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<Kodos> Wow,
banned from a twitch channel because I joked about having clipped
something dumb the streamer said
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L8[00:58:56] <payonel> anyone building oc? i
see that we moved a bunch of deps to cil, which is awesome, but for
1.12 i can't get
appeng/appliedenergistics2/rv5-stable-11/appliedenergistics2-rv5-stable-11-api.jar
L9[00:58:59] <payonel> Mimiru: ^
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L17[01:04:40] <Ben> good
job kodos ?
<Ben> good
job kodos ?L18[01:05:00] <Ben> now
you know the true soul of their community
<Ben> now
you know the true soul of their communityL19[01:05:22] <Corded> * <Ben> was
banned in OC for a day :D
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L21[01:05:47] <Izaya> I wonder if I'm still
banned in #computercraft
L22[01:05:55] <Ben>
xD
<Ben>
xDL23[01:06:08] <Ben>
sometimes a ban sets you free
<Ben>
sometimes a ban sets you freeL24[01:06:18] *
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L30[02:24:44] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL31[02:24:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a tiny packet of rubber bands.
L32[02:30:08] *
Izaya frowns
L33[02:30:15] <Izaya> The world generator
works well until it crashes :|
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L36[02:35:02] <Forecaster>
you don't say
<Forecaster>
you don't sayL37[02:35:59] <Izaya> I really hope it's
not because of chisel mode in the world gen, it makes it much
nicer
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L39[02:54:50] <Izaya> dude when did parrots
appear in minecraft
L40[02:55:59] <Forecaster>
nobody knows
<Forecaster>
nobody knowsL41[02:56:09] <Izaya> huh
L42[02:56:17] <Forecaster>
ooh, someone should make a mod that adds creeper birds
<Forecaster>
ooh, someone should make a mod that adds creeper birdsL43[02:56:18] <Forecaster>
:D
<Forecaster>
:DL44[02:56:45] <Izaya> I'd install
that.
L45[02:57:18] <Forecaster>
they could literally dive-bomb you!
<Forecaster>
they could literally dive-bomb you!L46[02:58:05] <payonel> i solved my gradle
cache issue :)
L47[02:58:34] <Izaya> hrm yeah I think it's
the chisel integration
L48[02:59:14] <payonel> i changed the maven
"servers" to localhost, ran a local http server on my
filesystem, parsed the GET requests and downloaded the proper file
from my build server (where all deps are cached, but not in a nice
maven structure) ..
L49[02:59:24] <payonel> dynamically build
the dir the http requeset wanted, with the file...
L50[02:59:31] <payonel> bam, build gets all
deps and finishes
L51[02:59:47] <Forecaster>
woo
<Forecaster>
wooL52[02:59:57] <payonel> gradle is crap with
cache
L53[03:00:20] <Izaya> I'd poke the dev of
the world generator but No such nick or channel name
L54[03:00:21] <payonel> i read up on their
github -- with all the people asking for pre-pop cache options, or
copying caches
L55[03:00:23] <Izaya> and no GH repo
L56[03:00:29] <payonel> or heck, even the
option to export/import a cache :(
L57[03:00:54] <payonel> devs say 1 of 2
things 1) your use case is wrong, or 2) write a plugin
L58[03:01:19] <payonel> anyways, bed
L59[03:01:24] <payonel> i'll bug y'all
again tomorrow
L60[03:01:38] <Izaya> o/ sleep well
L61[03:02:34] <Forecaster>
ohno, not the bugs!
<Forecaster>
ohno, not the bugs!L62[03:21:54] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/jcm1Kad.png
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L87[04:36:19] <Forecaster>
%loot the corpses of the timed out irc users!
<Forecaster>
%loot the corpses of the timed out irc users!L88[04:36:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny dark web sites! (10%)
L89[04:36:25] <Forecaster>
ooh
<Forecaster>
oohL90[04:36:30] <Forecaster>
appropriate?
<Forecaster>
appropriate?L91[04:36:47] <Forecaster>
well, the grammar isn't, but hey
<Forecaster>
well, the grammar isn't, but heyL92[04:42:04] <Lizzian>
%loot
<Lizzian>
%lootL93[04:42:15] <Lizzian>
no?
<Lizzian>
no?L94[04:42:20] <Lizzian>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Lizzian>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L95[04:42:42] <Izaya> %loot
L96[04:42:50] <Izaya> guess not
L97[04:42:53] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a
loot box! It contains a Shiny floppy disk noises! (10%)
L98[04:51:42] <vifino> OH MY GOD
LIZZY
L99[04:51:57] <vifino> THANK YOU <3
<3 <3 <3 <3
L100[04:52:35] *
Izaya holds out an empty box labelled
"Context"
L101[04:54:17] <Lizzian> No
problem ?
<Lizzian> No
problem ?L102[04:54:49] <Lizzian> I
gifted him Neir Automata as a birthday gift
<Lizzian> I
gifted him Neir Automata as a birthday giftL103[04:55:03] <Izaya> ooooooo
L104[04:55:10] <Izaya> nice :D
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L111[05:24:11] <Lizzian>
Just pulled this cable out of a floor box http://tinyurl.com/yc4c8ngw<Lizzian> Just
pulled this cable out of a floor box http://tinyurl.com/yat75y9e
<Lizzian>
Just pulled this cable out of a floor box http://tinyurl.com/yc4c8ngw<Lizzian> Just
pulled this cable out of a floor box http://tinyurl.com/yat75y9eL112[05:25:14]
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L115[05:26:11] <Forecaster>
it's still good
<Forecaster>
it's still goodL116[05:26:20] <Forecaster>
you can barely see the copper
<Forecaster>
you can barely see the copperL117[05:27:20] <Izaya> d.. does it
work?
L118[05:28:34] <Lizzian>
Idk, but it's going in the bin
<Lizzian>
Idk, but it's going in the binL119[05:29:03] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
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L128[07:40:55] <tomdodd4598> Hola again - I think someone
mentioned that they’re using the OC API modding with eclipse - I’m
doing the same thing but it seems eclipse (possibly) is suppressing
OC’s ASM (and that of other mods) or at least causing it to
error.
<tomdodd4598> Hola again - I think someone
mentioned that they’re using the OC API modding with eclipse - I’m
doing the same thing but it seems eclipse (possibly) is suppressing
OC’s ASM (and that of other mods) or at least causing it to
error.L129[07:40:55] <tomdodd4598> If anyone is using eclipse,
could you let me know how you’re importing OC? I’ve got it as a
local jar so perhaps that’s the problem...
<tomdodd4598> If anyone is using eclipse,
could you let me know how you’re importing OC? I’ve got it as a
local jar so perhaps that’s the problem...L130[07:42:29] ⇦
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L132[07:48:36] <Forecaster>
I know Mimiru uses eclipse
<Forecaster>
I know Mimiru uses eclipseL133[07:51:06] <Vexatos> people still use
eclipse? .-.
L134[07:51:30] <Forecaster>
yep
<Forecaster>
yepL135[07:52:13] <Vexatos> IDEA is literally
the best IDE I have ever seen for any language why would anyone not
use it ,-,
L136[08:05:44] <Forecaster>
Mimiru doesn't like it :P
<Forecaster>
Mimiru doesn't like it :PL137[08:05:52] <Forecaster>
or is fine with eclipse
<Forecaster>
or is fine with eclipseL138[08:05:55] <Forecaster>
or something
<Forecaster>
or somethingL139[08:07:24] <Izaya> because I like
vim
L140[08:07:39] <Izaya> and if I wanted an
IDE I'd use emacs
L141[08:07:42] <Izaya> :D
L142[08:07:57] <tomdodd4598> Maybe I should try IDEA
then
<tomdodd4598> Maybe I should try IDEA
thenL143[08:08:28] <asie> That's a good
/idea/.
L144[08:08:48] <MGR>
'Examiner *defeated sigh* "I’ll just count this as a pass,
let’s move on before something else starts on fire.”' --- Quote
1/2
<MGR>
'Examiner *defeated sigh* "I’ll just count this as a pass,
let’s move on before something else starts on fire.”' --- Quote
1/2L145[08:10:07]
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L146[08:12:50] <polyzium> Hey guys, have
anyone been thinking on improving the VT100 library?
L147[08:14:11] <Forecaster>
you mean it's not perfect as it is?!
<Forecaster>
you mean it's not perfect as it is?!L148[08:14:44] <polyzium> After a bit of
experimenting I'm sure it isn't
L149[08:14:47] <polyzium> Sad but
true
L150[08:14:56] *
Izaya nods
L151[08:15:23] <polyzium> I talked about
that last time with payonel, I demonstrated that via someone's
emm
L152[08:15:26] <polyzium> telnet
client
L153[08:15:36] <polyzium> And it was
writing to the GPU directly
L154[08:15:54] <Izaya> it has some
slightly bizarre differences to real terminal emulators
L155[08:16:44] <Izaya> I think the reverse
video bug was fixed but \o/
L156[08:17:08] <polyzium> Well at least it
should umm handle graphics codes (ECMA-48) correctly
L157[08:17:15] <polyzium> And yeah. the
reverse video bug
L158[08:17:24] <polyzium> I fixed that
myself but it still sucks...
L159[08:17:34] <polyzium> This time I
wrote my own server and client that uses term.write()
L160[08:18:26] <polyzium> Also are you the
person who made minitel and the VT100 lib in it?
L161[08:18:41] <Izaya> that's me
L162[08:18:57] <polyzium> I've never got
the lib to work
L163[08:19:07] <Izaya> huh
L164[08:19:19] <Izaya> admittedly I
haven't poked it in a while
L165[08:19:28] <polyzium> Tried both
require and dofile but no, it returns nil
L166[08:19:33] <polyzium> Maybe that's me,
lemme try agian
L167[08:19:33] <Izaya> uuuh
L168[08:19:39] <polyzium> again*
L169[08:19:42] <Izaya> you're not meant to
use it from inside OpenOS
L170[08:20:11] <Forecaster>
https://notalwaysright.com/youve-got-cook-bacon-bring-home-bacon/100355/
<Forecaster>
https://notalwaysright.com/youve-got-cook-bacon-bring-home-bacon/100355/L171[08:20:17] <Forecaster>
It *is* hard sometimes
<Forecaster>
It *is* hard sometimesL172[08:20:22] <Forecaster>
but that's life
<Forecaster>
but that's lifeL173[08:20:33] <Izaya> stuff inside the
Embedded/ dir in the repo is for use with devices without an
OS
L174[08:20:37] <Izaya> generally from
EEPROMs or similar
L175[08:20:49] <polyzium> So that's
why
L176[08:21:35] <polyzium> Still the
internal vt100 lib looks messy to me, the only thing I did is to
fix the reverse video bug lol
L177[08:22:08] <polyzium> And it doesn't
interprete backspace unlike plan9k
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L181[09:09:40] <Mimiru>
@tomdodd4598 https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.12.2/build.gradle#L79
<Mimiru>
@tomdodd4598 https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.12.2/build.gradle#L79L182[09:11:11] <Mimiru>
trying to just use the API and an oc jar might cause issues, but
using deobfCompile (where available 1.8+ I think) works best
<Mimiru>
trying to just use the API and an oc jar might cause issues, but
using deobfCompile (where available 1.8+ I think) works bestL183[09:11:15] <Mimiru> I
know it's in 1.10+
<Mimiru> I
know it's in 1.10+L184[09:22:03] <tomdodd4598> It isn't the building which
is the problem - once it's built and put into a pack, all is well,
but ASM will fail if running the client from eclipse.
<tomdodd4598> It isn't the building which
is the problem - once it's built and put into a pack, all is well,
but ASM will fail if running the client from eclipse.L185[09:29:06] <MGR>
"Frankly, I’m surprised the engineer didn’t just burst into
flames right there from the looks he was getting. " --- Quote
2/2
<MGR>
"Frankly, I’m surprised the engineer didn’t just burst into
flames right there from the looks he was getting. " --- Quote
2/2L186[09:37:54] <Mimiru> deobfCompile is
for importing into eclipse
L187[09:39:04] <Mimiru> My mods use a mix
of SimpleComponent and ManagedEnvironment with no issue using the
deobf compile line there, in eclipse
L188[09:39:55] <Mimiru> @tomdodd4598
L189[09:45:17] <Mimiru> Anyway, off to
work
L190[09:48:54] <Forecaster>
hey ho, hey ho
<Forecaster>
hey ho, hey hoL191[09:54:45] <tomdodd4598> Oh, I didn't know that. But
unfortuately, it's still erroring: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ikutusikul
<tomdodd4598> Oh, I didn't know that. But
unfortuately, it's still erroring: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ikutusikulL192[10:00:58] <tomdodd4598> I'm also having a similar
issue with GregTech CE's ASM if that helps - I don't think this is
an OC-only issue.
<tomdodd4598> I'm also having a similar
issue with GregTech CE's ASM if that helps - I don't think this is
an OC-only issue.L193[10:06:16]
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L195[10:55:19] <gamax92> "simple
languages" that are actually more complex because they result
in unreadable code
L196[11:02:47] *
Inari spread hand cream on AmandaC's pawpads
L197[11:03:56] <AmandaC> D:
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L203[11:31:44] <payonel> Izaya: not meant
to use what?
L204[11:32:09] <Izaya> My terminal
emulator for embedded devices
L205[11:32:23] <payonel> ah
L206[11:32:42] <Izaya> I mean, you *can*
with some work but the OpenOS one supports more control codes and
is faster so \o/
L207[11:32:54] <Izaya> Also, are you
pinged by 'OpenOS'?
L208[11:34:04] <payonel> i am
L209[11:34:12] <payonel> payo, payonel,
mayonel, openos, lua
L210[11:34:17] <payonel> probably some
others i forget atm
L211[11:34:18] <Izaya> o-oh
L212[11:34:27] <Izaya> My anti-ping
attempts have been foiled
L213[11:34:42] <payonel> ha :)
L214[11:34:53] <payonel> i dont run irc on
my phone or anything like that
L215[11:35:01] <payonel> so pings are
helpful for me
L216[11:35:11] <payonel> when i rejoin, i
scroll through the history looking for yellow highlights
L217[11:35:22] <Izaya> Oh that's
fair
L218[11:35:35] <Izaya> Weechat has a
script that puts pings in another buffer
L220[11:37:31] <payonel> )
L221[11:37:31] <Skye> minitel
L222[11:37:32] <Skye> minitel
L223[11:37:32] <Skye> minitel
L224[11:37:33] <Skye> minitel
L225[11:37:33] <Skye> minitel
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L227[11:37:38] <Skye> :^)
L228[11:37:38] <gamax92> !ban Skye
L229[11:37:40] <Izaya> >.>
L230[11:37:47] <Izaya> uhm
L231[11:38:04] <gamax92> no spamming
kthx
L232[11:38:06] <gamax92> !unban Skye
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L234[11:38:12] <Skye> ._.
L235[11:38:15] *
Izaya blinks
L236[11:38:18] <Skye> sorry
L237[11:38:44] <payonel> Izaya: i've
written this rather expressive bash function to get hexchat to
run
L238[11:39:02] <payonel> it works inside
and outside my work network, the same function
L239[11:39:50] <payonel> part of it
detects if i'm inside the restricted network and builds a tunnel,
using a ssh socket, and kicks off hexchat in a screen(tmux)
container
L240[11:40:07] <payonel> when hexchat
closes, it closes the ssh socket and exits the screen
container
L241[11:40:16] <Izaya> Hexchat in
tmux?
L242[11:40:22] <gamax92> yeah what?
L243[11:40:24] <payonel> whilst i'm
detached from the screen
L244[11:40:40] <payonel> so that i dont
have to keep a terminal open just for hexchat
L245[11:40:50] <payonel> i mean i always
have numerous terminals
L246[11:41:00] <payonel> but i dont like a
shell hanging just on a gui program
L247[11:41:08] <Izaya> Oh you do X11
forwarding via a tmux session
L248[11:41:15] <Izaya> Okay a little weird
but it makes sense
L249[11:41:18] <payonel> no, i tunnel the
port
L250[11:41:38] <payonel> i run hexchat
locally, i use a dynamic hosts setting for the user for the irc
server i hit
L251[11:42:25] <Izaya> Oh so the tunneling
for the port is in a tmux session
L252[11:42:31] <Izaya> Aight that makes
sense don't mind me
L253[11:42:37] <payonel> haha
L254[11:42:49] <Izaya> It's 0242 gimme a
break
L255[11:43:10] <payonel> well it's
convoluted, and all wrapped in a single function
L256[11:43:18] <payonel> i do it so i dont
have to care which network i'm in
L257[11:43:40] <Izaya> Convenient
L258[11:43:55] *
Izaya recently bothered to configure a tinc VPN for his laptop
again
L259[11:45:27] <Izaya> Oh payonel I think
you'd disappeared before I didit
L260[11:45:37] <Izaya> I went ahead and
implemented syslog
L261[11:46:39] <Izaya> Something tells me
you can't view webms from questionable file hosting sites
associated with imageboards though
L262[11:47:42] <payonel> haha, as long as
the content isn't questionable, i'm fine trying
L263[11:47:59] <Izaya> I mean, it *is*
games :p
L264[11:48:04] <payonel> oh that's totally
fine
L265[11:49:21] <Izaya> man I don't think I
have a webm of just syslog
L266[11:51:02] <Izaya> https://track9.mixtape.moe/zetyyf.webm oh well this
is cool too
L267[11:52:56] <payonel> Izaya: oh you've
been busy
L268[11:53:06] <Izaya> that I have
L269[11:53:23] <Izaya> I want to have a
v1.0 ready for BTM18
L270[11:55:17] <Vexatos>
spoilers!!!!
L271[11:55:18] <Inari> %loot
L272[11:55:18] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a paperclip, big one.
L273[11:55:24] <Izaya> anyway, as far as
syslog goes, I have an independent library and daemon, and the
daemon only softly depends on minitel
L274[11:55:31] <Vexatos> You don't
announec that you are releasing v1.0 before the convention
L275[11:55:36] <Vexatos> *cough julia
cough*
L276[11:55:39] <Izaya> ie if it's
installed you can forward events to other hosts
L277[11:55:46] <Vexatos> %loot
L278[11:55:47] <MichiBot> Vexatos: You get
a loot box! It contains a Magic Easy-Anti-Anime! (25%)
L279[11:55:52] <Izaya> Vexatos: I
plan to, doesn't mean I will
L280[11:55:54] <Vexatos> ew
L281[11:56:01] <Izaya> 'sides, hype
L282[11:56:07] <Vexatos> hype?
L283[11:56:13] <Izaya> yes
L284[11:56:18] <Izaya> I have a very lofty
hype target
L285[11:56:26] <Vexatos> well, see
L286[11:56:29] <Izaya> I intend to get at
least one person interested before the convention
L287[11:56:46] <Izaya> it's going to be a
struggle, but I'm going to try anyway
L288[11:56:55] <Vexatos> julia was pretty
obvious in intending to release version 0.7 during juliacon
L289[11:57:04] <Vexatos> but noone told me
version 1.0 would drop one day later
L290[11:57:21] <Izaya> kek
L291[11:57:40] <Vexatos> (1.0 is just 0.7
without deprecation warnings, so people use 0.7 to port from 0.6 to
1.0)
L292[11:57:56] <Inari> %inv add a
frappe
L293[11:57:57] *
MichiBot summons 'a frappe' and adds to her inventory. I could get
some good swings in with this.
L294[11:58:01] <Vexatos> %loot
L295[11:58:01] <MichiBot> Vexatos: You get
a loot box! It contains a tiny model shoe.
L296[11:58:04] <Vexatos> %loot
L297[11:58:04] <MichiBot> Vexatos: You get
a loot box! It contains a weed.
L298[11:58:05] <Vexatos> %loot
L299[11:58:05] <Izaya> payonel: while
we're at it, socket:read now has a bunch of different modes so you
can read by line or until a specific character
L300[11:58:08] <Vexatos> D:
L301[11:58:10] *
Izaya is happy with how this is turning out
L302[11:58:48] <payonel> Vexatos: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html
L303[12:00:59] <Vexatos> so?
L304[12:01:22] <Vexatos> Julia wasn't a
thing back then
L305[12:01:25] <Vexatos> :^)
L306[12:02:24] <payonel> this isn't about
julia specifically :)
L307[12:03:16] <Vexatos> it doesn't really
make sense though
L308[12:03:19] <payonel> anyways, people
at work know i like lua
L309[12:03:25] <Vexatos> like
L310[12:03:29] <Vexatos> His
arguments
L311[12:03:31] <payonel> and they once
asked me my thoughts on the language
L312[12:03:33] <Vexatos> well his one
argument
L313[12:03:47] <Izaya> >arrays start at
1
L314[12:03:51] <Vexatos> why a < i
<= b is better than a <= i <= b
L315[12:04:13] <payonel> and i said,
"well, there are some things i dont like about it, such as it
has 1-based arrays" -- so they like to joke with me about
using lua and jokek that i like 1-based arrays :)
L316[12:04:43] <payonel> so one of my
coworkers found that paper by dijkstra and linked it to me
L317[12:05:13] <Vexatos> it doesn't even
make sense
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L319[12:07:08] <Vexatos> payonel, he
literally prefers a over c only because of the example of empty
sets
L320[12:07:21] <Vexatos> like
L321[12:07:24] <Vexatos> pls
L322[12:07:37] *
payonel shakes head
L323[12:07:57] <payonel> this isn't the
entire argument against 1-based arrays. it is one point
L324[12:08:03] <Vexatos> but, like
L325[12:08:05] <payonel> and. written by
dijkstra, i mean .. seriousl y:)
L326[12:08:06] <Vexatos> it's hardly
one
L327[12:08:17] <Vexatos> and the rest of
the letter applies to both a and c so
L328[12:08:38] <Vexatos> I mean dijkstra
is also just one guy
L329[12:08:48] <Vexatos> payonel, at least
I can pronounce his name :^)
L330[12:08:49] <payonel> also, the only
two arguments 1-based fans have are 1) matrices and 2) "people
count things starting with 1". (1) is a narrow use case, is
extremely rare in software and (2) is NOT about indexing a set. we
argue that counting is not equivalent to indexing
L331[12:09:11] <payonel> Vexatos: there
are a lot of things i can't pronounce correctly :)
L332[12:09:24] <Vexatos> dutch is weird as
heck
L333[12:09:41] <Vexatos> it's one of the
few languages using certain sounds, but Germany is like one of the
two others
L334[12:09:50] <Vexatos> German*
L335[12:10:00] <Vexatos> German, Dutch and
Danish have a lot of sounds in common
L336[12:10:02] <Forecaster>
what if he's really several gnomes?!
<Forecaster>
what if he's really several gnomes?!L337[12:10:03] <Vexatos> weird,
right
L338[12:10:48] <Forecaster>
you can't pronounce "correctly" correctly without
"correctly"
<Forecaster>
you can't pronounce "correctly" correctly without
"correctly"L339[12:11:00] <Vexatos> payonel,
"basically all of applicable mathematics" is not that
narrow of a use case tbh
L340[12:11:11] <Vexatos> last time I
checked programs used mathematics
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L342[12:11:47] <Vexatos> 2 is all about
intuition, I don't think there actually is a convention for
indexing a set
L343[12:11:57] <Vexatos> but everyone I
know started at 1
L344[12:12:01] <Vexatos> starts*
L345[12:12:26] <Forecaster>
they do?!
<Forecaster>
they do?!L346[12:12:28] <Forecaster>
ohno
<Forecaster>
ohnoL347[12:12:49] <Vexatos> payonel, like,
there usually is an index 0 but it is not actually part of the
set
L348[12:13:00] <Vexatos> it's the initial
value given to the function
L349[12:13:03] <Vexatos> you feed it the
set after that
L350[12:13:21] <Vexatos> e.g. if you have
cU2080
L351[12:13:23] <Vexatos> err
L352[12:13:36] <Vexatos> c₀, c₁ etc
L353[12:13:43] <Vexatos> thanks unicode
input
L354[12:14:09] <Vexatos> also payonel, I
didn't know you like Lua, tell me more
L355[12:14:52] <payonel> Vexatos: have you
ever worked with equations in physics? with subscripts? e.g. vᵢ
starts where? v₀
L356[12:15:04] <payonel> and sums and
ranges, where does i always begin? 0?
L357[12:15:41] <payonel> that's indexing,
anyways. yeah, i love lua :)
L358[12:16:26] <AmandaC> \o/ found a 28+8
crashed ship!
L359[12:19:20] <gamax92> that ship seems
unbalenced, it has a 2 on one side
L360[12:24:43] <Izaya> AmandaC: a friend
found a 42+6 crashed ship at one point
L361[12:25:09] <Izaya> Was v early game so
they traded it for a 30-ish one that didn't need to be
repaired
L362[12:25:19] <AmandaC> heh
L363[12:25:28] <AmandaC> I'm going to just
repair this one, I think
L364[12:25:42] *
Izaya nods
L365[12:25:48] <AmandaC> I've got a
semi-stable supply of most of the materials I need for it
(Chromatic Metal, Ferrite )
L366[12:26:10] <Izaya> I found a planet
with activated indium
L367[12:26:19] <Izaya> It's like 5CM per
ore
L368[12:26:39] <AmandaC> Oh wow
L369[12:26:52] <AmandaC> I'll have to find
a site like that to set up a miner on
L370[12:28:14] <AmandaC> Also,
"Residual Goop" is somewhat worth keeping stockpiled, if
you just keep refining and refining and refining it you'll
eventually get nanites
L371[12:28:46] <AmandaC> It's like 5 steps
from the goop to nanites, but hey, free nanites (if you've got a
med/large refinery, at least )
L372[12:29:16] <AmandaC> And rusted metal
can be turned into ferrite (dust?)
L373[12:35:02] <Izaya> Aye
L374[12:36:23] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL375[12:36:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a set of assorted wires.
L376[12:37:22] <payonel> %loot
L377[12:37:22] <MichiBot> payonel: You get
a loot box! It contains a geode.
L378[12:37:26] <payonel> wooooo
L379[12:39:55] <Inari> %bap docker
L380[12:39:55] *
MichiBot baps docker with the jar of non-baryonic
matter
L381[12:44:18] <Vexatos> payonel, I mean I
am a chemist that's like 50% physics
L382[12:44:32] <Vexatos> and sums etc.
start at 0 basically hald the time
L383[12:44:35] <Vexatos> half
L384[12:45:23] <Vexatos> and, as I said,
with most equations, x₀ is basically a start value independent from
the set of actual data
L385[12:45:30] <Vexatos> you treat it
differently
L386[12:45:44] <Vexatos> it's really
confusing sometimes
L388[13:01:21] <Forecaster>
Bunny!
<Forecaster>
Bunny!L389[13:05:53] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L390[13:05:53] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with vanilla salt. 6 health
gained!
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L394[14:31:29] <Kodos>
Damn, Aretha wasn't as better as we thought
<Kodos>
Damn, Aretha wasn't as better as we thoughtL395[14:33:25] <Forecaster>
the grammar, it burns!
<Forecaster>
the grammar, it burns!L396[14:33:47] <Vexatos> the sentence made
no sense
L397[14:33:50] <Vexatos> then it made
sense
L398[14:33:53] <Vexatos> but it
doesn't
L399[14:34:02] <Vexatos> please delete
this statement
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L401[15:04:33] <Inari> @Kodos any new info
yet?
L402[15:26:29] <Wuerfel_21>
%inv add a broken devkitPro
<Wuerfel_21>
%inv add a broken devkitProL403[15:26:29] *
MichiBot summons 'a broken devkitPro' and adds to her inventory.
This seems very sturdy.
L405[15:27:50] <Forecaster>
uh
<Forecaster>
uhL407[15:33:41] <Wuerfel_21>
mmmhhh, NTFS permission glitches
<Wuerfel_21>
mmmhhh, NTFS permission glitchesL408[15:43:49] <Wuerfel_21>
mh, no takeown, no icacls and i can't remember the command for
nuking file attributes
<Wuerfel_21>
mh, no takeown, no icacls and i can't remember the command for
nuking file attributesL409[15:49:27] <Wuerfel_21>
so apparently, all the time, i was using the bash binary that came
with the version of devkitPro i installed before i reinstalled the
operating system and windows is too dumb to tell me that bash is
locking the directory
<Wuerfel_21>
so apparently, all the time, i was using the bash binary that came
with the version of devkitPro i installed before i reinstalled the
operating system and windows is too dumb to tell me that bash is
locking the directoryL410[15:49:59] <Forecaster>
hah
<Forecaster>
hahL411[15:50:47] ⇦
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L412[15:52:35] <Inari> @Wuerfel_21 why
would it be a joke?
L413[15:52:45] <Inari> An uninstaller
needs to uninstall it's own file too :P
L414[15:53:27] <Wuerfel_21>
but both the installer and uninstaller hung after the
creating/deleting uninstaller step
<Wuerfel_21>
but both the installer and uninstaller hung after the
creating/deleting uninstaller stepL415[15:53:46] <Inari> I see :p
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L417[15:54:14] *
Inari wants to play Exapunks
L418[15:54:33] <Inari> Also still hating
Docker
L419[15:54:34] <Inari> \o/
L420[15:56:32] <Wuerfel_21>
so i just deleted the entire directory and hope that reinstalling
it will result a) in my unix utils coming back b) being able to
compile some sweet powerpc binaries
<Wuerfel_21>
so i just deleted the entire directory and hope that reinstalling
it will result a) in my unix utils coming back b) being able to
compile some sweet powerpc binariesL421[15:56:44] <Kleadron>
`Remove folder: C:\windows\system32\`
<Kleadron>
`Remove folder: C:\windows\system32\`L422[15:58:12] <Wuerfel_21>
i deleted the system32 virus a long time ago, but it took the whole
OS with it!
<Wuerfel_21>
i deleted the system32 virus a long time ago, but it took the whole
OS with it!L423[15:59:02] <Wuerfel_21>
`Execute: "c:\devkitPro\msys2\usr\bin\bash.exe" --login
-c exit` this step seems very useful and important
<Wuerfel_21>
`Execute: "c:\devkitPro\msys2\usr\bin\bash.exe" --login
-c exit` this step seems very useful and importantL424[15:59:47] <Inari> Remove folder:
\EEPROM\bios
L425[16:00:02] <Inari> Guess it's an EPROM
though :P
L426[16:01:11] <Wuerfel_21>
that's why you have hardware write-protect on your firmware
<Wuerfel_21>
that's why you have hardware write-protect on your firmwareL427[16:09:18] <Wuerfel_21>
except you don't and corrupt the firmware on purpose the second the
warranty runs out
<Wuerfel_21>
except you don't and corrupt the firmware on purpose the second the
warranty runs outL428[16:11:08] <Forecaster>
you don't?!
<Forecaster>
you don't?!L429[16:11:25] <Forecaster>
well there goes my super awesome moneymaking scheme >:
<Forecaster>
well there goes my super awesome moneymaking scheme >:L431[16:20:56] <Wuerfel_21>
yiss
<Wuerfel_21>
yissL432[16:46:13] <Inari> Lewd
L433[16:51:13] <payonel> oh how i've
missed Inari's lewdness
L434[16:51:27] <Inari> moiPsh
L435[16:56:05] <asie> 2https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/tis-3d/files/2604302
L436[16:56:08] <asie> :thinking:
L437[16:56:10] <asie> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/tis-3d/files/2604302
*
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L439[17:22:04] <Izaya> Gooooooood morning
#oc
L440[17:22:42] <gamax92> Time is
frozen
L441[17:25:33] <Kleadron> i
like cold morning
<Kleadron> i
like cold morningL442[17:25:38] <Kleadron>
mornings*
<Kleadron>
mornings*L443[17:26:49] <Izaya> I like hot showers
on cold mornings
L444[17:27:02] <Izaya> Today has been
solidly pleasant
L445[17:28:00] <Wuerfel_21>
not for me. I just realized i have to crosscompile boost. And
crosscompiling vast amounts of code never works
<Wuerfel_21>
not for me. I just realized i have to crosscompile boost. And
crosscompiling vast amounts of code never worksL446[17:29:13] <Izaya> Better than
compiling it on an 800Mhz C3 :D
L447[17:29:33] <Izaya> Do that and you
have to wait 48 hours to get your errors
L448[17:30:41] <Wuerfel_21>
better than compiling it on the Wii... Does gcc even work with some
88 MB of total system memory
<Wuerfel_21>
better than compiling it on the Wii... Does gcc even work with some
88 MB of total system memoryL449[17:30:43] <Wuerfel_21>
better than compiling it on the Wii... Does gcc even work with some
88 MB of total system memory? [Edited]
<Wuerfel_21>
better than compiling it on the Wii... Does gcc even work with some
88 MB of total system memory? [Edited]L450[17:31:02] <freacknate09> The wii only had 88mb of
memory?
<freacknate09> The wii only had 88mb of
memory?L451[17:31:32] <Kleadron>
wow the wii sucks
<Kleadron>
wow the wii sucksL452[17:31:52] <freacknate09> I'm googling this,
dnag
<freacknate09> I'm googling this,
dnagL453[17:31:53] <freacknate09> danbg
<freacknate09> danbgL454[17:31:55] <freacknate09> jesus
<freacknate09> jesusL455[17:32:03] <CompanionCube> GCC
definitely works with 88M RAM
L456[17:32:05] <Vexatos> Izaya, but it's
midnight
L457[17:32:09] <freacknate09> That is the case, dang
<freacknate09> That is the case, dangL458[17:32:10] <Wuerfel_21>
well, there is 2 MB of embedded framebuffer and 2 banks of 512k
texture/palette cache
<Wuerfel_21>
well, there is 2 MB of embedded framebuffer and 2 banks of 512k
texture/palette cacheL459[17:32:14] <CompanionCube> shit
originated in the 80s yo
L460[17:32:31] <Vexatos> my bachelor
thesis is 8MB in size ,-,
L461[17:32:34] <Wuerfel_21>
and a couple kilowords of DSP memory i guess
<Wuerfel_21>
and a couple kilowords of DSP memory i guessL462[17:32:42] <freacknate09> and only 512mb of storage,
andg
<freacknate09> and only 512mb of storage,
andgL463[17:32:44] <freacknate09> jesus
<freacknate09> jesusL464[17:32:47] <Izaya> Hope you have lots
ofswap
L465[17:32:56] <freacknate09> I can NOT type today. I may
not try to program right now
<freacknate09> I can NOT type today. I may
not try to program right nowL466[17:33:20] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
>swap
L467[17:33:24] <CompanionCube> it's the
wii
L468[17:33:26] <freacknate09> The Wii makes me cry how
weak it is
<freacknate09> The Wii makes me cry how
weak it isL469[17:33:27] <CompanionCube> whatcha
gonna swap to?
L470[17:34:04] <Wuerfel_21>
^^ USB hard drive?
<Wuerfel_21>
^^ USB hard drive?L471[17:34:21] <CompanionCube> does the
Wii OS even support those?
L472[17:34:47] <Wuerfel_21>
it supports USB
<Wuerfel_21>
it supports USBL473[17:34:59] <freacknate09> It doesn't have a gig of
anything, jesus
<freacknate09> It doesn't have a gig of
anything, jesusL474[17:35:19] <CompanionCube> wii is
essentially gamecube 2.0
L475[17:35:58] <Wuerfel_21>
well, the coprocessor's OS supports it. then you can just implement
the filesystem stuffs on the powerpc side
<Wuerfel_21>
well, the coprocessor's OS supports it. then you can just implement
the filesystem stuffs on the powerpc sideL476[17:36:22] <freacknate09> Wait, the Wii has a
coprocessor and a powerpc chip? Or is that something else?
<freacknate09> Wait, the Wii has a
coprocessor and a powerpc chip? Or is that something else?L477[17:36:23] <CompanionCube> (side note:
does the Wii's OS even have the concept of swapping?)
L478[17:36:41] <Wuerfel_21>
the games run bare-metal on the powerpc
<Wuerfel_21>
the games run bare-metal on the powerpcL479[17:36:48] <freacknate09> Does the Wii's OS even have
the concept of OS?
<freacknate09> Does the Wii's OS even have
the concept of OS?L480[17:37:08] <Izaya> Does the Wii?
L481[17:37:11] <Wuerfel_21>
and a big-endian ARM coprocessor handles I/O
<Wuerfel_21>
and a big-endian ARM coprocessor handles I/OL482[17:37:12] <CompanionCube> feldim2425:
yes
L483[17:37:15] <Izaya> Or rather
L484[17:37:19] <Izaya> Does the Wii
even?
L485[17:39:10] <freacknate09> Does the Wii even Wii
<freacknate09> Does the Wii even WiiL486[17:40:44] <CompanionCube> yes
L487[17:42:17] <Wuerfel_21>
the coprocessor is intended to be "secure". which it
isn't. but it has some HW accelerated crypto stuff and sits
inbetween whatever shit (and some of the coding in those shovelware
games is definitly questionable) runs on the PPC and the NAND,
which is annoyingly fragile and impossible to restore without
knowing the unique key, which you obv. can only dump when the
system can boot, which requires a correctly signed & encrypted
boot chain. The
<Wuerfel_21>
the coprocessor is intended to be "secure". which it
isn't. but it has some HW accelerated crypto stuff and sits
inbetween whatever shit (and some of the coding in those shovelware
games is definitly questionable) runs on the PPC and the NAND,
which is annoyingly fragile and impossible to restore without
knowing the unique key, which you obv. can only dump when the
system can boot, which requires a correctly signed & encrypted
boot chain. TheL488[17:42:17] <Wuerfel_21>
amount of security is ridiculous, especially since none of it
actually works.
<Wuerfel_21>
amount of security is ridiculous, especially since none of it
actually works.L489[17:49:53] ⇦
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L491[18:07:08] <tomdodd4598> @Mimiru Was just talking with
a friend and he wonders if my problem is a mapping-related one?
Looks like the latest OC was built on Forge 2727, while I'm using
2742... so maybe that's the issue? I'll get 2727 myself to see if
it goes away.
<tomdodd4598> @Mimiru Was just talking with
a friend and he wonders if my problem is a mapping-related one?
Looks like the latest OC was built on Forge 2727, while I'm using
2742... so maybe that's the issue? I'll get 2727 myself to see if
it goes away.L492[18:08:01] ⇦
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L493[18:13:33] <Mimiru>
Shouldn’t matter... I’m on 2705
<Mimiru>
Shouldn’t matter... I’m on 2705L494[18:13:40] <Mimiru>
@tomdodd4598
<Mimiru>
@tomdodd4598L495[18:14:53] <tomdodd4598> I'll try 2705 then... maybe
something weird happened between than and the later versions
<tomdodd4598> I'll try 2705 then... maybe
something weird happened between than and the later versionsL496[18:24:15] <Vexatos> so
L497[18:24:21] <Vexatos> I just burnt a
DVD-R
L498[18:24:25] <Vexatos> wow
L499[18:29:55] <Lizzian>
that's so old school
<Lizzian>
that's so old schoolL500[18:30:42] <Vexatos> @Lizzian even
better
L501[18:30:49] <Vexatos> I burnt a 7.8MB
file
L502[18:30:53] <Vexatos> onto a 4.7GB
DVD-R
L503[18:31:02] <Lizzian>
wow
<Lizzian>
wowL504[18:31:03] <Vexatos> because that was
the only type I had laying around
L505[18:31:30] <Vexatos> they better
appreciate the purple hue on the thing when I hand it in
L506[18:31:35] <Lizzian>
should have written it to 6 floppies
<Lizzian>
should have written it to 6 floppiesL507[18:31:51] <Vexatos> they would
probably have had to accept that
L508[18:32:10] <Vexatos> it only mentioned
"electronic file storage device"
L509[18:39:19] <Z0idburg>
Izaya, I decided to go with the T530 which has the newer keyboard
but the old hotkeys and better, the old hinges
<Z0idburg>
Izaya, I decided to go with the T530 which has the newer keyboard
but the old hotkeys and better, the old hingesL510[18:39:30] <Z0idburg>
the hinges that are braced to the frame not the screen
<Z0idburg>
the hinges that are braced to the frame not the screenL511[18:39:36] <Z0idburg>
Lenovo ThinkPad T530 Laptop. NVIDIA 5400 500gb Hdd 5Gb Ram DVD i7
3520M 2.9ghz
<Z0idburg>
Lenovo ThinkPad T530 Laptop. NVIDIA 5400 500gb Hdd 5Gb Ram DVD i7
3520M 2.9ghzL512[18:39:42] <Z0idburg> I
have much more ram thatl fit it
<Z0idburg> I
have much more ram thatl fit itL513[18:39:55] <Z0idburg>
and of course discrete graphics
<Z0idburg>
and of course discrete graphicsL514[18:40:09] <Z0idburg>
itl make a great *nix dev machine once again
<Z0idburg>
itl make a great *nix dev machine once againL515[18:40:34] <Z0idburg>
coming from canada, but ontario so shouldn't take long
<Z0idburg>
coming from canada, but ontario so shouldn't take longL516[18:42:44] <Izaya> T430 is
respectable
L517[18:42:55] *
Vexatos glares at his own used T430
L518[18:43:15] <Vexatos> bless
second-hand
L519[18:45:05] <Wuerfel_21>
frick boost has a lot of header files
<Wuerfel_21>
frick boost has a lot of header filesL520[18:47:22] <Wuerfel_21>
why and how does anyone use this library? that'll be some pricey
amount of CI minutes
<Wuerfel_21>
why and how does anyone use this library? that'll be some pricey
amount of CI minutesL521[18:48:42] <Izaya> fun fact
L522[18:48:59] <Izaya> the i3 in my
desktop is about as powerful as the i5 2520m in my T420
L523[18:49:59] <Wuerfel_21>
i3 vs. i5 vs. i7 vs. i9 and the AMD equivalent is actually not that
big of a difference, as far as i can tell
<Wuerfel_21>
i3 vs. i5 vs. i7 vs. i9 and the AMD equivalent is actually not that
big of a difference, as far as i can tellL524[18:51:31] <Wuerfel_21>
i haven't looked into intel that much recently, but the only
differences between the ryzen 3 and ryzen 5 models (apart from
varying clockspeeds/core counts) seems to be hyperthreading.
<Wuerfel_21>
i haven't looked into intel that much recently, but the only
differences between the ryzen 3 and ryzen 5 models (apart from
varying clockspeeds/core counts) seems to be hyperthreading.L525[18:51:46] <tomdodd4598> Well, still getting the
error... what is going on... ?
<tomdodd4598> Well, still getting the
error... what is going on... ?L526[18:51:52] <Izaya> both the 2520m and
the 4160 are dual core with hyperthreading
L527[18:51:54] <tomdodd4598> Well, still getting the error
with 2705... what is going on... ? [Edited]
<tomdodd4598> Well, still getting the error
with 2705... what is going on... ? [Edited]L528[18:52:13] <Wuerfel_21>
thats a generational difference though
<Wuerfel_21>
thats a generational difference thoughL529[18:52:27] <Wuerfel_21>
doesn't hyperthreading actually _decrease_ IPC?
<Wuerfel_21>
doesn't hyperthreading actually _decrease_ IPC?L530[18:58:13] <MGR>
Depends
<MGR>
DependsL531[19:01:56] <Wuerfel_21>
Well, the decrease is rather small i'd assume
<Wuerfel_21>
Well, the decrease is rather small i'd assumeL532[19:02:24] <Wuerfel_21>
as single-thread speed is often more important
<Wuerfel_21>
as single-thread speed is often more importantL533[19:03:27] <Wuerfel_21>
so hyperthreading would be like an anti-feature if it significantly
impacted it
<Wuerfel_21>
so hyperthreading would be like an anti-feature if it significantly
impacted itL534[19:07:25] <MGR> It
really depends on the workload
<MGR> It
really depends on the workloadL535[19:07:29] <MGR> For a
lot there's no effect
<MGR> For a
lot there's no effectL536[19:15:23] <AmandaC> Izaya: oh hey.
The weapons terminal dude gave me a free 19 slot multitool
L537[19:15:36] <Izaya> oh nice
L538[19:15:40] <Izaya> how're the other
stats?
L539[19:15:44] <AmandaC> It's broken as
fuck, but that's nbd
L540[19:16:28] <AmandaC> I'll check in a
minute, stepped away to make a snack and check irc
L541[19:17:10] <Izaya> man I really want
one of those lenovo USB keyboards with a trackpoint
L542[19:17:20] <Izaya> that'd make my
IRCing while playing games so much easier
L543[19:25:50] <AmandaC> Izaya: class c,
damage +1% mining / scanner +0 damage potential 452, scanner range
201
L544[19:26:41] <AmandaC> ... why the fuck
does damaged wiring need hermetic seals to fix
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L546[19:43:14] <AmandaC> Gods damn
it
L547[19:43:57] <AmandaC> I wish my ship
was put on the landing pad I built, or at least random NPCs would
stop landing on it
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L549[19:44:26] <AmandaC> (when I warp
in)
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L551[19:46:05] <Izaya> Man I want to build
a landing pad
L552[19:46:41] <AmandaC> I got mine
grandfathered in since I'm still playing my old save
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L554[20:01:35] <Kodos>
%tell Inari not yet. I pretty much stopped caring and so did
he.
<Kodos>
%tell Inari not yet. I pretty much stopped caring and so did
he.L555[20:01:35] <MichiBot> Kodos: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L556[20:13:41] <freacknate09> Is it possible to have
OpenOS talk to my Arduino? My thought is I can un-blacklist
127.0.0.1 and have some sort of server on my PC that facilitates
serial communication between the two
<freacknate09> Is it possible to have
OpenOS talk to my Arduino? My thought is I can un-blacklist
127.0.0.1 and have some sort of server on my PC that facilitates
serial communication between the twoL557[20:15:34] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea either
http or tcp sockets are a thing afaik, too
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L559[20:16:08] <ben_mkiv|afk> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1087-tcp-server/
L560[20:16:29] <freacknate09> ok
L561[20:16:50] <AmandaC> They are, but
localhost is blacklisted in OC's default config to prevent server
abuse, ben_mkiv|afk
L562[20:17:06] <freacknate09> Yeah, I
figured I would un-blacklist them
L563[20:17:09] <ben_mkiv|afk> but wouldnt
it be something that isnt localhost anyways?
L564[20:17:10] <freacknate09> it*
L565[20:17:28] <freacknate09> I would be
having a server running on my PC, so I would need to talk to
localhost
L566[20:17:46] <ben_mkiv|afk> ah, ok
L567[20:17:56] <AmandaC> Arduinos
generally don't have wifi
L568[20:18:09] <ben_mkiv|afk> never messed
with them
L569[20:18:11] <freacknate09> I have a
Feather, and it has wifi
L570[20:18:31] <freacknate09> it is an
Arduino-compatible board made by Adafruit
L571[20:18:33] <ben_mkiv|afk> so you could
run the tcp server on the arduino then?!
L572[20:19:13] <freacknate09> I didn't
really want to, but it would work. I do know Arduino a fair bit.
Can I connect to a 10.0.0.XX IP without changing configs?
L573[20:19:30] <freacknate09> My feather
usually gets 10.0.0.16 on my local network
L574[20:20:06] <AmandaC> No, but you can't
connect to localhost either w/o changing configs
L575[20:20:10] <freacknate09> ok
L576[20:20:38] <freacknate09> So I will
just go change the configs. I know I would if I used Localhost, but
wasnt sure about a 10.0.0.xx address
L577[20:21:34] <freacknate09> All of this
does require me to actually know OpenOS's networking
libraries
L578[20:21:34] <AmandaC> Pretty sure
10.0.0.0/8 is blocked as well as 192.168.0.0/??
L579[20:22:06] <freacknate09> What are the
/'s? I haven't seen them when programming/networking
L580[20:22:22] <ben_mkiv|afk>
hostmask
L581[20:22:28] <AmandaC> Cidr network
masks
L582[20:22:32] <freacknate09> ok
L583[20:22:59] <freacknate09> There is a
wiki page about the networking libraries, right?
L584[20:23:54] <AmandaC> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
for cidr info
L585[20:24:26] <AmandaC> ~w component
network
L586[20:24:26] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:generator
L587[20:24:32] <AmandaC> ...
L588[20:24:33] <freacknate09> lol, I found
it
L589[20:24:37] <freacknate09> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:modem?s[]=network
L590[20:24:47] <freacknate09> Well,
https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:modem
L591[20:25:16] <freacknate09> I love this
stuff, even if I am not too good with lua
L592[20:25:18] <AmandaC> Erno, thats the
in-game network
L593[20:25:25] <freacknate09> Yeah, that
is what i wanted
L594[20:25:33] <AmandaC> ~w component
internet
L595[20:25:33] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:internet
L596[20:25:38] <freacknate09> oh
L597[20:25:42] <freacknate09> I may be
stupid
L598[20:25:49] <AmandaC> That's what you
want to talk outside of mc
L599[20:25:55] <freacknate09> Thanks, lol
:)
L600[20:26:03] <freacknate09> I like this
IRC
L601[20:26:40] <AmandaC> There's probably
also a api:network page for openos specific wrapper libraries
L602[20:26:43] <freacknate09> ok
L603[20:26:50] <AmandaC> Er
L604[20:27:11] <freacknate09> Found
it
L605[20:27:18] <AmandaC>
s/network/internet/
L606[20:27:18] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
There's probably also a api:internet page for openos specific
wrapper libraries
L607[20:34:19] *
AmandaC goes back to playing nms now that she's finished some
digital cleanliness
L608[20:41:29] <AmandaC> Izaya: I don't
suppose you know what nms means in this blurb about getting the
first level of planetary zoology means: "use creature
information on the discovery page to locate
undiscovered"
L609[20:42:29] <AmandaC> Izaya: I've got
two planets that I've got just one animal left to find, and I've
spent hours on each, all so I can advance Polo's mission to get an
atlad pass v3
L610[20:44:06] <AmandaC> Fuck
L611[20:44:32] <AmandaC> I've got the
levels to do under extreme survival too
L612[20:51:47] <Z0idburg>
freacknate09 IPs just AND and XNOR
<Z0idburg>
freacknate09 IPs just AND and XNORL613[20:52:51] <Z0idburg>
belated
<Z0idburg>
belatedL614[21:07:02] ⇦
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L616[21:09:29] <freacknate09> What do you
mean just and and xnor?
L617[21:09:43] <freacknate09> Odd that it
said I left
L618[21:19:57] <Izaya> say the netmask is
255.255.255.0
L619[21:20:20] <Izaya> to get the network
address you AND that with the address
L620[21:20:43] <beesnees2> what's the most
low-overhead OC os
L621[21:20:46] <Izaya> so 192.168.42.44
AND 255.255.255.0 -> 192.168.42.0
L622[21:20:54] <beesnees2> other than just
writing your own EEPROM
L623[21:21:12] <Izaya> miniOS or PsychOS,
probably
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L625[21:35:34] <Z0idburg>
Izaya, I made this btw
<Z0idburg>
Izaya, I made this btwL626[21:35:37] <Z0idburg>
ftp://tiberius.lobsternetworks.com/trotwood/trotwood.pdf
<Z0idburg>
ftp://tiberius.lobsternetworks.com/trotwood/trotwood.pdfL627[21:35:46] <Z0idburg>
you should breeze through that and tell me what you thinjk
<Z0idburg>
you should breeze through that and tell me what you thinjkL628[21:56:37] <Izaya> Will do
L629[21:56:43] <Izaya> At work atm
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L633[22:33:28] <freacknate09> I am not
really a fan of IRC freely giving out your IP
L634[22:36:45] <freacknate09> Is there
anything on the Wiki about programming EEPROMs?
L635[22:42:21] <Kodos> ~w
custom os
<Kodos> ~w
custom osL636[22:42:21] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L637[22:42:30] <Kodos> I
believe most of the stuff there works on EEPROMs
<Kodos> I
believe most of the stuff there works on EEPROMsL638[22:44:45] <freacknate09> cool,
thanks. I am interested in making a custom OS
L639[22:59:26] <AmandaC> Izaya: just
started the set up of a mining site near a deposit of activated
cadmium., So hopefully I'll have an even more stable supply of cm
now. However, carbon unexpectedly is now a bottle neck
L640[23:00:12] <AmandaC> Now, sleep
though. Night nerds.
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L642[23:10:09] <Izaya> o/
L643[23:10:25] <Izaya> freacknate09: get a
bouncer or mask
L644[23:11:01] <freacknate09> For what?
The custom OS or my project of making my Arduino talk to
OpenOS?
L645[23:12:09] <Mimiru>
"<freacknate09> I am not really a fan of IRC freely
giving out your IP""
L646[23:12:16] <freacknate09> ahh
L647[23:12:27] <freacknate09> Not too
concerned, just don't like how it does that
L648[23:13:42] <Izaya> it made sense in
1988
L649[23:13:47] <Izaya> a lot of IRC is
like that
L650[23:14:14] <Temia> Most ircds apply
hostmask obfuscation by default now.
L651[23:14:22] <Temia> I leave it off
because vanity domain
L652[23:14:45] <Izaya> I have a domain
pointing at my home IP that I regularly give out, hiding it on IRC
seems a little pointless
L653[23:15:09] <Izaya> S3: good
presentation
L654[23:25:11] <freacknate09> ahh
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L656[23:39:53] <freacknate09> Well, I'm
gonna try MineOS, I hear it is good
L657[23:40:35] <Izaya> o/
L658[23:40:37] <Izaya> consider also KOS
NOE
L659[23:40:39] <Izaya> NEO
L660[23:43:16] <freacknate09> NEO sounds
familliar
L661[23:43:36] <freacknate09> Should I
stick with MineOS? It looks pretty, especially for it's hardware it
is on
L662[23:44:03] <Mimiru> Poor Neo getting
pinged
L663[23:44:09] <Izaya> use whatever works
for you
L664[23:44:41] <Izaya> KOS provides a GUI
while not needing T3 hardware though
L665[23:44:45] <freacknate09> Ok, I want a
graphical OS, and I want to make one. I kinda like the IDE,
currently playing with the paint program
L666[23:44:52] <freacknate09> ok, I will
check out KOS, link?
L667[23:45:29] <Izaya> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS
L668[23:45:48] <freacknate09> cool, I will
check it out, I just set up a second system w/ max hardware in my
creative save
L669[23:46:09] <Izaya> Minitel works on
there too, fwiw :3
L670[23:46:20] <freacknate09> cool. Is
there an installer for KOS?
L671[23:46:28] <freacknate09> like a
pastebin run link?
L672[23:46:50] <Izaya> releases page
L673[23:46:59] <Izaya> Put that on a disk
as init.lua and boot from it
L674[23:47:11] <Izaya> It'll install to
the disk you put it on
L675[23:47:15] <freacknate09> ok
L676[23:47:39] <freacknate09> MineOS feels
a little sluggish, when moving windows around
L677[23:49:14] <freacknate09> Though I am
having great deals of fun with it
L678[23:49:23] *
Izaya nods
L679[23:49:41] <Izaya> It's very cool, but
not overly practical, from what I've seen
L680[23:50:38] <freacknate09> ahh, ok. I
am gonna play around with it, then set up KOS and decide what I
want to make my OS on, either gonna use MineOS, KOS, or
OpenOS
L681[23:50:51] <Izaya> All of these are
already OSes
L682[23:51:27] <Izaya> If you mean as a
development platform, out of game is still the way to go :p
L683[23:51:35] <Izaya> Can't beat
vim
L684[23:52:05] <freacknate09> oh, ok. I
meant as dev platform. I've never tried out of game development for
OC
L685[23:52:22] <freacknate09> Dropping the
resolution seems to be more responsive
L686[23:53:20] <freacknate09> I am gonna
disable wallpaper to make it faster
L687[23:55:23] <freacknate09> I like doing
stuff ingame for development