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L1[00:35:32] <Saphire> AHA http://tinyurl.com/yag6d6cs
L2[00:37:09] <Izaya> It appears their attempt to compete with Steam had not been well-received
L3[00:53:12] <Kleadron> that has been there for a while now
L4[00:56:21] <Kleadron> its even been there before the store was added
L5[01:05:40] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: tonk
L6[01:05:49] <Izaya> %tonk
L7[01:05:50] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Izaya, you were not able to beat asie's record of 3 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes and 38 seconds this time.
L8[01:05:51] <MichiBot> 1 week, 8 hours, 20 minutes and 44 seconds were wasted!
L9[01:06:02] <Izaya> %remindme 2w tonk
L10[01:06:02] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "tonk" at 11/03/2018 01:06:02 AM
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L12[02:03:31] <Saphire> %tonk
L13[02:03:32] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Saphire, you were not able to beat asie's record of 3 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes and 38 seconds this time.
L14[02:03:33] <MichiBot> 57 minutes and 41 seconds were wasted!
L15[02:03:51] <Saphire> %tonk
L16[02:03:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Saphire, you were not able to beat asie's record of 3 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes and 38 seconds this time.
L17[02:03:53] <MichiBot> 20 seconds were wasted!
L18[02:03:54] <Saphire> %tonk
L19[02:03:54] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Saphire, you were not able to beat asie's record of 3 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes and 38 seconds this time.
L20[02:03:55] <MichiBot> 2 seconds were wasted!
L21[02:03:59] <Saphire> :3
L22[02:12:58] <Saphire> http://www.5z8.info/how-to-skin-a-gerbil_d2j0wv_bomb-plans
L23[02:13:54] <Izaya> ???
L24[02:15:35] <Saphire> Did you open it?
L25[02:18:42] <Izaya> it went to your site
L26[02:22:33] <Saphire> *nods*
L27[02:22:39] <Saphire> This is a fun link shortener
L28[03:20:12] <Not>Inari> Huh Amanda Isn't on Discord? AmandaC: Well vifino already got one of my examples wrong I believe ? At least if its really invalid
L29[03:20:24] <Not>Inari> https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/JAQVg80KJs3FLRhgLMbVkAY5oD6bYPBkVB3e_jfM9Ac/https/i.redd.it/4h5p0wpeq8t11.jpg reminder that this exists ?
L30[03:21:32] <Saphire> Why
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L35[03:50:33] <Not>Inari> @Saphire Becasue it's fun
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L37[04:11:41] <Inari> AmandaC: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEiOVUTUgAAJcNA.jpg:large
L38[04:11:42] <Oggymot> Hello,
L39[04:11:42] <Oggymot> when Im reading from file text 192.168.1.0 it add decimal .0, how can I disable the decimal? Thanks ?
L40[04:12:07] <Inari> Uh, what?
L41[04:12:09] <Inari> Whats your code? :P
L42[04:13:31] <Oggymot> conf = io.open("conf.cfg", "r")
L43[04:13:31] <Oggymot> MyIP = conf:read("*all")
L44[04:13:33] <Oggymot> MyIP = MyIP:gsub("%s+", "")
L45[04:14:16] <Compu> try putting quotes around the text in the file maybe?
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L47[04:14:24] <Compu> so it gets read in as a string?
L48[04:14:31] <Inari> Why would it read it as a non-stirng
L49[04:14:54] <Oggymot> Okay, I'll try.
L50[04:15:00] <Inari> ¬_¬
L51[04:15:07] <Inari> How are you outputting the string>?
L52[04:15:15] <Inari> Cause I don't see any reason it would add a decimal .0 there
L53[04:16:18] <Oggymot> I write print(MyIP)
L54[04:16:28] <Inari> And it shows 192.168.1.0.0?
L55[04:17:21] <Oggymot> Yes
L56[04:17:25] <Inari> Weird
L57[04:19:09] <Inari> Can't say I can reproduce that
L58[04:19:29] <payonel> gsub
L59[04:19:34] <Not>Inari> http://tinyurl.com/yab6kb6r
L60[04:19:50] <payonel> @oggymot
L61[04:19:56] <payonel> you're printing the result of gsub
L62[04:20:00] <payonel> which has 2 returns
L63[04:20:07] <Not>Inari> Oh, it does? heh
L64[04:20:15] <payonel> the result string, plus how many replacements it made
L65[04:20:21] <Not>Inari> But they're not
L66[04:20:30] <Not>Inari> They're assigning MyIP the first return
L67[04:20:31] <Oggymot> I just reboot computer and it works now! Thanks all ?
L68[04:20:37] <payonel> youre welcome
L69[04:20:45] * payonel wonders away confused
L70[04:20:52] <Not>Inari> Haha
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L72[04:22:22] <Oggymot> Second question, I play on the server and is there way to edit files on computers via FTP and then upload it?
L73[04:22:47] <payonel> @Oggymot you could upload your code to pastebin
L74[04:22:54] <payonel> then use the pastebin tool we provide
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L76[04:23:17] <Oggymot> @payonel okay, thanks
L77[04:23:25] <payonel> see `man pastebin` for more info
L78[04:23:53] <Compu> u could upload it to github, copy the raw link on the github page (or gitlab if u prefer) and then use wget to download it to the OC computer
L79[04:24:33] <payonel> @Oggymot also we have a couple of emulators
L80[04:24:39] <payonel> provided by the community
L81[04:26:18] <Compu> if u have access to the server itself u can also just remove the drive from the computer, go to the world folder, inside the world folder is an opencomputers folder, find the address of the drive in there, and then just copy the file into there and insert the drive back into the computer in game
L82[04:26:29] <Compu> usually what i do to save time
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L85[04:41:15] <Inari> You could also use ocnetfs
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L87[05:46:23] <dequbed> Izaya: What part of your Rimworld-You do you want to have cyborged first? :p
L88[05:46:45] <Izaya> Eyes.
L89[05:47:21] <dequbed> Two bionic eyes it is. You're gonna be scary.
L90[05:47:35] <Izaya> >:D
L91[05:48:59] <dequbed> Also I have bad news for you but the crossbow had to go. But you've switched it out with an M60 and way too much ammunition.
L92[05:49:24] <Forecaster> that only sounds like bad news for anyone on the other side of the barrel
L93[05:50:15] <dequbed> That's why I had him switch. Now he's taking out centipedes in one salvo. From halfway across the map. And now he's getting even more accurate. As I said, scary.;
L94[05:53:08] <Forecaster> Is that a mod weapon? Sounds like a mod weapon
L95[05:53:36] <dequbed> It is.
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L97[05:57:00] <dequbed> @Forecaster: Also it's RimWorld so I have to have at least one war crime in there: It's loaded with 7.92mm dumdum bullets.
L98[05:57:57] <Izaya> I should like, get Rimworld.
L99[05:58:03] <Izaya> I actually have money now.
L100[05:58:17] <dequbed> 1.0 was released yesterday so now is *the* time.
L101[05:58:28] <dequbed> Do get the DRM-free version on their website though.
L102[05:58:37] <Izaya> that is a good point
L103[06:16:38] <AmandaC> But is it a good dull
L104[06:17:23] <AmandaC> Inari: I'm only on the irc, because it links to the discuss here
L105[06:17:43] <AmandaC> Discord*
L106[06:19:06] <Forecaster> I've made my first Fantasy Grounds extension, using maths!
L107[06:19:11] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ybbp9oqh
L108[06:19:48] <Forecaster> it allows importing a weighted table and automatically calculates the result ranges
L109[06:21:00] <Forecaster> I copied and modified an existing extension that just imported a list and assigned the ranges based on the index
L110[06:25:47] <AmandaC> Your first what-now extension?
L111[06:30:23] <Forecaster> Fantasy Grounds is a virtual table-top thingy for RPGs
L112[06:30:31] <Forecaster> like D&D
L113[06:31:15] <Forecaster> A simpler example: http://tinyurl.com/yb7uvuc2
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L117[07:31:47] <Hgs> hey
L118[07:31:51] <Izaya> hi
L119[07:32:01] <gamerred> guys is it hard to make a open computers operating system? all I wanna do is make a os that comes pre-installed with the editor change I made
L120[07:32:19] <Hgs> I need a little help with drones. Can are you help me?
L121[07:32:40] <MGR> @gamerred So, your OS is just OpenOS with a custom editor?
L122[07:32:48] <gamerred> yeah
L123[07:32:48] <MGR> Hgs, what do you need help with?
L124[07:32:49] <Izaya> gamerred: copy an OpenOS installer to another floppy, then copy your midified editor to it. Boom, installer with editor.
L125[07:32:57] <Izaya> s/midi/modi/
L126[07:32:57] <MichiBot> <Izaya> gamerred: copy an OpenOS installer to another floppy, then copy your modified editor to it. Boom, installer with editor.
L127[07:33:00] <MGR> ?
L128[07:33:26] <Hgs> I need to user something like thread, but drones don't have that library
L129[07:33:37] <gamerred> k cool cause gonna add it to my modpack for in case some1 that uses my modpack wants to use a editor with colors ?
L130[07:33:54] <Hgs> I want to remotely control my device and i need to queue commands (moving commands)
L131[07:34:10] <MGR> If you want to remotely control your device, you might want to talk to @AvP
L132[07:34:23] <Hgs> For example, I tell my drone: Go to point A, then go to point B and then go to point C
L133[07:34:24] <MGR> He made a drone control program
L134[07:34:36] <MGR> Cueing is something you can do on the computer instead of the drone
L135[07:34:47] <MGR> Queueing is something you can do on the computer instead of the drone [Edited]
L136[07:34:48] <Hgs> But, when drone flying i need to can tell him "change color to red", or "display something on your little screen"
L137[07:35:13] <MGR> Queuing is something you can do on the computer instead of the drone [Edited]
L138[07:35:18] <MGR> There we go, finally the right spelling
L139[07:35:27] <MGR> But yeah, you can do that on the controlling computer instead of the drone
L140[07:35:36] <Skye> Didn't Izaya remote control so many drones they crashed a server
L141[07:35:56] <Izaya> you'd want to queue commands on the drone though
L142[07:36:07] <Hgs> Drone waiting for next command from me. He stops at computer.pullSignal; So if he in the point A, he waiting for next command but he could go to B;
L143[07:36:18] <Izaya> IIRC it pushes an event when your drone finishes moving
L144[07:36:50] <Hgs> Is there that event? :O (finish of moving)
L145[07:36:55] <Izaya> ~w signals
L146[07:36:55] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
L147[07:37:01] <Izaya> let's find out
L148[07:37:22] <Izaya> Hm, apparently not
L149[07:37:24] <Izaya> ~w drone
L150[07:37:24] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone
L151[07:37:50] <Izaya> you can getOffset() though and when it gets near enough to zero you've finished movie
L152[07:37:52] <Izaya> moving
L153[07:38:01] <Izaya> apologies I'm a little intoxicated
L154[07:38:18] <gamerred> lol been trying to find a mod that has boots with step assist and I didnt know its in open computers ?
L155[07:38:32] <Izaya> step assist?
L156[07:38:41] <Hgs> Hmm, I am confused now
L157[07:39:01] <gamerred> thhats where it walks 1 block higher then ground without jumping
L158[07:39:11] <Izaya> OC has boots that let you jump higher but I'm not sure if they'll do that
L159[07:39:21] <MGR> They do step assist
L160[07:41:34] <Hgs> At all, thanks guys!
L161[07:42:10] <gamerred> looks like there jump boost+feather falling+step assist in 1 ?
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L163[07:43:59] <gamerred> see there is a irc disk does that mean you can technically chat here from inside mc with open computers if you use it right?
L164[07:44:04] <MGR> Yes
L165[07:44:06] <Izaya> right
L166[07:44:15] <Izaya> and you get to use the superior chat platform, too
L167[07:45:17] <gamerred> was that disk tested on servers before? cause wondering if it works on a server lol
L168[07:45:24] <Izaya> works fine
L169[07:45:29] <Forecaster> of course it does
L170[07:45:31] <gamerred> sweet
L171[07:45:43] <Izaya> I need to do an IRC client for PsychOS some time
L172[07:45:51] <Izaya> I can just dedicate a display and GPU to IRC
L173[08:19:51] <dequbed> Izaya: If you do pick up Rimworld I have one, just *one* warning for you: Dogs are the ultimate druglords. Secure your stashes.
L174[08:20:10] <Izaya> ... What.
L175[08:22:09] <dequbed> Most of the domesticated animals consider alcoholics an acceptable feed for themselves. More importantly, they consider it a better feed than actual food. So all of your dogs and cats will binge all of your beer, stumble drunk as fuck through the colony, vomit *everywhere* and finally die of liver cirrhosis.
L176[08:22:22] <dequbed> Unless they fixed that. Which would be kind of sad in a way.
L177[08:23:43] <Izaya> Last I played the game it didn't have dogs.
L178[08:23:47] <Izaya> I'll keep that in mind though.
L179[08:24:40] <dequbed> It also expands to other drugs, especially modded drugs. My cat has a huge tolerance to alcohol and needs a whole bottle of Vodka to be slightly buzzed, two of my huskies are addicted to smokeleaf, and when my current colony got methadone for the first time three of my dogs OD on it and one died.
L180[08:29:19] <baschdel> Hello
L181[08:29:29] <dequbed> %hello
L182[08:29:29] <MichiBot> dequbed: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L183[08:29:31] <Forecaster> %hello
L184[08:29:31] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L185[08:29:37] <Forecaster> aw dang
L186[08:30:44] <baschdel> Has anybody else problems with the uuid library trying to access a non existant bit32?
L187[08:31:52] <baschdel> Or has this already been fixed and I just have to use a newer version of openOS
L188[08:33:25] <MGR> Try using the CPU in Lua 5.3 mode
L189[08:33:40] <MGR> Hold it in your hand and right click until it says the arch is Lua 5.3
L190[08:34:05] <gamerred> honestly I wish it will default to lua 5.3 mode lol
L191[08:34:43] <MGR> It does with new configs
L192[08:35:32] <gamerred> hmm thats enabled in my cfg however its still wanting to default to 5.2
L193[08:35:47] <MGR> Huh
L194[08:36:04] <baschdel> That wasn't the problem the cpu was already in lua 5.3 mode
L195[08:37:12] <gamerred> lol I am using open computers to change my keyboard color ?
L196[08:37:44] <gamerred> bit pointless but it works
L197[08:37:53] <baschdel> Ok
L198[08:39:22] <gamerred> hmm just realize open computers has a hologram emitter wonder if I can use that to have a holo showing whats being crafted lol
L199[08:40:31] <gamerred> I could but will the work be worth while lol
L200[08:41:29] <baschdel> Looks like I have to edit some uuid.lua files until someone fixes it
L201[08:43:33] <gamerred> wait we can edit signs using the mod? I didnt know that
L202[08:50:23] <gamerred> does sign upgrade works on computers instead of robots?
L203[08:53:12] <Forecaster> no
L204[08:55:04] <gamerred> darn cant do my idea then lol
L205[08:56:47] <gamerred> or maybe I can just I gotta use a screen to do it instead of a sign ?
L206[09:00:02] <Lizzian> I think the sign upgrade works in an adapter?
L207[09:00:47] <Forecaster> oh, yeah maybe
L208[09:03:01] <gamerred> oh it does detect it in my component lister
L209[09:06:57] <gamerred> could I get a example for the signs set value to make sure I am doing the syntax properly?
L210[09:07:19] <Forecaster> ~oc sign
L211[09:07:19] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:sign
L212[09:07:47] <gamerred> yeah I am at the page just it says number required when I am passing it a string
L213[09:08:14] <Izaya> woo
L214[09:08:19] <Lizzian> ah, i think in adapters you'll need to provide a `side` as the first argument
L215[09:08:19] <Izaya> skyrim lasted 5 minutes before crashing
L216[09:09:51] <gamerred> as the first what? lol
L217[09:10:06] <Lizzian> ....
L218[09:10:19] <Forecaster> %g function argument
L219[09:10:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_of_a_function - *Argument of a function - Wikipedia*: "In mathematics, an argument of a function is a specific input in the function, also known as an independent variable. When it is clear from the context which ..."
L220[09:11:11] <dequbed> Izaya: I hope you don't mind, but we had them laying around so I gave you bionic arms and legs and a spine as well ^^'
L221[09:11:19] <Forecaster> %g function argument programming
L222[09:11:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parameter_(computer_programming) - *Parameter (computer programming) - Wikipedia*: "... as a function which takes the first argument, ... Some programming languages, like ML ..."
L223[09:11:49] <Lizzian> dequbed, sounds like you're playing Rimworld
L224[09:12:21] <Forecaster> he is
L225[09:12:22] <dequbed> @Lizzian: I am! And Izaya is one of my colonies ~victi~ er valued colonists!
L226[09:12:30] <Lizzian> hehe
L227[09:13:49] <Corded> * <Lizzian> needs to do a playthrough of vanilla rimworld again soon now that 1.0 has dropped
L228[09:14:10] <Forecaster> strem it!
L229[09:14:18] <Lizzian> I might
L230[09:14:31] <gamerred> figured that out whats the side # for west again?
L231[09:14:46] <dequbed> Heh. I usually go the going-way-overboard-with-mods route. Have played enough vanilla ^^
L232[09:14:49] <Lizzian> ~oc sides
L233[09:14:50] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:sides
L234[09:14:50] <Forecaster> local sides = require("sides")
L235[09:14:53] <Forecaster> sides.west
L236[09:15:32] <Lizzian> yeah, i normally do mods (currently have a fuckabout save with the zombie mod), but i wanna try out vanilla to see what it's like
L237[09:15:50] <gamerred> keep forgetting you can do it that way lol
L238[09:16:11] <gamerred> hmm its not throwing a error also its not doing what I tell it too lol
L239[09:16:59] <Lizzian> got a screenshot of your setup?
L240[09:18:03] <dequbed> @Lizzian: Yeah, 1.0 added some really nice features from mods. Hand me that brick is basically in vanilla now. But stuff like Combat Extended or A Dog Said ain't. And I love my bionic terror-wargs too much <3
L241[09:18:12] <gamerred> figured it out my game was derping lol
L242[09:18:27] <gamerred> it said I was facing west when I was really facing south
L243[09:18:32] <Lizzian> lol
L244[09:19:22] <Lizzy> dequbed, omg, hand-me-that-brick being vanilla is good news
L245[09:19:41] <A_D> what does that one do?
L246[09:19:48] <Lizzy> ?
L247[09:19:52] <A_D> the mod
L248[09:19:58] <A_D> I've not played modded rimworld
L249[09:20:07] <dequbed> The short version is: Haulers will haul ingredients to blueprints
L250[09:20:14] <Lizzy> basically allows haulers to transport to blueprints
L251[09:20:15] <dequbed> Thats whats in Vanilla at least
L252[09:20:16] <A_D> oh fuck thats wonderful
L253[09:20:18] <dequbed> Yes
L254[09:20:31] <A_D> I should go play some rimworld >.>
L255[09:20:33] <dequbed> You don't need half your colony being civil engineers anymore.
L256[09:20:34] <Lizzy> which is nice when you have hauling animals, because they'll also help
L257[09:20:42] <A_D> oh? awesomr
L258[09:20:48] <A_D> awesome*
L259[09:21:15] <Lizzy> yeah, though animals are very lazy sometimes, so the mod "hardworking animals" might be a good thing to look at
L260[09:22:40] * Lizzy goes to see if there's any multiplayer-esk mods for rimworld
L261[09:22:48] <dequbed> Yes
L262[09:23:03] <dequbed> RimAlong
L263[09:23:17] <dequbed> Not finished though
L264[09:24:25] <Lizzy> ooh
L265[09:26:25] <dequbed> A_D: If you want a modded experience that will make you panic again everytime you see a raid, Combat Extended + RealFoW + Realistic Darkness. Sieges are especially terrifiying because you're simply being shelled, from *somewhere*.
L266[09:26:44] <A_D> I already panic when I see a raid >.>
L267[09:27:01] <dequbed> Well now you can panic *even more*
L268[09:27:42] <Lizzy> dequbed, or add in the zombieland mod for an even higher panic level
L269[09:27:58] <A_D> lol
L270[09:29:04] <dequbed> Lizzy: Yeah but Zombieland is "just" loads of enemies. Target-rich environments aren't scary if you're sitting in a bunker on tons of ammunition with 50cal machine guns pointing out of every entrance.
L271[09:30:28] <Lizzy> well, it's loads of enemies that like to swarm when they get excited and could probably overwhelm a few lot of the defenses. also if pawns get bit, they have a high chance of becoming infected and then slowly becomign a zombie themselves
L272[09:31:23] <Lizzy> then again, i've only been playing in my messaround save
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L275[09:48:00] <Skye> I need to get people playing openttd
L276[09:49:40] <Lizzy> well, i mean i can play it :)
L277[09:51:04] <Forecaster> RimWorld needs rails!
L278[09:57:57] <vifino> hai
L279[09:58:01] <Lizzy> hai
L280[09:58:35] <dequbed> vifno!
L281[09:58:35] <vifino> how are you? :)
L282[09:58:46] <vifino> hai dequbed
L283[09:58:59] * Lizzy is well, needs to go get something to eat though because she still hasn't done that yet
L284[09:59:07] <Lizzy> how is the vifino ?
L285[09:59:30] <dequbed> Lizzy: Make sure you don't eat without a table :p
L286[09:59:40] <Lizzy> lol
L287[09:59:40] <vifino> i'm okay, in the land without good internet
L288[09:59:57] <vifino> 1MBit/s at best, packet loss..
L289[10:00:07] <Lizzy> :/
L290[10:01:03] <vifino> i'm here practically only chopping wood all day.
L291[10:04:13] <vifino> Izaya: got any open source games that i can play with the bad internet here?
L292[10:04:31] <Izaya> openrct2
L293[10:04:44] <vifino> don't have the rct files here.
L294[10:04:49] <vifino> i have openttd.
L295[10:04:56] <vifino> and xonotic.
L296[10:05:23] <dequbed> Should I snailmail you some games? :p
L297[10:05:28] <vifino> yes.
L298[10:05:43] <vifino> via source code.
L299[10:05:49] <vifino> i love my musl.
L300[10:07:06] <dequbed> Hrm, I don't think a CD will survive being sent by letter, do you have a 2.5" floppy drive around?
L301[10:07:15] <Izaya> 2.5" floppy?
L302[10:07:24] <vifino> i thought about bringing my drive, actually.
L303[10:07:25] <vifino> but no.
L304[10:07:44] <Izaya> I assume giving you the RCT2 data over the internet would not be practical, given it's ~600MB?
L305[10:08:17] <Forecaster> thumb-drive? :P
L306[10:08:25] <Forecaster> or SD cart
L307[10:08:27] <Forecaster> or SD card [Edited]
L308[10:08:37] <vifino> i mean, i guess it'd work. it'd download at 120ish KB/s.
L309[10:09:06] <dequbed> Forecaster: Storing these pristine Open Source games on a closed, propietary storage system!? How *dare* you sir!
L310[10:09:34] <vifino> i have a cd drive, though.
L311[10:09:50] <vifino> maybe it can even do dvds..
L312[10:12:42] <Oggymot> Hello,
L313[10:12:42] <Oggymot> again me. How can I check if component is in computer?
L314[10:12:58] <Lizzian> run `components`
L315[10:13:14] <Oggymot> Yes, but in code. ?
L316[10:13:20] <Lizzian> oh
L317[10:13:37] <Oggymot> if component.internet then (or something like this)
L318[10:13:59] <Lizzian> `component.isAvailable("internet")`
L319[10:14:10] <Lizzian> returns `true`/`false`
L320[10:14:16] <Oggymot> Thank's you @Lizzian ! ?
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L322[10:17:27] <vifino> dequbed: so, what would you send me?
L323[10:21:43] <Skye> could I send stuff? :P
L324[10:22:06] <vifino> i'm leaving in 4 days.. not sure it'd get over fast enough..
L325[10:23:46] <dequbed> vifino: I'll arive on Tuesday most likely.
L326[10:23:59] <vifino> ?
L327[10:24:06] <dequbed> It'll*. I'm not sending me, no matter how much you'd like that :p
L328[10:24:11] <vifino> what do you mean, you'll arrive?
L329[10:24:44] <Izaya> >not mailing yourself
L330[10:24:49] <vifino> well, tuesday'd be too late, really. i'm probably gone at that point.
L331[10:25:01] <dequbed> Yeah, I figured
L332[10:25:10] <dequbed> Next time :p
L333[10:25:19] <vifino> what *do* you want to mail, though?
L334[10:28:03] <dequbed> I would have probably sent a disassembled usb stick with a few shallow clones of games. 0.A.D, Pixel Dungeon, Unknown Horizons, open-ig, openttd with a patchset, minetest, zero-k.
L335[10:28:49] <vifino> mm, disassembled usb sticks, looking for unknown chips? :P
L336[10:29:03] <Izaya> bake for 10 minutes at 200C
L337[10:29:33] <dequbed> Now, but I'm not going to pay for additional postage stamps.
L338[10:29:49] <vifino> lol
L339[10:32:12] <vifino> pixel dungeon seems to be java.. oof.
L340[10:32:19] <vifino> you'd have to ship a jvm too.
L341[10:32:47] <dequbed> At that point I'd just ask you for a copy of your set files and include all necessary ebuilds+sources.
L342[10:33:10] <vifino> but i'm on my laptop, i got void linux here.
L343[10:33:25] <dequbed> Oh lol. Nvm then that makes stuff much easier.
L344[10:33:30] <Izaya> mail a flash drive with bootable debian with all this stuff set up
L345[10:33:40] <vifino> my T61 would be pretty sad with gentoo.
L346[10:33:43] <dequbed> I could just ship you binaries in the first place then? :p
L347[10:33:54] <vifino> even though, now that i modded a quadcore in it..
L348[10:34:04] <vifino> if you link it statically against musl, yes.
L349[10:34:20] <vifino> or well, dynamically against whatever version i am running.
L350[10:34:24] <dequbed> I know how to build for Void, yes ;)
L351[10:34:28] <vifino> i should know, i dumped musl..
L352[10:34:32] <vifino> bumped*
L353[10:36:13] <vifino> zero-k is proprietary and uses mono. ._.
L354[10:36:23] <vifino> unknown horizons is python. ._.
L355[10:37:14] <vifino> 0ad does seem packaged for void..
L356[10:38:05] <vifino> alright, lets download 0ad.
L357[10:38:08] <Skye> do you have the JGR patchpack for openttd?
L358[10:38:12] <vifino> 50 minutes for the data files, yay.
L359[10:38:20] <vifino> i don't, but i have openttd.
L360[10:38:52] <Izaya> dequbed: can you give me an example of rust code that would compile with 1.0 but not whatever the current version is? is that an issue? or is it just that everything depends on things in -dev versions and every distro packages stable?
L361[10:39:56] <Skye> the JGR patch pack is really good as it adds nice features
L362[10:40:11] <vifino> Skye: want me to clone https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/tree/jgrpp and build it?
L363[10:40:49] <dequbed> Izaya: There was some breakage with empty types, but other than that Rust 1.0 code should compile cleany on every later version. However every packet and their mother depend on nightly which IS ANNOYING AS FUCK, so don't expect anything to build, ever.
L364[10:41:20] <vifino> two languages.
L365[10:41:49] <Izaya> dequbed: figured as much
L366[10:41:56] <dequbed> In other words: Unless the code you're trying to build is black magic/tries to act like black magic/written by a stupid idiot it'll work. Do you need an explicit example?
L367[10:42:10] <Izaya> fucking ree I don't want to build the toolchain from source to do any work with it
L368[10:42:39] <dequbed> HAHAHAH good luck.
L369[10:42:51] <Izaya> do you have any handy? someone mentioned breakage since 1.0 elsewhere and you're muh source
L370[10:43:09] <Izaya> hey here's a thought:
L371[10:43:18] <Izaya> language-specific package managers piss me off to no end
L372[10:43:27] <Izaya> so I could just not use any packages ever and compile against whatever debian has
L373[10:43:38] <vifino> rustup install nightly
L374[10:43:38] <Izaya> using only what's in the debian repos
L375[10:43:44] <Izaya> inb4 debian doesn't even have rust
L376[10:44:13] <vifino> distro packages? that'll only be pleasant on RR distros.
L377[10:44:38] <Izaya> yeah well fuck language specific package managers
L378[10:44:41] <Izaya> my system has a package manager
L379[10:44:46] <Izaya> fuck off with your bullshit
L380[10:44:52] <vifino> hahaha
L381[10:45:03] <Izaya> I already have pacman or apt-get I shouldn't have luarocks or pip or cargo or gem or whathaveyou
L382[10:45:09] <vifino> i love asdf, a package manager for package managers :^)
L383[10:45:16] <Izaya> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
L384[10:45:24] <vifino> asdf install rust git; and thanks to me
L385[10:45:26] <vifino> asdf install r2 git
L386[10:45:26] <dequbed> vifino: If you have responsible developers that care about ABI stability *pfwahahah* sorry couldn't hold it in. Responsible devs. *giggle*.
L387[10:45:43] <vifino> good joke.
L388[10:45:45] * vifino pats dequbed
L389[10:45:53] <vifino> want a treat?
L390[10:46:24] <dequbed> No I want Software engineering to suck less.
L391[10:46:51] <vifino> well that's not happening.
L392[10:46:54] * Lizzy installs blower vent onto the software engineering
L393[10:47:30] <vifino> now, if you'll excuse me, i need to light a bbq before i freeze/starve to death
L394[10:47:54] <vifino> in an hour i should have 0ad downloaded. anything else i can queue?
L395[10:48:03] <dequbed> Izaya: If you want an example of actual hands-on breakage: PR #48950 aka Divergent functions are hard
L396[10:48:22] <vifino> Izaya: hand me an openrct2 archive, all the expansions and the sauce
L397[10:48:30] <vifino> s/expansions/data/
L398[10:48:31] <MichiBot> <vifino> Izaya: hand me an openrct2 archive, all the data and the sauce
L399[10:48:37] <Izaya> vifino: I will send data, clone the GH repo
L400[10:48:43] <vifino> aye
L401[10:49:23] <vifino> thank god for --depth=10
L402[10:50:44] <dequbed> Izaya: However, any bottom type is seldom to appear.. well anywhere. The major things this broke is µC code, compiler-internal code and very badly written code / prematuerly optimized code.
L403[10:50:56] <vifino> i'll see you guys in a couple hours.
L404[10:51:04] <vifino> maybe something will be downloaded by then.
L405[10:51:20] <vifino> luckily QoS, fq_codel and things make ssh/irc work.
L406[10:51:39] <vifino> (thank god i was smart enough to bring my own router, latest openwrt and all)
L407[10:55:50] <Skye> vifino, download openttd with JGR patchpack
L408[10:55:52] <Skye> %p vifino
L409[10:55:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from vifino 1.01s
L410[10:55:56] <Skye> ow
L411[10:56:02] <Skye> and uh
L412[10:56:09] <Skye> should I zip up a bunch of mods for you to install?
L413[10:56:21] <Lizzy> he may have already gone
L414[10:57:14] <Skye> x_x
L415[11:08:40] <Izaya> https://gondola.stravers.net/video/GondolaCastle.webm
L416[11:10:35] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L417[11:10:35] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with twintails. 3 health gained!
L418[11:10:50] <Wuerfel_21> Is that a single frame webm or is discord broken again?
L419[11:11:23] <Izaya> it's a comfy timelapse
L420[11:11:42] <Izaya> your browser is broken I suppose
L421[11:12:31] <Inari> Izaya: Hah
L422[11:12:36] <Inari> That implicit bullying
L423[11:12:51] <Wuerfel_21> hmm, discord hasn't been playing webm correctly for a while now
L424[11:13:03] <Izaya> maybe they should update their chrome
L425[11:13:28] <Izaya> Lizzy: https://gondola.stravers.net/video/GondolaRuins.webm
L426[11:13:40] <Wuerfel_21> and it still won't embed *.opus files (but opus files renamed to *.ogg do)
L427[11:14:17] <Lizzy> whats this?
L428[11:14:50] <Izaya> I imagine the music should be familiar
L429[11:15:01] <Lizzy> sounds like Neir Automata
L430[11:15:12] * Izaya nods
L431[11:21:01] <Izaya> https://gondola.stravers.net/Minecraft.webm
L432[11:26:23] <EcmaXp (SkyBox)> hmm
L433[11:27:01] * Lizzy needs to finish Neir at some point
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L435[12:36:16] <oc> hi
L436[12:36:26] <oc> ex[t
L437[12:36:30] <oc> exot
L438[12:36:43] <oc> exit
L439[12:36:48] <Lizzy> you need to do /exit
L440[12:36:58] <oc> thx
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L443[12:39:00] <dequbed> Lizzy: We should make a bot check if somebody sends 1-char variations of 'exit' in short order and have it execute `/kick <user> Did you mean /exit?` :p
L444[12:40:28] <Not>Inari> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/qexuladiku
L445[12:40:29] <Not>Inari> ?
L446[12:42:31] * Inari steals AmandaC's warms
L447[12:54:41] <Lizzy> dequbed, heh
L448[13:15:32] <Lizzy> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45887725?ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_mchannel=social&ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_source=facebook hahah
L449[13:20:11] <AmandaC> Inari: hey! Those are mine! D:
L450[13:34:31] <AmandaC> %choose hallucinate more or meh
L451[13:34:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely meh.
L452[13:41:54] <Inari> %inv add AmandaC's wamrs
L453[13:41:55] * MichiBot summons 'AmandaC's wamrs' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L454[13:41:57] <Inari> AmandaC: not anymore!
L455[13:42:59] <AmandaC> D:
L456[13:50:59] <Lizzy> %give AmandaC AmandaC's wamrs
L457[13:50:59] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L458[13:51:08] <Lizzy> %give AmandaC "AmandaC's wamrs"
L459[13:51:09] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L460[13:51:15] <Lizzy> hmm
L461[13:51:26] <Lizzy> %give "AmandaC's wamrs" AmandaC
L462[13:51:26] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L463[13:51:29] <Lizzy> meh
L464[13:51:32] <Inari> Heh
L465[13:51:35] <Lizzy> enough pinging
L466[13:52:47] <vifino> Skye: zip it!
L467[13:52:59] <vifino> i have downloaded things
L468[13:53:30] <vifino> openrct2, 0ad, the openttd patch pack
L469[13:53:42] <Skye> woo
L470[13:53:43] <Lizzy> submit it to the supercompressor5000
L471[13:53:56] <Inari> Also known as LHC
L472[13:53:58] <Skye> vifino, what compression format
L473[13:54:05] <Inari> yes, i'll keep making that reference
L474[13:54:05] * vifino submits Lizzy to the supercompressor5000
L475[13:54:10] <Lizzy> nuuu
L476[13:54:13] <Skye> smol Lizzy
L477[13:54:14] * Lizzy is compressed
L478[13:54:18] <Skye> chibilizzy
L479[13:54:21] <Inari> Superthin lizzy
L480[13:54:26] <Inari> Reminds me of simpsons
L481[13:54:26] <vifino> Skye: tar.xz?
L482[13:54:34] * vifino pets Lizzy
L483[13:54:50] <Skye> vifino, so not 7z? :P
L484[13:54:52] * Lizzy purrs, uses dimensional energy to restore herself back to her full size
L485[13:54:57] <vifino> don't have 7z
L486[13:57:05] <Skye> vifino, p7z?
L487[13:57:52] <vifino> i know how to use it?
L488[13:57:58] <vifino> i still don't have it?
L489[13:58:02] <vifino> tar.xz is standard?
L490[13:58:07] <Skye> faur enough
L491[13:58:11] <vifino> you can also tar it and then apply zstd?
L492[13:58:42] <Skye> I'm on windows! D:
L493[13:58:47] <Lizzy> Skye, if you have 7zip on windows (idk if you use linux), it can compress to xz stuff IIRC
L494[13:58:58] <vifino> god, fine
L495[13:59:02] <vifino> i'll install p7z
L496[13:59:09] <Skye> tbh
L497[13:59:23] <Lizzy> alternatively, tell me where the files are or give them to me and i can compress them :P
L498[13:59:55] <Skye> hold on
L499[14:00:29] <vifino> just 7zip it
L500[14:00:32] <vifino> i don't care <_<
L501[14:00:55] <Skye> I'll zip my "content_download" folder
L502[14:01:25] <Skye> has a bunch of useless mods, etc
L503[14:01:31] <Skye> but it's the fastest
L504[14:02:00] <Skye> vifino, oh you need to download the openttd base sets
L505[14:02:22] <vifino> first i need to compile openttd .-.
L506[14:02:41] <Skye> I'll just compress the GRF files
L507[14:04:22] <Skye> compressing
L508[14:10:00] <AmandaC> Inari: https://i.imgur.com/ZvUlR9v.jpg
L509[14:10:07] <AmandaC> payonel: ^
L510[14:11:56] <Lizzy> vifino, https://files.theender.net/base-sfx-gfx.tar.xz opengfx sounds and graphics
L511[14:11:57] <vifino> guess i'm compiling openttd with lto
L512[14:11:58] <vifino> lol
L513[14:12:12] <Skye> vifino, does the computer warm you up at least
L514[14:12:23] <vifino> its freezing here, so not
L515[14:13:57] <Skye> uploading to my server
L516[14:14:21] <Skye> https://skyem.co.uk/newgrf.tar.xz
L517[14:14:55] <Skye> containes a bunch of files
L518[14:15:22] <payonel> @baschdel the uuid bug is fixed, your oc must be outdated
L519[14:15:26] <Inari> AmandaC: Wow, how much hair did that cat have before
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L521[14:34:48] <vifino> Izaya: got openrct2 going
L522[14:34:53] <vifino> openttd-jgr too
L523[14:35:04] <vifino> now i just need to install files somewhere i guess
L524[14:35:34] <vifino> Skye: where do i put that folder
L525[14:35:53] <vifino> nvm found it
L526[14:41:14] <vifino> mm software rendering
L527[14:41:19] <vifino> opengl 3.3 too new.
L528[14:41:41] <vifino> maybe SDL instead of allegro.
L529[14:43:31] <Compu> https://i.imgur.com/cupmikS.jpg
L530[14:51:31] <Inari> @Compo I love it
L531[14:52:45] <AmandaC> Would have been better with Belle in the eye
L532[14:53:09] <Inari> Heh :P
L533[15:01:08] <Inari> AmandaC: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/503296602664992791/unknown.png?width=843&height=677
L534[15:02:20] <AmandaC> Hehe
L535[15:11:31] <baschdel> payonel: thank you!
L536[15:12:34] <baschdel> Another question: can event handlers get interrupted if they take to long?
L537[15:13:23] <AmandaC> Everything can if they're in a tight loop. Too long without yielding
L538[15:17:42] <baschdel> just realized that "type" is a bad name for a variable ...
L539[15:36:28] <vifino> Skye: play with me?
L540[15:36:54] * Lizzy wonders if she can join too
L541[15:37:00] <vifino> duh.
L542[15:37:04] <Lizzy> :D
L543[15:37:15] <Skye> new map?
L544[15:37:54] <Lizzy> ?
L545[15:37:55] <vifino> probably a good idea?
L546[15:37:59] <Skye> alrighty.
L547[15:38:59] <Skye> vifino, Lizzy: complex or simpler? :P
L548[15:39:10] <dequbed> duplex!
L549[15:39:31] <vifino> (o_o) <- accurate representation of my expression
L550[15:39:45] * Lizzy shrugs
L551[15:39:50] <vifino> dequbed: play with us.
L552[15:39:59] <Lizzy> i'd like a bit more variety with regards to stuff on the map
L553[15:40:10] <vifino> we're all using the jgr thing?
L554[15:40:15] <dequbed> If somebody can link me the pack and my OpenTTD doesn't segfault on startup, sure.
L555[15:40:25] <dequbed> Will I need coffee? :p
L556[15:40:35] <Skye> vifino, Lizzy, dequbed: basically... either more trains and carriages and industries? or slightly more sane amounts of each
L557[15:40:39] <vifino> when do you not need coffee?
L558[15:40:54] <vifino> slightly sane sounds sane?
L559[15:41:20] <vifino> i dunno, i don't play games*.
L560[15:41:37] <dequbed> Skye: Any GRFs outside of vanilla?
L561[15:41:47] <vifino> a lot
L562[15:41:49] <Skye> dequbed, a lot, but all on the online content downloader
L563[15:41:56] <Lizzy> i think grfs sync when you join
L564[15:41:59] <Skye> yeah
L565[15:42:05] <Skye> but I predownloaded them for vifino
L566[15:42:08] <dequbed> Oh yeah right
L567[15:42:26] <vifino> vanilla openttd or the jgr thing, Skye?
L568[15:42:37] <Skye> vifino, jgr
L569[15:42:46] <Skye> also it cleared my list of mods... >_<
L570[15:42:49] <vifino> then tell that dequbed
L571[15:43:14] <Lizzy> dequbed, https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches
L572[15:43:45] <Skye> Lizzy, can you host the server if I give you the savegame
L573[15:43:50] <Lizzy> sure
L574[15:44:40] <vifino> i can also host if you all wanna experience 90's openttd
L575[15:45:11] <AmandaC> %choose ? or ??
L576[15:45:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I've heard ? is in these days
L577[15:45:27] * Lizzy wonders how outdated one of her arch vms on her server is
L578[15:45:56] <Skye> Lizzy, you will want to update the openttd
L579[15:46:11] <Lizzy> not that outdated... 4.18.5 compared to my systems 4.18.9
L580[15:46:14] <Lizzy> i know that
L581[15:46:53] <Lizzy> wow, only 79 packages to update
L582[15:47:01] <Lizzy> granted this vm doesn't have as much shit as my pc does
L583[15:47:57] <Lizzy> Skye, if you can, upload it to somewhere i can download easily with wget
L584[15:48:03] <Skye> okay
L585[15:48:08] <Skye> how big do people want the map
L586[15:48:24] <dequbed> Are we playing together or against each other?
L587[15:48:50] <vifino> can you do both?
L588[15:48:54] <Lizzy> at least 1024x1024, last time we filled up the map pretty quickly IIRC
L589[15:48:55] <Skye> both
L590[15:49:04] <Lizzy> well, with infrastructure sharing we can do both
L591[15:49:30] <Skye> yep
L592[15:49:34] <vifino> teams?
L593[15:49:40] <dequbed> Then very large so we can build one line across half the map to never care about money anymore. Or does the patchset remove that?
L594[15:49:45] <dequbed> vifino: shotgun!
L595[15:50:08] <vifino> am i the popular kid now?
L596[15:50:12] <Skye> dequbed, if it's too large vifino won't be able to join
L597[15:50:20] <dequbed> Skye: Point taken.
L598[15:50:24] <Skye> what starting year?
L599[15:50:41] <dequbed> vifino: No but you're cute and I'm going to make you lose because I am really bad at OpenTTD. It's one of those two.
L600[15:50:54] <vifino> lol
L601[15:50:55] <Skye> Lizzy, how big was the old map
L602[15:51:01] <Lizzy> 512x512
L603[15:51:15] <vifino> 1024x1024?
L604[15:51:27] <vifino> a kilobyte never hurt anyone.
L605[15:51:33] <Lizzy> 1024^2 is good to me
L606[15:52:09] <Skye> vifino, this map is megabytes huge
L607[15:52:16] <vifino> 2^10 sounds good.
L608[15:52:23] <vifino> oof.
L609[15:52:30] <vifino> i'll survive, maybe.
L610[15:52:38] <vifino> we can try.
L611[15:52:45] <vifino> i'll just.. wait a lot, i guess.
L612[15:52:51] <Skye> Lizzy, you're gonna want to open the config file and set the timeout to a very high number
L613[15:53:08] * Lizzy goes to see what her home server used for it's config
L614[15:53:25] <Skye> how about 1024 * 512 to halve the size
L615[15:53:30] <vifino> but
L616[15:53:41] <vifino> not square?! :<
L617[15:53:53] <Skye> youi want a square?
L618[15:54:00] <vifino> i like squares
L619[15:54:07] <dequbed> vifino: Quadratisch, praktisch, gut?
L620[15:54:08] <Lizzy> vifino^2
L621[15:54:13] <vifino> dequbed: mmyes
L622[15:54:15] <Skye> hm
L623[15:54:17] <Skye> starting year...
L624[15:54:28] <vifino> Lizzy: you couldn't handle that
L625[15:54:37] <vifino> in fact, none of you could.
L626[15:54:39] <Lizzy> try me :P
L627[15:54:41] <vifino> neither could i.
L628[15:55:00] <dequbed> Skye: 1984 because Venus!
L629[15:55:11] <Skye> :v
L630[15:55:13] <Skye> nah
L631[15:55:15] <vifino> seconded.
L632[15:55:26] <vifino> ~1990 is great.
L633[15:55:53] <Lizzy> there we go, compiling openttd is much faster when makepkg is told to run with 4 cores for the make rather than 1
L634[15:56:42] <Skye> vifino, that gives you way too many trains
L635[15:56:53] <vifino> i like trains.
L636[15:56:57] <Skye> how about 1890
L637[15:57:08] <vifino> but.. technology?!
L638[15:57:10] <vifino> UNIX?!
L639[15:57:22] <Skye> you will get one electric train
L640[15:57:47] <Skye> meh
L641[15:57:56] <Skye> look, we start with steam, then we upgrade to electric
L642[15:57:58] <Lizzy> urghh, i forgot the headache i had with trying to get graphics stuff working on the headless server
L643[15:58:06] <vifino> fine.
L644[15:58:10] <Skye> I like to have an established steam engine network before we go fukll upgrade time
L645[15:58:27] <dequbed> Lizzy: Why do do graphics then? o.o
L646[15:58:46] <Lizzy> idfk the bloody dedicated server doesn't even start unless it's present
L647[15:58:50] <Inari> %inv add molten salt
L648[15:58:51] * MichiBot summons 'molten salt' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L649[15:58:54] <Lizzy> and i can't remember how i fixed it last time
L650[15:59:03] <vifino> Xeyphr?
L651[15:59:27] <Skye> vifino, 1.28MB
L652[15:59:33] <dequbed> Lizzy: Huh, can't you compile OpenTTD to be console only?
L653[15:59:34] <vifino> i can do this
L654[15:59:51] <vifino> Xephyr it was.
L655[15:59:57] <Lizzy> well, i'm using the openttd-jgrpp AUR package, i remember getting it working before
L656[16:00:03] <Lizzy> not sure how many times i had to stab it though
L657[16:00:15] <vifino> oof.
L658[16:01:51] <dequbed> Skye: If we do Steam, can we then at least have ℳ or £ as currency and go with german or british town names from that period as well?
L659[16:02:11] <Skye> dequbed, well it's very british themed
L660[16:02:23] <vifino> DEUTSCHE MARK!
L661[16:02:26] <Lizzy> fuck it, i'ma recompile this manually. i think that's what i did last time
L662[16:02:26] <Skye> £, british town names, british engines
L663[16:02:34] <Skye> the DE trains are horribly broken
L664[16:02:49] <Skye> if they weren't I would have both DE and UK trains on the same map
L665[16:02:54] <Skye> and two islands...
L666[16:02:55] <Skye> heh
L667[16:02:55] <dequbed> vifino: Deutsche GOLDmark. You fucks had like 4 different "*mark".
L668[16:03:16] <vifino> what do you mean "you fucks", you're one of the fucks, dequbed.
L669[16:03:50] <dequbed> I'm about as german as your computer vifno.
L670[16:04:03] <vifino> so very? :>
L671[16:04:36] <Skye> dequbed, also miles per hour because I'm a horrible person
L672[16:04:41] <vifino> NO
L673[16:04:43] <vifino> I REFUSE
L674[16:04:50] <Skye> fine
L675[16:04:53] <Skye> metres per second
L676[16:04:58] <vifino> only sane units here.
L677[16:05:46] <dequbed> vifino: Assembled in Germany, designed fuck knows where, and all the parts are from everywhere but Germany :p
L678[16:06:05] <Skye> dequbed, designed in taiwan most likely
L679[16:06:10] <vifino> so you are assembled in germany, dequbed? ^^
L680[16:06:21] <Inari> Hint: It largely doesn't matter where stuff is manufactured
L681[16:07:10] <dequbed> Skye: Yeah probably, but that doesn't work in this methaphor. My parents decided somewhere in rural Russia to have me.
L682[16:07:42] <Skye> designed in russia
L683[16:07:54] <Skye> :P
L684[16:08:08] <vifino> (i know you have russian ancenstry. i know you long enough, vodka-addict.)
L685[16:08:32] <dequbed> vifino: I don't even have russian ancestry! They were there for completely unrelated reasons!
L686[16:09:08] <vifino> guess i didn't consider it important enough to remember what part of you is russian
L687[16:09:10] <vifino> *shrug*
L688[16:09:29] <dequbed> The vodka
L689[16:09:55] <vifino> that's a good answer
L690[16:14:32] <vifino> Skye/Lizzy: hurryyyy
L691[16:14:42] <vifino> i'm getting boooored
L692[16:14:46] * Lizzy proceeds to stab openttd more
L693[16:15:00] <Lizzy> actually, fuck it i'll just host it on my pc
L694[16:15:07] <vifino> thank you for being violent for me.
L695[16:15:16] <Skye> is Lizzy turning into a yandere now
L696[16:15:31] <Inari> Twitter needs better content filtering options
L697[16:15:41] <Lizzy> cause for some reason, even with the -D switch for dedicated server, it's still wanting an actuall graphics pack
L698[16:15:59] <Inari> D's likes nice graphics
L699[16:16:05] <vifino> oh, yeah, i am gonna mess around with a chainsaw on monday probably. :>
L700[16:17:09] <dequbed> vifino: If you hurt yourself please try to keep the saw away from your face, I think that's a quite cute part of you :p
L701[16:17:24] <dequbed> s/If/When you inevitably/g
L702[16:17:26] <MichiBot> <dequbed> vifino: When you inevitably you hurt yourself please try to keep the saw away from your face, I think that's a quite cute part of you :p
L703[16:17:39] <dequbed> ... close enough
L704[16:18:25] <vifino> and you said you aren't into me? ;)
L705[16:18:49] <Lizzy> dequbed, vifino, Skye, game is up. name is something like LizzyWantsToStabOpenTTD, pw is cookies
L706[16:18:57] <vifino> kk
L707[16:19:36] <Skye> Lizzy, can't see it?
L708[16:19:40] <Lizzy> hmm
L709[16:19:51] <vifino> it's not listing servers for me at all, so..
L710[16:20:13] <Lizzy> oh, lemme go fix the rule inmy router to point to my pc and not my server
L711[16:20:57] <Lizzy> Skye, try now
L712[16:21:00] <dequbed> vifino: Make sure you change "Advertised" to Yes in the top left corner of the MP screen
L713[16:21:08] <vifino> ah
L714[16:21:11] <Skye> vifino, also press "find server"
L715[16:21:18] <vifino> ooo many things
L716[16:21:37] <vifino> no server matching liz
L717[16:21:41] <Skye> yeah
L718[16:21:41] <Lizzy> vifino, try using 94.173.135.9
L719[16:21:49] * vifino nods
L720[16:22:13] <Skye> it says it's offline
L721[16:22:51] <Lizzy> what the fuck
L722[16:23:05] <vifino> version mismatch?
L723[16:23:11] <Skye> nah
L724[16:23:14] <Skye> it shows that
L725[16:23:20] <Lizzy> lemme re-host
L726[16:23:30] <dequbed> Lizzy: I'm seeing it but version mismatch as well.
L727[16:23:39] <Lizzy> wait
L728[16:24:10] <Skye> dequbed, red is mismatch, orange is "will download GRFs"
L729[16:24:14] <Lizzy> you guys are on 0.27.1 of the patchset, right?
L730[16:24:24] <dequbed> Skye: What is Gray?
L731[16:24:28] <vifino> i checked out the latest git?
L732[16:25:23] <Lizzy> latest git might be too latest
L733[16:25:28] <vifino> .-.
L734[16:25:32] <Lizzy> i have re-launched game, try again?
L735[16:25:39] <Lizzy> it's now called LizzyTheKitty
L736[16:25:57] <dequbed> Lizzy: I can see it with the new name but still can't join.
L737[16:26:06] <vifino> same
L738[16:26:36] <Lizzy> did you both build from sauce?
L739[16:26:40] <vifino> yes
L740[16:26:50] <dequbed> Lizzy: have you added some kind of join restriction/whitelist?
L741[16:27:33] <Skye> dequbed, offline
L742[16:27:42] <Lizzy> no, but i guess there's some really weird difference between the latest "release" and git. try reverting to ba8ddda0bc21ec4e5785060984122b028c3ecc31 (git comit)
L743[16:28:06] <Lizzy> Skye, is it showing offline for you?
L744[16:28:31] <Skye> Lizzy, I can't even see it
L745[16:28:38] <Lizzy> arghh
L746[16:28:44] * Lizzy stabs openttd some more
L747[16:28:46] <dequbed> Lizzy: Let me rebuild real quick ^^
L748[16:29:00] <Skye> I enter the IP and it says offline
L749[16:29:10] <vifino> i kinda need the later build, because a commit named this is after: Fix compilation on musl (#8067)
L750[16:29:18] <vifino> and i am on musl, so..
L751[16:29:31] <vifino> the only changes are fixes though
L752[16:29:46] <Skye> :/
L753[16:29:59] <Lizzy> i don't see it mentioning musl since that comit though
L754[16:30:01] <Skye> Lizzy, are the ports open
L755[16:30:20] <Lizzy> yes, i litterally just made sure it was pointing at my pc and not my home server
L756[16:30:38] <Skye> Lizzy, both TCP and UDP
L757[16:30:44] <Lizzy> yes Skye
L758[16:30:58] <Skye> what port?
L759[16:31:26] <dequbed> Skye: vifino and I could both see the server just fine.
L760[16:31:26] <vifino> wait, i'm silly.
L761[16:31:37] <vifino> this is rct2, not ttd
L762[16:31:47] <vifino> i was looking at the wrong git
L763[16:31:53] <Lizzy> lol
L764[16:31:56] <Skye> dequbed, if it's grey it means it's offline.
L765[16:32:11] <Skye> so basically, it could see the server in the OpenTTD advertisement list
L766[16:32:17] <Skye> buyt coudn;t acutally connect to it
L767[16:32:38] <dequbed> Skye: The Color of the Name just below "GAME INFO" is orange. Do you mean that?
L768[16:33:02] <Skye> oh uhhh
L769[16:33:07] <Lizzy> i can see it in a secondary client (granted it's probably just doing hairpin nat)
L770[16:33:08] <Skye> there should be a circle in the game list
L771[16:33:26] <dequbed> That's ... red?
L772[16:33:34] <Skye> means incompatible build
L773[16:33:39] <dequbed> \o/
L774[16:33:44] <Skye> aka build the older version?
L775[16:33:52] <dequbed> Lizzy: That's *literally* built from the commit you sent me .-.
L776[16:33:54] <Skye> now why can['t I even see it
L777[16:34:20] <Lizzy> arghh, thats the comit that supposedly had the 0.27.1 tag on it
L778[16:34:37] <Lizzy> which i think is what i've got
L779[16:34:40] <dequbed> Lizzy: TBF my version number in the main menu is 0.27.1M
L780[16:34:48] <Lizzy> oh what
L781[16:34:57] <vifino> M for masochist?
L782[16:35:06] <Lizzy> idk where the M comes from and that's probably causing some issues
L783[16:35:13] <vifino> (M)odified?
L784[16:35:45] <Skye> Lizzy, what port
L785[16:35:52] <Lizzy> default
L786[16:36:00] <Lizzy> 3979
L787[16:36:07] <Skye> "the server didn't answer the request"
L788[16:36:15] <Skye> wait a sec
L789[16:36:18] <Skye> I know what's going on
L790[16:36:25] <Skye> mikrotik don't do NAT nicely
L791[16:36:25] <Lizzy> you do?
L792[16:36:34] <Skye> so since I set up port forwarding for my own openttd
L793[16:36:39] <Lizzy> oh
L794[16:36:42] <Skye> I can't do outbound oenttd connections
L795[16:36:49] <Lizzy> well that's dumb
L796[16:36:50] <Skye> (how do I fix that pls)
L797[16:36:59] <Lizzy> take the rule out?
L798[16:37:02] <Skye> it's probably because I'm stupid
L799[16:37:05] <Lizzy> idk what else to suggest
L800[16:37:05] <vifino> don't use mikrotik?
L801[16:37:07] <Skye> and don;t know how to do nat
L802[16:37:17] <Skye> vifino, I haven't got the money for better stuff
L803[16:37:22] <vifino> i'm behind like.. 3 or 4 nats.
L804[16:38:30] <Skye> connected
L805[16:38:44] <Lizzy> i can see
L806[16:38:53] <Lizzy> now just to try getting the others in
L807[16:40:01] <dequbed> Skye: Did you build yourself or use a binary package?
L808[16:40:33] <Skye> binary win64 package
L809[16:41:01] <Lizzy> dequbed, try https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/archive/jgrpp-0.27.1.tar.gz maybe? That should be the same as the comit i posted above...
L810[16:43:08] <AmandaC> Mimiru: Don't suppose you have any advice for this: Been having some issues with my gaming PC's VNC server, when my HDMI switcher isn't set to the gaming PC, VNC only shows me a black 1080p screen. I'm guessing there's some regedit or something I can do for NVidia to alieviate this.
L811[16:43:54] <dequbed> Lizzy: I can't see that make a difference, so let me try something different first
L812[16:44:01] <Lizzy> ok
L813[16:46:14] <Lizzy> Skye, where'd you go?
L814[16:50:07] <vifino> ;_;
L815[16:50:18] <Lizzy> is anyone having any luck?
L816[16:50:34] <dequbed> Lizzy: I'm trying to build from the archive now.
L817[16:50:38] <Lizzy> ok
L818[16:50:44] <vifino> building from the archive too
L819[16:50:49] <vifino> and sobbing
L820[16:51:01] <vifino> gaming is hard
L821[16:51:05] * Lizzy hugs vifino
L822[16:51:10] * vifino hugs back
L823[16:51:25] <Skye> mew...
L824[16:51:34] <Skye> I'm sorry for starting this mess of openttd x_x
L825[16:51:50] <vifino> isfine
L826[16:52:07] * AmandaC cuddles up against Skye, stealing some of her warms since Inari went and stole hers
L827[16:52:26] <Inari> Hah
L828[16:53:15] <Skye> wah
L829[16:53:15] <dequbed> AmandaC: If you find a way to convert Lizzy's hatred for OpenTTD to heat you'd be set for live ;)
L830[16:53:35] <vifino> life*
L831[16:53:39] <vifino> lrn2spell noob
L832[16:53:44] ⇦ Quits: Inari (Inari!~Pinkishu@p5DEC6863.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: 'Luck is also a skill.' Iron-Arm Alchemist (Kamidori))
L833[16:53:51] <dequbed> vifino: fuk yu
L834[16:53:53] <Lizzy> not openttd itself, just the fact that i can't tell it to start the headless server without a graphics pack for some reason
L835[16:53:56] <vifino> ;>
L836[16:54:15] <AmandaC> I assume some metadata or another is alongside the graphics pack
L837[16:54:19] ⇦ Quits: Icedream (Icedream!~icedream@212.83.173.97) (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L838[16:54:25] <AmandaC> s/graphics/graphics in the/
L839[16:54:25] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I assume some metadata or another is alongside the graphics in the pack
L840[16:54:28] <dequbed> vifino: Ei kan spell veri good, ekskuse urzelf.
L841[16:54:45] <vifino> aaand i threw up on my laptop
L842[16:54:49] <AmandaC> D:
L843[16:54:52] <Lizzy> uhoh
L844[16:54:56] <AmandaC> That's not what laptops are for!
L845[16:54:59] <AmandaC> They're for warms!
L846[16:55:11] <dequbed> vifino: You should drink less :p
L847[16:55:20] <vifino> you are wrong about that
L848[16:55:24] <Skye> vifino, oh no... x_x
L849[16:55:43] <dequbed> vifino: Or more; to forget the abomination of spelling I just sent to this channel
L850[16:55:53] <vifino> yes.
L851[16:56:18] <AmandaC> At least it's not 1337 5p34k
L852[16:57:16] * AmandaC goes to put her paws in acid to get the filth of the last two tokens of that line off her
L853[16:57:33] <dequbed> Lizzy: I have good news and bad news: The archive doesn't work either. In fact, the version number you get by compiling that is even further away from what your server publishes.
L854[16:57:40] ⇨ Joins: Icedream (Icedream!~icedream@212.83.173.97)
L855[16:57:41] <AmandaC> %choose now or later
L856[16:57:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I've heard now is in these days
L857[16:57:45] <Lizzy> what the fuck
L858[16:57:54] <vifino> ?_?
L859[16:58:34] <Skye> dequbed, is there a compile flag to remove the M
L860[16:58:55] <vifino> dequbed: i just compiled it ;(
L861[16:59:03] <Lizzy> vifino, what does yours say?
L862[16:59:15] <vifino> one sec
L863[17:01:57] * Lizzy isn't sure what to do now to get us all working
L864[17:02:25] <vifino> it says OpenTTD jgrpp-0.27.1
L865[17:02:34] <dequbed> Huh.
L866[17:02:36] <vifino> i can join?
L867[17:02:44] <Lizzy> yes, you should be able to
L868[17:03:10] <Lizzy> i see a connecting client
L869[17:03:14] <vifino> woot
L870[17:03:18] <Lizzy> it's a vifi
L871[17:03:57] <Lizzy> so Skye connected then dissapeared, vifi is working.
L872[17:04:10] <Lizzy> idk what dequbed's computer is doing to openttd
L873[17:04:12] <vifino> i'm defective?
L874[17:04:21] <Lizzy> ?
L875[17:04:31] <vifino> how dare you call me working
L876[17:05:21] <dequbed> Lizzy: I'm going to assume PEBKAC until proven otherwise.
L877[17:05:57] <Lizzy> :/
L878[17:07:03] <Lizzy> idk what to suggest
L879[17:07:10] <Skye> dequbed, build flags?
L880[17:07:12] <AmandaC> dequbed: did you put the file int he right place?
L881[17:07:32] <AmandaC> Also, is the version number timestamped?
L882[17:07:57] <AmandaC> Self-compiled Proton is the build time in unix timestamps, at least.
L883[17:08:39] <dequbed> AmandaC: Which file? No, not this time. I'm getting version 0.27.1M instead of 0.27.1 as expected. Not using Proton either.
L884[17:08:42] <Lizzy> the version number is what is set in the source, which shouldn't randomly change
L885[17:09:08] <dequbed> Skye: no stripping, png, iconv, truetype, prefix. Nothing out of the ordinary.
L886[17:09:36] <AmandaC> un, whish side is 0.27.1M? Lizzy's server or your local one?
L887[17:09:53] <Skye> their compiled version
L888[17:10:00] <AmandaC> Hrm.
L889[17:10:08] <Lizzy> deq is 0.27.1M, mine (and now vifi's) are 0.27.1
L890[17:10:27] <AmandaC> M could be a git status indicator to weed out changed sources with no committed changes
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L892[17:10:59] <vifino> i built and installed from the archive
L893[17:11:12] <dequbed> AmandaC: It could. It could also be appended on non-default CFLAGS, configure flags, etc. I don't want to read the entire buildsystem to find out.
L894[17:11:30] <AmandaC> so clear the CFLAGS, configure flags, etc. :P
L895[17:11:37] <Lizzy> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=openttd-jgrpp is what arch does to it
L896[17:11:39] <vifino> dequbed: not cflags.
L897[17:11:42] <vifino> i built using -O2 -march=native -flto=4
L898[17:11:59] <dequbed> AmandaC: That's what I'm doing. If that's the problem I have to fix my ebuild .. some day. Not today
L899[17:12:47] <dequbed> =.=
L900[17:12:57] <Skye> https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/blob/jgrpp/.ottdrev-vc this seems to have the hash and version number
L901[17:13:26] <dequbed> That was the issue. I have to fix my ebuild then
L902[17:13:35] <dequbed> Or at least find out what flag toggles the M
L903[17:13:52] <Skye> https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/blob/jgrpp/version_utils.sh
L904[17:14:00] <dequbed> Lizzy: can I haz pw?
L905[17:14:05] <Lizzy> cookies
L906[17:14:32] <dequbed> Lizzy: Can I haz cookies then?
L907[17:14:52] * Lizzy gives dequbed a cookie
L908[17:15:01] * dequbed noms cookie :3
L909[17:15:13] <vifino> my openttd froze..
L910[17:15:22] <vifino> aand crashed
L911[17:15:25] <Lizzy> :/
L912[17:15:34] <ZefTheFox> dos didn't have fun http://tinyurl.com/y8q59em7
L913[17:15:58] <dequbed> vifino: I *already* broke your game? Score!
L914[17:16:12] <vifino> it breaks itself
L915[17:16:41] <Skye> is it too high latency?
L916[17:16:48] <vifino> dunno
L917[17:16:55] <vifino> maybe i zoomed out too much
L918[17:17:05] <AmandaC> @ZefTheFox emoji filenames?
L919[17:17:13] <Lizzy> that does cause the fps to tanke quite a bit
L920[17:17:22] <ZefTheFox> Nope, copying files onto an incorrectly configured drive
L921[17:17:39] <Skye> vifino, zooming out too much crashes it
L922[17:17:50] <Lizzy> doesn't for me
L923[17:17:57] <Lizzy> then again, i have a 970
L924[17:18:54] <Skye> it's CPU and network limited
L925[17:18:59] <vifino> i have a really hard overclocked T61
L926[17:19:06] <vifino> the gpu is glitchy
L927[17:19:15] <Skye> it's software rendered
L928[17:19:23] <vifino> still
L929[17:19:26] <vifino> everything is glitchy
L930[17:19:36] <vifino> my GPU's at 666MHz.
L931[17:19:42] <vifino> as opposed to 500.
L932[17:19:54] <vifino> is it still saving for you guys?
L933[17:20:22] <Lizzy> nope
L934[17:21:09] <Skye> map too big?
L935[17:22:39] <vifino> segfault
L936[17:22:39] <Kleadron> put a limit on the zoom
L937[17:22:48] <Skye> vifino, O_o
L938[17:23:22] <vifino> maybe i should clock my ram to sane levels
L939[17:23:36] <vifino> or stop zooming out
L940[17:23:56] <vifino> *** End of OpenTTD Crash Report ***
L941[17:24:07] <vifino> alright so when it saves it dies
L942[17:24:12] <Skye> vifino, you can set the max zoom level in the settings?
L943[17:24:14] <Skye> vifino, O_O
L944[17:24:29] <Lizzy> it should only be saving at december
L945[17:24:42] <vifino> maybe it crashes and does an emergency save
L946[17:24:43] <vifino> idk
L947[17:24:53] <vifino> not an expert
L948[17:26:17] <vifino> now it just segfaulted.
L949[17:26:21] <Lizzy> you are not having the best luck
L950[17:26:30] <vifino> clearly, i am not
L951[17:27:05] <vifino> let me recompile
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L953[17:28:59] <vifino> thank satan for emacs keybinds in zsh
L954[17:29:14] <vifino> ctrl-k is handy when copying things over and needing to wipe some lines
L955[17:34:22] <vifino> maybe without lto
L956[17:34:30] <Skye> dequbed, https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/blob/b80c3198ccd52f69bfcb74bebc505149b3fb6e42/config.lib#L1111
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L958[17:35:52] <Lizzy> Skye, dequbed is in now
L959[17:35:58] <Skye> oh okay
L960[17:43:52] <vifino> and it crashed again.
L961[17:44:33] <vifino> segfault in __cp_end
L962[17:44:43] <vifino> it failed in a syscall?
L963[17:44:47] <vifino> what the heck.
L964[17:45:00] <Skye> wuuut
L965[17:45:20] <vifino> >_> can we do regular openttd, not the jgr thing
L966[17:45:35] <Skye> that'd means we'd all have to be the same company
L967[17:45:40] <vifino> wait really
L968[17:45:46] <Skye> for infrastructure sharing
L969[17:45:51] * vifino flips everything
L970[17:46:38] <vifino> i have a second laptop
L971[17:46:41] <vifino> running windows
L972[17:46:45] <Skye> that could work
L973[17:50:30] <Skye> vifino, want the link?
L974[17:50:43] <vifino> to what?
L975[17:50:48] <Skye> the windows builds
L976[17:50:55] <vifino> i found it on the github
L977[17:51:25] <vifino> now that i closed some windows programs and marked the connection as metered it downloads it at 180KB/s
L978[18:00:16] <vifino> dequbed set a password to my company, now i can't join.
L979[18:00:39] * vifino slaps dequbed
L980[18:00:52] <vifino> Lizzy: slap them!
L981[18:01:19] <dequbed> vifino: Kekse
L982[18:01:22] <Lizzy> they have been slaped
L983[18:01:28] <vifino> thankyou
L984[18:03:57] <vifino> possible connection loss?
L985[18:04:40] <vifino> why does this game hate me so much
L986[18:04:45] <Skye> what happened?
L987[18:04:47] <Skye> timeout?
L988[18:04:54] <vifino> timeout
L989[18:05:03] <Skye> Lizzy, can you increase the server timeout settings?
L990[18:05:07] <Lizzy> i'll go bump up the timeouts some more
L991[18:06:25] <Izaya> https://sergalassets.b-cdn.net/media_attachments/files/000/501/132/original/8493f7114fa97333.jpg
L992[18:07:06] <Kodos> https://puu.sh/BOkty/21a4f26029.png This is going to be hilarious
L993[18:07:12] <Kleadron> amd is better than intel
L994[18:07:15] <Kleadron> change my mind
L995[18:07:34] <Kodos> Both have positives and negatives, tbh
L996[18:07:49] <Kodos> Personally, I prefer the stability of intel over the power of AMD
L997[18:08:03] <Compu> have this https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2018/7/13/1779883.jpeg
L998[18:08:08] <Izaya> one has higher IPC while costing more per core, the other is the opposite
L999[18:08:23] <Izaya> Compu: n-no
L1000[18:08:37] <Izaya> Kodos: Are you powering a computer with a hamster
L1001[18:08:55] <Compu> o3o
L1002[18:09:35] <Compu> https://www.deviantart.com/fluorbaryt/art/CMC-as-platelets-768948435
L1003[18:12:08] <Kleadron> no wonder his amd computer is unstable
L1004[18:12:10] <Kleadron> he uses hamsters
L1005[18:20:43] <Izaya> actually what's with this stability thing
L1006[18:20:57] <baschdel> %choose sleep or rewire energy grid
L1007[18:20:57] <MichiBot> baschdel: Out of these two choices? I'd say rewire energy grid.
L1008[18:21:07] <Izaya> Is it because they tend to release stuff before the drivers are really there
L1009[18:21:29] <baschdel> MichiBot: Then I take the other one
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L1011[18:28:58] <Kodos> Izaya, Yes, yes I am
L1012[18:29:26] <Kodos> You have to feed it every 25k RF or so
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L1023[19:10:46] <Sezze> How could I get a robot to extract items from refined storage?
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L1026[19:11:38] <dequbed> Lizzy: Uh, network syncronization Problem?
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L1029[19:11:50] <Lizzy> said you desynced on my end
L1030[19:11:56] * Lizzy shrugs
L1031[19:15:01] <MGR> I'm not sure how you could get a robot to, but you could use a computer with an adapter and put it in a chest for the robot
L1032[19:15:41] <Sezze> The thing is I need to search through items and it would be so inconvenient to have two computers communicate it all
L1033[19:16:37] <Sezze> But I might just have to do it if they can't connect to external components
L1034[19:18:39] <vifino> windows bsod'd, guess that's it
L1035[19:19:48] <vifino> night friends.
L1036[19:20:31] <Izaya> o/
L1037[19:20:46] <Lizzy> ninight vifi
L1038[19:20:55] <vifino> openrct2 tomorrow, Izaya? :D
L1039[19:21:02] <Izaya> we'll see
L1040[19:21:06] <Izaya> snowed under with Actual Work
L1041[19:21:11] <Izaya> soon, though
L1042[19:21:17] <vifino> yay
L1043[19:49:43] <AmandaC> is openrct2 multiplayer?
L1044[19:49:52] <Izaya> yeah, cooperative
L1045[19:50:18] <AmandaC> ooo
L1046[19:50:24] <AmandaC> more than 2 players?
L1047[19:50:31] <AmandaC> sounds like it might be fun
L1048[19:50:34] <Izaya> I think so
L1049[19:50:41] <Izaya> I gather it's rather unstable though
L1050[19:50:44] <AmandaC> ah
L1051[19:51:09] <Izaya> tfw TTD and RCT(2) were some of the best behaved programs of the time despite being written in assembly
L1052[19:53:20] <AmandaC> RCT at least also massively benifited from being a sole developer
L1053[19:53:27] <AmandaC> less people stepping on eachother's toes
L1054[19:53:32] <Izaya> this is true
L1055[19:53:37] <Izaya> one absolute madman
L1056[19:54:06] <AmandaC> That kind of stuff just doesn't really happen anymore. I can only think of Minecraft's beginnings as an example of a more recent one
L1057[19:54:17] <AmandaC> well, in games that are well-known at least
L1058[19:54:40] * Izaya nods
L1059[19:54:48] <Izaya> It's not hugely practical to do a game alone now
L1060[19:57:21] <AmandaC> with stuff like Unity it's at least feasible to get a MVP usually
L1061[19:57:47] <AmandaC> Though, my fucking around in that area is limited to playing with the Daydream / Cardboard APIs
L1062[19:57:48] <Izaya> and get promptly ignored because "it's just another indie unity game
L1063[19:57:49] <Izaya> ""
L1064[19:57:58] <AmandaC> true
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L1066[20:17:17] <AmandaC> %choose keep waiting or halucinate
L1067[20:17:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You *could* do keep waiting, I guess.
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L1076[22:10:12] <Izaya> >windows explorer reproducably crashes when I attempt to access any network folders
L1077[22:10:16] <Izaya> incredible
L1078[22:18:42] <logan2611> >i dont use windows
L1079[22:18:45] <logan2611> incredible
L1080[22:19:36] <Izaya> that does solve all my personal issues, but uh
L1081[22:19:40] <Izaya> "The customer is always right"
L1082[22:22:51] <Izaya> if they want alpha-quality software, who am I to tell them otherwise
L1083[22:54:21] <logan2611> lol
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