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L1[00:23:57] <payonel> fingercomp: hey
L2[00:24:12] <fingercomp> ?
L3[00:24:50] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2302
L4[00:25:01] <payonel> read my last comment, you said it repros for you on 1.7.10
L5[00:25:08] <payonel> i've been testing, it doesn't repro for me in 1.7.10
L6[00:25:47] <fingercomp> ah
L7[00:25:56] <payonel> it DOES repro in 1.10.2
L8[00:28:42] <fingercomp> well, when I posted that comment, I could repro the issue on both 1.7.10 and 1.10.2
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L14[00:44:39] <payonel> weird, it just repro'd in 1.7.10
L15[00:44:46] <payonel> WELL nevermind
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L17[01:01:08] <gamax92> payonel: hey
L18[01:01:32] <gamax92> Izaya: what was that modem issue you had with ocemu?
L19[01:06:03] <Izaya> gamax92: the local modem address in events is the computer address rather than the modem address
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L21[01:52:38] <payonel> i thought i fixed that ...
L22[01:52:42] <payonel> sorry Izaya
L23[01:52:58] <Izaya> I may be using an old build
L24[01:53:01] <Izaya> I'll do a git pull
L25[01:53:41] <Izaya> it managed to crash my copper daemon because it would try to only send on the right local modem address and it returned the computer address and computer components do not have a send() function
L26[01:55:04] <payonel> :)
L27[01:57:34] <Izaya> so now it disables the LKR cache if the OCEmu component is present
L28[02:01:52] <Izaya> Already up-to-date
L29[02:03:12] <Izaya> yeah still broken
L30[02:03:14] <Izaya> \o/
L31[02:03:53] <payonel> Izaya: src/component/modem.lua line 359, change to modem_host.id = component.list("modem",true)()
L32[02:03:57] <payonel> let me know if that works
L33[02:04:22] <payonel> the comment on 357 is also wrong, should be "modem address ..."
L34[02:05:22] <Izaya> I didn't have vim installed on the debian VM, fun...
L35[02:06:43] <Izaya> that appears to have broken stuff more
L36[02:06:49] <payonel> \o/
L37[02:06:50] <payonel> ok
L38[02:07:07] * Izaya shrugs
L39[02:07:45] <Izaya> payonel: https://a.pomf.cat/ouesle.webm have you seen this btw?
L40[02:09:47] <payonel> i had not. very cryptic, very cool
L41[02:10:01] <Izaya> you gonna be at BTM?
L42[02:10:09] <payonel> yeah
L43[02:10:12] <Izaya> shiny
L44[02:10:23] <Izaya> I'll have something set up so people can poke at it
L45[02:10:31] <payonel> i'm also meeting that guy that made OC in a couple weeks
L46[02:10:50] <Izaya> that guy that made OC
L47[02:10:54] <Izaya> the one that sounds like a sandwich?
L48[02:11:02] <Izaya> :P
L49[02:11:15] <payonel> haha, what sandwich?
L50[02:12:10] <Izaya> slang word for sandwich here is something that sounds more or less like "sangar" not sure if it's spelled with an a or an e though
L51[02:13:35] <Skye> Nom
L52[02:13:48] <payonel> never heard of that
L53[02:14:15] <Izaya> I guess it's pronounced "sangah" actually
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L55[02:26:08] <payonel> Izaya: i haven't tested it, but i've read the code more carefully
L56[02:26:45] <payonel> but that modem_host.id change SHOULD have worked
L57[02:27:09] <payonel> unless component.list("modem",true)() isn't returning the modem guid
L58[02:27:22] <Izaya> ocemu ceased to display anything after I did that
L59[02:27:30] <payonel> what did the log say?
L60[02:27:38] <Izaya> everything was going on in the background
L61[02:27:45] <Izaya> but the display wasn't updating
L62[02:27:56] <payonel> you're running two ocemu instances?
L63[02:28:15] <Izaya> know how stuff would freeze on windows and then you could drag stuff around and it would display a trail?
L64[02:28:23] <Izaya> yeah can't do network testing with one
L65[02:28:34] <payonel> do the machines have different modem ids?
L66[02:29:04] <Izaya> I would hope so.
L67[02:29:26] <payonel> just check
L68[02:29:36] <payonel> =component.list("modem")()
L69[02:29:54] <Izaya> can't
L70[02:30:05] <payonel> >_>
L71[02:30:23] <Izaya> because y'know
L72[02:30:26] <Izaya> no display?
L73[02:30:28] <Izaya> :P
L74[02:31:21] <payonel> without my dumb "fix"
L75[02:31:24] <payonel> when things are working
L76[02:31:30] <payonel> "working"
L77[02:31:57] <Izaya> :P
L78[02:33:40] <Izaya> oh
L79[02:33:45] <Izaya> old ocemu processes weren't dying
L80[02:33:46] <Izaya> never mind
L81[02:34:51] <Izaya> works
L82[02:36:11] <payonel> ok good
L83[02:37:37] <Izaya> LKR cache dropping also works which is nice
L84[02:37:55] <Izaya> wasn't sure whether it worked properly
L85[02:43:32] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/CCHkxm2.png muahaha
L86[02:44:01] <Izaya> entries are kept in the LKR cache for 16 seconds until dropped. time is configurable.
L87[02:50:47] <payonel> Izaya: i like that youre developing deep into an area that is comparatively cheap in your os space
L88[02:51:54] <payonel> i try to keep as much of openos' io as "true" as i can, but there is quite a lot of historical api and existing scripts against openos that hinders me
L89[02:52:13] <payonel> also - i try to keep the system doing a lot while doing very little
L90[02:52:29] <payonel> anyways, it's a lot of work to normalize the io given this context
L91[03:06:26] <Izaya> payonel: I'm lucky in that I can break everything and nobody uses my stuff anyway so it doesn't matter
L92[03:07:09] <payonel> yeah, and i'm trying to say i'm glad that you do (break it)
L93[03:07:12] <payonel> to make it better
L94[03:07:33] <Izaya> not worrying about backwards compat is nice
L95[03:07:59] <Izaya> eventually I'll have to choose a proper API and stick with it
L96[03:08:06] <Izaya> I have a lot of it written up now which is nice
L97[03:10:01] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/PsychOS/
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L102[03:46:00] <Skye> Izaya, does it work enough to drop packets soon enough to allow retransmission if the network layout changes?
L103[03:46:51] <Saphire> Izaya: hmm, any way to look for RSS feeds on any of yoru devices?
L104[03:47:45] <Izaya> Saphire: uh?
L105[03:48:04] <Izaya> Skye: hopefully it lasts long enough for you to get a better route
L106[03:49:38] * Saphire shrugs
L107[03:49:51] <Saphire> Just wondering if there are any good RSS things to use
L108[03:49:58] <Izaya> Saphire: I use SpaRSS on my phone
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L110[03:50:11] <Saphire> What about desktop/
L111[03:52:01] <Izaya> Saphire: I don't really use it on RSS
L112[03:52:37] <Izaya> uh
L113[03:52:40] <Izaya> I don't really use RSS on it
L114[03:52:44] <Saphire> Oh, hmm
L115[03:52:56] <Izaya> Thunderbird can do it but thunderbird kinda sucks
L116[04:12:46] <Inari> Sometimes stuff is ridiculous :D
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L118[04:16:26] <Forecaster> I use Feedly
L119[04:16:38] <Forecaster> Its online though
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L123[04:35:44] <Inari> Cruor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBuRyOInP4k :3
L124[04:35:44] <MichiBot> Tsurezure Children Episode 1 Part 3 - Masafumi Akagi/Ryouko Kaji Takase English Sub | length: 2m 41s | Likes: 571 Dislikes: 11 Views: 56,668 | by Yashas H.r. | Published On 4/7/2017
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L126[05:11:22] <20kdc> that thumbnail
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L128[05:24:55] <Saphire> Izaya: o..o https://wtfjs.com/
L129[05:28:14] <Izaya> Saphire: I like this site.
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L136[06:15:21] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJMqdqLXUAEDiJD.jpg:large cute *-*
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L143[06:45:25] <Inari> Fox News has a disappointingly low amount on news pertaining foxes
L144[06:45:41] <Inari> *of news
L145[06:47:26] <Izaya> s/pertaining foxes//
L146[06:47:27] <MichiBot> <Inari> Fox News has a disappointingly low amount on news
L147[06:48:17] <Inari> :P
L148[06:48:37] <Mimiru> s/o/au/
L149[06:48:37] <MichiBot> <Inari> Faux News has a disappointingly low amount on news
L150[06:48:57] <Izaya> :3
L151[06:52:22] <Inari> s/o/au/g
L152[06:52:23] <MichiBot> <Inari> Faux News has a disappauintingly lauw amauunt aun news
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L155[07:21:13] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/105319361538981888/355692147971850242/scr_13.png
L156[07:21:15] <Inari> "Husky"
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L158[07:49:01] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJM_ENxUwAAntaF.jpg:large cute
L159[07:51:42] <Izaya> not bad
L160[07:54:56] <Vindex> What's up with kitten ears
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L162[08:12:20] <ds84182> its a trap!
L163[08:13:03] <ds84182> you might think that is a cute cat girl, but don't be fooled so easily
L164[08:13:12] <ds84182> that is actually a cute minotaur girl
L165[08:18:38] <Izaya> I don't4 see an issue
L166[08:18:43] <Izaya> as long as it's actually a girl
L167[08:19:58] <AmandaC> It's only a girl when it gets cold water poured on it.
L168[08:21:01] <Inari> Izaya: I don't see the issue even if it isn't, still looks like one to me XD
L169[08:21:13] <Inari> Vindex: Whats your question? She has kittne ears cause seh's a catgirl
L170[08:21:19] <Inari> And she's a catgirl cause its cute
L171[08:24:50] <Vindex> Inari: that's just common anime theme I don't get
L172[08:26:22] <Inari> It's cute :D
L173[08:26:50] <Inari> I'd love having fox ears for that matter :f
L174[08:30:24] <Temia> Moooo. =o=
L175[08:30:35] <Inari> It's a moo!
L176[08:30:39] <Inari> Almost a mmo, but not quite
L177[08:31:53] * Temia flops against Inari. =.= groggy.
L178[08:32:25] <Inari> %pet Temia
L179[08:32:26] * MichiBot pets Temia with a big pile of meh. Temia recovers 4 health!
L180[08:32:34] <Inari> Temia: You clearly need the Asuna wake up app
L181[08:33:03] <Temia> The wha? =.=
L182[08:33:28] <Inari> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA4qG53ZXWAhVInBoKHWY7C24QFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.mezamane.asuna%26hl%3Den&usg=AFQjCNENvn2LUyilM_pzY1RrqfBj-07q-Q
L183[08:34:04] <Temia> o.o
L184[08:34:07] <Temia> I see.
L185[08:34:58] <Inari> It's amusing
L186[08:35:22] <Inari> Doubt I'll use it but eh. You can ask her about oppai/pantsu and she'll go "H-hey! <angry look>"
L187[08:35:33] <Temia> It's something, alright >.>
L188[08:36:07] <Temia> (I'd rather have a Papalymo wakeup app)
L189[08:36:07] * Temia ducks
L190[08:36:57] * AmandaC jumps up onto Temia's shoulder while she's ducking, looks around the channel
L191[08:36:58] <Inari> Vindex: :3 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJNMzE7WAAAHZHx.jpg:large
L192[08:37:14] * Temia eeps o-o she's been catted
L193[08:37:20] <Inari> Temia: Heh
L194[08:37:28] <Inari> That miqo'te was cuter
L195[08:37:32] <Inari> What was her name again
L196[08:37:34] * AmandaC jumps down, into Inari's lap, yawns
L197[08:37:34] <Temia> Y'shtola?
L198[08:37:35] <Inari> Poeh...soething
L199[08:37:58] <Temia> ... .-. Khloe Aliapoh?
L200[08:38:07] <Inari> Yeah that
L201[08:38:52] <Temia> Well yes but they don't make these apps for people who have a motherly streak iykwim.
L202[08:39:08] <Inari> motherly streak?
L203[08:39:57] <Temia> I find Khloe cute because I want to adopt her and dote on her as a mother ;.;
L204[08:40:03] <Inari> Ah :P
L205[08:42:15] <Temia> Plus a Papalymo wakeup app would be fun. He'd wake you up with the same exasperation and force necessary to rouse even the most ornery of highlanders =w=
L206[08:42:40] <Inari> Ah rigth Lalafel or so it was
L207[08:43:05] * Inari read 'falafel' earlier and thought it sounded like that FF14 race but couldn't recall it's name
L208[08:43:26] <Temia> Extra points if the app uses sensors to detect if the phone's been hugged while half-asleep and have him react accordingly
L209[08:43:35] <Inari> xD
L210[08:43:53] <Inari> You sure you don't want a life-size papalymo doll? :P
L211[08:44:14] <Temia> Pretty certain.
L212[08:44:21] <Inari> :p
L213[08:44:54] <Temia> I just find the mental image cute.
L214[08:46:18] <AmandaC> %choose podcasts or yappa paa
L215[08:46:19] <MichiBot> AmandaC: podcasts
L216[08:48:35] <Michiyo> Papalymo... :(
L217[08:49:28] <Temia> ;_;
L218[08:49:43] * Temia hugs Michi and cries
L219[08:52:22] <AmandaC> Who's ready for another Pro Tips from Amanda: Make sure the bluetooth dongle you have plugged into the TV is actually on before restarting your Chromecast session, phone, etc.
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L229[08:52:42] <AmandaC> Whoops, that's what that cable is for.
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L239[08:56:02] <Michiyo> lol
L240[08:57:47] <Temia> That scene from Airplane! just flashed through my head.
L241[08:58:37] <MajGenRelativity> Test
L242[08:58:43] <MGR> Test
L243[08:58:57] <MajGenRelativity> Michiyo, IRC to Discord broke again
L244[09:00:57] <Michiyo> It's REALLY going to break next month, when they deprecate the API it uses..
L245[09:01:24] <Michiyo> not a lot I can do about it right now
L246[09:01:26] <Michiyo> so... IRC it is.
L247[09:01:54] <AmandaC> RIP Discord
L248[09:03:15] <Izaya> [and nothing of value was lost]
L249[09:04:26] <MajGenRelativity> Aw
L250[09:04:32] <MajGenRelativity> Things of value were lost
L251[09:04:53] <MajGenRelativity> Michiyo, you should make Corded intelligent so it can update its own code!
L252[09:04:57] <Vexatos> vel you
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L256[09:11:28] <Tbat> @MGR: out of curiosity why do you favor discord over irc? voice and text at the same place?
L257[09:13:12] <Inari> https://medium.com/@Zemnmez/how-to-hack-the-uk-tax-system-i-guess-3e84b70f8b
L258[09:13:59] <MGR> Tbat, I believe Discord has a better interface, better management features, and it's easier to make it work across devices
L259[09:14:18] <Inari> I just wish Discord had more than one client
L260[09:14:21] <Inari> So I could have a better one
L261[09:14:40] <MGR> I don't have any major issues with the Desktop one
L262[09:15:10] <Tbat> I see MGR, thanks for the answer
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L264[09:15:44] <MGR> No problem
L265[09:15:52] <MGR> PM me if you have any other questions
L266[09:16:40] <Inari> Well the great thing about IRC mostly is that it has about a thousand clients
L267[09:16:44] <Inari> So everyone can find one they like
L268[09:17:15] <Lizzy> it's therotetically possible to create your own discord client
L269[09:17:27] <Izaya> Someone on another network said they read somewhere that Discord is internally IRC with lots of modification
L270[09:17:38] <Izaya> They didn't have sources so I don't trust it but that's an interesting idea
L271[09:18:12] <Lizzy> well, IRC is basically just plain-text
L272[09:18:46] <Tbat> No cli clients for discord I guess?
L273[09:19:08] <Lizzy> none that are known
L274[09:21:16] <ds84182> Discord is not internally IRC.
L275[09:21:42] <ds84182> Discord developers have already talked about their stack extensively in blog posts.
L276[09:22:09] <ds84182> Also Discord doesn't scale well when they're more than 10,000 people in a server
L277[09:22:37] <Izaya> They use their own stuff then?
L278[09:23:31] <AmandaC> Yes, let's modify an IRC server to speak JSON Websockets,instead.
L279[09:23:41] <Inari> No no
L280[09:23:43] <AmandaC> Totally the right design choice
L281[09:23:52] <Inari> Just make a fake connection with the IRC server from some program
L282[09:23:54] <Inari> that takes the IRC output
L283[09:24:01] <Inari> And writes it to the outgonig connection in json
L284[09:24:02] <Inari> :3
L285[09:24:06] <MGR> 10,000 people is a lot of people for one server ?
L286[09:24:17] <Inari> With psychobitch you get 300000
L287[09:24:22] <Izaya> Freenode... survives.
L288[09:24:25] <Izaya> Inari: OTP.
L289[09:24:27] <Izaya> :D
L290[09:24:40] <Inari> :3
L291[09:25:05] <Inari> Izaya: The langauge that even impresses AmandaC
L292[09:25:40] <Vexatos> Tbat, there was once a discord client using curses
L293[09:29:09] <Izaya> I wonder if there's an IRC server in erlang...
L294[09:29:39] <Inari> Probably
L295[09:30:02] <Inari> https://www.google.com/search?q=erlang%20ircd There seem to be a few
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L297[09:30:30] <Inari> Apparenlty IRCCloud uses Erlang?
L298[09:30:37] <Inari> according to https://blog.apokalyptik.com/2010/12/02/erlang-html5-irc-pretty-much-awesome/
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L300[09:31:43] <Inari> Izaya: Erlang++
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L303[09:41:19] <Inari> %pet Temia
L304[09:41:20] * MichiBot brushes Temia with ?️?. Temia recovers 1 health!
L305[09:41:39] <Temia> :o
L306[09:44:15] <ds84182> %pet MichiBot
L307[09:44:16] <MichiBot> ds84182: I'm not going to pet myself in public. It'd be rude.
L308[09:45:18] <Inari> %pet herself
L309[09:45:18] <MichiBot> Inari: I'm not going to pet myself in public. It'd be rude.
L310[09:45:23] *** Inari is now known as herself
L311[09:45:25] <herself> %pet herself
L312[09:45:25] <MichiBot> herself: I'm not going to pet myself in public. It'd be rude.
L313[09:45:26] <herself> :<
L314[09:45:30] *** herself is now known as Inari
L315[09:45:47] <AmandaC> %pet hirself
L316[09:45:48] * MichiBot pets hirself with the eye of Nidhogg. hirself recovers 2 health!, the eye of Nidhogg poofs away in a sparkly cloud.
L317[09:45:54] <Inari> :p
L318[09:47:43] <Temia> ...
L319[09:47:54] * Temia is immensely alarmed now o-o
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L321[09:48:38] <Temia> Giving MichiBot that kind of power was a mistaaaake
L322[09:48:43] <CompanionCube> yo
L323[09:48:48] <CompanionCube> ?
L324[09:48:56] <Temia> <AmandaC> %pet hirself
L325[09:48:56] <Temia> -*- MichiBot pets hirself with the eye of Nidhogg. hirself recovers 2 health!, the eye of Nidhogg poofs away in a sparkly cloud.
L326[09:48:56] <Lizzy> %pet Temia
L327[09:48:57] <MichiBot> Hello Temia
L328[09:48:58] * MichiBot pets hirself with slime poo. hirself recovers 4 health!
L329[09:49:00] * MichiBot pets Temia with a micro-singularity. Temia recovers 7 health!
L330[09:49:13] * Temia aaacks, her hair got caught in it >^<
L331[09:49:30] <Temia> This is vengeance, isn't it? This is the dragon's vengeance against all of mankind!
L332[09:49:37] * Temia untangles her hair from the microsingularity
L333[09:55:46] <S3> .......?
L334[09:56:44] <S3> %pet Corded
L335[09:56:45] * MichiBot pets Corded with 12 tonnes of "sugar". Corded recovers 3 health!
L336[09:57:16] <S3> %pet a friendly little bot called MichiBot
L337[09:57:17] <MichiBot> S3: I'm not going to pet myself in public. It'd be rude.
L338[09:57:20] <S3> lol
L339[09:58:15] <S3> %eat ping
L340[10:00:22] <Inari> %p
L341[10:00:23] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Inari 0.2s
L342[10:00:41] <Tbat> %p
L343[10:00:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Tbat 0.16s
L344[10:01:06] <Tbat> %commands
L345[10:01:16] <Temia> https://twitter.com/sheepswing/status/906084321869553666 have cutes.
L346[10:01:17] <MichiBot> Fri Sep 08 04:18:31 CDT 2017 @kappagoya1: RT @sheepswing: #自キャラが誰かの性癖に刺さってほしい
L347[10:05:25] <Michiyo> Tbat,
L348[10:05:26] <Michiyo> %help
L349[10:05:27] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L350[10:05:27] <Michiyo> :p
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L352[10:06:40] <Tbat> is it written in lua?
L353[10:07:33] <Inari> Lua++
L354[10:07:48] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJNieciW4AErHO8.jpg:large :3
L355[10:08:14] <Michiyo> it, MichiBot?
L356[10:08:14] <Michiyo> no
L357[10:08:35] <Michiyo> %source
L358[10:08:35] <MichiBot> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L359[10:08:48] <Inari> It's a bit disappointing MichiBot isn'ta ctually runningon a OC computer
L360[10:09:42] <Tbat> ^
L361[10:09:54] <Tbat> or a drone
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L367[10:28:57] <MalkContent> oh that'd be fun
L368[10:29:13] * Izaya hmms
L369[10:29:15] <Michiyo> I wrote a quick bot using the ingame IRC client..
L370[10:29:23] <Izaya> I could probably pull off an IRC bot in a drone...
L371[10:29:23] <Michiyo> it didn't do much lol..
L372[10:29:29] <Izaya> I was going to do that at one point, actually.
L373[10:29:34] <Izaya> #oc does drone?
L374[10:29:40] <payonel> LUA
L375[10:29:40] <MichiBot> It's lua, not LUA. Name not an acronym.
L376[10:30:14] <MalkContent> i mean it'd basically be a textadventure for anyone in the chat :D
L377[10:30:29] <MalkContent> scanning an unknown world
L378[10:30:51] <Izaya> I mean I was gonna stream it or something
L379[10:30:53] <MalkContent> punching trees, checking your inventory
L380[10:32:21] <Izaya> drones can't really break blocks
L381[10:38:50] <payonel> %ping
L382[10:38:52] <MichiBot> Ping reply from payonel 0.44s
L383[10:39:25] <Izaya> Michiyo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKf7Oc60fVM
L384[10:39:26] <MichiBot> The Computer Chronicles - Computer Displays (1991) | length: 28m 59s | Likes: 130 Dislikes: 0 Views: 13,311 | by The Computer Chronicles | Published On 26/7/2013
L385[10:39:43] <Izaya> you were getting a new display right? here's a few suggestions /s
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L387[10:46:59] <MalkContent> Just get a creative drone, i guess
L388[10:47:25] <Izaya> still can't break blocks
L389[10:47:34] <MalkContent> mess with the config? :C
L390[10:47:41] <Izaya> still can't break blocks
L391[10:47:43] <MalkContent> crap
L392[10:47:51] <MalkContent> well it can break non-stone
L393[10:47:59] <Izaya> only way you could do that is like
L394[10:48:04] <Izaya> IC2 mining laser
L395[10:48:05] <MalkContent> non-pickaxerequired blocks
L396[10:48:10] <Izaya> can only point downwards
L397[10:48:14] <Izaya> or upwards
L398[10:48:23] <MalkContent> or supply it with tnt
L399[10:48:24] <Izaya> and then you'd have to use the vaccum cleaner to grab the items
L400[10:48:33] <Izaya> and then it only has a 2-high inventory
L401[10:49:01] <MalkContent> can drones get the crafting upgrade?
L402[10:49:14] <Izaya> they can craft but only 2x2 things
L403[10:49:18] <Izaya> or 2x3 I guess
L404[10:49:25] <MalkContent> yea. i think some mod had tiny tnt
L405[10:49:35] <MalkContent> that was only 2x2 crafting
L406[10:51:43] <MalkContent> anyways, punching trees is totally an option
L407[10:53:05] <ben_mkiv> AE2 has tinytnt
L408[10:53:33] <ben_mkiv> and drones can only break soft stuff
L409[10:53:53] <Izaya> man is drones breaking stuff changed from the original version
L410[10:56:06] <MalkContent> i used them as harvesters, they definitely can break melons and IE hemp
L411[10:56:35] <Izaya> huh.
L412[10:56:43] <Izaya> good to know.
L413[10:56:50] <Izaya> That's useful.
L414[10:57:19] <ben_mkiv> i would go for robot to farm trees i guess
L415[10:57:36] <ben_mkiv> they can break anything with the right tool
L416[10:58:35] <MalkContent> plus drones cant plant saplings (i think)
L417[10:58:41] <MalkContent> i dont remember
L418[10:58:46] <MalkContent> o wrong
L419[10:58:51] <MalkContent> i didnt use drones for trees
L420[10:59:13] <MalkContent> because they could get trapped in the leaves writing detection for that was too much of a pita
L421[11:02:53] <Forecaster> http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/2017/09/08/1603-watch-out/
L422[11:05:42] <Tbat> i have replaced my robots with drones for most stuff, soon all
L423[11:06:01] <Tbat> well, cobblegen is hard to do
L424[11:06:07] <Vexatos> robot with pickaxe :D
L425[11:06:12] <Inari> COBOLgen
L426[11:06:52] <Tbat> thats what i have now Vexatos , replace that with a drone, is hard, or impossible. well you could place tnt or something, but not sane.
L427[11:06:54] <Inari> %give MichiBot a VHDL2LLVM2REDSTONE program
L428[11:06:54] * MichiBot accepts the VHDL2LLVM2REDSTONE program and adds it to her inventory
L429[11:08:40] <MalkContent> also i used redstone to detect treegrowth
L430[11:08:48] <MalkContent> and drones cant respond to that on their own
L431[11:08:52] <Inari> \o/
L432[11:08:58] <Inari> Redstone is great fro treegrowth, yeah
L433[11:09:02] <Inari> Unless you have some better device
L434[11:09:20] <Tbat> well, im oldschool and using robot/drone.detect()
L435[11:09:20] <Inari> Like some of those mods where you have a laser-line
L436[11:09:31] <Inari> redstone is more oldschool :p
L437[11:09:35] <Tbat> sure
L438[11:09:42] <Inari> I once built a treefarm that was odd xD
L439[11:10:04] <Tbat> im doing tests with 2x2 jungle trees
L440[11:11:37] <Inari> Oak or birch trees. Using redstone to detect the tree growing. Then it put a mining drill into a ic2 miner, which dug down to harvest the wood, which is pumped into storage. Once it's done the mininn drill is removed, which causes the minin pipes to retract too and be pushed out, they are routed into the thing again, plant new sapling and repeat
L441[11:11:53] <MalkContent> well i got this 4x4 trees setup for redstone and a single robot
L442[11:11:58] <Inari> Also minimize footpritn so you can place water below it to collect saplings
L443[11:12:04] <MalkContent> don't wanna drive the robot to every damn tree
L444[11:12:15] <MalkContent> to detect
L445[11:12:27] <Inari> MalkContent: geolzyer!
L446[11:12:41] <Tbat> use a drone
L447[11:12:52] <Tbat> faster and way more energy efficent
L448[11:13:02] <MalkContent> still gotta drive everywhere
L449[11:13:18] <MalkContent> and eventually it's gonna get stuck in the trees and you gotta write detection for that
L450[11:13:31] <MalkContent> wasn't for me ^^
L451[11:13:48] <Kodos> How big is your tree farm
L452[11:13:49] <Tbat> thats why im testing with a big jungle tree (2x2), enough wood for me
L453[11:14:11] <Tbat> i don't need a lot of wood anymore since i don't use charcoal generators
L454[11:14:24] <MalkContent> would have to do geolyzer detection for that
L455[11:14:28] <MalkContent> also wasn't for me :D
L456[11:14:31] <MalkContent> birch trees all the way
L457[11:14:39] <MalkContent> or spruce
L458[11:14:58] <MalkContent> lemme see if i still have the picture
L459[11:15:30] <Tbat> a big jungle tree gets ya about 1 and a half stack of fresh wood
L460[11:15:42] <Inari> New treefarm idea: keep shooting tnt across the area
L461[11:15:52] <Inari> If there's a tree it collides and explodes the tree
L462[11:15:55] <Inari> if not it flies on
L463[11:16:18] <Inari> MGR: Theres something fro you
L464[11:16:22] <Inari> Make GERT over TNT cannon
L465[11:16:31] <Tbat> well, i guess i have a different philosofy. "the easier the better"
L466[11:16:39] <Tbat> i'm lazy
L467[11:16:41] <MalkContent> how is jungle trees easier
L468[11:16:43] <Inari> Hehe
L469[11:16:48] <MalkContent> with their stupid branches n stuff
L470[11:17:40] <Tbat> because a drone can cover a large area fast and kinda cheap with a solar generator
L471[11:18:10] <Tbat> it doesn't matter if it cover more than needed
L472[11:18:15] <Inari> Hmm
L473[11:18:19] <Inari> A camera could also be used
L474[11:18:36] <Tbat> kinda cheap = kinda free
L475[11:19:33] <Tbat> a robot would need a coal generator and/or charge in between to handle a single big jungle tree, i'm guessing
L476[11:40:09] <Forecaster> "what do you want to install?"
L477[11:40:14] <Forecaster> 1. openos
L478[11:40:14] <Forecaster> 2. robot
L479[11:40:15] <Forecaster> uuuh
L480[11:42:47] <ben_mkiv> 3. beos
L481[11:43:53] <Forecaster> beeOS
L482[11:45:03] <AmandaC> "Not to put to you to work, but I want you to think about it every waking moment while you're in japan"
L483[11:47:24] <MGR> Inari, that's not a terrible idea
L484[11:48:36] <MalkContent> well
L485[11:48:43] <MalkContent> i have redstone tree bot :D
L486[11:48:55] <MalkContent> cheap, reliable, fast enough
L487[11:52:12] <payonel> @forecaster i just noticed that last night
L488[11:52:19] <payonel> i don't do a lot of in-game testing, and less with robots
L489[11:52:25] <Forecaster> :P
L490[11:52:34] <payonel> it is because the robot mounts a pseudo filesystem, magic filesystem
L491[11:52:45] <payonel> and it has files, so install things "oh, would you like to copy these files?"
L492[11:53:21] <payonel> i'm hoping this https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/eaf2b0cf8a6f0dbbfd7a553b5c25dd0cc698f6ba#diff-91c8eeca6b8c1a0b7eac385143420f4a
L493[11:53:23] <payonel> fixes it
L494[11:53:39] <payonel> that should make `install` ignore the robot pseudo filesystem
L495[11:53:54] <payonel> are you on 1.7.10 ?
L496[11:54:03] <Forecaster> this is 1.10
L497[11:54:14] <Forecaster> just noticed it while going to test the power thing
L498[11:54:14] <payonel> ok, i haven't pushed up to 1.10
L499[11:54:34] <payonel> fyi, you can run `install openos` in case you don't care for the options
L500[11:54:42] <payonel> you can even say `yes|install openos`
L501[11:54:44] <Forecaster> and yeah...
L502[11:54:56] <Forecaster> confirmed robots use power when shut down with computer.shutdown()
L503[11:55:17] <payonel> what is the issue # on that?
L504[11:55:21] <payonel> do you have that handy?
L505[11:55:27] <Forecaster> I hadn't made one yet
L506[11:55:34] <Forecaster> I just confirmed that it was an issue
L507[11:56:55] <payonel> confirmed with what though?
L508[11:56:57] <payonel> chatter in irc?
L509[11:57:04] <Forecaster> wut
L510[11:57:07] <Forecaster> no, it's my issue
L511[11:57:13] <payonel> oh ok
L512[11:57:47] <MalkContent> Tbat: https://imgur.com/a/4NFv8 no geolizing necessary :D
L513[11:58:04] <MalkContent> also tileable
L514[11:58:21] <payonel> MalkContent: nice
L515[12:00:05] <MalkContent> ty :)
L516[12:00:18] <Tbat> MalkContent: sweet!
L517[12:01:01] <Tbat> how many hours does it take to setup? ^^
L518[12:01:24] <MalkContent> more than i'd like to admit
L519[12:01:34] <MalkContent> would have been way easier with redstone wires
L520[12:01:52] <Forecaster> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2515
L521[12:02:00] <payonel> thanks forecaster
L522[12:02:03] <MalkContent> also spent some time trying to make IE's redstone connectors work for me, but failed
L523[12:02:35] <payonel> @forecaster: "Power does not seem to be lost mysteriously when you use the power button or the "shutdown" program."
L524[12:02:37] <payonel> what really!?
L525[12:02:56] <payonel> the shutdown program simple call computer.shutdown
L526[12:02:59] <payonel> calls*
L527[12:03:04] <Forecaster> my reactor refuelling program is supposed to shut down the robot if power goes below 50% so it can be started up when more fuel has been inserted, but I came back to find it had shut down at 50% but the battery was completely drained anyway
L528[12:03:23] <Forecaster> yeah, but it doesn't go down after using the "shutdown" program
L529[12:03:37] <Forecaster> only after using computer.shutdown() from the lua prompt and in my program...
L530[12:03:42] <Forecaster> I dunno
L531[12:03:42] <payonel> >_> maybe because the screen is not cleared?
L532[12:04:03] <Forecaster> oh, right :P
L533[12:04:08] <Forecaster> that's probably it yeah
L534[12:04:39] <Forecaster> but I want the last few lines of output so I can tell what happened...
L535[12:05:00] <payonel> well sure, it is a bug
L536[12:05:05] <payonel> it should be allowed
L537[12:05:07] <Vexatos> an OpenOS bug
L538[12:05:15] <payonel> <_<
L539[12:05:23] <Vexatos> yes, the screen does use power as long as text is visible on it
L540[12:05:32] <Vexatos> per character, too
L541[12:06:11] <payonel> but a screen without a machine connected to it continues to show text
L542[12:06:14] <payonel> :)
L543[12:07:16] <Forecaster> I guess I can append my program to clear the screen before shutting down
L544[12:07:28] <Forecaster> which would work around it
L545[12:09:23] <Tbat> actually, I think I will switch to 2x2 Spruce instead, Jungle is so rare.
L546[12:11:04] <Tbat> Spruce seem to give ya more saplings too.
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L549[12:32:13] <Forecaster> does sleep accept fractions?
L550[12:32:43] <payonel> floating point number, yes
L551[12:33:32] <Forecaster> so if I have it sleep for .05 it should sleep for a tick? (ignoring inaccuracy)
L552[12:34:08] <Izaya> in theory
L553[12:34:47] <Vexatos> @Forecaster you can actually sleep(0)
L554[12:34:51] <Vexatos> that would sleep exactly one tick
L555[12:34:56] <Forecaster> oh
L556[12:34:59] <Forecaster> neat
L557[12:35:10] <Vexatos> it would yield exactly once, that is
L558[12:35:16] <Forecaster> but I can't multiply that
L559[12:35:22] <Forecaster> but I can loop it I suppose...
L560[12:35:23] <Vexatos> you can
L561[12:35:26] <Vexatos> it just doesn't do much
L562[12:35:38] <Forecaster> > _ >
L563[12:36:18] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ycgq7wb7
L564[12:36:26] <Forecaster> okay ocdoc, thanks I guess
L565[12:36:38] <Forecaster> http://ocdoc.cil.li/components
L566[12:37:16] <Michiyo> ?
L567[12:37:44] <Forecaster> I was redirected from empty string I guess
L568[12:39:02] <Michiyo> I don't think that's an ocdoc issue.. I clicked your link, and got the same thing
L569[12:39:23] <Michiyo> but I typed it by hand and didn't
L570[12:39:25] <Michiyo> some odd header issue?
L571[12:39:26] <Michiyo> idk
L572[12:40:20] <payonel> ok weird
L573[12:47:19] <gamax92> payonel
L574[12:47:59] <Inari> payomax
L575[12:49:15] *** payonel is now known as notpayo
L576[12:49:21] <gamax92> excuse me?
L577[12:49:25] <notpayo> who?
L578[12:49:30] <Inari> Princess
L579[12:49:38] <gamax92> Inari: :P
L580[12:49:54] * Inari spraybottles gamax92's tongue
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L582[12:50:01] <gamax92> :<
L583[12:50:04] <payonel> gamax92: sup?
L584[12:50:18] <Inari> gamax92: So how's the warm water doing? :P And the net for that matter
L585[12:50:43] <gamax92> I found if I put the phone directly up against the wall in a certain spot the wifi jumps from 55 -> 82
L586[12:51:08] <gamax92> percent, so internet is good atm
L587[12:51:14] <payonel> i was saying the ocdoc link was weird, btw
L588[12:51:24] <gamax92> and I'm saying the modem is broken
L589[12:51:37] <payonel> ocemu's modem?
L590[12:51:45] <gamax92> ya, what change was needed
L591[12:51:46] <payonel> i have the fix, i'll push the PR later
L592[12:51:51] <gamax92> okay
L593[12:51:54] <gamax92> thanks
L594[12:54:18] <payonel> pr made
L595[12:55:31] <gamax92> oh
L596[12:55:36] <gamax92> I wasn't ready for this
L597[12:55:43] <payonel> how so?
L598[12:56:06] <gamax92> uhh wait payonel
L599[12:56:18] <gamax92> components get their address as arguments though
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L601[12:57:21] <payonel> that would make sense, but i don't know your code very, and especially didn't know it then
L602[12:57:21] <payonel> :)
L603[12:57:28] <payonel> but yeah, on line 1 there is address
L604[12:57:30] <payonel> that should be used
L605[12:57:33] <payonel> :)
L606[12:58:00] <payonel> ok, i'll make a different PR
L607[12:58:10] <gamax92> you can just revise the existing one
L608[12:58:16] <gamax92> no need to create a separate PR
L609[12:58:38] <gamax92> you just revert commit and put a new one in and it'll automatically make the PR be for that instead
L610[12:59:47] <AmandaC> good team mates always `git push -f`
L611[13:00:01] <gamax92> lol
L612[13:00:23] <MalkContent> btw, anybody know if this is still an issue? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2151
L613[13:01:29] <MalkContent> i am tempted to see if it still is, but i thought i'd ask before i waste time on that
L614[13:03:02] <Inari> Heh
L615[13:03:03] <Inari> Ghost robots
L616[13:15:21] <Forecaster> hm, with sleep(0) 400mb is transferred...
L617[13:15:32] <Forecaster> that's way too much :|
L618[13:15:45] <Lizzy> you're way too much
L619[13:16:00] <Forecaster> D:
L620[13:16:04] <Forecaster> I'm big boned!
L621[13:16:34] <Inari> That just means you have more bone to chew
L622[13:17:12] <gamax92> Inari: no cannabilism
L623[13:17:41] <Forecaster> sleep(0.05) yielded 600mb...
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L625[13:18:55] <Inari> doing what?
L626[13:19:13] <gamax92> I'm guessing the mb is power of some sort
L627[13:19:29] <Inari> Ah
L628[13:19:32] <Inari> I was thinking megabytes :P
L629[13:19:35] <Inari> But probbaly millibuckets
L630[13:21:23] <Forecaster> getting an acual 1 tick redstone pulse seems incredibly tricky
L631[13:22:02] <Inari> How so?
L632[13:22:15] <ben_mkiv> redstone = true, os.sleep(0.05); redstone = false
L633[13:22:36] <Forecaster> I'm trying to precicely transfer small amounts of fluid using a computer and pipes
L634[13:22:45] <ben_mkiv> i would use a transposer
L635[13:22:55] <gamax92> I would just use looping repeaters
L636[13:23:20] <Forecaster> transposer is the easy and more expensive way
L637[13:23:42] <Forecaster> I have no idea how looping repeaters would help
L638[13:23:57] <gamax92> pulses
L639[13:25:09] <Inari> And how much do those transfer per tick?
L640[13:25:59] <Forecaster> I think the pipes transfer 100mb per tick
L641[13:26:46] <Inari> Hm seems odd you'get get a 4 tick pulse with sleep 0
L642[13:27:22] <MalkContent> maybe enforced minimum redstone delay
L643[13:27:59] <MalkContent> 4 tick is minimum vanilla toggle rate (for torches and repeaters)
L644[13:28:00] <MalkContent> iirc
L645[13:28:37] <Forecaster> yeah, the pipes transfer 100mb/tick according to the docs
L646[13:28:55] <Inari> Have you tested the docs? :D
L647[13:30:10] <Forecaster> I think a viable soluton would be to transfer bunches of 400mb to a common tank accessible by a single transposer
L648[13:30:24] <Forecaster> then when the operation is complete return the leftover fluid to storage
L649[13:30:30] <MalkContent> err. maximum toggle rate.
L650[13:30:34] <MalkContent> minimum delay
L651[13:41:54] <payonel> Inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZC2nWJblhk
L652[13:41:54] <MichiBot> Pallas cat and kitten | length: 2m 18s | Likes: 891 Dislikes: 11 Views: 97,911 | by SCARCE WORLDWIDE | Published On 28/11/2016
L653[13:51:12] <payonel> Inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpVXIH24KzQ
L654[13:51:12] <MichiBot> Ballet Zoom "Cats" | length: 3m 12s | Likes: 2,805 Dislikes: 224 Views: 711,871 | by MrLazarovfan | Published On 27/11/2011
L655[14:02:00] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ydx4qyjg
L656[14:02:01] <Forecaster> orly
L657[14:02:10] <Forecaster> "some items" huh
L658[14:10:16] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJG1YByUwAAMGOt.jpg:large what
L659[14:10:53] <Forecaster> what if you paid per-layer?
L660[14:11:17] <ben_mkiv> but layers are awesome
L661[14:11:28] <Forecaster> I hear onions have layers
L662[14:11:31] <ben_mkiv> https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/patch.png
L663[14:24:46] <vifino> O(∩_∩)O 哈哈~
L664[14:25:06] <vifino> My quadcopter flies! Weeee
L665[14:25:27] <Izaya> do a barrel roll
L666[14:25:35] <Forecaster> okay, one error later my terminal is now red
L667[14:25:36] <Forecaster> kay
L668[14:25:45] <vifino> Izaya: Barrel or aileron roll?
L669[14:25:57] <Izaya> both
L670[14:25:59] <Izaya> at once
L671[14:26:15] <vifino> That's... kinda difficult.
L672[14:26:23] <Izaya> yeah it would be
L673[14:26:45] <Izaya> you'd have to time your barrel rolling to be at the right times during your aileron rolls
L674[14:28:30] <vifino> But yeah, it flies. Right now, I only used it on 3S, 4S tomorrow.
L675[14:28:44] <vifino> Yay for 1/3rd more power!
L676[14:28:48] <Izaya> \o/
L677[14:28:57] <payonel> 35, 45 what?
L678[14:29:03] <payonel> gigawatts?
L679[14:29:06] <vifino> S.
L680[14:29:08] <vifino> Not 5.
L681[14:29:14] <AmandaC> 5 what?
L682[14:29:19] * payonel squints
L683[14:29:23] <vifino> q_q
L684[14:29:27] <payonel> -_-
L685[14:29:36] <vifino> S AS IN SNEK.
L686[14:29:45] <AmandaC> ah, 5 neks, okay.
L687[14:29:53] * AmandaC flees
L688[14:30:02] * vifino stares at AmandaC
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L690[14:30:51] <vifino> Also gonna put down the angle of the camera, 40 degrees is really steep for the little park I have nearby.
L691[14:30:59] <vifino> 30 shall do.
L692[14:31:41] <Forecaster> I wish fs.open was relative to the script by default :|
L693[14:32:12] <vifino> payonel: 3S = 3 cells of a LiPo/LiFePO4 battery or similar.
L694[14:32:24] <vifino> In series, that is.
L695[14:33:02] <vifino> 3S2P would be two sets of 3 cells in series, but in parallel.
L696[14:33:52] <vifino> s/, but//
L697[14:33:52] <MichiBot> <vifino> 3S2P would be two sets of 3 cells in series in parallel.
L698[14:34:01] <vifino> I can english.
L699[14:34:53] <Forecaster> payonel can edit get an overwrite mode?
L700[14:34:56] <vifino> 3S would result in 11.1V going from a 3.7V nominal voltage.
L701[14:35:27] <Forecaster> eg `edit -f file.lua` creates an empty file replacing any existing file with the same name
L702[14:38:22] <Forecaster> payonel also this: http://tinyurl.com/ybrptzna
L703[14:39:21] <payonel> Forecaster: i don't know -- if i ever start modifying /bin/edit i'm just going to replace it. i'll keep that in mind for then
L704[14:40:18] <payonel> forecaster: that does not repro. what openos version?
L705[14:40:35] <Forecaster> how do I get that?
L706[14:41:30] <payonel> either reboot and see the motd telling you
L707[14:41:33] <payonel> or lua>=_OSVERSION
L708[14:41:47] <Forecaster> 1.6.6
L709[14:42:10] <payonel> yeah, fixed in 1.6.7
L710[14:42:15] <Forecaster> k
L711[14:43:04] <payonel> well no
L712[14:43:09] <payonel> i can't even repro that in 1.6.6
L713[14:43:34] <Forecaster> magic then
L714[14:44:32] <payonel> Forecaster: my test is a file containing ONLY `term.write("hello")`
L715[14:44:37] <payonel> is that sufficient for you?
L716[14:44:41] <payonel> still no repro in 1.6.3
L717[14:45:30] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y8osm3xq
L718[14:45:51] <payonel> all the way back to 1.6, no repro
L719[14:45:55] <Forecaster> that's odd
L720[14:45:56] <payonel> checking your link
L721[14:46:06] <payonel> and, didn't repro for you
L722[14:46:11] <payonel> ok, let me know when you have a minimal repro
L723[14:46:59] <Forecaster> the script I'm working on is 29 lines currently
L724[14:47:08] <Forecaster> and is triggering the issue
L725[14:47:13] <Forecaster> is that minimal enough?
L726[14:47:21] <payonel> if you can repro it with NO component deps, that would be great
L727[14:47:28] <payonel> no unusual components
L728[14:47:35] <payonel> [ so i can emulate it ]
L729[14:47:44] <Forecaster> there are no components currently
L730[14:47:51] <Forecaster> just system apis
L731[14:47:57] <Forecaster> eg serialization
L732[14:47:58] <payonel> coo, i'll test that
L733[14:48:13] <Forecaster> https://hastebin.com/ihibigevod.lua
L734[14:48:26] <Forecaster> that triggers it for me
L735[14:48:37] <payonel> btw, `echo -n '' > file.lua` would be a way to truncate the file
L736[14:49:06] <Forecaster> rm file.lua does the same thing essentially :P
L737[14:49:11] <payonel> apparently i need a metals file
L738[14:49:17] <payonel> NOT minimal :P
L739[14:49:33] <Forecaster> just make an empty file called "metals" in /home
L740[14:49:48] <payonel> but my / is ro :P
L741[14:49:54] <payonel> i'll fix your "minimal" test
L742[14:50:04] <Forecaster> I'd have fixed it but okay
L743[14:50:47] <Forecaster> I just want the rm file.lua and edit file.lua baked into the same command :P
L744[14:50:59] <Forecaster> with echo I still need two commands
L745[14:51:05] <payonel> cannot be empty, read returns empty on nil file
L746[14:51:22] <Forecaster> ah
L747[14:51:44] <payonel> should be "{}" probably
L748[14:51:47] <payonel> so pairs() doesn't crash
L749[14:51:53] * payonel throws minimals at forecaster
L750[14:52:12] <gamax92> %b{}
L751[14:52:26] <Forecaster> hm
L752[14:52:40] <Forecaster> commenting out the file read stuff causes it to stop triggering the color thing
L753[14:52:47] <payonel> and
L754[14:52:49] <payonel> t is nil
L755[14:52:51] <payonel> what is t?
L756[14:53:01] <payonel> i don't like your minimal repro, forecaster
L757[14:53:05] <Forecaster> t was term
L758[14:53:30] <Forecaster> apparently the metals thing is required
L759[14:53:38] <Forecaster> so it's still minial to reproduce :P
L760[14:53:47] <Forecaster> minimal
L761[14:53:50] <payonel> doesn't mean i have to like it
L762[14:54:01] <Forecaster> no it does not :P
L763[14:54:25] <Forecaster> not my fault you're testing on a ro system :P
L764[14:54:28] <payonel> ok, so let me see a reasonable metals file i should test with
L765[14:55:16] <Forecaster> this should do https://hastebin.com/numahevoci.pl
L766[14:55:17] <gamax92> payonel: (if%s-)(%b())(%s-)(%b{})
L767[14:55:58] <payonel> sorry, no repro :(
L768[14:56:13] <Forecaster> on 1.6.6?
L769[14:56:15] <payonel> testing on openos 1.6.6
L770[14:56:16] <payonel> yeah
L771[14:56:20] <Forecaster> strange
L772[14:56:24] <payonel> :(
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L774[14:57:56] <Forecaster> https://hastebin.com/adeqekasot.pl
L775[14:58:02] <Forecaster> this is the exact metals file I have
L776[14:58:15] <Forecaster> not that I think that'll work different but still
L777[14:58:31] <payonel> fair, but no red text
L778[14:58:38] <payonel> is this on your mp world?
L779[14:58:46] <Forecaster> no, SP
L780[14:58:54] <Forecaster> flat test
L781[14:59:01] <Forecaster> but with the railcraft pack
L782[14:59:51] <AmandaC> payonel: https://imgur.com/f7hvspM
L783[14:59:55] <AmandaC> Inari: ^
L784[15:00:04] <payonel> AmandaC: tail me about it
L785[15:02:42] <payonel> Forecaster: why was the stack trace completely missing?
L786[15:02:56] <payonel> looks like the error handling crashed
L787[15:02:59] <Forecaster> I dunno
L788[15:03:03] <payonel> are you changing global methods?
L789[15:03:10] <payonel> does it repro if you reboot?
L790[15:03:11] <Forecaster> that's probably why it didn't reset the color
L791[15:03:14] <payonel> do you have a /tmp/event.log ?
L792[15:03:22] <Forecaster> so many questions :P
L793[15:03:28] <payonel> :)
L794[15:03:33] <Forecaster> no, dunno, probably
L795[15:04:16] <payonel> does it repro at all?
L796[15:04:29] <Forecaster> even log says "process library exception handler crashed: attempt to yield across a C-call boundary" five times
L797[15:04:32] <Forecaster> event
L798[15:04:35] <payonel> HA
L799[15:04:40] <payonel> well that sucks
L800[15:04:46] <payonel> i HATE that error
L801[15:05:06] <Forecaster> I've not changed any globals
L802[15:06:13] <Forecaster> seems a reboot fixed it
L803[15:08:33] <Forecaster> damn, the metal caster doesn't allow inserting casts automatically...
L804[15:08:35] <Forecaster> >:
L805[15:10:43] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/QI0iqeN thats still kind of gross *shudders*
L806[15:11:26] <Inari> payonel: hehe, nice palls cat. They can be pretty cute~
L807[15:11:33] <Inari> I've only ever seen the other video where it gets close to the camera
L808[15:12:43] <payonel> Forecaster: you should rm your /tmp/event.log or echo a string into it as a marker so we can see future crashes
L809[15:12:57] <payonel> and then if you ever see that red-text crash again, check it and let me know if you can figure out a repro
L810[15:13:12] <Forecaster> okay
L811[15:13:22] <payonel> it's weird that it printed an error message, and seemed to crash as well
L812[15:13:45] <Inari> payonel: ballet cats is too trippy for me xD
L813[15:14:09] <payonel> Forecaster: anyways ... a repro of that would be quite interesting to me
L814[15:14:16] <payonel> i've said that enough times probably
L815[15:14:21] <payonel> Inari: haha yeah me too
L816[15:20:33] <payonel> Forecaster: are you doing anything with string.format, string.gsub ?
L817[15:20:43] <Forecaster> no
L818[15:20:50] <payonel> or are you using any custom metatables for pairs, ipairs, or call?
L819[15:21:00] <Forecaster> all I've done is what you see in that script
L820[15:21:08] <payonel> before you rebooted
L821[15:21:13] <payonel> not just that script
L822[15:21:20] <payonel> ok, did you have a bad unserialize?
L823[15:21:31] <payonel> at any point, before rebooting, when the error occurred
L824[15:21:35] <Forecaster> that's possible
L825[15:28:30] <payonel> Forecaster: did you ever unserialize the wrong file?
L826[15:29:06] <Forecaster> I may have tried to unserialize it when it wasn't properly formatted at some point
L827[15:29:45] <payonel> but you didn't unserialize executable code?
L828[15:30:28] <Forecaster> I don't think so
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L830[15:34:24] <payonel> well that was fun
L831[15:34:32] <Forecaster> :P
L832[15:36:04] <payonel> if i say [[ math.huge=os.execute ]] in the lua script, and then my metals file is [[ math.huge("sh") ]] then...
L833[15:36:08] <payonel> my emulator just crashes
L834[15:36:19] <payonel> so, cool
L835[15:36:30] <Forecaster> why would you do that :P
L836[15:36:40] <payonel> :) i was trying to get your script to crash in weird ways
L837[15:36:51] <payonel> to see if the stack trace would fail and if the font would stay red
L838[15:37:54] <payonel> math.huge is the only method passed to the code in unserialize
L839[15:38:23] <Forecaster> always fun when you find new ways to break things
L840[15:40:15] <payonel> anyways, i have no idea where the C-boundary failure occurred, but the red font issue should be safer now (in later openos builds)
L841[15:41:13] <payonel> any type of "process handler crashed" is basically me saying "welp! this will take more work to debug"
L842[15:41:40] <Forecaster> how do I check variable type?
L843[15:41:44] <payonel> type
L844[15:41:50] <payonel> %lua return type({})
L845[15:41:50] <MichiBot> table
L846[15:41:57] <payonel> %lua return type(type({}))
L847[15:41:57] <MichiBot> string
L848[15:41:57] <Forecaster> ah
L849[15:42:01] <payonel> tis a string
L850[15:42:08] <payonel> if type(v) == "table" then ... end
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L853[16:21:47] <Forecaster> allright, that's the auto-metal-casting system complete I guess
L854[16:22:02] <Forecaster> was both more and less tricky than I expected
L855[16:22:19] <Kodos> I broke down and started using Thermal Smeltery
L856[16:22:21] <Kodos> So much easier
L857[16:23:04] <Forecaster> looks like something for Tinkers
L858[16:23:08] <Forecaster> I don't use tinkers
L859[16:23:20] <Vexatos> I made a TCon addon
L860[16:23:23] <Vexatos> but I never used it
L861[16:23:28] <Vexatos> nor did I ever use TCon :D
L862[16:23:50] <Vexatos> Tinkers' Gregworks is a pretty good addon though and I know a few mod packs that do use it :I
L863[16:24:01] <payonel> i like iguana tweaks
L864[16:24:09] <payonel> but when i add it, users complain
L865[16:24:12] <Vexatos> TGw has iguanatinkertweaks support :>
L866[16:24:54] <Vexatos> payonel, add gregtech, add TGw, add iguanatweaks, and completely disable the smeltery module from TCon (because TGw is playable without it)
L867[16:24:59] <Vexatos> watch your world burn
L868[16:25:01] <Vexatos> have fun
L869[16:26:44] <Forecaster> this smeltery system is even exactly as easy to expand as I intended
L870[16:27:19] <Forecaster> building this thing on the server is probably going to take the next couple of videos
L871[16:27:59] <Forecaster> still need to put some fail-safes into the program though
L872[16:28:07] <Forecaster> like if it runs out of molten metal
L873[16:30:03] <Forecaster> I wish we had nuclear control so I could have a custom alert sound when it stops for some reason
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L875[16:32:17] <Kodos> Why not use OpenSecurity Alarms
L876[16:33:58] <Forecaster> oh, I didn't know it had alarms
L877[16:34:06] <Michiyo> o_O
L878[16:34:14] <Michiyo> O_o
L879[16:34:43] <Michiyo> you can even add your own .ogg files..
L880[16:34:48] <Forecaster> > - >
L881[16:34:50] <Forecaster> < - <
L882[16:35:04] <Forecaster> I barely remember what I had for breakfast
L883[16:35:12] <Forecaster> I'm not going to remember every block in every mod :P
L884[16:35:26] <Kodos> Maybe but OpenSec is best (addon) mod
L885[16:35:45] <Kodos> OpenSec, OPen Printer, OpenRadio, and Computronics
L886[16:35:51] <Kodos> I refuse to use OC without them
L887[16:35:59] <Kodos> Which is partially why I'm still on 1.7
L888[16:36:23] <Forecaster> eh, security is kind of useless without block protection :P
L889[16:39:40] <Forecaster> I'll probably just have it beep
L890[16:42:01] <Forecaster> and/or boop
L891[16:42:02] <Kodos> There are a few good block protection mods
L892[16:42:25] <Kodos> Plus general permissions mods
L893[16:42:51] <20kdc> my goodness, is Symphony no. 9 LONG...
L894[16:43:07] <Forecaster> I'd want something that requires computers :P
L895[16:43:25] <Forecaster> not commands or weird chunk claiming sutff
L896[16:43:28] <Forecaster> stuff*
L897[16:44:05] <Michiyo> Kodos, all of those have 1.10 versions.. :P
L898[16:44:08] <Michiyo> Oh
L899[16:44:11] <Michiyo> except open radio
L900[16:44:16] <Michiyo> I guess..
L901[16:44:20] <Michiyo> IDK I don't use it :P
L902[16:44:42] <Michiyo> Forecaster, I HAVE Block protection on my list..
L903[16:44:46] <Michiyo> but I'm stupid busy lol
L904[16:46:28] <Kodos> 1.10 is bad though
L905[16:46:33] <Kodos> I'd prefer 1.12
L906[16:46:36] <Kodos> Or at least 1.11
L907[16:46:43] <Kodos> 1.12 has llamas tho
L908[16:47:12] <Michiyo> Write it.
L909[16:47:13] <Michiyo> :p
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L911[16:49:52] <Kodos> Except I won't, but I will stick to a working version =)
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L913[16:51:33] * Michiyo rolls her eyes, pulls something, closes RDP..
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L915[16:52:18] <Kodos> =P
L916[16:52:54] <Kodos> Honestly, I like 1.7. I rarely crash or have issues anymore, but when I do, I still know better than to report it unless it's A) 100% reproducable, and B) game-breakingly bad. If it's minor shit I don't tend to bother
L917[16:56:53] <Forecaster> We have open radio...
L918[16:57:13] <Forecaster> Pretty sure it's 1.10 :P
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L921[16:59:18] <Michiyo> I keep meaning to try OpenRadio... but, I don't minecraft.
L922[17:04:37] <Kodos> I like it for long distance networking
L923[17:04:52] <Kodos> I'd prefer having something like BitNet comm towers, but OR works just as well
L924[17:05:42] <Forecaster> Pretty sure a certain toast was working on radio towers :P
L925[17:07:59] <Vexatos> planning on*
L926[17:08:06] <Kodos> So Soon™ ?
L927[17:08:39] <Vexatos> I... can't really start
L928[17:08:55] <Vexatos> I'd have to put it in OC itself but I can't because I'd have to understand the infrastructure first
L929[17:08:59] <Vexatos> and OC is complicated >_>
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L940[20:06:20] <payonel> Forecaster: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2515#issuecomment-328229755
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L949[22:24:17] <Saphire> https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/10349820-group-together-sub-chat
L950[22:24:17] <Saphire> https://i.imgur.com/15J33tK.png
L951[22:24:17] <Saphire> They made it! (Available only on Canary for now)
L952[22:31:15] <Temia> http://i.imgur.com/rVA4wzE.gifv kitteeeen
L953[22:31:32] * Izaya points at his weechat channel list
L954[22:31:34] <Izaya> Not a new feature.
L955[22:34:09] <gamax92> new for discord
L956[22:36:04] <Saphire> ^
L957[22:37:47] <Izaya> slowly catching up
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