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L6[00:18:39] * TheFox
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L8[00:19:50] <payonel> Izaya: did you see my
%tell?
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L10[00:21:06] <payonel> anywho i'm going
afk for the night. just wanted you to know i removed your
game-manual html site from the wiki because i was getting 404 for
the link
L11[00:21:30] <payonel> feel free to put it
back if it's fixed, wasn't sure what you had planned to do with
that
L12[00:21:32] *
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L13[00:24:02] <Izaya> payonel: I don't
think so?
L15[00:24:05] <Izaya> fuck
L16[00:24:08] <Izaya> lemme look into
it
L19[00:25:41] <Izaya> it's still using my
.science domain
L20[00:28:19] <Saphire> lol
L21[00:28:20] <Saphire> LOL
L22[00:28:29] <Saphire> so
L23[00:28:39] <Saphire> some server (yes,
still that russian one)...
L24[00:28:44] <Saphire> someone says about
lags
L25[00:29:11] <Saphire> admin says that it
might be caused by this, that or "someone launching epic OC
programs"
L26[00:29:13] <Saphire> wat
L27[00:30:50] <Antheus> e p i c o c p r o g
r a m s
L28[00:30:50] <Izaya> >.>
L29[00:30:54] <Antheus> <.<
L30[00:31:00] <Izaya> Antheus: a e s t h e
t i c
L31[00:31:22] <Antheus> hmm
L32[00:31:33] <Antheus> I wonder how
hexchat would look in comic sans
L33[00:31:55] <Antheus> oh my
L34[00:31:55] <Izaya> Antheus: a e s t h e
t i c
L36[00:32:02] <Antheus> it looks...
L37[00:32:08] <Antheus> fun and
cutesy
L38[00:32:14] <Antheus> jk
L39[00:32:15] <Izaya> kill it
L40[00:32:30] <Antheus> b u r n t h i s b i
t c h d o w n
L41[00:36:53] <TheFox> huh?
L42[00:37:09] <TheFox> who are you mad at
this time
L44[00:37:28] <TheFox> weve been over this
no killing after midnight Antheus
L45[00:38:03] <Antheus> you dropped this:
'
L46[00:39:11] <Antheus> did you ever fix
your hard drive, TheFox?
L47[00:39:33] <TheFox> from which problem,
the one that happened tonight?
L48[00:39:37] <TheFox> or last night
L49[00:39:59] <Antheus> the power one
L50[00:40:17] <TheFox> the power outage
that screwed it up
L51[00:40:28] <TheFox> yup, just in time
for it to happen again
L52[00:40:59] <TheFox> im skating on thin
ice
L53[00:41:08] <TheFox> it was barely able
to fix it a second time
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L55[00:43:26] <Izaya> TheFox: get a
UPS
L56[00:44:12] <TheFox> i want to, but i
feel that a negative power relay over top of 15 forklift batteries
i have in my shed should suffice, if i hook them up
L57[00:44:19] <TheFox> but im to lazy to do
that
L58[00:44:33] <Izaya> if you can get it
'stable' then that'd work I guess
L59[00:45:01] <TheFox> i didnt know that
they made budget ups's for my power load
L60[00:45:45] <TheFox> im roughly around
850W under middle range load
L61[00:45:57] <TheFox> after that i have to
start unplugging things
L62[00:49:49] <Izaya> it makes sense
now
L63[00:50:04] <Izaya> I figured out why
that one console peasant friend defended the xbone so much
L64[00:50:10] <Izaya> because it's losing
compared to the PS4
L65[00:50:13] <Antheus> lol
L66[00:50:28] <Izaya> like sure both are
the opposite of what one should want but whatd'ya do
L67[00:51:15] <Izaya> also you can run a
real OS on a PS4
L68[00:55:22] <TheFox> it usually pulls up
under nmaps as BSD
L69[00:55:41] <Izaya> that's because the OS
is based on NetBSD IIRC
L70[00:55:42] <TheFox> i dont know about
xbox though, probably some sort of windows
L71[00:55:51] <Izaya> yeah it's based on
the NT kernel I think
L72[00:56:02] <Izaya> unified system is
nice, if only the system didn't suck
L73[00:56:06] <TheFox> i knew about the ps4
not the xbox though
L74[00:56:36] <TheFox> PS4's are not easy
to get authorized unauthorized access to
L75[00:57:03] <TheFox> you wouldnt happen
to have any idas would you?
L76[00:57:09] <Izaya> there's a tutorial on
it
L77[00:57:14] <Izaya> lets you install a
real OS onto it
L78[00:57:22] <TheFox> thats not what i
meant
L79[00:57:43] <TheFox> authorized
unautorized access == failed penetration attempts
L80[00:58:00] <TheFox> i was trying to
exploit my network
L81[00:58:17] <TheFox> and get in from
outside, the ps4 was not as much of an option as i thought it
was
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L84[01:04:54] <TheFox> no ideas?
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L87[01:08:21] <TheFox> hello
L88[01:11:07] <Antheus> Civ V can't
download fast enough .-.
L89[01:11:40] <Antheus> 2 hours .-.
L90[01:14:03] *
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L91[01:16:50] <TheFox> hello saph, sorry to
here that Antheus maybe hugging it will speed it up
L92[01:18:59] <Forecaster> huh, TheFox is
blue now
L93[01:19:05] <Forecaster> you were green
yesterday
L94[01:19:07] <Saphire> still gray for
me
L95[01:19:20] <TheFox> yeah, i dont know
why, i think its my client
L96[01:19:27] <Forecaster> I don't
understand how my client choses name colors
L97[01:19:29] <Saphire> Forecaster: you're
using hostname for the color too, porbably
L98[01:19:35] <Saphire> *probably
L99[01:19:39] <gamax92> portably
L100[01:19:58] <Saphire> TheFox: nah,
color of someone's nick doesn't depends on them but on the client
another person uses
L101[01:19:59] <Forecaster> oh, yeah
probably
L102[01:20:28] <TheFox> i thought said
persons client could change it
L103[01:21:06] <Forecaster> oh I see,
you're not using webchat now
L104[01:21:18] <Antheus> I remember when I
used webchat
L105[01:21:21] *
Antheus shudders
L106[01:22:53] <Saphire> weechat ftw
L107[01:23:06] <TheFox> yes, i changed off
of webchat when i use my tablet, but for mac and linux i use
webchat
L108[01:23:07] *
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L109[01:23:20] <Saphire> *irssi
>.>
L110[01:23:22] <Forecaster> irssi
\o/
L111[01:23:26] *
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L112[01:23:29] <Saphire> weechat \o/
L113[01:24:17] <Antheus> So, I saw an ad
for a new ISP that moved into my area
L114[01:24:26] <TheFox> FIOS?
L115[01:24:28] <Antheus> no
L116[01:24:31] <Forecaster> gasp, how dare
they
L117[01:24:36] <Antheus> and
L118[01:24:37] *
Forecaster calls the internet mafia
L119[01:24:48] <TheFox> and what?
L120[01:24:50] <Antheus> it advertized
50Mbps download
L121[01:24:58] <TheFox> ok
L122[01:24:58] <gamax92> ISP was never
heard from again
L123[01:25:06] <Antheus> Plug in my
address
L124[01:25:12] <Antheus> the maximum they
offer is 15
L125[01:25:12] <TheFox> is that better
then what you have now?
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L127[01:25:24] <TheFox> 15mbps download,
where are you?
L128[01:25:35] <Antheus> Outside of the
D/FW metroplex
L129[01:25:45] <TheFox> so uk?
L130[01:25:55] <Antheus> Dallas / Fort
Worth
L131[01:26:00] <TheFox> oh
L132[01:26:00] <Antheus> Texas
L133[01:26:03] <Antheus> United
States
L134[01:26:17] <Antheus> Well, actually on
the very edge of the metroplex
L135[01:26:19] <TheFox> yes i know where
dallas is
L136[01:26:38] <Forecaster> I prefer to
read it as Dwarf Fortress Worth
L137[01:26:44] <Antheus> But no company
owns the cable lines out where I live
L138[01:27:00] <TheFox> they need to fix
that, cable lines kinda speed things up
L139[01:27:17] <Antheus> My parents built
this house a month before I was born, in late 1999
L140[01:27:22] <Antheus> no one owned them
then
L141[01:27:25] <Antheus> no one owns them
now
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L143[01:27:49] <TheFox> owned what?
L144[01:27:53] <Antheus> the cable
lines
L145[01:28:03] <Antheus> and until ~2010,
the only option out here was dial up
L146[01:28:12] <TheFox> ouch
L147[01:28:18] <TheFox> %ping
Antheus
L148[01:28:21] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Antheus 1.8s
L149[01:28:26] <TheFox> thats not that
bad
L150[01:28:34] <TheFox> close if not
better then me for ping though
L151[01:28:37] <TheFox> %p
L152[01:28:41] <Antheus> #p
L153[01:28:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.596078601 Seconds passed.
L154[01:28:43] <Antheus> %p
L155[01:28:46] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Antheus 0.61s
L156[01:29:03] <TheFox> yeah, your .3
seconds over me, not bad
L157[01:29:06] <TheFox> at all
L158[01:29:16] <Forecaster> %p
L159[01:29:19] <Forecaster> #p
L160[01:29:19] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Forecaster 2.86s
L161[01:29:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3.862948725 Seconds passed.
L162[01:29:43] <Antheus> during the night,
if my ISP isn't doing maintaince, I can get 1.2MB/s
L163[01:29:58] <Antheus> during the day,
if my ISP isn't fucking itself, I can get ~500KB/s
L164[01:30:04] <Forecaster> I have 30/30
up/down
L165[01:30:11] <Forecaster> but I'm not in
the US
L166[01:30:20] <Antheus> usually is
between 50KB/S on really bad days and 250KB/s
L167[01:30:27] <TheFox> i havent seen
internet speeds measured in kb/s in a long time
L168[01:30:54] <ping> TheFox, D:<
L169[01:30:54] <Antheus> . /r/all has a
lot more porn on it recently
L170[01:31:08] <TheFox> sorry again, i
forgot about you
L171[01:31:14] <TheFox> how are you
doing
L172[01:31:15] <TheFox> ?
L173[01:31:30] <Antheus> literally every
time MichiBot pings, it pings ping.
L174[01:31:51] <Forecaster> but who pings
the pingmen?
L175[01:31:56] <TheFox> yeah, ik but thats
not gonna stop me
L176[01:32:22] <TheFox> the pinger
L177[01:32:28] <TheFox> so you
L178[01:32:48] <Forecaster> I get pinged
occationally in a random channel because someone used the actual
word "forecaster" :P
L179[01:32:54] <Forecaster> it doesn't
happen often at all
L180[01:33:46] <TheFox> i think i was
pinged once last year on accident, not a problem at all
L181[01:34:03] <Forecaster> I sue
them
L182[01:34:07] <Forecaster> :D
L183[01:34:34] <TheFox> to the subject of
internet speeds i cant remember what i have , but ik its over
30
L184[01:34:45] <Forecaster> run a
test?
L185[01:34:59] <TheFox> that will say my
devices limits not my networks limits
L186[01:35:15] <Forecaster> ...
L187[01:35:18] <TheFox> wont it?
L188[01:35:21] <Forecaster> well yeah,
that's your real speed
L189[01:35:28] <Forecaster> 30/30 is my
real speed
L190[01:35:44] <TheFox> meh, screw it im
on a shield, shouldnt be that bad
L191[01:38:17] <TheFox> 50/50
L192[01:38:30] <TheFox> 15/50/50
L193[01:38:49] <Forecaster> 15?
L194[01:39:51] <TheFox> ping in ms
L195[01:39:59] <Forecaster> ah
L196[01:40:02] <TheFox> its actually
closer to 60/60
L197[01:41:19] <TheFox> Forecaster, where
are you located? US or UK, canada or else
L198[01:41:29] <Forecaster> or else
L199[01:41:30] <Forecaster> :P
L200[01:41:41] <TheFox> where?
L201[01:41:46] <Antheus> I thought you
were located at ,
L202[01:41:59] <Forecaster> yes,
Elswhyr
L203[01:42:03] <Antheus> :P
L204[01:42:27] <Forecaster> I live in
Sweden
L205[01:42:40] <TheFox> oh
L206[01:43:04] <TheFox> i swear im getting
worse, this morning i forgot about canada and mexico
L207[01:45:00] *
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L208[01:45:45] <TheFox> why does it all
slow down at night
L209[01:46:48] <TheFox> welp, i just
looked at the clock, see yall tommorow
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L211[01:48:07] <Antheus> .-.
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L214[01:53:20] <Cruor> Forecaster: oooo,
you are one of the gulebøy peeps :o
L215[01:53:33] <Forecaster> the
what?
L216[01:53:38] <Cruor> pls :I
L217[01:53:59] <Cruor> dont come here and
tell me swedish people dont say gulebøy
L218[01:54:00] <Forecaster> oh, no
:P
L219[01:54:04] <Forecaster> that's
norway
L220[01:54:10] <Cruor> yea, thats what i
expected XD
L221[01:54:22] <Cruor> i love how all the
swedish <-> norwegian jokes are so messed up
L222[01:54:57] <Cruor> we just trashtalk
the ch't out of sweden, and then you guys do the same towards
norway, is funny :p
L223[01:59:02] <Cruor> Forecaster: so how
is life in swedenland?
L224[02:02:23] <Forecaster> good?
L225[02:02:36] <Cruor> nice :o
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L233[03:05:21] <Guest77798> Wtf
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L272[05:49:48] <Forecaster> It's super
effective
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L275[05:52:38] <Lizzy> fuk
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vifino snuggles Lizzy <3 <3
L279[05:53:15] <Lizzy> <3
L280[05:53:31] <Forecaster> hit (4)
times
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L282[05:57:38] <Forecaster> :I
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L284[06:14:58] <Forecaster> what is
this
L285[06:15:07] <Forecaster> don't plants
grow in the twilight forest or what
L286[06:15:09] <Forecaster> D:<
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L292[06:41:19] <Forecaster> comeoooon
reeds
L293[06:41:22] <Forecaster> grow D:
L294[06:41:43] <Inari> watering can
L295[06:41:46] <Forecaster> it's been
almost an hour and none of the 6 have groooown
L296[06:41:55] <Forecaster> I don't have
any watering cans
L298[06:45:33] <MichiBot>
Nail through
fully charged LiPo cell super-anticlimax. | length:
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L299[06:48:22] <Forecaster> I wish I could
go back to my base and get some...
L300[06:48:24] <Forecaster> :I
L301[06:56:43] <Inari> why cant you
L302[06:57:01] <Forecaster> the portal
collapsed into the water
L303[06:57:09] <Forecaster> I'm stuck here
until I can make a new one
L304[06:57:43] <Inari> today is an
annoying day lol
L305[06:58:14] <Inari> annoying dentist
visit, come home to find internet not working(cable unlpugged),
suspect its windows cause it updated last nigth, tinker 20 minutes
till figuring out that the update somehow turned ciscos network
access manager back on and thats the issue
L306[06:58:40] <Inari> log into irc,
banned from 4 networks cause IP is listed in droneBl something,
report thing as invalid, still cant login, reboot internet for new
IP so i can connect
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L308[06:58:41] <Inari> <.<
L309[06:59:33] *
Skye cubes CollegeCube
L310[06:59:43] *
CollegeCube Skies Skye
L311[07:00:30] <Forecaster> Inari:
:/
L312[07:03:37] *
Inari skycubes ColleCubeSkye
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L315[07:07:07] <Inari> Forecaster: can you
recommend the book on Superforecasting?
L316[07:07:27] <Forecaster> sure
L317[07:07:43] <Inari> have tou read it?
:o
L318[07:07:47] <Forecaster> nope
L319[07:08:23] <Forecaster> never heard
that before now :P
L320[07:08:28] <Inari> :p
L321[07:08:38] <Inari> Superintelligence
was a good book, but its by a different author
L322[07:08:40] <Inari> so i dotn think the
2 are realted
L324[07:11:03] <Cruor> yes :O
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L327[07:13:14] <Cruor> did i just click
something that says "lewd" .-.
L328[07:13:26] <Cruor> god bless that
game
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L330[07:15:22] <Forecaster> wut
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L335[07:29:19] <Lizzy> Inari, lol
L336[07:33:41] *
Skye chews on a AA battery
L337[07:34:56] *
Lizzy sits on vifino's lap
L338[07:36:01] *
Skye gives Lizzy an AA battery
L339[07:36:11] *
Lizzy eats it
L340[07:37:14] <Cruor> wtf
L341[07:37:16] <Cruor> rip in pieces
L342[07:38:10] <Forecaster> s/rip/rest in
piece
L343[07:38:10] <MichiBot> <Cruor>
rest in piece in pieces
L344[07:38:16] <Forecaster> :D
L345[07:38:23] <Skye> Cruor, eh?
L346[07:41:13] *
vifino pets Lizzy
L347[07:41:22] *
Inari puts AA batteries into vibrator and hands it to
Lizzy
L348[07:43:29] *
Lizzy stores that away for later and purrs from vifinos
pets
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L356[08:37:58] <Saphire> lol
L357[08:38:20] <Saphire> tfw you're poking
a thing with disassembler and you search for one magic string in
there..
L358[08:38:30] <Saphire> and boom, google
search hit
L359[08:41:20] *
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L363[09:03:17] <vifino> Fucks sake. I've
been waiting for my phone to arrive for a few days, and I haven't
had any delivery updates for the past two days.
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L365[09:19:38] <Forecaster> :/
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L368[09:23:00] <TheCryptek> Hey all
L369[09:23:35] <Forecaster> hey you
L370[09:23:52] <TheCryptek> Hai
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L375[09:35:01] <Inari> vifino: still
faster than Forecaster's reed growth
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L380[10:00:53] <Antheus> If the world was
like a lollipop,
L381[10:01:05] <Antheus> you would be the
sticky residue that gets on everyone hands.
L382[10:01:45] <Inari> Antheus:
right
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L384[10:01:51] <Inari> learn to eat a
lollipop
L385[10:01:52] <Inari> o.o
L386[10:02:00] <Inari> like
L387[10:02:02] <Inari> just lick the
tip
L388[10:02:06] <Inari> dont deepthroat it
or someting
L389[10:02:07] <Inari> :f
L390[10:02:35] <Antheus> .-.
L391[10:03:10] <Inari> well
L392[10:03:17] <Inari> i dont see how else
you get sticky residue on your hands
L394[10:03:48] <MichiBot>
Hatsukoi
Limited Lollipop Scene | length:
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L396[10:07:51] <`-`> ...lewd
L397[10:08:15] <Antheus> rewd
L398[10:14:18] <Inari> Skye: #LizzyTrains
- where everyone gets to ride Lizzy
L399[10:14:33] <`-`> ...lewd
L400[10:14:35] *
Antheus hops on the Lizzy Train
L401[10:14:44] <Skye> <McJty>
Spreading things more out will improve performance
L402[10:14:45] <Skye> <McJty>
Cluttering things to close together is bad
L403[10:14:45] <Skye> <Snapples>
Good point.
L404[10:14:45] <Skye> <Inari> thats
why we have Lizzytrains
L405[10:14:45] <Skye> <Skye>
LizzyTrains! :D
L406[10:15:19] <Lizzy> lol
L407[10:15:26] <Lizzy> which channel was
that in?
L408[10:15:30] <Inari> #btm
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L416[10:26:55] <MichiBot>
Every
spacecraft should get its own little short cartoon just like this
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L418[10:29:06] <Inari> "[Misc] Ok,
this is probably the most ratchet post I'll ever make, but I made
out with a bloke who was pepper sprayed during the Eurocup last
night and my face burned from the residue and I'm left with this,
redness, a bump and tenderness. Any tips on helping reduce
irritation?" best post title
L419[10:29:54] <Forecaster> hm, second
hand pepper spray
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L421[10:35:27] <Inari> xarses_: wasnt
xarses the name of that mage in gothic
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L424[10:36:59] <xarses_> I think it was,
or close
L425[10:37:08] <Inari> ah no
L426[10:37:11] <xarses_> but thats not the
source
L427[10:37:14] <Inari> was xarda it
seems
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L430[10:37:33] <Inari> i kinda of want a
gothic-like game, but with modern quality and choice of gender
:P
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L432[10:39:01] <xarses> Its from the lore
in TES
L433[10:39:29] <xarses> Initially I became
attached to it playing daggerfall
L434[10:40:32] <xarses> but, I spell it
different
L435[10:40:53] <Forecaster> gasp, you're
not a true fan! D:<
L436[10:43:34] <Inari> i still find it
curious i've never seen a competent MC clone
L437[10:45:15] <Antheus> I know what I am
going to make
L438[10:45:25] <Antheus> for BTM
L439[10:46:00] <Antheus> A slide show
thing for billboards
L440[10:46:26] <Inari> ads in BTM!
L441[10:46:29] <Antheus> that is
controlled over a network
L442[10:46:46] <Antheus> all data is from
a central server, so you can change it/whatnot
L443[10:46:57] <Antheus> and have it as a
process
L444[10:46:59] <Antheus> on the
server
L445[10:47:21] <Antheus> and just do
something like "notifier append <file>
L446[10:47:31] <Antheus> "
L447[10:47:54] <Antheus> and then
"notifier update" to update all billboards
L448[10:48:18] <Forecaster> so all the
boards would display the same image? :P
L449[10:48:21] <Antheus> yes
L450[10:48:25] <Antheus> all synced
up
L451[10:48:42] <Forecaster> sounds
neat
L452[10:48:47] <Antheus> and the file
would just be run
L453[10:48:56] <Antheus> and it would
contain the gpu color stuff and whatnot
L454[10:49:47] <Inari> hm
L455[10:49:58] <Inari> i feel you should
somehow make sure they sync up though
L456[10:50:24] <Antheus> I know
L457[10:50:46] <Antheus> I guess I should
make an outline of the program first
L458[10:50:58] <Antheus> figuring out how
I am going to do such things
L459[10:51:02] <Inari> its a nice idea
though
L460[10:51:23] <Antheus> I'm going to try
to make all the billboards use eeproms
L461[10:51:55] <Forecaster> shame MCU's
can't interract with screens
L462[10:52:04] <Antheus> just plug the
EEPROM into a case
L463[10:52:09] <Antheus> iirc
L464[10:52:24] <Forecaster> yeah but,
MCU's :P
L465[10:52:33] <Antheus> morse code
L466[10:52:50] <Antheus> can mcu's even
beep?
L467[10:53:14] <Forecaster> if they have
access to "computer" then probably
L468[10:53:21] <Forecaster> otherwise
probably not
L469[10:56:04] <Lizzy> they can
L470[10:56:35] <Lizzy> which was really
helpful debugging stripts
L471[10:56:46] <Inari> beep codes for diff
errors
L472[10:56:49] <Inari> with a printed
manual
L473[10:56:50] <Inari> \o/
L474[10:57:25] <Lizzy> indeed, now to pack
laptop away cause it's home time
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L476[11:01:37] <Antheus> hmm
L478[11:06:47] <payonel> Inari: still wip,
but, thought that was a reasonable first draft
L479[11:06:51] <Lizzy> I wonder if you
could have a way for computers to listen for other's beeps then
have the computers communicate using the beeps
L480[11:07:02] <payonel> beep
L481[11:07:38] <Inari> well
L482[11:07:46] <Inari> the point that says
what the list is about shouldn tbe part of the list itself
L483[11:08:02] <Inari> theres this weird
double listing thouhg :D
L484[11:08:32] <asie> Lizzy: Ask Sangar to
implement Charset's AudioAPI
L485[11:08:34] <Inari> event.pull should
be a link
L486[11:08:35] <asie> then yes
L487[11:09:05] <Skye> asie, can you
implement BTM?
L488[11:09:06] <Lizzy> Wtf where has this
sunny weather come from
L489[11:09:12] <asie> Skye: WON'TFIX
L490[11:09:42] <Lizzy> It was raining
earlier now I'm getting too hot because of the sun
L491[11:10:05] *
Skye begs asie and cries
L492[11:10:08] <Inari> its hcangin between
sun and rain ever 20~60 mins here
L493[11:10:09] <Inari> *shrugs*
L494[11:10:11] <asie> Skye: WON'TFIX
L495[11:10:19] *
Skye cries
L496[11:10:25] <Skye> meanie!
L497[11:10:31] <Lizzy> This is a problem
when your work clothes are all black
L498[11:10:39] <Inari> hehe
L499[11:10:54] <Inari> what are you? grim
reaper of networking?
L500[11:11:13] *
Skye shakes asie
L501[11:11:16] <Skye> GYAH
L502[11:11:32] <Lizzy> Na, just black is
better cause it doesn't show dust as much as white
L503[11:11:50] <payonel> Inari: "the
point that says what the list is about shouldn't be part of the
list itself" can you rephrase?
L504[11:12:13] <Inari> payonel: all those
4 lines have bullet points in front
L505[11:13:12] <Lizzy> payonel: there's a
random back tick at the bottom of the page
L506[11:13:23] <payonel> Lizzy: yes, and
it is cruel and uncaring
L508[11:14:25] <payonel> i remove it
L509[11:14:27] <payonel> and it's
gone
L510[11:14:36] <payonel> then the second
time i edit the page, it creeps back
L511[11:14:39] <Inari> lol
L512[11:14:40] <payonel> i don't trust
this wiki
L513[11:14:42] <Inari> i hate this
wiki
L514[11:15:00] <Inari> rigth
L515[11:15:01] <payonel> Inari: yeah,
formatting hates me
L516[11:15:03] <Inari> i tried editing
this formatting
L517[11:15:05] <Inari> but screw
this
L518[11:15:08] <payonel> :)
L519[11:15:10] <Inari> im not dealing with
whatever this is
L520[11:15:18] <Inari> Mimiru: whenever
you can throw me up a wiki, please do
L521[11:16:42] <Lizzy> Inari: I can always
throw one up :)
L522[11:16:50] <Inari> that woudl
work
L523[11:16:59] <Inari> proabbly wont be
using it before tomorrow though
L524[11:17:07] <Lizzy> Okay
L525[11:17:16] <Lizzy> Cause currently I'm
on a train
L526[11:17:26] <payonel> i do like the
theme of the current one, btw
L527[11:17:33] <payonel> but
L528[11:17:54] <payonel> i have almost NO
value/ability to judge aesthetics in design
L529[11:18:06] <payonel> so don't care
about what i have to say about that :)
L530[11:18:14] *
payonel assumes no one did...
L531[11:18:39] <payonel> meh, that's a
lie. i hope some people care what i think :)
L532[11:18:41] <payonel> anywho, i like
it
L533[11:18:47] <payonel> not the
formatting nor the markup
L534[11:18:50] <payonel> but the
theme
L535[11:19:28] <payonel> Inari: also, in
writing the documentation on api:buffer
L536[11:19:35] <payonel> i found a rather
interersting bug in openos :)
L537[11:19:42] <payonel> yay for
documentation!
L538[11:19:58] <Inari> what bug? :o
L540[11:22:29] <Lizzy> Even though those
gears will never move because of their positioning
L541[11:22:33] <Skye> exactly
L542[11:22:36] <Forecaster> ironically,
three gears like that wont turn :P
L543[11:23:22] <Inari> thats the deep
part
L544[11:23:29] <payonel> buffered_stream =
require("buffer").new("r",
{data="abc",read=function(n)local
next=data:sub(1,n)data=data:sub(n+1)if data=="" then data
= nil end return next end})
L545[11:23:29] <Inari> teachers and
students work togehte,r but only in absence of parents
L546[11:23:39] <Inari> parents and
teachers only work together in absence of students
L547[11:23:39] <payonel>
buffered_stream:setvbuf("no",0)
L548[11:23:39] <Inari> :3
L549[11:23:46] <payonel>
buffered_stream:read() <- never returns
L550[11:23:54] <Inari>
</totallynotoverinterpeting>
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L552[11:24:33] <Inari> i never used
buffers haha
L553[11:24:41] <payonel> it's edge
case
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L555[11:24:58] <payonel> it's a potential
vunerability that should be protected from
L556[11:25:14] <payonel> a usage that the
current libs do not misuse
L557[11:25:19] <Inari> ^^
L558[11:25:21] <Inari> makes sense
L559[11:25:29] <payonel> anywho,
docs
L560[11:25:56] <Inari> doctors
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L562[11:30:09] <Forecaster> what's up
doc?
L563[11:30:17] <payonel>
nnnaaaeeehhhh
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L567[11:35:29] <payonel> Inari: better, i
do more tonight
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L573[11:48:34] <Inari> Lizzy: somehow i
always thougth you use the car to get from/to work
L574[11:48:44] <Lizzy> nope
L575[11:50:28] <Mimiru> Inari, sorry been
out
L576[11:50:35] <Mimiru> DO you have an
account on Eos..?
L577[11:50:39] <gamax92> o.o
L578[11:50:41] <Inari> dunno?
L579[11:50:47] <Mimiru> I can never
remember who I've given access to lol
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L581[11:50:59] <Inari> i doubt i
have
L582[11:51:00] <Inari> but no clue
L583[11:51:00] <Inari> :D
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L585[11:51:06] <Mimiru> Yes, you do
L586[11:51:12] <Inari> interesting
L587[11:51:13] <Mimiru> /home/inari
L588[11:51:19] <Inari> why do i have
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L590[11:51:59] <Mimiru> I PMed you why you
have it lol
L591[11:52:30] <Inari> haha
L593[11:53:12] <vifino> I bet it is
related to porn.
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L596[12:04:37] <payonel> i didn't get
Inari's pm
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L598[12:11:07] <Forecaster> me neither
D:
L599[12:11:50] <Vexatos> Cruor, strim
when
L600[12:12:04] <Mimiru> payonel,
Forecaster :P
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L603[12:15:12] <Mimiru> Oh Inari that is
1.28-Alpha.. so if you get extension happy stuff might break
:p
L604[12:15:21] <Inari> haha
L605[12:21:56] <gamax92> The wiki is made
of Inari's?
L606[12:22:18] <Vexatos> gamax92, I still
need default values D:
L607[12:22:26] <Vexatos> default
limits*
L608[12:22:28] <gamax92> I don't
know.
L609[12:22:38] <gamax92> If I knew I would
have told you.
L610[12:22:41] <Vexatos> Yea
L611[12:22:45] <gamax92> But I don't know,
okay?
L612[12:22:48] <Vexatos> k
L613[12:22:54] <Vexatos> asie, we need
some benchmarking
L614[12:23:31] <asie> Vexatos: i left you
a message on #BTM
L615[12:26:50] *
Vexatos sighs
L616[12:27:03] *
Vexatos adds the 6th strike.
L617[12:27:12] *
Vexatos goes back to Youtube
L618[12:27:24] <Inari> strike?
L619[12:27:27] <asie> Good choice.
L620[12:27:33] *
Skye cries
L621[12:28:07] *
gamax92 wraps tape around Skye's mouth
L622[12:28:09] <gamax92> stop
crying.
L623[12:28:16] *
Skye cries silently
L624[12:28:18] *
asie slaps gamax92
L625[12:28:18] *
EnderBot2 chuckles
L626[12:28:18] <Vexatos> Inari, asie quit
#6 :)
L627[12:28:21] <gamax92> better
L628[12:28:37] <asie> Vexatos: The CAS had
a 6-strike system.
L629[12:28:45] <Inari> CAS?
L631[12:29:08] <Vexatos> Inari,
Computer-Algebra-System
L633[12:32:56] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L634[12:37:05] ***
kirby|gone is now known as mrkirby153
L635[12:37:22] <Inari> i like how we dont
know crap :f
L636[12:38:48] <Vexatos> If you are a
proctologist you might know crap.
L637[12:39:01] <Antheus> rektologist
L638[12:43:38] <Forecaster> rekt :P
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L643[13:13:50] <Inari> Vexatos: :PP
L644[13:14:35] <Vexatos> Inari, the
"Proktophantasmist"
L645[13:14:41] <Vexatos> Remember
him?
L647[13:15:09] <Inari> rememb er implies i
knew about him in th efirst place
L648[13:15:10] <Inari> :3
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L652[13:26:30] <Antheus> hmm
L653[13:27:06] <Antheus> I'm trying to
figure out how to store the different ads on the server
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L655[13:28:08] <Antheus> I'm thinking of
it being a file that is like (backgroundColor = fushia etc)
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L661[13:57:03] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L663[13:59:47] <SoraFirestorm> jee
L664[13:59:48] <SoraFirestorm> jeez
L665[14:00:46] <LiveCube> ikr
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L667[14:01:39] <SoraFirestorm> > less
than reputable family
L668[14:01:58] <SoraFirestorm> not even
because he's afraid of dickbag buglars, but his own family
L669[14:02:13] <SoraFirestorm> > More
concerned about breaking and entering. These people are not welcome
in my home. They have broken in twice before.
L670[14:02:18] <SoraFirestorm> holy
shit
L671[14:02:25] <LiveCube> it is for
surveilance though
L672[14:02:37] <LiveCube> so it makes
sense to lock the data down like Fort Knox.
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L674[14:02:55] <SF-MC> *shrug*
L675[14:05:35] <Inari> whys this stupid
song so addicting :f
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L677[14:12:38] <Inari> which mod added
RedstoneEther? wireless redstone?
L678[14:12:47] <SF-MC> yeah
L679[14:22:50] <Inari> payonel: hm... is
there some good way to temporarily hook a disk into the system?..
like the disk has /bin /lib and such and it should act as if those
files are in the /bin/ on system
L680[14:28:52] <Skye> symlinks
L681[14:29:33] <Temia> You know, I can
honestly say situations like that guy's are not so unusual.
L682[14:30:41] <Skye> fun fact: if I lost
all my hard drives, I could recover
L683[14:30:48] <Skye> I store nothing of
important on my systems
L684[14:31:00] <Skye> my dad on the other
hand... ;_;
L685[14:31:13] <Temia> My mother's
husband's father (I will not introduce any mistaken beliefs about
my feelings for that man for the sake of shorthand) broke into his
ex-wife's house and cleaned the place out once they divorced,
including pawning off a china set that was going to be given to
said mother's husband. >.>
L686[14:32:21] <Skye> O_o
L687[14:32:35] <Skye> I'm lucky that my
family is mostly small and stable
L688[14:33:17] <Skye> all my grandparents
were lovely until they died of cancer. :|
L689[14:33:22] <SF-MC> :(
L690[14:33:24] <Temia> Yeah. My family
ranges from okay to wonderful, at least in the range of actual
biological relations.
L691[14:33:36] <Inari> Skye: was thinking
of that
L692[14:33:43] <Temia> My sister-in-law's
great, but her family is pretty fucked up. My mother's husband...
no.
L693[14:33:51] <Inari> Skye: what do
symlinks do when the disk is removed though?
L694[14:33:56] <SF-MC> dangle
L695[14:33:57] <Skye> break
L696[14:34:02] <Inari> :f
L697[14:34:11] <Temia> An entire lineage
of neurotic hypocrites
L698[14:36:29] <SF-MC> awwwww
L699[14:36:44] *
SF-MC is dumb
L700[14:42:14] <SF-MC> uh
L701[14:42:31] <SF-MC> awwffs
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L703[14:42:50] <SoraFirestorm>
fiiiine
L704[14:42:57] <SoraFirestorm> I'll stop
playing then >:(
L705[14:43:07] <SoraFirestorm> I'll play
something else
L706[14:43:40] <Inari> ~oc shell
L708[14:44:40] <Inari> ~oc rc
L710[14:45:14] <Inari> i keep forgetting
how autostart works now..
L711[14:48:44] <Inari> payonel: is
shell.resolve supposed to just return currentDir..path even thoguh
there isnt such a file in the current dir?
L712[14:48:58] <Inari> ~oc symlink
L714[14:48:59] <Inari> ~oc link
L716[14:54:09] <Inari> right screw this, i
dont feel ike understanding something today
L717[14:55:18] <LiveCube> I <3
ddrescue.
L718[14:56:23] <Temia> ddrescue's nice.
Didn't secure enough for me to try and remount an array that was
swiss cheesed from disk failure, though.
L719[14:56:35] <Temia> More a problem with
the failed disk than anything.
L720[14:56:53] <LiveCube> I suppose it
works best when your disk is dying but not quite dead
L721[14:57:55] <Inari> if your disk is
dead, not much will work
L722[14:57:59] <Inari> short of
professionals
L723[14:58:00] <Inari> :P
L724[14:58:38] <Temia> In this case it was
a set of striped SSDs that came with the laptop my dad sent me for
christmas '14. He was all about gottagofast. >_>;
L725[14:59:19] <Temia> And unfortunately
in that case it was pretty clear one of the chips fried
prematurely. There's no recovering from that.
L726[15:00:44] <Skye> My NAS is like a
tower of wobbly bricks
L727[15:01:21] <Inari> jenganas?
L728[15:01:34] <LiveCube> Temia,
well
L729[15:01:55] <LiveCube> my disk is
currently on it's way out
L730[15:01:56] <Skye> Inari, if one drive
dies
L731[15:02:05] <LiveCube> currently
ddrescue-ing each partition in turn
L732[15:02:10] <Skye> I have to spend
another day to recover everything
L733[15:02:22] <LiveCube> although it
would've likely been better to just point it at sda
L734[15:03:27] <Temia> Yeah. ddrescue is
nice even in my case because I didn't need to pass a stupid number
of arguments to get it to maintain some level of contiguity.
L735[15:03:44] <Inari> dying drives want
to argue?
L736[15:04:08] <LiveCube> Inari,
what?
L737[15:04:28] <Inari> she didnt have to
pass (i.e. win) arguments :p
L738[15:04:29] <Forecaster> dying drives
sends out Scratchy noises
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L740[15:05:12] <Temia> that's not what I
meant at all and you know it >_>
L741[15:06:06] <Inari> but its fun to
imagine :f
L742[15:06:58] <Temia> Well, does
screaming and crying at my laptop count seeing as how I had two
weeks of notes on it since it occured while my workstation was
dead?
L743[15:07:47] <Inari> thats less fun to
imagine, has an obvious solution though
L744[15:08:33] <Temia> What's that
>.>
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L746[15:09:55] <Inari> backups
L747[15:10:35] <Temia> I did have
backups!
L748[15:10:58] <Temia> By piggybacking on
the workstation's iterative backup system.
L749[15:11:39] <Temia> :|
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L751[15:12:54] <moomanjohnny> hey i have a
question
L752[15:13:01] <SoraFirestorm> shoot
L753[15:13:25] <moomanjohnny> do you know
where the config file is for OpenComputer? It's not in the forge
config folder
L754[15:13:44] <Temia> It should be.
L755[15:13:56] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L756[15:13:57] <Forecaster> yep
L757[15:14:01] <moomanjohnny> weird
L758[15:14:09] <SoraFirestorm> I see it
from na instance I playing in not too long ago
L759[15:14:12] <Forecaster> does the mod
actually load?
L760[15:14:12] <SoraFirestorm>
s/na/an/
L761[15:14:14] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> I see it from an instance I playing in not
too long ago
L762[15:14:21] <Inari> Temia: you should
have 3 copies, on 2 different formats and 1 off-site backup, and
having an online one is also good
L763[15:14:30] <moomanjohnny> yes the mod
is loaded
L764[15:14:30] <Temia> Hahahaha, online
backups on my connection
L765[15:14:41] <Temia> Okay, Inari, puzzle
me this
L766[15:15:20] <Temia> With my limited
budget, why on earth would I have an independent backup system for
a device that is literally just meant for playing games on?
L767[15:15:26] <moomanjohnny> im using the
1.8 version of opencomputers, would that change anything?
L768[15:15:31] <SoraFirestorm>
shouldn't
L769[15:15:37] <Forecaster> no
L770[15:15:45] <Temia> A device I could
not afford in normal circumstances to begin with?
L771[15:15:48] <Forecaster> is there an oc
folder?
L772[15:15:50] <SoraFirestorm> you should
have an OpenComputers.cfg
L773[15:15:54] <Inari> Temia: so you dont
lose your notes :D
L774[15:15:54] <SoraFirestorm> and an
opencomputers/ directory
L775[15:15:55] <moomanjohnny> Yes, but
only for the recipes
L776[15:16:03] <Forecaster> weird
L777[15:16:05] <moomanjohnny> no
OpenComputers.cfg
L778[15:16:09] <Temia> You mean the notes
that I would've made on my workstation had it been alive?
L779[15:16:18] <Inari> hence why you hav
ebackups
L780[15:16:20] <Inari> if 1-2 things
die
L781[15:16:21] <Forecaster> yeah the
folder is only for recipes
L782[15:16:22] <Inari> yuo still have
it
L783[15:16:31] <Temia> The notes were made
after the workstation died.
L784[15:16:43] <Inari> then its still 2
bakcups at least
L785[15:16:44] <Inari> ^^
L786[15:16:46] <Temia> No.
L787[15:16:48] <Temia> It's 0.
L788[15:16:55] <moomanjohnny> okay i
updated my forge and now its working
L789[15:16:56] <Inari> becasue you had no
online storage fro it or such
L790[15:17:00] <Temia> Because no
connection, no offsite, no budget for a redundant system.
L791[15:17:02] <SoraFirestorm>
moomanjohnny: cool
L792[15:17:06] <moomanjohnny> sorry for
bothering you guys lol
L793[15:17:11] <Temia> So please
L794[15:17:17] <SoraFirestorm> nah, no big
deal
L795[15:17:21] <Temia> Quit running your
fucking mouth like that, Inari.
L796[15:17:24] <SoraFirestorm> you were
polite and not an asshole
L797[15:17:25] <Temia> And don't ever
speak to me again.
L798[15:17:26] <SoraFirestorm> so it's all
good
L799[15:17:27] <Temia> I am sick of
you.
L800[15:17:38] <moomanjohnny> haha thanks,
have a nice day
L801[15:17:47] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L802[15:17:57] <Inari> ... this always
happens xD noone backs up their stuff and then the person who goes
"well.. you coudl have backed it up" when they lose it is
the asshole *shrugs*
L803[15:18:28] *
LiveCube should look into cloud backup services
L804[15:19:37] <Inari> for anyone
interested. i heard backblaze is supposedly pretty good, for $50 a
year. or you can just drop stuff into a dropbox i guess
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L806[15:21:34] <Temia> God, I hate dense
people. "You should always have a backup system even when it's
fiscally or logistically impossible, because everyone's made of
money". Fuck them, people have to take measured risks in the
real world
L807[15:21:52] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L808[15:21:59] <SoraFirestorm> I feel
you
L809[15:22:29] <LiveCube> for the
record
L810[15:22:39] <LiveCube> backblaze is
$5/mo apparently
L811[15:22:48] <Inari> yeah
L812[15:22:51] <Inari> but 50 a year if
you take a year
L813[15:22:52] <Temia> Hm?
L814[15:23:20] <Inari> i dunno, its like
sayin gyou hsould have food :f
L815[15:23:23] <Temia> Ah, online backup
service. Well, again, connection precludes it, so logistically
impossible.
L816[15:23:38] <LiveCube> 'You love
Backblaze, but alas you cannot use Backblaze Personal Backup
because you use Linux' never mind
L817[15:23:45] <Temia> haha oh wow.
L818[15:23:50] *
LiveCube might look into their cloud storage offering
though
L819[15:23:50] <SoraFirestorm> ffs
people
L820[15:23:52] <SoraFirestorm> ugh
L821[15:24:02] <LiveCube> because the next
sentence
L822[15:24:04] <Temia> That bites,
Cube.
L823[15:24:15] <LiveCube> 'Well my Linux
friend B2 is for you and anyone like you. Now you can create a
tarball of your stuff, executables and all, and stash them on B2.
'
L824[15:24:33] <Temia> Okay, better
:P
L825[15:24:45] <Inari> i like
tarballs
L826[15:24:48] <Inari> they're hot and
gooey
L827[15:24:52] <LiveCube> basically, you
just have to pay moar for basic cloud storage
L828[15:24:57] <SoraFirestorm> they're a
pain to build though
L829[15:25:05] <SoraFirestorm> especially
if you have anything big
L830[15:25:12] <LiveCube> ' You can script
the perfect backup process, set up a cron job, then send us your
files, keep versions, hide files and more.'
L832[15:25:21] <Temia> Yeah. I think I'll
stick to an rsync-based system.
L833[15:25:50] <Inari> well as aid
L834[15:25:53] <Inari> low-price
option
L835[15:25:56] <Inari> dropbox xD
L836[15:26:06] <SoraFirestorm> ugh
no
L837[15:26:16] <Inari> better than nothing
*shrugs*
L838[15:26:19] <SoraFirestorm> dropdox is
pitifully small
L839[15:26:25] <Temia> Hm?
L840[15:26:26] <LiveCube> as low-priced
backup solution
L841[15:26:28] <LiveCube> symform
L842[15:26:29] <Inari> well
L843[15:26:35] <Inari> you're not supposed
to upload your games to it :P
L844[15:26:35] <SoraFirestorm>
/dev/mapper/SoraLaptop-home 585G 228G 328G 42% /home
L845[15:26:36] <SoraFirestorm>
L846[15:26:39] <LiveCube> that shit allows
you to trade local storage space
L847[15:26:43] <LiveCube> for cloud
storage space
L848[15:27:13] <Inari> i doubt zipped up
thes tuff i care to backup is more than 200 mb
L849[15:27:15] <SoraFirestorm> I need
nearly 250GB of space for a backup of /home
L850[15:27:23] <Inari> right
L851[15:27:28] <Temia> This B2 diatribe
looks familiar. I think I've read up on it before at some point
before I gave up on online backups.
L852[15:27:28] <Inari> whats all of that?
:P
L853[15:27:43] <SoraFirestorm> some things
I could get away with not backing up
L854[15:27:46] <Temia> The same plays on
words and everything
L855[15:28:03] <SoraFirestorm> stuff in
~/Programming that is live on Git{hub,lab} comes to mind
L856[15:28:31] <LiveCube> you may or may
not get away with pretending RAID is a backup
L857[15:28:42] <Temia> RAID is never
backup.
L858[15:28:48] <SoraFirestorm> there's not
really a way to RAID on this system anyways
L859[15:29:01] <SoraFirestorm> There's the
whole 'Laptop' of 'SoraLaptop'
L860[15:29:27] <Temia> It's a sweet lie to
entice those who feel proper backup systems are too much
effort
L861[15:29:28] <SoraFirestorm> plus Temia
is very very right
L862[15:29:51] <SoraFirestorm> I had a
server that I kept /home snapshots on
L863[15:30:01] <SoraFirestorm> but the
last time I tried to bring it up, I had no video out
L864[15:30:03] <Temia> It's integrity and
preventative maintenance, but not a replacement for backups.
L865[15:30:06] <SoraFirestorm> something
on that machine is toast
L866[15:30:18] <Temia> Ouch.
L867[15:30:26] <Temia> Was it even
POSTing?
L868[15:30:33] <SoraFirestorm> I couldn't
tell
L869[15:30:37] <LiveCube> why not take out
the HDD and inspect the filesystem and system logs
L870[15:30:40] <Temia> Couldn't SSH
in?
L871[15:30:42] <SoraFirestorm> no
L872[15:30:45] <SoraFirestorm> no
pings
L873[15:30:45] <Temia> Shit.
L874[15:30:50] <Forecaster> what about a
mirror disk?
L875[15:30:50] <Temia> That sounds dead
then.
L876[15:31:01] <SoraFirestorm> I had 3
HDDs
L877[15:31:06] <SoraFirestorm> don't
remember the raid level
L878[15:31:10] <Forecaster> (as a backup
solution)
L879[15:31:20] <SoraFirestorm> because it
was a hardware RAID IIRC
L880[15:31:30] <Temia> Oof. Reassembling
is a pain.
L881[15:31:48] <SoraFirestorm> well, and
with no video at any point, I had no idea what was happening
L882[15:31:50] <Temia> Mirroring is still
not a valid backup solution for the most part.
L883[15:31:59] <Temia> EXCEPT maybe if in
conjunction with copy-on-write systems.
L884[15:32:05] <SoraFirestorm> so I have
no idea what is toast
L885[15:32:06] <Temia> But regardless it
tends to be a bad idea. >.>
L886[15:32:08] <Forecaster> why not?
L887[15:32:18] <Forecaster> it can save
you if one drive dies
L888[15:32:25] <Forecaster> you'll have
all the data and can replace it
L889[15:32:32] <Temia> Because software
errors that destroy files or systems are also propogated to the
mirror.
L890[15:32:41] <Forecaster> well
yeah
L891[15:32:53] <SoraFirestorm> wasn't
anything *suuuper* important on that machine
L892[15:33:10] <Forecaster> but it'll save
you in case of a drive failure
L893[15:33:19] <SoraFirestorm> the other
sucky part is that it's in a very bad place to do anything with
it
L894[15:33:23] <Temia> Of course. Hardware
failure is what RAID is meant for
L895[15:33:29] <SoraFirestorm> It's hard
enough to get *to* the damn thing
L896[15:33:29] <Temia> But it's never for
backup regardless.
L897[15:33:38] <Temia> Just integrity and
preventative maintenance.
L898[15:33:58] <Forecaster> of course it's
slightly more expensive to maintain twice the drives with no space
gain of course
L899[15:34:06] <Forecaster> -1 "of
course"
L900[15:34:18] <SoraFirestorm> also not
hurt because server was old anyways
L901[15:34:29] <Temia> Mm.
L902[15:34:31] <SoraFirestorm> pretty sure
3rd or 4th hand is accurate
L903[15:34:53] <Temia> Sucks to find that
an old system you wanted to dress up and pawn off had died at some
point though.
L904[15:35:09] <SoraFirestorm> I just
wanted to do my damn backups
L905[15:35:20] <SoraFirestorm> I had to
bring it down back in... Januaru?
L906[15:35:23] <Temia> Forecaster: When
your budget is in the low hundreds, I wouldn't call it
"slightly" >_>
L907[15:35:34] <SoraFirestorm> and had to
leave it until a week or two ago
L908[15:35:35] <Temia> But of course in
that case RAID isn't an option anyway.
L909[15:35:42] <Forecaster> yeah
L910[15:35:43] <SoraFirestorm>
s/Januaru/January/
L911[15:35:44] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> I had to bring it down back in...
January?
L912[15:36:02] <Temia> If I could unwind
the stripe on that laptop when I got it, I honestly would've.
L913[15:36:09] <Temia> Just to have a
500GB SSD to drop in another system.
L914[15:36:22] <Forecaster> I've never
seen the point of a RAID
L915[15:36:29] <Forecaster> I just have my
drives as separate drives
L916[15:36:34] <SoraFirestorm> RAID is
useful
L917[15:36:41] <Temia> ...in an enterprise
context.
L918[15:37:00] <SoraFirestorm> splitting
the data accross multiple HDDs means that iops can go in
parallel
L919[15:37:06] <Forecaster> oh, yeah that
makes sense
L920[15:37:10] <Forecaster> I meant for
private use
L921[15:37:16] <Temia> As it trickles down
to consumer electronics, it becomes increasingly irrelevant to user
needs.
L922[15:38:25] <SoraFirestorm> I still
think it can be useful
L923[15:39:11] <payonel> Inari:
shell.resolve does two very different things. it is what it is and
i'm sorry :)
L924[15:39:12] <Temia> It has a very
limited degree of viability in enthusiast systems, and a few use
case scenarios in professional workstation setups.
L925[15:39:21] <payonel> one of those
legacy things that i didn't feel safe gutting out
L926[15:39:35] <SoraFirestorm>
*shrug*
L927[15:39:42] <SoraFirestorm> we can all
have our own opinions
L928[15:40:03] <Temia> Yeah, I'm not
arguing, just making my observations. Take 'em as you will.
L929[15:40:25] <Temia> I'm not about to
tell you what to do with your own computer. :p
L930[15:40:43] <payonel> Inari:
shell.resolve(name, ext) finds a file named name.ext as best it
can, looking in $PATH and such
L931[15:41:00] <payonel>
shell.resolve(name) doesn't look for anything, just makes a nice
absolute path from 'name'
L932[15:41:16] <payonel> removing things
like .. and . from a path, turning relative paths into absolute
paths
L933[15:41:24] <payonel> which is what
filesystem wants (absolute paths)
L934[15:41:45] <payonel> but
shell.resolve(name) doesn't do any fs.exists checks, just makes a
nice absolute path
L935[15:42:08] <SoraFirestorm> payonel:
how does the resolver for user programs work then?
L936[15:42:15] <SoraFirestorm> nvm
L937[15:42:17] <SoraFirestorm> that was
dumb
L938[15:42:21] <SoraFirestorm> ignore
me
L939[15:43:08] <payonel> /ignore
SoraFirestorm
L940[15:43:17] <payonel> :) kidding
L941[15:43:19] <SoraFirestorm> :P
L942[15:43:31] <SoraFirestorm> I forgot in
that instant that most user programs are foo.lua
L943[15:45:37] <gamax92> warning:
writeback of base register when in register list is
UNPREDICTABLE
L944[15:45:50] <gamax92> `-`: haaalp
L945[15:45:57] <Temia> yay undefined
behaviour
L946[15:47:00] <Temia> What's more fun is
when a certain set of undefined behaviour becomes a de facto
thing... and then the hardware updates and the same circumstances
blow out your monitor :D
L947[15:47:31] <gamax92> hopefully that
doesn't fuck over the xorg build (was told I had to add a few gcc
options to get better backtraces)
L948[15:47:49] <Forecaster> "blow out
your monitor"? wat
L949[15:51:17] <Temia> The Commodore PET's
"killer poke".
L950[16:03:21] <`-`> gamax92: hmm?
L951[16:03:47] <gamax92> I dunno, I took
-mapcs-frame off of the CFLAGS and then that message went
away
L952[16:04:09] <`-`> That should only
happen with handwritten arm asm
L953[16:04:21] <gamax92> well it was
happening with gcc :D
L954[16:04:23] <`-`> GCC shouldn't ever
generate invalid code
L955[16:05:11] <SoraFirestorm> GCC has
been dumb before
L956[16:05:22] <`-`> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L958[16:05:35] <`-`> anyways, lemme just
continue watching animes
L959[16:05:36] <SoraFirestorm>
granted
L960[16:05:44] <SoraFirestorm> this is
hardcore stuff here
L961[16:05:52] <SoraFirestorm> but GCC is
not infalable
L962[16:05:56] <SoraFirestorm> that's okay
though
L963[16:06:19] <SoraFirestorm> GCC is best
gi...compiler. Totally meant compiler!
L964[16:07:31] <asie> GCC-tan
L965[16:08:30] <gamax92> payonel:
shell.resolve shouldn't check if the file exists
L966[16:08:39] <gamax92> it should just
clean up a path
L967[16:08:57] <Temia> LLVM-tan best
waifu
L968[16:09:49] <gamax92> MSVC-tan refuses
to cooperate with GCC-tan
L969[16:10:09] <SoraFirestorm> so now I
have to ask
L970[16:10:16] <SoraFirestorm> how exactly
do all of the honorifics work?
L971[16:10:21] <SoraFirestorm> what *are*
they even?
L972[16:10:22] <payonel> gamax92: but it
does
L973[16:10:29] <payonel> i'm not saying
what it should do, but what it does
L974[16:10:42] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: they
are honorifics
L975[16:10:46] <Inari> just like "Mr.
Somethingsomething"
L976[16:10:46] <Inari> :p
L977[16:11:09] <SoraFirestorm> unhelpful
0/10
L978[16:11:10] <SoraFirestorm> :P
L979[16:11:12] <gamax92> payonel: yes but,
checking if it exists would make it impossible to use for proper
creation of files
L980[16:13:07] <payonel> are you asking
that i change it?
L981[16:13:24] <gamax92> ...
L982[16:13:30] <payonel> and, you can use
it to help resolve paths for file that exist or not
L983[16:13:36] <payonel> just dont supply
the 2nd param
L984[16:13:44] <gamax92> payonel:
(describes bad things that would happen if you change it)
"should I change it to do bad things?"
L985[16:14:04] <payonel> im just trying to
understand your "but" in "yes but"
L986[16:14:29] <payonel> just trying to
give the facts, but if i read the conversation correctly, you
disagree that it should be that way
L987[16:14:35] <payonel> i'm not saying it
should be
L988[16:15:12] <payonel> anywho, if you
are trying to "resolve" a path for a file that may, or
may not, exist, don't use the 2nd param of shell.resolve
L989[16:15:22] <payonel> if
fs.exists(shell.resolve("foo.bar")) then .. en
L990[16:15:24] <payonel> end*
L991[16:15:25] <gamax92> payonel: what
shell.resolve does not, which is only clean up a path and properly
convert relative to absolute, is fine, don't change it :P
L992[16:15:29] <gamax92> does now*
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L994[16:15:58] <payonel> yes, but if you
give it a 2nd arg, it'll do another thing, look for a file in
path
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L996[16:16:04] <payonel> e.g.
shell.resolve("cp", "lua")
L997[16:16:16] <gamax92> "is fine,
don't change it :P"
L998[16:18:53] <Forecaster> like that xkcd
about the overheating cpu shutoff
L999[16:19:03] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1000[16:19:06] <Forecaster> the title of
which I can't remember
L1002[16:19:13] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic
Name: Workflow Posted on: 2/11/2013
L1003[16:19:14] <SoraFirestorm> I got
you
L1004[16:19:37] <SoraFirestorm> I
think
L1005[16:19:41] <SoraFirestorm> I did
good, right?
L1006[16:19:52] <SoraFirestorm>
(right?)
L1007[16:20:18] <Forecaster> %1
SoraFirestorm
L1008[16:20:24] <Forecaster> %+1
SoraFirestorm
L1009[16:20:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
SoraFirestorm now has 1 points
L1010[16:20:32] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L1011[16:20:33] <SoraFirestorm>
<3
L1012[16:21:07] <Forecaster> :P
L1013[16:21:20] <SoraFirestorm> need moar
coffee
L1014[16:28:57] <SoraFirestorm> mmmm
coffee <3
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L1017[16:30:45] <Forecaster> ^^
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L1019[16:31:02] <^v> Oh noes! brutus
split 3:
L1020[16:36:13] <Inari> SoraFirestorm:
well thast what honorifics are
L1021[16:36:17] <Inari> not sure what
else you want explained :f
L1022[16:36:25] <SoraFirestorm> ok
L1023[16:36:26] <SoraFirestorm> so
L1024[16:36:41] <SoraFirestorm> for GCC
and LLVM, 'tan' was used
L1025[16:36:46] <SoraFirestorm> I've
heard of 'chan' before
L1026[16:36:53] <SoraFirestorm> I've no
idea if there are any others
L1027[16:37:00] <Inari> there are
lots
L1028[16:37:15] <Inari> -senpai, -sensei,
-san, -sama, -kun, etc
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L1030[16:37:30] <Inari> i think -tan was
mostly an anime creation?
L1031[16:37:37] <KR> -dude
L1032[16:38:07] <KR> GCC-dude and
LLVM-dude
L1033[16:38:11] <KR> Just a pair of cool
dudes
L1034[16:38:18] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1035[16:38:23] <Inari> "There are
even baby talk versions of baby talk versions. Chan can be changed
to tan (たん?),"
L1037[16:39:24] <Inari> :p
L1038[16:39:31] <SoraFirestorm>
fine
L1039[16:39:44] <Forecaster> I've never
paid much attention to any honorifics
L1040[16:39:46] <Forecaster> :P
L1041[16:40:23] <gamax92> Isn't tan in
this case supposed to mean more like a Mascot? like the
OS-tan
L1042[16:40:41] <Forecaster> yes
L1043[16:40:43] <Inari> its just a
babified verison of -chan imo
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L1045[16:41:09] <Inari> which in of
itself is already a cutified version of -san apparnetly
L1046[16:42:09] <SoraFirestorm> that is
really complicated
L1047[16:42:15] <SoraFirestorm> Now I'm
sorry that I asked :P
L1048[16:42:34] <Inari> lol
L1049[16:42:50] <Temia> KR is
perpetuating the brogramming epidemic D:
L1050[16:43:01] <KR> you know it
L1051[16:43:06] <SoraFirestorm> ick
L1052[16:43:10] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
get it personally
L1053[16:43:23] <SoraFirestorm> I've yet
to actually meet a 'brogrammer'
L1054[16:43:33] <SoraFirestorm> but they
are the kind of people that I would look down upon
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L1056[16:44:47] <Inari> what do they do?
"program other bros"?
L1057[16:44:48] <Inari> sounds odd
L1058[16:45:09] <KR> No they're just bros
and also programmers
L1059[16:45:16] <KR> popped collars and
shit
L1060[16:45:21] <SoraFirestorm>
yeah
L1061[16:45:21] <KR> uses bropages
instead of manpages
L1062[16:45:34] <Inari> ~.~
L1063[16:46:22] <KR> bropages actually
isn't a super terrible thing, it essentially is a command that lets
you get very common example uses of commands
L1064[16:46:33] <LiveCube> remind
me
L1065[16:46:37] <LiveCube> what defines a
programmer?
L1066[16:46:38] <KR> and you can submit
your own examples and vote on other people's examples
L1067[16:46:51] <LiveCube>
s/pro/bro/
L1068[16:46:52] <MichiBot>
<LiveCube> what defines a brogrammer?
L1070[16:47:23] <SoraFirestorm> "A
brogrammer (portmanteau of bro and programmer) is a slang term for
a macho, male programmer."
L1071[16:48:35] <SoraFirestorm> that's
what wikipedia says anyways
L1072[16:48:40] <Inari> heh
L1073[16:49:59] <SoraFirestorm> depending
on who you talk to
L1074[16:50:02] *
LiveCube wonders if the type of person that's been implied here
would be a brogrammer or just a dick
L1075[16:50:13] <SoraFirestorm>
'brogrammer' may be derogatory
L1076[16:51:04] <LiveCube> Could it be
one of those mostly-meaningless buzzwords that's used to explain
stuff but might not be accurate ir;
L1077[16:51:29] <SoraFirestorm>
*shrug*
L1078[16:51:48] <KR> Me and my friends
use it very ironically because it's funny
L1079[16:52:02] <SoraFirestorm> I ought
to write an Emacs function to insert the shrug emotocon
L1080[16:53:20] <SoraFirestorm>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1081[16:53:28] <SoraFirestorm> heh
L1082[16:55:14] <payonel> %flip
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1083[16:55:14] <MichiBot> payonel:
(╯°□°）╯︵¯/‾(ツ)‾\¯
L1084[16:55:19] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1085[16:55:37] <SoraFirestorm> %flip
(╯°□°）╯︵¯/‾(ツ)‾\¯
L1086[16:55:39] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm:
(╯°□°）╯︵¯\_(ツ)_/¯︵╯）°□°╯)
L1087[16:56:02] <SoraFirestorm> Unicode
is great XD
L1088[16:56:37] <payonel> %flipp
╯︵¯\_(ツ)_/¯︵╯）°□°╯)
L1089[16:56:39] <payonel> %flip
╯︵¯\_(ツ)_/¯︵╯）°□°╯)
L1090[16:56:39] <MichiBot> payonel:
(╯°□°）╯︵(╯°□°）╯︵¯/‾(ツ)‾\¯︵╯
L1091[16:56:47] <payonel> %flip
╯︵(╯°□°）╯︵¯/‾(ツ)‾\¯︵╯
L1092[16:56:47] <MichiBot> payonel:
(╯°□°）╯︵╯︵¯\_(ツ)_/¯︵╯）°□°╯)︵╯
L1093[16:57:10] <SoraFirestorm> I'd like
to state for the record that I only flipped once
L1094[16:57:20] <SoraFirestorm> payonel
is the one abusing MichiBot now :P
L1095[16:57:59] *
payonel flips out
L1096[16:58:23] <SoraFirestorm> The
Unicode is doing weird things to my lines
L1097[16:58:25] <gamax92> I leave to make
one bagel.
L1098[16:58:28] <SoraFirestorm> XD
L1099[16:58:31] <gamax92> and you do
this.
L1100[16:58:36] <SoraFirestorm> payonel's
fault!
L1101[17:00:35] <LiveCube> 'A male
programmer who acts like and has the interests of a frat boy,
defying stereotypical conceptions of programmers as shy and
nerdy.'
L1102[17:00:38] <LiveCube> this makes
more sense
L1103[17:00:41] <LiveCube> thank you,
wiktionary
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L1114[17:20:31] <gamax92> D: ...
L1115[17:20:36] <gamax92> fakeroot
died
L1116[17:23:22] <LiveCube> how so
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L1118[17:32:34] <gamax92> LiveCube: it
failed to connect to the faked daemon and then my build was
stopped
L1119[17:32:58] <gamax92> it's using tcp
sockets since Android has no SYSV IPC
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L1121[17:35:55] <gamax92> ....
>_>;
L1122[17:36:09] <gamax92> archlinux
already has a fakeroot-tcp package I didn't need to compile it
myself :p
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L1125[17:40:45] <ping> im thinking of
getting an RX460
L1126[17:40:53] <ping> what does #oc
think
L1127[17:41:14] <TheFox> i think you
should change your name from ping so i dont bother you anymore when
i ping myself :P
L1128[17:41:28] <ping> TheFox, :P it
doesnt bother
L1129[17:41:35] *
Temia patpats Gamax
L1130[17:41:41] <ping> hexchat doesnt
even make the beep noise anymore for some reason
L1131[17:41:41] <TheFox> ok then.
L1132[17:42:06] <TheFox> i have a quick
question about reading a table from a file then search said table
for values
L1133[17:42:32] <TheFox> the last time i
did this was in CC A LONG LONG time ago and it doesnt transfer to
well
L1134[17:42:48] <ping> the reason why i
choose a rx460 is because i want a card for windows
L1135[17:43:12] <TheFox> what are you
talking about?
L1136[17:43:14] <gamax92> ping: Any card
you'd get would work in windows >_>
L1137[17:43:26] <ping> might swap it onto
linux if the drivers are good
L1138[17:43:34] <TheFox> oooooooo
L1139[17:43:45] <ping> but i still need
money for more ram
L1140[17:43:46] *
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L1141[17:43:57] <TheFox> i should have
noticed that one
L1142[17:44:22] <ping> gamax92, my gtx750
is pretty stable on linux
L1143[17:44:44] <TheFox> i was just going
to put a 960 into mine
L1144[17:44:54] <TheFox> along with an
older ASUS card
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L1146[17:45:20] <ping> im literally
upgrading both my ram and cpu for the price of what it would cost
for an equivalent nvidia card lmao
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L1149[17:46:03] <TheFox> heh, my chipset
is old enough that for me to upgrade my CPU it would only cost 80,
new card though, thats a couple hundred
L1150[17:46:17] <TheFox> forgot the
number
L1151[17:46:20] <ping> i have a shitty
$100 cpu
L1152[17:46:22] <TheFox> it would only
cost 80
L1153[17:46:23] <ping> quad core
L1154[17:46:39] <TheFox> hm, that doesnt
give me much hope ping, thanks
L1155[17:46:45] <ping> AM3 socket on an
okay motherboard so i have quite a bit of upgrade options
L1156[17:47:03] <TheFox> ohhhh, am3 thats
diffrent
L1157[17:47:11] <TheFox> what, are you
using a sabertooth?
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L1159[17:47:54] <ping> AM3 is the
previous generation amd socket IIRC
L1160[17:48:18] <TheFox> ik what the AM3
chip set is. why not go with a 8 core?
L1161[17:48:25] <TheFox> or is the top a
6 core, i cant remember
L1162[17:49:08] <ping> i could literally
get a AMD FX-6300 6 core with cooler cheaper than what i got this
cpu for
L1163[17:49:13] <TheFox> my top processor
is 4x core at 3GHz
L1164[17:49:29] <ping> hyperthreading im
guessing?
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L1166[17:49:47] <TheFox> nope
L1167[17:49:54] <TheFox> no
hyperthreading
L1168[17:50:12] <ping> model name : AMD
FX(tm)-4130 Quad-Core Processor
L1169[17:50:15] <ping> cpu MHz :
1400.000
L1170[17:50:19] <ping> jesus fuck thats
low
L1171[17:50:25] <TheFox> no comment
L1172[17:50:35] <TheFox> its acutally
about as fast as my mac
L1173[17:50:43] <ping> wiat
L1174[17:50:49] <ping> thats its current
MHz
L1175[17:50:57] <ping> lemme start some
benchmarks and see if it goes up
L1176[17:51:47] <ping> its at its lowest
low power state lmao
L1177[17:51:53] <TheFox> why not just say
1.4GHz
L1178[17:52:13] <ping> MHz is fine
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L1180[17:53:03] <ping> did while true do
end in 4 lua repls
L1181[17:53:06] <ping> lets see what its
at now
L1182[17:53:21] <ping> cpu MHz :
3800.000
L1183[17:53:33] <TheFox> 2x the original,
wow
L1184[17:53:48] <ping> yeah thats
normal
L1185[17:53:56] <ping> gonna OC in the
bios brb
L1186[17:54:36] *
LiveCube is tempted to try tumbleweed for his next
linux
L1187[17:54:55] <LiveCube> any users
around?
L1188[17:54:56] <TheFox> ok, i have a
quick lua questoin, i need to read the contents of a file into a
table and search that table for a specific table inside of it
L1189[17:58:47] <ping> I'm at 4Ghz
L1190[17:59:44] <ping> test
L1191[17:59:46] <ping> cpu MHz :
1400.000
L1192[17:59:48] <ping> okay im not at
4Ghz
L1193[18:00:20] <ping> cpu MHz :
3800.000
L1194[18:00:23] <ping> meh
L1195[18:00:26] <ping> ill try
again
L1196[18:00:43] <ping> later
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L1198[18:00:57] <TheFox> ping could i
borrow you a second?
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L1200[18:03:30] <Inari> TheFox: thats not
a question
L1201[18:04:49] <TheFox> whats not a
question?
L1202[18:05:00] <Inari> if your question
is how to do that :P io.open, file:read("a"),
serialization api unserialize, loop with pairs/ipairs and find
value?
L1203[18:05:24] <TheFox> is that a
question?
L1204[18:05:37] <TheFox> im confused
now
L1205[18:05:47] <SoraFirestorm> ping:
dynamic frequency scaling ftw :P
L1206[18:05:53] <ping> TheFox,
what?
L1207[18:06:09] <Inari> TheFox: it means
im not 1000% ceratin and that i dunno fi its what you want
L1208[18:06:10] <TheFox> i never cought
on to for k,v loops the always confused me
L1209[18:06:18] <Inari> how so
L1210[18:06:45] <TheFox> i dont
understand how they work no one ever tought me and i wasnt able to
teach my self on that subject
L1211[18:06:54] <TheFox> they confuse the
s*** out of me
L1212[18:07:19] <Inari> pairs is just an
interaetor function..
L1213[18:08:10] <TheFox> so
recursive?
L1214[18:08:11] <ping> TheFox, i diddnt
learn how iterators worked until like a year after
L1215[18:08:29] <TheFox> its
recursive?
L1217[18:08:32] <ping> no
L1218[18:08:52] <Inari> basically it
calls piars over and over
L1219[18:09:01] <Inari> sticking the
result values into what you give it tehre, so k, v in this
case
L1220[18:09:02] <ping> no
L1221[18:09:07] <Inari> pairs just
returning a key and value
L1222[18:09:16] <ping> pairs returns
next, x, nil
L1223[18:09:18] <gamax92> Inari:
(technically next() does hat)
L1224[18:09:21] <ping> next is getting
called
L1225[18:09:25] <Inari> gamax92: :P
L1226[18:09:34] <Inari> ping: i said
basically :D
L1227[18:09:37] <Inari> in, thats how you
can use it
L1228[18:09:54] <ping> you probably made
it more confusing by saing pairs is the one thats called lol
L1229[18:10:16] <Inari> well
L1230[18:10:22] <Inari> p[airs is getting
called, else it oculdnt return anything
L1231[18:10:44] <Inari> its explist in
that example
L1232[18:11:02] <Inari> im terrible at
expaining :D
L1233[18:11:05] <ping> i should probably
explain why the ,nil is important
L1234[18:11:06] <ping> but w/e
L1235[18:11:14] <gamax92> TheFox: imagine
a physical table with several labeled cans on top, each label is
the 'key' and the contents of the can are the 'values'
L1236[18:11:14] <gamax92> When you start
a for k,v in pairs() loop, imagine that each iteration of this
loop, you look at one can and get it's label/key and it's
contents/value
L1237[18:11:39] <ping> gamax92, i belive
he meant how pairs worked not what it does
L1238[18:11:51] <TheFox> so for k,v in
tbl do well repeat the process for the entire lenght of the
table?
L1239[18:11:54] <gamax92> well he was
being super vague
L1240[18:12:01] <ping> yeah
L1241[18:12:18] <ping> for every value in
the table, number index or not
L1242[18:12:24] <TheFox> and what would
be loaded into k and v, would k be the index number?
L1243[18:12:30] <ping> yeah
L1244[18:12:37] <ping> with arrays
L1245[18:12:38] <TheFox> and v will be
the value
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L1247[18:13:00] <ping> {1,2,3,69,hello =
420}
L1248[18:13:08] <ping> when it reaches
hello k will be "hello"
L1249[18:13:22] <Inari> i believe next
just hands you the first ket/value when called with only a
table?
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L1251[18:13:33] <TheFox> and v will be
420?
L1252[18:13:35] <ping> yeah
L1253[18:14:28] <ping> Inari, next gets
the key in the table so next(t, 4) -> "hello",
420
L1254[18:14:33] <Inari> yeah
L1255[18:14:36] <TheFox> so if i wanted
to use this method to check a username and password i would right
uname = password?
L1256[18:14:38] <ping> next(t,
"hello") -> nil
L1257[18:14:41] <Inari> but im saying
next(t) hands you the frist, no?
L1258[18:14:58] <ping> yeah
L1259[18:15:18] <Inari> TheFox:
well
L1260[18:15:26] <Inari> it would be a bit
odd to check a username nad password with it :P
L1261[18:15:28] <Inari> at lest if the
username is the key
L1262[18:15:34] <ping> TheFox, depends on
how yo are storing the username and password
L1263[18:15:44] <TheFox> would you like
me to explain the system?
L1264[18:15:51] <TheFox> so you know what
i have?
L1265[18:16:01] <ping> usually you have
something like users = {TheFox = {money = 69, password =
"hunter2"}}
L1266[18:16:19] <Inari> whys that
password in asterisks? shouldnt you store i tin plaintext or a
hash?
L1267[18:16:33] <ping> it would do
users[username_entered].password == password_entered
L1268[18:16:53] <ping> for the sake of
simplicity, no hashing
L1269[18:16:59] <Inari> sure
L1270[18:17:05] <Inari> but you still
need to store the actual thing
L1271[18:17:06] <TheFox> im working on
this code for someone else , so no hashing
L1272[18:17:09] <Inari> not just the
asterisks
L1273[18:17:09] <Inari> :f
L1274[18:17:22] <TheFox> would it help
any if i explained the system
L1275[18:17:34] <TheFox> its not the best
way to do it thats for sure :D
L1276[18:17:49] <TheFox> its probably one
of the worst ways but its the way it was requested to be done
L1277[18:21:03] <Inari> psh
L1278[18:21:04] *
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L1282[18:27:21] <SoraFirestorm> o/
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L1284[18:29:33] <TheFox> ill be right
back on linux
L1285[18:29:37] <TheFox> sorry on
mac
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L1294[19:14:42] <S3> heavy or
clean?
L1295[19:20:09] <TheFox> what?
L1296[19:21:31] <TheFox> quick question,
I might have made a stupid mistake, I'm not sure but I'm getting an
error when i do
component.data.encrypt("testing","test")
L1297[19:21:47] <TheFox> as far as I'm
aware it doesn't require an IV arg, what ever TF that is
L1298[19:23:45] <TheFox> oh, i think i
got it, now, how do i generate an AES, okay google
L1299[19:24:33] <S3> its an easy
question, do you want heavy or clean? :D
L1300[19:24:40] <S3> TheFox: ^
L1301[19:24:47] <S3> fine have all
three!
L1302[19:25:30] <TheFox> are you trying
to do the same thing that scj8 did yesterday?
L1304[19:25:47] <S3> oiops
L1305[19:25:52] <S3> I duped the last
one
L1307[19:26:06] <S3> which is super
heavy
L1308[19:26:22] <TheFox> ok
L1309[19:27:53] <TheFox> do you know how
to use the data card?
L1310[19:28:03] <S3> what about it
L1311[19:28:19] <TheFox> do you know how
to use it to make an AES-128?
L1312[19:28:38] <TheFox> how to make it
make a AES 128
L1313[19:29:28] <S3> encrypt(data:string,
key:string, iv:string):string
L1315[19:29:57] <TheFox> been there done
that, it errored,
L1316[19:30:02] <TheFox> expected a 128
AES string
L1317[19:30:03] <S3> what'd it say?
L1318[19:30:05] <TheFox> for key
L1320[19:30:11] <S3> oh yeah
L1321[19:30:13] <S3> you need a key
L1322[19:30:19] <TheFox> how do i
generate a key
L1324[19:32:29] <S3> just use some random
128 bit string?
L1325[19:32:41] <S3> that's 16
chars
L1326[19:32:54] <TheFox> im so
confused
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L1328[19:33:05] <S3>
1234567890123456
L1329[19:33:07] <S3> is a key
L1330[19:33:07] <TheFox> just make sure
its 16 chars long?
L1332[19:33:14] <S3> I'm pretty
sure
L1333[19:33:20] <S3> try it :D
L1334[19:33:23] <TheFox> ok
L1335[19:34:21] <S3> the example I see
using a real aes lib is just going int char *key =
"0123456789abcdef";
L1337[19:35:40] <TheFox> ok, now it
errored saying that it expected a arg #3 but i thought the wiki
said it was preferred not required what is an IV?
L1338[19:36:34] <S3> you shouldn't need
an IV if you have a key..
L1339[19:36:36] <S3> iirc
L1340[19:36:41] <S3> at least in the AES
standard
L1341[19:37:08] <S3> just give it a
random 128 bit value
L1342[19:37:10] <TheFox> it errored Bad
argument #3 string expected, got nil
L1343[19:37:28] <S3> IV isn't ideally all
that important for what you're doing probably
L1344[19:37:40] <S3> AES doesn't need an
IV if you're only encrypting once,
L1345[19:38:06] <TheFox> so then why did
data.encrypt("testing","1234567890123456")
error
L1346[19:38:09] <S3> but if you use it
multiple times you should use a different one for each session or
message or whatever iirc
L1347[19:38:25] <S3> that's two
args
L1348[19:38:30] *
vifino picks up the very sleepy Lizzy and carries her to
bed
L1349[19:38:35] <S3> put in some random
128 bit string for the IV
L1350[19:38:36] <TheFox> yes, ik thats to
args
L1351[19:38:51] <S3> like I said IV isn't
super important for tis
L1352[19:38:57] <TheFox> ok it
worked
L1354[19:39:12] <S3> if you want
something truly secure though.. you should be rotating IVs
L1355[19:39:23] <TheFox> doe what does th
IV do?
L1356[19:39:43] <TheFox> I'm just trying
to make a REALLY secure password lock
L1357[19:39:50] <S3> it's like a session
oriented key kinda
L1358[19:40:04] <TheFox> so it keeps the
encryption the same?
L1360[19:41:00] <S3> that explains it
pretty well
L1361[19:41:27] <S3> if you're rotating
IVs, but keeping the same key, then two messages that are exactly
the same will not look thesame
L1362[19:42:08] <S3> it's almost as if
you were to take a 256 bit key and take 128 bits of it and calling
that the key
L1363[19:42:11] <S3> then rotating the
last 128
L1364[19:42:51] <S3> the one problem is
that you need to send IVs to the remote machine every time you
change it
L1365[19:43:01] <S3> so that's a security
issue
L1366[19:43:33] <S3> granted the session
is encrypted, but for example, old school style wep hacking worked
because we would horde packets we thought contained IVs
L1367[19:44:48] <S3> I'm not sure how
its' done now, it takes < 10 mins to crack wep these days
instead of a few hours and it isn't because computers are
faster
L1368[19:44:58] <S3> iirc they came up
with another method
L1369[19:47:52] <S3> considering you can
do it in < 10 mins with dirt shit old laptops
L1370[19:54:26] <TheFox> second question.
because I'm getting tired of sending packages in a very long way,
how would one go about making a shorter way of addressing different
computers, I
L1371[20:02:08] <LiveCube> AES-128 is
overkill for any kind of password-locking.
L1372[20:02:38] <TheFox> i just picked
one
L1373[20:02:46] <TheFox> it is being
transmitted
L1374[20:02:54] <LiveCube> in OC, you
could likely get away with DES
L1375[20:03:13] <TheFox> i know nothing
of encrypting, i dont even know what DES is
L1376[20:03:46] <LiveCube> 'The Data
Encryption Standard (DES, /ˌdiːˌiːˈɛs/ or /ˈdɛz/) was once a
predominant symmetric-key algorithm for the encryption of
electronic data. It was highly influential in the advancement of
modern cryptography in the academic world. '
L1377[20:04:09] <TheFox> ok then
L1378[20:04:30] <LiveCube> it's much
weaker, standing at 48 bits
L1379[20:04:52] <TheFox> before i try it
for k,v in id do end will run though the table and loading my
values into k and v correct
L1380[20:05:09] <TheFox> well, i dont
mind sticking with what i have because i already set it up :D
L1381[20:05:43] <TheFox> is DES on the
data card?
L1382[20:07:04] <LiveCube> does the data
card have AES
L1383[20:07:13] <LiveCube> if it does use
that - it'll be faster :)
L1384[20:08:55] <TheFox> yes the Data
card has AES 128 on it
L1385[20:09:16] *
LiveCube was of the opinion you were writing your own
crypto
L1386[20:09:27] <TheFox> you kidding me i
dont know the first thing about that
L1387[20:09:52] <LiveCube> more
accurately
L1388[20:09:57] <LiveCube> implementing
your own crypto
L1389[20:14:44] <S3> LiveCube: what'd you
do to CompanionCube !
L1390[20:15:03] <ping> <_>
L1391[20:15:12] <ping> even blowfish is
good enough for OC
L1392[20:15:33] <S3> just xor the
bits
L1393[20:16:10] <LiveCube> S3, my main
linux is currently out of commission
L1394[20:17:01] <S3> so instead you're
on..
L1395[20:17:33] <LiveCube> whatever live
disk I had/have in my drive at the time. Which continues to be
ArchBang from March.
L1396[20:18:44] <S3> my desktop is out of
commission
L1397[20:18:58] <S3> somebody was trying
to be nice and cleaned out my desktop with a dust broom
L1398[20:19:00] <S3> and well
L1399[20:19:02] <S3> motherboard is
toast
L1400[20:19:02] <LiveCube> S3, can you
guess why my linux is ded.
L1401[20:19:35] <S3> recursive removal of
file
L1402[20:19:45] <S3> starting from
/
L1403[20:19:46] <LiveCube> nope.
L1404[20:20:01] <LiveCube> It all started
with a spontaneous seemingly-hard kernel hang.
L1405[20:20:32] <LiveCube> After a
impromptu reboot, GRUB complained the kernel image did not
exist.
L1406[20:20:40] <S3> can't jump to
conclusions but sounds like a bad hard dirve
L1407[20:20:46] <S3> before you even
mentioned grub
L1408[20:21:07] <LiveCube> did you cheat
and scroll up :p
L1409[20:21:20] <S3> nope
L1410[20:21:49] <S3> but from my
experience when the system crashes and doesn't boot it's often
filesystem related
L1411[20:21:59] <S3> which could be fs
corruption, or bad sectors, etc
L1412[20:22:13] <LiveCube> GRUB was able
to read my btrfs root but the subvolume containing my Arch
installation appeared completely empty
L1413[20:22:39] <S3> sounds like the
superblock for your fs was screwed
L1414[20:22:51] <S3> or the table
L1415[20:22:57] <S3> so it had no idea
where the files were
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L1417[20:23:10] <S3> or what files were
where
L1418[20:23:11] <LiveCube> a cursory
glance at the opensuse install showed that it was at least
present
L1419[20:23:22] <S3> right
L1420[20:23:24] <LiveCube> but was not
usable due it not posessing a kernel image
L1421[20:23:35] <S3> did you try a
forceful fs check?
L1422[20:23:42] <S3> and also are you
usin btrfs for your root fs?
L1423[20:23:47] <LiveCube> indeed
L1424[20:23:58] <LiveCube> I booted an
older linux..before deciding that this was likely a bad idesa
L1425[20:24:01] <S3> because btrfs as
much as everyone likes it.. is er, regardless of state still quite
experimental
L1426[20:24:17] <LiveCube> and decided to
boot from a live disk before performing an offline check on both
volumes.
L1427[20:24:32] <LiveCube> (the older
linux also contained my /home)
L1428[20:24:33] <S3> slackware supports
btrfs out of the box but it still warns you about it
L1429[20:24:57] <S3> I have heard stories
of btrfs just.. fucking thehell up to the point where it's as bad
as XFS
L1430[20:25:15] <LiveCube> running 'btrfs
check' against the partition resulted in an assertion failure
L1432[20:25:30] <S3> did you run
force?
L1433[20:25:45] <LiveCube> the volume
containing my /home was intact
L1434[20:25:55] <S3> what I would do at
this point
L1435[20:25:57] <LiveCube> passing both
an offline check and an online scrub
L1436[20:26:03] <S3> is do a smartctl
report
L1437[20:26:13] <LiveCube> S3,
actually
L1438[20:26:17] <S3> and check all of the
smart status on the drive, maybe even doing a test
L1439[20:26:18] <LiveCube> this is about
when I looked at dmesg
L1441[20:26:23] <LiveCube> and saw the
ATA errors
L1442[20:26:27] <S3> AHA!
L1443[20:26:57] <LiveCube> suffice to say
I immediately engaged the use of ddrescue on all HDD volumes that
contained useful data
L1444[20:27:13] <LiveCube> storing the
images on my external HDD
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L1446[20:28:09] <LiveCube> good
idea?
L1447[20:28:09] <S3> you need a SAN with
ZFS
L1448[20:28:46] <S3> problem is
L1449[20:28:48] <LiveCube> ddrescue did a
very good job.
L1450[20:29:00] <S3> zfs on linux even
though it is native is not enterprise ready like it is on FreeBSD /
Solaris
L1451[20:29:11] <LiveCube> On the
partition with the screwed filesystem, only 8192 bytes of data were
unable to be recovered.
L1453[20:29:30] <S3> your porn
L1454[20:30:08] <LiveCube> on my unused
windows partition only 4096 bytes were lost
L1455[20:31:03] <LiveCube> I came out of
this very well didn't I?
L1456[20:31:45] <LiveCube> S3, all that
remains is either resurrecting the screwed filesystem
L1457[20:31:53] <LiveCube> ...or using
the 'btrfs restore' command.
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L1459[20:32:51] <LiveCube> restore Try to
restore files from a damaged filesystem (unmounted)
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L1461[20:36:30] <GreaseMonkey> i don't
know if this is official but i propose always pronouncing btrfs as
"butterface"
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L1465[21:21:07] <Temia> If your porn
could fit in 8KB, it was probably some old PC98 screencap or
something `-`
L1466[21:21:16] <Temia> Delicious 16
colours.
L1467[21:21:38] *
Temia says one hour later.
L1468[21:21:53] <LiveCube> heh
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L1470[21:36:50] *
vifino is listening to Lemâitre – Closer
L1471[21:36:51] <vifino> *.*
L1472[21:41:41] <Wiiplay123> oh no this
is BAD
L1473[21:42:05] <LiveCube> ?
L1474[21:42:07] <Wiiplay123> OC crashes
when I put a CC disk in an OC robot in 1.7.10
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L1477[21:45:53] <S3> what the
L1478[21:46:23] <S3> Wiiplay123: maybe
you shouldn't do that :P
L1479[21:55:11] <S3> WHYYYYYY
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L1481[22:13:04] <Temia> I believe that
bug's been reported
L1482[22:17:10] <payonel> o/
L1483[22:18:29] <payonel> GreaseMonkey:
even the btrfs devs say "butter f s"
L1484[22:18:41] <GreaseMonkey> but
"butterface" is much more fitting
L1485[22:18:54] <payonel> i dont see
how
L1486[22:21:23] <S3> i love how they just
collect like that
L1487[22:21:29] <S3> I just closed like
30 terminals
L1488[22:21:30] <S3> at least
L1489[22:21:44] <payonel> they?
L1490[22:21:55] <S3> yeah
L1491[22:22:40] <payonel> S3: btw, yes,
btrfs had a rough early stage. but it was early and it is stable
and strong now
L1492[22:22:59] <payonel> it'll just take
even more time for it to prove that to some
L1493[22:23:23] <S3> it's still not
really mature as filesystems are really concerned..
L1494[22:23:32] <payonel> the btrfs devs
feel that since linux 4.0, it is absolutely enterprise ready
L1495[22:23:45] <S3> that's scary
L1496[22:23:53] <payonel> you have any
proof?
L1497[22:25:03] <payonel> my point is,
btrfs is young enough that people stick to stories many years
old
L1498[22:26:54] <payonel> i've been
following btrfs for many years, and have fully adopted it about 2
years ago
L1499[22:27:14] <payonel> i'm not an
enterprise, obviously. but i've read a lot, i talk to the devs, and
i test a lot of itss features myself
L1500[22:27:35] <payonel> i host mc
worlds, movies streaming, file cloud serives (~14TB worth)
L1501[22:27:43] <payonel> all with daily
snapshots on btrfs
L1502[22:28:38] <payonel> in all this
time i've not lost anything, never needed a backup due to
btrfs
L1503[22:28:49] <ds84182> #p
L1504[22:28:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.499487307 Seconds passed.
L1505[22:28:56] <Antheus> #p
L1506[22:28:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.34176451099999994 Seconds passed.
L1507[22:29:02] <payonel> #p
L1508[22:29:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1.677190803 Seconds passed.
L1509[22:29:08] <Antheus> lol
L1510[22:29:10] <payonel> :|
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L1512[22:39:24] <GreaseMonkey> a
"butterface", if you don't know: "good legs and
everything, but her face"
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L1514[22:48:53] <gamax92> ButterFS
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L1518[23:05:19] <S3> payonel: I will
still trust my FreeBSd powered ZFS cluster any day before btrfs
right now :P
L1520[23:06:12] <S3> not to mention zfs
can store ridiculous ammounts more than btrfs can, but that's a bad
argument, because btrfs has a relatively large maximum size as
well
L1521[23:06:38] <gamax92> FreeBullShit
daemon
L1522[23:06:40] <payonel> and you should
(use zfs) -- the competition makes btrfs better
L1523[23:07:25] <gamax92> payonel, does
openos have ipc
L1524[23:07:36] <payonel> inter process
communication?
L1525[23:07:38] <payonel> sure, pipes
:)
L1526[23:07:38] <gamax92> yeah
L1527[23:07:40] <payonel> ahah
L1528[23:07:44] <Antheus> what is
pipes?
L1529[23:07:57] <payonel> if you use std
io, sure
L1530[23:07:58] <gamax92> payonel: that's
not exactly the best method ... guess again
L1531[23:08:52] <payonel> pipes are great
way for ipc
L1532[23:09:02] <payonel> now, i could
have BETTER ad hoc pipe support
L1533[23:09:11] <payonel> like a way to
create arbitrary pipes for io
L1534[23:09:13] <gamax92> payonel: dump a
table in _G :v
L1535[23:09:24] <payonel> ha, sure
L1536[23:09:47] <gamax92> faster anyway,
doesn't have to go through overhead of pipes
L1537[23:10:02] <payonel> Antheus:
io.popen, or | on the command line
L1538[23:11:17] <payonel> eventually,
i'll have proc fds
L1539[23:11:39] <gamax92> wat why
L1540[23:13:55] <payonel> it's just
something i think about
L1541[23:15:09] <gamax92> payonel:
Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt
stack?)
L1542[23:15:23] <payonel> i'm just trying
to make process io more linux like over time.
L1543[23:15:33] <payonel> how did you get
that?
L1544[23:16:58] <gamax92> payonel:
Segmentation fault at address 0x10
L1545[23:17:17] <payonel> should i be
aware of what process your are crashing? :)
L1546[23:18:46] <gamax92> payonel:
unw_get_proc_info failed: no unwind info found [-10]
L1548[23:20:13] <payonel> :) that's the
best i can do
L1549[23:20:16] <payonel> i don't know
this method
L1550[23:20:38] <gamax92> ... huh
L1552[23:24:07] <gamax92> I guess I have
to do -ex 'handle SIGUSR1 noprint nostop'
L1553[23:26:57] <gamax92> still not
working correctly, but this thing boots up like molasses, so gotta
wait and see
L1554[23:27:15] <gamax92> I should just
uninstall the xposed framework, it causes it to boot slowly
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L1556[23:27:54] <TheFox> ok I'm back
finally, anything change>
L1557[23:27:59] <TheFox> %oclogs
L1559[23:28:47] <gamax92> I keep reading
it as o-clogs
L1560[23:28:54] <TheFox> ...
L1561[23:29:30] <gamax92> k, the file is
empty now.
L1562[23:29:56] <TheFox> got a quick
question for you. would you know how to randomly generale a 128 bit
(16 char) string?
L1563[23:30:43] <TheFox> doesn't even
have to be letters, preferably both though
L1565[23:31:21] <gamax92> local
a="" for i=1,16 do a=a..string.char(math.random(0, 255))
end
L1566[23:31:39] <gamax92> ahh right,
table.concat
L1567[23:32:02] <gamax92> local a={} for
i=1,16 do a[#a+1]=string.char(math.random(0, 255)) end
a=table.concat(a)
L1568[23:33:14] <TheFox> gamax92: does
yours return just letters?
L1569[23:33:33] <TheFox> mvmd stupid
question
L1570[23:33:58] <TheFox> I'm trying to
randomly generate a AES-128 key
L1571[23:34:10] <TheFox> so both the
codes should work, thanks
L1572[23:36:01] <TheFox> one more
question, if i am reading from a file and putting into a var, do i
have to declare that var as a table or will it just kinda catch
on
L1573[23:36:02] <TheFox> ?
L1574[23:36:36] <payonel> just catch on
:) well, the methods available on a variable depend on its type,
and the type is defined by the value
L1575[23:36:43] <payonel> so, it doesn't
change values based on the methods you call
L1576[23:36:54] <payonel> but reading
data from a file, you have 2 options, append to a string
L1577[23:36:59] <payonel> or append to a
list of strings
L1578[23:37:19] <payonel> the latter, a
list of strings, is going to be better (less memory needed, just
plain faster)
L1579[23:37:29] <TheFox> so local ID =
file:read() should read the data and place it into a table
L1580[23:38:11] <gamax92> lol, that's an
odd message
L1581[23:38:24] <gamax92>
"[TouchKey] don't send event because touch is
pressed."
L1582[23:38:24] <payonel> TheFox:
file:read() will read one line for a file
L1583[23:38:30] <gamax92>
"[TouchKey] touch_pressed = 1"
L1584[23:38:33] <payonel> ironically, i'm
writing the docs on that right now
L1585[23:38:52] <TheFox> ok payonel i
need to read all the contents of the file
L1586[23:39:09] <payonel> TheFox:
file:read("*a")
L1587[23:39:31] <payonel> depends too, is
this file from filesystem.open or io.open :)
L1588[23:39:37] <payonel> those are
importantly different
L1589[23:39:44] <payonel> well, unless
you call file:read(math.huge)
L1590[23:39:49] <payonel> they both
support that the same
L1591[23:39:59] <TheFox> fs.open
L1592[23:40:09] <payonel> any particular
reason to use fs over io?
L1593[23:40:27] <TheFox> nope
L1594[23:40:34] <TheFox> any reason i
should?
L1595[23:40:45] <gamax92> fs is read by
bytes only
L1596[23:40:55] <TheFox> and what does IO
do?
L1597[23:40:56] <gamax92> io is read by
bytes, lines, all, etc etc
L1598[23:41:09] <TheFox> i dont
understand?
L1599[23:41:12] <payonel> fs requires abs
paths too, io.open can use relative paths
L1600[23:41:26] <payonel> io.open returns
a buffered stream
L1601[23:41:28] <TheFox> I'm fine with
abs paths
L1602[23:41:34] <payonel> buffered stream
supports formatted reads
L1603[23:41:45] <payonel> e.g.
file:read("*l") -- read next line
L1604[23:41:57] <gamax92> TheFox: if you
use fs, then you have to keep reading and reading and reading and
concatenating data until you get nil, then you've read the entire
file
L1605[23:42:06] <payonel>
file:read("*l", "*l", "*n") -- read a
line, a line, and a number
L1606[23:42:06] <gamax92> or, if you use
io, it's just file:read("*a")
L1607[23:42:09] <gamax92> much
simpler
L1608[23:42:48] <TheFox> so if i change
file = fs.open("file",'a') to
io.open("file",'a') then file:read("*a") will
work?
L1609[23:42:58] <gamax92> yes
L1610[23:43:02] <payonel> TheFox: fs.open
gives a file handle right on the host filesystem (depending on what
filesystem is relevant)
L1611[23:43:38] <TheFox> so it would be
in my best interest to use IO instead of FS
L1612[23:44:10] <TheFox> ????
L1613[23:44:33] <gamax92> stop doing
that. Unnecessary excessive question marks are unnecessary.
L1614[23:44:45] <TheFox> ok then
L1615[23:44:48] <gamax92> and yes
L1616[23:47:58] <TheFox> ok, ill make
note of that, thanks
L1617[23:49:54] <TheFox> now i just need
to figure out how to get both computers to securely decide on a AES
key,
L1618[23:50:05] <TheFox> i might need to
actually think for this one :D
L1619[23:52:54] <Antheus> ~w pipes
L1621[23:53:16] <Antheus> payonel, is
there documentation for pipes?
L1623[23:54:50] <Antheus> hmm
L1624[23:55:18] <Antheus> what are the
uses .-.
L1625[23:55:35] <payonel> if you care
about the output of a process and you want to capture it
L1626[23:55:41] <payonel> or, if you want
to run a process, and write to its stdin
L1627[23:55:46] <payonel> from code
L1628[23:55:49] <payonel> instead of just
from shell
L1629[23:55:50] <Antheus> oh
L1630[23:56:17] <Antheus> so, it would be
like pushing singals from processes
L1631[23:56:35] <payonel> i wouldn't say
it that way
L1632[23:56:52] <payonel> #lua
io.popen
L1633[23:56:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L1634[23:57:20] <payonel>
p=io.popen("echo hi"); print(p:read()) -- prints
'hi'
L1635[23:57:34] <Antheus> lua supports
simicolins?
L1636[23:57:37] <Antheus> semi
L1637[23:57:38] <Antheus> whatever
L1638[23:57:46] <payonel> yes
L1639[23:57:49] <payonel> they're
pointless
L1640[23:57:52] <payonel> but i do them
sometimes
L1641[23:58:13] <payonel> because my day
job (for the last 12 years or so) has been writing c++
L1642[23:58:24] <Antheus> neat
L1643[23:58:30] <payonel> so i forget
:)
L1644[23:58:31] <TheFox> does it really
matter in lua if we use : or .
L1645[23:58:37] <payonel> TheFox:
definitely
L1646[23:58:57] <TheFox> ok, just wanted
to make sure ik in other languages it makes a world of
diffrence
L1647[23:59:17] <payonel> in lua, :
simply passed the calling table(object) as the first param
L1648[23:59:33] <payonel> if the method
is declared with :, then the first param is implied as self, and
not explicitly listed
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