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L3[00:28:51] <Kodos> Pretty excited for EFab
L4[01:13:05] <payonel> efab?
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L6[01:21:35] <Izaya> payonel: https://shadowkat.net/img/minitel-rpc.mp4
L7[01:21:46] <Kodos> https://twitter.com/tfox83/status/972134830182772736
L8[01:21:47] <MichiBot> Fri Mar 09 09:39:39 CST 2018 @tfox83: And you wonder what I am crafting with in FTB Continuum?? Here is a teaser. No forced layout, designed and built h… https://t.co/PgW9BTsMIy
L9[01:21:58] <payonel> Izaya: :) yeah i watched that earlier :)
L10[01:22:07] <Izaya> :D
L11[01:22:48] <payonel> Kodos: huh
L12[01:23:20] <Kodos> Best part (imo) is it's a McJty mod
L13[01:23:23] <Kodos> So it'll be good
L14[01:25:39] <Izaya> I think I just need to do stuff with pinging and such
L15[01:25:48] <Izaya> then I can work on the microcontroller stack
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L18[01:37:06] <orz> heelo
L19[01:37:24] <orz> hello
L20[01:37:39] <Forecaster> hi
L21[01:38:51] <orz> I am playing minecraft
L22[01:39:04] <Forecaster> \o/
L23[01:39:30] <orz> !!!
L24[01:40:03] <orz> What are you doing?
L25[01:40:24] <Forecaster> Watching QI
L26[01:40:29] <Izaya> Playing ARK
L27[01:40:46] <orz> ARK?
L28[01:40:55] <Izaya> ARK: Survival Evolved
L29[01:41:01] <Izaya> Dinosaurs, supposedly in space.
L30[01:41:29] <Forecaster> it does not, however, feature dinosaurs in space-suits
L31[01:41:35] <Forecaster> I'm very disappointed
L32[01:42:13] <payonel> i'm fixing eeprom recrafting
L33[01:42:30] <Forecaster> so if I add a harddrive to my ubuntu server
L34[01:42:34] <Forecaster> what happens?
L35[01:42:43] <payonel> got it fixed, and now fixing robot's crafting recrafting with eeproms --- found why it wasn't popping the old eeprom back for you
L36[01:42:44] <orz> It's fun
L37[01:42:48] <Izaya> probably, nothing
L38[01:43:46] <orz> Are you in minecraft?
L39[01:44:07] <Forecaster> no
L40[01:44:40] <orz> Isn't this mod IRC?
L41[01:44:55] <Forecaster> what?
L42[01:45:05] <payonel> orz: you're connected to real life irc
L43[01:45:09] <payonel> we're all using different irc clients
L44[01:45:25] <Forecaster> or discord in my case
L45[01:45:38] <Forecaster> (which is relayed to/from irc via a bot)
L46[01:46:21] <orz> Oh
L47[01:47:54] <orz> I am not very good at English
L48[01:48:15] <orz> Pardon me
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L50[01:49:29] <orz> I am Chinese
L51[01:49:36] <orz> All right
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L58[01:57:41] <Forecaster> http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2018/03/10/puredick-computer-battery/
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L60[03:04:14] <Izaya> https://ia600309.us.archive.org/4/items/frenchtech1/frenchtech1.ogv
L61[03:34:41] <Forecaster> can I just link the log dir onto the new drive?
L62[03:35:31] <Izaya> ?
L63[03:35:54] <Forecaster> if I put a new harddrive into my server, what do I need to do to use it?
L64[03:36:07] <Izaya> depends
L65[03:36:09] <Forecaster> I have a spare 200something Gb drive lying around
L66[03:36:22] <Izaya> if you're running RAID, add it to the array, if you're not, format it and mount it somewhere
L67[03:36:26] <Forecaster> and the server has the issue that it's drive keeps filling up
L68[03:36:31] <Izaya> with btrfs you *can* RAID0 it but that's somewhat dangerous
L69[03:36:36] <Forecaster> I don't have a raid
L70[03:36:48] <Forecaster> it's just a computer with a single harddrive in it currently
L71[03:37:02] <Izaya> What keeps filling up?
L72[03:37:10] <Forecaster> logs mainly
L73[03:37:16] <Izaya> So that's /var?
L74[03:37:24] <Forecaster> yeah
L75[03:38:19] <Izaya> Alright, you'll want to take the system down, boot from another device, format the new drive, copy your /var to it, then add it to the /etc/fstab as /var
L76[03:39:04] <Izaya> also, use UUIDs
L77[03:40:09] <Forecaster> boot from another device?
L78[03:40:13] <Izaya> aye
L79[03:40:18] <Izaya> a live USB or something
L80[03:40:36] <Izaya> your system won't like you mounting another device over /var while it's running
L81[03:40:57] <Forecaster> can't you configure the log dir in some way?
L82[03:41:25] <Izaya> You could configure every program to log somewhere else, I guess.
L83[03:41:29] <Izaya> Have fun?
L84[03:42:06] <Forecaster> well, it's mainly system logs
L85[03:42:18] <Izaya> On ubuntu that'd be systemd...
L86[03:42:20] <Izaya> That
L87[03:42:25] <Izaya> s probably the one thing you can't move
L88[03:42:34] <Forecaster> well pooh
L89[03:42:51] <Forecaster> maybe I should just make a script clean up the logs
L90[03:43:25] <Izaya> Configure it to delete old logs?
L91[03:46:32] <payonel> Izaya: the only raid that is dangerous on btrfs is raid6
L92[03:46:45] <Izaya> payonel: oh, it's properly stable now?
L93[03:46:54] <Izaya> nice
L94[03:47:05] <Izaya> (raid 0 through 5 that is)
L95[03:47:08] <payonel> has been for years
L96[03:47:17] <Izaya> (considerations for each method aside)
L97[03:47:27] <Izaya> Huuuuh.
L98[03:48:24] <payonel> "for years" as in, at least 2
L99[03:48:39] <payonel> probably more, but i don't track it that closely
L100[03:48:44] <payonel> i use btrfs on my server
L101[03:48:50] <payonel> have for perhaps 4 years
L102[03:49:42] <Izaya> I use btrfs for / because snapshots and stuff
L103[03:49:48] <Izaya> the RAID is ext4 on mdadm though
L104[03:49:52] <Izaya> on md, I guess.
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L108[05:28:07] <Forecaster> hm
L109[05:28:16] <Forecaster> there's no way to get nbt data from an item is there
L110[05:32:46] <Kodos> Maybe a debug card checking a slot in a chest?
L111[05:32:54] <Forecaster> can't cheat
L112[05:39:40] <Forecaster> I want to read the fluid amount in an ic2 cell
L113[05:59:31] <Forecaster> payonel I need a way to do this >:
L114[05:59:55] <Forecaster> although, perhaps I should use vials instead...
L115[06:00:03] <Forecaster> but they are less compact
L116[06:06:24] <Inari> https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7B68ojthpBfNW0Su75z_Y_h-BBFhMsUaN1HYBpj-Rnc/http/puu.sh/zFevW/2526659e77.jpg
L117[06:06:46] <Inari> AmandaC: Them spoilers! :p
L118[06:06:56] <Forecaster> I love me some indie Lock Parsing
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L122[06:33:06] <Izaya> ~w computer
L123[06:33:06] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:computer
L124[06:36:12] <Izaya> ~w signals
L125[06:36:12] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
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L130[08:29:27] <AmandaC> Inari: wtf
L131[08:29:41] <AmandaC> 220$ dlc!?
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L134[08:44:49] <Inari> AmandaC: xD
L135[09:08:12] <AmandaC> @Forecaster so write a driver for ItemStack that inserts that info. :D
L136[09:21:39] * Izaya laughs manically
L137[09:21:53] <Izaya> I implemented layer 3 of minitel in 1.9k
L138[09:22:08] <Izaya> streams are more complicated but they're basically an addon anyway
L139[09:22:32] <Izaya> optional
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L144[13:06:09] <AmandaC> Izaya: meanwhile, I've severely over-complicated an urn wrapper around shell.parse
L145[13:07:07] <AmandaC> payonel: is there a shell method to get the active program? ( similar to argv[0])
L146[13:07:31] <Vexatos> shell method?
L147[13:07:36] <Vexatos> you mean function?
L148[13:07:45] <AmandaC> er, yeah, that
L149[13:07:51] <Vexatos> process.info
L150[13:12:13] <AmandaC> ah
L151[13:13:48] <payonel> os.getenv("_")
L152[13:13:55] <AmandaC> Whee: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/urn/lib/openos/shell.urn
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L155[13:42:57] <payonel> fingercomp: poke
L156[14:03:29] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: nice urn?
L157[14:03:54] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: ?
L158[14:04:04] <CompanionCube> looking at your urn code
L159[14:04:09] <AmandaC> That was the "severly over-complicated urn wrapper" I mentioned earlier
L160[14:04:16] <CompanionCube> yes
L161[14:04:27] <AmandaC> I wanted to toy with structs and such, so that came about. :P
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L163[14:09:17] <AmandaC> %choose try new or HnS
L164[14:09:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: HnS
L165[14:09:21] <AmandaC> Hrm.
L166[14:09:23] <AmandaC> Nah
L167[14:09:42] * AmandaC cuddles up, loads up Kokkoku E1
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L171[15:08:52] <Vexatos> In other news, OC 1.7.2 is out.
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L176[15:58:30] <logan2611> Yay
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L179[16:42:35] <Forecaster> There is already something that's cycling the logs into archives
L180[16:43:30] <Forecaster> I don't think it's something I've set up
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L185[17:12:02] <chernobyl> vexators
L186[17:12:08] <chernobyl> what does 1.7.2 add
L187[17:12:56] <Vexatos> +1 to version count
L188[17:14:02] <Vexatos> also electric sheep
L189[17:15:29] <Corded> * <Forecaster> wonders if vexatos dreams of them
L190[17:15:44] <Vexatos> they are electrostatic sheep
L191[17:15:46] <Vexatos> so not quite
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L193[17:28:33] <Inari> AmandaC: You're a dexterious cat right
L194[17:28:35] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYClkkcXcAEFxGq.png:large tailor me that
L195[17:41:15] <GCMC> Hello everyone
L196[17:41:18] <GCMC> also brb dinner
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L201[18:59:49] <AmandaC> %tell Inari okay, I clawed a 4 in a circle on your wall for you
L202[18:59:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L204[19:04:30] <payonel> @chernobyl https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/releases/tag/v1.7.2 see the release notes for to know what it adds
L205[19:08:38] <logan2611> Added: Creative Component Bus (Xyxen)
L206[19:08:44] <logan2611> Finally my RAID farm can become a reality
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L208[19:12:01] <Kodos> >Allows servers to support up to 1024 components
L209[19:12:02] <Kodos> Whyyyy
L210[19:12:26] <Kodos> That eliminates any sort of need for proper setup design
L211[19:12:49] <ben_mkiv> there was a mod where every block of a multiblock was a oc device, cant recall which one
L212[19:13:16] <ben_mkiv> device/component
L213[19:13:30] <Kodos> You mean Reika's terrible design choice for their mods?
L214[19:13:48] <ben_mkiv> im not sure, dont even know who reika is
L215[19:13:59] <Vexatos> Kodos, >creativer
L216[19:16:53] <payonel> Kodos: our compromise was that it is a creative component
L217[19:17:58] <payonel> ben_mkiv: rotary craft
L218[19:32:25] <chernobyl> payonel whats so terrible about rotarycraft
L219[19:33:38] <payonel> @chernobyl every block in that mods loads as a component
L220[19:33:53] <payonel> we've asked the dev to mark only blocks with an api to provide as a component
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L222[19:33:59] <chernobyl> lmfao
L223[19:34:13] <chernobyl> so any rotarycraft setup creates massive amonts of OC components
L224[19:34:16] <chernobyl> ...right
L225[19:34:17] <payonel> yes
L226[19:34:29] <payonel> our requests were ignored
L227[19:34:29] <chernobyl> reika is an idiot
L228[19:34:31] <chernobyl> woo
L229[19:36:38] <ben_mkiv> wouldnt say so, maybe he got no time yet
L230[19:36:56] <ben_mkiv> and that sounds like he added oc support somewhere on his blockbase class
L231[19:37:09] <chernobyl> never modify classes
L232[19:37:27] <chernobyl> unless you are ready for the insuing breakage of anything and everything that uses that class
L233[19:37:52] <ben_mkiv> every mod like this got its own block classes...
L234[19:38:04] <ben_mkiv> which extend the vanilla ones
L235[19:39:21] <chernobyl> if only OC was written in c#
L236[19:39:24] <Arcan> yeah he did something with blockbase class did reika
L237[19:39:29] <chernobyl> openos*
L238[19:39:38] <Arcan> i actually took advantage of the design stupid of rotarycraft once
L239[19:39:43] <Arcan> eww C#
L240[19:39:48] <chernobyl> C# is best language
L241[19:39:50] <chernobyl> gtfo
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L243[19:42:16] <chernobyl> arcan how did you take advantage ofi t
L244[19:43:38] <Arcan> by making my extractor controller program automatically pick up on the engines powering it
L245[19:44:15] <Vexatos> @chernobyl, payonel, RotaryCraft actually has a fix
L246[19:44:16] <Arcan> as long as you very carefully don't overrun the component limit
L247[19:44:19] <Vexatos> but it's commented out :⁾
L248[19:44:37] <Arcan> i've asked reika to fix it
L249[19:44:41] <Arcan> i'm on his teamspeak
L250[19:44:56] <Vexatos> Pls
L251[19:45:08] <Arcan> unfortunately
L252[19:45:13] <Arcan> even when you are on good terms
L253[19:45:17] <Arcan> one does not simply argue with reika
L254[19:45:20] <Arcan> it just doesn't work
L255[19:45:21] <chernobyl> lol
L256[19:45:47] <chernobyl> i wish installing your own mods didn't require twitch tomfuckery or any other external progrma
L257[19:45:50] <chernobyl> i wish installing your own mods didn't require twitch tomfuckery or any other external program [Edited]
L258[19:46:07] <Arcan> it doesn't?
L259[19:46:10] <Arcan> other than forge
L260[19:46:15] <Arcan> you can use the vanilla launcher
L261[19:46:30] <chernobyl> "We've detected you're using mods" >game instant-crashes
L262[19:46:31] <Arcan> multimc is better tho
L263[19:46:41] <Arcan> u wot
L264[19:47:00] <chernobyl> ree
L265[19:47:35] <Arcan> reika has the one redeeming quality
L266[19:47:39] <Arcan> of being cuddly
L267[19:47:50] <ben_mkiv> xD
L268[19:47:56] <Arcan> i'm dead serious
L269[19:48:28] <chernobyl> cuddliness is only good if the person who is cuddly is of the opposite sex
L270[19:48:29] <chernobyl> tbph
L271[19:48:48] <Arcan> nah i'll cuddle other males too
L272[19:49:09] <chernobyl> gayeeee
L273[19:49:16] <Arcan> yes ik
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L275[19:50:15] <CompanionCube> openos in C# sounds like a bad idea
L276[19:50:23] <CompanionCube> even if you did have a C# architecture in the first place.
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L278[19:52:48] <chernobyl> companion
L279[19:53:07] <chernobyl> how else would you write nested classes
L280[19:53:23] <CompanionCube> ....what
L281[19:53:54] <chernobyl> there are no classes in lua
L282[19:53:56] <chernobyl> gtfo
L283[19:54:44] <CompanionCube> There are no classes built into the language. People can and have just wrote their own OOP system without needing it as a language feature.
L284[19:55:31] <chernobyl> i am going to write ALL THE C# EMULATORS
L285[19:55:41] <Arcan> @cherynobyl that's what tables are for
L286[19:55:47] <chernobyl> Tables are garbage
L287[19:55:53] <Arcan> tables are amazing and you're a heretic
L288[19:56:13] * CompanionCube is an OOP fan and tables are perfectly fine.
L289[19:58:00] <ben_mkiv> lua is pretty cool except for the indexing at 1
L290[19:58:33] <chernobyl> and the security holes lol
L291[19:58:48] <ben_mkiv> well, indexing at 1 is also ok, at least for starters
L292[19:58:55] <CompanionCube> 'security holes' what?
L293[19:59:03] <chernobyl> COUGH
L294[19:59:05] <chernobyl> bytecode
L295[19:59:42] <CompanionCube> that just means lua bytecode is insecure
L296[19:59:50] <CompanionCube> the security hole isn't in the language itself
L297[20:00:06] <payonel> i was talking up lua to my coworkers
L298[20:00:49] <payonel> they asked, "so you think it's a great language?" i said, "it has limitations and flaws", "what flaws?", "two main things i don't like about it. 1. 1-based indexing, and-", "WHAT?!"
L299[20:00:51] <payonel> that was like a month ago
L300[20:00:57] <payonel> they still bring that up and give me a hard time about it
L301[20:01:03] <payonel> they never cared for another reason :)
L302[20:01:16] <ben_mkiv> yea but its stupid
L303[20:01:27] <ben_mkiv> for not looking at it because of the indexing
L304[20:01:36] <payonel> that's not why
L305[20:02:00] <Arcan> lua indexing is amazing but it has its quirks
L306[20:02:03] <payonel> ben_mkiv: with all due respect, these are full time professional developers
L307[20:02:16] <payonel> they investigate and study what they want to
L308[20:02:17] <Arcan> partly because you can index tables with any string
L309[20:02:24] <Arcan> not just ints
L310[20:02:31] <payonel> that doesn't mean they can't make fun of a language for its faults
L311[20:02:43] <payonel> they wouldn't "look at it" even if it had 0-based arrays
L312[20:03:11] <ben_mkiv> yea because they probably already got something that gets the job done fine
L313[20:03:37] <payonel> it's not so bleak as "something that gets the job done fine"
L314[20:03:48] <payonel> we have languages we have a passion for
L315[20:03:58] <payonel> i took my current job partially BECAUSE of the language
L316[20:04:11] <payonel> i only applied to jobs using tech i like and have a passion for
L317[20:04:28] <ben_mkiv> passion comes from the results you archived with it
L318[20:04:36] <ben_mkiv> i would never thought that i would like java in some way
L319[20:04:52] <ben_mkiv> xD
L320[20:11:02] * Arcan hugs @cherynobyl
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L328[21:15:10] <Kiritow> How to convert blockID to string type?
L329[21:15:53] <Kiritow> for example, to convert the return value from component.debug.getWorld().getBlockId(...)
L330[21:16:24] <Kiritow> transform 1 to "minecraft:stone"
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L338[22:10:48] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/E0GFPKb.png
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L344[23:00:33] <AmandaC> %tell Inari shush, I didn't accidentally get caught up on two series in one day, you did... B-baka!
L345[23:00:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L354[23:47:59] <Ristelle> ARRAYS STARTS FROM
L355[23:47:59] <Ristelle> ***__O N E__***
L356[23:48:47] <Ristelle> Of all the gripes in OC.. the main one is... Arrays starting from one
L357[23:50:08] <Ristelle> gamax92: if your still around, can I fit more set calls after 171 fill calls in a tick?
L358[23:54:06] <Izaya> Ristelle: you can do magic to start at zero
L359[23:55:40] <Ristelle> ? Magic?
L360[23:55:47] <Ristelle> oh
L361[23:55:58] <Ristelle> the Lua arrays XD
L362[23:56:45] <payonel> @Ristelle the array indexing is lua, not OC :P
L363[23:56:52] <Ristelle> I know
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