
L159[10:20:03] <Temia> %pet Lizzian
L160[10:20:04] *
MichiBot pets Lizzian with more spiked pudding. 4 health
gained!
L161[10:20:09] <Temia> ...WHY
L162[10:20:24] <Temia> %inv add
anti-pudding
L163[10:20:24] *
MichiBot summons 'anti-pudding' and adds to her inventory. I could
get some good swings in with this.
L165[10:21:41] <MGR> You
want to put local in front of your variables and functions
<MGR> You
want to put local in front of your variables and functionsL166[10:21:49] <MGR>
probably won't fix your problem, but it's good practice
<MGR>
probably won't fix your problem, but it's good practiceL167[10:22:50] <MGR> Also,
your code will only run when you receive touch events
<MGR> Also,
your code will only run when you receive touch eventsL168[10:23:11] <ArcheRion720> indeed, and when i touched
screen nothing happend
<ArcheRion720> indeed, and when i touched
screen nothing happendL169[10:23:40] <MGR> Mind
if I PM you some sample code?
<MGR> Mind
if I PM you some sample code?L170[10:23:44] <ArcheRion720> sure
<ArcheRion720> sureL171[10:24:01] <ArcheRion720> sure, feel free to send
[Edited]
<ArcheRion720> sure, feel free to send
[Edited]L172[10:29:05]
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L174[10:32:26] <gamerred> I
dont know if this is possible but can open computers read the in
game chat?
<gamerred> I
dont know if this is possible but can open computers read the in
game chat?L175[10:32:44] <MGR>
Computronics chat box will allow that
<MGR>
Computronics chat box will allow thatL176[10:34:03] <gamerred>
my idea is to make it where I can add new items without having to
close and reload my program if possible
<gamerred>
my idea is to make it where I can add new items without having to
close and reload my program if possibleL177[10:37:01] <gamerred>
btw if I make a function can I make it where I can push to my table
via like name,damage,label,amount,disp? just so its a lil easier to
add filters?
<gamerred>
btw if I make a function can I make it where I can push to my table
via like name,damage,label,amount,disp? just so its a lil easier to
add filters?L178[10:38:03] <MGR> Can
you clarify that second statement?
<MGR> Can
you clarify that second statement?L179[10:39:59] <gamerred>
like how I add items I gotta do currently table = {{name = item
name here,damage=damage here,label=its label,amount=how much to
store,disp=if its displayed on screen or not}} I was wondering if I
can do like add(item name,damage value,label,how many,if its
displayed without doing like name ?
<gamerred>
like how I add items I gotta do currently table = {{name = item
name here,damage=damage here,label=its label,amount=how much to
store,disp=if its displayed on screen or not}} I was wondering if I
can do like add(item name,damage value,label,how many,if its
displayed without doing like name ?L180[10:40:35] <MGR> You
can write a function call add with those perameters that adds it to
the table for you
<MGR> You
can write a function call add with those perameters that adds it to
the table for youL181[10:40:40] <MGR> You
can write a function called add with those perameters that adds it
to the table for you [Edited]
<MGR> You
can write a function called add with those perameters that adds it
to the table for you [Edited]L182[10:40:57] <Inari> %pet Temia
L183[10:40:58] *
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L184[10:41:01] <Inari> :3
L185[10:41:09] <gamerred>
awesome cool I know how to write functions just didnt know if its
possible to push to table with it yet thx
<gamerred>
awesome cool I know how to write functions just didnt know if its
possible to push to table with it yet thxL186[10:41:20] <MGR> You're
welcome
<MGR> You're
welcomeL187[10:42:38] <gamerred>
It just makes it easier to add new items thats why I wanna do it
that way
<gamerred>
It just makes it easier to add new items thats why I wanna do it
that wayL188[10:43:57] <gamerred>
yeah at first I thought that with tables you had to use the ones
that are pre-existing values didnt know you can add customs then do
like . customname
<gamerred>
yeah at first I thought that with tables you had to use the ones
that are pre-existing values didnt know you can add customs then do
like . customnameL189[10:45:48] <gamerred>
which it shouldve hit me when they made the nbt syntax they had to
add those values themself lol
<gamerred>
which it shouldve hit me when they made the nbt syntax they had to
add those values themself lolL190[10:48:20] <gamerred>
so its just like I am doing table manually to make the function
right just instead of adding each items I just add like place
holders in there place right?
<gamerred>
so its just like I am doing table manually to make the function
right just instead of adding each items I just add like place
holders in there place right?L191[10:48:54] <MGR> Can
you rephrase that?
<MGR> Can
you rephrase that?L192[10:49:15] <Inari> %moo so its just
like I am doing table manually to make the function right just
instead of adding each items I just add like place holders in there
place right?
L193[10:49:15] <MichiBot> soo its joost
like I am dooing table manooally too make the foonctioon right
joost instead oof adding each items I joost add like place hoolders
in there place right?
L194[10:49:30] <Inari> > oof
L195[10:49:43] <gamerred> I
mean like since its a table say my value for name is called field1
I just do in the return {name = field1} correct?
<gamerred> I
mean like since its a table say my value for name is called field1
I just do in the return {name = field1} correct?L196[10:51:03] <gamerred> I
dont know if adding new table editions via a function is different
then say string,number what not just need to know if there is
anything special to add if its a table or not
<gamerred> I
dont know if adding new table editions via a function is different
then say string,number what not just need to know if there is
anything special to add if its a table or notL197[10:52:36] <MGR> The
first statement is correct, I think
<MGR> The
first statement is correct, I thinkL198[10:53:05] <MGR> The
perameters for a function don't need to be special if they're a
table
<MGR> The
perameters for a function don't need to be special if they're a
tableL199[10:53:59] *
Temia suplexes Inari
L200[10:54:10] <gamerred>
well dont matter what it gots to output like name = string,damage =
number and what not so I might have to do like name = the fields
lol
<gamerred>
well dont matter what it gots to output like name = string,damage =
number and what not so I might have to do like name = the fields
lolL201[10:58:05] <gamerred>
lol it reverses the order by default it reads right
<gamerred>
lol it reverses the order by default it reads rightL202[11:00:24] <gamerred>
dont get how it reversed there order lol
<gamerred>
dont get how it reversed there order lolL203[11:02:00] <Inari> Temia: D: You're
always so mean
L204[11:02:11] <Inari> @MGR perameters
:D
L205[11:02:36] <Temia> %pet Inari
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gained!
L207[11:02:44] <Inari> Heh
L208[11:02:51] <MGR> I cann
bee spall gud u no? ¯\_(ăƒ„)_/¯
<MGR> I cann
bee spall gud u no? ¯\_(ăƒ„)_/¯L209[11:02:53] <Kleadron>
?
<Kleadron>
?L210[11:03:24] <Kleadron>
the only thing you spelled right is "I"
<Kleadron>
the only thing you spelled right is "I"L211[11:03:42] <MGR> Eye
deed, thonk u
<MGR> Eye
deed, thonk uL212[11:04:26] ⇦
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L214[11:05:41] <gamerred>
something has to be going wrong its using the function even if I am
tryping the function name wrong in a test code lol
<gamerred>
something has to be going wrong its using the function even if I am
tryping the function name wrong in a test code lolL215[11:06:16] <Compu> put
the code in a normal editor and ctrl+f the function name? maybe
it's being called somewhere else?
<Compu> put
the code in a normal editor and ctrl+f the function name? maybe
it's being called somewhere else?L216[11:07:59] <gamerred>
its not oddly only functions is filter,testd, and testr its calling
filter even if I am typing filer or any text it dont matter as long
as the stuff in the () has 5 values
<gamerred>
its not oddly only functions is filter,testd, and testr its calling
filter even if I am typing filer or any text it dont matter as long
as the stuff in the () has 5 valuesL217[11:08:06] <MGR> Is the
function marked local?
<MGR> Is the
function marked local?L218[11:08:41] <gamerred>
tried both with and without local and its doing the same
<gamerred>
tried both with and without local and its doing the sameL219[11:08:53] <MGR> We'd
have to see the code
<MGR> We'd
have to see the codeL220[11:10:44] <gamerred>
wasnt it f12 to screenshot or should I just paste the code thats
giving errors here since its just 3 lines?
<gamerred>
wasnt it f12 to screenshot or should I just paste the code thats
giving errors here since its just 3 lines?L221[11:11:15] <Inari> AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/NiTCFwP o.o
L222[11:11:59] <Forecaster>
spider cat
<Forecaster>
spider catL223[11:12:10] <MGR> We'd
prefer a pastebin of the code
<MGR> We'd
prefer a pastebin of the codeL224[11:15:08] <gamerred> k
need to get the pastebin link
<gamerred> k
need to get the pastebin linkL225[11:16:01] <gamerred>
http://pastebin.com/mLAnwUcX see both of thosoe
under the function is calling the function
<gamerred>
http://pastebin.com/mLAnwUcX see both of thosoe
under the function is calling the functionL226[11:17:32] <gamerred>
Top 1 calling it is expected cause its right however bottom is
wrong so it shouldnt
<gamerred>
Top 1 calling it is expected cause its right however bottom is
wrong so it shouldntL227[11:18:16] <gamerred>
also on top its flipping the order of the stuff in {} so the 5th
one is coming first
<gamerred>
also on top its flipping the order of the stuff in {} so the 5th
one is coming firstL228[11:20:39] <Michiyo> %tonk
L229[11:20:39] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Michiyo, you were not able to beat Temia's record of 4 hours, 39
minutes and 32 seconds this time.
L230[11:20:40] <MichiBot> 1 hour and 12
minutes were wasted!
L231[11:21:12] <Temia> Mwahahaha
L232[11:22:47] <Michiyo> :P
L233[11:28:20] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/CjUXqNJ heh
L234[11:30:52] <Forecaster>
I'm suspicious of that sheep
<Forecaster>
I'm suspicious of that sheepL235[11:31:33] <Kleadron> i
want a fluffy dog like that
<Kleadron> i
want a fluffy dog like thatL236[11:32:14] <gamerred>
lol thats not a dog ?
<gamerred>
lol thats not a dog ?L237[11:32:31] <Kleadron>
:GWfroggyAngryEyes:
<Kleadron>
:GWfroggyAngryEyes:L238[11:33:52] <MGR> I
think that's a dog
<MGR> I
think that's a dogL239[11:34:21] <gamerred>
yeah it is a dog was kidding lol
<gamerred>
yeah it is a dog was kidding lolL240[11:34:56] <gamerred>
ok with my code found out it only reads it if I type
filter,filterd,filtere or filterz else it dont read the filter
code
<gamerred>
ok with my code found out it only reads it if I type
filter,filterd,filtere or filterz else it dont read the filter
codeL241[11:35:09] <gamerred>
it should be only filter how its coded
<gamerred>
it should be only filter how its codedL242[11:36:01] <gamerred>
know by any chance why its always reversing the layout?
<gamerred>
know by any chance why its always reversing the layout?L243[12:20:47]
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L244[12:21:55] <Forecaster>
sigh
<Forecaster>
sighL245[12:21:58] <Forecaster>
I hate magento
<Forecaster>
I hate magentoL246[12:24:44] <Kleadron> magentno?
L247[12:31:01] <MGR>
https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/88tppa/do_u_know_what_minecraft_is/
<MGR>
https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/88tppa/do_u_know_what_minecraft_is/L248[12:34:48] <Forecaster>
I hate it so much...
<Forecaster>
I hate it so much...L249[12:35:01] <Forecaster>
I'd rather face Magneto
<Forecaster>
I'd rather face MagnetoL250[12:36:36] <Kleadron>
What is magento
<Kleadron>
What is magentoL251[12:36:46] <Kleadron>
it is undefined
<Kleadron>
it is undefinedL252[12:36:52] <Kleadron>
you must define it before you can use it
<Kleadron>
you must define it before you can use itL253[12:37:01] <Forecaster>
Magento is a webstore system
<Forecaster>
Magento is a webstore systemL254[12:37:44] <Kleadron>
Ok
<Kleadron>
OkL255[12:42:10] <Forecaster>
time to escape home before the site goes down again.
<Forecaster>
time to escape home before the site goes down again.L256[13:02:40] <Warior4356>
Robot’s ability to know where it is. Is there any way to do it in
absolute cords rather than relative?
<Warior4356>
Robot’s ability to know where it is. Is there any way to do it in
absolute cords rather than relative?L257[13:07:59] <payonel>
what tool to mc server admins run that generates those pretty
profiles of method calls sorted by inclusive call cost
<payonel>
what tool to mc server admins run that generates those pretty
profiles of method calls sorted by inclusive call costL258[13:10:26] ⇦
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L260[13:12:39] <MGR>
@Warior4356 You can have a central waypoint that you know the
absolute coordinates and convert relative position from it
<MGR>
@Warior4356 You can have a central waypoint that you know the
absolute coordinates and convert relative position from itL261[13:13:10] <Warior4356>
That could work ya
<Warior4356>
That could work yaL262[13:22:51] <Warior4356>
I’m wanting to build an ore finding robot, I’m trying to figure out
what’s the best behavior here. Should it search in columns, finding
all ore in its radius each Y level or should it search more
relative, finding new ore after it mined the old bit of ore?
<Warior4356>
I’m wanting to build an ore finding robot, I’m trying to figure out
what’s the best behavior here. Should it search in columns, finding
all ore in its radius each Y level or should it search more
relative, finding new ore after it mined the old bit of ore?L263[13:23:38] <Warior4356>
I think columns is more accurate.
<Warior4356>
I think columns is more accurate.L264[13:24:17] <Warior4356>
But would lose some efficiency....
<Warior4356>
But would lose some efficiency....L265[13:27:58] <MGR> It
depends on what balance you want
<MGR> It
depends on what balance you wantL266[13:31:31] <Michiyo> @payonel
warmroast?
L267[13:31:48] <Michiyo> https://github.com/sk89q/WarmRoast
L268[13:32:01] <Michiyo> that's the one I
used to use anyway
L269[13:32:05] <Michiyo> long long
ago
L270[13:32:49] <payonel>
vex told me about the jdk's visualizer and Player's sampler
<payonel>
vex told me about the jdk's visualizer and Player's samplerL271[13:32:51] <payonel>
i'll use those
<payonel>
i'll use thoseL272[13:32:59] <Michiyo> yeah
L273[13:33:11] <payonel>
also, how is the bouncer?
<payonel>
also, how is the bouncer?L274[13:33:26] <payonel> oh look, it's
back up
L275[13:33:28] <payonel> :)
L276[13:34:05] <Michiyo> It.. went
down?
L277[13:34:12] <payonel> this morning i
couldn't connect
L278[13:34:18] <payonel> must have been
user error
L279[13:34:19] <payonel> :)
L280[13:34:22] *
Michiyo shrugs
L281[13:40:35] <Warior4356>
It would be a bit more complex but the best compromise seems to be
combining columns with local search. So it can mine out whole
deposits before returning to its central shaft.
<Warior4356>
It would be a bit more complex but the best compromise seems to be
combining columns with local search. So it can mine out whole
deposits before returning to its central shaft.L282[13:44:50] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L283[14:00:56] ⇦
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L285[14:11:09] <ZefTheFox>
So I wouldn't be surprised if this was fixed in one of the dev
builds but from underneath floppy disks have no texture when in the
rack disk drive
<ZefTheFox>
So I wouldn't be surprised if this was fixed in one of the dev
builds but from underneath floppy disks have no texture when in the
rack disk driveL286[14:18:56] ⇦
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L288[14:28:16] <payonel> @ZefTheFox uh
no
L289[14:28:26] <payonel> i've definitely
not heard of nor messed with that
L290[14:30:04] <ZefTheFox>
Well it's just a graphical thing that doesn't matter much http://tinyurl.com/y7rvuj72
<ZefTheFox>
Well it's just a graphical thing that doesn't matter much http://tinyurl.com/y7rvuj72L292[14:30:16] <ZefTheFox>
Disk is still in the drive
<ZefTheFox>
Disk is still in the driveL293[14:30:52] <payonel> cut a
ticket
L294[14:30:59] <payonel> with those
screenshots, please
L295[14:31:30] <gerard>
literally unplayable
<gerard>
literally unplayableL296[14:31:30] <Wuerfel_21>
Is this on fast graphics only? I don't rmember wether or not these
are using the regular item-on-ground drawing
<Wuerfel_21>
Is this on fast graphics only? I don't rmember wether or not these
are using the regular item-on-ground drawingL297[14:34:00] <ZefTheFox>
Let me test
<ZefTheFox>
Let me testL298[14:34:19] <ZefTheFox>
Oh it is only on fast graphics
<ZefTheFox>
Oh it is only on fast graphicsL299[14:34:20] <ZefTheFox>
weird
<ZefTheFox>
weirdL300[14:35:38] <Wuerfel_21>
no, makes perfect sense
<Wuerfel_21>
no, makes perfect senseL301[14:36:17] <ZefTheFox>
Should I still submit a ticket?
<ZefTheFox>
Should I still submit a ticket?L302[14:36:41] <Wuerfel_21>
on fast graphics, items are drawn as 2D sprites. But apparently,
the culling mode isn't changed to NONE, thus the back side
dissapears.
<Wuerfel_21>
on fast graphics, items are drawn as 2D sprites. But apparently,
the culling mode isn't changed to NONE, thus the back side
dissapears.L303[14:36:41] <Wuerfel_21>
Yes, a ticket should be flagged.
<Wuerfel_21>
Yes, a ticket should be flagged.L304[14:36:47] <Wuerfel_21>
on fast graphics, items are drawn as 2D sprites. But apparently,
the culling mode isn't changed to NONE, thus the back side
dissapears.
<Wuerfel_21>
on fast graphics, items are drawn as 2D sprites. But apparently,
the culling mode isn't changed to NONE, thus the back side
dissapears.L305[14:36:47] <Wuerfel_21>
Yes, a ticket should be submitted. [Edited]
<Wuerfel_21>
Yes, a ticket should be submitted. [Edited]L306[14:38:27] <ZefTheFox>
submitted
<ZefTheFox>
submittedL307[14:50:04] <payonel> @Wuerfel_21
thanks for asking that point. can you please explain this in the
ticket as well
L308[14:50:16] <payonel> i won't be
looking at this in the near future
L309[14:54:27] <ZefTheFox>
I'll stick it in as a comment
<ZefTheFox>
I'll stick it in as a commentL310[14:54:33] <ZefTheFox>
unless Wuerfel wants to
<ZefTheFox>
unless Wuerfel wants toL311[15:04:22] <Kleadron>
github desktop client is pretty cool
<Kleadron>
github desktop client is pretty coolL312[15:19:17] ⇦
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L313[15:21:03] <Kleadron> i
felt like 4 gigabytes of ram a while ago was small, now i have 8
gigabytes of ram and it still feels like its a small amount
<Kleadron> i
felt like 4 gigabytes of ram a while ago was small, now i have 8
gigabytes of ram and it still feels like its a small amountL314[15:22:15] <Kleadron>
you know what using ripcord instead of discord would probably help
a little bit
<Kleadron>
you know what using ripcord instead of discord would probably help
a little bitL315[15:22:46] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=power9-threadripper-core9&num=3
L316[15:23:10] <Izaya> Kleadron: probably,
running multiple web browsers is p heavy
L317[15:23:49] <Kleadron> and im gona use
irc to talk here because ripcord doesnt like to update the images
and names of webhooks
L318[15:24:12] <Kleadron> so it makes it
look like inari is saying everything but in reality izaya said my
username
L319[15:24:54] <Izaya> Quality.
L320[15:26:05] <Forecaster>
Sneak 100
<Forecaster>
Sneak 100L321[15:29:27] <Inari> Works fine for
me
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L323[15:37:14] <Kleadron> it is
13:37
L324[15:37:29] <Wuerfel_21>
no it's 22:37 ?
<Wuerfel_21>
no it's 22:37 ?L325[15:37:39] <Kleadron> says u
L326[15:37:48] <AmandaC> 16:37 in the
OTTZ
L327[15:38:03] <Kleadron> everything is
ruined now
L328[15:41:43] <Forecaster>
It's every time, at the same time
<Forecaster>
It's every time, at the same timeL329[15:41:44] <Forecaster>
There
<Forecaster>
ThereL330[15:43:29] <Inari> AmandaC: That a
lewd timezone
L331[15:43:33] <Inari> *What a
L332[15:43:35] <Wuerfel_21>
4 Simultaneous Days Rotate In Same 24 Hours Of Earth
<Wuerfel_21>
4 Simultaneous Days Rotate In Same 24 Hours Of EarthL333[15:47:10] <AmandaC> Inari: I could
call it Tuesday and you'd find a way to make it lewd, though.
:P
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L336[16:00:16] <Inari> AmandaC: Nah,
Tuesday is pretty unlewd
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L338[16:00:49] <payonel> wednesday, aka
"hump day" in the US, is definitely the most lewd
day
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L340[16:02:14] <Inari> Wesdnesday is also
the name of a female character
L341[16:13:53] <asie> %tonk
L342[16:13:53] <MichiBot> asie! You beat
Temia's previous record of 4 hours, 39 minutes and 32 seconds! I
hope you're happy!
L343[16:13:54] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 4 hours, 53 minutes and 13 seconds
L344[16:38:27] <Inari> Heh
L345[16:53:21] <Warior4356>
The heck?
<Warior4356>
The heck?L346[16:53:22] <Warior4356>
The heck?
<Warior4356>
The heck?L347[16:54:15] <Warior4356>
That moment when it slowly dawns on you, almost everything clever
you want to do with a robot is done better with other mods.
<Warior4356>
That moment when it slowly dawns on you, almost everything clever
you want to do with a robot is done better with other mods.L348[16:55:17] <Warior4356>
Grow trees? Forestry. Mining? Like 4 different mods.
<Warior4356>
Grow trees? Forestry. Mining? Like 4 different mods.L349[16:57:03] <payonel> oc isn't better
because it is does a job "better", but because you can
treat your automation as a software-run system
L350[17:00:07] <Izaya> the real
question
L351[17:00:09] <Izaya> which is more
fun
L352[17:00:38] <payonel> well yeah, that's
why i quoted "better"
L353[17:04:00] <Inari> payonel: I feel it
should have its own unique advantages, or even cases where its
required. But the MC modding landscape isn't laid out for that.
YOu'd need a gmae designed for it. Or possibly a modpack. But that
would mean modifying or creating a lot of mods. The former has
issues with their creators, the latter is a ton of work.
L354[17:05:04] <payonel> Inari: but for
someone like me, having the option to write code to automation an
action is a unique advantage
L355[17:05:21] <payonel> the tree and the
wood isn't my goal, the goal is having written code to automate
it
L356[17:05:52] <payonel> yes, it is a
"ton of work". playing games is a "ton of work"
... if time == work
L357[17:06:01] <payonel> for someone like
me, writing code IS the goal, IS the fun
L358[17:06:28] <payonel> now...but,
"is the fog funny?"
L359[17:06:47] <payonel> i hope we don't
add tedium to oc for tedium's sake
L360[17:07:03] <payonel> i think our
design should simplfiy away a lot of the complexities of the real
world
L361[17:07:18] <Inari> The only thing I
referred to as a ton of work is making a whole modpack worth of
mods that fit OC :D
L362[17:07:41] <payonel> but everything
already fits OC
L363[17:07:46] <payonel> i'm confused,
honestly
L364[17:08:09] <payonel> i can wield an
axe on my robot, and swing the wood blocks of a tree. fits
L365[17:08:44] <payonel> yeah, i put
forestry's tree block down, power it, and done, i have my
wood
L366[17:08:47] <Inari> But you have no
mods that require computers, or having unique advantages due to
OC
L367[17:09:03] <payonel> in my opinion,
for my style of gameplay, you are looking at it wrong
L368[17:09:11] <payonel> oc adds the piece
missing, the part that makes it fun
L369[17:09:19] <payonel> that is, writing
the code to do those things
L370[17:09:19] <Inari> And I'm not sure I
agree, simplifying away complexity also means you can do less
L371[17:09:30] <payonel> ALL mods make a
requirement that is OC
L372[17:11:14] <Inari> Sure, just doing
something you can find fun can be nice in of itself, but at that
point the game becomes meaningless?
L373[17:11:21] <Inari> You can write more
useful automation code for other stuff
L374[17:14:59] <Forecaster>
There's no meaning to any game beyond what you make of it :P
<Forecaster>
There's no meaning to any game beyond what you make of it :PL375[17:15:27] <payonel> i was afk, back
now
L376[17:15:37] <Forecaster>
(Unless someone is going to give you a physical prize for playing
it)
<Forecaster>
(Unless someone is going to give you a physical prize for playing
it)L377[17:15:40] <payonel> Inari: i used to
play a lot of starcraft
L378[17:15:51] <payonel> and then i
enjoyed starcraft 2
L379[17:16:12] <payonel> then i was
thinking...what build order would give me 50 marines the
fastest?
L380[17:16:23] <payonel> there are
trade-offs for more farms now, more barracks now, etc
L381[17:16:39] <payonel> and, what if i
want 20 marines fastest, but then 50 soon after?
L382[17:16:45] <payonel> and so i built a
build-order planner
L383[17:16:54] <payonel> sc, for me,
became loads more
L384[17:17:03] <payonel> the more i built
my planning tool, the more i played the game
L385[17:17:37] <payonel> another time i
was playing baulder's gate. i wanted get a really good dice roll
for my character
L386[17:18:17] <payonel> so...i wrote a
tool that would click the mouse for me, use OCR to read how good
the roll was, and then (it was also running in a vm) take a
snapshot of the vm if it was the best roll, and keep rolling
L387[17:18:21] <payonel> i let that run
for a week
L388[17:19:12] <payonel> another time i
was playing oblivion. i didn't like that it required the disc to
play the game. so i hacked the binary and found the condition that
checked for the disc. I wrote a tool that helped me detect it ..
and
L389[17:19:22] <payonel> anyways, this is
where i find fun in games. when i can write code for them
L390[17:19:33] <payonel> oc lets me do
that IN the game, and not as a tool outside of the game
L391[17:19:36] <payonel> and i think that
is really fun
L392[17:21:16] <Izaya> I don't even play
Minecraft, just do OC stuff tbh
L393[17:29:26] <payonel> Inari: i think my
examples were bad because in those cases, nothing else (like a mod)
did that for me, i had to do it myself
L394[17:29:47] <payonel> and i still think
doing some things with oc is just too much work, so i use other
mods to do it
L395[17:30:05] <payonel> like, i haven't
programmed a fully oc managed inventory system ... i just use
ae
L396[17:31:27] <Inari> @Forecaster My
point was that the game doesnt' contribute :D
L397[17:32:50] <Inari> payonel: I just
feel OC should have a point besides "this allows you to write
code"
L398[17:33:11] <Inari> Computeres are so
big in the world because they're useful, not because people find it
fun to program them :D
L399[17:36:22] <Kleadron> some people like
going through hell though
L400[17:40:15] <payonel> Inari: i think
you're right
L401[17:40:31] <payonel> the first thing
OC should have is fewer bugs :)
L402[17:40:47] <payonel> which....1.7.3
should have
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L405[18:06:22] <Kleadron> i need to not
half ass the directory support and see if i can make it work a lot
better
L406[18:06:33] <Kleadron> in MiniWindows
command prompt
L407[18:08:26] <Izaya> isn't the miniOS
support a little off?
L408[18:17:29] <Izaya> bam! and the vlans
are gone
L409[18:22:45] <CompanionCube> lol
L410[18:54:53] <ZefTheFox>
If I ever learn java I want to make an addon for
opencomputers
<ZefTheFox>
If I ever learn java I want to make an addon for
opencomputersL411[18:55:11] <ZefTheFox>
That in a way could be considered a sister addon of
openprinters
<ZefTheFox>
That in a way could be considered a sister addon of
openprintersL412[18:56:23] <ZefTheFox>
***Thermal printers***
<ZefTheFox>
***Thermal printers***L413[18:56:44] <ZefTheFox>
and maybe expand that into a generalized shop making mod
<ZefTheFox>
and maybe expand that into a generalized shop making modL414[18:58:56] <AmandaC> You could always
write one in kotlin
L415[18:59:09] <AmandaC> Like my buttsmod
that will never see the light of day
L416[18:59:50] <AmandaC> Provides a block
which says a random message from a configurable list in chat
L417[19:00:23] <ZefTheFox>
lol
<ZefTheFox>
lolL418[19:00:39] <ZefTheFox>
Would kotlin be capable of having compatibility with
opencomputers?
<ZefTheFox>
Would kotlin be capable of having compatibility with
opencomputers?L419[19:01:06] <AmandaC> Kotlin is
designed to be interiperable with java
L420[19:01:41] <AmandaC> It doesn't
introduce many ceazy-new ideas and what it does has a basis in Java
already
L421[19:02:26] <AmandaC> Well, I guess
coroutines is an exception to that rule
L422[19:02:56] <AmandaC> (unrelated to Lua
coroutines)
L423[19:03:30] <ZefTheFox>
weird
<ZefTheFox>
weirdL424[19:03:43] <ZefTheFox>
tbh I haven't really been a fan of object oriented stuff
<ZefTheFox>
tbh I haven't really been a fan of object oriented stuffL425[19:04:55] <ZefTheFox>
and while I have the idea now it doesn't mean I'll have the
dedication to actually do something with ti
<ZefTheFox>
and while I have the idea now it doesn't mean I'll have the
dedication to actually do something with tiL426[19:04:57] <ZefTheFox>
and while I have the idea now it doesn't mean I'll have the
dedication to actually do something with it [Edited]
<ZefTheFox>
and while I have the idea now it doesn't mean I'll have the
dedication to actually do something with it [Edited]L427[19:07:16] <AmandaC> payonel:
<unsolicited-rant> I had a bit of a think re: Ms trying to
make "intellisense" a more general thing. The concept of
a context / language aware tab complete having a unique / general
name makes some sense, having used vim / emacs ideas of tab
complete. It's s totally different level between them. And while
for some languages (like go) vim / emacs get close, it's very much
in spite of the editor's tab completion frameworks, not
because
L428[19:07:16] <AmandaC> of them.
</Unsolicited-rant>
L429[19:10:25] <AmandaC> I wonder how hard
it'd be to make a program / ps oneliner to count the number of
individual "projects" I have in my ~/Code
L430[19:11:44] <Z0idburg>
so
<Z0idburg>
soL431[19:12:57] <Izaya> don't leave us
hanging this time
L432[19:14:42] <ZefTheFox>
~~I didn't understand any of that~~
<ZefTheFox>
~~I didn't understand any of that~~L433[19:17:34] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL434[19:18:08] <Z0idburg>
kinda weird being alone in the house for a week
<Z0idburg>
kinda weird being alone in the house for a weekL436[19:19:35] <Compu> muh
truck
<Compu> muh
truckL437[19:20:01] <Izaya> ah, you’re having a
party
L438[19:20:08] <Izaya> the sort where you
leave the bathroom door open
L439[19:25:42] <ZefTheFox>
I'm watching tutorials now
<ZefTheFox>
I'm watching tutorials nowL440[19:25:52] <ZefTheFox>
not from an indian guy though
<ZefTheFox>
not from an indian guy thoughL441[19:25:56] <ZefTheFox>
so probably not top spec
<ZefTheFox>
so probably not top specL442[19:26:07] <ZefTheFox>
~~itsajoke~~
<ZefTheFox>
~~itsajoke~~L443[20:03:24] <ZefTheFox>
And of course
<ZefTheFox>
And of courseL444[20:03:31] <ZefTheFox>
it never is as easy as they show
<ZefTheFox>
it never is as easy as they showL445[20:03:55] <ZefTheFox>
the fucking forge build thing is not recognizing the jdk
<ZefTheFox>
the fucking forge build thing is not recognizing the jdkL447[20:04:48] <ZefTheFox>
Instead it's pointing to some other fucking java version
<ZefTheFox>
Instead it's pointing to some other fucking java versionL448[20:06:44] <ZefTheFox>
lets see if the java website had correct instructions
<ZefTheFox>
lets see if the java website had correct instructionsL449[20:10:02] <ZefTheFox>
and it didn't
<ZefTheFox>
and it didn'tL450[20:18:24] <Compu>
@ZefTheFox minecraft doesn't work on newer java versions, u have to
have 1.8
<Compu>
@ZefTheFox minecraft doesn't work on newer java versions, u have to
have 1.8L451[20:19:08] <ZefTheFox>
Well then wouldn't it at least fucking go to the right
folder?
<ZefTheFox>
Well then wouldn't it at least fucking go to the right
folder?L452[20:19:21] <ZefTheFox>
I have JAVA_HOME set in my system variables and shit
<ZefTheFox>
I have JAVA_HOME set in my system variables and shitL453[20:19:31] <Compu> no
idea
<Compu> no
ideaL454[20:19:57] <Compu>
check what JAVA_HOME is set to
<Compu>
check what JAVA_HOME is set toL455[20:20:15] <Compu> the
minecraft launcher uses it's own built in version regardless of
what u have installed
<Compu> the
minecraft launcher uses it's own built in version regardless of
what u have installedL456[20:20:25] <Compu> but
the forge thing doesn't
<Compu> but
the forge thing doesn'tL457[20:20:39] <Compu> that
could explain the confusion
<Compu> that
could explain the confusionL459[20:22:39] <Compu>
hmm
<Compu>
hmmL460[20:22:43] <Compu>
lemme google
<Compu>
lemme googleL461[20:22:49] <ZefTheFox>
I've been googling
<ZefTheFox>
I've been googlingL462[20:22:53] <ZefTheFox>
It's all stack overflow
<ZefTheFox>
It's all stack overflowL463[20:23:03] <ZefTheFox>
and fucking linux and just the same shit I've been doing
<ZefTheFox>
and fucking linux and just the same shit I've been doingL464[20:23:51] <Compu>
>.>
<Compu>
>.>L465[20:23:54] <Compu>
install linux
<Compu>
install linuxL466[20:24:15] <ZefTheFox>
Ah yes
<ZefTheFox>
Ah yesL467[20:24:30] <ZefTheFox>
let me just get rid of my terabyte plus and $100s of games
<ZefTheFox>
let me just get rid of my terabyte plus and $100s of gamesL468[20:24:39] <ZefTheFox>
just to develop a damn mod
<ZefTheFox>
just to develop a damn modL469[20:24:47] <Compu>
sounds about right
<Compu>
sounds about rightL470[20:24:51] <ZefTheFox>
and I'm not doing it in a vm because that's even more tedious
<ZefTheFox>
and I'm not doing it in a vm because that's even more tediousL471[20:24:55] <Compu>
lel
<Compu>
lelL472[20:25:06] <Compu>
asked a friend
<Compu>
asked a friendL473[20:25:13] <Compu> 9:24
PM] Nebbie: That's...interesting
<Compu> 9:24
PM] Nebbie: That's...interestingL474[20:25:14] <Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: Maybe they didn't restart after an
installation
<Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: Maybe they didn't restart after an
installationL475[20:25:14] <Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: I say nuke it and start over.
<Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: I say nuke it and start over.L476[20:25:17] <Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: That's...interesting
<Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: That's...interestingL477[20:25:17] <Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: Maybe they didn't restart after an
installation
<Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: Maybe they didn't restart after an
installationL478[20:25:17] <Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: I say nuke it and start over. [Edited]
<Compu>
[9:24 PM] Nebbie: I say nuke it and start over. [Edited]L479[20:25:50] <Compu> in
other words uninstall all java versions and such, reboot, reinstall
1.8 only, reboot, then try again
<Compu> in
other words uninstall all java versions and such, reboot, reinstall
1.8 only, reboot, then try againL480[20:27:18] <Compu>
windows seems "fun"
<Compu>
windows seems "fun"L481[20:27:40] <Compu> in
linux i wouldn't even need to reboot once, and changing the default
java version is easy
<Compu> in
linux i wouldn't even need to reboot once, and changing the default
java version is easyL482[20:28:13] <Kleadron> i heard someone
say that linux is easy
L483[20:28:26] <Kleadron> do you want to
confirm that
L484[20:28:28] <Compu> in
this specific aspect it seems it is
<Compu> in
this specific aspect it seems it isL485[20:28:45] <Kleadron> because for me
installing simple software is a nightmere
L486[20:28:55] <Compu>
depends on the linux
<Compu>
depends on the linuxL487[20:29:52] <Compu> for
ubuntu it's simplay `sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk` to install
java 8
<Compu> for
ubuntu it's simplay `sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk` to install
java 8L488[20:30:13] <Compu> and
then `sudo update-alternatives --config java` to set the default
java version
<Compu> and
then `sudo update-alternatives --config java` to set the default
java versionL489[20:30:46] <Compu> and
when u do that update alternatives command it's literally just a
multiple choice type thing for which version u want
<Compu> and
when u do that update alternatives command it's literally just a
multiple choice type thing for which version u wantL490[20:30:52] <Compu> Code
Block pastebined null
<Compu> Code
Block pastebined nullL491[20:31:21] <Compu> u
want open jdk java 8? just press 2 and hit enter and ur done
there
<Compu> u
want open jdk java 8? just press 2 and hit enter and ur done
thereL492[20:32:39] <Compu>
Kleadron: what did u have issues installing?
<Compu>
Kleadron: what did u have issues installing?L493[20:32:59] <ZefTheFox>
"Look how simple remembering commands is!"
<ZefTheFox>
"Look how simple remembering commands is!"L494[20:33:01] ⇦
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L495[20:33:07] <ZefTheFox>
A ui is much more friendly
<ZefTheFox>
A ui is much more friendlyL496[20:33:26] <Compu> last
i checked he was using a command line on windows for trying to
change this stuff too
<Compu> last
i checked he was using a command line on windows for trying to
change this stuff tooL497[20:33:40] <Kleadron> Trying to
install software for any operating system without using the
application store or whatever you want to call it is
difficult
L498[20:33:48] <Kleadron> well
L499[20:33:51] <Kleadron> except windows
and mac os
L500[20:33:54] <Kleadron> and maybe some
others
L501[20:33:55] <ZefTheFox>
Windows isn't bad
<ZefTheFox>
Windows isn't badL502[20:34:06] <ZefTheFox>
Neither is linux
<ZefTheFox>
Neither is linuxL503[20:34:13] <Compu> also
for instructions, giving someone a command to copy and paste is a
lot simpler and quicker than trying to get them to click on all the
right things
<Compu> also
for instructions, giving someone a command to copy and paste is a
lot simpler and quicker than trying to get them to click on all the
right thingsL504[20:34:21] <ZefTheFox>
But that doesn't mean flout linux around like it's a god
<ZefTheFox>
But that doesn't mean flout linux around like it's a godL505[20:34:27]
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L506[20:34:36] <ZefTheFox>
It has advantages sure but don't be obnoxious with it
<ZefTheFox>
It has advantages sure but don't be obnoxious with itL507[20:34:42] <Compu>
i...wasn't?
<Compu>
i...wasn't?L508[20:34:57] <Compu> i
was literally just saying it's a bit easier to do this very
specific thing on linux
<Compu> i
was literally just saying it's a bit easier to do this very
specific thing on linuxL509[20:35:51] <Compu> no
offense but ur the one kinda being obnoxious right now
<Compu> no
offense but ur the one kinda being obnoxious right nowL510[20:37:51] <Kleadron> just dont butt
into something and say "install linux" because it annoys
people
L511[20:38:18] <Compu> i
wasn't butting in, i was already in the conversation
<Compu> i
wasn't butting in, i was already in the conversationL512[20:39:02] <Compu>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined null
<Compu>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined nullL513[20:39:16] <Kleadron> Either way, i
think the issue was with a newer java version while making a
mod?
L514[20:39:24] <Compu> i
added the >.> as an attempt to indicate it was a joke
<Compu> i
added the >.> as an attempt to indicate it was a jokeL515[20:39:26] <Kleadron> just remove the
newer java version and everything will work
L516[20:39:33] <ZefTheFox>
No it's not
<ZefTheFox>
No it's notL517[20:39:39] <ZefTheFox>
It's the path wasn't being recognized
<ZefTheFox>
It's the path wasn't being recognizedL518[20:39:42] <Kleadron> oh
L519[20:39:49] <Compu> yeah
my friend suggested he just wipe out all java versions and only
install java 8, and reboot a bunch
<Compu> yeah
my friend suggested he just wipe out all java versions and only
install java 8, and reboot a bunchL520[20:39:50] <ZefTheFox>
I got that working, now I'm getting an older java version
<ZefTheFox>
I got that working, now I'm getting an older java versionL521[20:40:04] <Kleadron> i will just
leave now
L522[20:40:08] <ZefTheFox>
The reason I wasn't rebooting is because this hd is super
slow
<ZefTheFox>
The reason I wasn't rebooting is because this hd is super
slowL523[20:40:17] <Izaya> uninstall oracle
java, install openjdk :^)
L524[20:40:59] <Compu>
that's a linux thing
<Compu>
that's a linux thingL525[20:41:06] <Izaya> nah
L526[20:41:08] <Compu> i
don't really recommend doing that on windows
<Compu> i
don't really recommend doing that on windowsL527[20:41:09] <Izaya> works on Windows
too
L528[20:41:22] <Izaya> doesn't have the
goddamn updater
L529[20:41:29] <Izaya> nor the licensing
bullshit
L530[20:41:36] <Compu> i
haven't actually tried it on windows
<Compu> i
haven't actually tried it on windowsL531[20:41:38] <Izaya> Michiyo: MichiBot's
paste thing is kill for multiple lines
L532[20:41:57] <ZefTheFox>
So why are you recommending against it on windows?
<ZefTheFox>
So why are you recommending against it on windows?L533[20:42:07] <Compu>
because i haven't tried it
<Compu>
because i haven't tried itL534[20:42:17] <Compu> and
i'm not gonna recommend something that i haven't tried myself
<Compu> and
i'm not gonna recommend something that i haven't tried myselfL535[20:42:36] <Mimiru> Izaya, no it's
not.
L536[20:42:40] <Mimiru> It's entirely
broken
L537[20:42:46] <Mimiru> not just for
multiline pastes
L538[20:42:49] <ZefTheFox>
You recommended *against* it
<ZefTheFox>
You recommended *against* itL539[20:42:59] <Izaya> o-oh
L540[20:43:02] <Izaya> I used OpenJDK on
Windows and it was pleasant, fwiw
L541[20:43:10] <Izaya> didn't try to build
anything with it though
L542[20:43:19] <Compu> if u
think it works fine i'll take ur word for it
<Compu> if u
think it works fine i'll take ur word for itL543[20:43:36] <Izaya> it should be fine
it's mostly the same code
L544[20:43:46] <Kleadron> Does openjdk go
faster than oracle java
L545[20:43:59] <Izaya> probably no
difference
L546[20:44:00] <Mimiru> should be fixed
now
L547[20:48:29] <ZefTheFox>
there
<ZefTheFox>
thereL548[20:48:34] <ZefTheFox>
got past the broken spot
<ZefTheFox>
got past the broken spotL549[20:53:27] <payonel> AmandaC: visual
studio with c# and intellisense is the gold standard
L550[20:54:22] <payonel> like Sinéad
O'Connor said, nothing compares
L551[21:11:22] <ZefTheFox>
Now that the Java environment is set up time to go to sleep and
loose all interest in it
<ZefTheFox>
Now that the Java environment is set up time to go to sleep and
loose all interest in itL552[21:12:00] <AmandaC> payonel: they've
been trying to creep the definition to include some of their
language packages for vscode, too. Their changelog frequently
mentions 'intellisense for java/typescript' and I think the go
readme calls the completion it provides as such as well.
L553[21:14:13] <Wuerfel_21>
AFAIK VS Code calls any code completion "Intelli
Sense"
<Wuerfel_21>
AFAIK VS Code calls any code completion "Intelli
Sense"L554[21:15:44] <Wuerfel_21>
even the entirely horrible one provided by the ruby plugin that
almost never figures out what type a value should be, even when the
previous line is literally
<Wuerfel_21>
even the entirely horrible one provided by the ruby plugin that
almost never figures out what type a value should be, even when the
previous line is literallyL556[21:16:25] <AmandaC> I don't think
I've ever heard of completion for Ruby in any thing
L557[21:16:57] <AmandaC> And I'm not
surprised. It's more monkey patchwork than most gmod mods
L558[21:17:15] <Wuerfel_21>
well, it is very hard to do more than basic autocomplete for
Ruby
<Wuerfel_21>
well, it is very hard to do more than basic autocomplete for
RubyL559[21:18:05] <AmandaC> But yeah, I think
you're right, they've been calling the settings strings
intellisense as well
L560[21:18:45] <AmandaC> In their new
**Bing powered** settings ui
L561[21:19:46] <Wuerfel_21>
Monkey patching can come in quite handy for software that accepts
extensions/plugins, as you don't need to bloat the core and every
plugin with lots of expandability features. Downside: higher
likelyhood of conflicts/incompatibilities
<Wuerfel_21>
Monkey patching can come in quite handy for software that accepts
extensions/plugins, as you don't need to bloat the core and every
plugin with lots of expandability features. Downside: higher
likelyhood of conflicts/incompatibilitiesL562[21:21:09] <Wuerfel_21>
`Bing powered settings ui` WTF
<Wuerfel_21>
`Bing powered settings ui` WTFL563[21:21:11] ⇦
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L564[21:22:51] <Izaya> Microsoft.
L565[21:22:58] <Izaya> in all seriousness,
what
L566[21:23:04] <CompanionCube> isn't bing
a search engine
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L568[21:23:21] <CompanionCube> does
windows 10 now include a copy of the core bing engine?
L569[21:23:41] <AmandaC> I think they only
called it's search function "Bing powered" but
still
L570[21:23:50] <Kleadron> ew
L571[21:24:06] <AmandaC> (re: settings
UI)
L572[21:24:29] <Izaya> fwiw
L573[21:24:39] <Wuerfel_21>
apparently, they're actually using Bing to search the
settings
<Wuerfel_21>
apparently, they're actually using Bing to search the
settingsL574[21:24:39] <Izaya> I love being able
to monkey patch or wrap things
L575[21:24:55] *
Izaya has a way to add Minitel to any OS that doesn't sandbox
events
L576[21:24:58] <Kleadron> that actually
sounds kinda smart
L577[21:25:05] <Izaya> So it doesn't work
without internet?
L578[21:25:25] <Kleadron> why would it
need the internet
L579[21:25:54] <Izaya> >uses bing
L580[21:25:59] <Izaya> >bing is a
website
L581[21:26:42] <Kleadron> they could have
just taken the tech for the search engine itself and shoved it into
the settings
L582[21:26:58] <Izaya> depends how much ML
sauce they've applied to it
L583[21:28:38] <AmandaC> I just assumed it
was marketing trying to get more mind share for Bing, not actually
related
L584[21:29:14] <Kleadron> if it actually
needs the internet its crap
L585[21:29:31] <AmandaC> Easy enough to
test
L586[21:29:55] <AmandaC> I'd do so, but my
laptop is away for the night
L587[21:30:31] <Wuerfel_21>
I just did
<Wuerfel_21>
I just didL588[21:30:36] <Wuerfel_21>
works fine
<Wuerfel_21>
works fineL589[21:31:47] <Wuerfel_21>
either it is 100% local, my VSCode is outdated or it just falls
back to local search
<Wuerfel_21>
either it is 100% local, my VSCode is outdated or it just falls
back to local searchL590[21:32:11] <Kleadron> try a couple of
searches, turn off the internet and see if you get the same
thing
L591[21:32:33] <Kleadron> or maybe try it
without the internet first
L592[21:32:46] <Kleadron> then when you
search it might download something
L593[21:36:55] <Wuerfel_21>
eh, too lazy for that
<Wuerfel_21>
eh, too lazy for thatL594[21:37:17] <Wuerfel_21>
i need internet to code anyways. Often need to look stuff up
<Wuerfel_21>
i need internet to code anyways. Often need to look stuff upL595[21:37:42] <Kleadron> grab a giant
manual and some documentation
L596[21:38:02] <Kleadron> turn the
internet off for 5 hours and then barrel through it
L597[21:38:34] <Wuerfel_21>
When there is a giant manual that isn't too big, i usually do read
most of it
<Wuerfel_21>
When there is a giant manual that isn't too big, i usually do read
most of itL598[22:03:00] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L599[22:03:00] <MichiBot> CompanionCube!
You beat asie's previous record of 4 hours, 53 minutes and 13
seconds! I hope you're happy!
L600[22:03:01] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 5 hours, 49 minutes and 6 seconds
L601[22:03:37] <CompanionCube> should've
cone for a nice round number
L602[22:06:17] <Kleadron> %loot
L603[22:08:02] <Kleadron> it did not
work
L604[22:08:06] <Kleadron> it has been 2
minutes
L605[22:08:09] <Kleadron> i am upset
L606[22:08:13] <CompanionCube> what
L607[22:08:26] <Kleadron> i think michibot
has some serious issues
L608[22:08:29] *
CompanionCube loots Kleadron
L609[22:08:34] <Kleadron> no u
L610[22:08:42] <CompanionCube> so what did
i get
L611[22:08:57] <Kleadron> a lack of
motivation
L612[22:09:00] <Mimiru> ... well that's
interesting
L613[22:09:11] <CompanionCube> so nothing
then?
L614[22:09:17] <Mimiru> @Forecaster
https://paste.pc-logix.com/gomeriroke.sql
L615[22:10:02] <Mimiru> %loot
L616[22:10:02] <MichiBot> Mimiru: You get
a loot box! It contains a tiny model shoe.
L617[22:12:40] <Kleadron> %blame
Forecaster
L618[22:12:40] *
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L625[22:59:53] <Kleadron> echo
L626[23:00:53] *
CompanionCube wonders who will eventually out-%tonk
him
L627[23:02:23] <Kleadron> %tonk
L628[23:02:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Kleadron, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 5
hours, 49 minutes and 6 seconds this time.
L629[23:02:25] <MichiBot> 59 minutes and
23 seconds were wasted!
L630[23:03:22] <CompanionCube> :3
sorries
L631[23:06:20] *
Kleadron wonders what %tonk even does
L632[23:08:26] <Temia> Tonk ast tonk
(extreme)
L633[23:10:07] <Temia> Red bloometh the
rose of conviction
L634[23:13:27] <Kleadron> what if tis
blue
L635[23:15:20] <CompanionCube> Kleadron:
the logs will tell you
L636[23:16:17] <Kleadron> sentient
logs
L637[23:16:20] <Kleadron> cool
L638[23:17:11] <CompanionCube> there's
multiple explanations
L639[23:17:41] <Kleadron> are there
sentient cubes
L640[23:18:10] <CompanionCube> i am a
member of that set
L641[23:18:19] <Kleadron> oh snap
L642[23:18:45] <CompanionCube>
companioncubes are a subset of cubes, no?
L643[23:19:33] *
CompanionCube squishes with his heavy cube shell
L644[23:20:20] <CompanionCube> er
L645[23:20:41] *
CompanionCube squishes Kleadron with his heavy cube
shell
L646[23:21:22] *
Kleadron is dead
L647[23:21:45] *
CompanionCube rolls away
L648[23:21:52] <Kleadron> cubes dont
roll
L649[23:21:57] *
Kleadron is suspicious
L650[23:22:12] <CompanionCube>
companioncubes roll
L651[23:23:50] <CompanionCube> also,
suspicious about what, how?
L652[23:24:18] <Kleadron> i am suspicious
about rolling cubes
L653[23:24:31] <Kleadron> cubes dont
generally roll very well
L654[23:24:46] <Kleadron> let me test this
in portal 2
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L657[23:30:39] <Kleadron> portal 2 doesn't
like me for whatever reason
L658[23:31:21] <CompanionCube> i do not
mind violating physics to roll if need be
L659[23:31:34] *
Izaya gives CompanionCube a sander
L660[23:32:26] <CompanionCube> Izaya: my
outer materials aren't highly amendable to sand into
roundness.
L661[23:32:33] <CompanionCube>
*amenable
L662[23:32:41] *
Izaya gives CompanionCube a blowtorch
L663[23:33:16] <CompanionCube> something
something 4000K+
L664[23:33:32] <Kleadron> do you need an
intel cpu
L665[23:34:03] <CompanionCube> nope
L666[23:35:25] <CompanionCube> the latest
revision of my inner components includes a modified version of
RISC-V
L667[23:37:02] <CompanionCube> One does
not simply put up with Intel's shit when you have better
options.
L668[23:37:45] <Kleadron> AMD is better
than intel, dare change my mind?
L669[23:38:28] <CompanionCube> but that's
correct
L670[23:38:49] <Kleadron> good
L671[23:41:27] <CompanionCube> Did you
discover the meaning of %tonk
L672[23:41:59] <Kleadron> no i did
not
L673[23:44:34] <CompanionCube> %tonk is
basically a game of seeing who can wait the longest between
tonks
L674[23:44:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of
5 hours, 49 minutes and 6 seconds this time.
L675[23:44:35] <MichiBot> 42 minutes and
10 seconds were wasted!
L676[23:45:27] <CompanionCube> When there
is no %tonk, the first person to %tonk sets a record of the
rime
L677[23:45:29] <CompanionCube> '
L678[23:45:37] <CompanionCube> of the time
it took
L679[23:46:30] <CompanionCube> Thereafter,
the time between %tonks is compared to the record set by the
previous %tonk
L680[23:46:31] <Kleadron>
look at this fancy son of a gun
<Kleadron>
look at this fancy son of a gunL682[23:47:14] <CompanionCube> is that
companioncube rolling
L683[23:47:47] <Kleadron> thats not a
companion cube
L684[23:47:53] <Kleadron> that is a
weighted storage cube
L685[23:50:57] <CompanionCube> bad
lighting is bad
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L687[23:58:15] <CompanionCube> Kleadron:
was my explanation of %tonk helpful?
L688[23:58:28] <Kleadron> yes
L689[23:59:06] <Kleadron> time goes too
fast
L690[23:59:34] <Compu>
microcontrollers require power, right?
<Compu>
microcontrollers require power, right?L691[23:59:39] <CompanionCube> will you
try to beat me
L692[23:59:43] <Compu> do
they have power converters built in?
<Compu> do
they have power converters built in?L693[23:59:47] <Forecaster>
Yes they do
<Forecaster>
Yes they do