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L1[00:02:44] <Izaya> "All the flags are red when you look through rose-coloured glasses"
L2[00:04:23] <freacknate09> Hmm, I middle-clicked on a hard-drive, and deleted it
L3[00:04:58] <freacknate09> And a lot of parts. odd
L4[00:06:50] <Kleadron> rip
L5[00:07:12] <gamax92> it was meant to be
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L7[00:23:43] <Z0idburg> why is it 1:30
L8[00:23:51] <Z0idburg> it shouldn't be so late
L9[00:24:37] <Z0idburg> whew
L10[00:24:43] <Z0idburg> just took two showers in the past hour
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L12[00:33:06] <Izaya> CT110 for $1200
L13[00:40:28] <Izaya> @Z0idburg opinions on https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/byron-bay/motorcycles/honda-ct-110-postie-bike/1191240935 ?
L14[00:40:50] <Izaya> It's close enough to easily transport
L15[00:41:08] <Izaya> Rego as of some time last month
L16[00:42:06] <Kodos> Wheee no internet
L17[00:45:48] <Kleadron> if theres no internet how are you communicating
L18[00:46:48] <Izaya> SMS
L19[00:48:55] <Mimiru> RFC 2549
L20[00:51:55] <Izaya> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/16/who_hacked_apple_ozzie_ozzie_ozzie_boy_boy_boy/
L21[00:54:40] <Kodos> Data
L22[01:21:43] <Izaya> Mimiru: someone found the source https://reddit.com/comments/97swpr
L23[01:21:56] <Mimiru> !
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L25[01:39:42] * Izaya hmms
L26[01:40:18] <Izaya> If you were using a 5W CPU rather than the 35W CPU in the T420 think you could forgo the fan?
L27[01:40:57] <Forecaster> %loot
L28[01:40:57] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains roberto's knife.
L29[01:42:40] <Izaya> Forego?
L30[01:44:10] <Forecaster> forego
L31[01:56:13] <beesnees2> I am producing a 42x42 cube of coal blocks every 36 minecraft days
L32[01:57:18] <Forecaster> that's nice
L33[01:58:05] <beesnees2> and about a 14.5 x 14.5 cube of diamond block
L34[02:05:22] <beesnees2> according to wolfram|alpha, I am producing gold at 12 times the rate of New York City trash production
L35[02:05:41] <beesnees2> 1.432*10^8 kg per day
L36[02:09:47] <beesnees2> unfortunately my coal production is only 0.0638% the flow rate of niagara falls
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L38[02:41:59] <Izaya> tfw vim no longer treats your golfed code as valid lua
L39[02:45:48] <Forecaster> limit break!
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L41[03:14:01] <Izaya> :3
L42[03:14:03] <Izaya> well
L43[03:14:16] <Izaya> I now have a program that will run as an EEPROM
L44[03:14:25] <Izaya> and acts as both a key/value store
L45[03:14:50] <Izaya> and when there's already a function where you're trying to {read from,write to} it'll execute that
L46[03:15:40] <Izaya> this can be used for, for example, redstone control :D
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L48[03:17:01] <Forecaster> I have no idea what you're talking about :P
L49[03:17:20] <Izaya> alright so I have this program that sits on top of my embedded version of minitel
L50[03:17:29] <Izaya> it has a table
L51[03:17:45] <Izaya> you can remotely either query or set values in that table
L52[03:17:52] <Forecaster> is it the fabled table of legend?
L53[03:17:57] <Izaya> that alone isn't very useful, but
L54[03:18:08] <Izaya> if there's a function in that table
L55[03:18:22] <Izaya> when you query it, it'll execute it without arguments and send back what it returns
L56[03:18:49] <Izaya> and when you try to set it, it'll run the function with whatever you tried to set it to
L57[03:19:00] <Izaya> so if you had a function called redstone_up in the table
L58[03:19:16] <Izaya> if not given arguments, it would read the redstone state from above
L59[03:19:34] <Izaya> if it were given an argument, it'd set the level of redstone coming out of the top
L60[03:20:19] <Izaya> plus you can implement wtf else you want as a function and access it all the same way
L61[03:26:42] <Izaya> ~w redstone
L62[03:26:42] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
L63[04:08:40] <Izaya> >creative case
L64[04:08:43] <Izaya> >not enough energy
L65[04:29:24] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/dhucnc.webm
L66[04:36:56] <Forecaster> a microcontroller with a screen would be cool
L67[04:37:06] <Forecaster> basically a screen with a computer in it
L68[04:37:16] <Forecaster> would be great for things like elevator terminals
L69[04:51:54] * Izaya nods
L70[04:52:06] <Izaya> That would be very nice for me
L71[04:52:26] <Izaya> Great for dumb terminals
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L75[05:18:20] <Forecaster> Though it'd force me to compact the client program
L76[05:23:20] <Inari> Compact!
L77[05:23:32] <Inari> @Kodos Lame :f
L78[05:23:52] <Inari> %logs
L79[05:23:52] <MichiBot> Inari: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L80[05:24:53] <Inari> Forecaster: Microcontrollers being more useful in general would be cool
L81[05:40:39] <Forecaster> orly
L82[05:46:57] <Inari> https://twitter.com/AceYuriBot/status/1030405283389079554
L83[05:46:58] <MichiBot> Fri Aug 17 05:45:38 CDT 2018 @AceYuriBot: <https://t.co/7WqvNr623A&gt; <https://t.co/nDx0HHBiA4&gt;
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L86[06:06:31] <Forecaster> %loot time
L87[06:06:31] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny clockwork CRT monitor! (10%)
L88[06:06:37] <Forecaster> ooh
L89[06:12:23] <Inari> I spy with my little eye
L90[06:12:29] <Inari> https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/JxEJCJAFJseaKVxyuqg-PH8t_nK7rtz1NhWlQMfSmWQ/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/358039997372432385/479832874431021086/unknown.png Eyes that are way too big!
L91[06:13:14] <Forecaster> I raise you
L92[06:13:17] <Forecaster> https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/alita-battle-angel-anime-eyes-2_fox.jpg
L93[06:13:49] <Inari> Heh
L94[06:17:46] <Inari> %loot
L95[06:17:47] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains some half-melted snow.
L96[06:17:58] <Inari> %drink ^
L97[06:17:59] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L98[06:19:25] <Forecaster> %drink thick chocolate potion
L99[06:19:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster looses one point of speed
L100[06:19:29] <Forecaster> :|
L101[06:19:43] <Forecaster> %drink thin blue potion
L102[06:19:43] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L103[06:21:07] <Forecaster> oh, well I'll add that keyword to the todo list
L104[06:21:31] <Izaya> ooo
L105[06:21:37] <Izaya> DXVK DX10 support is a thing nowe
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L107[07:34:01] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/three-course-disaster/99003/
L108[07:34:03] <Forecaster> woooow
L109[07:34:14] <Forecaster> that's a recipe for disaster isn't it
L110[07:59:42] <Wuerfel_21> ayy my wii outrun port works. sortof. http://tinyurl.com/y9wffbst
L111[08:01:34] <Forecaster> "works" great :>
L112[08:04:03] <Wuerfel_21> i think there is an issue in the part where the pixels get poked into the GPU's framebuffer one-by-one
L113[08:14:11] <Inari> Forecaster: haha, thats great
L114[08:14:16] <Inari> I'm surprised they didn't kick him out yet
L115[08:21:34] <Inari> https://i.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0123/28/1407230731718.jpg <3
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L120[08:58:52] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L121[09:01:16] <Inari> %inv add a guidebook to becoming a emergency remote body operator
L122[09:01:17] * MichiBot summons 'a guidebook to becoming a emergency remote body operator' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L123[09:03:39] <AmandaC> Trying to expand a platform: "Can not place: Ship is in the way" .. wtf you mean? look down: https://nc.ddna.co/index.php/s/XLdWCKZTgNxNMK3
L124[09:04:05] <Inari> A watership!
L125[09:13:19] <Inari> AmandaC: https://twitter.com/sleepy_kotoki/status/1030110867784908800
L126[09:13:19] <MichiBot> Thu Aug 16 10:15:44 CDT 2018 @sleepy_kotoki: Let's begin?
L127[09:17:09] <AmandaC> I should finish that
L128[09:22:29] <Inari> https://twitter.com/acupictura/status/1030459161715384320 neat
L129[09:22:30] <MichiBot> Fri Aug 17 09:19:43 CDT 2018 @acupictura: 양말에 꽃자수를 놓는 중이에요!????? <https://t.co/51XJwWjUsc&gt;
L130[09:22:46] <Inari> AmandaC: You should :D
L131[09:36:12] <Inari> %inv add a devouress
L132[09:36:13] * MichiBot summons 'a devouress' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L133[09:46:35] * Inari sticks AmandaC into a pretty dress
L134[09:46:38] <Inari> ( https://twitter.com/AutizmoAutizm/status/1030458817358782464 )
L135[09:46:38] <MichiBot> Fri Aug 17 09:18:21 CDT 2018 @AutizmoAutizm: #CuteLittleFang <https://t.co/Ja2dpovS5Q&gt;
L136[09:49:42] * AmandaC glares at Inari until she takes this portable prison off her
L137[09:50:14] <Izaya> aight everyone
L138[09:50:26] <Izaya> both of my desktop's HDDs are now dead
L139[09:50:37] <Izaya> give me your dumbest ideas on how I should store my Steam library
L140[09:53:59] <Inari> punchcards
L141[09:54:43] <Izaya> ...
L142[09:54:50] <Izaya> well, that's certainly what I asked for
L143[09:55:15] <Inari> Fine
L144[09:55:22] <Inari> String ram
L145[09:55:37] <Izaya> now that's an interesting idea
L146[09:55:50] <Inari> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_line_memory#/media/File:Torsion_wire_delay_line.jpg something like that
L147[09:56:05] <Izaya> why don't I like
L148[09:56:12] <Izaya> use the natural properties of air as a delay line
L149[09:57:08] <Izaya> I could have a speaker screaming out 9600 baud dialup and a microphone to read it on the other side of the room
L150[10:05:18] <Forecaster> Izaya: literal steam
L151[10:05:21] <Forecaster> how? no idea
L152[10:05:35] <Izaya> smoke signals
L153[10:05:40] <Izaya> except steam
L154[10:05:56] <Forecaster> but smoke signals are for communication, not storage
L155[10:06:16] <Inari> Well, they stay in th eair for a little
L156[10:06:21] <Izaya> ^
L157[10:06:44] <Forecaster> that's *very* short-term memory :P
L158[10:06:55] <Inari> Thats why you read them before they vanish
L159[10:06:57] <Inari> and re-emit them
L160[10:07:14] <Izaya> ^
L161[10:07:17] <Forecaster> I guess that's how magnetic harddrives work :P
L162[10:07:18] <Izaya> delay steam memory
L163[10:07:25] <Izaya> nope
L164[10:07:33] <Izaya> hey I have an even better idea
L165[10:07:34] <Forecaster> well sort of
L166[10:07:43] <Izaya> I should disassemble all of the electronics in the house
L167[10:07:46] <Forecaster> the magnetism will fade with time
L168[10:07:49] <Izaya> build myself some core memory
L169[10:07:53] <Inari> It's more related to delay line memory though
L170[10:07:58] <Inari> Like the wire thing I linked up tehre
L171[10:20:51] <freacknate09> Does OpenOS have a central command line interpreter? If so, where is it? I don't think it is kernel.lua
L172[10:21:31] <Izaya> /bin/sh.lua
L173[10:21:34] <Izaya> ie the shell
L174[10:21:45] <Izaya> you can replace it or switch to a different shell if you want, too
L175[10:21:51] <freacknate09> ok
L176[10:22:02] <Izaya> like any good unix-like system
L177[10:22:28] <freacknate09> Thanks :) I want to look at it and see how it works indepth, since I Want to make one
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L181[10:32:56] <AmandaC> %choose Feels or Magic
L182[10:32:57] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Magic
L183[10:33:20] <freacknate09> %choose Code or No?
L184[10:33:21] <MichiBot> freacknate09: No?
L185[10:33:24] <freacknate09> dang
L186[10:33:35] <freacknate09> Well, idc what MichiBot says
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L189[10:37:22] <freacknate09> %choose Code OC or Code PO
L190[10:37:23] <MichiBot> freacknate09: Code OC
L191[10:37:27] <freacknate09> good bot
L192[10:39:55] <Inari> "Hospital management system project in php" Budget: 800-1500 Euros
L193[10:39:56] <Inari> Mhmm
L194[10:41:07] <freacknate09> wow, I've not done any kind of coding/programming outside of hobbyist, and that seems cheap. Am I right?
L195[10:41:20] <gamax92> Izaya: have you seen pipewire?
L196[10:41:24] <Inari> Probably xD I seem to get more for less important projects haha
L197[10:41:30] <Inari> https://www.twago.de/project/hospital+management+system+project+in+php/132241/
L198[10:41:33] <Inari> %actualshrug
L199[10:41:33] <MichiBot> Inari: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L200[10:42:03] <Izaya> gamax92: isn't that pulseaudio 2: video boogaloo
L201[10:42:10] <gamax92> yeah
L202[10:42:22] <Izaya> keep it away from me
L203[10:42:24] <freacknate09> Inari: Wow, looking at that. They want all that and so little money
L204[10:42:25] <gamax92> :(
L205[10:42:46] <Izaya> pulse is trash and now they want to include video too?
L206[10:42:47] <Inari> Yeah xD
L207[10:42:55] <Inari> Maybe they count on someone having an easily adaptable system already made
L208[10:42:57] <gamax92> I mean it's not pulse though
L209[10:43:15] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L210[10:43:15] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a birb. 9 health gained!
L211[10:43:16] <Inari> %loot
L212[10:43:16] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny bath salts that make you smell like lewdness all day long! (10%)
L213[10:43:21] <Inari> Oooh
L214[10:43:22] <Izaya> it's the same people, isn't it?
L215[10:43:28] <Inari> I was about to go bathing anyway
L216[10:43:38] <freacknate09> %loot
L217[10:43:38] <MichiBot> freacknate09: You get a loot box! It contains an unlabeled key.
L218[10:43:43] <freacknate09> well, that sucks
L219[10:43:44] <gamax92> They want to avoid various things pulse does anyway
L220[10:43:55] * Izaya squints
L221[10:44:01] <Izaya> well, the only thing pulse has done for me is not work
L222[10:44:04] <Izaya> so that's a good goal
L223[10:44:27] <Izaya> I'm guessing pipewire depends on systemdicks?
L224[10:44:39] <gamax92> Apparently it currently supports alsa and jack clients, and has bluez and gstreamer support
L225[10:44:54] <gamax92> pulse isn't supported but most can alsa fallback and apulse is still a thing
L226[10:45:01] <freacknate09> Since when was devfs part of base OpenOS? I see it when I go to install OpenOS, and I recall it being a program someone made
L227[10:45:28] <freacknate09> It confuses me
L228[10:45:49] <????????????> computer.uptime is not working
L229[10:45:59] <gamax92> Corded what
L230[10:46:00] <Izaya> nor is your username jesus christ
L231[10:46:01] <Inari> Elaborate
L232[10:46:23] <gamax92> also I don't see systemd listed in the deps
L233[10:46:24] <????????????> it gives a nil value
L234[10:46:40] <????????????> the computer component is loaded
L235[10:46:55] <Izaya> computer component and computer API are different
L236[10:46:58] <Izaya> !next
L237[10:47:08] <dankcatlord> I know
L238[10:47:26] <Izaya> the API provides uptime, the component does not
L239[10:47:41] <dankcatlord> ok
L240[10:47:44] <Inari> Well
L241[10:47:50] <Inari> if its not loaded, you can't even call it though, no?
L242[10:48:09] <Inari> Not sure if they called it
L243[10:48:09] <dankcatlord> it gives a nil no matter what I do
L244[10:48:12] <Inari> Or just printed computer.uptime
L245[10:48:20] <Inari> Show your code I guess
L246[10:48:25] <dankcatlord> ok
L247[10:48:46] <gamax92> apis in OpenOS aren't loaded by default except for standard lua apis, you have to `local computer = require("computer")` before you can use it
L248[10:49:05] <dankcatlord> function wait( i )
L249[10:49:06] <dankcatlord> gpu.set( 2, 2, computer.uptime() )
L250[10:49:06] <dankcatlord> end
L251[10:49:22] <Inari> Thats not your whole code :D
L252[10:49:51] <dankcatlord> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/umopadegat
L253[10:50:05] <Inari> See
L254[10:50:10] <Inari> You're using the compuer component
L255[10:50:12] <Inari> not the API
L256[10:50:30] <Inari> Also you're not actaully calling wait
L257[10:50:39] <dankcatlord> should I change the computer variable to something different?
L258[10:50:47] <Inari> Yes, as gamax said
L259[10:50:52] <dankcatlord> ok
L260[10:50:52] <Inari> `local computer = require("computer")`
L261[10:50:57] <dankcatlord> thanks
L262[10:52:47] <freacknate09> @everyone Can I use the bot to ping everyone?
L263[10:52:57] <freacknate09> wow, I guess not
L264[10:53:03] <Inari> I believe that got fixed, if it was a case once
L265[10:53:05] <freacknate09> It just pinged Forecaster
L266[10:53:19] <freacknate09> IDK who that is, but that is who got pinged
L267[10:54:05] <gamax92> Forecaster is Forecaster
L268[10:54:10] <Forecaster> what
L269[10:54:21] <Inari> Haha
L270[10:54:24] <freacknate09> lol, I pinged you on mistake Forecaster, I tried to do an @ everyone
L271[10:54:26] <Izaya> Forecaster is not Forecaster
L272[10:54:28] <Inari> It replaced @everyone with Forecaster?
L273[10:54:32] <freacknate09> yeah
L274[10:54:34] <Inari> Brilliant
L275[10:54:37] <Inari> who wrote that? :D
L276[10:54:38] <Forecaster> uh
L277[10:54:55] <freacknate09> I want to be friends with whoever added that xd
L278[10:55:20] <gamax92> https://github.com/EmberVulpix/DifferentSLIAuto
L279[10:55:56] <Inari> @everyone I liked your Jill AV more btw :<
L280[10:56:04] <AmandaC> Inari: halp, Magic turned out to be Feels. D:
L281[10:56:10] <gamax92> I might try out pipewire
L282[10:56:15] <Inari> AmandaC: magic?
L283[10:56:21] <freacknate09> Inari: it pinged forecaster again
L284[10:56:25] <Forecaster> inari: you don't like my dead raider?
L285[10:56:35] <Inari> freacknate09: I know
L286[10:56:37] <AmandaC> Inari: https://myanimelist.net/anime/35333/Hitori_no_Shita__The_Outcast_2nd_Season
L287[10:56:43] <Inari> @everyone nope
L288[10:56:43] <freacknate09> Inari: Ok
L289[10:57:06] <Inari> %pet AmandaC's feels
L290[10:57:07] * MichiBot pets AmandaC's feels with a putit. 3 health gained!
L291[10:57:10] <freacknate09> Is there a half-decent IRC client for ios? I just recently got an iPad
L292[10:57:34] <Forecaster> inari: shame :P
L293[10:57:39] <AmandaC> I use IRCCloud, it's got an iOS app as well
L294[10:57:50] <freacknate09> ok. I use HexChat on my PC
L295[10:58:03] <AmandaC> No experience with it though, as I only use it on my laptop + (android) phone
L296[10:58:08] <gamax92> I use DooM on my cupboard
L297[10:58:43] <freacknate09> AmandaC: Ok. I am primarily android, but got an iPad. Definitely not converting to Apple though, just because I have an iPad
L298[10:59:14] <gamax92> I only had an iPad because I wanted to draw on it but then I kinda realized that it sucks
L299[10:59:33] <gamax92> and I don't have a good stylus for it
L300[10:59:44] <freacknate09> That is largely why I got one. I got an apple pencil for it
L301[11:00:01] <Inari> apple pen!
L302[11:00:16] <freacknate09> I've always heard apple pencil, not pen lol
L303[11:00:28] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFBHZbgmSA
L304[11:00:30] <MichiBot> PIKOTARO - PPAP vs AXEL F (Official Video) | length: 2m 51s | Likes: 24,912 Dislikes: 4,332 Views: 5,077,361 | by Ultra Music | Published On 18/11/2016
L305[11:02:30] <freacknate09> MichiBot: God bot
L306[11:02:35] <freacknate09> good bot, not god bot
L307[11:02:43] <gamax92> God boot
L308[11:02:52] <freacknate09> lol
L309[11:03:13] <Inari> I should've done more research before bying this cellphone
L310[11:03:24] <Corded> * <Forecaster> pets MichiBot
L311[11:03:34] <Inari> %pet Forecaster
L312[11:03:34] * MichiBot brushes Forecaster with AmandaC's usb port. 6 health gained!
L313[11:03:34] <Forecaster> hm, I thought there was a response to that
L314[11:03:39] <Inari> L-lewd
L315[11:03:50] * Inari pets MichiBot
L316[11:03:50] * MichiBot purrs
L317[11:04:05] <Forecaster> oh, I guess that doesn't work through corded?
L318[11:04:10] <Inari> Appurrently
L319[11:04:15] <Forecaster> also what cellphone?
L320[11:04:24] <Inari> Moto G3
L321[11:04:31] <Inari> (bought it a couple years ago)
L322[11:04:43] <Inari> It's lacking features just keep growing more annoying :P
L323[11:04:51] <Forecaster> ah
L324[11:05:02] <Forecaster> I'm gonna get the Galaxy S10 when it comes out next year :>
L325[11:05:05] * Izaya hasn't noticed anything lacking with his G3
L326[11:05:13] <Inari> No NFC, No Gyroscope, too little storage/ram
L327[11:05:20] <Izaya> Well, with the exception of an easily replaceable battery
L328[11:05:26] <freacknate09> dang, that is lacking
L329[11:06:06] <Izaya> Nonsense
L330[11:06:13] <Izaya> Okay the gyro is lacking
L331[11:06:22] <gamax92> my iPad is an older one, 32bit
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L333[11:06:36] <Inari> Izaya: I'm /always/ out of storage
L334[11:06:37] <Inari> :P
L335[11:06:42] <Izaya> 16GB is fine for storage if you put your media on an SD card and 2GB of RAM is heaps
L336[11:07:00] <Inari> Izaya: Finding a SD card thats quick and good for that is a pain though
L337[11:07:00] <Inari> :f
L338[11:07:08] <freacknate00> hello?
L339[11:07:11] <gamax92> bye
L340[11:07:12] <freacknate00> good
L341[11:07:15] <Izaya> I got a $30 one from Aldi \o/
L342[11:07:28] <Inari> Izaya: And the apps you put on that don't take 5 minutes to load?
L343[11:07:28] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/6yPZyunfFdjw_60599.png
L344[11:07:35] <Izaya> I don't put apps on it.
L345[11:07:39] <freacknate00> wow, wrong nick
L346[11:07:41] <Inari> See, theres your issue
L347[11:07:42] <Inari> :3
L348[11:07:44] <Izaya> Plenty of internal space.
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L350[11:08:00] <Izaya> Perhaps your issue is that you have bloatware installed.
L351[11:08:05] <Inari> I only have 8gb
L352[11:08:06] <gamax92> @Wuerfel_21 Are you using Wii Linux?
L353[11:08:08] <Inari> and its always full
L354[11:08:08] <Izaya> For example, Google services?
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L356[11:08:25] <Izaya> Oh
L357[11:08:32] <Izaya> You got the 1GB/8GB model
L358[11:08:38] <Izaya> Yeah that seems a little anemic
L359[11:08:46] <Izaya> 2GB/16GB here
L360[11:08:52] <Inari> Googl eis only like 350 mb
L361[11:09:08] <Izaya> Unnecessary bloat.
L362[11:09:11] <Izaya> Kills battery life.
L363[11:10:52] <Forecaster> %loot
L364[11:10:53] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains the extra-terrestrials guide to earth fourth edition.
L365[11:11:19] <Izaya> It makes me sad that I'll have to replace this thing eventually tbh
L366[11:11:37] <Izaya> This thing is so solid and everything newer is shit
L367[11:12:43] <Wuerfel_21> gamax92, no, bare metal (well, IOS and libogc, but no proper OS)
L368[11:12:46] <Izaya> Maybe pmOS on the Nexus 5 will be solid enough by that point and I can get a used one of those
L369[11:14:11] <gamax92> I should try and figure out why my homebrew renders nothing on newer binutils.
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L374[11:18:32] <freacknate09> I'm just gonna stick with HexChat on my PC, and be freacknate10 on my tablet
L375[11:20:24] <Izaya> Bouncer?
L376[11:20:51] <freacknate09> Why?
L377[11:21:20] <Izaya> so you can connect multiple clients with the same nicm
L378[11:21:22] <Izaya> Nick
L379[11:21:42] <freacknate09> ahh, ok. I may look into it if it isnt paid
L380[11:21:59] <Izaya> You can get free ones if you trust the host
L381[11:22:01] <freacknate09> ok
L382[11:22:03] <Forecaster> there's plenty of free ones
L383[11:22:08] <Izaya> Or you can run a bouncer yourself
L384[11:22:16] <freacknate09> ok
L385[11:22:26] * Izaya boredly contemplates offering bouncer services
L386[11:23:16] <freacknate09> hah! Broke MineOS
L387[11:23:26] <Izaya> Of course, as far as clients go for iOS... good luck
L388[11:23:37] <Izaya> :S
L389[11:23:50] <freacknate09> I primarily do IRC on pc
L390[11:25:01] <Skye> Izaya, you'd have to pay for IRC
L391[11:25:14] <Skye> but the apps that exist are good
L392[11:25:15] <Izaya> Heresy.
L393[11:25:21] <freacknate09> I got a free IOS client Skye
L394[11:25:29] <Izaya> I bet none of it is FOSS either
L395[11:25:34] <beesnees2> can always set up your own bouncer
L396[11:25:55] <Skye> irccloud isn't great
L397[11:26:18] <freacknate09> Still, it is a client
L398[11:26:44] <Skye> Palaver was a good one for iOS
L399[11:26:52] <Skye> you had to pay but it was cheap and worked well
L400[11:26:54] <Forecaster> I like irssi
L401[11:26:56] <Forecaster> :>
L402[11:27:07] <beesnees2> weechat though
L403[11:27:10] <Izaya> that's an option
L404[11:27:15] <Izaya> ssh into your server
L405[11:27:21] <beesnees2> weechat in tmux = a sort of kind of bouncer
L406[11:27:30] <Izaya> Surely there's a free ssh client for iOS
L407[11:27:48] <Skye> Izaya, not any good ones
L408[11:27:54] <Skye> the only free ones are quite frankly, poor
L409[11:27:57] <Izaya> bleh
L410[11:28:06] <Skye> to be fiar, so are all the android ones
L411[11:28:11] <beesnees2> solution: throw away the iphone
L412[11:28:25] <Izaya> Why would anyone use iOS if you can't talk to people and you can't use it to log into other stuff
L413[11:28:32] <Izaya> Skye: connectbot is competent
L414[11:28:43] <Izaya> Not as good as JuiceSSH but it's competent
L415[11:28:47] <Forecaster> I just use an ssh client on my phone :P
L416[11:29:19] <freacknate09> JFC, I do not have an iPhone, and I am pretty much _just_ android for phones, and I happen to have an iPad
L417[11:29:25] <Izaya> But of course, Revolution exists which is actually really solid as a client so \o/
L418[11:33:26] <Izaya> I got it
L419[11:33:40] <Izaya> You RDP into a machine with a proper IRC client
L420[11:34:45] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzwtCBj5jEs
L421[11:34:45] <MichiBot> LGR Oddware - MiniDisc Data Storage: Sony MDH-10 | length: 16m 15s | Likes: 1,448 Dislikes: 17 Views: 11,704 | by LGR | Published On 17/8/2018
L422[11:37:58] <freacknate09> How do I read/write data to/from a Computronics tape drive
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L425[11:38:40] <raddishjoke> yay I got this working
L426[11:38:51] <freacknate09> Are you in an ingame IRC client?
L427[11:38:55] <raddishjoke> Yes
L428[11:39:02] <freacknate09> Nice, custom or OpenIRC?
L429[11:39:10] <raddishjoke> wocchat
L430[11:39:18] <raddishjoke> openirc didn't work for me
L431[11:39:25] <freacknate09> Haven't heard of wocchat
L432[11:39:37] * ben_mkiv has a mini disc player with usb
L433[11:39:59] <freacknate09> me test
L434[11:40:00] <freacknate09> hmm
L435[11:40:02] <freacknate09> *test
L436[11:40:04] <freacknate09> hmm
L437[11:40:20] <freacknate09> How do I do that?
L438[11:40:24] <freacknate09> *me test
L439[11:40:30] <ben_mkiv> ./me text
L440[11:40:33] <freacknate09> ahh
L441[11:40:34] * freacknate09 test
L442[11:40:43] * freacknate09 has no clue how to use a tape drive
L443[11:42:01] <freacknate09> Is it possible to boot from a tape drive in OC with Computronics?
L444[11:42:54] <freacknate09> init.lua sounds like static
L445[11:43:10] <Izaya> Yeah
L446[11:43:19] <Izaya> you'll need to write a custom loader though
L447[11:43:25] <Izaya> And OpenOS won't work from a tape drive
L448[11:43:27] <freacknate09> oh
L449[11:43:37] <Izaya> Nor any other OS I'm aware of
L450[11:43:47] <freacknate09> So there is no pre-existing loader? hmm. Would that be a custom BIOS that I'd need to make?
L451[11:45:10] <freacknate09> Is there a computeronics wiki? It'd be nice if there was a way to learn how to program for it, other than examining the tape.lua program
L452[11:45:26] <dankcatlord> how can I fix too long without yielding?
L453[11:45:28] <dankcatlord> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/unisuyiyuj
L454[11:45:46] <Izaya> Well
L455[11:45:51] <Izaya> There is an existing loader
L456[11:45:58] <freacknate09> ooh, link?
L457[11:46:08] <Izaya> Uuuh
L458[11:46:21] <freacknate09> yeah?
L459[11:47:54] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1379-sks-enhanced-bios/&tab=comments#comment-6080
L460[11:48:00] <freacknate09> thanks
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L462[11:48:15] <Izaya> Don't mind me I'm phoneposting
L463[11:49:11] <Izaya> Uuuh
L464[11:49:14] <Izaya> I moved the repo
L465[11:49:21] <Izaya> It should be on git.shadowkat.net now
L466[11:50:55] <freacknate09> Where can I find Computronics documentation, other than in the OpenComputers booklet ingame
L467[11:51:25] <freacknate09> I want to do things like use the Sound Card
L468[11:51:28] <Izaya> wiki.vex.tty.sh probably
L469[11:51:38] <freacknate09> That didn't load for me, got an error
L470[11:51:39] <Izaya> Uhm
L471[11:51:44] * Izaya pages Vexatos
L472[11:51:59] <Izaya> Where is your wiki nowadays
L473[11:52:04] * ben_mkiv should play less minecraft. dreamed that my dog was in danger and was about to put him in a soul vial
L474[11:52:08] <ben_mkiv> but it didnt work in the dream ;(
L475[11:52:25] <fingercomp> freacknate09: https://wiki.vexatos.com/wiki:computronics
L476[11:52:30] <freacknate09> thanks
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L478[11:56:16] <Inari> RIP GitLab
L479[12:00:08] <freacknate09> :( Nothing in the wiki for the sound card
L480[12:00:19] <ben_mkiv> wait
L481[12:00:25] <ben_mkiv> someone wrote a real good overview about it
L482[12:00:30] <freacknate09> ok
L483[12:00:39] <ben_mkiv> gonna see if i find it in my bookmark mess
L484[12:00:41] <freacknate09> ok
L485[12:00:43] <fingercomp> https://gist.github.com/Fingercomp/0773bb0714296c0cb00d70a696d39bb3
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L487[12:01:02] <ben_mkiv> yea, thats what i meant :D
L488[12:01:08] <ben_mkiv> good job on that fingercomp^
L489[12:01:15] <freacknate09> gamax92: I've seen some of your Computronics videos using the soundcard, do you have the code available?
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L491[12:01:36] <gamax92> freacknate09: ehhhhhhhhhhh
L492[12:04:37] <AmandaC> Inari: why RIP GitLab?
L493[12:04:49] <Inari> It 503
L494[12:05:07] <Inari> At least for me
L495[12:05:15] <Inari> Maybe just the particular server it points me at
L496[12:05:15] <Inari> :P
L497[12:05:48] <freacknate09> I rather like this MineCode IDE
L498[12:08:16] <freacknate09> For some reason, I cant Shift+Ins text into OpenOS
L499[12:09:40] <Joco223> MineCode IDE?
L500[12:09:46] <freacknate09> From MineOS
L501[12:10:02] <Joco223> Oh ok
L502[12:11:22] <Joco223> Im fine with openos for now
L503[12:11:36] <Joco223> I might make my own version of edit
L504[12:11:52] <freacknate09> I am thinking about making a proper IDE, but that needs a GUI OS
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L506[12:13:58] <Joco223> With highlighting
L507[12:14:06] <freacknate09> Anyone know why I am not able to paste into OpenOS?
L508[12:14:56] <Joco223> I just use Ins
L509[12:15:37] <freacknate09> doesnt work
L510[12:15:40] <freacknate09> I can't seem to paste
L511[12:15:50] <ben_mkiv> make a vim clone please
L512[12:15:56] <ben_mkiv> i keep doing "vi file" in openos
L513[12:16:42] <Skye> Izaya!
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L515[12:18:52] <freacknate09> Hmm, trying to install KittenOS, I get "Unrecoverable Error: computer halted".
L516[12:20:26] <freacknate09> oh
L517[12:20:37] <freacknate09> It didn't properly download
L518[12:27:25] <Skye> @20kdc?
L519[12:27:32] <freacknate09> Wow
L520[12:27:35] <freacknate09> No need to ping him
L521[12:27:40] <freacknate09> I already said I figured out my issue
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L523[12:37:14] <AmandaC> WEll, that explains why this story is jumping around the timeline so much, and why the epub is 600 pages long.
L524[12:37:39] <AmandaC> I messed up when turning the .png's into an epub
L525[12:40:08] <20kdc> freacknate09: I should note, uh, copying/pasting the KittenOS NEO installer directly will *probably* not work properly.
L526[12:40:37] <20kdc> To make it able to be loaded as a single file in all cases, it has to be 64k, and that means some tight compression.
L527[12:42:24] <beesnees2> is true preemptive multitasking possible in OC?
L528[12:42:31] <AmandaC> no
L529[12:42:33] <beesnees2> ...other than having two computers right next to each other
L530[12:42:44] <AmandaC> `while true do end` will never be interuptable
L531[12:43:07] <AmandaC> at least, not without the debug API, which is (partially) disabled to prevent sandbox escape
L532[12:43:11] <beesnees2> I guess you could always create your own VM that can do context switches, lol
L533[12:43:21] <beesnees2> but then you won't be writing lua
L534[12:49:49] <Skye> actually
L535[12:49:53] <Skye> if you do while true do
L536[12:50:01] <Skye> your computer will crash
L537[12:50:16] <Skye> you can catch the error
L538[12:50:22] <Skye> and just close the offending program
L539[12:50:31] <Skye> it's impossible for true preemptove multitasking
L540[12:50:49] <Skye> but you can get close?
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L542[12:52:17] <AmandaC> Skye: well, if you were doing anything like calling into an OS function or component, it could be tricked into fake preemptive, but if you were doing that with some other similar tight loop, you're stuck
L543[12:52:24] <beesnees2> just put coroutine.yield() on every other line of code
L544[12:52:35] <beesnees2> boom, preemptive multitasking
L545[12:52:46] <vifino> that's... not ideal.
L546[12:52:48] <Skye> AmandaC, but if you do a tight loop it will crash the program
L547[12:53:06] <AmandaC> Skye: only after ~5s
L548[12:53:17] <Skye> there's two crashes IIRC
L549[12:53:19] <AmandaC> Which isn't ideal for anything interactive
L550[12:53:20] <Skye> one crashes the program
L551[12:53:31] <Skye> the other one shuts down the computer
L552[12:54:55] <AmandaC> too long without yielding can also crash the computer if it's in an EEPROM/ other thing that dosn't catch the error and do something with it
L553[12:54:55] <vifino> still waiting for an LED matrix block, 32x32 leds per block would be nice.
L554[12:55:26] <vifino> or 16x16, you could draw a small seperator in the texture then.
L555[12:55:49] <vifino> actually, what resolution are the blocks...
L556[12:55:59] <vifino> i haven't played minecraft in ages.
L557[12:56:00] <AmandaC> 16x16px by default, IIRC
L558[12:56:08] <vifino> oof.
L559[12:56:21] <vifino> 16x16 matrix per block would be nice.
L560[12:56:23] <AmandaC> There's "HQ" ones with 32x32+ though
L561[12:56:35] <vifino> *shrug*
L562[12:56:49] <vifino> point is, leds. lots of them. without excessive peripherals.
L563[12:57:07] <beesnees2> OCGlasses could probably replicate that
L564[12:57:08] <beesnees2> idk
L565[12:57:33] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L566[12:57:34] <MichiBot> AmandaC: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L567[12:57:42] <vifino> doesn't that render to your minecraft window and not 3D?
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L569[12:58:24] <AmandaC> 3d printer + a series of tubes
L570[12:58:39] <vifino> no. :v
L571[12:58:42] <AmandaC> :P
L572[12:59:13] <Mimiru> Hmm I sense a new feature for OpenLights lmao
L573[12:59:22] <vifino> do it.
L574[12:59:23] <Forecaster> tubes?
L575[12:59:41] <AmandaC> Block placer, breaker, tubes from / to the 3d printer, redstone to trigger one/both
L576[13:00:03] <Mimiru> Lmao
L577[13:00:09] <Joco223> If i execute a program with os.execute and pass an argument like table[1] and i modify it there, will it be modified in tge parent program too?
L578[13:00:11] <AmandaC> It's a very redneck solution, but it'd "work"!
L579[13:00:18] <vifino> @Mimiru: Need to convince @20kdc to be silly and port my LED matrix controller (C) to the ZPU emulator we made and control something in game.
L580[13:00:27] <Mimiru> Anyone know VMWare Horizons well?
L581[13:00:32] <vifino> It'll be slow. But awesome.
L582[13:01:07] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L583[13:01:07] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a ball of gnomes. 8 health gained!
L584[13:01:16] <Inari> AmandaC: Good news, i smell like lewdness now
L585[13:01:27] <AmandaC> D:
L586[13:01:42] <Mimiru> O_o
L587[13:01:46] <Inari> I know you don't like water, but no reason to go "D:" just cause I took a bath
L588[13:01:56] <vifino> Inari: no need to inform people about the indecent acts you do with your brother.
L589[13:02:20] <Inari> vifino: But I didn't :f
L590[13:02:22] <Mimiru> ....
L591[13:02:37] <Inari> You all have such short term memory!
L592[13:02:39] <Inari> [17:43:06] <+MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny bath salts that make you smell like lewdness all day long! (10%)
L593[13:02:45] <Joco223> Does anyone know?
L594[13:03:10] <Inari> @Joco22 I doubt it, but you can easily test it :D#
L595[13:03:43] <Joco223> Just wondering, i am working on some other stuff now :b
L596[13:04:13] <Skye> @Joco223, probably
L597[13:04:27] <Skye> tables are rarely copied
L598[13:04:29] <AmandaC> @Joco223 I'd assume it's duplicated, but payonel can confirm/deny
L599[13:04:40] <Inari> %pet @Mimiru
L600[13:04:41] * MichiBot pets @Mimiru with prickleboar meat. 7 health gained!
L601[13:04:42] <Inari> It's okay :P
L602[13:04:53] <Skye> AmandaC, why would it be though?
L603[13:05:36] <AmandaC> Skye: unexpected side-effects would be why, I'd think
L604[13:06:26] <Forecaster> ugh
L605[13:06:26] <Skye> actually
L606[13:06:29] <Skye> it might just crash
L607[13:06:33] <Skye> because it expects a string
L608[13:06:35] <Forecaster> why are there no up to date tools for inverting youtube playlist
L609[13:06:38] <Forecaster> why are there no up to date tools for inverting youtube playlists [Edited]
L610[13:06:39] <Skye> not a table
L611[13:06:47] <Forecaster> also why do people put up playlists that are backwards
L612[13:06:49] <Forecaster> :|
L613[13:06:54] <Skye> the shell will try to parse the table as a string
L614[13:06:55] <Skye> and just crash
L615[13:07:30] <Inari> I was under the impression that os.execue does bassically the same as running it from shell xD
L616[13:07:39] <AmandaC> @Forecaster there shouldn't be any changes nessary, I think YouTube is still using the XML API they first introduced like 6+ years ago
L617[13:08:51] <Inari> payonel: The heck is that for :D https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/boot/02_os.lua#L9
L618[13:12:29] <Forecaster> no, some people are just terrible at setting the playlist sorting correctly
L619[13:12:32] <payonel> Inari: oh that's been there for AGES
L620[13:12:42] <payonel> kinda weird, imo
L621[13:12:47] <Inari> Yeah
L622[13:12:50] <payonel> i'll remove it :) i DOUBT anyone is expecting that
L623[13:13:29] <payonel> Skye: what may/may not be copied? verify what?
L624[13:13:30] <Inari> https://xkcd.com/1172/
L625[13:13:31] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Workflow Posted on: 2/11/2013
L626[13:13:32] * Inari coughs
L627[13:13:53] <Inari> I think the question was "[20:00:08] <@@Joco223> If i execute a program with os.execute and pass an argument like table[1] and i modify it there, will it be modified in tge parent program too?"
L628[13:14:10] <Inari> But as far as I can see os.execute just runs a shell command or something
L629[13:14:14] <payonel> freacknate10: what do you want to know about devfs?
L630[13:14:55] <payonel> freacknate10: the openos shell, in-depth, is ... complex to say the least. it is partly the /lib/*sh.lua and /lib/*text.lua
L631[13:16:27] <payonel> @status @Joco223
L632[13:16:27] <Discord> Joco223 is currently OFFLINE
L633[13:16:50] <payonel> people should treat os.execute (and shell.execute) like running textual commands on your shell
L634[13:16:57] <payonel> Inari, Skye ^
L635[13:18:09] <Skye> yes
L636[13:19:02] <payonel> and it must be a string, and thus is immutable
L637[13:19:09] <freacknate10> payonel: I was wondering how devfs got into base OpenOS, as I knew it was a seperate program someone made before
L638[13:19:24] <payonel> freacknate10: i'm the openos dev, and i made devfs
L639[13:19:29] <payonel> if someone else made it also, i was unaware
L640[13:19:36] <freacknate10> oh, ok. I knowny
L641[13:19:43] <payonel> knowny?
L642[13:19:46] <freacknate10> i know you made openos
L643[13:20:08] <payonel> ah. yeah my point was more that .... i put devfs in
L644[13:20:12] <freacknate10> I hit enter on accident, meant to say something else lol
L645[13:20:18] <payonel> yeah :)
L646[13:20:38] <freacknate10> maybe I should quit sniffing solder fumes... lol
L647[13:20:50] <gamax92> openos
L648[13:21:57] <freacknate10> no u
L649[13:22:43] <payonel> Inari: anyways, the os.execute param must be string or nil, and thus "copied" [really, it is passed by ref, but immutable]
L650[13:23:30] <gamax92> openos
L651[13:23:37] <gamax92> Hey payonel how are you
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L653[13:24:45] <beesnees2> vifino: OCglasses can render 3D stuff in the world, as well as 2D stuff on your HUD
L654[13:24:59] <beesnees2> I've been told this is the version to go with https://github.com/StarChasers/OCGlasses
L655[13:25:13] <beesnees2> it can load .obj 3D models
L656[13:25:34] <beesnees2> which I was doing manually in the original OCglasses
L657[13:25:54] <beesnees2> by running the draw triangle function thousands of times
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L659[13:28:52] <Forecaster> http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/2018/08/17/1783-nice-hat/
L660[13:28:54] <Forecaster> The hat.
L661[13:28:59] <Kleadron> hat
L662[13:29:08] <Kleadron> ?
L663[13:30:34] <freacknate09> Hat
L664[13:31:06] <AmandaC> %choose a or b
L665[13:31:06] <MichiBot> AmandaC: a
L666[13:37:41] <Kleadron> fast bot http://tinyurl.com/ybb9wct3
L667[13:39:04] <AmandaC> MichiBot likes to anticipate her users demands
L668[13:44:51] <freacknate09> $choose A or Q
L669[13:44:58] <freacknate09> hmm
L670[13:45:06] <Forecaster> that is not the command character
L671[13:45:06] <Kleadron> its % not $
L672[13:45:08] <freacknate09> %choose A or QZ
L673[13:45:08] <MichiBot> freacknate09: QZ
L674[13:45:10] <freacknate09> I saw
L675[13:45:25] <freacknate09> Michi takes 1 second to respond to %choose
L676[13:45:32] <freacknate09> %choose help
L677[13:45:32] <MichiBot> freacknate09: help
L678[13:45:35] <freacknate09> %help
L679[13:45:35] <MichiBot> freacknate09: Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L680[13:46:08] <freacknate09> %js end
L681[13:46:11] <MichiBot> ReferenceError: "end" is not defined in <eval> at line number 1
L682[13:46:21] <freacknate09> lol
L683[13:46:24] <Forecaster> %loot
L684[13:46:24] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic army of plastic Kodos! (25%)
L685[13:46:30] <freacknate09> %rainbow Loot is the worst! lol
L686[13:46:31] <MichiBot> freacknate09: Loot is the worst! lol
L687[13:46:32] <freacknate09> %loot
L688[13:46:33] <MichiBot> freacknate09: You get a loot box! It contains a geode.
L689[13:46:36] <freacknate09> %loot
L690[13:46:37] <MichiBot> freacknate09: You get a loot box! It contains a talking knife.
L691[13:46:43] <AmandaC> %bap freacknate09
L692[13:46:44] <freacknate09> A talking knife! Nice!
L693[13:46:44] * MichiBot baps freacknate09 with super super good fast screen drawing script
L694[13:46:53] <freacknate09> %gap AmandaC
L695[13:46:56] <freacknate09> wow
L696[13:47:01] <freacknate09> %bap AmandaC
L697[13:47:01] * MichiBot baps AmandaC with the inertial API
L698[13:47:05] <freacknate09> Nice!
L699[13:47:13] <AmandaC> go to #Michibot to play with her without spamming the channel
L700[13:47:36] <freacknate09> #Michibot exists? A different OC or in the Discord?
L701[13:48:00] <AmandaC> in IRC
L702[13:48:03] <AmandaC> /join #MichiBot
L703[13:48:16] <freacknate09> ahh, ok. and I meant different IRC instead of different OC lol
L704[13:50:28] <Forecaster> >;
L705[13:51:29] <freacknate09> %fling AmandaC
L706[13:51:29] * MichiBot flings oral cigarettes in a random direction. It hits AmandaC on the heel. They take 11 damage.
L707[13:51:39] <freacknate09> hmm, oral cigarettes
L708[13:57:21] <payonel> gamax92: i'm doing well :)
L709[13:58:02] <freacknate09> Michibot is fun
L710[13:58:18] <Joco223> How do i do os.execute so it runs a program on a new thread?
L711[14:00:14] <payonel> @Joco223 why do you want to use os.execute?
L712[14:00:23] <payonel> that is for shell commands
L713[14:00:32] <payonel> you want to run a shell command in a thread?
L714[14:05:31] <Joco223> Should i use shell.execute?
L715[14:05:58] <Joco223> Does that run the program on another thread
L716[14:06:00] <Joco223> ?
L717[14:06:04] <beesnees2> no, that will block
L718[14:08:03] <beesnees2> @Joco223 there's no preemptive multitasking on opencomputers
L719[14:08:17] <beesnees2> if you want two threads of executions running at once, coroutines
L720[14:08:39] <payonel> beesnees2: yes, and openos has a thread library to simplify that
L721[14:09:01] <freacknate09> Well, I just spent way too long playing with MichiBot
L722[14:09:02] <freacknate09> %loot
L723[14:09:03] <MichiBot> freacknate09: You get a loot box! It contains a half-eaten fortune cookie.
L724[14:09:05] <payonel> i wasn't concerned so much with the expectations of concurrency, but rather the typical interactive behavior of a "shell" command
L725[14:09:14] <Joco223> Because i am executing other .lua programs from a main one, i first found that so i stayed with it
L726[14:09:25] <beesnees2> yeah, threads are just coroutines under the hood
L727[14:09:50] <payonel> @Joco223, but why do you need it to be "threaded"? and what are you expecting the "threading" to do for you? as beesnees2 pointed out, lua simply does not have preemptive multitasking
L728[14:09:50] <Joco223> I want to execute another .lua program and let it run in another thread so it doesnt block the program i called it from
L729[14:10:08] <freacknate09> Hey, real quick, can a bot OP remove my item "lel"?
L730[14:10:12] <payonel> @Joco223 that isnt possible is oc, let alone lua
L731[14:10:34] <payonel> @Joco223, you CAN have cooperative threading though
L732[14:10:52] <beesnees2> yeah
L733[14:11:08] <payonel> @Joco223, if the other lua script, or function, you run has yields, event.pulls, computer.pullSignal, etc ... then yes, it won't block
L734[14:11:10] <Joco223> What would be the best way to do it?
L735[14:11:11] <beesnees2> calling os.sleep() in the sub process will return control to the parent thread
L736[14:11:17] <payonel> and that too
L737[14:11:21] <beesnees2> do that every once in a while
L738[14:11:35] <freacknate09> Is it possible to have TSR programs in OpenOS?
L739[14:12:00] <payonel> @Joco223: but if the threaded function calls you are making need SHELL-LIKE interactive behavior (such as stdout/stdin writing/reading) you'll have a wonky time
L740[14:13:18] <payonel> freacknate09: sure, with coroutines or threads. piping essentially does that, so does os.popen
L741[14:13:26] <freacknate09> ok
L742[14:13:49] <payonel> the /lib/pipe.lua library handles it, which the /lib/thread.lua leverages
L743[14:13:59] <payonel> you wont get screen refreshing for free
L744[14:14:16] <freacknate09> Cool! What does the plan9k os do? I don't think it works, last time I used it
L745[14:14:18] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L746[14:14:18] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with an inert API. 15 health gained!
L747[14:14:32] <beesnees2> I used it and it works
L748[14:14:34] <beesnees2> :P
L749[14:14:37] <freacknate09> huh
L750[14:14:45] <payonel> freacknate09: at this point, openos' pipe library is more ... user friendly and extensible than plan9k's
L751[14:14:52] <payonel> and honestly, just as powerful
L752[14:14:59] <freacknate09> ok, I just figured I'd try plan9k
L753[14:15:01] <payonel> if not more, i haven't dug super deep into it's implementation
L754[14:15:19] <payonel> but openos' pipe library creates what i might call coroutine stack sandboxes
L755[14:15:40] <payonel> it is possible to have entire ecosystems running in separate stacks, suspended and resumed
L756[14:15:45] <payonel> that's how the thread library works
L757[14:16:00] <payonel> the thread library is actually pretty small on its own, it leverages /lib/pipe.lua for the stack-switching
L758[14:16:22] <freacknate09> What is plan9k intended to be?
L759[14:16:22] <payonel> anyways, if you have a program you want to suspend, run it in an openos thread
L760[14:17:06] <beesnees2> I couldn't find a whole lot of differences between openOS and plan9k
L761[14:17:17] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot Inari
L762[14:17:17] * MichiBot accepts Inari and adds it to her inventory
L763[14:17:26] <Inari> D:
L764[14:17:27] <Inari> Hey
L765[14:17:31] <payonel> plan9k was inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs i think
L766[14:17:35] <beesnees2> I imagine the only major difference at this point is that plan9k looks more like plan9
L767[14:17:38] <freacknate09> ok
L768[14:17:41] <payonel> it was built on a new arch design for the kernel
L769[14:17:43] <beesnees2> in terms of naming
L770[14:17:45] <freacknate09> ahh
L771[14:17:45] <beesnees2> and stuff like that
L772[14:17:48] <AmandaC> Inari: it's the only way I'll ever get pettings from you here!
L773[14:18:04] <payonel> openos has some limitations, the two big ones are 1. memory, and 2. user api
L774[14:18:20] <payonel> (1) memory because i have to keep it micro. it must continue to operate on minimal hardware
L775[14:18:23] <Kodos> Without knowing what the child program is or does I would say write it into the main one as a function
L776[14:18:30] <beesnees2> oh, and plan9k had more "everything is a file" unixy kind of stuff
L777[14:18:32] * freacknate09 pets AmandaC
L778[14:18:33] <freacknate09> ahh
L779[14:18:35] <beesnees2> no procfs in openOS
L780[14:18:37] <payonel> (2) user api -- i have to honor existing api, even when that forces some weird hacks
L781[14:18:42] <AmandaC> %bap freacknate09
L782[14:18:43] * MichiBot baps freacknate09 with methanol tea
L783[14:18:48] <AmandaC> You're not Inari! D:
L784[14:18:51] <freacknate09> I know
L785[14:18:56] <freacknate09> %bap AmandaC
L786[14:18:56] * MichiBot baps AmandaC with quantum decay
L787[14:19:02] * freacknate09 dies
L788[14:19:14] <payonel> beesnees2: yes that. anything like that i would add in devfs
L789[14:19:24] * freacknate09 comes back to life, from the power of payonel
L790[14:19:30] <Joco223> Hmmm ok
L791[14:19:49] <Joco223> I will just run the child program as a function
L792[14:19:55] <Joco223> That should work
L793[14:19:58] <payonel> @Joco223 anyways if you want threading, use threads
L794[14:20:25] <payonel> @Joco223:
L795[14:20:25] <payonel> <+payonel> openos has some limitations, the two big ones are 1. memory, and 2. user api
L796[14:20:27] <payonel> derp
L797[14:20:40] <payonel> @Joco223: https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:thread
L798[14:20:52] <freacknate09> payonel: You said it is possible to make a new shell for OpenOS, right?
L799[14:21:14] <payonel> freacknate09: yep
L800[14:21:39] <freacknate09> ok, I am interested in screwing around with customizing OpenOS
L801[14:21:55] <payonel> freacknate09: because of openos' single user, single start up style ... it isn't quite like a real linux configuration to swap out shells
L802[14:22:03] <payonel> but DEFINITELY, you can swap your shell
L803[14:22:14] <Joco223> Yes, i do understand
L804[14:22:36] <Joco223> I just want two programs running along side each other
L805[14:22:52] <freacknate09> ahh, ok. Is it possible to add multi-user to openos, or would it be so complex to where I'd be better off making a new OS from the ground up?
L806[14:22:55] <Joco223> Which is what threads are for, right?
L807[14:23:30] <freacknate09> Hah! I borked plan9k. Mostly by deleting pipes, but meh
L808[14:23:43] <payonel> @Joco223: yes, threads can do that. it gets confusing (to your user) if both programs need stdin/stdout though
L809[14:24:37] <payonel> freacknate09: multi-user can be added on. others have done it. 1. there is no perms in oc filesystem component, so that would be a kernel level thing you'd add, you'd need some type of persistent metadata to store that as well
L810[14:25:03] <Joco223> Nah, they don't
L811[14:25:10] <freacknate09> ahh, ok
L812[14:25:14] <payonel> 2. $HOME is used plenty in the system. It never assumes /home is $HOME, it only sets that in /etc/profile
L813[14:26:06] <payonel> 3. boot/02_os.lua is where i set $SHELL
L814[14:26:11] <payonel> yeah, that's a weird place :)
L815[14:26:14] <payonel> but, i have my reasons
L816[14:26:21] <payonel> [ namely, memory [ram] ]
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L818[14:26:27] <freacknate09> ok
L819[14:26:44] <payonel> technically you can set it anywhere, it is just that init.lua runs the shell
L820[14:26:55] <payonel> so $SHELL needs to be ready by the end of boot
L821[14:27:07] <payonel> unless you write a kernel layer that separates user space
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L823[14:27:11] <payonel> and that kernel runtime is not a shell
L824[14:27:23] <payonel> and then when a user is loaded, it runs/loads the user's shell
L825[14:27:31] <payonel> but openos doesn't need all of that, so it doesn't :)
L826[14:28:00] <freacknate09> ahh, ok. I may try and just write an OS from the ground up with multi-user and better multi-tasking, and hopefully a GUI
L827[14:28:01] <payonel> in other words, your init.lua would execute the kernel, and not a shell
L828[14:28:08] <freacknate09> ahh
L829[14:28:14] <payonel> freacknate09: of course, feel free to use any/all openos libs
L830[14:28:22] <payonel> and feel free to ask for clarification of things that are not documented
L831[14:28:33] <freacknate09> cool, thank you :)
L832[14:29:56] <freacknate09> Maybe I will use the Pipes kernel to save me time
L833[14:31:28] <freacknate09> payonel: did you make Plan9k also?
L834[14:31:35] <payonel> i did not, magik did
L835[14:31:56] <freacknate09> ahh, is magik on here?
L836[14:32:02] <payonel> currently no
L837[14:32:17] <freacknate09> oh, ok. Offline or simple not on the IRC at all?
L838[14:32:44] <payonel> https://github.com/magik6k
L839[14:32:52] <payonel> !seen magik6k
L840[14:32:55] <payonel> @seen magik6k
L841[14:33:01] * payonel shrugs
L842[14:33:03] <freacknate09> %seen magik6k
L843[14:33:03] <MichiBot> magik6k was last seen 434d 3h 43m 25s ago. payonel, replied about /opt / /ib
L844[14:33:06] <freacknate09> dang
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L847[14:35:16] <payonel> plan9k does some cool stuff to simplify the kernel code. i really enjoy reading through it
L848[14:35:35] <payonel> but, it has performance and memory cost to do pretty much any of the clever stuff :)
L849[14:36:02] <freacknate09> ahh
L850[14:36:14] * freacknate09 looks shocked
L851[14:36:49] <Joco223> I got it working, thanks guys
L852[14:37:00] <payonel> @Joco223: awesome! glad we could help
L853[14:37:52] <Joco223> I will show off what i used it for and what i made when i get home and have normal internet so i can upload a video
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L857[15:04:26] <freacknate09> hmm
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L860[15:08:57] <Wuerfel_21> this is what i call progress http://tinyurl.com/y7pkt9hw
L861[15:09:20] <freacknate09> %choose Underground or Aboveground
L862[15:09:21] <MichiBot> freacknate09: Aboveground
L863[15:09:23] <freacknate09> ok
L864[15:10:26] <beesnees2> no
L865[15:10:27] <beesnees2> underwater
L866[15:10:48] <beesnees2> always make your first base in any world be an underwater base
L867[15:11:03] <Wuerfel_21> i agree
L868[15:11:19] <freacknate09> I do not like underwater bases lol
L869[15:11:47] <Wuerfel_21> no creepers. always enough food if you cave a mod that lets you make squid sushi
L870[15:11:53] <Wuerfel_21> no creepers. always enough food if you have a mod that lets you make squid sushi [Edited]
L871[15:11:58] <beesnees2> am I a hipster for suffering through building many underwater bases, long before any 1.13 snapshots ever arrived?
L872[15:12:32] <beesnees2> what version were sponges re-added
L873[15:12:51] <beesnees2> 1.8
L874[15:13:01] <beesnees2> feels so recent
L875[15:14:00] <beesnees2> mc 1.8 was 4 years ago wtf
L876[15:14:15] <freacknate09> odd, my journey map minimap is not working, it doesn't display the map, but will in the fullscreen map
L877[15:14:23] <freacknate09> 1.8 was that long ago? christ
L878[15:14:42] <beesnees2> and then you got beta 1.8
L879[15:14:49] <beesnees2> almost 7 years ago
L880[15:14:56] <freacknate09> christ
L881[15:15:29] <beesnees2> cave game tech demo
L882[15:15:35] <beesnees2> was fucking 9 years ago
L883[15:15:48] <freacknate09> wow, minecraft is _old_
L884[15:15:56] <beesnees2> it was also copyright striked by youtube for no reason
L885[15:16:09] <beesnees2> notch's channel has pretty much been nuked for US ip addresses
L886[15:16:15] <beesnees2> for no apparant reason
L887[15:16:33] <freacknate09> wow
L888[15:17:17] <beesnees2> all of his old videos are on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC158cTTizv5l7Csp7rfmCjA
L889[15:17:27] <beesnees2> report that channel for copyright infringement /s
L890[15:30:23] <Inari> Not Tonight is a post-Brexit management game xD
L891[15:32:54] * AmandaC places another base computer, edits it's name "Mining Site 7" -- I'm going to need a spreadsheet or something for these things...
L892[15:34:52] <beesnees2> who needs spreadsheets when you have scripting languages
L893[15:40:39] <AmandaC> If I code a tool for this it'll not be fun anymore
L894[15:41:05] <Toothless the Dragon> How does one get started in TIS
L895[15:41:15] <Toothless the Dragon> I can't find any examples
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L899[15:44:40] <beesnees2> aw, I just started putting together an OC glasses virtual screen
L900[15:44:51] <beesnees2> and addText3D
L901[15:44:55] <beesnees2> z-fights no matter what
L902[15:46:09] <beesnees2> well, it doesn't z-fight if it's set to always face the player
L903[15:46:22] <beesnees2> but I want it to be aligned with the wall
L904[15:46:25] <freacknate09> ouch
L905[15:46:36] <freacknate09> %loot
L906[15:46:37] <MichiBot> freacknate09: You get a loot box! It contains a knight who says ni.
L907[15:47:16] <beesnees2> idk if this can even be called z-fighting
L908[15:47:21] <beesnees2> since it's fighting with nothing
L909[15:51:18] <beesnees2> gonna try killing optifine
L910[15:55:46] <Inari> @Toothless_the_Dragon, read the manual and do the first tasks in the game? :D
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L913[16:08:39] <Inari> Petition to change send/sent/sent to send/sand/sund
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L917[16:29:52] <Z0idburg> Izaya, what do you think?
L918[17:01:07] <Inari> %fling @Z0idburg
L919[17:01:07] * MichiBot flings orbital submarine in a random direction. It hits @Z0idburg on the butt. They take 4 damage (2+2).
L920[17:01:08] * MichiBot Orbital submarine met a Pikachu and was shocked..
L921[17:02:34] <AmandaC> nooooo my orbital submarine! D:
L922[17:02:42] <Inari> https://twitter.com/ryzokuken/status/1030367978691260416
L923[17:02:43] <MichiBot> Fri Aug 17 03:17:24 CDT 2018 @ryzokuken: When a subway station is a better programmer than you are... <https://t.co/xkWTX4rblm&gt;
L924[17:22:36] <payonel> Inari: https://78.media.tumblr.com/9cd055754ecbd1f45b733222d282d76c/tumblr_nsrmcsC6lF1u3ihpao1_400.gif
L925[17:23:37] <payonel> Inari: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xw0jvjokxnohhiqifmpv.mp4
L926[17:24:12] <Inari> Haha, cool
L927[17:24:16] <Inari> And yeah, its getting hot again here
L928[17:25:40] <payonel> %weather germany
L929[17:25:43] <MichiBot> Current weather for Abbenseth, Germany Current Temp: 54.7°F/12.6°C Feels Like: 54.7°F/12.6°C Current Humidity: 98% Wind: From the SW 0 Mph/0.0 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L930[17:26:37] <payonel> but looks like high 20s all week
L931[17:26:47] <payonel> (for germany)
L932[17:26:51] * AmandaC checks Google: "sunny, 30°C"
L933[17:26:54] <Inari> Thats hot :P And some 30+
L934[17:27:00] <payonel> same here
L935[17:27:15] <payonel> my friends think i'm weird that i like the cold
L936[17:28:10] <AmandaC> Tomorrow 29°, scattered thunder storms
L937[17:28:40] <Mettaton_Fab> it was raining like an hour ago here
L938[17:28:48] <Inari> payonel: I love the cold
L939[17:28:56] <Mettaton_Fab> together with thunderstorm and lightning
L940[17:29:02] <Inari> Its easier to warm up than to cool down. Plus when it's cold you get so many nice things
L941[17:29:07] <Mettaton_Fab> caused the air to coll down lots
L942[17:29:10] <Inari> Snow, and drinking how tea, and the warm bed feels nicer
L943[17:29:12] <payonel> Inari: like hot cocoa!
L944[17:29:12] <Inari> And all
L945[17:29:17] <Inari> And that
L946[17:29:25] * payonel makes Inari some hot cocoa
L947[17:29:29] <AmandaC> Cold is nice, cuddle up with a blanket
L948[17:29:30] <Inari> D:
L949[17:29:33] <Mettaton_Fab> Summer is bad, winter is bad but less bad than summer
L950[17:29:35] <Inari> payonel: It's too hot for that!
L951[17:29:38] * payonel open a portal to a cold place, to enjoy the hot cocoa
L952[17:29:45] <Inari> Nah, winter is great
L953[17:29:54] <Mettaton_Fab> winter also has bad things
L954[17:30:17] <Mettaton_Fab> just look at the loads of snow that sometimes come down
L955[17:30:28] <Inari> But thats a good thing
L956[17:30:37] <Inari> Snow is pretty
L957[17:30:46] <Mettaton_Fab> snow is the best
L958[17:30:53] <Mettaton_Fab> but too much isnt a good thing
L959[17:31:47] <Mettaton_Fab> just like too much Nusspli is bad
L960[17:31:50] * payonel spawns langoliers, eaters of time, and moves us to winter
L961[17:34:12] <Mettaton_Fab> i still gotta fix this XB360 controller
L962[17:34:37] <Mettaton_Fab> cable is flaky directly behind the strain relief
L963[17:34:47] * AmandaC checks the various channel doors, looking for the door to Winter
L964[17:40:03] <Mettaton_Fab> good thing i have a long USB cable from a logitech wireless receiver for a wireless Keyboard/mouse combo
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L966[17:44:35] <freacknate09> Is there a SSH server for OpenOS? I pulled the SSH client from Plan9k
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L968[18:00:29] <beesnees2> I just want to ssh from the outside into minecraft into opencomputers
L969[18:00:41] <beesnees2> could probably hack something up but I don't need it very much
L970[18:00:44] <beesnees2> I can just edit files
L971[18:00:51] <freacknate09> wait, what?
L972[18:02:17] <beesnees2> edit files from the minecraft save*
L973[18:02:31] <beesnees2> using vim of course
L974[18:03:11] <freacknate09> Is there an SSH server for OpenOS?
L975[18:05:51] <beesnees2> freacknate09: found this https://github.com/OpenPrograms/payonel-Programs/tree/master/psh
L976[18:06:02] <freacknate09> Thanks
L977[18:06:11] <beesnees2> idk how well it works though
L978[18:06:24] <freacknate09> ok. I use wget to download, right?
L979[18:06:36] <freacknate09> payonel: How well does that psh program work?
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L982[18:15:37] <AmandaC> %tell Inari FUCK! I really wasn't ready for ep 11 still crying as the credits are done
L983[18:15:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L984[18:22:02] <AmandaC> freacknate09: that's not been optimised for newer openos yet, though payonel has been putting stuff in openos to make things like it reasonable to do
L985[18:23:42] <AmandaC> Izaya has something similar under his minitel umbrella I think, too
L986[18:24:32] <AmandaC> Anyway, off to emotionally recover from that ep
L987[18:25:53] <freacknate09> ok
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L989[18:32:37] <freacknate09> Is it possible, with the limited space on an EEPROM, to display rudimentary graphics and menus?
L990[18:36:22] <Mettaton_Fab> in theory? yes
L991[18:40:14] <freacknate09> ok
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L995[18:46:23] <AmandaC> %choose risk ep 12 or don't
L996[18:46:24] <MichiBot> AmandaC: risk ep 12
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L1047[19:33:01] <AmandaC> @mettaton_fab violet evergarden
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L1051[20:46:08] <beesnees2> huh, the z-fighting in OC Glasses 2 slowed down now that my FPS is a bit better
L1052[20:53:20] <beesnees2> also OCglasses really needs left-aligned and right-aligned 3D text
L1053[20:53:35] <beesnees2> center aligned isn't very useful
L1054[20:55:10] <beesnees2> ben_mkiv is here
L1055[20:57:23] <ben_mkiv> for world space?
L1056[20:59:04] <beesnees2> I think the pseudo z-fighting is due to optifine
L1057[20:59:18] <ben_mkiv> yes optifine + openglasses is buggy at this point ;(
L1058[20:59:29] <beesnees2> how buggy
L1059[20:59:31] <ben_mkiv> hadnt time to look into the issues yet
L1060[20:59:34] <beesnees2> is it just the flickering
L1061[20:59:43] <ben_mkiv> well several people reported problems, from not rendering to weird results
L1062[21:02:32] <beesnees2> also
L1063[21:02:34] <ben_mkiv> what text did you talk about before? Text2D or Text3D?
L1064[21:02:40] <beesnees2> text3D
L1065[21:02:48] <ben_mkiv> ok, will add it on the todo list
L1066[21:02:58] <beesnees2> doesn't matter if it's facing the player or mounted on a wall
L1067[21:03:31] <beesnees2> it's like it's z-fighting with a translucent version of itself
L1068[21:03:45] <beesnees2> so parts of the text disappear and reappear
L1069[21:08:52] <beesnees2> ben_mkiv: https://i.imgur.com/YzbraxG.png
L1070[21:08:58] <beesnees2> ^ with optifine
L1071[21:09:23] <beesnees2> the diamond on the left is rendering just fine
L1072[21:09:27] <beesnees2> just the text is fucked
L1073[21:18:32] <ben_mkiv> is it in the wall? or did you run the same script twice without flushing the widgets?
L1074[21:21:02] <beesnees2> it is not in the wall
L1075[21:21:15] <beesnees2> and it should have been cleared
L1076[21:22:04] <ben_mkiv> thats with or without optifine?
L1077[21:22:23] <beesnees2> with optifine
L1078[21:22:44] <beesnees2> lemme restart minecraft without optifine again and see what it does
L1079[21:22:47] <ben_mkiv> can you upload the script to pastebin or something?
L1080[21:22:54] <ben_mkiv> wait imma try it without if you give me the script
L1081[21:23:18] <ben_mkiv> if you dont have it local you can upload in openos with "pastebin put filename"
L1082[21:24:07] <beesnees2> I have it, I'm just cleaning it up a bit
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L1085[22:00:45] <ben_mkiv> well i've already tested it out
L1086[22:00:48] <ben_mkiv> its optifine related
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L1088[22:16:02] <beesnees2> I just got the best idea ever
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L1090[22:16:20] <beesnees2> make a visual representation of raw materials flowing into my AE system
L1091[22:16:29] <ben_mkiv> lol
L1092[22:16:30] <beesnees2> with the items flowing down
L1093[22:16:35] <beesnees2> fully animated
L1094[22:16:42] <ben_mkiv> i have a better idea
L1095[22:16:43] <beesnees2> make rivers of ingots and diamonds
L1096[22:16:54] <ben_mkiv> make a AE2 clone with AR HUD
L1097[22:16:59] <beesnees2> lol
L1098[22:17:07] <ben_mkiv> and autocrafting which utilizies exported recipes from crafttweaker
L1099[22:17:15] <ben_mkiv> if im bored someday i will go for that :>
L1100[22:17:20] <ben_mkiv> all the recipes \o/
L1101[22:17:41] <beesnees2> I saw on /r/feedthebeast a while back
L1102[22:17:47] <beesnees2> someone made a mod where you could place ingots in the world
L1103[22:18:08] <beesnees2> I want to be able to automate that and have huge vaults that are aesthetically stacked up to the ceiling
L1104[22:18:29] <beesnees2> just a HUGE pile of gold and then an even huger pile of iron
L1105[22:18:58] <beesnees2> also
L1106[22:19:03] <beesnees2> huge stores of liquid
L1107[22:19:09] <beesnees2> where the liquid is actual liquid
L1108[22:19:18] <beesnees2> so it's laggy as fuck and impractical because you have to pump it up
L1109[22:19:24] <ben_mkiv> xD
L1110[22:19:32] <beesnees2> I've done that before
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L1112[22:19:41] <beesnees2> I used the deep dark
L1113[22:19:45] <beesnees2> to store buildcraft fuel
L1114[22:19:52] <beesnees2> just dumped it on the floor of the deep dark
L1115[22:19:58] <beesnees2> and then pumped it back up as needed
L1116[22:20:45] <beesnees2> but shit
L1117[22:20:52] <beesnees2> I might actually do the flowing ingot idea
L1118[22:21:08] <ben_mkiv> but how to figure out whats actually going to the system?
L1119[22:21:13] <beesnees2> already solved that
L1120[22:21:19] <beesnees2> using transposer
L1121[22:21:21] <beesnees2> and AE2
L1122[22:21:24] <ben_mkiv> oh so with a buffer
L1123[22:22:01] <beesnees2> the buffer is fast enough to keep up with my quarry
L1124[22:22:09] <beesnees2> with just one transposer
L1125[22:22:19] <ben_mkiv> your quarry must be slow then :P
L1126[22:22:27] <beesnees2> so I can record everything that goes through the system with little overhead
L1127[22:23:48] <beesnees2> I could also record stone and dirt if I just added more transposers and computers
L1128[22:24:01] <beesnees2> this whole system is centralized on two servers
L1129[22:24:03] <beesnees2> so far
L1130[22:24:41] <beesnees2> I have an input monitor program that reports everything going from the ore processing compactmachine
L1131[22:24:50] <beesnees2> back to a server
L1132[22:24:56] <beesnees2> that records it and keeps a running average
L1133[22:25:19] <beesnees2> those running averages will be displayed by the AR glasses
L1134[22:25:23] <ben_mkiv> seems like you love automation as much as me xD
L1135[22:25:36] <beesnees2> lol what kind of pointless crap have you made
L1136[22:27:05] <ben_mkiv> idk where to start and end...
L1137[22:27:16] <ben_mkiv> biggest projects are probably semiautomated draconic infusion crafting
L1138[22:27:32] <ben_mkiv> and some trading station for materials
L1139[22:28:08] <beesnees2> not pointless enough
L1140[22:28:10] <beesnees2> :P
L1141[22:28:18] <ben_mkiv> chess with hologram projectors^^
L1142[22:28:36] <beesnees2> lol that's a fun one
L1143[22:29:00] <beesnees2> do continuous cellular automata with the hologram
L1144[22:32:03] <ben_mkiv> https://imgur.com/a/ujLzs
L1145[22:32:29] <ben_mkiv> made some small fixes after those screenshots, but never made new screenshots ;(
L1146[22:33:10] <ben_mkiv> so field was made of 4 touchscreens as the server had a screen size limit... and 9 projectors
L1147[22:34:32] <ben_mkiv> https://imgur.com/a/M5z9D another project wireless redstone with microcontrollers
L1148[22:35:05] <ben_mkiv> and the mekanism HUD which you may have seen already on curseforge https://i.imgur.com/A46H8f6.png
L1149[22:35:32] <beesnees2> now do it for reactorcraft instead
L1150[22:35:55] <beesnees2> rip reactorcraft ever being ported to 1.12 :(
L1151[22:36:10] <ben_mkiv> nuclearcraft is worth a try
L1152[22:36:40] <beesnees2> but it doesn't include the baggage of rotarycraft
L1153[22:37:11] <ben_mkiv> well, it doesnt look that cool
L1154[22:37:26] <ben_mkiv> but adds tons of machines for processing and different kind of reactors
L1155[22:37:53] <ben_mkiv> and its in active development and gets more reactortypes from what i know
L1156[22:38:04] <beesnees2> yeah I have it installed
L1157[22:38:07] <beesnees2> haven't really used it yet
L1158[22:38:16] <beesnees2> though I did start refining a small bit of uranium
L1159[22:38:27] <ben_mkiv> well OC support isnt already in yet, but they are working it out
L1160[22:42:36] <ben_mkiv> nvm, they released a new version with oc support 11 hours ago :)
L1161[23:25:44] <beesnees2> ben_mkiv: I'm late but here's a test case https://www.eternum.io/ipfs/QmS6dSane6n3nLC1FCGxeQv1kBewxMu82hXtmh3hLzokFA
L1162[23:28:48] <ben_mkiv> well im already sure its optifine related
L1163[23:29:03] <ben_mkiv> did a quick test with a simple script and had the same result as you
L1164[23:29:28] <ben_mkiv> but im looking forward to fix that, if i figure out how to debug it at all, asked on the optifine discord and waiting for some response :>
L1165[23:29:55] <beesnees2> lol when I take a screenshot it's not as bad https://i.imgur.com/exIu0xX.jpg
L1166[23:30:07] <beesnees2> maybe because the screenshots are 4x size
L1167[23:31:12] <ben_mkiv> oh let me test somethign, maybe its vsync related
L1168[23:32:20] <beesnees2> huh, if I disable vsync then only one Text3D is bugged out
L1169[23:35:17] <ben_mkiv> still glitched for me
L1170[23:37:09] * beesnees2 wants the ability to load bitmapped monospace fonts in OC glasses
L1171[23:37:50] <ben_mkiv> maybe in 1.13 as 1.13 adds truetype support
L1172[23:38:12] <beesnees2> or at least tamzen https://github.com/sunaku/tamzen-font
L1173[23:38:13] <ben_mkiv> so in theory any font should work then
L1174[23:41:05] <ben_mkiv> thanks, added it on the todo list
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