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<Forecaster>
Kodos I think lizzy enabled that
<Forecaster>
Kodos I think lizzy enabled thatL2[00:06:49] <Kodos> Yes, I know
L3[00:06:55] <Kodos> But I don't have any
options in the dropdowns for security questions
L4[00:07:13] <Kodos> (I haven't setup my 2FA
on the OC site yet)
L5[00:15:46] <Kodos> Trying to remember how
to do the self moving sticky piston machine
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L9[01:46:22] <Kodos> Holy shit Totemic is
nice
L10[01:46:27] <Kodos> Gonna pair that with
Botania
L11[02:42:42] <Izaya> is totemic in
1.7.10?
L12[02:56:10] <Kodos> No, a friend made a
server, so I'm helping him poke it
L13[02:56:19] <Kodos> 1.12.1
L14[02:58:35] <asie> Totemic is in 1.7.10
tho
L15[02:58:41] <asie> an old version
L16[03:08:31] <Izaya> decent amount of
content?
L17[03:09:21] <asie> AFAIK there's a fair
amount
L18[03:09:26] <asie> I know we featured it
on BTM'16
L19[03:09:45] <Saphire> 1.7.10 is only real
version :P JK, for now
L20[03:09:53] <Saphire> *last?
L21[03:10:19] <Saphire> asie: umm... Do you
need a helper with BTM? One that is in worst timezone ever and is
lazy :c
L23[03:19:22] <Forecaster>
haha
<Forecaster>
hahaL24[03:19:29] <Forecaster>
this is from one of the files in Evil Genius xD
<Forecaster>
this is from one of the files in Evil Genius xDL25[03:32:04] ⇨
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L26[03:55:38] <Saphire> Forecaster: huh?
What's that?
L27[03:57:21] <Forecaster>
a file that sets up variables when the game starts
<Forecaster>
a file that sets up variables when the game startsL28[03:57:38] <Forecaster>
"probably someone will fix that eventually"
<Forecaster>
"probably someone will fix that eventually"L29[03:57:41] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL30[06:36:41] ⇨
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L32[06:44:35] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a
new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L33[06:44:35] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/sVCBYPFofoM - RailcraftLP [Episode
40] - Elevating Plans
L34[06:44:35] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on
this video:
opencomputers,robot,E.V.E,code,lua,programming,expanding,building,smelting,planning
L35[06:44:36] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP-
[Episode 40] - Elevating Plans | length: 28m 41s |
Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster |
Published On 11/9/2017
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L38[07:11:45] *
Saphire pokes @20kdc
L39[07:11:53] <Saphire> > 0x00 indicates
that this is an unreliable packet.
L40[07:11:56] <Saphire> 0x01 indicates that
this is a reliable packet, expecting acknowledgement.
L41[07:12:14] <Saphire> ...did you just
made an unholy frankenshtein of IP, TCP and UDP in one
package?
L42[07:12:34] <Izaya> "no"
L43[07:12:59] <Izaya> ... wait.
L44[07:13:18] <Izaya> It's datagrams like
UDP but it expects acknowledgement.
L45[07:19:31] <Inari> Saphire: It's called
reliableUDP
L46[07:20:50] <Inari> Interesting, theres
een a protocol called that :P
L47[07:20:56] <Inari> Even if it wasn't
waht I meant, I just meant the concept
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L49[07:34:09] <Inari> Temia: Birb!
*-*
L50[07:34:22] <Temia> 'v'
L51[07:56:12] <Mimiru> Sorry AmandaC by
that time it was already long gone.
L52[07:58:29] <AmandaC> :P
L53[08:05:36] <S3> ROOINND!
L54[08:06:32] <S3> You know
L55[08:07:11] <AmandaC> No, I dont know
Rooinnd
L56[08:07:21] <AmandaC> Is she nice?
L57[08:07:47] <S3> no no I was gonna
say
L58[08:07:54] <S3> I feel bad for people
who live in Tokyo
L59[08:08:07] <S3> There must be people who
live in Tokyo who have never ever been outside of the city
L60[08:08:08] <S3> ever
L61[08:08:19] <S3> just because it takes so
much just to get out
L62[08:37:33] <Izaya> Tokyo has a slightly
larger population than Australia, last I checked.
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L66[09:09:19] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbOOPkmEGw
L67[09:09:20] <MichiBot> Initial D -
Beat Of The Rising Sun | length: 4m 7s | Likes:
15,585 Dislikes: 417 Views: 4,336,727 | by nickynw
| Published On 9/11/2009
L68[09:24:09] <Inari> https://twitter.com/David_Yen/status/906592099100848128
haha
L69[09:24:09] <MichiBot> Sat Sep 09
13:56:14 CDT 2017 @David_Yen: Steps when refactoring:
L70[09:26:06] <Syrren> Inari: TOO SOON! I
only recently sent in a cleanup (not even a full refactor) of
15-year-old 'core' code critical to most of the containing system.
After months of work making bloody sure that it wouldn't break, it
still crashed and burned.
L71[09:26:35] <Inari> xD
L72[09:27:18] <Syrren> and the answer to
"who the fuck wrote this shit?" is my boss
L73[09:27:23] <Syrren> who is also one of
the three founders of the company
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L75[09:28:05] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
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L78[09:48:23] <Izaya> if you want something
done right, do it yourself. actually, no, it'll still suck.
L79[09:48:47] <Forecaster>
if you want it done right pay someone to do it right, wait no
<Forecaster>
if you want it done right pay someone to do it right, wait noL80[09:49:45] <Inari> If you want a program
done right, first create your own cpu architecture fitted to the
task
L81[09:49:56] <Izaya> just create an
ASIC
L82[09:50:06] <Vexatos> If you want to do
it right, move the electrons yourself
L83[09:50:53] <Vexatos> With pincers
L84[09:50:54] <Vexatos> Very
L85[09:50:55] <Vexatos> small
L86[09:50:57] <Vexatos> quantum
L87[09:50:58] <Vexatos> pincers
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L89[09:54:02] <Inari> %give MichiBot
quantum pincers
L90[09:54:03] *
MichiBot accepts quantum pincers and adds it to her
inventory
L91[09:54:06] <Forecaster>
the hardware store was out of those
<Forecaster>
the hardware store was out of thoseL92[09:58:28] ⇦
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L93[10:01:57] <Syrren> relevant https://xkcd.com/378/
L94[10:01:57] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Real Programmers Posted on: 2/1/2008
L95[10:06:35] <Inari> To be fair, if
someone did thatI'd be terribly impressed
L96[10:07:28] <Syrren> Inari: pincers, or
butterflies?
L97[10:07:39] <Inari> butterflies
L98[10:07:55] <Mettaton_Fab> there is a xkcd for
everything
<Mettaton_Fab> there is a xkcd for
everythingL99[10:09:18] <Forecaster>
^ except that
<Forecaster>
^ except thatL100[10:09:32] *
Syrren dreads the day xkcd reaches that level of meta
L101[10:14:17] <Inari> I've lng complained
about there not being an xkcd for there being and xkcd for
everything
L102[10:14:44] <Syrren> I get the
suspicion that when such an xkcd does arise, the comic will have
jumped the shark in the process
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L106[10:52:50] <MGR>
Probably
<MGR>
ProbablyL107[10:53:20] <Forecaster>
you mean it hasn't already?
<Forecaster>
you mean it hasn't already?L108[10:53:25] <MGR>
Meanwhile, I've accumulated enough bad ideas in such a short period
of time, I'm worried they'll form an event horizon and I'll
implode
<MGR>
Meanwhile, I've accumulated enough bad ideas in such a short period
of time, I'm worried they'll form an event horizon and I'll
implodeL109[10:55:11] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojgb6xoAXY8
<3
L110[10:55:12] <MichiBot> BackAttack!!
[Morroc Pyramid] - Ragnarok Online Original Soundtrack / Game
OST | length: 2m 9s | Likes: 11 Dislikes: 0
Views: 1,525 | by Sieghrain | Published On
20/9/2016
L111[10:55:21] <Forecaster>
you mean form a singularity
<Forecaster>
you mean form a singularityL112[10:57:53] <MGR>
@Forecaster Both are technically correct
<MGR>
@Forecaster Both are technically correctL113[10:58:12] <MGR> But
yes, my primary meaning refers to the singularity
<MGR> But
yes, my primary meaning refers to the singularityL114[10:58:29] <Forecaster>
saying that it'd form an event horizon is weird though, because
that's a phenomena that is the result of something else
<Forecaster>
saying that it'd form an event horizon is weird though, because
that's a phenomena that is the result of something elseL115[10:59:15] *
Skye tosses @MGR into a black hole
L116[10:59:52] <MGR>
@Forecaster You are right
<MGR>
@Forecaster You are rightL117[11:00:08] <MGR> Skye,
not yet, not done with my work
<MGR> Skye,
not yet, not done with my workL118[11:00:18] <MGR> Maybe
one day
<MGR> Maybe
one dayL119[11:01:56] ⇦
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L120[11:03:12] <Forecaster>
one day the sun will turn into a black hole and all our matter will
be consumed
<Forecaster>
one day the sun will turn into a black hole and all our matter will
be consumedL121[11:03:23] <MGR> No it
won't
<MGR> No it
won'tL122[11:03:29] <MGR> It'll
turn into a white dwarf
<MGR> It'll
turn into a white dwarfL123[11:03:35] <MGR> And
then a black dwarf
<MGR> And
then a black dwarfL124[11:03:49] <MGR> Unless
you plan to increase it's mass by around ten times
<MGR> Unless
you plan to increase it's mass by around ten timesL125[11:04:10] <Forecaster>
we'll probably have added more fuel to it by then
<Forecaster>
we'll probably have added more fuel to it by thenL126[11:04:18]
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L127[11:04:26] <MGR> From
where?
<MGR> From
where?L128[11:04:39] <Forecaster>
other stars? I dunno :P
<Forecaster>
other stars? I dunno :PL129[11:05:11] <MGR>
Actually, depending on how sentimental we are, we can keep the Sun
going until the heat death of the Universe
<MGR>
Actually, depending on how sentimental we are, we can keep the Sun
going until the heat death of the UniverseL130[11:05:14] <Forecaster>
would depend on the tech level we achieve I suppose
<Forecaster>
would depend on the tech level we achieve I supposeL131[11:05:19] <Forecaster>
which I cannot predict
<Forecaster>
which I cannot predictL132[11:05:25]
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L133[11:05:45] <MGR> You
can use really big magnets to draw the helium out of the core, and
replace it with hydrogen
<MGR> You
can use really big magnets to draw the helium out of the core, and
replace it with hydrogenL134[11:06:07] <MGR> Which
turns back the clock on the Sun's age
<MGR> Which
turns back the clock on the Sun's ageL135[11:07:53]
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L138[11:22:24] <Forecaster>
oh hey, new xkcd
<Forecaster>
oh hey, new xkcdL140[11:22:25] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Still in Use Posted on: 9/11/2017
L141[11:25:14] <ben_mkiv> xD
L142[11:25:52] <ben_mkiv> https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/team_chat.png
L143[11:26:34] *
ben_mkiv is that gateway guy
L144[11:26:37] <ben_mkiv> bitlbee for the
win :D
L145[11:39:34] <S3> bitlbee is neat but I
don't really use it
L146[11:41:35] <ben_mkiv> i've used it
some years for icq but actually i dont need it anymore really
L147[11:42:02] <ben_mkiv> helpful people
who know stuff are usually on irc
L148[11:42:11] <payonel> i'm usually on
irc
L149[11:42:16] <payonel> ^.^
L150[11:42:31] <Temia> I've considered
moving to Bitlbee since I only ever talk to one or two people on
IMs anymore, but
L151[11:42:32] <Temia> Lazy
L152[11:42:48] <ben_mkiv> i've convinced
my icq contacts to discord
L153[11:42:55] <S3> ....
L154[11:42:58] <S3> UH OH!
L155[11:43:02] <S3> :P
L156[11:43:09] <ben_mkiv> yea, they need
some emotes and such :P
L157[11:43:09] <Temia> It's funny, the
only people I ever talk to are on ICQ as well.
L158[11:43:13] <payonel> i wish all my
contacts used irc
L159[11:43:14] <Temia> Either way
meh.
L160[11:43:17] <payonel> would be so much
easier
L161[11:43:24] <Temia> Same, Payo
L162[11:43:35] <ben_mkiv> actually i think
the discord/irc is a pretty good match
L163[11:43:39] <ben_mkiv> discord is good
for mobile use
L164[11:43:54] <S3> I used ICQ like, back
on windows 95 or something
L165[11:44:06] <Temia> Discord is a
serious battery eater >_> I rather like Quasseldroid when
chatting from mobile
L166[11:44:24] <S3> and back then ICQ had
this feature where you could see what the other person was typing
as they were typing it
L167[11:44:29] <S3> like a realtime chat
window
L168[11:44:32] <S3> it was neat
L169[11:44:39] <ben_mkiv> thought discord
used push notifications
L170[11:44:42] <S3> and also a waste of
bandwidth :D
L171[11:44:46] <payonel> i dont chat on my
phone
L172[11:44:54] <payonel> if i'm not
sitting down with my laptop i'd rather not be interrupted
L173[11:45:26] <S3> payonel: so you
require physical presense
L174[11:45:29] <S3> to bother you
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L176[11:45:51] *
ben_mkiv doesnt accept bothering
L177[11:46:12] <S3> so
L178[11:46:26] <payonel> :) well, i think
the problem is that if openos/oc interrupts me then i get really
distracted
L179[11:46:28] <S3> I have a group of
friends, where we all do not really use electronic methods to
communicate
L180[11:46:36] <payonel> and i already
tend to ignore enough of the rest of my life as it is
L181[11:46:41] <S3> we just knocj on
eachothers doors to our houses to talk about stuff
L182[11:46:51] <S3> if we have some cool
new programming ideas
L183[11:47:03] <S3> I might just drive
over to one of their places and knock on their door
L184[11:47:04] <Saphire> Guys
L185[11:47:07] <S3> or vice versa
L186[11:47:09] <Saphire> IBM is
amazing
L187[11:47:16] <S3> Saphire: we know
this
L188[11:47:17] <ben_mkiv> but why
s3?
L189[11:47:48] <S3> ben_mkiv: because we
grew up during a time where the best way to communicate was to do
that or call a number without an answering machine
L190[11:48:05] <g> now that discord has
channel categories (in canary anyway), it'll soon be time to start
work on my abomination..
L191[11:48:18] <ben_mkiv> same, but i
still prefer async communication unless a meeting was aranged
xD
L192[11:48:31] <S3> ben_mkiv: this is a
serious problem. People are becoming glued to this electronic
thing
L193[11:48:50] <S3> if I don't have an
answering machine and you call my home phone and don't get an
answer, you get frustrated now
L194[11:48:52] <S3> like wtf
L195[11:49:16] <S3> when I was a kid you
just called later, found something else to do
L196[11:49:24] <S3> no big deal
L197[11:49:30] <Skye> I ignore answer
machine, no one who has them actually uses them
L198[11:49:31] <ben_mkiv> yea, people
these days want everything asap
L199[11:49:39] <Skye> so I just give up
and call later
L200[11:49:43] <S3> people are becoming
glued to this world of communication
L201[11:49:48] <S3> instant
gratification
L202[11:49:53] <ben_mkiv> well, my phone
is whitelisted so i dont get bothered by idiots :>
L203[11:50:04] <ben_mkiv> not a dog who
waits for his ring of another person
L204[11:51:10] <S3> ben_mkiv: it effects
people more than just human - human communication
L205[11:51:19] <S3> now it has approached
human - machine communication problems
L206[11:51:37] <S3> ben_mkiv: have you
seen what happens when people are depreived of their ability to
communicate with another machine let alone a human being?
L207[11:51:38] <Inari> Skye: I use them,
and it's always a pain when people don't use them :P
L208[11:51:57] <Skye> I check every answer
message I have
L209[11:52:23] <ben_mkiv> sorry S3 i don't
get it. english aint my native language
L210[11:53:09] <S3> ben_mkiv: great
example: Imagine you're going on a short road trip for a day. you
drive up some road and look down at your phone half an hour later
and realize that you have no available phone service and your GPS
signal keeps saying it is lost, maybe it's a cloudy day.
L211[11:53:16] <S3> most people at this
point would freak the hell out
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L213[11:53:26] <ben_mkiv> ok, gotcha
L214[11:54:02] <S3> The other day, I had a
coworker make fun of me because in between my shift and the
passenger seat is a large map of the entire state
L215[11:54:09] <S3> an atlas book
L216[11:54:16] <S3> you know what he
said?
L217[11:54:25] <ben_mkiv> "who uses
this those days?"
L218[11:54:27] <S3> Why do you need a map?
you can just GPS everything on your phone
L219[11:55:01] <ben_mkiv> if im lost i'm
just gonna ask someone
L220[11:55:03] <Forecaster>
I gps everything
<Forecaster>
I gps everythingL221[11:55:06] <ben_mkiv> its so
easy
L222[11:55:07] <ben_mkiv> :D
L223[11:55:14] <S3> but this guy is not
from here, and he doesn't realize that most of this entire state a)
has no cell phone service, and b) has blanketed clouds over the
horrizon almost every day, and flaky gps service.
L224[11:55:35] <payonel> i'm printing maps
of the places i'm visiting in germany
L225[11:55:42] <S3> ben_mkiv: here if you
want to ask somebody, that's perfectly fine,but you may have to
walk a minimum of 5 miles
L226[11:55:43] <S3> or more
L227[11:55:59] <MGR> I use
my GPS mostly to dodge traffic
<MGR> I use
my GPS mostly to dodge trafficL228[11:56:09] <Inari> @MGR Sounds
hard
L229[11:56:11] <MGR> If I
travel the same route twice, I can memorize it, but it isn't always
the fastest route
<MGR> If I
travel the same route twice, I can memorize it, but it isn't always
the fastest routeL230[11:56:13] <Inari> Most people use
eyes for that
L231[11:56:25] <MGR> Inari,
it's more exciting to do it through your GPS though ?
<MGR> Inari,
it's more exciting to do it through your GPS though ?L232[11:56:40] <MGR>
Driving: Hard Mode
<MGR>
Driving: Hard ModeL233[11:56:43] <ben_mkiv> friend of my
sister got lost in the forest because his mobile battery got
empty
L234[11:56:48] <ben_mkiv> survival
god^^
L235[11:56:58] <S3> ben_mkiv: yeah
wtf
L236[11:57:03] <CompanionCube> lol, that's
just stupidity
L237[11:57:08] <S3> ben_mkiv: you know I
got lost on a mountain overnight once
L238[11:57:21] <S3> because our group
leader decided to go a different direction as a shortcut
L239[11:57:28] <S3> and we ended up out of
radio service contact
L240[11:57:30] <S3> ...
L241[11:57:47] <ben_mkiv> hope he knew how
to get you out of this xD
L242[11:57:55] <S3> we got out
L243[11:58:02] <S3> we had nothing but our
flashlights and a compass
L244[11:58:22] <S3> it was sunrise for a
while by the time we got back
L245[11:58:26] <S3> maybe 6:30 or so
AM
L246[11:58:44] <S3> it wasn't too bad, I
mean we left in the evening before
L247[11:58:57] <S3> and there were no
trails of course we were just bush whacking
L248[11:59:24] <ben_mkiv> sounds like a
real adventure :D
L249[11:59:31] <S3> it was ...
interesting.
L250[11:59:40] <S3> our group chose the
shortest hike.
L251[11:59:47] <S3> .........
L252[12:00:03] <S3> other groups were
waist deep in swamps on the lower part of the mountain XD
L253[12:00:23] <S3> and we were walking in
single file lines down the edges of cliffs
L254[12:00:34] <S3> when our flashlights
couldn't see the bottom
L255[12:00:55] <S3> I lost my glow in the
dark flashlight that night
L256[12:01:06] <Inari> Scary :P
L257[12:01:13] <ben_mkiv> ^^
L258[12:01:21] <S3> it wasn't so bad
L259[12:01:25] <S3> they weren't super
steep
L260[12:01:35] <S3> but it was definately
disconcerning
L261[12:02:25] <Inari> disconcerning isn't
a word ;)
L262[12:02:32] <S3> it is here
L263[12:03:01] <Inari> But it doesn't make
sense :<
L264[12:03:08] <S3> this is Maine
L265[12:03:08] <ben_mkiv>
disconcerting?
L266[12:03:11] <S3> join the club.
L267[12:03:13] <ben_mkiv> is what my dict
suggests
L268[12:03:17] <Inari> Yeah :P
L269[12:03:17] <S3> We don't need to make
sense
L270[12:03:38] <S3> we say other words
that don't exist too
L271[12:04:36] <S3> like ayuh and
chadoin...
L272[12:05:10] <S3> if it makes you feel
better
L273[12:05:20] <S3> we end most all of our
sentences with the word "but"
L274[12:05:22] <S3> period.
L275[12:05:38] <Inari> Butt
L276[12:06:17] <S3> also
L277[12:06:25] <S3> some words we say
breathing in instead of out
L278[12:06:35] <S3> that's something most
people just look silly trying to do
L279[12:07:01] <S3> ya is a famous word
for that
L280[12:07:33] <S3> which generally means
yes in that context
L281[12:07:58] <S3> also: https://i.imgur.com/Myrpn13.jpg
L282[12:08:01] <S3> spongebob
evaxuated
L283[12:08:05] <S3> evacuated*
L284[12:08:34] <Inari> S3: in the context
of saying it while breathing in?
L285[12:09:34] <S3> no no in the context
of agreeing with something for example, it is generally Ya , but
breathed in.
L286[12:12:00] <Inari> I mean, it would
generally mean yes. Unless you're speaking japanese maybe
L287[12:21:33] <Zerray> jo good day
guys!
L288[12:22:44] <Zerray> I build a robot
with open OS 1.6.7 now it says on line local robot =
require("robot") modul robot not found... any sugesstion
what went wrong?
L289[12:23:22] <Zerray> ls
L290[12:24:37] <Zerray> woot the robot lib
is missing on the drive? O_O
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L292[12:28:14] <ben_mkiv> oO
L293[12:28:21] <ben_mkiv>
require("component").robot
L294[12:28:25] <ben_mkiv> is probably what
you want
L295[12:28:38] <Zerray> robot isnt a
component Oo
L296[12:28:44] <Zerray> it works on my
"old robot aswell same script"
L297[12:29:11] <ben_mkiv> require robot is
wrong
L298[12:29:13] <Zerray> I insert a open os
disk in the computer and installed it, the robot lib is
missing
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L300[12:29:33] <Zerray> um then it got
changed with a new version?
L301[12:29:44] <Zerray> cause my old robot
"before" patch works with that script :D
L302[12:30:19] <ben_mkiv> well... robot is
a component^^
L303[12:30:36] <ben_mkiv> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:robot
L304[12:30:39] <Zerray> stuff change I
gues...
L305[12:30:39] <Forecaster>
there is a component *and* a library
<Forecaster>
there is a component *and* a libraryL306[12:30:40] <Zerray> xD
L307[12:30:44] <Zerray> oh
L308[12:30:49] <Inari> I think the library
is injected when you're on a robot
L309[12:30:52] <Inari> Or hm
L310[12:30:54] <Zerray> but the library is
not there anymore
L311[12:30:55] <Inari> Was that the
component?
L312[12:30:57] <Inari> I'm unsure :P
L313[12:30:58] <Forecaster>
the library uses the component
<Forecaster>
the library uses the componentL314[12:31:26] <Forecaster>
Zerray you'll want to poke payonel about that
<Forecaster>
Zerray you'll want to poke payonel about thatL315[12:32:16] <Zerray> yeah changed the
code to component and it works , but still strange cause the lib
was there before pretty sure^^
L316[12:32:56] <Forecaster>
it should be
<Forecaster>
it should beL317[12:33:02] <S3> ben_mkiv: ROBOT
COMPONENT DUP @ SWAP !
L318[12:33:23] <CompanionCube> nice
caps
L319[12:33:33] <S3> :D
L320[12:33:44] <CompanionCube> although
lowercase forth looks better
L321[12:33:48] <Zerray> wow now everything
is broken xD
L322[12:33:50] <payonel> huh?
L323[12:34:20] <Zerray> robot.turnRight()
a nil value gg :D
L324[12:34:23] <ben_mkiv> yea if there
really was a lib, changing to component wont work probably
L325[12:34:44] <Forecaster>
the library methods are not the same as the components no
<Forecaster>
the library methods are not the same as the components noL326[12:34:46] <Forecaster>
that wont work
<Forecaster>
that wont workL327[12:34:47] <payonel> robots inject a
psuedo filesystem that has the robot library
L328[12:34:50] <payonel> is that
broken?
L329[12:34:55] <payonel> version?
L330[12:35:04] <CompanionCube> S3: inb4
after writing a forth you implement an IEEE-1275 EEPROM
L331[12:35:21] <Skye> CompanionCube,
OpenBIOS?
L332[12:35:26] <Zerray> still 115
L333[12:35:32] <S3> : DO-SOMETHING 2 4
MOVE SWAP =0 IF EEPROM-WRITE-IEEE-1275 THEN ;
L334[12:35:38] <CompanionCube> Skye: that
name's taken
L335[12:35:44] <S3> 0= *
L336[12:35:48] <payonel> why are so many
ppl using 115 :(
L337[12:35:55] <payonel> whatever, that's
another thing
L338[12:36:01] <Zerray> cause it was the
latest a few days ago xD
L339[12:36:37] <S3> conditionals in forth
are fun:
L340[12:36:57] <S3> 1 3 < IF ."
Yay 1 is less than three" THEN
L341[12:37:05] <Zerray> Iam gona update
now, where can i get the robot.lib? :D
L342[12:37:24] <ben_mkiv> oh zerray you
figured out why the robot didnt assemble?
L343[12:37:31] <Zerray> no
L344[12:37:37] <Zerray> it works again
without doing anything
L345[12:37:38] <S3> CompanionCube: why a
1275?
L346[12:37:56] <Zerray> well it works
beside that my robot file is missing
L347[12:37:59] <CompanionCube> S3: why
not? :p
L348[12:38:32] <payonel> Zerray: before
you update, can you run `mount` and see if there is a ro fs?
L349[12:38:35] <payonel> on your
robot
L350[12:38:53] <Zerray> yes
L351[12:38:59] <Zerray> wait a sec
L352[12:39:21] <Zerray> yep there is a ro
"robot"
L353[12:39:39] <Zerray> lua
L354[12:39:44] <Zerray> ups wroong
window
L355[12:39:46] <payonel> ok cool, is there
a lib folder in there? and in that, robot.lua?
L356[12:40:03] <Zerray> there is a lib
folder but no robot.lua :D
L357[12:40:04] <S3> CompanionCube: what
would its' purpose serve?
L358[12:40:06] <Skye> CompanionCube, Open
Firmware.
L359[12:40:21] <payonel> ok that's
weird
L360[12:40:25] <CompanionCube> Skye:
heh
L361[12:40:46] <payonel> Zerray: 1.10.2
115?
L362[12:41:08] <Zerray> yep http://imgur.com/a/ahW1T
L363[12:41:29] <payonel> Zerray: no,
that's /lib
L364[12:41:37] <payonel> i want
/mnt/[robot ro fs]/lib
L365[12:41:49] <ben_mkiv> what is the lib
even made for? Oo
L366[12:41:58] <payonel> ben_mkiv: just
some helper methods
L367[12:42:07] <payonel> it wraps the
robot api
L368[12:42:10] <Zerray> without my robot
wont work xD
L369[12:42:13] <payonel> it isn't
necessary, it's just helper stuff
L370[12:42:17] <Zerray> wait how do i do
that payonel?
L371[12:42:32] <ben_mkiv> ok, but it isnt
bad practice to just use the component and not touch the lib?
L372[12:42:37] <payonel> Zerray: run
`mount`, on a robot there should be a 2nd filesystem made by the
robot
L373[12:42:54] <payonel> ben_mkiv: i think
that's fine
L374[12:43:01] <Zerray> got it
L375[12:43:04] <Zerray> there is the
robot.lua
L376[12:43:05] <Zerray> wtf?
L377[12:43:10] <payonel> ok good
L378[12:43:53] <payonel> in `lua`, can you
run =filesystem.isAutorunEnabled()
L379[12:44:37] <Zerray> = true
L380[12:44:43] <payonel> ok
L381[12:44:56] <payonel> is there a
/tmp/event.log?
L382[12:45:30] <payonel> and to be sure,
in lua shell, =require("robot") fails?
L383[12:45:38] <Zerray> yep it fails
L384[12:46:05] <Skye> S3, OpenFirmware is
a cool FORTH based BIOS system
L385[12:46:39] <Zerray> https://pastebin.com/EEeS9HR7
L386[12:47:31] <payonel> ...
L387[12:47:34] <payonel> i hate that
error
L388[12:47:40] <Zerray> xD
L389[12:47:48] <S3> Skye: I think I could
roll a forth interpreter on eeprom
L390[12:47:48] <payonel> ok reboot your
robot, tell me if that error is appended to the event.log
L391[12:47:51] <S3> a peroper one
L392[12:47:55] <S3> in < 4K
L393[12:48:16] <Skye> S3, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware
L394[12:48:33] <S3> yeah I know of
it
L395[12:48:45] <S3> it's not worth using
somebody elses ideas for something like OC
L396[12:50:16] <Zerray> now there is no
tmp eventlog
L397[12:50:17] <Skye> S3, but imagine if
it was used with different archetectures? :D :P
L398[12:50:24] <payonel> hawut?
L399[12:50:28] <payonel> oh right
L400[12:50:32] <payonel> tmp gets
wiped
L401[12:50:42] <payonel> in `lua`, run
=require("robot")
L402[12:50:46] <payonel> does it
/tmp/event.log ?
L403[12:51:13] <Zerray> it says error but
no event.log xD
L404[12:51:19] <payonel> ok
L405[12:51:42] <Zerray> teamviewer? would
be way faster i gues
L406[12:51:44] <payonel> Zerray: i
appreciate your time on this
L407[12:52:16] <payonel> next step is
either to have you update to 117 and retest and/or i'll try to
repro
L408[12:52:27] <ben_mkiv> i did just start
same version
L409[12:52:29] <ben_mkiv> to give it a
try
L410[12:52:42] <payonel> i did make a tiny
change to the robot pseudo dir, but all it should have done it
remove it from the `install` list
L411[12:53:07] <Zerray> I update and
report back one moment ^^
L412[12:53:11] <payonel> ok cool
L413[12:53:18] <ben_mkiv> yea same here on
115 dev
L414[12:53:24] <payonel> thanks
ben_mkiv
L415[12:53:28] <Zerray> same error?
L416[12:53:35] <ben_mkiv> file not
found
L417[12:53:38] <Zerray> but why does my
old robot work? xD
L418[12:53:39] <ben_mkiv> and no robot.lua
in /lib
L419[12:53:46] <Zerray> cause it was
installed correctly?
L420[12:54:00] <payonel> wait
L421[12:54:03] <payonel> existing robots
are okay?
L422[12:54:10] <Zerray> yes
L423[12:54:11] <Zerray> xDDD
L424[12:54:14] <payonel> ha,
interesting
L425[12:56:14] <payonel> that would
explain some of my testing, my worlds have existing robots, i dont
generally place new ones when testing small changes
L426[12:59:50] <Zerray> hm how do i fix
the robot ? have to disamble and rebuild again? ^^
L427[13:01:04] <payonel> i thought you
said existing robots are okay. sounds like recreating it is a bad
idea
L428[13:01:14] <payonel> anyways, let me
know what 117 does
L429[13:01:14] <Zerray> I mean the broken
one
L430[13:01:47] <Zerray> the funny thing
is, the broken robot is called "replicator" xD
L431[13:08:44] <payonel> Inari: https://slack-files.com/T025QNLGW-F727HFQ14-790d006bfa
L432[13:10:24] <Zerray> oh nice the
dissapear bug again
L433[13:10:34] <payonel> ?
L434[13:10:36] <Zerray> robot build in
progress 0% stuck
L435[13:10:52] <payonel> ouch
L436[13:10:55] <payonel> i didnt know
about that one
L437[13:11:18] <Zerray> had that yesterday
3 times , on the old version then today it worked 1 time with the
broken robot
L438[13:12:03] <Zerray> oh wait ... now it
started ? wtf
L439[13:12:16] <Zerray> it jumped from 0
to 1 minute .. and now its building
L440[13:13:24] <Zerray> maybe the energy
net is the error on that? probly the mekanism cable bug out
sometimes
L441[13:13:45] <Inari> payonel: What if
one is a catgirl?
L442[13:14:53] <payonel> i approve
L443[13:18:29] <Zerray> payonel: on 117
the robot.api is back!
L444[13:18:50] <payonel> hmm
L445[13:18:52] <payonel> well
L446[13:18:53] <payonel> ok
L447[13:19:12] <Zerray> can i fix the
broken robot manual?
L448[13:19:29] <payonel> manual or
manually?
L449[13:19:46] <Zerray> manually
L450[13:19:58] <payonel> no idea
L451[13:20:06] <payonel> disassemble and
reassemble might work :)
L452[13:20:07] <payonel> try it
L453[13:20:08] <payonel> :)
L454[13:20:10] <Zerray> should i copy the
robot file from the mnt to the /lib?
L455[13:20:17] <payonel> that's okay
too
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L457[13:20:49] <payonel> there is also a
bin file, `cp /mnt/[robot ro]/bin/go.lua /bin/`
L458[13:23:43] <Zerray> yeha copy both
files fixed the issue
L459[13:26:14] <Zerray> well I throw him
away there is something else broken
L460[13:26:24] <Zerray> he works like on
thc super slow motion
L461[13:30:03] ***
Vic is now known as V
L462[13:31:53] <gamax92> "(but then,
people also seem to have strong feelings about options abundance
and 'sensible' default options, so whatever you do will probably
upset someone at some point)."
L463[13:32:16] <ben_mkiv> ^^
L464[13:34:14] <Inari> Inari the
Slimebringer
L465[13:34:33] <Zerray> that is so strange
the robot build in 117 runs twice as fast as the robot from 114
request update function for robots OS xD
L466[13:34:48] <Skye> Inari, lewd
L467[13:34:56] <Forecaster>
Inari: if one is a catgirl I think that falls into #4
<Forecaster>
Inari: if one is a catgirl I think that falls into #4L468[13:36:21] <Inari> @Forecaster thats
what I was wondering about :D
L469[13:36:31] <Inari> %pet Skye
L470[13:36:32] *
MichiBot pets Skye with dead HDD. Skye recovers 7
health!
L471[13:36:57] <Inari> %give MichiBot the
slimeslinger
L472[13:36:57] *
MichiBot accepts the slimeslinger and adds it to her
inventory
L473[13:38:46] <Temia> https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/907316494450647040
@ Inari
L474[13:38:46] <MichiBot> Mon Sep 11
13:54:44 CDT 2017 @xkeepah: RT @catgirls_bot: https://t.co/oLmm8S0xAg https://t.co/3jlSE6jck0
L475[13:39:22] <Temia> Huh, that was
weird. Anyway
L476[13:39:28] <Inari> Temia: Nyan
:3
L477[13:39:43] <Inari> Maid outfits are
great~
L478[13:39:58] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJdwBdaVoAEaRRH.jpg:large
I like her eyes
L479[13:40:10] <Skye> Inari, payonel:
what're you talking about
L480[13:40:25] <Inari> Skye: https://slack-files.com/T025QNLGW-F727HFQ14-790d006bfa
L481[13:42:06] *
Skye pours a bucket made of non neutonian fluid over
Inari
L482[13:42:17] <Inari> Sounds like
fun
L483[13:43:14] *
Inari pours a bucket made of non-teutonian fluid over
Skye
L484[13:43:33] <Skye> uah?
L485[13:44:03] <Inari> Just poking at your
spelling of newtonian ;)
L486[13:44:21] <Skye> mewtonian
L487[13:44:22] <ben_mkiv> holy crap,
they're installing new electric meters in some houses in germany,
which require a PIN to read your energy consumption rate
L488[13:44:34] <ben_mkiv> to enter the PIN
you have to use a flashlight on a light sensor
L489[13:44:37] <ben_mkiv> welcome to
2017
L490[13:44:47] <Inari> ?
L491[13:45:20] <payonel> ben_mkiv: and
code in the PIN by flashing the light?
L492[13:45:33] <Inari> ben_mkiv:
link?
L493[13:45:44] <ben_mkiv> only got links
in german language
L494[13:45:51] <Inari> I'm German
L495[13:45:51] <Inari> :p
L496[13:45:53] <AmandaC> That's no problem
for Inari. :P
L497[13:45:54] <ben_mkiv> https://scilogs.spektrum.de/datentyp/digitalisierung-mit-der-taschenlampe/
L498[13:46:16] <ben_mkiv> well to enter a
9 you have to flash 9 times on the lightsensor
L499[13:46:45] <ben_mkiv> when there wasnt
a lightflash in 3seconds it will jump to the next digit of the pin
xD
L500[13:46:49] <Forecaster>
it's so random people can't read the meters or something?
<Forecaster>
it's so random people can't read the meters or something?L501[13:46:58] <ben_mkiv> damn thats gonna
fuck people up
L502[13:47:02] <AmandaC> There (used to?)
be apps for Android to flash patterns using the camera's LED, so
that's not too bad.
L503[13:47:16] <Inari> Thats silly
L504[13:47:24] <ben_mkiv> ok AmandaC thats
actually a solution
L505[13:47:40] <Inari> Still silly
:f
L506[13:47:56] <Inari> Use two buttons,
you penny-pinchers
L507[13:48:10] <Zerray> to expensive
L508[13:48:20] *
Inari points to 'penny-pinchers'
L509[13:48:37] <Forecaster>
I'm surpised tech to parse light flashes cost less than
buttons
<Forecaster>
I'm surpised tech to parse light flashes cost less than
buttonsL510[13:48:46] <AmandaC> Now just install
our app and get easy access! ~app requires: Contacts, Filesystem,
Send/Receive SMS, Read your facebook soul, tweet in foreign
languages, all your system activity~
L511[13:49:10] <Inari> AmandaC: As long as
one of those points is "turns you into a foxgirl" I'm
okay
L512[13:49:11] <payonel> what is bad about
reading ppl's meters?
L513[13:49:28] <Inari> payonel: You know
their deviation from normal usage
L514[13:49:36] <Inari> And thus can work
out how much they charge batteries for sex toys
L515[13:49:42] <ben_mkiv> but having a
phone app also makes the pin unnecessary
L516[13:49:43] <Forecaster>
I didn't say it was bad
<Forecaster>
I didn't say it was badL517[13:49:46] <ben_mkiv> as you can easy
bruteforce
L518[13:49:59] <payonel> Inari: haha,
nice
L519[13:50:01] <ben_mkiv> as you have
infinite tries
L520[13:50:05] <Inari> ben_mkiv: I mean,
it's going to take a while to brute force
L521[13:50:20] <AmandaC> And you're likely
to notice someone flashing the side of your house
L522[13:50:20] <Skye> uh
L523[13:50:24] <Forecaster>
you'd have to stand there holding the phone for quite a while
:P
<Forecaster>
you'd have to stand there holding the phone for quite a while
:PL524[13:50:28] <Skye> why not have your
meter in your home
L525[13:50:28] <Inari> AmandaC: lewd
L526[13:50:39] <Skye> like we do in the
UK
L527[13:50:39] <ben_mkiv> or the phone cam
has to face the display to know when it got logged in
L528[13:50:48] <payonel> Inari:
hahaa
L529[13:51:03] <ben_mkiv> skye they are in
the owners home
L530[13:51:17] <Skye> ?????
L531[13:51:40] <ben_mkiv> or well, in big
houses with many flats they usually are in the basement
somewhere
L532[13:51:46] <ben_mkiv> locked, where
you cant access them anyways
L533[13:51:55] <Forecaster>
oh, that's odd then
<Forecaster>
oh, that's odd thenL534[13:51:59] <Forecaster>
ours is outside
<Forecaster>
ours is outsideL535[13:52:06] <AmandaC> outside here,
too
L536[13:52:12] <Inari> outside here
too
L537[13:52:24] <AmandaC> And they fucked
up installing it, and it was flooding our basement when it rained.
:D
L538[13:52:45] <Forecaster>
ours is a bit tricky to find though if you don't know where it
is
<Forecaster>
ours is a bit tricky to find though if you don't know where it
isL539[13:52:48] <Skye> in the UK they tend
to be indoors
L540[13:52:56] <Inari> AmandaC: the
electric meter flooded your basement?
L541[13:53:08] <Forecaster>
with electricity juice
<Forecaster>
with electricity juiceL542[13:53:21] <Inari> I prefer different
juice
L543[13:53:27] <AmandaC> Inari: yep, it
wasn't sealed properly, so when it rained water went into it, down
the tube to the breaker box, and onto the floor.
L544[13:53:31] <Forecaster>
I bet you do
<Forecaster>
I bet you doL545[13:53:38] <Inari> ;3
L546[13:53:53] <Inari> AmandaC: fun
L547[13:54:39] <ben_mkiv> sounds exciting
:D
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L549[14:15:55] <payonel> Inari: what kind
of juice would that be? :|
L550[14:19:10] <Inari> payonel: love
juice
L551[14:19:58] <payonel> ^.^ Inari
L552[14:21:03] <Forecaster>
lewdfuel
<Forecaster>
lewdfuelL553[14:22:45] <payonel> ben_mkiv and
Zerray -- is this server mod pack you're working on open to
visitors?
L554[14:23:07] <ben_mkiv> huh? we dont
work together at a modpack
L555[14:23:43] <ben_mkiv> i'm playing my
custom pack alone xD
L556[14:24:02] <ben_mkiv> all the popular
packs miss stuff like computronics, etc. so i've put together my
own stuff
L557[14:30:44] <MGR> My
pack has computronics
<MGR> My
pack has computronicsL558[14:31:55] <ben_mkiv> how about
openfm, opensecurity and openglasses? :P
L559[14:32:02] <MGR> All
but openfm
<MGR> All
but openfmL560[14:32:11] <ben_mkiv> sweet
L561[14:32:12] <MGR> I have
openradio which is lasers, not radio, but it sounds similar!
<MGR> I have
openradio which is lasers, not radio, but it sounds similar!L562[14:32:29] <ben_mkiv> openfm allows
shoutcast (m3u/pls) streams ingame
L563[14:32:35] <ben_mkiv> and you can
control it with oc
L564[14:32:49] <ben_mkiv> while the
streams are handled clientside, so pretty nice to add some music
:)
L565[14:32:55] <MGR>
Yeah
<MGR>
YeahL566[14:33:08] <Vexatos> but
L567[14:33:08] <ben_mkiv> and for
openglasses, i've forked it and using my own version
L568[14:33:13] <Vexatos> do you have mary
installed? :⁾
L569[14:33:18] <MGR> Why'd
you fork it?
<MGR> Why'd
you fork it?L570[14:33:23] <ben_mkiv> as i missed tons
of features in the original release
L571[14:33:27] <MGR>
Vexatos, are you saying what I'm thinking?
<MGR>
Vexatos, are you saying what I'm thinking?L572[14:33:35] <MGR> AI
KAREOKE?!
<MGR> AI
KAREOKE?!L573[14:33:37] <ben_mkiv> waiting for some
reply of marcin, maybe he merges my changes at some point
L574[14:33:51] <MGR>
Karaoke*
<MGR>
Karaoke*L575[14:34:08] <MGR> Well,
if you're looking for a server, hit me up
<MGR> Well,
if you're looking for a server, hit me upL576[14:34:48] <MajGenRelativity> I'm on
IRC or Discord
L577[14:35:04] <ben_mkiv> well if there
are more oc players around i would probably play on it from time to
time
L578[14:35:09] <ben_mkiv> allways more fun
to make stuff in teams
L579[14:35:18] <ben_mkiv> where can i grab
the pack?
L580[14:35:19] <MajGenRelativity> There
are indeed
L581[14:35:31] <MajGenRelativity> Do you
use Discord?
L582[14:35:41] <Vexatos> But do you have
mary installed? :⁾
L583[14:35:48] <ben_mkiv> yes, but not in
the oc channel actually
L584[14:36:00] <ben_mkiv> oh yea mary for
tts is sweet
L585[14:36:07] <MGR> Mary
is nice indeed
<MGR> Mary
is nice indeedL586[14:36:11] <MGR> It
will be the voice for Lena
<MGR> It
will be the voice for LenaL587[14:36:30] <Ben> now on
discord, too ?
<Ben> now on
discord, too ?L588[14:36:34] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL589[14:37:46]
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L590[14:38:33] <Vexatos>
What is a discord
<Vexatos>
What is a discordL591[14:38:50] <MGR>
This
<MGR>
ThisL592[14:39:01] <Forecaster>
it's a cartoon character
<Forecaster>
it's a cartoon characterL593[14:40:46] <Discord>
It's me!
<Discord>
It's me!L594[14:41:12] <Forecaster>
vexatos is cartoon character confirmed
<Forecaster>
vexatos is cartoon character confirmedL595[14:41:37] <MGR>
Noooooooooooo
<MGR>
NooooooooooooL596[14:41:44] <MGR>
Vexatos has become Discord!
<MGR>
Vexatos has become Discord!L597[14:41:50] <MGR> He can
see everything now!!!
<MGR> He can
see everything now!!!L598[14:42:54] <Vexatos
[ˈvɛk͡satɔs]> nooo
<Vexatos
[ˈvɛk͡satɔs]> noooL599[14:46:09] <MGR>
Yeeeeeeeeeees
<MGR>
YeeeeeeeeeeesL600[14:49:24] <gamax92> Uhh
L601[14:49:27] <gamax92> Vexatos can you
not
L602[14:52:04] <MGR> can
you not not now?
<MGR> can
you not not now?L603[14:57:53] <Forecaster>
noot noot?
<Forecaster>
noot noot?L604[15:06:16] <ben_mkiv> mgr, what are
player peak times?
L605[15:06:27] <ben_mkiv> walked around
alone for a bit for now :D
L606[15:08:02] <ben_mkiv> actually my
local 1.10.2 project is some virtual shop made with
openglasses
L607[15:08:11] <ben_mkiv> with economylite
as backend serverside for $$$
L608[15:09:44] <ben_mkiv> that's also the
reason i've forked openglasses
L609[15:10:00] <ben_mkiv> needed some
function to send different stuff to different users
L610[15:10:05] <ben_mkiv> and item display
in world/overlay
L611[15:12:13] <asie> marcin212: ^
L612[15:13:32] <ben_mkiv> its my first
time working on a mod, and theres stuff i want to change before
anything would be merged, if so
L613[15:13:41] <ben_mkiv> but the mod was
a good start as it wasnt to complex :)
L614[15:14:10] <ben_mkiv> https://camo.githubusercontent.com/72ef6a30f51bdb02ec710deb2f33a11af2ed96f7/687474703a2f2f7061737465616c6c2e6f72672f7069632f73686f772e7068703f69643d313138343633
L615[15:14:47] <ben_mkiv> also glasses got
light sensor and stuff for now :> so you can set conditions for
opengl transformations
L616[15:15:01] <ben_mkiv> so it changes
alpha if you activate the overlay or completly hides widgets
L617[15:19:04] <Inari> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/20/2f/03/202f032b2476f07efc2da49d13063568--gothic-lolita-lolita-fashion.jpg
cute
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L620[15:40:29] <Forecaster>
That's adorable
<Forecaster>
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L631[17:14:12] <tits_> LOOK AT ALL THE
NIGGERS LOOTING IN FLORIDA ROFL!!
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L633[17:15:28] <Izaya> https://postmarketos.org
L634[17:15:33] <Izaya> vifino: ^
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L637[17:33:00] <Kodos> Bad bot
L638[17:33:11] <Kodos> Should've
kickbanned
L639[17:33:50] <Kodos> Also, practical
uses for OC (No addons), go
L640[17:39:34] <Temia> Assembly line,
realtime clock, inventory management
L641[17:39:50] <gamax92> Tape Dri-
shit
L642[17:40:38] <gamax92> giant signs to
display text on
L643[17:40:46] <Temia> Scheduler, routing
system, systems monitoring
L644[17:40:54] <gamax92> redstone password
door lock
L645[17:41:11] <gamax92> mining
robots
L646[17:41:17] <Izaya> "door
lock"
L647[17:41:18] <Izaya> :3
L648[17:42:04] <gamax92> automated world
editing
L649[17:42:27] <Temia> Automated
construction
L650[17:43:02] <Kodos> Alright, that
should be enough to get me started
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L652[17:43:19] <gamax92> I just realized I
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L655[17:53:36] <ben_mkiv> automated
building reminds me of this => https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/620-building-oc-data-center-screenshots/
L656[17:53:41] <ben_mkiv> pretty cool
build :>
L657[17:57:59] <Kodos> Indeed
L658[17:58:03] <Kodos> Welcome,
raoulvdberge =)
L659[17:58:36] <Izaya> unneccesarily
flashy IMO
L660[18:01:00] <Kodos> I'm inclined to
agree, tbh. It looks cool, but there's way too much form, and too
little function
L661[18:01:52] <Izaya> You could fit a lot
more computers in that space
L662[18:02:01] <Izaya> Bonus points for a
single-chunk building
L663[18:02:08] <MajGenRelativity> Michiyo,
I applaud MichiBot's spam detection
L664[18:02:08] <MichiBot> Hello
MajGenRelativity
L665[18:02:15] <MajGenRelativity> Hello
MichiBot
L666[18:02:15] <MichiBot> Hello
MajGenRelativity
L667[18:02:19] <Izaya> oh no
L668[18:02:26] <MajGenRelativity> I'm not
going to win this, am I?
L669[18:03:19] <vifino> Izaya: yes, i
know.
L670[18:03:35] <Izaya> vifino: o-oh
L671[18:03:49] <vifino> also asteroidos
for watches.
L672[18:04:35] <Izaya>
>smartwatches
L673[18:04:42] <Izaya> I kinda want one
even though they're kinda dumb
L674[18:15:52] <Kodos> I had a pager watch
in high school
L675[18:18:08] <MGR> Eyyyy,
a pager
<MGR> Eyyyy,
a pagerL676[19:00:51]
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L693[21:16:59] <Direwolf20> o/
Everyone
L694[21:18:47] <ben_mkiv|afk> is it the
real dw20?
L695[21:18:50] <Direwolf20> i have what
may be an extremely indepth question about how OC handles running
sub programs from a main program using OS.execute
L696[21:18:50] <ben_mkiv|afk> o/
L697[21:19:02] <Direwolf20> o/
L698[21:21:09] <Direwolf20> i have program
'a' running in a loop, when it receives a trigger, it might call
program 'b' with os.execute("b.lua") and then go back to
looping, and that seems to work fine. Program B runs for x amount
of time (say 30 seconds) and seems to run in the background and
program A can continue receiving its triggers and running other
programs, while b keeps running
L699[21:21:58] <Direwolf20> however, if
program 'a' starts another program, say program 'c', and program
'c' has an os.sleep(5) in it, for example, i notice program 'b'
kinda gets paused as well, until the sleep from 'c' is done
L700[21:22:05] <Direwolf20> that may be
poorly explained :)
L701[21:22:57] <Direwolf20> i'm just
trying to understand how much 'multitasking' like that OC really
handles and kinda how
L702[21:24:09] <Direwolf20> and maybe if
theres a better way to run program 'b' such that it doesn't get
stuck when program c is calling an os.sleep
L703[21:24:25] <ben_mkiv|afk> can't help
with that as i actually wonder that there is multitasking at all.
but i'm sure someone will answer if you got some patience
L704[21:24:46] <Direwolf20> no worries ben
:)
L705[21:24:50] <Direwolf20> if anyone can
answer please DM me
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L707[21:25:01] <Direwolf20> it'd be most
helpful!
L708[21:29:10] <Izaya> uh
L709[21:29:18] <Izaya> I think os.sleep is
blocking
L710[21:29:33] <Izaya> unless a program
has a timer/event listener
L711[21:30:15] <Direwolf20> gotcha
L712[21:30:32] <Direwolf20> i never had
luck with timer/event listeners in the past, but i'm remembering
having to use them before
L713[21:30:55] <Direwolf20> so if i used a
timer/event, it would probably not block, cool got it :D
L714[21:31:16] <Izaya> if you only need to
do stuff when a specific event occurs
L715[21:31:27] <Izaya> the idea is to
register a listener and that will execute on that event
L716[21:31:34] <Izaya> timers are the same
thing but timed
L717[21:31:41] <Izaya> (I think timers may
actually be an event? \o/)
L718[21:31:49] <Direwolf20> i'm basically
doing a 30 second countdown on streen
L719[21:31:51] <ben_mkiv|afk>
probably^
L720[21:32:08] <Direwolf20> so for i =
30,1,-1 do sleep(1) print(i) end
L721[21:32:22] <Direwolf20> i could
replace that with a timer and event check
L722[21:32:37] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea
L723[21:33:01] <Izaya> could do function
mktimer() left=30 timer(function() print(left) left=left-1 end)
end
L724[21:33:09] <Izaya> I forget the actual
API
L725[21:33:15] <ben_mkiv|afk> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event
L726[21:33:20] <Direwolf20> cool i'll look
into it :)
L727[21:33:52] <ben_mkiv|afk> you want
event.timer at 1 second interval and some function which does the
countdown using some global var probably
L728[21:34:11] <Direwolf20> i've got
events going in program A's loop
L729[21:34:15] <Direwolf20> i'll see if it
gets in the way :)
L730[21:34:19] <Direwolf20> they aren't
timers though
L731[21:34:25] <Izaya> event.pull yields
so it should be fine
L732[21:34:36] <Izaya> long as you don't
use computer.pullSignal()
L733[22:01:36] <S3> whee
L734[22:01:39] <S3> coming along
L735[22:01:39] <S3> https://hastebin.com/tohizijete.4th
L736[22:02:04] <S3> 99.9999999% of all of
forth I can write in Forth itself
L737[22:02:20] <S3> and then hopefully
just run that on the OC machine inside of a very tiny core
builtin
L738[22:02:25] <ben_mkiv|afk> S3, what is
that for?
L739[22:02:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> oO
L740[22:02:33] <ben_mkiv|afk> meh
L741[22:02:36] <ben_mkiv|afk> all that
languages
L742[22:02:42] <ben_mkiv|afk> java, lua,
forth, scala, ...
L743[22:03:06] <S3> ?
L744[22:03:18] <S3> what are you going on
about now
L745[22:03:41] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: scary
part about forth
L746[22:04:06] <ben_mkiv|afk> its too much
different stuff for one thing, which is minecraft
L747[22:04:06] <S3> in this example like I
just pasted, forth is run by a compiler and an interreter, and the
compiler and interpreter are both written in forth itself
here
L748[22:04:07] <S3> :D
L749[22:04:32] <S3> interpreter*
L750[22:04:42] <S3> the compiler is
]
L751[22:04:47] <S3> and the interpreter is
INTERPRET
L752[22:05:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> please
stop
L753[22:05:11] <ben_mkiv|afk> :P
L754[22:05:13] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: Forth is
extremely useful for OC
L755[22:05:17] <Direwolf20> forth is what
red power ran on right?
L756[22:05:24] <S3> yeah
L757[22:05:30] <S3> Oh hi Direwolf20
!
L758[22:05:34] <Direwolf20> oh man i
remember having to learn that language a bit
L759[22:05:35] <Direwolf20> it was
scary
L760[22:05:37] <Direwolf20> also hi
:)
L761[22:05:53] <Direwolf20> i learned
enough to muddle through a mod spotlight, but it never really
'clicked'
L762[22:05:58] <Direwolf20> give me lua
anyday
L763[22:07:23] <S3> I never cared about it
too deeply but I am taking a research class in programming
languages and I chose to perform research on stack machines. Forth
just happened to be what came up in my head. It may be a bit..
odd... and maybe even daunting to sstare at, but it's a very pure
language, and a lot more powerful than it seems. I can still easily
create arrays and binary trees and metacompilers..
L764[22:08:28] <S3> Unless you're somebody
like me who likes to have an old 80486 computer from the 80s
kicking around you will probably never need to use it.
L765[22:09:12] <ben_mkiv|afk> i had a hard
time with lua first, indexing starting at 1
L766[22:09:30] <ben_mkiv|afk> is there any
other language with that behaviour? xD
L767[22:09:37] <S3> Direwolf20: madly
enough, I didn't write a single line of forth on that RPC/8e in
redpower. I wrote mostly in assembly for it and helped somebody
port C to it.
L768[22:09:50] <S3> I actually wrote C on
that damn redpower computer..
L769[22:10:21] <Direwolf20> nice
L770[22:10:25] <Direwolf20> i remember
someone wrote dos for it too
L771[22:10:36] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: that's
an annoying feature of Lua, but you get used to it..
L772[22:11:58] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: I can't
name any that use 1 as a starting index at the top of my head, I
think even basic used 0.. but I can tell you that starting at 0
confused a LOT of people back in the day when writing drivers for
floppy drives in real mode
L773[22:12:02] <S3> on real PCs
L774[22:12:54] <S3> accessing sector 0 is
something you should never do :D
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L776[22:15:30] <ben_mkiv|afk> it confused
me too, as kid
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L778[22:16:11] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: there
are much more confusing things that exist in the world of
programming. For example, Lisp has a goto statement....
L779[22:16:27] <S3> well it's not a
statement since lisp doesn't have statements, but it has a
goto.
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L781[22:16:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> well i've
started "coding" with qbasic
L782[22:17:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> so i'm used
to goto :D
L783[22:17:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> and
batch^
L784[22:17:25] <S3> LOL
L785[22:17:42] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk: Do you
know when I used QBASIC?
L786[22:17:44] <S3> last
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L788[22:18:10] <S3> %L 29 - 8
L789[22:18:13] <ben_mkiv|afk> for me its
probably like 20 years ago
L790[22:18:14] <S3> I can't do maths
L791[22:18:46] <S3> yeah i was like 8, it
wasn't my first interaction with programming, as my first was an
earlier basic than that
L792[22:18:54] <S3> so 21 years ago
ish
L793[22:19:21] <S3> i started with
extended color basic
L794[22:19:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> :)
L795[22:19:37] <ben_mkiv|afk> probably
also started with 386 or 486?
L796[22:20:35] <S3> OMG I found the book
online just by searching about it
L797[22:20:38] <S3> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Hardware/Getting%20Started%20With%20Extended%20Color%20Basic%20(Tandy).pdf
L798[22:20:45] <S3> no it was a motorola
6809
L799[22:20:53] <S3> my second computer was
a 486
L800[22:22:04] <S3> Direwolf20: I don't
understand how people never grew up with MS/PC-DOS or windows 3.1
with winsock beta using netscape communicator
L801[22:22:30] <S3> woops
L802[22:22:34] <S3> ben_mkiv|afk*
L803[22:22:52] <ben_mkiv|afk> 3.11 for me
:D
L804[22:23:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> i had some
qbasic book with prewritten programs in it
L805[22:23:17] <ben_mkiv|afk> first i
started to type them off, later made my own
L806[22:23:21] <S3> we have a machine at
work running windows NT 4.0 and I had to help them repair
it..
L807[22:23:36] <S3> very few people had
the experience with the hardware in that thing XD
L808[22:24:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> can't
remember it fully, but wasn't NT4 like the first Microsoft OS not
based on DOS?
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L810[22:25:06] <S3> I don't really
remember the details of that too much, I wouldn't be surprised. The
thing is NT became 2000, and that eventually became XP
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L812[22:25:35] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea good old
times <3
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L814[22:25:47] <ben_mkiv|afk> my first
linux experience was a fail because i wasnt able to install the
mouse
L815[22:25:48] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L816[22:25:56] <S3> Me iirc was just a
continuation of 9x while NT was sort of hardened for XP
L817[22:26:04] <ben_mkiv|afk> suse linux
5.2
L818[22:26:23] <S3> heh
L819[22:27:19] <S3> I remember getting up
in the morning and sitting down and typing in WOLF
L820[22:27:49] <S3> this game: http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/12672-wolfenstein-3d-dos-front-cover.jpg
L821[22:30:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L822[22:30:42] <ben_mkiv|afk> when i was
like 14 or so i got the pc of some coworker of my dad
L823[22:30:46] <ben_mkiv|afk> with doom
and stuff on it xD
L824[22:31:21] <ben_mkiv|afk> and there
was like a "ultrabrutal" game
L825[22:31:44] <ben_mkiv|afk> rise of the
triad
L826[22:32:17] <ben_mkiv|afk> ah seems to
be something between wolfenstein and duke3d
L827[22:32:28] <ben_mkiv|afk> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Triad
L828[22:32:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L829[22:32:54] <ben_mkiv|afk> looking at
actual games, it's pretty friendly
L830[22:35:48] <S3> heh
L831[22:36:14] <S3> I wonder what cool
stuff Direwolf20 is working on that brings him to #OC
L832[22:36:45] <S3> Maybe it's top
secret
L833[22:36:49] <ben_mkiv|afk> he teached
the people who teached me
L834[22:37:11] <S3> ?
L835[22:37:24] <ben_mkiv|afk> i got
teached ingame
L836[22:37:30] <ben_mkiv|afk> not the guy
who watches 20mins of youtube
L837[22:37:33] <ben_mkiv|afk> to get 1
minute of information
L838[22:37:42] <ben_mkiv|afk> nothing
wrong with those tutorials
L839[22:37:52] <ben_mkiv|afk> i'm just
lazy and like efficency
L840[22:39:22] <Direwolf20> seeeeeecrets
S3 :)
L841[22:40:00] <S3> I think videos like
Direwolf20's are very important for the modern age. I mean, I'm 29
and I was born a bit before the rage of the new types of learners I
think, so I prefer a manual in front of me full of documentation,
but people of today love videos, and Direwolf20 puts a lot of work
in them.
L842[22:40:23] <Direwolf20> Thanks :D i
should update some of my programming videos, i think i only had a
handleful
L843[22:40:30] <Direwolf20> and it covered
basics like if then, variables, loops, etc
L844[22:40:34] <Direwolf20> and tried to
target kids
L845[22:40:50] <Direwolf20> bedtime for me
though:D
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L847[22:44:20] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea S3, they
are legit
L848[22:44:41] <ben_mkiv|afk> people learn
from it so nothing wrong here
L849[22:45:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> but yeah
might be the generation thing, as we learned another way to teach
ourself
L850[22:46:25] <S3> so, it's not the same
thing as autism
L851[22:46:38] <S3> but in behavioral
classes we call it "autistic learning"
L852[22:47:10] <S3> people who are
autistic learners don't necessarily have autism; It means that they
need pizaz to retain information
L853[22:47:11] <ben_mkiv|afk> autodidact
is a common used term i guess
L854[22:47:26] <ben_mkiv|afk> like self
teaching
L855[22:47:29] <S3> they need something to
jump out at them screaming with flying epileptic colors, "I am
the letter W!"
L856[22:47:39] <S3> but I am an auditory
learner
L857[22:47:55] <S3> I learn by compiling
words
L858[22:48:02] <S3> and speecj
L859[22:48:05] <S3> speech*
L860[22:48:14] <S3> most people from my
age are simply visual learners
L861[22:48:57] <S3> but I wonder if the
concept of autistic learning became normal because of the types of
cartoons and stuff kids watch nowadays..
L862[22:49:02] <S3> I'm not sure
L863[22:49:21] <S3> have you seen like the
new 3D inspector gadget? wtf...
L864[22:49:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> so autistic
learning is the visual learning?
L865[22:49:50] <S3> autistic learning is
an extension of visual learning from what I was told, but I don't
study this stuff either
L866[22:50:09] <ben_mkiv|afk> dont know
what you mean with 3d inspector
L867[22:50:12] <ben_mkiv|afk> whats
it?
L868[22:50:13] <S3> autistic learning is
the new gen stuff, where everybody needs something that really
captures their attention to retain information
L869[22:50:34] <S3> hm. we used to have
this old cartoon called inspector gadget
L870[22:50:39] <ben_mkiv|afk> i think
thats not new gen, that allways was a thing
L871[22:50:46] <S3> they made it 3D after
all these years and lesson learning based
L872[22:50:50] <ben_mkiv|afk> i do know
inspector gadget :P
L873[22:50:53] <S3> it's kind of
upsetting
L874[22:51:04] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh
L875[22:51:18] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea they did
that with almost all cartoons
L876[22:51:19] <S3> it's like inspector
gadget meets 3D and clifford the big red dog
L877[22:51:20] <S3> lol
L878[22:51:34] <S3> I am
dissapointed
L879[22:51:39] <ben_mkiv|afk> damn i loved
inspector gadget
L880[22:51:45] <ben_mkiv|afk> was probably
one of my favorit cartoons
L881[22:51:47] <S3> right
L882[22:52:08] <S3> next they'll ruin
angry beavers with a reboot
L883[22:52:18] <S3> you just wait
L884[22:52:23] <ben_mkiv|afk> lel
L885[22:52:26] <ben_mkiv|afk> angry
beavers
L886[22:52:34] <ben_mkiv|afk> they are
called "beaver bro's" in germany
L887[22:52:36] <S3> and animaniacs
L888[22:52:41] <S3> really?
L889[22:52:43] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea
L890[22:52:44] <S3> that's epic
L891[22:53:05] <S3> can you imagine an
educational pinky and the brain?
L892[22:53:05] <S3> :P
L893[22:53:08] <ben_mkiv|afk> leeel
L894[22:53:28] <S3> Let's use our brain
today pinky to learn our ABCs!
L895[22:53:32] <ben_mkiv|afk> that was the
most disgusting cartoon back then
L896[22:53:38] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh
wait
L897[22:53:42] <ben_mkiv|afk> thinking of
ren and stimpy
L898[22:53:43] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L899[22:53:46] <S3> \heh
L900[22:53:54] <S3> one is a genius, the
other is INSANE!
L901[22:54:09] <S3> roccos modern
life..
L902[22:54:50] <S3> All I know is, as soon
as I saw a tv show called baby looney tunes I knew shit was going
down the drain
L903[22:54:56] <S3> and that was like 10
years ago
L904[22:55:13] <ben_mkiv|afk> but well
thats what happens
L905[22:55:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> also if you
watch most of the old cartoons you just think "wtf did i watch
back then?"
L906[22:55:50] <S3> depends
L907[22:56:01] <S3> I still watch Tom
& Jerry
L908[22:56:08] <S3> and Bugs Bunny
L909[22:57:26] <S3> btw, have you seen
boobah?
L910[22:57:26] <ben_mkiv|afk> same, got
them running to get to sleep sometimes
L911[22:57:31] <ben_mkiv|afk> and
peanuts
L912[22:57:43] <S3> boobah scares children
all around the world, I guarantee it
L913[22:57:45] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea, i
heared of it from some twitch streamer
L914[22:57:49] <ben_mkiv|afk> those weired
puppets
L915[22:57:54] <S3> yeah
L916[22:57:59] <S3> weird alien puppet
babies
L917[22:58:02] <S3> the new
telletubbies
L918[22:58:16] <S3> it's worse than
telletubbies, and I can't believe I'm saying that
L919[22:58:21] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L920[22:58:56] <S3> at least telletubbies
was an organizzed show even though it was stupid as shit
L921[22:59:07] <S3> this is just
whack
L922[22:59:34] <S3> so, we know this,
television these days is a problem
L923[22:59:39] <S3> and WTF is dinosaur
train?!
L924[22:59:46] <S3> wtf is that
L925[23:00:25] <S3> but anyways, another
problem is that paarents are hovering over their childs development
now and holding their hands all the way
L926[23:00:48] <S3> you wonder why more
kids can't grow up to take care of themselves these days
L927[23:01:17] <S3> it's because they
never did anything that could have given them more than a
papercut
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L933[23:58:44] <Temia> Is it bad that I
want to put my computer to sleep while my Windows VM is running,
just to see how the hardware passthroughs would react?