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L1[00:03:03] *** minecreatr is now known as Mine|dreamland
L2[00:10:11] <gamax92> Hey how's it going
L3[00:10:21] <gamax92> "Person is now away"
L4[00:10:36] <gamax92> *anxiety intensifies*
L5[00:15:04] <Antheus> lol
L6[00:15:16] <Antheus> I can't tell if my parents turned on our heater
L7[00:15:27] <Antheus> or my computer is just producing a lot of heat
L8[00:15:31] <Antheus> %quote
L9[00:15:31] <MichiBot> Quote #78: <ade124|NotAway> No quotes here
L10[00:23:15] <Antheus> %quote
L11[00:23:15] <MichiBot> Quote #91: <TheFox> I have safari, I hate it.
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L14[00:34:35] <payonel> gamax92: o/
L15[00:36:04] <gamax92> payonel: you should update ocemu
L16[00:38:03] <payonel> resize with cursor at end causes crash?
L17[00:38:08] <payonel> and what in ocemu needs updating?
L18[00:38:50] <gamax92> payonel: a bunch of stuff has changed recently, just grab the latest stuff off github :P
L19[00:39:55] <payonel> ah, you mean just update my local crap
L20[00:41:28] <payonel> ok coo
L21[00:45:16] <gamax92> but yeah, go into lua prompt, 'term.setCursor(1, 25) component.gpu.setResolution(80, 24)', computer is now locked up
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L25[00:50:59] <gamax92> payonel: the shell goes into an infinite crash loop
L26[00:51:26] <payonel> ah, yeah - i know exactly where the bug is
L27[00:51:51] <payonel> thanks for testing
L28[00:52:35] <payonel> i really want to redo the tty io, and remove the io code from term
L29[00:52:42] <payonel> but ... maybe a 1.7 thing :)
L30[00:53:00] <gamax92> I've also just found another bug in ocemu by trying to debug that
L31[00:58:15] <payonel> ok, i'll work on openos tomorrow, good night all
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L34[01:28:13] <Forecaster> um
L35[01:28:19] <Forecaster> Lizzy: what happened to gitlab?
L36[01:28:26] <Forecaster> it 502's
L37[01:36:35] <Forecaster> Kodos: ping me if you still need a solution to that sql thing
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L40[02:07:06] <Dasm> Hello? I booted my computer, but the screen isn't working and when I Rclick the keyboard, that screen is blank
L41[02:07:33] <Dasm> It makes the loading sounds from the OS floppy, but nothing else
L42[02:08:00] <Forecaster> take a screenshot of your setup
L43[02:08:11] <Forecaster> upload it to imgur or something and link it here
L44[02:09:35] <Dasm> blob:http://imgur.com/e31a8fa1-f403-4037-83b4-44b7a7b402ff
L45[02:09:52] <Dasm> Oops, here: http://i.imgur.com/H29InQn.png
L46[02:10:47] <Forecaster> oh, is there a gpu in the computer?
L47[02:11:07] <Dasm> Oh dang
L48[02:12:10] <Forecaster> :>
L49[02:14:26] <Dasm> So can I hook this up to my extreme reactors setup? (its a port of Big Reactors to 1.10.2
L50[02:17:31] <Forecaster> uh
L51[02:17:34] <Forecaster> I have no idea
L52[02:17:48] <Dasm> Apparently I can :D
L53[02:19:00] <Forecaster> great :P
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L59[02:24:23] <Forecaster> hm, a self-knockout
L60[02:24:26] <Forecaster> never seen that before
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L67[02:55:10] <Forecaster> hm
L68[02:55:43] <Forecaster> switched the nick color script
L69[02:55:52] <Forecaster> if only anyone was talking
L70[03:03:23] <Forecaster> ah nevermind, that looked terrible
L71[03:09:59] <Lizzy> Forecaster, errr, it shouldnt be doing that?
L72[03:10:11] <Forecaster> well obviously :P
L73[03:10:26] <Forecaster> but I can't access it
L74[03:10:47] <Lizzy> not sure why it's 502'ing, i havent even touched it
L75[03:10:51] <Lizzy> .load
L76[03:10:51] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.14 0.18 0.15 , RAM: 4.6G/31.3G (~14.8%), SWAP: 363.0M (~0.4%), Uptime: 443 days, 10:55:00.930000
L77[03:13:30] <Lizzy> oh
L78[03:13:35] <Lizzy> the root partition filled up
L79[03:13:37] <Lizzy> \o/
L80[03:13:40] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L81[03:13:41] <Forecaster> ah
L82[03:14:14] <Lizzy> so the sql database filled up
L83[03:14:17] <Lizzy> er
L84[03:14:21] <Lizzy> *couldn't write
L85[03:16:34] <Forecaster> tell me when you've fixed it, I want to pull some changes
L86[03:17:56] <Forecaster> Dasm: how's it going? :P
L87[03:18:33] <Lizzy> hmm, k so now nginx isn't giving the 502's but gitlab is
L88[03:18:41] <Lizzy> there we go
L89[03:18:45] <Lizzy> it's back now Forecaster
L90[03:18:52] <Forecaster> yay
L91[03:19:12] <Forecaster> woop, pulled
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L93[03:24:03] <Forecaster> wow, intelliJ 2016.3 looks so different
L94[03:24:10] <Forecaster> they changed the icons and the font...
L95[03:26:17] <Forecaster> I like it, but it's a bit jarring
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L108[05:57:03] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L109[05:59:00] <Inari> payonel: o/┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜┎━┐̤͜
L110[05:59:32] <Lizzy> that has just brought a fairly discusting image into my mind
L111[05:59:42] <Inari> HAha
L112[05:59:43] <Inari> whats that
L113[06:00:14] <Inari> Oh
L114[06:00:21] <Inari> I think I maybe know
L115[06:00:25] <Inari> But maybe I'm wrong :P
L116[06:00:48] <Lizzy> something with lots of legs
L117[06:00:52] <Inari> Ah
L118[06:00:54] <Inari> then I was wrong
L119[06:01:29] <Lizzy> lol
L120[06:02:28] <DaMachinator> to me it looks like a sea serpent
L121[06:04:00] <Inari> Lizzy: Since you said disgusting I thougth you meant the character does hitler salute and the thingies are cargo train wagons going to auschwitz :P
L122[06:05:07] <Lizzy> lol
L123[06:05:46] <Inari> Though maybe disturbing fits more for that
L124[06:05:47] <Inari> No clue
L125[06:06:30] <Inari> So lets test if Skyrim still crashes :|
L126[06:07:17] <Inari> I keep saying this, but MC crashlog is like: Here I crashed, thats why, And heres a list of what I was doing, okay? And here is a list of all mods, and herea list of all entities, and here are palyers too if you wanted to know, etc
L127[06:07:33] <Inari> Skyrim crashlog islike Game has crashed with exception address 0xF52E8A! Crash info: 2016_12_05_01-59-37 - F52E8A: V(1); EAX(33EB5E84); EBX(20); ECX(8); EDX(0); ESI(33EB5E64); EDI(0); EBP(2D78FC9C); ESP(2D78FC94); STACK(B29AB1 A57E95 4454A0 4DE332 B10638 65CD11 4A81F1 4A91C0 43B4BB 440780 4456C3 444C4A 443390 1010004 43BDAD 43BD9D 443754 699350 A4B4A0 699974 A4BB02 A4B4A0 A4B4A0 A4B4A9 A4B4A0);
L128[06:08:10] <Inari> Then you google 0xF52EBA
L129[06:08:12] <Inari> and it finds nothing
L130[06:08:14] <Inari> and you're SOL
L131[06:12:03] <Inari> The heck does SOL even mean
L132[06:13:20] <Inari> Shit out of Luck apparently
L133[06:13:29] <Inari> Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IuxvnhCfA
L134[06:13:29] <MichiBot> nightcore - Second To None | length: 2m 53s | Likes: 15,040 Dislikes: 364 Views: 2,798,831 | by Fujoshi nee-san. | Published On 16/1/2012
L135[06:16:43] <Forecaster> or, you're a star at the center of our solar system
L136[06:17:03] <Inari> A star?
L137[06:18:51] <Forecaster> Sol?
L138[06:18:54] <Forecaster> the sun? :P
L139[06:21:09] <Inari> Yeah
L140[06:21:14] <Inari> But "a star" sounds like theres multiple
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L142[06:22:56] <Inari> Now I want a good space game again :|
L143[06:23:53] <Totoro> i like how slowly this guide is getting to the point =)
L144[06:23:55] <Totoro> https://www.golang-book.com/books/intro/1
L145[06:24:21] * Inari wonders for how much Totoro fur would sell
L146[06:24:53] <Totoro> it's priceless :P
L147[06:26:02] * Inari gets her hunting knife
L148[06:26:47] * Totoro hides
L149[06:26:55] <Inari> your hide?
L150[06:27:07] <Totoro> :3
L151[06:27:08] * Inari is bored :|
L152[06:27:21] <Izaya> good space game?
L153[06:27:26] <Inari> Yeah :P
L154[06:27:37] <Inari> Star Citizen 3.0 is taking its time
L155[06:28:28] <Totoro> is SC already playable?
L156[06:28:37] <Inari> Well
L157[06:28:40] <Inari> depends on what you call playable?
L158[06:29:04] <Inari> My main issue with the current version is, it likes to crash on me
L159[06:29:10] <Inari> Which wouldn tbe so much an issue by itself
L160[06:29:18] <Inari> But half the time it does it freezes my PC :D
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L162[06:29:44] <Totoro> =)
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L164[06:31:49] <Totoro> i watched the first trailers of Star Citizens, a long time ago
L165[06:31:54] <Totoro> it looked awesome
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L167[06:33:27] <Totoro> especially the part with the landing
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L172[06:48:14] * Lizzy wants a hexidecimal numpad
L173[06:49:34] <Inari> Totoro: Seen the citizencon preview of 3.0?
L174[06:52:04] <Izaya> black mirror is terrifying
L175[06:52:29] <xandaros> How many tabs does the OC manual have without additional mods? 1?
L176[06:53:53] <Totoro> Inari: nope
L177[06:54:13] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ithatHHjBKM though You can jump to like 3:30 or such if yuo don't care for flying across landscape lol
L178[06:54:13] <MichiBot> Star Citizen Alpha 3.0 Gameplay Demo Procedural Planets v2 (Citizencon 2016) | length: 28m 53s | Likes: 145 Dislikes: 9 Views: 18,941 | by Games from Mars | Published On 10/10/2016
L179[06:58:46] <Totoro> wow
L180[07:06:21] <Kodos> If Star Citizen ever gets a ship startup like Rogue System has, I'll be interested
L181[07:06:52] <Inari> HAha
L182[07:06:54] <Inari> doubt it will
L183[07:08:21] <Saphire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgfwwqwxdxY
L184[07:08:22] <MichiBot> Factorio - Sandstorm | length: 3m 56s | Likes: 3,018 Dislikes: 17 Views: 189,110 | by DaveMcW | Published On 20/11/2016
L185[07:08:43] <Saphire> inb4 tutorials for making an x86 CPU in factorio soon
L186[07:09:04] <Saphire> Okay, maybe not x86
L187[07:09:27] <Inari> SPH CPU
L188[07:13:17] <Saphire> Uh..?
L189[07:13:25] <Inari> Saphire CPU
L190[07:13:25] <Inari> :p
L191[07:13:31] <Saphire> .__.
L192[07:16:44] <xandaros> Saphire: I had actually seen that before. Bloody amazing
L193[07:17:11] <xandaros> Must have taken forever to render, though. It's paying at 1fps, after all...
L194[07:17:15] <xandaros> *playing
L195[07:17:37] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlW3S4V29Y
L196[07:17:37] <MichiBot> Shenzhen I/O - Tetris Gameplay | length: 2m 28s | Likes: 79 Dislikes: 1 Views: 2,311 | by Ivan Neeson | Published On 24/11/2016
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L201[07:50:32] <Izaya> PDP-8
L202[07:52:02] <Forecaster> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002T1ICX0/ref=?tag=natdee-20
L203[07:52:04] <Forecaster> what
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L206[08:07:27] <Caitlyn> Happy Birthday Kodos
L207[08:09:51] <Mettaton_Fab> this is worse: https://www.amazon.com/Personalized-pillowcase-Dakimakura-Hugging-Skeleton/dp/B01DJ115G4/ref=sr_1_10?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1480946958&sr=1-10&keywords=dakimakura
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L209[08:15:44] <DaMachinator> should I install computronics
L210[08:18:09] *** cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L211[08:18:53] <Caitlyn> No! It'll corrupt your world and kick your puppy! ... Or does it corrupt your puppy and kick your world? fuck I don't remember shit give it a shot and lemme know
L212[08:18:54] <Caitlyn> :P
L213[08:23:43] <DaMachinator> more seriously: I'm running on a laptop. Every extra mod is more work for the processor.
L214[08:24:28] <Forecaster> only if you add stuff to the world
L215[08:24:35] <Forecaster> and on startup
L216[08:24:50] <Forecaster> most mods don't do anything otherwise
L217[08:24:53] <Caitlyn> %tell Kodos Happy Birthday!
L218[08:24:54] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Kodos will be notified of this message when next seen.
L219[08:26:23] <DaMachinator> time to see if i can find some information on it, then
L220[08:27:23] <Forecaster> it adds stuff to the oc manual
L221[08:27:36] <Forecaster> s/stuff/it's stuff/
L222[08:27:36] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> it adds it's stuff to the oc manual
L223[08:30:48] <DaMachinator> hmm
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L225[08:31:07] <DaMachinator> apparently there's a mod that lets you put computers in minecarts because this is a useful feature that everyone needs
L226[08:31:47] <DaMachinator> more seriously, you could probably do some fun things with long-distance data transfer with it...
L227[08:32:10] <Forecaster> I have that
L228[08:32:14] <Forecaster> oc-minecarts
L229[08:32:28] <Forecaster> it's more like a robot in a minecart actually
L230[08:32:37] <Forecaster> well, it is
L231[08:33:30] <DaMachinator> i assume it works reasonably well?
L232[08:35:49] <Forecaster> sure, I have't actually played with it yet, but when I tested it it worked fine
L233[08:36:04] <Forecaster> except a server-client sync bug with the power bar
L234[08:38:21] <Lizzy> hmm, okay so the linux-ck kernel and this ubuntu live install usb i have can't see my laptop's btrfs root with btrfs device scan yet my main kernel can do it fine...
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L236[08:39:19] <Forecaster> o,o
L237[08:41:32] <DaMachinator> isn't the function to get the type of an object "typeOf(object)"
L238[08:42:19] <Forecaster> type()
L239[08:42:27] <DaMachinator> thanks
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L242[08:53:00] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy
L243[08:53:05] <Lizzy> ffs
L244[08:53:12] <Lizzy> stupid znc/hexchat
L245[08:53:16] <Lizzy> %oclogs
L246[08:53:16] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L247[08:53:50] <Lizzy> okay, didn't miss much
L248[08:54:35] <Forecaster> :P
L249[08:55:03] <Lizzy> in other news my mum isn't too happy with Virgin
L250[08:57:48] <Lizzy> work was supposed to be carried out between 1000 and 1400, engineer turned up at 1400 and found there isn't a cable in the road for them to use so has been on the phone for 20 minutes and my mum's had to tell him to wait outside whilst she does the school run
L251[08:58:24] <Lizzy> her old sky internet is still active but there may be a possibility that we wont have internet after today for a while
L252[09:00:24] <Forecaster> at first I thought you said "my mum isn't a happy virgin"
L253[09:01:47] <Lizzy> that is true in both the fact that she's not happy and not a virgin :P
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L256[09:21:12] <Lizzy> meh, will try the linux-ck kernel in a vm later so i can test about with it before applying it ot live system
L257[09:22:52] <Stary[m]> Lizzy: rip
L258[09:23:52] <Lizzy> Stary[m], was the rip to my internet or kernel
L259[09:24:16] <Stary[m]> internet
L260[09:25:05] <Lizzy> ah, well my home server is still reporting back to nodequery (the monitoring service i'm using till i can be bothered to make my own) so i guess my mum's sky internet is still live but not sure how long it'll stay
L261[09:25:23] <Michiyo> NodeQuery ftw
L262[09:25:39] <Lizzy> yeah, it's rather nice
L263[09:27:35] <Lizzy> there was another one called sealion i think which would have been slightly better (more graphs on the dashboard) but you could only have 3 monitoring graphs active per server at any one time
L264[09:28:34] <Lizzy> which is annoying because i want to be able to see 1, 5 & 15 minute load averages, ram&swap usage, disk usage and iface usage
L265[09:29:27] <xandaros> What exactly is the benefit of this linux-ck kernel?
L266[09:30:15] <Lizzy> the one i was trying to use was linux-ck-haswell, it has specific optimisations for my cpu arch and can use some extra bits that the cpu provides for more performance
L267[09:30:31] <Lizzy> as well as using the ck patchset
L268[09:31:18] <xandaros> It seems interesting. I might install it alongside my current kernel and try it
L269[09:31:38] <Lizzy> it may take a bit to set up
L270[09:32:55] <Michiyo> Yeah I really liked sealion
L271[09:32:59] <Michiyo> but the limits were meh
L272[09:33:02] <Lizzy> ^
L273[09:34:15] <Lizzy> for the stuff it had, it would have been better than nodequery but it's limits were stupid
L274[09:44:12] <SolraBizna> anybody got 8GB of free disk space, a UNIX environment, and an hour or so of free time?
L275[09:44:24] <SolraBizna> I think my automatic toolchain building script is done
L276[09:45:00] <vifino> toolchain for what target?
L277[09:45:05] <SolraBizna> OC-ARM
L278[09:45:08] <Mettaton_Fab> is anything OpenSuSE UNIx?
L279[09:45:13] <Mettaton_Fab> *UNIX
L280[09:45:28] <vifino> Won't a plain armv6 toolchain do, SolraBizna?
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L282[09:45:43] <vifino> Or does OC-ARM emulate something other?
L283[09:45:54] <SolraBizna> It emulates ARMv7A
L284[09:46:21] <SolraBizna> to make matters worse it is big-endian by default
L285[09:46:38] <SolraBizna> my script builds both big- and little-endian toolchains, including in both cases a suitable C library
L286[09:46:48] <vifino> newlib?
L287[09:46:53] * SolraBizna nods
L288[09:47:25] <vifino> sounds cool; requirements? did you actually mean UNIX or just UNIX-like? POSIX?
L289[09:47:37] <SolraBizna> Cygwin is sufficiently UNIXy to count
L290[09:47:59] <SolraBizna> BSDs and Linux should absolutely work
L291[09:48:10] <vifino> Even non-gnu ones?
L292[09:48:31] <SolraBizna> Even non-GNU ones, though because crosstool-ng is cranky they will probably have to install GNU sed and awk and make
L293[09:49:31] <vifino> Sounds neat. I'll try it.
L294[09:49:50] * Lizzy snugsnugs vifino
L295[09:50:03] <SolraBizna> https://tejat.net/eph/build_occross_from_scratch.sh
L296[09:50:18] <SolraBizna> it should either build successfully after an hour or so, or successfully detect that it won't build very early on in the process
L297[09:52:37] <vifino> Other than depending on bash, the script looks okay to me.
L298[09:52:41] <vifino> I'll try it in a bit.
L299[09:53:12] <SolraBizna> I tried to make it work with any Bourne shell, but I got lazy
L300[09:56:08] <Lizzy> hmm, my home server needs some updates done to it
L301[09:57:25] <Lizzy> hmm, my pi is also not talking to NQ... hmm
L302[09:57:30] <Lizzy> will poke that later
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L304[09:59:18] <vifino> SolraBizna: oh, change /bin/bash to /usr/bin/env bash, please.
L305[10:00:33] <SolraBizna> Done
L306[10:00:44] <SolraBizna> though I'd rather make it work with any Bourne shell instead
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L308[10:02:45] <vifino> yeah, but this should make it run on freebsd.
L309[10:03:13] <vifino> at least i think bash gets installed to /usr/local/bin/bash because of taint.
L310[10:05:09] <Lizzy> on my system it's under /usr/bin/bash
L311[10:06:24] <SolraBizna> If you don't have GNU make installed, I am very interested to know whether it's required
L312[10:07:00] <Amerem> does zetta industries have any example programs on oppm?
L313[10:07:41] * Lizzy shrugs
L314[10:13:43] <gamax92> Hey there Lizzy
L315[10:14:03] <Lizzy> hi
L316[10:18:50] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkYRh6OXy8
L317[10:18:51] <MichiBot> Indestructible Coating?! | length: 7m 9s | Likes: 4,604 Dislikes: 23 Views: 46,215 | by Veritasium | Published On 5/12/2016
L318[10:20:50] <SolraBizna> making it portable was surprisingly easy
L319[10:24:16] <Forecaster> bouncy watermelon
L320[10:25:23] <Inari> Neat
L321[10:26:07] <Inari> watermelon brain
L322[10:36:18] <gamax92> watermelon Inari
L323[10:37:52] <Inari> wa wa wa
L324[10:37:55] <Inari> wa watermelon
L325[10:38:30] <Forecaster> http://owlturd.com/post/154076918244
L326[10:38:38] <Forecaster> sandwich analogies
L327[10:38:40] <gamax92> oh
L328[10:41:51] <gamax92> I'm going to go investigate some more LuaJ stupidity today
L329[10:46:44] <Dasm> Hello everyone
L330[10:46:52] <Forecaster> hi again
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L332[10:47:23] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L333[10:47:33] <gamax92> hey Vexatos
L334[10:47:39] <Vexatos> o\
L335[10:47:57] <Dasm> I'm running tests, so far so good. http://i.imgur.com/5Paw3ib.png
L336[10:48:16] <Forecaster> that's great
L337[10:48:27] <gamax92> eclipse wtf
L338[10:48:50] <SolraBizna> ^ perfect description of my entire day yesterday
L339[10:49:53] <Dasm> So, is it possible to wirelessly transmit the data that my OC adapter is receiving?
L340[10:50:18] <Forecaster> sure
L341[10:52:55] <Dasm> Would it be possible by using 2 computers with the "Linked Card" Addon?
L342[10:53:05] <Forecaster> yep
L343[10:54:03] <Forecaster> a linked card is basically a network card with a hard conncetion to eachother
L344[10:54:46] <Forecaster> a pair of linked cards, network cards, connection*
L345[10:54:54] <Inari> And if its flaccid you just stroke it a bit to get it to work
L346[10:54:58] <gamax92> :P
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L349[10:58:08] <Michiyo> And that's enough IRC at work, thanks Inari
L350[10:58:08] <Michiyo> :P
L351[10:58:31] <Forecaster> or is it?!
L352[10:58:53] <Dasm> Forecaster: Linked card isn't doable, its T3 and I need a T3 graphics card
L353[10:59:11] <Michiyo> Forecaster, no it's really not.. :P
L354[10:59:25] <Forecaster> I knew it!
L355[11:01:31] <Forecaster> Dasm: why did you ask then? :P
L356[11:01:36] <Forecaster> also use a server
L357[11:02:27] <DaMachinator> is there a special way one must define functions that are local to a program
L358[11:02:36] <SolraBizna> local functoin bleh() ...
L359[11:02:39] <SolraBizna> s/functoin/function/
L360[11:02:40] <MichiBot> <SolraBizna> local function bleh() ...
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L363[11:05:08] <Dasm> Forecaster: I wasn't sure if my program needed the resolution, I'm going to do some fidangling with the wireless network cards
L364[11:05:15] <Lizzy> home time!
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L366[11:08:36] <DaMachinator> what does the number given for "char" for the key_down signal represent?
L367[11:08:46] <gamax92> ascii code
L368[11:09:20] <DaMachinator> there's another one called "code" - I assume this is the Unicode code point?
L369[11:09:35] <gamax92> no it's the lwjgl keyboard code
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L371[11:12:25] <DaMachinator> ok lovely..
L372[11:12:42] <DaMachinator> well, it seems the ASCII codepoint for "q" is 0x71
L373[11:13:04] <gamax92> yes
L374[11:14:26] <gamax92> and technically the 'char' number is a unicode code point but it turns out 0-127 is the same in ascii and unicode :P
L375[11:15:09] <DaMachinator> because UTF-8 is intentionally compatible with ASCII in that manner
L376[11:16:17] <Dasm> How do I go from lua back to shell?
L377[11:16:36] <Forecaster> ctrl + c
L378[11:16:41] <Forecaster> or execute quit()
L379[11:17:05] <Forecaster> or maybe it was exit()
L380[11:17:25] <gamax92> ctrl+d
L381[11:17:45] <Dasm> Forecaster: your key combo worked
L382[11:17:54] <gamax92> ctrl+c and ctrl+d both work
L383[11:18:02] <Forecaster> ctrl+c is a "soft kill"
L384[11:18:12] <Dasm> When I see boolean.. that's true/false, right?
L385[11:18:15] <Forecaster> yes
L386[11:18:24] <Forecaster> or 1/0
L387[11:18:33] <gamax92> >_> Forecaster this isn't C
L388[11:18:50] <SolraBizna> in Lua, 1 and 0 are both true
L389[11:19:24] <LizzyTheKitty> How have I increased the font size of the icons on my phones home screen but nothing else..
L390[11:19:35] <gamax92> Yes, don't treat numbers as booleans in Lua, numbers always evaluate to true in Lua
L391[11:20:00] <Dasm> So yes/no ? or true/false?
L392[11:20:04] <gamax92> true/false
L393[11:21:02] <xandaros> I think only false and nil evaluate to false
L394[11:21:08] <Forecaster> #Lua if 0 == true then return "pies" end
L395[11:21:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L396[11:21:20] <Forecaster> #Lua if 0 == true then print("pies") end
L397[11:21:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L398[11:21:39] <Forecaster> #Lua if 0 == true then print("pies") else print("soup") end
L399[11:21:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > soup | nil
L400[11:21:48] <Dasm> I'm learning the LUAs!
L401[11:21:58] <Forecaster> that doesnt look like 0 == true
L402[11:22:05] <gamax92> !kickban Forecaster
L403[11:22:06] *** Forecaster was kicked by zsh ((gamax92) No reason given))
L404[11:22:09] <xandaros> It's not equal to true, but it is true
L405[11:22:15] <gamax92> Acting like a fucking troll
L406[11:22:29] <Forecaster> How?
L407[11:22:34] <xandaros> I actually think he was serious
L408[11:22:37] <SolraBizna> me too
L409[11:22:41] <xandaros> It is a bit confusing
L410[11:22:45] <SolraBizna> #Lua if 0 then print("pies") else print("soup") end
L411[11:22:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > pies | nil
L412[11:22:57] <xandaros> Exactly
L413[11:23:07] <Inari> gamax92: Petty, aint we? :P
L414[11:23:11] <Dasm> Sangar is teaching me things.. these tutorial videos are super useful
L415[11:23:24] <Mystia_Lorelei> do i see salt :^(
L416[11:23:26] <Mystia_Lorelei> :^)
L417[11:23:35] <gamax92> ._. agh I'm going back to bed sorry ...
L418[11:23:39] <Skye> gamax92, you literally banned anyone using Lizzy's bouncer.
L419[11:23:41] <Skye> * zsh sets ban on *!*@znc.theender.net
L420[11:23:46] <Inari> gg
L421[11:23:47] <gamax92> bleh
L422[11:23:50] <gamax92> !unban Forecaster
L423[11:23:50] *** zsh sets mode: -b *!*@znc.theender.net
L424[11:23:55] <gamax92> !kickban gamax92
L425[11:23:55] *** gamax92 was kicked by zsh ((gamax92) No reason given))
L426[11:24:00] <Mystia_Lorelei> ty
L427[11:24:02] <xandaros> Lol
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L429[11:24:38] <Skye> um...
L430[11:24:42] <xandaros> So Forecaster sees it as well
L431[11:24:43] <Skye> O_O
L432[11:24:46] <SolraBizna> do things like tall grass and reeds block arrows?
L433[11:24:46] <xandaros> #Lua if 0 then print("pies") else print("soup") end
L434[11:24:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > pies | nil
L435[11:24:49] <Vexatos> #lua if 0 then print("Forecaster!") end
L436[11:24:51] <SolraBizna> or is my code just rotten?
L437[11:24:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Forecaster! | nil
L438[11:24:58] <Skye> SolraBizna, no, IIRC
L439[11:25:17] <SolraBizna> how do the arrows know they can pass through? T_T
L440[11:25:19] <Inari> SolraBizna: Fujoshi code/
L441[11:25:19] <Forecaster> but what does == do then
L442[11:25:25] <Inari> Forecaster: compare
L443[11:25:31] <SolraBizna> 0 is not equal to true because it has a different type
L444[11:25:35] <Forecaster> ah
L445[11:25:40] <Skye> Lizzy, uh... O_O
L446[11:25:41] <SolraBizna> conditions aren't booleans, they're "truth values"
L447[11:25:47] <SolraBizna> nil and false are the only false "truth values"
L448[11:26:06] <Michiyo> !unban gamax92
L449[11:26:07] *** zsh sets mode: -b *!*@2607:5300:60:9553::9090:1
L450[11:26:25] <Vexatos> Forecaster, boolean evaluation checks for "not false and not nil"
L451[11:26:32] <Forecaster> I see
L452[11:26:59] <Inari> #lua if not false and not nil then print("bleh!") end
L453[11:26:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > bleh! | nil
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L456[11:27:44] <xandaros> I often use and and or as a ternary operator. This is sometimes a bit confusing, but that's what you get for abusing things, I suppose
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L458[11:28:00] <SolraBizna> yeah, and isn't actually boolean and
L459[11:28:02] <SolraBizna> it just acts like one
L460[11:28:12] <gamax92> ... lol what?
L461[11:28:31] <SolraBizna> #Lua print("Cookies" and "Cream")
L462[11:28:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Cream | nil
L463[11:28:32] <Forecaster> oh, I must have missed the "run" button when testing that...
L464[11:28:46] <gamax92> SolraBizna: yes, that's what it should do
L465[11:28:55] <SolraBizna> it behaves in a way that if you use it on truth values and you use the result as a truth value you get boolean AND
L466[11:29:02] <Forecaster> it looked like it kept printing the other output that I expected
L467[11:29:19] <Forecaster> that confused me
L468[11:29:28] <gamax92> SolraBizna: exactly, so, how is it not working properly?
L469[11:29:35] <SolraBizna> I didn't say it wasn't working properly
L470[11:30:02] <SolraBizna> I was just saying that it behaves in a more complicated way than how someone used to other languages might expect
L471[11:30:11] <Forecaster> also yay for banning people instead of teaching things
L472[11:30:16] <Forecaster> good job
L473[11:30:46] <gamax92> yes I know, I apologize Forecaster.
L474[11:31:02] <Forecaster> apology accepted
L475[11:31:35] *** Mine|dreamland is now known as minecreatr
L476[11:33:09] <Vexatos> gamax92 is grumpy92 today :>
L477[11:34:21] <gamax92> yes :(
L478[11:38:15] <gamax92> LuaJ is being a piece of garbage again, if I manually go through the levels with debug.getinfo, I can see all of the individual stacktrace parts are there
L479[11:38:27] <gamax92> but then debug.traceback gives nothing useful
L480[11:40:29] <Lizzy> welp, my mother isn't getting virgin internet anymore
L481[11:40:47] <Lizzy> cause apparrently there's no line down the road for it
L482[11:41:06] <Skye> Lizzy, I hope that she doesn't use virgin media email
L483[11:41:08] <Lizzy> why they couldn't have scouted that out before today i don't know
L484[11:41:19] <Skye> because it stops existing after you stop being a customer
L485[11:41:32] <Lizzy> Skye, well she wont because we're nolonger getting virgin broadband
L486[11:41:40] <Lizzy> plus she has a gmail account anyway
L487[11:41:44] <Skye> good
L488[11:41:55] <Skye> I'm trying to get my dad to switch but he won't at all
L489[11:42:05] <Lizzy> sucks to be him
L490[11:42:15] <Skye> and he's so worried about his email, too
L491[11:42:21] <Skye> yet he uses the worst client
L492[11:42:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: (new ReflectionToStringBuilder(thing)).toString() is amazing
L493[11:42:53] <Lizzy> also is that just for virginmedia.com emails? cause my old virgin.net email that i made back in like, 2005 on a dialup connection still works
L494[11:43:04] <Lizzy> it has a fuck tonne of spam in it but still works
L495[11:43:10] <Inari> So
L496[11:43:18] <Inari> does virginmedia block porn or promote it
L497[11:43:28] <Skye> Lizzy, ntlworld.com
L498[11:43:30] <gamax92> it is an odd naming choice yes
L499[11:43:39] <Skye> it's a brandname
L500[11:43:47] <gamax92> Yes but, doesn't make it any less odd
L501[11:43:55] <Skye> virgin records was the start of it all, IIRC
L502[11:44:06] <Skye> the owner is a rich businessman who bought a lot of businesses
L503[11:44:30] <Inari> at least pen island goes with their name choice
L504[11:44:37] <Lizzy> Inari, depends if you have the parental stuff turned on. my dad has all the parental blocks turned off since we don't need it there
L505[11:44:49] <Vexatos> gamax92, pls
L506[11:44:52] <Inari> Lizzy: You still have to register for porn
L507[11:45:03] <Lizzy> ?
L508[11:45:07] <Inari> UK law stuff
L509[11:45:13] <Lizzy> what?
L510[11:46:34] <Inari> http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/technology/uk-parliament-passes-digital-economy-bill-forcing-people-to-register-if-they-want-to-watch-porn-and-banning-many-sex-acts-35254266.html
L511[11:46:50] <Skye> the funny thing is that it won't work, people'd get VPNs anyway
L512[11:47:00] <Lizzy> ^
L513[11:47:13] <gamax92> Vexatos: case 't': ar.istailcall = false;
L514[11:47:42] <Inari> Skye: I think you overestimate people
L515[11:48:14] <Skye> Inari, I think you underestimate marketing
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L517[11:50:54] <gamax92> oh, the serialization library does not load on LuaJ apparently.
L518[11:53:20] <gamax92> huh, the serialization library isn't available in the Lua shell right away, which I guess makes sense but could atleast offer it to me
L519[11:55:46] <Michiyo> https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/OCNicks Linking this here again, incase anyone wants to spot any nicks I've missed in my linking efforts
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L521[11:56:49] <gamax92> Michiyo: where is gamax92 = garbage?
L522[11:56:58] <Michiyo> Doesn't exist.
L523[11:57:02] <gamax92> oh
L524[11:57:03] <gamax92> okay
L525[11:57:07] <Michiyo> Only factual links go there.
L526[11:57:08] <Michiyo> thanks
L527[11:58:44] <Michiyo> MOTHER FUCKING SHIT
L528[11:58:57] <Michiyo> I pushed an order through Friday cause someone needed something this week...
L529[11:59:15] <Michiyo> This morning I get an email, some stuff I've been waiting WEEKS to come in stock.. just came in stock
L530[11:59:22] <Michiyo> and I can't order it cause.. just ordered
L531[11:59:29] <Forecaster> :/
L532[12:00:25] <Michiyo> Off to lunch
L533[12:00:28] <Michiyo> grumble grumble
L534[12:00:36] <Inari> guri guri
L535[12:01:36] <gamax92> gore gore
L536[12:02:59] <Forecaster> oh right, gotta update idea here too. dammit
L537[12:04:08] <gamax92> Inari: one letter from a horror story :D
L538[12:05:04] <Inari> gamax92: ?
L539[12:08:46] <Temia> moo.
L540[12:08:52] <gamax92> Hey Temia
L541[12:09:03] <Temia> hey.
L542[12:09:14] <Skye> Temia, so the 68k might work
L543[12:09:25] <SolraBizna> vifino: did it work?
L544[12:09:34] <SolraBizna> Skye: not fake?
L545[12:09:40] <Skye> not fake
L546[12:09:43] <Skye> but flickrery
L547[12:09:56] <SolraBizna> does it have a decoupling cap?
L548[12:09:59] <Skye> no
L549[12:10:08] <SolraBizna> I'd guess that's why
L550[12:10:18] <Skye> what'd be a good value to use?
L551[12:10:53] <SolraBizna> "A good rule of thumb for digital circuits is to use a single 100nF ceramic capacitor for each logic integrated circuit, as well as a single larger (up to a few hundred µF) electrolytic capacitor per board or circuit segment."
L552[12:11:59] <Wuerfel_21> I remember using a diffrent value in my to-be-finished SBC design.
L553[12:12:40] <SolraBizna> My electronics knowledge is limited, and strictly in the DC domain... and decoupling caps are a very AC problem
L554[12:13:18] <vifino> SolraBizna: i did not test it yet, sorry. kinda busy.
L555[12:13:21] <Skye> is just putting any capatitor there okay?
L556[12:13:44] <SolraBizna> I think if it's a big electrolytic capacitor it will respond too slowly
L557[12:13:54] <SolraBizna> vifino: that's fine
L558[12:13:57] <Wuerfel_21> wait, 0.1uF == 100nF?
L559[12:14:04] * SolraBizna nods
L560[12:14:19] <Wuerfel_21> phew.
L561[12:14:51] <Wuerfel_21> still gotta figure out how to properly drive the SD card access indicator LED.
L562[12:17:24] <Inari> SolraBizna: You want them in your DC things too though
L563[12:17:38] <SolraBizna> only to stop the evil AC from leaking into my nice, careful DC world
L564[12:17:56] <Inari> Lo
L565[12:18:01] <Inari> * :p
L566[12:18:43] <xandaros> bridge rectifier + caps?
L567[12:19:42] <Inari> fuuuuullll bridge rectifier
L568[12:20:01] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI5Ftm1-jik best thing
L569[12:20:01] <MichiBot> Making a Full Bridge Rectifier | length: 4m 15s | Likes: 25,887 Dislikes: 388 Views: 1,843,598 | by ElectroBOOM | Published On 5/3/2015
L570[12:24:35] <Caitlyn> Holy fuck this guy is insane
L571[12:25:06] <xandaros> I was thinking about adding an inductor. Looks like that's actually a good idea, then
L572[12:25:23] <xandaros> Some discharge resistors wouldn't hurt, though...
L573[12:26:18] <xandaros> He also desperately needs some power resistors as dummy load...
L574[12:26:20] <gamax92> meh, LuaJ can go back on the shelf for now
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L576[12:28:42] <SolraBizna> "As you can clearly see, I have no regard for safety. Don't be like that."
L577[12:30:16] <SolraBizna> This is my new favorite video.
L578[12:31:13] <Skye> SolraBizna, I have a 4.7uF capatitor, will that help?
L579[12:31:22] <SolraBizna> Worth a try
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L581[12:32:54] <gamax92> there's this mtSystems C to Java thingy
L582[12:33:24] <gamax92> it actually works
L583[12:33:59] <Wuerfel_21> gamax92, function pointer arithmetic?
L584[12:34:43] <gamax92> it limits you to 1111 characters sadly in the demo but I did use it to get a working speech synthesizer from some goto and pointer heavy C file
L585[12:35:45] <Wuerfel_21> this is awesome
L586[12:36:07] <Wuerfel_21> printf("%X",&printf); turns into System.out.printf("%X", (int)dataAddress((MethodRef2<Integer, String8, Object[]>)Stdio::printf));
L587[12:36:41] <gamax92> working != looks good :P
L588[12:38:59] <Wuerfel_21> it doesnt do "long long"
L589[12:39:48] <Wuerfel_21> but it does "long double"
L590[12:40:54] <gamax92> I also saw something like NestedVM, haven't tried that out yet
L591[12:44:12] <payonel> Inari: o/ !!!
L592[12:44:25] <payonel> loved all your pings, btw :)
L593[12:45:06] <gamax92> hey payonel :D
L594[12:45:10] <payonel> gamax92: HELLO
L595[12:45:12] <Inari> payonel: hehe
L596[12:46:06] <payonel> i've been playing a 1.10 pack i put together
L597[12:46:20] <payonel> has tconstruct 2 in it
L598[12:46:58] <Inari> Theres a v2?
L599[12:47:33] <payonel> i guess they don't call it v2, but this one TConstruct-1.10.2-2.5.6b.jar
L600[12:47:38] <payonel> it is different though
L601[12:47:44] <payonel> new tank and furnace
L602[12:47:49] <payonel> new book
L603[12:47:50] <gamax92> payonel: HELLO FELLOW HUMAN
L604[12:48:03] <payonel> gamax92: are you a bot today?:)
L605[12:48:11] <gamax92> totally not robots
L606[12:50:38] <Wuerfel_21> OC robots have one fatal flaw.
L607[12:50:54] <Inari> payonel: Ah, yeah
L608[12:51:04] <Inari> I just recall diyo complainig baout many things that changed haha
L609[12:51:33] <Wuerfel_21> they dont do the robot dance. *noone laughs, Wuerfel_21 cries in a corner*
L610[12:51:46] <payonel> Inari: at FIRST that was my feeling, but then i realized i love tc and after all this time if they found things that could be improved or workflows that could be expanded, it is worthy of consideration
L611[12:52:19] <payonel> in my world i am currently trying to make obsidian-sans-diamond-pick using tc with lava+water
L612[12:52:38] <payonel> they reduced the ratio for the "craft", it's like 2:1 lava:obsidian now :(
L613[12:54:30] <gamax92> oh, NestedVM generates .class files not .java files
L614[12:56:22] <payonel> Inari: btw, that last one [ http://i.imgur.com/4G3kspa.gif ] is pretty freaking awesome
L615[12:56:36] <Inari> It is, cat got skills
L616[12:56:48] <Inari> Probably from catching tons of birds mid flight
L617[12:57:12] <gamax92> oh ... I'm wondering if this is just a MIPS emulator in Java with embedded binary
L618[13:02:22] <gamax92> oh well it's building now
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L621[13:13:52] <Michiyo> Ended up with one radial and one axial mount cap..
L622[13:13:59] <Michiyo> tonight I get to replace them and hope it works
L623[13:15:02] * Michiyo flips table
L624[13:15:05] <Michiyo> %flip
L625[13:15:05] <MichiBot> Michiyo: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L626[13:15:16] <Michiyo> WHY ARE E OUT OF SO MUCH SHIT IN OUR WAREHOUSES
L627[13:15:31] <Michiyo> s/ E / WE /
L628[13:15:31] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> WHY ARE WE OUT OF SO MUCH SHIT IN OUR WAREHOUSES
L629[13:15:44] <gamax92> black friday?
L630[13:16:14] <Michiyo> No, I REALLY doubt we're out of 470 uF caps cause of black friday
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L632[13:21:24] <Mettaton_Fab> i have some 470 uf caps.
L633[13:21:32] <Mettaton_Fab> different voltages.
L634[13:21:53] <Wuerfel_21> capacitors, especially 470uF ones, are popular gifts these days. I mean, the children have to be educated about how to build the future of [Insert any Country here]!
L635[13:22:07] <Wuerfel_21> And als
L636[13:22:14] * Wuerfel_21 derped
L637[13:23:18] <Wuerfel_21> Also, we have to fuel them up with hydrogen and cook them at high temperatures to create the "future small child star"!
L638[13:23:45] <gamax92> o.o
L639[13:24:18] * Temia coughs.
L640[13:24:25] <gamax92> Temia: :<
L641[13:24:52] <Wuerfel_21> This is the only way to deride our civilization of joy and carelessness, in order to make it vulnerable for takeover by our allmighty robot overlords.
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L643[13:25:24] * Temia spirits Gamax away from all of this silliness.
L644[13:26:57] <Michiyo> LCD Board takes 2 470s @ 25v, I have exactly 2 470's at 35v, one radial one axial, and RS has exactly 0
L645[13:26:58] <Michiyo> :/
L646[13:27:28] <Wuerfel_21> Michiyo, capacitor voltage is a maximum, IIRC
L647[13:27:37] <Michiyo> yep
L648[13:27:44] <Michiyo> so the 35s are fine
L649[13:28:08] <Michiyo> I used 35s in place of 25s in Naomi's V7 LCD last year (That's what got me hired here.. lol)
L650[13:28:44] <Wuerfel_21> Anyways, the show must go on! ... ... They will then proceed to breed us with cute cats and sell the resulting hybrids as lewd slaves to perveted 'lluminati aliens! It's them all along!
L651[13:29:33] <Wuerfel_21> s/It's them/They were behind it
L652[13:29:33] <MichiBot> <Wuerfel_21> Anyways, the show must go on! ... ... They will then proceed to breed us with cute cats and sell the resulting hybrids as lewd slaves to perveted 'lluminati aliens! They were behind it all along!
L653[13:30:09] <Temia> .
L654[13:30:32] * Temia sighs and fires a tranq dart at Wuerfel
L655[13:31:00] <Temia> That's enough with your fnord silliness.
L656[13:31:09] * Wuerfel_21 falls to the ground, giggling
L657[13:31:55] <Temia> Let's not say things that'll get Inari's hopes up
L658[13:32:24] <Mettaton_Fab> we need real catgirls!
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L660[13:34:03] <Wuerfel_21> Mettaton_Fab, is MorePlayerModels + Minecrift real enough? :P
L661[13:34:18] <Mettaton_Fab> not real enough.
L662[13:34:45] <Mettaton_Fab> should i buy a core2quad pc for 150€ or not?
L663[13:35:14] <gamax92> depends on what you want it for
L664[13:35:45] <Wuerfel_21> Mettaton_Fab, no, never buy anything other than 5+ Jears old THinkpads, OR OUR FREEDOM(TM) WILL DIE IN PROPRIETARY HELL!!!!
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L667[13:35:56] <Wuerfel_21> s/Jears/Years
L668[13:35:56] <MichiBot> <Wuerfel_21> Mettaton_Fab, no, never buy anything other than 5+ Years old THinkpads, OR OUR FREEDOM(TM) WILL DIE IN PROPRIETARY HELL!!!!
L669[13:36:59] <Mettaton_Fab> i want it for playing mc and terraria.+
L670[13:37:08] <Mettaton_Fab> maybe more.
L671[13:37:37] * SolraBizna hides his 7-year-old Thinkpad
L672[13:38:08] <SolraBizna> I didn't get it for libre reasons, though, I got it because its case isn't made of case-hardened tissue paper
L673[13:38:25] <SolraBizna> ...and because the backlight on my 16-year-old PowerBook was separating from the screen...
L674[13:39:41] * Mettaton_Fab wants LGA775 PC for playing MC and Terraria.
L675[13:39:49] <Skye> SolraBizna, I have a thinkpad x220
L676[13:39:54] <Skye> the last good thinkpad. :P
L677[13:45:26] <SolraBizna> I have a T60p
L678[13:45:35] <SolraBizna> the last model to be 4:3 and one of the first to be IPS
L679[13:45:38] <SolraBizna> (score!)
L680[13:48:04] <gamax92> Mettaton_Fab: why that specifically :P
L681[13:48:32] <Mettaton_Fab> because i have a CPU cooler for that?
L682[13:50:56] <Mettaton_Fab> also, because i have cpus for that.
L683[13:54:03] <Mettaton_Fab> and mainly because i like LGA775 cpus.
L684[13:56:54] <gamax92> I like 486 cpus but I wouldn't use one to play MC ot terraria
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L686[13:57:32] <Mettaton_Fab> i can put one of my Q6600 into my mobo!
L687[13:59:21] <Mettaton_Fab> finally i can put a core2quad to use!
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L691[14:07:06] <gamax92> "org.ibex.nestedvm.Runtime$ExecutionException: Jumped to invalid address in trampoline (r2: -1 pc: -559038737) at (unknown)"
L692[14:07:11] <gamax92> well so much for that
L693[14:09:11] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey: poke
L694[14:11:21] <g> I've been seeing trampolines more in code recently
L695[14:11:28] <g> I still dunno what they're actually for though
L696[14:12:22] <gamax92> g: but this is a weird MIPS + newlib(?) to JVM translator
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L698[14:20:23] <gamax92> I decided to try it out on that speech synthesizer I ported with the mtSystems one, gave another exception and failed
L699[14:21:41] <Michiyo> trampolines are used for jumping.. :P
L700[14:21:57] <gamax92> !
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L702[14:22:04] <gamax92> Michiyo is smart
L703[14:24:10] <Metalhead33> I ocne was recommended trampoline for some mental problem in my early childhood.
L704[14:24:16] <Metalhead33> Not sure why, honestly.
L705[14:24:34] <Metalhead33> Apparently because I was hyperactive and/or had a low attention span?
L706[14:27:04] <Mettaton_Fab> processor works!
L707[14:27:12] <gamax92> How fast
L708[14:27:32] <Mettaton_Fab> 2.70GHz
L709[14:27:40] <gamax92> lol slow
L710[14:27:59] <Mettaton_Fab> changed the fsb speed to 300MHz instead of 266MHz
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L712[14:28:17] <gamax92> What's that put it to then?
L713[14:28:38] <gamax92> And was it bios or bcel mod
L714[14:29:24] <gamax92> also: board chipset?
L715[14:29:35] <Mettaton_Fab> some old intel one.
L716[14:29:50] <gamax92> They are all old Intel ones :P
L717[14:29:53] <Mettaton_Fab> ASRock 775G65I is the mobo
L718[14:30:55] <Michiyo> https://twitter.com/SangarWasTaken/status/805866016911880192
L719[14:30:56] <MichiBot> Mon Dec 05 14:06:45 CST 2016 @SangarWasTaken: Welp. Raycasting in OC has been discussed since... quite early. This is the first actual implementation I've seen https://t.co/L5VldB1at5
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L721[14:31:14] <Mettaton_Fab> wanna have a pic of my machine?
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L723[14:31:21] <Mettaton_Fab> or the specs?
L724[14:31:39] <Mettaton_Fab> it might run Quake 3 Arena
L725[14:32:12] <gamax92> 865G chipset ... wow
L726[14:32:57] <Mettaton_Fab> i want a better mobo with more SATA
L727[14:33:18] <Mettaton_Fab> also, i will need the IDE connector for my 2 IDE HDDs.
L728[14:36:40] <Temia> Hmm. Could definitely stand to be optimised.
L729[14:37:39] <gamax92> yeah it looks quite a bit slow
L730[14:38:08] <Mettaton_Fab> it stops POSTing correctly.
L731[14:38:15] <Mettaton_Fab> i think i fucked up.
L732[14:39:15] <payonel> MichiBot: re raytracing vid -- that guy talks super fast in russian
L733[14:39:21] <payonel> it's...amazing to hear it like that
L734[14:39:36] <gamax92> I know 0% Russian
L735[14:39:42] <payonel> also, very impressive framerate
L736[14:39:58] <Temia> Not really.
L737[14:40:15] <payonel> :)
L738[14:40:44] <Temia> Keep in mind there's nothing else actually going on in the game yet.
L739[14:40:59] <gamax92> MineOS likes to use their slow buffering library
L740[14:41:15] <gamax92> #lua 160*3
L741[14:41:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 480
L742[14:43:19] <payonel> Temia: i've not seen better
L743[14:48:01] <Inari> OC in general won't hadn you anything that could be called a good framerate
L744[14:48:18] <Temia> Unless there have been some reversions, the tier 3 GPU direct call limit is high enough to achieve faster speeds than that. Utilising VRAM would allow fast copying of the weapon graphics for a small resolution hit. Gamax has pulled off some impressive raycasting speeds in Pico-8 as well, so algorithmic bottlenecks are likely to be overcome as well.
L745[14:48:58] <Temia> 20fps was still enough for games like Star Fox.
L746[14:49:26] <Inari> Yeah 20fps, while staying in side the call limits, while still responsively polling for input events (which OC is terrible at I might add) :P
L747[14:49:31] <Inari> I guess if you're masochistic
L748[14:49:48] <gamax92> Actually that was quad based not raytracing Temia
L749[14:50:36] <Temia> Are we talking about the same thing?
L750[14:50:45] <gamax92> My pico-8 demo
L751[14:52:32] <Temia> Hang on, let me dig the cart up again.
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L753[14:55:13] <gamax92> Each wall has a point in 3d space, translated and rotated, sorted by Z, converted into 2d space, clipped, and drawn using a wall renderer
L754[14:55:38] <Temia> I swear I had it.
L755[14:56:16] <Temia> We're both talking about the demo that looked like a heatmap though, right?
L756[14:56:23] <gamax92> yeah
L757[14:56:28] <Temia> Huh, alright.
L758[14:56:43] <Mettaton_Fab> pc is booting from openSuSE DVD
L759[14:56:47] <Metalhead33> Did someone talk about gaming on Open Computers?
L760[14:56:48] <OneM_Industries> So, just curious. I was reading this issue: https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/Reika_Mods_Issues/issues/1236 and they are talking about component limits. What are they and why are they important?
L761[14:57:34] <Vexatos> you can only do so many calls to external components in a tick
L762[14:57:40] <Vexatos> before the computer waits for the next tick
L763[14:57:49] <Temia> Vex, this is regarding the hard limit, actually
L764[14:57:53] <Vexatos> oh
L765[14:57:55] <Vexatos> ah
L766[14:57:57] <Vexatos> well about the same
L767[14:58:07] <Vexatos> the entire network is re-evaluated every block update
L768[14:58:11] <Temia> And regarding that, CPUs can only accept a limited number of components before blue-screening. Servers can mitigate this with component buses, but only so much
L769[14:58:15] <Vexatos> close to the network
L770[14:58:22] <Vexatos> yea
L771[14:58:23] <OneM_Industries> Oh, ok.
L772[14:58:33] <Vexatos> and re-calculating the network is rather expensive
L773[14:58:39] <Kodos> With default settings, a maxed out T3 server can have 64 components
L774[14:58:40] <Vexatos> not VERY expensive
L775[14:58:51] <Kodos> =D Thanks Caitlyn!
L776[14:58:56] <Vexatos> but you don't want to do it every tick, and you don't want to get the networks to become indefinitely large
L777[14:59:47] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I can see that getting slow fast.
L778[15:00:28] <Inari> Catlyn
L779[15:00:34] <gamax92> Vexatos: I wish the network system or cables atleast allowed blocks to be connected via cables but not act as a cable
L780[15:01:19] <Vexatos> that is easy to do
L781[15:01:22] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, reading the issue with this info, that would solve the problem.
L782[15:01:28] <Vexatos> DragonAPI actually has a config option for that
L783[15:01:30] <gamax92> If you set Reika's blocks to Neighbor then it stops connecting everything to everything but now blocks have to touch the case
L784[15:01:33] <Vexatos> but it is off by default
L785[15:01:47] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
L786[15:01:52] <Vexatos> basically, you can make all blocks act as a node but not a component
L787[15:01:56] <Vexatos> When you create it
L788[15:02:09] <Vexatos> Network.newNode(...).withComponent(...) for a component
L789[15:02:13] <gamax92> Oh?
L790[15:02:15] <Vexatos> Network.newNode(...) for just the node
L791[15:02:32] <Vexatos> and instead, place an adapter next to the very block you want to interface
L792[15:02:37] <Vexatos> so the components are actually drivers
L793[15:02:41] <Vexatos> while the block still transmits the network
L794[15:02:49] <Vexatos> was my solution
L795[15:02:50] <Metalhead33> Ultra-theoretical question: How should one go forward and implement a wired Internet with OpenComputers? (as in, via connecting computers together, and probably to some central network)
L796[15:03:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: that sounds good
L797[15:03:08] <Vexatos> it's still off by default because #1851 hasn't been merged yet
L798[15:03:14] <Vexatos> and it won't be default any time after that
L799[15:03:34] <Vexatos> because reika argues that it will take about half a year at least for people to update OC to that version
L800[15:04:02] <Vexatos> Metalhead33, just like real internet
L801[15:04:06] <Vexatos> you can use microcontrollers as routers
L802[15:04:15] <Vexatos> as you can mass-produce those
L803[15:04:17] <OneM_Industries> People are *really* slow to update.
L804[15:05:11] <Mettaton_Fab> now it boots openSuSE
L805[15:05:30] <OneM_Industries> Case in point: The server I'm playing on is still using ancient versions of everything, to the point that some of the update checkers have given up bugging us about new versions. >.<
L806[15:06:06] <Metalhead33> The oldest still-running server of Minecraft was updated after it was popularized by two people on Youtube.
L807[15:06:19] <Metalhead33> Then a group of people known as the "veterans" got really salty and a war started.
L808[15:06:20] <Temia> Counterpoint: They're probably using really ancient versions of the mod with the update to unbreak shit too.
L809[15:06:23] <gamax92> One sample does not represent anything
L810[15:06:48] <OneM_Industries> Eehh...It's about par for the course with what I've seen.
L811[15:07:13] <gamax92> I use OC and OCEmu so therefore everyone who has OC also uses OCEmu: one sample
L812[15:07:33] <OneM_Industries> 2-3 month lag time between release and update is usual in my experience.
L813[15:07:33] <Temia> Usually, updates have to be performed universally, or else a lot of them simply break due to API differences. There is no unilateral "update one mod and keep another half a year behind" strategy.
L814[15:07:47] <OneM_Industries> ^
L815[15:09:10] <gamax92> hey Temia :>
L816[15:09:19] <Temia> Moo~
L817[15:09:20] <gamax92> you should update ocemu and then set emulator.fast = false :>
L818[15:09:59] <Temia> Maybe later~ I've got a shower to get in before my counseling appointment.
L819[15:10:01] <OneM_Industries> Thus the server I'm playing on. A) they are going to just move on to a new version of MC entirely soon(TM) b) updating would mean figuring out how to get all the mods to play nice on an existing world, which would be...no small task, considering how large of a pack it is, and how sporadically some of them update.
L820[15:11:31] <scj643> Found the solution to my mobile gpu tearing
L821[15:11:38] <scj643> Anyone want to guess what it is
L822[15:11:54] <gamax92> scj643: a compositing manager?
L823[15:12:04] <scj643> Windows 7
L824[15:12:05] <gamax92> magnents
L825[15:12:07] <gamax92> ?
L826[15:12:15] <gamax92> did you have XP or Vista or something?
L827[15:12:19] <scj643> It's diagonal tearing on my dedicated card
L828[15:12:26] <scj643> gamax92: nope I had 10
L829[15:12:40] <scj643> It's a mobile gpu issue
L830[15:12:45] <gamax92> ahh alright
L831[15:12:51] <scj643> Though doesn't happen in 7 go figure
L832[15:12:58] <scj643> So I'm now dual booting
L833[15:13:09] <scj643> But this is great
L834[15:13:41] <scj643> I got it set so windows 7 and 10 share the documents folder
L835[15:13:51] <scj643> Just waiting for 7 to update
L836[15:13:58] <gamax92> 10 works good for me, don't believe I have tearing, but seen a few games update to vulkan and dx12 and performance is wheeeeeee~
L837[15:14:23] <Vexatos> leeeeenooox
L838[15:16:01] <scj643> gamax92: it's a diagonal tear only specific to mobile GPUs and games not running in exclusive mode
L839[15:16:13] <scj643> Like Minecraft
L840[15:16:36] <gamax92> Vexatos: what gpu do you have
L841[15:16:54] <scj643> Well I got a 960m
L842[15:17:03] <scj643> 4gb
L843[15:17:07] <gamax92> thou are not Vexatos
L844[15:17:17] * scj643 shrugs
L845[15:17:20] <Vexatos> GTX 750 Ti
L846[15:17:31] <Vexatos> :>
L847[15:17:41] <scj643> Windows updates are slow
L848[15:17:55] <scj643> Probably doesn't help that 7 is at the end of my HDD
L849[15:17:57] <gamax92> scj643: is this a fresh win7 install?
L850[15:18:01] <scj643> Yeah
L851[15:18:28] <scj643> I don't dare try to install it to my SSD due to the windows 10 bootloader
L852[15:18:36] <gamax92> scj643: it's worth it to just download that one rollup and install that first
L853[15:18:41] <gamax92> also http://wu.krelay.de/en/ worked for me
L854[15:19:31] <scj643> I might want to install 7 to my HDD
L855[15:19:36] <scj643> SSD
L856[15:20:22] <scj643> Would I notice it?
L857[15:20:36] <Temia> Yes.
L858[15:20:37] <gamax92> Yes
L859[15:20:41] <scj643> Ok
L860[15:20:43] <scj643> Eel
L861[15:20:44] <gamax92> HDD -> SDD is always yes
L862[15:21:04] <Metalhead33> Ugh.... if only I could install OcEmu without having to install Lua5.2 on my system. Gentoo really doesn't want me to have both Lua 5.1 and 5.2.
L863[15:21:28] <gamax92> lol? I can have 5.1 5.2 5.3 luajit and ljx all installed at the same time on both ubuntu and arch
L864[15:21:58] <Metalhead33> guess I'll just have to build it from the source, and show the middle finger to Portage
L865[15:22:52] <gamax92> scj643: but yeah theres the big rollup that is everything since SP1 up to April, then some July rollup, a few Windows Update related things, and then updates only take a few minutes to check and there'll probably only be like 100 or so
L866[15:23:23] <scj643> I got those
L867[15:23:26] <Forecaster> http://what-if.xkcd.com/153/
L868[15:23:26] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Cryptography Posted on: 9/6/2006
L869[15:23:37] <Forecaster> that is not a comic xD
L870[15:23:48] <Forecaster> MichiBot you are wrong
L871[15:24:28] <scj643> Got to find my windows 10 install USB so I can fix the bootloader
L872[15:24:28] <Metalhead33> Hope I didn1t break the system by installing Lua 5.2 from the source.
L873[15:25:06] <Wuerfel_21> *kernel panic*
L874[15:25:40] <Michiyo> Forecaster, then please, fix the regex, I hate regex, I suck at regex.
L875[15:25:41] <Metalhead33> Well, all the stuff that depended on Lua is still functioning as intended. VLC, that is.
L876[15:25:42] <Michiyo> :D
L877[15:26:03] <Forecaster> give me the current string?
L878[15:26:11] <Michiyo> https://git.io/v14HP
L879[15:26:15] <Michiyo> it's in there somewhere :P
L880[15:26:36] * Forecaster ctrl + f's 'xkcd'
L881[15:26:49] <Michiyo> line 96
L882[15:26:54] <Michiyo> Forecaster, ^
L883[15:27:04] <Forecaster> found it already :>
L884[15:27:41] <gamax92> Metalhead33: is this any Gentoo derivative or just straight up Gentoo Linux? (gonna set up a vm)
L885[15:28:16] <Metalhead33> Gentoo Linux.
L886[15:30:11] <gamax92> my upload speed has been cut by 1/4
L887[15:30:47] <Michiyo> yay 3:30, UPS right on time..
L888[15:31:02] <Forecaster> Michiyo: got it matching xkcd.com/<number> with or without 'http://' or 'www', but not anything else
L889[15:31:14] <Forecaster> want the string, or should I pullreq it?
L890[15:31:19] <Michiyo> either way
L891[15:33:51] <Forecaster> there
L892[15:33:56] <Forecaster> :>
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L894[15:34:26] <Michiyo> %flip jenkins
L895[15:34:26] <MichiBot> Michiyo: (╯°□°）╯suıʞuǝɾ
L896[15:34:40] <scj643> Waiting for windows 10 iso to down also
L897[15:34:43] <scj643> Download
L898[15:35:04] <Michiyo> Hmmm
L899[15:35:10] <scj643> Need it so I can fix the windows bootloader after install
L900[15:35:16] <Metalhead33> Wait a minute...
L901[15:35:20] <Michiyo> Why is the reverse proxy to jenkins 502ing
L902[15:35:23] <Metalhead33> Michiyo... aren't you the creator of the OpenRadio?
L903[15:35:27] <Michiyo> and why do I get customers when shit breaks
L904[15:35:34] <Michiyo> No, OpenFM, OpenRadio is XDjackieXD
L905[15:35:48] <Metalhead33> oh sorry, I confused it xD
L906[15:35:51] <Metalhead33> but yes, OpenFM
L907[15:36:09] <Metalhead33> I once tried to play TouhouFM on it, because I knew the path to the ogg stream of the radio.
L908[15:36:43] <Metalhead33> But because the admin has the double-thing (where the radio plays an intro for listeners for then, then gives the actual stream), when I tried to play the stream on OpenFM, it played the intro and then closed the stream.
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L910[15:37:11] <Metalhead33> so I worked around it by following Vexatos's instructions and starting my own local substream... and tuning onto that in OpenFM.
L911[15:40:56] <gamax92> well, 1/2 actually
L912[15:43:16] <scj643> 64 gb for windows 7 sound like enough (apps will go on a second HDD)
L913[15:43:56] <SolraBizna> Yes actually
L914[15:44:55] <Wuerfel_21> yes. https://stallman.org/saint.html
L915[15:46:48] <gamax92> payonel: ?
L916[15:46:56] <Wuerfel_21> this is what happens when you are very full of yourself.
L917[15:48:00] <SolraBizna> "Warning: taking the Church of Emacs (or any church) too seriously may be hazardous to your health."
L918[15:50:54] <Forecaster> but scientology has my best interests in mind!
L919[15:54:18] <CompanionCube> Wuerfel_21: how is that relevant exactly
L920[15:55:41] <Metalhead33> I have been windows-free for a loooong time.
L921[15:56:07] <gamax92> I'd like to be windows-free but overwatch
L922[15:56:14] <Wuerfel_21> CompanionCube, not at all to anything
L923[15:56:21] <SolraBizna> I've been Windows-free only for a few months
L924[15:56:31] <SolraBizna> for a long time, Evolve was the only thing keeping me on Windows
L925[15:56:36] <SolraBizna> then they ruined it
L926[15:56:41] <Forecaster> 99% windows all the time
L927[15:56:44] <Forecaster> :D
L928[15:56:53] <gamax92> also borderlands 1, but while that probably works on wine I don't care and just boot into windows to do that anyway
L929[15:59:13] <payonel> gamax92: ??
L930[15:59:27] <gamax92> payonel: I don't understand your comment on that issue
L931[15:59:36] <Michiyo> Metalhead33, yeah I'm not sure how to work around that on my end
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L933[16:00:21] <Forecaster> so what happened to jenkins then? :P
L934[16:00:44] <Michiyo> Forecaster, great question
L935[16:00:49] <Michiyo> if I ever figure it out I'll let you know
L936[16:00:50] <payonel> you give 3 possible outcomes 1. not string, 2. not online, and 3. true
L937[16:00:50] <gamax92> Michiyo: is it issues with 'frankenstein' streams?
L938[16:01:01] <payonel> i think the behavior should be 1. error, 2. nil, msg, 3. true
L939[16:01:10] <gamax92> yes, and that's also what I said
L940[16:01:11] <Michiyo> gamax92, streams that play a file intro then jump you to the actual stream
L941[16:01:33] <gamax92> right
L942[16:02:07] <gamax92> Michiyo: excuse my mpg123 terminology :P
L943[16:02:15] <Michiyo> lol
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L945[16:02:35] <Michiyo> OH EM EFF GEE UFW SHUT UP
L946[16:02:39] <Michiyo> why are you stuck on verbose
L947[16:03:02] <Michiyo> syslog is nothing but UFW spewing shit everywhere
L948[16:03:13] <Forecaster> ohmy
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L950[16:03:59] <payonel> gamax92: yeah i meant that i was supporting your point about backwards compat
L951[16:04:07] <Michiyo> "sudo ufw logging low" maybe I hope
L952[16:06:20] <payonel> there, ninja'd the comment :)
L953[16:07:22] <gamax92> I don't know why most streams handle that so poorly, instead of having a fully valid stream, they just play a file, the file says okay streams over, and then the decoder is fed a bunch of extra data and has to resync
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L955[16:13:06] <gamax92> marcin212: do you have a jenkins?
L956[16:13:14] * Michiyo stabs jenkins
L957[16:13:17] <Michiyo> QAW#O0thywas03yt'shga3t
L958[16:13:32] <gamax92> o.o
L959[16:14:00] <Forecaster> wont cooperate?
L960[16:14:22] <Michiyo> I try to start the war directly it says the port is in use.
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L962[16:14:32] <Michiyo> I try to connect to the part from lynx on the same machine and it says it cant connect
L963[16:14:35] <Forecaster> the war?
L964[16:14:40] <Michiyo> I check ps aux for jenkins and it's not running
L965[16:15:03] <Michiyo> yeah... jenkins is distributed as a .war, not a .jar
L966[16:15:08] <Forecaster> ah
L967[16:15:18] <Michiyo> some special difference I don't remember it
L968[16:15:32] <SolraBizna> run with javaw instead of java on Windows?
L969[16:15:34] <Forecaster> I'd forgotten that was a thing
L970[16:15:36] <Michiyo> gah how the fuck do I check what is listening on a port
L971[16:15:41] <Michiyo> SolraBizna, ha.. windows
L972[16:15:49] <Michiyo> That box is linux
L973[16:15:56] <SolraBizna> lsof--- *headexplodes*
L974[16:16:08] <SolraBizna> sorry, that happens any time I try to remember how to use lsof
L975[16:16:10] <gamax92> tulpn?
L976[16:16:14] <Forecaster> Michiyo: netstat?
L977[16:16:19] <Michiyo> THIS box is windows, Server, 2k12.. but only cause I need it to run hmail server
L978[16:16:31] <SolraBizna> netstat will tell what sockets are open, but not who has them open (IIRC)
L979[16:16:35] <Michiyo> yeah but there is a magical fucking incantation you have to call netstat with that only the sages know
L980[16:16:41] <Michiyo> and I think gamax is the sage
L981[16:16:51] <gamax92> I know it because it reminds me of tulip
L982[16:17:02] <gamax92> so, tulpn
L983[16:17:41] <Michiyo> NOTHING HAS 8085 OPEN GODS DAMN IT
L984[16:18:30] <gamax92> aww, marcin212 doesn't backport, I have to use MC1.10.2 if I want to see the new AR remote thingy added to open glasses
L985[16:19:01] <Michiyo> waaaait a second
L986[16:19:14] <Michiyo> when I run the war directly.....
L987[16:19:26] <Michiyo> I have to add the damn args myself
L988[16:19:26] *** Wuerfel_21 is now known as Away_21
L989[16:19:30] <Lizzy> lol
L990[16:20:57] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/sFqVs/bb2124dd73.txt
L991[16:20:58] <Michiyo> wut
L992[16:21:53] <Michiyo> Oh
L993[16:21:55] <Michiyo> typo
L994[16:22:59] <Michiyo> httpsPort vs httpPort
L995[16:23:20] <Kodos> netstat -ab | more
L996[16:23:36] <SolraBizna> netstat: invalid option -- 'b'
L997[16:24:30] <Forecaster> https://twitter.com/Kuwaddo/status/805831285671333889
L998[16:24:31] <MichiBot> Mon Dec 05 11:48:44 CST 2016 @Kuwaddo: japanese is... interesting https://t.co/LdDBkpvBh2
L999[16:26:36] <Michiyo> Ok...
L1000[16:26:42] <Michiyo> it starts fine when I run it directly
L1001[16:26:49] <Michiyo> (though ALLLLLL of my settings are lost)
L1002[16:26:57] <Michiyo> but service jenkins start doesn't work
L1003[16:27:18] <SolraBizna> whenever that happens to me it makes me want to make my own distro
L1004[16:27:19] <Forecaster> maybe it needs a reboot
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L1006[16:27:26] <SolraBizna> then I think about how many packages I'd have to manually keep up to date
L1007[16:27:29] <SolraBizna> then I go back to playing Minecraft
L1008[16:27:39] <Michiyo> Forecaster, I'm not rebooting Hekate :P
L1009[16:27:46] <gamax92> yes, I'll kill you
L1010[16:27:52] <Forecaster> :P
L1011[16:28:17] <gamax92> oh wait ... my important thing is not on hekate
L1012[16:28:22] <gamax92> nvm
L1013[16:30:42] <Michiyo> lol
L1014[16:30:55] * Michiyo reboots Athena every 26.4 minutes
L1015[16:32:28] <gamax92> :(
L1016[16:35:55] <gamax92> I can't even find the new remote thing in ocglasses
L1017[16:35:58] <gamax92> well fuck this
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L1020[16:39:56] <Michiyo> "Please wait while Jenkins is getting ready to work.."
L1021[16:39:59] <Michiyo> Fucking Huzzah!
L1022[16:40:05] <gamax92> :D!
L1023[16:40:30] <Michiyo> seems the latest jenkins update nuked my customizations to the init script
L1024[16:40:46] <Michiyo> and the logs were as unhelpful as ever
L1025[16:41:01] <Michiyo> just had to edit the fucking port in /etc/defaults/jenkins
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L1029[16:42:55] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L1030[16:43:04] <Michiyo> Forecaster, your change is in
L1031[16:43:16] <Michiyo> All of that... for a one line regex fix
L1032[16:43:16] <Forecaster> Woo
L1033[16:43:17] <Michiyo> lmfao
L1034[16:43:31] <Forecaster> :P
L1035[16:44:19] <Forecaster> xkcd.com/100
L1036[16:44:29] <Forecaster> Aw
L1037[16:46:52] <Forecaster> Well,I can't see if the bot's rejoined yet from here :P
L1038[16:47:02] <Michiyo> it has..
L1039[16:47:06] <Michiyo> %test
L1040[16:47:08] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L1041[16:47:25] <Michiyo> http://xkcd.com/100
L1042[16:47:25] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Family Circus Posted on: 5/10/2006
L1043[16:47:34] <Michiyo> https://xkcd.com/100
L1044[16:47:34] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Family Circus Posted on: 5/10/2006
L1045[16:47:39] <Michiyo> yeah still needs the http(s)
L1046[16:47:43] <gamax92> ~test
L1047[16:47:44] <ocdoc> no thank you
L1048[16:48:06] <Michiyo> lol
L1049[16:48:15] <Forecaster> Oh,I didn't do https in mine I don't think
L1050[16:48:42] <gamax92> http://what-if.xkcd.com/153/
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L1053[16:50:26] <Michiyo> well, it still matches http(s) so that's ok
L1054[16:51:11] <S3> itsa snowin!
L1055[16:51:19] <S3> I wonder though
L1056[16:51:29] <Michiyo> I want snow
L1057[16:51:35] <S3> find a nearby place..
L1058[16:51:39] <S3> %weather KNGR
L1059[16:51:39] <MichiBot> No data returned
L1060[16:51:40] <S3> oops
L1061[16:51:41] <Forecaster> Ash I kept that part as it was
L1062[16:51:43] <S3> %weather KBGR
L1063[16:51:43] <MichiBot> Current weather for Bangor International, ME Current Temp: 26°F/-3°C Feels Like: 20°F/-6°C Current Humidity: 92% Wind: From the ENE 5 Mph/7 Km/h Conditions: Light Snow
L1064[16:51:50] <Forecaster> Ah*
L1065[16:51:54] <S3> ooh showing there too
L1066[16:52:11] <gamax92> is it snow or ash
L1067[16:52:43] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
L1068[16:52:57] <S3> why would it be ash?
L1069[16:53:23] <S3> I hope this joke isn't the kind I think it is..
L1070[16:53:39] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/10
L1071[16:53:58] <Michiyo> ...
L1072[16:54:02] <S3> LOL
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L1074[16:54:13] <Michiyo> https://xkcd.com/10
L1075[16:54:13] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Pi Equals Posted on: 1/1/2006
L1076[16:54:16] <Michiyo> wtf..
L1077[16:54:26] <Forecaster> I know why it's doing that
L1078[16:54:38] <Michiyo> you borked my regex!
L1079[16:54:39] <Michiyo> :p
L1080[16:54:53] <Forecaster> I used a "beginning of string" anchor
L1081[16:55:00] <S3> so
L1082[16:55:05] <S3> PC-LOGIX
L1083[16:55:26] <S3> Is fantastic
L1084[16:55:31] <gamax92> S3: I was thinking of silent hill
L1085[16:55:37] <S3> gamax92: ah
L1086[16:55:40] <S3> alrighty then
L1087[16:55:50] <S3> I haven't played that game in forever gamax92
L1088[16:56:20] <Forecaster> I didn't consider that with the discord bridge it wouldn't be the only thing in the message :P
L1089[16:56:29] <Michiyo> S3, I'm not 100% sure *WHY* it's using that vhost...
L1090[16:56:35] <Michiyo> but yeah that's one of my sites :P
L1091[16:56:44] <S3> Michiyo: what is
L1092[16:57:07] <Michiyo> Oh.. I thought you meant PC-Logix.com :P
L1093[16:57:10] <S3> oh
L1094[16:57:37] <S3> I was talking about the modpack
L1095[16:57:49] <S3> the site is blank
L1096[16:57:54] <Michiyo> Yes... my modpack is pretty neat.. :p
L1097[16:58:04] <Michiyo> not if you goto https://pc-logix.com
L1098[16:58:07] <Michiyo> and ignore the invalid cert
L1099[16:58:27] <Michiyo> (since it's for a different site)
L1100[16:58:37] <S3> https://pc-logix.com is unsafe click here to proceed anyways
L1101[16:58:52] <S3> lol
L1102[16:58:57] <Stary[m]> This server could not prove that it is pc-logix.com; its security certificate is from caitlynmainer.com
L1103[16:58:59] <Stary[m]> gg
L1104[16:59:19] <Michiyo> yeah, like I said.. not sure why it's showing that for the https but hey
L1105[16:59:20] <Michiyo> w/e
L1106[16:59:26] <Michiyo> one day I'll fix the PC-L site
L1107[16:59:32] <Michiyo> and it'll be great!
L1108[16:59:38] <S3> ooh openfm
L1109[16:59:50] <S3> didn't know about that one
L1110[17:00:38] <S3> inch o' snow
L1111[17:01:38] <S3> Magik6k: so for the first time I ran plan9k in survival on somebody's server
L1112[17:01:47] <S3> and it panics before finishing booting with 2 tier 2 sticks of ram
L1113[17:03:10] <gamax92> I'mma boot plan9k in ocemu
L1114[17:04:15] <gamax92> it crashed
L1115[17:05:17] <S3> lol?
L1116[17:06:23] <gamax92> hmm ... it boots in mc, I should try to fix that then
L1117[17:06:35] <Michiyo> Pffft call it a feature
L1118[17:06:54] <S3> openfm sure looks a lot like the dragon radio mod thing
L1119[17:07:28] <Michiyo> Cause I got permission from the author of it to use it to base OpenFM on it
L1120[17:07:34] <S3> ah
L1121[17:08:11] <S3> now we just need Perl 6
L1122[17:08:17] <S3> for MC modding
L1123[17:08:26] <S3> then I could stir stuff up like crazy
L1124[17:08:31] <Michiyo> But yeah.. it's very loosely based on it by now
L1125[17:08:33] <Michiyo> lol
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L1127[17:11:50] <Michiyo> I should look at text scrolling again in 1.9+ since the method I use doesn't work anymore
L1128[17:11:55] <Michiyo> (for openfm)
L1129[17:12:56] <Michiyo> It seems in 1.9+ (might be 1.8 too I don't remember but I think it was 1.9) ALL TEs share the same TESR, so the method I was using for scrolling text made all the radios share the same text and scroll super fast the more radios you added
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L1132[17:25:38] <Kodos> OC didn't start until 1.6.4, right?
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L1135[17:29:45] <gamax92> oh nvm ... plan9k just wants lua 5.3
L1136[17:33:03] <S3> if OCRS is for simplex, OCRX is for multiplex..
L1137[17:33:16] <S3> what abbrevication OCR something would signalling be?
L1138[17:33:27] <S3> I'm finally writing up Ocranet docs
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L1140[17:36:21] <S3> thesaurus.com says winking is a synonym for Signalling
L1141[17:36:29] <S3> so I should call it the OCRW:M-1 protocol
L1142[17:36:33] <S3> OCR Winking
L1143[17:37:05] <Michiyo> IIRC Yes Kodos
L1144[17:37:10] <Michiyo> yay late to home tome
L1145[17:37:12] <Kodos> Bah, okay
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L1152[18:36:55] <S3> CompanionCube: I just added a feature to Ocranet that makes things like your DNS system work on top of it..
L1153[18:37:02] <S3> like supports it inside of the protocol itself
L1154[18:37:50] <S3> since signalling and data are seperate in my network because it's circuit switched, I made the packet number field a string for signals
L1155[18:38:10] <S3> the only two signals I have right now are OCR:1 and OCR:2, which is connect and teardown.
L1156[18:38:32] <S3> however, you could make your own, like DNS:1 for resolve, for example
L1157[18:40:38] * CompanionCube is currently on a youtube binge
L1158[18:41:11] <CompanionCube> S3: so basically this is IPv4's protocol field
L1159[18:42:19] <S3> I suppose you could
L1160[18:42:28] <S3> the downside is that the switches have to support it
L1161[18:42:36] <S3> or at least the switch you're talking to
L1162[18:42:56] <S3> itl ignore any packet it doesn't know
L1163[18:44:32] <Caitlyn> Hey guys.... bulk electronics components online, where
L1164[18:44:46] <S3> what kind?
L1165[18:45:11] <S3> Mouse? Digikey?
L1166[18:45:17] <S3> Adafruit?
L1167[18:45:22] <S3> Mouser*
L1168[18:45:34] <Caitlyn> Digikey! thats the one I couldn't remember
L1169[18:45:35] <Caitlyn> thanks
L1170[18:45:36] <S3> Mouser is great about non bulk orders
L1171[18:45:42] <S3> heh
L1172[18:45:48] * CompanionCube would like split it up into control-messages and operation requests/responses
L1173[18:45:54] <Caitlyn> Mouser and Digikey... going to have to try to get my boss to go elsewhere for components...
L1174[18:46:48] <S3> what's the difference?
L1175[18:46:51] <S3> CompanionCube: ^
L1176[18:48:21] <CompanionCube> S3: eh. The former would most likely be 'What X do you support? What is feature Y?'
L1177[18:48:29] <S3> ohh...
L1178[18:48:50] <S3> that sounds doable
L1179[18:49:29] <CompanionCube> S3: That method sounds uhc easier than attempting to determine a common subset of features using string-parsing as efined currently
L1180[18:50:11] <S3> hmmmm
L1181[18:50:23] <CompanionCube> doesn't messagepack have lists of some kind
L1182[18:50:33] <S3> it might
L1183[18:50:42] <S3> I think msgpack will make this so easy to implement
L1184[18:50:47] <S3> because then all you do is work with tables
L1185[18:50:51] <S3> and let msgpack create the paket
L1186[18:50:53] <S3> packet*
L1187[18:51:07] <S3> or vice versa..
L1188[18:51:39] <CompanionCube> S3: ''Array represents a sequence of objects'
L1189[18:51:46] <S3> huh
L1190[18:51:50] <S3> teah
L1191[18:51:52] <S3> yeah*
L1192[18:53:22] <S3> so right now my protocol is just this:
L1193[18:53:43] <S3> { vpi => NUMERICAL, vci => NUMERICAL, payload => STRING }
L1194[18:54:09] <S3> vpi 0 and vci 0 is where ALL signalling packets go
L1195[18:54:24] <S3> everything else is a connection on that switch that goes "somewhere"
L1196[18:54:25] <S3> a wormhole
L1197[18:58:44] <S3> CompanionCube: I think it may actually be even better to keep the VPI and VCI hidden
L1198[18:58:52] <S3> and just have connection numbers
L1199[19:01:17] <S3> so all signals go to connection 0
L1200[19:01:47] <S3> and then your packets are litterally connection number : packet data if you wanted
L1201[19:02:33] * CompanionCube wonders if he would bother to save bandwidth by only specifiying the fullname of an operation once and using a numeric identifier afterwards
L1202[19:06:10] <S3> so by keeping vci and vpi visible it's faster
L1203[19:06:14] <S3> what do you think
L1204[19:06:24] <S3> connection number or both vpi and vci in header
L1205[19:06:36] <S3> with a connection number, it has to perform a lookup
L1206[19:06:40] <S3> for every cell
L1207[19:07:01] <S3> with visible vpi and vci it just forwards immediately
L1208[19:07:08] <CompanionCube> keep them in the header, avoids a potential bottleneck right out of the gate
L1209[19:07:15] <S3> yeah
L1210[19:13:03] <S3> do you think ISDN number addressing should be kept, or maybe a new address format that is string based like domains?
L1211[19:13:47] <S3> foo.bar.companioncube
L1212[19:14:18] <S3> In reality, any addressing format is valid as long as the switches that use it support it
L1213[19:14:31] <S3> a switch could translate from one to another
L1214[19:14:39] <CompanionCube> the ISDN format seems more compact
L1215[19:14:44] <S3> an example of this is that internally my switches dynamic routing uses the UUIDs of the switch
L1216[19:14:50] <S3> instead of routing formats
L1217[19:16:07] <S3> I do like it
L1218[19:33:31] <SolraBizna> are you familiar with UUCP addresses?
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L1220[20:31:03] <CompanionCube> where's Corded's source?
L1221[20:32:06] <gamax92> https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/Yuri
L1222[21:02:27] <Kodos> Asking for a friend; What would cause a SPECIAL_POOL_DETECTED_MEMORY_CORRUPTION bluescreen on less than two month old ram?
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L1224[21:24:11] <SolraBizna> Bad chip that made it through QA?
L1225[21:24:27] <SolraBizna> Faulty contact?
L1226[21:24:32] <SolraBizna> Unstable power supply?
L1227[21:24:41] <SolraBizna> An issue with the CPU?
L1228[21:24:45] <SolraBizna> Cosmic ray?
L1229[21:24:54] <SolraBizna> Russia?
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L1232[22:22:33] <PipLynx> hi
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L1234[22:23:15] <gamax92> 20 seconds
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L1237[23:06:25] <Hovercraft> Any non crap web IDEs for python for coding in school/something? Willing to host it on my own
L1238[23:13:45] <Izaya> why not use a native one?
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L1240[23:44:58] <snowden89> cloud9 ide?
L1241[23:51:03] <gamax92> oh, that's why my left eye always feels like there's something in it ...
L1242[23:51:08] <gamax92> there's an eyelash resting on it
L1243[23:52:25] <snowden89> always
L1244[23:52:36] <snowden89> thats been unoticed for sometime :p
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