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L7[03:04:37] <Forecaster> java.io.FileNotFoundException: File 'C:\Users\Forecaster\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\assets\indexes\legacy.json' does not exist
L8[03:04:40] <Forecaster> what.
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L15[05:21:51] <Saphire> hi
L16[05:23:31] <g> Anyone up for a couple rounds of jackbox?
L17[05:23:55] <g> I'm hosting it atm and could use a few more players
L18[05:25:29] <Forecaster> I would be but I'm busy overhauling my publishing system
L19[05:25:50] <g> D:
L20[05:25:56] <g> Gotta take a break sometime :3
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L22[06:30:38] <MGR> Well
L23[06:30:51] <MGR> The lying laptop of yesterday makes a re-appearance
L24[06:30:58] <MGR> It now appears that the MBR got destroyed
L25[06:34:32] <MGR> @Ady (WriteEscape) oh hey I forgot to ask
L26[06:34:39] <MGR> you were working on an alarm system, right?
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L28[06:51:48] <Ady (WriteEscape)> yes @MGR i need to actually put in the deterant
L29[06:53:27] <MGR> @Ady (WriteEscape) I have you covered
L30[06:53:49] <MGR> https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/TACEATS/tree/master/TACEATS2
L31[06:54:00] <MGR> @Ady (WriteEscape) that will make an excellent base defence
L32[06:55:18] <Ady (WriteEscape)> we have turrets in just plain opencomputers :O
L33[06:55:54] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i was thinking of just using rtfools sheilds, lol
L34[06:57:21] <MGR> It's in OpenSecurity mod
L35[06:57:34] <Ady (WriteEscape)> is that 1.10?
L36[06:57:39] <MGR> uh
L37[06:57:44] <MGR> @Mimiru
L38[06:58:01] <MGR> we got dat 1.10 update for OpenSecurity yet?
L39[06:59:08] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i couldnt find it when i was hunting for mods
L40[07:00:12] <Ady (WriteEscape)> do noteblocks need adaptors or can i just tune and cable them up?
L41[07:00:49] <MGR> I'm not sure
L42[07:01:00] <MGR> In any case @Ady (WriteEscape) OpenSecurity works for 1.7 ?
L43[07:01:15] <MGR> I heard it was in the progress of an update, but I don't know where @Mimiru is with that
L44[07:01:18] <MGR> Gotta ask her
L45[07:01:36] <Ady (WriteEscape)> :)
L46[07:01:47] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i can always be a test dummy
L47[07:01:50] <MGR> Also, OS entity detectors are better than motion sensors imo
L48[07:02:45] <Ady (WriteEscape)> yup, its for a pranking based series
L49[07:02:51] <MGR> ah
L50[07:03:04] <MGR> well, TACEATS2 would work out well for stuff like that
L51[07:03:12] <MGR> but I don't think it will work in 1.10 quite yet
L52[07:03:31] <MGR> TACEATS-U would just let you troll them so hard
L53[07:03:38] <Ady (WriteEscape)> mhm
L54[07:03:40] <MGR> but that's nowhere near completion
L55[07:05:13] <Ady (WriteEscape)> lol, my script for what i have now confuses my brain
L56[07:05:38] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i wish you could do: component.gpu(uuid)
L57[07:05:49] <Ady (WriteEscape)> for example
L58[07:06:03] <MGR> you can do component.proxy(uuid) I think
L59[07:06:07] <MGR> and that would be the same thing
L60[07:06:32] <Ady (WriteEscape)> <-- php programmer
L61[07:06:34] <MGR> local gpu1 = component.proxy(uuid) would give you a gpu1 object you could do functions with and stuff
L62[07:06:41] <MGR> Never used php
L63[07:07:18] <Ady (WriteEscape)> its...interesting
L64[07:07:25] <MGR> That's a bonus
L65[07:08:05] <Ady (WriteEscape)> yup, getting used to the syntax of lua again
L66[07:08:08] <Forecaster> that'd be "uuid"
L67[07:08:13] <Forecaster> to be specific
L68[07:08:31] <Ady (WriteEscape)> yes
L69[07:08:56] <Forecaster> and you can use component.get("partial uuid")
L70[07:09:09] <Forecaster> that outputs the complete uuid as a string if it finds it
L71[07:09:34] <Forecaster> if you don't want to type the whole thing
L72[07:09:45] <Forecaster> since .proxy needs the whole address
L73[07:10:08] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i prefer the whole string
L74[07:10:20] <MGR> I was watching the ad video for the mouse I bought
L75[07:10:29] <MGR> It describes it as being chock full of pure science
L76[07:10:43] <Forecaster> technically true
L77[07:10:44] <MGR> I was like, "Good, because I would hate it if the inside of my mouse was MAGIC"
L78[07:10:51] <MGR> yes
L79[07:11:05] <MGR> technically true is the best kind of true
L80[07:11:48] <Ady (WriteEscape)> lol, hey atleast in lua i dont need to do === true
L81[07:12:53] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i do need to start learning about functions for util scripts
L82[07:19:42] <Forecaster> speaking of php, my publishing system consists of probably around 2k lines
L83[07:19:54] <Forecaster> it's a dance trying to make changes to it like I am right now
L84[07:21:17] <Forecaster> the main index file has 1500 lines of php and html in it
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L92[08:31:21] <S3> Forecaster: get rid of php now.
L93[08:31:25] <S3> it's obsolete
L94[08:31:29] <S3> and it's evil
L95[08:33:41] <S3> hey Turtle
L96[08:33:45] <Turtle> o/
L97[08:34:15] <Forecaster> oh sure, lets re-write 2k lines of code just because somebody doesn't like the language I'm using :P
L98[08:49:14] <vifino> s/somebody/nobody/ s/like/likes/
L99[08:49:14] <MichiBot> vifino: Invalid regex extra non-whitespace characters found after substitute command in sed script: s/somebody/nobody/ s/like/likes/
L100[08:49:18] <vifino> pls
L101[08:49:22] <vifino> s/somebody/nobody/
L102[08:49:22] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> oh sure, lets re-write 2k lines of code just because nobody doesn't like the language I'm using :P
L103[08:49:27] <S3> Forecaster: what does it do
L104[08:49:29] <vifino> s/like/likes/
L105[08:49:29] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> oh sure, lets re-write 2k lines of code just because nobody doesn't likes the language I'm using :P
L106[08:49:31] <S3> I can do it in 1 line
L107[08:49:32] <S3> :D
L108[08:49:35] <S3> I bet you
L109[08:49:37] <vifino> wait, fail
L110[08:49:41] <S3> the line will say: exit;
L111[08:49:41] <vifino> s/likes/like/
L112[08:49:41] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> oh sure, lets re-write 2k lines of code just because nobody doesn't like the language I'm using :P
L113[08:49:48] <vifino> ?_?
L114[08:49:59] <S3> but no seriously it probably doesn't have to be 2k lines comeon
L115[08:50:12] <vifino> s/doesn't like/likes/
L116[08:50:12] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> oh sure, lets re-write 2k lines of code just because nobody likes the language I'm using :P
L117[08:50:16] <vifino> there we go
L118[08:50:38] <vifino> onl took me, what, four tries?
L119[08:51:53] <S3> vifino: :D
L120[08:52:25] <S3> vifino: S3IX unloads the kernel from memory as soon as it boots.
L121[08:52:36] <S3> I'm wondering if my OS will actually use less memory than OpenOS...
L122[08:52:41] <S3> we'll have to have payonel test it
L123[08:53:13] <Forecaster> yeah that sure convinced me
L124[08:53:18] <S3> watch as I develop an OS that uses less than 20K...
L125[08:53:19] <S3> :D
L126[08:53:39] <S3> Forecaster: whatchya doin with it?
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L129[09:00:47] <Forecaster> it manages my youtube videos
L130[09:20:15] <Corded> * Lizzy snuggless her vifino
L131[09:20:29] <Corded> * Lizzy snuggelss her vifino
L132[09:20:48] <20kdc> it seems you snuggle your vifino every day
L133[09:20:54] <Lizzy> yes
L134[09:20:59] <Lizzy> he is very snuggly
L135[09:25:01] <Lizzy> I wonder if my step-dad has gotten the network plug he threw away out of the bin
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L142[10:07:36] <S3> you just wait until you're married
L143[10:07:50] <S3> vifino: ^
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L145[10:12:15] <Saphire> Muahahahaha
L146[10:12:56] * Saphire notices one of the latest GitHub issues, mumbles about MineOS
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L149[10:25:00] <Forecaster> sigh
L150[10:25:04] <Forecaster> stupid content id
L151[10:30:53] <Izaya> stupid copyright
L152[10:33:10] <Forecaster> I'm more annoyed with the crazy system surrounding it
L153[10:33:34] <Forecaster> which spawned the hostile content id system among other things
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L155[10:42:21] <S3> quantsini:mineos
L156[10:42:24] <S3> ...
L157[10:42:27] <S3> mineos?
L158[10:42:31] <S3> what's so great about mineos?
L159[10:42:51] <Forecaster> it mines os's?
L160[10:43:03] <Forecaster> providing you with unlimited os's
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L164[10:53:08] <Lizzy> :3
L165[11:02:36] <S3> WHAT THE FUUU
L166[11:02:37] <S3> 3rd gear is gone but have a good tranny with it. Might already be swapped by the time it comes to trade or sell.
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L168[11:03:19] <S3> what kind of sentence is that
L169[11:03:31] <S3> "3rd gear is gone but the transmission is good"
L170[11:03:33] <S3> ....uh
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L172[11:09:08] <Kodos> He means he has another tranny to put into it
L173[11:09:15] <Kodos> And that by the time it comes to trade or sell, it'll be swapped in
L174[11:11:01] <hampe321> Anyone here got any experience with this ChenThread image viewer program?
L175[11:12:55] <Forecaster> probably not, why?
L176[11:14:09] <hampe321> It looked kinda cool, but I have no idea how to use it
L177[11:15:19] <hampe321> Not sure if I can send links, it's on the front page of the "programs" section, however
L178[11:15:46] <Forecaster> you run it with an image file as the argument?
L179[11:19:08] <hampe321> I'm kinda new to OC, but I assume I'd use the wget command to download an image file?
L180[11:20:18] <Forecaster> presumably it can only display images that's been converted by the converter by the same name
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L182[11:30:40] <payonel> S3: i bet you can use less memory than openos. keep in mind that openos does quite a lot that a mini os omit
L183[11:32:39] <payonel> now, could you optimize openos to reduce memory better than me? sure:) memory optimization is a passion of mine, but i'm not the best. it's something i really enjoy and something i pay a fair bit of attention to
L184[11:33:03] <Forecaster> new xkcd
L185[11:33:05] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/1790/
L186[11:33:31] <payonel> btw, i was able to split the buffer library into what is needed for boot and what isn't (using some delay-type tactics for the split to be transparent to user code) and saved some more memory for boot
L187[11:33:40] <payonel> so 1.6.1 is 2k cheaper than 1.6
L188[11:33:50] <Forecaster> yay
L189[11:34:21] <Forecaster> I can probably afford 2000 pesos
L190[11:35:15] <payonel> 1.6: ~169k, 1.6.1: 167k
L191[11:36:13] <payonel> Forecaster: in schemkles
L192[11:36:19] <payonel> s/em/me/
L193[11:36:19] <MichiBot> <payonel> Forecaster: in schmekles
L194[11:49:22] <Vexatos> payonel, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2237 :⁾
L195[11:55:08] <payonel> inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZnDVrfwm8
L196[11:55:11] <MichiBot> Super Mario Cat | length: 1m 11s | Likes: 54,108 Dislikes: 1,556 Views: 6,742,757 | by Mr.TVCow | Published On 5/4/2014
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L198[12:01:24] <Inari> Oh look
L199[12:01:28] <Inari> Enter the Gungeon for $7
L200[12:01:38] <payonel> inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZnDVrfwm8
L201[12:01:38] <MichiBot> Super Mario Cat | length: 1m 11s | Likes: 54,108 Dislikes: 1,556 Views: 6,742,757 | by Mr.TVCow | Published On 5/4/2014
L202[12:02:45] <Inari> Haha, thats pretty well done, cute cat :o
L203[12:03:36] <Inari> Sadly Enter the Gungeon sounds too bullet helly for me
L204[12:05:40] <Forecaster> it's very bullet hell-y
L205[12:05:58] <S3> gradius
L206[12:06:19] <Inari> Forecaster: :< not a game for me then
L207[12:08:47] <Forecaster> I've played 246 hours of it
L208[12:08:50] <Forecaster> :3
L209[12:09:56] <Inari> Hehe
L210[12:10:05] <Inari> I just suck at bullet hell :P Can't keep track of all the stuff haha
L211[12:10:36] <Forecaster> I sucked at it too in the beginning, then I got better
L212[12:16:02] <Inari> Yeahbut I guess I don't have much interest in getting better XD
L213[12:17:17] <payonel> git gud
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L216[12:27:47] <payonel> http://cluelesshero.tumblr.com/post/155650012778/85-convenient-item
L217[12:27:50] <payonel> i like ^
L218[12:36:04] <Forecaster> oh no, the gungeon is not like that
L219[12:36:15] <Forecaster> sometimes it will *not* give you what you need :P
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L223[12:40:26] <Ady (WriteEscape)> are cables in opencomputers counted as the whole block?
L224[12:40:40] <Forecaster> what do you mean?
L225[12:40:44] <Forecaster> they're multiparts
L226[12:41:36] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i'm trying to see if theres a way to put enderio, and oc cables in the same phsyical block
L227[12:41:42] <Forecaster> no
L228[12:42:13] <Ady (WriteEscape)> is it technically possible?
L229[12:42:24] <Forecaster> sure
L230[12:42:30] <Forecaster> if someone added an OC conduit
L231[12:43:07] <Vexatos> ...but
L232[12:43:09] <Vexatos> there is one
L233[12:43:11] <Vexatos> .-.
L234[12:43:16] <Ady (WriteEscape)> i mean theres already a unused network conduit
L235[12:43:22] <Vexatos> "unused"
L236[12:43:25] <Vexatos> those _are_ OC conduts
L237[12:43:27] <Vexatos> conduits*
L238[12:43:33] <Forecaster> I don't use EIO so I wouldn't know
L239[12:43:45] <Vexatos> That's the only thing they are
L240[12:43:46] <Vexatos> OC cables
L241[12:43:47] <Vexatos> :X
L242[12:44:49] <Ady (WriteEscape)> ooooo! so i wasn't massively wrong, lol
L243[12:46:02] <payonel> enderio calls them network conduits, right?
L244[12:46:15] <Forecaster> apparently
L245[12:46:30] <S3> I should write my own minifier
L246[12:46:34] <payonel> i use them, they are great :) except standing on them makes you bounce funny
L247[12:46:44] <S3> can riting a minifier really be that hard? lol
L248[12:47:04] <Forecaster> just make it return ""
L249[12:47:08] <S3> ...
L250[12:47:12] <Forecaster> that's about as minified as you can get :D
L251[12:47:16] <S3> infinite lossless compression!
L252[12:47:20] <S3> lossy*
L253[12:47:44] <Forecaster> and instantly fixes all bugs
L254[12:48:17] <S3> lol.
L255[12:48:22] <S3> but it creates one
L256[12:49:08] <hampe321> does anyone know how to get the "tape" floppy?
L257[12:50:27] <Forecaster> craft a floppy with a scrench
L258[12:50:34] <Forecaster> repeat until profit
L259[12:50:38] <hampe321> There doesn't seem to be such a recipe?
L260[12:50:44] <Forecaster> do it anyway
L261[12:51:02] <Forecaster> if that doesn't work update OC
L262[12:53:44] <S3> omg
L263[12:53:48] <S3> tape drives
L264[12:54:36] <hampe321> Nope, can't craft anything with a scrench and floppy
L265[12:55:57] <hampe321> You wouldn't happen to know when that feature was added? I'm running 1.6.1.11 for 1.7.10
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L267[12:56:34] <Forecaster> no idea
L268[12:56:36] <Forecaster> ask Vexatos
L269[12:56:39] <Forecaster> :P
L270[12:59:22] <payonel> what about just a floppy->floppy? doesn't that rotate the loot item? (start with the openos floppy)
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L272[13:01:03] <hampe321> Doesn't seem like it
L273[13:01:20] <hampe321> Besides, there's another recipe for the openos floppy, regular floppy and a manual
L274[13:01:57] <Forecaster> I think you misunderstood that
L275[13:03:25] <hampe321> Just putting a floppy in the crafting grid clears all data from it, and gives the exact same floppy back
L276[13:03:42] <Forecaster> make an openos floppy, craft it with a scrench
L277[13:04:12] <hampe321> Oh.. that's working
L278[13:04:39] <hampe321> But the tape doesn't exist tho...
L279[13:04:46] <hampe321> Just rotated through all of them
L280[13:06:02] <Forecaster> does it have a recipe?
L281[13:06:54] <payonel> i dont know about the tape floppy, tape is from the computronics mod
L282[13:07:10] <hampe321> Scrench recipe, no, none of them have, other recipe, none there either
L283[13:07:18] <payonel> yeah, there is no tape loot
L284[13:07:36] <payonel> why are you looking for a "tape" loot floppy anyways?
L285[13:08:05] <hampe321> To install the "tape" program
L286[13:08:23] <payonel> i am unfamiliar with a tape program, but i dont know the computronics mod
L287[13:11:04] <Vexatos> <Forecaster> craft a floppy with a scrench
L288[13:11:06] <Vexatos> not quite
L289[13:11:13] <Vexatos> Forecaster, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/2209
L290[13:11:26] <Forecaster> ah
L291[13:11:57] <hampe321> So, only way to currently get it is as dungeon/mineshaft chest loot?
L292[13:12:04] <Vexatos> Not even that
L293[13:12:08] <Vexatos> I don't think there is a way
L294[13:12:20] <Vexatos> just cheat one in
L295[13:12:30] <hampe321> On a server tho :/
L296[13:12:34] <Temia> I'm surprised you can't just nondestructively craft a floppy with a tape drive for it.
L297[13:12:43] <Forecaster> ask the admin to add a recipe
L298[13:12:48] <Vexatos> yea
L299[13:13:05] <Vexatos> Temia, nondestructive recipes are quite hard to do
L300[13:13:11] <Vexatos> every mod needs their own custom handler for them
L301[13:13:19] <Forecaster> not with minetweaker :P
L302[13:13:28] <Forecaster> for the admin that is
L303[13:13:30] <Inari> You'd think MC makes it easy given its own recipes have that
L304[13:13:31] <Temia> Ah.
L305[13:13:49] <Vexatos> Inari, it does?
L306[13:13:52] <Temia> Inari: Minecraft loves to hardcode everything.
L307[13:13:55] <Vexatos> I have no idea >_>
L308[13:13:57] <Inari> Buckets don't tend to be used up?D:
L309[13:14:15] <Vexatos> ah that's much different
L310[13:14:18] <Vexatos> buckets are hardcoded
L311[13:14:18] <Ady (WriteEscape)> is there a guide on how to make a network in OC?
L312[13:14:35] <Forecaster> place things next to eachother
L313[13:14:38] <Forecaster> that's a network :P
L314[13:15:03] <Inari> Webbing 101: A spider's guide
L315[13:15:13] <hampe321> I had originally planned to use the ytdl program I found on openprograms github, but it doesn't seem to be working, unsure if I'm using it incorrectly tho
L316[13:15:19] <Temia> It'd be nice if Forge refactored the bucket code for extensibility, but eh .-.
L317[13:15:52] <Vexatos> hampe321, you can still download the tape program manually
L318[13:16:22] <Vexatos> hampe321, wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asiekierka/Computronics/master/src/main/resources/assets/computronics/loot/tape/usr/bin/tape.lua
L319[13:16:31] <Vexatos> that's the only file you need
L320[13:16:52] <Vexatos> Temia, it has
L321[13:16:58] <Vexatos> it extended it to all fluid containers
L322[13:17:00] <hampe321> Ah, right, thanks
L323[13:17:10] <Temia> ...ah.
L324[13:17:25] <Temia> Not quite what I meant
L325[13:17:26] <Inari> So
L326[13:17:33] <Temia> But sure, okay
L327[13:17:36] <Inari> you're saying that we need it to be a fluid container
L328[13:17:53] * Vexatos fills tapes with water
L329[13:18:23] <Inari> Tekonium
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L332[13:23:29] <hampe321> huh, well, tape program seems to be working, but I'm not sure if the tape is... well... healthy
L333[13:24:13] <hampe321> Thing sure did make some awful noises
L334[13:24:23] <Vexatos> well it only plays DFPWM
L335[13:24:31] <Vexatos> Or, if you are not using Minecraft 1.7.10, DFPWM1a
L336[13:24:58] <hampe321> Is there a program in OC or computronics that is capable of converting?
L337[13:25:08] <hampe321> Or must I convert it myself and then upload it?
L338[13:25:32] <Vexatos> you need an external program called LionRay
L339[13:25:35] <Vexatos> it can convert .wav files
L340[13:25:38] <Vexatos> into dfpwm
L341[13:26:04] <Vexatos> if you are on MC 1.8 or above, you can use http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/LionRay1a.jar
L342[13:26:49] <hampe321> Is there a difference between them, other than compatability?
L343[13:27:19] <Vexatos> 1.7.10 uses an older version of DFPWM for compatibility
L344[13:27:26] <Vexatos> so you also need an older version of LionRay
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L346[13:40:12] <hampe321> Vexatos, it doesn't seem to be working even with the DFPWM file
L347[13:40:36] <Vexatos> which minecraft version are you using
L348[13:40:49] <Vexatos> 1.7.10? Then you will need the older lionray version
L349[13:40:58] <hampe321> 1.7.10, using the older version
L350[13:41:09] <Vexatos> where did you get that from .-.
L351[13:41:23] <Inari> payonel: Does OpenOs have a feature to give a checksum of a file?
L352[13:41:58] <hampe321> There was a link for it on your wiki
L353[13:42:08] <hampe321> On the tape section
L354[13:42:59] <hampe321> The wav was 32-bit float PCM
L355[13:43:04] <hampe321> Would that be the problem?
L356[13:43:14] <hampe321> Should I only convert 16-bit ones?
L357[13:43:39] <Vexatos> that is the new version
L358[13:43:42] <Vexatos> on the wiki
L359[13:43:49] <Vexatos> The old version... uuuh
L360[13:43:53] <hampe321> What :_:
L361[13:43:54] <Vexatos> No idea, let me upload it again
L362[13:48:33] <Vexatos> hampe321, try this http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/LionRay-old.jar
L363[13:53:33] <Inari> Vexatos: Such terrible usability design
L364[13:53:34] <Inari> tsk tsk tsk
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L366[13:54:44] <Vexatos> I didn't want to ruin every tape ever made on 1.7.10
L367[13:54:51] <hampe321> That didn't seem to work
L368[13:55:06] <Inari> You could have a radio button that asks the user to pick if they use 1.7.10 or 1.8+
L369[13:55:49] <Inari> Could also have extended the format so its more compatible I guess (i.e. encoding the versiona nd the players just pick the right one)
L370[13:56:29] <Temia> Considering the tape format doesn't necessarily play from the beginning, that's not actually possible.
L371[13:56:55] <Inari> Hmm I suppose so
L372[13:57:05] <Temia> Likewise the tape player needs to semi-gracefully handle non-audio content played on it
L373[13:57:06] <Inari> Add metadata to tapes!
L374[13:57:51] <Inari> Did OC ever add the option to label floppies?
L375[13:58:01] <Temia> ...Now I suddenly have an urge to listen to the Lagrange Point OST, since one of the songs I first tested on the tape player was from it
L376[13:58:03] <Inari> Like, on a label UI, not just anviling them
L377[13:58:03] <Temia> Yes.
L378[13:58:09] <Temia> Ages ago.
L379[13:58:20] <Inari> Well
L380[13:58:22] <Inari> I mean like D:
L381[13:58:23] <Temia> Well
L382[13:58:26] <Temia> API more like UI
L383[13:58:34] <Temia> Wait, drive letters?
L384[13:58:59] <Inari> You rightclick or shift-rightclick with a floppy and it would pop open a image of a floppy and its like a sign with multiple lines basically to label and you can flip the write-protect switch
L385[13:59:19] <Temia> ...yeah, no, you'll just have to set the label on the computer
L386[13:59:24] <Temia> IIRC there is a program for that though
L387[13:59:37] <Inari> Yeah, so thats still something to be added
L388[14:00:08] <Temia> Seems like unnecessary complexity to me.
L389[14:00:59] <Inari> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1340
L390[14:02:39] <Temia> I guess I'm just out of touch then.
L391[14:02:41] * Temia shrugs.
L392[14:04:59] <Vexatos> hampe321, it should...
L393[14:05:20] <Vexatos> it definitely works for me...
L394[14:08:26] <Inari> Temia: Its just a nice feature, and people who don't want it don't have to use it. Also I'mnot sure how else you would set write-protect, unless that would be an API thingy too
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L396[14:23:31] <hampe321> Vexatos, do you think you could upload an example file, one that you know works?
L397[14:23:41] <Vexatos> sure
L398[14:24:57] <Vexatos> hampe321, see PMs
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L402[14:27:16] <hampe321_OC> Well, I managed to join from the built in IRC function in OC
L403[14:27:20] <hampe321_OC> That's nice
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L405[14:33:03] <Inari> Nice, but unfortunately useless
L406[14:33:12] <Inari> Which sadly describes too much of OC
L407[14:46:43] <payonel> Inari: it does not (re: checksum)
L408[14:47:18] <Inari> payonel: :<
L409[14:48:30] <payonel> Inari: too much of OC, useless :P
L410[14:49:13] <Inari> payonel: It just is :P
L411[14:49:24] <Inari> Else I'd see more people using it fro stuff
L412[14:49:39] <Inari> The thing that seemst o find some use is using it for reactro control
L413[14:49:44] <Inari> And then thats kind of it for a long time
L414[14:50:00] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpnd4OVf7oo
L415[14:50:01] <MichiBot> The World's Ugliest Keyboard | length: 9m 37s | Likes: 5,580 Dislikes: 155 Views: 40,103 | by LinusTechTips | Published On 25/1/2017
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L417[14:58:52] <payonel> i use it for reactor control
L418[14:59:04] <payonel> :)
L419[14:59:33] <payonel> question: is there a difference between the redstone block and the tier 2 redstone card?
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L421[14:59:43] <payonel> in terms of the component api
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L425[15:00:34] <Vexatos> don't think so
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L427[15:05:22] <payonel> xarses_: i'll want you to test the rules and labeling a bit
L428[15:05:41] <payonel> there is some abiguity in what is the preferred label
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L430[15:05:58] <xarses> payonel: sounds good
L431[15:06:08] <payonel> for a component that supports [gs]etLabel, such as filesystems and the eeprom
L432[15:06:28] <payonel> if you have a rule to specify a label, what label is populated in /dev/components/by-label?
L433[15:06:45] <payonel> what label is specified via `label /path` ? and what label is specified via `mount` ?
L434[15:07:11] <payonel> i have picked AN answer to this, but there isn't one right answer
L435[15:07:48] <payonel> my solution (open to feedback) is that `mount` ONLY displays fs.getLabel labels (unchanged)
L436[15:08:14] <payonel> but `label ...` and /dev/components/by-label show rule label (1st), or fs label (2nd)
L437[15:09:02] <payonel> and `label ...` updates the rule (if it exists), or setLabel (if it is supported), or creates the rule (in memory first, saved to /etc/udev/rules.d/autogenerated.lua if path is rw)
L438[15:09:43] <xarses> hmm
L439[15:10:11] <payonel> basically, `label ...` should prefer fs.[gs]etLabel UNLESS a user has created a rule for it
L440[15:10:19] * ` coughs
L441[15:10:25] <xarses> hmm
L442[15:10:41] <payonel> so by default, `label ...` and '/dev/components/by-label' will always respect the component api -- a user would have to create a rule by hand for it to use the rule file
L443[15:11:13] * ` continues violently coughing
L444[15:11:32] <payonel> ` not my fault you have a single char name that i like to use :P
L445[15:11:39] <xarses> shouldn't we always yeild to the component if it has [g|s}etLabel ?
L446[15:11:40] <`> ;)
L447[15:12:07] <payonel> xarses: i think so. but what if a user made a rule for their rootfs?
L448[15:12:29] <xarses> proxy out to component to set it?
L449[15:12:37] <payonel> hmm
L450[15:12:43] <payonel> hmm
L451[15:12:55] <payonel> oh, but
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L453[15:13:05] <payonel> then i'd have to intercept any call to setLabel as well
L454[15:13:09] <xarses> kinda that we are useing this to add lable support via OS if the component doesn't already have it?
L455[15:13:12] <payonel> and update the rule
L456[15:13:20] <payonel> yes ^
L457[15:13:26] <payonel> but it plays next to fs labels
L458[15:13:27] <xarses> only via the `label` command
L459[15:13:43] <xarses> if they go around us and edit the file, not our problem?
L460[15:15:50] <payonel> here is the hole in that workflow: 1. make rule for fs [and reboot] 2. call $(label / my_label) [ which calls fs.setLabel AND updates the rule file to be safe to reboot ] 3. run a lua command 'component.proxy(addr).setLabel("my_label_update")' 4. reboot, and the label is wrong (will use rule "my_label")
L461[15:16:07] <payonel> `: there, tried to use some $() for ya [no promises for the future, though]
L462[15:17:49] <xarses> mount would get updated. and /dev/comp wont...
L463[15:18:00] <xarses> but on a reboot, it would need to reconcile
L464[15:18:22] <payonel> if you make a rule, and i proxy to the real setLabel, then on boot i am calling setLabel
L465[15:18:34] <payonel> else, the rule means half-nothing
L466[15:18:52] <MGR> argh
L467[15:18:58] <MGR> I'm back with the lying laptop once more
L468[15:19:00] <payonel> also...i don't parse the rules until you traverse /dev
L469[15:19:05] <MGR> Test disk detects no partitions
L470[15:19:11] <MGR> Either
L471[15:19:18] <MGR> A. they stuck it next to a big magnet
L472[15:19:23] <payonel> so....i'd really rather not assume rules proxy to the real fs ....
L473[15:19:28] <MGR> B. They did some form of "secure erase" or whatever
L474[15:20:03] <xarses> payonel: well whichever works for now, we can play with it and go from there
L475[15:21:01] <payonel> yeah, i'll leave it as it is, and ping you the build when i've pushed it. last night i did some memory optimizations (successfully!) and i just want to finish my "redstone" adapter
L476[15:22:14] <xarses> k
L477[15:22:31] * xarses looks for a rs-nor latch and fails
L478[15:22:47] <MGR> ungh
L479[15:22:56] <MGR> I have to figure out how internet.open works soon
L480[15:23:00] <MGR> but not today
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L487[16:10:20] <Michiyo> So... Mary Tyler Moore died... :/
L488[16:16:56] <S3> mgr easily.
L489[16:16:59] <S3> it works so easy
L490[16:17:10] <S3> mgr it returns a socket handle
L491[16:17:21] <S3> but it's bugged afaik
L492[16:19:12] <S3> oh man this is scary shit
L493[16:19:25] <S3> payonel:
L494[16:19:47] <S3> if I store every bit of the kernel image inside of a table I call say, image
L495[16:19:57] <S3> so image = { -- image stuff here -- }
L496[16:20:09] <S3> and then I boot, and then I set image = nil
L497[16:20:20] <S3> will that garbage collect all that?
L498[16:20:53] <S3> if this works the way i think it should then awesome, because I can make the kernel only used for booting
L499[16:21:02] <S3> and run the os 100% on services.
L500[16:25:41] <Inari> So
L501[16:25:48] <Inari> Steam now has a game where you are a flying panty
L502[16:25:50] <Inari> beating up other panties
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L504[16:33:12] <S3> woah
L505[16:33:15] <S3> I can break the game!
L506[16:33:33] <S3> I love finding ways you can permanently lock yourself so you cant beat the game
L507[16:41:37] <Inari> S3: Just tie your hand up behind your back. Works great on most games
L508[16:43:33] <S3> lol
L509[16:43:37] <S3> well no in super paper mario
L510[16:43:45] <S3> it seems that I found a way to get the passcode early
L511[16:43:55] <S3> which ... if I save the game, I can't pick up a pixl
L512[16:44:00] <S3> which I need to finish the fortress
L513[16:56:00] <Kodos> well, I -was- gonna get food tonight
L514[17:08:48] <Ember_Primrose> %flip @Kiairii
L515[17:08:49] <MichiBot> Ember_Primrose: (╯°□°)╯ııɹıɐı丬@
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L521[17:38:35] <Kodos> %flip my fucking mother off a bridge
L522[17:38:36] <MichiBot> Kodos: (╯°□°)╯ǝɓpıɹq ɐ ɟɟo ɹǝɥʇoɯ ɓuıʞɔnɟ ʎɯ
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L526[18:54:49] <Ady (WriteEscape)> do wireless network cards have a unlimited range?
L527[19:28:20] <Temia> No, their range is based on the signal strength set in their API.
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L533[20:31:12] <Ady (WriteEscape)> gah racks and networks are confusing as crap!
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L536[21:10:46] <Ady (WriteEscape)> @Mimiru is opensecurity updating to 1.10?
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