L1[00:00:20] <gamax92> and then I'll
continue to not touch the code and instead figure out how to get a
fixed location physics body in love2d
L2[00:00:24] <turbopenguin> if it was a
project you loved, you would already be doing it. who am i to make
demands of your time.
L3[00:01:05] <gamax92> users create
motivation
L4[00:01:12] <turbopenguin> then fix it
damit
L5[00:01:16] <turbopenguin> lol
L6[00:02:23] <turbopenguin> to be honest, OC
is niche. OClights even more so. its a conundrum. i love the
program, but it would be a thankless task to port it. low user
adoption and all that.
L7[00:03:57] <turbopenguin> but thanks for
working on it in the first place. i'm still learning how to use it,
but its essential to my future project. perhaps one day i'll get
good enough to make a port myself.
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L26[05:00:54] <Vexatos> huh http://imgur.com/a/HYQxe
L27[05:02:02] <greaser|q> something
something OC is niche
L28[05:02:07] <greaser|q> i've just spend
the past few days in CC
L29[05:02:11] <greaser|q> and fuck that
shit
L30[05:02:17] <Vexatos> heh
L31[05:02:37] <greaser|q> if it's niche to
not completely shit over a perfectly good reference implementation
of an API then give me niche any day
L32[05:03:54] <greaser|q> also, managed to
write a program to basically do what everyone else is doing, but
better and w/o a central authority
L33[05:04:43] <greaser|q> i've yet to see
someone take what everyone else is doing to its logical conclusion,
which is pretty obvious as to what it is when you consider that
they're just sending lua code over rednet to be executed
L34[05:05:23] <greaser|q> anyhow i need
sleep, gnight
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L36[05:49:02] <turbopenguin> never said
niche was bad. :( just not mainstream or popular.
L37[05:50:54] <turbopenguin> i cant go back
to CC. i just wish we were not in the twilight zone for mods again.
its like the 1.4 days all over again.
L38[05:51:11] <g> It was going to happen
with the 1.8 changes
L39[05:51:25] <g> that said, 1.10.2 is very
playable at the moment, and there are lots of interesting mods for
1.12
L40[05:52:18] <turbopenguin> yea, its fully
featured to be sure. some of my faves wont port over. burnout on
the mod developer side. i'm sure i'll find new things to love, but
some of the old ones are irreplaceable for me.
L41[05:52:38] <g> Well, there is one
solution
L42[05:52:40] <g> Port them yourself
:P
L43[05:52:56] <turbopenguin> i'm still
learning lua. i dont want to tackle java just yet.
L44[05:53:20] <turbopenguin> truth is,
coding is only a two week old project for me. pick your battles and
all that.
L45[05:57:02] <g> Yeah, fair enough
L46[06:03:41] <turbopenguin> i've hit that
dumb part of the internet with funny memes
L47[07:03:33] <Izaya> greaser|q: ah, 1lann
and the other dude still at it?
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L53[07:54:11] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/vZPqYfP.png
L54[07:54:15] <Inari> Temia: http://i.imgur.com/fz0ETtD.png
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L56[08:06:39] <AmandaC> %choose a or
b
L57[08:06:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: a
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L62[08:36:36] <Inari> Make the world great
again. Let's make pangea :3
L63[08:39:54] <AmandaC> Inari: but then the
spiders and deadly snakes of australia will be able to finally take
over the world and bring about ragnorok
L64[08:40:16] 
<Forecaster>
but the americas would just shoot them with all the guns
<Forecaster>
but the americas would just shoot them with all the gunsL65[08:54:48] <Inari> payonel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcYabz3hYg
L66[08:54:49] <MichiBot> Sushi for
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L67[08:57:32] <Izaya> Forecaster: there
aren't enough guns in America
L68[08:57:50] <Izaya> besides, everyone
underestimates kangaroos
L69[08:58:01] <Izaya> they outnumber people
here like 2:1
L70[08:58:08] <Forecaster>
I'm fairly sure america has ∞ guns
<Forecaster>
I'm fairly sure america has ∞ gunsL71[09:06:13] <Izaya> Australia has
infinity+1 hostile animals
L72[09:06:41] <MGR>
@Forecaster Murika does have infinite guns
<MGR>
@Forecaster Murika does have infinite gunsL73[09:06:56] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XW-XdDe6j0 the cat
at 3:13 xD
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L75[09:07:01] <Inari> "What is this
black magic, human?"
L76[09:07:37] <Izaya> MGR, you pay
attention, is Intel still better at single-core but AMD still
better at multi-core?
L77[09:12:07] <Izaya> https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=3707 unrelated,
aside from the whole 'thin' thing, this seems like a nice
laptop
L78[09:12:54] <Izaya> wonder if that CPU is
better than an Atom N270...
L79[09:13:26] <Izaya> lower clock speed but
4 cores and 64-bit...
L80[09:13:49] <g> at 1.2GHz you won't be
doing much on that, regardless of the core count
L81[09:13:58] <g> multiple cores are great,
but almost nothing really takes advantage
L82[09:14:35] <Izaya> if you were running a
browser that uses one thread per tab that'd be decent
L83[09:14:58] <g> well, no
L84[09:15:05] <Izaya> 'course then you run
out of memory
L85[09:15:08] <Izaya> because 2GB
L86[09:15:13] <g> most browsers that do
that have a core process, one per tab, at least one for
extensions...
L87[09:15:47] <Izaya> oh right browsers are
totally fucked
L88[09:15:59] <Izaya> I wonder if
qutebrowser is okay on that front
L89[09:16:02] <MGR> Izaya,
which AMD processor?
<MGR> Izaya,
which AMD processor?L90[09:16:07] <g> I like the 0.3mp front
camera
L91[09:16:13] <g> might as well have not
added one and saved $5 lol
L92[09:16:23] <Izaya> MGR, recent, not
specific though
L93[09:16:37] <Izaya> yeah the camera is
silly
L94[09:16:46] <MGR> Well,
the playing field is pretty different depending on whether you mean
Bristol Ridge or Ryzen/Threadripper/Epyc
<MGR> Well,
the playing field is pretty different depending on whether you mean
Bristol Ridge or Ryzen/Threadripper/EpycL95[09:16:52] <Izaya> personally I'd remove
it anyway bur \o/
L96[09:17:27] <Izaya> MGR, whatever family
compared to their intel equivalent
L97[09:17:30] <MGR> Intel
vs Bristol Ridge (7th Gen APUs A6/8/10/12) Intel wins single thread
by 50% IPC, but AMD usually has higher clocks, so like 30%
difference maybe, depends on the exact task
<MGR> Intel
vs Bristol Ridge (7th Gen APUs A6/8/10/12) Intel wins single thread
by 50% IPC, but AMD usually has higher clocks, so like 30%
difference maybe, depends on the exact taskL98[09:17:48] <MGR> Intel
vs Ryzen/Threadrippper/Epyc is a 5-15% IPC difference and similar
clocks
<MGR> Intel
vs Ryzen/Threadrippper/Epyc is a 5-15% IPC difference and similar
clocksL99[09:18:05] <Izaya> I'd personally want
to see what I could fit in all the empty case space
L100[09:18:10] <MGR> With
possible exception of Threadripper 1950X vs i9-7960X
<MGR> With
possible exception of Threadripper 1950X vs i9-7960XL101[09:18:22] <Izaya> too bad the board
doesn't have SATA
L102[09:18:35] <MGR>
Because it's old?
<MGR>
Because it's old?L103[09:18:48] <Izaya> not old, just an
ARM SBC
L104[09:18:50] <g> might as well go rock64
and tape a battery and touchscreen to it
L105[09:18:53] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL106[09:20:10] <Izaya>
>touchscreen
L107[09:20:14] <Izaya> no thanks
L108[09:20:52] <g> someone has sticky
fingers...
L109[09:21:21] <MGR> Izaya,
AMD also has subsidiary advantages over Intel, including
price
<MGR> Izaya,
AMD also has subsidiary advantages over Intel, including
priceL110[09:21:51] <MGR> But if
single-threading is your game, and money isn't too much of an
object, Intel can't be beat right now
<MGR> But if
single-threading is your game, and money isn't too much of an
object, Intel can't be beat right nowL111[09:22:28] <Izaya> mm, figured that
was still the deal
L112[09:22:40] <Izaya> g: of course it's
still not Free so :/
L113[09:23:53] <Izaya> guess I'm not
upgrading any of my stuff till either POWER is affordable for me or
RISC-V is practical
L114[09:24:10] <MGR> Why
not?
<MGR> Why
not?L115[09:25:31] <Izaya> Because I see no
reason to upgrade to something that is hostile to me
L116[09:25:49] <MGR>
Meh
<MGR>
MehL117[09:26:14] <Izaya> yup.
L118[09:26:27] <MGR>
Meeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh
<MGR>
MeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhL119[09:26:31] <Izaya> Maybe now that
POWER9 is a thing POWER8 stuff will get cheaper
L120[09:28:20] <g> hostile?
L121[09:28:32] <MGR> g,
don't ask
<MGR> g,
don't askL122[09:28:35] <MGR> It's a
bad time
<MGR> It's a
bad timeL123[09:28:37] <Izaya> Intel ME, AMD PSP,
etc.
L124[09:28:43] <MGR>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
<MGR>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻L125[09:28:49] <g> I don't know of those
things
L126[09:28:55] <MGR> Don't
ask
<MGR> Don't
askL127[09:29:04] <Izaya> Basically hardware
backdoors.
L128[09:29:09] <g> Oh, right
L129[09:29:16] <g> I have heard of
that..
L130[09:29:36] <Izaya> There was actually
an ME exploit recently
L131[09:29:45] <g> I remember, yeah
L132[09:29:53] <g> I think I posted about
it in here
L133[09:46:38] <AmandaC> Izaya: yeah, but
look on the bright side, since it's already got a backdoor, Intel
could patch it for you over the internet!
L134[09:47:25] <g> I'm still kind of
curious what such a backdoor entails
L135[09:48:21] <AmandaC> g: I'm not
convinced it's as bad as people make it out to be, or you'd have
companies like Google / Apple / Microsoft raising hell about
it.
L136[09:48:31] <g> yeah, that's what I
thought
L137[09:48:38] <g> I was like "anyone
can do firmware upgrades"
L138[09:51:40] <AmandaC> g: I think it's
just a strawman about the whole binary-blob thing in the linux
community, tbh
L139[09:52:19] <g> the whole binary-blob
thing?
L140[09:53:12] <AmandaC> g: big point of
contention in OSS circles, when the driver is open source
partially, but firmware to run the wifi / bt / etc requires a blob
of bytecode for the device that the source for is unavailable
L141[09:53:36] <AmandaC> Intel ME is part
of that same kind of firmware blob, I gather.
L142[09:53:51] <g> oh, right
L143[09:53:56] <g> the usual GNU
envangelism then
L144[09:54:06] <AmandaC> indeed
L145[09:54:42] *
Temia stares at the Arch wiki list of e-mail clients. flops.
=.=
L146[09:55:07] <AmandaC> Personally, I'd
rather have a binary blob than no support at all, and this is the
position a lot of the linux kernel maintainers have taken up as
well.
L147[09:55:37] <Temia> I should pick out
something again. Probably something with support for a local
storage format so I can just retrieve everything and filter, back
up, etc. myself.
L148[09:55:57] <g> Yeah, I'd rather have
the something as well
L149[09:56:13] <g> I can't imagine living
in a position where I refused to use anything closed-source
L150[09:56:14] <g> lol
L151[09:56:39] <Temia> Maybe a local
mailserver so I can access it over VPN if needed...
L152[09:57:09] *
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decisions.
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L154[10:02:28] <Temia> ...I think I should
worry more about the interference this old stereo is
causing,.
L155[10:02:41] <Temia> Enough to cause a
digital display to lose sync or get knocked out altogether when I
switch it on or off.
L156[10:09:19] <g> magnets
L157[10:10:17] <Temia> Yes.
L158[10:10:29] <Temia> Needless to say,
the amount of EM interference this puts out is concerning.
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L163[10:40:25] <Forecaster> enough to
become a super villain?
L164[10:41:22] <Temia> No.
L165[10:41:26] <Forecaster> darn
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L167[10:49:37] <gamax92> evil Temia
L168[10:49:50] <Temia> '^'?
L169[10:50:03] <Inari> %pet Temia
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L171[10:50:14] <Inari> :<
L172[10:50:15] <Dustpuppy> hi
L173[10:50:18] *
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health!
L174[10:50:22] <Inari> Ah there we
go
L175[10:50:26] *
Temia mu. =w=
L176[10:50:43] <Inari> How my favourite
cow.... minotaur girl doing?
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L178[10:51:18] <gamax92> r.i.p flint
L179[10:51:52] <Temia> Groggy. Getting
kind of tired of the constant troubleshooting.
L180[10:52:37] <gamax92> has that vm koth
thing been brought up here?
L181[10:52:50] <Temia> Hm?
L182[10:53:55] <gamax92> if not, then VM
King of the Hill! you have a windows vm where you can upload any
exe for it to run, your goal is to display a QR code where it'll
scan the screen and give you points
L183[10:54:04] <gamax92> http://koth.jrwr.io/
L184[10:55:13] <Temia> I see.
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L186[11:16:00] <payonel> o/
L187[11:16:13] *
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L188[11:21:25] <payonel> Inari: ^.^
L189[11:30:08] <Inari> Ohi
L190[11:30:39] <MGR> Hello
payonel, how are you?
<MGR> Hello
payonel, how are you?L191[11:31:34] <payonel> i'm doing well.
i'm actually playing a mc world currently
L192[11:32:06] <MGR> Sounds
nice
<MGR> Sounds
niceL193[11:32:59]
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L194[11:34:49] <payonel> enjoying refined
storage, and i have a nice sphax texture for it. and i found an OC
patch for sphax for 1.10.2
L195[11:35:09] <MGR> Sphax
is a resource pack?
<MGR> Sphax
is a resource pack?L196[11:35:12] <payonel> i'm using extra
utils culinary generators for power, running on potatoes
L197[11:35:18] <payonel> so i'll havea
potato powered computer
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L200[11:38:14] <MGR>
Payonel, what's the fastest way to update OpenOS on a
computer?
<MGR>
Payonel, what's the fastest way to update OpenOS on a
computer?L201[11:38:55] <payonel> update the jar,
craft a new openos floppy, run install
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L204[11:39:25] <MGR> Thank
you
<MGR> Thank
youL205[11:41:12] <gamax92> payonel, whats
the fastest way to make easy money quick?
L206[11:42:03] <MGR> An
interesting project I could do is write a program that
automatically checks for OpenOS updates and downloads them...
<MGR> An
interesting project I could do is write a program that
automatically checks for OpenOS updates and downloads them...L207[11:42:11] <Forecaster> sell your
organs
L208[11:42:20] <Forecaster> or other
peoples organs
L209[11:42:44] <payonel> gamax92: :)
probably work a day as a temp for a housing construction
group
L210[11:43:36] <MGR>
payonel, is there a way of telling an operating system's
version?
<MGR>
payonel, is there a way of telling an operating system's
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L212[11:47:32] <payonel> _OSVERSION
L213[11:47:49] <MGR> That's
a global variable, correct?
<MGR> That's
a global variable, correct?L214[11:49:35] <payonel> yes it is,
_G._OSVERSION
L215[11:49:42] <MGR> Thank
you good sir
<MGR> Thank
you good sirL216[11:50:02] <payonel> i have been
updating that value somewhat regularly
L217[11:50:06] <gamax92> lol, people
trying to make a gaming channel when they have an Athlon processor
and a GT 430.
L218[11:50:08] <payonel> but it does not
change with every commit
L219[11:50:31] <MGR> Ah ok,
good to keep in mind for me
<MGR> Ah ok,
good to keep in mind for meL220[11:50:41] <Syrren> payonel: why not
generate it with git describe?
L221[11:50:45] <MGR>
gamax92, that's a terrible idea, and they are terrible
<MGR>
gamax92, that's a terrible idea, and they are terribleL222[11:51:54] <gamax92> git gud
L223[11:52:25] <payonel> i change it for
significant code changes, to help me quickly pinpoint/trace bug
reports
L224[11:52:54] <MGR> E=mc2,
Errors = more code squared
<MGR> E=mc2,
Errors = more code squaredL225[11:53:35] <payonel> Syrren: because i
dont need it to be that accurate. if the _OSVERSION isn't
sufficient, the jar build number is
L226[11:55:17] <Syrren> @MGR: was that
meant to be a superscript 2? it's showing up as a normal 2 in
IRC
L227[11:55:32] <Syrren> payonel: makes
sense
L228[11:55:51] <MGR>
Syrren, it's meant to be, but I didn't type it as one, because I
didn't know how to do that in Discord
<MGR>
Syrren, it's meant to be, but I didn't type it as one, because I
didn't know how to do that in DiscordL229[11:55:58] <MGR> Or
IRC
<MGR> Or
IRCL230[11:56:21] <Syrren> E=mc²
L231[11:56:24] <Syrren> unicode
superscript 2
L232[11:56:31] <Syrren> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/b2/index.htm
L233[11:56:49] <MGR> Thank
you
<MGR> Thank
youL234[11:56:54] <payonel> 208n is subscript
for n, do you know super off hand?
L235[11:57:06] <Syrren> nah, I just
googled
L236[11:57:13] <Cruor> hexchat just lets
you... ^ + thing .-.
L237[11:57:20] <Syrren> there's also the
compose key, if you're on linux
L238[11:57:22] <Cruor> ¹²³⁴⁵⁽⁾⁻
L239[11:57:39] <Syrren> e.g. Compose + ^ +
2 = ²
L240[11:57:48] <Vexatos> payonel, I know
some unicode by hand
L241[11:57:51] <Syrren> Compose + _ + 2 =
₂
L242[11:57:55] <Syrren> etc.
L243[11:57:56] <Vexatos> Because
ctrl+shift+u
L244[11:58:00] <Vexatos> for unicode input
mode :I
L245[11:58:04] <payonel> i use
ctrl+shift+u
L246[11:58:08] <gamax92> ctrl-shift-u
doesn't work here
L247[11:58:12] <Vexatos> But I also use
the compose key
L248[11:58:20] <gamax92> 爿
L249[11:58:21] <payonel> what is this
compose key you all speak of :/
L250[11:58:27] <Vexatos> Compose + _ +
number -> ₁
L251[11:58:27] <gamax92> you don't have a
compose key?
L252[11:58:30] <Syrren> the Compose key is
an antique UNIX thing
L253[11:58:37] <Vexatos> you hit
compose
L254[11:58:39] *
payonel looks blankly at his keyboard
L255[11:58:40] <Vexatos> and then two or
three characters
L256[11:58:42] <Syrren> Sun keyboards have
an actual separate key for it
L257[11:58:42] <Vexatos> to merge
them
L258[11:58:47] <Vexatos> e.g.
L259[11:58:56] <Vexatos> Compose + "
+ e -> ë
L260[11:59:02] <Syrren> for modern
keyboards, you can use 'setxkbmap' to assign a useless key (say,
capslock) to be compose
L261[11:59:12] <Vexatos> payonel, which OS
are you using
L262[11:59:33] <AmandaC> I should assign
the menu key to be compose...
L263[11:59:34] <payonel> ubuntu
L264[11:59:36] <Vexatos> on ubuntu and
mint, there is a setting for it in your keyboard settings
L265[11:59:47] <Vexatos> to assign compose
to, say, I assigned it to my right windows key
L266[11:59:53] <Vexatos> On Mint
L267[11:59:58] <Vexatos> But I know Ubuntu
has it too
L268[12:00:06] <Vexatos> (why are you
using ubuntu, get out)
L269[12:00:14] <Syrren> (arch linux master
race?)
L270[12:00:22] <payonel> well it's either
gentoo or ubuntu - and - i'm on my work laptop
L271[12:00:38] <payonel> which is a custom
ubuntu-image
L272[12:00:51] <Vexatos> payonel, there is
no reason to choose ubuntu over mint ._.
L273[12:01:03] <Vexatos> Join the glorious
mint masterrace
L274[12:01:14] <payonel> that's not really
a choice in this context
L275[12:01:32] <payonel> i can choose a
custom windows image, ubuntu image, or mac image
L276[12:01:37] <payonel> that is all
L277[12:02:01] <Vexatos> ,_,
L278[12:02:03] <Vexatos> but why
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L280[12:02:10] <Vexatos> why is it not an
option >_>
L281[12:02:18] <Syrren> because work
L282[12:02:22] <Syrren> at least he HAS
OPTIONS
L283[12:02:27] <Syrren> that's amazing
already
L284[12:02:31] <Vexatos> but every ubuntu
program ever also runs on mint :I
L285[12:02:38] *
Syrren has to use Win10 for work
L286[12:02:53] <gamax92> Vexatos: reason:
mint is lts based and can grow outdated
L287[12:03:22] <AmandaC> ™ Yay
L288[12:03:43] <gamax92> AmandaC™
L289[12:04:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, if you
want up-to-date you wouldn't choose ubuntu either
L290[12:04:57] <gamax92> more up to date
than mint
L291[12:05:22] <Syrren> AmandaC: full list
of sequences /usr/share/X11/locale/$YOUR_LOCALE/Compose
L292[12:05:47] <AmandaC> Syrren: possibly,
possibly not. I'm under wayland
L293[12:06:02] <Syrren> ...Ah.
L294[12:06:04] <AmandaC> Last I heard what
wayland uses was a hard-cded list
L295[12:06:12] <Syrren> >hard-coded list
L296[12:06:18] *
Syrren whispers 'heresy"
L297[12:06:21] <Syrren> s/'/"/
L298[12:06:21] <gamax92> wayland on what
thuogh
L299[12:06:30] <AmandaC> openSUSE
TUmbleweed
L300[12:06:44] <gamax92> but what's that
on?
L301[12:07:06] <AmandaC> a System76
laptop
L302[12:07:24] <Vexatos> wayland on
mint
L303[12:07:25] <Vexatos> the dream
L304[12:07:32] <gamax92> wayland on nvidia
blob
L305[12:07:39] *
Vexatos waits for Mint 26 released in 2044
L306[12:07:48] <Vexatos> built against
Ubtuntu 21.5
L307[12:07:54] <AmandaC> oh, that's what
you meant.
L308[12:08:10] <AmandaC> intel integrated
gpu
L309[12:08:25] <AmandaC> No dedicated
graphics card.
L310[12:08:43] *
gamax92 vague
L311[12:11:33] <Syrren> AmandaC: try
compose + < + 3
L312[12:12:00] <AmandaC> Syrren:
works
L313[12:12:09] <Syrren> ♥
L314[12:12:33] <AmandaC> I uses to have a
custom XKeyboard compose file for all kinda of amusing stuff
L315[12:12:46] <AmandaC>
s/uses/used/
L316[12:13:02] <Syrren> heh.
L317[12:13:16] <Syrren> that kind of thing
is why I'm steering clear of Wayland for now
L318[12:13:41] <Syrren> my tricked-out i3
config won't work nearly as well
L319[12:14:47] *
AmandaC is using GNOME Shell, doesn't enjoy tinkering with stuff
that much
L320[12:14:59] <Syrren> I have to ask,
have you ever used GNOME 2?
L321[12:15:06] <Syrren> (or it's close
relatives)
L322[12:15:12] <AmandaC> In the long long
ago, yes.
L323[12:15:30] <AmandaC> I was around for
when the GNOME 3 transition happen
L324[12:15:32] <Syrren> ah, so you know
what you lost, then
L325[12:15:40] <AmandaC> I don't see it
that way.
L326[12:16:21] <AmandaC> I like shiny
pretty things more than I like a control board full of knobs and
dials and buttons to tweak.
L327[12:16:29] <Syrren> I can understand
that.
L328[12:17:47] <Syrren> AmandaC: have you
tried any of those Mac-like WMs? There's Enlightenment and a few
others I don't remember the names of
L329[12:18:32] <AmandaC> Syrren: I used a
mac for the better part of the last 2-3 years. :P
L330[12:19:13] <Syrren> I'm not surprised,
given your stated preferences
L331[12:19:18] <AmandaC> I'm just coming
back to linux as it became increasingly apparent that my interests
lie in stuff that's either much easier to build on linux, or only
possible to build on linux. (Embedded linux stuff, docker stuff
)
L332[12:20:02] <AmandaC> And the
realisation that soon the kill switch will probably activate, and I
can't afford 3000$ to replace the mac I was gifted.
L333[12:20:31] <MGR> Build
a PC
<MGR> Build
a PCL334[12:20:44] <Syrren> >kill switch
L335[12:20:46] <Syrren> wha?
L336[12:21:16] <AmandaC> Syrren: hypobole
about how apple products seem to get suddenly much slower when
after a couple of generations superceed it.
L337[12:21:17] <Syrren> oh. I guess you're
referring to a planned-obsolecense policy
L338[12:21:45] <Syrren> for a second there
I interpreted your choice of words as you being 100% sure of an
actual kill switch
L339[12:21:59] <AmandaC> haha, nah
L340[12:22:10] <payonel> %logs
L341[12:22:10] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L342[12:22:16] <AmandaC> Apple may be a
cash-hungry company, they're not that stupid to do it. :P
L343[12:22:22] <Syrren> :P
L344[12:23:10] <AmandaC> Honestly, a large
part of what made me decide to get a system76 was it'd be much less
likely my OS will be getting cluttered up by APIs and programs and
features I, as an Android user, can't make any use of.
L345[12:23:11] <payonel> woah i've been
disconnected for a long time
L346[12:23:17] <payonel> meh
L347[12:23:21] <payonel> nothing i said is
that important
L348[12:24:08] <Syrren> random funny from
freenode#mosh http://bpaste.net/show/66118bcdd12b
L349[12:26:29] <Forecaster> hehe
L350[12:26:51] <Syrren> should've used a
cat-playing-piano gif instead
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L360[14:54:59] <AmandaC> CRICKETS.TIFF
MISSING
L361[14:55:10] <AmandaC> %choose lay down
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L362[14:55:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: lay
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L365[14:57:52] <MichiBot> gamax92: lay
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L370[15:40:09] <Michiyo> MichiBot, you
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L371[15:40:14] <Michiyo> %p
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L375[15:41:31] <Forecaster> oO
L376[15:41:38] <Forecaster> MichiBot is
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L377[15:51:08] <gamax92> 'Here's your damn
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L391[16:22:39] <Michi> So, gamax92 til...
Athena isn't on the auto start list.
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L393[16:22:47] <Michi> or, if it is it's
delayed, a bunch.
L394[16:24:58] <Michi> fucking updates are
slow.
L395[16:28:02] <Dustpuppy> fucking setting
50x160 single character with background and forground colors is
slow
L396[16:28:10] <Dustpuppy> test
L397[16:28:28] <Dustpuppy> ups...wrong
window :-)
L398[16:30:12] <Michi> well, good news is
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L399[16:30:46] <Michi> just gotta wait til
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L413[16:53:04] <CompanionCube> Syrren:
Enlightenment's a Mac-like WM?
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L416[17:09:54] <Dustpuppy> someone an
idea, how i could draw a buffer with foreground and background
colors and a character fast on screen? gpu.set is fucking slow with
50x160 single characters
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L418[17:16:56] <Inari> Dustpuppy: Optimize
the drawing :D
L419[17:17:05] <Dustpuppy> hahaha
L420[17:17:38] <Inari> What :P
L421[17:17:50] <Dustpuppy> i am drawing
into a buffer. that's fast enough. but drawing the buffer to screen
is fucking slow
L422[17:18:01] <Inari> Like once you set
the colours draw all pixels of the same colour
L423[17:18:12] <Inari> That way you have
the least set colour calls
L424[17:18:21] <Inari> Draw boxes where
possible instead of single calls
L425[17:18:30] <Inari> And yes thats my
point, optimize the drawing XD
L426[17:19:08] <Dustpuppy> the buffer is
like {["bg"] = background, ["fg"] = foreground,
["character"] = character}
L427[17:19:19] <Inari> It doesn't matter
what the buffer is D:
L428[17:19:22] <Dustpuppy> every charater
can have his own color
L429[17:19:29] <Inari> Yes
L430[17:19:33] <Inari> and theres bound to
be ones of the same colours
L431[17:19:39] <Inari> Unles you're
drawing a magical rainbow
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L435[17:23:11] <Dustpuppy> ok,much faster,
but still slow
L436[17:25:04] <Dustpuppy> i compare old
colors with new colors and set them only, if they are different
now. makes it much faster, but the gpu.set of 38x114 characters is
still too slow
L437[17:28:06] <Inari> Yeah and reducing
the calls to set colour stuff also speeds it up
L438[17:29:52] <Dustpuppy> that's the
drawing function https://pastebin.com/2e6D3xqP
L439[17:30:23] <Dustpuppy> no idea, where
and how i could make it faster
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L441[17:36:16] <Inari> Well as I said,
reducing the calls to setforeground/setbackground
L442[17:37:21] <Inari> If you have 20
charactesr with a white foreground and black background, set it to
those and draw those 20 cahracters
L443[17:37:48] <Dustpuppy> 2 color
changes, so 2 times set only the forground color, but it still
needs more then a second to draw a 38x114 area
L444[17:38:24] <Inari> Yeah, it isn't
super fast :P If theres a lot of the same character you can try to
draw those with a fill call instead
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L453[18:51:46] <Dustpuppy> could gpu.copy
not copy overlapped?
L454[18:52:02] <Dustpuppy> like gpu.copy(x
+ 1, y, w - 1, h, x, y)
L455[18:52:28] <Dustpuppy> just move the
selected area 1 to left
L456[19:17:19] <Dustpuppy> it's ok. my
fault. missunderstood gpu.copy
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L458[19:39:12] <Mimiru> I have NO idea
what to nuke to get Let's Encrypt working again ._.
L459[19:43:57] <Mimiru> Or...
L460[19:44:00] <Mimiru> I have to do
nothing
L461[19:44:03] <Mimiru> cause it 's
working fine now
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L463[19:48:16] <DaMachinator> discord changed their
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<DaMachinator> discord changed their
ToSL464[19:53:05] <CompanionCube> anything of
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L472[20:38:47] <Syrren> CompanionCube: it
sure looked the part last time I poked at it (a few years
ago)
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L481[22:47:46] <Saphire>
EEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L482[22:47:53] <Saphire> http://noitagame.com/
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L484[23:19:00] <Syrren> Saphire: ...but
it's not even early-access yet :<
L485[23:23:25] <Saphire> Syrren: shhh,
don't scare it
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