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L2[00:12:36] <tinydoggy> what the heck is an
"uncraftable potion"
L3[00:12:53] <MineRobber9000> a potion a
player cannot craft?
L4[00:13:13] <tinydoggy> okay so, why is it
in the recepie for naviagation upgrade?
L5[00:14:43] <MineRobber9000> idk
L6[00:15:07] 
<Forecaster>
where are you seeing it?
<Forecaster>
where are you seeing it?L7[00:15:17] <Forecaster>
are you seeing it in the component list in the tooltip?
<Forecaster>
are you seeing it in the component list in the tooltip?L8[00:15:58] <tinydoggy> im seeing that in
the NEI
L9[00:16:12] <tinydoggy> and on the wiki it
just says "potion" and shows a water bottle
L10[00:16:41] <tinydoggy> https://imgur.com/a/JPQsF
L11[00:16:43] <tinydoggy> here ya go
L12[00:16:51] <Forecaster>
it probably just takes any potion then
<Forecaster>
it probably just takes any potion thenL13[00:17:21] <tinydoggy> thats what i
thought too but it did not work :(
L14[00:26:00] <Forecaster>
strange
<Forecaster>
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L16[01:07:28] <Forecaster>
%jumble ^
<Forecaster>
%jumble ^L17[01:07:28] <MichiBot> did thats :( it
but i what not work thought too
L19[01:10:29] <Forecaster>
So apparently this took place
<Forecaster>
So apparently this took placeL20[01:10:45] <Forecaster>
That's a stupid title...
<Forecaster>
That's a stupid title...L21[01:40:51] <Pablu>
Where can I find documentation for creating addons?
<Pablu>
Where can I find documentation for creating addons?L22[01:41:28] <Pablu> Like
creating a custom block that is connected as a component
<Pablu> Like
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L24[01:57:10] <Forecaster>
@Pablu look at computronics and/or ask Vexatos
<Forecaster>
@Pablu look at computronics and/or ask VexatosL25[02:02:19] <Pablu>
Okay, thanks
<Pablu>
Okay, thanksL26[02:09:28] ⇨
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L27[02:09:28] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L28[02:15:24] <Pablu>
@Vexatos , hey
<Pablu>
@Vexatos , heyL29[02:15:53] <Pablu> Do
you mind if I dm you?
<Pablu> Do
you mind if I dm you?L30[02:16:45] <Forecaster>
don't dm people
<Forecaster>
don't dm peopleL31[02:17:54] <Pablu>
why?
<Pablu>
why?L32[02:18:42] <Forecaster>
if you have questions related to OC ask them here
<Forecaster>
if you have questions related to OC ask them hereL33[02:19:20] <Forecaster>
even if directed at a specific person there's a chance someone else
may be able to help or have input
<Forecaster>
even if directed at a specific person there's a chance someone else
may be able to help or have inputL34[02:20:05] <Pablu>
True, yeah
<Pablu>
True, yeahL35[02:21:19] <Pablu>
@Vexatos , is there a documentation for interacting with OC, as in
creating new blocks that work as "components"? Or should
I guess it by reading the source code?
<Pablu>
@Vexatos , is there a documentation for interacting with OC, as in
creating new blocks that work as "components"? Or should
I guess it by reading the source code?L36[02:22:36] <Vexatos> OC has what's just
about the most well-documented API in any mod I know
L37[02:22:45] <Vexatos> just reading the
javadoc should tell you almost everything
L38[02:23:00] <Vexatos> TLDR there are two
ways to do this, and you need to seriously think about which one to
choose
L39[02:23:07] <Vexatos> what kind of
component are you interested in addin
L40[02:23:35] <Pablu> A
printer
<Pablu> A
printerL41[02:23:58] <Vexatos> Ah
L42[02:23:59] <Pablu> So
you put a paper item in it, print stuff, and get a printed
paper
<Pablu> So
you put a paper item in it, print stuff, and get a printed
paperL43[02:24:03] <Vexatos> Which minecraft
version
L44[02:24:19] <Forecaster>
there's such an addon already
<Forecaster>
there's such an addon alreadyL45[02:24:22] <Vexatos> doing this is a lot
easier on 1.11+
L46[02:24:27] <Vexatos> also that https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openprinter
L47[02:24:34] <Vexatos> Not to discourage
you from making your own
L48[02:25:01] <Forecaster>
of course not, just in case you weren't aware
<Forecaster>
of course not, just in case you weren't awareL49[02:25:52] <Pablu> It's
for 1.11+, yeah
<Pablu> It's
for 1.11+, yeahL50[02:26:03] <Pablu>
Making my own because that one is outdated
<Pablu>
Making my own because that one is outdatedL51[02:26:15] <Forecaster>
outdated?
<Forecaster>
outdated?L52[02:26:21] <Pablu>
Yes
<Pablu>
YesL53[02:26:45] <Forecaster>
how is it outdated?
<Forecaster>
how is it outdated?L54[02:27:03] <Forecaster>
it has a release for 1.12
<Forecaster>
it has a release for 1.12L55[02:27:22] <Pablu>
Yeah, the 1.12 release is broken for me
<Pablu>
Yeah, the 1.12 release is broken for meL56[02:27:39] <Forecaster>
you know it's open source right? :P
<Forecaster>
you know it's open source right? :PL57[02:27:44] <Pablu> Some
UIs don't show correcly or crash the game
<Pablu> Some
UIs don't show correcly or crash the gameL58[02:27:53] <Pablu> Oh,
is it?
<Pablu> Oh,
is it?L59[02:27:57] <Forecaster>
of course...
<Forecaster>
of course...L60[02:28:14] <Forecaster>
as are most OC addons
<Forecaster>
as are most OC addonsL61[02:28:19] <Forecaster>
if not all
<Forecaster>
if not allL62[02:28:46] <Vexatos> Why did you think
it was called ~Open~Printer
L63[02:29:24] <Pablu> Ah,
what a genius I am
<Pablu> Ah,
what a genius I amL64[02:29:57] <Vexatos> OpenComputers isn't
called OpenComputers for no reason :P
L65[02:30:21] <Pablu> I
also want to add something like a punch tape
<Pablu> I
also want to add something like a punch tapeL66[02:30:37] <Forecaster>
that is not something that already exists
<Forecaster>
that is not something that already existsL67[02:30:56] <Forecaster>
though open security has mag-cards which would be sort of
similar
<Forecaster>
though open security has mag-cards which would be sort of
similarL68[02:30:58] <Pablu> So
there's no OpenPunchTape? I'm glad. Haha
<Pablu> So
there's no OpenPunchTape? I'm glad. HahaL69[02:31:05] <Forecaster>
might be something to look at to see how it's done
<Forecaster>
might be something to look at to see how it's doneL70[02:31:26] <Vexatos> I mean Computronics
has a ticket machine that punches tickets
L71[02:31:33] <Forecaster>
train tickets > - >
<Forecaster>
train tickets > - >L72[02:31:35] <Vexatos> Railway tickets
:P
L73[02:31:49] <Pablu>
Yeah, my current method is to read the source code of the tape
drive
<Pablu>
Yeah, my current method is to read the source code of the tape
driveL74[02:31:51] <Vexatos> It has the world's
best dot-matrix printer sound though
L75[02:31:53] <Vexatos> bwahaha
L76[02:32:06] <Vexatos> oh god don't read
the source code of the tape drive
L77[02:32:10] <Vexatos> that stuff is from
2013
L78[02:32:23] <Pablu>
?
<Pablu>
?L79[02:32:26] <Vexatos> If you plan to make
your mod for 1.11 or 1.12 there is a waaay better way to do i
L80[02:32:28] <Vexatos> it
L81[02:32:47] <Vexatos> TL;DR Environment
is a capability now.
L82[02:32:52] <Pablu> yeah
1.12.2 is my target
<Pablu> yeah
1.12.2 is my targetL83[02:33:05] <Vexatos> If you don't know
what that is, learn about it. If you do, great you are practically
done
L84[02:33:24] <Vexatos> making an OC addon
has never been this easy
L85[02:33:24] <Pablu>
Enviroment?
<Pablu>
Enviroment?L86[02:33:39] <Vexatos> Environment is the
thing you implement on a block to turn it into a Component
L87[02:33:43] <Vexatos> or rather, you used
to implement it
L88[02:33:53] <Vexatos> now you just attach
a capability extending Environment
L89[02:34:21] <Vexatos> If you want to keep
it simple, you can implement SimpleComponent too
L90[02:34:27] <Vexatos> or rather annotate
it with that
L91[02:34:38] <Vexatos> But you likely want
your block to consume energy, etc
L92[02:34:43] <Vexatos> so Environment is
the way to go
L93[02:34:59] <Vexatos> as I said, OC has
absolutely excellent javadoc
L94[02:35:04] <Vexatos> in its API
L95[02:35:36] <Pablu> Ah,
alright
<Pablu> Ah,
alrightL96[02:35:42] <Pablu>
Great, thanks
<Pablu>
Great, thanksL97[02:37:01] <Vexatos> Just ask me
anything >-<
L98[02:37:12] <Vexatos> anything that isn't
answered in the javadoc, that is
L99[02:38:05] <Forecaster>
what is love?
<Forecaster>
what is love?L100[02:39:18] <Vexatos> a game
development framework for Lua
L101[02:39:25] <Vexatos> https://love2d.org/
L102[02:39:42] <Vexatos> next
L103[02:39:59] <Izaya> another satisfied
customer
L104[02:40:09] <Pablu> what
is the meaning of life, universe, and everything?
<Pablu> what
is the meaning of life, universe, and everything?L105[02:40:26] <Vexatos> I'm still working
on that
L106[02:40:47] <Forecaster>
the actual name for that is "LÖVE" :|
<Forecaster>
the actual name for that is "LÖVE" :|L107[02:40:52] <Vexatos> Yes it is
L108[02:40:52] <Forecaster>
I'm dissatisfied
<Forecaster>
I'm dissatisfiedL109[02:40:54] <Vexatos> or love2d
L110[02:41:14] <Forecaster>
but my question didn't end with "LÖVE" or
"love2d" :|
<Forecaster>
but my question didn't end with "LÖVE" or
"love2d" :|L111[02:41:23] <Vexatos>
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love
L112[02:42:04] <Forecaster>
huh, Move or Die uses LÖVE
<Forecaster>
huh, Move or Die uses LÖVEL113[02:42:06] <Forecaster>
nice
<Forecaster>
niceL114[02:42:08] <Forecaster>
I have that
<Forecaster>
I have thatL115[02:42:10] <Forecaster>
it's fun
<Forecaster>
it's funL116[02:42:26] <Vexatos> wait
L117[02:42:33] <Vexatos> people use it for
anything other than prototyping?
L118[02:42:38] <Vexatos> It's really quite
slow >_<
L119[02:42:47] <Forecaster>
move or die is a fast game
<Forecaster>
move or die is a fast gameL120[02:42:57] <Vexatos> I think I know
the game
L121[02:43:04] <Pablu>
Beings slow gives it a retro feel, y'know?
<Pablu>
Beings slow gives it a retro feel, y'know?L122[02:44:10] <Forecaster>
move or die is none of those things :P
<Forecaster>
move or die is none of those things :PL123[03:31:32]
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L125[03:37:16] <Forecaster>
%jubmle
<Forecaster>
%jubmleL126[03:37:21] <Forecaster>
%jumble
<Forecaster>
%jumbleL127[03:37:21] <MichiBot> Yes it is
L128[03:37:25] <Forecaster>
...
<Forecaster>
...L129[03:37:29] <Forecaster>
okay then
<Forecaster>
okay thenL130[03:37:41] <Forecaster>
hm
<Forecaster>
hmL131[03:37:54] <Forecaster>
I should maybe prevent it from outputting the input...
<Forecaster>
I should maybe prevent it from outputting the input...L132[04:42:35] <Sparky>
Hello
<Sparky>
HelloL133[04:52:41] <Forecaster>
Hi
<Forecaster>
HiL134[04:52:59] <Sparky> Do
any of you have a robot program I could use for mining?
<Sparky> Do
any of you have a robot program I could use for mining?L135[04:53:06] <Forecaster>
check the forum
<Forecaster>
check the forumL136[04:53:32] <Sparky>
Also, how does the robot regenerate its power?
<Sparky>
Also, how does the robot regenerate its power?L137[04:53:59] <Forecaster>
charger, solar panel upgrade or generator upgrade
<Forecaster>
charger, solar panel upgrade or generator upgradeL138[05:12:41] ⇦
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L143[05:41:08] <Inari> Empires Apart
sounds neat
L144[05:42:18] <Forecaster>
An employee in the Burger King I'm at is wearing a bunny
onesie
<Forecaster>
An employee in the Burger King I'm at is wearing a bunny
onesieL145[05:53:21] <Mettaton_Fab> thats still ok
<Mettaton_Fab> thats still okL146[05:55:26] <Forecaster>
Still ok?
<Forecaster>
Still ok?L147[05:58:23] <Inari> Haha
L148[05:58:24] <Inari> Love it
L149[06:08:54] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel:
https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/979313792331997184
a special kind of art
L150[06:08:54] <MichiBot> Thu Mar 29
06:06:17 CDT 2018 @EmrgencyKittens: what a realistic illustration
?
L151[06:09:44] <Mettaton_Fab> man, Pants Pants Revolution
really is amazing
<Mettaton_Fab> man, Pants Pants Revolution
really is amazingL152[06:12:23] <Kodos> Okay, I need tips
for muscle pain that aren't being tased by a cop
L153[06:12:37] <Inari> Being tased is good
against muscle pain?
L154[06:12:39] <Kodos> To clarify, my
shoulder is killing me, and I need it to stop
L155[06:12:47] <Kodos> Inari, ever heard
of a TENS unit?
L156[06:13:05] <Inari> I thought those are
generally to exercise a muscle
L157[06:13:08] <Inari> Not to soothe
pain
L158[06:13:27] <Kodos> I've always used
them to relieve pain
L159[06:13:31] <Kodos> But I can't find
mine
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L162[06:20:58] <Sparky>
What does the digger floppy do? I assume its a digging program for
a robot, but I can't find any information on it
<Sparky>
What does the digger floppy do? I assume its a digging program for
a robot, but I can't find any information on itL163[06:21:48] <Arcan> dig?
L164[06:22:11] <Kodos> I believe it's just
a shovel version of excavate, isn't it?
L165[06:22:21] <Kodos> Actually, let me
just go check the files
L166[06:24:05] <Kodos> Yeah, looks like
it's basically an excavation program
L167[06:27:37] <Sparky>
What are the functions of it? How do I make it do
<Sparky>
What are the functions of it? How do I make it doL168[06:28:43] <Kodos> It should have a
man page
L169[06:29:09] <Kodos> Just type `man
dig`
L170[06:30:01] <Kodos> I'm heading to bed,
but you can find all the loot disk source files on the GitHub if
you need to check anything
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L175[07:56:46] <Izaya> microtel socket
listeners work wonderfully on embedded devices
L176[07:56:47] <Izaya> excellent
L177[07:57:38] <Izaya> It's still larger
than I'd like but it does work.
L178[07:58:58] <Izaya> 2,999 bytes for the
whole stack, but you can generally cut at least 500 bytes off of
that.
L179[08:00:38] <Izaya> Oh, with normal
line endings it's only 2849. Excellent.
L180[08:01:13] <Izaya> For just something
that listens for connections, only 2267 bytes. :D
L181[08:01:29] <Mimiru> So
today is the last day of my trip. I’m starting from Nice California
(pronounced niece.. lol). I should be in Portland OR around 4
pm.
<Mimiru> So
today is the last day of my trip. I’m starting from Nice California
(pronounced niece.. lol). I should be in Portland OR around 4
pm.L182[08:01:41] <Izaya> Exciting?
L183[08:01:46] <Mimiru>
9ish hours left
<Mimiru>
9ish hours leftL184[08:01:52] <S3> Well this just really
pisses me off
L185[08:02:05] <S3> -somebody- put every
pair of pants I own in the wash this morning
L186[08:02:08] <Mimiru> I’m
ready for the drive to be done lol
<Mimiru> I’m
ready for the drive to be done lolL187[08:02:13] <S3> so I have to miss
class and what else
L188[08:02:37] <Izaya> did they steal your
pants off your person while you were asleep?
L189[08:02:54] <Mimiru> S3
go in your pjs lol
<Mimiru> S3
go in your pjs lolL190[08:02:58] <S3> Nah I didn't sleep in
my clothes last night
L191[08:03:02] <S3> Mimiru No!
Gross!
L192[08:03:09] <S3> That's just really
weird.
L193[08:03:13] <Mimiru>
Lol
<Mimiru>
LolL194[08:03:17] <Izaya> It'd be like a
nightmare.
L195[08:03:36] <S3> Might as well go in
your underwear
L196[08:03:52] <Mimiru>
@payonel I’ll be in Portland in like 9 hours!
<Mimiru>
@payonel I’ll be in Portland in like 9 hours!L197[08:04:00] <Izaya> !confetti
L198[08:04:03] <S3> Mimiru PORTLAND!
L199[08:04:04] <Izaya> %confetti
L200[08:04:07] <Izaya> fug
L201[08:04:20] <S3> population 67000
L202[08:04:34] <Izaya> oh wow that's only
double here
L203[08:04:46] <MGR> I'm
pretty sure that's Portland, ME not Portland, OR
<MGR> I'm
pretty sure that's Portland, ME not Portland, ORL204[08:04:50] <S3> :)
L205[08:04:53] <MGR> Mimiru
is going to Portland, OR
<MGR> Mimiru
is going to Portland, ORL206[08:04:54] <S3> yeah I was
teasin
L207[08:05:00] <S3> portland OR is like
630,000
L208[08:05:02] <S3> or some shit
L209[08:05:16] <S3> I live not far from a
place that is 40,000
L210[08:05:20] <S3> and 40,000 is TOO MANY
PEOPLE
L211[08:05:32] <Izaya> 35,000 here
L212[08:05:33] <Izaya> too few
people
L213[08:05:41] <S3> Izaya: I grew up in a
town of ~600
L214[08:05:44] <Izaya> if you're gonna
have more than 10 people you might as well have a million
L215[08:05:51] <S3> the town next over was
just over 100
L216[08:06:02] <Izaya> I grew up in a
similar place.
L217[08:06:05] <Izaya> Never again.
L218[08:06:14] <Izaya> I never want to go
anywhere with a population below 1000.
L219[08:06:30] <S3> Izaya: should move
here: http://www.kokadjo.com/images/moose/kokadjosign-moose-1.jpg
L220[08:06:30] <S3> :D
L221[08:07:26] <S3> I think the population
is actually 3 iirc
L222[08:07:29] <S3> if it hasn't
changed
L223[08:08:31] <S3> there's no population
consensus that is acurate because it is considered to be part of
greenville about 20 minutes to the southwest
L224[08:08:38] <S3> and that town is
population 1000 something
L225[08:21:12] *
Izaya sighs
L226[08:21:22] <Izaya> Looks like crunch
doesn't work any more, excellent.
L227[08:23:47] <Arcan> %pet Izaya
L228[08:23:48] *
MichiBot brushes Izaya with a rhubarb. Izaya recovers 1
health!
L229[08:23:55] <Arcan> mm, rhubarb is
good
L230[08:24:09] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a
rebar
L231[08:24:09] *
MichiBot accepts the rebar and adds it to her
inventory
L232[08:24:12] <Izaya> I'm not entirely
sure what it is, but last time it was in something I didn't dislike
it
L233[08:26:30] <Izaya> Oh well, 2.2KB is
pretty good for a full networking stack with sockets and all.
L234[08:43:49] <AmandaC> %choose code or
anime
L235[08:43:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
anime
L236[08:44:20] <Izaya> guess you'll write
something interesting, then
L237[08:45:58] <AmandaC> Might just do
nothing. Not really in the mood to veg out quite yet
L238[08:46:05] <AmandaC> but also not int
he mood to code
L239[08:46:14] <AmandaC> %choose game or
no game
L240[08:46:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: no
game
L241[08:48:13] <AmandaC> Oh hey, the
replacement fan for my laptop will be here tuesday, it seems
L242[08:48:23] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L243[08:48:38] <MGR> My
replacement motherboard will be here tomorrow, hopefully ending 2
months of downtime
<MGR> My
replacement motherboard will be here tomorrow, hopefully ending 2
months of downtimeL244[08:49:05] <Izaya> Still waiting to
borrow a first-gen ryzen from a friend to get my 2200G box working
x_x
L245[08:49:24] <MGR> You
have a 2200G?
<MGR> You
have a 2200G?L246[08:49:27] <MGR> It's a
nice CPU
<MGR> It's a
nice CPUL247[08:49:33] <Izaya> I have a machine
with a 2200G
L248[08:49:38] <MGR> Do you
have a dedicated GPU, or just using the iGPU?
<MGR> Do you
have a dedicated GPU, or just using the iGPU?L249[08:49:45] <Izaya> iGPU
L250[08:49:49] <Izaya> it's no
slouch
L251[08:49:55] <MGR>
Correct
<MGR>
CorrectL252[08:50:08] <MGR> The
2400G is good enough for 1080p at low-medium
<MGR> The
2400G is good enough for 1080p at low-mediumL253[08:50:11] <Izaya> apparently it'll
perform like a 1030 or 750Ti, which is p. impressive
L254[08:50:29] <Izaya> Much better than
anything Intel does in that dept, and much cheaper to boot.
L255[08:50:41] <Izaya> But yeah x_x BIOS
update needed.
L256[08:50:48] <MGR> The
2200G might be -20% to the 1030, but you can overclock the iGPU and
memory to close that gap and surpass the 1030
<MGR> The
2200G might be -20% to the 1030, but you can overclock the iGPU and
memory to close that gap and surpass the 1030L257[08:51:01] <MGR> But
yeah, it destroys Intel's iGPU
<MGR> But
yeah, it destroys Intel's iGPUL258[08:51:12] <Izaya> That's the
important part, I guess.
L259[08:51:24] <Izaya> It'll run Skyrim,
which I imagine is the important part.
L260[08:51:37] <MGR> I
think AMD picked a good time to release them
<MGR> I
think AMD picked a good time to release themL261[08:51:53] <MGR> dGPU
prices are sky high, which makes a powerful iGPU much more
effective
<MGR> dGPU
prices are sky high, which makes a powerful iGPU much more
effectiveL262[08:51:58] <Izaya> Indeed.
L263[08:52:20] <MGR> dGPU
prices are sky high, which makes a powerful iGPU much more
attractive [Edited]
<MGR> dGPU
prices are sky high, which makes a powerful iGPU much more
attractive [Edited]L264[08:53:59] <Izaya> Oh, and the Talos
II is shipping now.
L265[08:54:16] <Forecaster>
Praise the Divines
<Forecaster>
Praise the DivinesL266[08:54:40] <Izaya> 64 threads per CPU,
~4Ghz, fucktonnes of RAM supported...
L267[08:55:03] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L268[08:55:34] <Izaya> The high-end POWER9
chips have 16 cores, 4 threads per core, and run at ~4Ghz
L269[08:56:20] <MGR>
Ahhhhh, I didn't know you were talking about POWER9 now
<MGR>
Ahhhhh, I didn't know you were talking about POWER9 nowL270[08:56:45] <Izaya> Too bad I can't
afford one x_x
L271[08:57:11] <Izaya> Or anything much
right now, I guess. Oh well.
L272[08:57:20] <Izaya> Incentive to sell
off some of this shit, I s'pose.
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L274[09:07:58] <S3> Izaya: By the end of
the day today my actor model test should be working! :D
L275[09:08:06] <Izaya> :D
L276[09:08:10] <S3> I just need to figure
out how I'm going to do my process loader with custom
environments
L277[09:08:53] <S3> I do have a concern
that if a process sends a message to another process with a table
and the other process edits the table it will modify the table on
the other process..
L278[09:08:57] <S3> what do you
think?
L279[09:09:35] <Izaya> That's how it
works, I think.
L280[09:09:51] <Izaya> I'd advise copying
table contents
L281[09:09:56] <S3> It's an antipattern of
actor model, so I could copy yeah
L282[09:10:04] <S3> though if the table is
really large it may be a long delay
L283[09:10:17] <Izaya> Does your stuff run
on OpenOS or?
L284[09:10:29] <S3> an alternative is to
deep copy the state of a process and crash the process every
iteration
L285[09:10:41] <S3> well right now it's
literally just a scheduler.
L286[09:10:51] <S3> I want it to integrate
in openos as a service maybe at some point
L287[09:11:05] <S3> right now it's all in
an init.lua :D
L288[09:11:18] <S3> it's probably about 50
lines or less
L289[09:12:04] <Izaya> oic
L290[09:12:39] <S3> I plan to test it out
with a gpu api once it's running
L291[09:12:44] <S3> and try to print
hello, world with it
L292[09:13:01] <Izaya> Well, if you want a
super minimal networking API for testing, tape this to the front of
your init:
L294[09:13:25] <S3> microtel eh
L295[09:13:37] <Izaya> Minitel for
embedded devices :D
L296[09:14:04] <S3> neat. How's it
work?
L297[09:14:16] <S3> I might be interested
in using minitel for cluster computing the actors :D
L298[09:14:32] <Izaya> Hooks
computer.pullSignal mostly
L299[09:14:42] <S3> my hope is that if you
have 2 or more OC computers connected then you can boot it up so
that the actors you start distribute across those computers
L300[09:14:56] <Izaya> The -3 version
exposes net.send and queues net_msg events
L301[09:15:12] <S3> it won't run any
faster I don't think, but it can pool resources like disk
space
L302[09:15:16] <S3> and make use of more
memory
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L304[09:15:32] <Izaya> -4 allows messages
larger than the hardware MTU and -5 has sockets
L305[09:17:58] <Izaya> I still need to
document the API but I finally got sockets working properly
tonight
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L308[09:48:13] <Inari> Anyone here happen
to use Clipstudio Paint? :P
L309[09:48:42] <Forecaster>
%jumble ^
<Forecaster>
%jumble ^L310[09:48:42] <MichiBot> happen
Clipstudio to Anyone :P use here Paint?
L311[09:50:26] <Inari> I'm trying to
understand what "brush density" means and how it differs
from "opacitY". As well as what "gap" means in
this context
L312[09:51:04] <Forecaster>
probably brush splatter?
<Forecaster>
probably brush splatter?L313[09:51:28] <Inari> Well it's help
seems to say the brush desnity adjusts the opacity of each bursh
tip
L314[09:51:39] <Inari> But its somehow
different from just decreasing the opacity of the brush
itself
L315[09:52:08] <Forecaster>
maybe there's some variance
<Forecaster>
maybe there's some varianceL316[09:53:08] <Inari> What I mostly
notice is that when I draw with decreased brush density
L317[09:53:14] <Inari> And I draw over the
same area in the same stroke it adds up
L318[09:53:19] <Inari> Wiht opacity it
doesn't do that in the same stroke
L319[09:53:23] <Inari> Only when you let
go and do another
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L322[10:37:59] <S3> trying to remember how
I used load to run a coroutine with a custom ENV
L323[10:47:31] <S3> payonel: turns out
soni wasnt a local problem
L324[10:47:41] <S3> apparently soni has
been going around in other communities doing the same shit
L325[10:47:47] <S3> including the official
Lua community
L326[10:47:52] <S3> lol
L327[10:48:20] <MGR> And
what has he been doing exactly?
<MGR> And
what has he been doing exactly?L328[10:49:24]
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L329[10:51:35] <S3> everything,
apparently
L330[10:58:24] <S3> Apparently now he's
having fun in the Rust community
L331[11:01:10] <S3> MajGenRelativity:
https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/issues/194
L332[11:01:11] <MichiBot> Title:
Support for smart quotes | Posted by: SoniEx2 |
Posted: Sun Jun 19 14:54:29 CDT 2016 | Status:
closed
L333[11:01:11] <S3> :D
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L335[11:02:09] <MajGenRelativity> Well
would you look at that
L336[11:02:21] <Forecaster>
since when does notepad use smartquotes
<Forecaster>
since when does notepad use smartquotesL337[11:02:35] <S3> apparently soni said:
"I don't care so much about the speed of the interpreted JIT
as much as I care about being able to experiment with it at
runtime."
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L342[12:00:32] <Temia`> I love how
succinct that issue is.
L343[12:00:34] <Temia`> It's almost
artistic.
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L345[12:05:34] <CompanionCube> S3: i have
seen soni in multiple other channels
L346[12:05:39] <CompanionCube> such as
archlinux
L347[12:06:40] <Temia> It's almost unreal
how clueless he is.
L348[12:11:35] <S3> CompanionCube:
rofl
L349[12:11:53] <CompanionCube> S3: it was
about package distribution
L350[12:12:00] <CompanionCube> and I think
I have the logs
L351[12:12:09] <S3> heh
L352[12:12:16] <S3> was it complaining
about the AUR at least?
L353[12:12:21] <S3> since the AUR is
horrifyingly awful
L354[12:12:34] <CompanionCube> don't think
so
L355[12:13:02] <S3> heh
L356[12:13:20] <S3> ok this is a
challenge
L357[12:13:28] <S3> I want to have
spawn(function
L358[12:13:29] <S3> )
L359[12:13:39] <S3> where function is a
passed function
L360[12:13:52] <S3> and I want it
sandboxed in its own ENV. I know I've done something like it before
without debug..
L361[12:14:23] <payonel> S3: not possible
with lua >= 5.2
L362[12:14:35] <S3> I did something with
load
L363[12:14:46] <S3> but it may have been
passing a string of a function instead
L364[12:14:50] <S3> which is ugly af
L365[12:14:50] <payonel> you don't load a
function, you load text
L366[12:15:09] <S3> wait.. wait wait wait
wait wait
L367[12:15:13] *
payonel waits
L368[12:15:20] <S3> I may be on to
something
L369[12:15:28] <S3> I can load a string
with an empty env as a template
L370[12:15:40] <payonel> you said
"pass a function"
L371[12:15:46] <S3> then everyoe is inside
that env when they pass the function within that env
L372[12:15:50] <S3> yesbut this is like a
wrapper
L373[12:15:56] <payonel> that was the only
part i was declaring not possible
L374[12:16:20] <payonel> S3: once a
function exists, you can't swap its env
L375[12:16:27] <payonel> you bake in its
env
L376[12:16:29] <payonel> when you load
it
L377[12:17:30] <S3> my right but the idea
is to setup env in a string
L378[12:17:42] <S3> before they make the
function
L379[12:18:16] <S3> so for example, the OS
might run in two layers
L380[12:18:26] <S3> the top layer has full
access, the bottom layer is in its own sandbox
L381[12:18:29] <payonel> look, simplify
then work back
L382[12:18:49] <payonel> all i'm saying is
once you've loaded a function, its env is fixed
L383[12:19:08] <S3> yes so you mess with
the env before the function is loaded
L384[12:19:29] <payonel> fine, but in oc
you don't have access to upvalues of the function
L385[12:19:39] <S3> if everyone spawns
their processes in the lower half of the stringified loaded
kernel..
L386[12:20:02] <S3> well something I did
as a test a year ago or so was make what I call a punch gate
L387[12:20:51] <S3> where you basically
have an interface to talk between environments. It actually worked,
I'm pretty sure I remember how I did it too
L388[12:21:08] <S3> I think I just cheated
and put the function in the sandboxed env iirc
L389[12:21:26] <S3> May have been more
complicated
L390[12:22:12] <S3> I almost thing I used
a closure object
L391[12:22:17] <S3> think*
L392[12:22:47] <S3> because a table can
exist in more than one environment
L393[12:23:47] <S3> payonel: you probably
think I'm insane and crazy by now
L394[12:24:31] <payonel> no, with all due
respect. i think youre over complicating the building blocks you
have available, but i do think you're clever and i know you can
come up with something good
L395[12:26:43] <S3> payonel: I tend to
overcomplicate things for the sake of having something to think
about.
L396[12:26:45] <S3> :D
L397[12:28:10] <S3> My goals in reality
are that, actors can't share their data without sending messages,
so there's no shared memory. Also, messages are deep copied so that
for example messaged table modification can't create side effects
that effect other actors directly
L398[12:28:22] <S3> shared memory is an
anti pattern of actors
L399[12:32:17] <S3> It is also quite
likely payonel that this will be slow as shit, even though my
actors won't run unless they have an event in their mailbox.
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L401[12:50:16] <payonel> S3: will you be
doing string parsing and load()s a lot during "runtime"
to get jobs done?
L402[12:50:25] <payonel> if not, perf will
be fine
L403[12:55:05] <S3> the idea is to just
load processes as a sting when you start them
L404[13:02:24] <AmandaC> %choose anime or
game or meh
L405[13:02:24] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
anime
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L409[13:06:20] <S3> AmandaC: I've bunge
watched a lot of anime lately
L410[13:06:22] <Sparky>
Hello
<Sparky>
HelloL411[13:06:30] <S3> Hey Sparky!
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L413[13:18:37] <Sparky> I'm
trying to do robot farming.. but my programming skills are
terrible
<Sparky> I'm
trying to do robot farming.. but my programming skills are
terribleL414[13:18:55] <payonel> i'm a great
programmer, but my farming skills are terrible
L415[13:19:05] <Forecaster>
You'll get better
<Forecaster>
You'll get betterL416[13:19:09] <Forecaster>
Probably
<Forecaster>
ProbablyL417[13:19:50] <Sparky> I
may get better
<Sparky> I
may get betterL418[13:20:19] <Sparky> But
I'll stick with using other people's code
<Sparky> But
I'll stick with using other people's codeL419[13:21:43] <Forecaster>
Then you won't get better :P
<Forecaster>
Then you won't get better :PL420[13:22:46] ⇦
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L422[13:29:38] <Kodos> What's the name of
the coffee that's made with monkey shit
L423[13:30:52] <AmandaC> I don't remember,
but wasn't it cat shit after feeding tjem cofffee beans?
L424[13:31:06] <Kodos> No, it was monkey
shit after feeding them coffee beans I thought
L425[13:40:20] <Brisingr
Aerowing> It was Servals, a kind of feline.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> It was Servals, a kind of feline.L426[13:48:35] <Kodos> Oh, was it?
Interesting
L428[13:53:11] <Wuerfel_21>
local component = require("component")
<Wuerfel_21>
local component = require("component")L430[13:53:33] <Wuerfel_21>
at the top of your file
<Wuerfel_21>
at the top of your fileL431[13:53:59] <Sparky>
Sweet!
<Sparky>
Sweet!L432[13:54:28] <Sparky> I
looked at it.. and I immediately realized that A) I'm using a robot
and not a drone and B) It doesn't have navigation upgrade
<Sparky> I
looked at it.. and I immediately realized that A) I'm using a robot
and not a drone and B) It doesn't have navigation upgradeL433[13:54:39] <Sparky> How
do I run programs on a drone though?
<Sparky> How
do I run programs on a drone though?L434[13:55:13] <Wuerfel_21>
You need to program an EEPROM with the code on it
<Wuerfel_21>
You need to program an EEPROM with the code on itL435[13:55:53] <Molinko> ~w
custom os
<Molinko> ~w
custom osL436[13:55:53] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L437[13:56:05] <Molinko> ^
for drone related stuff
<Molinko> ^
for drone related stuffL438[13:56:38] <Molinko>
see "whats available" section
<Molinko>
see "whats available" sectionL439[13:59:40] <payonel> @sparky it's all
the same, drone or robot or microcontroller or computer with
openos
L440[14:00:11] <payonel> @sparky the rules
are all the same, the difference is: "some stuff has been
loaded by an operating system for your convenience", that
being openos
L441[14:00:33] <payonel> the only question
you need ask yourself is, "have i loaded openos or have i
not"
L442[14:02:20] <Pablu>
"Am I alive?" "What does it mean to be?"
<Pablu>
"Am I alive?" "What does it mean to be?"L443[14:02:41] <Pablu>
"Have I loaded OpenOs"
<Pablu>
"Have I loaded OpenOs"L444[14:02:45] <Pablu>
etc
<Pablu>
etcL445[14:02:46] <Sparky> so
I load it with the eeprom that has the program on it?
<Sparky> so
I load it with the eeprom that has the program on it?L446[14:03:02] <payonel> @sparky loading
openos is pretty intentional
L447[14:03:13] <payonel> you have to craft
the openos floppy disk
L448[14:03:31] <payonel> and either boot
with it, or install it to a hdd
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L450[14:07:21] <payonel> @sparky on your
drone - do you have a floppy disk drive with the openos floppy in
it? or do you have a hdd that you installed openos to?
L451[14:07:51] <payonel> sort of a trick
question, you can't put disk drives nor hdds on drones
L452[14:09:11] <Molinko>
@Sparky (On a computer loaded with OpenOS) create a new file with
your microcontroller program, save it, remove the Lua bios EEPROM
from computer, put a blank EEPROM in the computer, and run 'flash
myProgramName'
<Molinko>
@Sparky (On a computer loaded with OpenOS) create a new file with
your microcontroller program, save it, remove the Lua bios EEPROM
from computer, put a blank EEPROM in the computer, and run 'flash
myProgramName'L453[14:09:18] <Sparky> I
have the open OS on a computer hard drive, but I can't put a hard
drive in the drone
<Sparky> I
have the open OS on a computer hard drive, but I can't put a hard
drive in the droneL454[14:09:41] <Sparky>
OKAY!
<Sparky>
OKAY!L455[14:09:46] <Sparky> Got
it I understand
<Sparky> Got
it I understandL456[14:09:48] <payonel> @sparky correct,
that's how you know youre not running openos on a drone
L457[14:09:52] <Molinko>
@Sparky you cant put a disk drive in the drone. it was a trick
question
<Molinko>
@Sparky you cant put a disk drive in the drone. it was a trick
questionL458[14:09:53] <Sparky>
Flash program
<Sparky>
Flash programL459[14:10:02] <payonel> you can use
`flash`
L460[14:10:06] <payonel> you can also edit
the eeprom code directly
L461[14:10:11] <payonel> `edit
/dev/eeprom`
L462[14:10:28] <Molinko>
@payonel I ❤ that devfs btw
<Molinko>
@payonel I ❤ that devfs btwL463[14:10:33] <Molinko> o
sexy
<Molinko> o
sexyL464[14:10:41] *
payonel blushes
L465[14:10:46] <Molinko>
lol
<Molinko>
lolL466[14:10:51] <Molinko>
you minx you
<Molinko>
you minx youL467[14:11:35] <Molinko>
cat somethingsexy > /dev/eeprom
<Molinko>
cat somethingsexy > /dev/eepromL468[14:14:15] <Molinko>
@Sparky just a tip. If your program crashes on the microcontroller
(you'll see a flashing red light) use the analyzer to get the error
so we can help
<Molinko>
@Sparky just a tip. If your program crashes on the microcontroller
(you'll see a flashing red light) use the analyzer to get the error
so we can helpL469[14:17:09] <Molinko>
Hey @payonel I hear you have a tty patch in the works.. Can i take
peek somewhere?
<Molinko>
Hey @payonel I hear you have a tty patch in the works.. Can i take
peek somewhere?L470[14:18:47] <payonel> ah sure. it's
quite wip and i'm still playing with some ideas
L471[14:19:27] <AmandaC> tty patch? Other
than the escape code thing?
L472[14:23:31] <Molinko>
thx Id just like to get an idea of where its going. just curious is
all. Thx
<Molinko>
thx Id just like to get an idea of where its going. just curious is
all. ThxL473[14:25:23] <Sparky> I
got it! @Molinko it did crash!
<Sparky> I
got it! @Molinko it did crash!L474[14:26:00] <payonel> it's similar to
the current tty code, but will let me mess with the stream a bit
easier for things like edit and term api
L475[14:26:08] <payonel> @molinko https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/tmp2/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/tty.lua
L476[14:26:29] <payonel> the interesting
bit would be https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/tmp2/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/tty.lua#L71
L477[14:26:46] <payonel> and then on line
91, c:handle(name, char, code)
L478[14:26:58] <Sparky>
@Molinko "Attempt to Perform Arithmetic on Field 'y' (a nil
value)
<Sparky>
@Molinko "Attempt to Perform Arithmetic on Field 'y' (a nil
value)L479[14:27:06] <payonel> this being the
default cursor library: https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/tmp2/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/core/cursor.lua
L480[14:27:14] <Sparky> So
I understand what that means.. but I don't know how to fix it
<Sparky> So
I understand what that means.. but I don't know how to fix itL481[14:27:26] <payonel> a cursor need
only know how to move, update, echo, and handle
L482[14:27:36] <payonel> @sparky this
...
L483[14:27:43] <payonel> %lua return
y+1
L484[14:27:43] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt
to perform arithmetic on global 'y' (a nil value)
L485[14:27:52] <payonel> %lua return y,
type(y)
L486[14:27:52] <MichiBot> nil, nil
L487[14:29:41] <Sparky> i
FIXED IT
<Sparky> i
FIXED ITL488[14:29:47] <Sparky>
Capslock.. I fixed it
<Sparky>
Capslock.. I fixed itL489[14:30:03] <payonel> @molinko:
basically, i'm moving all blink, cursor movement, cursor input
buffer, event handling - to the cursor
L490[14:30:10] <payonel> the cursor in a
sense acts as the "host" layer
L491[14:30:17] <Sparky> It
was missing a waypoint
<Sparky> It
was missing a waypointL492[14:30:27] <payonel> this lets the tty
be a raw input/output stream manager
L493[14:30:41] <payonel> then, any
application (like edit) can define any custom cursor
L494[14:30:56] <payonel> or term for
horizontal reads
L495[14:31:07] <payonel> i've removed all
cursor logic out of tty
L496[14:31:22] <Molinko>
nice
<Molinko>
niceL497[14:33:05] <Molinko> Do
processes already have independent tty ?
<Molinko> Do
processes already have independent tty ?L498[14:33:27] <payonel> yes
L499[14:33:47] <payonel> but making a
custom tty isn't a straight forward api, because i haven't
committed to an api yet
L500[14:34:00] <payonel> though, wocchat
is already using it, so, i'm stuck :)
L501[14:34:15] <payonel> i dont want
wocchat to need 3 code paths, it already has 2
L502[14:34:23] <payonel> (for dealing with
term)
L503[14:34:41] <Molinko> i
see
<Molinko> i
seeL504[14:35:09] <payonel> anyways, there is
a term.internal.open which creates a new tty window
L505[14:35:17] <Molinko> i
remember
<Molinko> i
rememberL506[14:35:18] <Sparky>
Wait, why isn't my drone dropping off in a chest? Its just droppng
things on the chest
<Sparky>
Wait, why isn't my drone dropping off in a chest? Its just droppng
things on the chestL507[14:35:38] <Molinko>
@Sparky you require an inventory_controller component
<Molinko>
@Sparky you require an inventory_controller componentL508[14:36:06] <payonel> @sparky the
inventory_controller has a method you can use to move items between
inventories
L509[14:36:25] <Molinko> ~w
inventory_controller
<Molinko> ~w
inventory_controllerL510[14:36:25] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L511[14:37:13] <Sparky> I
just dropped a vacuum chest, easy enough
<Sparky> I
just dropped a vacuum chest, easy enoughL512[14:40:54] <Molinko>
@payonel so are you basically separating the tty 'driver' and 'line
discipline'?
<Molinko>
@payonel so are you basically separating the tty 'driver' and 'line
discipline'?L513[14:41:12] <Molinko>
maybe im reading too much into it :/
<Molinko>
maybe im reading too much into it :/L514[14:41:13] <payonel> i'm seperating
the cursor from tty
L515[14:41:16] <Molinko>
lol
<Molinko>
lolL516[14:41:30] <payonel> in the real
world, "cursor" is managed by the "host
application"
L517[14:41:36] <Sparky>
What bit of code can I add that will make the drone wait before
it's action cycle?
<Sparky>
What bit of code can I add that will make the drone wait before
it's action cycle?L518[14:41:42] <payonel> in openos, the
cursor will be an object defined by the host application
L519[14:41:59] <payonel> tty defaults to a
"vertical scrolling cursor input"
L520[14:42:31] <payonel> @sparky define
"action cycle" ? and when would you want it to start?
after n seconds? after an event?
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L522[14:43:35] <payonel> @molinko when
this is done, i should be able to write /bin/edit in terms of the
cursor
L523[14:43:53] <Sparky>
@payonel So my program cycles through waypoints, I was wondering if
I could give the drone a longer wait
<Sparky>
@payonel So my program cycles through waypoints, I was wondering if
I could give the drone a longer waitL524[14:44:09] <payonel> @sparky how much
longer?
L525[14:45:03] <Sparky> is
open computers tics or time?
<Sparky> is
open computers tics or time?L526[14:45:28] <Sparky> 1
minute or 1200 ticks
<Sparky> 1
minute or 1200 ticksL527[14:45:40] <payonel> @sparky our time
functions work in floating point seconds
L528[14:45:51] <payonel> so you could just
os.sleep(120)
L529[14:45:58] <Molinko>
0.05 being a single tick i belive
<Molinko>
0.05 being a single tick i beliveL530[14:46:03] <payonel> yes, 1/120
L531[14:46:05] <payonel> derp
L532[14:46:06] <payonel> 1/20
L533[14:46:16] <payonel> but we dont work
in ticks, we works in seconds
L534[14:48:31] <Molinko>
@payonel maybe the doc is just old but i dont think drones have the
os.sleep method..
<Molinko>
@payonel maybe the doc is just old but i dont think drones have the
os.sleep method..L535[14:48:49] <payonel> @molinko and for
those on the bleeding edge of memory usage, if you never call
io.read on the tty, you'll save a LOT of memory on boot
L536[14:49:28] <payonel> oh right, thanks
@molinko
L537[14:49:32] <Molinko>
not sure i follow
<Molinko>
not sure i followL538[14:49:34] <payonel>
computer.pullSignal(120)
L539[14:49:48] <payonel> @sparky ^
L540[14:49:56] <payonel> that'll wait for
120s (or until it receives a signal)
L541[14:50:13] <Molinko>
shove it in a repeat statement
<Molinko>
shove it in a repeat statementL542[14:50:28] <Molinko>
difftime that sucker
<Molinko>
difftime that suckerL543[14:51:03] ⇦
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L544[14:51:29] <payonel> @sparky if you
wanted something like os.sleep, this is how openos defines it:
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/boot/02_os.lua#L40
L545[14:51:42] <payonel> in place of
event.pull, just use computer.pullSignal
L546[14:51:46] <payonel> with the same
argument
L547[14:53:26] <payonel> @molinko if you
are loading openos, you load tty. the cursor library is only needed
for input -- and if you have a robot that never calls io.read (just
runs a script on boot) then it'll not need to load the cursor
library
L548[14:53:51] <payonel> that'll save a
lot of memory, probably a few k
L549[14:54:03] <payonel> for those who
push the mem usage, they'll care
L550[14:54:13] <Sparky>
@payonel Like this? function wait()
<Sparky>
@payonel Like this? function wait()L551[14:54:13] <Sparky>
computer.pullSignal(120)
<Sparky>
computer.pullSignal(120)L552[14:54:13] <Sparky>
end
<Sparky>
endL553[14:54:29] <payonel> right now (in my
personal dev builds with the new tty code) i'm booting with ~67k
free
L554[14:54:39] <payonel> @sparky yes
L555[14:55:10] <payonel> @sparky for
eeprom code, that's just fine. my sensibilities cringe at non local
functions, but it's fine :)
L556[14:56:28] <Molinko>
@payonel my balls retract when i see non local var
declarations
<Molinko>
@payonel my balls retract when i see non local var
declarationsL557[14:57:06] <payonel> @molinko not sure
if you follow the mem usage stats of openos versions, but the ram
allocated for boot in 1.5 was ~205k, 1.6 was 190k, 1.7 was 140k,
and 1.7.3 will maybe be 130k or maybe even 125k
L558[14:57:07] <Molinko>
What did you mean by not using io.read or pull while booting?
<Molinko>
What did you mean by not using io.read or pull while booting?L559[14:57:29] <payonel> @molinko when you
reach the shell, youre running an io.read for user input
L560[14:58:01] <payonel> if you run a
script that never calls read on the tty, then the cursor library
won't need to load
L561[14:58:02] <Molinko>
right. so any terminal is going to consume a lot of memory you're
saying?
<Molinko>
right. so any terminal is going to consume a lot of memory you're
saying?L562[14:58:09] <Molinko> ah
i see
<Molinko> ah
i seeL563[14:58:15] <payonel> well any terminal
is going to load the cursor lib
L564[14:58:20] <payonel> which i've now
(in dev) separated
L565[14:59:33] <Molinko>
thanks for the hints
<Molinko>
thanks for the hintsL566[14:59:38] <Molinko>
and the peep
<Molinko>
and the peepL567[15:29:43]
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L573[17:52:44] <Forecaster>
%jumble
<Forecaster>
%jumbleL574[17:52:44] <MichiBot> lib to the load
well cursor any terminal going is
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L582[21:32:38] <AmandaC> LIB TO THE LOAD
WELL!
L583[21:33:15] *
AmandaC slinks back off to the shadows, as she gets ready to turn
off the lights and halucinate for a few hours while being
paralyzed
L584[21:43:45] <S3> AmandaC: ACID is not
the answer
L585[21:46:28] <AmandaC> %search xkcd
hallucinate
L586[21:46:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Unknown
sub-command 'xkcd' (Try: google, curseForge, wiki, urban, ann,
youtube)
L587[21:48:00] <AmandaC> https://xkcd.com/203/
L588[21:48:01] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Hallucinations Posted on: 12/29/2006
L589[21:48:55] <AmandaC> Now: games, then:
hallucinate, later: odk, bears maybe?
L590[21:54:41] <S3> lol
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L593[22:07:37] <S3> fI just realized
something payonel ..
L594[22:07:46] <S3> load() will except a
function not just a source string.
L595[22:08:06] <S3> says so in the ref
manual
L596[22:08:14] <Izaya> lets you set the
env, IIRC
L597[22:08:52] <S3> well
L598[22:08:57] <S3> it's mroe
complicated
L599[22:09:05] <S3> the function you pass
it must provide a string of the lua code
L600[22:09:08] <S3> to chunk
L601[22:09:17] <S3> so you can pass it a
file reading iterator for example
L602[22:09:45] <S3> so it's not as great
as I thought it was
L603[22:10:11] <Izaya> oh, makes
sense
L604[22:10:41] <S3> so here's what I am
going to do
L605[22:10:43] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/img/amiga-3000ux.jpg
L606[22:11:05] <S3> neat
L607[22:11:11] <Molinko>
yum
<Molinko>
yumL608[22:11:38] <S3> I will make spawn()
take a string. for most processes you will load them from disk then
send it to spawn() to create a process from a strring
L609[22:11:48] <S3> a second function
exists called spawn_task()
L610[22:12:17] <S3> spawn_task differs
from spawn by accepting a function instead. it will create a
process from the function having a sandboxed environment of the
process that spawned it
L611[22:12:26] <S3> this allows you to do
something like:
L612[22:13:17] <Molinko>
maybe make spawn(proc) proc:string or function
<Molinko>
maybe make spawn(proc) proc:string or functionL613[22:13:22] <S3> local function
myreader(socket) dispatch(read(socket)) return myreader(socket)
end
L614[22:13:28] <S3> and then go
spawn_task(myreader)
L615[22:13:30] <Molinko>
like load is? keep it
<Molinko>
like load is? keep itL616[22:13:48] <S3> yes that's not a bad
idea
L617[22:14:09] <Molinko>
spawn could use load or or call spawn_task from within based on arg
type
<Molinko>
spawn could use load or or call spawn_task from within based on arg
typeL618[22:14:10] <S3> I reallyw ish I could
sandbox anonymous functions
L619[22:14:15] <Molinko>
mee too
<Molinko>
mee tooL620[22:14:16] <S3> because that'd be the
most ideal ever
L621[22:14:21] <Izaya> oh S3, I wrote the
docs for Microtel https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/blob/master/Embedded/microtel/README.md
L622[22:14:28] <S3> Izaya: yay!
L623[22:14:28] <Molinko>
sweeeeeeeeet
<Molinko>
sweeeeeeeeetL624[22:14:39] <Molinko> I
really do like it ❤
<Molinko> I
really do like it ❤L625[22:14:55] <Molinko> so
easy to use.... *swoon
<Molinko> so
easy to use.... *swoonL626[22:15:02] <S3> so you mention
reliability
L627[22:15:11] <S3> but OC networking is
lossless isnt it?
L628[22:15:16] <Molinko> i
need to re-test it.
<Molinko> i
need to re-test it.L629[22:15:30] <Molinko>
last time i did was when i msg'd you about tunnels
<Molinko>
last time i did was when i msg'd you about tunnelsL630[22:15:31] <Izaya> S3: in theory, but
not when you're routing via other machines
L631[22:15:35] <S3> when will packets ever
come out of order, etc
L632[22:15:38] <S3> I see
L633[22:15:51] <Izaya> once you have some
more development done I'll look into a proper port of Minitel for
your setup
L634[22:15:55] <S3> I suppose in
concurrency models like mine they may end up in strange
orders
L635[22:17:51] <Izaya> I do need to test
out flisten
L636[22:19:16] <Izaya> Not sure whether it
actually works, but it should in theory
L637[22:19:18] <Izaya> listen works
L638[22:30:25] <S3>
nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
L639[22:30:33] <S3> it says I'm missing an
end to my function
L640[22:30:38] <S3> says its the last line
of the file
L641[22:30:48] <S3> I hate thosse
L642[22:30:57] <S3> those kind of errors
are so damn hard to find sometimes
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L645[22:31:58] <S3> ... I see no
problem
L646[22:40:38] <S3> fixed.
L647[22:40:43] <S3> I had else if instead
of elsif
L648[22:40:51] <S3> elseif*
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L654[23:12:36] <Izaya> S3: you may find
this amusing https://lainchan.org/%CE%BB/res/41.html#7556
L655[23:43:31] <MichiBot> Saphire
REMINDER: Huh
L656[23:46:05] <Saphire> ...wait what was
that one about? D: