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<Forecaster>
that was one of the things I was going to improve :P
<Forecaster>
that was one of the things I was going to improve :PL7[01:10:21] <Forecaster>
it saw the "hi" in "this"
<Forecaster>
it saw the "hi" in "this"L8[01:12:42] ⇨
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L13[01:38:59] <payonel> o/
L14[02:04:48] *
gamax92 MichiBot MichiBot
L15[02:04:52] <gamax92> darn
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L18[02:17:59] <gamax92> It's so good to
have the old gtk3 type-ahead behavior back
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L20[02:18:57] <Izaya> the one that makes it
impossible to type in a name and go to it in the file picker?
L21[02:19:03] <Izaya> or the one from gtk2
that worked?
L22[02:19:59] <gamax92> The one where
instead of recursively searching everything it just highlights
files in the current folder.
L23[02:20:31] <gamax92> Ubuntu has a patch
in it's gtk3 that restores the old behavior so I took that and
compiled it here for arch
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L25[02:20:59] <Izaya> oooh
L26[02:21:01] <gamax92> I wonder who
thought laggly recursive searching was a good idea :|
L27[02:21:02] <Izaya> is that on the
aur?
L28[02:21:19] <gamax92> uhh, it is but the
patch Ubuntu uses is different from the patch they use
L29[02:21:28] <Izaya> the same ones that
thought the rest of GNOME 3 was a good idea?
L30[02:21:38] <gamax92> also the aur one is
not up to date with the current gtk3 version arch has
L31[02:21:51] <gamax92> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk3-typeahead/
L32[02:22:32] <gamax92> 3.22.18 vs
3.22.19
L33[02:23:16] <gamax92> Izaya: for
reference, https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/typeahead.patch?h=gtk3-typeahead
vs https://hastebin.com/doxuqurevi.diff
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L35[02:27:48] <Saphire> Hmm
L36[02:27:56] <Saphire> Darn
L37[02:28:38] <Izaya> >aol
L38[02:28:52] <Izaya> >separate webcams
on laptops
L39[02:29:08] <Izaya> >tiny video chat
windows
L40[02:29:11] <Izaya> this is like
L41[02:29:19] <Izaya> straight out of
2005
L42[02:29:25] <gamax92> wtf are you talking
about
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L44[02:29:39] <Izaya> watching Veronica
Mars
L45[02:29:48] <Izaya> the little details
are incredibly entertaining
L46[02:30:57] *
Saphire nibbles on mainframes
L47[02:31:46] <Saphire> ...is it bad that I
want to somehow make something to rub Hercules VM in MC? I mean,
uhhh.. something similar to what OC does with Lua
L48[02:31:54] <Saphire> *run
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L50[02:40:36] <Izaya> I need to start
carrying around 'Out of order' signs
L51[02:45:43] <Saphire> Izaya: hmm?
L52[03:04:39] <gamax92> damn, internet was
doing fine, now back to nothing works and I have 6 seconds lag on
irc
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L54[03:23:24] <gamax92> oh cool, chrome
supports apng now
L55[03:23:28] <gamax92> only took ya 10
years.
L56[03:23:47] <Vexatos> wow
L57[03:23:51] <Vexatos> brand new
feature
L58[03:25:35] <Izaya> animated PNGs?
L59[03:25:41] <Izaya> so like, less shitty
PNGs?
L60[03:25:46] <Izaya> s/PNG/GIF/
L61[03:25:46] <MichiBot> <Izaya> so
like, less shitty GIFs?
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L63[04:18:51] <Saphire> Vexatos: right
after they put a nail in its coffin with webm
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L65[04:20:50] <ben_mkiv> well, apng allows
transparency
L66[04:21:06] <ben_mkiv> so it will
probably get used
L67[04:22:19] <Izaya> png supports
transparency?
L68[04:22:21] <Izaya> wait does gif
not?
L69[04:23:01] <ben_mkiv> gif has one
alphacolor
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L75[04:48:46] <gamax92> deflate compression
is also much better than lzw
L76[04:50:31] <Izaya> deflate is zip,
right?
L77[04:50:32] <gamax92> and png has an
additional prediction filter
L78[04:50:52] <gamax92> zip can use deflate
yes
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L80[04:55:38] <gamax92> Izaya: zip has a
number of compression formats but using anything other than deflate
will likely just cause it to be not able to decompress on a lot of
implementations
L81[04:56:55] <gamax92> hell some will even
choke on files that are marked as being stored non-compressed
L82[04:58:01] <Izaya> huh
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L84[05:47:56] <gamax92> lossy gif
compression by reusing old similar dictionary compression
entries
L85[06:00:52] <MGR>
https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-x399-designare-ex-unveiled
I like the look of this board
<MGR>
https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-x399-designare-ex-unveiled
I like the look of this boardL86[06:17:02] ⇨
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L87[06:22:25] <Izaya> that's a few RAM
slots
L88[06:23:43] <MGR>
Yep
<MGR>
YepL89[06:23:54] <MGR>
Threadripper has quad-channel memory
<MGR>
Threadripper has quad-channel memoryL90[06:24:22] <MGR> With
16GB UDIMMS and 2DPC, you can get 128GB of RAM
<MGR> With
16GB UDIMMS and 2DPC, you can get 128GB of RAML91[06:24:41] <Izaya> not bad
L92[06:25:17] <MGR>
Indeed, but it's more RAM than I can make use of at this time, so I
didn't go that route with my current build, which also technically
supports 128GB
<MGR>
Indeed, but it's more RAM than I can make use of at this time, so I
didn't go that route with my current build, which also technically
supports 128GBL93[06:25:32] <Izaya> I need to work out
how cheap a box with 32GB on a cheap-ass board and a few GBE cards
would be, then compare that to the price of a single machine with
as much RAM
L94[06:25:41] <Lizzy> run
a nural network on it
<Lizzy> run
a nural network on itL95[06:25:43] <Izaya> I forget who it was
but someone here does swap over LAN in memory
L96[06:26:06] <MGR> @Lizzy
Yes, but that means I have to spend more money on GPUs, and I don't
have a need for a neural network right now
<MGR> @Lizzy
Yes, but that means I have to spend more money on GPUs, and I don't
have a need for a neural network right nowL97[06:26:26] <Lizzy> well
you have threadripper, so you could do it on the cpu :P
<Lizzy> well
you have threadripper, so you could do it on the cpu :PL98[06:26:28] <MGR> Izaya,
you could also get a motherboard with 2 built in gigabit ethernet
ports. They aren't too expensive
<MGR> Izaya,
you could also get a motherboard with 2 built in gigabit ethernet
ports. They aren't too expensiveL99[06:26:34] *
Izaya is just imagining how many VMs he could run in
128GB
L100[06:26:48] <MGR> That
is true, but I still don't need a neural network right now, and I
built a computer 6 months ago, so I don't have the money
<MGR> That
is true, but I still don't need a neural network right now, and I
built a computer 6 months ago, so I don't have the moneyL101[06:27:06] <Izaya> MGR, they'd be more
expensive than the cheapest 1150 boards + the 15-30$ for an extra
GBE card
L102[06:27:07] <Lizzy> %lua
128/4
<Lizzy> %lua
128/4L103[06:27:07] <MichiBot> 32
L104[06:27:22] <Izaya> Considering I'm
using them entirely for memory expansion...
L105[06:27:25] <MGR> Let me
see
<MGR> Let me
seeL106[06:27:43] <Izaya> Do they still make
desktop Celerons?
L107[06:27:59] <Izaya> celery should be
able to handle 2Gbps ethernet and memory compression...
L108[06:28:00] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL109[06:28:44] <MGR> The
chepest motherboard with 2 ports is only $40 USD more expensive
than the cheapest LGA 1151 motherboard
<MGR> The
chepest motherboard with 2 ports is only $40 USD more expensive
than the cheapest LGA 1151 motherboardL110[06:28:54] <Izaya> Wonder how much a
cheap APU board would be nowdays...
L111[06:28:55] <MGR> Plus,
it leaves an expansion slot open
<MGR> Plus,
it leaves an expansion slot openL112[06:29:07] <Izaya> so I can slot in
more GBE cards, eh?
L113[06:29:09] <MGR> Do you
mean an A320 board?
<MGR> Do you
mean an A320 board?L114[06:29:17] <MGR> So you
can slot in more whatevers
<MGR> So you
can slot in more whateversL115[06:29:21] *
Izaya shrugs
L116[06:29:28] <Izaya> Whatever's cheap
and I can throw at least 16GB into
L117[06:29:35] <MGR>
uhhhhh
<MGR>
uhhhhhL118[06:29:45] <MGR> That's
pretty much everything
<MGR> That's
pretty much everythingL119[06:30:11] <Izaya> yup
L120[06:30:21] <Izaya> all this said, I
haven't maxed the 16GB on the virt server so \o/
L121[06:30:34] <Izaya> Can still double
that eventually
L122[06:30:42] <MGR>
Yeah
<MGR>
YeahL123[06:30:54] <Izaya> It's a fun idea
though L3
L124[06:30:56] <Izaya> :3
L125[06:31:06] <MGR> Every
desktop platform I know of, even in a mITX format, supports at
least 32GB of RAM
<MGR> Every
desktop platform I know of, even in a mITX format, supports at
least 32GB of RAML126[06:31:16] <MGR> Every
*modern* platform
<MGR> Every
*modern* platformL127[06:31:27] <Izaya> psh
L128[06:31:39] <Izaya> I have a board I
can put a gig into but won't post with more than 768M
L129[06:32:01] <MGR> That's
not a *modern* dekstop platform
<MGR> That's
not a *modern* dekstop platformL130[06:32:08] <Izaya> I'm aware.
L131[06:32:11] <Izaya> It's an old server
box.
L132[06:32:34] <Izaya> Dual CPUs, SCSI 320
on board, two serial ports...
L133[06:32:36] <Izaya> Damn nice.
L134[06:32:44] <Izaya> Anyway, sarcasm
isn't helping much here.
L135[06:33:28] <MGR> I had
to do a parts list with serial port cards once, because old alarm
equipment needed to be controlled by the server
<MGR> I had
to do a parts list with serial port cards once, because old alarm
equipment needed to be controlled by the serverL136[06:34:01] <Lizzy>
Serial is still useful IMO
<Lizzy>
Serial is still useful IMOL137[06:34:10] <Izaya> Serial is very
useful for a lot of things.
L138[06:34:29] <MGR> I
know, but I don't usually encounter it
<MGR> I
know, but I don't usually encounter itL139[06:34:31] <Izaya> Smart switches,
electronics projects, custom SBCs...
L140[06:34:36] <MGR> So it
was unusual for me
<MGR> So it
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L142[06:34:57] <Izaya> oh right MGR
L143[06:35:04] <Izaya> did I show you the
latest PsychOS demo? :P
L144[06:35:07] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/ouesle.webm
L145[06:35:16] <MGR>
K
<MGR>
KL146[06:35:30] <Lizzy> my
home server has a serial cable sitting on the light switch of the
cupboard under the stairs which i can plug my laptop into (with
help of a usb-to-serial cable) and immediately get debug info
(cause dmesg -w is running on there by default)
<Lizzy> my
home server has a serial cable sitting on the light switch of the
cupboard under the stairs which i can plug my laptop into (with
help of a usb-to-serial cable) and immediately get debug info
(cause dmesg -w is running on there by default)L147[06:35:53] <Izaya> oooh that's pretty
nice
L148[06:36:10] <Izaya> bonus points: hook
it up as a syslog server, have all the logs of everything on
there
L149[06:36:42] <Lizzy>
granted i don't see past backlog when i connect to it but i can see
any new errors that show up
<Lizzy>
granted i don't see past backlog when i connect to it but i can see
any new errors that show upL150[06:36:45] <MGR> All
the logs in all the places?
<MGR> All
the logs in all the places?L151[06:36:55] <Izaya> All of them.
L152[06:37:15] <Izaya> Every server, every
desktop, every switch, every networking appliance...
L153[06:37:27] <Izaya> You can even hook
up backwards systems like Windows up to it.
L154[06:38:02] <Izaya> ... which reminds
me, I should set up one of the shitty S10es as a syslog server...
160GB is a fair bit of logs and I have plenty of DVDs to burn if I
want to
L155[06:38:26] <MGR> Izaya,
see what you really need is, 25 Gigabit Ethernet
<MGR> Izaya,
see what you really need is, 25 Gigabit EthernetL156[06:38:41] <MGR> You
can link 2 computers together for only $1,400 USD!
<MGR> You
can link 2 computers together for only $1,400 USD!L157[06:39:09] <Izaya> whoa
L158[06:39:11] <Izaya> so cheap /s
L159[06:39:17] <MGR> I
know, right?!
<MGR> I
know, right?!L160[06:39:34] <MGR> I've
stockpiled multiple installations, even though I only have 1
desktop!
<MGR> I've
stockpiled multiple installations, even though I only have 1
desktop!L161[06:39:53] <Lizzy>
pfft, who needs ethernet? just solder together 2 PCIE risers and
connect them between computers
<Lizzy>
pfft, who needs ethernet? just solder together 2 PCIE risers and
connect them between computersL162[06:40:06] <MGR> @Lizzy
Whoaaaaaa
<MGR> @Lizzy
WhoaaaaaaL163[06:40:10] <Izaya> does PCI-e cope
with multiple masters?
L164[06:40:16] <MGR> Do you
have preliminary PCIe 5 PHYs?!
<MGR> Do you
have preliminary PCIe 5 PHYs?!L165[06:40:31] <Izaya> also, why not do
PCI-e x1 over cat5 or 6?
L166[06:40:52] <MGR>
Because, why would you want to?
<MGR>
Because, why would you want to?L167[06:40:53] <Izaya> I've seen x2 over
USB
L168[06:41:06] <Izaya> you can run it
longer distances if you use better cables, MGR
L169[06:41:15] <MGR> Yes,
but why would you want to?
<MGR> Yes,
but why would you want to?L170[06:41:27] <Izaya> so you can connect
two machines directly via PCI-e
L171[06:41:36] <Izaya> :3
L172[06:41:41] <MGR> I
think that's called Thunderbolt, or OCuLink
<MGR> I
think that's called Thunderbolt, or OCuLinkL173[06:41:53] <Izaya> >not
jury-rigging your own cables
L174[06:42:05] <MGR>
???
<MGR>
???L175[06:42:24] <Izaya> hm, while I'm doing
maintenance anyway, do I need anything but OC and Computronics for
an OC creative server?
L176[06:42:36] <Lizzy>
probably not
<Lizzy>
probably notL177[06:42:46] <MGR> What
do you need from that server?
<MGR> What
do you need from that server?L178[06:43:02] <Izaya> It's the one I have
the 256 chunkloaded computers on
L179[06:43:03] <Lizzy> also
i might see if i can get a controller board for my old laptop's LCD
panel and just have a pi hooked up as the syslog/systemd
'terminal'
<Lizzy> also
i might see if i can get a controller board for my old laptop's LCD
panel and just have a pi hooked up as the syslog/systemd
'terminal'L180[06:43:45] <MGR> That
still isn't too helpful on explaining what you need from an OC
server though
<MGR> That
still isn't too helpful on explaining what you need from an OC
server thoughL181[06:45:34] <Izaya> uh, messing with
fancy drone-based storage systems and running lots of dedicated
instances of the OC lua setup?
L182[06:45:54] <MGR> Why do
you want a drone-based storage system?
<MGR> Why do
you want a drone-based storage system?L183[06:46:17] <Izaya> Have you ever seen
a video of a tape library?
L184[06:48:05] <MGR>
No
<MGR>
NoL185[06:48:18] <Inari> RIP my discord
connection
L186[06:48:24] <MGR> I also
doubt that drones are the most efficient storage method
<MGR> I also
doubt that drones are the most efficient storage methodL187[06:48:35] <Izaya> I'm not using
drones to store stuff :P
L188[06:48:46] <Izaya> I'm using them to
transport stuff.
L189[06:49:05] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrKAP3VdZA
L190[06:49:06] <MichiBot> Hackers -
tape robot fight scene | length: 1m 24s | Likes:
4 Dislikes: 0 Views: 1,464 | by cmdrk1138 |
Published On 15/1/2015
L191[06:49:27] <MGR>
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, storage as in ITEM storage, not FILE
storage
<MGR>
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, storage as in ITEM storage, not FILE
storageL192[06:49:41] <Izaya> yeah
L193[06:49:43] <Corded> * <MGR>
still doubts that drones are the most efficient item storage
method
L194[06:49:49] <Izaya> is there a mod that
adds just plain crates?
L195[06:50:24] <Izaya> I just want two
boxes I can put next to each other and not have them interact
weirdly
L196[06:51:26] <Izaya> man
L197[06:51:38] <MGR>
Immersive Engineering does
<MGR>
Immersive Engineering doesL198[06:51:46] <Izaya> this box is running
an ancient copy of PsychOS :D
L199[06:51:50] <Izaya> like from MONTHS
ago
L200[06:52:46] <Izaya> [millions of
instances of my old netboot firmware]
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L202[06:53:05] <LuMistry>
Greetings
<LuMistry>
GreetingsL203[06:53:38] ⇦
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L204[07:08:09] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJCzM55UIAArBp6.jpg:large
L205[07:08:59] <Forecaster>
fun fact, if your face is full of it, it actually becomes very hard
to chew
<Forecaster>
fun fact, if your face is full of it, it actually becomes very hard
to chewL206[07:10:55] <Inari> Unfortunately you
aren't in the nsfw channel :f
L207[07:12:41] <Forecaster>
this is true :P
<Forecaster>
this is true :PL208[07:12:51] <Forecaster>
I'm not even on irc right now anyway
<Forecaster>
I'm not even on irc right now anywayL209[07:15:40] <Toskin>
*checks picture*
<Toskin>
*checks picture*L210[07:15:42] <Toskin> One
of these things is not like the others...
<Toskin> One
of these things is not like the others...L211[07:16:08] <MGR>
Maybe
<MGR>
MaybeL212[07:27:29] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ
L213[07:27:29] <MichiBot> Breaking the
x86 Instruction Set | length: 44m 29s | Likes:
1,929 Dislikes: 18 Views: 53,093 | by Black Hat |
Published On 31/8/2017
L214[07:27:36] *
Izaya mumbles something about CISC being bad
L215[07:29:05] <MGR> I
believe that is your opinion
<MGR> I
believe that is your opinionL216[07:29:36] <Izaya> I also believe it's
my opinion.
L217[07:30:04] <Izaya> I love how all
these x86 chips have some overlapping undocumented instructions and
then each manufacturer has different sets of non-shared ones
L218[07:36:41] *
Inari equips Temia with cute cuteness
L219[07:37:05] *
Temia is already cute though!
L220[07:37:27] <Forecaster>
so now you have cute x3
<Forecaster>
so now you have cute x3L221[07:37:27] <Izaya> now you can hit
people with it though
L222[07:47:13] <Temia> But I have my axe
for that D:
L223[07:47:22] <Temia> Nothing's cuter
than a tiny girl with a big axe!
L224[07:48:08] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L225[07:48:29] <Izaya> Depends on
perspective, I imagine
L227[08:02:28] <MichiBot> What Happens
If We Bring the Sun to Earth? | length: 7m 1s | Likes:
8,990 Dislikes: 92 Views: 90,320 | by Kurzgesagt – In
a Nutshell | Published On 7/9/2017
L228[08:02:46] <MGR> Uh,
bad things
<MGR> Uh,
bad thingsL229[08:03:03] <MGR>
@Forecaster We have no more Earth now, gee thanks /sarcasm
<MGR>
@Forecaster We have no more Earth now, gee thanks /sarcasmL230[08:03:14] <Forecaster>
they're only small samples
<Forecaster>
they're only small samplesL231[08:03:27] <Forecaster>
they wont destroy the planet (completely)
<Forecaster>
they wont destroy the planet (completely)L232[08:03:29] <MGR> Well,
then we have lots of fires
<MGR> Well,
then we have lots of firesL233[08:10:36] <MGR>
Crucial BX300 looks pretty nice
<MGR>
Crucial BX300 looks pretty niceL234[08:13:12]
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L235[08:25:16] <MGR> Why,
did you know that if a beaver two feet long with a tail a foot and
a half long can build a dam twelve feet high and six feet wide in
two days, all you would need to build Hoover Dam is a beaver
sixty-eight feet long with a fifty-one-foot tail?
<MGR> Why,
did you know that if a beaver two feet long with a tail a foot and
a half long can build a dam twelve feet high and six feet wide in
two days, all you would need to build Hoover Dam is a beaver
sixty-eight feet long with a fifty-one-foot tail?L236[08:27:28] <Vexatos> Hmmm https://my.mixtape.moe/cbjotm.png
L237[08:27:54] <Forecaster>
ohno
<Forecaster>
ohnoL238[08:27:56] <Forecaster>
updates
<Forecaster>
updatesL239[08:28:05] <MGR>
Oh?
<MGR>
Oh?L240[08:28:44] <MGR>
Congratulations Vexatos, looks like a nice update
<MGR>
Congratulations Vexatos, looks like a nice updateL241[08:29:08] <Forecaster>
it has numbers
<Forecaster>
it has numbersL242[08:30:57] <MGR> The
Everpresent Wordsnatcher, a bird that lives to misinterpret what
others say, is actually native to the land of Context. "But
it's such a nasty place, I prefer to spend all my time out of
it."
<MGR> The
Everpresent Wordsnatcher, a bird that lives to misinterpret what
others say, is actually native to the land of Context. "But
it's such a nasty place, I prefer to spend all my time out of
it."L243[08:32:32] ⇦
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L244[08:34:25] <Forecaster>
psh, Context is just an imaginary place right next to
Neverland!
<Forecaster>
psh, Context is just an imaginary place right next to
Neverland!L245[08:34:42] <Vexatos> Hooray \:D/
https://twitter.com/Croxmata/status/905787990311653376
L246[08:34:43] <MichiBot> Thu Sep 07
08:41:00 CDT 2017 @Croxmata: Computronics 1.6.5 is out! Lots of bug
fixes, a portable tape drive, and a version for Minecraft 1.12.1!
Get it at https://t.co/58ReuzHjbG
L247[08:34:44] <Vexatos> Only took
L248[08:34:46] <Vexatos> half a year
again
L249[08:34:48] *
Vexatos coughs
L250[08:34:57] <Vexatos> 90% of that was
Railcraft though
L251[08:34:57] <Vexatos> :P
L252[08:35:25] <MGR>
@Forecaster Have you read the Phantom Tollbooth?
<MGR>
@Forecaster Have you read the Phantom Tollbooth?L253[08:35:48] <Inari> Izaya: interesting
stuff @x86
L254[08:36:01] <Inari> I wonder if thers
any info on the net on dbe0 and dbe1
L255[08:36:08] <Forecaster>
I have not
<Forecaster>
I have notL256[08:36:36] <Izaya> Inari: if not,
there will be soon
L257[08:37:36] <Inari> Seems odd that they
exist on amd and intel processors
L258[08:38:12] <Izaya> maybe they're the
secret NSA instructions :^)
L259[08:38:35] <Izaya> speaking of secret
NSA stuff, they managed to disable most of the ME by setting a flag
Intel added for the US govt.
L260[08:39:06] <MGR>
@Forecaster You should. It's an excellent book, and filled with
puns
<MGR>
@Forecaster You should. It's an excellent book, and filled with
punsL261[08:39:15] <MGR> A
interesting variation occurred with the U.S. gold rush into the
Black Hills of South Dakota. Miners were pissed that their sifting
machines kept getting clogged with a thick blue powder. An
enterprising businessman found a way to filter it out and kept the
powder as part of the payment. It turned out that the blue powder
was silver in concentrations of nearly 100 times higher than the
gold. While gold is significantly more valuable than
<MGR> A
interesting variation occurred with the U.S. gold rush into the
Black Hills of South Dakota. Miners were pissed that their sifting
machines kept getting clogged with a thick blue powder. An
enterprising businessman found a way to filter it out and kept the
powder as part of the payment. It turned out that the blue powder
was silver in concentrations of nearly 100 times higher than the
gold. While gold is significantly more valuable thanL262[08:39:16] <MGR>
silver, it's not 100 times more valuable. --- Quote 3/3 for the
day
<MGR>
silver, it's not 100 times more valuable. --- Quote 3/3 for the
dayL263[08:40:20] <Forecaster>
"it has puns" doesn't get me to read a book
<Forecaster>
"it has puns" doesn't get me to read a bookL264[08:41:48] <MGR> It's
also a good book
<MGR> It's
also a good bookL265[08:43:09] <Vexatos> I doubt it has
more puns than Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
L266[08:43:33] <MGR> It's
pretty up there
<MGR> It's
pretty up thereL267[08:43:39] <Vexatos> I...
L268[08:43:39] <Vexatos> I doubt it has
more puns than Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
L269[08:43:41] <Vexatos> :P
L270[08:43:56] <MGR> I'm
not going to read both and count the number of puns, but if it is
less, it comes close
<MGR> I'm
not going to read both and count the number of puns, but if it is
less, it comes closeL271[08:44:19] <Vexatos> Half of the story
is based on puns and their meanings, if not more
L272[08:44:26] <Vexatos> So good :I
L273[08:46:31] <MGR>
Vexatos, same with the Phantom Tollbooth
<MGR>
Vexatos, same with the Phantom TollboothL274[08:46:39] <MGR> In
fact, almost everything is a pun
<MGR> In
fact, almost everything is a punL275[08:47:27] <Forecaster>
there's a band called The Phantom Tollbooth
<Forecaster>
there's a band called The Phantom TollboothL276[08:48:14] <MGR>
Uh
<MGR>
UhL277[08:48:16] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL278[08:49:25]
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L279[08:49:34] <Forecaster>
it's true
<Forecaster>
it's trueL280[08:49:48] <MalkContent> , believe
me
L281[08:52:12] <MGR> I
believe you
<MGR> I
believe youL282[08:52:23] <Forecaster>
what if you shouldn't
<Forecaster>
what if you shouldn'tL283[08:53:20] <MGR>
K
<MGR>
KL285[08:59:55] <Michiyo> ...
L286[09:00:14] <Michiyo> Sears truck done
before I even officially started the work day
L287[09:00:31] <MGR>
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
<MGR>
NiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceL288[09:00:54] <Michiyo> it's also nice
and cool out.. so it wasn't 640 deg and 190% humidity
L289[09:02:10] <Vexatos> That's not how...
oh wait
L290[09:02:24] <Michiyo> Also, I think the
"new" guy quit..
L291[09:03:05] <Forecaster>
so he's now the new old guy
<Forecaster>
so he's now the new old guyL292[09:06:12] <MGR>
Michiyo, even better
<MGR>
Michiyo, even betterL293[09:06:19] <MGR> The
first part, not the second part
<MGR> The
first part, not the second partL294[09:08:09] <Michiyo> IDK man... dude
has missed more work in the.. 2 months? he's been here.. than I
have in the almost 2 years I've been here..
L295[09:09:31] <MGR> Then
that's not too good
<MGR> Then
that's not too goodL296[09:09:43] <MGR> I'm
surprised they didn't fire him
<MGR> I'm
surprised they didn't fire himL297[09:10:27] <Temia> Jeez.
L298[09:10:32] <Temia> Also Michi
L299[09:10:36] <Temia> Hey Michi
L300[09:10:44] <Temia> Why did Ilberd go
to the 7-11?
L301[09:11:22] <Michiyo> IDK, why?
L302[09:11:23] <Temia> Because he wanted a
Slurpee :D
L303[09:11:32] <Michiyo> ...
L304[09:11:34] <Michiyo> lol
L305[09:11:36] *
Temia giggleflee
L306[09:12:03] <Temia> Sorry, I've been
reading a bunch of FFXIV dad jokes because I am a hopeless
goof
L307[09:12:05] <Michiyo> but seriously...
fuck that guy.. :P
L308[09:12:10] <Temia> Yeah, screw
him
L309[09:12:24] <Michiyo> lol
L310[09:12:32] <MGR> I
support your statement
<MGR> I
support your statementL311[09:12:41] <MGR>
Consistency is important
<MGR>
Consistency is importantL312[09:12:47] <Lizzy> not
litterally, of course
<Lizzy> not
litterally, of courseL313[09:12:53] <Temia> Oh good gods
no
L314[09:12:59] <Corded> * <MGR>
nods
L315[09:16:19] ⇦
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reset by peer)
L316[09:16:33] <Michiyo> I ordered my
replacement monitor... just wish I could have got faster
shipping..
L317[09:17:05] <MGR> What's
the specs?
<MGR> What's
the specs?L318[09:17:18] <Michiyo> color, lcd,
big
L319[09:17:24] <MGR>
Lol
<MGR>
LolL320[09:17:28] <MGR> Model
number?
<MGR> Model
number?L321[09:17:31] <Lizzy>
6
<Lizzy>
6L322[09:17:33] <Michiyo> ###-###
L323[09:17:35] <Izaya> color is
important
L324[09:17:36] <Lizzy>
666
<Lizzy>
666L325[09:17:39] <MGR>
Awesome, thank you
<MGR>
Awesome, thank youL326[09:17:39] <Izaya> the other ones not
so much
L327[09:18:02] <Michiyo> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824276457
it's not amazing, but it does what I need.
L328[09:18:26] <Izaya> looks nice
L329[09:18:47] <Izaya> good connectors
too
L330[09:19:09] <Michiyo> and it's the same
as the other 2 I already have :P
L331[09:19:19] <Temia> ...pfff
L332[09:19:19] <MGR> Not
bad
<MGR> Not
badL333[09:19:22] <Temia> This is a good
one
L334[09:19:22] <Izaya> in that case it's
perfect
L335[09:19:24] <Temia> What do you call
DPS scholars?
L336[09:19:38] <MGR> I feel
like there's cheaper though... hold on
<MGR> I feel
like there's cheaper though... hold onL337[09:19:40] <Izaya> anyway
L338[09:19:46] <Temia> Theoretical
physickists c:
L339[09:19:52] <Michiyo> ...
L340[09:19:55] <Izaya> I'm gonna go throw
myself off a bridge or something, o/
L341[09:19:56] *
Michiyo glares at Temia
L342[09:19:57] <Michiyo> lol
L343[09:20:04] *
Temia :c
L344[09:20:09] *
Temia hides behind her Eos
L345[09:20:37] <Skye> Izaya, please don't!
D:
L346[09:20:51] <Michiyo> @MGR I'm sure
there are, but like I said, I have 3 of these.. I'm not going with
some random for a replacement :P
L347[09:20:58] <MGR> Makes
sense
<MGR> Makes
senseL348[09:21:20] <MGR> And of
the ones that match your specs, I couldn't find one more than $20
cheaper
<MGR> And of
the ones that match your specs, I couldn't find one more than $20
cheaperL349[09:21:21] <Michiyo> When I got them
they were on sale, so now I'm paying normal price
L350[09:21:31] <MGR> So no
big loss
<MGR> So no
big lossL351[09:21:39]
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L352[09:21:43] <MGR> Except
for non-IPS
<MGR> Except
for non-IPSL353[09:21:48] <Izaya> Skye: you're in
luck
L354[09:21:59] <Izaya> there are no
significant bridges nearby
L355[09:22:29] <Michiyo> Eh, I'm not
really worried about IPS
L356[09:23:10] <MGR> IPS is
nice, but not critical
<MGR> IPS is
nice, but not criticalL357[09:23:18] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
kinda wants 4k displays but can't justify spending the money to get
3 of them at this time, becuase she also wants her monitors to
match
L358[09:26:00] <MGR> @Lizzy
Obviously you want to spend $6,000 to get 3 of Asus' new 4K 144Hz
DCI-P3 GSync DP1.4 IPS QD displays!
<MGR> @Lizzy
Obviously you want to spend $6,000 to get 3 of Asus' new 4K 144Hz
DCI-P3 GSync DP1.4 IPS QD displays!L359[09:26:04] <Izaya> I've come to the
conclusion that none of my stuff will ever match so currently I'm
building shelves that fit 17" 1280x1024 monitors
perfectly
L360[09:26:11] <Corded> * <MGR>
could chain more acronyms onto the end of that description
L361[09:26:15] <Michiyo> I just hope I can
get the damn screen off the mount, without having to take the mount
off my desk..
L362[09:26:22] <Izaya> Gonna be able to do
6 of them in the space of 3
L363[09:27:26] <Michiyo> what I SHOULD do
is build a base for the mount.. so it sits on my desk.. but that's
A LOT of weight to try to balance... lol
L364[09:27:34] <Lizzy> @MGR
that'd be about the same amount as my current bank balance + 2
months of pay
<Lizzy> @MGR
that'd be about the same amount as my current bank balance + 2
months of payL365[09:27:41] <Lizzy>
roughly
<Lizzy>
roughlyL366[09:27:57] <MGR> So,
obviously you want to spend it all on monitor! *obvious sarcasm is
obvious*
<MGR> So,
obviously you want to spend it all on monitor! *obvious sarcasm is
obvious*L367[09:28:11] <Lizzy> no,
i will spend it on bacon
<Lizzy> no,
i will spend it on baconL368[09:30:08] <MGR> Good
idea!
<MGR> Good
idea!L369[09:30:13] <Michiyo>
((280*4)*2)+280
L370[09:30:16] <Michiyo> err
L371[09:30:20] <Michiyo> %calc
((280*4)*2)+280
L372[09:30:20] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
2,520
L373[09:30:31] <Michiyo> so yeah... not
even close to 6 grand for me :P
L374[09:32:02] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L375[09:32:11] <MGR> Oh,
your bank account balance + 2 months of pay
<MGR> Oh,
your bank account balance + 2 months of payL376[09:32:15] <Michiyo> yep
L377[09:32:40] <Izaya> oh. work.
wages.
L378[09:32:42] *
Izaya shudders
L379[09:32:51] <Skye> Lizzy, the code name
for my phone (the one plus one) is... Bacon.
L380[09:33:41] <MGR> Skye,
you have a oneplus?!
<MGR> Skye,
you have a oneplus?!L381[09:33:44] <MGR> What
model?
<MGR> What
model?L382[09:33:50] <Skye> Read.
L383[09:34:02] <MGR>
Oh...
<MGR>
Oh...L384[09:34:08] <Izaya> ._.
L385[09:34:32] <MGR>
Heh....
<MGR>
Heh....L386[09:35:00] <Lizzy>
Skye, heh
<Lizzy>
Skye, hehL387[09:35:16] <Skye> Lizzy, please don't
eat my phone...
L388[09:36:03] <Michiyo> Mmmmm bacon
phone...
L389[09:36:08] <MGR> I make
up non-sensical words for my primary electronic devices
<MGR> I make
up non-sensical words for my primary electronic devicesL390[09:36:10] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
nibbles on Skyes phone
L391[09:36:43] <Izaya> phones were a
mistake
L392[09:37:04] ⇦
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L393[09:38:20] <Skye> Izaya, I was a
nutter who used Internet on old phones
L394[09:38:31] <MGR>
Eyyyyyyyy, I did that once too!
<MGR>
Eyyyyyyyy, I did that once too!L395[09:38:37] <MGR> And
then regretted it
<MGR> And
then regretted itL396[09:39:21] <Skye> I had nothing else
to use
L397[09:39:28] <Skye> It was before
smartphones
L398[09:39:28] <MGR> My
first experience with smartphones is when I accidentally exploited
a bug in BlackBerry's OS and broke my father's BlackBerry
<MGR> My
first experience with smartphones is when I accidentally exploited
a bug in BlackBerry's OS and broke my father's BlackBerryL399[09:39:48] <Izaya> mine involved
bricking it because I wanted to remove the samsung malware
L400[09:40:04] <MGR> I just
hid every single application, and the phone freaked out
<MGR> I just
hid every single application, and the phone freaked outL401[09:40:37] <Izaya> I'm a terrible
person.
L402[09:40:54] <Izaya> I'm intentionally
saturating the connection to fuck with everyone else in the
house
L403[09:41:06] <Lizzy>
lol
<Lizzy>
lolL404[09:41:26] <Izaya> buuuut everyone
else in the house are terrible people too so who gives a fuck
L405[09:42:52] <MGR> How
are you saturating the connection?
<MGR> How
are you saturating the connection?L406[09:43:18] <Lizzy> with
bacon grease
<Lizzy> with
bacon greaseL407[09:47:41]
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L408[09:49:11] <Izaya> MGR, Steam and
torrenting
L409[09:49:25]
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L410[09:56:09] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL411[09:56:27] <MGR>
Internet at work went down, and then I used my IT genius to unplug
the modem and plug it back in
<MGR>
Internet at work went down, and then I used my IT genius to unplug
the modem and plug it back inL412[09:57:54] <Michiyo> internet at work
went down last week.. turned on the hotspot on my phone, bridged
wifi adapter on desktop to send UPS packages and run credit cards..
lol
L413[09:58:30] <MGR> I
COULD do that, except I only have 200 MB of data on my phone
<MGR> I
COULD do that, except I only have 200 MB of data on my phoneL414[09:58:41] <Michiyo> O_O
L415[09:58:56] <Michiyo> I get 3GB a month
with roll over, currently @ 177% of said 3GB
L416[09:59:10] <Lizzy> i
don't feel like trying to use my phone to replace the gigabit
inter-site links we have
<Lizzy> i
don't feel like trying to use my phone to replace the gigabit
inter-site links we haveL417[09:59:11] <MGR> Well,
I only pay $17 for my phone service
<MGR> Well,
I only pay $17 for my phone serviceL418[09:59:22] <Lizzy> i
have 12GB, don't use it all though
<Lizzy> i
have 12GB, don't use it all thoughL419[09:59:49] <MGR> Due to
limited funds, I allocate money to where I will get the most
enjoyment out of it
<MGR> Due to
limited funds, I allocate money to where I will get the most
enjoyment out of itL420[10:00:08] <Michiyo> All we use the
internet for is UPS and Credit cards.. and I use it for RDP to IRC
:p
L421[10:00:14] <MGR> So I
pay for the minimum level of phone service I need to properly
function and ensure I can be reached in case of emergency
<MGR> So I
pay for the minimum level of phone service I need to properly
function and ensure I can be reached in case of emergencyL422[10:00:45] <Michiyo> I'm on Verizon's
cheapest plan, $40 a month
L423[10:00:53] <Michiyo> :/
L424[10:01:41] <MGR> I pay
less than half that, which explains why my phone service is so
limited ;P
<MGR> I pay
less than half that, which explains why my phone service is so
limited ;PL425[10:01:48] <Lizzy> i
have 8.2GB left of my 12GB
<Lizzy> i
have 8.2GB left of my 12GBL426[10:01:48] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L427[10:02:02] <Lizzy> also
damn michiyo, that's expensive
<Lizzy> also
damn michiyo, that's expensiveL428[10:02:14] <MGR> I've
mastered the art of going within 10MB of my data limit
<MGR> I've
mastered the art of going within 10MB of my data limitL429[10:02:17] <Michiyo> And I pay that 3x
a month!
L430[10:02:26] <Lizzy> why
3 times?
<Lizzy> why
3 times?L431[10:02:38] <Michiyo> Myself, Naomi,
and my oldest have phones.
L432[10:02:43] <Lizzy>
ah
<Lizzy>
ahL433[10:03:13] <Michiyo> I was gonna get
the oldest a cheapy ass cricket phone or something...
L434[10:03:21] <Michiyo> but just said
fuckit and put her on verizon too..
L435[10:03:40] <Michiyo> I'd get a post
paid plan.. it'd be cheaper, but they want $400 deposit to open an
account.
L436[10:08:16] <Saphire> Flop
L437[10:08:46] <Forecaster>
everybody do the flop!
<Forecaster>
everybody do the flop!L438[10:09:23] <Corded> * <MGR>
falls on his face
L439[10:09:33] <Saphire> I want a Hercules
emulator mod for Minecraft x.x
L440[10:09:56] <Forecaster>
so make one :P
<Forecaster>
so make one :PL441[10:10:12] <Saphire> I mean, a mod
that would use (most likely modified version of) Hercules emulator
to simulate a mainframe in Minecraft
L442[10:10:41] <Saphire> Like,
(multi)block structures that you link up with cables and
etc...
L443[10:11:07] <Saphire> But IIRC Hercules
has no runtime device removal...
L444[10:12:16] <Saphire> Also making a
proper control panel would be hard
L445[10:12:42] <Saphire> The devices and
disk management is easy part
L446[10:13:00] <Saphire> ... Also
terminals would be hell to work with I guess
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L450[10:32:48] <payonel> o/
L451[10:32:57] <Izaya> \o
L452[10:33:39] <MGR>
\o/
<MGR>
\o/L453[10:38:58] <Saphire> :c
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L457[11:37:36] <MGR>
Mimiru, buy one of these with your new monitor!
<MGR>
Mimiru, buy one of these with your new monitor!L458[12:00:15] *
AmandaC buys a muzzle for @MGR, ships it to Michiyo
L459[12:00:47] <MGR>
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<MGR>
ShhhhhhhhhhhhhhL460[12:02:39] <Izaya> exactly
L461[12:03:02] <MGR> I was
making a joke, both times
<MGR> I was
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L464[12:27:43] <payonel> @freacknate09
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/fc486d4bd28c08cf25bc4719a0618bd83b33e800
L465[12:28:32] <Izaya> >.> went to
do some races on GTA and nobody is doing races apparently
L466[12:32:23] <Vexatos> That's racist
D:
L468[12:43:37] <Vexatos> that doesn't
sound healthy
L469[12:45:03] <payonel> i used to work
for ancestry.com
L470[12:45:35] <Forecaster>
be honest, how many have asshole ancestors?
<Forecaster>
be honest, how many have asshole ancestors?L471[12:45:38] <Vexatos> so you were one
of the people who made up ancestries?
L472[12:46:17] <payonel> haha
L473[12:46:51] <payonel> i worked on the
security software platform team
L474[12:47:02] <Vexatos> So you made sure
that noone found out they were made-up
L475[12:47:07] <payonel> we kept account
data protected, and i built the bank communication stuff
L476[12:47:19] <Vexatos> yea that's what
you tell people on the outside
L477[12:49:26] <MGR> It's
ok payonel, we can keep a secret ?
<MGR> It's
ok payonel, we can keep a secret ?L478[12:50:08] <Vexatos> ^ he cannot
L479[12:50:17] <payonel> :) i dont know
anything about the data collection
L480[12:50:22] <MGR> And
what makes you think that?
<MGR> And
what makes you think that?L481[12:50:23] <payonel> i only worked to
protect it
L482[12:50:48] <Vexatos> Nothing says
"I cannot keep secrets" as someone assuring you that they
can keep secrets
L483[12:51:02] <Michiyo> I can't keep
secrets!
L484[12:51:08] <Vexatos> ^ a trustworthy
person
L485[12:51:15] <MGR> Well,
I actually can keep secrets, practice by telling me one
<MGR> Well,
I actually can keep secrets, practice by telling me oneL486[12:51:19] <MGR> You
can PM it to me
<MGR> You
can PM it to meL487[12:51:23] <payonel> haha
L488[12:51:30] <MGR> And
I'll keep it forever
<MGR> And
I'll keep it foreverL489[12:51:31] <Vexatos> I cannot
L490[12:51:33] <Vexatos> you are not on
IRL
L491[12:51:35] <Vexatos> IRC*
L492[12:51:38] <Vexatos> well, not IRL
either
L493[12:51:43] <Vexatos> that was not a
typo
L494[12:51:47] <Vexatos> It makes perfect
sense
L495[12:52:08] <Forecaster>
corded can pm across the bridge
<Forecaster>
corded can pm across the bridgeL496[12:52:16] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL497[12:52:29] <MGR> I am
on IRC
<MGR> I am
on IRCL498[12:52:40] *
Izaya points at MajGenRelativity
L499[12:52:42] <MajGenRelativity>
Tada
L500[12:52:43] <Izaya> burn the
witch
L501[12:52:51] <MajGenRelativity> No
L502[12:54:06] <g> ahaha
L503[12:54:11] <g> who was it I was
talking to here about sci-hub?
L504[12:54:19] <g> and how they blocked
russian users
L505[12:54:31] *
MajGenRelativity is sad to see no secrets
L506[12:54:42] <g> it turns out, the
reason they did that is because a russian scientist named a
parasitic wasp after the sci-hub founder xD
L507[12:55:24] <Forecaster>
what's sci-hub?
<Forecaster>
what's sci-hub?L508[12:55:45] <g> it's a site where one
can search for and download for free all kinds of scientific papers
and publications
L509[12:55:51] <g> it's piracy, of
course
L510[12:55:52] <Vexatos> the second most
important source of information outside of your local uni
library
L511[12:55:53] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL512[12:55:59] <g> but has massive
academic benefits
L513[12:56:03] <payonel> @freacknate09
wake up!
L514[12:56:05] <Forecaster>
I don't have a uni-library
<Forecaster>
I don't have a uni-libraryL515[12:56:23] <Vexatos> You aren't
studying chemistry, either
L516[12:56:27] <Vexatos> So you don't need
one :P
L517[12:57:13] <Forecaster>
but what if I wake up one day and find that I'm suddenly studying
chemistry?! D:
<Forecaster>
but what if I wake up one day and find that I'm suddenly studying
chemistry?! D:L518[13:18:16] <Inari> Oh look
L519[13:18:19] <Inari> the IRC spammers
are back
L520[13:18:33] <MajGenRelativity> ?
L521[13:28:21] <Michiyo> Well.. I wish
they'd hit here..
L522[13:28:24] <Michiyo> I wanna see if
the kick works.
L523[13:29:44] <MajGenRelativity> Huh, I
haven't seen them in any of the channels I'm in
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L526[13:47:07] <Forecaster>
so, apparently a shut-down robot still uses power
<Forecaster>
so, apparently a shut-down robot still uses powerL527[13:47:09] <Forecaster>
that's nice
<Forecaster>
that's niceL528[13:47:20] <MGR>
What
<MGR>
WhatL529[13:47:47] <Forecaster>
yeah
<Forecaster>
yeahL530[13:50:09] <Forecaster>
I had a robot that had powered down itself according to it's
program
<Forecaster>
I had a robot that had powered down itself according to it's
programL531[13:50:18] <Forecaster>
the battery was drained so I charged it a bit
<Forecaster>
the battery was drained so I charged it a bitL532[13:50:39] <Forecaster>
I didn't touch it, but it was slowly loosing powere while still
being off
<Forecaster>
I didn't touch it, but it was slowly loosing powere while still
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L534[13:55:23] <MGR> That's
not good
<MGR> That's
not goodL535[13:56:28] <payonel> anyone familiar
with the CC parallel api?
L536[13:56:54] <payonel> i recall ppl
complaining about something something "you can't add to the
list of coroutines" with waitForAny
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L538[13:56:56] <payonel> or some
such
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L548[15:03:49] <ShrewdSpirit> hi
L549[15:05:52] <MalkContent_> hey
L550[15:05:55] <payonel> o/
L551[15:06:05] <MGR>
Hello
<MGR>
HelloL552[15:09:58]
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L553[15:11:44] <Inari> Temia: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/990619951/consentacle-a-card-game-of-human-alien-intimacy
?
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L555[15:14:13] <Temia> <.< oh
dear.
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L558[15:38:22] <payonel> i love this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxAoMaDvwk0
L559[15:38:23] <MichiBot> would your
husband say his more urban or rural | length: 1m 2s |
Likes: 106 Dislikes: 4 Views: 18,246 | by Eric Watters
| Published On 22/4/2009
L560[15:40:05] <Forecaster>
I hate that title
<Forecaster>
I hate that titleL561[15:57:45] <payonel> yeah so do
i
L562[15:57:55] <payonel> but it was better
than the "dumb blond" one of the same clip
L563[15:58:28] <Inari> It's odd what
people find pretty :p
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L568[16:22:59] <Zerray> hey guys, I got a
weird problem.. Everytime i call io.read() it instantly skip it,
any sugestions?
L569[16:24:46] <Zerray> its like something
is in the buffer from my previous io.read("*n")
L570[16:48:08] <payonel> Zerray: HI!
L571[16:48:17] <payonel> can you tell me
the openos version first?
L572[16:48:28] <payonel> then, can you
tell me what your stdin is?
L573[16:48:39] <payonel> lastly, do you
have a small repro?
L574[16:51:31] <payonel> also, what is
returned? nil or ""
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L576[16:55:24] <Zerray> thx for your time,
the return was like ~~~, i worked arround with term.read()
L577[16:58:37] <payonel> Zerray: i'm the
openos dev, so it is important to me to know what is going on for
you
L578[16:58:45] <payonel> you shouldn't
have to call term.read()
L579[16:59:28] <Zerray> oh! ok, give me 10
minutes then provide a pastebin with the problem
L580[16:59:36] <Zerray> I *
L581[16:59:36] <payonel> that would be
awesome, thanks!
L582[17:03:35] <Xilandro> Welp, shit, I
want phones in OC now
L583[17:06:35] <Vexatos> what for
L584[17:06:41] <Vexatos> you have
tablets
L585[17:08:43] <Xilandro> Well they'd
basically be cellphones. Wireless access points made into towers
would be cell towers basically, and everyone's 'number' and name
would be stored on a RAID in some sort of convoluted tablebase
setup
L586[17:10:06] <ben_mkiv> thought of some
gps like that
L587[17:10:14] <Michiyo> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/4yhmaw/the_four_second_rule/
q_q
L588[17:10:18] <ben_mkiv> which requires
you to fire satellits in the air xD
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L590[17:12:13] <Zerray> @ payonel https://pastebin.com/Fg5weWVL
L591[17:16:37] <payonel> Zerray: thanks!
i'll have a minute to review that soon
L592[17:28:13] <payonel> Zerray: good test
script
L593[17:28:20] <payonel> in fact, this
found a bug in term.read
L594[17:28:41] <payonel> term.read isn't
using the left over buffer on stdin as it should, as io.read is
correctly doing
L595[17:28:51] <Zerray> yeah on other
languages i would say the buffer still have something left
L596[17:29:10] <Zerray> but with
io.flush() its still in the buffer?
L597[17:31:01] <payonel> the io.read()
isn't skipped, it is returning an empty string, a left over
artifact of the "*n"
L598[17:31:08] <payonel> although, the
correct behavior would be to return \n
L599[17:31:15] <payonel> the *n is eating
that too, it shouldn't
L600[17:31:23] <payonel> Zerray:
io.flush() isn't about stdin, that is stdout
L601[17:31:40] <Zerray> oh... and how do I
clear the stdin buffer ? :)
L602[17:34:30] <payonel> something like a
c++ cin.ignore ?
L603[17:36:05] <Zerray> Iam not sure, my
skills are not that good using c# most of the time and there you
have no issues with artifacts in the buffer
L604[17:36:33] <Zerray> I want to read
something after the io.read("*n"), how would you do
that
L605[17:36:45] <payonel> there is much to
say here
L606[17:37:23] <payonel> so first of all,
io.read("*n") can also just be
io.read("n")
L607[17:37:48] <payonel> also, in your
pastebin, your printSomething function was global, make a practice
of making methods local
L608[17:38:06] <payonel> reading formatted
input is designed to interpret a stream
L609[17:38:21] <Zerray> so you mean local
function?
L610[17:38:28] <payonel> yes
L611[17:38:46] <payonel> in c#, you would
have the same problem if you were reading char by char of the input
and interpreting it
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L613[17:38:59] <payonel> in c#, you could
Console.ReadLine() and int.TryParse
L614[17:39:05] <payonel> you could do the
same here, but you're not
L615[17:39:07] <Zerray> yeah thats how i
do it^^
L616[17:39:11] <Zerray> oh
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L618[17:39:29] <payonel> you're leveraging
io.read("n") to interpret it for you, which stops reading
from the stream
L619[17:39:49] <payonel> something like
the c# example would have been
tonumber(io.read("n"))
L620[17:39:53] <payonel> derp
L621[17:39:56] <payonel>
tonumber(io.read())
L622[17:40:36] <payonel> another option
you have is to use io.read("n") and then you can throw
away the rest of the stdin buffer by:
io.read(io.stdin:size())
L623[17:40:40] <Zerray> ok I wrote that
down, Iam complete new at lua ^^
L624[17:41:13] <payonel> next thing i
would point out, if you enter an invalid input to your test, note
that it'd get loop locked
L625[17:41:31] <payonel> because the
io.read("n") would never see a number, it would leave the
invalid input on the buffer, and fail again to see a number
L626[17:41:48] <payonel> when using
interpreted input it is important to validate the result
L627[17:41:58] <payonel> i know it was
just an example, but i felt it was important to point that
out
L628[17:42:01] <Zerray> ah thats the
wiered flickering :P
L629[17:42:20] <payonel> next thing, when
reporting bugs it is important to get some of the error details
correct
L630[17:42:25] <Zerray> no that was great!
cause I didnt know how to prevent the wrong input thgere
L631[17:42:30] <payonel> io.read wasn't
being "skipped", it was returning an empty string,
""
L632[17:42:34] <payonel> that's an
important distinction
L633[17:43:12] <payonel> if you called
io.read() twice, the 2nd one would block for more input (the first
having eaten the buffer)
L634[17:43:47] <payonel>
io.read("n") will return nil if you don't support a
number at the start of the buffer
L635[17:45:22] <Zerray> allright, iam gona
change that in my programm, btw where is the difference of local
functions and global functions?
L636[17:46:51] <payonel> global (default)
affect your global environment
L637[17:47:04] <payonel> after running
your program, another program would see printCommand still
L638[17:47:07] <payonel> it remains
loaded
L639[17:48:09] <Zerray> oh I see, is there
an performence difference?
L640[17:49:17] <payonel> oh hm, real lua
throws away the newline, i wonder why i thought it didn't
L641[17:49:27] <payonel> no, just messy,
and wastes memory
L642[17:50:43] <payonel> Zerray: note that
io.stdin:size() is somewhat new. i dont think it is included in our
official releases, such as in ftb mod packs
L643[17:50:58] <payonel> we will be
pushing a new release this week
L644[17:51:03] <Zerray> Sorry if I waste
your time :p but i could ask you tons of stuff , iam not using my
own mod pack allways up to date
L645[17:51:21] <Zerray> iam not using a
mod pack*
L646[17:51:22] <payonel> Zerray: well the
latest openos is 1.6.8 as of this morning, 1.6.7 before that
L647[17:51:35] <payonel> you're not
wasting my time, helped me find a bug!
L648[17:51:45] <payonel> if this was a
waste of my time, i wouldn't be logged in
L649[17:53:17] <payonel> Zerray: when your
oc computer boots, what version of openos is displayed in the
prompt?
L650[17:53:21] <payonel> above* the
prompt
L651[17:54:05] <Zerray> 1.6.1
L652[17:54:19] <payonel> yeah, that's the
old one from the beginning of the year
L653[17:54:31] <payonel> what mc
version?
L654[17:54:44] <Zerray> hm there wasnt a
update notification so far :o
L655[17:54:48] <Zerray> 1.10.2
L656[17:55:04] <ben_mkiv> one day your
mods will update with windows update :P
L657[17:55:12] <payonel> you should
update, you'll find openos uses a LOT less memory and boots MUCH
faster, and screen text rendering is faster in many cases
L658[17:55:41] <payonel> Zerray: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.2.114-dev.jar
L659[17:55:46] <payonel> that'll have
openos 1.6.7
L660[17:55:55] <payonel> and you can check
http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/ again
for updates
L661[17:56:27] <Zerray> oh yeah Iam using
the latest "release" build
L662[17:57:50] <Zerray> uhm I changed all
my functions to local now it says "attempt to call gllobal
"functionbla" ( a nil value)
L663[17:59:45] <payonel> i would have to
see the code
L664[18:03:12] <payonel> Zerray: i got the
code thanks. what global function specifically is nil in the error
it prints?
L665[18:03:29] <Zerray>
loadDatabase()
L666[18:03:43] <Zerray> get called at line
512
L667[18:08:57] <payonel> back again, was
reading Michiyo's reddit link
L668[18:09:04] <payonel> Michiyo: tbh, the
OP sounds like a complete douche
L669[18:09:12] <payonel> seriously
L670[18:09:25] <Mimiru> yes... but dear
gods..
L671[18:09:52] <payonel> when you're
prototyping things it is normal to ignore errors and just get it
working
L672[18:09:58] <payonel> was it wrong in
this case? yes
L673[18:10:07] <payonel> but OP, honestly,
a prick
L674[18:10:56] <Temia> They all deserve
each other, clearly
L675[18:11:03] <payonel> haha
L676[18:11:05] <payonel> true
L677[18:15:37] <payonel> Zerray: i'm not
sure, try rebooting your [oc] computer :)
L678[18:16:10] <payonel> it LOOKS okay to
me, though to test it i had to comment out a bit as i dont have
those components available in my emulator
L679[18:16:35] <Zerray> hm maybe its the
old version causing problems :(
L680[18:16:42] <Zerray> Iam gona update it
tomorrow
L681[18:17:17] <payonel> old versions and
globals making your global env messy? yes, that's a thing
L682[18:17:34] <payonel> but nil, when
you've updated to define it local? that doesn't align
L683[18:17:42] <payonel> i tested making a
method global, then local
L684[18:17:52] <payonel> works just fine,
the code is loaded again anyways
L685[18:19:58] <Zerray> oh i found the
problem, its the same as in c++ the compiler doesnt find the
function if its declared below the actuall function
L686[18:20:12] <payonel> but the code you
gave me has it defined above
L687[18:20:47] <Zerray> yeah but the
Database function calls a function below, i moved it up now the
error is on another function
L688[18:21:39] <payonel> you said
loadDatabase was nil
L689[18:21:56] <payonel> that is defined
like on line 20-something, and called on 500 something
L690[18:21:58] <payonel> anyways
L691[18:22:54] <Zerray> oh I misstiped the
error in function "database" it tried to call a nill
function
L692[18:23:14] <Zerray> now I moved the
database function to the bottom and the programm runs again
>.<
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L704[19:09:05] <payonel> Zerray: btw, i
just tested term.read() after a io.read("n")
L705[19:09:12] <payonel> it DOES use the
remaining buffer :/
L706[19:10:32] <payonel> so when you said
it fixed things by using "term.read()" -- it didn't make
a difference
L707[19:10:45] <payonel> term.read works
exactly as it should. you must have changed other things
L708[19:10:55] <payonel> anyways, hope the
code is working out better for you
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L775[20:49:42] <Mimiru> %raw invite Mimiru
#michibot
L776[20:49:51] <Mimiru> ._.
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L778[20:58:00] <Xilandro> Has anyone seen
KaneHart
L779[20:58:04] <Xilandro> Or however he
put his name
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L782[21:29:10] <Xilandro> Son of a bitch I
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L785[21:56:46] <Izaya> Kane_Hart
IIRC
L786[22:03:34] <Xilandro> Not
registered
L787[22:03:55] <Izaya> not in
#computercraft?
L788[22:04:12] <Xilandro> Newp
L789[22:04:15] <Izaya> huh
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L795[23:06:22] <payonel> Mimiru: top notch
bug reporting: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2513
L796[23:19:17] <payonel> %logs
L797[23:19:17] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L798[23:25:27] <S3> My program works
:D
L799[23:25:32] <S3> 103749 COPPER
EXCHANGE
L800[23:25:32] <S3> 103 crown, 7 gold, 4
silver, 9 copper
L801[23:27:22] <Izaya> what does it
do
L802[23:28:08] <S3> it turns coin counts
into proper change
L803[23:28:14] <S3> I can also so
like
L804[23:28:18] <S3> 50 SILVER
EXCHANGE
L805[23:28:30] <S3> it would say 0 crown,
0 gold, 5 silver and 0 copper
L806[23:28:35] <S3> er
L807[23:28:41] <S3> 5 gold and 0 silver
:P
L808[23:29:14] <S3> 50 SILVER
EXCHANGE
L809[23:29:14] <S3> 0 crown, 5 gold, 0
silver, 0 copper
L810[23:29:45] <S3> https://pastebin.com/dXZxnqH0 <--- The program is
simple
L811[23:35:05] <Izaya> o.O
L812[23:35:15] <Izaya> what language is
that?
L813[23:35:56] <Izaya> (in other news,
syslog for PsychOS)
L814[23:36:22] <gamax92> kernel panic for
PsychOS when?
L815[23:36:29] <gamax92> need that magic
sysrq
L816[23:36:44] <Izaya> gamax92: short of
killing every process the kernel itself basically won't die
L817[23:36:47] <Izaya> it's too dumb to
fail