L1[00:00:17] <Izaya> (also, editing a 30k
file on a 256k T1 machine is slow but doable)
L2[00:04:30] <Izaya> takes like 2 minutes to
write it back to disk
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L5[00:30:56] <Saphire> gamax92: what are you
doing? O.o
L6[00:34:10] <gamax92> Hmm?
L7[00:40:02] <Saphire> gamax92: with DLLs
and etc?
L8[00:41:24] <gamax92> DLL plan is a failure
but it would have made some stuff easier due to being in the same
memory space
L9[00:58:19] <Saphire> gamax92: what is the
end goal though?
L10[00:59:12] <gamax92> Add new
functionality
L11[01:10:40] <gamax92> Oh I see, instead
of ptrace one can use procesd_vm_readv and process_vm_writev
L12[01:23:16] 
<Saphire>
gamax92: functionality to what? <.< I am trying to find out
what you're messing around with for... 2 hours now? Three?
<Saphire>
gamax92: functionality to what? <.< I am trying to find out
what you're messing around with for... 2 hours now? Three?L13[01:24:00] <gamax92> I'm going to
sleep
L14[01:25:36] <Saphire> Good night..?
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functionality to q-q
L16[01:26:20] <noper>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
<noper>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻L17[01:26:55] <Saphire> Hm?
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L19[02:52:15] <payomc> o/
L20[02:52:27] <payomc> test
L21[02:52:49] <payomc> \o
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L28[03:20:16] <payonel> i'm about 350 bytes
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L39[05:18:24] <Toskin> Is
possible to distribute energy over network with relays or you have
to tandem every one with power distributer?
<Toskin> Is
possible to distribute energy over network with relays or you have
to tandem every one with power distributer?L40[05:20:58] ⇦
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L43[05:28:05] <Forecaster>
relays don't transfer power I don't think
<Forecaster>
relays don't transfer power I don't thinkL44[05:29:47] <MGR> They
do not
<MGR> They
do notL45[05:32:14] *
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L46[05:32:28] <Izaya> Any idea why
os.time() on your server doesn't return seconds?
L47[05:37:49] <20kdc> you
mean that os.time() *ever* returned seconds?
<20kdc> you
mean that os.time() *ever* returned seconds?L48[05:38:08] <Izaya> It returned seconds
on all the machines I tried
L49[05:38:17] <Izaya> that includes many
Linux boxes and a few Windows boxes
L50[05:38:28] <20kdc> that
thing was so unreliable when I was writing KittenOS that I just
gave up and used uptime
<20kdc> that
thing was so unreliable when I was writing KittenOS that I just
gave up and used uptimeL51[05:38:40] <Izaya> yeah I switched to
uptime
L52[05:39:37] <20kdc> and
even if it does return world-time you want to be careful
anyway
<20kdc> and
even if it does return world-time you want to be careful
anywayL53[05:41:55] <MGR> It's a
custom blend of the finest coffees and spices, including some java,
cocoa beans, and even roasted walnuts, for that fresh taste.
<MGR> It's a
custom blend of the finest coffees and spices, including some java,
cocoa beans, and even roasted walnuts, for that fresh taste.L54[05:45:43] <Izaya> yay, the latency on
here is silly enough that it doesn't matter how slow nsh is
L55[05:52:22] <Saphire> Heya @20kdc
o/
L56[05:52:49] <20kdc> MGR:
May I ask *what* is this custom blend?
<20kdc> MGR:
May I ask *what* is this custom blend?L57[05:52:58] <20kdc> As
in, you're referring to something, a subject,
<20kdc> As
in, you're referring to something, a subject,L58[05:53:01] <20kdc> but
I don't know what.
<20kdc> but
I don't know what.L59[05:53:07] <20kdc>
Saphire: Hello
<20kdc>
Saphire: HelloL60[05:54:01] ⇨
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L61[05:58:32] <Saphire> @20kdc Uh, I kinda
want to ask you about your networking protocol/stack. Mainly, how
the routing works? I couldn't see much about it in the docs
L62[05:59:02] <Izaya> server has crashed,
10/10
L63[05:59:05] <20kdc>
Routing is implementation-dependent.
<20kdc>
Routing is implementation-dependent.L64[05:59:36] <20kdc> It
is up to the implementation to define the routing algorithm that
suits the usecase.
<20kdc> It
is up to the implementation to define the routing algorithm that
suits the usecase.L65[06:02:28] <MGR>
It
<MGR>
ItL66[06:03:57] ⇨
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L74[07:45:39] <AmandaC> @mgr devours
L75[07:46:05] <MGR>
Devours what?
<MGR>
Devours what?L76[07:46:18] <Forecaster>
*everything*
<Forecaster>
*everything*L77[07:46:24] <MGR> That
is true
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L80[07:47:53] <AmandaC> I was completing
the "it" line you said
L81[07:47:59] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL82[07:48:01] <Forecaster>
I question the authenticity of that image purely based on it
depicting someone wearing sunglasses undoors
<Forecaster>
I question the authenticity of that image purely based on it
depicting someone wearing sunglasses undoorsL83[07:48:07] <Saphire> http://imgur.com/gallery/s26ou
L84[07:48:12] <Forecaster>
indoors*
<Forecaster>
indoors*L85[07:48:16] <Saphire> ...it hurts to look
at this album
L86[07:48:24] <MGR>
@Forecaster It's because he is so cool
<MGR>
@Forecaster It's because he is so coolL87[07:48:58] <Forecaster>
I'm sorry to inform you that wearing sunglasses indoors is not
cool
<Forecaster>
I'm sorry to inform you that wearing sunglasses indoors is not
coolL88[07:49:02] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL89[07:49:36] <MGR> But
but but
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L91[07:51:26] <Forecaster>
only people who wear sunglasses indoors thinks wearing sunglasses
indoors is cool
<Forecaster>
only people who wear sunglasses indoors thinks wearing sunglasses
indoors is coolL92[07:51:48] <AmandaC> Therefor, @MGR
isn't cool?
L93[07:54:20] <AmandaC> I had always
suspected as such,t hanks for providing the proof,
@Forecaster
L94[07:57:26] <MGR> I
don't wear sunglasses indoors
<MGR> I
don't wear sunglasses indoorsL95[07:57:32] <MGR> Or
usually outdoors
<MGR> Or
usually outdoorsL96[07:57:35] <Saphire> Why would anyone
need sunglasses when you can just close the blinds?
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L98[07:57:53] *
AmandaC prefers to just turn off the sun, herself.
L99[07:57:59] <Saphire> (though, it still
shines brightly /under/ mine)
L100[07:58:17] <Inari> Orange glasses are
actually the best
L101[07:58:19] <MGR> I
agree with AmandaC
<MGR> I
agree with AmandaCL102[07:58:21] <Inari> Tint the whole
world orange warm
L103[07:58:24] *
Izaya burns the sun with fire
L104[07:58:41] <AmandaC> @MGR it'sgood
that you accept that you're not cool. :)
L105[07:59:01] <Saphire> Izaya: that's
just more sun!
L106[07:59:08] <MGR> No, I
meant with the turning the sun off
<MGR> No, I
meant with the turning the sun offL107[07:59:14] *
Izaya burns the fire on the sun with fire
L108[07:59:34] <AmandaC> Don't be silly,
that's not possible by you mere mortals, you'd die in the resulting
timeline where the earth freezes over.
L109[08:00:14] <Inari> possibily die
L110[08:01:55] <AmandaC> %choose yappa paa
or try and be productive
L111[08:01:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and
be productive
L112[08:01:59] <AmandaC> oh FINE
L113[08:03:45] *
Inari feeds AmandaC metaballs
L114[08:03:54] <Izaya> jump behind a glass
wall for cover
L115[08:03:56] <Izaya> nice
L116[08:04:31] *
AmandaC noms th emeta
L117[08:04:47] *
AmandaC turns even more meta
L118[08:05:15] <Izaya> ... oh.
L119[08:05:17] <Izaya> shit.
L120[08:05:24] <Izaya> it's not even the
end of the season and thatr was a hell of a wham episode.
L121[08:05:43] <AmandaC> Izaya: what
show?
L122[08:06:01] <Izaya> Veronica Mars
L123[08:06:42] <AmandaC> I see
L124[08:12:31] *
Izaya is confused how the second half of the season is going to
work, let alone the next
L125[08:14:23] <Izaya> oh
L126[08:14:26] <Izaya> that WAS the last
episode
L127[08:14:36] <Izaya> alright, next
L128[08:31:39] <Tbat> To all lua gurus:
What is a sane way to store coordinates in lua? I would like to
reference each of them like with a list in python. list[0], list[1]
and so on.
L129[08:32:09] <Tbat> Basically add an
subtract to x,y,z.
L130[08:32:34] <Forecaster>
use a lua list?
<Forecaster>
use a lua list?L131[08:32:50] <Forecaster>
local coors = { x=1, y=2, z=3 }
<Forecaster>
local coors = { x=1, y=2, z=3 }L132[08:33:00] <Forecaster>
local coords = { x=1, y=2, z=3 }
<Forecaster>
local coords = { x=1, y=2, z=3 }L133[08:33:11] <Forecaster>
coords["x"]
<Forecaster>
coords["x"]L134[08:33:39] <Forecaster>
or table, rather
<Forecaster>
or table, ratherL135[08:33:57] <Tbat> so you are naming
them, like json kinda
L136[08:34:05] <Tbat> ok, will look into
table
L137[08:34:10] <Forecaster>
or local coords = { 1, 2, 3 }
<Forecaster>
or local coords = { 1, 2, 3 }L138[08:34:15] <Tbat> thanks Forecaster
!
L139[08:34:18] <Forecaster>
coords[1]
<Forecaster>
coords[1]L140[08:34:20] <Forecaster>
if you want indexes
<Forecaster>
if you want indexesL141[08:34:27] <Tbat> that's more like it
yes
L142[08:34:37] <Inari> Naming is
better
L143[08:34:47] <Forecaster>
I'd prefer named
<Forecaster>
I'd prefer namedL144[08:34:51] <Forecaster>
makes the code more readable
<Forecaster>
makes the code more readableL145[08:34:54] <Inari> With indeces you
don't know if its xyz or xyz
L146[08:34:57] <Inari> *xzy
L147[08:35:01] <Inari> And that
L148[08:35:36] <Tbat> In my drone script
it will always be xyz cause that's relative to drone.move()
L149[08:35:41] <Tbat> but yeah,
readability
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L151[08:42:42] <Inari> Theres a downside
to naming, you can't iterate it nicely, unless you have a special
function for that or so
L152[08:43:12] <Forecaster>
what
<Forecaster>
whatL153[08:43:14] <Forecaster>
yes you can
<Forecaster>
yes you canL154[08:43:28] <Inari> With indeces I can
do a for loop to go through x, y and z
L155[08:43:31] <Forecaster>
for k,v in pairs(table) then
<Forecaster>
for k,v in pairs(table) thenL156[08:43:53] <Inari> That doesn't
guarantee an order
L157[08:44:05] <Forecaster>
it guarantees the order they were defined in
<Forecaster>
it guarantees the order they were defined inL158[08:44:14] <Inari> Since when?
oo
L159[08:44:31] <Forecaster>
that's how they're stored?
<Forecaster>
that's how they're stored?L160[08:44:40] <Forecaster>
I assume it keeps that order
<Forecaster>
I assume it keeps that orderL161[08:45:20] <Inari> 'The order in which
the indices are enumerated is not specified, even for numeric
indices. (To traverse a table in numerical order, use a numerical
for.)'
L162[08:45:45] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL163[08:51:16]
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L164[09:06:54] <Zerray> hey guys, how do
auto boot the robot on server restart?
L165[09:07:01] <Zerray> to*
L166[09:07:12] <Izaya> it shouldn't need
it
L167[09:09:04] <AmandaC> as long as it's
not been shut down, it should boot on it's own
L168[09:09:38] <Zerray> nope after server
restart the display is "on" but therobot it self do
nothing
L169[09:11:33] <Tbat> what was it doing
before the restart?
L170[09:12:08] <Zerray> iddling just
active
L171[09:13:38] <Tbat> so it does the same
before and after restart?
L172[09:13:47] <Tbat> I don't understand
what you want it to do.
L173[09:14:33] <Zerray> after the server
reboots I have to reboot the robot inorder to do something with it,
i got a mining script which is at the moment inactive cause if the
server restarts the robot could be 200 blocks far away
L174[09:15:03] <Forecaster>
does the robot have a chunkloader?
<Forecaster>
does the robot have a chunkloader?L175[09:15:19] <Zerray> installed but not
active atm
L176[09:15:27] <Zerray> I could try that
out
L177[09:16:25] <Zerray> but its the same
with computers they are shut off after server restart, the green
light isnt emitting anymore
L178[09:16:35] <Saphire> AmandaC: speaking
of sunglasses
L179[09:16:37] <Saphire> http://i.imgur.com/TLdsTDk.jpg
L180[09:17:04] <Tbat> can it be something
with luaJ or what it's called?
L181[09:17:23] <Forecaster>
who would use cheez-its as jam, that sounds horrible
<Forecaster>
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L183[09:18:46] <Tbat> http://ocdoc.cil.li/ - LuaJ under Persistence
L184[09:23:52] <Temia> Hmm. Grab a CPU and
sneak-click it a few times, see what happens?
L185[09:24:22] <Temia> LuaJ is considered
its own architecture, so if it's the only one, that'll be what you
see when you try to change it.
L186[09:40:47] <Saphire> Temia: there's a
very annoying and yet uncaught ghost bug that makes computers just
"hang" after loading the chunk/server somehow.
L187[09:40:54] <Saphire> Or it was caught?
IDK
L188[09:44:00] <Tbat> Saphire, actually,
that happens from time to time, but rarely and hard to
reproduce.
L189[09:44:12] <Tbat> I meant, happens to
me.
L190[09:45:41] <Saphire> ^ what I
meant
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L192[09:48:06] <temporary_2378837> I have
a question regarding robots with chunkloaders. As robot's
chunkloader loads only the chunk robot is in, how would it work
when robot will attempt to move to the adjacent chunk?
L193[09:48:27] <Forecaster>
then it will start loading the new chunk
<Forecaster>
then it will start loading the new chunkL194[09:49:02] <temporary_2378837> It will
load adjacent chunk, then check whether the movement is possible,
and then move, yes?
L195[09:49:06] <Forecaster>
the robot is never in more than one chunk
<Forecaster>
the robot is never in more than one chunkL196[09:49:23] <Forecaster>
probably
<Forecaster>
probablyL197[09:49:58] <temporary_2378837> True.
But I think that two chunks are required to be loaded to check
movement. Consider the following situation:
L198[09:50:20] <temporary_2378837> Robot
tries to move to the adjacent chunk, but the block which it tries
to move to is not air.
L199[09:50:22] <Forecaster>
yes I know
<Forecaster>
yes I knowL200[09:51:02] <temporary_2378837> So we
need to have both chunks loaded, the original one because robot's
still here during the check
L201[09:51:20] <temporary_2378837> and the
one which we're trying to move to, to check the possibility of
movement
L202[09:51:20] <AmandaC> It doesn't have
to /stay loaded, though
L203[09:51:46] <Mimiru> it's quiet easy to
load a chunk quickly to check if a block exists, or what it
is.
L204[09:51:53] <Forecaster>
I don't know why you think that wouldn't be accounted for
<Forecaster>
I don't know why you think that wouldn't be accounted forL205[09:52:05] <Forecaster>
it'd be super useless if the robot could just remain in the one
chunk
<Forecaster>
it'd be super useless if the robot could just remain in the one
chunkL206[09:52:20] <Mimiru> but that ^
L207[09:52:23] <AmandaC> ISTR hearing
about people making postal robots, so it's probably done
right.
L208[09:52:26] <Mimiru> it works ™
L209[09:53:14] <Forecaster>
AmandaC is that a robot that goes around and places posts because I
have one of those :P
<Forecaster>
AmandaC is that a robot that goes around and places posts because I
have one of those :PL210[09:53:29] <AmandaC> @Forecastal, no,
that's a posting robot.
L211[09:53:35] <Forecaster>
darn
<Forecaster>
darnL212[09:54:51] <temporary_2378837> Thanks
for answer. I just wanted to be sure so I won't run into weird
issues later. So if robot tries to interact with adjacent chunk
(move, use, swing) it loads, but otherwise it stays unloaded,
right?
L213[09:58:08] <temporary_2378837>
Actually, I'll just check all interactions I can think of myself.
Thanks.
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L218[11:16:00] <Forecaster>
what....
<Forecaster>
what....L219[11:17:02] <Forecaster>
payonel halp
<Forecaster>
payonel halpL220[11:33:37]
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L222[11:37:36] <Inari> @Forecaster you
broke it
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L224[13:02:02] <Forecaster>
I wish getting the address off of a component was easier for things
you can't use an analyzer on
<Forecaster>
I wish getting the address off of a component was easier for things
you can't use an analyzer onL225[13:27:53] <Inari> Whats that?
L226[13:27:55] <Inari> Mod blocks?
L227[13:28:03] <Forecaster>
items...
<Forecaster>
items...L228[13:28:13] <Inari> Hm I thought you
see it in their tooltip
L229[13:28:42] <Forecaster>
1. it only shows part of it
<Forecaster>
1. it only shows part of itL230[13:28:42] <Forecaster>
and 2. you can't copy it
<Forecaster>
and 2. you can't copy itL231[13:28:49] <Inari> Ah :p
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L233[13:57:06] <Kodos>
Doesn't the keyboard have add to clipboard functions
<Kodos>
Doesn't the keyboard have add to clipboard functionsL234[13:57:31] <Kodos> Wait
what items
<Kodos> Wait
what itemsL235[13:59:27] <Forecaster>
a network card for example
<Forecaster>
a network card for exampleL236[14:02:07] <Kodos>
Component.get
<Kodos>
Component.getL237[14:02:26] <Kodos> Use
he first 3-5 chars of the address
<Kodos> Use
he first 3-5 chars of the addressL238[14:02:46] <Kodos>
Alternatively component.modem.address
<Kodos>
Alternatively component.modem.addressL239[14:02:54] <Kodos>
Should be a constant
<Kodos>
Should be a constantL240[14:03:19] <Forecaster>
none of that helps when you want to specify the address of a remote
network card for sending messages.
<Forecaster>
none of that helps when you want to specify the address of a remote
network card for sending messages.L241[14:03:30] <Kodos>
Write a handshake
<Kodos>
Write a handshakeL242[14:03:33] <Forecaster>
you need the entire address, and there's no way to simply copy it
to the clipboard
<Forecaster>
you need the entire address, and there's no way to simply copy it
to the clipboardL243[14:03:51] <Kodos> I
use a syntax that helps
<Kodos> I
use a syntax that helpsL244[14:04:55] <Kodos>
Basically you put a network message type. Then the senders address.
Then the message. So you'd have
"AUTH|thisaddress|keytoauth"
<Kodos>
Basically you put a network message type. Then the senders address.
Then the message. So you'd have
"AUTH|thisaddress|keytoauth"L245[14:05:21] <Kodos> Then
the auth server parses that message
<Kodos> Then
the auth server parses that messageL246[14:05:37] <Forecaster>
that's way overkill for an elevator
<Forecaster>
that's way overkill for an elevatorL247[14:06:10] <Kodos> So
is a network. I use thuts elevators for ic controlled
<Kodos> So
is a network. I use thuts elevators for ic controlledL248[14:06:18] <Kodos>
Oc*
<Kodos>
Oc*L249[14:06:42] <Forecaster>
good for you
<Forecaster>
good for youL250[14:06:48] <Forecaster>
I'm using the tools I have available
<Forecaster>
I'm using the tools I have availableL251[14:43:25]
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L252[15:00:31] <AmandaC> %choose yappa paa
or code or meh
L253[15:00:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: yappa
paa
L254[15:03:00] <Forecaster>
a fine choice
<Forecaster>
a fine choiceL255[15:27:12] <AmandaC> @Forecaster have
you considered a microservice archetecture for your eleveator?
Should just nee 2-3 full racks of T3 servers.
L256[15:27:42] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL257[15:27:44] <AmandaC> %choose another
or try and be productive again
L258[15:27:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
another
L259[15:27:53] <Forecaster>
sounds like a great plan
<Forecaster>
sounds like a great planL260[15:28:16] <ben_mkiv> do it with
microcontrollers, IoT is the new trend
L261[15:28:29] <Forecaster>
I'll get working on that, should be finished late 2018 at the
latest™
<Forecaster>
I'll get working on that, should be finished late 2018 at the
latest™L262[15:28:33] <ben_mkiv> controll them
with pastebin commands so that interenet is really involved
L263[15:28:55] <CompanionCube> what's the
latest OC framework to use? :P
L264[15:29:05] <AmandaC> Whatr do you mean
2018? Don't you normally have a MVP ready in a couple of weeks?
(Which you then ship)
L265[15:29:12] <20kdc>
ben\_mkiv: tried that
<20kdc>
ben\_mkiv: tried thatL266[15:29:22] <ben_mkiv> but spam
protection nerfed it?
L267[15:29:41] <Zerray> hey guys did
someone try to assembel a robot in #115 ?
L268[15:30:03] <20kdc>
ben\_mkiv: that is, tried IoT street lamp switches. trouble is
people keep haxing the node and trying to make it morse "HELP
ME BEES ARE TORTURING ME"
<20kdc>
ben\_mkiv: that is, tried IoT street lamp switches. trouble is
people keep haxing the node and trying to make it morse "HELP
ME BEES ARE TORTURING ME"L269[15:30:03] <Zerray> the stuff
disappear and no robot is created
L270[15:30:18] <ben_mkiv> Zerray the
1.10.2 dev release?
L271[15:30:27] <20kdc> plus
they keep changing the node name
<20kdc> plus
they keep changing the node nameL272[15:30:28] <ben_mkiv> could give it a
try as im using this version atm
L273[15:30:44] <ben_mkiv> lol 20kdc
xD
L274[15:30:57] <Forecaster>
AmandaC dunno what an MVP is, but you gotta account for
lazyness
<Forecaster>
AmandaC dunno what an MVP is, but you gotta account for
lazynessL275[15:30:57] <Zerray> but in survival
mode
L276[15:31:16] <ben_mkiv> yea, just have
to wait 2mins for my broken main screen to turn finally on
-.-
L277[15:31:28] <AmandaC> MVP = Minimal
Viable Product
L278[15:32:41] <ben_mkiv> also zerray you
got no chests or other stuff with inventory next to the
assembler?
L279[15:32:51] <ben_mkiv> because they
autooutput
L280[15:32:56] <Zerray> nope
L281[15:33:00] <Forecaster>
ah, well, like I said, lazyness
<Forecaster>
ah, well, like I said, lazynessL282[15:33:39] <payonel> Forecaster:
?
L283[15:34:27] <Zerray> we tried it now 3
times everytime every component disapear out of the assembler
L284[15:34:37] <ben_mkiv> trying now
L285[15:35:01] <Forecaster>
ohai payonel
<Forecaster>
ohai payonelL286[15:35:43] <payonel> o/
L287[15:35:54] <Forecaster>
I broke the things again
<Forecaster>
I broke the things againL288[15:37:33] <payonel> oh really?!
L289[15:37:35] <payonel> awesome!
L290[15:37:39] <payonel> is it broken
right now?
L291[15:37:45] <Forecaster>
yeah, but in a different way
<Forecaster>
yeah, but in a different wayL292[15:37:48] <payonel> oh
L293[15:37:50] <Forecaster>
see the image I linked
<Forecaster>
see the image I linkedL294[15:37:51] <payonel> splain?
L295[15:38:00] <payonel> ^.-
L296[15:38:08] <Forecaster>
uh
<Forecaster>
uhL297[15:38:10] <payonel> foudn it
L298[15:38:14] <payonel> found*
L299[15:38:18] <Forecaster>
I don't know what that was supposed to be
<Forecaster>
I don't know what that was supposed to beL300[15:38:57] <ben_mkiv> so my first try
worked fine Zerray
L301[15:38:57] <payonel> what,
"^.-" ? that's me with a raised eyebrow
confused/wondering where the link was
L302[15:39:10] <Forecaster>
anyway, all I did was add my script to the .scrn or whatever file
that I can never remember the name of
<Forecaster>
anyway, all I did was add my script to the .scrn or whatever file
that I can never remember the name ofL303[15:39:10] <payonel> Forecaster: so
... do you have a repro for this or are you afraid to reboot and
lose it?
L304[15:39:29] <Zerray> hm
strange...
L305[15:39:36] <payonel> Forecaster:
/home/.shrc ?
L306[15:39:42] <Forecaster>
yeah, that one :P
<Forecaster>
yeah, that one :PL307[15:39:45] <ben_mkiv> wait a
second
L308[15:39:53] <payonel> Forecaster: but
this can repro?
L309[15:39:57] <Forecaster>
the line in my script it points to was just a
`print("Something")`
<Forecaster>
the line in my script it points to was just a
`print("Something")`L310[15:40:03] <ben_mkiv> wrong version
-.-
L311[15:40:10] <payonel> yeah, during
print it sets up the buffer mode
L312[15:40:27] <Zerray> lol @ben xD
L313[15:40:28] <Forecaster>
I'm not sure, I kept working on my thing and changed the scripts a
lot
<Forecaster>
I'm not sure, I kept working on my thing and changed the scripts a
lotL314[15:40:38] <ben_mkiv> when you have 10
minecraft instances in multimc and update the wrong one...
L315[15:40:41] <payonel> Forecaster:
:(
L316[15:40:53] <payonel> you're supposed
to keep the bugs :|
L317[15:40:53] <Zerray> 1.10.2 btw
L318[15:40:56] <Forecaster>
I didn't try adding it to the autorun again
<Forecaster>
I didn't try adding it to the autorun againL319[15:40:59] <payonel> how am i supposed
to fix things if you dont have a repro
L320[15:41:03] <ben_mkiv>
OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.2.115-dev.jar
L321[15:41:05] <ben_mkiv> testing
thisnow
L322[15:41:06] <payonel> NO
L323[15:41:08] <payonel> ben_mkiv:
L324[15:41:09] <payonel> no
L325[15:41:12] <payonel> please don't use
115
L326[15:41:21] <payonel> 116
L327[15:41:23] <payonel> or 114
L328[15:41:24] <ben_mkiv> but we are
talking about 115 :>
L329[15:41:25] <payonel> not 115
L330[15:41:30] <ben_mkiv> 115 just added
ae2 support?!
L331[15:41:35] <Forecaster>
but it only broke when I ran it through shrc
<Forecaster>
but it only broke when I ran it through shrcL332[15:41:35] <payonel> 116 still has
it
L333[15:41:51] <payonel> Forecaster: but
if you put it in .shrc again, does it break the same or -- can you
make it break again?
L334[15:41:53] <Forecaster>
running it manually did not trigger the crash
<Forecaster>
running it manually did not trigger the crashL335[15:42:05] <ben_mkiv> yea, but we are
talking about robot crafting, which shouldnt be affected by adding
ae2 support back
L336[15:42:18] <payonel> ben_mkiv: openos
has a stupid bug in 115
L337[15:42:23] <payonel> please test/do
anything with 116
L338[15:42:27] <Forecaster>
payonel: you know typing my name like that doesn't highlight me
right? :P
<Forecaster>
payonel: you know typing my name like that doesn't highlight me
right? :PL339[15:42:37] <payonel> Forecaster:
that's your fault
L340[15:42:39] <Forecaster>
I'll try tomorrow if I keep working on the thing
<Forecaster>
I'll try tomorrow if I keep working on the thingL341[15:42:40] <payonel> :P
L342[15:42:47] <Forecaster>
I'm not the one typing
<Forecaster>
I'm not the one typingL343[15:42:47] <Zerray> yeah but we run
115 atm so the question was it it the mod itself or the server
:D
L344[15:42:50] <ben_mkiv> assembler doesnt
use openos, does ist?
L345[15:42:51] <Forecaster>
so no, it's not
<Forecaster>
so no, it's notL346[15:43:09] <payonel> ben_mkiv:
no...but .... i ... stupid 115
L347[15:43:22] <payonel> people shouldn't
be using it
L348[15:43:25] <ben_mkiv> xD
L349[15:43:33] <ben_mkiv> i guess we are
going both for 116 after this test^^
L350[15:43:40] <payonel> yes please
L351[15:44:21] <Forecaster>
the fault lies with whoever refuses to use the proper syntax
<Forecaster>
the fault lies with whoever refuses to use the proper syntaxL352[15:44:30] <ben_mkiv> Zerray, also
crafted fine with the 115dev
L353[15:44:35] <payonel> @fore[tab][tab]
<- doesn't autocompelte
L354[15:44:38] <payonel> complete*
L355[15:44:44] <ben_mkiv> but i'm playing
in singleplayermode, so no sponge involved
L356[15:44:55] <Zerray> we using mp
L357[15:44:57] <Zerray> :<
L358[15:44:57] <Forecaster>
not my fault you use an inferior client then
<Forecaster>
not my fault you use an inferior client thenL359[15:45:00] <ben_mkiv> with
sponge?
L360[15:45:04] <Forecaster>
I've made mine do that
<Forecaster>
I've made mine do thatL361[15:45:08] <payonel> :)
L362[15:46:01] <Zerray> well Iam updateing
to 116 and test it again
L363[15:46:07] <Forecaster>
all I needed was a plugin that already existed
<Forecaster>
all I needed was a plugin that already existedL364[15:46:20] <payonel> 116 should only
affect openos
L365[15:46:42] <Zerray> hm, we crafted 4
robots all disapear
L366[15:48:46] <payonel> @Forecaster: just
calling a script from .shrc that does a print did not cause
problems for me
L367[15:48:47] <payonel> o wait
L368[15:48:51] <payonel> you're on ...
1.6.6 or something
L369[15:48:52] <payonel> yes?
L370[15:48:56] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL371[15:49:55] <payonel> @Forecaster:
yep
L372[15:49:57] <payonel> that was a known
bug
L373[15:50:02] <payonel> fixed in later
builds
L374[15:50:07] <Forecaster>
okay :P
<Forecaster>
okay :PL375[15:50:25] <ben_mkiv> Zerray, going to
try with sponge on multiplayer now
L376[15:50:42] <Zerray> well our whole
server is fucked now ^^
L377[15:50:45] <ben_mkiv> but this may
take 10mins until i got some result, the pack needs time to
load
L378[15:50:45] <payonel> @Forecaster what
mc are you on?
L379[15:50:52] <Forecaster>
1.10
<Forecaster>
1.10L380[15:50:54] <ben_mkiv> oh well
L381[15:50:54] <Zerray> it doesnt boot
anymore cause of mekanism multipart
L382[15:51:00] <Zerray> wtf
L383[15:51:16] <ben_mkiv> partly updated
mekanism?
L384[15:51:47] <Zerray> yeah 2 days
ago
L385[15:52:07] <ben_mkiv> get sure you got
same version of main/tools/generators
L386[15:52:18] <Zerray> yeah i got the
same version it worked
L387[15:52:32] <Zerray> its the boiler
casing i gues
L388[15:52:40] <Zerray> mate build
18x18x18 thermo boiler
L389[15:52:43] <Zerray> now the server
wont boot :()
L390[15:53:05] <ben_mkiv> yea, bad thing
to build multiblocks across chunkborders
L391[15:53:14] <ben_mkiv> allways a risk
to break stuff
L392[15:54:16] <Zerray> what is the best
way to edit the world file?
L393[15:54:34] <Zerray> I gues need to
disamble the multiblock ?
L394[15:54:36] <payonel> i use
mcedit
L395[15:54:36] <Zerray> xdd
L396[15:56:55] <ben_mkiv> does mcedit work
fine with modded stuff without corrupting the region files?
L397[15:57:11] <payonel> i've not had a
problem
L398[15:57:20] <payonel> i've used mcedit
to remove crap/broken blocks
L399[15:58:42] <ben_mkiv> zerray, also
worked on multiplayer sponge server
L400[15:58:50] <ben_mkiv> for the
robot^
L401[15:58:58] <Zerray> nice
L402[16:02:05] <Zerray> Textures too large
for maximum texture size any sugesttions?
L403[16:02:23] <Zerray> I have to open the
level.dat right?
L404[16:02:31] <ben_mkiv> nope
L405[16:02:36] <ben_mkiv> you want to
figure out the location
L406[16:02:47] <ben_mkiv> https://dinnerbone.com/minecraft/tools/coordinates/
L407[16:02:51] <ben_mkiv> there you can
figure out the region file
L408[16:04:53] <Zerray> ok and then?
L409[16:05:22] <Zerray>
UnknownFormatError: Cannot detect type of file
C:/Users/Server/Desktop/MC-Premium/World1/region/r.0.9.mca.
L410[16:05:59] <ben_mkiv> sorry i was
wrong, you need the level.dat, too
L411[16:06:03] <ben_mkiv> as it contains
block informations
L412[16:06:35] <Zerray> ben do you got
teamviewer iam to dump.. literally
L413[16:06:39] <ben_mkiv> but you only
have to replace said regionfile later
L414[16:07:01] <ben_mkiv> i wouldnt be
much of a help
L415[16:07:07] <ben_mkiv> last time i used
mcedit was years ago with vanilla
L416[16:07:18] <Zerray> Iam not even able
to open the world file
L417[16:07:20] <Zerray> :(
L418[16:08:30] <Zerray> now it says my
graphic driver is to old iam gona kill myself
L419[16:08:34] <ben_mkiv> xD
L420[16:09:39] <S3> 1 2 + . 5 ok
L421[16:09:45] <gamax92> uhh
L422[16:09:48] <gamax92> excuse me that is
not right
L423[16:10:16] <S3> Apparently it is
now
L424[16:10:26] <gamax92> 1 2 + . is 3
:|
L425[16:10:44] <ben_mkiv> Zerray, maybe
new mekanism needs upgraded MCMultiPart mod?
L426[16:10:55] <S3> gamax92: not according
to this interpreter!
L427[16:11:00] <Zerray> maybe... I
installed my gtx980 in the server now
L428[16:11:03] <Zerray> xDDD
L429[16:11:04] <gamax92> Well your
interpreter is wrong!
L430[16:11:10] <S3> how is it wrong
L431[16:11:10] <ben_mkiv> xD
L432[16:11:12] <S3> I will scroll up
L433[16:11:15] <S3> : 2 4 ;
L434[16:11:33] <Zerray> can you link me
the latest version from mc multi part?
L435[16:11:40] <gamax92> Zerray: ECKS
DEEE
L436[16:11:49] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/mcmultipart/files/2381408
L437[16:11:52] <ben_mkiv> thats for
1.10.2
L438[16:11:55] <ben_mkiv> running the same
on my server
L439[16:12:04] <S3> I'm thinking about
writing a PROPER Forth for OC. I wonder if anyone would use
it
L440[16:12:12] <gamax92> I'd use it
L441[16:12:16] <Zerray> got the same @
ben
L442[16:12:25] <S3> like I've dinked
around with my own stuff but I'm starting to actually learn its
internals
L443[16:12:28] <ben_mkiv> well, was worth
to check
L444[16:12:32] <S3> and some of the ANS
forth stuff isn't bad
L445[16:12:56] <S3> gamax92: I realized
that I've been doing it wrong :D
L446[16:13:11] <S3> : should not be a
builtin.., : in a real forth is pure forth.
L447[16:13:41] <Zerray> mekanism is so
broken fucking hell
L448[16:13:43] <S3> I shouldn't have to
parse depending on : and ; and crap, because ; is also a word
L449[16:14:17] <S3> : ; POSTPONE EXIT
REVEAL POSTPONE [ ; IMMEDIATE
L450[16:14:34] <gamax92> dup
L451[16:14:38] <S3> heh
L452[16:14:41] <S3> that's what ; does
^
L453[16:14:45] <ben_mkiv> well people
allways rant about the code, but noone seems to want to fix
it
L454[16:14:51] <ben_mkiv> still its one of
my favorite mods
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L456[16:15:29] <Zerray> its a nice mod
yeah..
L457[16:15:42] <Zerray> OpenGL 1.3 or
greater is required, what now guys?
L458[16:16:10] <ben_mkiv> now =>
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Table-Flip-Guy.jpg
L459[16:16:22] <AmandaC> %flip
L460[16:16:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
(╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L461[16:16:27] <gamax92> %flip
AmandaC
L462[16:16:28] <MichiBot> gamax92:
(╯°□°）╯Ɔɐpuɐɯ∀
L463[16:16:30] <AmandaC> D:
L464[16:16:37] <gamax92> >:D
L465[16:16:50] <Zerray> so the 980 doesnt
suport OpenGL 1.3 , need to buy a titan x for mc edit?
L466[16:16:58] <S3> I am trying to find
where : is defined..
L467[16:17:02] <S3> it's just a forth
word
L468[16:17:07] <S3> and that is simple
too
L469[16:17:08] *
AmandaC walks around the ceiling, looking for Inari, who suddenly
flew into the sky on her.
L470[16:17:10] <gamax92> the 980 supports
OpenGL 4.5 or so
L471[16:17:14] <ben_mkiv> what OS are you
on about that error? xD
L472[16:17:19] <Zerray> windows 10
L473[16:17:27] <gamax92> go install your
nvidia drivers then
L474[16:17:28] <Zerray> its says open gl
1.1 installed
L475[16:17:31] <Zerray> I did
L476[16:17:54] <S3> gamax92: Somebody told
me there's a new replacement for OenGL / DirectX coming out
L477[16:18:01] <ben_mkiv> vulkan^
L478[16:18:04] <S3> I don't know much
about it, I think it s- yes
L479[16:18:13] <S3> know much about
it?
L480[16:18:19] <ben_mkiv> no
L481[16:18:22] <S3> There is ONE thing I
want to see in vulkan
L482[16:18:26] <gamax92> Zerray: then
reinstall them, cause practically any craphics chip from the past
decade supports atleast OpenGL 1.4
L483[16:18:32] <gamax92> S3: Vulkan isn't
new
L484[16:18:41] <S3> I want to see graphics
card independent DMA / etc requirements
L485[16:18:47] <ben_mkiv> afaik some ati
cards allready support vulkan
L486[16:18:50] <ben_mkiv> ati/amd
L487[16:19:08] <S3> so that you didn't
need weird fucking proprietary drivers to do hardware accelerated
shit
L488[16:19:14] <Zerray> maybe Remote
Desktop is the issue about open gl?
L489[16:19:17] <S3> that's what I wanna
see
L490[16:19:20] <gamax92> probably
L491[16:19:26] <gamax92> the nvidia
drivers I have atm also expose vulkan support
L492[16:19:35] <ben_mkiv> zerray yea that
may be the issue
L493[16:19:42] <S3> yeah I heard vulkan
has been around for a while
L494[16:19:53] <S3> but I dunno what
benefits it really poses over OpenGL
L495[16:20:53] <gamax92> it's more low
level than OpenGL
L496[16:21:00] <ben_mkiv> less overhead
=> more fps
L497[16:21:20] <S3> Interesting
L498[16:21:38] <S3> could you run OpenGL
on top of it?
L499[16:21:47] <S3> like is it more of a
GPU microcode spec?
L500[16:21:54] <gamax92> you ... probably
could
L501[16:22:15] <ben_mkiv> as many games
added vulkan support later, i guess theres some kind of
wrapper
L502[16:22:17] <gamax92> There's an effort
atm to implement DirectX 9 on top of Vulkan, VK9
L503[16:22:43] <gamax92> glsl to spir-v is
also a thing iirc
L504[16:22:48] <ben_mkiv> oh directx on
top of vulkan would probably be nice for the linux wine project
:D
L505[16:23:06] <gamax92> they've got
gallium nine atm though
L506[16:24:35] <gamax92> a gallium 10/11
state tracker was worked on for a little bit before eventually
being nuked from mesa
L507[16:24:59] <gamax92> more than 4 years
ago
L508[16:25:43] <ben_mkiv> haven't used
wine for a while, as blizzard closed my account without any reason.
and well steam stuff runs wine native now :>
L509[16:26:01] <ben_mkiv> runs
fine^^
L510[16:26:02] <ben_mkiv> xD
L511[16:26:43] <gamax92> there's quite a
few d3d10/11 things working in wine
L512[16:27:37] <ben_mkiv> @S3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3_Trio#/media/File:S3_Trio_3D-2X_On_Board_86C368.png
L513[16:27:45] <ben_mkiv> even got
VOLCANO
L514[16:27:47] <ben_mkiv> :D
L515[16:28:33] <S3> hi
L516[16:28:38] <S3> ...
L517[16:28:40] <S3> that was not me
L518[16:30:23] <gamax92> ben_mkiv: GTA V,
Witcher 3, WoW in DX11 mode, Overwatch all run in wine-staging,
albeit with various graphical issues and performance issues
L519[16:35:47] <S3> if I make a forth for
OC, it should be a library
L520[16:35:54] <S3> you can make a REPL
out of the library
L521[16:36:12] <S3> that way it could be
embedded ANYWHERE
L522[16:36:48] <S3> I could make an OS
with it if I wanted simply by including the library and writing a 3
liner REPL
L523[16:36:50] <Zerray> the issue was
remote desktop
L524[16:37:34] <Skye> I have a GPU from
2010 and it doesn't support vulkan
L525[16:40:39] <gamax92> This one is
2012
L526[16:41:40] <ben_mkiv> sounds good
gamax, but i'm not going to buy games anymore
L527[16:41:48] <ben_mkiv> as i cant even
play my sc2 anymore as account was closed 2nd time
L528[16:41:53] <ben_mkiv> they are fucked
up at blizzard
L529[16:42:21] <Inari> What did you do
:D
L530[16:42:25] <gamax92> ^
L531[16:43:03] <ben_mkiv> no idea, but can
only recover it by either sending them my personal id which is
bullshit
L532[16:43:39] <ben_mkiv> or by
registering the domain i've had my old emailadress on
L533[16:43:49] <Inari> ?.?
L534[16:44:01] <ben_mkiv> i had like
mail@ben_mkiv.com
L535[16:44:03] <gamax92> I mean ... yeah
this is nothing on blizzard
L536[16:44:06] <ben_mkiv> but dont own the
domain anymore
L537[16:44:17] *
AmandaC is reminded of http://i.4cdn.org/v/1503950249884.jpg
L538[16:44:29] <ben_mkiv> yea gamax but i
wasnt able to change email adress after account recovery
L539[16:44:44] <Inari> Yeah
L540[16:44:47] <Inari> It's called
security
L541[16:44:48] <ben_mkiv> support worker
asked for my answer of the secret question
L542[16:45:00] <ben_mkiv> told him some
things, then said "well you did input just random
stuff"
L543[16:45:03] <ben_mkiv> well fuck you
support
L544[16:46:45] <Inari> Surel you wouldn't
want them to hand your account over to some random guy that
calls
L545[16:47:01] <ben_mkiv> they would
L546[16:47:06] <ben_mkiv> as long as he
sends them some ID xD
L547[16:47:34] <Inari> Presumably the ID
has to match your info on the account
L548[16:47:55] <ben_mkiv> they want to
make security for me
L549[16:47:57] <ben_mkiv> and fuck it
up
L550[16:48:02] <ben_mkiv> what should i
say about that?! xD
L551[16:48:13] <Inari> You screwed it
up
L552[16:48:16] <Inari> But losing your
email
L553[16:48:19] <ben_mkiv> what did i
wrong?
L554[16:48:19] <Inari> And the refusing to
cooperate
L555[16:49:16] <ben_mkiv> i told the
support worker that anyone can register the domain to retrieve the
account
L556[16:49:20] <ben_mkiv> they dont
cared
L557[16:49:50] <ben_mkiv> thats not how
security works
L558[16:49:50] <Inari> So send them your
ID to get the email changed
L559[16:49:56] <Inari> Yes it is
L560[16:50:29] <ben_mkiv> i can live
without blizzard, and they can live without me, so its fine
L561[16:50:35] <Inari> Sure
L562[16:50:40] <Inari> But then don't say
Blizz screwed up :P
L563[16:50:59] <ben_mkiv> they could also
ask for a picture of the key on the original case of the game
L564[16:51:04] <ben_mkiv> which would also
proof me as owner
L565[16:51:36] <Inari> more
questionable
L566[16:51:44] <Forecaster>
That's like locking a safe then putting the key where anyone can
get it, then blaming the maker of the safe
<Forecaster>
That's like locking a safe then putting the key where anyone can
get it, then blaming the maker of the safeL567[16:52:04] <ben_mkiv> no
forecaster
L568[16:52:09] <ben_mkiv> they made a
problem out of nothing
L569[16:52:22] <ben_mkiv> also no one
knows if its just related to the unregistered email adress
L570[16:52:27] <gamax92> and you made a
problem worse by losing access to your email
L571[16:52:33] <ben_mkiv> or because i
signed on using weired locations
L572[16:52:54] <ben_mkiv> because i used
mobile internet for a while, which use NAT over citys which are
sometimes 500 miles away
L573[16:53:12] <ben_mkiv> thats the only
thing i could think of as ban reason
L574[16:53:30] <Forecaster>
I was talking specifically about the email thing
<Forecaster>
I was talking specifically about the email thingL575[16:53:36] <Inari> Well for changing
mail it's a normla measure to send a mail to the old mail
L576[16:53:39] <Inari> And have them click
a link
L577[16:53:40] <ben_mkiv> yea, but its not
sure that it was the ban reason
L578[16:53:58] <ben_mkiv> no blizzard
wants answer to the security question
L579[16:53:58] <Inari> Accounts that migth
be compromiseda re usually banned
L580[16:54:07] <ben_mkiv> which in my case
was some random characters
L581[16:54:12] <Inari> Which you answered
wrongly, apparently
L582[16:54:24] <Inari> Because you input
random chars wehn you made them :D
L583[16:54:47] <Inari> To be fiar
L584[16:54:51] <Inari> Security questions
are stupid :P
L585[16:55:01] <ben_mkiv> most of them can
be guessed
L586[16:55:13] <Inari> But you know
they'll be used
L587[16:55:15] <ben_mkiv> or figured out
with little social engineering
L588[16:55:16] <Inari> So fi you put in
random stuff
L589[16:55:18] <Inari> At least note it
down
L590[16:55:23] <Forecaster>
That
<Forecaster>
ThatL591[16:55:31] <ben_mkiv> you think of
them being used for password recovery
L592[16:55:43] <Forecaster>
It's basically a password at that point
<Forecaster>
It's basically a password at that pointL593[16:55:44] <ben_mkiv> but my password
was never leaked. so my security worked fine :P
L594[16:55:57] <Inari> They are often used
at other palces
L595[16:56:00] <Inari> Suspicious logins,
or such
L596[16:56:14] <ben_mkiv> suspicious
account activity was the ban reason^
L597[16:56:20] <ben_mkiv> now that you say
the term :>
L598[16:56:43] <Inari> Yeah, they ban on
odd activity, and then have you verify to unban
L599[16:57:40] <ben_mkiv> well i cant even
logon on battle.net now as my password is to long for the password
field
L600[16:57:49] <ben_mkiv> good job
blizzard
L601[16:57:54] <Inari> Heh
L602[16:58:29] <Forecaster>
I encountered that somewhere
<Forecaster>
I encountered that somewhereL603[16:58:51] <Forecaster>
Where I couldn't enter in an old password because it was too long
now
<Forecaster>
Where I couldn't enter in an old password because it was too long
nowL604[16:59:08] <Forecaster>
But I just did a password recovery and changed it
<Forecaster>
But I just did a password recovery and changed itL605[16:59:17] <Inari> Password length
limits are stupid :<
L606[16:59:25] <Forecaster>
Yeah
<Forecaster>
YeahL607[17:00:01] <Forecaster>
Well, they can at least allow 256 characters
<Forecaster>
Well, they can at least allow 256 charactersL608[17:00:43] <Inari> Or just no
limit
L609[17:00:56] <Forecaster>
That's the max for a varchar field in an SQL db I believe
<Forecaster>
That's the max for a varchar field in an SQL db I believeL610[17:01:29] <Inari> I'd be seriously
worried if they based it on a varchar length
L611[17:02:02] <Forecaster>
I'm not sure letting someone input an unlimited amount of data is a
good idea :P
<Forecaster>
I'm not sure letting someone input an unlimited amount of data is a
good idea :PL612[17:02:31] <Inari> Sure
L613[17:02:34] <Inari> but 256 cahrs isnt'
even 1 kb
L614[17:02:53] <Forecaster>
Plenty for a password
<Forecaster>
Plenty for a passwordL615[17:02:57] <Zerray> gn8 guys
L616[17:03:41] <Inari> For now, yes
L617[17:03:52] <Forecaster>
Good neight?
<Forecaster>
Good neight?L618[17:04:01] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
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L620[17:05:05] <Inari> I still think that
expression orginally comes from German
L621[17:05:13] <Inari> Because Gute
Nacht
L622[17:05:15] <Inari> and 8 = acht
L623[17:05:25] <Forecaster>
All my passwords are 30 characters
<Forecaster>
All my passwords are 30 charactersL624[17:05:45] <Inari> I try to get 50
char ones now
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L626[17:06:46] <ben_mkiv> they limited to
15 chars on battle.net
L627[17:06:50] <Forecaster>
I just arbitrarily went with 30
<Forecaster>
I just arbitrarily went with 30L628[17:06:59] <ben_mkiv> for user
security i guess xD
L629[17:07:15] <ben_mkiv> because the
security system is now orientated about morons
L630[17:07:52] <CompanionCube> could be
worse, could be 'cause their hash function is garbage
L631[17:08:11] <Forecaster>
By the way since passwords are hashed anyway the field length
doesn't matter xD
<Forecaster>
By the way since passwords are hashed anyway the field length
doesn't matter xDL632[17:08:22] <Forecaster>
I just released
<Forecaster>
I just releasedL633[17:08:25] *
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tired from moving the goal post so much.
L634[17:08:32] <Forecaster>
Realised*
<Forecaster>
Realised*L635[17:08:33] <Inari> Exactly
L636[17:08:44] <Inari> So if you base it
on varcahr length it suggests you store playntext
L637[17:08:52] <CompanionCube> Inari: not
entirely
L638[17:09:03] <ben_mkiv> yea forecaster,
its same size in DB for every password
L639[17:09:16] <CompanionCube> Longer
passwords are more computationally intensive to hash, especially
with modern functions
L640[17:09:24] <CompanionCube> there's
also the human/moron factor
L641[17:09:26] <ben_mkiv> thanks AmandaC,
kinda salty about blizzard :D
L642[17:09:41] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: you
shouldn't be, you're completely at fault. :D
L643[17:09:49] <Inari> I'm not sure if
having more than 256 chars matters too if your hash function only
has so many bits
L644[17:09:50] <AmandaC> The water is
poisoned, by the way.
L645[17:09:57] <ben_mkiv> great
L646[17:10:00] <ben_mkiv> *cheers
L647[17:10:34] <Forecaster>
Poisoned with minerals?
<Forecaster>
Poisoned with minerals?L648[17:11:13] <Inari> With fish pee
L649[17:13:14] <AmandaC> %choose manual
labor or watch more
L650[17:13:15] <MichiBot> AmandaC: watch
more
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L652[17:41:23] <Mimiru> Amanda is makin my
pizza \o/
L653[17:42:05] <AmandaC> A-A-Am not!
D:
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L655[17:53:36] <Mattooo> Hi
L656[17:54:38] <Mattooo> I suck at
programming but at least i can use WocChat B) xD
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L659[18:05:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: give up
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L689[21:30:27] <AmandaC> Mimiru: sorry, I
sent the wrong pizza out, mind sending it back?
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L694[22:03:39] <Roachy> Hello folks. New
OC'er here. I joined to ask if a forum admin could please review
and approve my first couple of forum topics (by Roachy, in the
Programing forum).
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L696[22:07:36] <Kodos> Roachy, I'll check
it now
L697[22:07:44] <Roachy> Thanks!
L698[22:11:21] <Kodos> Roachy, you'll have
to wait. There's an issue with the forums atm. I'll get to it as
soon as I can though
L699[22:11:44] <Roachy> Alright. Thank
you.
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L704[22:33:33] <payonel> Roachy: o/
L705[22:34:33] <Kodos> Who do I have to
slap to get the forum 2FA Security questions fixed
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L710[22:45:43] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a
"business closed" sign for a cursed spring
L711[22:45:44] *
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