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L1[00:00:05] <payonel> #lua t={} function t:foo() print(self.id) end t.id = 4 t:foo()
L2[00:00:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4 | nil
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L5[00:00:15] <payonel> #lua t={} function t.foo() print(self.id) end t.id = 4 t:foo()
L6[00:00:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global 'self')
L7[00:00:24] <payonel> no self, becaues i didn't declare the function with :
L8[00:00:35] <payonel> #lua t={} function t:foo() print(self.id) end t.id = 4 t.foo()
L9[00:00:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (local 'self')
L10[00:00:35] <TheFox> oooh, i didn't know there was a way to test lua here
L11[00:00:47] <payonel> no local self, because i didn't call it with :
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L14[00:09:29] <payonel> TheFox: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer
L15[00:09:33] <payonel> it's very wip
L16[00:09:38] <payonel> and the w in wip is definitely work
L17[00:09:53] <payonel> i'm just trying to make it better, not perfect
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L19[00:12:05] <TheFox> just out of curiosity why would one need this API if the IO API seems to do the same thing?
L20[00:12:21] <payonel> is that how i wrote it?
L21[00:12:31] <payonel> sincerely, because sorry my tech writing skills suck so badly
L22[00:12:41] <TheFox> thats not what i meant
L23[00:12:43] <payonel> TheFox: the io api doesn't do the same thing
L24[00:12:47] <TheFox> ok
L25[00:12:50] <gamax92> TheFox: the io api is built on top of the buffer api
L26[00:12:55] <payonel> the io.open call returns a file handle
L27[00:13:01] <payonel> and that file handle is a buffered stream
L28[00:13:14] <payonel> and..the api you can use on that buffered stream is defined on that api page i linked
L29[00:13:45] <TheFox> i dont know much about how lua works in the back, ik how to use it in the front
L30[00:13:50] <TheFox> i know it, i dont understand it
L31[00:14:09] <payonel> TheFox: if you have suggestions...or criticism
L32[00:14:09] <TheFox> so what would one use the buffer API for?
L33[00:14:13] <payonel> i've very open to that
L34[00:14:30] <payonel> specific ideas to help make the docs better are better than just "it sucks" or "i don't understand"
L35[00:14:32] <TheFox> i dont know enough to suggest anything,
L36[00:14:42] <payonel> not that those criticism aren't valid, they just don't help as much as ideas :)
L37[00:15:13] <Antheus> payonel, replace everything with "GL;HF"
L38[00:15:20] <TheFox> yeah, i totally understand that, i deal with that hourly, i wasn't trying to say that it sucked
L39[00:15:28] <payonel> TheFox: when you have `local file = io.open("foo.txt")` --- tell me all the methods you can call on `file`
L40[00:15:34] <payonel> Antheus: haha
L41[00:16:01] <Antheus> :P
L42[00:16:16] <payonel> TheFox: if you don't have the answer to that question (which i would expect you don't) --
L43[00:16:22] <payonel> read http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer#instance_methods
L44[00:16:28] <TheFox> all the inherited methods from io
L45[00:16:29] <payonel> THAT is the answer to that question
L46[00:16:35] <payonel> no
L47[00:16:40] <payonel> nothing from io
L48[00:16:55] <TheFox> from buffer?
L49[00:16:59] <payonel> (well...it might seem it does have a couple of them, but they are completely different)
L50[00:17:03] <payonel> yes, from buffer
L51[00:17:06] <payonel> to say again
L52[00:17:16] <payonel> "the file handle returned by io.open is ...."
L53[00:17:20] <payonel> "a buffered stream"
L54[00:17:25] <TheFox> this is why i dont get to well along with this, i never caught on to OOP
L55[00:17:34] <payonel> and that buffered stream is an object of this buffer, which the api explained in "instance methods"
L56[00:18:16] <payonel> TheFox: how do you like the opening paragraph to the buffer api page?
L57[00:18:18] <payonel> does it help at all?
L58[00:19:32] <TheFox> yup, i should have done more then a quick skim over the page then asked a question on it
L59[00:21:09] <TheFox> so the buffer API is lower level then IO?
L60[00:21:25] <TheFox> IO is built fro buffer
L61[00:21:29] <TheFox> from**
L62[00:22:59] <payonel> not lower level, it supports the io library
L63[00:23:10] <payonel> the object, or file handles, you get back from io.open are of this buffer type
L64[00:23:41] <payonel> it's lower level in the sense that io depends on buffer, and buffer depends on nothing
L65[00:23:58] <payonel> but io is "closer to the metal" :) in that it can call on the filesystem
L66[00:25:04] <TheFox> so if your doing something IO can't do use buffer then
L67[00:25:25] <payonel> can you rephrase?
L68[00:27:29] <TheFox> um. i haven't been in a spot where IO has failed to open a file but if it fails you could maybe use buffer to open it instead?
L69[00:27:45] <payonel> no -
L70[00:27:53] <TheFox> ok
L71[00:27:58] <payonel> buffer is a utility that helps io work nicely with streams
L72[00:28:11] <payonel> raw streams are less user friendly
L73[00:28:21] <payonel> filesystem (the fs library) returns raw streams
L74[00:28:30] <payonel> io returns buffered stream, the friendly kind
L75[00:28:55] <TheFox> so i would really only use the buffer API if say i was making some sort of text editor?
L76[00:28:59] <TheFox> for lua
L77[00:29:02] <TheFox> in OC
L78[00:30:57] <payonel> with a text editor, you'd use term to draw text to the screen, and to read text from the keyboard
L79[00:31:05] <payonel> and io.open to read the file, and write when the user saves
L80[00:31:30] <payonel> but you would never need to know more about the buffer library than those "instance methods" for working with the file handle you get from io.open
L81[00:31:48] <TheFox> ok
L82[00:32:24] <TheFox> so this is basically explaining, hey here is where those methods came from?
L83[00:32:58] <TheFox> i am sorry i keep going in loops, i dont know a reason why i would need to know the buffer library, but I'm sure theres a reason somehere
L84[00:32:58] <payonel> yeah, and what they are and how they work
L85[00:33:09] <payonel> well
L86[00:33:18] <payonel> did you know you can use file:read("*a") to read the whole file?
L87[00:33:34] <TheFox> not until about 1 hour ago when you told me no
L88[00:33:55] <payonel> right right, and for people not in this channel, just reading the ocdoc docs
L89[00:34:01] <payonel> they'd learn it there, in the buffer api page
L90[00:34:08] <TheFox> ok
L91[00:34:44] <payonel> TheFox: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer
L92[00:34:47] <payonel> reread that opening paragraph
L93[00:34:59] <payonel> during this discussion, and your questions -- i've been trying to make it easier to read
L94[00:35:05] <payonel> inspired by your confusion :)
L95[00:35:25] <Saphire> hmmm
L96[00:35:30] <Saphire> can you rebuild an ELF?
L97[00:35:50] <TheFox> ok
L98[00:35:51] <Saphire> I mean, can you add a dynamic link to a compiled ELF binary?
L99[00:36:05] <TheFox> Saphire: which architecture?
L100[00:36:10] <Saphire> ._.
L101[00:36:19] <TheFox> your not doing what i thought you wher
L102[00:36:21] <Saphire> i don't think that's related
L103[00:36:23] <TheFox> are you
L104[00:36:39] <TheFox> i thought you where doing something else
L105[00:37:00] <TheFox> i was going to give you terminal code for building one for ARM if thats what you where doing
L106[00:37:39] <TheFox> payonel: yup, after our talk i understand it a bit more now, thanks
L107[00:39:43] <TheFox> welp, as i only recently discovered what an elf was ( i mean started learning about them) i can't help you I'm sorry
L108[00:39:46] <Saphire> faaaaaancy
L109[00:39:50] <Saphire> https://github.com/NixOS/patchelf
L110[00:40:45] <TheFox> if you dont mind me asking, what are you doing?
L111[00:41:03] <Saphire> really, storing a freaking X library in a binary?
L112[00:41:08] * Saphire shakes her head
L113[00:41:23] <Saphire> and sdl too...
L114[00:42:36] * TheFox yawns and pretends to know whats going on
L115[00:43:53] * payonel is afk
L116[00:46:00] <TheFox> my code I'm working on is an over complicated mess and I'm sure if i posted it everyone would have something to say about how to make it better, i made it so confusing i can barely tell thats going on anymore XD
L117[00:46:08] <gamax92> Saphire: oooh
L118[00:48:57] <Saphire> why the hell pico8 is so static >.>
L119[00:52:31] <gamax92> Saphire: because Linux libraries are not named the same on all distros nor might not even be the same version
L120[00:53:12] <gamax92> nor are you guaranteed a certain library is even installed
L121[00:54:45] <Temia> The latter is why package managers have dependencies.
L122[00:54:57] <Temia> But it is admittedly an issue.
L123[00:55:33] <TheFox> could i use a for in loop to recover a table from a table inside a file?
L124[00:55:56] <TheFox> its getting deep enough that i can't keep up mentally
L125[00:56:05] <TheFox> my minds exploding slowly
L126[00:56:06] <gamax92> twss
L127[00:56:37] <Temia> Does serialisation not escape the contents of a nested table?
L128[00:57:06] <gamax92> serialization should support tables in tables
L129[00:57:49] <TheFox> ok, so my code right now is for k,v,p in id do (my code is here) end, would this return the nested table?
L130[00:58:06] <Temia> I think you might have overcomplicated things for yourself, Fox.
L131[00:58:11] <TheFox> probably
L132[00:58:29] <TheFox> I'm looking at my code and slowly dying inside
L133[00:58:31] <Temia> Also I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work
L134[00:58:37] <gamax92> I like my binary table serializer, supports recursive references
L135[00:58:48] <TheFox> thats why i wanted to switch to nested tables
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L138[00:59:30] <Antheus> vexavex
L139[00:59:36] <TheFox> i wanted to switch to nested tables so instead of for k,v,p in id do i went back to for k,v in id do
L140[01:00:06] <TheFox> im so confused with what I'm doing
L141[01:02:40] <TheFox> I'm trying to save a ID a port and a key to a file that is formatted like a table
L142[01:03:08] <TheFox> but i guess we can take the port out so i only save the ID and key to a file, theres not need for the port to be there
L143[01:05:22] <TheFox> Temia: if i run my code by you could you tell me if it might work?
L144[01:06:04] <Temia> I'll be honest, my memory with lua is a bit fuzzy and I haven't done anything with it in months, I've been focusing on other pursuits.
L145[01:06:20] <TheFox> ok
L146[01:06:21] <Temia> Just pop open a shell and experiment.
L147[01:06:56] <TheFox> ok then. I'm so lost and its my code I'm lost in, i think i jumped into deep after being inactive for about a year
L148[01:10:58] <TheFox> welp, that brought that to a halt
L149[01:12:16] <TheFox> you where right Telia it didn't work, it said attempt to call a string value
L150[01:12:25] <TheFox> temia sorry not telia
L151[01:14:37] <TheFox> and i just figured out why, i derped
L152[01:14:55] <TheFox> what is the difference between pairs and ipairs?
L153[01:15:09] <Temia> One is deprecated.
L154[01:15:25] <TheFox> which one is that?
L155[01:15:31] <TheFox> pairs?
L156[01:15:38] <Temia> ipairs.
L157[01:16:04] <TheFox> any other difference?
L158[01:16:21] <Temia> Probably.
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L160[01:17:15] <TheFox> aw, come on really, i was told that id = file:read("*a") would make ID a table, i really thought it would but its picking it up as a string
L161[01:17:19] <gamax92> ipairs only does numerical keys and will stop at the first nil
L162[01:18:00] <Temia> You were fed a lie, Fox.
L163[01:18:09] <Temia> You want unserialize.
L164[01:18:52] <TheFox> the funny thing is that it was payonel though? i think it was my fault
L165[01:19:28] <TheFox> so i need to go check out the serial lib huh
L166[01:19:37] <Temia> Probably misinterpreted then, yeah
L167[01:19:42] <gamax92> ~el
L168[01:19:42] <ocdoc> I have 1008 entries (328o/661a/19f) in my DB.
L169[01:20:04] <TheFox> that sounds like plenty...
L170[01:20:11] <TheFox> so doc is a robot?
L171[01:20:27] <TheFox> ok then
L172[01:20:35] <TheFox> learn several things new and its not even 3AM yet
L173[01:20:50] <TheFox> i thought it was just michi and ender
L174[01:23:42] <TheFox> ok then, i just can't seem to get it right, unserialize returned my table to nil
L175[01:24:26] <TheFox> what have i done wrong now, i fed it my string, and it returned me a nil?
L176[01:26:04] <TheFox> Temia?
L177[01:26:33] <Temia> How did you create the table?
L178[01:27:32] <TheFox> id = file:read("*a") id = serialization.unserialize(id)
L179[01:28:23] <TheFox> this should have made ID's var into a table if i not mistaken
L180[01:28:54] <TheFox> let me try something real quick, i won't understand if this fixed it but its worth a show
L181[01:28:57] <TheFox> shot
L182[01:29:40] <TheFox> nope didn't change anything
L183[01:30:34] <TheFox> any ideas
L184[01:32:41] <TheFox> because I'm lost
L185[01:33:30] <TheFox> the thing I'm trying to make a table is formatted like this { "user" = "22", "test" = "35"}
L186[01:34:06] <TheFox> thats how it looks in the file, i was hoping that it would turn out like that once i read it
L187[01:43:52] <Temia> I'm hoping not precisely like that, because then you're kind of mixing up your syntaxes.
L188[01:44:14] <TheFox> its exactly like that
L189[01:44:20] <TheFox> take the "" out?
L190[01:46:37] <TheFox> HAHAHAHHAHAHA, man i am full of mistakes
L191[01:48:57] <TheFox> now i just need to change the values of them
L192[01:54:51] <TheFox> the amount of time this is costing me is debatably worth it, i would air on the side of probably not
L193[01:56:56] <Temia> err, you mean?
L194[01:57:35] <TheFox> which part the change the value or the code is not worth my time
L195[01:57:35] <TheFox> ?
L196[01:58:04] <Temia> "air".
L197[01:58:14] <KR> err
L198[01:58:37] <KR> TheFox is saying whatever they're doing is probably not really worth it, essentially.
L199[01:59:06] <KR> By err I mean the word is "err", not "air"
L200[01:59:09] <TheFox> yes
L201[01:59:38] <TheFox> been typing so long i dont care what i type along as it gets the basic point acress
L202[01:59:44] <TheFox> across
L203[01:59:55] <TheFox> see my point exactly^^^ but that was an accident
L204[02:00:18] <TheFox> Temia: any idea why after it worked i can't do print(id[0]) ?
L205[02:02:30] <TheFox> oh come on, really. i just tested my original code and found out i wrote have in OC, half in CC
L206[02:03:13] <TheFox> im wonderful
L207[02:04:33] <TheFox> so how would one go about changing the a specific value of a table that is a file?
L208[02:04:52] <TheFox> its been a really long time since i have done something like that
L209[02:04:59] <TheFox> REALLY long
L210[02:07:11] <Izaya> squashfs is great
L211[02:07:23] <Izaya> 1.2GB uncompressed, <600M compressed
L212[02:07:34] <TheFox> thats pretty fair
L213[02:08:44] <TheFox> hey Izaya got a quick question if your willing or ready to answer it? its about tables and files
L214[02:08:50] <TheFox> and its a long one
L215[02:09:08] <Izaya> well I'm just testing debian live CDs
L216[02:09:22] <TheFox> oh, ok, nvmd
L217[02:09:30] <Izaya> as in, go for it but my timing may vary
L218[02:09:39] <TheFox> oooooooh
L219[02:11:02] <TheFox> so I'm trying to make a config file pretty much but the program needs to change it overtime a key is remade and it needs to be associated with a user. i have a file setup that can read the keys of all users and supposedly find the user the key belongs to but i need too be able to change that key
L220[02:11:42] <TheFox> does this make since? or would you like me to find another way to explain it?
L221[02:12:19] <Izaya> so you have a config file
L222[02:12:44] <Izaya> and it's for looking up users <-> keys?
L223[02:12:51] <TheFox> i have a file that looks like this {test = 35, user = 20}
L224[02:13:04] <Izaya> and you need to change it?
L225[02:13:13] <TheFox> yes
L226[02:13:22] <TheFox> but only one specific users key
L227[02:13:43] <Izaya> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:serialization this may help
L228[02:14:07] <TheFox> i have that pulled up. I'm using it to read the file
L229[02:14:55] <TheFox> i.e. i want to target test and change his key because its time to make a new one, i dont want to change the key for user though
L230[02:14:55] <Izaya> you can also reserialize and write it to the file
L231[02:16:01] <TheFox> ok, so if i did for k,v in pairs(id) do (my code) end then did v = newkey then serialized it again it would only change the value for test?
L232[02:16:09] <TheFox> if i caught it before it moved to user
L233[02:16:55] <TheFox> one sec
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L235[02:22:36] <TheFox> ok, hangon i didn't expect that , the serialization lib changed my file to a nested Array XD this is the best thing to happen yet
L236[02:22:42] <TheFox> i was wondering if it would
L237[02:23:37] <TheFox> now, if i could only remember how to access its second variable
L238[02:24:34] <Izaya> t[1][2]
L239[02:24:48] <TheFox> yup, i feel really stupid
L240[02:25:22] <TheFox> and i can change that by doing t[1][2] = newkey correct?
L241[02:26:21] <Izaya> yup
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L243[02:26:55] <TheFox> alright, things are starting to work again, sorry for asking such a stupid question, my brain is fired
L244[02:26:58] <TheFox> fried
L245[02:27:04] <Izaya> either way
L246[02:27:43] <TheFox> i guess so
L247[02:27:47] <Izaya> okay, with (hopefully) the installer files
L248[02:27:56] <Izaya> the iso is 600M
L249[02:28:06] <TheFox> thats kinda small
L250[02:28:11] <Izaya> yup
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L253[02:28:15] <Izaya> and it includes a live desktop
L254[02:28:18] <Izaya> do I win?
L255[02:28:22] <TheFox> i guess so
L256[02:28:48] <TheFox> i mean, i dont think i can compress that well
L257[02:29:07] <TheFox> and to write my table back tot eh file i wound unserialize correct>
L258[02:29:44] <Izaya> IT WORKS
L259[02:29:46] <Izaya> I think
L260[02:29:52] <Izaya> oh fuck it even might
L261[02:30:04] <TheFox> i hope it does for your sake
L262[02:30:18] <TheFox> sounds like youve been working on this for a while
L263[02:30:30] <Izaya> only since last night
L264[02:30:33] <Izaya> did you know
L265[02:30:52] <Izaya> exactly 0 current mainstream distros include a livecd version with a desktop?
L266[02:31:35] <TheFox> um no
L267[02:31:46] <Izaya> as such I have to build my own
L268[02:31:49] <Izaya> also fuck it lacks a bunch of stuff
L269[02:31:56] <TheFox> what do you mean by that?
L270[02:31:57] <Izaya> okay let's see what a normal netinst CD contains
L271[02:32:04] <Izaya> so distros have live versions
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L273[02:32:10] <TheFox> yes ik that
L274[02:32:11] <Izaya> but they're all >700M
L275[02:32:15] <TheFox> yes
L276[02:32:18] <Izaya> I have about 150 CDs
L277[02:32:20] <Izaya> CD-ROMs
L278[02:32:22] <Izaya> 700M
L279[02:32:28] <Izaya> and I want to stick Linux on them
L280[02:32:32] <Izaya> to give away
L281[02:32:40] <TheFox> that does sound like a problen
L282[02:32:46] <Izaya> as such I'm rolling my own
L283[02:33:43] <TheFox> well, congrats
L284[02:36:39] <TheFox> hmm. yet another problem
L285[02:37:23] <TheFox> its only catching one of the 2 tables
L286[02:39:12] <TheFox> and i think ik why
L287[02:40:12] <TheFox> guess not
L288[02:40:42] <TheFox> any ideas? ill paste the code if you want.
L289[02:42:32] <Antheus> Izaya put windows ME on one of them
L290[02:46:09] <TheFox> Antheus: could you lend me a hand while Izaya does his thing, the problem went from a lot to a little very fast and i just have one question now. its probably me missing something stupid but i can't get this table to store the two tables I'm feeding it
L291[02:47:49] <Antheus> I suck at tables
L292[02:47:58] <Antheus> like, really bad
L293[02:48:16] <TheFox> same here, guess where in the same boat
L294[02:50:12] <TheFox> welp i guess ill check tomorrow its 4 AM over here
L295[02:50:47] * TheFox goes is now AFK, rolls over and goes to sleep for the next 2 hours all just to get up and go to work
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L298[03:06:16] <Antheus> wowzers
L299[03:06:25] <Antheus> I just realized that there is a note API
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L301[03:15:51] <asie> what note API what
L302[03:16:14] <Vexatos> ~w note API
L303[03:16:14] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:note
L304[03:16:18] <Vexatos> asie ^
L305[03:16:23] <Vexatos> Antheus, you like it? :>
L306[03:16:46] <Antheus> yep
L307[03:17:34] <Vexatos> yay :D
L308[03:17:45] <Antheus> :D
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L311[03:34:42] <Antheus> Hmm
L312[03:34:50] <Antheus> I think I know how I'm going to do this..
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L314[03:36:03] <Saphire> http://www.xkcd.com/686/
L315[03:36:03] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Admin Mourning Posted on: 1/8/2010
L316[03:36:20] <Saphire> I wonder if there are any IRC idlers like that
L317[03:36:32] <Antheus> have a folder with different files (10_example.lua) and have the program get the required information from those files, then one by one, send the information in a format that the EEPROM billboards can read
L318[03:36:44] <Antheus> then wait a predetermned time before sending the next one, then do so
L319[03:37:29] <Antheus> and a person can run "billboard update", which will update it's database or something and make it add the new files to the billboard thingy"
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L322[03:47:07] <Inari> o/
L323[03:47:13] * Antheus kills Inari
L324[03:47:18] <Inari> D:
L325[03:47:24] <Inari> what have i ever done to you
L326[03:47:34] <Antheus> Found my username
L327[03:50:08] <Inari> what
L328[03:50:35] <Antheus> Your book of european gods or whatever
L329[03:50:51] <Inari> what?
L330[03:50:57] <Antheus> .-.
L331[03:51:23] <Inari> i have no clue wth youj're talking about XD
L332[03:51:28] <Antheus> nvm
L333[03:51:32] <Antheus> it was a looooong time ago
L334[03:51:32] <Inari> D:
L335[03:51:35] <Inari> tell me
L336[03:51:48] <Antheus> no
L337[03:51:49] <Antheus> never
L338[03:51:54] <Inari> ¬.¬
L339[03:51:57] * Inari kills Antheus
L340[03:52:05] <Antheus> What did I ever do to you?
L341[03:52:10] <Inari> didnt tell me
L342[03:52:24] <Antheus> *triggered*
L343[03:56:19] <Izaya> hey Inari
L344[03:56:22] <Izaya> if you kill him
L345[03:56:27] <Izaya> he can't tell you
L346[03:56:35] <Inari> he alreadt refused to tell me
L347[03:56:38] <Inari> thus he lost his value
L348[03:56:38] <Inari> :F
L349[03:56:59] <Antheus> .-.
L350[03:59:57] <Temia> Despite seeing only half this conversation, it doesn't seem like I'm missing anything interesting >.>
L351[04:01:27] <Izaya> IT WORKS
L352[04:01:34] <Izaya> debian installer live CD works
L353[04:01:36] <Izaya> in 650M
L354[04:01:44] <Temia> Oh, nice o:
L355[04:01:58] <Izaya> you get lxde, qupzilla, and the debian installer
L356[04:02:40] <Izaya> need to do a little tweaking to make gksu work properly
L357[04:03:20] <Antheus> ~w filesystem api
L358[04:03:20] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L359[04:03:25] <Izaya> okay not quite yet
L360[04:04:01] <Temia> I admit I don't really mind CLI environments for installers, myself.
L361[04:04:15] <Izaya> I normally use CLI for installation too
L362[04:04:18] <Antheus> .-.
L363[04:04:19] <Izaya> however these are to hand out
L364[04:04:23] <Temia> Ah!
L365[04:04:32] <Temia> That changes everything, yes.
L366[04:05:20] <Izaya> you see the issue
L367[04:05:34] <Izaya> is that no current distros offer a livecd version
L368[04:05:38] <Izaya> they all require >700M
L369[04:06:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, uuuuh
L370[04:06:25] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar why does the componentinventory's hasCapability convert global to local facing?
L371[04:06:27] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L372[04:06:46] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar Makes it kind of impossible to do stuff based on getTileEntity(getPos().offset(side))
L373[04:06:46] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L374[04:07:04] <Temia> Yeah, I admit I was astonished by how even Arch broke the 700MB limit
L375[04:08:59] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar side = host instanceof Rotatable ? ((Rotatable) host).toGlobal(side): side; >_>
L376[04:09:00] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L377[04:12:21] <Inari> itty bitty izzy lizzy
L378[04:13:38] <Antheus> no
L379[04:14:00] <Temia> ?
L380[04:24:14] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/koLLb.jpg
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L384[04:40:48] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/geV0zhI.png >.>
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L386[04:54:19] <Izaya> it installs with some work
L387[04:56:35] <Izaya> ... okay, but GRUB doesn't install properly
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L389[05:04:10] <Izaya> I could just make a thing telling people to reboot to install
L390[05:04:36] <Izaya> But giving up easily isn't my style
L391[05:10:38] <Izaya> 661M, cutting it close
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L393[05:23:28] <Inari> ~ocdoc
L394[05:23:28] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.
L395[05:26:53] <Vexatos> %tell asie http://git.io/vo2Xk
L396[05:26:55] <MichiBot> Vexatos: asie will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L403[06:04:05] <Inari> robots cant sort peoples inventory last i read
L404[06:04:07] <Inari> pls wiki
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L408[06:21:06] <asie> Vexatos: >Made sound card work with cables and speakers without Charset.
L409[06:21:09] <asie> yoooooooou
L410[06:24:01] <Inari> lol
L411[06:25:20] <Inari> theres this odd point, where a song that you love and thats stuck in your head turns annoying despite you still loving it lol
L412[06:32:06] <Vexatos> asie, charset is dead, remember?
L413[06:32:15] <Vexatos> deader even than RIPutronics
L414[06:32:18] <Vexatos> deaderer
L415[06:32:21] <Vexatos> deadererererer
L416[06:32:27] <Vexatos> so yea
L417[06:32:37] <Vexatos> Don't blame me ;)
L418[06:34:23] <asie> :^)
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L422[06:42:19] * Lizzy sighs happily
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L433[07:42:20] <LiveCube> so
L434[07:42:26] <LiveCube> trying out KDE Plasma
L435[07:42:34] * LiveCube wonders if he can get rid of the crappy light theme
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L443[08:14:15] <Mimiru> fmfl... I woke up an hour and 15 minutes late
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L445[08:16:02] <Lizzy> :/
L446[08:16:52] <Mimiru> I can still make it to work..l.. just don't get my nice wakeup buffer...
L447[08:19:35] <LiveCube> ?
L448[08:19:41] <LiveCube> ~oclogs
L449[08:19:42] <Inari> they woke up 1h15m late
L450[08:19:43] <Inari> :p
L451[08:19:48] <Lizzy> %oclogs
L452[08:19:50] <MichiBot> Lizzy: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
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L456[08:34:35] <Izaya> next genius plan: add live image to existing netinst CD
L457[08:35:34] <Inari> why cant i make new folder in eos D:
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L459[08:41:43] <Inari> eye contact, noun, the act of physically touching another's eyes with your own
L460[08:41:58] <Kimiro> Right now.
L461[08:42:01] <Kimiro> In this moment.
L462[08:42:08] <Kimiro> I feel utterly hollow.
L463[08:42:49] <Skye> Inari: Lewd
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L474[09:36:45] <Inari> im so confuse dlol
L475[09:37:45] <Forecaster> porkchops
L476[09:38:02] <Inari> isnt't "ls -la | less" supposed to work?
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L478[09:39:05] <Inari> oh
L479[09:39:21] <Inari> it does indeed work :P
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L483[09:44:08] <gamax92> mmm
L484[09:44:57] <Inari> ...
L485[09:45:05] <Inari> i dont get how i do this whit links :f
L486[09:45:45] <Inari> ah
L487[09:45:47] <Inari> there we go <.<
L488[09:46:52] <Inari> yeahh
L489[09:46:56] <Inari> i still dont get iut
L490[09:47:22] <Inari> apparentl ln -s /mnt/4ec/bin/* /bin worked to put all files from the floppy into the bin dir
L491[09:47:25] <Inari> but now i mad ea new file on floppy
L492[09:47:28] <Inari> and its not in teh bin dir
L493[09:47:34] <Inari> and i cant repeat the command cause "file already exists"
L494[09:48:49] <Inari> even with -f it doesnt want to
L495[09:48:50] <Inari> :<
L496[09:52:33] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8d3bW42aFY still so good
L497[09:52:34] <MichiBot> TVアニメ「坂本ですが?」ノンテロップOP | length: 1m 31s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 905073 | by KING RECORDS
L498[09:57:15] <gamax92> >_> Inari.
L499[09:57:58] <gamax92> if linking everything doesn't work again, have you tried only linking in the new things you added?
L500[09:58:15] <Inari> no because that makes it pointless :P
L501[09:58:38] <Inari> it supposed to do this automatically anyway <.<
L502[09:59:23] <gamax92> I mean as soon as you remove the floppy all the links will die
L503[09:59:59] <Inari> yeah, but im not removin gteh floppy xD
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L505[10:01:23] <Inari> gamax92: i just want all the files of /mnt/4ec/bin to always be in /bin/
L506[10:01:23] <Izaya> anyone want to place bets as to whether this will go over the cap or not?
L507[10:01:40] <Inari> Izaya: ?
L508[10:01:53] <Izaya> making a debian netinst+live image to fit on a CD
L509[10:02:02] <Izaya> think installing LXDE will push it over the cap?
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L511[10:02:43] <LiveCube> yes
L512[10:03:18] <TheCryptek> %tell TheFox Sorry I wasn't on yesterday, I was busy studying the revolutionary war.
L513[10:03:19] <MichiBot> TheCryptek: TheFox will be notified of this message when next seen.
L514[10:03:58] <Izaya> if I get rid of a) the graphical installer and b) the xen kernel that could work
L515[10:04:04] <Izaya> well, kernel + ramdisk
L516[10:04:19] <Izaya> let's try without the xen kernel first
L517[10:04:37] <Izaya> if that isn't enough I'll drop the graphical installer too
L518[10:04:53] <gamax92> Izaya: remember to use amazeballs compression
L519[10:05:24] <Izaya> gamax92: which one is best for a squashfs?
L520[10:05:41] <Izaya> I could probably recompress the initrds as well
L521[10:05:50] * gamax92 shrugs
L522[10:06:09] <TheCryptek> Is MichiBot Limnoria?
L523[10:06:10] <vifino> apply all the upx
L524[10:07:04] <Izaya> right it's way over the cap
L525[10:07:05] <Izaya> >.>
L526[10:07:27] <Izaya> 730M too much
L527[10:07:56] <LiveCube> wmaker?
L528[10:08:06] <vifino> Izaya: find -type f /usr/bin | xargs upx --best --lzma
L529[10:08:11] <Izaya> I could get rid of /doc and /tools and probably the windows stuff
L530[10:08:44] <gamax92> vifino: --ultra-brute :>
L531[10:08:56] <vifino> naw.
L532[10:09:01] <gamax92> :<
L533[10:09:11] <vifino> That would take a couple hours.
L534[10:09:23] <Temia> vifino --ultra-cute
L535[10:09:42] <vifino> Izaya: make sure to run find -type f | xargs strip --strip-all before that
L536[10:09:46] <vifino> :3
L537[10:09:53] <gamax92> Well ... then ...
L538[10:10:26] * gamax92 retreats and goes to play Speedball 2
L539[10:10:28] * vifino ultra-cutes at Temia
L540[10:10:45] * Temia squee <3
L541[10:11:02] * Temia hmms. Tries to pass --ultra-cute to Gamax
L542[10:11:31] * gamax92 Buffer underruns
L543[10:11:40] <Temia> oops. ._.
L544[10:12:38] <Izaya> 696.2MiB :o
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L546[10:13:29] * gamax92 gives Temia an empty book
L547[10:14:32] * Temia .3.
L548[10:14:46] * Temia ... gives it and a set of crayons to Vifino
L549[10:15:02] <vifino> '.'
L550[10:16:35] <Izaya> 713M >.>
L551[10:16:55] <Temia> You can do it, Izaya!
L552[10:16:58] <Izaya> I have LXDE, xorg, and the most minimal base system possible installed
L553[10:17:03] <TheCryptek> In the OC config file is there a way to give more space to the hard drives and disks?
L554[10:18:13] <Izaya> welp I guess this set won't work
L555[10:18:18] <Izaya> LXDE is too big
L556[10:20:24] <vifino> wmutils for the rescue!
L557[10:20:35] * Izaya avoids
L558[10:20:44] <vifino> How dare you!?
L559[10:20:52] <Izaya> either way, wmutils isn't really something you hand out
L560[10:21:04] <vifino> bspwn?
L561[10:21:13] <Izaya> I want something that isn't obtuse
L562[10:21:16] <vifino> bspwm?*
L563[10:21:23] <vifino> i3-gaps?
L564[10:21:26] <Izaya> ...
L565[10:21:37] <Izaya> maybe I'll poke at like
L566[10:21:38] <Izaya> jwm
L567[10:21:50] * Izaya laughs manically
L568[10:21:52] <Izaya> the live session
L569[10:21:53] <Izaya> can include
L570[10:21:55] <Izaya> mlvwm
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L572[10:22:34] <kreezxil> in the 1.9.4 builds, is pastebin not enabled? (it appears to be as the command is missing), and can it be enabled somehow?
L573[10:22:51] <Izaya> I believe it's on a loot disk now
L574[10:23:08] <Izaya> 348971 extents written (681 MB)
L575[10:23:09] <Izaya> YES
L576[10:23:20] <Izaya> now I just have to test it
L577[10:23:28] * Izaya may have removed something from /pool
L578[10:23:46] <Temia> Kreezxil, is this after crafting the driver disk?
L579[10:24:07] <gamax92> kreezxil: cards no longer contain their software on them and instead use separate floppy disks
L580[10:24:24] <vifino> Izaya: Not enough i3, 0/10.
L581[10:24:37] <Izaya> vifino: too much ricing, -1/10
L582[10:24:51] <Izaya> s/ricing/rice/g
L583[10:24:51] <MichiBot> <Izaya> vifino: too much rice, -1/10
L584[10:24:54] <vifino> There is no such thing as "too much ricing".
L585[10:24:55] * Inari pelts Lizzy with rice
L586[10:25:04] * vifino stares at Inari
L587[10:25:26] <kreezxil> what's weird is everytime I boot into my world, disks are vanish, at first it listed all the floppies, now it just lists the blank one.
L588[10:25:30] <Izaya> step 1: does the live session work sanely?
L589[10:25:40] <Izaya> lightdm starts
L590[10:25:46] <vifino> no, not enough ricing
L591[10:25:54] <Izaya> lxde starts
L592[10:25:57] <Izaya> with an error
L593[10:26:39] <Izaya> non-fatal
L594[10:26:47] <Izaya> it just tries to run something to do with policykit
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L596[10:46:20] <gamax92> "BogoMIPS : 13.50"
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L598[10:58:20] <Arguile> Is the mighty pirates OpenComputers tutorial completely outdated, or can I still watch it and achieve something with OC?
L599[10:58:49] <gamax92> I've never watched any of their tutorials ... hmm
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L601[11:04:23] <payonel> they made really good tutorials
L602[11:04:28] <payonel> the 1.5 ones are great
L603[11:04:33] <payonel> i seriously hope they do another set for 1.6
L604[11:04:45] <Inari> payonel: teach me how to linux this :D
L605[11:04:51] <payonel> Arguile: but if you watch the 1.5 ones, you'll know a LOT about what is going on in oc
L606[11:04:56] <payonel> Inari: ! HI
L607[11:05:00] <payonel> welcome to saturday
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L609[11:07:18] <gamax92> how may I take your order
L610[11:07:32] <Forecaster> I wanna burger!
L611[11:08:00] <Inari> gamax92: one cheese plain please
L612[11:09:09] <Arguile> How does one burger?
L613[11:09:51] <Forecaster> do you want to know? :P
L614[11:10:47] <payonel> Inari: what is it that you want to linux?
L615[11:11:27] <Inari> payonel: i want the system to act as if /mnt/4ec/bin/ files are in /bin/ and same for lib... so i can have my /bin/ and /lib/ files on a floppy and have them in one place to edit them..
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L617[11:13:53] <Skye> Inari, why?
L618[11:14:01] <Skye> that's how the old magic FSes worked
L619[11:14:39] <Inari> Skye: so i can just add that folder to my sublime project and not have all the openos bin files that id ont care about :P
L620[11:14:46] <payonel> Inari: so you want to see /mnt/4ec/bin/ files when you look in /bin/, and you want to see /mnt/4ec/lib/ files when you look in /lib/
L621[11:14:56] <gamax92> Skye: https://xkcd.com/1172/
L622[11:14:59] <payonel> as well as all the other files that were there anyways?
L623[11:15:00] <Inari> payonel: yeah, and for the OS to use that of course
L624[11:15:06] <Inari> payonel: yeah
L625[11:15:21] <payonel> we used to achieve that with symbolic links
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L627[11:15:44] <Inari> used to?
L628[11:15:55] <payonel> well, i mean, with loot disks
L629[11:16:08] <payonel> the loot disks would 'automount' their files by sym linking them to /bin and /lib
L630[11:16:11] <payonel> it was a common pattern we used
L631[11:16:19] <Inari> well i tried, but it doesnt seem to actaulyl link the directroy :P i.e. when i made a new file, it wasnt in /bin/
L632[11:16:27] <payonel> no not loot disks, i mean components
L633[11:16:31] <payonel> with their magic fs
L634[11:16:47] <payonel> Inari: yeah, and that is expected
L635[11:16:55] <payonel> are you going to have a lot of different floppies?
L636[11:16:57] <payonel> or just one?
L637[11:16:59] <Inari> one
L638[11:17:57] <payonel> there are two ways to do this
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L640[11:18:27] <payonel> we can write a script that will sym links your files
L641[11:18:41] <payonel> or we can edit the $PATH (for bin files) and package.path (for lib files)
L642[11:19:20] <payonel> the 2nd option doesn't actually make any files or links, and your /bin is untouched
L643[11:19:24] <payonel> have a preference?
L644[11:19:27] <Inari> and that will work with just writing "blah" to start "blah.lua" and using require?
L645[11:19:33] <payonel> yes
L646[11:19:57] <Inari> well since i dont know a way to watch files in this, the second seems better :P else it so udn i have to rerun the script each time i put a file
L647[11:21:05] <payonel> well we could also put the auto linking solution in the .autorun of the floppy
L648[11:21:16] <payonel> but, the 2nd option we could just drop in your ~/.shrc
L649[11:21:29] <payonel> which is run each time you boot your computer
L650[11:22:09] <Inari> sounds good :P still have to figure out .shrc haha
L651[11:22:26] <payonel> Inari: are you in /home? if so, run `l -a`
L652[11:22:36] <Michiyo> %test
L653[11:22:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L654[11:22:45] <Michiyo> o_O
L655[11:22:53] <Michiyo> k
L656[11:22:55] <payonel> %flip o_O
L657[11:22:55] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°)╯︵O‾o
L658[11:23:01] <Inari> whats that odd :P
L659[11:23:04] <Inari> you expected it to fail?
L660[11:23:10] <payonel> Inari: fail? .....
L661[11:23:11] <Michiyo> Actually...
L662[11:23:12] <payonel> no
L663[11:23:23] <payonel> Inari: l the letter l ?
L664[11:23:26] <payonel> as in, ls
L665[11:23:30] <Inari> Michiyo: i mean the %test
L666[11:23:31] <Inari> :p
L667[11:23:31] <payonel> but l is short for ls -l
L668[11:23:33] <gamax92> payonel: Inari is talking to Michiyo
L669[11:23:34] <payonel> Inari: oh
L670[11:23:47] * payonel
L671[11:24:03] <Inari> says .shrc
L672[11:24:03] <Inari> :p
L673[11:24:18] <payonel> Inari: that's the file we want to edit, we'll add a couple lines to it
L674[11:24:41] <Inari> Lizzy: all this "we" makes me feel molested already :f
L675[11:24:48] <Inari> j/k
L676[11:24:51] <Inari> anyway
L677[11:24:52] <payonel> this solution isn't fully robust :) let me know if you'd like a util for this later, we can make a smarter script for reuse later if you want
L678[11:25:37] <payonel> `edit .shrc` and in there you should see 4 lines already i think
L679[11:25:42] <Inari> yep
L680[11:25:51] <payonel> after those lines add a new one
L681[11:26:00] <payonel> set PATH="$PATH:/mnt/4ec"
L682[11:26:05] <payonel> the double quotes are important
L683[11:26:12] <payonel> then another line
L684[11:26:14] <payonel> um
L685[11:26:19] <Inari> not /bin?
L686[11:26:21] * Saphire boops Inari o..o
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L688[11:26:27] <payonel> Inari: oh yeah, /bin
L689[11:26:32] <payonel> /mnt/4ec/bin
L690[11:26:38] <Inari> yeah xD
L691[11:26:48] * Inari boobps Saphire
L692[11:26:49] <payonel> but i dont have a command line tool to edit package.path
L693[11:26:50] <payonel> :/
L694[11:26:57] <Inari> haha
L695[11:27:01] <payonel> um
L696[11:27:02] <Inari> well can make ti run a script
L697[11:27:03] <Inari> :3
L698[11:27:05] <gamax92> >_>;;
L699[11:27:07] <payonel> yeah
L700[11:27:12] <gamax92> "d????????? ? ? ? ? ?" great directory permissions.
L701[11:27:20] <payonel> ha, gamax92 :)
L702[11:27:44] <payonel> Inari: so add something like /home/4ec_libs.lua
L703[11:27:48] <payonel> or whatever you want of course
L704[11:28:26] <payonel> and in that all you need is package.path=package.path .. ";/mnt/4ec/lib/?.lua"
L705[11:28:26] <Saphire> gamax92: definitely no permissions
L706[11:30:20] <payonel> Inari: btw, to be clear, the PATH delimiter was a colon :
L707[11:30:27] <payonel> and the package.path delimiter is a semicolon ;
L708[11:30:33] <Inari> payonel: seems to work :3 thanks
L709[11:30:36] <payonel> jusst in case what was unclear in the chat font
L710[11:30:41] <payonel> Inari: ok cool
L711[11:30:53] <Inari> need to come up with a better way someday
L712[11:30:57] <Inari> is there a way to watch directories and files?
L713[11:31:10] <payonel> definitely, there is a component_added event
L714[11:31:18] <Lizzy> ?
L715[11:31:20] <Inari> well i mean
L716[11:31:21] <payonel> and you can filter by filesystems
L717[11:31:22] <Inari> files themselves
L718[11:31:26] <Inari> not whole components
L719[11:31:41] <gamax92> s/ps/s/
L720[11:31:41] <MichiBot> <Inari> *** boobs Saphire
L721[11:31:41] <payonel> Inari: no, there is no event for new files
L722[11:31:47] <Inari> hm
L723[11:32:03] <payonel> nor new dirs, nor mounted filesystems, just new components added
L724[11:32:05] <Inari> seems like something that woudl be useful
L725[11:32:08] <Inari> gamax92: dont make it lewd!
L726[11:32:16] <gamax92> I'm using a posixovl and all of the chown's fail to work :/
L727[11:32:42] <Inari> i just know there are tools that watch for if a file changes... and i dont thinkt ehy do so by constantly polling the file
L728[11:32:47] <gamax92> and chmod
L729[11:32:54] <gamax92> wtf was the point of using an overlay >_>
L730[11:33:15] *** Tiktalik is now known as Tiktalik|GoneFishing
L731[11:33:24] <Inari> Tiktalik|GoneFishing: o.o
L732[11:34:05] <Inari> oh neat
L733[11:34:12] <Inari> holoprojectors cant acta s holoscreens :D
L734[11:34:41] <Inari> i feel like what i said doesnt make much sense
L735[11:34:43] <Inari> but i know what i mean!
L736[11:34:56] <Forecaster> what do you mean?
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L738[11:35:26] <Inari> basically that if you encase them they still have visible projection, but it looksl ike its on the wall
L739[11:35:27] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_Ka8Hp
L740[11:36:20] <Forecaster> ooh, that's neat
L741[11:36:49] <Inari> i know :D
L742[11:37:03] <jojotastic777> That looks really neet.
L743[11:37:36] <Inari> seems i get the best ideas when i just randomyl mess around and stumble across neat stuff haha
L744[11:37:46] <Forecaster> who knew?
L745[11:37:47] <jojotastic777> lol.
L746[11:37:47] <Forecaster> :P
L747[11:38:14] <Inari> i think thats how most graet invention were made anyway
L748[11:38:26] <Forecaster> that or mistakes :P
L749[11:38:56] <Forecaster> "mistakes were made!! oh hey cool, a new invention!"
L750[11:39:20] <jojotastic777> More or less.
L751[11:40:06] <Forecaster> that or "mistakes were made!! my face in on fire aaaaaah!"
L752[11:40:56] <Inari> so
L753[11:41:10] <Inari> whats a technology we developed without copying nature, or getting form mistakes? :P
L754[11:41:10] <jojotastic777> Example: several artificial sweeteners: "oops, I just ate that funky lab spill. Heh, that actually tastes kinda good!"
L755[11:41:24] <Forecaster> the wheel :p
L756[11:42:25] <Forecaster> Inari: ^
L757[11:43:43] <Inari> hm would love to know how it came about, but seems its so far in the past we can onl speculate :P
L758[11:43:55] <payonel> Inari: how is the other wiki?
L759[11:43:58] <Inari> thouhg im skeptical
L760[11:44:00] <payonel> tested its markup?
L761[11:44:04] <Forecaster> I'm pretty sure neither plants nor animals have wheels :P
L762[11:44:05] <gamax92> Hi locked up browser
L763[11:44:16] <Inari> payonel: its starting out :P need to look into how to install Scribunto so i can install NAvbox userscript thouhg :f
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L765[11:44:20] <Inari> Forecaster: sure
L766[11:44:27] <Inari> Forecaster: but a round boulder rolls down the hills
L767[11:44:29] <gamax92> uuuuugh that cpu overhead though.
L768[11:44:43] <gamax92> mount.ntfs-3g such high cpu usage
L769[11:44:51] <gamax92> mount.posixovl such high cpu usage
L770[11:44:52] <Forecaster> I guess :P
L771[11:44:55] <Inari> haha
L772[11:45:07] <Inari> payonel: its formatting is obvously good though :P
L773[11:45:09] <Inari> its mediawiki
L774[11:45:31] <gamax92> all cause I'm out of space on my main tiny drive
L775[11:45:46] * Saphire collapses
L776[11:45:48] <Saphire> help Q_Q
L777[11:45:52] <payonel> Inari: i just spent 4 minutes adding a code example for a method
L778[11:45:53] * Saphire is bored extremely
L779[11:46:01] <payonel> Inari: 30s to write the example
L780[11:46:16] <payonel> :) guess what the other 3.5 minutes was for?
L781[11:46:24] * Skye pokes Saphire
L782[11:46:25] <Inari> haha
L783[11:46:38] <Inari> payonel: well you still have to kget used to the wikis format too of course
L784[11:46:41] <Inari> but i find it much better
L785[11:46:48] <Inari> time for a bath anyway~
L786[11:46:56] * Saphire falls over and dies
L787[11:46:57] <payonel> Inari: but
L788[11:47:03] <payonel> Inari: it's not the markup i dont understand
L789[11:47:13] <payonel> it's ... that it doesns't respect the markup consistently
L790[11:47:15] <payonel> that's what erks me
L791[11:47:22] * Saphire shakes payonel
L792[11:47:24] <payonel> anywho, enjoy your bath
L793[11:47:25] * Skye tries to revive Saphire
L794[11:47:26] <Inari> yeah i think mediawiki is pretty consistent about it
L795[11:47:27] <Saphire> do you need crappy code?
L796[11:47:31] <gamax92> Saphire: what do you need
L797[11:47:33] <payonel> Saphire: :/
L798[11:47:33] * Forecaster porps Saphire against a wall and zaps with wand of necromancy
L799[11:47:39] <Forecaster> props*
L800[11:48:10] * Saphire wants to do /anything/ Q_Q
L801[11:48:44] <Skye> Saphire, how is your IRC bot going?
L802[11:49:12] <Saphire> dunno
L803[11:49:41] <Forecaster> it's got a mind of it's own :D
L804[11:50:14] zsh sets mode: +v on LordFokas
L805[11:50:15] <gamax92> posixovl can't change permissions/ownership of a folder >_>
L806[11:50:38] <Saphire> tbh i dunno if i should finish it
L807[11:50:45] <Saphire> who /needs/ it, really?
L808[11:50:53] <Saphire> i mean, the one i have right now is workig
L809[11:51:01] * Saphire sighs
L810[11:51:02] * Skye tries to think of things
L811[11:51:15] <Saphire> it's 18th today...
L812[11:51:26] <Saphire> yay, 2 months and 12 days of /more/ boredom
L813[11:51:41] <Saphire> maybe i will actually try to finish something
L814[11:51:49] <Saphire> "later"
L815[11:52:04] * Saphire could try to laugh but doesn't wants to..
L816[11:52:46] <Forecaster> what's in 2 months and 12 days?
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L818[11:52:56] <gamax92> end of break
L819[11:53:01] <Saphire> ^
L820[11:53:14] <Forecaster> ah, mine starts next week :3
L821[11:53:26] <Forecaster> I'll have more time for my mod and other projects :D
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L823[11:54:32] <Forecaster> http://mcptato.deviantart.com/art/090-Hive-Mind-616133209
L824[11:54:34] <Forecaster> beeees
L825[11:54:43] <gamax92> Forecaster: tears
L826[11:54:57] <Saphire> Forecaster: give me ideas q-q
L827[11:55:11] * Saphire clings to any/everyone
L828[11:55:22] <Forecaster> I want a mod that adds a campfire!
L829[11:56:03] <alexbuzzbee> Forecaster: I think there is one.
L830[11:56:15] <Forecaster> I know, I didn't like it
L831[11:56:41] <gamax92> ~give Saphire idea
L832[11:56:41] * ocdoc gives Saphire an idea
L833[11:56:53] <Wiiplay123> I just found a way to tell a normal turtle from a turtle with tools
L834[11:57:00] <Wiiplay123> hasTag will be false on a normal one, but one with tools will be true
L835[11:57:26] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: wrong channel.
L836[11:57:37] <Saphire> lol
L837[11:57:37] <Wiiplay123> OR IS IT
L838[11:57:41] <gamax92> it is.
L839[11:57:46] <alexbuzzbee> 'Turtle?'
L840[11:57:50] <Wiiplay123> ComputerCraft doesn't even have a hasTag function
L841[11:57:53] <Wiiplay123> :P
L842[11:57:55] <Saphire> >hasTag
L843[11:57:58] <gamax92> so?
L844[11:58:00] <Saphire> wat is that
L845[11:58:01] <alexbuzzbee> Then 'Robot.'
L846[11:58:10] <Saphire> there are no turtles
L847[11:58:15] <Saphire> only robots
L848[11:58:20] <Wiiplay123> component.inventory_controller.getStackInSlot(number).hasTag
L849[11:58:23] <Saphire> (and drones)
L850[11:59:58] <Wiiplay123> I'm saying that on an OpenComputers robot, you can tell the difference between a computercraft turtle with and without tools
L851[12:00:07] <alexbuzzbee> Ah.
L852[12:00:28] <Wiiplay123> Which will be important to not mix up the turtles i'm using as crafting components and the ones I'm using as mining drones
L853[12:00:55] <Saphire> ._.
L854[12:01:02] <Saphire> you're mad
L855[12:01:12] <Saphire> *crazy
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L858[12:02:26] <Wiiplay123> MUAHAHAHAHA NOBODY CAN STOP ME *lightning flash*
L859[12:02:35] <gamax92> /ignore Wiiplay123 all
L860[12:03:37] <Lizzy> Tiktalik|GoneFishing, just a fyi, only the ops can see your chat messages because your nick is long enough to hit the quiet
L861[12:04:04] <gamax92> haha.
L862[12:04:11] <Saphire> yay
L863[12:04:15] <DaMachinator> how many chars does it have to be to hit the cap
L864[12:04:22] <Lizzy> err
L865[12:04:42] <Lizzy> 19
L866[12:04:51] <DaMachinator> i'm in no trouble, then
L867[12:04:55] <Lizzy> 19 or more will get quieted
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L869[12:05:09] <vifino> Izaya: Do you have space on your cd for sub-700kb?
L870[12:05:22] <vifino> Might as well put another linux distro on it.
L871[12:05:47] <gamax92> ultra-useless-linux-distro?
L872[12:05:56] <vifino> a-Linux.
L873[12:06:14] <alexbuzzbee> Does anyone have something interesting running on OCMIPS?
L874[12:06:31] <vifino> An asmutils project. It includes a 532 byte http server.
L875[12:06:59] <alexbuzzbee> vifino: 532 BYTES?
L876[12:07:02] <alexbuzzbee> For http?
L877[12:07:03] * Lizzy writes "48 days" on the wall
L878[12:07:05] <vifino> Yes.
L879[12:07:09] <vifino> Lizzy: :3
L880[12:07:21] <gamax92> must not be very compliant
L881[12:07:31] <vifino> alexbuzzbee: http://asm.sourceforge.net/asmutils.html
L882[12:07:32] <Mayonne> 532 bytes? why are ppl so surprised
L883[12:07:33] <Skye> Lizzy, vifino: eh?
L884[12:07:37] <Lizzy> :3
L885[12:07:40] <Mayonne> http doesnt require much code to handle
L886[12:07:40] <vifino> Seeekrit.
L887[12:07:43] <Mayonne> ez stuff
L888[12:08:30] <gamax92> om nom nom
L889[12:08:36] <gamax92> vifino: sshd vs dropbear
L890[12:08:43] <vifino> sshd
L891[12:09:04] <vifino> more compliant, more fully featured.
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L893[12:09:24] <vifino> but depends on what device you are talking about, though.
L894[12:09:37] <gamax92> ArchLinuxARM on a phone :P
L895[12:09:56] <gamax92> I've given up trying to get freedreno working on the newer xorg, no idea what that's all about, but just gonna use the older version.
L896[12:10:32] <vifino> Try dropbear, most sshd stuff helps in multi-user scenarios. Plus, with the bastardized linux kernel, you can basically do nothing except when running as root.
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L898[12:11:15] <vifino> Like, no networking of any sort without running as root.
L899[12:11:32] <gamax92> vifino: oh well, it'll be on a linux kernel, not on the android kernel
L900[12:11:46] <vifino> Oh?
L901[12:11:51] <gamax92> and yes I know the android kernel is built from a linux kernel, doesn't mean the config is at all the same
L902[12:12:00] <vifino> You actually managed to boot a not bastardized linux kernel?
L903[12:12:05] <vifino> Whoa, tell me more!
L904[12:14:06] <gamax92> vifino: I've not actually gotten around to compiling one myself but, from looking at /proc/config.gz it's very much not built with all the android silliness, like /dev/fb0 is in the right place and lacks android's paranoid networking and etc etc
L905[12:14:35] <LiveCube> no selinux?
L906[12:14:41] <scj643> what up vifino
L907[12:14:49] <gamax92> uhh, lemme check
L908[12:15:29] <vifino> gamax92: What kernel did you use? And what device? Because cyanogenmod has that damn fucked up kernel. :/
L909[12:16:42] <gamax92> vifino: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/devs-only/unofficial-port-archlinuxarm-release-t2969290 (ignore url, it's a d2lte based phone, Samsung Galaxy S3)
L910[12:17:11] <Wiiplay123> What's the problem with just compiling linux for MIPS?
L911[12:17:19] <Wiiplay123> Seems like it would be simple unless there's something I'm mising
L912[12:17:39] <vifino> gamax92: Damn, I was actually excited, I have a note 2.
L913[12:17:43] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: if you're talking about our conversation, phones run on ARM
L914[12:17:51] <Wiiplay123> oh nvm
L915[12:18:06] <Wiiplay123> Would be cool to have a phone that runs on 100% good normal linux
L916[12:18:53] <gamax92> vifino: well I dunno, maybe it could work, given that xda for some reason has a subforum that's called "Galaxy Note II, Galaxy S III Developer Discussion [Developers Only]"
L917[12:19:00] <vifino> Wiiplay123: n900
L918[12:19:10] <gamax92> vifino: it doesn't replace Android (but could), you kexec into the linux kernel
L919[12:19:31] <vifino> gamax92: only interaction is via usb-otg, i assume?
L920[12:19:50] <gamax92> it has MATE Desktop
L921[12:19:51] <vifino> or, does it keep android running or something?
L922[12:19:56] <vifino> that works? :O
L923[12:19:56] <Wiiplay123> oooh that looks nice
L924[12:22:10] <gamax92> vifino: yeah, keep in mind that image is from 2014 :P, where upgrading Xorg will break freedreno because it wasn't installed via package manager (X video ABI change), and newer freedreno refuses to run on newer Xorg for some reason
L925[12:22:26] <vifino> damn :(
L926[12:28:37] <gamax92> vifino: oh, do you have the note2 phone around?
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L928[12:28:51] <vifino> gamax92: more or less
L929[12:29:30] <gamax92> vifino: do you know what model it is?
L930[12:29:46] <vifino> international, methinks
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L932[12:31:07] <Wiiplay123> Trying to do OC and CC together is weird and scary but it must be done otherwise I'll waste tons of materials on pickaxes
L933[12:32:00] <gamax92> vifino: I don't know what that would be, but most of them don't use an Adreno GPU but Mali instead
L934[12:32:13] <vifino> :/
L935[12:32:36] <Wiiplay123> wow that would have been a complete disaster if I hadn't caught that bug
L936[12:32:53] <Wiiplay123> I almost could have send a CC mining turtle right through the robot's inventory system
L937[12:33:01] <Wiiplay123> rip in pepperoni
L938[12:33:13] <Wiiplay123> Also I love the inventory upgrade
L939[12:33:36] <vifino> gamax92: I also suspect my note 2 to have a mali gpu.
L940[12:33:47] <vifino> I don't remember, been years.
L941[12:33:56] <vifino> But I *think* it was a mali.
L942[12:35:28] <gamax92> vifino: well I mean there are apps to tell you this, one called "OpenGL-ES Info" gives me "Vendor: Qualcomm" "Renderer: Adreno (TM) 255"
L943[12:35:39] <gamax92> 225 ...
L944[12:36:08] <Inari> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lelo-hex-the-world-s-first-re-engineered-condom#/ heh
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L946[12:40:37] <Inari> payonel: got my pm btw?
L947[12:40:37] <Wiiplay123> The speed that robots craft at is INCREDIBLE
L948[12:40:44] * payonel blushes
L949[12:40:47] <payonel> yes
L950[12:40:58] <Inari> just making sure XD
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L952[12:42:41] <Saphire> Inari: why did you linked that? o.O
L953[12:42:51] * Saphire is bored enough to read it all ._.
L954[12:42:53] <Skye> Inari x payonel?
L955[12:43:09] <payonel> Skye: no, i'm just being dumb
L956[12:43:38] <vifino> love is dumb?
L957[12:43:41] * Saphire peeks at the said PM
L958[12:44:20] <payonel> Saphire: you don't need 'the'
L959[12:44:31] * Saphire flips the the
L960[12:44:42] <Inari> PM was about the wiki :P
L961[12:44:44] <Saphire> i will never understand how to use that thing correctly
L962[12:44:47] <Inari> Saphire: dunno, why not
L963[12:45:03] <Saphire> nor i'll understand a/an
L964[12:45:06] <Skye> Saphire, you don't need to use the
L965[12:45:07] <Skye> but
L966[12:45:13] <Inari> a/an is easy :f
L967[12:45:14] <Skye> well
L968[12:45:15] <Skye> waeffhwe
L969[12:45:16] <Skye> hejne]lr
L970[12:45:17] <Skye> rgtnr
L971[12:45:21] * Skye coughs
L972[12:45:23] <Inari> Skye: calm down
L973[12:45:31] <Skye> Saphire, a/an is basically based on sounds
L974[12:45:36] <Skye> an apple
L975[12:45:37] <Saphire> I KNOW
L976[12:45:46] <Saphire> I DIDN"T MEANT THAT EXACTLY
L977[12:45:50] <Skye> sorry
L978[12:45:52] <Inari> calm down
L979[12:45:53] <Inari> sheesh
L980[12:45:54] * Skye hugs Saphire
L981[12:46:04] <Saphire> i keeeeeeeew someone would interprent it that way >.>
L982[12:46:10] * Inari ships Saphire and Skye
L983[12:46:22] <payonel> Saphire: btw, i wasn't trying to criticize, just help :)
L984[12:46:22] <Inari> Saphire: you say you dont understand it, of course someone will interpet it that way :P
L985[12:46:24] <gamax92> vifino: ahh, I guess for Mali you use fbturbo, which I've seen in that Arch image
L986[12:46:25] <vifino> Saphire: You use an instead of a if the following word starts with aeiou.
L987[12:46:41] <Skye> vifino, not exactly correct. :P
L988[12:46:43] <Saphire> vifino: not really
L989[12:46:47] <payonel> personally, i'm humbled you all speak english so well
L990[12:46:47] <vifino> gamax92: I dunno if I wanna try it or not. :v
L991[12:46:48] <Saphire> an hour
L992[12:46:49] <Inari> mostly correct
L993[12:46:50] <vifino> Skye: pfft
L994[12:46:56] <Saphire> Inari: pffft
L995[12:47:05] <gamax92> vifino: well if you have like <4GB of free space on your /data partition then you can just try it without harming anything
L996[12:47:11] <Inari> except that if it starts with something else, but makes the same sound
L997[12:47:12] <Inari> you also use an
L998[12:47:17] <Saphire> have you tried to think "oh hey, how do i automatically put a/an in the text?"
L999[12:47:26] <Saphire> that shit is insane i say
L1000[12:47:28] <vifino> gamax92: I don't have anything on my phone at the moment.
L1001[12:47:34] <vifino> Well, except recovery.
L1002[12:47:40] <Inari> Saphire: either phonetics, or manual input
L1003[12:47:41] <Inari> :P
L1004[12:47:41] <gamax92> kexec should work from recovery too
L1005[12:47:53] <payonel> older english text has some uses of an that annoys me, i ignore them and read how i want :)
L1006[12:48:05] <Inari> https://gfycat.com/SecondhandFirstHog
L1007[12:48:44] <Saphire> SpaceStation13 is cursed
L1008[12:48:47] <Saphire> as a game i mean
L1009[12:48:53] <gamax92> vifino: the only thing that you're actually doing is just unpacking a filesystem into /data/local/arch and then using a script to kexec a kernel and initrd to boot to that folder
L1010[12:48:55] <Saphire> there are /no/ remakes of it
L1011[12:49:00] <Saphire> only direct forks
L1012[12:49:20] <Saphire> but no remakes ever made it past "unplayable but somewhat looks like something working"
L1013[12:49:36] <vifino> gamax92: mebbe later.
L1014[12:49:41] <vifino> have to find my phone anyhow.
L1015[12:49:54] <vifino> aaand probably charge it, battery is most likely completely flat.
L1016[12:49:56] <gamax92> oh huh ... that's a good point. it wouldn't be msm graphics since that's the Qualcomm stuff.
L1017[12:50:28] <Inari> i'd porbaly be more interested ni ss13 if it was less text RPy
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L1019[12:53:00] <Inari> i wish FTb would stop hating OC
L1020[12:53:37] <payonel> Inari: do they hate it overtly?
L1021[12:53:46] <Inari> dunno
L1022[12:53:50] <Inari> they justnever stick it in packs
L1023[12:53:50] <Inari> :P
L1024[12:54:42] <gamax92> mkdir Inari
L1025[12:54:50] <Inari> gamax92: permission denied
L1026[12:55:06] <gamax92> D:<
L1027[12:55:26] <Inari> assuming yu are responding to may question from like hours ago on how to make a new directroy on eos, or rather why cant i make one
L1028[12:55:28] <Inari> :P
L1029[12:55:31] <Saphire> chown Inari saphire:saphire
L1030[12:55:34] <Saphire> o..o
L1031[12:55:44] <vifino> you messed that up.
L1032[12:55:46] <gamax92> Inari: I wasn't
L1033[12:55:49] <Saphire> oh right
L1034[12:55:50] <vifino> Good job, Saphire.
L1035[12:55:52] <Inari> kay then
L1036[12:55:58] * Inari pelts gamax92 with rice
L1037[12:56:02] <Saphire> chown saphire:saphire / -R
L1038[12:56:04] * gamax92 noms it
L1039[12:56:06] <Saphire> here we go
L1040[12:56:17] <Saphire> *cough* i'm terrible *cough*
L1041[12:56:39] <gamax92> Saphire: you removed permission to get air D:
L1042[12:57:12] * Saphire tilts her head
L1043[12:57:14] <Saphire> hm?
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L1045[13:06:08] <Michiyo> Inari?
L1046[13:07:13] <Inari> Michiyo: it just says permission denied when it ry to make a new folder *shrugs*
L1047[13:07:37] <Michiyo> Inari, where are you trying to make a directory?
L1048[13:07:50] <Michiyo> You have ownership of /home/inari/*
L1049[13:08:01] <Inari> /home/public_html/wiki/extensions ? something like taht
L1050[13:08:53] <Michiyo> inari@eos:~/public_html/wiki/extensions$ mkdir test
L1051[13:08:53] <Michiyo> inari@eos:~/public_html/wiki/extensions$ ls -la
L1052[13:08:53] <Michiyo> drwxrwxr-x 2 inari inari 4096 Jun 18 13:08 test
L1053[13:09:18] <Michiyo> make sure that's /home/inari/public_html/wiki/extensions
L1054[13:09:26] <Michiyo> or atleast ~/etcetc
L1055[13:19:29] <TheCryptek> %tell TheFox just pm me when you get on :P
L1056[13:19:30] <MichiBot> TheCryptek: TheFox will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1059[13:43:43] <Saphire> http://www.qdb.us/140216
L1060[13:43:52] <Saphire> me trying to guess someone's gender on IRC
L1061[13:44:53] <Inari> Michiyo: seems to work now :o
L1062[13:44:56] <Inari> is SELinux enforced?
L1063[13:45:17] <Saphire> hmm
L1064[13:45:26] <Saphire> SElinux is kind of like antivirus o..o
L1065[13:45:29] <Saphire> no?
L1066[13:45:32] <Skye> no
L1067[13:45:39] <Skye> it's like UAC on steroids
L1068[13:45:49] <Saphire> and that's actually sane
L1069[13:45:53] <Saphire> *nods*
L1070[13:46:01] <Saphire> (sane if configured correctly)
L1071[13:46:07] <Skye> SELinux is not really easy to configure though
L1072[13:46:19] <alexbuzzbee> SELinux is nice for security though.
L1073[13:46:36] <alexbuzzbee> HAHAHA I HAVE COMPROMISED YOUR ROOT DAEMO- wait.
L1074[13:46:58] <Saphire> badum-ts
L1075[13:47:02] <Inari> also is this linux_64 or linux_32 :D
L1076[13:47:06] <Inari> i guess i can check in ssh
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L1078[13:47:41] <Inari> 64 it appears
L1079[13:48:04] <gamax92> setenforce 0 :v
L1080[13:48:26] * Saphire is not sure if :v is a smile here or some kind of argument
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L1082[13:49:25] <Inari> woo
L1083[13:49:27] <gamax92> Saphire: I'm not at all sure what it is either
L1084[13:49:28] <Inari> seems i installed it :P
L1085[13:49:34] <gamax92> also what the 3 is in a o3o
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L1087[13:50:02] <payonel> Inari: care to give opinion on my wording? (scroll to b:setTimeout) http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer
L1088[13:50:11] <payonel> it's a tricky thing to explain, but i have some code!
L1089[13:50:23] <payonel> anywho, i have to go afk for about 7 hours
L1090[13:50:28] <payonel> bye everyone!
L1091[13:51:08] <Inari> this wiki though
L1092[13:51:09] <Inari> x.x
L1093[13:51:34] <Skye> Saphire, oh my... I recognise a nickname in one of the QDB quotes
L1094[13:51:49] <Inari> payonel: first sentence lacks a "to" at the end i believe?
L1095[13:52:43] <Saphire> http://www.qdb.us/80430 and that is why you don't install any of "now playing" scripts
L1096[13:52:47] <Forecaster> works without
L1097[13:52:53] <Saphire> Skye: huh? o..o
L1098[13:52:55] <Inari> payonel: sounds fine?
L1099[13:53:00] <Skye> Saphire, DRAMA!
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L1101[13:53:39] <Inari> Forecaster: hm, just sounds off to be.. it says it will try to limit it, but doesnt address what it limits it to
L1102[13:53:59] <Forecaster> Saphire: xD
L1103[13:54:02] <gamax92> Unsupported ioctl: cmd=0xffffffff80046601
L1104[13:54:21] <Saphire> !song
L1105[13:54:38] * gamax92 sings
L1106[13:54:49] <Inari> obligatory https://xkcd.com/1482/
L1107[13:57:20] <Inari> http://www.qdb.us/81171 this is odd considering my nii's name is "David" :f
L1108[13:57:34] <TheCryptek> When I boot into Plan9K why does my pc panic?
L1109[13:57:49] <Inari> your real pc?
L1110[13:58:02] <TheCryptek> No my OC PC it says "System Halted: Panic"
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L1112[13:58:46] <Inari> :p
L1113[13:58:48] <Inari> good
L1114[13:58:51] <Inari> cause the other things owuld be amazing
L1115[13:58:58] <TheCryptek> lol
L1116[13:59:34] <Forecaster> Inari: what do they love?! I must know D:
L1117[14:00:56] <gamax92> what is the difference between best and top
L1118[14:01:08] <TheCryptek> It goes to the screen http://puu.sh/pxpRz/6ce35cf2f7.png and just starts beeping but at the bottom it says "System Halted: Panic" Why?
L1119[14:01:34] <Inari> gamax92: statistically best quotes vs top quotes of all time?
L1120[14:02:12] <gamax92> what's the difference
L1121[14:02:56] <Inari> dunno, something like best funny/awful ratio, or most funny in shortest time fro statistical i guess?
L1122[14:02:58] <Inari> and top just raw points
L1123[14:04:03] <TheCryptek> No help?
L1124[14:04:13] <gamax92> Inari: what? ratio?
L1125[14:04:26] <Inari> funny votes divided by awful votes :D
L1126[14:04:27] <Forecaster> I've never gotten plan9k to work
L1127[14:04:42] <gamax92> Inari: isn't reddit just upvotes and downvotes
L1128[14:04:55] <TheCryptek> I had it working for OpenComputer for mc 1.8.9
L1129[14:05:29] <Forecaster> I forget who made it, but pretty sure they hang out here
L1130[14:05:39] <gamax92> Magik6k:
L1131[14:05:51] <Forecaster> ah yes, that person
L1132[14:05:57] <gamax92> yes, that guy
L1133[14:05:58] <gamax92> :P
L1134[14:06:09] <Forecaster> ah yes, that toaster
L1135[14:06:36] <TheCryptek> So just avoid plan9k for now?
L1136[14:06:54] <Forecaster> have you tried searching for that issue?
L1137[14:06:58] <Forecaster> or looking on the forums
L1138[14:07:04] <TheCryptek> I have
L1139[14:07:08] <TheCryptek> I didn't find anything
L1140[14:07:28] <Forecaster> then I guess you'll have to put it off until Magik6k shows up
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L1142[14:09:41] <TheCryptek> ok thats fine, I'll just switch to 1.8.9 profile and finish my work on Plan9K there
L1143[14:12:15] <Inari> gamax92: ohr eddit
L1144[14:12:18] <Inari> gamax92: i thoguht you mean qdb
L1145[14:12:19] <Inari> :P
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L1147[14:19:08] <gamax92> ooooh, bacman, creates a pkg.tar.xz from filesystem :3
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L1152[14:24:58] <S3> gamax92:
L1153[14:26:00] <scj643> Hi s3
L1154[14:26:07] <S3> Hey
L1155[14:26:12] <gamax92> hey S3
L1156[14:26:15] <gamax92> what's up
L1157[14:27:07] <Forecaster> previous messages
L1158[14:27:27] <Forecaster> :D
L1159[14:28:00] <scj643> I got a new bouncer set up thanks Lizzy
L1160[14:28:17] <gamax92> Forecaster: carrot cake
L1161[14:28:32] <Forecaster> no that's on the table, next to the pie
L1162[14:29:12] <scj643> Kindle fire makes a good IRC devixe
L1163[14:29:29] <Forecaster> my laptop makes a good IRC device
L1164[14:29:44] <Forecaster> that's pretty much all I use it for, and surveilance
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L1166[14:30:42] <scj643> I use a bouncer
L1167[14:30:45] <scj643> Quassel
L1168[14:30:58] <scj643> Quassel droid is pretty damn good
L1169[14:31:02] <Forecaster> I am my own bouncer
L1170[14:31:17] <Forecaster> and I can connect from any ssh client
L1171[14:31:26] <Inari> most people dont need a bouncer
L1172[14:31:31] <Inari> unless you're a club or a prostitute
L1173[14:31:36] <TheCryptek> I've never heard of using a bouncer via SSH
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L1175[14:31:54] <scj643> It's called irssi
L1176[14:32:18] <TheCryptek> Oh, didn't realize irssi was SSH xD even though I have used it on my laptop
L1177[14:32:18] <scj643> My laptop screen is usable but beat to all hell
L1178[14:32:40] <scj643> Irzsi is cli
L1179[14:32:40] <Forecaster> irssi isn't ssh
L1180[14:32:48] <Forecaster> I'm running it on a server
L1181[14:32:52] <TheCryptek> Oh
L1182[14:32:53] <TheCryptek> Ok
L1183[14:32:54] <Forecaster> it's a console application
L1184[14:32:55] <TheCryptek> xD
L1185[14:32:57] <scj643> Run that on tmux
L1186[14:33:02] <scj643> Instant bouncer
L1187[14:33:25] <scj643> Though I run quassel core
L1188[14:33:29] <Forecaster> although you can apparently connect to it like it's an irc server if setup right?
L1189[14:33:33] <Forecaster> I think lizzy does that
L1190[14:33:58] <Lizzy> yep
L1191[14:34:04] <Lizzy> Irssi proxy
L1192[14:34:12] <TheCryptek> Forecaster: I don't know if you can do irssi that way but my bouncer I connect to it like its an IRC server
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L1194[14:34:59] <Lizzy> scj643, why does your clone keep joining?
L1195[14:35:13] <scj643> It's on another quassel core
L1196[14:35:21] <scj643> I can't kill that one sadly
L1197[14:35:46] <Forecaster> I tried quassel before I found irssi, couldn't get it to work right
L1198[14:36:13] <scj643> I use quassel all the time
L1199[14:36:19] <gamax92> I've never used quassel
L1200[14:36:25] <TheCryptek> Is quassel better then ZNC?
L1201[14:36:29] <scj643> You run it as a server client type this g
L1202[14:36:42] <scj643> Quassel syncs all your backlog
L1203[14:37:14] * Lizzy runs znc and her connection goes through irssi
L1204[14:38:15] <scj643> Anyone know how to take a screenshot in Android
L1205[14:38:24] <Forecaster> depends on the device
L1206[14:38:27] <Lizzy> press and hold lock button?
L1207[14:38:28] <g> scj643: ?
L1208[14:38:30] <TheCryptek> scj643: It depends on the phone.
L1209[14:38:42] <Forecaster> I have a galaxy S5
L1210[14:38:46] <scj643> Kindle fire
L1211[14:38:51] <scj643> With CM
L1212[14:38:59] <Forecaster> you take a screenshot by swiping the side of your hand across the screen
L1213[14:39:03] <Forecaster> horizontally
L1214[14:39:07] <TheCryptek> I don't know how with a Kingle Fire but with my phone I hold the lockscreen and home button for about 3 seconds.
L1215[14:39:15] <Forecaster> (on an S5)
L1216[14:39:20] <Forecaster> no idea about a kindle
L1217[14:39:39] <TheCryptek> (on a Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime)
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L1219[14:40:49] <scj643> Volume down and power
L1220[14:41:12] * Inari pressed and holds Lizzy's button
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L1222[14:42:11] * scj643 goes perv
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L1224[14:42:18] <Forecaster> lewd
L1225[14:42:20] <Cryptek> I'm back
L1226[14:42:37] <scj643> very lewd
L1227[14:43:14] <Cryptek> what is lewd?
L1228[14:43:26] <Inari> hello
L1229[14:43:28] <Inari> I am lewd
L1230[14:43:31] <Cryptek> oh
L1231[14:43:32] <Cryptek> lol
L1232[14:43:35] <Lizzy> :P
L1233[14:43:52] * scj643 laughs
L1234[14:44:44] <Cryptek> is it possible to combine CC and OC? for example Run a server on OC and the client on CC or vice versa?
L1235[14:45:32] <Forecaster> sure, if you write a protocol for sending data with redstone signals :P
L1236[14:46:15] <alexbuzzbee> I think OC can communicate with CC networks?
L1237[14:46:36] <Forecaster> my way would be more interesting
L1238[14:46:40] <scj643> Iirc yes
L1239[14:46:51] <Inari> meh
L1240[14:46:53] <scj643> Red stone is unreliable
L1241[14:46:56] <Inari> Forecaster: communicating with items is faster
L1242[14:47:06] <Inari> scj643: how so
L1243[14:47:10] <scj643> Bundled cables
L1244[14:47:14] <Cryptek> Forcaster: Wouldn't I just be able to take the APIs from CC and put them in OC?
L1245[14:47:17] <Inari> ?
L1246[14:47:33] <scj643> Red stone breaks with water
L1247[14:48:13] <Cryptek> Meaning surround the PC in water and the signal can't get out.
L1248[14:48:20] <Cryptek> In theory
L1249[14:48:52] <scj643> Redstone dust has a 15 block limit
L1250[14:49:00] <scj643> And is binary
L1251[14:49:12] <Forecaster> scj643: none of those things would be relative, and computer communication is binary
L1252[14:49:22] <Cryptek> but in CCs config you can set the redstone signal to spread as far as you wan IE my config is 999999999 meters
L1253[14:49:23] <Forecaster> s/relative/relevant
L1254[14:49:23] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> scj643: none of those things would be relevant, and computer communication is binary
L1255[14:49:51] <scj643> Well bandwidth is low
L1256[14:49:55] <alexbuzzbee> If you use repeaters, redstone can go as far as you want.
L1257[14:49:55] <Inari> redstone is analogu ethough
L1258[14:49:56] <Inari> :f
L1259[14:49:59] <alexbuzzbee> scj643: Yes.
L1260[14:50:04] <scj643> 1 pulse per tick
L1261[14:50:25] <Inari> low bandwidth doesnt mean low realiability :D
L1262[14:50:36] <alexbuzzbee> Inari: Except the signal gets weaker with distance, and is totally destroyed if it goes through a repeater.
L1263[14:50:38] <Cryptek> Inari: Unless we are talking internetz in real life.
L1264[14:50:40] <alexbuzzbee> So, not really analog.
L1265[14:51:19] <gamax92> I swear ...
L1266[14:51:27] <Forecaster> hm, anyone know what framed drawers do?
L1267[14:51:39] <Cryptek> Frame a drawer?
L1268[14:51:41] <scj643> Google keyboard knows MC terms
L1269[14:52:09] <scj643> I play pocket edition mostly now
L1270[14:52:12] <Cryptek> Love google keyboard :D
L1271[14:52:25] <Forecaster> Cryptek: what?
L1272[14:52:43] <Cryptek> Forcaster: I don't know are we talking about framed drawers in a mod or?
L1273[14:52:54] <Forecaster> I'm talking about Storage Drawers
L1274[14:52:55] <gamax92> Dammit.
L1275[14:53:14] <Cryptek> Couldn't tell ya xD Never heard of "Framed Drawers"
L1276[14:59:14] <Cryptek> Okay then had to move to my phone sorry.
L1277[15:01:05] <Forecaster> I can't find any documentation on what they do :I
L1278[15:01:07] <Forecaster> or how to use them
L1279[15:01:58] <scj643> You stick something lewd into them
L1280[15:02:20] <Forecaster> OH
L1281[15:02:25] <Forecaster> there's a "Framing table"
L1282[15:02:28] <Forecaster> :I
L1283[15:05:24] <Cryptek> Is it possible to move cables with sticky pistons?
L1284[15:06:24] <scj643> Try it
L1285[15:08:32] <Cryptek> I did was hoping to fix it to switch between raids without making a bootloader
L1286[15:08:38] <gamax92> I wish adb had a progress bar for transfering files
L1287[15:09:05] <Cryptek> Right
L1288[15:10:38] <alexbuzzbee> Cryptek: No.
L1289[15:10:42] <alexbuzzbee> I've tried.
L1290[15:11:03] <alexbuzzbee> I tried to do that with screens so I could make 'terminals' that could be switched on and off.
L1291[15:11:11] <alexbuzzbee> It didn't work.
L1292[15:13:07] <gamax92> scj643: redstone is analog?
L1293[15:13:27] <Forecaster> well yeah, since you can detect levels
L1294[15:13:36] <Forecaster> but it's also digital since it can be on/off
L1295[15:13:43] <Forecaster> or binary
L1296[15:13:51] <gamax92> Forecaster: so are data lines in real life
L1297[15:13:59] <Forecaster> I know
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L1299[15:22:41] <Forecaster> youtube. stop sending me an email when I upload a video.
L1300[15:23:43] <Forecaster> I've told you to stop! Why wont you stop?!
L1301[15:25:53] <gamax92> Forecaster: "Hey, check out this great video by Forecaster!"
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L1304[15:27:21] <scj643> Lol
L1305[15:30:15] ⇦ Quits: scj643_ (~quassel@23.94.242.163) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L1306[15:30:30] <Forecaster> it's more like "The video you uploaded is uploaded! Here's a link to it in case your forgot!"
L1307[15:31:10] <Vexatos> How can you forget if you have to keep the browser open to upload it
L1308[15:32:10] <Forecaster> I dunno
L1309[15:32:31] <Forecaster> thought I really wish I didn't have to do that, but their API doesn't work properly
L1310[15:32:31] <gamax92> Vexatos: magic
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L1313[15:35:53] * scj643 is NP Eminem - Never Enough (Encore (Deluxe Version))
L1314[15:35:56] <gamax92> can't tell why this transfer is going super slowly.
L1315[15:36:24] <Forecaster> wellp, time to set up another farm
L1316[15:36:32] <Forecaster> #3
L1317[15:36:40] <Forecaster> which means that one episode title was correct
L1318[15:37:34] <gamax92> inb4 Forecaster's club penquin series episode #307
L1319[15:38:08] <Forecaster> the only reason I know what club penguin is is because of Imgur
L1320[15:39:25] <Antheus> -/suuure
L1321[15:44:20] <Cryptek> So
L1322[15:44:23] <Cryptek> I just realized
L1323[15:44:27] *** Cryptek is now known as TheCryptek
L1324[15:44:31] <TheCryptek> Never mind
L1325[15:44:41] <TheCryptek> I found my issue LOL
L1326[15:47:38] <TheCryptek> My bouncer apparently thought that I had Cryptek as my first nickname instead of my ALT nickname ._.
L1327[15:59:59] <gamax92> file transfer 70% ;~;
L1328[16:08:00] <gamax92> I still have like 15 minutes left until the transfer finishes
L1329[16:16:02] <gamax92> TIL GDK_SCALE=2
L1330[16:17:09] <gamax92> any of you have a high dpi screen?
L1331[16:17:53] <Forecaster> how high is high?
L1332[16:18:37] <ds84182> about this much
L1333[16:19:02] <gamax92> 192 or higher
L1334[16:19:11] <ds84182> see, thats what I said
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L1336[16:19:26] <Forecaster> I realize I don't even know what dpi these are
L1337[16:19:32] * CompanionCube is installing tumbleweed....on a usb stick
L1338[16:19:41] <gamax92> CompanionCube: what's that
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L1340[16:19:53] <gamax92> ds84182: adb super slow transfer speed
L1341[16:19:56] <Kimiro> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNKqJiMfkUs
L1342[16:19:57] <MichiBot> DJO - Star Trek - I'm a Big Chocolate Slut | length: 4m 52s | Likes: 7824 Dislikes: 185 Views: 864851 | by dayjoborchestra
L1343[16:20:07] <gamax92> just now finished, one hour later
L1344[16:20:08] <CompanionCube> gamax92: google 'opensuse tumbleweed
L1345[16:21:08] <gamax92> oooh
L1346[16:21:09] <ds84182> gamax92: update your adb then
L1347[16:21:20] <gamax92> ds84182: what do you mean
L1348[16:21:34] <gamax92> it's the latest
L1349[16:21:39] <ds84182> Or actually that only works with newer versions of android
L1350[16:21:40] <ds84182> sorry
L1351[16:28:19] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxO8AqZcekk i love this lol
L1352[16:28:19] <MichiBot> Bastion of Fun | length: 5m 37s | Likes: 14454 Dislikes: 214 Views: 431044 | by penguinz0
L1353[16:30:03] <gamax92> XD
L1354[16:30:08] <Wiiplay123> Turns out it's ComputerCraft:CCTurtleExpanded for ones with tools
L1355[16:30:12] <Wiiplay123> gotta fix the program now
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L1359[16:49:17] * Forecaster still needs to fix his factory, that used to work, then it broke, then Vexatos fixed it, then it broke again
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L1363[17:03:36] <Forecaster> >:
L1364[17:03:45] <gamax92> :<
L1365[17:03:55] <Forecaster> also, the factory almost makes me wish I had one of the mods that adds conveyor belts
L1366[17:04:02] <gamax92> Factorio :>
L1367[17:04:04] <Forecaster> because it'd be thematic
L1368[17:04:38] <TheCryptek> Forecaster: What kinda factory is it :o
L1369[17:05:28] <Forecaster> Buildcraft packagers the thing that turns the packages into the finished product
L1370[17:05:35] <Forecaster> controller by an oc computer
L1371[17:05:50] <Forecaster> s/controller/controlled
L1372[17:05:50] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> controlled by an oc computer
L1373[17:06:20] <TheCryptek> That sounds fun, but I'm still working on my transition from CC to OC
L1374[17:12:38] <Forecaster> was supposed to be a comma after "packagers" too
L1375[17:13:25] <TheCryptek> From what I have established, what's throwing me off are the api names and how you wrap to a peripheral
L1376[17:14:03] <Forecaster> why do api names throw you off?
L1377[17:17:07] <TheCryptek> Its not just the API names its how they all work, and mostly cuzz I have been using CC for years and I'm use to rednet.blah instead of modem.blah
L1378[17:17:17] <TheCryptek> lol and the whole component.modem.blah
L1379[17:17:47] <Forecaster> an api is basically a set of functions and methods
L1380[17:18:09] <Forecaster> like the "component" api for example, which is a set that lets you interreact with components
L1381[17:18:11] <TheCryptek> I know, its just where I am so use to CC the programming is different in OP
L1382[17:18:17] <TheCryptek> Yea
L1383[17:18:26] <TheCryptek> where as in CC it would be term.redirect()
L1384[17:18:44] <gamax92> TheCryptek: most people tend to do: local something = component.something, to help avoid typing component.(thing) several times
L1385[17:18:56] <TheCryptek> to be exact term.redirect(peripheral.wrap("back"))
L1386[17:19:29] <TheCryptek> gamax92: I know TheFox taught me. we made m = component.modem in one of our programs
L1387[17:21:28] <TheCryptek> [I say our because he is helping me transfer my security system from CC to OC and he is teaching me while we do it. so I give him the credit]
L1388[17:22:01] <gamax92> well I'm ssh'd into a phone over usb ethernet :>
L1389[17:22:35] <ds84182> gamax92: I do the reverse (ssh into my computer from my phone over usb ethernet)
L1390[17:22:55] <ds84182> I usually do that when X Org holds a knife to it's throat
L1391[17:23:12] <gamax92> ds84182: I figured out what that issue with the freedreno driver was
L1392[17:23:18] <gamax92> not really, but how to get around it
L1393[17:23:25] <Inari> TheCryptek: so with peripherals it is also not that you dont understand OC's way, but more that you're just used to CCs way?
L1394[17:23:56] <ds84182> gamax92: nice
L1395[17:24:26] <TheCryptek> Inari: Yes, same with networks where rednet is for CC
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L1398[17:24:54] <Inari> TheCryptek: okay :p
L1399[17:25:11] <CompanionCube> gamax92: how
L1400[17:31:35] <S3> so today at work, instead of my coworker saying "my bad"
L1401[17:31:42] <S3> he said, "Sorry bro, my kernels were leaking"
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L1403[17:31:54] <S3> XD
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L1405[17:35:04] <Forecaster> :P
L1406[17:36:19] <gamax92> learning about Arch linux and pacman makes me want to use Arch linux more and more
L1407[17:37:16] <TheCryptek> Arch Linux is amazing lol
L1408[17:37:21] <TheCryptek> I just can't get it to run on my laptop D;
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L1410[17:38:10] <Lizzy> gamax92, :D
L1411[17:38:18] <Lizzy> TheCryptek, you're not trying hard enough
L1412[17:39:01] <TheCryptek> Lizzy: Well when the laptop has an SDCard for an HD and only 2 gigs of ram, I can only try so hard before I choose to melt it xD
L1413[17:39:09] <Lizzy> ah
L1414[17:39:25] <gamax92> anyway, gonna attempt to do this upgrade again, hopefully it goes a bit smoother this time since I've learned certain things to do/not do from the last time I tried
L1415[17:39:51] <gamax92> it's still like a two year upgrade though T_T
L1416[17:42:33] <TheCryptek> What do you mean it's still like a two year upgrade if I may ask.
L1417[17:42:58] <gamax92> it hasn't been upgraded in two years?
L1418[17:43:22] <TheCryptek> Oh
L1419[17:43:24] <TheCryptek> Dur
L1420[17:43:28] <TheCryptek> I shoulda known that xD
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L1423[17:46:38] * CompanionCube has 2 gigs of ram on his desktop
L1424[17:47:02] <Forecaster> mine runs on a piece of toast
L1425[17:47:10] <Forecaster> with some jam on it
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L1428[17:53:38] <Skye> CompanionCube, I'm going to get 20GB of RAM soon.
L1429[17:53:59] <TheCryptek> I would like 1TB of RAM :D
L1430[17:54:08] <Skye> (4x2 - 2x2) + 2x8GB
L1431[17:54:54] <CompanionCube> what are you going to do with it
L1432[17:56:53] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B475P_V9SbY
L1433[17:56:54] <MichiBot> Green Day - Funny Moments - HD | length: 16m 17s | Likes: 5612 Dislikes: 67 Views: 418070 | by Channel 0
L1434[17:57:50] <Skye> CompanionCube, let's see
L1435[17:57:56] <Skye> use google chrome? /s
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L1438[17:58:14] <scj643> I use chrome
L1439[17:58:42] <CompanionCube> Skye: or zfs with dedup
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L1442[18:01:01] <Skye> CompanionCube, the 2x2GB will go to my dad so he will have ((2x2GB + 2x1GB) - 2x1GB) + 2x2GB
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L1444[18:01:18] <Skye> the spare 2x1GB will go to my NAS to make 2x1GB + 2x1GB
L1445[18:05:54] <ds84182> Quick poll: How many people are currently on Java 8?
L1446[18:06:05] <gamax92> ds84182: I'm on Java 6
L1447[18:06:09] <ds84182> gamax92: yousuck
L1448[18:06:24] <ds84182> Is OpenJDK for Java8 out yet?
L1449[18:06:46] <ds84182> I think it is
L1450[18:06:53] <ds84182> Yeah
L1451[18:06:56] <Lizzy> ds84182, yes
L1452[18:07:29] <ds84182> Woo that means I can throw out all this Scala and use regular Java
L1453[18:07:44] <ds84182> Since I'm more accustomed to Java 8 than Scala anyways
L1454[18:07:53] <ds84182> now if Java only had auto or var
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L1461[18:19:37] <Skye> I prefer Scala to Java
L1462[18:22:05] <gamax92> ds84182: I am actually on Java 8 though
L1463[18:22:15] <ds84182> yay
L1464[18:22:46] <ds84182> Skye: I can't use Scala anymore because of operator shenannigans
L1465[18:23:02] <ds84182> However I do like the immutable containers
L1466[18:23:07] <gamax92> plus ... whatever the fuck Sangar's other mod is called requires Java 8
L1467[18:23:19] <ds84182> But then again thats why Minecraft bundles guava ( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ)
L1468[18:23:26] <ds84182> gamax92: TIS 3D possibly
L1469[18:23:29] <gamax92> yes that
L1470[18:23:59] <Skye> I like Scala's operator shenanigans
L1471[18:24:11] <gamax92> Skye just wants to watch the world burn
L1472[18:24:14] <ds84182> (Also the whole match case thing is getting to me)
L1473[18:24:19] <ds84182> I don't really like match case
L1474[18:25:24] <ds84182> (Then again I do use Dart which makes if (x is Y) statements make all references to x inside of the if statement type Y)
L1475[18:25:25] <Skye> I like how Scala is less verbose than Java
L1476[18:25:52] <ds84182> I actually like verbosity because I won't get lost when I revisit code after some time
L1477[18:26:19] <ds84182> I don't really get the whole "Less is more" thing
L1478[18:27:18] <ds84182> (except in the case of Java's anonymous classes prior to Java 8)
L1479[18:27:56] <Skye> I find Scala neater
L1480[18:28:08] <gamax92> ds84182: do you know if I can add entries to TWRP's menu
L1481[18:28:08] <Skye> also... Does Java have traits?
L1482[18:28:27] <ds84182> gamax92: I don't think so
L1483[18:28:30] <gamax92> damn
L1484[18:28:42] <ds84182> Skye: In Java 8 you can emulate what Traits do with default methods
L1485[18:28:57] <ds84182> I don't really like Scala's traits because misuse can become a mess >_<
L1486[18:29:47] <Skye> Default methods are meh
L1487[18:29:58] <ds84182> Dart has "traits" but I've rarely used them
L1488[18:30:04] <ds84182> I don't even remember how they work
L1489[18:33:03] <ds84182> Dart's mixins are like Scala traits, which are like Java's default methods. The only difference between Scala and (Dart and Java) is that D and J cannot have fields in mixins
L1490[18:33:17] <ds84182> Dart partially gets around the problem by having getters and setters
L1491[18:33:31] <ds84182> So you can have abstract fields
L1492[18:34:40] <Skye> Java default methods aren't as flexible as Scala traits
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L1494[18:34:50] <Skye> I need to sleep now
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L1496[18:35:01] <Skye> Though... Different people have different preferences
L1497[18:35:19] <Skye> It'd be nice if Scala was more compatible with Java 8, though
L1498[18:35:21] <ds84182> I feel that flexibility in some cases can lead to downfall :P
L1499[18:38:33] <scj643> can someone kick my dopleganger
L1500[18:38:47] <ds84182> Skye: The other problem is that Scala can pass constructor params to individual inherited classes. Most languages cannot
L1501[18:39:12] <ds84182> Unless you want to see things like X.super() appear in Java :P
L1502[18:40:18] <scj643> I use python
L1503[18:40:26] <scj643> So that's common
L1504[18:42:28] <ds84182> Thats different because Python has loose classes (classes where any field can be added at runtime)
L1505[18:42:52] <ds84182> It's kinda like inheritance in JavaScript :P
L1506[18:43:13] <scj643> Oh
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L1508[18:43:26] <scj643> I've made some good things in python
L1509[18:43:49] <scj643> Like an api to make iOS mobile config profiles
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L1511[18:52:22] <Mimiru> Ok, I'm shutting Eos down to try to export it, so ocdoc and MichiBot will be down
L1512[18:52:37] <scj643> Ok
L1513[18:52:45] <scj643> As long as athar is fine :P
L1514[18:53:18] <Mimiru> Athar isn't mine... it'd be hard for me to shut it down
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L1518[18:54:02] <Mimiru> Oh... right.. Corded too
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L1524[18:56:08] <Mimiru> what the fuck
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L1527[19:01:45] <Lizzy> "<scj643> As long as athar is fine :P" 1) Athar is a dedicated server, 2) it's mine, not Mimiru's
L1528[19:03:43] <scj643> I know
L1529[19:03:53] <scj643> I was joking
L1530[19:04:07] <scj643> I love that athar is dedicated
L1531[19:04:30] <scj643> lizzy how often does athar go down?
L1532[19:04:36] <Lizzy> never?
L1533[19:04:58] <scj643> Good
L1534[19:05:04] <scj643> perfect for a bouncer
L1535[19:05:23] <Mimiru> Only reason Eos is down is so I can move it from One dedi, to another
L1536[19:06:14] * scj643 is NP Eminem - Love The Way You Lie (Recovery)
L1537[19:07:02] <Lizzy> [lizzy@Athar ~]$ uptime
L1538[19:07:04] <Lizzy> 02:06:40 up 274 days, 1:50, 1 user, load average: 1.26, 1.32, 1.30
L1539[19:07:19] <Mimiru> uptime
L1540[19:07:20] <Mimiru> 0:06:56 up 135 days, 11:01:06, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.08
L1541[19:07:20] <scj643> Nice
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L1543[19:07:44] <Lizzy> janus has 194 days
L1544[19:07:51] <scj643> Lizzy wonder if we can go for a year
L1545[19:08:00] <Lizzy> unlikely
L1546[19:08:07] <Mimiru> Victory has been up since I provisioned it with ESXi
L1547[19:08:08] <scj643> Ok
L1548[19:08:18] <Lizzy> at some point i want to re-do it completely
L1549[19:08:35] <scj643> As long as my VPS doesn't get destroyed I'm fine
L1550[19:08:58] <Lizzy> na, it may have some downtime but it shouldn't be that long
L1551[19:09:01] <Lizzy> if i do it
L1552[19:09:01] <Mimiru> fuck... the disk Eos lives on only has 163 GB free
L1553[19:09:19] <Lizzy> i may just get a new server then move everything over
L1554[19:09:22] <scj643> Wish I had money lizzy
L1555[19:09:39] <scj643> Only got $1 in itunes
L1556[19:10:34] <Mimiru> god fucking damn it
L1557[19:10:50] * Mimiru flips table and chairs
L1558[19:11:13] <Lizzy> scj643, that's alright, i've got a job and not much else to pay for (like rent or bills) yet
L1559[19:11:27] <scj643> Ok
L1560[19:11:31] * Mimiru sighs
L1561[19:11:46] <scj643> Also btw quassel can have multiple users too :D
L1562[19:12:00] <Mimiru> Eos's disk is 590gb
L1563[19:12:30] <Lizzy> scj643, eh, i didn't like quassel's interface
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L1565[19:12:57] <Temia> Yeah, there are professional Quassel core hosts out there like woboc.
L1566[19:13:10] <Temia> Er, woboq even
L1567[19:13:29] <scj643> ?
L1568[19:13:58] <scj643> woboq makes iQuassel
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L1570[19:14:41] <Mimiru> well.. I guess I'm just screwed
L1571[19:14:57] <Stary2001> o?
L1572[19:15:36] <Mimiru> Eos's disk is 550GB, The dedi it's on has 167GB free, I can't export it.
L1573[19:15:46] <Lizzy> :/
L1574[19:16:11] <Lizzy> tell Inary to clear her.... stuff.... out
L1575[19:16:14] <Lizzy> :P
L1576[19:16:22] <scj643> I would never use lizzy for a cdn though
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L1578[19:16:30] <Lizzy> cdn?
L1579[19:16:36] <scj643> Website
L1580[19:16:50] <scj643> Or anything of the like
L1581[19:16:53] <Lizzy> why?
L1582[19:16:59] <scj643> The speed from the US isn't that great
L1583[19:17:17] <Lizzy> well to be fair, it is going overseas
L1584[19:17:29] <max> how can i see how much memory is free?
L1585[19:17:37] <scj643> htop
L1586[19:17:42] <scj643> or top
L1587[19:17:56] <Lizzy> ~w computer
L1588[19:18:01] <Mimiru> No ocdoc..
L1589[19:18:04] <Lizzy> fuck
L1590[19:18:11] <Mimiru> it's starting
L1591[19:18:12] <Mimiru> I hope
L1592[19:18:38] <Lizzy> max, http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:computer computer.freeMemory()
L1593[19:19:18] <max> thank you !
L1594[19:19:29] <scj643> I got python APIs for free space
L1595[19:19:39] <Lizzy> scj643, they mean for OC
L1596[19:19:50] <Lizzy> :P
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L1598[19:20:16] <Lizzy> also i wonder if i could live migrate VMs between servers....
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L1601[19:20:36] <Lizzy> would probably not work
L1602[19:20:45] <Mimiru> I really wish The Idiot had let me setup VMWare on the box...
L1603[19:20:52] <Mimiru> I could have just copied the fucking VM over
L1604[19:20:56] <Mimiru> but NOOOOOOOooooooOoOOOo
L1605[19:20:59] <Mimiru> HAD to be vbox
L1606[19:21:03] <Lizzy> is that what you're calling them now
L1607[19:21:04] <Lizzy> ?
L1608[19:21:10] <Mimiru> Yes
L1609[19:21:13] <Lizzy> k
L1610[19:22:20] <scj643> Kindle is only useful for irx
L1611[19:22:28] <scj643> IRC even .
L1612[19:22:44] <Lizzy> i hear it's also useful for book reading
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L1615[19:22:58] <Mimiru> %test
L1616[19:23:17] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Success
L1617[19:24:14] <scj643> Oh yeah my api is for iOS
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L1626[20:14:28] <TheFox> hello every o/
L1627[20:14:44] <TheFox> TheCryptek: Hello
L1628[20:15:46] <TheFox> %oclogs
L1629[20:15:48] <MichiBot> TheFox: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L1630[20:16:30] <ds84182> It's time to remember how the hell you do networking in Minecraft mods!
L1631[20:16:46] <TheFox> care to elaborate?
L1632[20:17:30] <ds84182> I'm making a mod (that I may or may not scrap due to complexity) and I haven't really set up a mod from the ground up in the last year and a half
L1633[20:17:30] <TheFox> because its kinda easy in OC if you remember the modem API
L1634[20:18:01] <TheFox> oh, yeah that makes more since, i thought you meant setup a communication network in a OC world
L1635[20:18:12] <TheFox> whats your mod about?
L1636[20:18:12] <ds84182> The other problem is that I'm targeting 1.8.9 instead of my normal 1.7.10
L1637[20:18:28] <TheFox> yeah, 1.8.9 has a rare modding background
L1638[20:18:55] <ds84182> TheFox: It's kinda sorta reactive programming in Minecraft except wirelessly with blocks
L1639[20:19:10] <TheFox> so it works with OC?
L1640[20:19:14] <ds84182> Nope
L1641[20:19:20] <TheFox> oh
L1642[20:19:32] <TheFox> is there a mod its similar to?
L1643[20:19:35] <ds84182> I'm probably going to go rewrite another major percentage of the codebase
L1644[20:19:45] <ds84182> TheFox: I don't really think there is a similar mod out there
L1645[20:20:26] <TheFox> will, i can't wait to mess around with it
L1646[20:20:44] <TheFox> since you seem to know what your doing can i ask you a lua question?
L1647[20:20:56] <ds84182> Sure
L1648[20:21:27] <TheFox> ok, do you know about lua tables, its a stupid mistake and i can't seem to find out where it is.
L1649[20:21:35] <ds84182> Yeah
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L1651[20:23:00] <TheFox> i guess its just one of those things you dont notice until someone else looks at it: here is the link, Users should have 2 columns and 2 rows but it only has 1 column and 2 rows https://www.pastebin.com/yuye6tEm
L1652[20:23:21] <TheFox> ik whats happening i just dont seem to be able to fix it
L1653[20:23:37] <TheFox> the for loop is overwriting the first part of the Users table
L1654[20:24:18] <TheFox> wop, i just think i figured out, i am declaring Users in the loop
L1655[20:24:24] <ds84182> Yeah, was about to say that
L1656[20:24:59] <TheFox> i can't believe i did that
L1657[20:25:35] <TheFox> no wonder no one helped me last night, they must have thought i was joking :D
L1658[20:26:21] <ds84182> heh
L1659[20:33:30] <ds84182> Generics hell! List<Pair<Integer, List<Pair<String, NBTTagCompound>>>>
L1660[20:33:46] <ds84182> Actually, I could make that a little less hell
L1661[20:35:01] <Izaya> vifino: I have ~19M free
L1662[20:37:58] <TheFox> that sounds like a problem Izaya
L1663[20:39:51] <Izaya> TheFox: quite so, I don't know any programs that will fit in 19M happily
L1664[20:39:55] <Izaya> aside from like, dc and ed
L1665[20:40:53] <Izaya> http://customize.org/litestep/themes/65673880
L1666[20:42:01] <ds84182> Izaya: lua
L1667[20:42:09] <ds84182> :P
L1668[20:53:56] <gamax92> ds84182: yay, an actual stacktrace http://hastebin.com/hohopucuni.txt
L1669[20:54:18] <gamax92> issue is dev is NULL
L1670[20:55:50] <ds84182> gamax92: Hey, at least the stack isn't corrupted :P
L1671[20:56:36] <ds84182> Protip: Never build C++ code with -fomit-frame-pointer
L1672[20:56:42] <ds84182> Because recompilation takes forever
L1673[20:57:23] <TheFox> was that on a mac?
L1674[20:58:49] <ds84182> TheFox: Nah, I was working on some 3DS homebrew
L1675[20:58:58] <gamax92> ... wait ...
L1676[20:59:15] <gamax92> ds84182: is fomit-frame-pointer or fno-omit-frame-pointer better for debugging?
L1677[20:59:16] <ds84182> devkitPro's default makefile adds -fomit-frame-pointer
L1678[20:59:42] <ds84182> gamax92: If you don't have the frame pointer then backtraces don't work
L1679[20:59:50] <ds84182> So -fno...
L1680[21:00:01] <gamax92> k, just making sure
L1681[21:02:39] <Izaya> okay so
L1682[21:02:49] <Izaya> I can drop the -586 kernel, but not the -696-pae kernel
L1683[21:06:29] <TheFox> i would unserialize if i was writing a table to a file correct?
L1684[21:08:43] <TheFox> ik how i can get the value of a table from for k,v in pairs(tbl) but how can i get its index in the table
L1685[21:09:15] <Mimiru> k,v... k is key, v is value no?
L1686[21:09:25] <Saphire> ^
L1687[21:09:26] <TheFox> there just var names
L1688[21:09:30] <Saphire> ...
L1689[21:09:32] <Mimiru> Yes....
L1690[21:09:33] <Saphire> tbl[k]
L1691[21:09:47] <Mimiru> But pairs.... sets the first var to key, and the 2nd to value
L1692[21:09:58] <Saphire> key is index, btw
L1693[21:10:10] <Mimiru> ^
L1694[21:10:14] <TheFox> so how would i get it to return the index of the value stored in the table k
L1695[21:10:22] <TheFox> so i want that to return k[1]
L1696[21:10:35] <Saphire> uh
L1697[21:10:38] <TheFox> so tbl[k][v]
L1698[21:10:49] <TheFox> would return the index of the value v
L1699[21:10:52] <TheFox> not the value of v
L1700[21:10:58] <Saphire> uh
L1701[21:11:08] <Saphire> BUT K IS THE INDEX Q_Q
L1702[21:11:18] <TheFox> ok, i get that
L1703[21:11:27] <TheFox> now, how could i get v to be an index as well
L1704[21:11:36] <Saphire> why, though?
L1705[21:11:47] <TheFox> because the table I'm reading for is nested
L1706[21:11:51] <Saphire> oh!
L1707[21:12:03] <Saphire> then you do another pairs() loop
L1708[21:12:19] <Saphire> (with different variables, duh)
L1709[21:12:23] <Izaya> the wonders of caching: 5 minutes to download, 15 minutes to install
L1710[21:14:01] <TheFox> so Saphire, i would have to make one for every time i wanted the next index
L1711[21:14:15] <scj643> I like Python
L1712[21:14:29] <TheFox> my code is a absolute mess
L1713[21:14:32] <scj643> Does LUA have dicts?
L1714[21:14:32] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
L1715[21:14:44] <Izaya> lua has tables
L1716[21:14:47] <scj643> EnderBot2 leave me alone
L1717[21:14:51] <Izaya> and they can do basically anything
L1718[21:15:04] <scj643> Izaya dicts that are indexed by keys
L1719[21:15:07] <TheFox> EnderBot2 won't leave anyone along, his thing is being annoying
L1720[21:15:16] <Izaya> scj643: table[key]=4
L1721[21:15:21] <Izaya> scj643: table.key=4
L1722[21:16:00] <scj643> Ok
L1723[21:16:16] <scj643> Still I'm closed minded and only know Python
L1724[21:17:19] <TheFox> as good as it is to know new programming languages it gets confusing. i wrote an entire lua script in javascript once, it made me FURIOUS when i found out what i had done because it was a fairly long program
L1725[21:21:36] <Saphire> the horror D:
L1726[21:22:07] <Saphire> there is no asie on #BTM .__.
L1727[21:35:43] <TheFox> chat died
L1728[21:35:58] <ping> Can't use cheat cvar achievement_disable in multiplayer, unless the server has sv_cheats set to 1.
L1729[21:36:17] <TheFox> what?
L1730[21:36:22] <ping> achevement_disable is used to disable cheats when you do sv_cheats 1
L1731[21:36:37] <ping> so its high
L1732[21:37:03] <gamax92> ds84182: oh, I think I know what the issue is ...
L1733[21:37:22] <TheFox> i understand that 1 mean true or high or but i dont understand what your talking about, you came out of left field with that statement
L1734[21:37:58] <ds84182> gamax92: hmme?
L1735[21:38:04] <ds84182> *hmm?
L1736[21:39:32] <gamax92> yep, fixed.
L1737[21:39:46] <gamax92> ds84182: this https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2015-January/075338.html :|
L1738[21:40:18] <gamax92> which given that this image was from 2014 and that is 2015, the stuff here did not have --enable-freedreno-kgsl
L1739[21:40:51] <ds84182> oh
L1740[21:41:57] * Saphire pokes Lizzy o..o
L1741[21:42:55] <ds84182> Anyways, I'm going to go to bed
L1742[21:43:13] <ds84182> I have to wake up at 7am for some Father's day breakfast thing
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L1744[21:55:55] <TheFox> ok saphire I'm still having a problem getting the index stuff straight can i shoot another question at you?
L1745[21:56:18] <TheFox> its not seeming to work the way i want it to work
L1746[21:56:43] <Saphire> so
L1747[21:56:47] <Saphire> what do you want to do
L1748[21:57:23] <TheFox> i am trying to read a table from a file, read a value from it for a second, change that value and move it back to the file without changing the other values in the file
L1749[21:57:37] <Saphire> uh
L1750[21:57:51] <Saphire> unserialize that table and directly access it?
L1751[21:58:00] <Saphire> tbl["some"]["value"]
L1752[21:58:31] <TheFox> hang on let me think of a better way to propose this question
L1753[22:01:43] <TheFox> ok, im string several address and keys in a file, each address is linked to a file. i need to change the key associated to an address every time the client requests a new one, but i need to write the new key to the right address which is stored in a table
L1754[22:01:59] <TheFox> storing not string sorry
L1755[22:04:26] <TheFox> hang on i think i might have an idea but its getting really complicated, probably more so then it needs to be
L1756[22:04:34] * TheFox scratches head
L1757[22:06:55] <TheFox> um, here was my problem. in my for loop [for k,v in pairs(tbl) (block of code that prints data) end] <---- that returns k and v as values. i dont understand whats going on
L1758[22:07:48] <TheFox> if my understanding is correct k should return the index of v
L1759[22:08:06] * Izaya grumbles
L1760[22:08:27] <Izaya> new quake is a hero shooter
L1761[22:08:29] <Izaya> q_q
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L1767[22:35:31] <TheFox> i know what i did wrong this time
L1768[22:35:47] <TheFox> i was doing something stupid and treated a normal table as a nested table
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L1773[22:48:21] <Tiktalik> Lizzy: that's okay, I was fishing and as such didn't care if I could send messages here or not
L1774[22:49:02] <TheFox> TheCryptek: are you online? you said you had some questions for me?
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L1779[23:45:45] <TheFox> that took forever but i finally got the first part down. HURRAY
L1780[23:46:07] <TheFox> now, the next part is going to be the pain
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L1782[23:50:05] <payonel> o/
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L1784[23:57:42] <Saphire> looooooooooooool
L1785[23:57:48] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1894
L1786[23:57:59] <Saphire> xD
L1787[23:58:09] <Saphire> payonel: ^
L1788[23:59:43] <payonel> :)
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L1790[23:59:57] <payonel> we need some pages for the software installer disks
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