L1[00:05:53] <gamax92> crap
L2[00:06:02] <gamax92> I ran out of disk
space in my VM
L3[00:08:34] <Izaya> I'm drowning in
DVDs
L4[00:08:52] <gamax92> Izaya: how to shrink
a disk image once you have freed up space
L5[00:09:48] <Izaya> https://askubuntu.com/a/107271
L6[00:10:33] <gamax92> Izaya: shrink
L7[00:10:45] <Izaya> -32G
L8[00:10:50] <Izaya> after resizing the
FS
L9[00:11:12] <gamax92> I'm not resizing the
internal data I'm reclaiming my host disk space
L10[00:11:23] *
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L11[00:11:28] <Izaya> I use raw disk
images
L12[00:13:24] <gamax92> I think I could
just make a giant file with zeros, then clone the image
L13[00:13:38] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/tVx2Nh7zg4t0_10721.jpg
L14[00:14:42] <gamax92> Izaya: Debian 8.5.0
i386 netin4t?
L15[00:14:51] <gamax92> netinst!
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L17[00:15:14] <Izaya> plus like 800 blank
ones
L18[00:16:49] <gamax92> %remindme 43m
cake
L19[00:16:50] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "cake" at 07/09/2017 12:59:49 AM
L20[00:19:44] <Izaya> gamax92: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-08/msg01021.html
L21[00:21:14] <gamax92> well ... I'd have
to attach it to a different VM then for that.
L22[00:59:49] <MichiBot> gamax92 REMINDER:
cake
L23[01:00:03] <gamax92> caaaaaake
L24[01:17:06] <gamax92> cake was not
good.
L25[01:40:57] <gamax92> hmm
L26[01:41:21] <gamax92> css has masking, so
you could take a jpeg, another black and white jpeg as a mask, and
make a jpeg that seems to have alpha
L27[01:52:52] <Saphire> https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/a/2010/announcing-snowflake.html
o..o
L28[01:52:55] <Saphire> Shiny
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L31[02:26:49] <Syrren> Saphire: https://github.com/twitter/snowflake is an empty
repo, though
L32[02:26:56] <Syrren>
s/empty/abandoned/
L33[02:26:57] <MichiBot> <Syrren>
Saphire: https://github.com/twitter/snowflake is
an abandoned repo, though
L34[02:27:29] <Saphire> Well, duh. It's
2010 thing
L35[02:27:42] <Saphire> And it was an
example, no?
L36[02:31:29] <Syrren> Yeah, it's still
useful as an example even if it's unmaintained.
L37[02:35:42] <Izaya> ssh-agent is like the
best thing
L38[02:40:26] <Forecaster> I prefer
ssh-double-agent myself
L39[02:41:14] <Izaya> That isn't very
secure though
L40[02:41:39] <Forecaster> well no, it
could be an ssh-tripple-agent I suppose
L41[02:42:14] <Izaya> Will still leak data
if it's any more than one.
L42[02:43:12] <Forecaster> well yeah,
that's what a tripple-agent is :P
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L45[05:10:32] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvO0vu1I2Gk
o.o
L46[05:10:33] <MichiBot> Grand Theft
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L50[06:04:01] <fallen> hi
L51[06:06:15] <fallen> hi
L52[06:06:29] <fallen> i think the mc rooms
are seperate
L53[06:06:34] <fallen> and nobody else has
the irc t
L54[06:07:56] 
<Mettaton_Fab> what?
<Mettaton_Fab> what?L55[06:09:42] <AshIndigo> ?
L56[06:14:16] <Izaya> whoa man
L57[06:14:30] <Izaya> Just had to go
through an ad shortener link
L58[06:14:37] <Izaya> I forgot those
existed
L59[06:14:47] <Izaya> but once upon a time
they had every MC mod behind them
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L61[06:47:15] <Syrren> I used to have a
greasemonkey script to nope those
L62[06:55:45] <Izaya> me too
L63[06:55:54] <Izaya> with uBO it doesn't
matter much though
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L65[07:37:33] <Forecaster> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/07/09/0414245/48-year-old-multics-operating-system-resurrected
L66[07:39:24] <Izaya> ...
oooooooooooo
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L68[07:41:39] <Izaya> Multics had some
really interesting stuff going on with it, too bad it was massive I
guess
L69[08:09:37] <Syrren> Izaya: If I recall
correctly, that greasemonkey script was able to patch adf.ly links
into their destinations while you're reading the mod's page
L70[08:09:59] <Izaya> Okay that's p.
convenient
L71[08:10:31] <Syrren> yeah. I was making a
DIY modpack and I'm like, FUCK THIS, automation time!
L72[08:10:52] <Izaya> I had a FF addon that
read the adf.ly link when you went to the page and automatically
redirected you to the destination
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L75[08:12:36] <Izaya> I kinda miss back
then.
L76[08:12:51] <Syrren> the good old days
when RedPower2 was still a (non-abandoned) thing...
L77[08:12:57] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRfkbwO8Als
neat
L78[08:12:58] <MichiBot> Bird
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L79[08:13:11] <Izaya> before curse got
their meat-hooks into everything...
L80[08:13:22] <Inari> Syrren: I don't think
rp2 would have delivered much more than it already had
unfortunately
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L83[08:14:00] <Syrren> Yeah, but it
would've been updated for newer MC versions
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L90[09:08:50] *
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L91[09:09:43] *
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L92[09:11:36] *
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L93[09:12:01] <Syrren> Thanks!
L94[09:17:01] <DaMachinator> %help
L95[09:17:02] <MichiBot> DaMachinator:
Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L96[09:17:21] <DaMachinator> %wa 18.1in to
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L98[10:03:53] <gamax92> System Online
L99[10:18:42] <Inari> %give MichiBot a
foxgirl charm
L100[10:18:43] *
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inventory
L101[10:19:43] <vifino> %give MichiBot
GLaDOS
L102[10:19:45] *
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L103[10:20:11] <Izaya> q_q my GTX690 is
apparently more powerful than a GTX1050Ti
L104[10:20:20] <Izaya> At worst, equal
to.
L105[10:20:37] <Cruor> is GTX1050Ti the
budget card these days? .-.
L106[10:20:50] <vifino> indeed.
L107[10:20:57] <Izaya> Either upper budget
or low-midrange
L108[10:21:16] <vifino> High-low
range.
L109[10:21:19] <Cruor> need to help a dude
get a computer tommorow for school work and some gaming .-.
L110[10:21:23] <Cruor> he is like 14
:I
L111[10:21:36] <Izaya> 750Ti isn't really
worth getting nowdays, if you spend money now you might as well
blow more on a better GPU
L112[10:21:38] <Cruor> can i slap a 1050Ti
and i7 7700 into it and be happy? :p
L113[10:21:56] <Izaya> Cruor: I'm sitting
on slightly lower specs and I'm happy
L114[10:22:01] <vifino> install lenoks,
teach him the way of GNU and he'll never play any games
anymore
L115[10:22:12] <Cruor> pffff
L116[10:22:14] <Izaya> Won't get max GTA
settings because VRAM but beyond that everything should be
fine
L117[10:22:20] <vifino> Cruor: 1060ti
would be better
L118[10:22:30] <Cruor> i was considering a
1070 anyway .-.
L119[10:22:32] <vifino> er, 1060*
L120[10:22:38] <Cruor> dunno what prices
im even allowed to use :I
L121[10:23:06] <vifino> go for 1070 if you
want it to last and actually make the processor matter
L122[10:23:47] <Izaya> when the 690 dies I
think I'll blow my $300 or so on a GTX1060
L123[10:24:09] <Cruor> yea... but he is
fookin 14
L124[10:24:18] <vifino> Would you be
interested in a 960, Izaya?
L125[10:24:20] <Cruor> last one died
because they accidentaly knowed over the case
L126[10:24:21] <Cruor> a few tiesm
L127[10:24:22] <Izaya> 690 will be dying
soon, I'm getting flashes of random colours despite using entirely
digital video
L128[10:24:34] <Izaya> vifino: how much
would you want for it?
L129[10:24:47] <vifino> dunno. how much
would you pay for it? :P
L130[10:25:03] <Izaya> checking local
prices
L131[10:25:18] <Temia> That's always
fun.
L132[10:25:21] <Izaya> MSY doesn't stock
them
L133[10:25:23] <Izaya> k
L134[10:25:38] <Izaya> originally I was
gonna buy a GTX660 rather than a 750Ti
L135[10:25:39] <Cruor> what mobo do i
get?
L136[10:25:40] <Izaya> I got there on the
day
L137[10:25:52] <Izaya> they went
permenantly out of stock the day before
L138[10:25:58] <Temia> I used to have an
8600GTS that eventually spewed artifacts over ANY
hardware-accelerated operation. Gaming was out for a while and I
had to switch off even stuff like smooth scrolling.
L139[10:26:06] <Cruor> i found a acer
sabertooth thing and was like, yo this works
L140[10:27:09] <Izaya> Cruor: second
cheapest thing with >=32GB RAM support and the right socket, and
all the features you need
L141[10:27:24] <Cruor> sounds good
:I
L142[10:27:29] <Cruor> how many wattz do
you need these days
L143[10:27:38] <Izaya> use
pcpartpicker
L144[10:27:42] <Izaya> it'll give you an
estimate
L145[10:27:48] <Izaya> add 100W and it
should be ok
L146[10:27:51] <Cruor> ill just use
komplett premade thing
L147[10:28:01] <Cruor> find the mid range
thing, and give it a i7 7700 and a decent gpu
L148[10:28:02] <vifino> Cruor pls
L149[10:28:22] <Cruor> vifino: wat
D:
L150[10:28:29] <Izaya> pre made
thing?
L151[10:28:34] <vifino> yes.
L152[10:28:34] <Izaya> you don't mean a
prebuilt, right?
L153[10:28:40] <Cruor> its a preset
L154[10:28:41] <vifino> don't do
prebuilts, kids.
L155[10:28:45] <Cruor> and you can change
parts
L156[10:28:52] *
vifino slaps Cruor
L157[10:29:08] <Cruor> then they build and
ship it to you
L158[10:29:09] <Cruor> keep it
simple
L159[10:29:14] <Izaya> semi-related: good
budget build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xF7gf8
L160[10:29:22] <Izaya> Cruor: so you pay
for a prebuilt
L161[10:29:24] <Izaya> don't do that
L162[10:29:26] <Izaya> k
L163[10:29:51] <Cruor> Izaya: why would i
build it
L164[10:29:56] <Cruor> im not even here
when they get the parts
L165[10:29:59] <Izaya> because it's
cheaper
L166[10:30:10] <Izaya> you'll save several
hundred local currency
L167[10:30:20] <Izaya> maybe even several
thousand if you've had lots of inflation
L168[10:30:53] <Izaya> vifino: literally
can't source a 960 here
L169[10:30:53] <Cruor> https://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=11115
like this
L170[10:30:55] *
vifino relocates Izaya to germany/not hell
L171[10:31:17] <Cruor> probably only
100usd or something saved
L172[10:31:23] <vifino> Izaya: same model
i have is like 200-275 used
L173[10:31:30] <Izaya> Cruor: what is that
price in USD/AUD?
L174[10:31:35] <Izaya> vifino: USD?
L175[10:31:37] <vifino> euro
L176[10:31:38] <Cruor> 100USD in
USD?
L177[10:31:39] <Cruor> 100.
L178[10:31:46] <Izaya> no for the
machine
L179[10:31:49] <Izaya> 5.000
L180[10:31:51] <Cruor> oh
L181[10:31:52] <Izaya> is that . a
,?
L182[10:31:59] <Cruor> 590usd
L183[10:32:08] <Cruor> yea, its a thousand
seperator
L184[10:32:27] <Izaya> Mus
L185[10:32:29] <Izaya> hehehehe
L186[10:32:38] <Cruor> you know, there is
a translate button :I
L187[10:32:49] <vifino> Izaya: oh, wow,
250 euro is 375 aud
L188[10:33:01] <Cruor> Izaya: this is
like, the standard preset for "entry gamer"
L189[10:33:05] <Izaya> vifino: yup, I can
get a 1050 for $250ish
L190[10:33:09] <Cruor> then we just click
some buttons
L191[10:33:19] <Izaya> Cruor: I mean the
price is okay enough
L192[10:33:25] <Izaya> surprisingly
L193[10:33:32] <Izaya> you must have like,
competition or sane people over there
L194[10:33:42] <Izaya> add up the price of
the parts and see the difference
L195[10:34:01] <Izaya>
s/1050/1050Ti/
L196[10:34:01] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
vifino: yup, I can get a 1050Ti for $250ish
L197[10:34:01] <Cruor> well, they are the
leading stuff in norway <_<
L198[10:34:14] <Cruor> cant complain
L199[10:34:22] <Izaya> but yeah add the
part prices together
L200[10:34:29] <Cruor> unless you want a
14year old and 44year old woman to set it together :I
L201[10:34:30] <Izaya> can you order
without processor or GPU?
L202[10:34:33] <Cruor> without it
dying
L203[10:34:39] <Cruor> nah
L204[10:34:48] <Cruor> you can take away
HDD/mouse/screen/keyboard though
L205[10:34:48] <Izaya> that's a pain
L206[10:34:55] <Cruor> or select parts
manually
L207[10:35:05] <Izaya> and Cruor, I had my
6-year-old nephew assembling computers for me
L208[10:35:11] <Izaya> (for much less than
minimum wage)
L209[10:35:16] <Cruor> i dont trust him
<_<
L210[10:35:18] <Izaya> (muahahaha)
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L212[10:36:14] <Izaya> and uh
L213[10:36:19] <Izaya> I dunt see the
english button on the page
L214[10:36:24] <Cruor> 1480usd when i
added 1070 and i7 7700
L215[10:36:34] <Cruor> ask your browser to
do it :p
L216[10:36:58] <Izaya> don't have an addon
for it
L217[10:37:11] <Cruor> ah
L218[10:37:39] <Cruor> comes with free
fookin keyboard
L219[10:37:40] <Cruor> VALUE
L220[10:37:47] <Izaya> :o a keyboard
L221[10:37:56] <Izaya> like someone you
know doesn't have a room full of them
L222[10:38:04] <gamax92> :P
L223[10:38:05] <Cruor> oh, this is
2x4gb
L224[10:38:31] <Cruor> 1600USD
L225[10:38:34] <Cruor> LEEEETS GO
L226[10:38:49] <Cruor> .... maybe thats a
bit expensive
L227[10:39:04] <Cruor> is there cheaper i7
even
L228[10:39:24] <Cruor> 1060 is so much
cheaper than 1070 .-.
L229[10:39:29] <Izaya> this'll seem
contradictory
L230[10:39:33] <Izaya> but if you want to
go cheap
L231[10:39:40] <Izaya> buy a used Dell or
similar desktop
L232[10:39:54] <Izaya> with like, a
Haswell or similar CPU
L233[10:39:59] <Izaya> throw a better GPU
and more RAM at it
L234[10:40:01] <Cruor> eeeeeh :I
L235[10:40:13] <Izaya> and the cases on
those honestly look nice
L236[10:40:23] <Cruor> are i5s decent
these days?
L237[10:40:34] <Vexatos> My computer cost
€850 in total :I
L238[10:40:39] <gamax92> C2Q still
decent
L239[10:40:46] <Izaya> Mine has a running
total of $550
L240[10:40:50] <Izaya> that's AUD
L241[10:41:06] <gamax92> Why must AUD use
the same symbol but different value :I
L242[10:41:12] <Cruor> Vexatos: $2000-2250
or something
L243[10:41:13] <Vexatos> It included a
5-year full warranty though
L244[10:41:15] <Cruor> git on my
level
L245[10:41:22] <Vexatos> if only the
company granting it hadn't died
L246[10:41:51] <Cruor> parts were
expensive back in the day .-.
L247[10:42:29] <Vexatos> €130 SSD, €100
GPU and €220 CPU were the most expensive parts I think
>_>
L248[10:42:35] <Izaya> most expensive
machine I own is a Mac with 256M of RAM
L249[10:42:40] <Izaya> when it was bought
it was 900AUD
L250[10:42:42] <Cruor> 1060 and i5 7600K?
:o
L251[10:42:44] <Izaya> it was a shitbox
back then
L252[10:42:55] <Vexatos> no :I
L253[10:43:13] <Izaya> they charged 900AUD
for an 800Mhz processor, in 2003
L254[10:43:26] <Vexatos> uh what was the
thing again
L255[10:43:28] <Vexatos> Client:
HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: LinuxMint "sonya" 18.2
• CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1231 v3 @ 3.40GHz
(2,59GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15,2 GiB Total (11,0
GiB Free) Swap: 7,7 GiB Total (7,7 GiB Free) •
Storage: 902,0 GB / 1,2 TB (324,9 GB Free) •
VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] @ Intel
Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3 Processor DRAM Controller •
Uptime: 8h 52m 58s
L256[10:43:29] <Cruor> its 3000NOK cheaper
now :I
L257[10:43:30] <Vexatos> there we go
L258[10:43:35] <Cruor> how do i do that?
:I
L259[10:43:39] <Vexatos> hexchat
L260[10:43:39] <Izaya> 1231 v3
L261[10:43:42] <Izaya> nice choice
L262[10:43:45] <Vexatos> Window -> send
system info
L263[10:43:46] <Cruor> i have hexchat u
dodo
L264[10:43:52] <Vexatos> is a plugin
L265[10:43:57] <Cruor> what
L266[10:43:58] <Vexatos> Izaya, yes, yes
it is
L267[10:44:01] <Vindex> Huh vex, you are
having server as your desktop :-D
L268[10:44:04] <Vexatos> It's like, super
cheap for what it can do
L269[10:44:10] <Izaya> that's my upgrade
plan for this box
L270[10:44:10] <Vexatos> Since it's a
server CPU
L271[10:44:17] <Izaya> when I get sick of
the i3
L272[10:44:24] <Vexatos> I honestly don't
know what the disadvantage is
L273[10:44:25] <Izaya> I have a server
with a 1231 v3
L274[10:44:29] <Vexatos> over its desktop
equivalent
L275[10:44:33] <Izaya> disadvantage is
inability to OC
L276[10:44:34] <Vexatos> Because it is
only one third of the price
L277[10:44:35] <Cruor> you dont need a
plugin for that info .-.
L278[10:44:36] <Mimiru> Client:
HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64)
• CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4.01GHz)
• Memory: 31.9 GiB Total (9.8 GiB Free) •
Storage: 769.1 GiB / 1.4 TiB (642.2 GiB Free) •
VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 • Uptime: 2w 2d
22h 11m 29s
L279[10:44:39] <Vexatos> Oh, well, I do
not care about OC
L280[10:44:45] <Izaya> yeah me
neither
L281[10:44:48] <Vexatos> So yea
L282[10:44:53] <Vexatos> A third of the
price was
L283[10:44:54] <Vexatos> uuuh
L284[10:44:59] <Vexatos> a good argument
for it :I
L285[10:45:04] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/eWQ33jH.png
L286[10:45:09] <Izaya> ^ my box
L287[10:45:13] <Vexatos> It's much better
than anything else in that price range
L288[10:45:19] <Vexatos> I, like, never
max it out
L289[10:45:40] <Cruor> 1290usd good
enough? .-.
L290[10:45:44] <Cruor> remember, this is
norway
L291[10:45:46] <payonel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anxxe8SdX78
L292[10:45:46] <MichiBot> Timesharing
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L293[10:45:53] <Vexatos> Izaya, also, The
highest power consumption this thing used (with max out CPU) was
like 150W
L294[10:45:57] <Vexatos> So uuh
L295[10:45:59] <Vexatos> is good :I
L296[10:46:03] <gamax92> Izaya: good sir
go slap a SSD in that thing
L297[10:46:16] <Cruor> do 1290 / 1.25, and
you might get the price outside of norway <_<
L298[10:46:24] <Izaya> gamax92: don't have
$70 to drop on an SSD
L299[10:46:29] <Cruor> wow, its 260USD
cheaper!!11!
L300[10:46:33] <Cruor> who would have
guessed <_<
L301[10:46:33] <Vexatos> I have an SSD and
an HDD in this thing
L302[10:46:40] <Vexatos> the SSD contains
all the software, obviously
L303[10:46:53] <Vexatos> Been running very
well since 2014, so I'd say it was quite worth the money
L304[10:46:54] <Izaya> besides, splitting
the SSD between Windows and Linux sounds like slitting my own
throat
L305[10:46:56] <gamax92> Small Software
Drive
L306[10:47:04] <Vexatos> Pretty much,
yea
L307[10:47:11] <gamax92> Huge Data
Disk
L308[10:47:17] <Izaya> then again you
don't really need it for linux
L309[10:47:21] <Vexatos> It's only
1TB
L310[10:47:32] <Cruor> so is 1060 and i5
7600k good enough? .-.
L311[10:47:32] <Vexatos> I am running Mint
on this thing (as you can see)
L312[10:47:35] <Vexatos> is nice :I
L313[10:47:35] <Cruor> fok if i know what
he does
L314[10:47:39] <Cruor> plays world of
tanks or something
L315[10:47:40] <Izaya> It helps, sure, but
you'll boot faster with linux on spinning rust than windows on an
SSD
L316[10:47:45] <Izaya> hibernate does not
count
L317[10:47:53] <Vexatos> Mint has
hibernate :⁾
L318[10:47:54] <gamax92> Izaya: ehh
...
L319[10:48:01] <gamax92> atleast for me
that's wrong
L320[10:48:13] <Izaya> gamax92: tbh mild
exaggeration
L321[10:48:17] <gamax92> both massively
got faster
L322[10:48:24] <Izaya> I have to put in an
encryption password
L323[10:48:31] <gamax92> oh okay
L324[10:48:33] <Izaya> and then wait 10
minutes for GRUB to do its thing
L325[10:48:33] <gamax92> fair enough
L326[10:48:50] <Izaya> so I can't really
reliably measure
L327[10:49:08] <Vexatos> I have no idea
why people would ever buy intel CPU from the desktop series when
their server equivalents are just a heckload cheaper
L328[10:49:23] <Vexatos> the people who
actually do OC are few and far between compared to
"normal" people :I
L329[10:49:23] <Izaya> Vexatos: https://i.imgur.com/sGE6ZlL.png this is my
server
L330[10:49:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: because
I have to cut plastic out of my cpu socket to use the server
cpu
L331[10:49:45] <Cruor> Vexatos: what
socket is on the server cpus then .-.
L332[10:49:51] <gamax92> and also the
highest end server cpu I could find was slower than the desktop
one
L333[10:50:13] <Izaya> gamax92: actually
planning to do the socket 775/771 Xeon mod because a C2D-era Xeon
is cheaper than a C2Q
L334[10:50:23] <Izaya> for $gf's box
L335[10:50:34] <Izaya> current price for
that, all up: $15
L336[10:50:53] <Izaya> -> buying a C2D
Xeon
L337[10:51:11] <Vexatos> gamax92, I don't
know, my motherboard supports it just fine ,_,
L338[10:51:37] <Izaya> Haswell/1150 were
the last ones that support Xeon E3s unfortunately
L339[10:51:39] <Cruor> fok buying
computers ;_;
L340[10:51:39] <Vexatos> It was as easy to
install as any other one, anyway
L341[10:51:49] <Izaya> anything newer
needs a weird socket
L342[10:51:53] <Vexatos> Was the ASRock
H97M Pro4
L343[10:51:55] <Izaya> and a like $400
board
L344[10:52:06] <Vexatos> tiny thing
:I
L345[10:52:24] <Izaya> tfw blew $130 on a
SLI-capable board then one of my GPUs died
L346[10:52:31] <Izaya> why even
exist
L347[10:52:34] <Vexatos> Izaya, I never
knew about the command inxi ._. is useful
L348[10:52:46] <Izaya> Vexatos: and
preinstalled on mint!
L349[10:52:49] <Vexatos> yup
L350[10:52:52] <Vexatos> just tried
it
L351[10:52:52] <Izaya> screenfetch is
prettier though
L352[10:53:53] <Vexatos> Izaya, https://puu.sh/wFtlH/712b567e39.png
L353[10:54:02] <Izaya> lots less info
though for screenfetch https://i.imgur.com/CPaIrR4.png
L354[10:54:32] <Vexatos> I don't have a
server, only this machine
L355[10:54:34] <Vexatos> >_>
L356[10:54:45] <Izaya> I have far too many
computers >.>
L357[10:54:56] <Cruor> Vexatos: what, i
get free trash computers :I
L358[10:55:11] <Vexatos> Cruor, send me
some
L359[10:55:25] <Vexatos> Izaya, I have
also two laptops but only one of them is really functional
L360[10:55:25] <Cruor> tell me how to
leenox, and you can get the specs on heffer :p
L361[10:55:38] <Vexatos> how to leenox
what
L362[10:55:43] <Izaya> server box, gateway
box (actually a T400), desktop, laptop, Pentium III jet engine,
Core 2 Duo boxen (all 4 of them), Athlon 64 X2 box, some Pentium 4
shitboxen, an even shitboxier Mac
L363[10:55:44] <Cruor> the specs out of it
:p
L364[10:56:02] <Vexatos> well Izaya just
showed me the glory of inxi ._.
L365[10:56:03] <Vexatos> try that :P
L366[10:56:11] <Cruor> herro, this is
debian
L367[10:56:32] <Izaya> Cruor: sudo apt-get
update && sudo apt-get install inxi && sudo inxi
-v7
L368[10:56:44] <Izaya> you are magically
hacker after that
L369[10:56:46] <Izaya> 100%
guaranteed
L370[10:56:49] <Vexatos> Izaya, got this
one, a T430 and a laptop that was on sale when I bought it in 2010,
my first own computer, I was 12 years old
L371[10:56:49] <Izaya> I need a
drink.
L372[10:56:54] <Cruor> looks like it
needed a update :I
L373[10:56:55] <gamax92> Izaya: I'm not
going to downgrade :P
L374[10:57:05] <Cruor> nooope
L375[10:57:14] <gamax92> I needed the 2
extra cores
L376[10:57:22] <Cruor> no inxi for me
:I
L377[10:57:40] <Izaya> gamax92: I imagine
you aren't trying to get the cheapest quad-core box you can
though
L378[10:57:48] <Izaya> Cruor: wat
L379[10:57:52] <Izaya> I'm on Stable and I
have it
L380[10:57:58] <Cruor> apt-get update
failed
L381[10:58:00] <Cruor> world on fire
L382[10:58:04] <Izaya> do it again
L383[10:58:08] <Izaya> until it
works
L384[10:58:12] <gamax92> nah I just
decided I didn't want to bother with the CPU sticker and cutting
the socket stuff
L385[10:58:20] <gamax92> or well ... some
of them are drilled
L386[10:58:23] <Cruor> but its moved
permanently D:
L387[10:58:28] <Izaya> RIP
L388[10:58:29] <Izaya> world on fire
L389[10:58:38] <Cruor> this is
wheezy
L390[10:58:41] <Cruor> whatever version
that is
L391[10:58:42] <Izaya> gamax92: then you
apply tape to the CPU
L392[10:58:43] <gamax92> so I didn't want
to deal with either cutting the socket or drilling a notch into the
side of the cpu
L393[10:58:47] <Izaya> Cruor:
oldstable
L394[10:58:51] <Izaya> why are you running
oldstable
L395[10:58:58] <Cruor> because this box is
old
L396[10:59:03] <gamax92> lol Cruor you
messed up
L397[10:59:09] <Izaya> oldstable is about
to become oldoldstable too
L398[10:59:15] *
Cruor blame Oddstr13
L399[10:59:26] <Vexatos> inxi -v7 shows so
much info :O
L400[10:59:34] <Cruor> i just clicked
buttons and installed it D:
L401[10:59:45] <Izaya> only box I have
running wheezy is the shitbox Mac
L402[10:59:54] <Izaya> because the GPU
doesn't work properly under anything newer than a 3.4 kernel
L403[10:59:55] <Cruor> i aint updating
ch't .-.
L404[10:59:57] <Vexatos> isn't wheezy
from
L405[10:59:58] <Vexatos> like
L406[11:00:00] <Vexatos> 1562?
L407[11:00:02] <Cruor> or it will catch
fire
L408[11:00:10] <Izaya> Vexatos: it
predates mankind
L409[11:00:25] <Izaya> it was left here by
the aliens in their obelisks
L410[11:00:28] <Vexatos> So it is a
predator.
L411[11:00:37] <Izaya> I guess so.
L412[11:00:41] <Izaya> ... Shit.
L413[11:00:44] <Izaya> brb smashing
Mac
L414[11:01:14] <Vexatos> default Mint fan
control is a bit weird :I
L415[11:01:31] <gamax92> fan
control?
L416[11:01:42] <Vexatos> ventilation
L417[11:01:57] <Cruor> i think my debian
install might be old
L418[11:02:04] <Vexatos> Cruor,
"might"
L419[11:02:16] <gamax92> you mean
automatic temp -> speed cause usually that's not handled by any
linux software by default, bios takes care of that
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L421[11:02:31] <Vexatos> nah there's
software that does it
L422[11:02:32] <Cruor> Vexatos: just a
small feeling i have
L423[11:02:40] <gamax92> Vexatos:
"usually"
L424[11:02:42] <Vexatos> In this
case
L425[11:02:43] <Vexatos> yea
L426[11:02:44] <gamax92> sure you can
install software
L427[11:02:50] <gamax92> but by default
it's not installed
L428[11:02:50] <Izaya> under Linux I tend
to force all my fans to 100%
L429[11:02:51] <Vexatos> no it's here by
default >_>
L430[11:03:00] <Vexatos> Izaya, I like
conserving power
L431[11:03:21] <Izaya> headphones can
block it out and if it still overheats I'm screwed anyway
L432[11:03:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: m8 if I
install Mint in a VM and the software isn't installed by default
...
L433[11:03:26] <Vexatos> It's idling
around 80W, when I do nothing for two hours it's around 65W, normal
usage it's around 100W and full CPU it's around 150W
L434[11:03:27] <Vexatos> pretty nice
:I
L435[11:03:31] <Temia> Well, some fans
handle speed differences better than others, so fan longetivity is
just as much of a factor.
L436[11:03:32] <Cruor> so anything i can
use that works on my old potato? :p
L437[11:03:36] <Vexatos> gamax92, I know I
didn't install anything, anyway
L438[11:03:44] <Vexatos> and I know that
control is there
L439[11:03:45] <Izaya> Vexatos: my
computer uses more power than some heaters
L440[11:03:48] <Vexatos> because I looked
at the configs >_>
L441[11:03:54] <gamax92> what
configs
L442[11:03:56] <Izaya> more power than
some microwaves
L443[11:03:59] <Vexatos> fan control
configs
L444[11:04:04] <gamax92> file names
m8
L445[11:04:04] <Izaya> more power than
most kettles
L446[11:04:08] <Vexatos> Like I
remember
L447[11:04:10] <Vexatos> that was a year
ago
L448[11:04:24] <gamax92> you are running
mint now
L449[11:04:24] <Temia> Hydrodynamic
bearings may as well be reserved for 24/7 systems and never
throttled below their rated speed.
L450[11:04:53] <Vexatos> Izaya, actually,
I only bought an electricity meter a week ago to check >_>
Because my mother was claiming that the electricity bill went up by
€60 since I had this PC. Turns out I only use about 10kWh a
week
L451[11:04:56] <Syrren> re cooling: you
might want to look at thinkfan and/or TLP and/or thermald
L452[11:04:58] <gamax92> oh right I was
going to try using lua bugs on OC
L453[11:05:09] <Izaya> %remindme 10w
murder the front of your case and INSTALL MORE FANS
L454[11:05:12] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "murder the front of your case and INSTALL MORE
FANS" at 09/17/2017 11:05:09 AM
L455[11:05:27] <Izaya> how will you remind
me 5 months after december?
L456[11:05:31] <Vexatos> My case already
had 3 fans built-in so that was nice
L457[11:05:32] <Izaya> is that some time
in 2018?
L458[11:05:35] <Vexatos> my GPU has
another one
L459[11:05:39] <Vexatos> and my PSU yet
another one
L460[11:05:51] <Izaya> my case has two
fans, my CPU one, my GPU one, and my PSU one
L461[11:05:54] <Izaya> but I mean
L462[11:05:58] <Izaya> I hardly have any
case anyway
L463[11:06:00] <Vexatos> They only run on
full speed if my CPU temp reaches 65°C
L464[11:06:07] <Izaya> I might as well
remove the entire front panel and add more
L465[11:06:10] <Vexatos> It usually sits
around 30
L466[11:06:10] <Cruor> bleh, cant update
this box anyway .-.
L467[11:06:15] <Izaya> because running
GPUs at 95C is not fun
L468[11:06:25] <Cruor> only 95C?
L469[11:06:28] <Cruor> mine was 240C
L470[11:06:30] <gamax92> yep, both copies
of lua I have Segmentation fault to this line
L471[11:06:37] <Cruor> guess what happends
on 240C <_<
L472[11:06:39] <gamax92> now to try this
in OC
L473[11:06:46] <Izaya> your computer
catches fire?
L474[11:06:48] <Izaya> you die?
L475[11:06:53] <Cruor> the GPU unsolders
itself...
L476[11:06:57] <Izaya> ah
L477[11:06:59] <Cruor> heatsink fell off
:p
L478[11:07:00] <Cruor> i was like
L479[11:07:01] <Izaya> yes I've heard
about that
L480[11:07:02] <Cruor> halp
L481[11:07:05] <Vexatos> the case's fans
do not have any sensors though
L482[11:07:06] <Cruor> and shut it the
heck off
L483[11:07:08] <Izaya> in laptops
though
L484[11:07:14] <Vexatos> So I only know
the PSU and GPU fan speeds
L485[11:07:18] <Temia> 240!?
L486[11:07:23] <Cruor> didnt trust the
temp reader
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L488[11:07:26] <Temia> How was it even
running at that point?
L489[11:07:29] <Izaya> ^
L490[11:07:31] <Cruor> Temia:
exactly
L491[11:07:38] <Cruor> thats why i didnt
trust it when it said 160C or something
L492[11:07:41] <Cruor> and keep on
playing
L493[11:07:44] <Temia> The transistors
would've fucking fried
L494[11:07:46] <Cruor> then image got more
and more... broken
L495[11:07:55] <Temia> oh my god.
L496[11:08:01] <Cruor> and then i heard a
loud crash inside my case
L497[11:08:18] <Izaya> I had a GT220 that
had ... issues for a long time
L498[11:08:20] <Cruor> fun timed :I
L499[11:08:25] <Cruor> times* .-.
L500[11:08:29] <Izaya> It would only
activate the fans at >110C
L501[11:08:29] <Cruor> rip 560
L502[11:08:31] <gamax92> >160C
L503[11:08:32] <Cruor> you will be
missed
L504[11:08:34] <gamax92> >Yeah this is
fine keep using it
L505[11:08:42] <Vexatos> And here I
thought 65°C was high
L506[11:08:43] <Izaya> it shut down the
computer at 100C
L507[11:08:45] <Cruor> gamax92: it should
have turned itself off
L508[11:09:01] <Cruor> that gpu was broken
in more than one way before that <_<
L509[11:09:02] <Vexatos> Izaya, my
computer actually shuts itself down at that temp :I
L510[11:09:10] <Izaya> if I didn't
manually control the fans the thing was a shutdown timebomb
L511[11:09:13] <Temia> Well, GPUs have
higher tolerances than CPUs on average.
L512[11:09:31] <Temia> 65 is hot for a CPU
but still within reasonable operating ranges for a GPU.
L513[11:09:33] <Cruor> cant complain
though
L514[11:09:37] <Izaya> fun game:
L515[11:09:38] <Cruor> fry a 560, get a
970
L516[11:09:41] <Cruor> value.
L517[11:09:44] <gamax92> I think I set 70
as my CPU shutdown value, I've only ever had a CPU hit 100C because
fan accidentally not powered
L518[11:09:49] <Izaya> enable fans before
it kills the computer while running KDE or GNOME 3
L519[11:10:06] <gamax92> otherwise cpu was
fine and ran for a long time
L520[11:10:27] <Vexatos> My CPU only ever
reaches 60°C if I, like, use parallel with ffmpeg or
something
L521[11:10:35] <Vexatos> and then the fans
kick in
L522[11:10:36] <gamax92> my C2Q's only hit
55C under full load
L523[11:10:39] <Vexatos> so it never
reaches 70
L524[11:11:45] <Izaya> I managed to get
mine to 69C under max load running John the Ripper
L525[11:12:10] <gamax92> at some point I
have to stop "upgrading" my old hardware but ...
L526[11:12:31] <gamax92> There's a board I
can get that would support OCing and also takes up to 16GB of
DDR2
L527[11:13:19] <gamax92> Soo ...
L528[11:13:28] <gamax92> I ran that bad
lua line in OC, the entire JVM died
L529[11:13:31] <Izaya> gamax92: you could
alternatively go for a workstation/server board with dual CPU
support
L530[11:13:40] <payonel> gamax92: what
line would that be?
L531[11:13:44] <Vexatos> Also my case is,
like, way too big
L532[11:13:48] <Vexatos> It's over half
empty :I
L533[11:13:49] <payonel> vifino: vt100
application when!!!!!!!!!!!?
L534[11:14:07] <Vexatos> at least that
makes it easy to clean
L535[11:14:18] <gamax92> well that's not
good I feel like if this were on a server insta server kill
exploit
L536[11:15:09] <vifino> payonel: already a
thing. :|
L537[11:15:30] <vifino> just run my emu
with a CP/M disk, run WordMaster or w/e it was called
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L539[11:18:29] <payonel> vifino: i mean a
vt100 application for openos :)
L540[11:19:36] <vifino> payonel: bundle my
emu, good enough :3
L541[11:22:06] <Izaya> so uh
L542[11:22:11] <Izaya> now that I have n+1
DVDs
L543[11:22:14] <Izaya> wat do with
them
L544[11:23:22] <gamax92> get a laser
cutter and laser cut them
L545[11:24:17] <Temia> Get a lathe and
trim them down to 80mm
L546[11:24:21] <Temia> Burn gamecube
games
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L551[11:41:01] <LeshaInc> payonel: any
news on tree pr?
L552[11:41:31] <AshIndigo> %choose wait
till your home or do try it now!
L553[11:41:32] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: do
try it now!
L554[11:41:46] *
AshIndigo removes the do
L555[11:42:55] <payonel> LeshaInc: the
tool works fine, though i wouldn't say it runs tons faster than ls,
only very slightly. anyways, we (devs) just need to discuss adding
to bin and i'll update the ticket
L556[11:44:41] <Izaya> night of the living
Izaya 2: caffeine fueled cleaning rampage
L557[11:44:51] *
vifino adds payonel to /tmp/trash
L558[11:44:55] <LeshaInc> payonel: ls -R
falls if there're too many subdirectories
L559[11:45:02] <LeshaInc> tree
doesn't
L560[11:45:10] <payonel> LeshaInc:
quantify "too many"
L561[11:45:32] <gamax92> that sounds less
like we need tree and more we should fix ls so it doesn't
fail
L562[11:47:16] <Izaya> should get power
adaptors for all these S10es
L563[11:47:26] <Izaya> anyone want access
to like
L564[11:47:33] <Izaya> the shittiest
server in history?
L565[11:47:43] <Izaya> hell, I have 6,
anyone want one for their own use?
L566[11:47:47] <Izaya> they suck
but...
L567[11:47:59] <LeshaInc> payonel: i have
tested it with 310 directories/2622 files
L568[11:48:03] <Forecaster> I'm doing fine
with my own sucky server :P
L569[11:48:14] <LeshaInc> ls fails with
tlwy and says a thing about list for low memory systems
L570[11:48:21] <payonel> tlwy?
L571[11:48:28] <LeshaInc> loo long without
yielding
L572[11:48:41] <Izaya> I mean they could
probably run a Minecraft server each
L573[11:48:47] <Izaya> hmmmmmmm
L574[11:49:21] <vifino> payonel: what baud
rate does the openos term run at?
L575[11:49:22] <Izaya> guess I know how
I'm gonna have bunches of multice boxen now
L576[11:49:25] <vifino> 9600?
L577[11:49:38] <vifino> if it doesn't, i
need to slow things down...
L578[11:51:46] <payonel> vifino: there is
no limit imposed by openos, its tty is virtual and event
driven
L579[11:52:00] <vifino> dammit
L580[11:52:09] <vifino> time to write
artificial slowdown
L581[11:52:31] <Skye> why do you need a
slowdown?
L582[11:52:52] <vifino> for vt100
animations.
L583[11:54:13] <LeshaInc> payonel: +1
reason to rewrite ls using iterators as i did in tree
L584[11:54:29] *
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/home/amandac/Code/Workspace/minecraft/opencomputers/thistle-toy/src/thistle.ld(35):
Segment `STARTUP' does not exist
L585[11:54:41] <payonel> +1 reason to
rewrite ls to not stat a file unless needed
L586[11:54:48] <AmandaC> YES IT DOES, the
.o file in the .a file in the commandline does contain what
section, according to od65!
L587[11:55:04] <vifino> +1 reason to bug
payonel some moar
L588[11:55:10] <payonel> ls should be as
fast as `echo *` :)
L589[11:55:30] <payonel> ^ gamax92's
solution to ls :P
L590[11:56:01] <vifino> does openos
shellscript yet?
L591[11:56:07] <payonel> no
L592[11:56:17] *
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L593[11:56:25] <payonel> :/
L594[11:56:34] <LeshaInc> vifino: i'm
working on it
L595[11:56:44] <vifino> yay!
L596[11:56:51] <gamax92> and it won't be
accepted
L597[11:56:59] <LeshaInc> but it is not a
subject to change current sh
L598[11:57:01] <LeshaInc> yes
L599[11:57:13] <payonel> LeshaInc: do
please use SHELL to run your shell. because it would be a great
data point to help me make sure openos doesn't do things to not
treat your shell as a first class SHELL
L600[11:57:45] <payonel> well i'm not
considering LeshaInc's shell as a replacement nor upgrade to
openos' sh -- but rather it should be an oppm project
L601[11:57:58] <LeshaInc> ^
L602[11:58:28] <payonel> but i will
definitely support LeshaInc's shell insomuch to make sure openos
doesn't do things that make having a custom shell problematic
L603[11:58:38] <AmandaC> isn't shell
scripting the whole point of the shebang?
L604[11:58:46] <AmandaC> s/shel sc/simple
shell sc/
L605[11:59:19] <payonel> AmandaC: i could
be wrong, but i think they're referring to shell languages, having
keywords in shell such as for, while, if, etc
L606[11:59:50] <AmandaC> oh
L607[12:00:02] <Izaya> yay
L608[12:00:11] <Izaya> another generic
Realtek ethernet controller
L609[12:00:16] *
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L610[12:00:19] <Izaya> This one is even
gigabit!
L611[12:00:22] <vifino> payonel: uh, not
only
L612[12:00:27] <vifino> shebang is a big
part of that
L613[12:01:04] <Izaya> MultICE has the
best shell
L614[12:01:24] <Skye> lua best shell
L615[12:01:30] <Izaya> ^
L616[12:02:08] <payonel> yeah, and tbh,
the lua shell is the main reason i dont care to add shell scripting
to /bin/sh
L617[12:02:27] <vifino> My kernel/os had a
lua shell with a custom env that makes every unknown function be
some binary in boot:/bin
L618[12:02:42] <Izaya> vifino: fancy
metatables?
L619[12:02:44] <payonel> besides, openos
1.6 already added things like: semicolon separation for multiple
commands and boolean operators: || && !
L620[12:02:45] <Izaya> that's a good
idea
L621[12:02:45] <vifino> yes.
L622[12:02:46] <Izaya> thanx
L623[12:02:50] <Skye> could you have shell
scripts that are lists of functions and nothing more?
L624[12:02:56] <vifino> (C) vifino,
Izaya
L625[12:03:01] <vifino> :P
L626[12:03:16] <Izaya> vifino: I'll give
you a number of S10es when I see you
L627[12:03:21] <vifino> :D
L628[12:03:31] <Izaya> seriously what the
fuck else do I do with these
L629[12:03:50] <Izaya> oooh
L630[12:03:52] <Izaya> even better
L631[12:04:00] <Izaya> I can have it
autoinclude shell-related functions
L632[12:04:02] <Izaya> like mem()
L633[12:04:16] <Izaya> but they won't be
in _G
L634[12:04:39] <vifino> mine worked like
this: if it wasn't found, it'd look for the function name, load()
it, returning the function in the metatable
L635[12:04:42] <Izaya> :D I can have a
generic shell table and each shell would have an overlay of
this
L636[12:05:03] <Izaya> vifino: here's
gonna be my clever trick:
L637[12:05:21] <Izaya> _G.shtab or
something has a fun __index
L638[12:05:38] <Izaya> it checks some form
of $PATH for stuff to run
L639[12:05:53] <Izaya> and if that falls
through it goes to _G
L640[12:05:58] <Izaya> each shell would
have its own table
L641[12:06:06] <Izaya> and its __index
would be _G.shtab or whatever
L642[12:06:31] <vifino> yeah that's pretty
much how mine worked
L643[12:06:40] <Izaya> ie shell-related
functions would be shared
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L645[12:17:49] <Izaya> Am I trolling ...
myself?
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L647[12:18:07] <Izaya> This tells me
'Operating System Not Found' before throwing up GRUB
L648[12:18:10] <Izaya> ???
L649[12:23:11] <Temia> Wait, before as in
continues on to, or before as in before it can?
L650[12:25:24] <Izaya> It tells me OS not
found
L651[12:25:27] <Izaya> then I press a
key
L652[12:25:33] <Izaya> then GRUB comes
up
L653[12:25:39] <vifino> Lovely.
L654[12:25:40] <Izaya> did I set that up
at some point to mess with people?
L655[12:35:53] <gamax92> mfw debian sid
does not have the bleeding edge build of some package
L656[12:36:15] <gamax92> and is 3 versions
out of date
L657[12:36:20] <Temia> Is this a BIOS or
UEFI system?
L658[12:39:26] <Izaya> BIOS
L659[12:41:22] <Temia> How bizarre.
L660[12:41:28] <Temia> Wait
L661[12:41:35] <Temia> Is the disk even in
the usual boot order?
L662[12:41:45] <vifino> Is the mobo UEFI
compatible?
L663[12:41:47] <Temia> It might be
complaining and then checking all possible boot devices on the
second pass.
L664[12:42:08] <vifino> Tries UEFI, gets
"nope, nuttin here", then bios.
L665[12:42:15] <vifino> bbl, goin
home
L666[12:44:08] <Izaya> Temia: only thing
in the boot order is the HDD
L667[12:44:17] <Izaya> my theory: I bumped
it and the HDD was out for a second or two
L668[12:44:23] <Izaya> pressed the button
and it found it again
L669[12:44:25] <Temia> Possible.
L670[13:31:30] <Temia> There's only one
HDD attached to the machine, right? No externals?
L671[13:32:07] <CompanionCube> O.o
L672[14:06:10] <Skye> IIRC, operating
system not found is..
L673[14:06:15] <Skye> the bootsector
L674[14:06:17] <Skye> going
L675[14:06:22] <Skye> "uh no OS
here"
L676[14:09:05] <Temia> Nah, it's likely
the BIOS. I've had the same error when it tried to boot after I
pulled a secure erase on a disk.
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L680[15:44:46] <gamax92> ahh yeah, Windows
MBR says "Invalid partition table" "Error loading
operating system" "Missing operating system"
L681[15:44:57] <gamax92> Syslinux's MBR
will say "Missing operating system" "Multiple active
partitions" "Operating system load error"
L682[15:45:03] <gamax92> so, that's a BIOS
message
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L686[16:24:22] <AmandaC> gamax92: if I stz
$E008 and $E05E -- I shouldn't be getting any irqs at all,
yes?
L687[16:25:42] <gamax92> yeah
L688[16:26:17] <DaMachinator> I
L689[16:26:25] <gamax92> don't
L690[16:26:29] <DaMachinator> You
L691[16:26:42] <DaMachinator> ok
L692[16:26:50] *
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L693[16:27:48] <AmandaC> hrm, time to
restart with cpuslowdown and tracing enabled.
L694[16:31:24] <AshIndigo> %choose top or
bottom
L695[16:31:25] <MichiBot> AshIndigo:
bottom
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L697[17:01:57] <AmandaC> gamax92: got any
suggestions for another disassembler than da65? I want to be able
to see the address the opcodes are starting on, so I can better
line up with the cpu trace.
L698[17:02:17] <gamax92> uhhh
L699[17:06:02] <AmandaC> gamax92: also!
should a brk be causing an irq? That's all I can guess for why I'm
seeing irqs happen, it's going IRC -> my IRQ handler -> RTI
-> BRK -> My IRQ handler
L700[17:06:13] <AmandaC> s/IRC/IRQ/
L701[17:06:14] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
gamax92: also! should a brk be causing an irq? That's all I can
guess for why I'm seeing irqs happen, it's going IRQ -> my IRQ
handler -> RTI -> BRK -> My IRQ handler
L702[17:06:20] <gamax92> yeah, BRK is a
software IRQ
L703[17:06:23] <AmandaC> ah
L704[17:06:38] <gamax92> goes to the same
place as hardware IRQ's go except the B flag is set
L705[17:09:12] <AmandaC> okay, that
explains the phantom IRQs then, but what's causing it to go to brk.
:|
L706[17:09:40] <gamax92> BRK's opcode is
00, so empty memory?
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L708[17:14:29] <Temia> Is its BRK worse
than its byte?
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L710[17:25:54] <gamax92> dunno what OS X
version to target.
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L713[17:58:20] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEVADfcXYAARvlj.jpg:large
kinda nice, but the legs/arms are a bit too thin
L714[18:00:21] <gamax92> interesting, a
program called fstransform to attempt converting filesystems in
place
L715[18:00:51] <Inari> But why
L716[18:02:46] <gamax92> ext4 to xfs
L717[18:03:07] <Inari> But why
L718[18:03:12] <gamax92> Inari: I do not
like that eye
L719[18:03:42] <Inari> gamax92: not
particularily liking or dislikin that
L720[18:03:49] <gamax92> and deduplication
and decompression
L721[18:03:57] <gamax92> to save
space
L722[18:04:50] <gamax92> I dunno a few
distros have xfs as default now
L723[18:37:13] <AmandaC> %choose banished
or other
L724[18:37:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
banished
L725[18:37:42] <AmandaC> first:
dinner.
L726[18:38:22] <Temia> Hmm.
L727[18:46:30] <gamax92> freeing up all
the disk space
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L729[19:22:32] <AshIndigo> ~markov
Inari
L730[19:22:33] <ocdoc> further can tell a
lie back down to repeat till you get to the turret you rightclcik
the item you wanted to deifne any "center"
L731[19:25:22] <gamax92> ~markov
Inari
L732[19:25:23] <ocdoc> So lets remove
linux do line that is...
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L735[20:30:07] <AmandaC> removing linux
sure will clean out the hard drive, indeed.
L736[20:30:21] <AmandaC> One could argue
the same is true of any os.
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L740[21:31:05] <CompanionCube> gamax92:
XFS has compression now?
L741[21:36:24] <gamax92> ... oops. it does
not
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L747[23:12:56] <gamax92> hmm ... to
install freebsd.
L748[23:30:42] <Temia> one does not simply
install FreeBSD.
L749[23:31:09] <gamax92> I think I'm
simply installing it atm
L750[23:31:38] <Izaya> Install it
complexly
L751[23:42:50] <gamax92> Temia: okay it
doesn't work
L752[23:44:25] *
Temia patpats
L753[23:44:36] <Temia> Sounds like we need
a fellowship
L754[23:47:04] <gamax92> pkg: command not
found
L755[23:50:47] <gamax92> wget and curl are
not here ...
L756[23:53:46] <gamax92> del acts like
backspace
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