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L1[00:09:56] <gamax92> okay then ... some commands can't be found while others in the same directory can be.
L2[00:15:56] <gamax92> this shell is not bash.
L3[00:18:09] <gamax92> vi D:
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L6[00:32:03] <gamax92> crap I might have to install a 32bit version of FreeBSD
L7[00:39:18] <gamax92> eaugh, libm is missing log2
L8[00:40:08] <gamax92> log is there, same with log10
L9[01:04:59] <gamax92> dammit, one symbol from FBSD_1.3
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L12[01:47:29] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/uUk4ir3eXQQx_10800.jpg
L13[02:19:20] <Vindex> You were a subscriber, apparently
L14[02:19:39] <Vindex> I was also, also magazine
L15[02:20:45] <Vindex> But I've threw those away, as reading about games released during 2000-2003 gets old in few years
L16[02:22:56] <Vindex> s/threw/thrown/
L17[02:22:57] <MichiBot> <Vindex> But I've thrown those away, as reading about games released during 2000-2003 gets old in few years
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L19[03:31:07] <Izaya> not a subscriber
L20[03:31:30] <Izaya> was given those
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L22[03:43:40] <Vexatos> I have about fifty issues of National Geographic and ~25 to 30 PM History magazines ._.
L23[03:44:02] <Vexatos> The latter are really interesting but I rarely get to read one :I
L24[03:46:06] <g> I have the entire set of horrible histories magazines from when I was a kid somewhere
L25[03:46:15] <vifino> Izaya: Sort them. :V
L26[03:46:54] <Izaya> vifino: planned
L27[03:47:55] <vifino> gamax92: I am running FreeBSD 11-RELEASE right now, need anything?
L28[03:48:25] <Vexatos> PM History is actually really interesting
L29[03:48:51] <Vexatos> I was subscribed to it for two consecutive years as two birthday presents from my godmother
L30[03:49:12] <Vexatos> There's stuff in them you never knew you wanted to know
L31[03:52:58] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> snuggles vifino
L32[04:57:13] <Vindex> Vexatos: PM is project management?
L33[04:57:25] <Vexatos> almost
L34[04:57:51] <Vexatos> Peter Moosleitner :P
L35[05:03:00] <Vindex> Oh
L36[05:27:33] <Temia> Moooo 'o'
L37[05:46:38] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> pets temia
L38[05:49:23] * Temia leans and tailswishes contentedly =w=
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L41[06:23:13] <Skye> %p
L42[06:23:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 12.61s
L43[06:43:58] <Skye> %p
L44[06:44:05] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 5.39s
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L47[08:29:57] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
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L49[08:46:29] <LizzyTheKitty> :3
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L51[08:58:45] <Kris> hi guys :)
L52[08:58:59] <AshIndigo> %hello
L53[08:58:59] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L54[08:59:23] <Kris> does OpenComputer support "Refined Storage"?
L55[09:00:29] <g> I think refined storage supports opencomputers
L56[09:00:33] <g> you might need computronics, not sure
L57[09:01:15] <Kris> i have computronics to, but i can't find anything online saying it supports Refinde Storage :/
L58[09:01:30] <g> Have you tried it?
L59[09:02:02] <Kris> well not yet cause im used to ComputerCraft and it didn't support AE2 (what we had on another server) so i wrote a lua script that calculated how many Kb/Mg/Gb you had in the terminal and how much in % was used up of your HDD space! i know OC is basicaly like computercraft but it's more complicated then CC
L60[09:02:31] <Kris> so i can't just copy my lua code from CC to OC
L61[09:03:17] <g> Honestly the best thing is to just hook everything up and see what output you get from running `components`
L62[09:04:25] <Kris> that's just what i did BUT neither a "refinde storage" block nor a minecraft chest (vanilla) shows up on "components" :/ yes im using the "Adapter" from computronics
L63[09:07:41] <g> You don't always need the adapter
L64[09:09:15] <LizzyTheKitty> also the adapter is part of OC, computronics just adds more stuff to it
L65[09:09:43] <Kris> ah but still, nothing show's up on the screen (components) not even a vanilla chest, that should show up
L66[09:10:10] <g> nothing shows up at all? it should show some of the hardware in your PC
L67[09:10:43] <g> you're not using some other architecture or a weird os are you?
L68[09:10:57] <Kris> yea it show's the components in the computer
L69[09:11:11] <Kris> no im using the standard OS that comes on the floppy
L70[09:11:13] <g> okay
L71[09:13:17] <g> I'm not sure what else to check
L72[09:13:20] <g> been a while since I've used OC
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L74[09:15:54] <Kris> hmmm :/
L75[09:20:09] <smoke_fumus> guys. at least approxmiately, can you tell me how many active users does OC have?
L76[09:21:21] <Kris> im realy starting to miss ComputerCraft :(
L77[09:21:45] <smoke_fumus> don't. OC is plainly better. just make sure you also have applied energistics 2 to craft all the crap
L78[09:22:07] <Kris> i use Refined Storage, way better then AE2
L79[09:22:17] <smoke_fumus> does it have autocrafting too?
L80[09:22:20] <Vexatos> how would anyone know how many users OC has >_>
L81[09:22:28] <Vexatos> It's not like the mod does analytics
L82[09:22:29] <Kris> but that's my problem OC don't connect to Draconic Evolution nor Refined Storage :/ ComputerCraft does....
L83[09:22:33] <smoke_fumus> Vexatos: that sucks
L84[09:23:00] <Vexatos> Kris, except it does
L85[09:23:12] <Vexatos> I have personally consulted those two authors and helped them add their OC support
L86[09:23:20] <Kris> Vexatos: yes it has autocrafting and in this mod all it is is 1 block called "crafter" that's it!!!
L87[09:23:20] <Vexatos> so I, like, know that it works >_>
L88[09:23:36] <smoke_fumus> eh, i like applied energistics more
L89[09:23:38] <Vexatos> Both DE and RS have OC support
L90[09:23:55] <Kris> can you give me a wiki or something to read?
L91[09:23:58] <smoke_fumus> makes me feel more in control. EXSPECIALLY remote terminals setups
L92[09:24:08] <Vexatos> Kris, you know that you need to use an Adapter to connect them, right :I
L93[09:24:15] <g> RS has remote terminals..
L94[09:24:24] <AshIndigo> ~w adapter
L95[09:24:24] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:adapter
L96[09:24:28] <Kris> exactly g
L97[09:24:41] <Kris> if you read what i wrote i already did that
L98[09:24:59] <Kris> Quote : that's just what i did BUT neither a "refinde storage" block nor a minecraft chest (vanilla) shows up on "components" yes im using the "Adapter" from computronics
L99[09:26:18] <Vexatos> oh
L100[09:26:22] <Vexatos> you mean inventory management
L101[09:26:26] <Vexatos> you need a transposer for that one
L102[09:26:31] <Kris> nonono
L103[09:26:33] <Vexatos> or inventory controller upgrade if you are using a robot
L104[09:27:28] <Vexatos> RS even has proper adapter drivers
L105[09:27:28] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vQPDi
L106[09:27:36] <Kris> i want to write a script to show how much space i have in my disk drive in Refined Storage and display it on the monitor!!! but i can't find the adress to it
L107[09:27:46] <Vexatos> You should be able to just connect an adapter to any part of the network
L108[09:28:16] <Kris> that's what i can't do it, when i run "components" it doesn't show up
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L110[09:29:09] <Vexatos> The component is apparently called "refinedstorage"
L111[09:29:20] <Vexatos> It should be working just fine :I
L112[09:29:27] <Vexatos> And I know that raoulvdberge tested it
L113[09:29:37] <Kris> that's super weird :S
L114[09:29:43] <Kris> it doesn't show here
L115[09:29:58] <Vexatos> How is your computer connected to that adapter, and which RS block is that connected to
L116[09:29:59] <AshIndigo> what versopm of oc and rs?
L117[09:30:13] <Vexatos> oh yea, maybe you need to update RS
L118[09:30:18] <g> It's not scrolled off the top of the screen is it?
L119[09:30:26] <Kris> g: no :/
L120[09:30:37] <Kris> OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.2.7
L121[09:30:38] <Kris> refinedstorage-1.2.26
L122[09:32:13] <Vexatos> MC1.10.2 I assume?
L123[09:32:38] <Vexatos> That would explain it
L124[09:32:43] <Kris> ye
L125[09:32:55] <Vexatos> because the integration is only there on 1.11 and above
L126[09:33:04] <Kris> oh fuck me sideways
L127[09:33:07] <Kris> ....
L128[09:33:30] <LizzyTheKitty> no thanks
L129[09:33:57] <Kris> so im screwed is what you're telling me
L130[09:34:14] <AshIndigo> you could update ;)
L131[09:34:31] <Vexatos> But I am pretty sure that DE support was there on 1.10
L132[09:34:47] <Vexatos> Yup, confirmed
L133[09:34:54] <g> Bit early for mods to be abandoning 1.10 isn't it?
L134[09:34:54] <g> o.o
L135[09:34:57] <Vexatos> even on 1.7
L136[09:38:54] <Inari> Kris: No,y ou were asking for screwing but were rejected
L137[09:40:37] <Kris> im playing on the "All the mods" modpack with some added extra mods to it, updating my client and server would be a BITCH :/
L138[09:42:10] * AshIndigo pokes Kris with atm2 and atm3
L139[09:43:05] <Kris> and updating would make me lose everything in my ME Terminal
L140[09:44:15] <Kris> Vexatos: what block in the DE pack did you connect to OC?
L141[09:44:51] <Kris> forget it
L142[09:44:53] <Kris> i found it :)
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L144[10:06:10] <Izaya> +>.>
L145[10:06:26] <Izaya> GPU is dying and GPUs cost like 4x the normal price
L146[10:06:27] <Izaya> goddamnit
L147[10:06:48] <Inari> ?.?
L148[10:07:08] <Izaya> etherum and bitcoin are spiking
L149[10:07:17] <Izaya> so GPU prices are way up
L150[10:15:50] <Kris> Computronics-1.11.2-1.6.4.jar
L151[10:15:56] <Kris> this is the newest for 1.11.2?
L152[10:18:25] <Vexatos> yes and no
L153[10:18:42] <Vexatos> There is a more recent dev build
L154[10:18:48] <Vexatos> ...somewhere
L155[10:19:48] <Vexatos> Kris, http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/Computronics-1.11.2-1.6.5.149-more-fixes.jar
L156[10:19:54] <Vexatos> lots of bug fixes there :I
L157[10:19:59] <Skye> P
L158[10:20:17] <Vexatos> Also, Kris, make sure to get the latest OC build from http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.11/
L159[10:30:34] <Kris> lol's
L160[10:30:48] <Kris> i installed computronics but MC says i need computercraft with computronics....
L161[10:32:18] <Vexatos> what
L162[10:32:22] <Vexatos> no
L163[10:32:30] <Vexatos> You might need to _update_ Computercraft
L164[10:32:43] <Vexatos> If you have it
L165[10:32:55] <Kris> but i dont have computercraft in the mods folder.... ComputerCraft dont have an 1.11.2 version
L166[10:33:13] <Vexatos> Why would it need CC
L167[10:33:16] <Vexatos> It never did >_>
L168[10:33:28] <Kris> i dont understand it either :S
L169[10:33:29] <Kris> seriously
L170[10:33:48] <Vexatos> give me your fml-client-latest.log >_>
L171[10:35:11] <Kris> https://ibb.co/hT0pSv
L172[10:35:12] <Kris> 2 sec
L173[10:36:04] <Kris> https://pastebin.com/0HVqTLhz
L174[10:36:24] <Kris> [17:28:56] [Client thread/FATAL]: The mod computronics (Computronics) requires mod versions [computercraft@[1.80,)] to be available
L175[10:36:26] <Kris> lols xD
L176[10:36:44] <Vexatos> That does not look like fml-client-latest.log :I
L177[10:37:00] <Kris> that's all i have :S
L178[10:37:03] <Vexatos> what
L179[10:37:03] <Kris> in the log folder
L180[10:37:18] <Vexatos> It's missing the exact lines that I need to debug this >_>
L181[10:37:34] <Vexatos> you sure
L182[10:37:40] <Kris> https://pastebin.com/W6X9GcMV
L183[10:37:47] <Kris> this one? it was in a .gz file
L184[10:37:59] <Vexatos> this is definitely not it
L185[10:38:23] <Vexatos> what is the file even called, the first one >_>
L186[10:39:14] <Vexatos> This is definitely not the correct file
L187[10:39:14] <Kris> latest.log
L188[10:39:18] <Vexatos> yea that is not it
L189[10:39:22] <Vexatos> I need fml-client-latest.log
L190[10:39:26] <Vexatos> it is in logs/
L191[10:39:29] <Vexatos> not log/ :I
L192[10:39:45] <Kris> haha, there is no logs folder xD wth is going on
L193[10:39:56] <Vexatos> you sure this is on a client, right
L194[10:40:01] <Vexatos> because the server generates log/
L195[10:40:02] <Kris> yea
L196[10:40:05] <Vexatos> the client generates logs/
L197[10:40:19] <Vexatos> no actually
L198[10:40:23] <Vexatos> they are both called logs/
L199[10:40:27] <Kris> oh yea that's right, i have a logs folder
L200[10:40:28] <LizzyTheKitty> looking at the first pastebin: [17:34:57] [Client thread/ERROR]: Problem opening log file C:\Users\Movie\Documents\Curse\Minecraft\Instances\All the Mods 2\logs\fml-client-latest.log
L201[10:40:37] <Vexatos> well there you go >_>
L202[10:40:41] <Kris> 2017-07-10-1.log.gz
L203[10:40:42] <Kris> latest.log
L204[10:40:44] <Kris> only files in there
L205[10:40:45] <Kris> xD
L206[10:40:45] <Kris> lols
L207[10:41:13] <Vexatos> can't help you unless I get that file >_>
L208[10:41:57] <Vexatos> Kris, I know what's going on
L209[10:42:02] <Vexatos> you have computality, right
L210[10:42:38] <Kris> *looking*
L211[10:42:47] <Vexatos> it's basically computercraft >_>
L212[10:42:54] <Kris> yea there it is
L213[10:42:56] <Kris> i have that one yea
L214[10:43:23] <Vexatos> apparently, they changed the versioning scheme
L215[10:43:33] <Vexatos> so Computronics doesn't like it >_>
L216[10:43:37] * Vexatos sighs
L217[10:43:43] <Vexatos> Please hold the line
L218[10:47:10] <Vexatos> Kris, http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/Computronics-1.11.2-1.6.5.151-why.jar
L219[10:48:09] <Vexatos> the infinite fun that is CC forks
L220[10:49:28] <Izaya> https://pastebin.com/raw/nYES9Qw0 I made a thing
L221[10:49:51] <Izaya> uses metatables to allow you to run programs in /bin from a Lua prompt
L222[10:50:10] <Vexatos> uh
L223[10:50:12] <Vexatos> what do you mean
L224[10:50:46] <Vexatos> Isn't that what a shell normally does?
L225[10:50:54] <Vexatos> oh, the REPL you mean
L226[10:50:55] <Vexatos> so basically os.execute?
L227[10:51:41] <Izaya> it's both a normal shell and a Lua prompt
L228[10:52:04] <Izaya> first it checks the local table for an index
L229[10:52:10] <Izaya> wait
L230[10:52:11] <Izaya> :|
L231[10:52:16] <Vexatos> what's different to everything else OpenOS has
L232[10:52:19] <Izaya> okay first it checks /bin for a file matching the index
L233[10:52:27] <Izaya> Vexatos: it's a lua prompt
L234[10:52:36] <Vexatos> but why
L235[10:52:39] <Izaya> that you can do edit("/path/to/file") from
L236[10:52:49] <Vexatos> but why
L237[10:52:59] <Izaya> because a lua shell is more convenient for me
L238[10:53:04] <Izaya> and also more in line with MultICE
L239[10:53:08] <Vexatos> instead of just os.execute("edit /path/to/file")
L240[10:53:13] <Izaya> yes
L241[10:53:19] <Izaya> convenience
L242[10:53:22] <Vexatos> uh
L243[10:53:24] <Vexatos> okay....?
L244[10:53:37] <Izaya> 'sides, you can use library functions directly with a little work
L245[10:53:41] <Izaya> [which I am doing now]
L246[10:56:10] <Kris> wtf.... i turned the volume on music down to 0... i still hear crappy minecraft music.... wtf
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L249[11:04:05] <gamax92> bleh
L250[11:06:09] <gamax92> vifino: hi
L251[11:08:29] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/trvsvo.png
L252[11:08:57] <Izaya> now uses $PATH
L253[11:09:40] <payonel> o/
L254[11:09:47] <Izaya> \o
L255[11:09:52] <Izaya> https://pastebin.com/raw/mei23EXg
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L257[11:15:37] <Izaya> payonel: what is the environment variable that tells the program where to load libraries from?
L258[11:16:04] <gamax92> package.path
L259[11:18:15] <Izaya> magic
L260[11:18:22] <Izaya> I can now run functions from libraries directly
L261[11:18:35] <Izaya> even ones that aren't require()'d
L262[11:18:38] <gamax92> Izaya: what's a good small desktop environment
L263[11:18:46] <Izaya> LXDE is nice
L264[11:18:50] <Izaya> XFCE is nicer but heavier
L265[11:18:50] <gamax92> I'm tired of using the text console from freebsd
L266[11:18:59] <Izaya> if you want to go more minimal
L267[11:19:10] <Izaya> wmaker + xterm variant
L268[11:19:23] <Izaya> can't get lighter than that
L269[11:20:41] <gamax92> right ... no automatic dhcp on boot
L270[11:24:12] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/qatubh.png
L271[11:25:11] <Izaya> didn't show library use >.>
L272[11:25:12] <Izaya> meh
L273[11:25:23] <Izaya> do we have tee yet?
L274[11:30:52] <Kris> has anyone written a lua program for Refined Storage?
L275[11:32:36] <gamax92> Izaya: I run xfce and get "Abort trap (core dumped)"
L276[11:32:48] <payonel> Kris: do refined storage blocks load as components?
L277[11:33:20] <payonel> Izaya: no. i think we should have an oppm package that dumps a bunch of gnu tools in /bin
L278[11:33:58] <Skye> Why /bin
L279[11:34:04] <payonel> or /usr/bin
L280[11:34:08] <gamax92> because fak u
L281[11:34:23] <Kris> payonel: yes
L282[11:34:47] <payonel> Skye: i wasn't trying to specifically refer to /bin, but rather $PATH
L283[11:36:40] <Kris> so anyone?
L284[11:37:51] <Vexatos> Kris, so I assume it works now? >_>
L285[11:38:27] <payonel> Kris: i don't know much about the projects the community has written, but i dont know of any for refined storage
L286[11:38:50] <Kris> it works in a way that it finds RS but not DE now :S
L287[11:40:30] <Kris> why... -.-
L288[11:42:20] <Vexatos> I know why
L289[11:42:20] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vQXka
L290[11:42:25] <Vexatos> this needs to be lowercase now >_>
L291[11:42:36] <Vexatos> brandon3055, please fix :I
L292[11:43:23] <Kris> is there anyway i can hotfix it right now?
L293[11:43:49] <Vexatos> no
L294[11:44:00] <Vexatos> well
L295[11:44:08] <Vexatos> yes if you have a bytecode editor
L296[11:44:10] <payonel> you could change the bytecode in the jar
L297[11:44:13] <Vexatos> you can go into that file and change the string
L298[11:44:13] <Kris> it's actualy ok for now!! as long as i have RF support
L299[11:44:17] <payonel> ^ :) haha, i've done that before
L300[11:44:24] <Vexatos> same
L301[11:46:00] <payonel> oh right, i remember why. i didn't like the "free crafting table via hotkey - can be placed as an overlay on any surface" in chickenbones' translocators mod
L302[11:46:06] <payonel> so i removed it :/
L303[11:46:31] <Vexatos> I didn't like absolute coordinates
L304[11:46:34] <Vexatos> so I removed them
L305[11:46:36] <Vexatos> EVERYWHERE
L306[11:46:58] <payonel> moar ehmurshun!
L307[11:47:10] <rashy> ohey Vexatos
L308[11:48:42] <Vexatos> Hi D:
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L310[11:58:19] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WE6MuJHTvA ~
L311[11:58:20] <MichiBot> (HD) Ranma 1/2~Opening 2~Mit der Sonne (Deutsch-German) | length: 1m 29s | Likes: 2,135 Dislikes: 52 Views: 673,693 | by xStrohhutboyx | Published On 14/4/2011
L312[12:00:05] <Kris> aoch, not many methods for the RF on OC
L313[12:00:16] <Kris> looks like i have to write a wannabe script
L314[12:15:19] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Rite.... thats a thing... thought i found all those.
L315[12:16:23] <payonel> %lua ("brandon3055"):upper()
L316[12:16:23] <MichiBot> BRANDON3055
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L318[12:29:34] <Izaya> water dropped onto my phone screen and it exited my IRC client
L319[12:29:45] <Forecaster> it's a sign from above
L320[12:29:53] <Izaya> se7en: did you used to frequent #lainchan on freenode?
L321[12:30:36] <Izaya> gamax92: wmaker + xterm
L322[12:30:40] <Izaya> can't go wrong
L323[12:30:51] <gamax92> X didn't start.
L324[12:30:59] <Izaya> RIP
L325[12:31:06] <Izaya> might want to fix that
L326[12:31:41] <gamax92> or I'll just use the console since I only am using FreeBSD for one purpose
L327[12:32:28] <Izaya> fair
L328[12:35:02] <gamax92> I've learned about building on freebsd, so I redid the VMs to make sure I do minimal changes
L329[12:37:41] <Forecaster> http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/2017/07/05/1560-the-internet-is-fantastic/
L330[12:40:11] <vifino> gamax92: hey.
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L333[12:51:07] <Inari> https://giphy.com/gifs/hedgehog-3o7bueStqEca4YftOE
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L335[12:51:26] <gamax92> vifino: aaaaa?
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L347[13:11:40] <payonel> does dresden have good isp options?
L348[13:31:29] <vifino> gamax92: no, only aaaa in r2
L349[13:31:55] <gamax92> vifino: I have to build stuff but make sure it works for old versions for freebsd too
L350[13:32:22] <gamax92> the new version of freebsd puts in a symbol that is too new
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L352[13:33:07] <Doob> hello!
L353[13:33:16] <Doob> The adapter does not connect to the chest on MC 1.11.2 What could be the reason? At 1.7.10 everything is fine.
L354[13:34:03] <fingercomp> insert an inventory controller upgrade into the adapter
L355[13:34:50] <Doob> Also does not work.
L356[13:35:06] <AshIndigo> %choose bleh or meh
L357[13:35:07] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: meh
L358[13:36:47] <Doob> The beacon driver, for example, works fine.
L359[13:38:22] <fingercomp> are you looking for a 'chest' component? If yes, it's an OpenPeripheral's driver. You should be able to use the inventory controller upgrade via component.inventory_controller
L360[13:39:50] <Vexatos> fingercomp, transposer*
L361[13:40:00] <Vexatos> use the transposer :I
L362[13:40:10] <fingercomp> inventory controller should work too
L363[13:40:43] <fingercomp> unless he wants to move items around
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L365[13:41:48] <Vexatos> but that one is deprecated :I
L366[13:43:43] <vifino> gamax92: dunno, what are you targeting?
L367[13:43:53] <gamax92> 7
L368[13:44:00] <vifino> and what are you writing?
L369[13:44:08] <gamax92> lua
L370[13:44:14] <fingercomp> Vexatos: but it still works. Also, the upgrade is cheaper.
L371[13:44:26] <Vexatos> but that one is deprecated :I
L372[13:44:28] <gamax92> it's just a compile of lua on freebsd
L373[13:44:33] <Vexatos> I should just remove the adapter driver :I
L374[13:44:47] <vifino> oh ok. well, you could just compile it there, it should run on the newer releases.
L375[13:44:51] <Doob> Yes, thank you, I forgot about the transposer. This is what you need.
L376[13:46:49] <Doob> Many things with the same functionality)
L377[14:17:08] <Kris> guys im a bit confused
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L379[14:18:01] <Kris> when i run getItems() i get rows of tables inside tables (RS + OC)
L380[14:21:24] <Corded> * <MGR> received his shiny new Galaxy S8
L381[14:21:46] * AshIndigo roots it
L382[14:22:11] <MGR> Crap, I gotta name it
L383[14:23:33] <Doob> Kris, it's table with tables which contain information about items
L384[14:24:01] <Kris> yea, i need to count all of the items not just how many tables there are
L385[14:24:05] <Kris> how...
L386[14:25:56] <Doob> example items, amount = interface.getItems(), 0 for i = 1, #items do amount = amount+items[i].size end print(amount)
L387[14:27:17] <Doob> or
L388[14:27:21] <Doob> for i = 1, #items do print(items[i].label, items[i].size) end
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L390[14:42:07] * vifino received a custom HPI Baja 5B (SS?)
L391[14:44:09] <Kris> Doob, ty for that :) works!! as i am used to ComputerCraft this is new for me cause like "peripheral.wrap" doesn't exist on OC
L392[14:45:24] <gamax92> component.proxy("address") is our peripheral.wrap("side")
L393[14:45:33] <Kris> oooh :)
L394[14:45:36] <Kris> thanks for that
L395[14:46:31] <gamax92> but even easier you can just do component.(type) like component.gpu or component.redstone
L396[14:46:52] <Kris> yea just found out, used component.screen (i was looking for the screen
L397[14:47:16] <Kris> on CC i could write monitor.getSize() to get the screen size, is there something simular in OC?
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L399[14:47:59] <Vexatos> gpu.getResolution
L400[14:48:04] <Vexatos> or, more accurately, gpu.getViewport
L401[14:48:22] <Vexatos> that's the number of pixels though
L402[14:48:30] <Vexatos> it is independent of the number of monitor blocks
L403[14:49:43] <gamax92> >pixels
L404[14:49:49] <Vexatos> characters
L405[14:49:50] <Vexatos> >_>
L406[14:49:56] <Vindex> Computer can have multiple monitors, right?
L407[14:50:01] <Vexatos> yes
L408[14:50:05] <Vexatos> also multiple GPUs
L409[14:50:15] <Vindex> Um
L410[14:50:31] <Vindex> Difference?
L411[14:50:42] <Vexatos> a GPU controls a monitor
L412[14:50:47] <Vexatos> you bínd a GPU to a monitor
L413[14:50:53] <Vexatos> to make it draw stuff on it
L414[14:51:48] <Vindex> And touch screens are also monitors or something else?
L415[14:51:56] <Vexatos> yes
L416[14:52:20] <Vindex> I mean in world control ones
L417[14:52:35] <Vindex> To hit them with right click
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L421[15:08:54] <Dustpuppy> hi and so on
L422[15:10:00] <Inari> %pet Dustpuppy
L423[15:10:01] * MichiBot pets Dustpuppy with a fang-tan potion. Dustpuppy recovers 2 health!
L424[15:10:17] <Dustpuppy> thx
L425[15:11:19] <Temia> Fang-tan?
L426[15:12:00] <Inari> Fang-tan
L427[15:12:40] <Temia> ...Who or what is fang-tan?
L428[15:13:15] <Dustpuppy> what or who ever it is. it recovers me 2 health ;-)
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L430[15:15:46] <Inari> a generic name for anime girls that have a fang
L431[15:16:35] <Inari> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteLittleFangs
L432[15:26:28] <Lizzy> %choose just wheel or wheel and gear shifter
L433[15:26:29] <MichiBot> Lizzy: just wheel
L434[15:26:32] <Lizzy> thanks MichiBot
L435[15:26:33] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You're welcome!
L436[15:27:09] <Temia> Ah, right.
L437[15:27:17] <Temia> So just a potion that makes you grow a fang, got it.
L438[15:27:29] <Temia> Inevitably just one, or at least only ever one visible.
L439[15:28:59] <Kris> what's the equal to "monitor.setCursorPos(x,y)" in OC?
L440[15:31:30] <gamax92> term.setCursor(x, y)
L441[15:32:14] <Kris> do i need to set term or can i just use it straigth out?
L442[15:32:25] <gamax92> local term = require("term")
L443[15:33:19] <gamax92> I wish that OC had a hardware accelerated cursor
L444[15:34:01] <Kris> ty :)
L445[15:34:03] <Dustpuppy> i wish it would have a virtual screen buffer :-P
L446[15:34:35] <gamax92> i wish that it could make me breakfast
L447[15:34:43] <Kris> in CC there was print and write, i know there is print in OC but what about write?
L448[15:34:57] <Vexatos> gamax92, someone please give me an OC that can code all the things that I don't want to do
L449[15:35:08] <Vexatos> Kris, read the wiki ,_,
L450[15:35:13] <Vexatos> ~w
L451[15:35:13] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.
L452[15:35:18] <Vexatos> there >_>
L453[15:35:21] <Vexatos> ~w term
L454[15:35:21] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term
L455[15:35:27] <gamax92> we have term.write, and also io.write, I don't know which one payonel prefers you to use
L456[15:35:27] <Vexatos> ~w non-standard
L457[15:35:27] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:non-standard-lua-libs
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L459[15:43:00] <Kris> wiki doesn't say anything about how to set color on text?!!!
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L461[15:44:22] <gamax92> that be on the gpu component
L462[15:44:41] <gamax92> ~w gpu component
L463[15:44:41] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L464[15:45:15] <Kris> there is only setBackground
L465[15:45:29] <gamax92> there is setForeground
L466[15:45:47] <Kris> is that for text... ?
L467[15:45:55] <gamax92> yes?
L468[15:46:17] <Kris> kk why not just setTextColor, dafuq is Foreground....
L469[15:47:02] <gamax92> the opposite of a background
L470[15:47:13] <Kris> but still
L471[15:47:37] <gamax92> calling text color foreground color is a very common alternative
L472[15:53:45] <Vexatos> because it is not always text
L473[15:53:55] <Vexatos> most unicode characters cannot produce text
L474[15:57:31] <gamax92> that's also very true, "characters" is not synonymous with "text"
L475[15:58:49] <gamax92> there's a lot of things out there in unicode like lines, shapes, arrows, emoji, music notes, moon phases, flags, box drawing characters
L476[16:01:28] <Kris> is it possible to find the .lua file im coding on, on the server?
L477[16:01:40] <gamax92> if you go into OpenComputer
L478[16:01:44] <gamax92> bleh keyboard.
L479[16:02:11] <gamax92> if you go into OpenComputer's config file, disable bufferChanges, then you can edit files on the server and have changes show up immediately
L480[16:02:31] <gamax92> it puts files in (world folder)/opencomputers/(hard drive uuid)/
L481[16:03:05] <Kris> there we go :)
L482[16:03:06] <Kris> tyty
L483[16:04:28] <Kris> erh what... when i edit the file in Notepad++ and save it, it doesn't update ingame the OC computer
L484[16:04:29] <Kris> why?
L485[16:04:55] <Temia> Caching.
L486[16:05:14] <Kris> how to fix?
L487[16:06:44] <gamax92> "disable bufferChanges"
L488[16:06:49] <Temia> Disable bufferChanges.
L489[16:06:52] <Temia> ...dangit, missed
L490[16:07:33] <Kris> and how does one do that?
L491[16:08:34] <Temia> Modify it in the config file.
L492[16:08:42] <Temia> Naturally you'll have to stop your MC session first.
L493[16:09:08] <Kris> do i have to restart the server? -.-
L494[16:09:16] <gamax92> yes
L495[16:10:31] <Kris> wtf there is no config file for OC :S
L496[16:10:54] * Michiyo sighs and minimizes IRC again
L497[16:10:57] <gamax92> minecraft/config/opencomputers/settings.conf or minecraft/config/OpenComputers.cfg
L498[16:11:12] <gamax92> depending on what your mc version is
L499[16:12:54] <Vindex> btw, you can use github to download your code...
L500[16:13:13] <Vindex> or I program locally and then push to github and download on server
L501[16:21:58] <Lizzy> #p
L502[16:22:00] <Lizzy> %p
L503[16:22:03] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 0.32s
L504[16:22:04] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 0.19s
L505[16:22:05] <Lizzy> hmm
L506[16:26:10] <Kris> local attachedMonitor = component.screen
L507[16:26:15] <Kris> why do this return nil?
L508[16:28:04] <Kris> attachedMonitor.setBackground(colors.black)
L509[16:28:06] <Kris> trying to do this
L510[16:28:28] <Kris> error : Attempt to call field 'setBackground' (a nil value)
L511[16:29:33] <payonel> Kris: (and gamax92 ) io.write and term.write are both fine. ZERO preference one over the other, openos will always support term.write just as it is now
L512[16:30:02] <gamax92> the screen does not have setBackground
L513[16:30:07] <gamax92> the gpu has setBackground
L514[16:30:51] <payonel> Kris: term.write can specify wrapping ( term.write("some text", true) ), io.write takes variable arg list ( io.write("some text", " ", "some more text") )
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L516[16:31:14] <payonel> Kris: io.write AND term.write both write to stdout of the current process, one is not better than the other
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L518[16:33:04] <Kris> term.write(string.rep(" ", length))
L519[16:33:08] <Kris> this didn't work
L520[16:33:27] <Kris> bad argument #2 'rep' (number expected, got nil):
L521[16:33:50] <gamax92> I'm going back into hibernation now
L522[16:33:52] <gamax92> payonel: have fun
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L524[16:38:17] <payonel> Kris: also, the colors table is for IDs on bundled cables
L525[16:38:25] <payonel> it doesn't map to gpu colors
L526[16:38:32] <Kris> kk
L527[16:38:34] <payonel> you set gpu colors using rgb values
L528[16:38:47] <payonel> like, gpu.setBackground(0) -- zero is black
L529[16:38:57] <payonel> gpu.setBackground(0x00ffff) -- cyan
L530[16:40:06] <Kris> but
L531[16:40:08] <Kris> term.write(string.rep(" ", length))
L532[16:40:11] <Kris> this didn't work
L533[16:40:15] <Kris> bad argument #2 'rep' (number expected, got nil):
L534[16:40:16] <Kris> why?
L535[16:40:29] <payonel> it expects a number, but you gave it nil
L536[16:40:35] <gamax92> your second argument to string.rep, your length variable, is not a number and is instead nil
L537[16:41:02] <payonel> i was going to be cheeky then you go and just tell them :P i thought you were in hibernation
L538[16:41:24] <Kris> yea cause the line is in a function so length will be a number
L539[16:41:42] <payonel> Kris: before that line, go ahead and print(type(length))
L540[16:41:47] <Kris> https://pastebin.com/siC19CfW
L541[16:42:08] <gamax92> then whatever is calling draw_line is giving it nil for length
L542[16:42:09] <payonel> Kris: i would add...
L543[16:43:26] <payonel> Kris: https://hastebin.com/ewipirixod.php
L544[16:54:15] <Kris> erh.. is there NO form off "sleep(1)" in OC ?
L545[16:54:21] <Kris> event.timer doesn't work
L546[16:57:10] <payonel> Kris: os.sleep(n)
L547[16:57:19] <payonel> and event.timer does work, it has nothing to do with sleeping
L548[16:57:45] <payonel> kris: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event
L549[16:57:52] <Kris> when you have a while loop, how do i kill it?
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L551[16:57:55] <payonel> `event.listen` registers callbacks
L552[16:58:00] <payonel> Kris: break
L553[16:58:05] <Kris> no like
L554[16:58:19] <Kris> i can't interact with the computer while the script is running
L555[16:58:28] <Kris> how to stop the script
L556[16:58:35] <Kris> with CC it was ctrl + w
L557[17:00:01] <payonel> Kris: the answer to that question really depends. what do you want to do with your computer while your script is running?
L558[17:01:20] <gamax92> Kris: Ctrl-Alt-C
L559[17:02:05] <Dustpuppy> Ctrl+Alt+F4
L560[17:02:08] <Dustpuppy> :-)
L561[17:02:21] <payonel> Kris: ctrl+w kills the current script? (in cc?)
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L563[17:21:17] <Kris> i can only get black text...
L564[17:21:18] <Kris> why
L565[17:26:52] <Kris> got it
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L570[17:37:01] <Dustpuppy> shit, my head is full and i get nothing new into it
L571[17:37:15] <ouroborus> Woot! First time on IRC via OpenComputers
L572[17:40:05] <payonel> ouroborus: o/
L573[17:47:07] <Kris> bah
L574[17:47:24] <Kris> using while loop makes the screen flicker each "os.sleep(1)" -.-
L575[17:47:32] <Kris> CC didn't do that
L576[17:47:36] <Kris> is there a fix for this?
L577[17:49:46] <Inari> ?
L578[17:49:58] <Inari> I don't see why the screen woudl flicker if you call os.sleep
L579[17:51:06] <Kris> i found out way, stupid me put a term.clear() in the while loop :P
L580[17:53:30] <Kris> is there any way to resize text?
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L582[18:00:08] <payonel> Kris: there is no font size, but you can change the resolution of your screen
L583[18:03:06] <Kris> yea saw that
L584[18:03:27] <Temia> That was one of the really weird things about CC... font size...
L585[18:03:49] <Temia> Having an independent resolution is a lot more sensible.
L586[18:05:33] <Temia> Oh!
L587[18:05:42] <Temia> So I'm setting up my new computer (finally) and I've been meaning to ask.
L588[18:06:09] <Temia> Is there a preferrable flash media-optimized file system these days? I was using f2fs on my last one but if there's better out there, I was thinking of going with that.
L589[18:06:52] <Temia> Especially since that was more tailored for devices without wear-levelling, which... isn't most SSDs these days. >_>
L590[18:07:14] <Dustpuppy> only the real screen as output buffer is bad. i need more posibilities to copy and paste part of the screen, or build up an output in background and paste it then onto the screen
L591[18:07:28] <Temia> I mean I'll still use it on my college laptop's old ATA-ZIF SSD simply because I have no idea what it's capable of on its own, and it lacks TRIM by its nature.
L592[18:08:01] <Temia> ...But I'm rambling. Point is, any 'nix users have a filesystem they can recommed for their SSDs?
L593[18:14:17] <CompanionCube> do you desire anything f2fs doesn't offer?
L594[18:14:55] <Dustpuppy> my boot ssd is on ext4
L595[18:15:02] <Temia> ...more robust recovery tools?
L596[18:15:36] <CompanionCube> lol, on some review of filesystems: 'Ext4 is a satisfactory choice for solid-state drives with filesystem journaling disabled, and a decent choice for most users, but it should not be the first choice.'
L597[18:15:37] <Temia> I just want to avoid excessive block rewrites that may come up with more traditional filesystems, is all
L598[18:16:20] <CompanionCube> disabling journaling on an important disk sounds like a good way to end up in fsckland next time you have an unplanned reset :)
L599[18:16:41] <CompanionCube> Temia: btrfs has good recovery tools ;)
L600[18:17:06] <Temia> ...which makes up for its overall stability? :P
L601[18:17:14] <CompanionCube> thatsthejoke.jpg
L602[18:21:13] <CompanionCube> does the distro you're installing support f2fs out of the box?
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L606[18:27:22] <Temia> Define "out of the box".
L607[18:28:05] <CompanionCube> i.e would it involve going out of the way during the installation process
L608[18:28:50] <Temia> Looks like the kernel modules are built by default, so
L609[18:28:55] <Temia> I'd say yes.
L610[18:32:03] <payonel> i use btrfs, and it has never failed me :/
L611[18:32:18] <payonel> been using it for a few years for 100s of thousands of files and about 7TB of dat
L612[18:32:19] <payonel> data*
L613[18:32:38] <payonel> with daily snapshots, 10 owncloud accounts, and a few minecraft worlds
L614[18:32:59] <Temia> Oh neat.
L615[18:33:07] <payonel> ssd rootfs, and a few hdds for storage
L616[18:33:12] <Temia> Much like Samsung, NTT is developing their own log-structured filesystem.
L617[18:33:35] <CompanionCube> Temia: 'developing' doesn't make sense considering wikipedia said it orignated in 2005
L618[18:33:42] <Temia> Eh.
L619[18:33:48] <Temia> Developed then, fine.
L620[18:34:01] <Temia> Either way, neat.
L621[18:35:30] <CompanionCube> i was going to say someone recommended it for large amounts of small files
L622[18:36:02] * CompanionCube hasn't used either, sticking to btrfs/XFS/ZFS in that order
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L625[18:46:19] <Temia> ...hm.
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L627[18:46:35] <Temia> Maybe I'll just roll with xfs, idk.
L628[18:46:58] <Temia> Aso what the hell, did the Arch ISO not boot in UEFI mode?
L629[18:53:04] <Temia> What the heeeell
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L634[19:11:53] <Temia> Oh, the old owner had CSM set to use legacy option ROMs exclusively.
L635[19:11:58] <Temia> That would certainly do it.
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L648[22:50:23] <BobbyTables2012> hey, just got a test version of the futures market system but am running into the first flash crash issue
L649[22:51:14] <BobbyTables2012> it is running out of processes and slowing everything down
L650[22:53:26] <Mimiru> Wat.
L651[22:54:15] <BobbyTables2012> for quite some time I have been working on creating a futures exchange for commodities in open computers
L652[22:54:59] <Temia> Sounds like a nasty memory leak.
L653[22:55:15] <Temia> Also, cute name.
L654[22:55:16] <BobbyTables2012> it technically works now but becomes extremely bogged down if there are too many connections at the same time
L655[22:55:32] <BobbyTables2012> regardless of whether its actually using a lot of processing time on the server
L656[22:56:49] <BobbyTables2012> even if each one uses very little data (basically sending a message to the exchange that gives authentication via rsa, says the order type, ticker being ordered, and the number, and any other other required info
L657[22:56:57] <BobbyTables2012> like limit price for a limit order
L658[22:57:21] <BobbyTables2012> or bid/ask if you are quoting a market
L659[22:57:33] <BobbyTables2012> for market making purposes
L660[22:57:58] <BobbyTables2012> or how long to wait before killing the order if not filled (infinite if not specified)
L661[22:58:05] <BobbyTables2012> etc
L662[22:58:28] <BobbyTables2012> its just text so the problem doesnt seem to be resource overusage
L663[22:58:39] <BobbyTables2012> minecraft is fine
L664[22:58:58] <BobbyTables2012> its just that all the computers slow down to a halt
L665[22:59:08] <BobbyTables2012> if too many orders are processed at once
L666[22:59:30] <Temia> This sounds interesting.
L667[23:00:02] <BobbyTables2012> It may be some hardcoded limit on the number of processes allowed to run at once or something
L668[23:00:25] <BobbyTables2012> it eventually fills but really slowly
L669[23:01:21] <BobbyTables2012> I am thinking it has to do with the thread limit
L670[23:01:36] <Temia> I'd offer to look into it myself, but I'm busy working on setting up my new computer.
L671[23:01:47] <BobbyTables2012> I see
L672[23:02:29] <BobbyTables2012> I have a cheap workaround right now (put orders beyond that on queue) but I would like to be able to handle greater volume
L673[23:02:57] <BobbyTables2012> so far its pretty successful though
L674[23:03:12] <BobbyTables2012> other than that small glitch
L675[23:04:42] <BobbyTables2012> discovered it when it was triggered by the market making algo I designed to both make a profit and to improve the liquidity of the exchange
L676[23:05:21] <BobbyTables2012> as liquidity isnt that great right now
L677[23:05:54] <BobbyTables2012> its a great experiment
L678[23:07:42] <BobbyTables2012> once I can get it to work, we can later start adding derititave markets
L679[23:07:59] <BobbyTables2012> for options
L680[23:09:57] <BobbyTables2012> and then capital markets (we already have companies but ownership is entirely private now)
L681[23:10:35] <BobbyTables2012> having a way player run companies could raise capital through equity and debt would greatly benefit our ingame economy
L682[23:13:39] <BobbyTables2012> but for now, commodities markets are working well
L683[23:13:58] <BobbyTables2012> once the speed issue is solved
L684[23:27:46] <Izaya> Temia: new computer? :o
L685[23:27:48] <Izaya> Specs?
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