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L3[00:23:17] <SolraBizna> building half a gigabyte of source code over NFS, because why not
L4[00:26:21] <gamax92> SolraBizna: better than NBD as swap
L5[00:26:41] <SolraBizna> I did that once
L6[00:26:46] <SolraBizna> (emphasis on the once)
L7[00:26:53] <SolraBizna> it worked really well until I actually hit swap
L8[00:26:57] <gamax92> :P
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L10[00:38:06] <neX!Tem> Is opencomputers a good idea for someone that has little to no programming expierence? I really want to do stuff with it but I fear I need to start somewhere else if I want to learn lua & progamming?
L11[00:38:44] <SolraBizna> It can be a good way to get started, since Lua is a good first language and the Minecraft component provides engagement
L12[00:40:13] <neX!Tem> Right now I'm quite lost, trying to find a tutorial that gets me started but google throws only stuff at me that is for people that already know how to code is antoher language or at least had some kind of classes related to it
L13[00:40:36] <neX!Tem> Right now I'm quite lost, trying to find a tutorial that gets me started but google throws only stuff at me that is for people that already know how to code is another language or at least had some kind of classes related to it
L14[00:41:10] <SolraBizna> Most online tutorials suck anyway
L15[00:41:29] <SolraBizna> The best way to learn is to find someone to teach you the basics
L16[00:41:37] <SolraBizna> I would normally volunteer but I think I fell asleep about an hour ago
L17[00:42:08] <neX!Tem> ^^ You should sleep
L18[00:42:15] <neX!Tem> Im from austria, I just wake up
L19[00:42:23] <neX!Tem> Gonna bang my head against this the whole day I think
L20[00:42:41] <neX!Tem> Im from austria, I just woke up
L21[00:42:47] <SolraBizna> if you're still awake when I stop being asleep, maybe I can help you
L22[00:42:56] <Temia> Oh man, that nick is going to be the death of me.
L23[00:43:03] * Temia goes to add an "i" back to her highlights.
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L25[00:43:35] <Temia> I was hoping Undertale falling back out of the spotlight would let me use it again...
L26[00:43:37] <SolraBizna> every time I see it my brain goes "bash: !Tem: event not found"
L27[00:43:59] <neX!Tem> That would be amazing. lets see how long you last teaching me ^^
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L29[00:44:59] <nexitem> better? ?
L30[00:45:26] <vifino> Lesigh. I ordered my laptop on the 23th of november, on backorder it was then, the past two days it has bee marked as available, now I wake up and see it's on backorder again. Til the 27th december. I won't be home then, I need it earlier. :|
L31[00:46:27] <SolraBizna> I ordered an air filter to help me get over an awful cough
L32[00:46:32] <SolraBizna> that was two weeks ago, still hasn't shipped
L33[00:47:16] <nexitem> This is normal at this time of the year
L34[00:47:29] <nexitem> Its december, everyone orders stuff for christmas
L35[00:47:47] <vifino> I didn't order it in december, though.
L36[00:48:22] <nexitem> Me neither, I orderd something 1 week ago, and it has been delayed until 10th december
L37[00:48:28] <SolraBizna> Christmas time starts in late August though
L38[00:48:47] <nexitem> Distrubution is very fucked the last 3 months of the year
L39[00:48:55] <vifino> I would've expected it to ship when it was available, that's what the estimate said too before. Now it's just going "nope fuck that".
L40[00:49:19] <nexitem> If its amazon, call customer supporrt
L41[00:49:21] <nexitem> If its amazon, call customer support
L42[00:49:27] <nexitem> sometime They are able to make things happen
L43[00:49:35] <nexitem> sometimes they are able to make things happen
L44[00:52:24] <gamax92> https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2016-November/155639.html
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L46[01:07:11] <nexitem> Wait, Overwatch has no linux support?
L47[01:07:17] <nexitem> Wtf blizzard
L48[01:09:39] <nexitem> I don't understand why blizzard pushes DirectX11
L49[01:10:46] <nexitem> sure its faster, and more efficent but Why not go the Vulcan or OpenGL route? I expect more from a company like blizzard. This is just sad
L50[01:11:10] <gamax92> lol wtf are you on about
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L52[01:21:36] <nexitem> you posted a link to a wine patch that is trying to add DX11 support.
L53[01:25:46] <gamax92> Wine has DX11 support, it's just partial
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L56[01:35:48] <Forecaster> Michiyo: I feexed it
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L60[02:04:31] <nexitem> I just realized what I wanted to do with opencomputers in the first place is not even possible. I tryd finding out how to get RF to convert to EU and someone suggested OpenComputers, however after reading into it the past 2 hours I stand corrected, The Power Converter only converts energy from other mods into OC Internal energy but not back again haha.
L61[02:06:07] <snowden89> yeah
L62[02:06:34] <snowden89> its not a free power converter it is just to allow for OC to run on what ever tech you have
L63[02:09:18] <nexitem> no matter what I'm still going to learn how to do cool stuff with this, cant wait
L64[02:12:05] <Forecaster> I'm sorry, the "doing cool things" package is a premium feature, it can be unlocked through a monthly payment to my paypal which is totally legit
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L66[02:14:30] <nexitem> Wait I know your name, aren't you the autor of this mod?
L67[02:14:45] <LizzyTheKitty> Lel
L68[02:15:04] <Forecaster> me? no :P
L69[02:15:06] <xandaros> Well, if you say it's totally legit, it must be true. It's your account, after all. You'd know if it was fake
L70[02:17:58] <nexitem> monthly payment is not something I can afford ? but I totally want to donate to this
L71[02:20:46] <Forecaster> well, Sangar has a pateron https://www.patreon.com/sangar
L72[02:24:27] <Skye> Snarag
L73[02:26:16] <nexitem> done
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L75[02:31:46] <nexitem> Forecaster, Boiler Calculater?
L76[02:31:55] <Forecaster> amongst other things yeah
L77[02:31:56] <Forecaster> :P
L78[02:32:07] <nexitem> I knew i knew you
L79[02:32:17] <nexitem> I used to play alot with boilers before 1.10.2
L80[02:32:23] <nexitem> that tool helpmed me out soooo much
L81[02:32:27] <nexitem> I love boilers XD
L82[02:32:39] <nexitem> ? they are not updated yet so no cool steam anymore
L83[02:32:53] <Forecaster> They'll be coming eventually
L84[02:33:14] <nexitem> I reall hope
L85[02:33:18] <nexitem> I really hope
L86[02:33:34] <nexitem> for now Immersive eng. is cool
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L88[02:33:38] <Lizzy> when Forecaster says they're coming, they're coming
L89[02:34:18] <xandaros> It is known
L90[02:34:28] <nexitem> hahaha
L91[02:35:11] <Lizzy> in other news, hibernation (and thus hybrid-sleep) works on my laptop now that i've increased the swap partition to be able to hold the entirity of my ram
L92[02:38:05] <xandaros> I don't actually have a swap partition. I have a swapfile, though
L93[02:39:00] <nexitem> since starting with OC, I have 20 tabs open constantly. help
L94[02:39:06] <xandaros> That's what happens when you design your partition layout without swap space in mind and can't be bothered fixing it
L95[02:40:02] <Lizzy> btrfs doesn't support swapfile and to resume from swapfiles is a kind of a pain
L96[02:40:23] <xandaros> I know... had to get rid of my swapfile on my main PC after switching to btrfs
L97[02:40:36] <xandaros> I have lots more space now, though. I'll get a proper swap partition soon
L98[02:40:41] <Lizzy> my FF windows have 24 tabs open currently
L99[02:41:17] <xandaros> Need to sort out one of the extended partitions, though. I only need one of the "sub-partitions", but I can't delete the other ones because reasons
L100[02:42:14] <Lizzy> I use GPT Disks so i don't have that problem
L101[02:43:29] <xandaros> Hmm - does gpt not have that issue? I thought everything I used was gpt...
L102[02:43:55] <Hovercraft> I thought that only MBR had extended partitions?
L103[02:44:16] <xandaros> possibly
L104[02:47:40] <Lizzy> MBR can have a max of 4 'primary' partitions but one of those primary ones can be made an extended partition and contain logical partitions
L105[02:47:48] <Skye> GPT doesn't need extended partitions
L106[02:47:48] <Lizzy> GPT can have an unlimited amoutn
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L108[02:48:47] <xandaros> Yeah, must be mbr, then... changing that would be a pain, though
L109[02:48:56] <Lizzy> yep
L110[02:49:57] <Hovercraft> I thought there *was* a limit like 128 or 256 or something?
L111[02:51:28] <Lizzy> i don't think so since it uses UUIDs
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L119[04:06:30] <Izaya> There's a practical limit and a theoretical limit that will never be lower than the practical limit
L120[04:06:53] <Izaya> theoretical limit: not enough UUIDs, practical limit: not enough space for ALL THE PARTITIONS
L121[04:07:40] <Lizzy> ^
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L123[04:11:58] <xandaros> The sector number also has to fit in a 64 bit number, I believe
L124[04:14:46] <Lizzy> :@ ffs lastpass why y fucking up on the github login page?
L125[04:15:58] <Forecaster> I've not had issues with lp and github before
L126[04:16:03] <Forecaster> o.o
L127[04:16:42] <Lizzy> using it's icon on the toolbar allows me to autofill it, just clicking the buttons in the username box doesn't seem to work on FF
L128[04:16:53] <Forecaster> huh
L129[04:17:11] <Forecaster> I don't go to gh on firefox
L130[04:17:15] * Forecaster starts it to test
L131[04:17:50] <Forecaster> oh yeah, the dialogs don't appear
L132[04:18:00] <Forecaster> but I have it set to auto-fill automatically
L133[04:18:25] <Lizzy> I don't have that set but FF auto-fills my main account details anyway
L134[04:18:25] <Forecaster> or well, I haven't told it not to
L135[04:20:24] <Forecaster> and FF crashed again
L136[04:20:30] <Forecaster> it really doesn't like this computer
L137[04:22:51] <Lizzy> lol
L138[04:27:44] <neX!Tem> firefox is a bitch
L139[04:28:23] <neX!Tem> I was a huge fan, Still am actually, interface is just way better than chrome or IE. However after many months of performance issues, crashes, slow flash, or html5 videos I went to opera and never looked back.
L140[04:28:38] <Forecaster> it works fine on my main computer at home
L141[04:28:42] <Lizzy> I used opera way back when
L142[04:28:44] <Forecaster> I use both chrome and FF
L143[04:29:04] <neX!Tem> opera runs on the chormium engine now, so its not the same as it was
L144[04:29:07] <Hovercraft> I hate firefox too
L145[04:29:08] <Hovercraft> — Sent from firefox
L146[04:29:18] <neX!Tem> yea FF seems to work really good on some systems, ...
L147[04:29:32] <Forecaster> I only watch videos in chrome though
L148[04:29:32] <neX!Tem> My AMD based system wasn't though
L149[04:29:40] <Hovercraft> I'm on a linux laptop, intel based
L150[04:30:12] <neX!Tem> Dedicated GPU?
L151[04:30:17] <Lizzy> FF works okay for me on my laptop, though i might switch to chrome since i use chrome on my pc
L152[04:30:19] <Hovercraft> integrated
L153[04:30:27] <neX!Tem> so just intel?
L154[04:30:32] <Hovercraft> I use FF basically everywhere
L155[04:30:38] <Hovercraft> @neX!Tem da
L156[04:31:29] <neX!Tem> im actually scared of chrome
L157[04:31:35] <neX!Tem> Thats why i dont use it lol
L158[04:32:02] <neX!Tem> It just feels strange to use the browser of one of the most powerful companys. I dont even want to know what they know
L159[04:32:16] <Hovercraft> mozilla's fairly powerful
L160[04:32:22] <Hovercraft> *fairly*
L161[04:32:28] <Hovercraft> more powerful than me at least
L162[04:32:31] <neX!Tem> ahhaaha
L163[04:32:47] <neX!Tem> more powerful than my lua skills
L164[04:33:51] <Forecaster> it's a good browser though
L165[04:33:56] <Forecaster> :P
L166[04:34:00] <neX!Tem> very
L167[04:34:11] <Hovercraft> OS X is a good os though
L168[04:34:31] <neX!Tem> my openComputer froze when I came back from mining. and I did not save what I wrote on it T.T
L169[04:34:42] <neX!Tem> i need to get a internet card lol
L170[04:35:06] <Forecaster> maybe you need a save reflex
L171[04:35:53] <neX!Tem> haha im not used to things crashing
L172[04:35:56] <neX!Tem> or freezing xD
L173[04:36:09] <neX!Tem> this has not happend since I used windows vista
L174[04:36:13] <Inari> everyone knows you just hit ctrl+s every 2 minutes
L175[04:36:21] <Inari> sometimes I hit it even though I never changed anything :x
L176[04:37:00] <neX!Tem> Is it possible to copy paste text into it?
L177[04:37:02] <neX!Tem> from outside the game?
L178[04:37:35] <Hovercraft> middle mouse button?
L179[04:37:39] <neX!Tem> yes
L180[04:37:45] <neX!Tem> I just found out the moment you said that
L181[04:37:49] * Inari throws eels into @Hovercraft
L182[04:37:57] <Hovercraft> no
L183[04:37:58] <Hovercraft> no u
L184[04:38:13] <Hovercraft> I don't want my ___s to explode in delight
L185[04:38:30] <Inari> anus?
L186[04:38:35] <Hovercraft> nipples
L187[04:38:42] <Inari> Thats three underscores
L188[04:38:43] <Inari> doesn't fit
L189[04:38:53] <Hovercraft> to avoid discord's formatting
L190[04:39:13] <Hovercraft> Can I buy scratched tobacconists
L191[04:39:25] <Inari> ______s
L192[04:39:30] <Inari> \_\_\_\_\__s
L193[04:39:34] <Inari> Heh
L194[04:39:35] <Lizzy> \/\/\/
L195[04:39:37] <Inari> Michibot bug get
L196[04:39:43] <Lizzy> ?
L197[04:40:01] <Inari> http://waa.ai/pinky_BAgXF
L198[04:40:08] <Forecaster> Corded != MichiBot
L199[04:40:17] <Inari> Ohr ight
L200[04:40:20] <Inari> corded is doing this ?
L201[04:40:34] * Lizzy baps Inari
L202[04:41:16] <Inari> Corded bug get then
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L208[04:56:20] <Hovercraft> I'm planning on wiping out the entire computer and do linux on it, any good LxQt/LXDE distros?
L209[04:57:16] <Lizzy> by that do you mean with LXDE/LxQt installed out of the box or able to install later
L210[04:57:43] <Hovercraft> both, preferrably the former I'm lazy
L211[05:00:04] <neX!Tem> how can I force stop a running program?
L212[05:00:08] <neX!Tem> or do I have to reboot?
L213[05:00:17] <Hovercraft> ctrl-alt-C?
L214[05:00:23] <neX!Tem> thanks
L215[05:01:35] <Forecaster> ctrl + c is a soft stop command
L216[05:01:48] <Forecaster> it'll work if the program catches it
L217[05:02:03] <Forecaster> ctrl alt c is a hard stop, it'll stop anything
L218[05:02:30] <Forecaster> whether it wants to or not
L219[05:05:55] <neX!Tem> yea ctrl c did not work
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L222[05:54:14] <neX!Tem> I dont understand how component addresses work
L223[06:10:53] <Izaya> I really
L224[06:10:55] <Izaya> really
L225[06:10:59] <Forecaster> what do you mean?
L226[06:11:06] <Izaya> shouldn't have watched two episodes of Black Mirror in a row
L227[06:18:31] <vifino> yeah, that shit's dark.
L228[06:18:53] <vifino> Watch White Collar instead. 10/10 series.
L229[06:20:44] <Inari> leather collar?
L230[06:23:51] * Lizzy flops acros vifino's lap and keeps him warm
L231[06:27:39] <Inari> Lizzy: She wants one
L232[06:27:47] <Lizzy> ?
L233[06:28:35] <Inari> a leather collar
L234[06:28:50] <Lizzy> i think you pinged the wrong person
L235[06:28:58] <Inari> Oh yeah
L236[06:29:01] <Lizzy> but vifino already gave me one ages back
L237[06:29:01] <Inari> was meant to go to vifino
L238[06:29:03] <Inari> :P
L239[06:29:18] <Inari> Lizzy: but its much better if your loved one puts it on you!
L240[06:29:50] <Lizzy> I didn't indicate that he had not :P
L241[06:29:57] <Inari> ;3
L242[06:30:13] <Inari> Well either you've been wearing it ever since then, or dunno
L243[06:30:24] <Lizzy> the former
L244[06:30:38] * Lizzy nuzzels vifino
L245[06:30:54] <Inari> Sounds like it would get dirty
L246[06:31:50] <Lizzy> it gets washed when it needs to
L247[06:38:04] <Izaya> Lizzy x vifino best
L248[06:38:19] <Izaya> it's cute in a mildly twisted way
L249[06:38:48] <Lizzy> heh, how so?
L250[06:38:58] <Izaya> :3
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L253[06:39:24] <Izaya> well for a start
L254[06:39:34] <Izaya> one half is an alien and the other is a wizard
L255[06:41:00] <Izaya> vifino: won't be able to sleep because of Black Mirror. Far too possible.
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L259[06:54:45] <marcin212> gamax92: my jenkins -> https://ci.bymarcin.com/
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L266[07:06:58] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/eumyvr.png ooooo
L267[07:07:33] <Kilobyte> Izaya: what app is that?
L268[07:07:47] <Izaya> silence
L269[07:08:00] <Izaya> Signal except actual encrypted SMS
L270[07:08:10] <Izaya> not encrypted IM
L271[07:08:33] <Forecaster> woop http://xkcd.com/1768/
L272[07:08:33] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Settling Posted on: 12/5/2016
L273[07:08:51] <Forecaster> http://what-if.xkcd.com/153/
L274[07:08:53] <Forecaster> :D
L275[07:08:57] <Forecaster> feexed
L276[07:09:58] <Kilobyte> ah okay
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L297[08:29:21] <Caitlyn> On the forth day of business my paypal gave to meeeeee....
L298[08:29:30] <Caitlyn> not jack shit cause fuck pay pal those fucking bastards
L299[08:30:31] <Forecaster> :O
L300[08:30:39] <Forecaster> #thenerve
L301[08:30:59] <Caitlyn> did a bank to paypal transfer thrusday... it was out of the bank friday and mia since lol
L302[08:35:30] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/z2HP1c0.jpg
L303[08:47:29] <Forecaster> sqeggs
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L308[09:05:03] <Forecaster> Heh, just got called by one of them "your window is being hacked" guys
L309[09:05:14] <Forecaster> s/window/computer/
L310[09:05:14] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> Heh, just got called by one of them "your computer is being hacked" guys
L311[09:06:01] <Forecaster> I wonder if I should publish the recording of the call
L312[09:10:07] <Lizzy> lol
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L314[09:18:19] <Mettaton_Fab> do it.
L315[09:18:23] <Mettaton_Fab> just do it.
L316[09:23:32] <Inari> "Whenever you're wet, your exposure increases by an exponential degree."
L317[09:30:51] <Michiyo> Ahh finally there it is
L318[09:30:58] <Michiyo> ffs paypal take a bit longer
L319[09:34:18] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari, wat?
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L322[09:44:12] <Mettaton_Fab> currently installing openSuSE instead of Winxp just for 64-bit support.
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L326[09:48:49] <Mettaton_Fab> also because i hae a quad-core which is only for 64-bit use in my case.
L327[09:49:44] <Mettaton_Fab> *have
L328[09:54:23] <S3> ?
L329[09:54:23] <S3> only for 64 bit use
L330[09:54:23] <S3> but you use 16 bit on it too
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L335[10:00:36] <SolraBizna> does nexitem still exist?
L336[10:02:22] <neX!Tem> yes
L337[10:02:34] <neX!Tem> nexitem is working hard on his automatically opening door
L338[10:03:05] <xandaros> Oh, that's supposed to be read like that
L339[10:03:32] <neX!Tem> when nexitem comes close to a sensor , and only if he is in a line in front of the sensor in X -1 to x 5 lol
L340[10:09:05] <Forecaster> he hung up on me by the way :P
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L342[10:10:21] <Mettaton_Fab> found a picture of either a friend of the original owner or one of their friends.
L343[10:10:37] <Mettaton_Fab> on my Core2Quad machine.
L344[10:10:56] <Mettaton_Fab> old hitachi hdd has a WinVista install on it.
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L346[10:12:07] <Mettaton_Fab> that dude was good at playing jenga.
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L349[10:28:36] <Forecaster> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/220970/call_15-37-22_IN_.aac
L350[10:31:07] <Forecaster> warning: lost of cringe
L351[10:31:31] <Inari> Hard to listen to, not even due to the content :P
L352[10:31:47] <Forecaster> yeah, there was a lot of mic wind
L353[10:34:03] <DaMachinator> hmm
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L355[10:42:20] <neX!Tem> @SolraBizna @neX!Tem so I see when you write.
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L357[10:45:05] <SolraBizna> @neX!Tem: I was planning for today to be a nice day of relaxation after three days of solid work
L358[10:45:11] <SolraBizna> and then my filesystem exploded
L359[10:45:44] <SolraBizna> now I get to debug that instead
L360[10:56:30] <neX!Tem> thats always bad
L361[10:57:42] <DaMachinator> literally or figuratively
L362[10:57:51] <SolraBizna> figuratively
L363[10:57:54] <DaMachinator> hmm
L364[10:58:00] <DaMachinator> what do i want to check here...
L365[10:58:06] <DaMachinator> i should probably draw a layout table
L366[10:58:14] <SolraBizna> unless you were asking about the three days of solid work
L367[10:58:17] <SolraBizna> in which case, also figuratively
L368[10:58:24] <SolraBizna> there were breaks to eat and sleep
L369[10:59:04] <DaMachinator> was asking about explosion
L370[10:59:29] <SolraBizna> a single write failed, probably due to dirty AC supply, and now the filesystem is slightly corrupted and refuses to be writable for long
L371[10:59:41] <SolraBizna> only thing to do is btrfs check
L372[10:59:54] <DaMachinator> if you had said "after 72 hours of solid work" i would assume
L373[11:00:21] <DaMachinator> that it was 72 hours without much interruption
L374[11:00:32] <DaMachinator> SolraBizna: loverly
L375[11:00:57] <DaMachinator> i had my laptop's battery die while the game was saving and lost over 2 weeks of gameplay once
L376[11:01:05] <DaMachinator> i took an extended break from MC after that
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L378[11:15:41] <SolraBizna> best part: since I'm currently hiding in the middle of the desert, I haven't had backups for nearly a month
L379[11:17:13] <neX!Tem> savage
L380[11:21:50] <Skye> SolraBizna, why are you in the middle of a desert
L381[11:22:53] <SolraBizna> aggressive, drug-addled neighbors or the bathroom floor collapsing into a portal to Hell
L382[11:22:56] <SolraBizna> take your pick
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L384[11:24:55] <Skye> just jump into the portal to hell, Izaya will welcome you
L385[11:25:20] <SolraBizna> someone took away one of the frame blocks, so the portal doesn't work anymore
L386[11:27:02] <Mettaton_Fab> how the fuck do i use Wifi on openSUSE?
L387[11:27:16] <Mettaton_Fab> networkmanager does not start up.
L388[11:27:59] <SolraBizna> you could try to use wpa_supplicant yourself
L389[11:28:07] <SolraBizna> (don't do that, there lies madness)
L390[11:29:00] <SolraBizna> is it the UI that won't start, or the daemon?
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L392[11:29:55] <Mettaton_Fab> the networkmanager does not allow me to even set up a connection
L393[11:30:12] <SolraBizna> do you have firmware for your wireless NIC?
L394[11:31:59] <Mettaton_Fab> windows only thing by some small company.
L395[11:32:32] <SolraBizna> is it PCI* or USB?
L396[11:32:37] <Mettaton_Fab> i also have a WIFI PCI card, but that only supports WEP
L397[11:32:44] <Mettaton_Fab> it is USB
L398[11:33:28] <Mettaton_Fab> what do i have to set the IP settings in YaST2 for it to work?
L399[11:36:16] <Mettaton_Fab> even my soundcard works.
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L402[11:43:55] <Mettaton_Fab> fixed it myself.
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L408[11:49:21] <Wah> it works!
L409[11:49:51] <Wah> and yes, that connection name contains my real name.
L410[11:51:46] <gamax92> *crickets*
L411[11:52:08] <Wah> works better than expected.
L412[11:52:32] <gamax92> oh heh ... Because neX!Tem's name has the ! in it Quassel truncates the name at the ! so all I see is "^neX"
L413[11:53:32] <Wah> gotta dl me some vlc.
L414[11:53:59] <gamax92> Download yourself some mplayer
L415[11:54:05] <Skye> %p Wah
L416[11:54:06] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Wah 0.73s
L417[11:55:38] <Wah> still downloading.
L418[11:56:16] <Inari> Who usess VLC
L419[11:56:17] <Inari> like really
L420[11:56:26] <Forecaster> o/
L421[11:56:32] <Mystia_Lorelei> a lot of people
L422[11:56:39] <Cruor> Inari: it does a great job out of the box <_<
L423[11:56:48] <Inari> mpchc masterrace
L424[11:57:14] <Wah> maybe i can watch porn on this pc
L425[11:57:20] <Michiyo> <-- I use VLC
L426[11:57:39] <Forecaster> vlc's worked fine for me
L427[11:57:48] <Forecaster> I've had no reason to look for anything else
L428[11:57:50] <Vexatos> mpv masterrace?
L429[11:58:00] <Mystia_Lorelei> mpchc looks like it came straight out of windows 98
L430[11:58:05] <Michiyo> lol
L431[11:58:17] <Michiyo> yay lunch
L432[11:58:20] <Cruor> madvr works with mpchc :I so thats a reason to use it
L433[12:01:06] <gamax92> I have no VR equipment
L434[12:01:24] <Cruor> :I thats not what madvr is
L435[12:01:30] <gamax92> oh
L436[12:01:34] <gamax92> I tried, okay?
L437[12:01:40] <gamax92> :P
L438[12:01:45] <Forecaster> that was my first thought as well :P
L439[12:01:50] <Forecaster> until I looked it up
L440[12:02:17] <Cruor> makes 480p anime look... more watchable
L441[12:03:06] <gamax92> Cruor: because of NGU?
L442[12:04:00] <Wah> wifi is fast enough to load websites.
L443[12:04:27] <Cruor> Wah: until images?
L444[12:05:06] <Wah> even images can be loaded.
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L446[12:05:28] <Wah> 7.7KB/s is slow as shit.
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L448[12:07:57] <SolraBizna> I use VLC
L449[12:08:10] <SolraBizna> Mettaton_Fab: sorry, had to deal with a meatspace problem
L450[12:09:08] <Wah> meatspace?
L451[12:09:42] <SolraBizna> opposite of cyberspace
L452[12:09:45] <vifino> Vexatos: Another vote for mpv.
L453[12:09:59] <vifino> isbest
L454[12:10:36] <Wah> :)
L455[12:11:13] <Inari> :lovehotel:
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L457[12:14:13] <Vexatos> vifino, "magical potato vifino"
L458[12:14:20] <gamax92> I used to use VLC, but now I don't really watch videos outside of YouTube
L459[12:14:50] <gamax92> "collared cat vifino"
L460[12:14:55] <SolraBizna> Because of reasons, I usually use VLC to watch YouTube
L461[12:14:57] <Inari> Nonnon
L462[12:15:02] <Inari> lizzy is the one with the collar
L463[12:15:12] <gamax92> oh
L464[12:15:54] <Wah> hey Inari, wanna know wht the person who threw away their computer left on their hard disk?
L465[12:16:04] <Inari> What?
L466[12:17:19] <SolraBizna> The anti-life equation?!
L467[12:20:32] <gamax92> nothing apparently
L468[12:21:02] <Caitlyn> I'm going with the self destruct codes to the laptop
L469[12:21:06] <Caitlyn> typed them in and BOOM
L470[12:21:09] <Caitlyn> no more Wah
L471[12:21:47] <Inari> Wah: nuclear codes?
L472[12:27:07] <gamax92> perhaps it was terrabytes of porn and now Wah is overloaded
L473[12:27:18] <Wah> they left porn on there.
L474[12:27:31] <Wah> it was not much porn.
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L476[12:29:38] <Wah1> cant even open this crap.
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L478[12:29:46] <gamax92> Inari: do you have a favorite console game?
L479[12:29:53] <Inari> Uh
L480[12:29:58] <Wah1> weh.
L481[12:29:59] <Inari> Not really?
L482[12:30:06] <Inari> Wah1: What kinda porn
L483[12:31:01] <SolraBizna> apparently a trojan horse
L484[12:31:10] <gamax92> oh noes
L485[12:31:22] <SolraBizna> it killed the original Wah and is now here as Wah1
L486[12:31:33] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nViIUfDMJg
L487[12:31:33] <MichiBot> Atari 2600 Emulator in Minecraft | length: 8m 43s | Likes: 736 Dislikes: 1 Views: 6,515 | by SethBling | Published On 6/12/2016
L488[12:32:03] <gamax92> very slow, 60 fps per 4 hours
L489[12:32:08] <Forecaster> 2000 command blocks
L490[12:32:10] <Forecaster> jeez
L491[12:32:30] <Forecaster> also, "dirty memory"
L492[12:32:38] <Forecaster> :D
L493[12:32:55] <Wah1> Anal porn apparently.
L494[12:33:50] <gamax92> your ram is made up of stone and dirt
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L496[12:35:30] <Forecaster> hey now, this isn't cc
L497[12:36:22] <gamax92> write a command block backend for llvm
L498[12:36:59] <SolraBizna> then compile llvm with it
L499[12:37:09] <gamax92> heh
L500[12:37:16] <SolraBizna> oh man, that would never be able to achieve more than 10-20 IPS, wouldn't it
L501[12:37:41] <SolraBizna> and I thought two hours for compiling my compiler was bad...
L502[12:39:16] <gamax92> A thing about SethBling's emulator, he has way too much dirt down there
L503[12:39:20] <Wah1> my pc is a bit on the loud side.
L504[12:40:13] <gamax92> 6507 can't address with 16bits, A13 to A15 is missing, which leaves 8KB of addressable memory
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L506[12:44:18] <vifino> There we go. Set up my computer and all the things in my dad's old office. Triple 4k screens are goooood :)
L507[12:44:43] <gamax92> 4k D:
L508[12:45:00] <Lizzy> :O
L509[12:45:03] <Wah1> what about 640x480 resolution?
L510[12:45:07] <vifino> Three 4k screens + high powered desktop + i3 + triple 4k wallpaper = good
L511[12:45:10] <Forecaster> I'm happy with my 3x1080 monitors
L512[12:45:19] <gamax92> I'm happy with my 1x1080 monitor
L513[12:45:20] <Forecaster> 4k seems excessive to me
L514[12:45:27] <gamax92> 3 monitors seems excessive to me
L515[12:45:42] <Lizzy> I think if i ever needed to go down to 1 monitor (for whatever reason) i'd get a 4k one
L516[12:45:43] <Forecaster> it's not if you do a lot of things at the same time :P
L517[12:45:43] <Wah1> i have a single old monitor.
L518[12:45:55] <Lizzy> vifino, what gpu do you have again?
L519[12:46:00] <vifino> 980ti
L520[12:46:05] <gamax92> Forecaster: you stream, so it makes sense to have multiple monitors
L521[12:46:24] <vifino> but i don't play much, so three 4k monitors are okay
L522[12:46:25] <Forecaster> I do a *lot* of things
L523[12:47:31] <vifino> to be honest, playing games at 4k vs 1440p isn't that much of a difference, but for productivity, it does make a difference
L524[12:47:40] * gamax92 shrugs
L525[12:47:53] <vifino> i don't use any scaling whatsoever cause my eyes are good, loads of terminals!
L526[12:49:42] <gamax92> vifino: what dpi are the screens though?
L527[12:49:58] <vifino> they are 28", dunno about the dpi
L528[12:50:14] <Lizzy> all the dpi
L529[12:50:49] <gamax92> ~157
L530[12:51:41] <vifino> some people have a problem with my setup, can't read a thing, but i love it.
L531[12:51:55] <vifino> i think Lizzy can't read it either
L532[12:52:03] * Lizzy can't remember if she tried
L533[12:52:17] <gamax92> lol
L534[12:52:22] <vifino> pretty sure you did
L535[12:52:33] <Forecaster> not to mention that I can't afford 4k screens
L536[12:52:33] <Lizzy> hmm
L537[12:52:40] <vifino> i vaguely remember you trying to hug my screen and not being able to read anything
L538[12:52:42] <gamax92> vifino: but can you view parallel 3d images?
L539[12:52:42] <Forecaster> and my gpu probably wouldn't be happy about it either
L540[12:53:11] <vifino> gamax92: uuuh
L541[12:53:32] <vifino> two problems with that.
L542[12:53:47] <vifino> none of my screens are 3d and they are three, not two.
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L544[12:54:08] <Stary[m]> i have 1 3d screen
L545[12:54:12] <Stary[m]> 3ds :^^^^^^)
L546[12:54:28] <Stary[m]> vifino:
L547[12:54:28] <vifino> oh ok.
L548[12:54:39] <gamax92> vifino: parallel 3d is the opposite of crosseyed 3d
L549[12:55:06] <gamax92> the whole two images, change eye focus to see three images, and focusing on center
L550[12:56:09] <vifino> i have never used either of them and i'm not gonna pretend to be an expert about something i am not, so i have no clue what you are talking about.
L551[12:56:55] <Lizzy> that sounds like it'd hurt after going crosseyed
L552[12:57:05] <gamax92> crosseyed hurts yes
L553[13:00:50] <Michiyo> I used 2 monitors for a bit this week.. it made me sad..
L554[13:01:02] <Michiyo> I had to put my TV back on my desk cause my 3rd monitor died and recapping it didn't fix it
L555[13:02:23] <Michiyo> The panel is likely fine.. but the power board is ded
L556[13:02:39] <gamax92> Michiyo: what resolution are your monitors?
L557[13:03:02] <Michiyo> 2 1080's a a 1440*900 IIRC
L558[13:03:04] <Wah1> and now i cant use vlc media player.
L559[13:03:46] <gamax92> Question, what does going from 2 monitors to 3 gain?
L560[13:04:29] <Forecaster> +1 monitor
L561[13:04:47] <gamax92> besides that
L562[13:04:50] <xandaros> Do I need a graphics card in a tablet?
L563[13:04:53] <Lizzy> more scren space
L564[13:04:56] <gamax92> xandaros: yes
L565[13:04:57] <Lizzy> xandaros, yes
L566[13:05:02] <xandaros> Damn :(
L567[13:05:05] <Lizzy> though you can also use an APU
L568[13:05:06] <xandaros> I want a T3 tablet! :D
L569[13:05:10] <vifino> no gap in the middle, instead a centered screen
L570[13:05:16] <gamax92> tablets can only take T2 screens
L571[13:05:22] <xandaros> Yes, I know
L572[13:05:45] <xandaros> APU actually sounds like a plan, I'll use that
L573[13:05:59] <Wah1> fancy shit
L574[13:06:30] <Wah1> man, i wanted to format that in italics.
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L576[13:06:39] <gamax92> too bad
L577[13:07:13] <xandaros> Meh, italics look so bad in terminal... I prefer highlights in bold
L578[13:07:25] <gamax92> lets compromise
L579[13:07:58] <xandaros> Am I doing it right? :P
L580[13:08:09] <gamax92> Needs some colors
L581[13:08:31] <Vexatos> COLORS
L582[13:08:40] <Forecaster> Cabbages
L583[13:09:03] <Vexatos> COLORS
L584[13:09:18] <Lizzy> %rainbow stahp
L585[13:09:18] <MichiBot> Lizzy: stahp
L586[13:09:27] <xandaros> MY CABBAGES!
L587[13:09:33] <gamax92> Lizzy has spoken, we must stahp
L588[13:09:59] <Wah1> do i use html tags for that?
L589[13:10:21] <xandaros> No, it's special characters which IRC interprets
L590[13:10:30] <xandaros> Most clients have some way of inputting them
L591[13:11:57] <SolraBizna> including netcat!
L592[13:12:06] <Mettaton_Fab> why the fuck do i have to restart openSUSE so often?
L593[13:12:19] <SolraBizna> something is wrong if you do
L594[13:12:33] <SolraBizna> when I'm at home, my Debian machine reboots less often than I have power outages
L595[13:13:07] <gamax92> have a UPS?
L596[13:13:09] <Mettaton_Fab> so how the fuck do i get vlc working, then?
L597[13:14:47] <SolraBizna> yup
L598[13:14:56] <SolraBizna> Mettaton_Fab: what is not working about it?
L599[13:18:07] <Wah1> it does not start.
L600[13:19:08] <SolraBizna> if you start it from a terminal, what message(s) get output?
L601[13:19:30] <Wah1> how do i start it from a terminal?
L602[13:19:37] <SolraBizna> vlc
L603[13:25:07] <Wah1> there are corrupt modules.
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L606[13:30:54] <Wah1> i cant play videos.
L607[13:32:44] <Forecaster> re-install modules?
L608[13:33:16] <Wah1> but how?
L609[13:33:36] <SolraBizna> what message indicates that they are corrupt?
L610[13:34:14] <Wah1> a red piece of text.
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L613[13:34:54] <Wah1> libqt4_plugin.so is corrupt.
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L615[13:35:16] <SolraBizna> try playing a video with cvlc
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L619[13:38:32] <Wah1> how do i play the video?
L620[13:38:39] <SolraBizna> cvlc path/to/video
L621[13:39:51] <Wah1> they are in my video directory
L622[13:39:53] <SolraBizna> that should at least establish whether things other than the qt GUI are working
L623[13:41:21] <Wah1> decoder profile not working.
L624[13:41:48] <payonel> o/
L625[13:41:58] <gamax92> Hey payonel
L626[13:42:34] <SolraBizna> at this point, if it were me, I'd just try mplayer
L627[13:42:43] <payonel> gamax92: :)
L628[13:42:53] <gamax92> payonel: :D
L629[13:45:37] * Michiyo sighs
L630[13:46:32] <Michiyo> I hate RadioShack.
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L633[13:51:32] <Wah1> i hate linux, its hard to just install a mp4 codec.
L634[13:51:49] <payonel> Wah1: what distro?
L635[13:52:50] <Wah1> openSUSE 42.1 Leap
L636[13:53:14] <Wah1> the default video player cant help me find it.
L637[13:53:21] <Wah1> vlc doesnt work
L638[13:53:28] <Wah1> and its crappy
L639[13:54:29] <Wah1> i cant weven play music, what the fuck!
L640[13:54:41] <gamax92> you should probably blame openSUSE
L641[13:54:44] <Wah1> everything needs a fucking plugin for everything.
L642[13:54:58] <gamax92> cause ... I can install vlc here and everything works fine, same in Arch
L643[13:55:08] <Wah1> gonna sell those parts.
L644[13:55:31] <Wah1> i need space in my room, so i might just sell my pc.
L645[13:55:55] <gamax92> k
L646[13:56:06] <Wah1> fuck it, gonna format the drive.
L647[13:56:10] <gamax92> k
L648[13:56:17] <Michiyo> ^
L649[13:57:47] <Wah1> openSUSe is not arch, so its just fucked up.
L650[13:57:59] <gamax92> I never said it was
L651[13:58:14] <Wah1> gonna need the version i used many years prior to this piece of crap
L652[13:58:47] <Wah1> it had working programs
L653[13:59:00] <Wah1> it worked without being crap!
L654[13:59:18] <gamax92> it's probably just you
L655[14:00:15] <Michiyo> ^
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L657[14:01:44] <Wah1> just get me the fucking addons and stuff instead of telling me the are missing!
L658[14:02:49] <Wah1> this os will be replaced by an older version.
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L660[14:04:28] <payonel> Wah1: ubuntu is a good option as well
L661[14:06:14] <gamax92> payonel: RAWR
L662[14:06:24] <gamax92> allow me to make the ocemu filesystem not show up in install
L663[14:06:26] <gamax92> D:<
L664[14:06:39] <gamax92> I'll just hack it. PATCHES I SAY
L665[14:08:13] <payonel> gamax92: should a fs be able to omit itself from install?
L666[14:08:25] <payonel> like...maybe something like .prop { dontlookatme=true }
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L668[14:11:05] <gamax92> yeah
L669[14:11:37] <gamax92> payonel: or like... doesn't it need a .prop to install?
L670[14:12:02] <gamax92> I guess not
L671[14:13:12] <gamax92> #lua o="" for i=1,32 do o=o..string.char(math.random(32,126)) end return o
L672[14:13:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > ioV@P*ZL'Fw0B27|Lu${tm\84+LR~2ri
L673[14:14:15] <gamax92> I crashed the installer with a bad .prop
L674[14:15:28] <payonel> gamax92: no .prop required, .prop can just provide some default values for things like the name of the install (else fs label is used), or if the install should reboot, etc
L675[14:15:29] <Vexatos> payonel, what about http://git.io/v104A
L676[14:15:49] <payonel> Vexatos: did i close that in error?
L677[14:16:00] <Vexatos> payonel, read the last comment
L678[14:16:07] <Vexatos> gamax92, basically, once the package selene-openos runs on it you win the game
L679[14:16:24] <payonel> Vexatos: i didnt check if dw's pack is 1.10
L680[14:16:26] <payonel> is it?
L681[14:16:43] <Vexatos> Well which MC versions have the build 1.6.0.4
L682[14:17:12] <Vexatos> (hint: There is only one)
L683[14:17:32] <payonel> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-1.6-MC1.7.10/4/ is 1.6.0.4
L684[14:17:35] <payonel> but for 1.7.10
L685[14:17:59] <Vexatos> You know that was half a year ago
L686[14:18:10] <Vexatos> try again
L687[14:18:25] <payonel> you're probably right - but this is not definitive, i.e. not "only one"
L688[14:18:28] <Amerem> https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAPOAAAAJDg2OTg0MWEzLWVhMWQtNDc4OS1hMzM3LWUxZWY4MDA4NTRiZQ.jpg lol
L689[14:19:07] <Forecaster> would have been funnier if it said "Dead Zelda"
L690[14:19:46] <Amerem> using oppms presets I managed to get big reactor readouts working
L691[14:20:03] <Amerem> oh im sure a dead zelda is around somewhere
L692[14:20:10] <Inari> Its a joke
L693[14:20:13] <Inari> on people calling link zelda
L694[14:20:21] <Inari> Since its legend of zelda, but its 99% link
L695[14:22:07] <Amerem> well idk about that I found it when I was trying to find a forum page that no longer exists lol
L696[14:22:13] <payonel> Vexatos: thanks for pointing that out. next time i'll ask for specific version info
L697[14:22:59] <Vexatos> (Yes, the only DW20 pack that contains opencompuderps is 1.10(
L698[14:23:30] <payonel> gamax92: i'll update /bin/install [soon] for .prop omission
L699[14:23:40] <payonel> maybe... {omit=true}?
L700[14:24:48] <gamax92> sure
L701[14:26:16] <Vexatos> gamax92, does oppm work on it :>
L702[14:27:42] <gamax92> Vexatos: it?
L703[14:27:53] <Izaya> Skye: <3
L704[14:27:54] <Vexatos> ocemu
L705[14:27:55] <Vexatos> :>
L706[14:27:56] <gamax92> yes
L707[14:28:01] <gamax92> payonel: http://hastebin.com/ajejebofev.lua
L708[14:28:01] <Vexatos> noice
L709[14:28:04] <gamax92> 10/10 best .prop
L710[14:28:10] <Vexatos> looks
L711[14:28:12] <Vexatos> .proper
L712[14:28:14] <Vexatos> :⁾
L713[14:28:15] <gamax92> ooooooooooooh
L714[14:29:20] <S3> ooh
L715[14:29:46] <S3> what are we oohing at
L716[14:29:56] <Skye> Izaya, wha?
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L718[14:32:24] <Wah> so yeah, i just want a better Linux that doesnt need a package for everything to run.
L719[14:33:38] <S3> what do you mean Wah
L720[14:33:56] <SolraBizna> install Debian and do: aptitude install ~
L721[14:34:09] <payonel> gamax92: haha, nice
L722[14:34:18] <Skye> Izaya, why the ping?
L723[14:35:48] * Skye pings Izaya
L724[14:36:23] <S3> ping
L725[14:36:35] <S3> now we pinged ping
L726[14:36:37] <ping> Pls
L727[14:36:39] <S3> oops
L728[14:36:48] <Skye> "<Izaya> Skye: <3"
L729[14:36:50] <S3> poor ping
L730[14:36:51] <S3> lol
L731[14:36:51] <Skye> what does that mean
L732[14:37:05] <S3> Skye: that means lurve
L733[14:37:22] <Skye> I hope not
L734[14:37:26] <S3> oh
L735[14:37:26] <Skye> that would be awkward.
L736[14:37:33] <S3> okay then'
L737[14:38:24] <Wah> i could also just install Ubuntu, but i would have to download the iso for it first, and then burn a DVD for it.
L738[14:38:42] <Skye> maybe Izaya thanked me for something, but what?
L739[14:39:02] <S3> Wah: you know
L740[14:39:23] <S3> I prefer Slackware for Linux, and everything else to be FreeBSD
L741[14:39:43] <S3> But I am unsure if you have the patience for either.
L742[14:40:06] <Wah> i dont have the patience for linux anymore if its not ubuntu.
L743[14:40:19] <S3> haha
L744[14:40:23] <S3> why is that
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L746[14:40:33] <S3> I don't have any patience for Ubuntu
L747[14:40:35] <Izaya> Skye: I'll greet you in hell too :D
L748[14:40:40] <Wah> i dont want to install tons of packages after installing the os, i just wanna use it!
L749[14:40:45] <ping> Lol
L750[14:40:54] <gamax92> then you are stupid
L751[14:41:03] <Skye> Izaya, ohhh
L752[14:41:04] <Skye> I see
L753[14:41:10] <Skye> nah, hell seems too warm
L754[14:41:17] <S3> slackware comes with a lot of stuff that a normal programmer would want
L755[14:41:18] <Wah> imma just gonna get a mac
L756[14:41:24] <Izaya> it's a little warm recently
L757[14:41:27] <Izaya> it's nice
L758[14:41:28] <ping> People use Linux for different things
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L760[14:41:32] <Izaya> more than 35C
L761[14:41:36] <S3> Wah: the place I work for gave me a mac, guess what I did with it?
L762[14:41:40] <gamax92> not even a mac comes preinstalled with everything, you'll still have to download packages and run their installers
L763[14:41:41] <ping> I wouldn't want my OS pre install packages I don't want
L764[14:41:43] <S3> I accepted it and threw Arch on it
L765[14:42:17] <Wah> why is there no os which can play mp3 and mp4 out of the box?
L766[14:42:24] <ping> Both Ubuntu and debian have a software select menu, let's you choose DM, accessories, games etc
L767[14:42:31] <S3> Wah: slackware can play mp3s
L768[14:42:31] <SolraBizna> Wah: patents
L769[14:42:33] <S3> and mp4s
L770[14:42:39] <S3> it comes with mplayer and mpg321
L771[14:42:43] <gamax92> didn't mp3's patent expire recently?
L772[14:42:49] <Izaya> I have a Mac on my desk
L773[14:42:52] <SolraBizna> it did
L774[14:43:00] <ping> The good mp3 codec is still nonfree
L775[14:43:00] <SolraBizna> the MPEG-4 patents are still good though
L776[14:43:10] <gamax92> and also ... ubuntu offers you to install extra codecs such as mp3 on install ...
L777[14:43:22] <Michiyo> The last of these patents expires in April of 2017
L778[14:43:22] <Izaya> it's a G4 eMac, 800Mhz, nice CRT, really shitty GPU
L779[14:43:24] <S3> Wah: you may want to look into Slackware if you don't care about all of the cutting edge software and extre user friendly bullshit Ubuntu does
L780[14:43:35] <S3> Slackware comes with a lot of stuff that does things...
L781[14:44:11] <S3> here Wah I'll get you the included packages txt
L782[14:44:16] <ping> I mean I can just one line an apt-get for everything I want and just walk away for a minute
L783[14:44:38] <S3> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/slackware64-14.2/PACKAGES.TXT
L784[14:44:42] <S3> Wah: ^
L785[14:44:49] <S3> all of the packages that come with 14.2
L786[14:45:46] <S3> I like FreeBSD's port system
L787[14:46:14] <S3> especially now that FreeBSd has synth, which lets me deploy 1000 servers and compile all dependencies and software of everything from source all synchronized at once
L788[14:46:24] <S3> and then just tell another 1000 servers to do the same
L789[14:47:26] <ping> Wheras on windows I'm forced to go to the website, download installers, open installers, click through a barrage of UAC windows, click through all the installers making sure I don't install the installer malware, and pray to God that windows update doesn't interrupt them
L790[14:47:38] <gamax92> ping: unchecky :D
L791[14:48:20] <Wah> so, i am gonna use Ubuntu because better than openSUSE?
L792[14:48:21] <ping> In fact yesterday I had to reinstall solid works, visual studio, Vegas, atom, and 7 zip because windows thought it was a great idea to install updates
L793[14:48:40] <ping> gamax92: I had them disabled
L794[14:48:57] <ping> Then they randomly turned back on the last time I restarted
L795[14:49:10] <payonel> Wah: ubuntu is a good linux distro
L796[14:49:15] <ping> -_- it also reset my display settings and broke grub
L797[14:49:25] <gamax92> I just have windows update disabled and a custom notification to remind me to check every month or so
L798[14:49:55] <payonel> gamax92: ^ yep, also i installed a nice w10 update disabler
L799[14:50:12] <gamax92> payonel: err, what windows are you on?
L800[14:50:18] <payonel> 7
L801[14:50:22] <gamax92> I don't understand then
L802[14:50:26] <gamax92> 7 doesn't nag you to update
L803[14:50:28] <gamax92> 10 does
L804[14:50:34] <payonel> my gaming machine is 7, my other machines are linux
L805[14:51:08] <Michiyo> I must be like the only windows 10 user to not have an issue with updates..
L806[14:51:13] <payonel> gamax92: no nag if you remove the right updates and some registry stuff. i found a tool that does it
L807[14:51:13] <Wah> i nearly destroyed my win10 install because i deleted my ubuntu partition because i needed more disk space for windows
L808[14:51:23] <Forecaster> Michiyo: I don't either
L809[14:51:25] <Forecaster> :P
L810[14:51:31] <Michiyo> Theres 2 of us!
L811[14:51:36] <Forecaster> I shut my computer down frequently
L812[14:51:43] <Forecaster> (see every night)
L813[14:51:49] <payonel> Forecaster: same here
L814[14:51:50] <S3> what
L815[14:51:52] <Michiyo> I don't it runs 24/7
L816[14:51:54] <S3> Forecaster: why
L817[14:51:54] <payonel> even my linux laptop, every day
L818[14:52:08] <payonel> S3: i like things off when i'm not using them
L819[14:52:11] <S3> why would you shut a computer down
L820[14:52:16] <Wah> so currently im installing vlc media player again, and if it doesnt work, i'm gonna remove this os
L821[14:52:18] <payonel> also, my drive is encrypted, so when i'm on the bus and my laptop is off, it is safe
L822[14:52:24] <S3> payonel: make them part of SETI@Home
L823[14:52:26] <S3> :D
L824[14:52:35] <Forecaster> because it wears on the components if it's running all the time?
L825[14:52:44] <payonel> yeah, it's needless to have it running
L826[14:52:52] <S3> Forecaster: yes but most of them are not mechanical
L827[14:52:59] <Forecaster> ...so?
L828[14:53:17] <gamax92> Michiyo: I don't really have an issue with it, it's just that I'm usually in Windows to do gaming with friends, I get more gaming time in if I'm not waiting for windows to finish updates and then allow me to login
L829[14:53:23] <ping> S3: to give the PSU a break
L830[14:53:28] <S3> meh
L831[14:53:31] <S3> lame
L832[14:53:40] <gamax92> I'll probably allow w10 to do normal updating once I get an SSD
L833[14:53:42] <ping> I had my desktop running 24/7 for basically half a year
L834[14:53:48] <ping> And the PSU pooped out
L835[14:53:51] <Forecaster> plus it's noisy and I don't want it on when I'm sleeping.
L836[14:53:53] <Michiyo> I'm in windows constantly, so I'm always up to date
L837[14:54:07] <S3> I have some computers that have been rebooted, and shut down for moves, but have been running since 1999, my coppermine intel servers XD
L838[14:54:14] <S3> with 2 Pentium III's each
L839[14:54:21] <Forecaster> good for you
L840[14:54:22] <ping> gamax92: windows seems like a terrible waste of ssd space
L841[14:54:27] <S3> the SCSI hard drives are still spinning in them
L842[14:54:32] <payonel> ITT "WHAT you do it differently than me? you must be insane or misinformed!"
L843[14:54:34] <payonel> :)
L844[14:54:35] <ping> Maybe if you do a hybrid drive
L845[14:54:47] <gamax92> nah?
L846[14:54:56] <S3> you should install TempleOS on your SSD
L847[14:54:58] <S3> :D
L848[14:55:06] <gamax92> faster and more responsive computer, and you want me to keep Windows on a slow disk
L849[14:55:07] <gamax92> k
L850[14:55:14] <ping> Rn I'm trying to get KVM to boot fucking UEFI
L851[14:55:19] <Forecaster> I have no SSD's
L852[14:55:23] <ping> gama
L853[14:55:37] <ping> gamax92: I haven't really noticed a big difference
L854[14:55:44] <Wah> i want a Ubuntu 14.04 DVD.
L855[14:55:48] <gamax92> Wah: get one then
L856[14:55:52] <ping> Program start time yes
L857[14:55:57] <ping> Boot time yes
L858[14:55:58] <Wah> takes too long.
L859[14:56:02] <ping> Basic use nope
L860[14:56:03] <gamax92> ping: yes, that's why I want the SSD :P
L861[14:57:02] <ping> Once I get a Windows efi KVM running I'll just do a bcache
L862[14:57:20] <gamax92> I ... don't really have an issue with boot time and program start time in Linux though
L863[14:57:21] <S3> bah
L864[14:57:34] <S3> I care less about boot time
L865[14:57:53] <ping> I boot in 3 seconds after GRUB
L866[14:58:00] <S3> that intel server takes 17 minutes to boot.
L867[14:58:18] <S3> 17 minutes! but that's okay, because when it's running it stays running
L868[14:58:33] <gamax92> I took the time to setup e4rat and did notice a big improvement in boot time
L869[14:58:37] <ping> S3: windows?
L870[14:58:44] <S3> no
L871[14:58:53] <ping> Systemd?
L872[14:59:00] <S3> most of it is that it does a full RAM check on boot
L873[14:59:08] <gamax92> how much memory does it have
L874[14:59:10] <S3> it has 4GB of ram installed, it detects 3.something
L875[14:59:16] <Izaya> Wah: >ubuntu >not mint
L876[14:59:18] <S3> it has two Pentium IIIs
L877[14:59:20] <Skye> S3, 3.75?
L878[14:59:32] <ping> 4GB of ram doesn't take long to memtest
L879[14:59:38] <Skye> ping, Pentium 2
L880[14:59:39] <S3> whatever the max 32bit cap is
L881[14:59:41] <ping> Oh Pentium
L882[14:59:43] <S3> pentium 3
L883[14:59:44] <Wah> linux mint also seems nice.
L884[14:59:44] <ping> Riopp
L885[14:59:47] <S3> 1 Ghz
L886[14:59:53] <Vexatos> >also
L887[14:59:58] <Vexatos> Wah, ubuntu is crap
L888[15:00:05] <Izaya> P3s are glorious
L889[15:00:05] <S3> it does a write test for ever MB
L890[15:00:07] <S3> every*
L891[15:00:11] <Vexatos> 10 out of 10 ubuntu users use it because they don't know about mint :⁾
L892[15:00:14] <S3> which take a long time
L893[15:00:25] <S3> and the RAM is also registered memory ping so it does CRC checks
L894[15:00:32] <gamax92> ahh
L895[15:00:39] <gamax92> Vexatos: I use ubuntu because I hate mint
L896[15:00:42] <Vexatos> lies
L897[15:00:45] <gamax92> no lie
L898[15:00:50] <Michiyo> I know about mint.. I use Ubuntu
L899[15:00:55] <Vexatos> l i e s
L900[15:01:00] <Forecaster> ^
L901[15:01:02] <gamax92> got tired of mint being super outdated since it's LTS based
L902[15:01:04] <Forecaster> though on my servers :P
L903[15:01:09] <payonel> i...also dislike mint o_o
L904[15:01:21] <Forecaster> I love mint (chocolate)
L905[15:01:29] <Wah> ubuntu is rather fast on my pc.
L906[15:01:34] <gamax92> oh look, I want to use updated version of program X, but thanks to LTS I have to have a PPA to get the new version or grab all the new deb's for it
L907[15:01:40] <gamax92> oh look, I now have like 30 ppas
L908[15:01:43] <Wah> it was, atleast on my laptop.
L909[15:01:48] <gamax92> that do the same thing as a new version of ubuntu
L910[15:02:05] <Michiyo> Oh look this PPA conflicts with this OTHER PPA that I need to use (nginx and php-fpm I'm looking at you) :p
L911[15:02:07] <Izaya> why not just debian testing
L912[15:02:17] <payonel> i use ubuntu because of corporate - but i'm really liking it now
L913[15:02:42] <S3> it is also PC-133
L914[15:02:42] <S3> not DDR
L915[15:02:53] <Izaya> hey Ubuntu people how bullshit are the 'snappy' packages?
L916[15:02:53] <S3> lost my connection
L917[15:03:00] <gamax92> snappy?
L918[15:03:23] <Izaya> I remember some article about it a while back
L919[15:03:40] <Izaya> don't remember details
L920[15:03:47] <Wah> still no graphic interface on vlc
L921[15:04:13] <S3> CompanionCube: Today I thought of an interesting angle on networking
L922[15:04:31] <S3> CompanionCube: ever thought of constructing a protocol that would suit any purpose?
L923[15:05:25] <S3> imagine if all you're doing is transferring objects that are mixin-able with features so that things like requesting for features were simple and easy and adopting protocols wasn't hard, and encapsulation was easier..
L924[15:05:51] <gamax92> I'm not quite sure what snappy is ...
L925[15:05:59] <S3> gamax92: me neither
L926[15:06:28] <S3> http://cdn0.wideopenpets.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/snapping_turtle_4a.jpg
L927[15:06:30] <S3> this is snappy
L928[15:06:33] <gamax92> lol
L929[15:07:39] <Wah> can someone help me get vlc to run?
L930[15:07:55] <Wah> this qt4 thing is corrupted.
L931[15:09:57] <gamax92> apt-get install vlc
L932[15:09:58] <gamax92> vlc
L933[15:10:26] <Wah> on opnenSUSE
L934[15:10:47] <gamax92> pacman -S vlc
L935[15:10:47] <gamax92> vlc
L936[15:11:14] <gamax92> and I haven't used other distros in a long time like opensuse so can't help you there
L937[15:11:23] <Wah> and if it doest run after that?
L938[15:11:35] <Wah> should i then just trash the install?
L939[15:11:54] <gamax92> S3: do you support alpha testing for punch-through polygons?
L940[15:13:27] <Wah> still not working.
L941[15:13:38] <Wah> imma just trash this install.
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L943[15:15:10] <gamax92> am watching the redream project, I personally can't get it to run anything at all, but it's active and multiplatform
L944[15:15:49] <gamax92> Just look at this amazing website though: http://redream.io/
L945[15:16:19] <Wah> i want vlc to run!
L946[15:16:19] <Amerem> LOL its empty
L947[15:16:47] <Wah> someone give me the working files for xfce installs!
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L949[15:17:38] <gamax92> k
L950[15:17:53] <Michiyo> I would really like to ban them...
L951[15:17:54] <Michiyo> ._.
L952[15:19:05] <Vexatos> well then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH94fKtGr0M
L953[15:19:06] <MichiBot> Sega Game Coding in Assembly - Computerphile | length: 11m 13s | Likes: 3,866 Dislikes: 38 Views: 78,565 | by Computerphile | Published On 2/12/2016
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L956[15:20:03] <gamax92> first few seconds of the video and they're holding some huge unit, this is gonna be good
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L958[15:26:44] <Mettaton_Fab> so, you want to ban me openSUSE me?
L959[15:26:57] <gamax92> yeah
L960[15:27:09] <Mettaton_Fab> i was just pissed off because everything needs more packages.
L961[15:27:36] <Mettaton_Fab> so i decided that i will install ubuntu.
L962[15:28:34] <gamax92> #lua fucks
L963[15:28:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0
L964[15:29:24] <Michiyo> Mettaton_Fab, I'd rather ban you period, but I'm not a badmin
L965[15:29:55] <Mettaton_Fab> so now i cant decide which ubunt to use.
L966[15:30:00] <Mettaton_Fab> *ubuntu
L967[15:30:19] <Inari> Hm
L968[15:30:21] <Inari> Lewdmin
L969[15:30:45] <gamax92> Inari: tsundere admin
L970[15:31:05] <Mettaton_Fab> lubuntu is good, kubuntu is kde i guess, xubuntu i dunno, ubuntu gnome is just gnome and classic ubuntu is also good.
L971[15:31:35] <Izaya> xubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE
L972[15:31:54] <Izaya> it's decent
L973[15:32:00] <S3> Oh yes
L974[15:32:01] <Izaya> best option there anyway
L975[15:32:09] <gamax92> ubuntu mate :D
L976[15:32:10] <S3> The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment
L977[15:32:19] <Inari> Lewdomate
L978[15:32:38] <S3> I used XFCE way way way during like XFCE 2
L979[15:32:44] <gamax92> Inari: insert .deb into filesystem
L980[15:32:52] <Mettaton_Fab> so which should i use?
L981[15:33:04] <Izaya> my loonix desktops always end up using XFCE
L982[15:33:18] <Izaya> laptops I use awesome because small screens
L983[15:33:39] <Michiyo> yeah I use xubuntu
L984[15:33:56] <Izaya> Mettaton_Fab: xubuntu is sane enough
L985[15:34:00] <Mettaton_Fab> lubuntu would be good gecause lightweight, i also like kde, but classic has unity
L986[15:34:12] <gamax92> I'd go with xubuntu otherwise though
L987[15:34:21] <Mettaton_Fab> does kubuntu also have the app thingy?
L988[15:34:26] <Izaya> like it's still ubuntu but it has the least bad DE
L989[15:34:49] <gamax92> why is unity referred to as classic?
L990[15:34:52] <Izaya> lxde is nice enough but it feels too lightweight to be a DE
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L992[15:35:08] <Izaya> wouldn't MATE be more classic Ubuntu?
L993[15:35:18] <gamax92> yeah that's what I thought
L994[15:35:19] <Izaya> GNOME 2 basically
L995[15:36:33] <gamax92> is the xfce compositor gpu accelerated?
L996[15:37:34] <gamax92> oh, yeah I do see mentions of opengl usage with xfwm
L997[15:39:21] <S3> https://external-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQD8Vz8b2_aXqbTX&w=960&h=960&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fv34MGsE.jpg&hash=AQBB7GgAVdM0GN2w
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L1000[15:47:18] <Kodos> LOLOLOLOL https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Reika_Mods_Issues/issues/1236#issuecomment-265275374
L1001[15:47:32] <Kodos> I'm pretty sure that's wrong
L1002[15:47:47] <Kodos> Or wait
L1003[15:47:51] <Kodos> No, I'm just retarded
L1004[15:48:01] <gamax92> nah, Reika's right about that
L1005[15:48:22] <Kodos> Yeah
L1006[15:48:32] <Kodos> The issue is he's applying said connectivity to the base block class, right?
L1007[15:48:44] <Kodos> Which is what's causing all the blocks to do it
L1008[15:48:55] <Vexatos> gamax92, what about nodes that are not components
L1009[15:49:21] <gamax92> Vexatos: then you can't connect computers to them due to no component?
L1010[15:49:38] <Vexatos> gamax92, what do you think how OC cables work
L1011[15:49:43] <Vexatos> do they have a component? No
L1012[15:49:46] <Vexatos> Do they have a node? Yes
L1013[15:49:53] <gamax92> and?
L1014[15:49:59] <Vexatos> that's it
L1015[15:50:00] <Kodos> And things like shafts should be that
L1016[15:50:10] <Vexatos> just make the blocks be nodes without components
L1017[15:50:18] <Vexatos> and have the components themselves be accessible through adapters
L1018[15:50:32] <Vexatos> I explained this to Reika a couple of months ago
L1019[15:50:45] <gamax92> how is the adapter going to magically make a component appear when you made the blocks not have components?
L1020[15:50:51] <MGR> Vexatos, that's what I was thinking
L1021[15:51:01] <MGR> But I didn't want to say that, because I thought it wouldn't do anything
L1022[15:51:09] <Vexatos> gamax92, by having a driver adding the component instead of the block itself
L1023[15:51:09] <MGR> because I'm a nobody
L1024[15:51:17] <gamax92> ahh right, driers
L1025[15:51:28] <gamax92> ... typing
L1026[15:51:37] <Vexatos> yea driers are a great invention
L1027[15:51:45] * Vexatos runs away
L1028[15:51:53] * Vexatos d(r)ies
L1029[15:52:00] <MGR> heh
L1030[15:52:51] <Mettaton_Fab> S3, what is this thingie?
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L1032[15:53:19] <gamax92> Vexatos: Sangar also suggested something similar ish iirc ... he said that adapters could expose blocks that were neighbor only, effectively making the adapter a sorta proxy
L1033[15:53:33] <Vexatos> that's what adapters do
L1034[15:53:36] <Inari> exposing blocks? lewd
L1035[15:53:50] <Vexatos> components on network nodes propagate the network due to them being, well, nodes
L1036[15:53:51] <gamax92> Vexatos: ... that's currently functionality? Why doesn't it work for me then :|
L1037[15:54:02] <Vexatos> components added via an adapter are abstract
L1038[15:54:20] <Vexatos> they don't propagate a network because technically the adapter doesn't even know the driver knows about its own position
L1039[15:54:30] <Vexatos> gamax92, it should?
L1040[15:55:14] <Vexatos> the adapter will, during its check, skip adjacent blocks if they are from OC
L1041[15:55:20] <Vexatos> (basically, if they implement traits.Environment)
L1042[15:55:38] <Vexatos> but it won't skip any other environments
L1043[15:55:42] <Vexatos> by other mods
L1044[15:57:40] <Ember_Primrose> :3
L1045[15:57:43] <Ember_Primrose> :D
L1046[15:57:48] <Ember_Primrose> im so happy
L1047[15:58:15] <Forecaster> woo
L1048[15:58:17] <Ember_Primrose> http://www.speedtest.net/result/5855625170.png
L1049[15:58:46] <Ember_Primrose> @MGR
L1050[15:58:57] <MGR> @Ember_Primrose whoo!
L1051[15:59:00] <gamax92> :/ my mods folder is missing on hekate, ... so all my links are broken
L1052[15:59:04] <gamax92> welp time to rebuild jars
L1053[15:59:23] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L1054[15:59:31] <Ember_Primrose> gamax, ouch, thats not fun
L1055[16:00:27] <Mettaton_Fab> currently torrenting ubuntu, around 3 mins left
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L1057[16:04:53] <gamax92> Vexatos: http://i.imgur.com/2YVXDB9.png not working, no Pump component
L1058[16:05:39] <Vexatos> ah yea
L1059[16:05:45] <Vexatos> because Reika hasn't actually _implemented_ it
L1060[16:05:50] <Vexatos> I just told him how to do it
L1061[16:05:51] <Vexatos> and he
L1062[16:05:53] <Vexatos> ended up
L1063[16:05:54] <Vexatos> not doing it
L1064[16:06:03] <gamax92> "<Vexatos> that's what adapters do"
L1065[16:06:06] <Vexatos> ...
L1066[16:06:07] <Vexatos> yea.
L1067[16:06:08] <Forecaster> what a twist
L1068[16:06:11] <gamax92> you just told me this is what they do, and they don't
L1069[16:06:15] <Vexatos> That's what they do in general
L1070[16:06:22] <Vexatos> if anyone implemented that kind of support
L1071[16:06:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, there might be some sort of config option for this
L1072[16:06:52] <Vexatos> Because I do remember him doing _something_
L1073[16:07:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: your option involves others having to work with the Adapter
L1074[16:07:14] <gamax92> Sangar's idea was having the Adapter do this automatically
L1075[16:07:19] <Vexatos> what
L1076[16:07:30] <Vexatos> "automatically" in the sense of the mod author having to implement it
L1077[16:07:32] <Vexatos> obviously ,_,
L1078[16:07:55] <gamax92> no, in the sense that you put down the adapter to any old block and it'll expose the block to the computer despite it being set to Neighbor
L1079[16:08:06] <gamax92> not that the block has to support the Adapter
L1080[16:08:13] <Vexatos> That was never the case
L1081[16:08:21] <Vexatos> The adapter does propagate the network itself
L1082[16:08:23] <gamax92> yes that's not the case the plan was to change it to be that
L1083[16:08:32] <Vexatos> also, it wouldn't solve this issue
L1084[16:08:36] <gamax92> why not?
L1085[16:08:43] <Vexatos> because you could still accidentally place a cable next to a shaft and crash your entire network
L1086[16:09:06] <gamax92> the blocks would be set to neighbor so no
L1087[16:09:24] <Vexatos> well that involves the blocks being set to neighbor
L1088[16:09:32] <gamax92> and they are right now
L1089[16:09:35] <Vexatos> which is about as much effort as exporting the component into a driver :P
L1090[16:09:38] <gamax92> no?
L1091[16:09:39] <Vexatos> they are?
L1092[16:09:40] <gamax92> yes
L1093[16:09:47] <gamax92> all of the blocks in my test instance are set to Neighbor
L1094[16:10:00] <gamax92> or well, all of the Reika blocks
L1095[16:10:11] <Vexatos> gamax92, http://git.io/v10SW
L1096[16:10:27] <gamax92> and?
L1097[16:10:34] <Vexatos> it says "network"
L1098[16:10:38] <gamax92> and?
L1099[16:10:41] <Vexatos> not "neighbor"
L1100[16:10:54] <gamax92> Vexatos: do you not believe me?
L1101[16:11:07] <Vexatos> what I wonder is
L1102[16:11:15] <Vexatos> why would you still be getting component errors then
L1103[16:11:20] <Vexatos> or anyone
L1104[16:11:20] <gamax92> I'm not
L1105[16:11:23] <Vexatos> then
L1106[16:11:26] <Vexatos> why is this still an issue
L1107[16:11:47] <gamax92> because unless you have the mod that sets it to neighbor like I told you about, then it's network
L1108[16:12:15] <Vexatos> I mean
L1109[16:12:22] <Vexatos> why is it still reported as an issue in RotaryCraft
L1110[16:12:31] <gamax92> Vexatos
L1111[16:12:31] <gamax92> stop
L1112[16:12:32] <gamax92> now
L1113[16:12:40] <Vexatos> This issue was opened 5 days ago
L1114[16:12:42] <gamax92> Vexatos: listen
L1115[16:12:44] <gamax92> stop
L1116[16:12:56] <Vexatos> months after components had been turned to neighbor visibility
L1117[16:12:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: RotaryCraft still has network by default
L1118[16:13:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: shut the fuck up and listen
L1119[16:13:12] <S3> hey hey hey whats going on
L1120[16:13:14] <gamax92> the mod of mine sets them to neighbor
L1121[16:13:19] <gamax92> it's a separate mod
L1122[16:13:20] <S3> Vexatos and gamax92 dukin it out
L1123[16:13:23] <Vexatos> Well you didn't say that
L1124[16:13:27] <gamax92> I have
L1125[16:13:34] <gamax92> but now that you are actually listening
L1126[16:13:44] <Vexatos> ...you haven't
L1127[16:14:15] <Vexatos> You have merely stated that they are set to "neighbor"
L1128[16:14:32] <Vexatos> I didn't expect you to have meddled with it
L1129[16:14:35] <S3> I wonder...
L1130[16:14:46] <Vexatos> gamax92, in that case, just connect it directly
L1131[16:14:49] <Vexatos> i.e. not via adapter
L1132[16:14:53] <Vexatos> that should work just fine, no?
L1133[16:14:54] <gamax92> the point is to use an adapter
L1134[16:14:57] <Vexatos> It is
L1135[16:14:58] <gamax92> that does work
L1136[16:15:01] <Vexatos> but Reika will never change that
L1137[16:15:09] <Vexatos> I spent hours trying to convince him
L1138[16:15:19] <Vexatos> so yea
L1139[16:15:20] <Vexatos> no
L1140[16:15:29] <gamax92> yes but now you have to put computers next to each individual block you want to monitor
L1141[16:15:52] <gamax92> and the idea Sangar came up with was to make adapters act like proxies that support exposing blocks set to Neighbor
L1142[16:15:52] <Vexatos> or adapters
L1143[16:16:05] <gamax92> no, as we have stated and shown, that is not a current functionality
L1144[16:16:07] <Vexatos> that config option, DIRECTOC whatever it is in the actual cfg file
L1145[16:16:14] <Vexatos> if it's on, it will act like you said it does
L1146[16:16:16] <Vexatos> if it's off
L1147[16:16:25] <Vexatos> The blocks will have nodes
L1148[16:16:27] <Vexatos> without components
L1149[16:16:31] <Vexatos> and you can place an adapter next to one
L1150[16:16:38] <Vexatos> to get that one's component in particular
L1151[16:16:52] <Vexatos> the blocks will work like mere cables
L1152[16:17:04] <gamax92> B:"Direct OpenComputers Support"=true?
L1153[16:17:37] <Vexatos> ya
L1154[16:17:39] <Vexatos> turn that off
L1155[16:17:40] <Vexatos> and check
L1156[16:17:46] <Vexatos> make sure not to meddle with visibility
L1157[16:18:10] <S3> would it be stupid to want to make an opencomputers addon that made an embedded fixed memory, eeprom like flash card programmed rackmount unit? for example, one that has say 8 network cards and an internet, and tunnel card built in
L1158[16:18:20] <S3> for networking
L1159[16:18:47] <S3> I feel like it'd have no purpose and look cool
L1160[16:20:24] <Vexatos> gamax92, I'm waiting for your test results to confirm this
L1161[16:20:29] <Vexatos> But I am almost crying right now
L1162[16:20:39] <Vexatos> Because I think I know what you'll find
L1163[16:20:42] <Vexatos> and it's hilarious
L1164[16:20:52] <gamax92> doesn't work
L1165[16:20:58] <Inari> For a moment I tought someone had cancer
L1166[16:21:00] <Vexatos> y e p
L1167[16:21:01] <Vexatos> and
L1168[16:21:02] <Vexatos> you
L1169[16:21:03] <Vexatos> wanna
L1170[16:21:04] <Vexatos> know
L1171[16:21:04] <Vexatos> why
L1172[16:21:07] <gamax92> why?
L1173[16:21:08] <Vexatos> http://git.io/v10Qw
L1174[16:21:11] <Vexatos> : ^ )
L1175[16:21:25] <gamax92> ... lol wtf
L1176[16:21:41] <SolraBizna> ;|
L1177[16:21:41] <Vexatos> The system is fully implemented
L1178[16:21:44] <SolraBizna> *:|
L1179[16:21:46] <Vexatos> https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/DragonAPI/blob/530f105290ce9338e2822f8b58f01f1f02bb79b9/ModInteract/PeripheralHandler.java#L42
L1180[16:21:48] <Vexatos> see here
L1181[16:22:06] <Vexatos> the driver perfectly relays its calls to the block itself as if it was a native node
L1182[16:22:09] <Vexatos> but without being an actual propagated component
L1183[16:22:19] <Vexatos> It's just
L1184[16:22:25] <Vexatos> not registered
L1185[16:23:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: I could try to ASM in the code
L1186[16:23:25] <Vexatos> gamax92, just make your mod add the driver in init
L1187[16:23:30] <Vexatos> it doesn't matter which mods calls Driver.add
L1188[16:23:38] <Vexatos> just call Driver.add(new PeripheralHandler()); yourself
L1189[16:23:46] <gamax92> oh, lol
L1190[16:23:55] <SolraBizna> I am having trouble following this conversation because your nick lengths and your hats both match
L1191[16:23:59] <gamax92> in a bit, gonna get food
L1192[16:24:10] <CompanionCube> ayy
L1193[16:24:18] <gamax92> SolraBizna: my nick is red and everyone else is blue :^)
L1194[16:24:50] <Vexatos> gamax92, with that and direct OC config turned off, it should be that any RTC block acts as a cable and you can just place an adapter next to one to make it register any adjacent RTC block's component
L1195[16:24:58] <Vexatos> (including the blocks transmitting the network to the adapter)
L1196[16:25:18] <Vexatos> so you could have, like, case - shaft - shaft - shaft - extractor - adapter
L1197[16:25:22] <Vexatos> and it would get the extractor component
L1198[16:25:33] <Vexatos> that was the idea
L1199[16:28:09] <gamax92> well that would certainly make my mod a lot smaller :P
L1200[16:28:14] <gamax92> (not really)
L1201[16:29:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: what about both though: set to neighbor so you can just slap a computer down next to block, and adapter for components farther away from computer?
L1202[16:29:36] <gamax92> or would that not work if there's a component on the node too
L1203[16:30:03] <gamax92> also you were there for Sangar's conversation
L1204[16:31:02] <Vexatos> no that might work just fine
L1205[16:31:06] <Vexatos> I don't know :P
L1206[16:31:13] <gamax92> try it then :P
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L1208[16:32:55] <Vexatos> It's half past 11
L1209[16:37:53] <S3> 5:37
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L1211[16:43:06] <Michiyo> gamax92, what folder is missing?
L1212[16:43:21] <gamax92> Michiyo: I had a mods folder on the webserver
L1213[16:43:28] <Michiyo> lemme check eos
L1214[16:43:39] <Michiyo> it's still running just... not on the internet
L1215[16:44:11] <Michiyo> Yeah it's there.. no effing clue why it didn't copy ._.
L1216[16:45:48] <Michiyo> I'mma make a dir and untar your old public_html into it and you can copy shit out
L1217[16:47:08] <gamax92> alright
L1218[16:47:28] <Michiyo> done
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L1225[17:12:25] <Michiyo> Sorry about that gamax92 I had no idea why that directory didn't copy
L1226[17:12:32] <Michiyo> s/had/have/
L1227[17:12:32] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> Sorry about that gamax92 I have no idea why that directory didn't copy
L1228[17:13:27] <gamax92> Michiyo: no problem
L1229[17:13:53] <gamax92> problem however: trying to register PeripheralHandler requires that I have CC installed.
L1230[17:14:40] <gamax92> %tell Vexatos Trying to register the PeripheralHandler() ends up spitting an error that I need "dan200.computercraft.api.peripheral.IPeripheralProvider"
L1231[17:14:40] <MichiBot> gamax92: Vexatos will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1233[17:16:59] <gamax92> %tell Vexatos Also after sucessfully registering the PeripheralHandler ... adapters still don't work properly
L1234[17:16:59] <MichiBot> gamax92: Vexatos will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1235[17:17:07] <gamax92> so much for that
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L1238[17:23:02] <Michiyo> almost home time...
L1239[17:23:16] <Michiyo> then I get to take the kids to the library for santa letter stuff..
L1240[17:26:52] <S3> whatever happened to just writing letters for santa
L1241[17:27:08] <S3> then baking the letters in the cookies and eating the cookies after they go to bed christmas night
L1242[17:27:13] <S3> lol
L1243[17:30:35] <Hovercraft> they finally finished the lift in my subway station
L1244[17:31:36] <Hovercraft> why they built a glass lift in an entirely enclosed shaft is beyond me
L1245[17:31:39] <S3> way
L1246[17:31:45] <S3> on what server?
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L1248[17:34:55] <Hovercraft> irl
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L1254[18:23:34] <gamax92> car wouldn't start so that was fun
L1255[18:23:45] <gamax92> I'm also freezing now
L1256[18:24:22] <SolraBizna> I went outside to walk the dog in totally calm, 2°C weather
L1257[18:24:38] <SolraBizna> Within one minute of me walking outside, the wind started gusting up to 90kph
L1258[18:24:50] <SolraBizna> This place is crazy
L1259[18:25:46] <Kodos> What the fuckkkkk minecraft
L1260[18:25:53] <Kodos> I am NOT fucking fatally missing blocks and items
L1261[18:31:59] <Achai> gamax92: I have an idea for the Love2D NES thing
L1262[18:32:03] <Achai> JIT
L1263[18:32:12] <Achai> except we abuse LuaJIT and we generate Lua source code
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L1265[18:44:58] <gamax92> Achai: I mean I'm not actually working on it anymore but feel free to experiment
L1266[18:46:29] <Achai> kewl
L1267[18:46:51] <Achai> I've already increased the framerate by 2 fps on the Zelda title screen demo locally by doing FFI stuff
L1268[18:57:00] <gamax92> a whole 2 fps? :o
L1269[19:15:34] <Achai> lol
L1270[19:15:45] <Achai> i was testing in the wrong source tree
L1271[19:16:19] <Achai> Going from Love 0.9.2 to 0.10.0 gives me double FPS (ish)
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L1277[20:00:01] <SolraBizna> I hope btrfs check eventually finishes running
L1278[20:06:06] <Mimiru> *another* btrfs explosion? nice..
L1279[20:09:08] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: why are you running btrfs check
L1280[20:09:28] * SolraBizna points to Mimiru
L1281[20:09:50] <SolraBizna> dirty AC induced a transient failure in my SATA controller, causing a write to fail and btrfs to start screaming and panicking everywhere
L1282[20:10:29] <CompanionCube> how big is the filesystem
L1283[20:10:31] <SolraBizna> (at least I assume it was dirty AC, since the AC here is dirty and it happened while the power supply was under heavy load)
L1284[20:10:34] <SolraBizna> 2TB
L1285[20:10:46] * CompanionCube recently had a btrfs explosion...and managed to recover nearly all of the data
L1286[20:11:07] <CompanionCube> said data was immediately migrated to XFS.
L1287[20:11:17] <SolraBizna> But I love subvolumes so much!
L1288[20:11:29] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: ikr
L1289[20:11:36] <SolraBizna> (I'm not using any though...)
L1290[20:11:55] * CompanionCube was using subvolumes and lzo compression. issed features :(
L1291[20:12:37] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: in my case, the kernel seemingly arbitarily panicked and while the system came up once, it didn't do so again
L1292[20:12:48] <CompanionCube> Oh, and the output of'btrfs check' was measured in megabytes.
L1293[20:13:29] <SolraBizna> The system comes up fine, it just notices the aftermath of the failed write shortly after boot and switches the filesystem to read-only
L1294[20:13:36] <SolraBizna> so I'm hoping the data is pretty much intact
L1295[20:13:58] <SolraBizna> there were zillions of orphaned inodes, but none of them were from files I cared about
L1296[20:14:01] <SolraBizna> (I checked)
L1297[20:14:38] <CompanionCube> mine monted too but you would have...issues with certain files
L1298[20:15:04] <SolraBizna> I can't check any of my data right now because I don't want to lose my place in what is about to become a 10-hour btrfs check --repair run...
L1299[20:15:05] <CompanionCube> 'btrfs restore' had no such problems. (also,you didn't use --repair right?)
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L1301[20:15:21] <SolraBizna> I am using --repair, but only after I carefully checked the output of "btrfs check" for potential danger
L1302[20:15:42] <Caitlyn> Wait... why did *I* get pointed at?
L1303[20:15:52] <lperkins2> What's the cleanest way to set the index in a metatable to the metatable?
L1304[20:16:02] <SolraBizna> a single bad block and a truly impressive number of orphaned inodes was all there was
L1305[20:16:35] <lperkins2> you'll probably need to do an OS check to make sure those orphaned inodes weren't anything important...
L1306[20:16:55] <lperkins2> they're most likely whatever was most recently written
L1307[20:17:00] <CompanionCube> lperkins2: you missed out on the context there
L1308[20:17:08] <SolraBizna> They tended to fall into three categories: old system files, downloaded .debs, and files with checksums for names
L1309[20:17:15] <SolraBizna> there were a few oddball ones like several files whose names were only underscores
L1310[20:17:16] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: just wanted to make sure you heeded this warning: 'Warning: Do not use --repair unless you are adviced to by a developer, an experienced user or accept the fact that fsck cannot possibly fix all sorts of damage that could happen to a filesystem because of software and hardware bugs.'
L1311[20:17:25] <SolraBizna> I fall into the third class
L1312[20:17:54] <lperkins2> aye, anytime I even think about using --repair, I take a full disk backup first
L1313[20:18:14] <SolraBizna> The expected result of this repair is possibly some missing noncritical system files, and a corrupted Minecraft server
L1314[20:18:45] * CompanionCube used it after he had already restored the data and just wanted to see how far it would get before aborting/segfaulting
L1315[20:18:51] <SolraBizna> (and I am equipped to handle even missing critical system files)
L1316[20:20:39] * CompanionCube still has no idea what cuased the initial panic. It just hung and eventually I noticed the blinking capslock.
L1317[20:21:25] <SolraBizna> heck, if it comes down to it I can recover all of my important data since the last backup
L1318[20:21:49] <SolraBizna> if history has proven one thing, it is that filesystems fear me
L1319[20:22:29] <SolraBizna> I once accidentally overwrote the first few sectors of an HFS+ partition and then destroyed the partition table of the disk it was on
L1320[20:22:29] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: my current liux installation is ultimately the result of 'btrfs restore' transplanted onto another filesystem
L1321[20:23:01] <SolraBizna> so I wrote a custom tool to locate the backup superblock, deduce the correct start location, write a valid superblock and restore the partition table :|
L1322[20:23:10] * CompanionCube bets that --repair may end up segfaulting
L1323[20:23:25] <SolraBizna> you won't find anyone to bet on the alternative
L1324[20:23:32] <SolraBizna> I do have 32GB of RAM on that machine, though
L1325[20:23:56] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: the only truly alternative filesystem is ZFS.
L1326[20:24:42] <SolraBizna> I love ZFS
L1327[20:24:48] <SolraBizna> But...
L1328[20:25:03] <SolraBizna> Pretending the license issue isn't a problem, I had a ZFS filesystem undergo a far worse failure than the one I'm cleaning up now
L1329[20:25:49] <SolraBizna> also, as a poor person, I take issue with ZFS's "grow-only" attitude
L1330[20:27:14] <lperkins2> heh, it's also why i run btrfs raid 1, that way when something goes wrong, I can yank one of the drives, mount the other in degraded mode and try a repair. If it fails I have a second drive to try again.
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L1336[20:31:30] <SolraBizna> ultimately I find it difficult to trust hard disks
L1337[20:31:40] <SolraBizna> they're inherently failure-prone
L1338[20:32:38] <SolraBizna> let's spin a glass plate covered with rust particles at 120 revolutions per second, and hang a carefully balanced magnetic needle close enough to it that the Bernoulli effect would cause it to crash into the plate
L1339[20:34:33] <gamax92> SolraBizna: but SSD
L1340[20:34:44] <SolraBizna> but poor T_T
L1341[20:34:56] <SolraBizna> my laptop has one, though
L1342[20:35:04] <gamax92> ehh? how much GB would you need for one?
L1343[20:35:14] <gamax92> cause they're like a quarter a GB
L1344[20:35:50] <SolraBizna> it took me three years to run through this 512GB one
L1345[20:35:58] <SolraBizna> that includes storing a few of my own BluRay rips and failing to delete anything
L1346[20:36:18] <lperkins2> steam games go through space fast...
L1347[20:36:32] <SolraBizna> switching to Linux took away most of the larger games in my Steam library
L1348[20:36:33] <lperkins2> so does rebuilding your machine and just archiving the old install 'just in case'
L1349[20:37:07] <lperkins2> latest opengl has decent support for directx 11
L1350[20:37:13] <SolraBizna> I have 15GB of that on here
L1351[20:37:15] <gamax92> lperkins2: ?
L1352[20:37:17] <SolraBizna> in squashfs form
L1353[20:37:23] <lperkins2> and the latest wine can use it
L1354[20:37:28] <gamax92> lperkins2: what do you mean
L1355[20:37:36] <gamax92> how does opengl support dx11 :P
L1356[20:37:42] <SolraBizna> DX11-level features
L1357[20:37:55] <lperkins2> so most directx 11 programs fail to run in wine, because wine translates directx calls to opengl
L1358[20:37:57] <gamax92> yeah but that's always been a thing, feature wise, but not ... DX11 wise
L1359[20:38:23] <lperkins2> there were no analogues to most of the directx11 calls, so nothing to translate to
L1360[20:38:30] <lperkins2> hence crash or black screen
L1361[20:39:40] <gamax92> what so ... does opengl 4.6 or whatever now have necessary extensions for equivalant dx11 stuff?
L1362[20:39:44] <lperkins2> directx 4.5 includes a bunch of analogues to directx11, which means directx11 programs run in wine 1.9.17+
L1363[20:39:57] <lperkins2> directx 4.6, when it comes out, will probably have more
L1364[20:40:03] <gamax92> I assume you mean opengl 4.5 ...
L1365[20:40:07] <lperkins2> er, yeah,
L1366[20:40:10] <gamax92> and ... 4.5 is like more than 2 years old now
L1367[20:40:11] <gamax92> so ......
L1368[20:40:27] <lperkins2> yes, but it's only recently supported by driver vendors
L1369[20:41:26] <gamax92> nvidia has supported 4.5 for a while now
L1370[20:42:09] <lperkins2> er, 4.5+2016 ARB looks like
L1371[20:42:26] <lperkins2> takes driver 367.36.02 or newer
L1372[20:43:20] <gamax92> yeah cause ... we've had opengl 4.5 2 years ago and nvidia supported it on a lot of cards relatively quickly during 2014 :P
L1373[20:44:00] <lperkins2> hey, it's the first time in like 8 years that I got a new graphics card
L1374[20:44:56] <SolraBizna> I'm on the open source drivers
L1375[20:45:10] <SolraBizna> which, on my Thinkpad, seem to be traveling backwards in time
L1376[20:46:12] <SolraBizna> since upgrading from Mesa 10 to 12, I've experienced PCI-space memory smashing, a 5x performance drop, new out-of-spec behavior ("shader ran into a hardware limit; instead of failing gracefully, inserting a dummy shader and reporting success"), and 30+ second compile times for a 30-line shader
L1377[20:46:37] <gamax92> lperkins2: anyway ... did wine have a major breakthrough with dx11 recently or?
L1378[20:46:51] <SolraBizna> Overwatch seems to be spurring development of DX11 features under WINE
L1379[20:46:57] <SolraBizna> there was a big patch recently related to that
L1380[20:47:12] <gamax92> ahh yeah, the ~23 patches thing
L1381[20:47:13] <lperkins2> well, I can run overcooked, which is a directx 11 only game
L1382[20:47:37] <lperkins2> I think it's the only dx11 game I have, so I can't exactly do extensive testing
L1383[20:47:57] <SolraBizna> I miss Evolve
L1384[20:48:00] <lperkins2> and it doesn't run on 1.9.7 but does on 1.9.17 and 1.9.20,
L1385[20:48:00] <SolraBizna> I want the old Evolve back :(
L1386[20:51:05] <lperkins2> I'm on nvidia driver 370.28,
L1387[20:52:18] <gamax92> I'm on 375.20
L1388[20:53:12] <lperkins2> 375.20 only has a release candidate available for me, what OS are you on?
L1389[20:53:45] <gamax92> Manjaro
L1390[20:53:52] <Mimiru> I'm on 376.09
L1391[20:53:55] <Mimiru> ?
L1392[20:53:59] <gamax92> well that's windows
L1393[20:54:31] <lperkins2> ah, arch based, no wonder it's bleeding edge
L1394[20:54:40] <gamax92> and actually I need to downgrade to 370 but for some reason ... manjaro's testing repo has everything at 370 except for libxnvctrl
L1395[20:54:45] <gamax92> which breaks everything
L1396[20:55:26] <gamax92> and I also somehow have 375 installed, must have been pulled from the repo
L1397[20:55:28] <SolraBizna> okay, btrfs check --repair is officially infinite looping
L1398[20:55:59] <SolraBizna> everyone who bet against CompanionCube now has to pay up
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L1402[21:04:28] <gamax92> lperkins2: nvm I'm on 370 now
L1403[21:04:37] <gamax92> I must not have rebooted or something last time
L1404[21:07:24] <CompanionCube> 'The recommended installation method is to use Flatpak. Starting with version 0.6.13 using a single command is enough (if you want to intall in you user directory, add --user to the command):' this does not give me confidence that this is a good app
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L1407[21:21:22] <Dasm> Hello everyone
L1408[21:21:31] <Dasm> Does the cable have a limited range?
L1409[21:25:12] <lperkins2> not explicitly
L1410[21:25:25] <lperkins2> but it might not like going across unloaded chunks
L1411[21:26:43] <TYKUHN2> IIRC network cables remember endpoints and will bridge unloaded chunks... or is that CC?
L1412[21:27:02] <SolraBizna> if my workstation was working I could test this right now
L1413[21:27:08] <SolraBizna> s/was/were/
L1414[21:27:09] <MichiBot> <SolraBizna> if my workstation were working I could test this right now
L1415[21:27:37] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: how are you cchoosing to restore your data
L1416[21:27:59] <Dasm> Well, I have this setup in my creative world but when I try to run the same program in survival I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/qgMzYGt.png
L1417[21:28:49] <lperkins2> at a guess, your reactor isn't connected
L1418[21:29:47] <TYKUHN2> I remember someone having a reactor problem for no apparent reason. Try scrounging around the Support section. Also ensure your spelling is on point.
L1419[21:30:22] <Dasm> I'll compare my setups between creative and my survival game
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L1421[21:32:24] <SolraBizna> I'm going to shrink the current filesystem, create another filesystem on the second half of the drive, restore onto that, reformat the first filesystem, then restore back onto that
L1422[21:32:25] <Dasm> Maybe I missed a piece of cable
L1423[21:33:41] <TYKUHN2> I asked "Who needs physics?" And my friend responded "Make a game with falling arrows"
L1424[21:33:51] <TYKUHN2> Now I have giant equations everywhere
L1425[21:34:49] <SolraBizna> ERROR: unable to resize '/mnt/rescueranger/': Read-only file system
L1426[21:34:50] <SolraBizna> o_O
L1427[21:35:05] <Dasm> I DID miss a section of cable, thanks for the help guys
L1428[21:36:37] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: did you break another btrfs
L1429[21:36:50] <Dasm> And now.... too many components are connected to compuer?
L1430[21:37:07] <SolraBizna> I'm just old-fashioned and it blows my mind that the filesystem has to be not only mounted, but mounted re-write
L1431[21:37:20] <SolraBizna> for what has, in the past, been considered a dangerous operation that can only be safely done offline
L1432[21:37:26] <SolraBizna> *read-write
L1433[21:38:15] <SolraBizna> if SOMEONE[1] is going to convince me to switch to another filesystem, say, XFS, this is their chance
L1434[21:38:39] <CompanionCube> SolraBizna: Would it similarly blow your mind that it is/was entirely possible on btrfs to get ENOSPC when *deleting* files
L1435[21:39:03] <SolraBizna> no, because I understand the design aspects that led to the problem
L1436[21:39:15] <TYKUHN2> Dasm what reactor mod are you using again?
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L1439[21:40:56] * CompanionCube is not going to convince you
L1440[21:41:18] <CompanionCube> Instead, just consider if you think that btrfs's advanced functionality is worth the hassle/restorations.
L1441[21:42:02] <Dasm> How the heck are there 18 comonents connected to the computer? The only thing I have on it is the screen, access port, keyboard, and reactor port
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L1443[21:43:01] <SolraBizna> Some non-obvious things count as components
L1444[21:43:07] <SolraBizna> Disks, floppies, cards all count
L1445[21:44:39] <SolraBizna> the tmp filesystem and the computer itself also count, IIRC
L1446[21:45:03] <TYKUHN2> Isn't that the mod where every block acts as a cable?
L1447[21:45:11] <Dasm> I don't have any floppies installed, the OS is installed on the HDD
L1448[21:46:49] <TYKUHN2> Try adding support for more components and if you can scan what components are installed. That mod is a bit strange with it's handling.
L1449[21:47:44] <Dasm> I don't have any extra parts on this computer when compared to the build done in creative, unless the extra control rods or ports in the reactor are counting as components too- How do I overcome this? A server?
L1450[21:49:30] <neX!Tem> oh man
L1451[21:50:08] <SolraBizna> what is the component limit of a T3 CPU?
L1452[21:51:16] <Dasm> 16
L1453[21:51:19] <Dasm> I need 2 more
L1454[21:51:43] <SolraBizna> yeah, you may need to use a server
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L1456[21:53:46] <TYKUHN2> How about a component bus?
L1457[21:54:02] <TYKUHN2> Oh nVM
L1458[21:54:40] <neX!Tem> how are you doing SolraBina?
L1459[21:54:45] <neX!Tem> how are you doing SolraBizna?
L1460[21:57:14] <SolraBizna> I accidentally made the fire too hot
L1461[21:57:35] <SolraBizna> The entire stove was over 100°C
L1462[21:57:51] <gamax92> r.i.p
L1463[21:58:00] <gamax92> put your btrfs filesystem in it ;D
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L1467[22:00:13] <Dasm> SolraBizna: So I need 2 servers in a rack with CPUs that have a total of 18 or more component capability?
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L1469[22:00:31] <SolraBizna> You can make a single server have additional component capacity
L1470[22:00:36] <SolraBizna> up to 64(?)
L1471[22:01:49] <Dasm> Wait.. how? I can only put one CPU in the T3 server that is in the rack
L1472[22:01:49] <Caitlyn> Dasm, like SolraBizna said, Servers can use Component Buses
L1473[22:02:15] <Caitlyn> 1 t3 CPU, and 3 t3 component busses gives you 6 4 components iirc
L1474[22:02:26] <Caitlyn> s/6 4/64/
L1475[22:02:26] <MichiBot> <Caitlyn> 1 t3 CPU, and 3 t3 component busses gives you 64 components iirc
L1476[22:02:43] <neX!Tem> I got a Tier2 PC running, I'd like to add a Internet Card, But it takes the same slot as a graphics card, Do I need to go Tier3 or am I missing somethingh ere?
L1477[22:02:55] <Caitlyn> Yes
L1478[22:03:02] <SolraBizna> You could go down to a tier 1 graphics card, or make an APU
L1479[22:03:03] <Dasm> So I need this server.. and a component bus
L1480[22:03:33] <neX!Tem> ah ok nah I will make this one Tier 3, so this is gonna be my main pc to download stuff from my pc ?
L1481[22:03:37] <Dasm> Am I going to hook this server up to the T3 computer I already have? My head hurts, this is deep
L1482[22:03:50] <Caitlyn> No, the server will replace the computer.
L1483[22:04:19] <SolraBizna> other than the component bus, all of the parts currently inside your case will go inside the server
L1484[22:04:25] <Caitlyn> also.. make sure you link the server to the proper side in the rack gui
L1485[22:04:57] <SolraBizna> computer cases connect to components on every side, servers can only connect to components on a (configurable) side of the rack
L1486[22:05:41] <Dasm> Okay! thanks
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L1488[22:13:33] <Dasm> Is there any special way the server rack has to be oriented to recieve power from the power distributor?
L1489[22:14:22] <Caitlyn> I usually just stick it on the cable
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L1492[22:16:15] <Dasm> Any idea why neither of these recieve power? I have it hooked up to a capacitor bank with 10million RF
L1493[22:16:17] <Dasm> http://imgur.com/a/FTtod
L1494[22:16:56] <Caitlyn> what MC / OC version?
L1495[22:18:12] <Dasm> 1.6.03 OC 1.10.2 MC
L1496[22:18:17] <Caitlyn> Update OC
L1497[22:18:42] <Caitlyn> IIRC that's been fixed
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L1499[22:18:58] <neX!Tem> any way to copy text ?
L1500[22:19:08] <Caitlyn> From oc? No
L1501[22:19:15] <neX!Tem> yea, okay ^^
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L1503[22:19:24] <Amerem> you got a power acceptor?
L1504[22:19:29] <Caitlyn> pipe output to a file, then open the file in an editor if in SP?
L1505[22:19:37] <Caitlyn> :P
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L1508[22:20:43] <Dasm> Corded: The thing with the 3 small black rectangles is the power acceptor
L1509[22:21:02] <Caitlyn> Corded is a bridge, the user is Amerem
L1510[22:21:23] <neX!Tem> haha nah It was just for the Pastebin id
L1511[22:21:34] <neX!Tem> I uploaded something from ingame that I coded, ^^
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L1514[22:25:47] <Amerem> oh ok I thought so but wasn't sure
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L1522[23:05:54] <TYKUHN2> "I came, I saw, I blew shit up, and I came again"
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L1525[23:16:30] <neX!Tem> my computer does not want to boot the lua EEPROM anymore, I have 2 of them bot both just throw a error
L1526[23:20:25] <neX!Tem> no matter how often I craft a new lua bios, it will just act as if it is a edited one...
L1527[23:21:05] <SolraBizna> what does it say?
L1528[23:21:37] <neX!Tem> require is a nil value
L1529[23:21:51] <neX!Tem> in init
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L1532[23:23:57] <SolraBizna> restart Minecraft?
L1533[23:24:12] <neX!Tem> wait a second I think I know what I did
L1534[23:24:19] <neX!Tem> I think I fucked my OS LOL
L1535[23:24:46] <neX!Tem> hahha i love this, IM an idiot
L1536[23:25:00] <neX!Tem> I edited init.lua of the OS on my harddisk
L1537[23:25:16] <neX!Tem> instead I should have use "flash"
L1538[23:25:21] <SolraBizna> well now you have a lot of spare EEPROMs :)
L1539[23:25:26] <neX!Tem> hahahahaha
L1540[23:25:53] <neX!Tem> dude this is so amazing, For I moment I had to troubleshoot my own mistakes ´, I'm a IT-Tech so I do this for a living XD
L1541[23:26:17] <SolraBizna> Good practice for being an OC-Tech
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L1543[23:28:51] <neX!Tem> Fixed!!! cp /mnt/EEPROM/init.lua /mnt/harddisk/init.lua
L1544[23:29:00] <neX!Tem> i love this mod
L1545[23:29:25] <SolraBizna> did you know there are alternate CPU architectures for OC?
L1546[23:29:36] <neX!Tem> like?
L1547[23:30:04] <neX!Tem> right now its ARM64 isn't it?
L1548[23:30:32] <SolraBizna> the default architecture is a fake CPU that directly executes Lua code
L1549[23:30:48] <lperkins2> 5.2 or 5.3
L1550[23:31:27] <SolraBizna> I'm working on an ARMv7a architecture module, and GreaseMonkey is working on a MIPS architecture module, and there are others that I don't know about because they haven't posted in the forums
L1551[23:32:03] <Dasm> Any one here have experience with MC servers?
L1552[23:32:12] <neX!Tem> me
L1553[23:32:28] <neX!Tem> depening on what you actually need ,but I setup many MC servers modded and not modded.
L1554[23:32:33] <Dasm> What does this mean when starting a serverstart.bat? java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
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L1556[23:32:53] <Dasm> I'll PM you the full message, sec
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L1558[23:33:10] <neX!Tem> yea do that because this could come from anything
L1559[23:33:38] <neX!Tem> probably wrong java path
L1560[23:34:06] <neX!Tem> sent the content of serverstart.bat too
L1561[23:34:14] <Dasm> Done
L1562[23:34:46] <neX!Tem> im on discord, I need to go to IRC first I guess wait
L1563[23:35:17] <Dasm> http://pastebin.com/s6LESphC
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L1566[23:35:42] <neX!Tem> ty
L1567[23:37:56] <Dasm> Did I paste the right thing?
L1568[23:38:40] <neX!Tem> gimme the crashlog too
L1569[23:38:55] <neX!Tem> can't really see anything wrong in the startbat
L1570[23:39:36] <Dasm> There's nothing in crash-logs
L1571[23:41:13] <neX!Tem> where did you get the packagE?
L1572[23:41:17] <neX!Tem> and what mc version
L1573[23:41:26] <Dasm> I don't think it was a crash so much as it was a failure to start because of missing libararies
L1574[23:41:46] <Dasm> 1.10.2 and I downloaded the server from FTB launcher's download server
L1575[23:42:38] <neX!Tem> you mean cursE?
L1576[23:43:06] <neX!Tem> nevermind
L1577[23:47:18] <neX!Tem> ok try to fullpath to your java installation
L1578[23:48:04] <neX!Tem> I guess you trying to run this on your own pc and not a dedicated server, probably has multiple java installations by now. I
L1579[23:48:06] <neX!Tem> I guess you trying to run this on your own pc and not a dedicated server, probably has multiple java installations by now.
L1580[23:48:14] <Dasm> How do I do that? Also I was able to start the server with minecraftserver.jre BUT ever modded block is completely missing
L1581[23:49:20] <neX!Tem> because minecraftserver is not forge
L1582[23:50:01] <Dasm> So how do I fullpath to it?
L1583[23:50:25] <neX!Tem> sec, im writing it for you
L1584[23:50:31] <Dasm> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_111\bin
L1585[23:53:51] <neX!Tem> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_111\bin\javaw.exe -server -version > java-test.log 2>&1
L1586[23:54:00] <neX!Tem> line 26
L1587[23:54:05] <neX!Tem> in your serverstart.bat
L1588[23:54:20] <neX!Tem> ahhh wait
L1589[23:54:22] <neX!Tem> line 55
L1590[23:54:27] <neX!Tem> not 26
L1591[23:54:32] <Dasm> REM TODO: use %JAVACMD% where java > NUL 2>&1 ?
L1592[23:55:06] <neX!Tem> **** C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_111\bin\javaw.exe -server -Xms%MIN_RAM% -Xmx%MAX_RAM% -XX:PermSize=%PERMGEN_SIZE% %JAVA_PARAMETERS% -jar %FORGEJAR% nogui
L1593[23:55:09] <neX!Tem> ok thats the line
L1594[23:55:20] <neX!Tem> its very early in the morning im still waking up lol
L1595[23:55:30] <neX!Tem> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_111\bin\javaw.exe -server -Xms%MIN_RAM% -Xmx%MAX_RAM% -XX:PermSize=%PERMGEN_SIZE% %JAVA_PARAMETERS% -jar %FORGEJAR% nogui
L1596[23:55:47] <Dasm> Okay, so my line 55 is currently.. java -server -Xms%MIN_RAM% -Xmx%MAX_RAM% -XX:PermSize=%PERMGEN_SIZE% %JAVA_PARAMETERS% -jar %FORGEJAR% nogui
L1597[23:55:52] <neX!Tem> that will force it to use your java, and not depend on "trying to figure out" where it is
L1598[23:56:20] <neX!Tem> Yea that should do it I believe
L1599[23:56:41] <Dasm> C:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command
L1600[23:56:51] <SolraBizna> needs quotes
L1601[23:57:03] <neX!Tem> yea forgot
L1602[23:58:32] <Dasm> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_111\bin\javaw.exe"
L1603[23:58:53] <neX!Tem> yes
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L1605[23:59:37] <Dasm> Starting server Exiting... Press any key to continue . . .
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