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L5[00:50:19] <payonel> Izaya: i do not have
support for 0x8D, what the use case?
L6[00:51:03] <payonel> ben_mkiv: your lua
code will run until the lua thread uses up its execution time
L7[00:52:13] <payonel> Izaya: ocvm does have
networking
L8[00:52:26] <payonel> but ocvm is bad at
adding new components to existing vms
L9[00:52:46] <payonel> if you make a new vm,
it'll have a network card
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L13[01:03:48] <ben_mkiv> payonel. ty. so
can i assume that it runs at least one command each tick, but also
could run more than one each tick?
L14[01:04:12] <ben_mkiv> or could the
thread be canceled without even starting to interpret lua
stuff?
L15[01:04:36] *
ben_mkiv just tries to understand timing of oc a bit, without
reading through all the code :>
L16[01:07:42] <payonel> if the server skips
ticks because it is behind then the oc threads won't be run
either
L17[01:07:56] <payonel> your code may not
be run every tick
L18[01:08:15] <ben_mkiv> well, but it runs
on each tick that happens
L19[01:08:20] <ben_mkiv> !?
L20[01:08:39] <payonel> if you can't
control which ticks happen, why are you concerned?
L21[01:09:01] <ben_mkiv> i would like to
understand what i'm working with xD
L22[01:11:09] <payonel> afaik, oc will
always run a machine if given the opportunity
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L24[01:29:58] <Izaya> payonel: \27L
actually (VT52)
L25[01:30:33] <Izaya> I'm using it so I can
have a scrolling text display while keeping a working text input
field
L26[01:32:03] <Skye> Morning Izaya
L27[01:32:19] <Izaya> hai Skye
L28[01:34:07] <Skye> Public transport is
convenient
L29[01:37:10] <Tazz> public transport is
fun
L30[01:37:29] <Tazz> never in my life have
I ever seen such amazing things as I have on a CTA line XD
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L38[03:41:08] <payonel> Izaya: ah. i'm much
less familiar with vt52. i hadn't planned on supporting it
L39[03:41:15] <payonel> %ping
L40[03:41:17] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
payonel 0.41s
L41[04:00:44] <Izaya> payonel: the stuff
I'm trying to do is a lot easier on OpenOS
L42[04:00:48] <Izaya> you have direct GPU
access
L43[04:01:05] <Izaya> I'm needing to do it
all via IPC
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L46[04:11:00] <Izaya> @MGR you should fix
your shit
L47[04:11:07] <Izaya> and set up a cronjob
for it too
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L51[04:38:22] 
<MGR> I
DON'T USE LINUX
<MGR> I
DON'T USE LINUXL52[04:38:33] <MGR> And
repairs are ongoing
<MGR> And
repairs are ongoingL53[04:39:12] <Syrren> s/cronjob/scheduled
task/
L54[04:39:13] <MichiBot> <Izaya> and
set up a scheduled task for it too
L55[04:39:21] <Syrren> @MGR: ^
L56[04:39:35] <Syrren> Windows has cronjobs
too, they're just under a different name :)
L57[04:39:42] <Izaya> cronjob is a term
used for such things >.>
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L59[04:40:13] <MGR> I
prefer fixing the server
<MGR> I
prefer fixing the serverL60[04:40:34] <Izaya> Alright. Well, hasn't
happened yet. \o/
L61[04:40:50] <MGR> It
will
<MGR> It
willL62[04:43:16] <Izaya> muahahaha, a lua
prompt and a bunch of basic stuff in 2k, now to implement actual
booting
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L64[05:02:21] <GreaseMonkey> i almost
wonder if there should be a scheme or lisp computer mod for
minecraft
L65[05:08:38] <Vexatos> lisp architecture?
D:
L66[05:19:10] <Izaya> I forget why I was
doing this rewrite.
L67[05:20:42] <Izaya> Anyway:
L68[05:20:47] <Izaya> -rw-r--r-- 1 izaya
izaya 3.7K Sep 10 03:03 sebios.lua
L69[05:20:56] <Saphire>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L70[05:20:59] <Izaya> -rw-r--r-- 1 izaya
izaya 2.9K Sep 19 20:45 sebios2.lua
L71[05:21:05] <Saphire> My headphones
q-q
L72[05:21:08] <Saphire> They ded
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L74[05:21:42] <Izaya> RIP
L75[05:22:07] <Saphire> Apparently that's
relatively common problem..?
L76[05:22:21] <Izaya> yeah they do that a
lot
L77[05:22:30] <Izaya> you have to spend a
lot and be really careful with them to avoid that
L78[05:22:42] *
Izaya is going to get a set with a detachable cable when he
can
L79[05:23:14] <Saphire> Well...
L80[05:23:17] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h94ZKGVg-B8
L81[05:23:17] <MichiBot> W3C rejects
appeal, approves DRM standard, votes kept secret | length:
33m 6s | Likes: 666
Dislikes: 5 Views: 6,266 | by
Bryan Lunduke | Published On 18/9/2017
L82[05:23:19] <Izaya> in other news
L83[05:23:22] <Izaya> DRM is now
standard
L84[05:23:53] <Saphire> Those ...
L85[05:23:55] <Saphire> ...
L86[05:23:59] <Saphire> Why
L87[05:24:13] <Saphire> Ahem, those
headphones have been with me for... 3 years or so?
L88[05:24:24] <Saphire> For some exactly
same model managed to break in 3 months .-.
L89[05:24:32] <Saphire> I don't know HOW
they managed to do that, honestly.
L90[05:24:49] <Saphire> And my head is not
the smallest. Though they barely hold on to it <.<
L91[05:24:54] *
Izaya pokes @20kdc
L92[05:26:18] <Saphire> Buuut basically
there's a veeeery neat crack right where they speaker holder is
connected to the arc around head.
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L94[06:18:24] <g> I always manage to wreck
headphones with the usual design eventually
L95[06:18:35] <g> I often wear them with
one ear off to the side so I can hear stuff around me
L96[06:19:11] <MGR>
Same
<MGR>
SameL97[06:24:19] <Izaya> http://www.geektechnique.org/images/1217.jpg iBook
video repair.
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L99[06:43:07] <MGR>
Something at work is making a high-pitched whining noise, and it's
extremely irritating
<MGR>
Something at work is making a high-pitched whining noise, and it's
extremely irritatingL100[06:44:57]
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L102[06:52:08] *
Izaya wonders if you could use the AdLib, Soundblaster and CMS
sound all at once on a SB1.5
L103[07:03:23] <MGR>
"$BlazeIT: One of my dispatchers that offices at a satellite
tech office. Running joke being that he has a
rather....elevated...level of thinking." --- Quote 1/3
<MGR>
"$BlazeIT: One of my dispatchers that offices at a satellite
tech office. Running joke being that he has a
rather....elevated...level of thinking." --- Quote 1/3L104[07:23:10] ⇦
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L105[07:28:31] *
Saphire pokes Izaya
L106[07:28:44] <Saphire> BOOTMGR is
missing. Wat do?
L107[07:29:05] <Izaya> boot into a windows
DVD, do the boot repair?
L108[07:29:30] <Saphire> Uh, tried, the
disk said something like "missing repair
utilities"?
L109[07:29:47] <Saphire> Win7 disk and the
OS installed is WinServ200something that is server win 7
L110[07:32:43] <MGR>
"$Cx: Tablets have batteries? $Me:... ... ... ... ... mute No,
they run on freakin’ pixie dust... unmute Yes ma’am, tablets have
batteries." --- Quote 2/3
<MGR>
"$Cx: Tablets have batteries? $Me:... ... ... ... ... mute No,
they run on freakin’ pixie dust... unmute Yes ma’am, tablets have
batteries." --- Quote 2/3L111[07:32:52] <CompanionCube> Saphire:
use fdisk?
L112[07:34:08] <Saphire> CompanionCube:
uh... that's a bit different
L113[07:34:16] <Saphire> fdisk is
partitioning tool, nothing more
L114[07:34:30] <Saphire> BOOTMGR is, well,
boot manager of windows, like GRUB is for linux.
L115[07:34:32] *
CompanionCube wonders if bootrec has a thing to reinstall
BOOTMGR
L116[07:34:49] <Saphire> It /should/
L117[07:34:57] <Saphire> But it doesn't
seem to create the boot folder on C:
L118[07:35:15] <MGR> I
deleted the boot sector on one of my hard drives.....
<MGR> I
deleted the boot sector on one of my hard drives.....L119[07:35:28] <MGR> This
is something that I will need to fix before I can use it in a
build
<MGR> This
is something that I will need to fix before I can use it in a
buildL120[07:35:46] <Syrren> @MGR:
"deleted" as in "overwrote with zeros"?
L121[07:35:54] <MGR> No
clue
<MGR> No
clueL122[07:36:12] <MGR> I
deleted in a partition manager, so probably not, but I'm not
sure
<MGR> I
deleted in a partition manager, so probably not, but I'm not
sureL123[07:36:21] <Syrren> ...
L124[07:36:23] <MGR> I just
need to use the repair tools ?
<MGR> I just
need to use the repair tools ?L125[07:36:25] <Saphire> Ah, you just need
to recreate the partition.
L126[07:36:32] <Syrren> So you don't mean
the BOOT SECTOR.
L127[07:36:32] <MGR>
Yeah
<MGR>
YeahL128[07:36:32] <Saphire> I mean, it was a
single partition, right?
L129[07:36:35] <Syrren> You mean the EFI
PARTITION.
L130[07:36:48] <Syrren> they're totally
different things
L131[07:37:04] <Saphire> MGR: Was it a
single partition?
L132[07:37:11] <MGR>
Probably? The error code I looked up said something about the boot
something getting broken
<MGR>
Probably? The error code I looked up said something about the boot
something getting brokenL133[07:37:25] <MGR> I
deleted around 5 partitions off the drive, and I don't know what
was important XD
<MGR> I
deleted around 5 partitions off the drive, and I don't know what
was important XDL134[07:37:26] <Izaya> Saphire: boot in
the same boot mode, fire up the repair tools, get a command prompt,
look up the guide that I've forgotten
L135[07:37:37] <Syrren> >fucks around with partitioning tool
L136[07:37:38] <Izaya> there's commands to
write a new boot sector, make sure the boot files are there
etc
L137[07:37:39] <Saphire> >Optional.
Specifies the volume letter of the system partition. This option
should not be used in typical deployment scenarios.
L138[07:37:40] <Syrren> >doesn't know what he's doing
L139[07:37:43] <MGR> I was
messing around with it to get it converted into a vhd
<MGR> I was
messing around with it to get it converted into a vhdL140[07:37:43] <Saphire> >bcdboot
L141[07:37:46] <Syrren> >quote talesfromtechsupport
L142[07:37:48] <Saphire> >not
typical
L143[07:37:49] <Syrren>
s/quote/quotes/
L144[07:37:49] <MichiBot> <Syrren>
>quotes
talesfromtechsupport
L145[07:37:56] <Saphire> WINDOWS, YOU
ALWAYS USE IT LIKE THIS FFS
L146[07:38:16] <Saphire> I mean, it's
always a separate partition that has the bootloader and it
definitely uses that option to make it
L147[07:38:16] <MGR> Yes,
but unlike the people in r/talesfromtechsupport, I'm not blaming
anyone/anything other than myself, and I know how to fix it
<MGR> Yes,
but unlike the people in r/talesfromtechsupport, I'm not blaming
anyone/anything other than myself, and I know how to fix itL148[07:38:39] <Saphire> Izaya: thing is,
I got only one monitor q-q
L149[07:38:43] <Saphire> And keyboard and
mouse...
L150[07:38:47] <Izaya> Saphire:
phone
L151[07:39:26] <Syrren> tl;dr: there's the
boot sector, which is used for BIOS boot, and there's the EFI
partition which is used for UEFI boot
L152[07:39:48] <Syrren> Windows often uses
extra partitions beyond that, because Windows is retarded
L153[07:39:49] <MGR> There
was definitely an EFI partition that went away, but I don't know
about a boot sector
<MGR> There
was definitely an EFI partition that went away, but I don't know
about a boot sectorL154[07:40:10] <CompanionCube> every disk
has a boot sector
L155[07:40:21] <Syrren> There's
"recovery" partitions, usually -- which appear to be
non-critical -- but sometimes these contain parts of the bootloader
:(
L156[07:40:29] <Saphire> Syrren: not as
retarded as Android though
L157[07:40:32] <CompanionCube> it's
embedded as part of the MS-DOS partition system used in all x86
boxen
L158[07:40:48] <Syrren> There's also a
case where if you install windows while it can see multiple disks,
it puts BOOTMGR on one drive and C:/ on another
L159[07:41:01] <Saphire> LOL
L160[07:41:05] <Syrren> CompanionCube:
That's why I WTF'd when MGR apparenlty "deleted" the boot
sector
L161[07:41:10] <Saphire> ...that happened
to me actually
L162[07:41:12] <Saphire> Fuck
L163[07:41:13] <Syrren> Saphire: totally
real story which I had personal experience with
L164[07:41:23] <Saphire> Syrren: I had the
disk split in two partitions
L165[07:41:39] <Saphire> One of them was
old OS, and I just installed a new Windows installation on
second.
L166[07:41:44] <Izaya> that's why I always
unplug all storage not that I'm installing on
L167[07:41:56] <Syrren> A friend of mine
who works in audio editing/production has a beefy custom PC with
multiple HDDs
L168[07:41:59] <Syrren> one of these disks
failed
L169[07:42:03] <Saphire> And after I
removed the first partition... RIP, it had BOOTMGR
L170[07:42:04] <Syrren> they asked me to
help
L171[07:42:08] <MGR> The
HDD in question was the only drive in its original system
<MGR> The
HDD in question was the only drive in its original systemL172[07:42:31] <Syrren> I recovered the
data... but afterwards the disk totally wouldn't enumerate, so we
pulled it out
L173[07:42:35] <Syrren> and windows didn't
boot
L174[07:42:40] <Saphire> Badum-ts
L175[07:42:46] <CompanionCube> (even if
you accidentally the entire partition table, that's what testdisk
and GPT's backup are for)
L176[07:42:48] <Syrren> turned out that
windows had spread it's bootgarbage to the data disk
L177[07:43:08] <Saphire> CompanionCube:
GPT doesn't edit backups? o..o
L178[07:43:27] <CompanionCube> Saphire: it
won't save you from intentionally made changes iirc
L179[07:43:29] <Syrren> the backup only
helps if you accidentally with a non-GPT tool (e.g. dd)
L180[07:43:30] <Saphire> brb, doing things
with bcdedit and bootrec
L181[07:43:47] <Syrren> Saphire: good
luck. I recommend bringing up guides & irc on your phone.
L182[07:44:02] <Saphire> *bcdbook
L183[07:44:03] <Saphire> *t
L184[07:44:15] <Syrren> bcdedit is a thing
too iirc
L185[07:44:46] <MGR> My
system still functions fine, because I had the wisdom to do this
messing around on a drive that could explode into iron dust for all
I care
<MGR> My
system still functions fine, because I had the wisdom to do this
messing around on a drive that could explode into iron dust for all
I careL186[07:44:52] <Syrren> :-)
L187[07:45:19] *
CompanionCube has been saved by the other GPT before
L188[07:45:49] <Saphire> Computer in
question is MBR q-q
L189[07:46:13] <MGR> I
think my discs are GPT....
<MGR> I
think my discs are GPT....L190[07:46:28] <Syrren> Windows + GPT
=> UEFI
L191[07:46:30] <CompanionCube> there's an
easy way to check
L192[07:46:51] <Syrren> I don't remember
if you can do UEFI with MBR disks, but I know you can't do GPT with
MBR
L193[07:46:55] <Syrren> derp
L194[07:47:02] <CompanionCube> Syrren:
MBR-UEFI is a thing iirc
L195[07:47:03] <Syrren> s/with MBR/with
BIOS boot/
L196[07:47:03] <MichiBot> <Syrren> I
don't remember if you can do UEFI with BIOS boot disks, but I know
you can't do GPT with MBR
L197[07:47:08] <Syrren> CompanionCube:
Windows doesn't recognise it
L198[07:47:10] <MGR> Yeah,
I know how to check, I'm just not motivated to check right
now
<MGR> Yeah,
I know how to check, I'm just not motivated to check right
nowL199[07:47:19] <payonel> uefi has legacy
drive support, so yes, you can do uefi with bios boot disks
L200[07:47:29] <payonel> Michiyo: you
up?
L201[07:47:54] <payonel> but in the uefi
configs you have to specify legacy mode
L202[07:47:56] <CompanionCube> payonel:
wouldn't legacy be MBR boot
L203[07:47:59] <Syrren> okay, to be very
accurate -- you can do GPT with MBR boot in general. but you can't
do that WITH WINDOWS.
L204[07:48:02] <payonel> mhmm
L205[07:48:14] <CompanionCube> the thing
in question was UEFI boot from MBR
L206[07:48:14] <payonel> i'm just saying,
uefi can read that
L207[07:48:18] <payonel> oh
L208[07:48:20] <payonel> um
L209[07:48:25] <payonel> that sounds weird
to me
L210[07:48:46] <Syrren> it's
microsoft
L211[07:48:50] <Syrren> of course it's
weird
L212[07:48:58] *
CompanionCube just uses GPT with an ESP - even though his ESP does
not strictly conform to spec.
L213[07:49:13] <Syrren>
"retrofitted" ESP in the extra space?
L214[07:49:16] <CompanionCube> yes
L215[07:49:19] <Syrren> :)
L216[07:49:27] <payonel> i dont know for
sure, feel free to correct me
L217[07:49:38] <MGR>
Windows cannot use UEFI with MBR
<MGR>
Windows cannot use UEFI with MBRL218[07:49:42] <MGR> It
must be GPT
<MGR> It
must be GPTL219[07:49:46] <Syrren> I had a lot of
"fun" converting my OEM Win10 installation from
MBR->GPT+UEFI
L220[07:49:53] <MGR> MBR
requires a BIOS
<MGR> MBR
requires a BIOSL221[07:49:55] <payonel> but, mbr doesn't
load uefi, uefi is loaded on the board, and mbr is on the disk. so
uefi loads gpt or mbr, its choice
L222[07:49:55] <CompanionCube> I also have
a BIOS-GRUB partition in the *other* extra space
L223[07:50:05] <payonel> bios assumes
mbr
L224[07:50:17] <payonel> uefi typically is
configured to load gpt
L225[07:50:20] <Syrren> CompanionCube: you
do know that grub can target uefi, right?
L226[07:50:24] <MGR> I
mean, Windows with MBR requires a BIOS
<MGR> I
mean, Windows with MBR requires a BIOSL227[07:50:29] <CompanionCube> Syrren: i'm
currently using that
L228[07:50:32] <payonel> so it isn't mbr
-> uefi, it is uefi -> gpt/mbr
L229[07:50:38] <CompanionCube> it was just
easier to install via MBR first :p
L230[07:50:44] <payonel> CompanionCube:
so, the question sounds backwards to me
L231[07:50:55] <Izaya> do you mean actual
BIOS or BIOS as in Basic Input/Output System?
L232[07:50:55] <Saphire> Failed yup open
handle to bootmgr
L233[07:50:59] <Saphire> ...wtf?
L234[07:51:02] <Izaya> because UEFI is a
type of BIOS
L235[07:51:03] <CompanionCube> basically i
can boot via both methods
L236[07:51:09] <CompanionCube> the default
is presently UEFI
L237[07:51:23] <Saphire> *to open
L238[07:51:35] <Saphire> WELL GUESS WHY
I'M USING YOU, YOU STUPID THING
L239[07:51:57] <Saphire> ...ooooh, it's
EFI
L240[07:52:08] <Saphire> ...
L241[07:52:14] <Saphire> HEY I DON'T NEED
EFI
L242[07:52:25] <Syrren> you *can*
downconvert but iirc it's harder
L243[07:52:33] <MGR> I mean
actual BIOS, not UEFI
<MGR> I mean
actual BIOS, not UEFIL244[07:52:40] <CompanionCube> Syrren: did
you know GRUB uses something very similar as GPT partition
type
L245[07:52:42] <MGR>
"Legacy" BIOS
<MGR>
"Legacy" BIOSL246[07:52:46] <CompanionCube> if not
booting bis UEFI
L247[07:53:09] <Saphire> Haaaalp
L248[07:53:16] <Saphire> The disk is
MBR
L249[07:53:23] <Syrren> but you're somehow
booting from EFI?
L250[07:53:32] <Saphire> ... I'm buying
win7 install
L251[07:53:38] <Syrren> Saphire: Can you
load up a Linux livecd/liveusb to diagnose this properly?
L252[07:53:51] <Izaya> Saphire: just boot
in BIOS mode
L253[07:53:51] <Saphire> Now I'll reboot
it in bios mode
L254[07:54:11] <Lizzy>
(U)EFI can load from MBR-style disks, it's just not that
common
<Lizzy>
(U)EFI can load from MBR-style disks, it's just not that
commonL255[07:54:23] <Saphire> It can? Huh
L256[07:54:29] <Izaya> CSM
L257[07:54:32] <Izaya> compatibility
support mode
L258[07:54:35] <MGR> Yes,
but Windows doesn't support that
<MGR> Yes,
but Windows doesn't support thatL259[07:54:37] <MGR> I
don't think...
<MGR> I
don't think...L260[07:54:41] <Izaya> It does.
L261[07:54:41] <Syrren> I'm not so
sure.
L262[07:54:49] <Lizzy> no,
Izaya that's for booting the legacy stuff through efi
<Lizzy> no,
Izaya that's for booting the legacy stuff through efiL263[07:54:53] <Saphire> So if D: has EFI
folder but it's MBR disk?
L264[07:54:53] <Syrren> What windows
doesn't support is booting BIOS from GPT disks
L265[07:55:10] <Syrren> ...are you sure
it's an MBR disk?
L266[07:55:11] <Lizzy>
Rufus can make a uefi compatible mbr disk
<Lizzy>
Rufus can make a uefi compatible mbr diskL267[07:55:12] <CompanionCube> Syrren: is
the EFI folder on an ESP?
L268[07:55:15] <Izaya> this shit is too
complicated
L269[07:55:25] <CompanionCube> EFI folders
don't mean jack on non-ESPs
L270[07:55:29] <Saphire> Syrren: it is.
EFI folder was created by utility I just ran
L271[07:55:46] <Syrren> that utility did
nothing useful then
L272[07:55:46] <Saphire> ... Partition is
NTFS, fuck
L273[07:55:55] <MGR> Wait,
I'm not sure about what I said
<MGR> Wait,
I'm not sure about what I saidL274[07:56:00] <Syrren> ESPs are FAT32
iirc
L275[07:56:00] <MGR> GPT
boot requires UEFI in Windows
<MGR> GPT
boot requires UEFI in WindowsL276[07:56:04] <Saphire> Booting in bios
mode then
L277[07:56:06] <Lizzy>
yeah, efi probably wont read that out of the box
<Lizzy>
yeah, efi probably wont read that out of the boxL278[07:56:09] <MGR> I'm
not sure if UEFI supports MBR then
<MGR> I'm
not sure if UEFI supports MBR thenL279[07:56:19] <CompanionCube> Saphire:
well, FAT*
L280[07:56:20] <Syrren> Saphire: if you're
unfucking a bios install you have to boot the recovery cd in bios
mode too
L281[07:56:25] <Izaya> ^
L282[07:56:28] <CompanionCube> mine's
FAT16.
L283[07:56:33] <MGR>
Correction, I'm not sure if Windows+UEFI does NOT support booting
MBR
<MGR>
Correction, I'm not sure if Windows+UEFI does NOT support booting
MBRL284[07:56:34] <Saphire> Syrren:
gotcha
L285[07:56:52] <Izaya> had funtimes with
that not too long ago at work
L286[07:57:01] <Syrren> this is one of the
many reasons I was suggesting to start from a diagnosis using linux
tools
L287[07:57:16] <Saphire> Syrren: what
would it tell me that I didn't saw?
L288[07:57:29] <Syrren> discover whether
you're dealing with mbr or gpt disks, partition types, etc. much
quicker
L289[07:57:36] <Saphire> D: and C:, no
boot for in sight, mbr
L290[07:57:43] <Saphire> Folder
L291[07:57:51] <Saphire> Both ntfs
L292[07:58:25] <Syrren> "boot
folder"...?
L293[07:58:35] <Syrren> I don't have a
boot folder on my C:/
L294[07:58:44] <Lizzy> UEFI
has the capability to either boot from MBR or an MBR/GPT hybrid
disk, Rufus (usb image creation tool) can set up a usb stic that
can be booted on both EFI and 'legacy'
<Lizzy> UEFI
has the capability to either boot from MBR or an MBR/GPT hybrid
disk, Rufus (usb image creation tool) can set up a usb stic that
can be booted on both EFI and 'legacy'L295[07:59:04] <Lizzy>
Syrren, are you running windows in efi mode?
<Lizzy>
Syrren, are you running windows in efi mode?L296[07:59:13] <Syrren>
s/Syrren/Saphire/
L297[07:59:13] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> Saphire, are you running windows in
efi mode?
<Lizzy> Saphire, are you running windows in
efi mode?L298[07:59:27] <Lizzy> no,
that question was directed at you
<Lizzy> no,
that question was directed at youL299[07:59:31] <Syrren> oh ok
L300[07:59:34] <Syrren> yes, EFI
mode
L301[08:00:01] <Lizzy> then
the boot files wont be on your C: drive, they'll be on a hidden
partition at the start of your drive
<Lizzy> then
the boot files wont be on your C: drive, they'll be on a hidden
partition at the start of your driveL302[08:00:07] <Lizzy> you
can see it in disk manager
<Lizzy> you
can see it in disk managerL303[08:00:25] <MGR>
^^^
<MGR>
^^^L304[08:00:37] <Saphire> Uh, said
partition is 100mb NTFS partition
L305[08:00:40] <Saphire> So, mbr
L306[08:00:54] <Lizzy>
yeah, yours is most likely mbr, sapphire
<Lizzy>
yeah, yours is most likely mbr, sapphireL307[08:01:01] <Syrren> @Lizzy @MGR hidden
partition being ESP?
L308[08:01:05] <Lizzy>
yes
<Lizzy>
yesL309[08:01:16] <MGR> ESP?
Extrasensory Perception?
<MGR> ESP?
Extrasensory Perception?L310[08:01:21] <Syrren> right. I forgot
that I had two ESPs.
L311[08:01:24] <Lizzy> EFI
System PArtition
<Lizzy> EFI
System PArtitionL312[08:01:26] <Syrren> @MGR EFI System
Partition
L313[08:01:28] <MGR> That
makes more sense
<MGR> That
makes more senseL314[08:01:36] <MGR> Just
wanted to confirm XD
<MGR> Just
wanted to confirm XDL315[08:01:48] <Syrren> tl;dr: this laptop
has more disk slots than most
L316[08:01:48] <MGR> That's
one of the partitions I deleted ?
<MGR> That's
one of the partitions I deleted ?L317[08:02:00] <Syrren> 2 NVMe slots &
2 full-size 2.5" SATA's
L318[08:02:16] <Lizzy> also
if you're dualbooting linux and windows, it's best to have a
seperate ESP from windows and then just chainload into the windows
one because windows does like to fuck anything that isn't windows
in it's ESP
<Lizzy> also
if you're dualbooting linux and windows, it's best to have a
seperate ESP from windows and then just chainload into the windows
one because windows does like to fuck anything that isn't windows
in it's ESPL319[08:02:27] <Syrren> ^ exactly
L320[08:02:29] <Syrren> that's how I did
it
L321[08:02:38] *
Izaya just uses the CSM for everything
L322[08:02:51] <Syrren> windows on the
NVMe SSD with it's own ESP, and Linux on the SATA SSD with
rEFInd
L323[08:03:04] <Syrren> bonus: I can
passthrough the linux ssd to a VM on windows
L324[08:03:05] <Lizzy>
rEFInd is awesome
<Lizzy>
rEFInd is awesomeL325[08:03:49] <Lizzy> I've
had it twice where windows fucked over my linux bootloaders because
it was on windows' ESP and it felt like it
<Lizzy> I've
had it twice where windows fucked over my linux bootloaders because
it was on windows' ESP and it felt like itL326[08:04:08] <Syrren> Laptop or
desktop?
L327[08:04:42] <Lizzy>
both, IIRC, had it happen on laptop then forgot about it till it
happened again on my desktop
<Lizzy>
both, IIRC, had it happen on laptop then forgot about it till it
happened again on my desktopL328[08:04:53] <Izaya> I only have 2TB
HDDs set up as RAID in another box, no boot devices >500GB
L329[08:05:19] <Syrren> I was gonna say -
if you're on a laptop (and thus only one disk, usually), you could
make a new ESP on an SD card
L330[08:05:28] <Syrren> put linux boot on
that ESP
L331[08:05:43] <Syrren> @Lizzy: ^
L332[08:05:54] <Lizzy>
laptop has a 2.5" ssd for windows and an M.2 SSD for
linux
<Lizzy>
laptop has a 2.5" ssd for windows and an M.2 SSD for
linuxL333[08:05:57] <Izaya> just install loonix
on the SD card
L334[08:06:03] <Syrren> that's not a good
idea
L335[08:06:09] <Syrren> SD card will wear
out pretty quickly if you do that
L336[08:06:14] <Izaya> true enough
x_x
L337[08:06:20] <Syrren> @Lizzy: in that
case have two ESPs, easy
L338[08:06:20] <MGR> SD
cards have low-quality flash
<MGR> SD
cards have low-quality flashL339[08:06:22] <Lizzy> and
with the seperate ESPs it can't easilly fuck up rEFInd. it still
fucks with the boot order though but most of the time it's just a
case of swapping the order back around
<Lizzy> and
with the seperate ESPs it can't easilly fuck up rEFInd. it still
fucks with the boot order though but most of the time it's just a
case of swapping the order back aroundL340[08:06:28] <Lizzy>
Syrren, i already do
<Lizzy>
Syrren, i already doL341[08:06:44] *
Izaya wonders if F2FS would help at all
L342[08:06:48] <Syrren> right. you only
just mentioned the boot order - I assumed you meant that it fucked
up the actual files
L343[08:06:56] <Syrren> Izaya: F2FS would
slow the problem down somewhat, I guess
L344[08:07:06] <Syrren> wait, no
L345[08:07:07] <Izaya> issue is it's
unstable as fuck
L346[08:07:07] <Syrren> it won't
L347[08:07:08] <Lizzy> oh,
it has fucked up the actual files before
<Lizzy> oh,
it has fucked up the actual files beforeL348[08:07:20] <Syrren> F2FS is, iirc,
designed for direct-access flash
L349[08:07:21] <Lizzy>
hence making seperate ESPs
<Lizzy>
hence making seperate ESPsL350[08:07:29] <Izaya> RIP
L351[08:07:35] <Izaya> welp it was a nice
idea
L352[08:07:42] <Saphire> Aaand it
boots
L353[08:07:49] <Izaya> life \o/
L354[08:08:20] <Syrren> Izaya: okay, looks
like I was misremembering. Nothing in the wikipedia article re
direct-access.
L355[08:08:26] <Syrren> the FTL doesn't
help the problem, though.
L356[08:08:44] <Syrren> SD card/USB flash
drive FTL is really stupid (because cost & space)
L357[08:08:55] <Izaya> unrelated: season 3
had IBM/Lenovo laptops, the movie has Samsung machines
L358[08:08:55] <Lizzy> my
laptop has all the CSM stuff disabled (both in the firmware and in
rEFInd's config) because i don't need it there, PC has it enabled
because it's useful sometimes to boot into old/non-efi drives
<Lizzy> my
laptop has all the CSM stuff disabled (both in the firmware and in
rEFInd's config) because i don't need it there, PC has it enabled
because it's useful sometimes to boot into old/non-efi drivesL359[08:08:58] <Mimiru> payonel?
L360[08:09:10] <Lizzy> like
what i had to do when i broke my kernel a few weeks back
<Lizzy> like
what i had to do when i broke my kernel a few weeks backL361[08:09:12] <CompanionCube> also
L362[08:09:16] <CompanionCube> >f2fs
>esp
L363[08:09:19] <Syrren> Izaya:
season/movie of what?
L364[08:09:26] <Izaya> Veronica Mars
L365[08:09:31] <Syrren> CompanionCube:
F2FS was in the context of a Linux install on an SD card
L366[08:09:42] <Syrren> as the next
logical step after moving Linux ESP there
L367[08:10:47] <Lizzy> I
don't actually use my laptop that much nowadays
<Lizzy> I
don't actually use my laptop that much nowadaysL368[08:11:14] <Syrren> *cha-ching!*
L369[08:11:16] <Lizzy>
since i don't jump back and forth between staying at my dad's and
mums
<Lizzy>
since i don't jump back and forth between staying at my dad's and
mumsL370[08:11:25] <Syrren> 3rd student paper
to get full marks in this assignment, yay!
L371[08:12:07] <Izaya> cha-ching, failed
3/6 classes this year
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L373[08:12:21] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
which 3
L374[08:12:30] <Izaya> english, maths and
design&tech
L375[08:12:30] <Lizzy>
cha-ching, don't have school/college anymore and i get paid to
work
<Lizzy>
cha-ching, don't have school/college anymore and i get paid to
workL376[08:13:10] <Syrren> ^ ditto, but one
of my two jobs atm is teaching at uni
L377[08:13:20] <Syrren> thus the
assignment marking
L378[08:13:25] <Lizzy>
ah
<Lizzy>
ahL379[08:13:41] <Lizzy> I
work as IT Tech support at a college
<Lizzy> I
work as IT Tech support at a collegeL380[08:14:05] * g
waves from the reception desk of a small office
L381[08:14:24] *
Izaya waves from student IT
L382[08:14:42] <Corded> * <MGR>
waves
L383[08:15:17] <Syrren> @Lizzy: I'm
running tutorials on "advanced programming paradigms"
(pretty much Scheme 101, lambda calculus and a bit of Scala) for
2nd-year students
L384[08:15:29] <Lizzy>
cool
<Lizzy>
coolL385[08:16:51] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
needs to read up on lambda stuff at some point
L386[08:17:24] <Syrren> as in lambda
calculus?
L387[08:17:32] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
shrugs
L388[08:17:36] <Lizzy>
lambda things in general
<Lizzy>
lambda things in generalL389[08:17:39] <Syrren> the wikipedia
article's really good for a starting point
L390[08:17:52] <Syrren> ..."lambda
things in general" is a really wide definition
L391[08:18:16] <Syrren> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_(disambiguation)
L392[08:19:12] <Lizzy>
discord did a stupid and diddn't add the closing bracket to the
hyperlink it made
<Lizzy>
discord did a stupid and diddn't add the closing bracket to the
hyperlink it madeL393[08:19:21] <Syrren> :(
L394[08:19:28] <MGR> I used
Lambdas in Java once
<MGR> I used
Lambdas in Java onceL395[08:19:40] <Lizzy>
wikipedia had a handy redirect though
<Lizzy>
wikipedia had a handy redirect thoughL396[08:19:42] <MGR> For
some project that was not important, and was never finished
<MGR> For
some project that was not important, and was never finishedL397[08:21:15] *
Mimiru pokes payonel
L398[08:21:37] <Izaya> jesus I forgot how
depressing this whole thing is
L399[08:22:05] <Inari> What is?
L400[08:22:21] <Lizzy> ffs,
one of the people on the helpdesks at the other sites keeps marking
email in the inbox as read but not tagging them
<Lizzy> ffs,
one of the people on the helpdesks at the other sites keeps marking
email in the inbox as read but not tagging themL401[08:24:29] <Saphire> Yay, computer is
booted up
L402[08:24:39] <LuMistry>
Greetings
<LuMistry>
GreetingsL403[08:29:07] <MGR>
"Surely I can't be out of oil, coolant, battery and have my
park break on at the same time?" --- Quote 3/3
<MGR>
"Surely I can't be out of oil, coolant, battery and have my
park break on at the same time?" --- Quote 3/3L404[08:29:19] <MGR> Oh,
but you can!
<MGR> Oh,
but you can!L405[08:29:29] <Mimiru> then they jumped
it off with a drill battery...
L406[08:29:37] <Syrren> could also be a
diagnostic sequence
L407[08:29:53] <Mimiru> Spoiler Alert: The
alternator has died.
L408[08:29:56] <Mimiru> :P
L409[08:30:00] <Syrren> ah.
L410[08:30:35] <Mimiru> sitting in traffic
no alternator, draining the battery, so the computer is slowly
losing it's mind as the voltage drops
L411[08:30:35] <MGR>
Mimiru: ?
<MGR>
Mimiru: ?L412[08:30:44] <Mimiru> anyway off to
work
L413[08:30:51] <MGR> I'm
still catching up on my TFTS stories
<MGR> I'm
still catching up on my TFTS storiesL414[08:34:22]
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L415[08:37:48] <payonel> %ping
L416[08:37:51] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
payonel 2.6s
L417[08:40:50] <payonel> \o/ this wifi on
this high speed train is fun
L418[08:40:51] <payonel> i can't stay
connected longer than 5s
L419[08:41:40] <payonel> %ping
L420[08:41:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
payonel 2.65s
L421[08:41:55] <Izaya> looks likea solid
few minutes
L422[08:50:47] <Michiyo> lol fun times
payonel
L423[08:53:03] <Michiyo> %tell payonel I
was awake, just not at my computer.. lol
L424[08:53:03] <MichiBot> Michiyo: payonel
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L425[09:03:59] <Michiyo> I REGRET
EVERYTHING!
L426[09:04:06] ⇦
Quits: Michiyo (~Michiyo@mail.pc-logix.com) (Read error: Connection
reset by peer)
L427[09:04:14] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L429[09:04:19] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Obsolete Technology Posted on: 9/18/2017
L430[09:04:27] <MGR>
Michiyo / Mimiru , are you ok?
<MGR>
Michiyo / Mimiru , are you ok?L431[09:05:43]
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L435[09:14:24]
zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L436[09:14:34] *
Michiyo coughs
L437[09:14:47] <MGR>
Michiyo, are you ok?
<MGR>
Michiyo, are you ok?L438[09:14:58] <Michiyo> FIne, why?
L439[09:15:10] <MGR> Your
quit message said "I REGRET EVERYTHING!"
<MGR> Your
quit message said "I REGRET EVERYTHING!"L440[09:15:19] <Lizzy> that
was a normal message
<Lizzy> that
was a normal messageL441[09:15:29] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L442[09:15:38] <Michiyo> It wasn't a quit
message, I sent it, then I quit
L443[09:15:42] <Michiyo> and yes, I'm
fine..
L444[09:15:52] <MGR> Oh,
yeah, my bad
<MGR> Oh,
yeah, my badL445[09:15:55] <Michiyo> Windows wanted
updates.. said I had 4 minutes 58 seconds to restart
L446[09:15:59] <MGR> Ok,
just wondering
<MGR> Ok,
just wonderingL447[09:16:02] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L448[09:24:59] <Syrren> Michiyo: like
humans need vitamin C, windows needs updates
L449[09:29:50] <SevenRoses> anyone know a
way to get the nr of entries in a table?
L450[09:30:56] <Syrren> SevenRoses: if foo
is a table, #foo is the number of entries in it
L451[09:30:56] <MGR>
NR?
<MGR>
NR?L452[09:31:08] <MGR> Oh,
number, yeah, what Syrren said
<MGR> Oh,
number, yeah, what Syrren saidL453[09:31:21] <Syrren> SevenRoses: sorry,
that's the number of *numbered* entries as in ipairs().
L454[09:31:45] <SevenRoses> no the table
will hold nonnumbered entries
L455[09:32:13] <Syrren> SevenRoses:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/652957/how-do-i-get-the-number-of-keys-in-a-hash-table-in-lua
L456[09:34:15] <SevenRoses> :( had hoped
there was a way without looping over them, but thanks for the
info
L457[09:34:51] <MGR>
Perchance, what are you working on?
<MGR>
Perchance, what are you working on?L458[09:35:26]
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L459[09:35:41] <SevenRoses> vector
api
L460[09:35:55] <MGR> For
OpenComputers?
<MGR> For
OpenComputers?L461[09:36:00] <SevenRoses> jup
L462[09:36:05] <Syrren> SevenRoses: if you
look at https://stackoverflow.com/a/19756485
you'll see a method that doesn't involve looping -- i.e. the
metatable-based solution
L463[09:36:14] <MGR> What
does your vector API do?
<MGR> What
does your vector API do?L464[09:36:50] <SevenRoses>
sum,sub,scalar,dot,cross -> I'm working on some hologram api,
but needed some vector calculations
L465[09:38:04] <MGR> For
those of us not steeped in the lingo, are those vector math, as in
SIMD? Or am I missing something entirely?
<MGR> For
those of us not steeped in the lingo, are those vector math, as in
SIMD? Or am I missing something entirely?L466[09:38:22] <Syrren> they can't be SIMD
because OpenComputers doesn't have SIMD...
L467[09:38:50] <SevenRoses> xyz
coordinates can be seen as a vectors (math term), then you can do
some calculations on them
L468[09:39:35] <MGR>
Syrren, I fought for SIMD, and failed
<MGR>
Syrren, I fought for SIMD, and failedL469[09:39:56] <MGR>
SevenRoses, so it's a way of shifting around 3D coordinates?
<MGR>
SevenRoses, so it's a way of shifting around 3D coordinates?L470[09:40:11] <Syrren> @MGR: you're
running a Lua VM in a Java VM on god-knows-what hardware, why do
you expect SIMD?
L471[09:40:12] <SevenRoses> or to
calculate a line between 2
L472[09:40:14] <MGR> It
also could have been "Software emulated" SIMD
<MGR> It
also could have been "Software emulated" SIMDL473[09:40:34] <MGR>
SevenRoses, can you calculate a parabolic curve with that?
<MGR>
SevenRoses, can you calculate a parabolic curve with that?L474[09:40:59] <MGR>
Syrren, because SIMD hardware is in most modern CPUs
<MGR>
Syrren, because SIMD hardware is in most modern CPUsL475[09:41:15] <MGR> AVX
for sure, I think SSE too?
<MGR> AVX
for sure, I think SSE too?L476[09:41:45] <SevenRoses> sure, I
already made some thing that when you provide the functions for
x,y,z, it will draw the points on a hologram
L477[09:41:58] <MGR>
SevenRoses, I am now EXTREMELY interested in your program
<MGR>
SevenRoses, I am now EXTREMELY interested in your programL478[09:42:10] <MajGenRelativity> Do you
mind if I PM you?
L479[09:42:28] <SevenRoses> I already put
part of it on the forum :)
L480[09:42:46] <MajGenRelativity>
Link?
L481[09:42:48] <SevenRoses> but I'm still
implementing more of the vector features
L482[09:43:24] <_7Roses> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1434-holographic-extended-api/&tab=comments#comment-6330
L483[09:43:40] <MajGenRelativity> Thank
you
L484[09:43:46] <MajGenRelativity> Do you
mind if I PM you?
L485[09:43:59] <SevenRoses> don't mind at
all :)
L486[09:44:07] <MajGenRelativity> Thank
you
L487[09:45:05] <logan2611>
How do I DDOS the NSA on an Open Computers computer
<logan2611>
How do I DDOS the NSA on an Open Computers computerL488[09:45:12] <Syrren> you don't
L489[09:45:15] <MGR>
Reflection attack
<MGR>
Reflection attackL490[09:45:32] <MGR> I'll
say goodbye to you right now, and tell you to enjoy the hole they
put you in
<MGR> I'll
say goodbye to you right now, and tell you to enjoy the hole they
put you inL491[09:45:48] <logan2611>
Never said I would
<logan2611>
Never said I wouldL492[09:46:06] <AmandaC> Doesn't matter,
they've got agents en-route already
L493[09:46:25] <Saphire> Hi
L494[09:46:59] <Syrren> oh god I just got
this mental image of Clippit
L495[09:47:09] <Syrren> "Hi, looks
like you're trying to DDOS the NSA."
L496[09:47:09] <MGR>
Clippy?
<MGR>
Clippy?L497[09:47:13] <Syrren> yeah
L498[09:47:15] <MGR>
Hehehehehehehheheheh
<MGR>
HehehehehehehhehehehL499[09:47:26] <MGR>
"Do you need some assistance with that?"
<MGR>
"Do you need some assistance with that?"L500[09:47:29] <Syrren> Exactly
L501[09:47:45] <Saphire> :D
L502[09:48:07] <Corded> * <MGR>
watches Clippy DDOS the NSA
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L509[10:08:56] <AmandaC> Syrren: and what
it really does is draft an email with your name, ssn, birthday to
the FBI Tip line
L510[10:09:28] <Syrren> AmandaC: that or
DDOSes your own stuff
L511[10:09:38] <Syrren> or better,
*pretends* to draft said email
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L514[10:16:12] <logan2611>
logan@ubuntu:~$ ping thensa.com
<logan2611>
logan@ubuntu:~$ ping thensa.comL515[10:16:41] <logan2611>
extreme dosing action
<logan2611>
extreme dosing actionL516[10:18:02] <MGR> You
have to set it to keep pinging
<MGR> You
have to set it to keep pingingL517[10:18:06] <MGR> Then
you'll really be set
<MGR> Then
you'll really be setL518[10:18:56] <logan2611>
I thought it kept going without -c
<logan2611>
I thought it kept going without -cL519[10:19:11] <logan2611>
it does
<logan2611>
it doesL520[10:20:50] <MGR>
Idk
<MGR>
IdkL521[10:26:03] <Skye> depends on the
OC
L522[10:26:53] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L523[10:27:42] <Skye> s/OC
L524[10:27:48] <Skye> /OS/
L525[10:28:05] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL526[10:30:57] <AmandaC> OC ICMP packets
when
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L529[10:33:41] <Saphire> o..o
L530[10:33:52] <Saphire> There's no
english translation/version of The Perl Oneliner D:
L531[10:34:07] <Syrren> Newsflash:
Apparently the DMCA is being abused to censor bad reviews :(
https://lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/798
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L534[10:34:56] <Syrren> Saphire:
link?
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L537[10:36:39] *
Michiyo sighs at hexchat
L538[10:39:28] <Saphire> Syrren: sec
L539[10:39:36] <Saphire> http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0_Perl
L540[10:39:53] <Saphire> Basically, a rm
-rf encoded in a cryptic perl expression.
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L543[10:42:34] <Syrren> Saphire: OK, so
you mean an english translation of the article, not an english
translation of the Perl expression :P
L544[10:42:51] <logan2611>
good to know that IRC would work from interplanatary space
<logan2611>
good to know that IRC would work from interplanatary spaceL545[10:43:17] <Syrren> @logan2611:
??
L546[10:44:29] <logan2611>
Ping timeout of 195 seconds
<logan2611>
Ping timeout of 195 secondsL547[10:44:48] <logan2611>
would work from 58460000 km awayu
<logan2611>
would work from 58460000 km awayuL548[10:44:49] <logan2611>
would work from 58460000 km away
<logan2611>
would work from 58460000 km awayL549[10:45:01] <Syrren> oh, so that's what
you mean
L550[10:45:01] <Michiyo> that's one of the
shorter timeouts too... some of the servers on this network have
300+ second timeouts
L551[10:45:18] <logan2611>
30 minute timeout and I could talk on Mars
<logan2611>
30 minute timeout and I could talk on MarsL552[10:45:30] <logan2611>
wait no thats Jupiter
<logan2611>
wait no thats JupiterL553[10:45:43] <Syrren> the conversation
would resemble email anyway
L554[10:45:54] <logan2611>
lol
<logan2611>
lolL555[10:46:04] <logan2611>
I could talk from mars with a 195 second timeout
<logan2611>
I could talk from mars with a 195 second timeoutL556[10:46:12] <AmandaC> I like how the
"internet" works in space as depicted by The Expanse
series
L557[10:46:40] <AmandaC> I gather it works
via cached data, if the data isn't on your astroid / station / etc,
you file a request, and it'll be transfered over
L558[10:46:51] <AmandaC> You get an alert
when it's available from the cache
L559[10:48:00] <AmandaC> ( Note, I mean
the series of the book, havn't seen the show )
L560[10:48:14] <Saphire> Ouch
L561[10:48:29] <Saphire> Lack of quantum
FTL data transfer bullshit sounds bad D:
L562[10:48:40] <Saphire> ...no wait,
that's still FTL I guess.
L563[10:49:16] <Saphire> Just, more like
"gather requests, send them in a burst, receive data"
because it's expensive to do that with every tiny request?
L564[10:49:17] <AmandaC> The exact data
transmission isn't explained, but they do do lasers for
short-range, high-throughput stuff
L565[10:49:35] <AmandaC> not sure if
that'd work across the system
L566[10:49:45] <AmandaC> There's no warp
drives, too
L567[10:49:48] <Saphire> Oh.
L568[10:50:01] <Saphire> Wait, how big is
the whole space of the series?
L569[10:50:12] <Saphire> I mean, is it sol
system, nearby stars or what?
L570[10:50:28] <AmandaC> if you want to go
to pluto, you plan your course, and burn away from Sol for the
first half, then do a 180 and butn counter-sol for the second half
of the trip
L571[10:50:42] <Saphire> Ouch,
L572[10:51:15] <AmandaC> Most of the books
takes place in Sol, but [[ spoiler plot device ]] opens up other
systems at the end of the original trilogy
L573[10:52:16] <Saphire> I wish there was
something like Eclipse Phase but without the horror part x.x
L574[10:52:44] <Syrren> Saphire:
translated https://hastebin.com/erumocipuy.txt
L575[10:53:24] <Saphire> O.o
L576[10:53:39] <Syrren> the
one-liner
L577[10:54:03] <Saphire> I know that
L578[10:54:07] <Saphire> Just.. rather
impressive
L579[10:54:39] <Syrren> it's about 40%
distraction/no-op :p
L580[10:55:15] <Saphire> Still, nice
L581[10:55:31] <AmandaC> I highly
recommend the expanse series of books
L582[10:55:42] <MGR> They
are good
<MGR> They
are goodL583[10:55:44] <MGR> I've
read several
<MGR> I've
read severalL584[10:55:58] <Syrren> first four lines
can be deleted with no loss of functionality, same goes for the
"s" flag and one of the "e" flags on the last
regex
L585[10:56:46] <AmandaC> I've got the
latest one loaded on my phone, but havn't read too far into it yet,
havn't really had an excuse to just sit and read
L586[10:57:45] <Syrren> Saphire: https://i.imgur.com/9MuaCEk.png tools of the trade
:-P
L587[10:58:09] <MGR>
AmandaC, you should check out The Lost Fleet
<MGR>
AmandaC, you should check out The Lost FleetL588[10:58:26] <MGR> It
focuses a lot on time-delay and science like The Expanse, with a
few exceptions
<MGR> It
focuses a lot on time-delay and science like The Expanse, with a
few exceptionsL589[10:58:48] <MGR> It
also has a really interesting premise and story
<MGR> It
also has a really interesting premise and storyL590[11:08:16]
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L595[11:33:43] <Syrren> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/14/fearing_hacking_us_navy_resumes_sextants/
L596[11:35:35] <MGR>
Tomorrow: "Hackers install rockets on stars to move them out
of position and crash US Navy ships!"
<MGR>
Tomorrow: "Hackers install rockets on stars to move them out
of position and crash US Navy ships!"L597[11:36:47] <Syrren> xD
L598[11:37:22] <Inari> Ninjaforms
documentation is weird
L599[11:39:00] <Saphire> "Hackers
cause factories to produce misaligned sextants, causing mass issues
in Navy!"
L600[11:39:10] <MGR> Now,
THAT, makes more sense
<MGR> Now,
THAT, makes more senseL601[11:40:03] <Syrren> indeed
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L603[11:43:24] <Saphire> And perfectly
possible to implement
L604[11:44:01] <Saphire> Or they could
hack internet star maps so that they swap few random but important
stars for navigation
L605[11:44:13] <Saphire> Muahaha
L606[11:44:15] <MGR> I
prefer my idea
<MGR> I
prefer my ideaL607[11:44:17] <MGR> It's
cooler
<MGR> It's
coolerL608[11:44:53] <Saphire> "Hackers
hack satellites, leading to blockage of huge parts of sky,
disrupting Navy navigation"
L609[11:45:05] <Syrren> Saphire: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/us_navy_satellite_pcsat_no_44_goes_rogue/
L610[11:45:20] <Saphire> xD
L611[11:46:32] <Syrren> LOLFAIL, amirite?
:P
L612[11:47:46] <Saphire> Can't really look
at it, what happened and how?
L613[11:48:54] <MGR> The
satellite is now blocking usage of one radio spectrum, because of
bad programming
<MGR> The
satellite is now blocking usage of one radio spectrum, because of
bad programmingL614[11:49:24]
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L615[11:50:36] <Syrren> Saphire: tl;dr old
US Navy sat is low on power because reasons. This causes it to
reset every 15 minutes or so. Resets cause a backup beacon to start
transmitting, drowning out part of the ham radio spectrum. They
can't shut it down because the C&C protocol is too complex...
and the beacon would turn back on after the next reset
anyway!
L616[11:52:29] <Saphire> So they shot it
down?
L617[11:53:00] <Syrren> Nope!
L618[11:53:08] <Syrren> They're like
"sorry, amateur radio peeps, just wait for it to
die"
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L620[12:00:53] <Saphire> :v
L621[12:08:40] <Inari> Heh
L622[12:10:04] <MGR>
%jenknis
<MGR>
%jenknisL623[12:10:06] <MGR>
%jenkins
<MGR>
%jenkinsL624[12:10:18] <MGR> Can I
have a link to the OC jenkins please?
<MGR> Can I
have a link to the OC jenkins please?L625[12:10:25] <Mimiru> http://oc.cil.li
L626[12:11:00] <MGR> That's
the forums
<MGR> That's
the forumsL627[12:11:16] <Mimiru> err right
L628[12:11:18] <Mimiru> typo
L629[12:11:22] <Mimiru> http://ci.cil.li
L630[12:12:43] <MGR> Thank
you Mimiru
<MGR> Thank
you MimiruL631[12:14:29] <Syrren> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/11/everybody_without_android_oreo_vulnerable_to_overlay_attack/
:(
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L635[13:22:32] *
payonel is in salzburg
L636[13:22:38] *
payonel has good internets
L637[13:22:41] *
payonel is happy
L638[13:35:40] <Michiyo> hi payonel
L639[13:36:15] <Inari> If payonel pays one
l, does he become payone?
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L642[13:44:09] <payonel> Inari: i made
this imgur post for you: https://imgur.com/a/LOpaj
L643[13:44:16] <MGR>
Hah
<MGR>
HahL644[13:49:24] <Inari> payonel: Lots o'
cat pics :D nice
L645[13:49:35] <Inari> payonel: Did you
visit a zoo or somehting? xD
L646[13:50:00] <payonel> hehe, no --
someone shared it with me -- from another site that had one of
those [ NEXT > ] buttons
L647[13:50:04] <payonel> so i scraped them
all for you
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L649[13:50:28] <Inari> Handy \o/
L650[13:51:30] <Michiyo> payonel, you
pinged me this morning.... any idea what about? lol
L651[13:51:42] <payonel> Michiyo: und
hallo zu dir :)
L652[13:52:12] <Michiyo> o/ payonel
:p
L653[13:52:20] <payonel> Michiyo: um, i
was going to install an irc client on my phone
L654[13:52:50] <Michiyo> sounds icky
:P
L655[13:52:57] <payonel> and i was
thinking, oh, michiyo could help me remember how i set this
up!
L656[13:53:04] <Michiyo> heh yes :P
L657[13:53:08] <Michiyo> maybe.
L658[13:56:22] <MGR> Or you
could use Discord *waggles eyebrows*
<MGR> Or you
could use Discord *waggles eyebrows*L659[13:57:19] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOwUmXY2eOw
L660[13:57:20] <MichiBot> Unibrow
Dance | length: 6s | Likes: 35 Dislikes: 5
Views: 8,433 | by The Guy | Published On
21/1/2013
L661[13:57:22] <Michiyo> or we could
sacrifice @MGR
L662[13:57:33] <MGR>
Noooooooooooooooooooo
<MGR>
NooooooooooooooooooooL663[13:57:36] <Michiyo> Pick a
god/goddess of your choice.
L664[13:58:42] <Vexatos> what about
non-god deities?
L665[13:59:33] <Michiyo> they'll work too,
as long as they take human(?) sacrifice.
L666[14:00:28] <MGR> My
choice?
<MGR> My
choice?L667[14:10:09] <payonel> Inari: i saw this
in dresden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwi_6DxWuMw
L668[14:10:09] <MichiBot> Großer Garten
Dresden | Gärten in Sachsen | Schlösserland Sachsen | length:
41s | Likes: 9 Dislikes:
0 Views: 1,964 | by
Schlösserland Sachsen | Published On 9/9/2016
L669[14:11:17] <Inari> payonel: the wayt
it's filmed somehow makes it look like some 3d animation or
miniature model thing.
L670[14:11:27] <payonel> hehe
L671[14:11:50] <payonel> i was looking for
a good picture of it, but in real life it is much more amazing than
the pictures
L672[14:12:00] <payonel> then i found that
video, i felt it gave a better impression
L673[14:12:15] <Inari> ^^
L674[14:19:59] <payonel> what version of
jdk should i use to build OC?
L675[14:22:25] <Vexatos> latestest
L676[14:23:28] <payonel> apt-get install
openjdk-9-jdk gave me `javac -version` => "javac
9-internal" and ./gradlew (in OC) complains that it can't
understand what version that is
L677[14:23:46] <payonel> because it
doesn't like that 9-internal crap
L678[14:25:15] <MGR> Go to
Java 10 then ?
<MGR> Go to
Java 10 then ?L680[14:27:55] <MGR> Now
THAT is a fancy-looking motherboard
<MGR> Now
THAT is a fancy-looking motherboardL681[14:29:05] <SubThread> I'm more into
coffee @MGR
L682[14:29:17] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L683[14:32:16] <SubThread> Coffee Lake
@MGR
L684[14:32:37] <MGR> I'm
pretty sure that's just Kaby Lake with more cores
<MGR> I'm
pretty sure that's just Kaby Lake with more coresL685[14:33:02] <MGR> And if
you're looking for more cores, you should be looking at Ryzen
<MGR> And if
you're looking for more cores, you should be looking at RyzenL686[14:33:17] <MGR>
Disclaimer: I use an i7-6850K
<MGR>
Disclaimer: I use an i7-6850KL687[14:35:15] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKMRyWWhsk for some
reason I find this quite amusing :P
L688[14:35:15] <MichiBot> Dat bass tho.
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L689[14:35:19] <SubThread> Actually, I'm
good until ice lake
L690[14:36:32] <MGR>
SubThread, inb4 Ice Lake continues this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59b8873a2b615a0db315c531d388a2375d8a0fb521d6ae84fbf5fdbd7f320c96.png?w=800&h=890
<MGR>
SubThread, inb4 Ice Lake continues this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59b8873a2b615a0db315c531d388a2375d8a0fb521d6ae84fbf5fdbd7f320c96.png?w=800&h=890L691[14:36:56] <MGR> Intel
has done good work, but they've squandered their lead, and AMD is
FINALLY catching up
<MGR> Intel
has done good work, but they've squandered their lead, and AMD is
FINALLY catching upL692[14:37:31] <MGR> 10nm
could be big
<MGR> 10nm
could be bigL693[14:38:23] <SubThread> Well, I wasn't
trying to get into Intel vs AMD, and yes, it's good that AMD isn't
2 generations behind (performance wise)
L694[14:39:40] <MGR> Oh, I
thought you were with the Coffee Lake comments
<MGR> Oh, I
thought you were with the Coffee Lake commentsL695[14:40:03] <MGR> Before
Ryzen, AMD was more like 4 generations behind. They got....
Bulldozed
<MGR> Before
Ryzen, AMD was more like 4 generations behind. They got....
BulldozedL696[14:40:09] <MGR> badum
tish
<MGR> badum
tishL697[14:40:17] <SubThread> Nah, it's just
that some news regarding coffee lake reached my ears
L698[14:40:45] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL699[14:40:50] <SubThread> like
today
L700[14:41:02] <MGR> What
did the news say?
<MGR> What
did the news say?L701[14:41:32] <SubThread> Clock speeds,
some rumors about motherboards and so on
L702[14:41:34] <SubThread> and the
cores
L703[14:41:43] <SubThread> and
prices
L704[14:41:53] <MGR>
Ahhhhhh
<MGR>
AhhhhhhL705[14:42:15] <Mettaton_Fab> bulldozer was the Netburst
of AMD
<Mettaton_Fab> bulldozer was the Netburst
of AMDL706[14:43:02] <MGR>
Agreed
<MGR>
AgreedL707[14:43:16] <Mettaton_Fab> got super hot, wasnt very
good
<Mettaton_Fab> got super hot, wasnt very
goodL708[14:43:35] <Mettaton_Fab> the Core 2 series is based
on pentium 3
<Mettaton_Fab> the Core 2 series is based
on pentium 3L709[14:43:59] <MGR> And so
is every Intel arch since
<MGR> And so
is every Intel arch sinceL710[14:44:31] <MGR>
Hopefully Ryzen will extract more competition and performance
<MGR>
Hopefully Ryzen will extract more competition and performanceL711[14:45:28] <Vexatos> payonel, java 9
doesn't count
L712[14:46:01] <Vexatos> java 9 isn't
officially out yet >_>
L713[14:46:07] <Vexatos> by which I mean
recommended builds
L714[14:46:23] <Vexatos>
"latest" means "latest java 8"
L715[14:46:26] <Michiyo> j8.. something
:p
L716[14:46:37] <Vexatos> 8u144
L717[14:46:52] <Mettaton_Fab> the Pentium D and Celeron D
are both just Pentium 4 with a bit of stuff, right?
<Mettaton_Fab> the Pentium D and Celeron D
are both just Pentium 4 with a bit of stuff, right?L718[14:47:50] ⇦
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L720[14:53:22] <MGR> Not
sure, will research
<MGR> Not
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L722[15:00:08] <ben_mkiv> pentium d just
adds a 2 ohm resistor to increase power usage to >95W TDP
L723[15:01:37] <ben_mkiv> that thing
probably saved my life at cold nights...
L724[15:02:10] <ben_mkiv> oh theres one
with 130W TDP xD
L725[15:02:36] <SubThread> did you cook
food with it ben?
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L727[15:03:14] <ben_mkiv> nope
L728[15:03:53] <ben_mkiv> but maybe the
landlord was suspect of my low hot water bills, because i didnt had
to use the heater much
L729[15:08:12] <Inari> I mean, worst case
you could have just used an electric heater
L730[15:11:26] <SubThread> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/forum/40-servers/ |
Do anyone happen to know if any of those servers are active?
L731[15:12:17] <Lizzy>
unsure, ask in the threads
<Lizzy>
unsure, ask in the threadsL732[15:14:43] <ben_mkiv> MGR got a active
server with OC stuff, but its on 1.7.10
L733[15:15:17] <ben_mkiv> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/949-yuon-survival-1710-oc-other-tech-and-magic-mods-server/
L734[15:16:41] <SubThread> sounds
good
L735[15:17:14] <Michiyo> @MGR doesn't
exist.
L736[15:17:18] <Michiyo> :P
L737[15:17:40] <Michiyo> We sacrificed him
a bit ago.
L738[15:18:24] <SubThread> can't download
the mod pack without a google account it seems @ben_mkiv
L739[15:18:39] <SubThread> and the mod
list is broken: https://gist.github.com/MajorGeneralRelativity/8dbe221dc8f07805cc25b32437cb172d
L740[15:18:40] <ben_mkiv> join their
discord afaik theres another download link
L741[15:18:47] <ben_mkiv> i've played few
days ago on it
L742[15:19:11] <ben_mkiv> and there are
other players around, so its still active
L743[15:19:36] <SubThread> great tip
L744[15:19:51] <MGR>
SubThread, hi
<MGR>
SubThread, hiL745[15:20:42] <MGR> I need
to update that forum thread
<MGR> I need
to update that forum threadL746[15:20:55] <SubThread> Hey MGR, I just
joined your irc channel
L747[15:21:07] <MGR> I
recommend joining the Discord
<MGR> I
recommend joining the DiscordL748[15:21:41] <SubThread> Darn it! All
this time avoiding discord. ^^
L749[15:21:49] <MGR>
Discord is great
<MGR>
Discord is greatL750[15:22:02] <ben_mkiv> from all the
fance new stuff, discord is actually the first one i liked xD
L751[15:22:11] <ben_mkiv> fancy
L752[15:22:20] <SubThread> I'm a
mumbler
L753[15:22:51] <ben_mkiv> you dont have to
use the voice stuff, if its about that
L754[15:23:06] <SubThread> sure
L755[15:23:16] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L756[15:23:47] <ben_mkiv> most people just
use it to chat, while it has scrollback, channels, and so on
L757[15:23:49] <SubThread> anyways MGR,
I'm preparing a 1.7 mc instance, waiting for a working mod pack
link.
L758[15:24:09] <MGR> It's
on the Discord
<MGR> It's
on the DiscordL759[15:24:12] <MGR>
:)
<MGR>
:)L760[15:24:25] <MGR> Maybe
IRC
<MGR> Maybe
IRCL761[15:25:03] <SubThread> version 2.13
right?
L762[15:25:29] <SubThread> found that on
irc
L763[15:28:09] <MGR> Uh, I
think
<MGR> Uh, I
thinkL764[15:28:30] <ben_mkiv> i think mgr
thinks that discord is the way to go :P
L765[15:28:49] <MGR> He's
not wrong
<MGR> He's
not wrongL766[15:29:49] <SubThread> yes yes
L767[15:29:56] <ben_mkiv> doesnt anyone
want to host some small server for me? :P
L768[15:30:08] <ben_mkiv> just oc + latest
openglasses build, to code some virtual shop system
L769[15:30:23] <ben_mkiv> dont want to do
that in singleplayer ;_;
L770[15:31:04] <SubThread> actually, I may
be able to do that in the future ben
L771[15:31:19] <SubThread> have some extra
machines doing nothing
L772[15:32:50] <SubThread> Almost done
@MGR with the modpack
L773[15:36:05] <SubThread> and on
discord...
L774[16:03:22] <S3> Guys is there a
project red / redlogic like mod for 1.12.1?
L775[16:04:56] <S3> hm. Vexatos hasn't
updated integrated circuits
L776[16:05:05] <S3> I need something to
make compact logic circuits with
L777[16:07:17] <Vexatos> what's integrated
circuits?
L778[16:07:32] <Vexatos> S3: OpenComputers
has microcontrollers :P
L779[16:07:58] <SevenRoses> right thats
all the complexity you want in one block!
L780[16:10:07] <MajGenRelativity> ~w
filesystem
L781[16:10:07] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L782[16:10:42] <S3> Vexatos: too
complicated
L783[16:10:46] <ben_mkiv> rftools also has
some logic stuff
L784[16:10:49] <S3> I like to just rip out
logic circuits
L785[16:10:54] <S3> with logic gates
L786[16:11:44] <S3> Vexatos: for some
reason I thought integrated circuits was yours but I remember now
who's it is
L788[16:11:59] <ben_mkiv> and theres super
circuit maker or something
L789[16:12:18] <ben_mkiv> oh. 1.10.2
only
L790[16:13:46] <S3> yeah
L791[16:13:52] <S3> he's updating it to
1.12 right now
L792[16:13:55] <S3> I wish it was
out
L793[16:14:03] <Michiyo> "Eating 3
pizzas a day is more healthy for you than being dead"
L794[16:14:05] <S3> SCM is amazing
L795[16:14:11] <gamax92> ~w Eating 3
pizzas a day is more healthy for you than being dead
L796[16:14:12] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:solar_generator_upgrade (
I tried D: )
L797[16:14:14] <ben_mkiv> well, the
RFTools logic gate is pretty neat for small stuff
L798[16:14:21] <S3> rftools logic?
L799[16:14:22] <gamax92> Michiyo: clearly
the answer is solar generators
L800[16:14:22] <S3> hmm
L801[16:14:25] <S3> never used it
L802[16:14:27] <Michiyo> lol gamax92
L803[16:14:37] <ben_mkiv> well it adds
nand/and/nor/...
L804[16:14:42] <ben_mkiv> in a single
block
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L806[16:15:06] <gamax92> but can it add
several gates in a specific combination in one block?
L807[16:15:14] <ben_mkiv> no
L808[16:17:05] <ben_mkiv> also cant find
any docs about the gate on the internet, but its part of the
mod
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L810[16:17:55] <ben_mkiv> maybe
rftools-control is worth a look
L811[16:19:26] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/rftools-control
L812[16:23:57] <S3> oh I've heard of
this!
L813[16:24:01] <S3> infina: ^
L814[16:24:09] <S3> rftools control may be
what we're after
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L816[16:37:45] <infina> S3: check the
list. Should be on it
L817[16:38:17] <S3> I think it is
L818[16:47:53] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: I may be
able to help you with the server
L819[16:48:16] <Izaya> There's an
OpenGlasses release for 1.11.2 right?
L820[16:49:18] <ben_mkiv> not the one i
want to
L821[16:49:52] <ben_mkiv> my changes arent
merged yet, and actually i only made them for 1.10.2
L822[16:49:58] <Izaya> ah
L823[16:50:01] *
Izaya hmms
L824[16:50:02] <ben_mkiv> may do a 1.11.2
build before porting to 1.12
L825[16:50:14] <Izaya> can probably still
manage whatever
L826[16:50:14] <ben_mkiv> is that version
played a lot?
L827[16:50:27] <ben_mkiv> to me it looked
like most packs use 1.10.2 or 1.12.1
L828[16:50:43] <Izaya> oh it was just the
same version as the server I was playing on at the time
L829[16:51:22] <Izaya> I have a server
that's just OC + Computronics
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L831[16:51:51] <Izaya> I'll look into
1.10.2 when I get home
L832[16:52:58] <Izaya> fair warning it's
on a VM in Australia
L833[16:53:01] <ben_mkiv> well 1.12.x
would work, too. i'm planing to port anyways
L834[16:53:08] <Izaya> but at least it's
Linux
L835[16:54:31] *
Izaya wonders what bullshit changes 1.12 introduces
L836[16:54:59] <ben_mkiv> 1.13 will be
interesting
L837[16:55:07] <ben_mkiv> as they change a
lot of stuff
L838[16:57:22] <ben_mkiv> so for example,
damage of items isnt stored in the itemids metadata anymore
L839[16:58:59] <Izaya> oh huh, that's why
1.12 is broken on OS X
L840[16:59:07] <Izaya> it adds TTS
L841[16:59:15] <Izaya> thanks,
Microsoft!
L842[16:59:17] <ben_mkiv> for
computronics?
L843[16:59:21] <ben_mkiv> or just
mc?
L844[16:59:25] <Izaya> just MC
L845[16:59:54] <Izaya> had people run into
issues with modded 1.12 before because of that
L846[17:00:01] <Izaya> MC wouldn't even
launch
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L853[20:43:04] <AmandaC> %choose be good
or be bad
L854[20:43:06] <MichiBot> AmandaC: be
bad
L855[21:07:41] <ben_mkiv|afk> is michibot
liable?
L856[21:07:46] ***
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L862[22:11:52] <Saphire> Izaya: inb4
Windows-only libs
L863[22:14:19] <Saphire> Izaya:
>/difficulty now only accepts string IDs, not shorthand or
numeric.
L864[22:14:57] <Izaya> but why
L865[22:15:35] <Saphire> Because
"numbers are confusing" or some bullshit
L866[22:16:12] <Saphire> >/clear
<target> [<item>] [<data>] [<count>]
[<nbt>] will become /clear <target> [<item>]
[<count>]
L867[22:16:15] <Saphire> ...wat
L868[22:16:17] <Saphire> Why
L869[22:17:03] <Izaya> no item data
L870[22:17:32] <Saphire> ...huh?
L871[22:17:38] <Saphire> But why removal
of NBT?
L872[22:17:52] <Saphire> >The arcane
shorthand names have been renamed (for selectors)
L873[22:17:55] <Saphire> GUYS GUYS
GUYS
L874[22:17:58] <Saphire> HAVE YOU FUCKING
HEARD OF
L875[22:18:01] <Saphire> ALIASES?
L876[22:18:49] <Saphire> Izaya: oooh, they
moved NBT to the block name/definition itself... for some reason
.-.
L877[22:18:59] <Saphire> Again... ALIASeS,
DARN IT
L878[22:20:05] <Izaya> stupidity
L879[22:20:08] <Izaya> nothing new
L880[22:20:34] <Saphire> >The ability
to change biome dependent colors (such as foliage, water, and the
sky) without needing mods.
L881[22:20:44] <Saphire> Geeze, it took
only what?
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L883[22:25:06] *
Izaya hmms
L884[22:25:19] <Izaya> b1.8 was late
2012?
L885[22:25:29] <Izaya> or was it late
2011?
L886[22:35:22] <Saphire> So 5 years
\o/
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