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L1[00:04:25] <Saphire> Hmmm
L2[00:05:04] <Saphire> Distributed IRC bouncer?
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L7[00:58:08] <ade129> I hate myself so much
L8[01:02:28] *** minecreatr is now known as Mine|dreamland
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L12[02:02:22] <Forecaster> %tell inari I did that too yesterday :P
L13[02:02:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster: inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L15[02:35:55] <techno156> Saphire, could be oc
L16[02:36:03] <techno156> The OC disc, I mean
L17[02:36:12] <Saphire> huh?
L18[02:36:22] <techno156> There's an IRC client on one of the dungeon discs for OC
L19[02:36:28] <Saphire> ... um
L20[02:37:02] <techno156> so, they could have found that, and fiddled around with it
L21[02:43:55] <Inari> Forecaster: Oil buyer upgrade is OP
L22[02:44:23] <Forecaster> :P
L23[02:44:29] <Forecaster> I still haven't bought that
L24[02:44:38] <Forecaster> because it'll require rebuilding my entire factory
L25[02:45:03] <Inari> Yeah, but due to how weird the tooltip sare, it isn't as bad as it sounds
L26[02:46:39] <Forecaster> I don't think it's bad
L27[02:46:59] <Forecaster> I still have to rebuild everything because the ratio changes
L28[02:48:27] <Inari> Not saying you don't have to rebuild it, just that it isn't as anoying a ratio as I thought
L29[02:49:46] <ade129> *copies efficient setups from the wikia*
L30[02:49:58] <Forecaster> that's boring
L31[02:50:04] <ade129> ikr
L32[02:54:39] <Forecaster> I wonder how difficult it'd be to make all fluid blocks produce more than one bucket of fluid
L33[02:55:04] <Forecaster> does forge allow adjusting that
L34[02:57:15] <Inari> There
L35[02:57:26] <Inari> 7978/tick
L36[02:57:27] <Inari> :D
L37[02:57:34] <Forecaster> :P
L38[02:57:36] <Inari> Still abandoned research though
L39[02:57:41] <ade129> How long is 1 tick actually
L40[02:57:48] <Inari> It tells you
L41[02:57:51] <Forecaster> 1ms
L42[02:57:52] <ade129> Oh
L43[02:58:09] <ade129> 6t/s *takes out calculator*
L44[02:58:13] <Inari> And theres research to make it quicker
L45[02:58:24] <Inari> Cause apparently they can develop time warping
L46[02:58:30] <Forecaster> I can't do anything more until monday
L47[02:58:35] <Forecaster> cause my save is at work
L48[02:58:55] <Forecaster> but that's intentional, because I have lots of stuff that needs doing
L49[02:59:03] <ade129> So 5 more minutes and plastic
L50[02:59:21] <ade129> that game is strangely addicting...
L51[02:59:52] <ade129> Because you can sell things for real money instead of having it go nowhere like factorio...
L52[02:59:58] <Forecaster> I made a spreadsheet that calculates how long it'll take to reach a goal value based on tick-rate, prod/tick and your current stock
L53[03:00:27] <ade129> Mind sharing it? too lazy to make 1
L54[03:00:29] <Forecaster> works for both money and research
L55[03:03:21] <Forecaster> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thz84J4UX8f8dBSGbOmfr0OI9t4WN1fMWUTLOBtpsbY/edit?usp=sharing
L56[03:04:53] <Inari> I'm sure I'm polluting the world with all this waste
L57[03:04:54] <Inari> But eh
L58[03:05:10] <Forecaster> but it goes into a magic garbage can
L59[03:05:21] <Inari> Thats just a chute to a truck
L60[03:05:24] <Inari> we then dump it somewhre
L61[03:05:39] <Forecaster> that's not canon :P
L62[03:05:57] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/a/JGz34
L63[03:06:02] <ade129> The letter pairs I and l is responsible of 99% of the mistakes in URL typing, why do they even use it
L64[03:09:20] <Inari> Bought the other building too, but its a pain to work with
L65[03:09:23] <Inari> so 8527/tick
L66[03:11:05] <Izaya> can we get standalone factoryidle
L67[03:11:46] <Forecaster> re-make it in rpgmaker
L68[03:12:33] <Inari> Would probably not even be that hard to remake :P
L69[03:15:10] <Forecaster> relatively to other games sure
L70[03:15:14] <Forecaster> still no easy task
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L74[03:23:30] <ade129> If factoryidle had some keyboard shortcuts it'd be excellent
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L76[03:24:16] <Forecaster> but it does
L77[03:24:22] <Forecaster> you can uh... press space!
L78[03:26:08] <ade129> that's it?
L79[03:26:51] <Inari> I....
L80[03:26:55] <Inari> I added a weird disease!
L81[03:27:25] <Forecaster> that's the only keyboard key that does anything yes :P
L82[03:27:28] <Inari> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=798025574
L83[03:28:02] <Izaya> Forecaster: I was thinking more grab the code and then throw it at a standalone webkit window
L84[03:28:22] <Forecaster> that's easy
L85[03:28:49] <Inari> Grab the code by its EOF
L86[03:29:34] <ade129> i.imgur.com/sc8uowl.png
L87[03:29:34] <ade129> My current setup (slight modification of the A4 setup on the subreddit)
L88[03:29:57] <ade129> Sorry, owi not owl
L89[03:30:10] <ade129> i.imgur.com/sc8uowi.png
L90[03:31:02] <Forecaster> why no http
L91[03:31:28] <ade129> I typed it in manually, too lazy to add it in
L92[03:31:40] <Forecaster> ...
L93[03:32:00] <Inari> Psh them copied layouts :P
L94[03:32:23] <ade129> ik lol, I am too dumb
L95[03:33:08] <ade129> The first thing to reform in the latin alphabet's shapes is the letters I and L (Might as well do q snd g if I can)
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L98[03:37:04] <Inari> 2 1/3 hours till I have 1 billion I think
L99[03:37:25] <Inari> ade129: Nah, just use a proper font
L100[03:38:13] <ade129> Discord's font doesn't really do well when distinguishing between I and l (Other than thr fact that the L is a bit taller)
L101[03:50:43] <Izaya> wtf is this
L102[03:50:49] <Izaya> why can't I make a loop?
L103[03:51:04] <Forecaster> loop?
L104[03:51:26] <Inari> Dunno, have you looked up a guide forbondage loops?
L105[03:53:44] <Izaya> factoryidle
L106[03:53:56] <Izaya> my usual strategy in factorio is to have all the things on a loop
L107[03:55:07] <Forecaster> that seems like a bad idea in FI
L108[03:55:11] <Forecaster> because it wastes space
L109[03:55:58] <Inari> Why would you want a loop
L110[03:56:32] <Inari> I can't think of nay scenario where a loop would do much :P
L111[03:58:41] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_3aALB \o/
L112[04:00:08] <Inari> I should get teh gas upgrade
L113[04:00:09] <Inari> but eh
L114[04:00:13] <Inari> Don't feel like rebuilding again
L115[04:00:27] <Forecaster> that's how I feel with the oil one :P
L116[04:00:48] <Inari> PLus it means I can't have the gas buyer merge into oil or coal line
L117[04:02:28] <Inari> Forecaster: WEll I reallly wanted the oil one becuase 4 buyers on each factory was dumb :D
L118[04:03:31] <Forecaster> I'm talking about the next one
L119[04:03:35] <Forecaster> the 300% one
L120[04:04:03] <Inari> Yeah, I mean that one :P Unless the next one is the 50% 4 billion one
L121[04:04:20] <Inari> #I had factories upgraded already, if you recall
L122[04:04:23] <Inari> so I needed 4 oilb yers on them
L123[04:04:25] <Forecaster> wut
L124[04:04:29] <Forecaster> yeah, I have that
L125[04:04:40] <Forecaster> but I only have 2 buyers per factory
L126[04:04:48] <Inari> Weird :P
L127[04:04:56] <Inari> Well they buy 2
L128[04:05:06] <Inari> factory needs 8
L129[04:05:10] <Inari> so.. 4 :D
L130[04:05:25] <Forecaster> oh no I don't have that
L131[04:05:28] <Forecaster> mine need 4
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L133[04:11:55] <Charlotte> Izaya: !!! my friends mum had a spare desktop
L134[04:12:02] <Charlotte> bit crappy but better than nothing :3
L135[04:12:08] <Charlotte> how cool are these storms :D
L136[04:12:30] <Izaya> They're sorta nice
L137[04:12:32] <Forecaster> on a scale of 1 to stormy?
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L139[04:12:46] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L140[04:12:55] <Charlotte> atm...2
L141[04:13:03] <Charlotte> lightening in the clouds is beautiful
L142[04:14:30] <Inari> Charlotte: Don't eat mami
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L146[04:14:53] <Izaya> Charlotte: will the desktop run loonix?
L147[04:16:35] <Charlotte> I believe so :3
L148[04:16:40] <Charlotte> its a...
L149[04:17:01] <Charlotte> eMachines EL1850
L150[04:20:56] <Inari> Oh right, 4 bits is a nipble
L151[04:23:05] <Charlotte> its a nipple silly
L152[04:24:58] * Inari sucks on her freshly arrived lolis
L153[04:25:23] <Forecaster> lewd
L154[04:25:34] <Inari> They're tasty
L155[04:25:49] <Inari> http://g02.s.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.shIGXXXXXbKXpXXq6xXFXXXj/201731053/HTB1.shIGXXXXXbKXpXXq6xXFXXXj.jpg can recommend
L156[04:27:42] <Charlotte> Lolis YUM
L157[04:30:16] <Inari> http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/28821/regex-that-only-matches-itself
L158[04:34:57] * Inari ups Forecaster's timescale
L159[04:35:32] <Forecaster> ?
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L161[04:38:06] <Mettaton_Fab> yo.
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L163[04:38:30] <Mettaton_Fab> currently installing opensuse on my laptop.
L164[04:39:20] <Mettaton_Fab> so im on my phone
L165[04:39:28] <Inari> Forecaster: Dunno, I'm bored :3
L166[04:40:03] <Forecaster> well, I'm designing a museum building for my new base
L167[04:40:10] <Inari> o.o
L168[04:41:31] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/0Mp6eNJ.png
L169[04:41:45] <Forecaster> Brown limestone or Underbrick
L170[04:41:49] <Forecaster> ?
L171[04:44:02] <Charlotte> oh Inari i saw that earlier this week lol\
L172[04:44:13] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/xH5lz7a.png
L173[04:44:15] <Forecaster> Limestone.
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L175[04:46:25] <Mettaton_Fab_> i like xfce
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L181[04:50:10] <Mettaton_Fab> yo.
L182[04:50:31] <Mettaton_Fab> on my oenSUSE install.
L183[04:50:39] <Mettaton_Fab> *opensuse
L184[04:50:55] <Mettaton_Fab> my laptops keyboard has a defective p key.
L185[04:51:47] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/RUPfC3O.png
L186[04:51:53] <Forecaster> I like this direction
L187[04:52:34] <Mettaton_Fab> looks nice.
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L190[04:54:54] <Forecaster> yeah
L191[04:55:04] <Forecaster> using railcraft stairs for the roof is gonna bite me though
L192[04:55:15] <Forecaster> cause the builder wont be able to rotate them correctly
L193[04:57:27] <Mettaton_Fab> well, i can now use xfce on my laptop as a desktop envoirement
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L196[05:01:24] <Saphire> Um
L197[05:01:25] <Saphire> Wat
L198[05:01:42] <Saphire> What is the /sys/devices/system/node ?
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L204[05:07:36] <Mettaton_Fab> oi.
L205[05:07:40] <Charlotte> Hey what is a decent unix shell for windows, cygwin isn't exactly nice to me.
L206[05:07:47] <Mettaton_Fab> i dunno.
L207[05:08:15] <Saphire> Charlotte: linux!
L208[05:08:25] <Forecaster> linux vm? :P
L209[05:08:26] <Inari> Windows
L210[05:08:27] <Inari> pls
L211[05:08:28] <Saphire> though in win10 they have unix subsistem
L212[05:08:30] <Saphire> iirc
L213[05:08:34] <Saphire> *system
L214[05:08:36] <Charlotte> im running 7...
L215[05:08:46] <Charlotte> yeah apparently the win10 subsys is okay
L216[05:09:22] * Izaya hmms
L217[05:09:24] <Izaya> so
L218[05:09:26] <Izaya> Windows 10: like 20GB download
L219[05:09:30] <Izaya> Debian: like 5GB download
L220[05:09:31] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0De8BgPLw
L221[05:09:31] <MichiBot> Drifters Opening - Gospel of the Throttle | length: 1m 28s | Likes: 1,078 Dislikes: 3 Views: 75,630 | by Berserker | Published On 14/10/2016
L222[05:09:49] <Mettaton_Fab> http://imgur.com/gallery/Sx5Ai
L223[05:09:49] <Izaya> fully installed, with a bunch of unneccesary packages
L224[05:10:10] <Charlotte> true
L225[05:10:21] <Charlotte> but i bricked my mac which had a deb download on
L226[05:10:34] <Charlotte> and only have 4gb data
L227[05:10:35] <Izaya> isn't there a HFS+ driver for Windows?
L228[05:10:44] <Mettaton_Fab> my opensuse install was like 4.4 gb or so.
L229[05:10:49] <Charlotte> i cant remove the hdd
L230[05:11:00] <Izaya> ... Right, Mac.
L231[05:11:00] <Charlotte> need an apple tool + torx
L232[05:11:05] <Charlotte> yeah
L233[05:11:16] <Mettaton_Fab> how did you brick it
L234[05:11:38] <Charlotte> dd to partition...forgetting dd doesnt listen to info about partitions
L235[05:11:47] <Charlotte> wiped boot loader
L236[05:12:00] <Charlotte> and about the first 590mb of the drive.
L237[05:12:19] <Mettaton_Fab> you're fucked
L238[05:12:32] <Charlotte> yeah.. most likely.
L239[05:12:43] <Charlotte> its recoverable
L240[05:12:47] <Charlotte> just not easily.
L241[05:12:54] <Charlotte> no way its booting again
L242[05:14:18] * Forecaster enables win10 linux shell
L243[05:14:49] <Mettaton_Fab> get me the openSUsE bootdisk!
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L245[05:15:12] <Izaya> finally FactoryIdling properly
L246[05:15:18] <Izaya> making money, making research
L247[05:15:30] <Charlotte> im gonna have to manually recover my crap...
L248[05:15:43] <Charlotte> well imsure there are data recovery progs but eugh
L249[05:15:50] <Charlotte> its going to take forever.
L250[05:15:59] <Charlotte> Izaya: wha?
L251[05:16:09] <ade129> tfw you realise you need *two* belts for the iron in upgrade 4 for max. efficiency
L252[05:16:15] <Forecaster> http://factoryidle.com
L253[05:16:27] <Izaya> like factorio but heavier and less deep gameplay
L254[05:16:46] <Forecaster> or cookie clicker, but more deep gameplay
L255[05:16:47] <Forecaster> :P
L256[05:16:50] <Charlotte> oohhhhh i played ittt
L257[05:16:52] <ade129> Oh and you get money instead of crafting
L258[05:16:53] <Charlotte> i love it
L259[05:17:55] <Charlotte> im in love with a few games at the moment
L260[05:18:02] <Mettaton_Fab> i want a better pc.
L261[05:18:17] <Izaya> Charlotte: a friend of mine has a Mac
L262[05:18:23] <Izaya> how does one make Minetest run on them
L263[05:18:26] <Mettaton_Fab> i might get my dads old pc if i set up the vm on his newer one.
L264[05:20:00] <Izaya> apparently they can't open it
L265[05:20:13] <Mettaton_Fab> i currently have an i/o error so i cant run a web browser.
L266[05:21:02] <Izaya> that sounds bad
L267[05:21:05] <Izaya> you may want to check your disk
L268[05:21:18] <Mettaton_Fab> fuck, i cant open anytthing anymore.
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L270[05:21:42] <Izaya> rip
L271[05:24:42] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/nycz3BE.png
L272[05:25:10] <Charlotte> i just compiled it Izaya
L273[05:25:15] <Charlotte> for mac
L274[05:25:19] <Izaya> ... that won't work
L275[05:25:38] <Izaya> so you didn't get the prebuilt stuff for Mac working?
L276[05:25:41] <Charlotte> also they supply binaries that "just work"
L277[05:25:47] <Izaya> apparently not
L278[05:25:57] <Izaya> I have no idea why
L279[05:26:02] <Izaya> they didn't go into detail
L280[05:26:06] <Izaya> but it 'won't run'
L281[05:26:06] <Charlotte> they do....what version of OSX are they running?
L282[05:26:10] <Izaya> idfk
L283[05:26:21] <Charlotte> no errors given...bleh
L284[05:26:25] <Izaya> yeah
L285[05:26:29] <Izaya> damn normies
L286[05:26:29] <Charlotte> your friend bothers me
L287[05:26:33] <Charlotte> xD
L288[05:26:49] <Charlotte> yeah i cant help without more info
L289[05:27:04] <Izaya> I would be able to help more if they gave more info
L290[05:27:07] <Izaya> but no
L291[05:27:41] <Charlotte> eugh
L292[05:27:45] <Charlotte> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.electrowolff.factory&hl=en
L293[05:27:53] <Charlotte> i cant stop playing this
L294[05:28:03] <Izaya> >google play
L295[05:28:21] <Izaya> "minetest is not opening up on mac for some weird reason"
L296[05:28:27] <Izaya> "its like about mac user and all that"
L297[05:28:36] <Izaya> all the info right there
L298[05:28:41] <Charlotte> or this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.cyanfox.cmt&hl=en
L299[05:28:48] <Charlotte> wow...
L300[05:29:05] <Charlotte> eugh i cant help at all with that info
L301[05:29:12] <Izaya> pretty much
L302[05:29:16] <Izaya> this was like two days ago though
L303[05:32:05] <Charlotte> yeah sorry Izaya nothing i can do
L304[05:32:27] <Charlotte> and now with out OSX to test and see what there issues maybe...i can't help at all :/
L305[05:32:47] <Izaya> I'll probably have to take a look myself
L306[05:32:55] <Izaya> why can't people just buy cheapshit windows machines
L307[05:33:04] <Izaya> ... because private schools
L308[05:33:05] <Izaya> >.>
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L311[05:37:47] <ade129> Hmm, did they allow apps from everywhere (Look in System Preferences -> Security or something like that)
L312[05:38:16] <Izaya> I doubt it
L313[05:38:22] <Izaya> Fucking signing
L314[05:38:29] <Izaya> The only OS X box I have here is pre-App Store
L315[05:38:31] <Izaya> well
L316[05:38:34] <Izaya> not exactly
L317[05:38:45] <Izaya> but before the main method of getting software for OS suX was iTunes anyway
L318[05:38:51] <ade129> Oddly enough, MultiBeast, a hackintosh tool *is* signed
L319[05:38:55] <Izaya> you could use the machine without an Apple DRM account
L320[05:40:04] <ade129> I always downloaded dmgs... Never touched the app store for anything other than iWorks (actually quite nice), iMovie, GarageBand (an old version since they charge for a copy of the new version now) and OS X
L321[05:40:45] <Charlotte> Izaya: signing wouldn't (really shouldn't) be the issue
L322[05:41:01] <Charlotte> last week when i downloaded and ran it, no signing issue
L323[05:42:16] <ade129> mac user... Is he admin
L324[05:42:37] <Izaya> that could be it actually
L325[05:42:40] <Izaya> got the mac for school
L326[05:42:57] <Charlotte> OH
L327[05:42:59] <Charlotte> yeah
L328[05:43:04] <Charlotte> that may well be it.
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L330[05:43:38] <Charlotte> but it can run local to a directory....why would it need admin permissions...eugh macs
L331[05:46:30] <ade129> Because... Magic?
L332[05:46:54] <ade129> Maybe it needs something in the library? I don't really know
L333[05:47:21] <Charlotte> I can't remember
L334[05:51:25] <Charlotte> ah this kit would do...if it wasnt out of stock http://www.dx.com/p/wlxy-wl06p-12-in-1-repair-disassembly-tools-kit-for-iphone-4-4s-ipad-ipad-2-the-new-ipad-179509
L335[05:51:33] <Mettaton_Fab> macs are one kind of computer, the horrible kind.
L336[05:52:08] <ade129> The collector's market kind (Looks pretty, does fuck all)
L337[05:53:25] <Charlotte> yeah ikr Mettaton_Fab
L338[05:53:52] <Mettaton_Fab> macs are only good of they're the older ones.
L339[05:54:04] <Charlotte> this kit might also do http://www.dx.com/p/pro-skit-sd-9608-aluminum-alloy-multi-in-1-screwdriver-bit-set-black-green-silver-337714
L340[05:54:10] <Charlotte> bleh such a pain
L341[05:55:49] <Mettaton_Fab> i can open my laptop with only a philips head screwdriver.
L342[05:56:57] <ade129> I have T6s but the god damn tri-wings
L343[05:57:12] <Mettaton_Fab> tri-wing is hell.
L344[05:57:30] <Izaya> I can open my laptop with a paperclip and my fingernails if I need to
L345[05:57:43] <Mettaton_Fab> why even screws if you dont want the customer to fix the machine?
L346[05:57:51] <Mettaton_Fab> just seal it tight!
L347[05:58:05] <ade129> ^What happened to most apple keyboards
L348[05:58:17] <Mettaton_Fab> apple is just crap.
L349[05:58:19] <ade129> So basically if you pour water over it, might as well buy a PC
L350[05:58:29] <Charlotte> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2010+Battery+Replacement/4502
L351[05:58:32] <Mettaton_Fab> simple apple logic.
L352[05:58:49] <Inari> Forecaster: this is bullshit :<
L353[05:58:54] <Charlotte> i know its battery but im sure i could get hdd acess from there.
L354[05:59:15] <ade129> For hard drives you only need a + shaped one
L355[05:59:28] <Forecaster> Inari: ?
L356[05:59:32] <ade129> The battery though, FUCKING TRIWINGS
L357[05:59:34] <Charlotte> on a 2010 macbook air ?
L358[05:59:34] <Inari> Forecaster: Upgrades only apply per area D:
L359[05:59:45] <Forecaster> oh, that's good though
L360[05:59:50] <Inari> how
L361[05:59:59] <Inari> It makes buying a new factory even less worth :P
L362[05:59:59] <ade129> Mid 2012 MBP
L363[06:00:12] <Inari> Hm
L364[06:00:14] <Forecaster> that means I can upgrade my oil thingies in the new factory without it affecting my existing one
L365[06:00:19] <Inari> I guess it means you can specialize in factories
L366[06:00:23] <Charlotte> derp....
L367[06:00:24] <Forecaster> so I don't have to rebuild it
L368[06:00:29] <Inari> Haha, right
L369[06:00:37] <Charlotte> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2010+Solid-State+Drive+Replacement/4505
L370[06:00:49] <Charlotte> nope...need the same tools..
L371[06:01:30] <ade129> Oh, macbook air
L372[06:01:37] <Charlotte> wait...apparently no hdd option...
L373[06:01:37] <ade129> I do have the P5 though
L374[06:01:53] <Charlotte> welp i could have sworn it was hdd....vibrated a lot
L375[06:01:55] <ade129> My MB*P* only needs a phillips screwdriver
L376[06:02:00] <Charlotte> i guess it was a bearing
L377[06:02:10] <Mettaton_Fab> macbooks in general are a shitton of wrongly used tech.
L378[06:02:13] <Inari> K time to research more
L379[06:02:15] <Inari> means I make less money
L380[06:02:16] <Inari> but oh well
L381[06:02:21] <Inari> I want electronics
L382[06:02:46] <Mettaton_Fab> i can only make money or do research.
L383[06:03:13] <Inari> At the current rate I need 107 hours to get thsoe
L384[06:03:13] <Inari> :s
L385[06:03:14] <Charlotte> what game Inari?
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L387[06:04:01] <Inari> idle factory
L388[06:04:23] <Charlotte> oh
L389[06:04:25] <ade129> I love how you need a paid apple developer license to obtain the system fonts, that's a new level of retardation
L390[06:04:33] <Charlotte> i used to play that
L391[06:04:41] <Charlotte> lol
L392[06:04:51] <Charlotte> apple dev sucks balls
L393[06:05:06] <Charlotte> im glad im back on windows now.
L394[06:05:37] <Charlotte> im off to bed nini
L395[06:05:42] <Inari> There
L396[06:05:43] <Inari> 55 hours
L397[06:05:44] <Forecaster> \o
L398[06:05:46] <Inari> better, but still bad
L399[06:05:54] <Forecaster> what?
L400[06:05:58] <Forecaster> 55 hours for what?
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L402[06:11:09] <Mettaton_Fab> i want a better pc, so i can use more things at once!
L403[06:12:53] <Skye> Morning
L404[06:16:03] <Inari> Forecaster: Electronics research unlock
L405[06:16:11] <Forecaster> ah :P
L406[06:16:20] <Inari> Them 20 million is a lot :<
L407[06:16:35] <Forecaster> yeeep
L408[06:16:54] <Skye> Inari, wut
L409[06:17:08] <Inari> ?
L410[06:17:09] <Forecaster> http://factoryidle.com
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L412[06:17:14] <Forecaster> :P
L413[06:17:14] <Mettaton_Fab> idlefactory or so.
L414[06:18:56] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_qtxZe
L415[06:18:58] <ade129> Are bonus ticks which are given when one closes the browser for a while equivalent to the amount of ticks that would pass if the browser was open?
L416[06:19:13] <Forecaster> presumably
L417[06:19:39] <Inari> Bonus ticks are given while offline, yes
L418[06:19:55] <Forecaster> that wasn't the question :P
L419[06:21:15] <Inari> :P
L420[06:21:40] <Inari> Doubt its the same
L421[06:21:45] <Inari> then I'd get 350k+ overnight
L422[06:21:59] <Forecaster> true
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L424[06:42:53] <Inari> 22 hours
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L427[06:43:10] <Forecaster> yay
L428[06:43:40] <Inari> Forecaster: These land price :<
L429[06:43:51] <Forecaster> I know right
L430[06:43:55] <Inari> Thats actually why I'm going for research, :P Hoping electronics will give me moar
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L432[07:03:56] <LizzyTheKitty> note to self, set self to idle/away/offline on discord when not online
L433[07:05:01] <Lizzy> also morning i s'pose
L434[07:05:30] <Forecaster> Hams
L435[07:16:03] <S3> Morning
L436[07:19:36] <Forecaster> Hams.
L437[07:21:05] <S3> I am a Ham!
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L442[07:28:47] <Skye> %p
L443[07:28:48] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.17s
L444[07:29:13] <Skye> %p
L445[07:30:02] <Skye> %p
L446[07:30:04] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.18s
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L449[07:40:01] <Sangar> welp, so much for that .-.
L450[07:40:05] <Sangar> o/
L451[07:40:18] <Forecaster> omg snagar
L452[07:40:31] <Forecaster> \o/
L453[07:40:39] <Forecaster> so much for what? :P
L454[07:41:01] <Sangar> being back to dev oc :P
L455[07:41:25] <Sangar> so. serious talk. given my failure to find/make time for oc. anyone up for taking it over?
L456[07:42:24] <S3> oh hey it's sangar
L457[07:42:37] <S3> Sangar: NO! you must work on it FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER
L458[07:43:33] <Sangar> ikr
L459[07:43:49] * Vexatos quits
L460[07:44:04] <Sangar> that's my line Vexatos >_>
L461[07:44:23] <Vexatos> don't relay your duties onto others D:<
L462[07:44:44] <Sangar> well, the alternative is the duties not being fulfilled at all, so :P
L463[07:44:50] <Lizzy> omg it's a Sangar
L464[07:45:11] <Sangar> eyo
L465[07:45:50] <Lizzy> Sangar, have you seen my latest adition to the forum migration topic on the forums?
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L467[07:46:08] <Sangar> but yeah, seriously. i'll probably try porting tis 3d to 1.10.2, and may continue circuity, but oc is just such a massive time sink, i can't right now...
L468[07:46:17] <Sangar> Lizzy, ah, nope, will check it out
L469[07:46:52] <Forecaster> is there anything critical in oc that needs adressing?
L470[07:46:58] <Forecaster> for me it's quite stable as it is
L471[07:47:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, how about actually releasing it at least >_>
L472[07:47:11] <Sangar> well, there's a couple of open bugs on the tracker
L473[07:47:18] <Sangar> yeah, i guess i'll just do that as is
L474[07:47:20] <Forecaster> there will always be bugs :P
L475[07:47:39] <Vexatos> ya #2019 is the most critical of bugs
L476[07:47:40] <Vexatos> pls fix
L477[07:47:49] <Vexatos> because it's the only bug in Computronics
L478[07:47:53] <Vexatos> :>
L479[07:48:00] <Forecaster> shush
L480[07:48:36] <Vexatos> Sangar, at least check the new issues since you've been gone
L481[07:49:03] <Sangar> it's a full bloody page .-.
L482[07:49:11] <Sangar> more like 2
L483[07:50:16] <Vexatos> well, better get started then :^)
L484[07:50:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, how dare you get a job and stop modding D:
L485[07:51:05] <Sangar> i'm sorry D:
L486[07:51:11] <Sangar> but you know, food and such
L487[07:51:13] <Vexatos> it's like having food and shelter would be more important to you than divine salvation D:
L488[07:51:35] <Sangar> yeah, sounds weird now that you say it
L489[07:53:06] <S3> I am worried that OC will become abandonware :(
L490[07:54:08] <20kdc> OC can't become abandonware, as long as we have the DETER-- I mean, so long as we have the determination to continue! This channel has, what, fifty people?
L491[07:54:15] <20kdc> Probably more?
L492[07:54:33] <20kdc> And a lot of those, by nature of OC being a computer mod, knowing how to program?
L493[07:54:40] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L494[07:54:44] <XDjackieXD> probably
L495[07:55:12] <ade129> Just a bit, nothing proper like C of coursr
L496[07:55:17] <ade129> Just a bit, nothing proper like C of course
L497[07:55:20] <ade129> *course
L498[07:55:37] <S3> well the good news, is that this is not redpower, and oc is open source
L499[07:56:02] <20kdc> Ok, so some won't be able to handle C or Scala. That still leaves them as potential OpenOS developers, surely?
L500[07:56:20] <S3> 20kdc: OCBSD!
L501[07:56:44] <20kdc> Or OCBSD developers, indeed.
L502[07:56:59] <S3> I really got to get back on that..
L503[07:57:05] <20kdc> Or maybe something totally custom!
L504[07:57:09] <ade129> possibly...
L505[07:57:21] <S3> Sangar has way more time than I do
L506[07:57:23] <S3> evidently
L507[07:57:23] <ade129> Know a bit of python, a fuck ton but still not enough of lua
L508[07:57:38] <S3> Lua is very quick to learn
L509[07:57:43] <S3> Python is just a pita
L510[07:58:11] <ade129> Just a very tiny bit of C, also a very tiny bit of Java
L511[07:58:19] <20kdc> ade129: As long as you know the general syntax and the basic table/string/unicode APIs, you should get along fine
L512[07:58:35] <ade129> I really need to learn Go or something like that
L513[07:58:58] <S3> I have quite a lot of C experience, quite a lot
L514[07:59:06] <S3> mostly without any standard library
L515[07:59:22] <S3> because the only time I tend to use C is when I'm working with hardware..
L516[07:59:56] <S3> and much of that time C is just used for an API to interface assembly that does all the real work for me
L517[08:04:56] <ade129> *suddenly thinks about the other mod* No signs of life since June
L518[08:05:12] <S3> What mod is that
L519[08:07:09] <ade129> (But then we don't really have signs of life either... on the website at least)
L520[08:08:44] <ade129> and for some intriguing reason the words "simplified Chinese" and "pretty" combined together really rubs me the wrong way
L521[08:09:14] <Forecaster> what mod tho
L522[08:11:41] <Skye> %p
L523[08:11:42] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.19s
L524[08:13:11] <S3> %p
L525[08:13:12] <MichiBot> Ping reply from S3 0.19s
L526[08:13:15] <S3> lol
L527[08:13:19] <ade129> %p
L528[08:13:23] <ade129> Lol
L529[08:13:29] <S3> bot fail
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L531[08:13:36] <ade124> %p
L532[08:13:37] <MichiBot> Ping reply from ade124 0.4s
L533[08:13:47] <ade124> 400ms. lovely.
L534[08:13:54] <S3> not bd
L535[08:13:57] <Forecaster> %p
L536[08:13:58] <ade124> (Where is the bot from exactly)
L537[08:14:00] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Forecaster 3.27s
L538[08:14:04] <ade124> nvm
L539[08:14:04] <Forecaster> :P
L540[08:14:11] <S3> speaking of latency, I need to get back to work on ocranet deployment with msgpack on OC today
L541[08:14:24] <Forecaster> iirc it was in paris?
L542[08:14:26] <S3> time to finish this auto building ATM network stuff
L543[08:14:29] <ade124> I'm pretty much used to high ping anyway
L544[08:14:43] <ade124> When (Some game) added a HK server I was somehow blown away
L545[08:14:43] <S3> 400ms is nothing
L546[08:15:01] <ade124> (400ms in online gaming is very very fun)
L547[08:15:23] <S3> when I am doing my field work my ping is anywhere from 2 seconds to 30 seconds
L548[08:15:52] <ade124> I get like 200~300ms on very good game servers
L549[08:16:37] <ade124> I got like 4 or 5ms when I used the local server, but that one has around 3 players on average
L550[08:16:43] <Mimiru> "bot fail" No... not really it can't ping people on Discord, can it? :P
L551[08:16:48] <S3> in the field I take about 45 secconds to get a username prompt with telnet
L552[08:17:07] <S3> it usually takes me a good 2 minutes to complete a login
L553[08:17:21] <S3> and that's if I don't miss a bunch of ACKs
L554[08:17:54] <ade124> we don't even use telnet anymore... Next door in taiwan however, the most popular forum is hosted on telnet
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L556[08:19:10] <S3> well I can't use anything encrypted on the frequencies I use in my field work
L557[08:19:22] <S3> so telnet is one of our only standardized options
L558[08:19:29] <ade124> hmm... why is that?
L559[08:19:51] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L560[08:22:37] <Mettaton_Fab> %p
L561[08:22:38] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mettaton_Fab 0.3s
L562[08:23:20] <Mettaton_Fab> on a german radio station they play the worst version of What is Love thats avaiable.
L563[08:23:25] <Mimiru> %p Michiyo
L564[08:23:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.25s
L565[08:23:36] <ade124> %p Corded
L566[08:23:37] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Corded 0.18s
L567[08:23:41] <Mimiru> +MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.25s
L568[08:23:41] <Mimiru> * Ping reply from Michiyo: 0.217 second(s)
L569[08:24:00] <ade124> %p localhost
L570[08:24:13] <Mimiru> localhost isn't a nick in here.... is it?
L571[08:24:39] <ade124> Out of boredom I decided to ping localhost (as in 127.0.0.1) and the time was 0.015ms
L572[08:26:25] <Mettaton_Fab> good!
L573[08:26:32] <Mettaton_Fab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
L574[08:26:32] <MichiBot> Haddaway - What Is Love [Official] | length: 4m 1s | Likes: 80,377 Dislikes: 1,641 Views: 9,392,489 | by CoconutMusicGermany | Published On 18/6/2014
L575[08:35:16] <Lizzy> Sangar, did you look at the forums?
L576[08:35:41] <Sangar> Lizzy, ah, right! yes. did you hear anything from him yet?
L577[08:35:46] <Lizzy> nope
L578[08:35:49] <Sangar> meh :/
L579[08:36:51] <Lizzy> I'll probably just buy a license for ipb4
L580[08:37:15] <Lizzy> cause i realy don't want to try and fuck about with getting old versions of software working
L581[08:37:35] <Lizzy> when they've sorta been marked as deprecated
L582[08:37:50] <Sangar> are those buy-once or is it a subscription?
L583[08:39:28] <Sangar> ah, there. so... kinda buy-once? is the renewal obligatory or is that "just" for future updates?
L584[08:39:58] <Lizzy> subscription based, initial upfront costs a bit but the re-new isn't too bad. the license lasts for 6 months and after that time it isn't mandatory that you buy a new license but if they release updates/new version you'll have to buy the license again
L585[08:39:59] <Sangar> either way, if you do, lemme know, i can chip in, make some actual use of dat patreon money :P
L586[08:40:05] <Lizzy> lol
L587[08:40:33] <Lizzy> only current problem is i'm not sure what modules Ir7_o got with his license
L588[08:41:06] <Sangar> mm, looking at the list on their site, we at least don't *use* anything besides the forums, do we?
L589[08:41:19] <Lizzy> i'm not sure
L590[08:42:30] <Lizzy> the blogs and downloads addons we /may/ use
L591[08:42:43] <Lizzy> though the downloads we could probably do some other way
L592[08:42:48] <Lizzy> if we even use them
L593[08:43:03] <Sangar> mmm, looking at the applications part of the admin cp, looks like just core + forums
L594[08:43:10] <Lizzy> the blogs part i'm not sure if that is the articles
L595[08:43:14] <Lizzy> oh? cool
L596[08:43:32] <Sangar> System, Content, Forums, Members, IPS Converters are the installed apps
L597[08:43:57] <Sangar> applications not installed: Blog, Downloads. so we could ahve them now, but don't use them
L598[08:45:27] <Lizzy> yeah, that is what it looks like
L599[08:47:48] <Izaya> Sangar lives!
L600[08:48:03] <Sangar> not only that, i'm online!
L601[08:48:10] <Izaya> :o
L602[08:48:16] <Izaya> My sacrifices must've worked
L603[08:48:19] <Izaya> uh I mean
L604[08:48:20] <Izaya> never mind
L605[08:48:42] * Izaya begins scrubbing the blood off his hands
L606[08:48:48] <Sangar> blood for the blood god!
L607[08:49:36] *** Sangar changes topic to 'Forums: https://oc.cil.li/ | Wiki: http://ocd.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.6.0 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/ | Channel Rules: https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/171- | Stats: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/stats.html | Discord: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYifZFCA'
L608[08:49:53] <Sangar> there you go. broken mess that it may be, at least it's out there now :X
L609[08:50:27] <Mimiru> holy shit
L610[08:50:30] <Mimiru> Sangar.
L611[08:50:31] <Vexatos> holy shit
L612[08:50:34] <Vexatos> Sangar.
L613[08:50:41] <Mimiru> Huh... odd echo
L614[08:50:47] <Vexatos> Huh... odd echo
L615[08:50:56] <Sangar> holy shit
L616[08:51:07] <Vexatos> Sangar?
L617[08:51:08] <Mimiru> lol
L618[08:54:29] <Vexatos> Sangar, better tweet it :3
L619[08:54:57] <Vexatos> when you release :3
L620[08:57:09] <Lizzy> oops
L621[08:57:20] * Lizzy just dumped the oc sql database to her terminal
L622[08:57:55] <Lizzy> %p
L623[08:57:56] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 0.43s
L624[08:59:40] <Mimiru> :P
L625[09:00:23] <Lizzy> :P
L626[09:00:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, brb releasing four versions of computronics at last
L627[09:00:39] <Vexatos> only took you a year, man
L628[09:04:55] <payonel> Sangar: o/
L629[09:06:49] <Sangar> \o
L630[09:06:56] <Sangar> Vexatos, roughly :P
L631[09:08:06] <Sangar> wtf
L632[09:08:16] <Sangar> when did oc get so many downloads o.o
L633[09:08:33] <payonel> Sangar: i'm sticking around to continue to patch or improve openos. i need to learn some scala before i venture outside of loot/
L634[09:09:11] <payonel> it's been on my "want to dos" for a while now, but i can't commit, publically at least
L635[09:09:37] <Sangar> payonel, i can totally understand. glad you're still updating openos :)
L636[09:15:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, remember that OC appeared on forgecraft :P
L637[09:15:26] <S3> payonel use freedos?
L638[09:15:30] <S3> if you want to dos..
L639[09:15:47] <Vexatos> Btw sangar
L640[09:15:49] <Vexatos> have you seen
L641[09:15:54] <Vexatos> I actually implemented ore processing in OC
L642[09:15:55] <Vexatos> https://gfycat.com/BriefEnergeticAlaskankleekai
L643[09:16:11] <S3> Vexatos: WOT
L644[09:16:55] <20kdc> But that doesn't include dust multiplication, does it(?)
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L646[09:17:09] <20kdc> (...if it does, then all hail Vexatos!)
L647[09:17:27] <S3> Vexatos: I couldn't tell where the beginning and end of that animation was at first
L648[09:17:34] <S3> so I think I watched it like 5 times before I was like okay dejavu
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L654[09:21:36] <Sangar> mmm, possibly that yeah.
L655[09:21:42] <Sangar> also well done on the ore processing :P
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L657[09:24:39] <Forecaster> oh Lizzy did you see the factorio .15 dev post?
L658[09:25:11] <Lizzy> i might have
L659[09:25:15] * Lizzy can't remember
L660[09:25:23] <Forecaster> the one about nuclear power?
L661[09:26:25] <Sangar> i can blow up my base with a nuclear reactor now? :D
L662[09:26:34] <Forecaster> no :P
L663[09:26:36] <Sangar> because that never happened in mc. nope. never.
L664[09:26:37] <Sangar> awww
L665[09:26:47] <Forecaster> you will in .15 when that is released :P
L666[09:26:54] <Forecaster> beginning of next year it said
L667[09:27:01] <Sangar> \o/
L668[09:27:02] <Forecaster> they're adding steam
L669[09:27:08] <Lizzy> ah, yes
L670[09:27:16] * Forecaster is excited
L671[09:28:27] <Forecaster> Lizzy: when the beta for that comes out lets-play time? :3
L672[09:28:35] <Sangar> assuming it will be a fluid? as in reusing the pipes?
L673[09:28:42] <Forecaster> yes
L674[09:28:44] <Sangar> cool
L675[09:29:39] <Forecaster> https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-164
L676[09:29:41] <Forecaster> :>
L677[09:30:50] <Sangar> "no this is not going to be the final look of the reactor" heh
L678[09:31:33] <Forecaster> as a hardcore minimalist I was very dissapointed by that
L679[09:31:52] <Sangar> hahaha
L680[09:32:02] <Sangar> strategic map feature request? ;)
L681[09:32:40] <Forecaster> hehe, supreme commander reference :>
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L685[09:47:00] <Inari> 17.7 hours \o/
L686[09:47:24] <Inari> Forecaster: I figured out it does actaully help to give the reports producing thingies multiple kinds of material :o
L687[09:48:36] <Forecaster> I knew that already :P
L688[09:48:48] <Inari> :P
L689[09:48:54] <Forecaster> or well, I hadn't tried it, but I assumed that would work from what I'd read
L690[09:49:05] <ade129> *is attempting to wrap head around the concept of classes*
L691[09:49:17] <Inari> I thought it would just be like... It takes the best resource you put in and uses that as the extra production
L692[09:49:34] <Forecaster> A class is like a lover, you turn on the car and
L693[09:49:35] <Forecaster> wait no
L694[09:49:41] <Izaya> fuck my router is terrible
L695[09:49:47] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_heJD4
L696[09:49:56] <Inari> ade129: It's a pretty simple concept imo. What are you stuck with?
L697[09:49:57] <Izaya> Can't even cope with a Minetest session lasting more than 20 seconds
L698[09:50:00] <ade129> No, classes like C classes
L699[09:50:37] <ade129> Is it basically just functions but fancier?
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L701[09:51:19] <ade129> (Sorry for being such an idiot)
L702[09:51:28] <Inari> It encapsulates functions and variables
L703[09:51:35] <Inari> Hm
L704[09:51:37] <Inari> how to explain xD
L705[09:51:52] <Inari> I don't have much experience with classes in C though :P
L706[09:51:56] <Inari> More with C++ or Java or the like
L707[09:52:13] <ade129> just the general concept of classes...
L708[09:52:15] <Inari> ade129: And you're not an idiot :p
L709[09:52:20] <Forecaster> Wellp, that's enough drawing for today. Time for some Elite
L710[09:52:56] <ade129> So... basically like the math.blah blah blah things?
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L712[09:53:24] <Inari> ade129: Well say you want to code an enemy in a game.
L713[09:53:33] <Inari> You need an x/z/y position
L714[09:53:40] <Inari> health, attack power, defense power
L715[09:53:55] <Inari> and you want to move the enemy so you need some functions that do that
L716[09:54:06] <Inari> Have it make sounds and update and such :P
L717[09:54:21] <Inari> Now the "classic" way of doing all that I'm not 100% sure of
L718[09:54:30] <Inari> I guess you'd make a struct with the poisiton, health, attack power and defense
L719[09:54:34] <Inari> and an array you'd store that in
L720[09:54:39] <Inari> Are you familiar with structs?
L721[09:55:00] <ade129> No... I'm really only familiar with lua I'm afraid
L722[09:55:19] <Inari> Well a struct is just a bunch of variables grouped, so a bit like a table I guess, but with each having its own name and type
L723[09:55:35] <ade129> Oh
L724[09:55:49] <Inari> And then you'd have an enemy_move function which you handthe enemy struct and such to operate on it and you loop throguh the array to process all enemies etc
L725[09:55:58] <Forecaster> Lizzy: got some time for E:D? :3
L726[09:55:59] <Inari> But that can be a bit clunky
L727[09:56:05] <Inari> So its nicer to have a class Enemy
L728[09:56:09] <Inari> which has all those variables
L729[09:56:11] <Inari> and the functions
L730[09:56:32] <Inari> in C and such languages now every instance of Enemy you create has its own set of variables
L731[09:56:34] <Lizzy> Forecaster, maybe. don't actually have my controller with me
L732[09:56:37] <Inari> but they all share the same functions
L733[09:56:41] <Inari> own set of variable values that is
L734[09:56:48] <Inari> the types and names will be the same for all of them
L735[09:56:54] <Forecaster> dern
L736[09:56:58] <Inari> If that makes sense?
L737[09:56:59] <ade129> Oh
L738[09:57:09] <ade129> Thanks, I kind of get it now
L739[09:57:26] <Inari> so if you ahve a class Enemy, and you make new instance enemy1, and you assign it to have its hp varaible set to 40
L740[09:57:31] <Inari> Then when you call enemy1.somefunction
L741[09:57:38] <Inari> inside that function this.hp (or just "hp") will be 40
L742[09:57:49] <Inari> and if you modifiy that, the variable value in that instance will be modified
L743[09:57:51] <Inari> but not in others
L744[09:58:13] <ade129> Okay, thanks
L745[09:59:10] <Inari> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/class.html that shows some example code
L746[09:59:51] * Forecaster buys a sidewinder
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L748[10:16:12] * Mimiru locks the sidewinder onto herself, and fires it
L749[10:16:25] <Mimiru> wrong sidewinder? oh well, already fired it :P
L750[10:17:05] <Forecaster> you can't fire my sidewinder D:
L751[10:17:17] <Forecaster> I was about to award it employee of the hour
L752[10:17:24] <Mimiru> Too late.
L753[10:17:26] <Mimiru> Sorry
L754[10:17:50] * Mettaton_Fab gives Forecaster a potato
L755[10:18:22] * Forecaster turns it into fries and eats it
L756[10:24:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, o ch't https://twitter.com/Croxmata/status/797473645849378816
L757[10:24:55] <MichiBot> Sat Nov 12 10:18:28 CST 2016 @Croxmata: After almost a year, Computronics 1.6.1 is finally released for Minecraft 1.7.10, 1.8.9, 1.9.4 and 1.10.2! Get it at https://t.co/58ReuzHjbG
L758[10:25:18] * Mettaton_Fab gives Forecaster a "fries and ketchp" plant
L759[10:25:24] <Mettaton_Fab> *ketchup
L760[10:25:53] <Forecaster> I don't eat fries with ketchup > - >
L761[10:26:39] <Vexatos> Mettaton_Fab, either you eat them with malt vinegar or you are doing it wrong
L762[10:27:45] <gamax92> hey
L763[10:28:00] <gamax92> wtf
L764[10:28:10] <Sangar> Vexatos, \o/
L765[10:28:37] <gamax92> I'm not Vexatos
L766[10:31:25] <Sangar> you're not? fuck
L767[10:31:29] <Sangar> all those years...
L768[10:32:13] <Mettaton_Fab> Vexatos, did you ever eat cookies with marhsmallows?
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L772[10:39:52] <Forecaster> Sangar: to be fair their names are the same color (for me) so I know it can be difficult
L773[10:40:58] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2016-11-12_10-40-47.png nah
L774[10:40:59] <Mimiru> :P
L775[10:41:39] <Sangar> let's just pretend it's because of my red-green deficiency, ok :P
L776[10:41:45] <gamax92> I'm going to go look at the issue tracker
L777[10:42:00] * Forecaster plays face melting scene from indiana jones
L778[10:42:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, #2019 is critical :^)
L779[10:43:28] <gamax92> Though I apparently can't help because Sangar thinks my Scala isn't Scala-y enough
L780[10:43:50] <Sangar> wot
L781[10:44:44] <Sangar> if that ever was the case, i promise it's not anymore. as long as it fixes a thing, i don't care :X
L782[10:44:52] <gamax92> yay
L783[10:45:07] <Vexatos> Sangar, you called it Guybrush Threepwood? D:
L784[10:45:27] <gamax92> Vexatos is in critical condition
L785[10:45:34] <Sangar> poor vex
L786[10:50:03] <Forecaster> dammit!
L787[10:50:12] <Forecaster> none of these stations are selling vultures D:
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L789[10:58:32] <Antheus> is vex dying?
L790[10:58:34] <Antheus> rip
L791[11:02:29] <gamax92> Sangar: to be fair a lot of issue have people who didn't reply back with critical information
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L794[11:09:37] <Antheus> I feel like the only contribution I've ever made was adding one or two robots to the robots name list
L795[11:09:43] <Antheus> BB-8 and something else
L796[11:09:49] <Antheus> maybe something else
L797[11:09:56] <Antheus> Pretty sure on BB-8
L798[11:13:27] <Antheus> Welp
L799[11:15:54] <Vexatos> Antheus, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/graphs/contributors
L800[11:16:18] <Vexatos> you can check there
L801[11:16:19] <Vexatos> :P
L802[11:20:36] <Antheus> Ah, it was BB-8 and Codsworth
L803[11:20:37] <Antheus> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1582
L804[11:22:04] <gamax92> oh hmm, need to check something of ocemu.
L805[11:23:39] <Sangar> gamax92, you mean info besides "it no work"? :P
L806[11:24:10] <gamax92> or oc/mc version
L807[11:24:58] <Sangar> yeah
L808[11:26:06] <gamax92> tow company threatening to tow my father's car because of a block of wood on a wheel, even though the car runs fine and he complies with the lease (vehicle has to be operable and moved every 3 days)
L809[11:26:09] <Mimiru> You could totally do the issue templates
L810[11:26:31] <Mimiru> https://github.com/blog/2111-issue-and-pull-request-templates
L811[11:27:28] <gamax92> oh ... hmm.
L812[11:27:57] <gamax92> #lua for z in ("apple/pie".."/"):gmatch("(.-)/") do print(z) end
L813[11:28:08] <gamax92> |0xDEADBEEF|: D:<
L814[11:28:29] <Mimiru> the server is still ded.
L815[11:28:36] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vXKdK big update ._.
L816[11:28:44] <gamax92> wait so how is the bot still here?
L817[11:29:00] <Mimiru> cause the "bot" is a bouncer, that the actual bot connected to
L818[11:29:05] <Mimiru> and the bouncer is on a different box.
L819[11:29:15] <gamax92> clever
L820[11:30:25] <Forecaster> woah what
L821[11:30:34] <Forecaster> I have 141k in outstanding fines? oO
L822[11:30:42] <Forecaster> what the heck
L823[11:31:05] <gamax92> you've fucked up m8.
L824[11:31:27] <Forecaster> man being a space merc is harsh
L825[11:31:56] <gamax92> I don't get frontier patterns.
L826[11:32:01] <Antheus> oh I thought you were talking irl
L827[11:32:23] <gamax92> for z in ("apple/pie"):gmatch("(.-)%f[/%z]") do print(z) end results in "apple" "" "pie" ""
L828[11:32:26] <Vexatos> real-life fines are outstanding! :D
L829[11:32:27] <gamax92> wtf is with the empty strings
L830[11:33:07] <Forecaster> if I had 141k worth of fines to pay in rl I'd have probaly had a visit from someone by now :P
L831[11:33:10] <gamax92> and either way that doesn't have the right behaviour I wanted anyway ... so good ol concat the separator to the end has to satay
L832[11:36:16] <Forecaster> do I pay the stupid legacy fines or ignore them...
L833[11:36:23] * Forecaster looks up what legacy fines do
L834[11:36:56] <gamax92> Sangar: dev-MC1.7.10 wasn't the only one built 3 hours ago?
L835[11:37:31] <Forecaster> aah right, legacy fines are bounties that have expired without being collected
L836[11:38:22] <Sangar> gamax92, nothing changed in that. i just merged it all the way up and into the release branches
L837[11:39:08] <Forecaster> so legacy fines don't do anything... it seems
L838[11:39:16] <Forecaster> they just sit there waiting to be paid off
L839[11:39:35] <Forecaster> whatever, I'll just pay it to get rid of it
L840[11:41:41] <CompanionCube> grrr
L841[11:41:45] <CompanionCube> >hibernate to disk
L842[11:41:54] <CompanionCube> >forget to rebuild initramfs with hibernation support
L843[11:41:59] <CompanionCube> That was a waste of time.
L844[11:42:38] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ^
L845[11:42:51] <gamax92> could be TuxOnIce, successfully hibernates to disk but then kernel panics when booting up
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L847[12:03:02] <Lizzy> %lookup 37.115.35.164
L848[12:03:02] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for 37.115.35.164 /37.115.35.164
L849[12:03:04] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L850[12:03:15] <gamax92> Hey Lizzy
L851[12:03:19] <MalkContent> anything new in the oc release compared to the rc?
L852[12:03:30] <MalkContent> o great, nvm
L853[12:03:43] <Lizzy> Hi gamax92
L854[12:04:15] <gamax92> wonder where vifino's been
L855[12:04:20] * Lizzy SHRUGS
L856[12:04:24] <Lizzy> go away caps
L857[12:04:27] <Lizzy> probably sleeping
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L859[12:10:15] * Lizzy is waiting for a script to convert all the SQL table stuff to UTF-8 in preperation for a potential IPB upgrade
L860[12:10:50] <gamax92> I'm waiting for my thumb to heal
L861[12:11:08] <Lizzy> was doing it through a cli based php script but that was just getting stuck on stuff so i'm doing the 'web' version
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L865[12:19:27] <Lizzy> there, utf-8 conversion complete
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L872[12:31:53] <20kdc> Computronics Readme: "Probably required mods": <a lot of mods follow, including IC2>
L873[12:32:27] <20kdc> also Computronics requires Computronics to run?
L874[12:32:44] <20kdc> ...ok, this table is being facetious
L875[12:32:46] <20kdc> "BestModEver* 1.7.10 Notch, jeb, Dinnerbone and others"
L876[12:33:31] <Forecaster> woo
L877[12:33:37] <Forecaster> now installing ubuntu shell on win10
L878[12:33:39] <Forecaster> :3
L879[12:33:46] <Forecaster> because apparently that's what it uses
L880[12:40:50] <Lizzy> ?
L881[12:41:12] <Forecaster> the win10 linux thing :P
L882[12:41:32] <S3> WSL
L883[12:41:42] <S3> I was actually porting Slackware to WSL for windows 10
L884[12:41:47] <Forecaster> Walk Slowly Lizards?
L885[12:41:54] <S3> Windows Subsystem for Linux
L886[12:42:00] <Forecaster> yes that :P
L887[12:42:12] <S3> It's neat but too.. strictly bound
L888[12:42:13] <S3> so like
L889[12:42:23] <S3> you can't just have it enter any shell
L890[12:42:31] <S3> as an entry point
L891[12:42:40] <S3> otherwise the whole system crashes and reports some stupid error code
L892[12:42:45] <S3> no information whatsoever
L893[12:48:16] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L894[12:48:42] * Lizzy snuggles vifino all over
L895[12:49:38] <Inari> Mehh, can't find this cable I'm looking for
L896[12:49:58] <S3> so I'm going to keep telephone numbers in the OCRANET specs, but internally the switches are going to be more like ICD / DCC addresses to make things a bit easier.
L897[12:50:23] <S3> thankfully because of ATM, the format of the address is independent of the routing
L898[12:50:26] <S3> sorta
L899[12:51:02] <S3> it's both dependent locally and independent globally
L900[12:51:18] <S3> at least in this setup
L901[12:53:48] <S3> vifino: we all need to come up with an internal switch addressing system that is independent of bytes
L902[12:54:01] <S3> think variable length dot notation
L903[12:56:23] <S3> (example: AFI.ICD.AA.RD.AREA.MAC.SEL
L904[12:56:43] <S3> these aren't the numbers you'll be punching in to dial somebody
L905[12:56:51] <S3> these are the numbers the switches use to find eachother
L906[12:56:54] <S3> and to route
L907[12:56:55] <gamax92> ring ring
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L909[12:57:18] <gamax92> Boredom here, is Activity available?
L910[12:57:43] <S3> %seen activity
L911[12:57:43] <MichiBot> S3: activity has not been seen.
L912[13:02:07] <Mettaton_Fab> its me!
L913[13:02:39] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari, what kind of cable?
L914[13:02:43] <Inari> USB
L915[13:03:38] <Mettaton_Fab> A to which type?
L916[13:04:35] <CompanionCube> S3: did you look at the link I posted recently
L917[13:04:45] <S3> no where
L918[13:05:03] <CompanionCube> http://kaitai.io/ this looks interestomg
L919[13:05:10] <Inari> Mettaton_Fab: Just normal 2.0 or 3.0 or something :P
L920[13:05:43] <S3> CompanionCube: oh yep! I've made those
L921[13:05:51] <S3> I've made packing libraries before, this looks neats
L922[13:06:00] <Mettaton_Fab> for a phone i suppose?
L923[13:06:33] <CompanionCube> S3: the examples look decent and interestingly, it supports automatically making a diagram of your format
L924[13:07:06] <S3> One of the reasons I moved to msgpack is to support just not caring about binary boundries of the packet, etc
L925[13:07:15] <S3> which, introduces some latency but
L926[13:07:33] <S3> there a pure Lua implementation?
L927[13:07:42] <CompanionCube> don't think so unfortunately
L928[13:07:50] <S3> CompanionCube: If there is, I could use it for filesystem drivers, etc
L929[13:07:52] <S3> for ocbsd
L930[13:07:58] <CompanionCube> does have perl though :p
L931[13:08:24] <S3> yeah
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L933[13:08:44] <S3> I think for minecrafty things msgpack will be perfect
L934[13:09:25] <S3> there's just one problem
L935[13:09:46] <S3> trunks will be difficult to handle. I will have to somehow handle trunking with OCRM by fragmentation
L936[13:09:55] <S3> fragmentation could cause problems
L937[13:10:54] <S3> I still need to choose a dynamic routing compatible address format
L938[13:11:04] <S3> something where prefixes work
L939[13:12:09] <S3> CompanionCube: now the good thing is, and this should make it easy
L940[13:12:19] <S3> that neighbor switches can be identified by UUID!
L941[13:12:20] <S3> :)
L942[13:15:04] <CompanionCube> S3: do you have any plans for how to write the docs/any specs
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L944[13:15:37] <S3> I dunno, I keep changing it. I think it's about time I deploy it and write up how it works.
L945[13:15:42] <S3> I've planned for way too long
L946[13:15:46] <S3> what do you think?
L947[13:16:18] <S3> I think I will start with an OpenOS driver
L948[13:16:24] <S3> and doing network neighbor discovery
L949[13:16:54] <S3> I can make a table that records UUIDs of senders and wether or not they are routable, and go from there
L950[13:17:13] <CompanionCube> that'd be cool. https://github.com/miekg/mmark may be interesting for writing it/documenting it
L951[13:17:54] <S3> would that work with the forums section there?
L952[13:19:27] <CompanionCube> idk.
L953[13:22:28] <CompanionCube> another option would be pandoc because so many output formats
L954[13:27:13] <S3> CompanionCube: since I'm looking at OpenOS, are there any background processing libraries anyone has written for OpenOS that you like?
L955[13:27:15] <S3> that I could use
L956[13:27:55] <CompanionCube> uh, let me look at what's on openprograms
L957[13:28:11] <S3> I figured you already had a preference
L958[13:28:41] <S3> the other option is to use Magik6k's plan9k
L959[13:28:44] <S3> and write it for that instead
L960[13:28:50] <S3> since plan9k is more concurrent
L961[13:28:54] <S3> to begin with that is
L962[13:29:06] <CompanionCube> S3: doesn't openos have some kind of init/service thing that could be hooked into
L963[13:29:10] <CompanionCube> payonel:
L964[13:29:20] <S3> maybe, if there is, I never knew about it
L965[13:29:34] <S3> I know there's an init system
L966[13:31:05] <CompanionCube> so, i just browsed the forums and found https://github.com/kevinkk525/OC-tools/blob/master/modem-handler.lua
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L968[13:32:29] <S3> hmm, that's a strange looking lib heh
L969[13:32:53] <CompanionCube> https://openprograms.github.io/ O.o I didn't know we had a parser for a subset of ASN.1
L970[13:32:56] <S3> I'm thinking maybe I should use plan9k atm because Magik6k has ifconfig interfaces
L971[13:33:06] <CompanionCube> 'Decodes the data encoded with Distinguished Encoding Rules, a subset of ASN.1 (Abstract Syntax Notation One). Provides a context functionality, allowing to decode the X.509 certificates!'
L972[13:33:16] <S3> interesting..
L973[13:33:32] <S3> that's gotta be super slow
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L975[13:34:06] <CompanionCube> heh, fingercomp's apparently the author
L976[13:34:48] <S3> omg Magik6k what did you do to your interface handling in your modules
L977[13:34:50] <S3> lol
L978[13:35:45] <CompanionCube> ': Implementation of the CPython VM' I call bullshit.
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L981[13:36:57] <Metalhead33> Hello everyone
L982[13:37:02] <Metalhead33> I would like to ask Michiyo a question.
L983[13:37:25] <gamax92> To lower sodium eat half of meal
L984[13:37:37] <CompanionCube> Metalhead33: does it have to be specifically them that answers it
L985[13:37:46] <Metalhead33> Well, more or less, yes.
L986[13:37:49] <S3> holy shit
L987[13:37:51] <S3> leonard cohen died
L988[13:37:54] <Metalhead33> It is related to OpenFM.
L989[13:37:57] <gamax92> and?
L990[13:38:08] <gamax92> many people here use OpemFM too and can read Java
L991[13:38:20] <gamax92> so just ask your question already instead of continuing not to
L992[13:38:24] <Metalhead33> Well... does it support mp3 only, or is ogg supported as well?
L993[13:38:30] <gamax92> ogg should be supported iirc
L994[13:38:37] <Metalhead33> I would like to stream this: http://www.touhou.fm:8001/touhou.ogg
L995[13:38:38] <GreaseMonkey> i'd have assumed the opposite
L996[13:38:39] <Metalhead33> Oh, really?
L997[13:38:41] <Metalhead33> AWesome.
L998[13:38:46] <Metalhead33> I assumed only mp3 was supported.
L999[13:40:10] <Metalhead33> But okay, thank you all for the answer. The least I can do is to try it out.
L1000[13:40:18] <gamax92> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/OpenFM/player/OGGPlayer.java
L1001[13:41:09] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1002[13:41:11] <Lizzy> ffs me
L1003[13:41:20] <Metalhead33> ffs?
L1004[13:41:25] <gamax92> for fucks sake
L1005[13:41:54] <Metalhead33> Oh right, speaking of OpenFM and Touhou.FM... who was the member with the Kagerou Imaizumi avatar? Was it Lizzy?
L1006[13:42:03] <Lizzy> ?
L1007[13:42:04] <Metalhead33> Yep, it's Lizzy!
L1008[13:42:08] * Lizzy hides
L1009[13:42:40] <Metalhead33> Nononon, you got the wrong sound effect.
L1010[13:42:49] <Metalhead33> Instead of "?", you should have went like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yGfQak-q9M
L1011[13:42:50] <MichiBot> Metal Gear Alert! Sound Effect | length: 3s | Likes: 584 Dislikes: 6 Views: 90,114 | by 4chan Stuff | Published On 3/3/2015
L1012[13:44:01] <CompanionCube> wrt concurrency, I found a threading library: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/OpenPrograms.ru/tree/master/libthread
L1013[13:47:19] <Mettaton_Fab> Metalhead, thats the best sound effect to ever exist.
L1014[13:48:04] <Metalhead33> well, it plays the intro of the raido, then... nothing :v
L1015[13:48:16] <gamax92> CompanionCube: why does that just remind me of cc's parallel
L1016[13:48:42] <Mettaton_Fab> https://soundcloud.com/th3-w1z4rds-0f-d4nktr1cks/here-comes-dat-boi
L1017[13:55:41] <Metalhead33> Ugh... damn it, TouhouFM really doesn't like being streamed to third party clients.
L1018[13:55:58] <Metalhead33> It plays the intro for people who tune in, then it doesn't play what's on the air like it's supposed to.
L1019[13:56:39] <Metalhead33> It just stops after the intro.
L1020[13:58:35] <20kdc> Metalhead33: I have a hunch on why that could be
L1021[13:58:39] <Metalhead33> Oh?
L1022[13:58:42] <Metalhead33> You do?
L1023[13:58:51] <20kdc> Yes. OGG files are designed to be safely concatenated,
L1024[13:58:56] <20kdc> but if the streamer can't handle the changeover,
L1025[13:58:58] <20kdc> it'll break.
L1026[13:59:13] <Metalhead33> Ehhh... So much for playing TouhouFM on Minecraft then.
L1027[13:59:20] <20kdc> Metalhead33: It's possible,
L1028[13:59:24] <20kdc> but only via running a re-encode
L1029[13:59:30] <20kdc> Possibly use VLC
L1030[13:59:39] <Metalhead33> Yes, yes, but I am using OpenFM, the Minecraft mod.
L1031[13:59:46] <20kdc> Yes, but you use VLC to re-encode
L1032[13:59:57] <20kdc> Host your own sub-streaming server
L1033[13:59:57] <Metalhead33> Oh, but how?
L1034[14:00:03] <Metalhead33> Hmmmmm...
L1035[14:00:05] <20kdc> Then point OpenFM at the sub-streaming server
L1036[14:00:17] <Metalhead33> That makes sense.
L1037[14:00:31] <20kdc> I should probably check that this is actually how it's working, first.
L1038[14:00:46] <20kdc> Touhou.fm that is, not VLC
L1039[14:01:05] <Metalhead33> yep
L1040[14:01:06] <Metalhead33> well
L1041[14:01:10] <Metalhead33> I know the person who operates it
L1042[14:01:15] <Metalhead33> but he and I had a recent fallout.
L1043[14:01:29] <Metalhead33> I refused to watch a certain anime he likes, and now he says I should never talk to him again.
L1044[14:01:37] <CompanionCube> sounds like a douchebag
L1045[14:01:59] <Metalhead33> Well, he's not a very nice person, I'll give you that.
L1046[14:02:18] <Metalhead33> He even threatened to never-talk-to-me-again over arbitrary things like downgrading Firefox
L1047[14:03:03] <Metalhead33> Now, I do have some of his source codes available for a software that receives his stream, but I think giving it out would be a bit douchy too.
L1048[14:05:01] <Metalhead33> But VLC on the other hand plays his radio stream nicely.
L1049[14:05:12] <20kdc> And if it plays it, it should be able to stream it
L1050[14:05:29] <20kdc> VLC can stream anything it plays IIRC, but you probably need to transcode it to avoid this:
L1051[14:05:29] <20kdc> Vorbis: serialno 0495140977
L1052[14:05:29] <20kdc> 2023 packets in 140 pages, 14.4 packets/page, 1.137% Ogg overhead
L1053[14:05:30] <20kdc> Audio-Samplerate: 44100 Hz
L1054[14:05:30] <20kdc> Audio-Channels: 2
L1055[14:05:33] <Metalhead33> Yes, but oin OpenFM, it just stops after the intro, as we discussed it before.
L1056[14:05:46] <20kdc> It only stops after the intro because of the last of a transcode
L1057[14:05:49] <20kdc> It only stops after the intro because of the lack of a transcode
L1058[14:05:59] <20kdc> Again, see the above "two streams"
L1059[14:06:22] <Metalhead33> Yes, but I have no idea how to start my own substream (I am using Linux tho), and that might be an issue.
L1060[14:06:40] <20kdc> Not really, you just need to go through some panels in VLC
L1061[14:06:42] <20kdc> let me just look myself
L1062[14:07:12] <20kdc> Menu "Media"/Stream...
L1063[14:07:35] <20kdc> create a new "HTTP" destination...
L1064[14:07:47] <20kdc> Make sure "Activate Transcoding" is on...
L1065[14:08:01] <20kdc> Set the profile to something sensible,
L1066[14:08:10] <20kdc> like Audio - Vorbis (OGG)
L1067[14:08:22] <20kdc> leave "stream all elementary streams" off
L1068[14:09:00] <20kdc> I suggest setting the HTTP destination "path" to "/touhou.ogg"
L1069[14:09:36] <20kdc> Also, don't port forward, since that would be actually rebroadcasting the stream
L1070[14:10:30] <20kdc> Additional note: touhou.fm seems to just be a standard IceCast server.
L1071[14:11:15] <Metalhead33> okay, so http://localhost/&lt;some path>/touhou.ogg?
L1072[14:11:26] <20kdc> No, http://localhost/touhou.ogg
L1073[14:11:34] <20kdc> No, http://localhost:8080/touhou.ogg
L1074[14:11:50] <20kdc> Note that this is the *HTTP Destination*, not the network source
L1075[14:12:10] <20kdc> And the specific path you should write is "/touhou.ogg"
L1076[14:12:31] <20kdc> The above link is for playback of the sub-stream with openfm
L1077[14:17:45] <Metalhead33> ehhh, impossible to get it to do it right. I set the port to 8080, it asks for path, I say anything, but I can't get it to say http://localhost:8080/touhou.ogg
L1078[14:18:17] <Metalhead33> If I set it to localhost/touhou.ogg, it will say ":sout=#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8080/localhost/touhou.ogg} :sout-keep", which is clearly not what we want
L1079[14:19:04] <20kdc> I did say "you want /touhou.ogg"
L1080[14:19:05] <Metalhead33> if I say http://localhost:8080/touhou.ogg, it will respond with :sout=#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8080/http://localhost:8080/touhou.ogg} :sout-keep
L1081[14:19:10] <Metalhead33> oh right, thanks
L1082[14:19:31] <20kdc> (well, actually 'And the specific path you should write is "/touhou.ogg"')
L1083[14:19:51] <Metalhead33> yes, then the above link for playback does not function in OpenFM.
L1084[14:20:07] <20kdc> Try firefox?
L1085[14:20:19] <20kdc> Try firefox/chromium/your browser here?
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L1087[14:21:04] <Metalhead33> Unable to connect to there.
L1088[14:21:36] <Metalhead33> I'm not sure if it's actually streaming to begin with.
L1089[14:22:30] <20kdc> It's giving me: :sout=#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8080/touhou.ogg} :sout-keep
L1090[14:22:52] <20kdc> which works fine...
L1091[14:23:40] <20kdc> Maybe use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost.
L1092[14:24:19] <Metalhead33> Nah, same result.
L1093[14:24:56] <20kdc> I'm now confused.
L1094[14:24:59] <Forecaster> my poll finished, with 31 voters, dark themes won with 74%
L1095[14:25:01] <Forecaster> \o/
L1096[14:25:24] <20kdc> Forecaster: Is that horror or just white-on-black consoles?
L1097[14:25:38] <Forecaster> "Do you prefer light or dark applications/websites?"
L1098[14:27:09] <Metalhead33> ah, I got errors. Gonna paste them real quick.
L1099[14:27:40] <Metalhead33> http://paste.touhou.fm/gebiyelegu.sql
L1100[14:28:45] <20kdc> Is there anything before that?
L1101[14:29:10] <20kdc> Maybe change the port number.
L1102[14:29:16] <Metalhead33> ^C[00007fc9a0001368] core access out error: HTTP server not compiled-in!
L1103[14:29:19] <Metalhead33> Aaah, there it is.
L1104[14:29:28] <20kdc> ...well, there's your problem!
L1105[14:30:10] <20kdc> I'm guessing you're using a Debian-based?
L1106[14:33:20] <Metalhead33> nope, I use Gentoo
L1107[14:39:59] <Lizzy> Forecaster, i would have voted but i couldn't be bothered to make an E:D Forums account
L1108[14:40:08] <Forecaster> :P
L1109[14:40:23] <Forecaster> it was just idle curiosity
L1110[14:40:40] <Forecaster> and I can guess what you would have voted :P
L1111[14:40:45] <Forecaster> most likely dark
L1112[14:40:49] <20kdc> Metalhead33: Apparently there is a way to get a VLC nightly for Gentoo, but I'd be surprised if a nightly was actually needed. Just a question of why the HTTP server wasn't compiled in the first place...
L1113[14:42:03] <Lizzy> Forecaster, well, considering my site has a dark theme and i've put a bit of effort into getting a dark gtk theme i think you can safely assume what i would have picked
L1114[14:42:37] * Lizzy rubs up against vifino, covering him in some of her fur
L1115[14:42:40] <Forecaster> :P
L1116[14:42:48] <Forecaster> hence my "guess"
L1117[14:43:04] <Metalhead33> okay, I got it to stream, I can look at it in Firefox
L1118[14:43:08] <Metalhead33> now let's see it in OpenFM
L1119[14:44:03] <Metalhead33> nope, it does not work in OpenFM
L1120[14:44:18] <Metalhead33> oh wait
L1121[14:44:18] <Metalhead33> it works
L1122[14:44:39] <Metalhead33> but not with the normal radio - only if I invoke a Lua script in the computer (as in, OpenComputers computer)
L1123[14:44:49] <Lizzy> huh, weird
L1124[14:45:20] <Lizzy> that sounds like a bug, see if you can reproduce it with just OC and OpenFM and post it on OpenFM's issue tracker
L1125[14:46:14] <Lizzy> Sangar, you still about or did you fuck off for another 2 weeks again? :P
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L1128[14:46:44] <Lizzy> %seen Sangar
L1129[14:46:45] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Sangar was last seen 3h 8m 22s ago.
L1130[14:47:07] <Metalhead33> Hmmmm... But my circumstances are so unique - such as having to invoke VLC - that people might not be able to reproduce them
L1131[14:47:14] <CompanionCube> if it's gentoo
L1132[14:47:22] <CompanionCube> there's most likely a useflag to enable the HTTP server
L1133[14:48:02] <Lizzy> Metalhead33, doesn't really matter, the fact that it works through oc but not the radio itself is a bug
L1134[14:48:56] <Metalhead33> ugh, and now I can't get the music to shut up, even after having quit he world
L1135[14:49:02] <Lizzy> lol
L1136[14:49:18] <Metalhead33> I have to restart MineCraft completely to fix the issue LOL
L1137[14:49:57] <Metalhead33> Not sure if I should tell the operator of the radio that I managed to get his radio to stream in Minecraft... he told me that I should never talk to him against, because I refused to watch that anime.
L1138[14:50:04] <Lizzy> not sure what stuff java uses for openfm's stream that makes it different from the normal mc sounds but on my laptop (Arch) i don't hear anything from OpenFM. which reminds me i was going to make a new vm for Mimiru
L1139[14:50:16] <Lizzy> wat?
L1140[14:50:34] <Metalhead33> Touhou.FM is operated by a person I know and used to talk to regularly.
L1141[14:56:55] <gamax92> Hey Lizzy can you give me a cookie?
L1142[14:58:09] <Metalhead33> okay, I managed to turn the music off, or rather ,get the music to turn off.
L1143[14:58:35] <gamax92> I find it weird that ext# is little endian but the journal is big endian
L1144[14:58:47] <Lizzy> n...no... my cookie!
L1145[14:58:50] * Lizzy noms cookie
L1146[14:59:21] <S3> people don't know how to be american anymore
L1147[14:59:37] <Forecaster> I sure don't
L1148[14:59:38] <20kdc> people don't know how to be british anymore
L1149[14:59:46] <Forecaster> I don't know that either
L1150[14:59:51] <gamax92> people don't know how to be asian anymore
L1151[14:59:57] <Forecaster> or that
L1152[15:00:05] <20kdc> people don't know how to be <insert country here> anymore
L1153[15:00:24] <20kdc> all they are is one big blob of mean people
L1154[15:00:24] <Forecaster> insert <or that>
L1155[15:00:54] <20kdc> the unification of the world is not a benefit, it's a problem
L1156[15:00:59] <20kdc> a lack of character!
L1157[15:01:11] <20kdc> Because what we're unifying *to* is a bad thing
L1158[15:01:25] <20kdc> If we were all unifying to be nice people, well, no issues there
L1159[15:01:33] <S3> I am no trump supporter, neither am I a hillary supporter, but There's a bunch of people on Facebook sharing some stupid post about trump putting people in Jail for treason if they burn the flag. All I said was, growing up, I was taught that treating the flag poorly is very disrespectful and CAN send you to jail. and everyone called me a trump supporter
L1160[15:01:33] <S3> lol
L1161[15:01:35] <gamax92> yes there is
L1162[15:01:36] <S3> heck
L1163[15:01:49] <S3> I would have been disciplined badly if I ever folded the flag incorrectly
L1164[15:01:52] <S3> as a kid
L1165[15:01:58] <Metalhead33> wow
L1166[15:02:02] <Metalhead33> now the music plays fine just fine
L1167[15:02:02] <Metalhead33> weird
L1168[15:02:12] <gamax92> one cannot be truly nice because thanks to balance the more nice you are the more evil there is
L1169[15:02:44] <Lizzy> http://149.56.155.73:8080/ best internet radio
L1170[15:02:49] <Forecaster> you can still be not-a-jerk :P
L1171[15:03:02] <Forecaster> and people should hopefully be not-jerks back
L1172[15:03:13] <Forecaster> sadly some people are jerks anyway
L1173[15:03:53] <gamax92> I was listening to that stream and was going to close it
L1174[15:03:58] <gamax92> but then ffmpeg segmentation faulted
L1175[15:04:03] <Lizzy> lol
L1176[15:07:19] <gamax92> I wish ubuntu's auto updater thingy wouldn't cry because of 'wine-staging:i386'
L1177[15:07:55] <gamax92> literally ... updates go just fine if I do it on the terminal, including updates to that package, but the updater has an issue with it for no reason
L1178[15:11:31] <CompanionCube> S3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration#United_States it can't send you to jail directly
L1179[15:12:42] <Metalhead33> http://pastebin.com/225dD9Sx
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L1181[15:21:26] <Antheus> Urrgh
L1182[15:21:34] <Antheus> Why is the Euro strong than the USD rn
L1183[15:21:46] * Antheus shakes fist
L1184[15:22:48] <Metalhead33> But the price of salt is dropping dramatically.
L1185[15:23:18] <Metalhead33> In fact, the USA has turned into the world's biggest exporter of salt during the last four days.
L1186[15:24:14] <Antheus> Luckly I am not a producer of said salt
L1187[15:25:18] <Metalhead33> Neither am I... oh wait, I'm not even American to begin with. Nevermind.
L1188[15:35:22] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L1189[15:35:38] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L1190[15:37:30] <payonel> intellij is preferred over eclipse for gradle and scala?
L1191[15:38:37] <Vexatos> s/over.*//
L1192[15:38:52] <payonel> ok, thanks
L1193[15:38:55] <Vexatos> intelliJ is the best java IDE I know :P
L1194[15:41:20] <Metalhead33> I prefer Netbeans, but today, I tried out Eclipse... mostly because I attempted to make a Minecraft mod.
L1195[15:42:17] <Metalhead33> Aaaand, I still prefer Netbeans.
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L1197[15:42:35] <XDjackieXD> Metalhead33: please try intellij :P
L1198[15:42:40] <Vexatos> Metalhead33, you haven't tried IDEA then :P
L1199[15:42:56] <XDjackieXD> It't A LOT better than Netbeans and quite a bit better than Eclipse
L1200[15:43:03] <Vexatos> IDEA is, in my opinion, the best Java IDE and it is _definitely_ the best Scala IDE
L1201[15:43:12] <XDjackieXD> Vexatos: exactly ^^
L1202[15:43:59] <Antheus> :D
L1203[15:44:20] <Antheus> Bought CS's 737 100,200,200ADV and the cargo one
L1204[15:44:21] <Antheus> :3
L1205[15:48:28] <gamax92> Vexatos: yeah well you know what
L1206[15:48:32] <gamax92> fix the beep distance
L1207[15:49:00] <Metalhead33> I don't know if intellij and IDEA are available for Gentoo Linux or not :v
L1208[15:49:05] <Vexatos> I'd have done it months ago if I knew how :P
L1209[15:49:50] <Metalhead33> Oh wow, it is available.
L1210[15:58:29] <CompanionCube> Metalhead33: why wouldn't they be
L1211[15:58:54] <Metalhead33> Not sure.
L1212[15:59:09] <CompanionCube> most java apps couldn't care less about the distro
L1213[15:59:24] <Metalhead33> ewwww
L1214[15:59:29] <Metalhead33> it's paid software :v
L1215[15:59:51] <Forecaster> there's a community version
L1216[15:59:54] <Forecaster> that's free
L1217[15:59:56] <Metalhead33> oh, nice
L1218[16:00:16] <CompanionCube> but apparently the portage tree only has ultimate
L1219[16:00:54] <Metalhead33> I will probably download it separately once the trial version expires
L1220[16:01:36] <Vexatos> Ultimate edition is practically useless unless you are doing JavaScript dev or using certain frameworks
L1221[16:01:45] <Vexatos> Community is basically all you'll ever need
L1222[16:02:28] * Forecaster uses ultimate
L1223[16:02:30] <Vexatos> Metalhead33, why wouldn't you just get the community edition >_>
L1224[16:02:37] <Vexatos> Forecaster, waste of space :P
L1225[16:03:08] <CompanionCube> Vexatos: presumably because running 'emerge dev-util/idea-ultimate' is easier than grabbing community
L1226[16:03:15] <Metalhead33> yes
L1227[16:03:21] <Metalhead33> Vexatos: I use Gentoo Linux, it's much less convenient for me to download software from the browser
L1228[16:03:39] <Forecaster> I wont bother explaining why I am then
L1229[16:03:44] <Vexatos> You just download a .tar.gz file, unpack it, run idea.sh and done?
L1230[16:03:46] <Vexatos> >_>
L1231[16:03:55] <Metalhead33> well, not so sure it's that simple
L1232[16:04:00] <Vexatos> it is for me
L1233[16:04:15] <Vexatos> IDEA itself is a Java program
L1234[16:04:39] <Vexatos> so as long as Java supports your OS, IDEA does
L1235[16:04:39] <Vexatos> >_>
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L1237[16:05:09] <Metalhead33> okay, good.
L1238[16:05:15] <Metalhead33> Do you use it to make Minecraft mods?
L1239[16:05:30] <CompanionCube> ohey
L1240[16:05:31] <CompanionCube> https://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-util/idea-community
L1241[16:05:58] <Vexatos> I do
L1242[16:06:11] <Metalhead33> Nice, very nice. Do you use a template of sort? How do you do it without Eclipse?
L1243[16:06:36] <Vexatos> more easily?
L1244[16:06:46] <Metalhead33> I mean, how did you start?
L1245[16:06:58] <Metalhead33> How did you deobfuscate the Forge SRC, and all that jazz?
L1246[16:07:05] <Vexatos> ./gradlew setupDecompWorkspace
L1247[16:07:08] <Vexatos> >run idea
L1248[16:07:12] <Vexatos> >open directory
L1249[16:07:14] <Metalhead33> oh, nice
L1250[16:07:16] <Vexatos> >import gradle project
L1251[16:07:16] <Vexatos> done
L1252[16:07:17] <Vexatos> >_>
L1253[16:07:23] <Metalhead33> xD
L1254[16:07:43] <CompanionCube> Vexatos: doesn't gradle have an option to generate the idea project for you even
L1255[16:07:43] <vifino> Oh, Vexatos.
L1256[16:08:01] <Vexatos> CompanionCube, yes but IDEA itself does it much better than forgegradle
L1257[16:08:02] <vifino> Thanks to the amazingness of gamax92, phora might be alive again soon(tm)
L1258[16:08:11] <Vexatos> vifino, D:
L1259[16:08:14] <vifino> along with p. much everything else.
L1260[16:08:24] <Vexatos> well wiki.vex.tty.sh is still there :P
L1261[16:09:10] <vifino> I can't really change that address easily, so it most likely will for a long time.
L1262[16:09:11] <vifino> :D
L1263[16:09:26] <vifino> I /might/ try turning it on in a bit.
L1264[16:09:54] <Forecaster> http://blank.org/
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L1266[16:10:09] <Lizzy> going through the IPS4 adminCP, some of the new features that have been added are really useful, for example there's one that can fetch images from remote, http-links and serve them with https
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L1268[16:10:29] <Vexatos> Forecaster, the source of that website is insane
L1269[16:10:52] <Forecaster> so complicated
L1270[16:12:37] <gamax92> vifino: make sure you back it up first
L1271[16:13:23] <vifino> yeah, will do
L1272[16:13:47] <vifino> thank you, mr. fs god, for your perfect recovery and advice :3
L1273[16:18:59] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder if i can get url rewriting working and how much it will break old, external url links
L1274[16:19:55] <Metalhead33> I considered making a mod that... adds in a music disc that streams from Touhou.FM when put on a jukebox, and also possibly a peripherial for both OC and CC, that does the same. Then I discovered OpenFM. While not without its limits (forcing me to start my own sub-stream), it does the job fine.
L1275[16:21:08] <Lizzy> hmm, the url rewiting looks like it might be fairly complicated in nginx (i think), gonna see if i can get it working fairly well but failing that i'll just install apache or something and reverse proxy to it
L1276[16:21:45] <Mimiru> On the phone with my ISP trying to get my IP changed
L1277[16:21:46] <Mimiru> since having a broadcast address for an IP sucks.
L1278[16:22:10] <Lizzy> lol
L1279[16:22:16] <Forecaster> you should just accept your fate and start broadcasting things
L1280[16:24:23] <CompanionCube> Mimiru: how did that even happen
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L1284[16:34:23] <payonel> first time using intellij and gradle here. i am still settting things up, tryiing to import the oc project dir. the install (of intellij) told me it was adding gradle, but the "Gradle Home" is not set. do i need to install gradle separately?
L1285[16:34:39] <payonel> is there a howto doc on this i should follow?
L1286[16:37:57] <Vexatos> The OC project comes with a local gradle distribution
L1287[16:38:00] <Lizzy> here goes nothing
L1288[16:38:14] <Lizzy> testing an upgrade with IPS4 using the old data
L1289[16:39:40] <payonel> JAVA_HOME is not set, should that be the dir of `java` ?
L1290[16:40:05] <Lizzy> directory i think
L1291[16:40:11] * Lizzy is unsure
L1292[16:41:04] <Mimiru> and that got me nowhere ._.
L1293[16:42:17] * Mimiru sighs
L1294[16:42:34] <Mimiru> I guess I just have to use my VPN for stuff that blocks .255 addresses
L1295[16:43:30] <Forecaster> :/
L1296[16:44:55] <CompanionCube> Mimiru: you'd think that such an address would fail some kind of validation
L1297[16:45:40] <Mimiru> No... you can thank Supernetting for that
L1298[16:45:53] <Mimiru> since the ISP owns multiple subnets, they use supernetting to allow for it
L1299[16:48:33] <Mimiru> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_attack
L1300[16:48:45] <Mimiru> And this is why I can't talk to some servers...
L1301[16:48:53] <gamax92> did they change youtube's comment style?
L1302[16:49:44] <S3> Hey guys
L1303[16:49:55] <Forecaster> gamax92: nope
L1304[16:49:57] <Forecaster> not recently
L1305[16:50:18] <gamax92> Forecaster: I'm seeing lines dividing the comments and the username + date is on the bottom of the message
L1306[16:51:06] <Forecaster> I am not seeing this
L1307[16:51:07] <Lizzy> well, the theme has not survived the migration as far as i can see
L1308[16:51:17] <Mimiru> gamax92, http://michi.pc-logix.com/chrome_2016-11-12_16-51-11.png
L1309[16:51:39] *** Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L1310[16:52:00] <Mimiru> Lizzy, yeah... the layout changed A BUNCH theme wise from 3.4 to 4.*
L1311[16:52:03] <S3> damn it
L1312[16:52:06] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/pWg5Yzn.png
L1313[16:52:21] * Mimiru shrugs
L1314[16:52:21] <Lizzy> Mimiru, tbh i wasn't expecting it to follow anyway
L1315[16:52:30] <gamax92> I disabled all extensions and themes
L1316[16:53:05] * Metalhead33 is considering possibly thinking about making a 486 emulator mod for OpenComputers, adding it as an architecture... or not.
L1317[16:53:13] <Mimiru> Well.. looks like you got to be a tester gamax92
L1318[16:53:15] <Mimiru> congrats.
L1319[16:55:39] *** Keridos is now known as Keridos|away
L1320[16:56:10] *** Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L1321[16:57:41] <gamax92> Mimiru: it looks like garbage
L1322[16:58:16] <Mimiru> I didn't do it
L1323[16:58:28] <gamax92> Mimiru: ;-;
L1324[16:58:38] <gamax92> yeah it's not there in firefox but is in chrome
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L1326[17:02:54] <gamax92> https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/5cm0w9/new_comment_section_design/
L1327[17:03:30] <CompanionCube> gamax92 oh god the whitespace
L1328[17:03:51] <gamax92> yes it's stupid
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L1331[17:09:29] <Shawn|4650M> is thefoxx or thecrytek on?
L1332[17:09:45] <Forecaster> no
L1333[17:10:03] <Shawn|4650M> oh :(
L1334[17:10:09] <Shawn|4650M> their modpack website is down
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L1337[17:13:49] <Mettaton_Fab> i could buy a macintosh performa 630 on ebay, should i?
L1338[17:18:16] <gamax92> there I fixed it
L1339[17:18:48] <gamax92> they're using order and -webkit-order to reorder parts of the comment box, putting the header in the middle
L1340[17:21:21] <CompanionCube> so, reading comments on an article and tI agree with this very much: 'Instead every designer fancies themselves the next Steve Jobs and forces us to put up with their exclusive "vision" of how things ought to look.'
L1341[17:23:15] <Forecaster> that's what designing tends to be yes
L1342[17:23:46] <Izaya> Mettaton_Fab: will it run BeOS?
L1343[17:24:04] <Mettaton_Fab> i dunno.
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L1345[17:29:38] <CompanionCube> Izaya: i forgot to enable support from resuming from hibernation in my initramfs
L1346[17:31:01] <Izaya> ...
L1347[17:31:14] <Izaya> just suspend
L1348[17:31:36] <CompanionCube> too late for that now
L1349[17:33:54] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, lol i did that a while back
L1350[17:34:04] <Lizzy> though now systemd doesn't even go into hibernate
L1351[17:34:19] <Lizzy> like, it tries, dumps stuff to swap but then just doesnt shut down
L1352[17:34:38] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: I had that problem recently
L1353[17:35:14] <CompanionCube> but moving distros or install location seems to have fixed it
L1354[17:35:25] <CompanionCube> did you look in dmesg aftewards
L1355[17:36:10] <Lizzy> nope
L1356[17:36:17] <Lizzy> i just put it into susupend
L1357[18:00:22] <Lizzy> huh, so i found a version of the current OC forums theme on the IPS Marketplace, unfortunatly it's $30
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L1359[18:01:37] <cookta2012---> d
L1360[18:01:58] <Forecaster> b
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L1362[18:02:03] <Lizzy> ....
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L1364[18:02:29] <cookta2012---> lol
L1365[18:03:35] <gamax92> Lizzy: can't you just keep the current theme?
L1366[18:03:52] <gamax92> or does it need porting
L1367[18:03:54] <Lizzy> gamax92, nope, it does not survive the upgrade
L1368[18:06:55] <Lizzy> i am contemplating looking into how much work it'd be to make a theme and just rolling a custom one
L1369[18:07:44] <Izaya> ipboard is a piece of proprietary software, right?
L1370[18:07:51] <Lizzy> yes
L1371[18:07:52] <Izaya> (and that's what we use, right?)
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L1373[18:07:58] <Lizzy> yep
L1374[18:08:14] <Izaya> well, I'd be lying if I said I knew of any good alternatives
L1375[18:08:45] <Lizzy> it also doesn't help that people put stuff on the 'marketplace' have the cheek to charge for their stuff AND have a reoccuring subscription ¬_¬
L1376[18:08:56] <Izaya> ._.
L1377[18:09:38] <Lizzy> and yeah, i wish there were better, free alternatives because IPS is quite good but damn is it's shit expensive
L1378[18:10:14] <Izaya> maybe we should make our own forum engine
L1379[18:10:19] <Izaya> with blackjack
L1380[18:10:23] <Izaya> and you know the rest
L1381[18:10:36] <gamax92> and magnets?
L1382[18:10:41] <Izaya> yes
L1383[18:10:58] <Lizzy> like, the initial cost for the Core and Forums modules cost me about the same as a months cost for my new dedi
L1384[18:11:07] <gamax92> :/
L1385[18:12:08] <Lizzy> try not to break stuff, and when i actually go to migrate to the new place (will need to speak with Sangar first if he ever shows up again this weekend) anything on this test instance will be wiped: https://ocft.theender.net/
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L1387[18:14:44] <Lizzy> I think over time I'm going to end up making a fair bit of custom content for the forums. and perhaps /I/ could put it on the marketplace and charge money for it to the point where I can just cover the 6 month renewal with like, 2 downloads worth of my addon lol
L1388[18:15:55] <Lizzy> perhaps this is why some forums use ads, to get money to pay for the actual forum software and plugins
L1389[18:16:35] <payonel> how much do you need per month?
L1390[18:16:41] <gamax92> over 9000
L1391[18:16:50] <payonel> ^.^
L1392[18:16:52] <gamax92> cents
L1393[18:17:00] <payonel> pesos
L1394[18:17:12] <Lizzy> payonel, renewal is every 6 months. current renewal price is $25
L1395[18:17:32] <payonel> and initial cost is $30?
L1396[18:17:52] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: 'The owner of ocft.theender.net has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.'
L1397[18:17:54] <Lizzy> payonel, wait, are you wondering about the theme or the forum software itself?
L1398[18:18:09] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, yes, i know. it's using oc.cil.li's cert
L1399[18:18:29] <Lizzy> ignore the ssl errors for now
L1400[18:19:36] <Lizzy> payonel, Forum software initial cost was $175, renew is $25. the IPB4 version of the theme we have costs $30 upfront then $10 for renewal. 6 months is the renewal cycle for both
L1401[18:19:46] <gamax92> Lizzy: well some forums also use mybb and discourse and anythign not ipb
L1402[18:20:02] <CompanionCube> at least we're not on discourse
L1403[18:20:05] <CompanionCube> that is a positive thing
L1404[18:20:14] <gamax92> discourse is ugly
L1405[18:20:42] <CompanionCube> there is a reason TDWTF migrated away from it
L1406[18:21:43] <payonel> i wouldn't have expected a theme to have a subscription
L1407[18:21:52] <Lizzy> payonel, neither would i
L1408[18:21:54] <payonel> that is odd to me, but, this isn't my area of experience
L1409[18:22:43] <payonel> Lizzy: technically, i was curious about all the costs. so, if we got that theme and that software it would be (175+30) and (10+25)/6 months
L1410[18:23:51] <Mimiru> I've not had to pay for skins after the initial purchase unless the author is a total dick and releases it as a totally different download
L1411[18:24:23] <Lizzy> as for myBB, i think there was a reason we didn't use it, not sure though. the person who would know hasn't been here in a while. and since i paid for the fucking thing we're going to stick with IPS for at least until the subscription runs out :P
L1412[18:24:45] <Lizzy> Mimiru, *shrug* i just saw that it said $10 renewal on it
L1413[18:24:53] <Mimiru> and I can continue to download said purchases after the license expired including skin/mod updates, assuming the author wasn't a dick, and added it as a different download
L1414[18:25:29] <Lizzy> https://invisionpower.com/files/file/8065-ortem-ipsfocus/ is the one i was looking at
L1415[18:27:12] <Mimiru> Yeah.. most don't do that.. in my experience anyway.. Like the IPB license though, I figure you don't *have* to renew, unless you want updates
L1416[18:27:36] <Lizzy> i suppose
L1417[18:28:09] <Lizzy> i think i'll be taking Sangar up on his offer to use some of the patreon money for this
L1418[18:28:22] <Izaya> https://userstyles.org/styles/128355/big-factory-idle
L1419[18:28:58] <Lizzy> dafuq? why does a marketplace purchase need my phone number yet the purchase of IPB itself didn't?
L1420[18:29:01] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1421[18:30:06] <payonel> Lizzy: i would support financially. feel free to ping me when that is needed
L1422[18:32:35] <Lizzy> payonel, cool, don't need it at the moment luckilly. Though there is uncertainty about what is happening wrt my job post-december so I /may/ need some then (i don't think i will though)
L1423[18:33:44] <payonel> i would like to help even if you didn't _need_ it
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L1425[18:34:21] <Lizzy> god dammit, stupid request entity too large
L1426[18:36:48] <Lizzy> well, there's a link to send me money via paypal in my channels topic if you wanna do it that way :P
L1427[18:36:50] <Lizzy> also wow
L1428[18:38:03] <Lizzy> just looked at it and IPS (excluding the theme i just bought) costs ~£2 less than my fucking dedi (granted that was an upfront cost to both of them and my dedi will cost more cause it's monthly
L1429[18:38:36] <payonel> )
L1430[18:38:46] <Mimiru> Lizzy, come tax time I'm going to pay you back, so roughly 3 months
L1431[18:39:19] <Mimiru> sadly that's the earliest I *can* do so
L1432[18:39:44] <Lizzy> Mimiru, normally i'd say it's fine and wouldn't mind if i didn't get any money, but you are kinda using up ~40-50% of my resources :P
L1433[18:39:49] <Lizzy> That's fine
L1434[18:40:30] <Lizzy> hopefully soon i can finish migrating all my shit off of my old servers and get rid of them so i don't waste money on something i'm not using
L1435[18:41:26] <Mimiru> Well, I meant for the insurance payment you made for me a while back. For the server I might be able to pitch in a bit
L1436[18:41:50] <Lizzy> ah, i completely forgot about that lol
L1437[18:42:35] <Mimiru> Coulda kept quiet... :p
L1438[18:42:36] <Mimiru> j/k
L1439[18:43:20] <payonel> Lizzy: what are your "channels" ?
L1440[18:43:59] <Lizzy> that was meant to be channel's
L1441[18:44:06] <Lizzy> and you can probably guess
L1442[18:44:14] <Mimiru> #BobTheBuilder right?
L1443[18:44:14] <payonel> #lizzy? :)
L1444[18:44:23] <Lizzy> no
L1445[18:44:23] <Lizzy> yes
L1446[18:46:05] <Lizzy> payonel, will you make your mind up on wether you're going to stay in my channel or not :P
L1447[18:46:33] <payonel> well i misread your 'no\nyes'
L1448[18:46:46] <Lizzy> lol
L1449[18:46:49] <payonel> :) i thought you were saying yes to "#BobTheBuilder"
L1450[18:46:50] <Lizzy> well the yes was to your one
L1451[18:46:55] <payonel> well you answered in the wrong order
L1452[18:46:57] <payonel> :P
L1453[18:47:08] <Lizzy> Mimiru's message got to me first
L1454[18:47:09] <Mimiru> they were the right order here
L1455[18:47:20] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2016-11-12_18-47-17.png
L1456[18:47:23] <Lizzy> but they were ssent in the same second
L1457[18:47:29] <Lizzy> or rather
L1458[18:47:36] <Lizzy> i got them at the same second
L1459[18:48:30] <payonel> hah, well, normally message order doesn't matter :)
L1460[18:48:48] <payonel> makes sense i would see mine first
L1461[18:49:34] <Lizzy> also that's the nice thing with OVH that i can use paypal for payments (well, i could with vultr but didn't know how to make them auto-renew) so any payments i get into my paypal can go straight back into my servers (or sometimes other stuff i buy but that also technically means that the money that didn't go to the non-server stuff i bought then goes to the servers or something. I've now made this message uneccessarilly long and probably spelt a lot of it
L1462[18:49:34] <Lizzy> incorrectly)
L1463[18:50:13] <payonel> ha
L1464[18:58:56] <Skye> Hm...
L1465[18:59:37] <Skye> Who here has played OpenTTD with NewGRFs?
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L1468[19:16:09] <Lizzy> welp, i can make it snow on the forums :P
L1469[19:16:11] <Lizzy> well
L1470[19:16:17] <Lizzy> with the new ones
L1471[19:17:12] <Lizzy> though it does start to lag after a while, lets go turn that off
L1472[19:27:19] <ade129> I only play with the tram set...
L1473[19:29:11] <Lizzy> i think i'ma call it a night from working on forum stuff for now. Will write up a migration plan / test stuff properly tomorrow (or today rather) then plan to do the switchover in about a week's tine
L1474[19:31:17] * Lizzy curls up on vifino and falls asleep
L1475[19:31:59] <Keridos> can I get an object from component via a part of its address or do I always need to give the full address?
L1476[19:33:12] <gamax92> Keridos: if it's attached to the computer, then component.get will resolve short addresses to long addresses
L1477[19:33:34] <Keridos> is component.get the correct method for that?
L1478[19:34:26] <gamax92> yes
L1479[19:34:59] <Keridos> thanks
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L1492[20:33:40] <Charlotte> boop
L1493[20:34:57] <gamax92> no
L1494[20:37:35] <CompanionCube> beep?
L1495[20:38:20] <Charlotte> lol
L1496[20:38:25] <Charlotte> this is fun http://play.elevatorsaga.com/
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L1501[20:57:29] <payonel> trying to build oc. completely new to all of this. help is welcome
L1502[20:57:58] <payonel> i ran the 2 gradlew commands and have the project open in intellij, but when i build it (^f9) it says "No Project SDK"
L1503[20:58:09] <payonel> i dont know what sdk is missing, nor what to define for a project sdk
L1504[20:58:44] <payonel> oh there is a tiny tooltip to "import gradle project" i think i need to do that
L1505[20:58:59] <payonel> do i want "create separate module per source set"? it is checked by default
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L1507[21:07:46] <payonel> Charlotte: aaaand that is fun
L1508[21:07:49] <payonel> :)
L1509[21:08:46] <Charlotte> hehe i know :3
L1510[21:08:52] <Charlotte> i havent past the second level yet :p
L1511[21:09:02] <Charlotte> turns out level cycling like the demo, doesnt work :p
L1512[21:09:20] <payonel> what demo?
L1513[21:10:05] <Charlotte> the demo code in the first level
L1514[21:10:18] <payonel> oh thats what you mean
L1515[21:10:24] <Charlotte> yah
L1516[21:10:35] <payonel> but of course it doesn't work
L1517[21:10:35] <Charlotte> sycling works for the first level
L1518[21:10:39] <payonel> else there'd be no challange
L1519[21:10:39] <Charlotte> 0,1,2
L1520[21:10:42] <payonel> challenge*
L1521[21:10:54] <Charlotte> yeah someone else said it did, fails, epicly
L1522[21:45:05] <ade129> tfw I need to learn what tuples, arrays and dictionaries are when learning programming languages that are not lua
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L1525[21:50:37] <Charlotte> they exist in python i think
L1526[21:50:45] <Charlotte> with those names iirc
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L1528[21:53:58] <payonel> ade129, an array is a contiguous block of memory, meaning there are no gaps
L1529[21:54:40] <payonel> we say an array is size n, meaning it holds n elements of a given type (depending on the language - the type is defined when you create the array)
L1530[21:55:05] <payonel> if it is a static type language (unlike lua) that means the types dont change
L1531[21:55:50] <payonel> if you move 0 bytes from the start of the array, you are at the first element, if you move out 4 bytes, and say the size of the element type in the array is 4 bytes, then you are looking at the 2nd element
L1532[21:56:22] <payonel> arrays, by convention, do not change size (they're not smart objects, they are simply a block of memory)
L1533[21:57:15] <payonel> typically, we access elements in the array using [], like arr[3]
L1534[21:58:08] <payonel> maps do not have to obey any specific rules about how they exist in memory
L1535[21:58:21] <payonel> there are common ways they are made under the hood, but it is how they are used that is more important
L1536[21:58:33] <payonel> maps are a collection of key to value pairs, such as m[12] = "foobar"
L1537[21:59:12] <payonel> which is using storing string "foobar" at integer key 12
L1538[22:00:40] <payonel> maps are flexible and fast, but not as fast as arrays (when you know the index), but arrays are clearly not flexible
L1539[22:01:53] <ade129> Thanks...
L1540[22:01:57] <payonel> "tuples" in general text book sort of way are just a "set of values"
L1541[22:02:09] <ade129> (Yep, it's python)
L1542[22:02:17] <vifino> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xaKsNdq1HE
L1543[22:02:17] <MichiBot> Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. (Memes Cover) | length: 3m 42s | Likes: 4,868 Dislikes: 68 Views: 107,148 | by Chris Kogos | Published On 4/11/2016
L1544[22:02:41] <payonel> arrays could be considered a tuple
L1545[22:02:47] <payonel> maps, even, could be
L1546[22:03:04] <payonel> when talking about a language, tuple can have more specific meaning
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L1548[22:28:00] <Charlotte> can anyone suggest a torrent client, i need one for downloading some linux images
L1549[22:28:20] <Charlotte> nvm worked it out qtorrent
L1550[22:29:52] <Charlotte> HOLY CRAP I've been looking for this for agessss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPokJFyUq1s
L1551[22:29:52] <MichiBot> Fox Stevenson - All This Time | length: 4m 14s | Likes: 33,642 Dislikes: 565 Views: 2,660,722 | by MrSuicideSheep | Published On 27/5/2014
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L1554[22:53:00] <payonel> gamax92: ping
L1555[22:53:27] <gamax92> Hi
L1556[22:53:39] <payonel> im trying to run oc from source, and do my own builds
L1557[22:53:45] <payonel> i feel like im close
L1558[22:53:49] <payonel> have you done this?
L1559[22:54:01] <gamax92> Yes
L1560[22:54:12] <gamax92> ./gradlew build
L1561[22:54:37] <payonel> oh not "Build"->"Make Project" in intellij?
L1562[22:55:01] <payonel> doing that now (gradlew build)
L1563[22:57:07] <gamax92> I don't use intellij
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L1565[23:01:23] <payonel> ok i'm heading out for a bit, thanks
L1566[23:02:08] <scj643> Danganronpa is so messed up
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L1576[23:50:26] <Izaya> this is a new one
L1577[23:50:40] <Izaya> Skyrim crashed while I was being hit by a dwemer sphere and now my controller won't stop vibrating
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