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L1[00:10:04] <logan2611> Neeee
L2[00:31:30] <Saphire> Reeeee?
L3[00:35:57] <Syrren> Saphire: at least the studio has prior art, providing some evidence against the No Man's Sky theory
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L7[00:54:21] <Saphire> Syrren: true
L8[00:54:45] <Saphire> http://imgur.com/gallery/kOpox what about this? o..o
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L13[02:39:47] <Syrren> Saphire: Looks awesome, although the hardcoded area vs projectile spell distinction is disappointing
L14[02:40:08] <Saphire> o..o
L15[02:40:10] <Saphire> WHAT
L16[02:40:18] <Saphire> :<
L17[02:41:38] <Syrren> As a lot of the comments stated -- look at Magicka.
L18[02:42:39] <Saphire> OH
L19[02:42:44] <Saphire> Derp, this
L20[02:42:50] <Syrren> in that game, any combination of elements can be cast as a directed attack (projectile, beam or cone depending on elements), as an area-of-effect attack around yourself or onto your sword
L21[02:43:08] <Saphire> Syrren: and then there are bombs
L22[02:43:16] <Syrren> that's elements
L23[02:43:28] <Saphire> Well, they are kinda an attack type
L24[02:43:40] <Syrren> they're an 'emergent' one, for lack of better terms
L25[02:43:52] <Saphire> ...wait, derp, that's just static AoE triggered on contact
L26[02:44:01] <Saphire> ...a non-moving AoE projectile?
L27[02:44:10] <Syrren> that's not what I'm referring to, lol
L28[02:44:35] <Syrren> for example, we can look at the Magicka approach as a 2D matrix of spells
L29[02:44:44] <Syrren> where one axis is the element combination, and the other is the way it's cast
L30[02:44:56] <Syrren> (i.e. directed, AoE or weapon)
L31[02:45:22] <Syrren> of course, there's patterns in the effects of certain elements -- iirc earth+arcane+X = bombs
L32[02:45:28] <Syrren> haven't played magicka in YEARS
L33[02:46:44] <Syrren> Saphire: get what I mean ^^ ?
L34[02:48:19] <Syrren> >>what happens if you only branch to one of the three corners, or two? Are the effects of the corners amplified if you choose less effects
L35[02:48:21] <Syrren> >Each effect is independent amplification
L36[02:48:22] <Syrren> ...
L37[02:48:26] <Syrren> such disappoint
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L39[03:17:28] <Noob> hey, i noticed that with latest version of OC (1.6.7 on 1.10.2) i cannot use world sensor card at all with GC4 installed. i simply cant insert it into any slot neither in PC or robot assembly GUI
L40[03:23:42] <Vexatos> I don't think it has been added back yet
L41[03:24:02] <Saphire> ...aww
L42[03:45:50] <Noob> not added back yet on the side of OC or GC?
L43[03:46:51] <Noob> also is there a list of changes that OC 1.7 gonna bring?
L44[03:46:57] <Patchi> good morning!
L45[03:47:25] <Lizzy> Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
L46[03:47:34] <Corded> * <Lizzy> snuggles vifino
L47[03:47:36] <Patchi> :WanPasu:
L48[03:47:44] <Patchi> oh wait, f
L49[03:47:52] <Patchi> o3o/
L50[04:03:12] <Noob> Vexatos: maybe you know?
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L85[05:10:48] <Izaya> huh, that's an interesting way to look at it
L86[05:11:05] <Izaya> Nintendo is the only company still making consoles, not just low-spec computers
L87[05:21:52] <Noob> you mean gaming tablets?
L88[05:22:29] <Noob> and that is not true
L89[05:22:45] <Noob> ps3 and xbox360 also were low spec computers
L90[05:22:52] <Noob> except they were PowerPC computers
L91[05:23:46] <Noob> and it was less pain in the ass to run Linux on powerpc for PS3 than it is to run Linux on PS4 despite being "almost a x86 computer"
L92[05:26:18] <g> the switch and DS aren't gaming tablets
L93[05:26:19] <g> lol
L94[05:26:33] <g> the switch doesn't even have a usable web browser
L95[05:31:22] <g> (also, nintendo didn't make the ps3 and xbox360 so I'm not sure how that statement is false)
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L102[05:46:10] <Skye> g, Noob, Izaya: the original Xbox was a low spec x86 PC
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L108[06:27:14] <Dustpuppy> hi
L109[06:27:32] <Inari> hi
L110[06:27:40] <Inari> How's your drawing going? :P
L111[06:27:44] <Inari> %pet Temia
L112[06:27:45] * MichiBot brushes Temia with a 36 core cpu. Temia recovers 4 health!
L113[06:27:53] <Dustpuppy> faster, but not fast enough
L114[06:27:59] <Inari> %inv list
L115[06:27:59] <MichiBot> Inari: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L116[06:28:11] <Inari> Fast drawing is the bane of OC ;)
L117[06:28:20] <Dustpuppy> i need to sort a 2d table and don't know how
L118[06:28:44] <Inari> By making it a 1d table
L119[06:32:28] <Dustpuppy> the table t = { {["bg"] = 5, ["fg"] = 1, ["ch"] = "x"} {["bg"] = 2, ["fg"] = 4, ["ch"] = "v"} } and so on. want to sort t by bg like t = { {["bg"] = 2, ["fg"] = 4, ["ch"] = "v"} {["bg"] = 5, ["fg"] = 1, ["ch"] = "x"} }
L120[06:32:44] <Dustpuppy> understandable?
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L122[06:39:37] <Inari> %lua t= { {val=9}, {val=2}. {val=5} } function compare(a,b) return a<b end table.sort(t, compare) for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v) end
L123[06:39:37] <MichiBot> main:1: '}' expected near '.'
L124[06:39:47] <Inari> %lua t= { {val=9}, {val=2}, {val=5} } function compare(a,b) return a<b end table.sort(t, compare) for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v) end
L125[06:39:47] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to compare two table values
L126[06:39:56] <Inari> %lua t= { {val=9}, {val=2}, {val=5} } function compare(a,b) return a.val<b.val end table.sort(t, compare) for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v) end
L127[06:39:56] <MichiBot> table: 0x7fc5f4005900 | table: 0x7fc5f4005970 | table: 0x7fc5f40058c0
L128[06:40:02] <Inari> %lua t= { {val=9}, {val=2}, {val=5} } function compare(a,b) return a.val<b.val end table.sort(t, compare) for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v.val) end
L129[06:40:02] <MichiBot> 2 | 5 | 9
L130[06:40:42] <Dustpuppy> cool :-) that will do the job. thanks
L131[06:43:49] <Skye> Dustpuppy, are you the person working on a GUI
L132[06:43:55] <Skye> ~w GPU
L133[06:43:55] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L134[06:44:03] <Dustpuppy> i am
L135[06:44:41] <Skye> Do you use GPU.copy when you can
L136[06:45:47] <Dustpuppy> gpu.copy can only copy inside the viewport and the viewport can't be bigger, then the max resolution. for background saving i have to work with buffers
L137[06:46:06] <Skye> Well... Do you use it for moving windows?
L138[06:46:54] <Dustpuppy> if i move a window, i gpu.copy a part of the window and then write the changed parts from buffer on screen
L139[06:47:13] <Skye> I see, makes sense.
L140[06:48:14] <Dustpuppy> like, if i move a window on x +1 then i gpu.copy from x to w -1 by +1 and write the first line from buffer
L141[06:49:24] <Dustpuppy> problem is, that i have to rewrite most of the lib now, because before i draw everything direct on screen
L142[06:49:38] <Dustpuppy> learning by doing ;-)
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L144[06:54:12] <Dustpuppy> grrr....saving background and a buffer for drawing of a full size 160x50 window and 2048k memory is not enough
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L146[06:56:06] <Dustpuppy> even if i only buffer the background and write the window instant on screen, i can only have one full size window
L147[06:56:37] <Dustpuppy> that mens, i have to use swap files
L148[06:57:21] <Dustpuppy> how fast is a hard drive compared to memory on oc?
L149[06:59:16] <Skye> Dustpuppy, really slow.
L150[06:59:49] <Inari> You'll also have the issue that you can't directly force CG :P You have to yield 10 times to be sure it's Gc'd
L151[06:59:59] * Skye pokes greaser|q (you're the person who did the crazy OC graphics demos right)
L152[07:07:20] <Inari> Dustpuppy: You can also reduce the size by using a single integer to store a character
L153[07:09:08] <Inari> Such so
L154[07:09:19] <Inari> 8 bits fro the char, 4 bits for the fg, 4 bits for the bg
L155[07:09:56] <Inari> Which in my tests reduces the used size from 1380 to 130
L156[07:10:29] <Dustpuppy> how do you get the size of a table?
L157[07:11:35] <Inari> I don't but in this lua instance there isn't much else and I have access to collectgarbage so I can just count the used memory
L158[07:11:46] <Temia> Dustpuppy: #var
L159[07:11:54] <Inari> Oh
L160[07:11:57] <Inari> I thought he meant the memory size
L161[07:12:39] <Temia> Memory size would be quite a bit of work to calculate anyway. .-.
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L164[07:31:24] <Dustpuppy> hmmm.... string.byte and string.char do not work with unicode characters. and the unicode lib has no way to get the number from a character
L165[07:35:50] <Vexatos> what about utf8.codepoint :I
L166[07:36:28] <Vexatos> blame payonel D:
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L168[07:41:14] <Inari> How can it be this much of a PITA to get some files from my phone to my PC ;-;
L169[07:42:10] <Izaya> plug it in and adb pull
L170[07:42:12] <Izaya> easiest method
L171[07:42:34] <Inari> Right, didn't try adb
L172[07:44:01] <Inari> Wooo it works \o/
L173[07:44:12] <Izaya> \o/
L174[07:44:14] <Inari> But seriously, why do I need android ebugging tools for this
L175[07:44:14] <Inari> ¬_¬
L176[07:44:21] <Izaya> I was actually helpful for once \o/
L177[07:44:40] <Izaya> because they don't let you run normal programs properly on Android
L178[07:45:00] <Izaya> if you could use gvfs and mount SMB shares on stock Android that'd be freaking wonderful
L179[07:45:08] <Inari> I mean
L180[07:45:19] <Inari> I'd be fine if the USB would show the actual sd card
L181[07:45:19] <Inari> :P
L182[07:45:30] <Izaya> oh yours doesn't do that?
L183[07:45:33] <Izaya> That's a pain >.>
L184[07:45:36] <Inari> It has some sdcard1 folder
L185[07:45:44] <Inari> But not sure where thats supposedly on the phone
L186[07:45:50] <Inari> It isn't /storage/sdcardaddr/
L187[07:45:59] <Izaya> yeah it's probably the internal emulated one
L188[07:46:58] <Izaya> on mine sdcard1 is the actual SD card https://i.imgur.com/2TUfSO8.png
L189[07:47:01] <g> USB devices use MTP anyway, which is just shit
L190[07:47:17] <g> should be phased out
L191[07:47:18] <g> :v
L192[07:47:18] <Inari> zWell yeah it shows sdcard1 and Internal Storage
L193[07:47:33] <Inari> but when I go to esfile explorer /storage/sdcardaddr I see different files than in that sdcard1
L194[07:47:50] <Izaya> MTP is pretty bad. I normally just use adb to transfer files so \o/
L195[07:48:00] <Izaya> Inari: yours must be weird then
L196[07:48:08] <Inari> Eh, it seems weird lately anyway
L197[07:48:12] <Inari> Thats why I'm updating the OS xD
L198[07:48:13] <Izaya> you could run a ssh server on it I guess
L199[07:48:18] <Izaya> termux is pretty solid for that stuff
L200[07:48:23] <Inari> Hm migth try
L201[07:48:28] <Izaya> kek updating the OS on mine seemed to make stuff worse
L202[07:48:35] <Inari> I tried ESFile's builtin ftp, but that didn't seem to let me access all the files
L203[07:48:48] <Izaya> android has been going downhill since 4.4
L204[07:48:58] <Izaya> in my opinion, anyway
L205[07:49:29] <Temia> Solid Explorer can do SMB and FTP without any problems, if you need alternatives.
L206[07:49:49] <Izaya> sanely and properly?
L207[07:49:58] <g> there are some apps that give you a web interface as well
L208[07:50:03] <g> though they're a bit hit and miss
L209[07:50:20] <Izaya> RIP
L210[07:50:20] <Inari> Yeah ES File Explorer seems terrible anyway :P
L211[07:50:25] <Izaya> no solid explorer on F-Droid
L212[07:50:26] <g> ES is pretty bad bundleware
L213[07:50:26] <Inari> Too many ads, "rate me", in-app unlocks
L214[07:50:46] <Izaya> ffs all I want is pcmanfm
L215[07:50:47] <Temia> aw. :c
L216[07:51:03] <Temia> If you can sideload, I can export my apk?
L217[07:51:06] <AshIndigo> I've been using ROM toolbox for its file manager, it does what I want
L218[07:51:11] <g> I use the Nextapp file explorer
L219[07:51:35] <Izaya> I can probably grab it using Yalp
L220[07:51:36] <Inari> You can also google the apk
L221[07:51:38] <g> it does pretty much everything that ES can
L222[07:51:46] <g> it supports extensions as well and it doesn't have ads or bundleware
L223[07:51:50] <Izaya> I'm just not a fan of having nonfree software on my phone
L224[07:52:17] <Izaya> ah, Solid Explorer depends on Google services anyway.
L225[07:52:50] <Temia> Oh, does it? Weird, I was using it on my Fire before I gave that away. .-.a
L226[07:54:04] <Dustpuppy> fuck....gpu.get didn't handle non ascii characters
L227[07:54:10] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/fhznlr.png
L228[08:00:09] <Inari> Dustpuppy: Why use gpu.get :s
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L230[08:00:40] <Dustpuppy> any other idea to get the background, before writing on screen?
L231[08:02:07] <Mimiru> Welp... forgot to /nick to my alt nicks, thankfully they weren't taken.. lol
L232[08:02:42] <Inari> What if they like being taken
L233[08:02:53] <Mimiru> Well, they are now.
L234[08:03:00] <Inari> L-lewd
L235[08:19:44] <Mimiru> %roll 1d20
L236[08:19:44] <MichiBot> Mimiru: [4]
L237[08:19:54] <Mimiru> Damn... I'm having shit luck with dice today.
L238[08:20:04] <AshIndigo> %roll 1d20
L239[08:20:05] <Mimiru> now that's 1,3,4,4,4.. lol
L240[08:20:05] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: [10]
L241[08:20:28] <S3> https://i.redd.it/ofzts9pg5mbz.jpg
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L246[08:54:13] <Skye> %roll 1d20
L247[08:54:14] <MichiBot> Skye: [6]
L248[09:09:58] * AshIndigo baps his pi
L249[09:11:47] <Inari> To restore a backup. uninstall whatsapp, then reinstall it and pick the restore backup option
L250[09:11:54] <Inari> Because offering an option in the app would have been too easy
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L254[09:36:55] <Dustpuppy> https://youtu.be/V7A_6yAgq6k fast enough? window is 20 widht and 10 height
L255[09:36:56] <MichiBot> mc | length: 4s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 View: 1 | by Stephan Kempa | Published On 26/7/2017
L256[09:40:46] <Dustpuppy> painted in a buffer and copied to screen. 20 windows under 1 second
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L265[11:00:32] <Michiyo> FFS
L266[11:00:33] <Michiyo> Fuck UPS.
L267[11:00:35] <Michiyo> Fuck 'em all.
L268[11:00:52] <Michiyo> Still haven't delivered a next day air early AM from last week.
L269[11:00:52] <Lizzy> what did uninterruptibal power supplies do to you?
L270[11:01:05] <Michiyo> and now they've mis routed one of my packages to a friend.
L271[11:01:18] <Syrren> at least it was misrouted to a friend though
L272[11:01:35] <Michiyo> ._.
L273[11:01:46] <Syrren> (so presumably you got the package in the end, rather than it disappearing forever)
L274[11:01:48] <Michiyo> I was sending a package to a friend, and they've mis routed it...
L275[11:01:51] <Syrren> oh
L276[11:02:00] <Syrren> I thought you meant a package you were meant to receive went to your friend instead
L277[11:02:07] <Michiyo> No
L278[11:02:09] * Syrren derp.gif
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L280[11:05:57] <Skye> Michiyo, isn't that, like, illegal?
L281[11:08:37] <Mimiru> Skye?
L282[11:08:45] <Skye> well
L283[11:08:53] <Skye> not delivering things?
L284[11:09:13] <Mimiru> You'd think so.
L285[11:09:42] <Mimiru> It's "lost"
L286[11:10:25] <Mimiru> $154 to next day early am it. And it never left the fucking depot after they picked it up from me
L287[11:11:07] <Mimiru> It was fucking tomatoes too... so not like it was high end electronics or something
L288[11:11:20] <Stary> wtf
L289[11:11:46] <Mimiru> Mine was the 3D bluray of Ghost in the Shell
L290[11:12:22] <Mimiru> Since I don't have a 3D tv and my friend in Oregon does I upsed it... and now I'm regretting it
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L292[11:19:52] <Inari> $154 of tomatoes?
L293[11:27:34] <Inari> Sooo
L294[11:27:39] <Inari> If I've like never touched python
L295[11:27:44] <Inari> Do I want 3.6.2 or 2.7.13
L296[11:28:06] <Michiyo> $154 to SHIP the tomatoes
L297[11:28:17] <Inari> Just how many tomatoes did you ship
L298[11:29:40] <Skye> Inari, 3.6.2
L299[11:29:47] <Inari> Okay
L300[11:29:53] <Inari> I just seemed to recall a lot of people disliing 3.x or so
L301[11:29:58] <Skye> 2 is deprecated
L302[11:30:06] <Skye> and will not receive updates past 2020
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L304[11:36:01] <Michiyo> Inari, A box? IDK how many were in it.
L305[11:36:26] <Inari> Must be a huge box
L306[11:36:34] <Michiyo> 10 lbs worth
L307[11:36:37] <Michiyo> it's next day AIR...
L308[11:36:40] <Michiyo> it costs a lot.
L309[11:37:03] <Inari> But .. why?
L310[11:37:09] <Michiyo> why.. what?
L311[11:37:14] <Michiyo> why does it cost a lot?
L312[11:37:18] <Inari> Why would you send 5kg of taomtoes for that much
L313[11:37:25] <Michiyo> because AIR...
L314[11:37:48] <Inari> I mean, does the location you send them to have no access to buy tomatoes or something
L315[11:37:51] <Michiyo> next day, early AM, Air. which means it gets to the destination by 8 AM.
L316[11:39:51] <Lizzy> Inari as skye said, 3.x is what you should aim for
L317[11:40:40] <Lizzy> 2 is deprecated and anyone claiming that it's better than 3 is delusional
L318[11:41:29] <Michiyo> 2 is da bomb!
L319[11:42:06] <Michiyo> Anyway, Inari IDK why they shipped them, I don't care why they shipped them..
L320[11:42:31] <Michiyo> all I know is they paid $154 for this box of tomatoes to get from here to there, the next day, before 8 am.
L321[11:42:37] <Michiyo> and it's been a week, and it's not there.
L322[11:53:30] <Michiyo> Oh.. awesome...
L323[11:53:35] <Michiyo> Just got a report they found the package.
L324[11:53:41] <Michiyo> In New Jersey.
L325[11:53:42] <Michiyo> Damaged.
L326[11:54:24] <Michiyo> Your package was damaged in transit. We will notify the sender with details. / All merchandise discarded. UPS will attempt to notify the sender with details of the damage
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L331[13:16:41] <Michiyo> huh.. so AE2 stable is out.
L332[13:17:08] <Michiyo> RV4-stable-1
L333[13:21:36] <CompanionCube> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/government/russia-passes-bill-banning-proxies-tor-and-vpns/
L334[13:31:41] <Vindex> Great
L335[13:36:07] <Skye> poor Saphire
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L339[13:46:31] <AshIndigo> D: poor saph
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L346[14:33:13] <Vexatos> Cruor made this :I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpG69OFd5dc
L347[14:33:14] <MichiBot> Computronics Soundcard - Midi and Iron Noteblock | length: 1m 29s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 4 | by Cruor AtMC | Published On 26/7/2017
L348[14:33:19] <Vexatos> is nice :⁾
L349[14:33:38] <Cruor> Cruor and nice in the same sentence?
L350[14:33:41] <Cruor> what is this
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L352[14:47:10] <Vexatos> magic
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L355[15:50:08] <Michiyo> I've made one sale today..
L356[15:50:10] <Michiyo> $2.18
L357[15:50:45] <Michiyo> it's hot as fuck in here... and ofc the boss is too damn cheap to get one of the AC shops to come look at the fucked up AC.. so he's waiting on a guy who does it on the side to come
L358[15:50:48] <Izaya> had a dream where I ended up on cthulhu's space ship and he was watching cheesy B-movie sci-fi
L359[15:50:48] <Michiyo> it's been 2 weeks.
L360[15:50:56] <Stary> :|
L361[15:51:21] <Michiyo> If I didn't REALLY need the money, I'd walk out.
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L368[17:01:59] <Guest94024> o/
L369[17:02:06] <Guest94024> blargh
L370[17:02:07] <Guest94024> whoami
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L372[17:02:27] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L373[17:02:31] <payonel> o/
L374[17:02:56] <Dustpuppy> payonel: did you made the unicode lib?
L375[17:03:08] <payonel> Dustpuppy: i did not
L376[17:03:14] <payonel> what's up?
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L378[17:03:17] <Dustpuppy> hmm....
L379[17:03:22] <Dustpuppy> who did it?
L380[17:03:24] <payonel> i've reimplemented it in c++ though
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L382[17:04:48] <payonel> Dustpuppy: i'm not sure - i would assume sangar, and he might have taken part of it from some source
L383[17:04:49] <payonel> why?
L384[17:05:46] <Dustpuppy> there's a function missing. to convert a character to his number
L385[17:06:18] <Inari> ~oc unicode
L386[17:06:18] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L387[17:06:59] <payonel> heh, yeah, i loop for that
L388[17:07:33] <Dustpuppy> num = string.byte(string.match(ch, "[\0-\x7F\xC2-\xF4][\x80-\xBF]*"))
L389[17:07:34] <payonel> Dustpuppy: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/blob/master/apis/unicode.cpp#L134
L390[17:08:19] <Vexatos> does OC have the utf8 lib?
L391[17:08:22] <Vexatos> on 5.4 >_>
L392[17:08:25] <Vexatos> 5.3*
L393[17:09:03] <Dustpuppy> then it's only missing on the wiki site ;-)
L394[17:09:34] <payonel> Dustpuppy: my link was to my c++ implementation of it
L395[17:09:37] <payonel> in my emulator
L396[17:09:38] <payonel> not in oc
L397[17:09:44] <Inari> Oh unicode is implemented in scala
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L399[17:20:36] <Dustpuppy> i'm still fighting to with speed while raising a window on top of all other windows......grrrrrr
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L402[18:02:50] <Inari> Wouldn't it be great if mosquitos sucked out fat instead of blood!
L403[18:10:10] <Dustpuppy> had millions of the bastards last week in front of the cottage. in the evening times all over place bats having a great diner. next day, no mosquito at all ;-)
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L423[22:04:12] <turbo_penguin> sorry if i'm spamming the chat, trying to figure out a minecraft integration plugin
L424[22:04:25] <turbo_penguin> tt
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L428[22:10:56] <Turbopenguin> test
L429[22:11:31] <Turbopenguin> oh good. that works.
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L432[22:51:45] <turbo_penguin> just discovered TPPI2. shame i didnt get to see it in its hayday.
L433[22:51:53] <turbo_penguin> half the integrations are broken.
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