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L1[00:02:49] <ben_mkiv> here, too
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L5[01:15:40] <ackley14> heya, having some issues with event.pull("modem_message") anybody able to help me out?
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L7[01:32:54] <ZeekDaGeek> Lizzy accidentally tagged me when I hadn't said anything since Aug 2nd. I've been scrolling through so much text as a result to find the context. xD
L8[01:34:41] <ZeekDaGeek> Things I've learned from glacing through a month of logs... You guys are obsessed with nekos.
L9[01:34:51] <ZeekDaGeek> I think they get talked about more then code.
L10[01:35:35] <Syrren> @ZeekDaGeek: that's mostly Inari and company. :-P
L11[02:02:10] <ZeekDaGeek> That does sound about right. ?
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L17[03:57:46] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnxSTShwDdQ
L18[03:57:47] <MichiBot> A $400 Keyboard with NO ACTUAL Keys! | length: 7m 21s | Likes: 25,125 Dislikes: 1,334 Views: 829,229 | by Linus Tech Tips | Published On 17/9/2017
L19[03:59:48] <ben_mkiv> i would prefer real boobs
L20[04:00:59] <Forecaster> I think I prefer a real keyboard
L21[04:02:31] <Forecaster> you know, you could emulate this thing using a controller with two analog sticks...
L22[04:03:25] <ben_mkiv> yea, the hardware is cheaper than a keyboard with real buttons xD
L23[04:03:39] <Izaya> steam pinwheel keyboard anyone?
L24[04:04:07] <Izaya> that thing is like the best controller keyboard
L25[04:05:03] <Forecaster> I've never seen that before
L26[04:05:33] <Izaya> http://www.totalhtpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Steam-Big-Picture-Keyboard.jpg
L27[04:05:40] <Izaya> I wish there was a standalone version tbh
L28[04:05:42] <Forecaster> yeah I looked it up
L29[04:07:25] <ben_mkiv> thats actually the best onscreenkeyboard i've seen so far
L30[04:07:36] <ben_mkiv> for analog controller input^
L31[04:07:48] <Izaya> yeah it's p. great
L32[04:08:12] <Izaya> It'd be nice if I could use it with a controller-as-a-keyboard program
L33[04:08:36] <ben_mkiv> wonder how devices for disabled people work
L34[04:08:39] <ben_mkiv> are they that advanced?
L35[04:08:49] <ben_mkiv> they could learn from steam^^ :D
L36[04:09:10] <Izaya> of course
L37[04:09:22] <Izaya> there's always the possibility that Valve patented it or some shit
L38[04:10:00] <ben_mkiv> yea, but valve aint ubisoft or ea :P
L39[04:10:06] * Izaya shrugs
L40[04:10:15] <ben_mkiv> so they may be cool with it using it for such applications
L41[04:10:20] <Izaya> If you had a FOSS standalone program I doubt they'd lose their shit at you eitheir
L42[04:53:40] <g> some PSP homebrew did something similar
L43[04:53:42] <g> steam is hardly the first
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L45[05:16:03] <Forecaster> the tooltip of the remote terminal is wrong
L46[05:17:06] <Lizzy> or, perhaps it is you that is wrong
L47[05:19:09] <Forecaster> na, I'm pretty sure it's wrong :P
L48[05:20:58] <Saphire> >Linus Tech
L49[05:21:10] <Saphire> ...I am mildly annoyed by the
L50[05:21:17] <Saphire> *that
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L52[06:00:55] * Izaya hmms
L53[06:01:01] <Izaya> How hard is it to generate QR codes?
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L55[06:23:32] <Inari> Izaya: Not that hard iirc
L56[06:32:36] <Izaya> so there are existing lua QR code libraries
L57[06:32:39] <Izaya> just... 55K
L58[06:35:12] * Saphire flops
L59[06:35:19] <Saphire> I wanna have a domain o.o
L60[06:53:23] <Forecaster> so buy one
L61[06:54:21] <Inari> %give MichiBot Saphire's domain
L62[06:54:22] * MichiBot accepts Saphire's domain and adds it to her inventory
L63[06:54:41] <Inari> @Forecaster Human kings don't tend to want to hand their domain over to a dragon
L64[06:55:10] <Forecaster> but if you give them enough gold
L65[07:07:07] <Saphire> %slap Inari
L66[07:07:13] <Saphire> Aww
L67[07:07:16] <Saphire> %pet Inari
L68[07:07:17] * MichiBot brushes Inari with a quantum hug. Inari recovers 7 health!
L69[07:11:13] <Inari> %give MichiBot a subatomic hug
L70[07:11:14] * MichiBot accepts the subatomic hug and adds it to her inventory
L71[07:18:47] <Saphire> ....huh
L72[07:19:54] <Saphire> Apparently lisp's and works just like Lua's: "x and y and z" would give either z, or nil or false or whatever is false. and in list (and x y z) would return z or nil o..o If I understood things right...
L73[07:22:28] * Saphire gasps
L74[07:22:44] <Saphire> Lua is lisp pretending to be C-like! Just kidding
L75[07:28:51] <Syrren> Saphire: which lisp?
L76[07:29:11] <Syrren> Guile, Racket, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Common Lisp...?
L77[07:29:58] <Saphire> CL o..o
L78[07:30:00] * Saphire hides
L79[07:30:51] <Syrren> right. (and t foo) == foo
L80[07:31:04] <Syrren> (or foo nil) == foo
L81[07:31:15] <Syrren> (unless foo is nil)
L82[07:31:57] <Inari> Is that last line a lisp command? ;)
L83[07:32:02] <Syrren> nope
L84[07:32:05] <Syrren> although it could be
L85[07:32:30] <Syrren> s/^(unless/;; (unless/
L86[07:32:31] <MichiBot> Syrren: Invalid regex Unclosed group near index 8
L87[07:32:34] <Syrren> s/^\(unless/;; (unless/
L88[07:32:34] <MichiBot> <Syrren> ;; (unless foo is nil)
L89[07:32:37] <Syrren> there
L90[07:32:52] <Syrren> ; is the lisp comment character
L91[07:33:39] <Syrren> Inari: lisp does have an "unless" statement -- (unless foo bar) -- which is equivalent to (if (not foo) bar (values))
L92[07:45:02] <g> most lisps do in fact
L93[07:45:07] <g> I think clojure uses "if-not"
L94[07:46:14] <Syrren> I hesitate to call Clojure a lisp, tbh
L95[07:47:34] <g> by any definition it is, though
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L97[07:47:41] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L98[07:47:41] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/2cR2QDUvnV4 - RailcraftLP [Episode 42] - Server and Client
L99[07:47:41] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on this video: building,industrialcraft2,railcraft,cabling,opencomputers,elevator
L100[07:47:41] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP- [Episode 42] - Server and Client | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster | Published On 18/9/2017
L101[07:47:58] <Syrren> >length: 0 milliseconds
L102[07:48:10] <Syrren> Forecaster: world's shortest episode ^ ?
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L105[07:53:18] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L106[07:53:18] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/2cR2QDUvnV4 - RailcraftLP [Episode 42] - Server and Client
L107[07:53:18] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on this video: building,industrialcraft2,railcraft,cabling,opencomputers,elevator
L108[07:53:19] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP- [Episode 42] - Server and Client | length: 36m 2s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster | Published On 18/9/2017
L109[07:53:52] <Syrren> :-P
L110[07:54:16] <Forecaster> blame michibot
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L112[07:56:04] <Syrren> %give MichiBot the World's Shortest Let's Play Episode
L113[07:56:05] * MichiBot accepts the World's Shortest Let's Play Episode and adds it to her inventory
L114[07:56:53] <g> I always used to want to do let's play and similar types of videos
L115[07:57:00] <g> but my health makes it close to impossible
L116[07:57:08] <g> nobody wants to listen to an asthmatic coughing avery 4 words
L117[07:57:13] <Syrren> ;(
L118[07:57:18] <g> every*
L119[07:57:39] <g> but it's ok I can steal modpack ideas from videos
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L121[08:10:38] <Forecaster> you could play without talking
L122[08:12:31] <Mimiru> Blame the youtube api..
L123[08:12:37] <Mimiru> it returned 0 for the length
L124[08:12:48] <Forecaster> :P
L125[08:13:21] <Mimiru> :P
L126[08:13:24] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9p1p3bTSI
L127[08:13:24] <MichiBot> OSIS+ Finest Micro Survival Kit PERIOD! | length: 8m 26s | Likes: 22,172 Dislikes: 2,150 Views: 973,946 | by Wranglerstar | Published On 7/10/2015
L128[08:13:40] <Forecaster> the title may or may not be very sarcastic
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L130[08:40:14] <Michiyo> Bleh...
L131[08:41:01] <20kdc> Forecaster: to summarize: *nothing in the kit works*
L132[08:41:24] <20kdc> ok, I tell a lie. The arbitrary hair comb works.
L133[09:03:42] <Forecaster> woo, elevator setup complete
L134[09:03:50] <Forecaster> well, the first two floors
L135[09:04:21] <Forecaster> (just finished recording the next episode with the rest of the setup)
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L137[09:08:04] <Forecaster> @20kdc a comb is *the* most important survival item
L138[09:08:13] <Forecaster> #MineCombs
L139[09:08:34] <Forecaster> #HairCraft
L140[09:09:00] <Forecaster> Vexatos: We have a working elevator :D
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L142[09:19:43] <Vexatos> oh no
L143[09:19:47] <Vexatos> meanwhile I'm still busy >_>
L144[09:20:20] <Forecaster> at least I document everything so you can keep up :P
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L146[09:46:29] <Inari> "Let's find out why IE11 hates this translate3d"
L147[09:46:47] <Inari> "Oh it's because it doesn't support -webkit-transform and i typo'd the translate3d at tranlate3d in the non-webkit one
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L150[10:06:00] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L151[10:06:01] <MichiBot> Current weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 84.9°F/29.4°C Feels Like: 107°F/41°C Current Humidity: 100% Wind: From the East 1.0 Mph/1.6 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L152[10:06:11] <Michiyo> o_O
L153[10:06:13] <Michiyo> no..
L154[10:06:15] <Michiyo> can't be
L155[10:06:37] <Michiyo> ok yeah
L156[10:06:40] <Michiyo> the feels like is broken
L157[10:06:42] <Michiyo> wtf api
L158[10:06:52] <Michiyo> oh.. the current temp is too
L159[10:06:53] <Michiyo> wtf
L160[10:06:59] * Michiyo glares at the weather apiu
L161[10:07:03] <Michiyo> s/u//
L162[10:07:03] <MichiBot> * Michiyo glares at the weather api
L163[10:07:09] <Ben> 100% humidity \o/
L164[10:07:42] <Michiyo> I think the API is fubar ATM... that's GOTTA be old data..
L165[10:08:08] <Michiyo> humidity is 71% on the site I source the API from... so the API is broken..
L166[10:11:36] <S3> APIs are bad
L167[10:12:09] <Inari> S3: ?.?
L168[10:13:59] <S3> Heh. According to some really cool people, that is. I watched this interesting talk and a major part of it was discussing how APIs are horrible and we should feel horrible; and that it's much more sane and dependable to use finite state machines to handle interaction between things instead.
L169[10:14:28] <S3> see if I can't find it
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L171[10:15:20] <g> Sounds like people that talk about "monads" all day
L172[10:16:39] <S3> Well, at first, it made no sense to me, but then when I sat down and drew it out on paper, I realized, holy crap, it does solve a lot of issues, including the issue that "device A may not properly implement Y"
L173[10:17:17] <S3> Because if at any moment the state of the communication becomes invalid, the communication stops, as it is incompatible.
L174[10:17:33] <S3> this is useful for compliancy and security
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L176[10:19:45] <S3> man I can't find that video
L177[10:24:29] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/1891/
L178[10:24:29] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Obsolete Technology Posted on: 9/18/2017
L179[10:29:07] <infina> S3: ...
L180[10:30:06] <S3> infina: we gots 1.12 UPS?!
L181[10:30:15] <S3> infina: I found the best spawn ever
L182[10:32:09] <infina> I saw. Any other 1.12.1 mods you want to add?
L183[10:33:19] <infina> Cell connection here is crap.
L184[10:35:08] <S3> OMG Clay soldiers got ported
L185[10:35:11] <S3> but we don't -need- that
L186[10:36:11] <infina> Hmm...
L187[10:36:59] <S3> do we really need industrial craft?
L188[10:37:09] <S3> what's so good about IC now that other mods don't provide?
L189[10:38:33] <S3> I don't remember if clay soldiers is actually useful so I wouldn't worry about it. I just remember it being a neat toy mod
L190[10:39:19] <S3> let's see, we have harvestcraft..
L191[10:42:12] <S3> infina: do you remember that mod that was on the old vemi server that forced us to cast our own weapons? that was really cool
L192[10:51:47] <gamax92> Can't wake up
L193[10:52:44] <S3> gamax92: go to bed
L194[10:53:05] <Michiyo> wake me up inside
L195[10:53:56] <S3> infina: oh! no Proect Red or Red logic? hmm. Super Circuit maker should be out, or if not out soon- which could replace those. Also, if you don't have either of those, at least redstone paste should be installed for on the wall redstone
L196[11:19:31] <Backslash> Guys is it possible to connect my computer to computer port from extreme reactors without having the computer directly on the port?
L197[11:19:43] <Michiyo> use a cable..?
L198[11:19:52] <Backslash> The cable doesnt connect.
L199[11:19:58] <Michiyo> use an adapter?
L200[11:20:08] <Michiyo> (the cable should connect.. it used to I swear...)
L201[11:20:21] <Backslash> I tried that, but its not working. Do i need to configure the adapter?
L202[11:20:46] <Michiyo> (I wrote the original Big Reactors OC interaction code.... which Extreme Reactors should still be using.. so unless they fucked it up big time.. it SHOULD still work..)
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L204[11:21:18] <Backslash> https://i.imgur.com/oI0h7mI.png
L205[11:21:20] <Backslash> Not connecting :P
L206[11:21:32] <Kodos> #notourfault
L207[11:21:43] <Michiyo> So, looks like they fucked it up.. lol
L208[11:22:35] <Backslash> And if i place an adapter on the port and connect it with cables to my computer i get an error because there is no 'br_reactor'
L209[11:22:36] <Backslash> :/
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L211[11:23:18] <Michiyo> DO you get any errors from OC when you load a world from OC saying it couldn't run a class transformer, or anything?
L212[11:23:43] <Backslash> Nope
L213[11:24:08] <Backslash> But i just tested to run the computer directly at the port and i get the same error.
L214[11:24:13] <Backslash> Seems like something isnt working. :/
L215[11:24:28] <Michiyo> Yeah, it sounds like they've broken their component stuff...
L216[11:27:25] <Michiyo> IDK if ER still uses simple component or not..
L217[11:27:39] <Michiyo> and I don't feel like digging through their code to find out either :/ lol
L218[11:27:54] <Michiyo> do you have any other OC addons you could try..?
L219[11:28:04] <Backslash> Not sure :D
L220[11:28:15] <Michiyo> pre-made mod pack?
L221[11:28:18] <Backslash> I'm only using OC to monitor my reactor.
L222[11:28:35] <Backslash> Its my own, but i dont know which mods are supporting OC.
L223[11:28:45] <Michiyo> ahh
L224[11:29:43] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKBUYTzXUAEXo2_.jpg:large cute
L225[11:30:15] <Michiyo> Backslash, open a command prompt cd into the mods directory and type dir > mods.txt
L226[11:30:22] <Michiyo> and then pastebin the content of mods.txt
L227[11:30:40] <Michiyo> you can also just open your mods directory, shift-click a open area of the directory and click oipen command prompt
L228[11:30:46] <Backslash> Michiyo thats probably easier http://upclan.de/modpack/info/
L229[11:30:47] <Backslash> ;)
L230[11:31:55] <Michiyo> that'll work
L231[11:31:59] <Forecaster> huh
L232[11:32:16] <Forecaster> are MCU's supposed to eat the EEPROM's in creative mode?
L233[11:32:58] <Michiyo> IIRC some Mekanismstuff has OC compat...
L234[11:33:16] <Forecaster> and in survival mode...
L235[11:33:17] <Forecaster> wut
L236[11:33:26] <Backslash> But how would that solve my problem that OC cant find the reactor?^^
L237[11:33:36] <Michiyo> It would let you see if OTHER stuff works..
L238[11:34:30] <Michiyo> if OC isn't seeing components from external mods, then the class transformer might not be running (assuming they're using simplecomponent)
L239[11:34:44] <Michiyo> I still think ER has broken something though :P
L240[11:35:11] <Backslash> I think thats correct. :/
L241[11:37:06] <Backslash> Is there any way to check all connected things? Maybe ER has changed any names.
L242[11:37:55] <Michiyo> at the shell type components
L243[11:38:29] <Forecaster> nope, this isn't working... the MCU just eats the eeprom and wont start...
L244[11:38:49] <Backslash> gpu, internet, eeprom, computer, filesystem (2x), screen, keyboard
L245[11:38:51] <Backslash> :(
L246[11:40:46] <Kodos> Forecaster, try crafting the MCU with the eeprom
L247[11:40:53] <Kodos> Not sure if that even works but meh
L248[11:41:13] <Forecaster> doesn't work either
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L250[11:42:41] <Backslash> Michiyo, seems like its not ER's issue. :P
L251[11:43:03] <Forecaster> even one where the only code is `error("success")` it's still failing
L252[11:43:29] <Forecaster> Backslash that helps literally nobody
L253[11:43:33] <Michiyo> I really doubt either of these issues are anywhere near remotely related.
L254[11:44:18] <Forecaster> the ER thing and the MCU thing?
L255[11:44:45] <Michiyo> yes
L256[11:45:12] <Forecaster> who said they were? oO
L257[11:45:12] <Backslash> Michiyo, quote from ZeroNoRyouki: There is currently a bug in OC that's preventing the computer ports to be recognized.
L258[11:54:04] <Forecaster> well this puts a big stick in my wheel
L259[11:54:16] <Forecaster> :|
L260[11:55:15] <Kodos> A bug in OC?
L261[11:55:21] <Kodos> Ask for details
L262[11:55:55] <Backslash> @Kodos https://github.com/ZeroNoRyouki/BigReactors/issues/132
L263[11:56:54] <Forecaster> why did they close it if it's not confirmed fixed yet...
L264[11:57:03] <Backslash> idk
L265[11:59:56] <gamax92> Inari: need moar cutes
L266[12:00:44] <Forecaster> bleh, need to try updating and see if the issue persists, but not today
L267[12:00:45] <Mimiru> I'd LOVE to know what "bug" they're talking about in OC..
L268[12:07:09] <gamax92> reddit is overloaded :|
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L270[12:36:18] <Michiyo> Man... the ATTinys are... tiny
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L272[12:39:54] <20kdc> Michiyo: and ATMegas are just plain massive
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L274[12:40:27] <20kdc> when you look at an ATMega, do you just see a giant stomping robot taking over London?
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L277[12:45:19] <SubThread> So, computer/robot filesystem is found in \saves\Worldname\opencomputers. But where is the EEPROMs for drones and such saved?
L278[12:46:28] <Michiyo> EEPROMS are stored in the NBT
L279[12:46:41] <Michiyo> so, not in the actual filesystem.. you'd have to find the entity in the NBT of the chunk
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L282[12:49:16] <SubThread> Hmm, I want a faster way than re-flashing roms all the time (I have tried remove control via network, but that's more for testing commands and not whole scripts)
L283[12:50:37] <SubThread> How do the seasoned oc players work with drones?
L284[12:51:02] <gamax92> remote bios via network
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L286[12:51:38] <gamax92> literally nothing about the network system limits you to doing single commands or single function calls, you can upload an entire bios to the drone for it to load and execute
L287[12:51:40] <SubThread> alright, time to learn some lua file commands then, sending whole scripts that is
L288[12:52:19] <SubThread> knowledge limits me ^^
L289[12:54:25] <Forecaster> The solution is gaining more knowledge
L290[12:55:17] <Forecaster> Stealing it by consuming brains is an acceptable method according to 9/10 zombies
L291[12:55:53] <SubThread> i don't think that's legal where i come from Forecaster
L292[12:56:25] <payonel> ackley14: did you get your event.pull("modem_message") question answered?
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L294[13:02:13] <payonel> SubThread: "lua file commands" ?
L295[13:03:52] <SubThread> yes, like io.open() and stuff like that
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L297[13:13:53] <gamax92> SubThread: well, a good start would be to start referring to these functions as well, functions.
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L300[13:28:09] <SubThread> acually, i meant to call them file operations gamax92
L301[13:33:05] <SubThread> but this shouldn't be too hard, just have a "server" listening on a certain port, and when a client boots up and says hi, the server sends the bios from file to the drone. Which blindly saves it to ram and runs it.
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L303[13:53:59] <Forecaster> there's one of those on oppm I believe
L304[13:54:09] <Forecaster> a remote script program that is
L305[13:55:39] <Vexatos> almost done with my reports for last week D:
L306[14:05:42] <SubThread> Oh, is that for whole scripts or just single commands Forecaster
L307[14:08:25] <SubThread> are you perhaps talking about "net-flash"
L308[14:08:28] <SubThread> ?
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L311[14:33:48] <Forecaster> Vexatos: so by next week you'll be done with this weeks reports? :P
L312[14:34:20] <Vexatos> no lab course this week
L313[14:46:01] <Forecaster> I need to acquire a source of dark oak
L314[15:01:37] <Vexatos> I would recommend a dark oak tree for that purpose
L315[15:01:43] <Vexatos> It tends to be a good source of that kind
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L319[15:03:48] <Forecaster> but maybe if I argue with a birch for long enough it will give me dark oak wood
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L321[15:13:03] <Forecaster> I also need to decide on a new series to replace one of Enter the Gungeon's days...
L322[15:20:16] <Skye> @Forecaster: Hyperdimension Neptunia! :P
L323[15:20:36] <Inari> https://twitter.com/NoBugsHare/status/909878465368911877 heh
L324[15:20:36] <MichiBot> Mon Sep 18 15:35:05 CDT 2017 @NoBugsHare: "Your game should be buildable from version control system, and the build should be playable"… https://t.co/xRvVjpS4rm
L325[15:22:02] <Forecaster> Skye: not really what I had in mind :P
L326[15:22:34] <Skye> Mini Metro?
L327[15:22:36] <Skye> OpenTTD?
L328[15:22:45] <Inari> Modded Skyrim
L329[15:23:27] <Vexatos> Every Touhou game and ripoff ever made
L330[15:23:48] <Inari> Bullet hell gamedev
L331[15:24:08] <Inari> @Forecaster Oh, Oh! I know! Nekopara
L332[15:24:34] <Forecaster> https://paste.pc-logix.com/yemamudefa
L333[15:24:36] <Forecaster> uh
L334[15:24:38] <Forecaster> probably not
L335[15:25:36] <Forecaster> I'll probably start with playing through Linelight
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L346[16:28:08] <Izaya> new install on my laptop has trim \o/
L347[16:28:35] <Forecaster> What's trim?
L348[16:28:57] <Izaya> the ATA TRIM command
L349[16:29:12] <Izaya> it deallocates unused sectors so the SSD can reuse them as it likes
L350[16:30:30] <Izaya> (kinda a pain to set up on a layer of dm-crypt but it's done now)
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L360[16:55:20] <Xlaits> Hello, everyone! I've got a bit of a hitch while coding a chat program, and I need a spot of help. Give me a sec to get it onto pastebin...
L361[16:56:47] <Xlaits> https://pastebin.com/MDXrU8nK
L362[16:57:42] <Xlaits> I'm getting an error around line 13, saying there's a function argument expected near "."
L363[16:58:20] <ben_mkiv> you want fs.open("/home/uname.txt")
L364[16:58:23] <ben_mkiv> instead of filesystem.
L365[16:58:43] <Xlaits> I did that, and it's still throwing the same error.
L366[16:58:59] <ben_mkiv> if uname == True then
L367[16:59:01] <ben_mkiv> for line 12
L368[16:59:47] <Xlaits> Oh yup. I've completely forgotten how to Lua...
L369[17:01:12] <Xlaits> So here's another interesting question... how do I create a file from within the program?
L370[17:01:38] <ben_mkiv> afaik just open it to write
L371[17:02:12] <Xlaits> ben_mkiv: What? I can do that?
L372[17:02:29] <ben_mkiv> probably
L373[17:02:37] <ben_mkiv> something like fs.open("foobar.txt", "w")
L374[17:03:00] <Xlaits> Because I know that it can return false, but let me see.
L375[17:04:36] <Inari> Also you dont really need the == true :P
L376[17:04:39] <Inari> if uname then
L377[17:05:19] <Xlaits> Inari: Thanks for that one.
L378[17:05:35] <Xlaits> I'm now getting an error around line 20.
L379[17:06:02] <ben_mkiv> "rw"
L380[17:06:02] <Inari> I mean
L381[17:06:03] <ben_mkiv> not rw
L382[17:06:06] <Inari> I doubt makeFile is a function
L383[17:06:07] <Inari> So :P
L384[17:06:15] <Xlaits> I did change my erroneous code
L385[17:06:22] <Xlaits> And I did remove that function.
L386[17:06:32] <Xlaits> It's the new line 20, which is 21.
L387[17:06:38] <ben_mkiv> also io.read()?
L388[17:06:39] <Inari> What ben said
L389[17:06:48] <ben_mkiv> for line 21 in your old code
L390[17:07:04] <Xlaits> Wow, I'm blind today...
L391[17:08:01] <ben_mkiv> we all got those days^^
L392[17:08:24] <ben_mkiv> someone told me to use stopwatch to measure runtime of my code, and i thought like wtf, should i sit down with a stopwatch?
L393[17:08:29] <ben_mkiv> but he meant some class helper
L394[17:08:30] <ben_mkiv> xD
L395[17:08:30] <Inari> Needs more coffee
L396[17:08:52] <Inari> I mean
L397[17:08:57] <Inari> siting down with a stopwatch works too
L398[17:08:57] <Inari> :P
L399[17:09:12] <ben_mkiv> yea, for some mods it would :D
L400[17:09:20] <Xlaits> Alright, after some faffing about, I have the line 20 reading "fs.write(io.read())"
L401[17:09:26] <Xlaits> It's still tossing an error.
L402[17:09:51] <Inari> Uhm
L403[17:09:54] <Inari> What :P
L404[17:09:59] <Xlaits> "Attempt to call field 'write'"
L405[17:10:18] <Inari> Well first off you'd want something like yourfile:write
L406[17:10:23] <Inari> Second, what are you doing D:
L407[17:10:48] <Xlaits> Wow, I feel dumb, then again, the documentation is terrible.
L408[17:11:02] <ben_mkiv> its pretty good at oc side :P
L409[17:11:14] <Xlaits> I'm using the OC docs.
L410[17:12:05] <Xlaits> I am using a framework for a chat I found on the forums as a base for a custom chat program. However, I didn't like how it handled send/receive, so I'm making it so it reads a file for a username.
L411[17:12:09] <Inari> ~oc fs
L412[17:12:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L413[17:12:15] <Xlaits> I'm using that.
L414[17:12:35] <Inari> Well it does say file:write
L415[17:12:36] <Inari> :D
L416[17:12:55] <ben_mkiv> but i think i've failed there at first, too
L417[17:12:57] <Xlaits> Exactly. With no indication that it's a placeholder.
L418[17:13:06] <Inari> Placeholder?
L419[17:13:45] <Inari> Well it's common for a file api to return a file object
L420[17:13:48] <Inari> .open says "Returns a file stream (see below) on success" too
L421[17:14:14] <Xlaits> So, should I use the full path or just the file name?
L422[17:15:28] <ben_mkiv> you do something like filehandler = fs.open("foobar.txt")
L423[17:15:33] <ben_mkiv> and then filehandler:write()
L424[17:15:59] <Inari> "./foobar.txt" would indicate to use the current folder, whatever that means :P
L425[17:16:03] <Inari> Or you can use full path
L426[17:16:30] <Xlaits> Cool, that means I can use the variable I already have set up.
L427[17:18:14] <ben_mkiv> actually i think you should better not do fs = require("filesystem")
L428[17:18:19] <ben_mkiv> and just use filesystem.open() etc
L429[17:18:23] <ben_mkiv> so its less confusing
L430[17:18:35] <Inari> Don't think it matters
L431[17:18:36] <ben_mkiv> and require("filesystem")
L432[17:18:39] <Inari> Most people use fs :P
L433[17:18:43] <Inari> it's shorter
L434[17:18:47] <Xlaits> I'm doing it that way so I don't have to write filesystem over and over again.
L435[17:18:52] <ben_mkiv> ok
L436[17:19:07] <Inari> It's also io and not inputoutput
L437[17:19:14] <ben_mkiv> xD
L438[17:20:13] <ben_mkiv> my favorite to type is still serialization.unserialize()
L439[17:20:57] <Inari> wserialization.Serializer.unserializeSerializedString()
L440[17:23:44] <Xlaits> Alright, still getting issues around line 20. attempted to tall method 'write' again....
L441[17:24:15] <ben_mkiv> pastebin the current code please
L442[17:24:21] <Xlaits> One sec.
L443[17:25:00] <Xlaits> https://pastebin.com/6BWsUurs
L444[17:25:40] <ben_mkiv> fs.open(userfile, rw) => fs.open(userfile, "rw")
L445[17:25:41] <ben_mkiv> iirc
L446[17:26:10] <Xlaits> Gah, foiled again. Curse you, double quotes!
L447[17:27:06] <Xlaits> That... failed spectatularly...
L448[17:27:51] <Xlaits> Wait, if I open it with "w" can I still read from it?
L449[17:28:13] <ben_mkiv> no
L450[17:28:39] <ben_mkiv> also you get a stream, so if you write to it, it would try to read from the last byte if im not wrong
L451[17:28:53] <ben_mkiv> unless you seek
L452[17:29:01] <Xlaits> Because I just realized rw isn't a mode.
L453[17:33:18] <Xlaits> Augh, it STILL won't write! same error on line 20, attempted to call 'write.
L454[17:37:26] <ben_mkiv> because userfile is a string
L455[17:37:28] <ben_mkiv> not your filehandler
L456[17:37:48] <Xlaits> Testing that now.
L457[17:39:14] <Xlaits> That caused some... strange errors...
L458[17:43:44] <Xlaits> After changing everything over to a filehandler, now it can't call read.
L459[17:44:56] <ben_mkiv> hell yeah, i found my own bug in my code xD
L460[17:45:30] <ben_mkiv> pastebin...
L461[17:46:35] <ben_mkiv> (long) varA |= (1 << nIndex); != (long) varA |= ((long) 1 << nIndex); -.-
L462[17:46:36] <Xlaits> https://pastebin.com/TEfK1KV6
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L464[17:47:12] <ben_mkiv> userfile:read(16) => handler:read(...
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L466[17:48:17] <Izaya> >fs
L467[17:48:19] <Izaya> >not io
L468[17:58:43] <Xlaits> I think I've got it, I just need to do a FULL test run...
L469[18:09:01] <Xlaits> Line 73 and 79 are giving me issues, but I think changing "user" to a global should fix that.
L470[18:14:19] <ben_mkiv> https://oc.cil.li/uploads/monthly_2017_09/multihologram.thumb.jpg.4661c380231874005e388334f0b88bfd.jpg
L471[18:14:22] <ben_mkiv> mother of holograms
L472[18:14:24] <ben_mkiv> xD
L473[18:14:51] <ben_mkiv> so that gui made an api to combine several projectos => https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1434-holographic-extended-api/
L474[18:14:58] <ben_mkiv> guy
L475[18:15:50] <Izaya> that's p. shiny
L476[18:15:57] <Inari> Looks like red wool skygrid
L477[18:16:54] <ben_mkiv> i thought of something similiar to get more than 3 colors
L478[18:16:59] <ben_mkiv> wonder if it supports that
L479[18:17:03] <Izaya> >mouse by default in vim
L480[18:17:05] <Izaya> ree
L481[18:19:00] <ben_mkiv> so with 4 projectors in 2x2 you should be able to get 12 colors at 32x32x32 voxels resolution
L482[18:21:02] <AmandaC> %choose souls of the damned or cereal
L483[18:21:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: souls of the damned
L484[18:21:15] * ben_mkiv offers his soul
L485[18:21:37] <Izaya> Hm.
L486[18:21:42] <Izaya> ocemu won't work on arch.
L487[18:21:54] <Izaya> Installing a Debian VM requires more data than my phone plan has.
L488[18:22:10] <AmandaC> No thanks, I've currently got a surplus, so I'll pass
L489[18:23:20] <AmandaC> Yay, Plex finally scanned the anime I added earlier
L490[18:24:36] <AmandaC> Only had to write a one-liner to rename the episodes on my phone
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L492[18:25:15] * Izaya considers -funroll-loops-ing ocvm
L493[18:29:49] <Xlaits> Alright, so I JUST noticed that there's a huge issue with the ending of the program, and in an attempt to fix it, I made ANOTHER error...
L494[18:30:10] <Xlaits> https://pastebin.com/Ft4ZMpDj
L495[18:30:21] <Xlaits> Line 76
L496[18:32:40] <ben_mkiv> you didnt close the brackets
L497[18:33:06] <Xlaits> If I close them, I get a DIFFERENT error...
L498[18:33:28] <ben_mkiv> yea, because you didnt really define a whole function
L499[18:33:43] <Xlaits> That's the function as defined earlier in the program.
L500[18:33:45] * Izaya pokes payonel
L501[18:34:05] <Izaya> payonel: should a reverse line feed move the cursor?
L502[18:34:05] <ben_mkiv> then parse the name
L503[18:34:34] <Xlaits> ?
L504[18:34:40] <ben_mkiv> ah nvm
L505[18:36:00] <ben_mkiv> line 31 is where you define it, but it doesnt have a reference for later usage in the code
L506[18:36:14] <ben_mkiv> so i would suggest to define the function outside of event.listen
L507[18:36:21] <ben_mkiv> so you can use the name for event.listen / ignore
L508[18:36:51] <Xlaits> Alright. It's been too long since I've done this.
L509[18:37:40] <ben_mkiv> https://pastebin.com/e8PvxpFv
L510[18:41:33] <Xlaits> So I would use event.listen("modem_message, ModemFunction())? Or without the inner ()?
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L512[18:41:44] <ben_mkiv> without
L513[18:45:05] <Xlaits> Okay, so far, so good. I've got one other issue, but I'm going to see if it still exists, first.
L514[18:49:16] <Xlaits> So, one of the computers seems to be having some issues with the program, but the other is not. It sends multiple, sometime broken messages.
L515[18:51:10] <Xlaits> Sometimes, after sending a message, the cursor even scrolls backwards!
L516[18:58:08] <Xlaits> I mean, I could give it a rudimentary fix by having it send a term.clear() with every message...
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L519[19:05:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> how does oc run lua stuff, each line one tick or can multiple commands be interpreted within one tick?
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L521[19:05:57] <ben_mkiv> asking because of RNG, as most examples feed it with os.time()
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L523[19:37:33] <Izaya> OC has a number of threads for running lua
L524[19:41:29] <ben_mkiv> so they only interact on events with minecraft?
L525[19:42:19] <Izaya> ..?
L526[19:42:46] <ben_mkiv> i wonder how the interpreter is affected by minecraft ticks
L527[19:42:56] <ben_mkiv> so not at all i guess?
L528[19:46:59] <ben_mkiv> welll not at all is wrong probably
L529[19:47:12] <ben_mkiv> as lowest possible sleep time is a tick?!
L530[19:51:49] * Izaya shrugs
L531[20:03:16] <Roachy> yooooo, I'm a newbie and just learned OC computers persist through chunk unloads and game restarts. Mind=blown.lua
L532[20:05:47] <ben_mkiv> cc still doesnt do that?
L533[20:06:13] <Roachy> not sure I haven't really played modded since 1.7
L534[20:06:31] <ben_mkiv> same for me and cc, but oc is way more fun anyways :>
L535[20:07:42] <Roachy> i wasn't super happy that my chosen pack didn't have cc cuz it was my goto early game mining method, and I had lots of scripts built up. Still not super hot on the major initial investment curve, but I can't argue that the features are worth it
L536[20:08:31] <Izaya> welp
L537[20:08:44] <Izaya> now there's something vaguely definable as an application for PsychOS
L538[20:09:52] <Izaya> not sure if I want to mess with it too much though
L539[20:10:08] <Izaya> needing to use nsh to do multi-user chat is kind of inconvenient
L540[20:10:11] <Roachy> err, can't argue with the fact that oc features are worth the cost*
L541[20:10:13] <Izaya> should probably have a real client
L542[20:12:36] <Izaya> :| ocvm doesn't have networkin
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L547[20:49:47] <gamax92> Izaya
L548[20:50:01] <gamax92> A) Not my fault
L549[20:50:21] <gamax92> B) http://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2017-June/040192.html
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L561[23:42:46] <Saphire> https://github.com/tjohnman/KNOH owo
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