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L1[00:02:21] <chernobyl> is this a TIS-3D server now?
L2[00:03:18] <Izaya> Unless there's a #tis-3d on Esper, I guess so.
L3[00:03:52] * Izaya hmms
L4[00:04:05] <Izaya> There is not.
L5[00:25:34] <chernobyl> i want a machinecode implementation of OC
L6[00:25:52] <chernobyl> version rather
L7[00:48:17] <Izaya> Shiiiiit.
L8[00:48:29] <Izaya> That horrible grinding noise?
L9[00:48:34] <Izaya> Not the graphics card fan.
L10[00:48:44] <Izaya> That was a hard drive.
L11[00:57:17] <Forecaster> oh dear
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L17[01:51:08] <asie> Izaya: F
L18[01:51:37] <Izaya> F indeed
L19[01:51:44] <Izaya> hangs on 'verifying DMI Pool Data
L20[02:14:07] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7rjlx49
L21[02:14:09] <Forecaster> oh no I cracked it
L22[02:43:08] <Forecaster> it turns out to be tricky to generate short number-only hashes...
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L24[04:16:46] <Inari> Meow
L25[04:16:54] <Inari> AmandaC: What?
L26[04:26:44] <Inari> https://twitter.com/ItMeIRL/status/972415875000258561 haha
L27[04:26:45] <MichiBot> Sat Mar 10 04:16:25 CST 2018 @ItMeIRL: me irl https://t.co/klHXOW30yH https://t.co/LVjKTIh1Xw
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L29[04:33:34] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L30[05:33:36] <Inari> Vexatos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX2bixeWAAAqE8V.jpg :D
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L34[06:44:14] <SAL9000> Inari: http://i.imgur.com/64NBcaA.jpg
L35[06:44:54] <Inari> Nya?
L36[06:45:17] <SAL9000> panorama taken with a fisheye lens
L37[06:45:45] <Vexatos> I don't have a fisheye lens :I
L38[06:46:09] <Inari> But why ping me xD
L39[06:46:19] <SAL9000> in response to your sheared sheep image
L40[06:46:24] <Inari> Ah
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L42[06:46:26] <SAL9000> Vexatos: which camera(s) do you have?
L43[06:46:52] <AmandaC> Inari: https://twitter.com/icetsvu/status/972064472977244162?s=20
L44[06:46:54] <SAL9000> (or, to be specific, which lens mount)
L45[06:47:55] <Vexatos> SAL9000, crappy entry-level camera I got for christmas once :^)
L46[06:48:07] <SAL9000> ah.
L47[06:48:14] <Vexatos> I like taking photos but I don't have the money to really get invested in it
L48[06:48:21] <SAL9000> compact, bridge/superzoom, ILC?
L49[06:48:25] <Vexatos> Some €300 Canon or so
L50[06:48:33] <Vexatos> it has a proper lens but it's not swappable
L51[06:48:43] <SAL9000> bridge/superzoom then
L52[06:48:46] <Vexatos> ye
L53[06:48:59] <Vexatos> Has a proper flashlight which is nice
L54[06:49:04] <SAL9000> can't really fisheye those, unfortunately. some compacts have fisheye adapters
L55[06:49:23] <SAL9000> Samyang aka Rokinon aka... make some really nice elcheapo manual-focus fisheyes for almost all ILC mounts though
L56[06:49:37] <Vexatos> Also have my gran's (at the time) DM1600 Olympus camera, but I don't even remember which lens we have for that one
L57[06:50:10] <SAL9000> are you sure that model number is correct? google isn't finding it
L58[06:50:15] <Vexatos> not a model number
L59[06:50:17] <Vexatos> that's the price
L60[06:50:29] <SAL9000> oh
L61[06:50:31] <Vexatos> Deutsche Mark was the currency Germany used before the Euro came
L62[06:50:39] <Vexatos> so before 2001
L63[06:50:41] <SAL9000> right
L64[06:50:51] <Vexatos> Economically, it is roughly equivalent
L65[06:51:04] <Vexatos> so you can probably call it a $1900 or $2000 camera nowadays
L66[06:51:19] <SAL9000> my recent investment: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t20/
L67[06:51:39] <Vexatos> noone uses it since it obviously still uses real film
L68[06:51:51] <Vexatos> but damn it made some good photos >_<
L69[06:52:06] <Vexatos> now that's a cool-looking compact camera :I
L70[06:52:07] <SAL9000> some people still use real film, fwiw
L71[06:52:43] <Vexatos> yea but it's just not worth it
L72[06:52:54] <Vexatos> I am not making money with my photos so it's not really worth investing much in it
L73[06:53:13] <Vexatos> I take photos for fun and because you can impress people with cool-looking scenery, that's all :P
L74[06:53:48] <Vexatos> And I take snapshots when going on trips, or the zoo, or whatever, of course >_<
L75[06:53:59] <Vexatos> I am about as casual photography as you can get :I
L76[06:54:08] <Forecaster> you mean you don't use it to take selfies?
L77[06:54:12] <Vexatos> what no
L78[06:54:26] <Vexatos> Taking photos is one of the worst things you can do to me
L79[06:54:30] <Forecaster> I'm so dissapointed in you
L80[06:54:34] <asie> TODO: Take a photo of Vexatos
L81[06:54:40] <Vexatos> I'd rather be punched in the gut, thank you very much
L82[06:54:46] <asie> okay that works too
L83[06:55:01] <asie> TODO: Punch Vexatos in the gut #willneverbetakenoutofcontext #ever
L84[06:55:20] <AmandaC> Vexatos: but... You don't have a soul, so it's not like you'd lose it!
L85[06:55:51] <Vexatos> AmandaC, there are reasons for me being paranoid about that particular thing
L86[06:55:53] <Forecaster> maybe he'd gain one, then loose it
L87[06:56:11] <Vexatos> Always being the guy behind the camera already is one good way to have your family members not take photos of you
L88[06:56:54] <Vexatos> SAL9000, most of my photo equipment is hand-me-downs from my grandpa, like the tripod, shoulder mount, flashlight, etc :I
L89[06:57:02] <Vexatos> I don't really spend money on it :P
L90[06:57:16] <Vexatos> maybe if I ever get rich \:D/
L91[06:58:17] <AmandaC> Vexatos: fair enough
L92[06:58:45] <AmandaC> I guess I shouldn't mention the live streaming cameras I have hidden in your home then
L93[06:59:02] <Vexatos> all my good photos are taken in places I didn't take my tripod to it's so bad D:
L94[07:00:17] <Skye> I don't take photos
L95[07:00:19] <Skye> I record noises
L96[07:00:22] <Skye> train noises
L97[07:00:22] <Skye> :D
L98[07:00:33] <Izaya> can anyone recommend a cheap 720p or 1080p video camera that is easy to mount
L99[07:00:44] <Izaya> want to be able to record workbench stuff
L100[07:00:45] <Skye> RPi
L101[07:00:52] <Skye> an RPi with an RPi camera
L102[07:00:54] <Vexatos> all cams are equally easy to mount :I
L103[07:01:03] <Izaya> Vexatos: it is hard to mount a phone
L104[07:01:06] <Izaya> which is currently what I use
L105[07:01:11] <Vexatos> the screw is standardized, it depends on the tripod
L106[07:01:14] <Vexatos> o
L107[07:01:27] <Vexatos> well almost any camera has the standard tripod mount
L108[07:01:37] <Vexatos> even super cheap ones
L109[07:01:40] <Izaya> I think I remember using one at one point
L110[07:01:40] <Skye> my sound recorder has the standard tripod mount
L111[07:01:49] <Izaya> can you get things that aren't tripods?
L112[07:01:53] <Skye> I also bought a think that can put my phone in a tripod mount
L113[07:01:55] <Izaya> I want to like
L114[07:01:56] <AmandaC> There are phone clips you can get to use that screw
L115[07:01:58] <Izaya> attach it to a high shelf
L116[07:02:01] <Skye> you can get gorilla grips
L117[07:02:04] <Skye> which have...
L118[07:02:08] <Skye> the standard tripod mount
L119[07:02:11] <Izaya> AmandaC: would they exist for a less common phone from 2015?
L120[07:02:19] <AmandaC> Sure
L121[07:02:28] <Izaya> generics?
L122[07:02:38] <AmandaC> They're usually just an adjustable vice
L123[07:03:38] <Izaya> https://www.banggood.com/-p-928145.html point taken
L124[07:04:46] <Izaya> the trick is that I then need another vice thing to attach it to my shelf
L125[07:08:40] <Vexatos> thanks SAL9000 now I'm looking through them I am noticing how crappy my pictures actually are ,__,
L126[07:10:20] <SAL9000> Vexatos: ;(
L127[07:10:55] <Vexatos> Most of my photos are taken in places I couldn't take my tripod so they're blurry as heck unless I am lucky :I
L128[07:13:09] <SAL9000> so set a wider aperture or use a higher iso speed, and a faster shutter speed?
L129[07:13:39] <SAL9000> assuming you don't have OIS, you don't want to go slower than 1/60s (or maybe 1/100s)
L130[07:14:18] <Vexatos> my camera isn't that good, 1/60 makes the pictures _really really_ dark
L131[07:14:54] <Vexatos> eve on higher iso
L132[07:15:22] <Vexatos> It works if I am filming in bright daylight but that's not a thing that exists in Germany
L133[07:15:27] <Inari> AmandaC: weird
L134[07:15:54] <SAL9000> Vexatos: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fujifilm-X-T10-silber-Gehause-Body-Neu-Handler-DEMO-SOFORT-X-T-10-Fuji/382368576507 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fujifilm-X-T10-Gehause-Body-Neuware-vom-Fachhandler-XT10-schwarz/362181727963
L135[07:16:52] <SAL9000> previous model -- biggest downsides are lack of phase-detect autofocus and a higher risk of moire-like artifacts.
L136[07:20:04] <SAL9000> Vexatos: fair warning - the fuji x-mount is less-popular, which means that there are no third-party lenses with electronic connections (autofocus/aperture) available. On the other hand, with the shortest flange distance of any mirrorless camera, you can mount just about any DSLR APS-C lens using a 'dumb' adapter (no extra optics) and use it "as intended" (but no autofocus) without any changes to the focal
L137[07:20:05] <SAL9000> distance or other characteristics.
L138[07:20:22] <Vexatos> I am but a poor student right now
L139[07:21:03] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlYEDJHmokQ <3
L140[07:21:03] <MichiBot> No Game No Life - The Kings Plan (Official Soundtrack) | length: 2m 38s | Likes: 7,930 Dislikes: 82 Views: 1,000,074 | by iDarkHusky | Published On 31/10/2014
L141[07:21:11] <SAL9000> thus my links to 2nd-hand gear, in case you're interested.
L142[07:22:21] <Vexatos> I don't even think my current cam can do anything other than save to JPG
L143[07:22:29] <Skye> ew
L144[07:22:36] <SAL9000> :<
L145[07:22:36] <Vexatos> at least I haven't found any setting to make it save raw image data :I
L146[07:22:42] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L147[07:22:42] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with the year 2017. AmandaC recovers 1 health!
L148[07:23:10] <Inari> %give MichiBot a lovechild of chess and shogi
L149[07:23:11] * MichiBot accepts the lovechild of chess and shogi and adds it to her inventory
L150[07:23:20] <SAL9000> even some phones these days do RAW :< dangit canon
L151[07:23:38] <Vexatos> SAL9000, whoops just checked, canon was my sister's cam, I have the fujifilm finepix S2980 >_<
L152[07:24:30] <SAL9000> 28-504mm? yeah, definitely a superzoom
L153[07:24:36] <Vexatos> ye
L154[07:25:13] <SAL9000> no mention of RAW in the random review I found. :<
L155[07:26:06] <Vexatos> welp
L156[07:26:14] <Mimiru> Yeah... My new Canon doesn't have RAW either :(
L157[07:27:16] <SAL9000> Vexatos: apparently there's a filter thread adapter for your camera, which someone managed to stick a fisheye onto
L158[07:27:50] <SAL9000> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba4hS_qTr5o
L159[07:27:50] <MichiBot> Testing out the fujifilm finepix s2980 with fisheye and stabilizer | length: 4m 45s | Likes: 4 Dislikes: 0 Views: 1,160 | by Kyle BarnesYo | Published On 4/3/2014
L160[07:27:57] <AmandaC> I feel like I should lose health from that petting...
L161[07:28:12] <Inari> Haha
L162[07:29:31] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNU55aloKYU best song naming choices
L163[07:29:32] <MichiBot> No Game No Life | Soundtrack「Yes, My Master My Lord」| Jibril Character Song | length: 4m 48s | Likes: 4,190 Dislikes: 33 Views: 448,274 | by Gerardo Javier Lara Castellanos | Published On 27/2/2015
L164[07:29:45] <Izaya> is season 2 out yet
L165[07:29:52] <Inari> Nope
L166[07:29:57] <Inari> Seen NGNL Zero yet?
L167[07:30:04] <Izaya> Nope
L168[07:30:06] <AmandaC> Izaya: behold, babby's first macro: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/robot/bin/stdlib.fnl
L169[07:30:07] <Inari> You should
L170[07:30:09] <Inari> its great
L171[07:30:27] * Izaya squints
L172[07:30:32] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure because it'
L173[07:30:47] <Izaya> s lisp syntax with lua inside it but still looks p. weird
L174[07:30:51] <AmandaC> haha
L175[07:31:13] <AmandaC> I couldn't get it to accept the lua-syntax version, so I just made it emit a lua statement with the luastatment command
L176[07:31:17] <SAL9000> which language is that?
L177[07:31:20] <AmandaC> fennel
L178[07:31:30] <Vexatos> one of my hard drives is called fennel
L179[07:31:36] <Vexatos> it's my favourite herb for tea
L180[07:31:51] * Inari GETS AmandaC
L181[07:31:53] <Izaya> mostly unrelated is this okay as documentation https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/blob/master/FRequest/OpenOS/README.md
L182[07:32:21] <AmandaC> The lisp-syntax form would be something like (list (sym "local") lib (list (sym "require") lib)) but it kept throwing some insane errors
L183[07:32:48] <AmandaC> Because I didn't know how to make it quote the second "lib"
L184[07:32:58] <AmandaC> ( There's no quote or squote )
L185[07:33:07] <Vexatos> >not using selene
L186[07:33:16] <Izaya> '(?
L187[07:33:35] <AmandaC> Izaya: fennel doesn't seem to support that syntax, nor the 'symbol syntaxx
L188[07:33:38] <Skye> Izaya, last line, use the code block instead of italics
L189[07:34:24] <Izaya> ah yes
L190[07:34:28] <AmandaC> AIUI '(foo bar) is the same as (list foo bar), anyway
L191[07:34:57] <SAL9000> in Lisp, '(foo bar) is equivalent to (list foo bar) unless you try to modify it in-place
L192[07:35:02] <SAL9000> in which case the former has some gotchas
L193[07:35:17] <SAL9000> `(foo bar) is also the same, except you can do `(foo ,bar) to get the value of bar rather than the symbol bar
L194[07:35:26] <SAL9000> `(foo ,(+ 2 2)) => '(foo 4)
L195[07:35:27] <SAL9000> etc.
L196[07:35:35] <AmandaC> "modify it in-place" how
L197[07:35:58] <Izaya> been working on OpenOS docs for stuff
L198[07:36:03] <SAL9000> (let ((lst '(2 3))) (setf (car lst) 4) lst) ;; '(4 3)
L199[07:36:34] <SAL9000> the setf is very CL-specific though, you might need to (setcar lst 4) instead or similar
L200[07:38:18] <Izaya> I also need to write a proper program for managing mail
L201[07:39:20] <Skye> mailman? :P
L202[07:40:04] <Izaya> whatever the mail command on unix does
L203[07:40:10] <Inari> %give MichiBot a para-capacity measurement device
L204[07:40:10] * MichiBot accepts the para-capacity measurement device and adds it to her inventory
L205[07:41:41] <SAL9000> a program for managing mail? *points to emacs*
L206[07:42:04] <Izaya> SAL9000: I'd say that that's more like either "A command for *" or a lisp interpreter
L207[07:42:33] <SAL9000> "Emacs is a great operating system - it just needs a good text editor"
L208[07:42:44] <Izaya> There's a vim port nowdays
L209[07:42:51] <SAL9000> yeah, 'evil'
L210[07:43:00] <SAL9000> (Emacs VI emulation Layer)
L211[07:47:50] <Inari> Aw
L212[07:47:57] <Inari> Was going to make a joke on Vi, but seems Vi left #oc
L213[07:47:58] <Inari> :p
L214[07:48:17] <Skye> aw...
L215[07:48:27] <Inari> %pet Skye
L216[07:48:28] * MichiBot pets Skye with Arcan's short-term memory. Skye recovers 4 health!
L217[07:48:29] * Skye cuddles Vu`iku :p
L218[07:48:48] <Inari> Vu`iku?
L219[07:49:25] <Skye> one of Vic's old nicks
L220[07:51:03] <Inari> Hrm meh
L221[07:51:15] <Inari> I wanna ply more Stationeers but the prospect of mining a lot just doesn't seem very fun :P
L222[07:54:49] <Forecaster> yer gonna have to ply something else then :P
L223[07:57:49] * Lizzy is waiting for Surviving Mars to unlock/release
L224[07:59:42] <Izaya> That looks v. fancy
L225[07:59:47] <Izaya> something I might even enjoy
L226[08:00:29] <Lizzy> yeah, it looks promising
L227[08:00:46] <Izaya> I wish the new AoE game didn't require Windows 10
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L229[08:01:27] <Izaya> On the upside, it's the one worthwhile game on the Windows 10 store so I guess when they force everyone to use it it won't matter so much
L230[08:01:33] <Lizzy> and from what i've seen of some youtube playthroughs it's pretty solid ( i mean, it's paradox interactive so it's gonna be good)
L231[08:01:40] <Izaya> There'll then be at least one game to play on there
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L233[08:05:11] <Inari> Hm another example of why I don't like mmagical devices in games. Stationeers has airlocks, you can force them open with a crowbar. And close them again with one. Or of course you can power them and use the control padd o ntheir side to open/close it. Or you can have them controlled by an airlock controller.
L234[08:05:46] <Inari> Now the airlock controller takes two doors, a gas sensor, and a vent and controls those, allowing you to cycle the airlock to pressurize/unpressurize it and such
L235[08:06:38] <Inari> Issue 1: since the airlock controller is magical you can have some issue if you don't have much of an atmosphere in your base yet. I think it consider >100 kPa as pressurized
L236[08:06:46] <Inari> So you can get stuck in pressurizing, which you can cancel though
L237[08:06:53] <Inari> That is, if you're inside the airlock when it happens
L238[08:07:25] <Inari> That you can actually de-magify, by building a circuit for it, instead of using the normal provided one though I'm not sure how advanced you can make that, ahven't tried yet
L239[08:08:07] <Inari> Issue 2: While the airlocks are locked by the controller you can't pry them open anymore, so if you're outside the airlock while it tries to pressurize, tough luck. The game notes "CAn't force airlock openw hile bolts are locked" which makes sense
L240[08:08:12] <Inari> But the airlock has a keypad
L241[08:08:39] <SAL9000> Inari: there was a video somewhere demonstrating how to make a non-magical airlock controller
L242[08:08:42] <Inari> Now if that was all less magical I could write the program for that keypad, and create the electronics of the airlock to incorporate a way for me to override the controllers control
L243[08:09:34] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX7rTgoWAAEgM5A.jpg:small cute clothes :heart:
L244[08:09:44] <Inari> Hm
L245[08:09:52] <Inari> :heart: transferred to the Discord bridge fine, but doesn't work on IRC :D
L246[08:10:14] <SAL9000> you could make a clientside thing to translate :heart: into unicode or whatever
L247[08:10:26] <Inari> Sure
L248[08:10:32] <Inari> But thats up to each client to support
L249[08:10:39] <Inari> Can't change other peoples clients
L250[08:10:46] <SAL9000> yeah
L251[08:10:50] <Lizzian> ❤
L252[08:10:58] <Vexatos> Inari, https://github.com/salty-horse/ibus-uniemoji
L253[08:11:02] <Lizzian> going discord -> irc works
L254[08:11:05] <Inari> SAL9000: My primary issue with non-magical airlocks is that they can't have the same functioanlity as we can't have custom screen programs
L255[08:11:15] <Vexatos> It's ?
L256[08:11:18] <Vexatos> :^)
L257[08:11:23] <Inari> Haha, nice
L258[08:11:36] <SAL9000> :P
L259[08:11:41] <Inari> Vexatos: Does it work on Windows though? :p
L260[08:11:54] <Vexatos> Does windows even have proper IME engines ._.
L261[08:12:00] <Inari> No clue
L262[08:12:03] <Inari> Japanese seems to work?
L263[08:12:20] <Vexatos> Windows has its own IMEs for real languages
L264[08:12:27] <Vexatos> I am talking about an engine for custom IMEs
L265[08:12:38] <Inari> :p
L266[08:12:41] <Vexatos> Like, I have an IME for IPA as well
L267[08:12:42] <Inari> No clue
L268[08:13:15] <SAL9000> Vexatos: windows doesn't have the Compose key :P
L269[08:13:25] <Arcan> MichiBot where did you get that
L270[08:13:27] <Vexatos> how is that related, SAL9000 >_>
L271[08:13:27] <Inari> It can have a com#pose key
L272[08:13:45] <Inari> https://github.com/samhocevar/wincompose :D
L273[08:14:07] <SAL9000> because of my assumption that one of the best ways to input IPA and similar accent-heavy alphabets would be a universal deadkey
L274[08:14:21] <SAL9000> (there's not enough keys on a keyboard to have dedicated deadkeys for all of IPA...right?)
L275[08:14:27] <Vexatos> IPA is not an accent-heavy alphabet it actually uses custom characters
L276[08:14:54] <Inari> Can't you install a custom language into windows
L277[08:15:06] <SAL9000> I *think* you can install custom keyboard layouts
L278[08:15:23] <Inari> You can
L279[08:15:33] <Inari> Thats why I can write äöü in English layout
L280[08:15:34] <Inari> \o/
L281[08:16:16] <Inari> Been too lazy to map ß so far though
L282[08:16:26] <SAL9000> compose + s + s = ß
L283[08:16:38] <Inari> And sometimes Windows ddecides to switch from my custom layout to the normal English one
L284[08:16:43] <Inari> No clue why
L285[08:16:55] <SAL9000> maybe you have the per-window layout mode enabled?
L286[08:17:09] <Inari> Nah, it generally stays the same
L287[08:17:27] <Inari> Where do I see if I have that enabled? :P
L288[08:17:50] <SAL9000> W7 or W10?
L289[08:18:50] <Inari> W10
L290[08:19:50] <SAL9000> click on the language selector -> preferences -> additional date&time settings -> change input methods -> advanced settings
L291[08:20:00] <SAL9000> "let me set a different input method for each app window"
L292[08:20:13] <SAL9000> Inari: ^
L293[08:20:24] <Inari> Ah, thats turned off
L294[08:20:58] <Inari> My current hypothesis is that some software, for whatever reason, doesn't support custom layouts. So windows switches to the standard one for it and doesn't switch back again for others
L295[08:20:59] <Inari> Or something
L296[08:22:20] <SAL9000> sounds like something windows would do
L297[08:27:36] <Inari> SAL9000: Whys there a guy behind the warning btw
L298[08:27:48] <SAL9000> ???
L299[08:28:16] <Inari> In that panorama pic
L300[08:33:51] <SAL9000> oh
L301[08:34:01] <SAL9000> no idea
L302[08:34:10] <Inari> At first I thought thats why you had linked it
L303[08:34:11] <Inari> :p
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L305[09:19:01] <AmandaC> urn is.. weird
L306[09:19:18] <AmandaC> It'd probably feel more natual for a native lisp-er, though
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L308[09:48:22] <Inari> %give MichiBot AmandaC's urn
L309[09:48:22] * MichiBot accepts AmandaC's urn and adds it to her inventory
L310[09:49:48] <payonel> i figured out why you can't replace (recraft) the drone and robot with an eeprom in 1.12
L311[09:50:01] <payonel> but you can with the uC
L312[09:50:26] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L313[09:50:26] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with Arcan's short-term memory. AmandaC recovers 2 health!
L314[09:50:31] <Inari> xDD
L315[09:50:39] <Inari> MichiBot is on point
L316[09:51:19] <payonel> in 1.12, the recipe search algorithm added a check for "hasName", things with names can't craft items
L317[09:51:24] <Arcan> o.o did i give you that MichiBot
L318[09:51:50] <payonel> although they can, in a horribly convoluted way -- (if they can be damaged, but aren't, and have a max stack of 1)
L319[09:52:03] <Inari> Arcan: Would be appropriate
L320[09:52:05] <Inari> %inv list
L321[09:52:05] <MichiBot> Inari: Here's my inventory: http://localhost/inventory
L322[09:52:10] <Inari> Oh right
L323[09:52:13] <Inari> Thats still borked
L324[09:52:19] <payonel> Arcan: did you forget giving it? :)
L325[09:52:57] <Arcan> yes
L326[09:55:23] <AmandaC> Inari: eos.pc-logix.com:9082/inventory
L327[09:55:54] <Inari> Seems ARcan gave it to MichiBot, yeah
L328[09:56:16] <Arcan> maybe i was feeling especially forgetful that day
L329[09:56:22] <Arcan> i'm always forgetful though
L330[09:57:13] <Inari> %pet Arcan
L331[09:57:13] * MichiBot brushes Arcan with a cute girl engine. Arcan recovers 1 health!
L332[09:57:32] * Arcan purrrs
L333[10:06:51] * Inari is bored again
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L335[10:07:44] <Inari> At least tonight I'll have some work stuff to do
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L337[10:26:27] * Arcan wants to snug inari
L338[10:26:39] <Inari> o.o
L339[10:26:59] <Skye> Arcan is a cuddly dragon
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L341[10:27:50] <Arcan> ^ what Skye said, Inari
L342[10:28:45] <Inari> Theres only one person I'd "snug" with :P
L343[10:29:05] <Skye> how lewd
L344[10:29:14] <Skye> what about boring hugs
L345[10:29:17] <Skye> not "hug"
L346[10:29:21] <Skye> actual sfw hugs
L347[10:29:21] <Skye> :P
L348[10:29:38] <Mimiru> yeah I'm not 100% sure WHY it's still broken ._.
L349[10:29:43] <Inari> Well I didn't mean nsfw "snug" just wasn't sure what exactly was meant, assumed snuggles or something like that
L350[10:29:50] <Mimiru> the vhost doesn't exist but MichiBot should still show the right URL
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L352[10:30:13] <Inari> %code
L353[10:30:16] <Inari> %source
L354[10:30:17] <MichiBot> Inari: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L355[10:32:01] <Inari> I don't see how it even shows anything :D
L356[10:32:23] <SAL9000> here I thought Saphire was the cuddly dragon around here
L357[10:33:01] <Mimiru> Config.httpdBaseDomain Inari
L358[10:33:11] <Inari> Yeah
L359[10:33:16] <Inari> but it never seems to even assign that?
L360[10:33:48] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/httpd/httpd.java#L49
L361[10:33:51] <AmandaC> payonel: uh... for some reason ocvm isn't handling keys correctly for me
L362[10:34:14] <Mimiru> but it's acting like it's not getting the value from the config... which :/ I don't get.
L363[10:34:21] <AmandaC> payonel: press up-arrow, get OA printed
L364[10:34:23] <Inari> Mimiru: That just outputs it though?
L365[10:34:29] <Mimiru> No.. it doesn't?
L366[10:34:44] <Inari> What does log.info do then
L367[10:34:46] <Inari> I'm confused :D
L368[10:34:55] <Mimiru> Oh shit
L369[10:34:58] <Mimiru> I grabbed the wrong URL
L370[10:35:27] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/Config.java#L105 fuckin github had the old URL in the box..
L371[10:35:41] <Inari> I see
L372[10:35:52] <Inari> I just don't see how it's even outputting that part
L373[10:36:29] <Mimiru> the inventory module gets the baseURL from the config when you issue a command that needs it
L374[10:36:34] <Inari> Inventory.java seems to call httpd.getBaseDomain, which returns the baseDomain var of httpd class. I can't find that being set anywhere
L375[10:36:43] <Skye> SAL9000, we can have two cuddly dragons
L376[10:36:50] * Skye cuddles Saphire are Arcan
L377[10:36:52] <Mimiru> the httpd class gets it from the config class directly
L378[10:36:57] <Inari> But where
L379[10:37:01] * Arcan snugs
L380[10:37:16] <Inari> getBasedomain is just return baseDomain;
L381[10:37:32] <Mimiru> and baseDomain is set here
L382[10:37:33] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/httpd/httpd.java#L57
L383[10:38:11] <Inari> Ah, Github search betrayed me, I didn't seem to be able to find any call to setBaseDomain earlier
L384[10:38:16] <Mimiru> yes, the inventory class could get it directly from the config, but it doesn't and it normally works fine.. I think the config may be junk.
L385[10:38:36] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/IRCBot.java#L161
L386[10:39:13] <Inari> Yeah found that now
L387[10:39:26] <Mimiru> %restart
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L389[10:39:36] <Inari> I just searched for basedomain earlier, thinking Github search is lax enough to include setBaseDomain in that
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L392[10:39:59] <Mimiru> %inv list
L393[10:40:39] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L394[10:41:00] <Mimiru> the config was wrong in this case.
L395[10:41:01] <Inari> \o/
L396[10:41:02] <Inari> You fixed it
L397[10:41:10] <Inari> What was wrong? xD
L398[10:41:43] <Mimiru> for some reason the config key was named BaseDomain instead of httpdBaseDomain
L399[10:43:06] <Inari> That works
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L403[11:33:23] <Lizzian> huh
L404[11:36:01] <Vexatos> nice
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L409[11:48:42] <payonel> AmandaC: up-arrow with ocvm. what terminal shell are you using?
L410[11:48:46] <payonel> what host?
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L415[11:51:34] <AmandaC> payonel: I'll get back to you in a bit, Comcast is being Comcast so I'm waiting for them to call do I can get this new modem going
L416[11:51:50] <payonel> ok, cool
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L418[12:19:21] <AmandaC> payonel: okay, terminal shell? happens with gnome-terminal and Terminology, as well as under screen. The host distro is Pop! OS
L419[12:19:38] <payonel> has it worked before?
L420[12:19:43] <payonel> i also use gnome-terminal, fwiw
L421[12:19:45] <payonel> but ubuntu
L422[12:19:55] <AmandaC> I havn't used it under Pop! OS yet, so I'm not sure tbh
L423[12:20:01] <payonel> ok
L424[12:20:19] <AmandaC> Mouse movements also spam the screen with gobblygook too, if that helps
L425[12:20:34] <payonel> if my kb driver gets a sym code sequence it doesn't understand, it prints it raw to the screen
L426[12:20:52] <payonel> yeah...sounds like you have a different sym code mapping
L427[12:20:59] <payonel> which if ocvm was smart -- it would use terminfo
L428[12:21:10] <payonel> which is was things like ncurses does
L429[12:21:15] <payonel> do*
L430[12:22:34] <payonel> AmandaC: so .... sadly, it's PROBABLY not going to work unless i add terminfo support
L431[12:23:42] <payonel> though, different sym code sequences....that's extra weird to me
L432[12:23:46] <payonel> can i take that back?
L433[12:23:52] <payonel> let's pretend i didn't say most of this
L434[12:24:04] <AmandaC> haha
L435[12:24:20] <payonel> i think sym codes are not controlled by the terminfo, i think that happens before that level
L436[12:24:31] <payonel> it's curious
L437[12:24:44] <payonel> do you have a strange keyboard?
L438[12:24:46] <payonel> :)
L439[12:25:17] <AmandaC> No different than the one I had under openSUSE
L440[12:25:22] <AmandaC> just distro-hopped
L441[12:25:53] <AmandaC> lemme check my language settings, maybe I chose the wrong layout somehow
L442[12:27:35] <AmandaC> nope, all looks good there.
L443[12:28:44] <payonel> AmandaC: can you run `sed -n l`
L444[12:28:50] <payonel> then press up-arrow, enter
L445[12:29:00] <payonel> and ^d to close it
L446[12:29:06] <payonel> tell me what you see printed
L447[12:29:26] <AmandaC> payonel: ... I'm not sure why, but it seems powershell is fucking with it somehow
L448[12:29:41] <AmandaC> I just tried `gnome-terminal -- bash` from gnome-shell and it's not exhibitiing the issue
L449[12:30:34] <AmandaC> `sed -n l` prints `^[OA
L450[12:30:46] <AmandaC> `sed -n l` prints `^[OA`
L451[12:34:07] <payonel> yeah that's a bit unusual to me
L452[12:34:11] <payonel> ^[[A is up
L453[12:34:38] <payonel> that's why ocvm raw-prints your 0A
L454[12:34:48] <payonel> AmandaC: i could write a calibration tool for ocvm :)
L455[12:35:05] <payonel> but, not today... :)
L456[12:35:41] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/50D1zXn.jpg
L457[12:37:46] <AmandaC> In other news, new modem: http://www.speedtest.net/result/7128283264.png
L458[12:37:49] <AmandaC> ( Over wifi )
L459[12:38:13] <AmandaC> Old modem ( Also over wifi) http://www.speedtest.net/result/7118794964.png
L460[12:38:13] <Inari> Temia: https://i.imgur.com/W6iSmT5.jpg :v
L461[12:40:21] <payonel> Inari: hahahaha
L462[12:40:23] <payonel> so good
L463[12:40:55] <payonel> wow, what is that first on from ... :/
L464[12:41:19] <Inari> No clue
L465[12:41:25] <Inari> Some old children's book presumably
L466[12:41:29] <Inari> Given how they are dressed
L467[12:43:56] <Inari> payonel: https://imgur.com/gallery/Y9DiG
L468[12:44:55] <AmandaC> payonel: so. powershell must be emitting something that causes the terminal emulator to switch what's emitted
L469[12:45:21] <payonel> AmandaC: rude
L470[12:45:30] <AmandaC> payonel: `gnome-terminal -- bash` -> `sed -n l` prints `^]]A` -- run pwsh, exit pwsh, `^]OA`
L471[12:46:13] <payonel> Inari: o_O
L472[12:58:28] <Inari> AmandaC: I wanna know what bath salts they used in Slow Start
L473[13:04:04] <Temia> o^o
L474[13:04:18] * Temia hides behind Amanda
L475[13:05:22] <Inari> Nekopara OVA 4.5 GB :|
L476[13:05:46] <AmandaC> payonel: figured it out.
L477[13:08:03] <AmandaC> payonel: the keycodes are changed when the 'keypad' / 'application' mode is activated
L478[13:08:32] <AmandaC> ( which powershell does because it's more compatible with how consoles work in windows )
L479[13:19:45] <AmandaC> Just added `tput 'rmkx'` to my ~/.local/bin/ocvm script and it's all working. :P
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L483[14:31:01] <AmandaC> %choose anime or not now
L484[14:31:01] <MichiBot> AmandaC: anime
L485[14:31:06] <AmandaC> hrm, sounds good
L486[14:39:16] <payonel> AmandaC: good find (re: rmkx)
L487[14:39:25] <payonel> and yes, i would "know" this if i read the terminfo db
L488[14:39:32] <payonel> interesting
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L490[14:40:13] <payonel> tbh, key codes, sym code sequences, terminal emulation and keyboard drivers ....
L491[14:40:21] <payonel> it's all FAR more complex than i ever realized
L492[14:40:36] <payonel> and i would say 95% i know now is because of the work i did making ocvm
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L496[15:24:16] <Mimiru> %dnsbllist
L497[15:24:21] * Mimiru sighs
L498[15:24:26] <Mimiru> %listdnsbl
L499[15:24:26] <MichiBot> Mimiru: zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net, dnsbl.dronebl.org, cbl.abuseat.org
L500[15:24:36] <Mimiru> %remdnsbl cbl.abuseat.org
L501[15:24:37] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Removed cbl.abuseat.org
L502[15:28:35] <Inari> Bad lists?
L503[15:34:27] * Mimiru shrugs
L504[15:44:11] <Inari> Must be some reason you remove it :D
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L506[16:34:08] <Inari> AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/Oyz71UI
L507[16:34:56] <AmandaC> Inari: that top comment "I used to love rubber duckies back when I was a cat"
L508[16:35:10] <Inari> xD
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L510[17:31:28] <MichiBot> Timed ban of SAL9000 Expired. Placed by: DNSBL Check
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L512[17:31:46] <Skye> O_O
L513[17:32:27] <Skye> Michiyo, wasn't SAL9000 already here ages ago or something
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L515[17:43:12] <Mimiru> Skye yeah it’s almost like I deleted the dnsbl that caused the ban for a reason! Crazy huh.
L516[17:45:25] <Skye> oh
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L519[18:38:30] <Metafield> I'm in school and this entire week has been CLI based stuff and a lot of node REPL. I've made so many programs in open computers through messing around with drones and such that it is like second nature now, so thanks for making this awesome mod, it really helped.
L520[18:53:06] <CompanionCube> yay
L521[18:58:38] <Izaya> muahahahaha
L522[18:58:45] <Izaya> RPC is now a thing I have.
L523[18:59:14] <Izaya> Admittedly, it presently lacks any authentication, but I can remotely run code over minitel
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L527[19:10:49] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/kpjnkq.mp4
L528[19:11:42] <Izaya> Skye: ^
L529[19:13:14] <Skye> Izaya: muhahahahahah
L530[19:13:25] <Skye> Time for miniauth
L531[19:13:28] <Skye> :p
L532[19:13:31] <Izaya> Yeah...
L533[19:13:39] <Izaya> I was going to use that sha256 lib I used for PsychOS
L534[19:13:45] <Izaya> but that's like 5k of code
L535[19:13:56] <Izaya> it's bigger than the rest of minitel put together
L536[19:15:45] <Izaya> oh
L537[19:15:55] <Izaya> okay well it's about half the size of everything else
L538[19:16:56] <Skye> Izaya: try a different algorithm
L539[19:17:05] <Skye> IIRC SHA-3 is simpler
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L544[21:13:30] <AmandaC> %tell Inari verdict: it's good, be ready for a feels train though
L545[21:13:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L547[21:28:03] <S3> kitties are weird
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L550[22:03:13] <Brisingr Aerowing> I've decided to put my villager sorter program on hold and work on a Moo Fluids sorter instead, and I need ideas for plugins for it (Plugins are called when a fluid cow is accepted or rejected and does things based on that. They can also change the accept / reject status, so rejecting cows if you have over a certain number is possible). I currently have an RFTools Teleporter plugin planned, which will dial a Matter Transmitter to a Rec
L551[22:03:14] <Brisingr Aerowing> listed in the config for the fluid, or the reject receiver if the cow is rejected. It will check that at least one plugin handles any individual fluid, if no plugins handle an accepted fluid, the program will halt (this will be checked on startup).
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L553[22:10:15] <ben_mkiv> where do the cows come from? babys?
L554[22:10:46] <ben_mkiv> also had quite some fun with draconic evolution portals and enderio telepad (not sure if later one can teleport mobs)
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L557[23:48:10] <Brisingr Aerowing> Doesn't matter where they come from. This just takes the output and sorts it. I usually use an Industrial Foregoing Mob Duplicator (the rejects can go to mob crushers to produce essence, which can be piped back to the duplicator to fuel it). I've also added a redstone plugin for using regular / bundled redstone to handle sending the cows to the right places.
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